Speaker 1: In for the True Time Marconi Award winning and Surefire
Speaker 1: National Radio Hall of Fame and ductee Gary Jeff Walker,
Speaker 1: sitting in for the great Bill Cunningham Seasons. Greetings, happy holidays,
Speaker 1: and happy birthday to me today sixty five. I didn't
Speaker 1: think I was going to make it the forty Merry
Speaker 1: Christmas on this December twenty second, twenty twenty five.
Speaker 2: How you do one.
Speaker 1: I'm having my birthday party on the air today in
Speaker 1: the middle of Bill Clayton, in the middle of Willie's show.
Speaker 1: I'm having my birthday party today because I knew no
Speaker 1: one else would throw me a birthday party, and my
Speaker 1: wife maybe, and she did over the weekend. And thanks
Speaker 1: to everybody who came out to the bar on Saturday.
Speaker 1: We have a gathering a gaggle of friends who are
Speaker 1: going to join us in the next three hours here
Speaker 1: in Sea Studio. And yes, because of breaking news events,
Speaker 1: the regular host of this show is coming in on
Speaker 1: his day off, or will at least be on the
Speaker 1: telephone to talk about developments in a very very specific
Speaker 1: and very important local criminal case, legal issues.
Speaker 2: That we'll.
Speaker 1: Ring hopefully very very well. Anyway, I'll save that for
Speaker 1: later on the developments that have happened in a very
Speaker 1: famous murder case that has been overturned by the local prosecutor.
Speaker 1: Someone's been let out of jail. But among the many
Speaker 1: friends and guests on today's show, My Birthday Show, one
Speaker 1: of my favorite folks in the entire world, author Peter
Speaker 1: Bronson joins us for a few minutes to tell you
Speaker 1: about a special Christmas deal for you on his latest book,
Speaker 1: and just to say hi, Peter, Good afternoon, Welcome to
Speaker 1: the Bill Cunningham Show.
Speaker 2: On Gary Jeff's birthday.
Speaker 3: Hey, happy birthday, Gary Jeff. Good to be with you
Speaker 3: on your birthday.
Speaker 2: It's great to have you.
Speaker 3: And as someone who is so close to Christmas with
Speaker 3: a birthday as I am on January two.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I really enjoy.
Speaker 3: This joke I saw, which is well, did you hear
Speaker 3: what the wise men said to Jesus? No, they said,
Speaker 3: just to be clear, these gifts are also for your birthday.
Speaker 1: We all had to deal with that growing up, didn't we. Well,
Speaker 1: you know my parent I got to be honest with you, Peter,
Speaker 1: My parents were really good about that. They would get
Speaker 1: me a specific birthday gift. They got me a specific
Speaker 1: Christmas gift. By the time we got to Christmas morning,
Speaker 1: I felt guilty forgetting all these gifts, but you know,
Speaker 1: it was always it was the one big present was well,
Speaker 1: that's both Birthday and Christmas, because that's a big yea.
Speaker 1: So you've you've got to give for anybody listening who's
Speaker 1: interested in your latest book, which is the Magical History
Speaker 1: to Her five short stories about incredible Cincinnati history that
Speaker 1: Peter Bronson writes about. So well, so tell us what
Speaker 1: folks can expect if they would like to get your
Speaker 1: latest Peter.
Speaker 3: Okay, Well, the quickest way you can get it go
Speaker 3: to any of the local bookstores, because we're getting pretty
Speaker 3: close to the mailing deadline for Christmas, and we can't
Speaker 3: be absolutely sure that something that ships today would get
Speaker 3: there in time, but it's probably likely, and in fact,
Speaker 3: this week, starting today, I'm going to run a promotion
Speaker 3: on my website, which is Chili dog press dot com
Speaker 3: for free priority mail shipping. Now that is two day shipping,
Speaker 3: so that could get there on time if people order
Speaker 3: today and tomorrow. Also local bookstores and Amazon, as everyone knows,
Speaker 3: they are hard to beat when it comes to practically
Speaker 3: overnight delivery. If that's what you want, So lots of
Speaker 3: options out there, but the best one. If you want
Speaker 3: to sign copy in the next two days, go to
Speaker 3: my website chilidogpress.
Speaker 1: Dot com and it's free shipping courtesy of Peter Clause.
Speaker 3: That's right, Priority mail, all right. It's the up priced shipping,
Speaker 3: but maybe more likely to get there at time.
Speaker 1: All right, fantastic, Peter. I wish you and your family
Speaker 1: a very merry Christmas and thank you, and I definitely
Speaker 1: will be contacting you on your birthday. I don't know
Speaker 1: if you'll have a show on seven utter WLW that day,
Speaker 1: but with you never you never know. This just dropped
Speaker 1: into my lap. I got to tell you there was
Speaker 1: no place I would rather be to celebrate my birthday
Speaker 1: than working today in the seat of a man who
Speaker 1: I Revere, who is the longest consecutive host on this
Speaker 1: radio station, this great legendary radio station. Bill Cunningham's birthday
Speaker 1: was just eleven days ago. Willie was seventy eight. I
Speaker 1: believe not telling any tales that people don't know, but
Speaker 1: I am the second longest serving host consecutively and one
Speaker 1: of my favorite things to do here on seven hundred
Speaker 1: WLW is wake you up on Saturday mornings with the
Speaker 1: Saturday Morning Edition that if we're still we're still blessed
Speaker 1: enough to be on the air. Come mid February, late February,
Speaker 1: it'll be twenty nine years and it has been absolutely
Speaker 1: my utter pleasure and a humble thank you to everybody
Speaker 1: who's let me stay on the air, including you. Take
Speaker 1: a break and the party begins in a moment, Happy
Speaker 1: sixty five to me. Sixty five years ago today, Leo
Speaker 1: and Miriam Bragg had a son, their first one. They
Speaker 1: named him Jeff, So I've been Jeff a lot longer
Speaker 1: than I've been Gary. Jeff on the phone is my mother,
Speaker 1: Miriam Bragg. Good morning Mom, Good morning son, Hi Dad,
Speaker 1: Hi sir. I wanted to I just wanted to share
Speaker 1: with the audience today on my birthday, how much you,
Speaker 1: obviously both have meant to me in my life, and
Speaker 1: how you didn't think it was necessarily a good idea
Speaker 1: for me to devote my life to radio, and you
Speaker 1: were probably right, and it's a little too late to
Speaker 1: do the right thing now, but I in spite of that,
Speaker 1: I wanted to thank you publicly for all of your
Speaker 1: support and all of your love through all of these years.
Speaker 1: I really did win the lottery. I won the birth
Speaker 1: lottery by having you as parents. And I am just
Speaker 1: so grateful, and I'm so happy that christ and I
Speaker 1: will get to see you on Christmas Eve and Christmas
Speaker 1: Day here in just a couple of days. And I
Speaker 1: love you very much.
Speaker 4: We love you too, Scents and where we're glad that
Speaker 4: we had you, even though there's been times when we wondered, Yeah,
Speaker 4: but you have turned out to be a good son
Speaker 4: to you finally have grown up. And I'm sorry to
Speaker 4: say that I cannot believe it's been sixty five years.
Speaker 2: No, I can't even for sure.
Speaker 3: Now I qualified streame diners.
Speaker 1: Wow, so I'll get I'll get your thought. So if
Speaker 1: we go anywhere, when we visit you anytime, we'll all
Speaker 1: get the discount. Truly, that's right, right, Well, we can't wait.
Speaker 1: We can't wait to see on Wednesday. Pray for safe
Speaker 1: travels and we'll see you as say Mary Christmas in person.
Speaker 4: Okay, So all right, thank you, we love you.
Speaker 2: I love you, love you, guys.
Speaker 1: Thanks. I am so I'm so lucky to have my
Speaker 1: parents still. My dad's eighty nine, my mom's eighty eight,
Speaker 1: and health challenges come along with that kind of age.
Speaker 2: But you know what, they're still kicking and doing great.
Speaker 1: In the studio today, we're gonna have random friends of
Speaker 1: mine first and foremost. You hear him on Saturday Mornings
Speaker 1: with the Gang from Ripley at Brookies. My friend, the
Speaker 1: oil baron of Brown County, Doug Bonnson is here.
Speaker 2: Hello, mister Bonnce.
Speaker 1: Good afternoon, then, happy birthday. Yeah rats, congrats on your
Speaker 1: buck eyes being in the National Championship A playoffs, and
Speaker 1: you're gonna come help us root them on next Wednesday night.
Speaker 2: On New Year's Eve. Yes, we will be there. Can't wait.
Speaker 1: Major party, Yes, absolutely, And he doesn't even have police
Speaker 1: monitoring the the roads between the basement and the and
Speaker 1: the bathroom, so I should be saved very good. Also
Speaker 1: joining us in the studio is a guy you yes,
Speaker 1: don't shake your head. No, You're gonna be on the
Speaker 1: air whether you like it or not. Okay, all right.
Speaker 1: Dave from Harrison who tells the bad dad jokes on
Speaker 1: Saturday Morning, has joined us. He brought cake and he
Speaker 1: he heard me say.
Speaker 2: Here, Jeff, there are no bad dad jokes.
Speaker 1: You're right, just ones you shouldn't tell so anyway, he
Speaker 1: heard me say that we had no drinks for the
Speaker 1: program today, so he brought a cooler full of drinks.
Speaker 1: Brother Ray Scott from Loveland, how.
Speaker 2: Are you man?
Speaker 5: Happy birthday by Hey, Hello to mom and dad too.
Speaker 5: Your mom's bustials say, sounds so good, Gary, Jeff.
Speaker 2: I know they do.
Speaker 1: I mean that's where that voice comes from. My gueses. Yes,
Speaker 1: we're inherited. We also have the triplets, well they're not triplets,
Speaker 1: they're twins and three brothers, the Pasqually brothers. And it
Speaker 1: has nothing to do with the pizza joint, which everybody
Speaker 1: always asks when I say, oh, the Pisqually brothers are
Speaker 1: here at the bar. Oh really good. Can they get
Speaker 1: us a free pizza from next door? No, because Pisqually
Speaker 1: in the in the terms of the pizza joint in
Speaker 1: Newport and other places, has to do with a first name.
Speaker 1: That Pisqually was a first name. But Pisqually is your
Speaker 1: last name. The youngest brother, Paul, Hello sir, Happy birthday, Gary, Jeff,
Speaker 1: and Merry Christmas to you. Thanks for having us down here.
Speaker 1: This is fantasmic. Well, thanks for being had. Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: great to see you in the studio today. What what
Speaker 1: do you think of the digs? This is the first
Speaker 1: time you've been here? Right, oh, second time now, no kidding,
Speaker 1: and they let you back in the door anyway.
Speaker 2: Amazing.
Speaker 1: Paul always asked me some of the most like uncomfortable questions.
Speaker 1: Do you have an uncomfortable question for me today? I
Speaker 1: was not prepared to have an a It just came
Speaker 1: naturally for you, it does, but ask me uncomfortable questions. Question, Yeah,
Speaker 1: you're your older brothers are here. They have their birthday
Speaker 1: in eight days, and it's oddly enough on the same
Speaker 1: day since they're twins. Uh Rick and Ron pisqually have
Speaker 1: joined us in good evening, Happy birthday morning, Merry Christmas.
Speaker 1: And when you get down to Hendersonville, Tennessee, don't forget
Speaker 1: to tell your parents they can take you to Kids
Speaker 1: Eat Free on Tuesday. Well, now, I don't know now
Speaker 1: that I'm a qualified senior, don't know if they're gonna
Speaker 1: can I just walk in on my knees and maybe
Speaker 1: they'll think I'm under twelve or something. Gary Jeff, Yeah,
Speaker 1: we have a birthday card for you.
Speaker 2: Oh, thank you very much, gentlemen.
Speaker 1: We're also expecting the course of the next three hours
Speaker 1: to have mister birthday Tuba. Last year he was here
Speaker 1: in a similar setting on Willie's Show oddly enough, and
Speaker 1: played when I'm sixty four on his birthday tube for me,
Speaker 1: and I'm looking forward to that. And also joining us
Speaker 1: today is the great Jim Lebarbara, the music Professor, and
Speaker 1: he should be here almost any time now. In fact,
Speaker 1: after the news break at twelve thirty, we'll be joined
Speaker 1: by the prof who joins in every Saturday morning on
Speaker 1: Rock and Roll Archaeology, which is one of our favorite
Speaker 1: bits we do on the Saturday show. And it is
Speaker 1: his eighty fourth birthday today. He is exactly nineteen years
Speaker 1: older than me. I didn't find this out until we'd
Speaker 1: known each other for about five years and I just mentioned, oh,
Speaker 1: you know, my birthday's coming up next week. Jim, oh really?
Speaker 1: When he said the twenty second, he said, that's my birthday.
Speaker 1: So we have been we have been kind of birthday
Speaker 1: soulmates for a long time and both have had kind
Speaker 1: of parallel careers, spending in our lives on the air,
Speaker 1: on the radio, and some of the same interests in
Speaker 1: music and people. He's a great people person well Thank you,
Speaker 1: Pus squallys. You're welcome. It was great to have met
Speaker 1: you six years ago. Remember that day, kind of what happened.
Speaker 6: I walked in, Well, I listened to you on the
Speaker 6: radio at work and always thought you were one of
Speaker 6: my favorite guys at WLW hair So stopped in huddles
Speaker 6: because you're always begging people to stop in, and.
Speaker 1: Why not begging?
Speaker 2: I just didn't vite people.
Speaker 1: Waiting in line outside.
Speaker 6: Yeah, and got in there and I said, are you
Speaker 6: carry Jeff Walker? And you looked at me and said,
Speaker 6: are you the FBI?
Speaker 1: Any anybody who comes and asks me that question, I
Speaker 1: just make sure they're not a member of a three
Speaker 1: letter agency of any kind, because you know, that's that's
Speaker 1: the first thing you want to know when you when
Speaker 1: you meet somebody you don't know and they ask, are
Speaker 1: you Gary Jeff Walker? So brother Ron and I have
Speaker 1: been going over there probably every week. So now it's
Speaker 1: like a tradition, tradition. Thursday is Pisqually's day.
Speaker 6: Paul join us when he retired a couple of years ago,
Speaker 6: and uh yeah, so we see each other, see the
Speaker 6: brother The brothers get together every one day a week,
Speaker 6: have a couple.
Speaker 1: Well, here's the question people always ask, especially as you
Speaker 1: get close to sixty five, and if you're listening and
Speaker 1: you know this, well, when you're going to retire, it's like,
Speaker 1: but do you mean retire? And everybody that's got a
Speaker 1: if you work in a job that's got a mandatory
Speaker 1: retirement age of sixty five, tell them. And it's a ludicrous,
Speaker 1: it's ridiculous. If you've got life in you, if you've
Speaker 1: got ambition in you now, if you if you want
Speaker 1: to just give up and go home and sit on
Speaker 1: the couch and dive, that's your business. But my retirement
Speaker 1: plan is death. I decided a long time ago. I'm
Speaker 1: not I'm not going to take Social Security till the
Speaker 1: last minute. I'm I'll be working at a bar or
Speaker 1: slaving over a hot microphone until they tell me I
Speaker 1: can't anymore. So, which I mean could be today twelve
Speaker 1: thirty Gary Jeffin for Willie on the Birthday show, More
Speaker 1: to Come and your phone calls always welcome. Five one, three, seven, four, nine,
Speaker 1: seven thousand. Now, back in the day before I did talk,
Speaker 1: I was a DJ, got a real life DJ in
Speaker 1: the studio, A guy who started as a producer. Actually,
Speaker 1: I remember this guy when he was helping me with
Speaker 1: the original Night Caps. Karen Bland is in the studio.
Speaker 1: Good evening, sir, Good, Happy birthday, Gary, Jeff? What am
Speaker 1: I saying? Good evening, It's twelve thirty nine. It's a
Speaker 1: bill cumming here. Well, used to being on nine midnight,
Speaker 1: that's true, That's probably why it is. So what have
Speaker 1: you been doing with yourself? Nothing? Working since so since
Speaker 1: so many many years ago when you were when you
Speaker 1: were slaving me, and then you were like, look, why
Speaker 1: is this guy such a hard guy to work with?
Speaker 1: Those good times I was bands and studios.
Speaker 2: I was very difficult to work with, wasn't i?
Speaker 7: Yeah, but that made me the man of Hawaiium today.
Speaker 2: That's right.
Speaker 1: Adversity only makes you strong exactly. So what are you
Speaker 1: doing these days? I know that you're doing some stuff
Speaker 1: for you still doing some stuff for the beat, for
Speaker 1: the beat.
Speaker 7: I'm still with Mogger. I'm on the beat every Friday
Speaker 7: and Saturday. All right, two am, all right?
Speaker 8: Cool?
Speaker 7: I'm still producing, still producing mo show weekdays three to six.
Speaker 2: Yeah. He's a hard ass too, isn't he?
Speaker 7: How did I stuck with two of the hardest people.
Speaker 7: It's amazing, must be my love.
Speaker 1: Listen, Merry Christmas, brother thanks for stopping by.
Speaker 2: Thank you very much.
Speaker 1: And speaking of happy birthdays, look who just came in
Speaker 1: the other birthday, boy day, December twenty second, the one
Speaker 1: and only music professor Jim Lebarbara has entered the studio.
Speaker 1: Same aids. We're both the same age, and.
Speaker 2: We are in the presence of true radio greatness. A
Speaker 2: guy you know.
Speaker 1: I mentioned at the top of this show that not
Speaker 1: only has Bill Cunningham won two Marconi Awards, not one,
Speaker 1: but two, and he is a surefire candidate for National
Speaker 1: Radio Hall of Fame.
Speaker 2: Is he in already?
Speaker 1: I don't know. He ought to be in. If he's not,
Speaker 1: you ought to be in the National Radio Hall of Fame,
Speaker 1: no question. Thank you. You got a bunch of fans here, Brothers.
Speaker 1: Doug Bonnson from Ripley, Ray Scott Dave from Harrison is here.
Speaker 1: And as he mentioned earlier, there are no bad dad jokes.
Speaker 1: We'd like to collectively say hello to Tony Rosiello and
Speaker 1: Joe Cina at the Fratelli Unedi. Very nice and the
Speaker 1: breakfast they were on Friday, and it was we were
Speaker 1: welcomed as guests of Tony's and very kind, very generous.
Speaker 1: What a wonderful gathering. Can you explain that? Just in
Speaker 1: a nutshell?
Speaker 9: For thirty five years and way way back, I was
Speaker 9: a guest speaker at one and then I wrote my book,
Speaker 9: and then I was a guest speaker at another, and
Speaker 9: then they went to some Italian singers and I went
Speaker 9: and did another talk on that, and then twenty fifteen
Speaker 9: I was the man of the Year, the Italian Man
Speaker 9: of the Year.
Speaker 1: It was a big one. It really is.
Speaker 9: And I've got a little statue of the little thing
Speaker 9: in the frame and everything at home.
Speaker 1: That's for you.
Speaker 9: I got to tell you were talking about your mom,
Speaker 9: your mom and dah and I brought back memories my
Speaker 9: when I got into radio, I'm sure because I was
Speaker 9: a pre med student in college and flunk by and camp.
Speaker 9: The first semessage, you're a real under achieve yeah. But
Speaker 9: then I had a grad scholarship for religion and philosophy
Speaker 9: at Boston University, so I was going to be a minister,
Speaker 9: and I said, wow, you're achieve Yeah. So I'm on
Speaker 9: my way to Boston and I take a radio job
Speaker 9: to get this out of my system and it never leaves.
Speaker 9: And so I know my parents were like, what is
Speaker 9: he doing? And so I go to Cleveland. Now I'm
Speaker 9: in Cleveland, and in nineteen sixty six, I'm making over
Speaker 9: thirty seven thousand dollars a year. I mean, I'm on
Speaker 9: top of the world. I want eighty dollars a week
Speaker 9: to that. And I go home. I have the little Corvette,
Speaker 9: the green Corvette, have the beard, you know, long hair.
Speaker 9: The kid across the street comes over and I go,
Speaker 9: wear flowers in your hair and I flashed the peace
Speaker 9: sign and I go and my mother was furious with me.
Speaker 9: What is wrong with you? What is wrong with you?
Speaker 9: And I never thought that they were happy with what
Speaker 9: I was doing, even though I was making. My dad
Speaker 9: wasn't making a hundred dollars a week. Is a truck
Speaker 9: driver for Forest. And my dad got called. My dad
Speaker 9: was in the emergency. I was in Cleveland now with
Speaker 9: NVC with them became my se and I got called.
Speaker 9: My dad was in intensive care and it was touch
Speaker 9: and go and I went home and uh, my dad
Speaker 9: in the hospital, went to see him and he pushes
Speaker 9: the button, the emergency button. I'm thinking, oh my god,
Speaker 9: and the nurse comes in and uh, he goes, this
Speaker 9: is my son, Jimmy the disc jockey, the disc jockey
Speaker 9: in Cleveland, and I started, I broke up in tears,
Speaker 9: you know, because you know he was part of me,
Speaker 9: really part of me. Finally is a big yeah, a big,
Speaker 9: big deal. Like I said, the thing we did in
Speaker 9: Cleve uh in Annawm, Michigan to go up there with
Speaker 9: with Art the big part that was so good.
Speaker 1: You know, we need to try and get in touch
Speaker 1: of Art Radio's best friend. Right now, have old radio
Speaker 1: Rick on the line, who's on the air with with
Speaker 1: us every Saturday morning, uh, talking about reception reports. He
Speaker 1: works on these wonderful antique radios. He worked on mine
Speaker 1: and Christas and it still sounds like my wife says
Speaker 1: liquid Gold in nineteen forty one Filco. It's one of
Speaker 1: you know, if you care about material things, and I
Speaker 1: kind of do that thing. It's such a beautiful piece
Speaker 1: and it's such a great radio. Ricky, how are you, hey.
Speaker 8: I'm great, Gary, Jeff, happy birthday to you.
Speaker 10: Thank you, thank you, sir, and hello to everyone there
Speaker 10: and jim Learbarbara, please tell the story about the time
Speaker 10: that the you received a lot of jukeboxes from a sale.
Speaker 1: Yeah, tell tell the jukebox story when you received a
Speaker 1: lot of jukeboxes from a sale. Oh I got.
Speaker 9: I went to buy one jukebox from a guy and
Speaker 9: then he had a garage full of jukeboxes and he said,
Speaker 9: you really would like to have all these jukeboxes when
Speaker 9: you and I said yeah, absolutely, I mean it was
Speaker 9: like a dream.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 9: And he said, well, it's here as for one thousand dollars.
Speaker 9: I mean, just a whole garage full of jukeboxes. So
Speaker 9: I said, okay, but I have no way of getting
Speaker 9: the home. And he said, we got two boys and
Speaker 9: we can get the trucks and we'll drive them to
Speaker 9: your house. So I bought the one jukebox the ten
Speaker 9: fifteen Willers shirt. At that time, one hundred and twenty
Speaker 9: five dollars is all I paid for this, and its
Speaker 9: been a great deal. But I knew the guy. He
Speaker 9: had listened to me on the radio on WLW. This
Speaker 9: was in He was in Indiana with the shop and
Speaker 9: he was cleaning out of garage that he had, and
Speaker 9: all of a sudden, I get a truckload and I'm
Speaker 9: at home and I'm doing the afternoon show on W.
Speaker 9: I'm going here a WLW And the first truck comes around,
Speaker 9: and I didn't tell my wife. I didn't tell Sally,
Speaker 9: and I had the garage cleared out, and my wife
Speaker 9: starts crying. You said, you can't bring that in here.
Speaker 9: You can't bring those in here. You know, I don't
Speaker 9: know what's in there. There could be mice in there,
Speaker 9: you know. And she's crying and I'm calming her down,
Speaker 9: and we're unloading. They're unloading the truck, and then the
Speaker 9: second truck came around. It was like unbelievable, one juke
Speaker 9: box at top of the other. So, yeah, that was
Speaker 9: that was a wonderful. Your wife wasn't pleased with it.
Speaker 1: No, no, no, she was furious.
Speaker 2: Did she ever get over it?
Speaker 9: Yeah she did, she did. I had to get rid
Speaker 9: of a lot of that, a lot of that stuff.
Speaker 8: She wasn't pleased with the first truck. But then the
Speaker 8: second truck.
Speaker 2: Balls.
Speaker 1: We're going a well like a Donald telephone. Oh man,
Speaker 1: Uh well, Ricky, I hope you have a merry Christmas.
Speaker 1: I know you and Marie do uh kind of non
Speaker 1: conventional things on Christmas? What non conventional thing? Now? I
Speaker 1: know you've already had Christmas with your daughter, But you
Speaker 1: have any plans in the next couple of days.
Speaker 8: Well, work aside. On the twenty fifth, we still have
Speaker 8: to get We have to go out for Chinese. We
Speaker 8: just have to have to go.
Speaker 1: Out for Chinese. Ba rah rah rah rah rah rah ra.
Speaker 1: Do you have them ceremoniously cut the head off the
Speaker 1: duck when they bring it out?
Speaker 8: We try to avoid that, all right.
Speaker 1: Well, listen, I have a wonderful, wonderful, wonderful holiday. Merry
Speaker 1: Christmas to you, and thank you for all of the
Speaker 1: gifts you bring every Saturday morning to my show.
Speaker 8: And Merry Christmas to everybody there right there.
Speaker 1: All right, me too, Thanks brother old radio Rick Washburn.
Speaker 1: You've met him. He's a fantastic guy. And you know
Speaker 1: you've got to as a radio person your whole life,
Speaker 1: your heart kind of goes out to somebody who loves
Speaker 1: radio as much as we do, and maybe maybe more.
Speaker 1: He's got about four hundred five hundred radios in his house.
Speaker 1: You need to see that, that house in Indianapolis. Jim,
Speaker 1: if you ever get a chance, well I'll go up
Speaker 1: with you. We'll take a trip. Yeah, we think we
Speaker 1: should He's still planning to open up his what he
Speaker 1: calls his Purple Pineapple Museum. The basement is so full
Speaker 1: of antique radios. There's a little path to walk in
Speaker 1: and you can barely squeeze through the corridors, and it's
Speaker 1: just radios everywhere and tubes and parts that he's got arranged.
Speaker 1: It's pretty incredible in and of its elf. So what
Speaker 1: do you do on your birthday? Jimmy around you? That's
Speaker 1: about it. Yeah, that's all right. And a bunch of
Speaker 1: you know, text and emails. Johnny Bench called this morning.
Speaker 1: We talked a little while. He loves that Christmas song,
Speaker 1: Snoopy's Christmas. I said, you still like that? Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: oh yeah, it was his favorite. You know when I
Speaker 1: put a Royal Guards the Royal Guards, me said, every
Speaker 1: Christmas he come down to the station or call me.
Speaker 1: You got to play that song. Play that song for me.
Speaker 1: So that's that's.
Speaker 2: How long have you known Johnny?
Speaker 1: Since when I first got the town nineteen sixty nine?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 9: And uh, didn't you live in the same apartment? You
Speaker 9: lived upstairs? I lived downstairs in former apartments. I moved
Speaker 9: into a community lifting right Clifton on Dick Smith Avenue
Speaker 9: and moved in there in nineteen sixty nine. Came down
Speaker 9: and had my girlfriend was ripped, me and Susan from
Speaker 9: Cleveland and we're looking for a place to and pulled
Speaker 9: up the driveway at the form and there's a little
Speaker 9: girl a two piece bathing suit and she's blocking traffic.
Speaker 9: And there's a guy on the top floor and he's
Speaker 9: throwing a refrigerator over the balcony and the all these
Speaker 9: girls are standing by the swimming pool, these little girls,
Speaker 9: and said, guys with the and y know, and go
Speaker 9: go go, and off comes this this refrigerator down.
Speaker 11: Yeah.
Speaker 9: Yeah, he was trying to get a victed. He did
Speaker 9: get evicted then, but it was it was Jake Carp.
Speaker 9: It was Jay Carp with the Main Street auction house
Speaker 9: downtown and he hit the hit the driveway and I'm
Speaker 9: driving up and my my girlfriend said, you're not moving
Speaker 9: in here. That was on a Sunday and Monday, I
Speaker 9: signed the lease and moved in on my floor alone. Eventually,
Speaker 9: David Concepcion in the fault he downe the end of
Speaker 9: the hall. Next to him was Flynn Robinson. We got
Speaker 9: from the Milwaukee Broersport of Milwaukee basketball team for Oscar
Speaker 9: and uh, Mike Reed moved in. That was a bad trade. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 9: Mike Reed. Mike Reed moved in, all pro football player.
Speaker 9: And in the right across the hall was Doug Dressed
Speaker 9: to the back up full back with the Bengals. Next
Speaker 9: door Greg Uh. Kenny Anderson moved in with a defensive
Speaker 9: back friend of his. He didn't last very long. He
Speaker 9: couldn't take all the excitement. And and upstairs directory Johnny
Speaker 9: ban and then downstairs was Norman van Leer played for
Speaker 9: the Royal Dorman Norman and Jess Phillips. It was the
Speaker 9: full back they got out of prison. Uh, the full
Speaker 9: back for the Bengals and Tommy Helms. I mean this
Speaker 9: was like, this was unbelievable. This was the one one
Speaker 9: appartment building and parties wrote every weekend there was parties
Speaker 9: going on. It was incredible. That was That was my
Speaker 9: introduction to uh.
Speaker 1: Quickly tell the story about about the date with Johnny
Speaker 1: Bench and and you wound up going out with the
Speaker 1: girl that Johnny was with. You know that's no, no, no,
Speaker 1: here's what happened. This is a long story. It's a
Speaker 1: long story. Okay.
Speaker 9: I saw I met this lady at the squirrel my
Speaker 9: friend's squirrel brought her up to the top of the end.
Speaker 9: I used to sell here, yeah, and passed away a
Speaker 9: little while back, and uh, he brought this girl up
Speaker 9: to the top of the end. And I would have
Speaker 9: a celebrity night every time there was a new band
Speaker 9: that came in and I had to date that night.
Speaker 9: But he brought this girl, and I said, WHOA. So
Speaker 9: I danced with her one dance and she lived in
Speaker 9: She was airline stewardess with TWA should just quit and
Speaker 9: move back with her parents, and her parents would move
Speaker 9: from Cincinnatia to Dayton. And I danced with her, and
Speaker 9: I guess I danced through clothes and I said something like,
Speaker 9: you know, if you're geographically it's undesirable living that far. Well,
Speaker 9: it would be better if you live closer to it.
Speaker 9: So she didn't want have anything to do with me,
Speaker 9: and scrorel I called like that night, like at two
Speaker 9: o'clock in the morning, score, what's that girl's name? What's
Speaker 9: her number? You know, she doesn't want to talk to you.
Speaker 9: So next day she doesn't want to talk to you.
Speaker 9: He doesn't want to talk to you. So this went
Speaker 9: on and then about two weeks later, where after a
Speaker 9: Reds baseball game, one of the guys, I think it
Speaker 9: was Headrick had a TV guy had an apartment up
Speaker 9: in Mount Adams. And we're sitting there and I'm sitting
Speaker 9: next to a little fashioned coordinator you, a little redheaded
Speaker 9: girl and that was my date and Johnny was sitting
Speaker 9: on the other side of me. And Johnny goes, I
Speaker 9: think my date just walked in and it was this girl, Sally.
Speaker 9: This was the girl and I had told him about her.
Speaker 9: I said, I I love of this girl. This girl's
Speaker 9: like and he goes, well, you've got you've got a
Speaker 9: date here. You're a date here, I said, John, you
Speaker 9: take her.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 9: So I walk over. This girl walks in Sally. He goes, Hi,
Speaker 9: I'm at le barber. Remember I met you at the
Speaker 9: She looks at me, she goes into the washroom, walks
Speaker 9: out of the washroom, does anything.
Speaker 1: And she's gone. She's gone. So I go back and
Speaker 1: John sit next to this girl.
Speaker 9: I sit there between next to my date and John
Speaker 9: puts a big claw on my shoulder goes, hey, we
Speaker 9: gotta talk. I said, what do you mean, what do
Speaker 9: you mean we got to talk? Come here said what
Speaker 9: are you doing? I said, that's my date. I said,
Speaker 9: not anymore. It's not a good day. But that girl,
Speaker 9: Sally Yeah, ended up married her. And here's what, here's
Speaker 9: why she didn't like me. There was another girl named
Speaker 9: Donna Peters. I took her out on the Donna Yeah,
Speaker 9: Donna Perkins, and then she married a guy named Peters.
Speaker 9: And so we had a date and we went to
Speaker 9: Eddie Shepherd's Blind Lemon Mins and this other guy who
Speaker 9: really was in love with this girling was with.
Speaker 1: It was a double date.
Speaker 9: Was early on a Saturday night, probably been close to
Speaker 9: eight thirty nine o'clock. It was gonna be a good night.
Speaker 9: It was gonna be a good night. Very beautiful, long
Speaker 9: blonde here. So I said, what do you want? I
Speaker 9: wanted to the bar and she said seven up. I
Speaker 9: get to the bar and the bartender I was seven up, Jim,
Speaker 9: it's the same as a beer. I said, yeah, you're right,
Speaker 9: So I go back and I said seven up is
Speaker 9: the same as a beer. Well, I didn't listen to her.
Speaker 9: She said I would have seven up. So like forty
Speaker 9: five minutes later, these girls, both of them have a
Speaker 9: headache and they have to leave, so we took them
Speaker 9: both home. They were boss sick and at the Forum
Speaker 9: there's always parties going on. There's a big party going on,
Speaker 9: you know, about fifteen minutes after him. So I go
Speaker 9: to the party and there is my date, this Dauna.
Speaker 9: I'm recklessly feeling better and she's dancing.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 9: Well what happened was I didn't realize because years later,
Speaker 9: this is like almost two years later, she tells Sally
Speaker 9: when she's always coming back to town, don't go up
Speaker 9: with that Jimmy Larbarbera. There's a dis joct in town.
Speaker 9: Jimy Lar Barbera. Don't go out with him. He's egotistical
Speaker 9: and he's cheap. So that was the main that was
Speaker 9: the main reason why she wouldn't go out with me,
Speaker 9: because I didn't buy the girl a seven up.
Speaker 1: I forgot. Well, you're I mean, I know that you
Speaker 1: miss Sally so much. Yeah, and tough, hear, and it's
Speaker 1: been a tough year for you. But yeah, I know
Speaker 1: you're back out in the dating pool. So if I mean,
Speaker 1: if any eligible women are listening, Jim has been looking
Speaker 1: to get back out and about.
Speaker 2: So it's been an interesting journey.
Speaker 1: Yes, and you've told me some stories, and I feel
Speaker 1: badly for you. So let's use this forum fine to try.
Speaker 2: And find get a date. You can get a date
Speaker 2: with Jim Lebar.
Speaker 1: That's the problem.
Speaker 9: The problem, the major problem I have is that I
Speaker 9: can't lie about my age. I'm eighty four, I meany four.
Speaker 9: I can't lie about you. It's like you look fantastic
Speaker 9: eighty four but maybe four. So it's it in't coil.
Speaker 9: When we worked together for years later and Jane, Jim,
Speaker 9: you need to date somebody your your own age, they said,
Speaker 9: where am I going to go?
Speaker 1: The old folks?
Speaker 3: I'm going? We do?
Speaker 8: Come on.
Speaker 1: Well he's he's not egotistical, ladies, but he is still cheap.
Speaker 2: Still was it?
Speaker 1: Ray?
Speaker 5: He's eighty four, but he's got the hair, a head
Speaker 5: full of hair that I thought I was gonna have.
Speaker 5: And I just I ran the numbers. A dollar in
Speaker 5: nineteen sixty six is worth ten dollars today, So he
Speaker 5: I wouldn't say.
Speaker 1: He was cheap. I would say he was frugal.
Speaker 5: But he was making three hundred and seventy grand equivalent
Speaker 5: in nineteen sixty seven.
Speaker 2: Well, there you go, your Jimmy. He's smart.
Speaker 1: What he is good Jo.
Speaker 2: He's still a catch lady.
Speaker 1: We're going to take a break for news and we'll
Speaker 1: come back on the Bill Cunningham Show, Gary Jeff on
Speaker 1: my Birthday and more to come. Rick Robinson will be
Speaker 1: joining us soon. And we're still waiting for mister birthday
Speaker 1: tuba to blow. Somebody must have told him it was
Speaker 1: my birthday. Ray Scott and his wife brought all kinds
Speaker 1: of goodies for it, family heirlooms and such day from
Speaker 1: Harrison brought a cake for GJ and prof because the
Speaker 1: music professor is it's his birthday too. And somebody brought
Speaker 1: Dorothy Lane Market. I think so the sales department. Thanks
Speaker 1: sales department, Thanks Dorothy Lane Market, all for Gary Jeff
Speaker 1: and Jim Lebarber's birthday. And my producer on Saturday morning
Speaker 1: came and to show up to wish us both happy birthday.
Speaker 1: That's neat, that's neat. He walked in the studio. Liam
Speaker 1: did just a few moments. He goes, happy birthday, old man,
Speaker 1: what are you eighty five? And I pointed to Jim.
Speaker 1: I said no, but he's eighty four, and he said,
Speaker 1: well he looks better than you. I would agree, Liam,
Speaker 1: how you doing Buddy, it's an honor to be with
Speaker 1: Jim Lebarbar and Gary Jeff Walker. Well, you're you're kind
Speaker 1: of with us every Saturday morning until you move on.
Speaker 1: Like every other producer I've ever had on that show.
Speaker 12: I don't think I'm with anybody on Saturday mornings. Not
Speaker 12: there yet, you know, is that early? It's five am?
Speaker 1: Well, I mean technically you were with us in the
Speaker 1: other room, where I wish you would stay most of
Speaker 1: the time. No, you look good, man. You look like
Speaker 1: you've had some sleep. You look like somebody else dressed you,
Speaker 1: because I know you didn't dress yourself looking that good.
Speaker 1: Let's put on a sweater. I don't know how to
Speaker 1: ask Christmas Spirit. Merry Christmas to you, man, and I
Speaker 1: want to thank you. You know I've had in the
Speaker 1: almost twenty nine years i've been doing that show here
Speaker 1: on seven hundred WLW, I've had about twenty nine to
Speaker 1: thirty producers, and you've stayed considerably longer than most.
Speaker 12: It's only because I committed assault on you once and
Speaker 12: I'm worried you're going to charge me.
Speaker 1: So yeah, Liam came to the bar once and we
Speaker 1: were fake. We were playing air basketball, so I was
Speaker 1: moving my hand back and forth like I was dribbling
Speaker 1: a basketball because I did used to play.
Speaker 2: You'd never know it now.
Speaker 1: And I tried my reverse spin move and drove to
Speaker 1: the hoop and he's pretending to play defense, and just
Speaker 1: as I went up from my shot, he body checks
Speaker 1: me right onto the floor into the wall.
Speaker 12: I don't fall for pump fakes. You pump faked me.
Speaker 12: First off. I stood there like a brick wall. If
Speaker 12: you want to enter the paint, you're ready to play
Speaker 12: with the big dogs. Can't handle the heat, get out
Speaker 12: of the kitchen, the mouse in the house.
Speaker 13: I think it's important to point out that your you're
Speaker 13: now old enough to be injured playing a game of
Speaker 13: basketball without even having a ball in your hand.
Speaker 2: I mean, I just want to point out there.
Speaker 1: Was no there was no basket, there was no ball.
Speaker 1: I'm just air dribbling like you're posing for a picture
Speaker 1: and pull a muscle exactly, you know, and and you know,
Speaker 1: get into my my form there and he's just like
Speaker 1: swat swatted me like I was a bug or something,
Speaker 1: and just down on the ground. I went, I had
Speaker 1: uh cracked ribs for like about three months, his elbow
Speaker 1: was the size of the balloon. I was actually kind
Speaker 1: of scared and it was like that for like a month.
Speaker 1: I've got to pop it like a balloon and a
Speaker 1: lot of liquid coming out.
Speaker 2: There's no statute of limitations on that lamb.
Speaker 1: It's getting closed two years.
Speaker 2: Thank gosh.
Speaker 1: I'm counting down the days on the calendar. Excess keep
Speaker 1: going down for.
Speaker 2: Well, thanks for coming in, man, it's an honor.
Speaker 1: Grabs man in the room, grab some grub before it's
Speaker 1: all gone. Oh my good, all right man, Thanks Liam,
Speaker 1: Liam Tomlinson. Hear him try and read sports on Saturday morning.
Speaker 1: Also joining us in the studio at the Gary jeff
Speaker 1: birthday party on Willie's Shows, my friend Rick Robinson, lawyer
Speaker 1: and Northern Kentucky author UH an expert on nineteen sixty eight.
Speaker 1: That's why I wrote the book nineteen sixty eight. He's
Speaker 1: written many other books, both fiction and nonfiction, and he's
Speaker 1: here in the studio with us now. And thank you
Speaker 1: for making the trip. I know you've had some challenges.
Speaker 13: Well, you know what, the legs don't quite work like
Speaker 13: they used to. You got a couple more years to
Speaker 13: wait for that one. But you know, I gotta say
Speaker 13: all these other guys brought you something. I mean, I mean,
Speaker 13: I don't want to say they're chief skates. Huh yeah,
Speaker 13: I mean, I'm sure. I'm sure you all were very
Speaker 13: well intended. But I brought you ten thousand dollars ten
Speaker 13: ten thousand dollars, thousand dollars, well at least a chance
Speaker 13: to win ten thousand dollars scratch. I got you scratch off.
Speaker 1: If I win the ten thousand, can I have it
Speaker 1: in a Ludlow Bromley Uh?
Speaker 2: Bitcoins?
Speaker 13: Yeah, we're gonna have whoa we are still I'm still
Speaker 13: believing that we can still have the Ludlow Bromley bitcoin.
Speaker 8: Yeah.
Speaker 13: We did that one day on the air and I
Speaker 13: put something on Facebook about it. Yeah, and there were
Speaker 13: a couple of people who thought we were serious. And
Speaker 13: it's like, well, you know, because I said, and I
Speaker 13: mean Jim, I said, who should we put on the
Speaker 13: Ludlow Bromley bitcoin? And to me, there's only one answer, Bob,
Speaker 13: Bob ron right, absolutely absolutely all right, and maybe on
Speaker 13: the back you could have the words to sweet Violets
Speaker 13: or something like that.
Speaker 1: So Jath threw us part who was the guy who
Speaker 1: was the guy from Northern Kentucky, who wrote the famous Christmas.
Speaker 9: Songhaving Aillsbie Saving Lesbie.
Speaker 1: Could he be on the bitcoin? Maybe? Maybe he could
Speaker 1: be on one of the he wrote, He wrote one song, Kim. Well, no,
Speaker 1: he's not a lovelow guy, okay, and you got to
Speaker 1: be a love low guy. Dave Hatter will be on
Speaker 1: one of the coins. Of course, he's the mayor of
Speaker 1: Fort right now. But but they had to import him.
Speaker 1: I mean they really were. They had to importing from Ludlow.
Speaker 1: If any one or more of your numbers match either
Speaker 1: of the winning numbers, you win the prize shown below.
Speaker 1: You were matching numbers, and then there's symbols you can reveal.
Speaker 1: Let's just see. The winning numbers are twenty one and seventeen.
Speaker 1: This is a two dollars national Lampoon's Christmas Vacation, Ohio lottery.
Speaker 1: Scratch off my numbers right twelve. Oh he you know
Speaker 1: he pulled out the wrong coin.
Speaker 13: He pulled out a right handed coin and these left
Speaker 13: handed Well here, oh yeah, I'm not left handed.
Speaker 1: I just made that up. So it's just go with it, Okay.
Speaker 1: I'm not one of those guys. No, I don't need
Speaker 1: glasses yet it's ten thousand.
Speaker 13: Thanks for the effort, Rick, Okay, well you know I don't,
Speaker 13: I mean, I can I turn him in and get
Speaker 13: a chance.
Speaker 1: I gave you, I gave you to the right.
Speaker 2: Thank you, sir. I appreciate that you brought your book
Speaker 2: along with.
Speaker 13: Well, I did because I actually have a trivia question
Speaker 13: for mister le Barbara uh oh, nineteen Pride and I'm
Speaker 13: trying to say so in nineteen six, nineteen sixty eight,
Speaker 13: you were on the radio at WLW in nineteen sixty eight,
Speaker 13: I think Cleveland.
Speaker 9: That would have been kay and then WIXI part of
Speaker 9: wixy And when did you come here? Sixty nine? Okay,
Speaker 9: next year, all right, nineteen sixty eight, Rick Robinson with
Speaker 9: a question sixty eight.
Speaker 13: See if I can stump the professor by the way,
Speaker 13: I from the punk side, by the way, neither one
Speaker 13: of you will get it. But you also have a punker.
Speaker 13: You share a birthday with whom Joe strummer birthday is
Speaker 13: today the clash. Yes, okay, so there you go. I
Speaker 13: know who he is. Now here we go. Here's here's
Speaker 13: your question. It's nineteen sixty eight. January of sixty eight.
Speaker 13: The number one song was the same song that was
Speaker 13: number one in on December thirty first, but performed by
Speaker 13: a different group, a different performer. So the same song
Speaker 13: was number one on January one in nineteen seventy eight
Speaker 13: as it was on December thirty first, recorded by two
Speaker 13: different people. So the number one song at the beginning
Speaker 13: of the year is the number one song at the
Speaker 13: end of the year, but by a different artist.
Speaker 1: You got me. I don't know what.
Speaker 2: I stumped the professor.
Speaker 13: The answer to that is, I heard it through the
Speaker 13: grapevine by Marvin Gaye at the end of the.
Speaker 1: Last night and then Marvin Gaze. Yes last night than
Speaker 1: Marvin Good. That's good.
Speaker 9: That became the biggest Marvin Gaye's version became the biggest
Speaker 9: selling motown record for the whole decade of the sixties. Yeah,
Speaker 9: that was it been And you're right last night totally
Speaker 9: different arrangement.
Speaker 13: Yeah, different different arrange coming into the she was number
Speaker 13: one going out of the ear it was Marvin.
Speaker 1: That's a marvelous question. That's a good question. That's a
Speaker 1: good question.
Speaker 2: You should have known that.
Speaker 1: I should have known. You're right. I shouldn't know that.
Speaker 1: Trivia everything behind it.
Speaker 13: As soon as you tell him what the answer of
Speaker 13: you has got everything up here in ram in the
Speaker 13: head that he just gets a button then.
Speaker 9: It comes out. That's like Dusty rhodes Us. He said, well,
Speaker 9: now what about the record label? What color was the label?
Speaker 9: I said, I have no idea. What was the flip side?
Speaker 9: I don't know. I can tell you that, you know,
Speaker 9: Frankie Lyman wents to to stit you in your high
Speaker 9: school Truman Grimes was the bass singer. But you know what,
Speaker 9: I still can't tell you my kid's birthdays, you know,
Speaker 9: and truthfully, my my wife, my own wife's birthday. I
Speaker 9: got into an argument just a few years ago because
Speaker 9: my daughter Shelby forgot to remind me. I said, Shelby,
Speaker 9: what's wrong with you? You didn't remind me? Was sally
Speaker 9: Mom's birthday?
Speaker 14: You know?
Speaker 9: So I but all this other trivia stuff and the
Speaker 9: artist and what happened and Johnny know that stuff.
Speaker 1: I remember. Oh, it's like you know, will and I'm
Speaker 1: more tells you the subconsciously what you have important in
Speaker 1: your brain, at what you consider important and what you
Speaker 1: don't apparently I know. Apparently, No, it's not good. It's
Speaker 1: not good.
Speaker 9: I'm worried about to mention that, but I can remember
Speaker 9: all that kind of stuffy, all that stuff.
Speaker 2: I think you're pretty sharp.
Speaker 13: You'll be the guy at the home going down and
Speaker 13: knowing all the words to all the songs.
Speaker 1: Oh, I don't know.
Speaker 9: I don't know the words of the songs either. Because
Speaker 9: it's a disc jockey. We play the intro, we play
Speaker 9: the outro, and then while the record's playing, we're busy
Speaker 9: chewing up tapes in those days, getting the talking on
Speaker 9: the phone. Know that stuff, I got that. You know
Speaker 9: the trip that we made to ann Arber with the
Speaker 9: Art Bulow's birthday party. I tink to me that was
Speaker 9: one of the highlights of the last ten years of
Speaker 9: my life because Joey Wynolds was there, and Joey Wendlds
Speaker 9: was a big disc jockey in Buffalo, New York. And
Speaker 9: I was ready to drop out a radio in uh
Speaker 9: nineteen sixty it was nineteen sixty six. I was ready
Speaker 9: to quit radio. The poke director at the station said,
Speaker 9: you know, Jim, you don't have any talent. You have
Speaker 9: no talent. So my buddy and another radio station said,
Speaker 9: let's go see Joey Rentols. I bought tape up to
Speaker 9: Joey Rentolds at kb in Buffalo and he said, you
Speaker 9: sound like Bobby Mitchell in San Francisco. He said, I'm
Speaker 9: not leaving, and Danny never at the afternoon, Guy's not leaving.
Speaker 9: But man, you sound good enough. You you sound really good.
Speaker 9: And that kept me in radio, and then like two
Speaker 9: months three months later, I got the job offer in
Speaker 9: Cleveland on the same tape that the guy, the program
Speaker 9: director at the station said, hey, you don't have any talent.
Speaker 9: So that's the craziness of business. And I wanted to
Speaker 9: thank Joey in person because if I was ready to
Speaker 9: drop out, I was all ready to go back home
Speaker 9: the school teacher somewhere, a teaching degree, sure, and that
Speaker 9: was it. But we had a chance to thank you know,
Speaker 9: here's Joey Reynolds. So it was so great to be
Speaker 9: there with those.
Speaker 1: Somebody just brought us up at the bar this weekend
Speaker 1: and I said, it was my birthday on Monday and said,
Speaker 1: you know, in our family, and it's tradition that you
Speaker 1: don't have a birthday, you have like a birth year
Speaker 1: because we consider it from the time that you're conceived
Speaker 1: in the womb, that nine months in the womb whoa, whoa.
Speaker 1: So technically I've been sixty five for quite a while,
Speaker 1: and I believe that because I do believe that life begins. Now,
Speaker 1: let me ask you this.
Speaker 9: Did you get a Christmas present and they say, hey, well,
Speaker 9: this is your Christmas and your Birthday present because I
Speaker 9: got that.
Speaker 1: All the time we were covering that earlier. Yeah, they
Speaker 1: never saying happy birthday.
Speaker 2: My parents were great. We never had a birthday. My
Speaker 2: parents were great.
Speaker 1: About it because they would separate, you know, and I
Speaker 1: had three younger brothers, so they got a little jealous.
Speaker 1: And by the time Christmas came around, I felt a
Speaker 1: little guilty because I'd gotten all these presents, but there
Speaker 1: was always the one present that was a big president.
Speaker 1: It was well, this is for both Birthday and Christmas.
Speaker 1: I also wanted to wish happy Birthday to Kim Wisdom
Speaker 1: Wisdom who works for iHeartMedia. Her birthday is December twenty second,
Speaker 1: ten years after mine, and Kim also some work over
Speaker 1: for the Bengals I think in the in the pro
Speaker 1: shop or whatever. But Happy Birthday Kim Wisdom, along with
Speaker 1: him Barbara and Me, Gary, Jeff Walker and mister Birthday
Speaker 1: Tuba is here. Jac Are you ready to uh to
Speaker 1: oompah us out into the break here.
Speaker 2: Let's do this right, uh.
Speaker 15: Uh uh.
Speaker 1: Uh uh.
Speaker 14: Uh uh.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 15: And so I'll be quiet man and and and answer
Speaker 15: your questions so I can get to work.
Speaker 3: Uh hello, quiet, I'm broadcasting.
Speaker 1: Yes, a wise guy and a bunch of wise guys.
Speaker 1: And one of those wise guys is name Seg Dennison,
Speaker 1: and he's here now.
Speaker 2: For his dudes.
Speaker 1: What's going on there? Gary, Jeff? And we got the
Speaker 1: birthday party for me and the prop Jim Lebarbara. It's
Speaker 1: standing rom only in there.
Speaker 16: I know, I know it's a I mean I'm waiting
Speaker 16: for you know, a lot more celebrities to come by.
Speaker 1: Well, I believe Willie's coming by just after two, so well,
Speaker 1: and that he's jumping out of the cake I heard. Well,
Speaker 1: it was his birthday just eleven days ago. Did he
Speaker 1: throw a party like this for himself? No? No, no,
Speaker 1: I guess he's not as excited about being seventy eight
Speaker 1: as I am being sixty five. There you go.
Speaker 2: I got one of your classmates in here from Cole Rain.
Speaker 1: Who might that be?
Speaker 2: David Wells?
Speaker 1: Is his name?
Speaker 13: Yes?
Speaker 2: Saved from Harrison is?
Speaker 8: Yes?
Speaker 1: I will come in and see him in a few minutes.
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Speaker 1: E A T Spots.
Speaker 16: And we also want to thank Dorothy Lane Market. Oh,
Speaker 16: quality is their foundation, Gary jeff There believable sprits, the
Speaker 16: ham and the chips and I mean everything. It's now
Speaker 16: opening Mason at seventy two hundred Mason Montgomery Roads. We'll
Speaker 16: get there and get some great food as we have
Speaker 16: today for your birthday.
Speaker 2: Oh, it's delicious.
Speaker 16: And we also want to thank Victoria Vassilo, the sister
Speaker 16: in law of Brian Combs, for once again coming through
Speaker 16: with her massive tray of homemade Christmas cookies here at
Speaker 16: the station.
Speaker 2: You know segment.
Speaker 1: I was diagnosed six years ago with type two diabetes.
Speaker 1: It's not bad, but I just looked at the plate
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Speaker 16: Let's see what else is going on? Oh, Georgetown, the
Speaker 16: Hoyas suspending their head coach Ed Cooley for three games
Speaker 16: the next three games following his outburst after the lost
Speaker 16: of Xavier Saturday night in d c oh.
Speaker 2: I thought maybe he was sleeping with an undergrad.
Speaker 16: He threw a bottle mission a white water bottle into
Speaker 16: the stands and struck a child.
Speaker 1: What yeah, right?
Speaker 16: At the end of the bench. So on's the way
Speaker 16: you're throwing things here, just you know, take a loss
Speaker 16: and that's it. So what are you doing for Christmas?
Speaker 2: Segment?
Speaker 1: Just sitting around the house, Gary Jeff.
Speaker 2: And taking it easy.
Speaker 16: No second clause this year I did it twice, did
Speaker 16: it for our church and then also uh for for
Speaker 16: the station here, and nobody else called segment I'm available,
Speaker 16: but uh, nobody called anybody.
Speaker 1: Need a sega clause He's available. Anything to get him
Speaker 1: out of the house with Denise. He's ready, not true,
Speaker 1: just coming. He knows she's listening.
Speaker 2: That's not true.
Speaker 16: How quick that exactly exactly segment Happy Birthday, Gary Jeff
Speaker 16: into the prof. Merry Christmas is the prof sixty five
Speaker 16: The prof is a slight thirty nine and holding that's
Speaker 16: let's go with thirty nine and hold it.
Speaker 9: I got to tell you SEG's dad, Segg's dad would
Speaker 9: play Santa Claus, came to our house many many times
Speaker 9: and broad gifts.
Speaker 1: That's right.
Speaker 9: And I'd say, well, what do I owe you? And
Speaker 9: you say no, no, no, you're fine, You're fine, wonderful.
Speaker 9: Your dad was absolutely beautiful. Thank you forfet And it's
Speaker 9: good you're doing the same tradition you put it up
Speaker 9: on it.
Speaker 1: I'm trying. It's fune. We have a few people here
Speaker 1: in the studio we've got to recognize before we get
Speaker 1: out of the stuge report. And let me get this
Speaker 1: phone call David. You can let Aunt Merle come on.
Speaker 1: I know this lady. She's wonderful and she celebrates her
Speaker 1: birthdays with me. So she's celebrating my birthday with herself.
Speaker 1: Aunt Merle.
Speaker 17: Good afternoon, Happy birthday, Happy Birthday, and then Merry Christmas.
Speaker 18: And you know this. First of all, I offered my
Speaker 18: masks for your intentions this morning, and that's my happy
Speaker 18: Birthday gift to you.
Speaker 2: That's why it's going so well, Merle.
Speaker 18: Okay. And then the other thing, I want to make
Speaker 18: a reminder in this Christmas season, the January sixth is
Speaker 18: coming up soon, and that is the feast of the Epiphany,
Speaker 18: the wise man who come to visit Jesus.
Speaker 2: January sixth, the feast of the Epiphany.
Speaker 18: Yes, yes, and I thought that's a good reminder on
Speaker 18: your birthday.
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, thanks Merle, love you, love you. We
Speaker 1: also have a lady Lynette in studio who would like
Speaker 1: to sing are you ready Lynette.
Speaker 19: Yes, oh right, Happy birthday do you? Happy birthday? Do
Speaker 19: Happy birthday? Will Jim the Barber and Gary Jay Happy
Speaker 19: birthday do.
Speaker 10: You?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: No, Dave from Dayton, also day from Dayton also collected
Speaker 1: and Dave, if you can turn down this stuge music
Speaker 1: just for a second. He also brought us Dick from Dayton.
Speaker 2: There's nobody nobody.
Speaker 1: Nobody knows me, do they? Everybody knows you, from coast
Speaker 1: to coast. You show up, You show up on sports talk,
Speaker 1: national sports talk shows, just to just to say hi,
Speaker 1: I've heard you. I mean, you're like on National sports
Speaker 1: talks every Saturday morning.
Speaker 2: Dick from Dayton will call me.
Speaker 1: But Dick calls everybody, and you're kind of upset Mowagger's
Speaker 1: not here because you wanted to give him a piece
Speaker 1: of your mind because he never takes your call, right Dick.
Speaker 15: Well, I mean I just try. You guys got different rules.
Speaker 15: We'll keep trying. Yeah, but I'll tell you who did
Speaker 15: take my call. Who's we were talking about? Uh, Marty
Speaker 15: Brenneman's birthday. Yeah, Uh, he was glad to talk to me.
Speaker 15: The call more Lance McAllister. Oh so Lance will take
Speaker 15: your calls. But MO won't take your calls once in
Speaker 15: a while, you know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, do you remember the time you called MO and
Speaker 1: you fell asleep while you were waiting on hold? I
Speaker 1: did that to chicks, you I fell asleep. So you
Speaker 1: wanted to play a little bit for us, Dick?
Speaker 2: What do you want?
Speaker 1: What do you want? One?
Speaker 2: Jingle bells?
Speaker 20: I've seen to this had a one horse open Say oh, well, jingle.
Speaker 14: Bells, dingle bells, dingle all the way. Ride say jingle bells,
Speaker 14: jingle bells, jingle all the way. Oh, what fun it
Speaker 14: is to ride in a one horse open side.
Speaker 2: Wow?
Speaker 1: Who I want to know? Who tuned that ukulele? No,
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what I Doug gave me this in
Speaker 1: the banjo group.
Speaker 2: It's funny. The mandled in.
Speaker 15: I would take places, you know what. It's cold, Yeah,
Speaker 15: we couldn't get him to and ukulele will stay in tune.
Speaker 15: It stays in two until until it gets in the studio. Well,
Speaker 15: if you put it, my uncle used to get mad.
Speaker 15: I'd leave my mandolin and stuff in the back seat
Speaker 15: in the summer and.
Speaker 1: Right, well, it can warp with the temperature change, right.
Speaker 13: Yeah, So that sounds like my aging formula.
Speaker 1: And get warm and it gets warped. I don't think
Speaker 1: we need to go any further into that. Rick, thank
Speaker 1: you very much for the for offering that information that
Speaker 1: we didn't ask for.
Speaker 2: Lynette.
Speaker 1: Yes, let me ask you, dear, what's going on at
Speaker 1: the home for Christmas?
Speaker 11: What do you there? I'm the Christmas party now at
Speaker 11: two thirty. I don't know if I get back in time.
Speaker 11: Part Well, so I want to meet Willie he's coming year.
Speaker 2: Well, he's he's going to be here too.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I'm sure he would love to meet you
Speaker 1: before uh, you have to go. But he also asked
Speaker 1: me to get the rabble out by the time he
Speaker 1: got here. I don't know, I don't. I don't think
Speaker 1: you're part of the rabble though, I don't. Probably mister
Speaker 1: birthday Tuba, No, I'm kidding. Is he here?
Speaker 10: He is?
Speaker 1: He's right behind you. Oh, anything you'd like to say
Speaker 1: to mister birthday Tuba?
Speaker 11: I would like to hear him play happy birthday to you,
Speaker 11: my love.
Speaker 2: Well, he just did a few minutes ago.
Speaker 11: You used to I guess we were outside, Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you were just outside the door when he delivered.
Speaker 9: Can you paint a picture of what she's wearing okay,
Speaker 9: And I would tell you that it looks like his
Speaker 9: birthday was like Marilyn Monroe.
Speaker 1: Very much so everything. But mister President, she got Willy,
Speaker 1: she got you, and she got me. Even though Willy's
Speaker 1: birthday was eleven days ago.
Speaker 11: Well we had to honor it anyway.
Speaker 1: All Right, we've got a call on the line here,
Speaker 1: doctor Dennis in Annapolis, Maryland.
Speaker 2: Good afternoon, How are you, sir?
Speaker 21: All right, good afternoon, and happy birthday on your sixty fifth.
Speaker 2: Thank you, sir?
Speaker 1: What they.
Speaker 21: I just I tried to get in the other day,
Speaker 21: but you were your show was crammed, so I couldn't
Speaker 21: get on.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well maybe maybe the show needs a little constipation medicine.
Speaker 21: Uh so I want to I thought I was. I
Speaker 21: was delighted to you know, here you were filling in
Speaker 21: for Willy today and having your birthday, your birthday celebration.
Speaker 1: So you were you were the one that was delighted
Speaker 1: to hear that I was filling in for Willy today. Yeah, right, okay,
Speaker 1: good at least it was, don't you say, Lynette?
Speaker 11: I one, two, three, four of us are thrilled that
Speaker 11: you're here.
Speaker 2: Well, thank you so much. We're thrilled to have you here.
Speaker 1: Uh, and we want to thank Dave Bachrath for bringing
Speaker 1: both Dick from Dayton and lady Lynette in. Thank you,
Speaker 1: mister Dave for this stooge report. Absolutely, thank you, my friend.
Speaker 11: And God bless you.
Speaker 8: Rick.
Speaker 1: Do you have any final words of wisdom before we
Speaker 1: break from this stooge report and make way for the
Speaker 1: great one? You know, I'm supposed.
Speaker 13: To be going out front and rolling out of the
Speaker 13: red carpet for Willie, so I've been actually, you know,
Speaker 13: getting that together. I don't don't have any words other
Speaker 13: than uh, you know, as we sit here and and
Speaker 13: and celebrate the birthdays, especially of our friend Jim le
Speaker 13: Barbara and Gary Jeff. But I just want to point
Speaker 13: out I stumped Jim le Barbara on a niceties question.
Speaker 13: I just want to say that that is now I'm
Speaker 13: gonna I'm gonna get a T shirt made up that
Speaker 13: says that.
Speaker 1: Well so much so I saw him, I saw him
Speaker 1: taking copious notes when he found out what the answer was.
Speaker 2: He will never forget that again.
Speaker 1: I will Number one January nineteen sixty eight. I heard
Speaker 1: it through the grape vine by Gladys Night in the
Speaker 1: Pips December thirty first, nineteen sixty eight.
Speaker 2: I heard it through the grapevine, number one by Marvin guests.
Speaker 9: Sixty seven, sixty seven glad and then sixty eight. Yeah
Speaker 9: it was.
Speaker 13: It was January one, sixty eight, December thirty first for Marvin.
Speaker 1: It was number one on January first, number one. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and then okay, release dates?
Speaker 2: I got you.
Speaker 1: Are we I.
Speaker 2: What's in?
Speaker 1: What's?
Speaker 22: Suggested an annual tradition on this December twenty second to
Speaker 22: take Willie Show over and do this every year.
Speaker 1: And yeah, step up to the mic, Dave, can't. I
Speaker 1: can't hear you, Dave, step up to the mic there, Yeah.
Speaker 22: No, I suggest hijacking Willy Show every December twenty second
Speaker 22: for a birthday show with you and Jim Lebarber every
Speaker 22: every season. This is great to bring the gang all together,
Speaker 22: your old Saturday morning shows.
Speaker 2: All here pretty much.
Speaker 1: Yeah every year, had old Radio Rick on earlier.
Speaker 2: Everybody but mo.
Speaker 8: There.
Speaker 22: Good as Jim lebarbar looks. I think he got twenty
Speaker 22: more years of these shows left.
Speaker 1: We have a we have a Bengals update just ahead
Speaker 1: in a few minutes, and Bill Cunningham will be joining us.
Speaker 1: We have breaking news today if you've been listening at
Speaker 1: the top and the bottom of the hour. Someone did
Speaker 1: not have hepatitis as was alleged earlier, and it relates
Speaker 1: to Nathaniel Jones and a infamous release by the Hamilton
Speaker 1: County Prosecutor, County Village. We will discuss in greater detail
Speaker 1: in minutes here on seven hundred w l W into
Speaker 1: another hour of this Bill Cutingham Show, Gary Jeff Walker
Speaker 1: on my birthday. You know it was Willie's birthday eleven
Speaker 1: days ago, so I get a chance to say in
Speaker 1: person happy birthday to the man himself on his show
Speaker 1: who was stumbled in, fumbled, stumbled and fumbled in because
Speaker 1: there's breaking news today and we have last meet Somarco,
Speaker 1: the Hamilton County corner who said it would be all
Speaker 1: right to call with the breaking news that there was
Speaker 1: no hepatitis. We're talking, of course, about the the Elwood
Speaker 1: Jones murder case, who was released summarily summarily released from
Speaker 1: a murder bond from death row, from death row on
Speaker 1: his own recognizance by County Pillage, the Hamilton County Prosecutor.
Speaker 1: But based on this new evidence, everything has been thrown
Speaker 1: asunder and Willie, Can you set that up even better
Speaker 1: for me than I just did? Gary Jeff first of
Speaker 1: us honored to be on your show. It's great to
Speaker 1: be on your show anytime I get the chance.
Speaker 23: The issue that caused Judge Wendy Cross and then Connie
Speaker 23: Pillach in one case offer a new tribe because of
Speaker 23: a quote newly discovered evidence metastasized to Connie Pilag County
Speaker 23: Prisco holding a news conference in what she said, I
Speaker 23: am freeing Elwood Jones from the murder of Roodon Nathan
Speaker 23: because of quote newly discovered evidence, which was the hepatitis
Speaker 23: B that allegedly that they had, so as Elwood's hand
Speaker 23: bashed into the mouth of Rhoda and knocking a tooth
Speaker 23: into her stomach, that that was the theory of the prosecution,
Speaker 23: that somehow that would be communicated transmitted to Ellwood, who
Speaker 23: did not have hepatitis B. So I spoke to the
Speaker 23: County corner, I spoke to other noted individuals who said
Speaker 23: that even if that happened, that even if Rhoda had
Speaker 23: hepatitis B, which you get through needle use or frequent sex,
Speaker 23: which upset the family, shall we say quite a bit
Speaker 23: for Grandma, but nonetheless secondary issue. The odds of transmission
Speaker 23: are about one out of three, So there's a two
Speaker 23: thirds chance that didn't happen, one third it did. Is
Speaker 23: that concrete, irrefutable evidence, Gary, Jeff, I present that to
Speaker 23: you enough to release a convicted murderer off death row
Speaker 23: with an our band, And so is this case metastasized?
Speaker 23: The county corner who we're gonna call here in a moment,
Speaker 23: said to her staff, since this case has such great interest,
Speaker 23: now let's go back in time and pull out the
Speaker 23: original slides in the original autopsy. Because during the autopsy,
Speaker 23: the organs are held in the technician's hands and you
Speaker 23: look at the livery, you look at the kidney as
Speaker 23: you look at it, then you slice it a little
Speaker 23: bit and take slides and you and there's reports written
Speaker 23: about whether or not this patient was dying of cancer
Speaker 23: of the liver or cancer. We make sure you have
Speaker 23: the right homicide. Sure, And so the coroner said in
Speaker 23: this report that I'm looking at that the deceited did
Speaker 23: not have hepatitis B, which was the main reason that
Speaker 23: this judicial system freed with Jones. And so I think
Speaker 23: is this doctor Somarco on the line.
Speaker 2: Yet she is. She's ready to join us right now,
Speaker 2: LEAs we'll bring her on.
Speaker 1: Doctor Somarco, you are on the air with Gary, Jeff
Speaker 1: Walker and Bill Cunningham.
Speaker 2: Good afternoon, ma'am.
Speaker 8: Good afternoon.
Speaker 23: Now, doctor Somarco, to put more meat on these bones,
Speaker 23: I'll ask you specifically, did RhoD of Nathan when she
Speaker 23: was murdered have hepatitis B?
Speaker 24: Well, the lab test that was run on her blood
Speaker 24: says no.
Speaker 23: Did anyone else run test on her blood at that
Speaker 23: time other than Hamony County Corner's office under the leadership
Speaker 23: I think of doctor Cleveland.
Speaker 24: The only thing I'm aware of in reviewing her case
Speaker 24: file was that she was taken from the hotel to
Speaker 24: but As the North Hospital, So I figured they must
Speaker 24: have run some tests on her, and we reached out
Speaker 24: to them before we put out our press release today
Speaker 24: because we wanted to make sure we had as much
Speaker 24: information as possible, and we were informed the Trihealth's medical
Speaker 24: record retention was only ten years, so they didn't have
Speaker 24: any information before that that was a dead end.
Speaker 2: How reliable is that blood test?
Speaker 24: Well, we as.
Speaker 1: A definitive.
Speaker 24: Yes, yes, I mean that. So in reviewing the records.
Speaker 24: It came from a company which unfortunately is no longer.
Speaker 18: That was the other thing we did.
Speaker 24: We were trying to be very thorough. We reached out,
Speaker 24: we tried to research this company which was in Cyprus, California,
Speaker 24: but it was called Microbiology Reference Laboratory, and that's where
Speaker 24: a lot of the infectious disease samples were sent at
Speaker 24: the time. And both the HIV test and the hepatitis
Speaker 24: B tests were run at that laboratory, and we have
Speaker 24: the reports from both of those tests and it says
Speaker 24: on well, it says referring to it, it says hepatitis
Speaker 24: B surface eagen negatives was there?
Speaker 23: I can fairly say, going back thirty some years, that
Speaker 23: was the definitive report from the laboratory run at that
Speaker 23: point by doctor Cleveland to prove beyond any reasonable doubt
Speaker 23: that that wrote it did not have hepatitis B.
Speaker 2: Is that correct?
Speaker 24: Yes, that was. And in addition to that, just to
Speaker 24: let you know the actual physical evidence and the microscope
Speaker 24: slides and so forth, we don't have that anymore, but
Speaker 24: the notes from the review of those slides, those are
Speaker 24: in the case file, and there's nothing in those notes
Speaker 24: that indicates acute inflammatory changes of the liver to indicate
Speaker 24: whether she had appetitis or not. So there isn't any
Speaker 24: evidence in those notes to indicate that she had any
Speaker 24: inflammation of the liver.
Speaker 2: Well, where did this information come from? Then?
Speaker 1: If you've got the reports? They had access to the reports,
Speaker 1: did they not? I mean yes, was this made up
Speaker 1: out of thin air? I mean, what's your well, I
Speaker 1: know it's congecture, but yeah.
Speaker 24: You're yeah exactly so Yeah, because in nineteen ninety four
Speaker 24: I lived in la So my theory is is at
Speaker 24: that time these two dictate the pathologists used to dictate
Speaker 24: their findings, and then their dictations will be transcribed by
Speaker 24: a person into our report. And during that transcription they
Speaker 24: also would input the test results that were available, and
Speaker 24: any other testing results that were pertinent to the death
Speaker 24: investigation would be put into that final report, the death
Speaker 24: record as they called it, and.
Speaker 1: Reviewing that.
Speaker 24: Somebody definitely along the way, either it was dictated incorrectly
Speaker 24: or transcribed incorrectly. But the report it says zerology hepatitis
Speaker 24: CRMB surface and egen positive.
Speaker 23: So who did that? Like a secretarial clerk function?
Speaker 24: Yeah, yeah, it would have been somebody who was a
Speaker 24: transcriptionist at the time.
Speaker 1: So here's the big question. Are you ready, doctor for
Speaker 1: the big question.
Speaker 24: I'm always ready for your big questions, Willie. That doesn't
Speaker 24: mean I'm going to answer your big questions, but I'm
Speaker 24: ready for it.
Speaker 23: Over the last several months, according to news media accounts,
Speaker 23: the Prosecutor's office under Connor Pillage went through an exhaustive
Speaker 23: examination of all the records relative to the death of
Speaker 23: Rodin Nathan, including all the autopsy, etc. And there was
Speaker 23: a big news conference she held in which she stood
Speaker 23: before the seal of the Great State of Ohio and
Speaker 23: the Prosecutor's office claiming that new scientific evidence excluded Elwood
Speaker 23: Jones from being the murderer. Factually, is that accurate?
Speaker 10: No?
Speaker 24: I don't know what the new scientific evidence is.
Speaker 1: Wel So did well?
Speaker 23: Is there any communication, phone call, text message between you
Speaker 23: and the Prosecutor's office the last several months about this case.
Speaker 17: Yeah.
Speaker 24: During the second week of December, we received the communication
Speaker 24: from a member of the Prosecutor's office asking if we
Speaker 24: had any DNA evidence.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 24: Yeah, And at that time our administrator opened the file
Speaker 24: that was all the papers had been scanned into our
Speaker 24: database so that they you know, instead of moving papers
Speaker 24: when we moved into this the new office, we tried
Speaker 24: to scan all the paperwork into a database so it
Speaker 24: was all electronic instead of having to move boxes and
Speaker 24: boxes of files. So all of her case file information
Speaker 24: had been scanned into our database, so it was all electronic.
Speaker 24: So she pulled up the file to look through the
Speaker 24: file to see if there was any DNA evidence, and
Speaker 24: there was not.
Speaker 23: Okay DNA, she reported that. But did the prosecutor's office
Speaker 23: ask about the original results of hepatitis B?
Speaker 1: Yes? Or no? No? Well, who was the prosecutor at
Speaker 1: the time, and if these reports had been filed erroneously
Speaker 1: at the time, I mean where did where did the
Speaker 1: translation get lost? I guess along the way. Did they
Speaker 1: know at the time in nineteen ninety four or at
Speaker 1: the time of the trial? Did they believe that Rhoda
Speaker 1: had hepatitis B? Did they believe that then? Yes, they
Speaker 1: believe that then, but it wasn't brought up at trial.
Speaker 23: Well on that front, is Joe and Mark the prosecutors
Speaker 23: how big of an issue is hepatitis BE at trial?
Speaker 23: And the answer was wasn't a big issue at all,
Speaker 23: because even if it happened, which is very unlikely. The
Speaker 23: odds are no more than one out of three. That
Speaker 23: means two out of three there'd be no positive result.
Speaker 23: But as I understand your comments, uh, doctor somarco that
Speaker 23: when you said, no, prosecutor's office in December of this
Speaker 23: year of this year did not inquire about the original
Speaker 23: test results of hepatitis B being negative.
Speaker 2: Is that correct?
Speaker 8: That's correct?
Speaker 1: Oh okay, now what do you do well?
Speaker 24: I mean, I was also going to say that, you know,
Speaker 24: the the one in three figure comes from a study
Speaker 24: done on IVY drug abusers sharing dirty needles.
Speaker 1: I don't think. I don't think Rode it was.
Speaker 24: My grandma was Is that that doesn't even apply here
Speaker 24: because the risk to anybody that wasn't an IVY drug
Speaker 24: abuser sharing dirty needles would be a lot less.
Speaker 23: And the family, I was told by a knowledgeable person
Speaker 23: that they were extremely upset to find out that grandma
Speaker 23: might have been a frequent IVY drug abuser and or
Speaker 23: frequent sex involving blood, and that was sticking in the
Speaker 23: back of their head for a long time. Oh my god,
Speaker 23: maybe this grandmother we knew, with three kids and ten grandchildren,
Speaker 23: was beaten to death. And so can you put to
Speaker 23: rest the idea that even if which it isn't, the
Speaker 23: case that hepatitis B was present with the deceit in
Speaker 23: which it wasn't, Even if that is true, it's no
Speaker 23: more than a one third chance that Elwood would have
Speaker 23: been infected.
Speaker 2: Is that correct?
Speaker 24: Yes, that's my understanding based on the expert with this
Speaker 24: testimony and my knowledge.
Speaker 1: Yes.
Speaker 23: And the key is, while the exhaustive investigation of Connie
Speaker 23: Pillach was ongoing, there was no communication from them to
Speaker 23: your office about the original hepatitis BE result being negative.
Speaker 1: Is that correct?
Speaker 8: Yes?
Speaker 1: My question would be how strong was the forensic evidence,
Speaker 1: the actual evidence that they had that Elwood Jones had
Speaker 1: killed Rhoda Daniel in the first place. How was it
Speaker 1: just circumstantial evidence?
Speaker 2: Was it?
Speaker 1: What was the strength of that forensic evidence on the
Speaker 1: body of Rhoda Daniel on you know, involvement DNA with
Speaker 1: Daniel Nathaniel with I'm sorry, Elwood Jones, Elwood Jones.
Speaker 24: So let's address the DNA issue. We did not have
Speaker 24: DNA analysis capability in the Hamilton County Corner's office until
Speaker 24: nineteen ninety five. Moving forward, Okay, So I believe looking
Speaker 24: at the records that the biological evidence collected at the
Speaker 24: time was requested to be sent to BCI.
Speaker 1: Okay, so there's no DNA now.
Speaker 23: Lastly, one of the other key pieces of evidence is
Speaker 23: that diamond necklace found in the toolbox of Elwood Jones,
Speaker 23: that Defense Council claims was likely planted there by someone
Speaker 23: some mysterious force put it there. When I had on
Speaker 23: Mark Petemeyer last week, he said that the diamond necklace
Speaker 23: that rode ahead around her neck when she came out
Speaker 23: of the shower was ripped off her neck, as proven
Speaker 23: by the woman her friend who found the body that
Speaker 23: noted that they even took the diamond necklace off her neck.
Speaker 23: In fact, in the back, the connecting elements were not disconnected.
Speaker 2: They were ripped.
Speaker 23: Before the Blue Ash Police arrived. The Blue Ash Police
Speaker 23: didn't arrive for fifteen minutes. And therefore you told me
Speaker 23: I think I read somewhere or heard that the actual
Speaker 23: toolbox of Edward Jones, supposedly Defense Council says it was
Speaker 23: planted by the Blue Ash Police. The car containing the
Speaker 23: toolbox was in the garage of the Hamiony County Corner's office.
Speaker 1: Is that correct.
Speaker 24: The from my understanding and looking at the case file,
Speaker 24: that car was delivered to the old building, to the
Speaker 24: garage of the old building and for our trace evidence
Speaker 24: people to do their investigations.
Speaker 23: And the diamond necklace is never noted into evidence because
Speaker 23: it was gone, and it was gone because the killer
Speaker 23: took it, and it was found in the box available
Speaker 23: with Jones.
Speaker 24: Yeah, dependent, dependent was found in that toolbox. That's correct,
Speaker 24: in the car.
Speaker 23: Well, where do we go from hair, Doc, Yeah, that's
Speaker 23: a good question, because the case was dismissing the experts.
Speaker 24: I'm just presenting. I'm just presenting the scientific facts as
Speaker 24: I found them in the case file.
Speaker 1: No hepatitis B, no hepatitis B, no baby, no.
Speaker 24: No HIV, and no hepatitis B.
Speaker 1: Doctor Somarco, thank you so much for the information this afternoon.
Speaker 21: Yeah, absolutely, thank you so much.
Speaker 1: So Willie, let me ask you the truth will set
Speaker 1: us free. As an attorney, let me ask you what
Speaker 1: kind of evidence was presented at trial the convictadom would.
Speaker 23: You several elements? Number one, he had a pass key.
Speaker 23: There was four people with a pass key. He was
Speaker 23: one of the four. Number two when he punched Wrotea's
Speaker 23: teeth down into her stomach. There was a specialized virus
Speaker 23: that exists only in the human body on the gum line,
Speaker 23: so a person is called is called a boxer's virus
Speaker 23: that when you punch somebody, if you have gloves on,
Speaker 23: it wouldn't happen, but if you're a boxer. He had
Speaker 23: suffered severe injuries to his left hand after he killed Rhoda.
Speaker 23: Three employees noted he wrapped his hands and they asked him,
Speaker 23: what happened to your hand early in the morning. He
Speaker 23: didn't have bandages on. He said, Number one, I heard
Speaker 23: it on a dumpster. Number two, I heard it when
Speaker 23: I was putting tables together. He never explained his story
Speaker 23: changed changed. Three days, he goes to a hand doctor.
Speaker 23: The doctor asked Elwood, who'd you punch in the mouth
Speaker 23: to get that? He said, no, I didn't. May I continue.
Speaker 23: The necklace was found in his possession, and the killer
Speaker 23: took the necklace before anyone arrived at the scene of
Speaker 23: the crime. Elwood, of course, had an extensive previous criminal
Speaker 23: record of burglary and of assault on a police officer
Speaker 23: and beat his wife. He spent years in prison. If
Speaker 23: the case is dismissed, with prejudice. Can he face punishment
Speaker 23: for this now?
Speaker 2: Zero?
Speaker 23: Ever, never, She could have dismissed it without prejudice, just
Speaker 23: had the word out without prejudice, so if something develops
Speaker 23: in the future could be retried.
Speaker 1: She did it in a way that kept clear any
Speaker 1: other trial.
Speaker 23: And also Gary jeff because the county prosecutor admitted liability
Speaker 23: in this case by blaming Joe Deaters and Mark Petemeyer
Speaker 23: because they cheated. Because of that, when the multi billion
Speaker 23: dollar lawsuit comes, the county prosecutors admitted liability.
Speaker 1: The only issue is damages, so you'll be paying. Well,
Speaker 1: I don't live in Hamilton County. Will you pay sales
Speaker 1: tax somewhere? Don't you? I tend to shop in northern Kentucky.
Speaker 23: But the point of the matter is a profound injustice
Speaker 23: took place here, and now that the corner.
Speaker 1: That injustice is going to be passed on to the
Speaker 1: taxpayers of Hamilton County and anybody who.
Speaker 23: Remember Countie Pilly said, exhaustively, I looked at all the records,
Speaker 23: but never called the coroner to ask about the hepatitis
Speaker 23: B test.
Speaker 1: Never called exhaustively looked at all the records. My goodness,
Speaker 1: what a mess. It is, and we're going to pay
Speaker 1: for it. Two twenty six Bill Cunningham Show, Thank you, Willie,
Speaker 1: Thank you to doctor Samarco.
Speaker 2: Stuge report coming up.
Speaker 17: Just moments ago, I dismissed the case against Elwood Jones.
Speaker 17: This is the result of a month's long intensive review.
Speaker 17: We did take a deep dive and it took us
Speaker 17: months to get through this. This case is thirty years old,
Speaker 17: that's had multiple appeals, lots of evidence.
Speaker 1: Hello, Piet and I'm broadcasting. Talk to me about a
Speaker 1: deep dive. The Conye Pillage, sorry, the deep diving prosecutor,
Speaker 1: Countie Pillage.
Speaker 16: The only human being in the world in radio that
Speaker 16: is a guest on your own will Willie.
Speaker 2: Do you think it'd be offensive to call her a
Speaker 2: deep diver.
Speaker 23: I'm not talking about any sexual predilections except the segments.
Speaker 23: But the fact of matter, fact of the matter is
Speaker 23: a deep dive. I mean, Gary, Jeff, You're like, try
Speaker 23: to be a normal person. Yeah, it's a deep dive.
Speaker 23: Including talking to the coroner's office about the autopsy report.
Speaker 1: Well, when you're talking about anything regarding medical evidence, maybe
Speaker 1: it would be.
Speaker 23: Just maybe just take a look to make sure she
Speaker 23: had Titus Bee when she didn't.
Speaker 1: I don't want to bring that up.
Speaker 23: But we took a deep dive exhaustively for many months, looking.
Speaker 1: At everything except exhaustive. I can't catch my breath, but
Speaker 1: we cannot.
Speaker 23: We cannot now say conclusively she did not have hepatitis Bee.
Speaker 23: A deep dive would have included talking to Mark Pete
Speaker 23: Meyer who tried the case, Seth Tiger, who tried the case,
Speaker 23: Joe Deemers who tried the case, and the Corners records.
Speaker 1: Would that be a deep dive? That would be a
Speaker 1: deep dog? Did that happen?
Speaker 13: No?
Speaker 1: Give me some sports? Will he the student borders of
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Speaker 16: At air conditioning dealers tampstar quality you can feel in
Speaker 16: Cincinnati called Sheldon Braun, call it broad heating at five one, three,
Speaker 16: three eight, five seventy seven sixty five. I gotta go
Speaker 16: see Rob Sanders Bengals update brought to you my good Spirits,
Speaker 16: winding tobacco and party ten.
Speaker 2: Thank you Rock.
Speaker 1: He's taken over.
Speaker 23: After all, what happens in Covington is not exactly the
Speaker 23: same crapic is on in Cincinnati. Would you agree? Across
Speaker 23: the river across the river. Rob you, we need you,
Speaker 23: We need you. How about Richard K. Jones and Rob
Speaker 23: Sanders marching together?
Speaker 8: Roll it?
Speaker 1: Who are going to get to the north and the south?
Speaker 1: If we if we got a new sheriff and we
Speaker 1: got a new prosecutor, who are we going to get
Speaker 1: to Replacediji?
Speaker 23: We don't know yet because we have to pay her
Speaker 23: five million dollars first to find out. I might I
Speaker 23: might be Adam Henny, the guy who filed false criminal
Speaker 23: charges against Alex Stravinsky.
Speaker 1: But I'm speaking out of turn. How much are we
Speaker 1: going to have to pay because of Connie Pillage's due
Speaker 1: diligence on our deep dive? Will he how much is
Speaker 1: thirty years on death row work? How much is that worth? Millions?
Speaker 23: And the prosecutors now admitted liability a million a year,
Speaker 23: say say thirty million base. The lawyers are wanting up
Speaker 23: to represent him in the case, and maybe the county
Speaker 23: commissioners need to write another big check.
Speaker 1: And he's front, he's free to punch more people in
Speaker 1: the mouth. That's like the protesters, right.
Speaker 23: You get paid to protest, not incoming? Did you get
Speaker 23: the crap beat out of you?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 16: Bengals line, Willie Tonight get more on the big win
Speaker 16: yesterday six oh five here on seven hundred WLW Tonight.
Speaker 16: Joe Burrow nominated for the FedEx Air and Ground Players
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Speaker 16: and college basketball Arizona Michigan, Iowa State one two three this.
Speaker 1: Week in the ap pole.
Speaker 16: What about uc uh they well, they almost came back
Speaker 16: yesterday from being twenty seven down.
Speaker 1: Didn't they blow it? But they they were down thirty
Speaker 1: to eleven.
Speaker 2: At one point.
Speaker 1: It means that they're not in the top twenty five,
Speaker 1: right in the bottom, not at seven and five.
Speaker 2: What about the Musketeers? You wearing your ex today, Willie?
Speaker 1: What about the undefeated?
Speaker 10: Tight?
Speaker 23: Unscored on looked a little bit bad against the Birds.
Speaker 23: The Blue Jays not good. But how about the Hoyas
Speaker 23: beat them in Washington, d C.
Speaker 2: The Hoyas are in trouble.
Speaker 16: They're they're head coaches and Cooley got a three game
Speaker 16: suspension for throwing that water bottle in the hit Up, Baby,
Speaker 16: Hit Up Baby.
Speaker 23: Jen Dieers was a witness to that, by the way,
Speaker 23: was sitting next to the Is that right he saw
Speaker 23: the bottle fly over his head and hit a baby
Speaker 23: in the mouth.
Speaker 1: Well, at least they weren't throwing other things at the
Speaker 1: Xavier game. We don't talk about that anymore. Guys.
Speaker 23: I gotta go see Rob Sanders about maybe taking over
Speaker 23: Hamilton County.
Speaker 2: A bloodless coup in the prosecutors.
Speaker 1: I'll leave you. We have too many commercials. Have you
Speaker 1: noticed that I have? See it's your fault, Willie. I
Speaker 1: don't want to be on for two weeks. You're so
Speaker 1: darned popular. I know people want to stend. People don't
Speaker 1: want to hear you. What about what about Connie Pillage?
Speaker 1: Where's your Connie Pillage now? Segment?
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 11: I guess at some point the foolishness has got to stop.
Speaker 1: I gotta go. All right, see you, will Thanks for
Speaker 1: helping me do your show. I appreciate that.
Speaker 2: You know what.
Speaker 1: On the Saturday Morning Show, when I'm on vacation, a
Speaker 1: couple of times in five years I've taken off, I
Speaker 1: wind up calling in and yeah, call in co host
Speaker 1: with Steve Hawkins, say, man, please, that's it. That's all
Speaker 1: you got?
Speaker 2: All I got?
Speaker 1: Well, I don't have anything else either, and I've got
Speaker 1: to fill about five six minutes.
Speaker 16: Gary Jeff, in honor of a beautiful day here in
Speaker 16: the tri State and Willie on his own show, we
Speaker 16: leave you, and happy birthday to you and the pro
Speaker 16: thank you so much. We leave you with the immortal
Speaker 16: words of the Stewod Report always stood.
Speaker 8: To be with you. Bill, See you later, Governor.
Speaker 2: That was close.
Speaker 1: Hey, how about that spread of food from Dorothy Lane Market,
Speaker 1: Delicious delicious on Mason Montgomery Road.
Speaker 2: Get something.
Speaker 1: I'm taking a little bit of that to that ham home.
Speaker 1: My wife doesn't eat ham, but I do. Oh wait,
Speaker 1: speaking of my wife, say hi to my wife before
Speaker 1: you go seg it's christ to two point oh Christ.
Speaker 1: How you doing, Mary? Christmas?
Speaker 15: To you?
Speaker 1: Merry Christmas? Sweet doing, okay, doing all right?
Speaker 8: Harry Christmas to you.
Speaker 2: Same to you, ma'am. Can you give her a segment
Speaker 2: a second clause? Ho ho ho one time.
Speaker 16: Wonderful there you go, see you, Gary Jeff, Merry Christmas
Speaker 16: to you.
Speaker 1: The last time she heard hope from somebody, she slapped
Speaker 1: him in the face. You're lucky you're not within the
Speaker 1: shouting rings there. Striking distance, striking distance, that's it. Thank you, so, baby,
Speaker 1: what's up?
Speaker 3: I just want to say happy birthday to you and
Speaker 3: the professor.
Speaker 1: Well, Jim is gone, but I know that he heard
Speaker 1: you in spirit. Yeah. It was a phenomenal day, baby,
Speaker 1: and I I can't think all all of the people
Speaker 1: enough who came by to share it with me. And
Speaker 1: I know you probably heard some of that on the
Speaker 1: air while you were out, while you're out door dashing
Speaker 1: or whatever you were doing. Is anybody is anybody ordering
Speaker 1: food delivered today on the twenty second of December?
Speaker 3: Not really?
Speaker 2: Oh? Okay, so it was a waste of gas and time.
Speaker 3: Yeah, basically sorry.
Speaker 2: Thank you so much, my love. I will see you soon.
Speaker 1: I've got all kinds.
Speaker 2: Yeah, go ahead.
Speaker 3: I want to say Merry Christmas to everybody.
Speaker 1: Well, Merry Christmas to you, sweetheart. And I did you
Speaker 1: hear me talk to mom and dad earlier?
Speaker 18: No?
Speaker 9: I did not.
Speaker 2: Ah.
Speaker 1: We'll have to check the podcast, Dave, make sure there's
Speaker 1: a podcast of me and my parents from our number
Speaker 1: one Baby. I'll see you when I get home. Okay,
Speaker 1: all right, fantastic Chris to two point oh wishing her
Speaker 1: hubby Mary. She got me a hat for my birthday,
Speaker 1: and I love it. It's a limit edition vintage Age
Speaker 1: to Perfection nineteen sixty is what it says. And it
Speaker 1: is now my most prized possession because my baby, or
Speaker 1: as Willy says, my baby doll, gave it to me.
Speaker 1: And I just want to say that this experience of
Speaker 1: working here in Cincinnati. I'm sixty five, technically a little
Speaker 1: older if you count the time in the womb, but
Speaker 1: for almost half of my life I have been on
Speaker 1: the air on the radio in Cincinnati. Moved here in
Speaker 1: nineteen ninety four, was on ninety two point five the Fox,
Speaker 1: which was then owned by what became this company, and
Speaker 1: I started here at WLW in February of nineteen ninety
Speaker 1: seven doing the Saturday morning edition. It has evolved, as
Speaker 1: we all do through the years, but through that show specifically,
Speaker 1: I have made so many great friendships and developed so
Speaker 1: many wonderful relationships with a lot of people that were
Speaker 1: in this room today earlier, from Doug Bonnson and the gang,
Speaker 1: from Ripley at Brookies, to Dick from Dayton who calls
Speaker 1: Everybody's Show, to the lovely lady Lynette. The first time
Speaker 1: I heard Lynette, I was driving into work on a
Speaker 1: Saturday morning, and she was on the Old Truck and
Speaker 1: Bozo Show bugging Steve Summers about something, and then she
Speaker 1: started calling me Dave from Harrison And as he said earlier,
Speaker 1: there are no bad dad jokes old radio. Rick Washburn,
Speaker 1: who made a cameo earlier today, thank you for all
Speaker 1: the years of fun and reception reports. Steve from Etna,
Speaker 1: Ohio with great commentaries. He does these thoughtful commentaries every
Speaker 1: single Saturday morning about six forty six forty five. He's
Speaker 1: like a modern day Paul Harvey with his knowledge of
Speaker 1: history and the research he does just for this radio show.
Speaker 1: He does it for free. Steve Shulty, the environmental engineer science.
Speaker 1: Might that Teresa a more recent participant, brother Rick Green,
Speaker 1: who brings us a Bible verse which may be the
Speaker 1: only truth you ever get on Saturday morning on this station.
Speaker 1: Moe Egger, who is just I think the most superior
Speaker 1: burgeoning sports voice in Cincinnati these days.
Speaker 2: No offense, seg.
Speaker 1: And everybody else who's been a part of that show,
Speaker 1: which is my baby, and God willing, I'm planning on
Speaker 1: being back here for it this coming Saturday morning. But
Speaker 1: it's been a blessing. It's an humble opportunity, and as
Speaker 1: I mentioned earlier, my retirement plan is death. I will
Speaker 1: continue to be here as long as they will let
Speaker 1: me be here, as long as you will let me
Speaker 1: be here. And I'll be back tomorrow night at nine
Speaker 1: for the last nightcap before Christmas. And I'll also be
Speaker 1: with you with a special Christmas Eve show on Wednesday
Speaker 1: night from nine to twelve. A lot of music, a
Speaker 1: lot of my favorites and a lot of my friend's favorites.
Speaker 1: One of Willie's favorites will be featured as well. Have
Speaker 1: a fantastic rest of the day, and we'll talk to
Speaker 1: you tomorrow night at nine here on seven hundred WLW.