1 00:00:00,360 --> 00:00:06,080 Speaker 1: Pike since he three sixty about Cincinnati from Cincinnati Sponsorman 2 00:00:06,160 --> 00:00:10,640 Speaker 1: Park by Cincy Shirts, Cincy Shirts all sincey all day. 3 00:00:11,160 --> 00:00:15,480 Speaker 1: This is ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station. 4 00:00:17,120 --> 00:00:19,520 Speaker 2: Welcome back sincey three sixty. 5 00:00:19,560 --> 00:00:23,320 Speaker 3: Here we go our number two, ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati 6 00:00:23,400 --> 00:00:24,000 Speaker 3: Sports Station. 7 00:00:24,920 --> 00:00:25,520 Speaker 2: You know Austin. 8 00:00:25,600 --> 00:00:29,639 Speaker 3: Yesterday Joe Daneman was on the show and Joe told 9 00:00:29,720 --> 00:00:31,639 Speaker 3: us next time we have a chance to talk to 10 00:00:31,720 --> 00:00:34,080 Speaker 3: Richard Skinner, Yeah, to ask him about some of the 11 00:00:34,120 --> 00:00:36,120 Speaker 3: basketball games and the runs they used to have. This 12 00:00:36,240 --> 00:00:40,080 Speaker 3: is true, and now we're joined by Richard Skinner from 13 00:00:40,120 --> 00:00:41,960 Speaker 3: Local twelve. Skenny, what's going on? 14 00:00:43,479 --> 00:00:44,120 Speaker 2: That's going well? 15 00:00:44,159 --> 00:00:44,800 Speaker 4: How's it going with you? 16 00:00:44,840 --> 00:00:47,559 Speaker 3: Fellas Skinny did? Did Daniman used to get some buckets? 17 00:00:47,720 --> 00:00:49,960 Speaker 3: Do you guys used to have some media basketball leagues 18 00:00:50,000 --> 00:00:50,279 Speaker 3: going on? 19 00:00:51,479 --> 00:00:53,560 Speaker 4: We do. We used to play pickup ball I can't remember, 20 00:00:53,600 --> 00:00:56,040 Speaker 4: Wednesday or Thursday every week out of Mount Saint Joe 21 00:00:56,400 --> 00:00:58,080 Speaker 4: and it was a good run. We actually had enough 22 00:00:58,080 --> 00:01:00,680 Speaker 4: guys to get two quotes going up on Yeah Joe 23 00:01:00,760 --> 00:01:04,319 Speaker 4: joking joke and ball, and so too could his cohort 24 00:01:04,360 --> 00:01:06,319 Speaker 4: at the time, which was Zach Well. Zach Wellston Ball 25 00:01:06,319 --> 00:01:08,039 Speaker 4: a little bit. His son is playing for Highland High 26 00:01:08,040 --> 00:01:10,240 Speaker 4: School right now. He's a junior. So yeah, those guys 27 00:01:10,240 --> 00:01:12,160 Speaker 4: could ball a little bit. Bradjoe Hanson a little bit. 28 00:01:12,200 --> 00:01:16,000 Speaker 3: You have good players, are good chemistry when you played well, 29 00:01:16,040 --> 00:01:16,840 Speaker 3: the problem. 30 00:01:16,520 --> 00:01:19,440 Speaker 4: Is you had different players. Oh NOI you had no 31 00:01:19,520 --> 00:01:21,039 Speaker 4: time to build chemistry. 32 00:01:21,240 --> 00:01:23,920 Speaker 5: I mean you sound like you weren't all that impressed 33 00:01:23,959 --> 00:01:25,880 Speaker 5: by Daniman though. I mean he was kind of hyping 34 00:01:25,920 --> 00:01:28,200 Speaker 5: it up like he was the best guy on the floor. 35 00:01:28,720 --> 00:01:30,440 Speaker 2: Was that? I mean, give us a real scoop? 36 00:01:31,080 --> 00:01:33,800 Speaker 4: Okay, Joe Joe was Joe is Joe was? This is 37 00:01:33,800 --> 00:01:36,640 Speaker 4: We're going back probably ten fifteen years. So Joe was 38 00:01:36,680 --> 00:01:40,400 Speaker 4: in great shape. Joe Joe was quick with the ball. Joke, No, 39 00:01:40,480 --> 00:01:40,959 Speaker 4: Joe was good. 40 00:01:41,000 --> 00:01:43,520 Speaker 5: He was Was he a slasher? Was he a shooter? 41 00:01:43,840 --> 00:01:46,160 Speaker 5: He turned around jumper like what did he have? What 42 00:01:46,319 --> 00:01:47,000 Speaker 5: was in his bag? 43 00:01:47,240 --> 00:01:53,560 Speaker 2: He was very ball dominant, skinny. 44 00:01:53,600 --> 00:01:56,440 Speaker 3: Since the Bengals I want to get into obviously Bengals offseason, 45 00:01:56,480 --> 00:01:58,240 Speaker 3: but since the season has wrapped up, what have you 46 00:01:58,280 --> 00:01:59,559 Speaker 3: been doing with with your time? 47 00:02:01,200 --> 00:02:03,920 Speaker 4: Coaches of basketball to Beechwood High School trying to come 48 00:02:03,960 --> 00:02:05,840 Speaker 4: up with a couple of columns a week I did 49 00:02:05,840 --> 00:02:08,920 Speaker 4: a Red column last week. I've done a couple of 50 00:02:08,919 --> 00:02:12,080 Speaker 4: Bengals columns poking again at the bear of the front 51 00:02:12,120 --> 00:02:14,960 Speaker 4: office and making sure they get something done this offseason. 52 00:02:15,360 --> 00:02:17,200 Speaker 4: I'm actually finishing up looking back at some of my 53 00:02:17,280 --> 00:02:20,160 Speaker 4: awful predictions from the when the season started, like a 54 00:02:20,320 --> 00:02:23,040 Speaker 4: Bengals predictions such as this gem of one you love 55 00:02:23,639 --> 00:02:27,320 Speaker 4: defensive breakout player, defensive end Shamar Stewart, that didn't, didn't, 56 00:02:27,720 --> 00:02:29,760 Speaker 4: that didn't didn't so well? 57 00:02:29,840 --> 00:02:32,880 Speaker 2: Did you have any any that that circled around Geno Stone? 58 00:02:34,600 --> 00:02:36,680 Speaker 4: Non times? Did? That would have been my why are 59 00:02:36,680 --> 00:02:37,720 Speaker 4: you bringing him back? Player? 60 00:02:37,880 --> 00:02:41,400 Speaker 2: Okay, that's good. Have you spent any time recently you have? 61 00:02:41,480 --> 00:02:44,800 Speaker 3: You got to take in the Kentucky Wildcats and your 62 00:02:44,800 --> 00:02:47,400 Speaker 3: thoughts on on what they have going right now, because 63 00:02:47,440 --> 00:02:49,160 Speaker 3: they might have had the worst play in basketball of 64 00:02:49,200 --> 00:02:51,000 Speaker 3: the year last night on the inbounds play. 65 00:02:51,400 --> 00:02:53,240 Speaker 2: What's going on with Mark Pope's two squad? 66 00:02:54,400 --> 00:02:56,080 Speaker 4: Well, it felt like they kind of turned the corner 67 00:02:56,080 --> 00:02:57,560 Speaker 4: with a little luck right the wind down at l 68 00:02:57,639 --> 00:03:00,920 Speaker 4: s U on that full court of even Malecki Morenos shot, 69 00:03:01,000 --> 00:03:03,280 Speaker 4: then coming from way behind at Tennessee to win there, 70 00:03:03,320 --> 00:03:05,440 Speaker 4: getting a couple of home wins and you take a 71 00:03:05,480 --> 00:03:07,639 Speaker 4: five game winning strigg in the van and Vandy's really good. 72 00:03:07,639 --> 00:03:09,560 Speaker 4: But they've kind of taken it on the chin of ley. 73 00:03:09,560 --> 00:03:11,600 Speaker 4: I think they lost three or four coming into last night, 74 00:03:11,960 --> 00:03:14,160 Speaker 4: and you settled into what I thought was gonna be 75 00:03:14,200 --> 00:03:16,840 Speaker 4: a good game. Instead they they played with no energy, 76 00:03:16,880 --> 00:03:19,520 Speaker 4: They play with no effort, They don't play with much purpose. 77 00:03:21,000 --> 00:03:23,440 Speaker 4: Too many guys going holes on offense, and you don't 78 00:03:23,440 --> 00:03:25,520 Speaker 4: know where the big bucket's coming from when that happens. 79 00:03:25,919 --> 00:03:27,800 Speaker 4: I could take it as a one off, because it 80 00:03:27,840 --> 00:03:30,400 Speaker 4: felt like it at ten and six and down to 81 00:03:30,520 --> 00:03:33,280 Speaker 4: LSU before that last second pass, their season was done. 82 00:03:33,560 --> 00:03:35,760 Speaker 4: And now you look if you go to bracketmatrix dot com, 83 00:03:35,760 --> 00:03:37,320 Speaker 4: they've kind of played their way all the way up 84 00:03:37,320 --> 00:03:39,560 Speaker 4: to around the seven seed line. I know a lot 85 00:03:39,560 --> 00:03:40,800 Speaker 4: of people up the last night that they're going to 86 00:03:40,840 --> 00:03:42,920 Speaker 4: be out. They may still play their way out. It's 87 00:03:42,960 --> 00:03:46,480 Speaker 4: really possible in the league, but we'll see. He's bounced 88 00:03:46,520 --> 00:03:48,640 Speaker 4: them back before. Maybe that was just more luck than 89 00:03:48,640 --> 00:03:51,200 Speaker 4: anything else. But they've they've got the fishing season. They 90 00:03:51,240 --> 00:03:53,240 Speaker 4: got a lot of deficiencies, especially now with the injuries 91 00:03:53,240 --> 00:03:56,880 Speaker 4: have hit. Cam Williams is out, Dalen Lowe's out, Jayden 92 00:03:56,960 --> 00:03:59,440 Speaker 4: Quinton's out. I mean, those are three guys that, arguably 93 00:03:59,520 --> 00:04:01,400 Speaker 4: with they certain be in your rotation, and probably two 94 00:04:01,400 --> 00:04:02,760 Speaker 4: of the three would be starters. And I think that 95 00:04:02,840 --> 00:04:03,840 Speaker 4: sort of take a toll too. 96 00:04:04,720 --> 00:04:08,080 Speaker 3: I'm interested in your opinion here. We've seen the coaching cycle, 97 00:04:08,480 --> 00:04:10,120 Speaker 3: and I want to get to the Bengals in just 98 00:04:10,160 --> 00:04:12,920 Speaker 3: a second, but what we've seen in the AFC North, 99 00:04:13,160 --> 00:04:16,040 Speaker 3: Jesse Mintter is now a Baltimore Raven, Mike McCarthy is 100 00:04:16,040 --> 00:04:19,040 Speaker 3: now the Pittsburgh Steelers head coach, and just today Todd 101 00:04:19,120 --> 00:04:21,720 Speaker 3: Munkin becomes the coach of the Browns. And by all reports, 102 00:04:22,720 --> 00:04:25,279 Speaker 3: Jim Schwartz is furious. He said as goodbyes. He said 103 00:04:25,279 --> 00:04:27,120 Speaker 3: he's done, he said he's out. He's obvious he's still 104 00:04:27,160 --> 00:04:29,800 Speaker 3: in the contract. But what do you make of just 105 00:04:29,839 --> 00:04:33,239 Speaker 3: the AFC North as it pertains to these coaching highers 106 00:04:33,279 --> 00:04:33,520 Speaker 3: that have. 107 00:04:33,480 --> 00:04:36,880 Speaker 4: Happened well, Jesse Minner hasertainly been a hot name for 108 00:04:36,920 --> 00:04:39,279 Speaker 4: a while, so I'm interested to see what that looks like. 109 00:04:40,120 --> 00:04:42,040 Speaker 4: You know, Mike McDonald got his first head coaching jab 110 00:04:42,080 --> 00:04:44,799 Speaker 4: the Formal Cordator in Baltimore with Seattle, and it's gone 111 00:04:45,200 --> 00:04:48,200 Speaker 4: extraordinarily well right in two years he barely missed playoffs. 112 00:04:48,240 --> 00:04:50,560 Speaker 4: Last year, they're the super Bowl this year. You know, 113 00:04:50,600 --> 00:04:52,239 Speaker 4: a lot of people think a lot of Jesse Minner, 114 00:04:52,360 --> 00:04:54,240 Speaker 4: but Munkin was an interesting one. Man. It feels like 115 00:04:54,279 --> 00:04:56,240 Speaker 4: they just kind of kept throwing stuff against the wall 116 00:04:56,279 --> 00:04:59,320 Speaker 4: and decided Todd Munkin is where it's splattered at and okay, 117 00:05:00,360 --> 00:05:04,200 Speaker 4: and McCarthy was the most flabbergasting one to me, to 118 00:05:04,200 --> 00:05:07,880 Speaker 4: be honest with you, whether Aaron Rodgers comes back or not, 119 00:05:07,920 --> 00:05:09,320 Speaker 4: it's not going to make any difference. I mean, Aaron 120 00:05:09,360 --> 00:05:13,240 Speaker 4: Rodgers passed his prime. We've seen that already. We saw 121 00:05:13,320 --> 00:05:17,000 Speaker 4: him have success in ways in Dallas with Dak Prescott, 122 00:05:17,000 --> 00:05:20,440 Speaker 4: but not enough playoff success, and you're thinking he's gonna 123 00:05:20,440 --> 00:05:21,760 Speaker 4: be the one to resurrect. You know. The one thing 124 00:05:21,760 --> 00:05:23,159 Speaker 4: I will say this, I think you guys agree with this, 125 00:05:23,680 --> 00:05:25,279 Speaker 4: whether you like the way the Steelers do things or not. 126 00:05:25,480 --> 00:05:27,600 Speaker 4: They've had three head coaches since nineteen sixty nine, and 127 00:05:27,640 --> 00:05:30,640 Speaker 4: each one of Super Bowl Chuck Noll, Bill Kawer, and 128 00:05:30,720 --> 00:05:32,720 Speaker 4: Mike Tomlins. So you got to just kind of tip 129 00:05:32,720 --> 00:05:35,040 Speaker 4: your cab and go, Okay, they feel like they know 130 00:05:35,080 --> 00:05:38,120 Speaker 4: what they're doing. But this just feels like a weird one. 131 00:05:38,920 --> 00:05:40,479 Speaker 4: You know, maybe they think they can squeeze fro juice 132 00:05:40,480 --> 00:05:42,799 Speaker 4: out of McCarthy and and you know the Super Bowl 133 00:05:42,800 --> 00:05:44,880 Speaker 4: magic from him will wear on them. I just I 134 00:05:44,880 --> 00:05:47,000 Speaker 4: don't know about that. Minerder Me is the most interesting 135 00:05:47,000 --> 00:05:49,440 Speaker 4: one because I think he takes over clearly the best 136 00:05:49,520 --> 00:05:51,440 Speaker 4: roster of any of those three teams, and they have 137 00:05:51,480 --> 00:05:52,640 Speaker 4: a chance to have a quick bounce back. 138 00:05:52,680 --> 00:05:54,840 Speaker 2: To be honest, it obviously raises the question. 139 00:05:54,880 --> 00:05:59,160 Speaker 3: Then here in Cincinnati, where continuity has been the key word, right, 140 00:05:59,200 --> 00:06:02,040 Speaker 3: there was a thought made. Maybe Dan Pitcher gets plucked 141 00:06:02,040 --> 00:06:04,960 Speaker 3: somewhere else, maybe Brian Callahan finds his way back. But 142 00:06:05,000 --> 00:06:08,800 Speaker 3: for the most part, it's continuity. It's no changes with 143 00:06:08,960 --> 00:06:11,080 Speaker 3: Duke Tobin. As Duke Tobin said, it's no changes in 144 00:06:11,120 --> 00:06:14,800 Speaker 3: the scouting department, no changes in the coaching staff. If 145 00:06:14,800 --> 00:06:18,000 Speaker 3: that's the case, can you win here with continuity? In 146 00:06:18,040 --> 00:06:20,640 Speaker 3: your opinion, they're they're better. 147 00:06:20,720 --> 00:06:22,920 Speaker 4: I mean you literally rolled the dice to say we 148 00:06:23,480 --> 00:06:25,120 Speaker 4: think continuity is what's going to get us back on 149 00:06:25,160 --> 00:06:27,120 Speaker 4: track at twenty twenty six, and I don't think you 150 00:06:27,160 --> 00:06:29,400 Speaker 4: get another chance at that. To be honest with you, Okay, 151 00:06:29,440 --> 00:06:32,720 Speaker 4: you've decided Continuities is putting all the eggs in that basket. Okay, 152 00:06:32,839 --> 00:06:34,920 Speaker 4: let's see what that looks like. And it may be fine. 153 00:06:34,960 --> 00:06:38,080 Speaker 4: I mean, you know, you're not looking at major overhaul 154 00:06:38,120 --> 00:06:39,440 Speaker 4: on one side of the ball. You're looking at major 155 00:06:39,480 --> 00:06:40,839 Speaker 4: overhall the other side of the ball. But you've got 156 00:06:40,880 --> 00:06:42,280 Speaker 4: a chance to get this right. And you get a 157 00:06:42,320 --> 00:06:44,440 Speaker 4: chance to get this right in one offseason. But you 158 00:06:44,600 --> 00:06:47,080 Speaker 4: better get it right. You know, I think to start 159 00:06:47,160 --> 00:06:49,400 Speaker 4: kiro Colum what it was last week or week before, 160 00:06:49,760 --> 00:06:51,680 Speaker 4: just to start contrast to what you're talking about. You know, 161 00:06:51,720 --> 00:06:54,560 Speaker 4: Buffalo decides to move on from from Sean McDermott and 162 00:06:54,920 --> 00:06:57,000 Speaker 4: Baltimore moves on from John Hardball, and I'm not here 163 00:06:57,040 --> 00:06:58,479 Speaker 4: to tell you they need to move on from from 164 00:06:58,640 --> 00:07:01,320 Speaker 4: Zach Taylor per se, but something needed to be in 165 00:07:01,760 --> 00:07:03,880 Speaker 4: I mean, my goodness, look what Sean Payton just did. 166 00:07:03,880 --> 00:07:06,120 Speaker 4: Do enough and sid coordinator because they play one bad 167 00:07:06,160 --> 00:07:08,480 Speaker 4: game in the snow with a backup quarterback. For goodness sake, 168 00:07:08,720 --> 00:07:10,440 Speaker 4: he said, yes, it's enough, but one bad game the snow, 169 00:07:10,440 --> 00:07:12,240 Speaker 4: that's your quote, even though I'm the one that decided 170 00:07:12,240 --> 00:07:14,840 Speaker 4: to not kick a field goal. But it gets you saw, 171 00:07:14,920 --> 00:07:17,600 Speaker 4: you saw her, and this is Sean McVay fired his 172 00:07:17,600 --> 00:07:19,720 Speaker 4: his special teams coach during the season. Now, other special 173 00:07:19,760 --> 00:07:22,280 Speaker 4: teams didn't get any better, and a fumble plunt didn't 174 00:07:22,320 --> 00:07:26,000 Speaker 4: help them on Sunday. But I think you see some 175 00:07:26,120 --> 00:07:28,360 Speaker 4: urgency with with other teams and it's just not this 176 00:07:28,640 --> 00:07:31,760 Speaker 4: organization's mo o. And I get sometimes you don't need 177 00:07:31,800 --> 00:07:34,240 Speaker 4: to make a change just for change sake and just 178 00:07:34,280 --> 00:07:36,360 Speaker 4: because we're all beating the drum going make a change, 179 00:07:36,400 --> 00:07:38,360 Speaker 4: make a change, may change, But I think the life 180 00:07:38,360 --> 00:07:39,800 Speaker 4: time is on with you. I mean I think it 181 00:07:39,840 --> 00:07:42,640 Speaker 4: was right after Duke or closely after Duke. I mean, 182 00:07:42,840 --> 00:07:44,840 Speaker 4: you've got to playoffs two times in ten years with 183 00:07:44,840 --> 00:07:47,440 Speaker 4: with with Duke Cobin in that front office running things 184 00:07:47,080 --> 00:07:49,120 Speaker 4: that that that's enough for me to say, after missing 185 00:07:49,120 --> 00:07:51,920 Speaker 4: three straight years, it's time for somebody else to take 186 00:07:51,960 --> 00:07:54,280 Speaker 4: to take a swing at it. So yeah, I mean, listen, 187 00:07:54,360 --> 00:07:56,520 Speaker 4: there's nothing we can do about it now, right, they're going, 188 00:07:56,520 --> 00:07:59,560 Speaker 4: they're all coming back. They're all coming back intact. And now, 189 00:07:59,600 --> 00:08:01,000 Speaker 4: if you're a bad Angles fan, you root for them 190 00:08:01,000 --> 00:08:02,560 Speaker 4: to get it right, but they better get it right 191 00:08:02,560 --> 00:08:04,520 Speaker 4: because there's no more. Yeah, we think, you know, we 192 00:08:04,760 --> 00:08:07,560 Speaker 4: we we're losing one score games where this close. No, 193 00:08:07,640 --> 00:08:11,080 Speaker 4: you're not, You're not. You need better players on defense, 194 00:08:11,360 --> 00:08:13,080 Speaker 4: and you need to do it right this offseason. 195 00:08:13,920 --> 00:08:16,560 Speaker 5: You mentioned Duke Tobin, and I know Jeff Hobson had 196 00:08:16,640 --> 00:08:19,760 Speaker 5: kind of written recently about how they have made some 197 00:08:19,800 --> 00:08:22,160 Speaker 5: slight changes to the scouting department. 198 00:08:22,520 --> 00:08:24,280 Speaker 2: Did we learn anything from that? 199 00:08:24,360 --> 00:08:26,880 Speaker 5: Do you expect there to be anything different about their 200 00:08:26,960 --> 00:08:29,160 Speaker 5: process now that they've added a name or two and 201 00:08:29,240 --> 00:08:32,800 Speaker 5: maybe added some new technology. Do we know anything about 202 00:08:32,800 --> 00:08:35,760 Speaker 5: that that maybe could lead to them figuring out that 203 00:08:35,920 --> 00:08:38,199 Speaker 5: side of things as opposed to the coaching side of things, 204 00:08:39,160 --> 00:08:39,760 Speaker 5: you would hope. 205 00:08:39,800 --> 00:08:41,960 Speaker 4: So. I mean, although Duke has said we have all 206 00:08:42,000 --> 00:08:44,160 Speaker 4: the information we need. Remember he said that we've got 207 00:08:44,200 --> 00:08:48,200 Speaker 4: all the information we need. Okay, it'd be nice to 208 00:08:48,200 --> 00:08:52,320 Speaker 4: have even more information information overload or or ought to 209 00:08:52,360 --> 00:08:55,640 Speaker 4: do the whole instead of traits, Let's look at more production. 210 00:08:55,840 --> 00:08:58,760 Speaker 4: Maybe production is a better way to go than traits. 211 00:08:59,320 --> 00:09:01,120 Speaker 4: Not at every this year, and maybe not with every guy, 212 00:09:01,240 --> 00:09:03,000 Speaker 4: not whether they maybe every slot in the draft. I mean, 213 00:09:03,040 --> 00:09:04,960 Speaker 4: you want to take a flyer on a fourth round, kid, great, 214 00:09:05,000 --> 00:09:07,040 Speaker 4: take a flyer, but you can't do that in first 215 00:09:07,040 --> 00:09:09,880 Speaker 4: and second round guys. You can't hope Jackson Carmon becomes 216 00:09:09,880 --> 00:09:11,920 Speaker 4: something he's not, which is a guy who cares about football. 217 00:09:12,320 --> 00:09:15,240 Speaker 4: You can't pope Shamar Stewart, who didn't make tackles in 218 00:09:15,280 --> 00:09:17,800 Speaker 4: Saxon College, is suddenly going to do that in the NFL. 219 00:09:17,840 --> 00:09:20,280 Speaker 4: And I'm jury's still out on him that In all fairness, 220 00:09:20,880 --> 00:09:22,320 Speaker 4: you know, I know we're all excited about the jump 221 00:09:22,360 --> 00:09:25,640 Speaker 4: Miles Murphy took. Okay, was it a big jump? And 222 00:09:25,640 --> 00:09:27,560 Speaker 4: it was a jump? I mean it was you know, 223 00:09:27,559 --> 00:09:29,640 Speaker 4: if you jump from off the floor to five inches high, 224 00:09:29,679 --> 00:09:32,920 Speaker 4: did you really make a big jump. I hope that 225 00:09:33,000 --> 00:09:35,880 Speaker 4: trend continues, and he did play really well after the 226 00:09:35,920 --> 00:09:38,880 Speaker 4: bye week, So give give credit where credit is, But 227 00:09:39,800 --> 00:09:41,880 Speaker 4: you know, maybe that's the process that needs to change. 228 00:09:41,880 --> 00:09:44,280 Speaker 4: So stop taking trades over production and start looking more 229 00:09:44,320 --> 00:09:45,320 Speaker 4: at production than trades. 230 00:09:46,080 --> 00:09:48,280 Speaker 3: Are we at the point, I know so much needs 231 00:09:48,320 --> 00:09:50,040 Speaker 3: to be addressed on the defensive side of the ball. 232 00:09:50,400 --> 00:09:52,280 Speaker 3: Are we at the point where things are done with 233 00:09:52,360 --> 00:09:56,280 Speaker 3: Trey Hendrickson? Is there any avenue you see Trey Hendrickson back? 234 00:09:56,440 --> 00:09:58,480 Speaker 3: Is there an avenue you see a sign in trade 235 00:09:58,520 --> 00:10:00,680 Speaker 3: or a tag in trade? How do you view the 236 00:10:00,679 --> 00:10:03,240 Speaker 3: Trey Hendrickson situation as of today. We were just talking 237 00:10:03,240 --> 00:10:06,120 Speaker 3: on the show the top fifty to fifty free agents available. 238 00:10:06,160 --> 00:10:08,439 Speaker 3: Trey Hendrickson's number one on the list in the NFL. 239 00:10:08,960 --> 00:10:11,280 Speaker 3: Is it a foregone conclusion that you just move on 240 00:10:11,400 --> 00:10:12,280 Speaker 3: from Trey Hendrickson. 241 00:10:13,800 --> 00:10:17,040 Speaker 4: The only way did I think they would conceivably do this, 242 00:10:17,320 --> 00:10:19,160 Speaker 4: and this would be far fetched, is if he goes 243 00:10:19,200 --> 00:10:21,240 Speaker 4: out to the open market and people go, hey, man, 244 00:10:21,280 --> 00:10:23,400 Speaker 4: you're a thirty soon to be thirty two year old 245 00:10:23,400 --> 00:10:27,000 Speaker 4: defensive end coming off a surgery and coming off a 246 00:10:27,040 --> 00:10:28,960 Speaker 4: year where you had only four sacks and seven games, 247 00:10:29,120 --> 00:10:31,000 Speaker 4: and he just doesn't get the money he was expecting, 248 00:10:31,040 --> 00:10:33,160 Speaker 4: and you can get him on a one year proven deal. 249 00:10:33,200 --> 00:10:35,040 Speaker 4: I think somebody's gonna give him money out there. It 250 00:10:35,040 --> 00:10:36,600 Speaker 4: may not be what he wants, but it'll be at 251 00:10:36,679 --> 00:10:38,720 Speaker 4: least more than what the Bengals would fast with the 252 00:10:38,720 --> 00:10:41,440 Speaker 4: author offer. I also think I think there was some 253 00:10:41,440 --> 00:10:45,920 Speaker 4: Trey Hendrickson fatigue across the board with him from last year, like, okay, 254 00:10:45,960 --> 00:10:49,000 Speaker 4: you know what, it didn't work out. It didn't work 255 00:10:49,000 --> 00:10:50,400 Speaker 4: out for either side of us. We thought we could 256 00:10:50,400 --> 00:10:52,240 Speaker 4: get you back for the year, get production out of you. 257 00:10:52,160 --> 00:10:54,480 Speaker 4: You help us go to the playoffs. Instead, he gets hurt, 258 00:10:55,280 --> 00:10:58,040 Speaker 4: has surgery, and I just don't see an avenue where 259 00:10:58,080 --> 00:11:01,760 Speaker 4: you say, let's bring that guy back again. They're really reticent, 260 00:11:01,840 --> 00:11:03,680 Speaker 4: as we know as signed guys in their thirties, and 261 00:11:03,880 --> 00:11:06,120 Speaker 4: for all those that were pulam the drum of give 262 00:11:06,200 --> 00:11:08,280 Speaker 4: him the guaranteed money he wants. You need to pay him, 263 00:11:08,280 --> 00:11:10,480 Speaker 4: You need to get lock him up long term. Who 264 00:11:10,520 --> 00:11:12,080 Speaker 4: looks smart now? To be honest with you, I think 265 00:11:12,120 --> 00:11:13,240 Speaker 4: the Bengals look smart now. 266 00:11:13,520 --> 00:11:19,080 Speaker 3: Sure, I'm curious to the fact of guys on the 267 00:11:19,200 --> 00:11:23,120 Speaker 3: roster like Chase Brown and DJ Turner and even Dax 268 00:11:23,200 --> 00:11:25,280 Speaker 3: Hill to that extent. So much is being made of 269 00:11:25,840 --> 00:11:28,720 Speaker 3: free agency and the draft. Are are you Are you 270 00:11:28,760 --> 00:11:30,360 Speaker 3: trying to get ahead of things? If you're the Bengals, 271 00:11:30,400 --> 00:11:32,280 Speaker 3: Are you trying to sign some of these guys early 272 00:11:32,320 --> 00:11:35,080 Speaker 3: and get those deals done in place as well? 273 00:11:35,320 --> 00:11:37,880 Speaker 4: Yeah? I think so, especially with the guys you literally 274 00:11:37,920 --> 00:11:40,959 Speaker 4: just mentioned. I mean, I'm not a big second contract 275 00:11:41,080 --> 00:11:42,840 Speaker 4: running back guy, but I just think he does so 276 00:11:42,960 --> 00:11:46,720 Speaker 4: much for you and I still think he's continuing to evolve. 277 00:11:47,880 --> 00:11:49,679 Speaker 4: You know, I got that one right by the way 278 00:11:49,720 --> 00:11:51,480 Speaker 4: I guessed myself on the Shamar Stewart Pitt, but he 279 00:11:51,520 --> 00:11:54,120 Speaker 4: was my offensive breakout guy, and he proved that to 280 00:11:54,160 --> 00:11:57,120 Speaker 4: be correct me. He finished he finished fourth among AFC 281 00:11:57,200 --> 00:12:00,000 Speaker 4: running backs and the Martrom Scrimage despite averaging fifty yard 282 00:12:00,080 --> 00:12:02,079 Speaker 4: from scrimmage in the first six games when he took 283 00:12:02,120 --> 00:12:03,839 Speaker 4: a handoff and got tackled right away. I mean the 284 00:12:03,960 --> 00:12:05,800 Speaker 4: last he over average over one hundred yards the last 285 00:12:05,800 --> 00:12:08,520 Speaker 4: eleven games, and I think he's just gonna continue to 286 00:12:08,559 --> 00:12:09,839 Speaker 4: get better and better because I think they're going to 287 00:12:09,840 --> 00:12:11,240 Speaker 4: try to find more and more ways to get him 288 00:12:11,240 --> 00:12:13,720 Speaker 4: the football. So a guy like that is not just 289 00:12:13,800 --> 00:12:15,680 Speaker 4: a typical running back. I think he is a big 290 00:12:15,679 --> 00:12:17,280 Speaker 4: part of your offense. I think you do try to 291 00:12:17,280 --> 00:12:19,400 Speaker 4: get out in front of that and extend him. I 292 00:12:19,559 --> 00:12:22,240 Speaker 4: clearly you have to extend DJ Turner and back still. 293 00:12:22,520 --> 00:12:24,960 Speaker 4: I mean, if there's any place you're looking go, okay, 294 00:12:25,000 --> 00:12:28,160 Speaker 4: what what what are building blocks on defense? Not just 295 00:12:28,200 --> 00:12:30,520 Speaker 4: in twenty twenty six, but moving forward, you have to 296 00:12:30,520 --> 00:12:32,040 Speaker 4: point to those two guys at the moment. You hope 297 00:12:32,040 --> 00:12:34,200 Speaker 4: there are other guys that evolved into that eventually, but 298 00:12:34,320 --> 00:12:36,400 Speaker 4: right now it's those two guys and whatever drop off 299 00:12:36,400 --> 00:12:37,960 Speaker 4: from there to the next guy is is a huge 300 00:12:38,040 --> 00:12:40,360 Speaker 4: drop off. So I do think you have to look 301 00:12:40,400 --> 00:12:44,600 Speaker 4: to extend those guys. And you know those have been contentious, right, 302 00:12:44,640 --> 00:12:46,560 Speaker 4: I mean it feels like all these guys going into 303 00:12:46,559 --> 00:12:49,480 Speaker 4: that extension thing and it lingers into training camp and 304 00:12:49,520 --> 00:12:51,160 Speaker 4: then it's well, we're not going to negotiat once the 305 00:12:51,160 --> 00:12:53,839 Speaker 4: season starts, and here we are again. I just I 306 00:12:53,840 --> 00:12:55,439 Speaker 4: don't think you can run that risk. I think those 307 00:12:55,480 --> 00:12:57,640 Speaker 4: are those are a couple of guys that you have 308 00:12:57,679 --> 00:13:00,560 Speaker 4: to have to rea a couple three guys. Maybe don't 309 00:13:00,600 --> 00:13:03,600 Speaker 4: have to get part of Chase Brown so much, but 310 00:13:03,640 --> 00:13:05,360 Speaker 4: you certainly got to get in front of two cornerbacks 311 00:13:05,360 --> 00:13:05,720 Speaker 4: for sure. 312 00:13:06,120 --> 00:13:10,120 Speaker 3: I know there's a lot of players and candidates available, 313 00:13:10,160 --> 00:13:12,600 Speaker 3: but if you had the ability to make a splash 314 00:13:12,960 --> 00:13:14,920 Speaker 3: on the defensive side of the ball, not in particularly 315 00:13:14,920 --> 00:13:17,520 Speaker 3: in the player itself, but in the position group and 316 00:13:17,559 --> 00:13:19,640 Speaker 3: go get the best free agent out there or one 317 00:13:19,640 --> 00:13:21,600 Speaker 3: of the best free agents out there at their perspective 318 00:13:21,640 --> 00:13:24,440 Speaker 3: position group, which position would you look to attack? 319 00:13:24,480 --> 00:13:29,160 Speaker 4: First? Three technique tackle. I mean, somebody that can rush 320 00:13:29,160 --> 00:13:30,880 Speaker 4: the passer inside. I mean you've seen that with New 321 00:13:30,880 --> 00:13:33,640 Speaker 4: England has success doing that, Seattle has success doing that, 322 00:13:33,920 --> 00:13:36,120 Speaker 4: The Rams in their heyday had success doing that. Chris 323 00:13:36,160 --> 00:13:39,240 Speaker 4: Jones had success in Kansas City doing that. Philadelphia last 324 00:13:39,280 --> 00:13:42,480 Speaker 4: year had success doing that. I think that that feels 325 00:13:42,480 --> 00:13:45,880 Speaker 4: like it impacts things way way more than dynamic edge rushers. 326 00:13:45,880 --> 00:13:48,040 Speaker 4: Now that's not to take away from Miles Garrett or 327 00:13:48,040 --> 00:13:50,440 Speaker 4: Max Crosby or Trey Hendricks. Someonody is healthy, but it 328 00:13:50,480 --> 00:13:52,760 Speaker 4: feels like that the teams that can pressure up the 329 00:13:52,760 --> 00:13:56,080 Speaker 4: middle are the ones that have a lot of defensive success. 330 00:13:56,120 --> 00:13:58,880 Speaker 4: So to me, it would be that over anything else. 331 00:13:59,120 --> 00:14:02,319 Speaker 4: Doesn't mean I'm they need an edge maybe two. They 332 00:14:02,320 --> 00:14:05,120 Speaker 4: need another corner at the slot, quarter spots, some depth there, 333 00:14:05,320 --> 00:14:07,520 Speaker 4: They at least need one starting safety. Wouldn't hurt to 334 00:14:07,520 --> 00:14:10,360 Speaker 4: bring another veteran linebacker. But to me, if there's one position, 335 00:14:10,679 --> 00:14:12,520 Speaker 4: get me a get me a defensive tackle can rush 336 00:14:12,559 --> 00:14:15,080 Speaker 4: the passer. And honestly, you know, it makes you go, 337 00:14:15,160 --> 00:14:17,440 Speaker 4: what if Bira Murphy were on the board a couple 338 00:14:17,440 --> 00:14:19,320 Speaker 4: of years ago. What if Walter Nolan now I know 339 00:14:19,360 --> 00:14:21,080 Speaker 4: he got hurt, was on the board. Could those guys 340 00:14:21,120 --> 00:14:22,760 Speaker 4: would those guys that made a difference. I think Byron 341 00:14:22,840 --> 00:14:25,080 Speaker 4: Murphy had I goes on that. I think he had 342 00:14:25,080 --> 00:14:27,040 Speaker 4: seven sacks this year. I don't have any pressures, but 343 00:14:27,280 --> 00:14:29,240 Speaker 4: you know, you just watch him playing. He impacts the game. 344 00:14:29,680 --> 00:14:33,440 Speaker 4: So I it would have taken maybe a different trajectory 345 00:14:33,480 --> 00:14:34,960 Speaker 4: for them if they've been on the bollard. They weren't, 346 00:14:35,680 --> 00:14:37,560 Speaker 4: and so to me, you've got to address that. The 347 00:14:37,600 --> 00:14:40,720 Speaker 4: year Larry ogun Joe being bj Hill in twenty twenty one, 348 00:14:40,800 --> 00:14:44,200 Speaker 4: those two guys were a really good combination together getting 349 00:14:44,200 --> 00:14:45,000 Speaker 4: pressure up the middle. 350 00:14:45,800 --> 00:14:49,360 Speaker 3: In an off season that's going to be full of storylines, 351 00:14:49,480 --> 00:14:51,680 Speaker 3: I do want to shift for just one second because 352 00:14:51,720 --> 00:14:54,760 Speaker 3: you mentioned you wrote about this on Sunday on Local 353 00:14:54,800 --> 00:14:58,720 Speaker 3: twelve dot com about the Cincinnati Reds and they're off season. 354 00:14:59,720 --> 00:15:01,640 Speaker 3: I'll that's cute because I've asked people this before. 355 00:15:01,720 --> 00:15:02,120 Speaker 2: Skinny. 356 00:15:02,280 --> 00:15:05,840 Speaker 3: I'm confused on the message from the Reds. On one hand, 357 00:15:06,400 --> 00:15:09,520 Speaker 3: they were all in on Kyle Schwarber, who doesn't really 358 00:15:09,560 --> 00:15:11,640 Speaker 3: go along with their mentality. He hits a lot of 359 00:15:11,680 --> 00:15:15,520 Speaker 3: home runs. This team, for whatever reason, doesn't lean into 360 00:15:15,520 --> 00:15:19,400 Speaker 3: the home run ballpark. This team, we heard from Terry Francona, 361 00:15:19,440 --> 00:15:20,800 Speaker 3: they're not going to score a lot of runs. They're 362 00:15:20,800 --> 00:15:22,560 Speaker 3: also not going to be that aggressive on the base pass. 363 00:15:22,640 --> 00:15:26,880 Speaker 3: Chris Valaika tried to lay out some sort of roadmap 364 00:15:26,960 --> 00:15:29,240 Speaker 3: about offense where other teams come in and their goal 365 00:15:29,280 --> 00:15:31,360 Speaker 3: is to hit home runs, but it's not what the 366 00:15:31,400 --> 00:15:34,600 Speaker 3: Reds want to do, and then not parlays into some 367 00:15:35,200 --> 00:15:38,120 Speaker 3: average players that they bring in in the offseason. I 368 00:15:38,160 --> 00:15:40,600 Speaker 3: do think the pitching staff is better, and then as 369 00:15:40,640 --> 00:15:43,120 Speaker 3: of late they are interested in other players and bats 370 00:15:43,120 --> 00:15:44,440 Speaker 3: in this lineup. But you got to wait till the 371 00:15:44,480 --> 00:15:47,960 Speaker 3: TV deal plays out to see where things go. What 372 00:15:48,040 --> 00:15:50,440 Speaker 3: do you make up to this point? I mean we're 373 00:15:50,760 --> 00:15:53,560 Speaker 3: a couple of weeks now away from pitchers and catchers reporting. 374 00:15:53,960 --> 00:15:56,120 Speaker 2: What do you make of where the Reds are right now? 375 00:15:57,240 --> 00:16:01,320 Speaker 4: Yeah? So your point earlier, I think they've tried to 376 00:16:01,440 --> 00:16:04,240 Speaker 4: spin things in a pr way as like, oh, we're 377 00:16:04,240 --> 00:16:05,920 Speaker 4: going to try to pay Kyle Schwarber. We couldn't go 378 00:16:05,920 --> 00:16:08,800 Speaker 4: above one hundred and thirty million dollars. Hey, we offered 379 00:16:08,880 --> 00:16:11,040 Speaker 4: l De la Cruz the biggest contract in franchise history. 380 00:16:11,080 --> 00:16:14,160 Speaker 4: That sounds great, but what was it? Was it astronomical? 381 00:16:14,280 --> 00:16:16,840 Speaker 4: Was it barely over with Joe Evado, you know, made 382 00:16:16,880 --> 00:16:19,280 Speaker 4: in his years? Where were we that? I didn't see 383 00:16:19,280 --> 00:16:20,960 Speaker 4: any number? So it's it's a way to kind of 384 00:16:20,960 --> 00:16:23,720 Speaker 4: spend saying hey, we're trying, but are you really? And 385 00:16:23,960 --> 00:16:26,360 Speaker 4: that's where the Schwarmer one is the most confusing one 386 00:16:26,400 --> 00:16:27,960 Speaker 4: of all to me, the way that played out of 387 00:16:28,240 --> 00:16:30,800 Speaker 4: we were willing to spend one hundred and thirty mil. Okay, 388 00:16:30,840 --> 00:16:32,600 Speaker 4: So what happened to that money dry up and go away? 389 00:16:32,720 --> 00:16:35,120 Speaker 4: Did it blow out the window? I mean, if you 390 00:16:35,200 --> 00:16:37,760 Speaker 4: were willing to spend on him, couldn't have used that 391 00:16:37,800 --> 00:16:40,120 Speaker 4: pot of money, or at least some of that pot 392 00:16:40,120 --> 00:16:43,600 Speaker 4: of money to go get not a Kyle Schwarber level back, 393 00:16:43,760 --> 00:16:46,320 Speaker 4: but at least somebody that's going to improve your offense. 394 00:16:46,360 --> 00:16:48,120 Speaker 4: That's a puzzling thing to me. That's why that seems 395 00:16:48,120 --> 00:16:51,040 Speaker 4: so prs to me, Like they knew they couldn't get 396 00:16:51,080 --> 00:16:53,280 Speaker 4: the one hundred and fifty mil, so they just say, yeah, 397 00:16:53,320 --> 00:16:56,080 Speaker 4: we were gonna give them a hundred and thirty Sorry, okay, fine, 398 00:16:56,640 --> 00:16:58,680 Speaker 4: Then where did that money go? I mean, did you 399 00:16:58,840 --> 00:17:00,800 Speaker 4: have a stock market loss? Glink ground? I mean what 400 00:17:00,840 --> 00:17:01,720 Speaker 4: after that money? 401 00:17:02,880 --> 00:17:07,360 Speaker 5: Do you think, Skinny, that the impending lockout has an 402 00:17:07,680 --> 00:17:09,680 Speaker 5: effect on any of this decision making? 403 00:17:11,720 --> 00:17:14,600 Speaker 4: It probably has to write, But at the same time, 404 00:17:14,640 --> 00:17:17,320 Speaker 4: I mean, whatever you lock yourself into for a contract 405 00:17:17,320 --> 00:17:19,399 Speaker 4: this year. If there's a lockout next year, you're not 406 00:17:19,440 --> 00:17:25,320 Speaker 4: paying them. So it probably shouldn't in my opinion, but 407 00:17:25,440 --> 00:17:27,960 Speaker 4: there's probably a little bit of that in there. Again, 408 00:17:28,000 --> 00:17:30,880 Speaker 4: we've known about that potential since the offseason began, even 409 00:17:30,920 --> 00:17:32,840 Speaker 4: before then, right, So again, if they were in on 410 00:17:32,920 --> 00:17:35,800 Speaker 4: Kyle Schwarber at one hundred and thirty mili, Okay, you're 411 00:17:35,840 --> 00:17:39,320 Speaker 4: still there. Lockout or not lockout. And that's the most 412 00:17:39,359 --> 00:17:41,080 Speaker 4: confusing part to me. And then you get the spin 413 00:17:41,160 --> 00:17:43,440 Speaker 4: of we're going to we offered Elie the biggest contractor. 414 00:17:43,400 --> 00:17:45,840 Speaker 4: I wen't know his agents, whose agent is. You know, 415 00:17:45,920 --> 00:17:48,040 Speaker 4: his agent's gonna take him to free agency no matter what. 416 00:17:48,240 --> 00:17:50,000 Speaker 4: So it's easy to say we were going to give 417 00:17:50,040 --> 00:17:52,280 Speaker 4: him the biggest contract in Red history, knowing the agent 418 00:17:52,280 --> 00:17:54,000 Speaker 4: wasn't going to take the biggest contract in Red history. 419 00:17:54,000 --> 00:17:55,200 Speaker 4: He wants this dude to hit the market. 420 00:17:55,600 --> 00:17:57,480 Speaker 5: Yeah, do you think you know, if you were the 421 00:17:58,359 --> 00:18:00,720 Speaker 5: commissioner of Major League Baseball and you just you know, 422 00:18:00,800 --> 00:18:03,240 Speaker 5: got to snap your fingers and new rules were in place, 423 00:18:03,720 --> 00:18:05,879 Speaker 5: would you add a salary cap? Would you add a 424 00:18:05,920 --> 00:18:08,359 Speaker 5: salary floor? I mean, obviously that's what they're going to 425 00:18:08,359 --> 00:18:10,520 Speaker 5: be fighting over for the next year, so correct, How 426 00:18:10,520 --> 00:18:13,080 Speaker 5: do you what would you do that you think would 427 00:18:13,119 --> 00:18:15,280 Speaker 5: be best for baseball if you were the commissioner. 428 00:18:16,600 --> 00:18:18,200 Speaker 4: I mean, it seems like it's worked out great for 429 00:18:18,240 --> 00:18:19,800 Speaker 4: the NFL, does it not. I mean, it's the most 430 00:18:19,800 --> 00:18:23,120 Speaker 4: popular sport maybe just because of the action and the gambling. 431 00:18:23,240 --> 00:18:25,760 Speaker 4: More people gamble on football than ever will gamble on baseball. 432 00:18:25,800 --> 00:18:27,600 Speaker 4: All those things, and that does have a factor on 433 00:18:27,680 --> 00:18:30,480 Speaker 4: fantasy football. That stuff has a factor to it. But 434 00:18:31,119 --> 00:18:32,800 Speaker 4: I do think the fact that you can see the 435 00:18:32,800 --> 00:18:35,160 Speaker 4: New England Patriots in one off season go from four 436 00:18:35,240 --> 00:18:38,080 Speaker 4: and thirteen to the super Bowl. You know, you see 437 00:18:38,119 --> 00:18:42,160 Speaker 4: those things and those things are real, so you don't 438 00:18:42,240 --> 00:18:44,960 Speaker 4: you rarely get that in baseball just because there's such 439 00:18:45,320 --> 00:18:47,920 Speaker 4: such a discrepancy. I mean, the Dodgers are just stuck 440 00:18:47,920 --> 00:18:50,280 Speaker 4: a middle finger up to everybody. When they signed Cale 441 00:18:50,320 --> 00:18:52,359 Speaker 4: Sucker said, yep, do what we can do. You can't 442 00:18:52,359 --> 00:18:54,960 Speaker 4: do this, we can, and it just it feels like 443 00:18:55,040 --> 00:18:57,240 Speaker 4: a lot of marketplaces you're doomed. And I'm not here 444 00:18:57,240 --> 00:18:59,240 Speaker 4: to say that gives you an excuse. I mean, you 445 00:18:59,320 --> 00:19:02,760 Speaker 4: better draft that, you better develop better, you better figure 446 00:19:02,760 --> 00:19:05,640 Speaker 4: out different ways to do things. But to me, man, 447 00:19:05,720 --> 00:19:08,439 Speaker 4: it's it's a spot where that is the that is 448 00:19:08,440 --> 00:19:09,960 Speaker 4: the part of the sport that's got to change and 449 00:19:10,040 --> 00:19:10,960 Speaker 4: got to change sooner. 450 00:19:10,800 --> 00:19:14,400 Speaker 3: Rather than later, real quick, does Scotter Port? How's Beechwood 451 00:19:14,440 --> 00:19:16,000 Speaker 3: doing this year? Do you got these guys? I mean, 452 00:19:16,080 --> 00:19:17,840 Speaker 3: I know you're a guy that kind of leads in 453 00:19:17,880 --> 00:19:19,840 Speaker 3: and get better as the season goes. Where are you 454 00:19:19,840 --> 00:19:20,640 Speaker 3: guys at right now? 455 00:19:21,840 --> 00:19:24,120 Speaker 4: Well, we've been missing a couple of starters of lost 456 00:19:24,119 --> 00:19:26,240 Speaker 4: a couple of tough games. Last week did Dixie Hips 457 00:19:26,280 --> 00:19:29,399 Speaker 4: and Lloyd by one and overtime and won by three points. 458 00:19:29,560 --> 00:19:32,320 Speaker 4: But we're thirteen and seven, having a pretty good year. 459 00:19:32,320 --> 00:19:34,360 Speaker 4: We got a really good sophomore point guard. I'll throw 460 00:19:34,400 --> 00:19:36,560 Speaker 4: his name out there. His named Dylan top Miller. He's 461 00:19:36,600 --> 00:19:39,000 Speaker 4: about six foot one, he can dunk it. He's averaging 462 00:19:39,000 --> 00:19:41,439 Speaker 4: about twenty points a game. I'm looking forward to his 463 00:19:41,480 --> 00:19:44,520 Speaker 4: development with our program and my JV team's having a 464 00:19:44,600 --> 00:19:46,840 Speaker 4: nice year, so things things are going in the right direction. 465 00:19:47,240 --> 00:19:49,840 Speaker 3: When you break the huddle last night, I saw before 466 00:19:49,840 --> 00:19:52,440 Speaker 3: they ran on the floor, Kentucky gathered around and they said, 467 00:19:52,480 --> 00:19:55,720 Speaker 3: touch money. All the money they spent on that roster. 468 00:19:55,920 --> 00:19:58,119 Speaker 3: Do you do you do something similar in Beachwood. What 469 00:19:58,119 --> 00:19:59,800 Speaker 3: do you guys break it down with before you head 470 00:19:59,840 --> 00:20:00,640 Speaker 3: out the time out? 471 00:20:01,880 --> 00:20:04,200 Speaker 4: Uh? Yeah, it's usually just something simple like play hard 472 00:20:04,440 --> 00:20:07,760 Speaker 4: or or wood on three. I don't know about the touch. 473 00:20:07,880 --> 00:20:10,280 Speaker 4: That touch money thing, to me is one of the 474 00:20:10,400 --> 00:20:12,880 Speaker 4: ugliest things that Kentucky could have ever had out there. 475 00:20:12,880 --> 00:20:13,480 Speaker 2: That's not good. 476 00:20:13,520 --> 00:20:16,520 Speaker 4: I mean it's you. You talk about a bad look man, 477 00:20:16,880 --> 00:20:18,760 Speaker 4: You go play that touch money thing and then go 478 00:20:18,840 --> 00:20:22,080 Speaker 4: get blasted eighty to fifty five. Well, you're touching your money, 479 00:20:22,080 --> 00:20:24,080 Speaker 4: but your fans don't want to hear that. 480 00:20:24,080 --> 00:20:26,480 Speaker 3: That wasn't you that got that that got tased the 481 00:20:26,520 --> 00:20:27,440 Speaker 3: other day in Kentucky? 482 00:20:27,520 --> 00:20:27,920 Speaker 2: Was it? 483 00:20:28,160 --> 00:20:32,200 Speaker 4: Oh no, No, but I've had opportunities. No, not not 484 00:20:32,320 --> 00:20:32,640 Speaker 4: the other. 485 00:20:32,600 --> 00:20:37,359 Speaker 3: Day, Skinny. You're the best man. Uh so much obviously 486 00:20:37,440 --> 00:20:39,520 Speaker 3: still goes on in the off season. Where can folks 487 00:20:39,560 --> 00:20:40,399 Speaker 3: follow along with you? 488 00:20:41,600 --> 00:20:43,600 Speaker 4: Yeah? I just head the Local twelve dot com slash 489 00:20:43,680 --> 00:20:45,520 Speaker 4: sports for all that we got up there, and you 490 00:20:45,520 --> 00:20:48,199 Speaker 4: can follow me on the on the social media's on 491 00:20:48,240 --> 00:20:50,439 Speaker 4: our Local twelve Facebook page and at Local twelve Skinny 492 00:20:50,440 --> 00:20:50,840 Speaker 4: on the X. 493 00:20:51,000 --> 00:20:54,560 Speaker 3: Skinny, thanks so much, but we'll talk soon, Okay, take care. 494 00:20:54,680 --> 00:20:57,040 Speaker 3: See I love he's like I've had the chance to 495 00:20:57,080 --> 00:21:00,040 Speaker 3: get tased a couple of times. Skinny, They tay, this 496 00:21:00,720 --> 00:21:04,880 Speaker 3: game's over. We're done with our first segment of hour 497 00:21:04,960 --> 00:21:08,080 Speaker 3: number two. 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