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Speaker 1: They say. The hardest thing in sports isn't winning a title.

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Speaker 2: It's hard to repeat seasons.

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Speaker 1: It's winning it again this Yearning is.

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Speaker 3: Not trying to win a championship, They're trying to repeat.

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Speaker 1: It's October baseball for your world champion in LA Dodger.

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Speaker 3: The twenty twenty five Dodgers are the National League's Western

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Speaker 3: Division champions.

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Speaker 1: And you know what that means.

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Speaker 4: Saxon Kates and AM is back.

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Speaker 1: This is Saxon Kates in the Morning with Tim Kates

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Speaker 1: and former world champion Dodger Steve Sacks.

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Speaker 5: Reacting taking your phone calls, talking Dodgers playoff baseball all

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Speaker 5: postseason long.

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Speaker 1: Now here they are on AM five to seventy LA

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Speaker 5: Steve Sacks, Tim Kaits.

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Speaker 1: Tim Kates and world Champion Dodger Steve Sacks.

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Speaker 5: Oh, we're off and running on a Wednesday morning here

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Speaker 5: in southern California. Thanks for being with us on this Wednesday,

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Speaker 5: October twenty second, two thousand and twenty five.

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Speaker 4: It's sax and Kate.

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Speaker 5: To the AM with you as you make your drive

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Speaker 5: to work, to school, your commute, Keep us with you

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Speaker 5: for the next three hours, locked and loaded as we

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Speaker 5: got a champag show to get to here on a

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Speaker 5: five to seventy LA Sports, I am Tim Kates, joined

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Speaker 5: by two time World Series champion, Rookie of the Year

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Speaker 5: and everybody's favorite number, the one and only Steve Sacks Saxy.

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Speaker 4: Good morning, How you doing?

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Speaker 6: Good morning, Tim? How you doing?

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Speaker 5: Oh? I'm fired up? Another day closer, I can hear it.

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Speaker 5: Getting towards Game one of this World Series. We got

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Speaker 5: baseball news here in southern California. The Angels have hired

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Speaker 5: a new manager. We got Game one on Friday. We

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Speaker 5: got media day tomorrow in Toronto for both the Dodgers

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Speaker 5: and Blue Jays. Dodgers flying out later on this afternoon

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Speaker 5: north of the border to Toronto, Canada. We got a

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Speaker 5: baseball analyst popping off about the Dodgers and being bad

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Speaker 5: for baseball, which we're gonna get into. We had Mookie Betch,

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Speaker 5: Freddie Freeman, Dave Roberts all addressed the media last night

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Speaker 5: at the team workout at Dodgers Stadium. So you'll hear

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Speaker 5: from all three of those Dodgers coming up throughout the show.

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Speaker 5: We got a little bit of a flashback for you

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Speaker 5: coming up in the seven o'clock hour as showy Otani

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Speaker 5: was almost to Toronto. Blue Jay, We're gonna go back

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Speaker 5: to that December day in which we all thought he

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Speaker 5: was on an airplane going to Toronto. It turns out

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Speaker 5: it wasn't him. So we got a lot to get

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Speaker 5: to over the next three hours. But we know now,

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Speaker 5: Saxy who the Game one starter will be. Dave Roberts

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Speaker 5: announced it yesterday and no surprise it snalls right.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, no surprise there, Tim. We know that Blake Snell

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Speaker 6: was gonna be the guy. I know David Vasse is

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Speaker 6: World Series. Now, what is it? They flew out, they're

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Speaker 6: flying out today. Are they working out today? Then? Going No, they.

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Speaker 5: Fly out about two or three o'clock in the afternoon,

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Speaker 5: so they'll get into Toronto later on tonight. Tomorrow they

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Speaker 5: will have media day at Rogers Center, which is not

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Speaker 5: like Super Bowl Media Day, but you know, sort of

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Speaker 5: in a lesser extent, not as much media, but they

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Speaker 4: If you will, right, we've had dollars to go to.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and so they'll have that tomorrow for both teams,

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Speaker 5: and then both teams will go through workouts later on

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Speaker 5: tomorrow afternoon anticipation for Game one. But tomorrow's gonna be

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Speaker 5: fun with media day you went through. What was that

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Speaker 6: I mean, it's just it's the same questions and you

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Speaker 6: You know, you know, everybody wants tickets, you know, the jitters,

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Speaker 6: and then it's just to me, the World Series was

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Speaker 6: it's it's it's really just another game to me.

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Speaker 4: It may feel like that for you.

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Speaker 5: But when you got sixty thousand people cheering and the

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Speaker 5: of a season, the World Series, the fans feel the pressure.

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Speaker 5: The fans are nervous. The fans are on pins and needles,

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Speaker 5: It's amazing how you guys can get locked in. I mean,

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Speaker 5: it's your job, you're playing out there, it's what you do.

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Speaker 5: But it's amazing that you guys can just get locked

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Speaker 6: Yeah, well, there's a heightened to wear and there's no question.

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Speaker 6: You know, this is the World Series. You know, you

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Speaker 6: understand that. But the the machinations of going through the game,

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Speaker 6: you know, you know, you've got to get ready to hit.

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Speaker 6: You're studying with the pitchers throwing, and you just kind

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Speaker 6: of get immersed into, you know, the professional part of

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Speaker 6: forget about everything else, all that other stuff That's a

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Speaker 5: It's it's important, I guess, then, to have good leadership

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Speaker 5: will calm some nerves. Maybe how much does it fall

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Speaker 5: on the I mean, was Tommy Lesora walking around there

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Speaker 6: You know, well, you know what, if Tommy's not screaming

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Speaker 6: We had the we had the instance. So when Bob

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Speaker 6: turn that into a positive. And that's what the team did. Yeah.

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Speaker 5: I mean, sometimes you need something to rally a team.

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Speaker 5: I don't know how much this team needs to be pushed, Steve,

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Speaker 5: I don't know how much Dave Roberts needs to go

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Speaker 5: in there and say anything. I know, during the regular

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Speaker 5: It was now finding out about an instance which David

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Speaker 5: Vassa was really the one to tell us about this

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Speaker 5: the last month that when they were on the road

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Speaker 5: you know, sit down and there was a powwow that

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Speaker 5: Dave Roberts, you know, told this team this is where

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Speaker 5: we need to be. You guys needed to get dialed in.

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Speaker 5: You guys are gonna get a focused here down the stretch.

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Speaker 5: And he did the same thing almost about a year

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Speaker 5: to the day when they were in Atlanta on a

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Speaker 5: that point, and Klayton Kershaw's getting hurt, and he.

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Speaker 6: Did the same thing.

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Speaker 5: He'd sat the team down and he talked to them

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Speaker 5: and got them ready. At this point, I don't know

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Speaker 5: how much Dave Roberts is gonna have to set this

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Speaker 5: two they kind of lead them so at this point

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Speaker 5: of this season, because these guys have all been here before,

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Speaker 5: I mean for them, I mean even Tyler glass Now

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Speaker 5: This is a group that's been in October and knows

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Speaker 5: what the pressure is of the biggest stage.

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Speaker 6: Yeah. A couple things about that. You know, you're in

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Speaker 6: the World Series, you're a professional baseball player, you're a

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Speaker 6: grown up man. I don't know that you really need

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Speaker 6: time where you know you really don't need that. No,

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Speaker 6: there's teams that can get into ruts during the season,

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Speaker 6: and the effect the effectiveness of a manager to have

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Speaker 6: a talk during the season, that might be it. You know,

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Speaker 6: halfway through the season you do that. If a manager

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Speaker 6: lose their their luster. They don't have the same type

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Speaker 6: of effect on the team. But if you have these

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Speaker 6: because most of the conversation are had one on one,

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Speaker 6: are effective. They go a little deeper because they're one

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Speaker 6: But if they're all the time, they lose their efficacy.

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Speaker 6: They're just not as good anymore.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's interesting you bring that up because that was

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Speaker 5: one of the questions. In fact, I think I might

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Speaker 5: have been the first question from our own David Vassi

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Speaker 5: yesterday on the Zoom Call with Dave Roberts asked him about,

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Speaker 5: you know, your voice ten years now as the manager

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Speaker 5: of the Dodgers, how has it not just become white

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Speaker 5: noise for some of these players, which you were.

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Speaker 4: Just kind of alluding to.

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Speaker 5: Than the course of a season, a manager constantly doing something,

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Speaker 5: it just becomes background noise. Here's the manager, Dave Roberts

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Speaker 5: yesterday talking with the media, and this is one of

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Speaker 5: the first questions was just exactly what we were talking about.

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Speaker 2: You've had a veteran group all year long, You've been

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Speaker 2: with them for a while now, how have you been

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Speaker 2: able to not allow your voice to just become white

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Speaker 2: noise and even when things were not going their best

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Speaker 2: this year, to find a way to get the best

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Speaker 7: You know, I think we're going to run the same

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Speaker 7: rotation back I think for sure for the first two

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Speaker 7: Smell and then and then Yamamoto and we'll see kind

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Speaker 7: of from game three in game four. Yeah, you know what,

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Speaker 7: I think it's one of those things that they know

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Speaker 7: me pretty well. I've learned to know them pretty well.

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Speaker 7: We have a lot of the same people that have

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Speaker 7: been together for quite some time, and with that you

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Speaker 7: some latitude and some grace. I think there's a there's

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Speaker 6: And there was there was a you know, a time

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Speaker 5: How is that culture, though, Bill, because we're talking about

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Speaker 6: The answer to that is very simple, Tim, and that

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Speaker 6: But you'd have it in sports. I'm sure they have

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Speaker 5: I think currently it has to be harder to have that.

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Speaker 6: Yes, it's so important. I mean, giving the example Tim,

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Speaker 6: Is he really Sacramento?

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Speaker 5: TV and radio broadcast and travel with the team. He's

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Speaker 5: known Vlad Guerrero since he was a young kid and

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Speaker 5: Vlad Senior was playing for the Angels, so we'll get

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Speaker 5: his perspective on this series. David Vasse will join us

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Speaker 5: as well. Dodgers fly out today to Toronto. Your phone

438
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Speaker 5: calls coming up, and an MLB analyst backtracking from some

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Speaker 5: of his comments he made on social media. We'll get

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Speaker 5: into it all. Steve Sacks, Tim Katon you on this

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Speaker 5: Wednesday morning. Good morning Southern California at the same if

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Speaker 5: I ANYLA Sports SAX and Kate's and am on this

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Speaker 5: Wednesday morning. Thanks for being with us bright and early.

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Speaker 5: Here with you until nine o'clock this morning. David vat

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Speaker 5: Say will join us later on. Jose Mota will join

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Speaker 5: us also in the eight o'clock hour. Hope to hear

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Speaker 5: from Buck Martinez, Blue Jays TV analysts and from the

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Speaker 5: nine to one six Sacramento as well. We'll hear from

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Speaker 5: Freddy Freeman coming up next hour. Your phone calls as well.

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Speaker 5: Eight six six, nine eighty seven two five seventy is

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Speaker 5: the number who want you to be a part of

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Speaker 5: the show, as we always do every single day here

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Speaker 5: on SCAM. But something caught my eye yesterday on social

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Speaker 5: media Saxy, and I know you're not on there a lot,

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Speaker 5: so I do the perusing for us to kind of

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Speaker 5: see the what the pulse is out there, what some

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Speaker 5: of the pundits are saying that that I follow and

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Speaker 5: are are are constantly, you know, giving their opinions and

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Speaker 5: writing things on social media. And something caught my eye

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Speaker 5: and it started getting a lot of traction yesterday. And

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Speaker 5: it's from esp Karl Ravitch, who calls the games on

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Speaker 5: Sunday Night Baseball, longtime Baseball Tonight hosts and now calling

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Speaker 5: him the college baseball games and Little League WULS series.

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Speaker 5: He's a play by play guy on ESPN TV and

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Speaker 5: been around forever. Everybody kind of if you see Karl Ravitch,

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Speaker 5: you know the name, you see, you see the face,

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Speaker 5: you recognize him. Yesterday he tweeted this out and I'm

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Speaker 5: reading exactly what he wrote at Karl Ravich ESPN on

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Speaker 5: X The Blue Jays don't beat themselves. They have lad Springer,

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Speaker 5: Yasevich and Gosman. They hit good pitching, they will have

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Speaker 5: home field advantage. They might say baseball from being ruined.

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Speaker 5: It got a lot of pushback from people, baseball folks,

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Speaker 5: baseball fans, so much so he had over a million

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Speaker 5: people view and comment on the tweet. So a few

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Speaker 5: hours after that initial tweet, he wrote, Dave Roberts, after

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Speaker 5: sweeping the Brewers, quote let's get four more wins and

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Speaker 5: really ruin baseball?

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Speaker 4: Those were docs were words. If the Dodgers win, is

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Speaker 4: baseball ruined?

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Speaker 6: No?

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Speaker 5: If the Jay's win is it ruined? No, Let's have

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Speaker 5: a long competitive series. Those are my words. He backtracked

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Speaker 5: from what his initial tweet was, and even Today's Saxy

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Speaker 5: more about an hour ago, one million views Tuesday, what

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Speaker 5: if it said the Blue Jays don't beat themselves, they

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Speaker 5: have blad Springer, Ye Savage and Gosman, they had good pitching,

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Speaker 5: they'll have home field advantage, and if the Jays win

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Speaker 5: is Dodgers remager Dave Roberts suggested the Dodgers might not

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Speaker 5: actually quote ruin baseball. Stop backtracking, dude. Yeah, put out

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Speaker 5: the tweet yesterday and you mentioned they might say baseball

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Speaker 5: from being ruined. Now you have to go back and clarify,

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Speaker 5: not my words. That's what Dave Roberts said. Please please Dave.

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Speaker 6: Dave Roberts was quoting what others were saying exactly. That's

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Speaker 6: exactly what happened. We all were there. You're not gonna

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Speaker 6: fool anybody. And yeah, that's the he's walking that thing

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Speaker 6: back because of all of the at he got social

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Speaker 6: media and he's trying to walk it back. He's not

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Speaker 6: fooling anybody. Kim is especially, you know, he probably doesn't

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Speaker 6: know anything about scam.

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Speaker 4: No, and we're getting after him right now.

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Speaker 5: I'll yes, i am, because I'm fired up about the

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Speaker 5: fact that you put this out there and you make

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Speaker 5: a comment about that they might have saved baseball from

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Speaker 5: being ruined if you were trying to be funny and

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Speaker 5: use that narrative. Again, it didn't come across that way,

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Speaker 5: and it wasn't funny. You can tell because of the

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Speaker 5: reaction it got from people, and you know, good or bad.

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Speaker 5: That's why you have to be careful of what you

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Speaker 5: put out on social media because people can read it

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Speaker 5: in one tone, and another group of people can read

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Speaker 5: it in a certain tone, and then another group of

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Speaker 5: people can read it in a completely different way, and

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Speaker 5: you write one thing and it's viewed three different ways.

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Speaker 5: That's the problem. He may have meant it one way,

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Speaker 5: he may have meant it tongue in cheek. I don't know.

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Speaker 5: He's backtracking in my opinion, but the initial tweet was

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Speaker 5: about the fact that that might say baseball.

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Speaker 4: From being ruined.

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Speaker 5: You know, this is a narrative being spun that a

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Speaker 5: lot of people aren't happy about Carl Ravage. And here's

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Speaker 5: the problem. You aren't just a blogger. You aren't just

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Speaker 5: a beat rider. You aren't just some guy covering the

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Speaker 5: team on a fringe outlet. You're the voice of Sunday

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Speaker 5: Night Baseball, you were for ESPN. You're a voice that's

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Speaker 5: been around the game a long time. You have meetings

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Speaker 5: with managers and hitting coaches and pitching coaches. When they

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Speaker 5: do these broadcasts, they don't just show up and turn

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Speaker 5: a mic on. They have meetings beforehand and kind of

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Speaker 5: get some insight that way. When they're giving you an

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Speaker 5: analysis on a game, it's like, well, you always hear this, Oh, well,

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Speaker 5: we met with the manager earlier, Dave Roberts, you had

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Speaker 5: to say this, or we met with the manager of

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Speaker 5: Have Murphy.

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Speaker 4: He told this this.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, in football, they have meetings during the week leading

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Speaker 5: up to games. You get a little bit insight. You

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Speaker 5: kind of get the feeld what's happening with the team,

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Speaker 5: you get the pulse from the manager or what's happening

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Speaker 5: for that one.

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Speaker 6: It's not just well know, I accidentally said this, right,

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Speaker 6: and there's you meet with these guys.

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Speaker 5: So how do you then put this out there and

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Speaker 5: and think, well, I just was I was just saying

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Speaker 5: what Dave Roberts said. No, No, you're you're a bigger

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Speaker 5: voice than that. You have to be more responsible for

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Speaker 5: what you say. Yes, and and and then you can't

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Speaker 5: backtrack why I was just try I was just quote

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Speaker 5: what Dave Roberts said on Friday night at the podium. No, No,

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Speaker 5: that doesn't happen.

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Speaker 6: And then and then when you try to walk it

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Speaker 6: back and and and put out that that jam right there,

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Speaker 6: that's people aren't gonna buy it. You kind of lose credibility.

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Speaker 6: Just say, you know, maybe I shouldn't have said that,

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Speaker 6: or just be flat out don't say that I was

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Speaker 6: quoting Roberts. Really we know Dave Robert. What did Dave

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Speaker 6: Roberts invent that? No? He No, he was reacting. He said,

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Speaker 6: now let's go win four more games and really ruined baseball.

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Speaker 6: They was kind of saying it, and just he was

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Speaker 6: just kind of highlighting what people say exactly. That's what

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Speaker 6: he was doing. He didn't invent that.

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Speaker 5: Come on, I mean, if if if you're gonna write

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Speaker 5: something on social media and claim that you were just

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Speaker 5: saying what Dave Roberts was saying, then you should have

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Speaker 5: put it in quotes. You should have put you know,

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Speaker 5: quote being ruined, meaning you're taking it from somebody else

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Speaker 5: when you type it out, and you don't do that.

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Speaker 5: It's your words, it's what you had to say your

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00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:19,400
Speaker 5: second tweet. When you put quotes around things, now you're

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Speaker 5: trying to clarify what you meant. And it's a bad look.

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Speaker 5: And it's a bad look for a guy who's well

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Speaker 5: respected and from all beings is a nice guy.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, and is this, uh, do you think this has legs?

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Speaker 5: I mean, for today, an off day leading up to

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Speaker 5: the World Series, it does?

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Speaker 4: I don't know.

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Speaker 5: I mean I think if if you're cal rabits, you know,

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Speaker 5: you make these comments and it goes viral like it did,

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Speaker 5: because it's not just me nitpicking it. It's not like

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Speaker 5: I just found this and trying to bring it up.

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Speaker 5: I mean, he commented this morning one million views on Tuesday.

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Speaker 5: Wow exclamation point. So this thing has legs the last

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Speaker 5: twenty four hours. And if somebody pought in the comments below.

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Speaker 5: Do you say this to Dave Roberts when you meet

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Speaker 5: with him before a game? Do you do you bring

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Speaker 5: up that fact that the Dodgers are running baseball? Do

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Speaker 5: you say it to their face? He might have just

587
00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:07,320
Speaker 5: lost a very important interview. Yeah, you know, Dave Roberts

588
00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:11,080
Speaker 5: might just say. You know what, I don't really trust

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Speaker 5: that what I say that you're gonna put out there

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Speaker 5: because I saw you say this other thing that you know,

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Speaker 5: you tried to blame.

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Speaker 6: It on me, So I'm going to pass on you. Yeah,

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Speaker 6: you never know. Dave Roberts is too classy but guy

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Speaker 6: to do that. Dave Roberts. You may not say it,

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Speaker 6: but he just may. He may just y you may

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Speaker 6: walk on.

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Speaker 4: By, Yeah, Dave Roberts, he might.

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Speaker 6: He might be on Warwick this guy. You know what

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Speaker 6: I mean?

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Speaker 4: Oh, yeah, that's a good one.

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Speaker 6: He might be on Warwick this guy and walk on by.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, just choose your words carefully Carl Ravich when you

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Speaker 5: put him out on social media and not having to clarify.

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Speaker 6: I mean, I got you, Tim. He might he might

605
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Speaker 6: give him the heisman.

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Speaker 5: He's too classy, Dave Roberts being around him, good and bad.

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00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:51,840
Speaker 5: He's still very you know you know.

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Speaker 6: What the heisman is, right, Yeah, you've never seen that before.

609
00:29:54,280 --> 00:29:58,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, the old post, the old stiff arm. He'll it's

610
00:29:58,120 --> 00:29:59,920
Speaker 4: like he'll get away from me, stiff arm.

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Speaker 6: First time I heard that, I was like, oh, I

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Speaker 6: get it. Now, I get the trophy. Right. Yeah, man,

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00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:06,760
Speaker 6: the dude gave me the heisman. Oh okay, I get it.

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Speaker 4: You've given me the heisman a couple of time sacks.

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Speaker 6: Now, wait a minute, I've never given you the heisman.

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Speaker 5: I said you a text over the week, and you

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Speaker 5: gave me the heisman as a kid, say you ghosted me?

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00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:16,840
Speaker 2: Wait?

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Speaker 6: What?

620
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Speaker 2: What?

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Speaker 6: Why? When? What? What was the text? I don't remember,

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Speaker 6: but oh, come on, it was something would never give

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Speaker 6: you the heisman.

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Speaker 5: It was something great. I know that because it was

625
00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:26,680
Speaker 5: always profound our text back and forth.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, well, I guarantee you on Friday, I'll be texting you.

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00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:33,720
Speaker 6: It's like my brother and I would forty nine er game.

628
00:30:33,760 --> 00:30:35,320
Speaker 6: We live right down the street, but we're texting each

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Speaker 6: other the whole game, and I'll be texting you on Friday, Tim,

630
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Speaker 6: Can you believe that I love it?

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Speaker 5: I love it. I'm fired up for my Friday night.

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Speaker 5: It's gonna be so great and I know we're gonna

633
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Speaker 5: get into it the next couple of days. But my

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Speaker 5: just initial first thoughts about Game one, the Dodgers are

635
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Speaker 5: going to have to overcome.

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Speaker 4: It's the initial exactly that the crowd really loud there.

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Speaker 5: I mean, Philly crowd was one thing, and it feels

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Speaker 5: like they were right on top of.

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Speaker 6: The lid on it. Yeah, they call it the lid

640
00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:04,640
Speaker 6: there in Canada. Do you know that I didn't know that. No, yes,

641
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Speaker 6: they call it the lid.

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00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:08,000
Speaker 5: Well, they got They gotta bust the lid off that

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00:31:08,120 --> 00:31:11,320
Speaker 5: place in a good way by quieting it and making

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Speaker 5: sure that they can't get into this game because watching

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Speaker 5: the Alcs. Not that I watch a lot of Toronto

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00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:18,240
Speaker 5: Blue Jays baseball during the season, but I watched the

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Speaker 5: Alcs more than you know I probably should have. And

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Speaker 5: that crowd can get into it. They know how to

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Speaker 5: get their guys back into it. They can smell when

650
00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:29,840
Speaker 5: the momentum is there and it's it's flips a little

651
00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:31,520
Speaker 5: bit in favor of their team, whether it's a lead

652
00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:34,040
Speaker 5: off walk or base it to lead off an inning.

653
00:31:34,160 --> 00:31:36,560
Speaker 5: They get it. They know how to then get into

654
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Speaker 5: a game.

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Speaker 6: Yeah. I mean a nice show Hey bomb at the

656
00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:46,280
Speaker 6: beginning might might put a little dowsing on that crowd,

657
00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:48,320
Speaker 6: and that that might be what they need, you know,

658
00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:50,880
Speaker 6: to get off to a good start. I think ta

659
00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:53,120
Speaker 6: Oscar is going to be very important in this series.

660
00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:55,680
Speaker 6: I mean, that's one of the guys I think is

661
00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:59,720
Speaker 6: gonna really there's gonna be somebody besides show Hey and Mookie,

662
00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:02,320
Speaker 6: you know, like maybe it's Tay Oscar like last year.

663
00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:05,800
Speaker 6: Maybe it's a maybe it's Monsie. Maybe somebody is else,

664
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Speaker 6: you know, kind of like a supporting player. Yeah, and

665
00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:09,960
Speaker 6: maybe not one of the big stars. One of the

666
00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:13,640
Speaker 6: supporting players I think is gonna be actually maybe the

667
00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:14,560
Speaker 6: star of the world series.

668
00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:18,440
Speaker 5: Max Munsey is that sexy, trendy pick right now. Could

669
00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:21,520
Speaker 5: be watching the MLB Network yesterday, I saw three or

670
00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:24,440
Speaker 5: four of their guys all like, oh Max Munsey, yep,

671
00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:27,440
Speaker 5: Munsey Monsey, that was their pick for As you were

672
00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:30,520
Speaker 5: talking about the non show. Hey, MVP, who's the guy

673
00:32:30,760 --> 00:32:33,760
Speaker 5: that can rise to the occasion? Max Munsey got got

674
00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:35,640
Speaker 5: a lot of votes for that. Tommy Edmond did it

675
00:32:35,680 --> 00:32:39,320
Speaker 5: in the NLCS last year precisely. I mean he had

676
00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:42,560
Speaker 5: he had a really good NLCS for the Dodgers. You know,

677
00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:45,400
Speaker 5: had a home run, got on bass, played really good

678
00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:46,520
Speaker 5: defense he did.

679
00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:47,800
Speaker 6: I love Tommy Edmond.

680
00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:49,719
Speaker 5: He's clicking at the right time as well. And then

681
00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:53,800
Speaker 5: matter's Max Munsey. You feel like Max is just ready

682
00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:56,440
Speaker 5: to burst through. It just feels like you talk about to.

683
00:32:56,480 --> 00:32:59,560
Speaker 6: Think he's like kind of pissed off. Yes, like I mean,

684
00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:02,200
Speaker 6: he's like, I'm so much better than this. I mean

685
00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:05,000
Speaker 6: I've go through the seasons and I produce. But I

686
00:33:05,040 --> 00:33:07,200
Speaker 6: mean he hasn't ripped the chicken's head off yet, no,

687
00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:09,160
Speaker 6: you know, but I think he's about ready to do it.

688
00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:11,440
Speaker 6: How about that play at third base that still runs

689
00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:13,640
Speaker 6: in That is not an easy play?

690
00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:15,760
Speaker 5: Yeah, both of them. You get the wheel player, then

691
00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:17,640
Speaker 5: the one he's spun on his knees and the wheel play.

692
00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:18,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, and the wheel play.

693
00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:22,120
Speaker 6: He's had two really good plays at third base. And

694
00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:24,200
Speaker 6: you notice when they when they hit the ball down there,

695
00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:26,120
Speaker 6: you know when you're towards the line. That's a pretty

696
00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:29,560
Speaker 6: long throw, right, Yeah. Mun see, every single time his

697
00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:33,160
Speaker 6: throws are right on the button, then they're on a line.

698
00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:35,280
Speaker 6: He's he's got a good arm at third base.

699
00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:39,840
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's gonna be fun to see him hopefully, you know,

700
00:33:39,920 --> 00:33:43,480
Speaker 5: get going here offensively for the Dodgers and again show

701
00:33:43,560 --> 00:33:45,280
Speaker 5: he was gonna lead off the game on Friday, game

702
00:33:45,320 --> 00:33:48,160
Speaker 5: one of this World Series. It is gonna be raining

703
00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:51,200
Speaker 5: booze when he goes to the play, just like it

704
00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:53,840
Speaker 5: did the last time the Dodgers went to Rogers Center,

705
00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:58,000
Speaker 5: and that was last Yes, yes, so close, so close

706
00:33:58,080 --> 00:34:00,400
Speaker 5: they thought he was on a plane heading to Toronto.

707
00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:02,440
Speaker 5: We're gonna got a little bit of a flashback next

708
00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:06,000
Speaker 5: hour on what happened on that December eighth, a Friday,

709
00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:07,840
Speaker 5: which was a crazy day.

710
00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:09,879
Speaker 4: Saxy from six.

711
00:34:11,719 --> 00:34:15,120
Speaker 5: Yes, yes, Well here's the other thing, this whole narrative

712
00:34:15,160 --> 00:34:18,879
Speaker 5: about the Blue Jays, and well, you know they're they're there,

713
00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:21,440
Speaker 5: They're Canada's team, and you know they're just they're winning

714
00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:26,840
Speaker 5: here and haven't been here in thirty two on that team. None, none,

715
00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:28,759
Speaker 5: thank you. How much money have they spent, how much

716
00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:31,040
Speaker 5: money have they tried to spend. Last time I looked,

717
00:34:31,160 --> 00:34:34,239
Speaker 5: they were pretty close to getting Showe Aotani. Last time

718
00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:36,560
Speaker 5: I looked, they were really close to getting Juan Soto

719
00:34:36,640 --> 00:34:39,280
Speaker 5: as well. I mean they threw a ton of money

720
00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:42,560
Speaker 5: at their own guy, vlad garow Or rightfully so five

721
00:34:42,640 --> 00:34:43,560
Speaker 5: hundred million dollars.

722
00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:46,080
Speaker 6: So that's a good deal for them, I think, absolutely,

723
00:34:46,200 --> 00:34:48,080
Speaker 6: And and this team is top five to tim and

724
00:34:48,120 --> 00:34:50,319
Speaker 6: sure spending money. Absolutely top five.

725
00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:52,520
Speaker 5: But that doesn't get talked about. That doesn't get that's

726
00:34:52,560 --> 00:34:55,840
Speaker 5: doesn't fit the narrative of big bad evil Dodgers and

727
00:34:55,880 --> 00:34:59,040
Speaker 5: all their money come flying in with their their their

728
00:34:59,080 --> 00:35:01,960
Speaker 5: their their airplane full of coins, you know, to to

729
00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:04,480
Speaker 5: Canada to play this game. It doesn't fit that narrative

730
00:35:04,840 --> 00:35:07,439
Speaker 5: because you know, to say that we have two top

731
00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:10,880
Speaker 5: five money spending teams here and okay, it doesn't work.

732
00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:14,400
Speaker 6: I want to see the players play, if they play hard,

733
00:35:14,680 --> 00:35:16,640
Speaker 6: if you earn the money, if you you know, play

734
00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:18,879
Speaker 6: for a lot of money. But you're putting it out

735
00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:21,040
Speaker 6: there all the time, you know what. That's that's all

736
00:35:21,040 --> 00:35:22,279
Speaker 6: people can ask, right.

737
00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:24,719
Speaker 5: Yeah, let's go out to the phones. Got some people

738
00:35:24,760 --> 00:35:27,319
Speaker 5: waiting patiently coming up next hour. Hope to hear from

739
00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:30,880
Speaker 5: Buck Martinez Blue Jays Analyst. Also a flashback to OTAWNI

740
00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:32,799
Speaker 5: almost becoming a Blue Jay.

741
00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:33,719
Speaker 6: We go to.

742
00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:38,640
Speaker 5: Matthew in Arkansas who's been waiting patiently. Andrew, thank you

743
00:35:38,680 --> 00:35:39,839
Speaker 5: or Matthew, thank you so much.

744
00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:43,080
Speaker 4: Welcome to scam Thanks guys.

745
00:35:43,600 --> 00:35:46,080
Speaker 3: I love listening to your show. I can't always hear

746
00:35:46,120 --> 00:35:48,920
Speaker 3: it live since I'm over here in Arkansas, so it's

747
00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:50,760
Speaker 3: great to be able to call in. I love hearing

748
00:35:51,239 --> 00:35:54,400
Speaker 3: Steve Sachs and and Jerry Royce. I love when you

749
00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:56,160
Speaker 3: guys interviewed mem I enjoyed it last year and this

750
00:35:56,239 --> 00:35:58,960
Speaker 3: year I can listen to a whole hour of Jerry

751
00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:02,400
Speaker 3: talking to you guys here on the radio. I wanted

752
00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:05,160
Speaker 3: to just go back a little to Tanner Scott. I

753
00:36:05,239 --> 00:36:08,280
Speaker 3: was listening to the stuff from yesterday, and I mostly

754
00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:11,359
Speaker 3: agree that obviously we don't want him in some kind

755
00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:15,279
Speaker 3: of a high leverage situation, but I do think it

756
00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:17,160
Speaker 3: would be good to still have him on the roster.

757
00:36:17,280 --> 00:36:20,719
Speaker 3: We've got, you know, Rableski on there and Kershaw, and

758
00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:22,719
Speaker 3: I think like Ben Caspiraus is still on there, and

759
00:36:22,760 --> 00:36:24,440
Speaker 3: those are the guys that will kind of suck up

760
00:36:24,520 --> 00:36:26,920
Speaker 3: endings if we, you know, are getting blown out or

761
00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:28,960
Speaker 3: if we are blowing out the other side. So I

762
00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:31,960
Speaker 3: think because we have Tanner Scott for I think three

763
00:36:32,080 --> 00:36:35,440
Speaker 3: more years, and he is a good player, and it

764
00:36:35,440 --> 00:36:37,040
Speaker 3: would be nice to be able to include him.

765
00:36:37,080 --> 00:36:40,200
Speaker 8: And I think Dodger fans, you know, his name is

766
00:36:40,239 --> 00:36:43,080
Speaker 8: kind of poisoned to us right now, ye, just because

767
00:36:43,120 --> 00:36:45,279
Speaker 8: of how his season went. But we want him to

768
00:36:45,320 --> 00:36:46,880
Speaker 8: be good, Like I want him to be good. I

769
00:36:46,880 --> 00:36:48,600
Speaker 8: wanted him to be good next year. And I think

770
00:36:48,640 --> 00:36:52,120
Speaker 8: having him on the World Series roster and you know,

771
00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:54,640
Speaker 8: not not putting him in a high liverage situation would

772
00:36:54,640 --> 00:36:56,600
Speaker 8: be good. So that way we can get his you know,

773
00:36:56,800 --> 00:36:59,120
Speaker 8: arm going, and it would you know, give him like

774
00:36:59,120 --> 00:36:59,839
Speaker 8: a boost for next year.

775
00:36:59,840 --> 00:37:00,520
Speaker 1: I as well.

776
00:37:00,640 --> 00:37:01,920
Speaker 3: So thanks for having me on the.

777
00:37:01,840 --> 00:37:02,840
Speaker 4: Showy Matthew, appreciate.

778
00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:05,400
Speaker 5: Thanks for listening in Arkansas and listen to the podcast.

779
00:37:05,480 --> 00:37:07,440
Speaker 5: If you want to listen on the iHeartRadio app, just

780
00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:10,600
Speaker 5: click on Clippers Clippers and you can listen on the

781
00:37:10,600 --> 00:37:13,040
Speaker 5: Clippers feed. There's no Dan Patrick there and you can

782
00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:15,279
Speaker 5: listen to us nice and crystal clear. So go to

783
00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:18,000
Speaker 5: the iHeartRadio app and you can search and just type

784
00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:19,920
Speaker 5: in clippers and there's a whole channel there for the

785
00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:22,560
Speaker 5: Clipper games. But it's also you can available to hear scam,

786
00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:26,000
Speaker 5: so we appreciate the phone call. Yeah, the whole Tanner

787
00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:28,719
Speaker 5: Scott thing is really gron got some legs going here

788
00:37:28,719 --> 00:37:30,880
Speaker 5: in the last twenty four hours, I think since we

789
00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:34,200
Speaker 5: brought it up Steve Sax yesterday and heard the audio

790
00:37:34,239 --> 00:37:36,880
Speaker 5: that David Vassa was able to get from Tanner Scott

791
00:37:36,920 --> 00:37:39,719
Speaker 5: at the workout two days ago. Sure, Tanner Scott wants

792
00:37:39,719 --> 00:37:42,400
Speaker 5: to pitch. Tanner Scott says he's healthy, he throws some

793
00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:46,799
Speaker 5: bullpen games in this week off, and he wants and

794
00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:49,239
Speaker 5: is eager to be on this World Series roster. But

795
00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:53,040
Speaker 5: as Matthew pointed out, we got a lot of fear

796
00:37:53,080 --> 00:37:56,360
Speaker 5: and a lot of scar tissue there still from watching

797
00:37:56,440 --> 00:37:59,760
Speaker 5: him blow ten games this year. And you know, again,

798
00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:03,080
Speaker 5: this is a not the time or place in my opinion,

799
00:38:03,239 --> 00:38:05,640
Speaker 5: maybe I'm wrong, This is not the time or place

800
00:38:06,040 --> 00:38:08,600
Speaker 5: to stroke a guy's ego to make him feel good.

801
00:38:08,840 --> 00:38:10,880
Speaker 4: It hopes that he's good for the next.

802
00:38:10,680 --> 00:38:13,400
Speaker 5: Three years, worry about that next spring training, get him

803
00:38:13,480 --> 00:38:16,200
Speaker 5: right for twenty six. In twenty six, not in the

804
00:38:16,239 --> 00:38:17,359
Speaker 5: World Series right now.

805
00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:21,839
Speaker 6: Yeah, But but I just want to caution people. We

806
00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:26,880
Speaker 6: were having the same discussion about Blake Trinon, and you know,

807
00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:28,919
Speaker 6: he's kind of come back to the fray a bit.

808
00:38:29,080 --> 00:38:32,080
Speaker 6: He's been a lot better, and there is gonna be

809
00:38:32,120 --> 00:38:37,040
Speaker 6: a time, whether it's maybe not this postseason, but there's

810
00:38:37,040 --> 00:38:38,920
Speaker 6: gonna be times next year. You got him for you

811
00:38:38,960 --> 00:38:41,720
Speaker 6: know next year as well, there's gonna be three more years.

812
00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:44,240
Speaker 6: How many more three years? Signed a four years seventy

813
00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:46,520
Speaker 6: seven year that's right, four year, seventy years, So you've

814
00:38:46,520 --> 00:38:49,000
Speaker 6: got a few more years with him. He's gonna he's

815
00:38:49,040 --> 00:38:50,920
Speaker 6: gonna be there, and he's gonna be in high leverage

816
00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:53,799
Speaker 6: situations and people are gonna come out of the game

817
00:38:53,840 --> 00:38:56,680
Speaker 6: when they're walking home saying, man, wasn't that Tanner Scott

818
00:38:56,800 --> 00:39:00,160
Speaker 6: just nails today? It's gonna happen. It's will happen. And

819
00:39:00,560 --> 00:39:03,399
Speaker 6: the Dodgers weren't weren't wrong when when they when they

820
00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:06,560
Speaker 6: signed him. I don't believe and he's going to come back,

821
00:39:06,600 --> 00:39:09,840
Speaker 6: He's going to find it and he's gonna be nails.

822
00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:12,360
Speaker 6: And I really believe that one hundred percent. So we

823
00:39:12,400 --> 00:39:14,799
Speaker 6: got it. We got to kind of temper you know,

824
00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:19,040
Speaker 6: some of the some of the conversation that the guy is,

825
00:39:19,320 --> 00:39:21,640
Speaker 6: you know, the worst thing since whatever you want to use.

826
00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:23,560
Speaker 6: But he's going to come back and be good.

827
00:39:23,640 --> 00:39:25,480
Speaker 5: I'm with you, and I'm rooting for him because he's

828
00:39:25,480 --> 00:39:27,359
Speaker 5: a Dodger for the next three years and I think

829
00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:29,799
Speaker 5: he will be big for them moving forward. And he

830
00:39:30,200 --> 00:39:33,400
Speaker 5: just doesn't magically lose what he was really good in

831
00:39:33,400 --> 00:39:35,360
Speaker 5: the last few years as a left handed closer.

832
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Speaker 4: He'll get it back.

833
00:39:36,840 --> 00:39:38,840
Speaker 5: I just don't think right now is the time for

834
00:39:38,960 --> 00:39:41,399
Speaker 5: him to try to get it back. You know, maybe

835
00:39:41,400 --> 00:39:43,040
Speaker 5: they can catch lightning in a bottle like they did

836
00:39:43,080 --> 00:39:45,680
Speaker 5: with Sasaki. Sure, I don't know, but I don't know

837
00:39:45,680 --> 00:39:47,239
Speaker 5: if I want to try it. I don't know if

838
00:39:47,280 --> 00:39:49,640
Speaker 5: I want to send him out there in a game

839
00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:52,040
Speaker 5: in Toronto on Friday or Saturday.

840
00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:53,560
Speaker 4: I don't know.

841
00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:56,399
Speaker 6: That's that's he is. He is going to be a time.

842
00:39:56,440 --> 00:39:58,200
Speaker 6: There is gonna be times where you're gonna look back

843
00:39:58,239 --> 00:40:00,200
Speaker 6: to you, man, remember that time in posts.

844
00:40:00,239 --> 00:40:02,160
Speaker 4: I hope so out there I look at him now.

845
00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:05,399
Speaker 4: I hope you're right. I hope you're right. We'll even

846
00:40:05,440 --> 00:40:07,720
Speaker 4: see if he makes the roster for the World Series.

847
00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:10,440
Speaker 4: A lot of left handed pitchers come out of the

848
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Speaker 4: bullpen at a point there. You know what I mean?

849
00:40:13,160 --> 00:40:18,080
Speaker 5: VESSI a Bonda Dryer, Robleski Kershaw, Am Tanner, Scott, I mean,

850
00:40:18,480 --> 00:40:20,439
Speaker 5: I love Left Tanners, but I don't love him that much.

851
00:40:20,840 --> 00:40:23,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, a lot of them.

852
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Speaker 5: He is, Steve Sacks, I'm Tim Kats were here on

853
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Speaker 5: this Wednesday morning, coming up, Freddy Freeman, Mookie Bench. You'll

854
00:40:30,080 --> 00:40:32,040
Speaker 5: hear from both of them an hour from now. A

855
00:40:32,080 --> 00:40:35,400
Speaker 5: flashback from when Otani was almost a Blue Jay. David Vasse,

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Speaker 5: Jose Mota and you eight six six ninety seven two

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Speaker 5: five seventy Saxon Kates in the am.

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Speaker 4: Right here on an FI seventy l A Sports.

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Speaker 5: Saxon Kates in the Am on this Wednesday morning, Amphi

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Speaker 5: seventy LA Sports live in local all October long here

861
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Speaker 5: in the mornings, as the Dodgers make their World Series

862
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Speaker 5: run the win back to back championships. Game one of

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Speaker 5: the World Series in Toronto on Friday, Dodgers and the

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Speaker 5: Blue Jays. Dave Roberts announcing that Blake Snell will get

865
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Speaker 5: the start in Game one, Yoshinoba Yamamota will go in

866
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Speaker 5: Game two. So lining up like it did in the NLCS,

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Speaker 5: just real quickly sec see last night the NBA season

868
00:41:19,160 --> 00:41:21,560
Speaker 5: tipped off. The Lakers lost to the Golden State Warriors

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00:41:21,840 --> 00:41:24,879
Speaker 5: one nineteen to one oh nine. No Lebron James, he's

870
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Speaker 5: out with the sciatica in his back, and uh, it

871
00:41:28,600 --> 00:41:30,880
Speaker 5: was all about Luka doncis last night he had forty

872
00:41:30,920 --> 00:41:33,719
Speaker 5: three points in a Lakers loss and is a one

873
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Speaker 5: man show out there with not a lot around him.

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Speaker 4: But that's besides the point.

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Speaker 2: Uh.

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Speaker 5: The NBA and on NBC returned after like thirty years.

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Speaker 5: You know you remember the old John Tesh No No no, no,

878
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Speaker 5: no Dona song that was, you know, very famous for

879
00:41:46,920 --> 00:41:50,040
Speaker 5: the NBA and NBC. Well, NBA and on NBC is back,

880
00:41:50,520 --> 00:41:53,440
Speaker 5: and part of it is they have Michael Jordan throughout

881
00:41:53,480 --> 00:41:55,759
Speaker 5: the season doing these interviews and kind of sit down

882
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Speaker 5: because he's very private.

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Speaker 6: Guys.

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Speaker 5: Now, you know, you know you see Jordan out in about,

885
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Speaker 5: but you don't hear him a lot. Yes, and he

886
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Speaker 5: did a sit down with Mike Turco from NBC and

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00:42:07,400 --> 00:42:09,560
Speaker 5: it was interesting. They said, do you even play basketball anymore?

888
00:42:09,560 --> 00:42:11,440
Speaker 5: Do you even I play pick up basketball? And he

889
00:42:11,520 --> 00:42:14,200
Speaker 5: gave a great answer. He said no, and he said,

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Speaker 5: the last time I shot a basketball was last month,

891
00:42:17,800 --> 00:42:21,240
Speaker 5: the Ryder Cup, and he said he rented an airbnb

892
00:42:21,680 --> 00:42:23,560
Speaker 5: up in the northeast where the Ryder Cup was at

893
00:42:23,600 --> 00:42:26,239
Speaker 5: Bethpage in New York or Black Page, whatever you call it.

894
00:42:26,880 --> 00:42:29,520
Speaker 5: And he rented an airbnb and the owner of the

895
00:42:29,560 --> 00:42:32,799
Speaker 5: airbnb said, Hey, can you do me a favor? Can

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Speaker 5: you shoot a basket. The guy's grandkids were there and

897
00:42:36,560 --> 00:42:38,120
Speaker 5: Jordan was kind of playing with them and you know,

898
00:42:38,239 --> 00:42:40,359
Speaker 5: signing autographs and everything. He was really cool about it.

899
00:42:40,680 --> 00:42:44,560
Speaker 5: And Michael said he got really nervous and it was

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00:42:44,600 --> 00:42:47,080
Speaker 5: the first time he had shot a basketball since he

901
00:42:47,080 --> 00:42:51,040
Speaker 5: could remember. And he says he was nervous because he

902
00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:54,600
Speaker 5: had pressure of these kids around him, and these kids

903
00:42:54,600 --> 00:42:57,520
Speaker 5: had heard stories and seen him on YouTube because they're

904
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Speaker 5: so young. And here's Michael Jordan, the flesh in front

905
00:43:01,000 --> 00:43:04,200
Speaker 5: of him and he's about to shoot a basket. And

906
00:43:04,239 --> 00:43:06,279
Speaker 5: he said he got so nervous because he didn't want

907
00:43:06,280 --> 00:43:09,359
Speaker 5: to let the kids down. And in their mind they

908
00:43:09,400 --> 00:43:13,120
Speaker 5: have Michael Jordan flying through the air the nineties.

909
00:43:12,880 --> 00:43:14,439
Speaker 4: And he said, that's thirty years ago.

910
00:43:15,040 --> 00:43:17,520
Speaker 5: And he goes, I don't let these kids down, and

911
00:43:17,600 --> 00:43:19,960
Speaker 5: he goes, that's what that was always my mindset is

912
00:43:20,360 --> 00:43:22,640
Speaker 5: every game, I wanted to be out there playing. I

913
00:43:22,680 --> 00:43:24,319
Speaker 5: don't want to load manage every game. I wanted to

914
00:43:24,320 --> 00:43:26,439
Speaker 5: be out there because I felt like there was somebody

915
00:43:26,440 --> 00:43:28,920
Speaker 5: who hadn't seen me play, and there was a kid

916
00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:30,919
Speaker 5: out there. This is maybe the only chance he sees

917
00:43:30,960 --> 00:43:33,000
Speaker 5: me play in this city and the one time he

918
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Speaker 5: can afford to go to a game, and I want

919
00:43:34,239 --> 00:43:36,319
Speaker 5: to put on a show for him. Kobe adopted this

920
00:43:36,360 --> 00:43:39,839
Speaker 5: philosophy as well, and the whole Mamba mentality from this.

921
00:43:40,440 --> 00:43:42,880
Speaker 5: But to hear Jordan say that he made a basket

922
00:43:42,920 --> 00:43:44,520
Speaker 5: and he shot a free throw and he made it,

923
00:43:44,719 --> 00:43:46,600
Speaker 5: and he's like, I made it in front of the kid,

924
00:43:46,760 --> 00:43:49,080
Speaker 5: And that's all I was worried about, was the kid.

925
00:43:49,400 --> 00:43:50,560
Speaker 4: In his mind.

926
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Speaker 5: Having Michael Jordan in the flesh live up to Michael

927
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Speaker 5: Jordan that they were watching on YouTube. I thought that

928
00:43:56,120 --> 00:43:58,520
Speaker 5: was really cool to hear Michael Jordan say, it's a

929
00:43:58,560 --> 00:43:59,200
Speaker 5: great story.

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00:43:59,280 --> 00:44:02,640
Speaker 6: Yeah, great story. And and you know, for for him,

931
00:44:02,760 --> 00:44:04,879
Speaker 6: you know, for the kids. From the kids point of view,

932
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Speaker 6: you know, he probably believes that Michael Jordan could never

933
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Speaker 6: miss a.

934
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Speaker 4: Basket, right, exactly, never exactly.

935
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Speaker 6: Yeah, but you know it's see, it's almost like Michael

936
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Speaker 6: Jordan is not even a human being. He's he's something

937
00:44:18,239 --> 00:44:21,160
Speaker 6: more than that, and that's uh. And Michael was sensitive

938
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Speaker 6: to that and didn't want to let him down. It's

939
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Speaker 6: a great story, very great story.

940
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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's it's just what Michael Jordan's about.

941
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Speaker 5: And you know, he's just on this pedalstal of the

942
00:44:29,480 --> 00:44:31,880
Speaker 5: greatest of you know, all time. He's the goat of

943
00:44:31,880 --> 00:44:35,120
Speaker 5: his sport and show Ayotani's right up there. So it's

944
00:44:35,160 --> 00:44:37,000
Speaker 5: it's just I thought it was really cool to see

945
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Speaker 5: Michael Jordan just, you know, always worried about the fans

946
00:44:40,760 --> 00:44:43,359
Speaker 5: and the kids and and putting on the show and

947
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Speaker 5: making sure he's always at his best. And it's a

948
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Speaker 5: in a time and era we live right now, Steve,

949
00:44:47,800 --> 00:44:51,720
Speaker 5: where it's load management in the NBA, it's it's it's

950
00:44:51,920 --> 00:44:54,319
Speaker 5: let's see how little we can do to get to

951
00:44:54,360 --> 00:44:57,719
Speaker 5: the postseason. In professional sports, it's kind of refreshing to

952
00:44:57,719 --> 00:44:59,719
Speaker 5: see a guy who you know, didn't want to sit

953
00:44:59,760 --> 00:45:02,759
Speaker 5: out and want to play all eighty two games seas.

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00:45:03,239 --> 00:45:05,600
Speaker 6: And I'll tell you about Michael Jordan. He played with

955
00:45:05,640 --> 00:45:08,200
Speaker 6: a lot of heart and he played his tailoff all

956
00:45:08,239 --> 00:45:10,319
Speaker 6: the time because he loved the game, no.

957
00:45:10,280 --> 00:45:11,240
Speaker 4: Doubt, no doubt.

958
00:45:11,600 --> 00:45:13,920
Speaker 5: Mario Santa Monica, thanks for being pat to your next

959
00:45:13,960 --> 00:45:16,399
Speaker 5: up on with Sacks and Kids and the AM What's

960
00:45:16,400 --> 00:45:16,960
Speaker 5: on your mind?

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00:45:17,040 --> 00:45:20,600
Speaker 9: Mario, Good morning guys. Thanks for having me on Love

962
00:45:20,680 --> 00:45:24,200
Speaker 9: the Show. I wish you were on all yearr Own, Thanks.

963
00:45:24,480 --> 00:45:28,239
Speaker 9: I wanted to talk guys about so the biggest thing

964
00:45:28,280 --> 00:45:30,319
Speaker 9: for this series I think for the Dodgers and Blue

965
00:45:30,400 --> 00:45:34,200
Speaker 9: Jays is probably one thing in step fastball. No one

966
00:45:34,360 --> 00:45:36,560
Speaker 9: hits the fastball better than his playoffs and strikes out

967
00:45:36,600 --> 00:45:39,080
Speaker 9: less than the Blue Jays. But at the same time,

968
00:45:39,440 --> 00:45:42,920
Speaker 9: no one throws less fastballs and the Dodgers except one team,

969
00:45:43,160 --> 00:45:44,480
Speaker 9: So going to look out for that. See what the

970
00:45:44,480 --> 00:45:46,960
Speaker 9: Dodgers can throw. Their pitchers can throw off speed stuff

971
00:45:46,960 --> 00:45:49,759
Speaker 9: and get him the swing and chase. That's we think

972
00:45:50,160 --> 00:45:52,680
Speaker 9: the biggest key I think in this series for these guys,

973
00:45:52,760 --> 00:45:55,000
Speaker 9: and I also wanted to talk about really quickly the

974
00:45:55,040 --> 00:45:58,960
Speaker 9: Dodgers running baseball theory. It's funny everyone calls for a

975
00:45:59,000 --> 00:46:02,080
Speaker 9: salary Cup and saying, you know, the Dodgers are overstanding,

976
00:46:02,280 --> 00:46:05,480
Speaker 9: but they don't realize that we have Andrew Freeman, the

977
00:46:05,600 --> 00:46:07,560
Speaker 9: guy had to work with the with the budget in

978
00:46:07,600 --> 00:46:10,080
Speaker 9: Tampa Bay for so many years. I'm not worried about

979
00:46:10,160 --> 00:46:12,400
Speaker 9: him working with a salary cap. Honestly.

980
00:46:13,200 --> 00:46:15,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't think we're gonna get a salary cap.

981
00:46:15,040 --> 00:46:16,200
Speaker 4: I appreciate the phone call.

982
00:46:16,880 --> 00:46:19,239
Speaker 5: So either that's a fight that's coming down the road,

983
00:46:19,320 --> 00:46:21,000
Speaker 5: we can see it in about a year and a

984
00:46:21,040 --> 00:46:21,719
Speaker 5: half coming there.

985
00:46:21,880 --> 00:46:22,719
Speaker 6: He'll die on that hill.

986
00:46:23,040 --> 00:46:26,080
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I mean that's something they were talking about

987
00:46:26,120 --> 00:46:28,240
Speaker 5: when you were playing Steven. I know you were very

988
00:46:28,640 --> 00:46:30,160
Speaker 5: very active with the players Union.

989
00:46:30,560 --> 00:46:33,719
Speaker 6: Yeah, and you know it's a there's some things, I mean,

990
00:46:33,719 --> 00:46:35,799
Speaker 6: if you think about it's too long to explain, but

991
00:46:36,360 --> 00:46:38,799
Speaker 6: in a nutshell, they would basically tell you when you

992
00:46:38,840 --> 00:46:41,440
Speaker 6: didn't have the rights that you had, guy like Mickey

993
00:46:41,440 --> 00:46:43,200
Speaker 6: Mantle would come Ince had a great year and well,

994
00:46:43,200 --> 00:46:44,920
Speaker 6: if you don't like it, go back to Oklahoma. But

995
00:46:45,000 --> 00:46:47,000
Speaker 6: this is what we're going to give you. Our team

996
00:46:47,040 --> 00:46:49,040
Speaker 6: didn't do is great at the at the gate, so

997
00:46:49,080 --> 00:46:51,960
Speaker 6: we're going to give you. Actually, we're gonna dock your

998
00:46:51,960 --> 00:46:53,920
Speaker 6: pay a little bit, not much, but you know you're

999
00:46:53,960 --> 00:46:56,040
Speaker 6: probably gonna make ninety percent of what you made last year,

1000
00:46:56,040 --> 00:46:58,680
Speaker 6: even though you had a brilliant year, and you know

1001
00:46:58,800 --> 00:47:01,080
Speaker 6: those days are gone to play are never gonna, you know,

1002
00:47:01,360 --> 00:47:02,040
Speaker 6: go back to that.

1003
00:47:03,280 --> 00:47:05,279
Speaker 5: No, and and and they're not gonna put up with

1004
00:47:05,280 --> 00:47:08,360
Speaker 5: the salary cap. They don't want to have a.

1005
00:47:07,560 --> 00:47:09,359
Speaker 6: Live a free market when you have a salary gap.

1006
00:47:09,400 --> 00:47:13,400
Speaker 5: No, never, It's it's the only professional sports still remaining

1007
00:47:13,680 --> 00:47:16,120
Speaker 5: without a salary cap. They have one in in football,

1008
00:47:16,360 --> 00:47:19,000
Speaker 5: they've one guy one in basketball. Baseball is the last

1009
00:47:19,080 --> 00:47:22,239
Speaker 5: one standing. Corey in Long Beach, Welcome to Saxon Kates

1010
00:47:22,239 --> 00:47:23,520
Speaker 5: and a What's on your mind this morning?

1011
00:47:23,680 --> 00:47:24,000
Speaker 6: Corey?

1012
00:47:24,640 --> 00:47:25,759
Speaker 3: Hey guys, great show.

1013
00:47:26,640 --> 00:47:29,920
Speaker 6: Thanks Corey, Steve.

1014
00:47:30,160 --> 00:47:33,719
Speaker 8: I would love to ask you who is the toughest

1015
00:47:33,800 --> 00:47:37,560
Speaker 8: pitcher you ever faced in your career?

1016
00:47:38,000 --> 00:47:41,520
Speaker 6: Well, you know what, Corey, there was a ton of them.

1017
00:47:41,640 --> 00:47:44,560
Speaker 6: I probably guys that you never heard much from were

1018
00:47:44,560 --> 00:47:47,200
Speaker 6: the toughest guys for me, But they were all tough.

1019
00:47:47,400 --> 00:47:51,000
Speaker 6: I would say a guy like John Dobson was really hard.

1020
00:47:51,040 --> 00:47:52,319
Speaker 6: I don't know if I ever got a hit off

1021
00:47:52,360 --> 00:47:56,600
Speaker 6: this guy. And guys that threw really hard. I didn't

1022
00:47:56,640 --> 00:47:59,000
Speaker 6: mind those guys as much as the guys that were

1023
00:47:59,000 --> 00:48:01,840
Speaker 6: throwing a lot of thiss and off speed stuff and whatnot,

1024
00:48:01,840 --> 00:48:04,360
Speaker 6: because I like to hit the fastball, so anybody that

1025
00:48:04,480 --> 00:48:06,920
Speaker 6: you can throw in that bucket. They were probably a

1026
00:48:06,920 --> 00:48:09,640
Speaker 6: little bit harder than the rest, but all of them

1027
00:48:09,640 --> 00:48:11,480
Speaker 6: were hard. These are major league pitchers. None of them

1028
00:48:11,520 --> 00:48:11,960
Speaker 6: were easy.

1029
00:48:12,080 --> 00:48:14,840
Speaker 4: You're talking about the great John Dobson from the Boston

1030
00:48:14,880 --> 00:48:15,440
Speaker 4: Red Sox.

1031
00:48:15,920 --> 00:48:21,279
Speaker 6: Yeah, great John Dobson who was about six four six' five,

1032
00:48:21,400 --> 00:48:26,000
Speaker 6: tall lanky, guy long arm, delivery great two seamer into

1033
00:48:26,239 --> 00:48:30,319
Speaker 6: the back foot of all right handed, hitters and, yeah

1034
00:48:30,400 --> 00:48:33,000
Speaker 6: and then a great. Slider so we had darting one

1035
00:48:33,040 --> 00:48:35,680
Speaker 6: way and darting the other, way and that was just

1036
00:48:35,760 --> 00:48:36,200
Speaker 6: a lot to.

1037
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Speaker 5: Handle you know what he's most famous for in his,

1038
00:48:38,640 --> 00:48:40,120
Speaker 5: career and happened in nineteen eighty.

1039
00:48:40,239 --> 00:48:41,200
Speaker 6: Nine what is?

1040
00:48:41,239 --> 00:48:45,520
Speaker 5: That he is the last pitcher to balk four times

1041
00:48:45,520 --> 00:48:50,680
Speaker 5: in one Game june, thirteenth nineteen eighty, nine a member

1042
00:48:50,719 --> 00:48:51,440
Speaker 5: of The Boston Red.

1043
00:48:51,480 --> 00:48:56,800
Speaker 6: Sox crazy AND i wanted to take the second TIM

1044
00:48:56,840 --> 00:48:59,359
Speaker 6: i know we got a, break BUT i may have

1045
00:48:59,440 --> 00:49:03,279
Speaker 6: a surprise guest later in the. Show Love, It Love,

1046
00:49:03,320 --> 00:49:04,760
Speaker 6: it that's really, big.

1047
00:49:04,719 --> 00:49:07,520
Speaker 5: Love it cannot. Wait stay tuned for, that big, big

1048
00:49:07,800 --> 00:49:10,799
Speaker 5: stay tuned for. That we're here till nine o'clock this.

1049
00:49:10,880 --> 00:49:13,359
Speaker 5: Morning he Is Steve. Sacks I'm Tim kaits one hour,

1050
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Speaker 5: down two to go right here AT fi seventy IL

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Speaker 5: A sports