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Speaker 3: The mayor you're after at peer vall opposing income taxing

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Speaker 3: threes to pay for crime prevention, affordable housing, and what

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Speaker 3: do you called disrupting poverty. I'm not quite sure what

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Speaker 3: But I'm trying to figure out how this tax is

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Speaker 3: going to solve that. The mayor said, should have this

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Speaker 3: the next couple of months here, and of course there's

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Speaker 3: gonna be plenty of public input now whether they listen.

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Speaker 2: Different story.

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Speaker 3: Let me bring in council Member Seth Walsh on the

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Speaker 3: show on seven hundred WW.

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Speaker 2: How are you.

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Speaker 3: I'm doing fine. I'm doing fine. So the current income

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Speaker 3: tax is like one point eight percent. That's much lower

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Speaker 3: Fairly low right now, So I think we got to

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Speaker 3: before I get to your take on this, the mayor,

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Speaker 3: this is about disrupting poverty. Can we tell out of crime?

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Speaker 4: Well, I think that I don't think that is fully

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Speaker 4: what the mayor was saying with this statement. We have

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Speaker 4: is being rooted in is the Future Commission's recommendations, which

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Speaker 4: had I recommended a point one five earning task increase

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Speaker 4: that include economic development and include more money for policing,

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Speaker 4: I think that is what is the conversation here, but

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Speaker 4: I haven't had a conversation with him to be told

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Speaker 3: I don't know if there's a misstep on his part,

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Speaker 3: this is why we've got to garnish your wages and

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Speaker 3: fix this. Well, let's go all the way back to LBJ,

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Speaker 3: It doesn't work. And I'll point this out because this

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Speaker 3: individuals that were with Ryan Hinton that day, we just

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Speaker 3: corporate the other two one got ten months in jail

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Speaker 3: I'm going to get this tax and helped low poverty

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Speaker 3: But you hear that and go, wait a minute, I

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Speaker 3: got to pay more in taxes When we've got judges

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Speaker 2: That math doesn't work, does it.

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Speaker 4: I think we're making a lot of assumptions about what

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Speaker 4: I think the fairest way for the conversation. The only

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and I bring that up because I don't disagree

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Speaker 3: well we're disrupting poverty, but you know, judges aren't doing

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Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely, I mean the Future's Commission you're really focus

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Speaker 3: He is a council member, Seth Walsh on Sloan here,

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Speaker 3: and what the mayor said is disrupting poverty.

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Speaker 3: It's not just Hamlet, but Butler County is proposing a

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Speaker 3: last time we had an increase was eight years ago.

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Speaker 4: I think it's yes. And maybe you know, I think

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Speaker 4: We've had a conversation as the community last year about crime.

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Speaker 1: We talked about crime prevention.

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Speaker 4: We talked about how we want to get engaged earlier

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Speaker 4: and you know, get you other opportunities. Besides, you're disrupting

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Speaker 3: Yeah, no, that makes sense, Seth Walsh. I think you

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Speaker 4: Well, I'm a big believer in you know, the city

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Speaker 4: And that's where I think the efficiency that the future

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Speaker 4: And I have every faith that we're going to do it,

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Speaker 1: Ye where I'm out right now?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it makes sense, Seth.

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Speaker 3: I miss if I didn't ask this, because I can

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Speaker 2: In the ring to run for State treasure.

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Speaker 4: Well, I think that the first part is we have

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Speaker 4: The State Treasure's race is an exciting opportunity and frankly,

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Speaker 4: So everything I've talked about from when I was in

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Speaker 2: All right, very good, Seth. I'm sure we'll talk later.

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Speaker 1: Brother.

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Speaker 3: Appreciate the time as always, man, be good and we'll

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Speaker 2: Seth, all the best.

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Speaker 1: Thanks.

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Speaker 3: All right, comes member Seth Walsh in the Scott Slow

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Speaker 3: Show on seven hundred w welw with news. In just minutes,

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Speaker 3: we'll talk about this. In return, I'm gonna have Alisha

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Speaker 3: Now they want they want to increase the children's Services

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Speaker 3: to this proposed income tax in the city and in

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Speaker 3: conjunction with the property tax increase in general, the property

439
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Speaker 3: valuation issues like it's all coming at you, and when

440
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Speaker 3: you hear this, you go, I know it's for the kids,

441
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Speaker 3: for the kids, for the kids, but how likely are

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Speaker 3: you to support more of these tax increases. We'll talk

443
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Speaker 3: to you about that right afternoons on seven hundred WWD.

444
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Speaker 3: Good morning, Scott flown back with you seven hundred WLWL

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Speaker 3: some light flurries for early morning tomorrow, I think. And

446
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Speaker 3: then we're waiting on the timeline and this winter storm

447
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Speaker 3: that's moving in the line of death. The axis of

448
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Speaker 3: the storm passes directly over Louisville and Cincinnati. Now that,

449
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Speaker 3: of course, we're waiting to see how much that changes,

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Speaker 3: if at all. If it changes, different story. But if

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Speaker 3: it doesn't change, we're gonna get dumped on this weekend

452
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Speaker 3: for sure. So we'll let you know how that plays out.

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Speaker 3: I just got off the phone with Seth Walsh, council member.

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Speaker 3: If you missed it till it'll be on the podcast

455
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Speaker 3: after the show. You can check out this entirety if

456
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Speaker 3: you definitely if you live in the city, kind of

457
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Speaker 3: a double whammy for you. So Seth Walsh was talking

458
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Speaker 3: about the proposal here for a increase the Cincinnati income tax,

459
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Speaker 3: and comparatively speaking, you know, we all hate paying tex

460
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Speaker 3: We want stuff, we want someone else to pay for it,

461
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Speaker 3: and somebody paying for it means usually tax payers. But

462
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Speaker 3: our income tax as far as city goes, it's pretty

463
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Speaker 3: low right now, it's one point eight percent, and I

464
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Speaker 3: mean low because comparatively, Columbus and Cleveland are both two

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Speaker 3: and a half percent.

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Speaker 2: We're kind of right there.

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Speaker 3: I think there's only one even small obviously smaller city

468
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Speaker 3: than us that that's tax rate is lower than that,

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Speaker 3: but pretty good compared to Columbus and Cleveland. However, there's

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Speaker 3: always however, the reality is so that we also will

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Speaker 3: have and Alicia Reese is going to give us at

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Speaker 3: ten oh seven this morning with me, because we need

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Speaker 3: money for children's services, and the county is proposing a

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Speaker 3: children's services levey that at a minimum, at a minimum,

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Speaker 3: would be an eighty percent increase over where it is

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Speaker 3: right now. That that eighty percent increase would raise about

477
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Speaker 3: sixty five million dollars. The target number that they really

478
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Speaker 3: want is one hundred and twenty three million, and they're like, well,

479
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Speaker 3: we're going to get the one to twenty three that's

480
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Speaker 3: the ideal funding level for us for children's services, and

481
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Speaker 3: that includes obviously abuse in the galact the hotline for

482
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Speaker 3: them and that infrastructure. But foster care takes a lot

483
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Speaker 3: of money. Family preservation, reunification, independent living. Oh, there's a

484
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Speaker 3: lot of things in there, and this one strikes at

485
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Speaker 3: my heart and my heart strings because of my involved

486
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Speaker 3: with children's charities, foremost right now being Marty Graff for

487
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Speaker 3: Homeless Kids happening at the Northern Kentucky Convention Center on

488
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Speaker 3: Fat Tuesday, I will be the King again and we

489
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Speaker 3: raise enough money to feed homeless children in Cincinnati, feed

490
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Speaker 3: children in Cincinnati for an entire year with that one night.

491
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Speaker 3: I'm very proud to be part of that, a very

492
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Speaker 3: small part of all that money and goodwill. And you know,

493
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Speaker 3: children don't ask for this stuff. You're born in the world,

494
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Speaker 3: you have no say. And unfortunately there are kids that

495
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Speaker 3: are in an in growing increasing number of children who

496
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Speaker 3: are falling between the cracks. There's no doubt about it.

497
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Speaker 3: Mental health is shoes are getting worse, not better, and

498
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Speaker 3: that's all come into a head and we need to

499
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Speaker 3: ask our money for eight years. Obviously you're going to

500
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Speaker 3: that ask is going to be greater with each passing year.

501
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Speaker 3: I know also the reality of this as much as

502
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Speaker 3: we need to fund children's services and take care of

503
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Speaker 3: these kids, and if we don't, we're gonna're gonna pay

504
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Speaker 3: more down the line. That's the American way. It's like healthcare.

505
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Speaker 3: If we took better care of ourselves, we'd be less

506
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Speaker 3: dependent on our healthcare, but we don't, uh, and so

507
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Speaker 3: we pay at the back end as opposed to the

508
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Speaker 3: front end. And the same is true here. The more

509
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Speaker 3: you pay at the front end, the less we'll spend

510
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Speaker 3: at the back end. And I just don't say, and honestly,

511
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Speaker 3: I feel it because if you're in the city and

512
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Speaker 3: Seth Walsh was talking about the mayor and his proposal

513
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Speaker 3: to increase the spending relative to a money got from

514
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Speaker 3: a income tax, and the county's asking you for money

515
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Speaker 3: for a levy. You also got the fact that the

516
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Speaker 3: state of Ohio is hitting you with higher property taxes,

517
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Speaker 3: and it goes on and on and on and on

518
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Speaker 3: and on, and you're really feeling the squeeze if you're

519
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Speaker 3: in the city of Cincinnati, because you only have so

520
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Speaker 3: much money to spend, because at the end of the day,

521
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Speaker 3: you do have to look out your own interests. We're

522
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Speaker 3: all selfish, and that's the way the world really works

523
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Speaker 3: on a lot of countries, and you know, especially as socialists,

524
00:23:06,520 --> 00:23:08,080
Speaker 3: don't believe that, but that's how it is. You look

525
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Speaker 3: out for number one primarily, and we all do that.

526
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Speaker 3: But also I think it's in company on us. Whatever

527
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Speaker 3: extra that we have, we look at how we want

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Speaker 3: to spend that, whether it's children's services or in this

529
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Speaker 3: case the income tax increase to pay for crime prevention.

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Speaker 3: Affordable housing a different matter, however, I would look at

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Speaker 3: it and go, okay, are they being good stewards with

532
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Speaker 3: their money?

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Speaker 2: Now?

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Speaker 3: County aside, which of course we just saw that Bengal

535
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Speaker 3: still get struck better than it used to be, but

536
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Speaker 3: not as good as most other teams have. The mayor

537
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Speaker 3: through these words, and I think if he continues down

538
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Speaker 3: this road, I think it's going to hurt their chances

539
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Speaker 3: based on what I just said. So you hear about well, okay,

540
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Speaker 3: there's the money going well, crime prevention okay, good affordable housing,

541
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Speaker 3: you know, okay, we need to do that, and disrupting poverty,

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Speaker 3: Poverty the root cause of so much to the violence. Okay,

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Speaker 3: And that's true. If you're poor, you know there's a

544
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Speaker 3: higher likelihood you're involved in crime. But the reality is

545
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Speaker 3: most poor people aren't criminals. If you look around the

546
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Speaker 3: United States, most poor people are not out there robbing, stealing, raping,

547
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Speaker 3: and going out. It's about one percent of the population.

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Speaker 3: So that' said, if I give you more money to

549
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Speaker 3: fight crime in the root cause of violence is poverty. Okay,

550
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Speaker 3: we gave you one hundred and fifty thousand dollars for

551
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Speaker 3: the cameras. And then when we had the murder of

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Speaker 3: an eleven year old girl who talked about innocent children,

553
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Speaker 3: eleven year old girl playing the playground on New Year's Day.

554
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Speaker 2: And there's no.

555
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Speaker 3: Video despite the fact that we're supposed to be came

556
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Speaker 3: working cameras up and they weren't. That caused the question

557
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Speaker 3: your competency. Also, this is outside the control of the mayor,

558
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Speaker 3: a council person or certainly Hamilin County commissioner. Is that

559
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Speaker 3: when Ryan Hinton did what he did on that day

560
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Speaker 3: and set this whole thing in motion, culminating with the

561
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Speaker 3: murder of Larry Henderson and all the discussions we're having

562
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Speaker 3: right now with his dad, Ryan Hinton his three colleagues

563
00:25:01,119 --> 00:25:04,119
Speaker 3: at that time as co perpetrators. One of them is

564
00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:06,640
Speaker 3: yet to have a court date, but just yesterday. These

565
00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:10,480
Speaker 3: are individuals, young individuals who had prior run ins with

566
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Speaker 3: the lost so they had a jacket. They also were

567
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Speaker 3: in the commission of a felony stealing cars, not the

568
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Speaker 3: first time they did this, stealing my car and using

569
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Speaker 3: it with a gun. Now it wasn't just Ryan Hitton

570
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Speaker 3: who had a gun. One of the other guys had

571
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Speaker 3: a gun and left it in the car. Fortunately that's

572
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Speaker 3: why he's alive and Ryan Hinton isn't. That was his decision,

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Speaker 3: in a day of really really bad decisions and maybe

574
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Speaker 3: a whole lifetime i'llbeit short of bad decisions, that was

575
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Speaker 3: a good decision. Don't bring the gun with me. Look

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Speaker 3: what happened to Ryan Hinton and that individual received ten

577
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Speaker 3: months in jail. Now you already had priors. Does that

578
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Speaker 3: seem a little light? The other individual just got probation

579
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Speaker 3: and we know how a lot of these individuals, I

580
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Speaker 3: can't say about this particular run will see, but a

581
00:25:56,840 --> 00:25:58,720
Speaker 3: lot of them simply just don't care. You know, people

582
00:25:58,800 --> 00:26:00,720
Speaker 3: are ordered to get a job, report back to court

583
00:26:00,760 --> 00:26:02,480
Speaker 3: and they just simply go, yeah, yeah, I'll absolutely but

584
00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:05,240
Speaker 3: then literally commit crimes the minute they leave and thumb,

585
00:26:05,280 --> 00:26:07,919
Speaker 3: their nose up in the system. How is money going

586
00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:11,840
Speaker 3: to solve that? How is you how them going into

587
00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:13,120
Speaker 3: your pocket? We need more money.

588
00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:15,560
Speaker 2: We got to disrupt poverty. How do you disrupt poverty?

589
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Speaker 3: Poverty has been around since the world's been turning, and

590
00:26:18,359 --> 00:26:20,320
Speaker 3: you can make an argue in America that that gap

591
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Speaker 3: between the haves and the have nots is getting greater.

592
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Speaker 2: Sure I believe that now.

593
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Speaker 3: Is it is it the government's job to take that

594
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Speaker 3: money and redistribute it for programs? Because I, again I

595
00:26:31,680 --> 00:26:34,159
Speaker 3: see better than I hear. We've had a couple of

596
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Speaker 3: generations now since the War on Poverty began under Lyndon

597
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Speaker 3: Bains Johnson. Then there are wars on poverty prior to that.

598
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Speaker 3: You can argue FDR the Great Depression, but you know

599
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Speaker 3: this one in more recent era, Lyndon Bains Johnson took

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Speaker 3: over for Kenny said, you know, we're gonna initiate a

601
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Speaker 3: lot of Kennedy's program uh programs. We're also gonna throw

602
00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:54,840
Speaker 3: some gas on the fire here too, and we're gonna

603
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Speaker 3: have this project where we're you know, we're gonna we're

604
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Speaker 3: gonna solve probab, We're gonna wipe out poverty. We're gonna

605
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Speaker 3: take this money and dedicate it and we're going to

606
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Speaker 3: build housing projects and we're lift people up. And what

607
00:27:02,600 --> 00:27:04,720
Speaker 3: wind up happening is you just created a couple more

608
00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:07,679
Speaker 3: generations of poor people. So the idea of spending the

609
00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:09,520
Speaker 3: money the way to do that. Of course, you gave

610
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Speaker 3: people money, and then there's a solid argument for saying, well,

611
00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:16,480
Speaker 3: if you continue to give people money. You know, the

612
00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:19,560
Speaker 3: old adage about teaching a man to fish applies here.

613
00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:22,880
Speaker 3: That is, we give you money, and it doesn't really

614
00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:24,760
Speaker 3: teach you how to be self sustaining. That is, to

615
00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:27,960
Speaker 3: teach you to fish, not give you fish. Right, And

616
00:27:28,520 --> 00:27:32,359
Speaker 3: some people, unfortunately, because of situations in life, maybe mental issues,

617
00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:34,439
Speaker 3: health issues, or other reasons, can't do that.

618
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Speaker 2: I get that, but that's not everybody.

619
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Speaker 3: And so we created generations of people simply depending on

620
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Speaker 3: a system.

621
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Speaker 2: That's a problem.

622
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Speaker 6: You know.

623
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Speaker 3: I was kind of thinking this though the break here

624
00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:46,240
Speaker 3: just saw news mount Orb for example. This is something

625
00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:47,919
Speaker 3: totally unrelated, but I'll make it related.

626
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Speaker 2: Mount of Orb.

627
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Speaker 3: They're discussing one of these data centers. You know, data

628
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Speaker 3: center's going on a lover the Wilmington's battling at Hamilton

629
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Speaker 3: and Butler Counties, Battling and Mount orb Ohio is I

630
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Speaker 3: think fifth in the country when it comes to this

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Speaker 3: new technology data centers.

632
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Speaker 2: We have space outside of the big cities. We have space.

633
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Speaker 3: Makes sense, right, you put these huge farms. Now there's

634
00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:08,000
Speaker 3: gonna be drained on energy supplies, and of course we're

635
00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:09,720
Speaker 3: I always talk about this word a crisis when it

636
00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:13,960
Speaker 3: comes to our supply of reliable energy. Yeah, you can

637
00:28:14,040 --> 00:28:15,920
Speaker 3: get that from the United States, but it's also about

638
00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:19,800
Speaker 3: transmission and generation and transmission. You can, you know, drill baby, drill,

639
00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:21,600
Speaker 3: all the all you want, but you got to build

640
00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:22,840
Speaker 3: a plant and then you got to figure out how

641
00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:24,919
Speaker 3: to get it from point A to point B. With electricity,

642
00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:28,520
Speaker 3: it's even more difficult. It's even more difficult. And so

643
00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:30,679
Speaker 3: you look at these farms that are going in, these

644
00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:33,560
Speaker 3: huge expanses of data centers are going and out in

645
00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:37,719
Speaker 3: the rural areas. You know, we do have some vacant

646
00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:41,600
Speaker 3: spaces downtown with COVID and of course the work from

647
00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:44,440
Speaker 3: Home Initiative. Now a lot of companies are mandating return

648
00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:47,520
Speaker 3: to work. We're turned off. But downtown real estate, rental,

649
00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:48,719
Speaker 3: real esa is not where it used to be. It's

650
00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:50,080
Speaker 3: not a guy. This is probably not going to come

651
00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:52,120
Speaker 3: back in that regard too, simply because we've moved on.

652
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Speaker 3: As we saw during the nineteen sixties and fifties and sixties,

653
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Speaker 3: when we build highways that got people to the suburbs,

654
00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:01,880
Speaker 3: and then of course crimes started to re or it's

655
00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:04,080
Speaker 3: ugly head in the cities and people moved to the suburbs,

656
00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:05,560
Speaker 3: and it took the tax spase out. And we're talking

657
00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:07,800
Speaker 3: about that and it all fits together. I think the

658
00:29:07,800 --> 00:29:10,600
Speaker 3: same is true when it comes to that. So we've

659
00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:12,200
Speaker 3: got all these data centers that are going in out

660
00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:14,600
Speaker 3: in the rural areas, maybe it's time to flip the script.

661
00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:18,680
Speaker 3: And you know, we've got some vacant buildings downtown or

662
00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:21,880
Speaker 3: some areas anyway we've got You need water, So there's

663
00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:24,480
Speaker 3: the Ohio River right there, largest source of water we

664
00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:28,360
Speaker 3: have in our area. And you already have infrastructure in place,

665
00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:32,360
Speaker 3: meaning electricita. What instead of building out, could you build up?

666
00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:35,880
Speaker 3: Could you do a number of smaller data centers in

667
00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:39,480
Speaker 3: a city like Cincinnati. Is that something you should look at? Now,

668
00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:41,920
Speaker 3: Grant it's not virgin real estate and you start from scratch,

669
00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:43,959
Speaker 3: and yeah, but the kind I understand, you know, building,

670
00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:46,000
Speaker 3: and it just won't work in a a in a

671
00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:47,880
Speaker 3: skyscraper if you will in one of these buildings. But

672
00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:51,680
Speaker 3: and and you know, maybe those vacancy rates are completely

673
00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:53,680
Speaker 3: But I'm thinking of the cities like you know, Dayton

674
00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:57,120
Speaker 3: or Toledo or places like that where you know you

675
00:29:57,160 --> 00:29:59,600
Speaker 3: have a lot of vacancies downtown. I mean, maybe that's

676
00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:02,240
Speaker 3: something to look at. Anyone saying instead of the you know,

677
00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:04,000
Speaker 3: the rural counties, do we try and learn some of

678
00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:06,760
Speaker 3: these data centers to Hamilton County and help the tax

679
00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:10,920
Speaker 3: base there? We have the we have, we have real estate,

680
00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:13,600
Speaker 3: so to speak. Maybe it's not wide and expansive. Instead

681
00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:15,400
Speaker 3: of going out, you go up. But is that something

682
00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:17,480
Speaker 3: to look at? Is that something to consider? I don't know,

683
00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:21,600
Speaker 3: that's way outside my scope of knowing why that would

684
00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:24,520
Speaker 3: would I guess it seems like it makes sense to me.

685
00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:26,440
Speaker 3: But I guess there's reasons you can make as to

686
00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:29,480
Speaker 3: why that wouldn't work either. But just thinking in those

687
00:30:29,560 --> 00:30:32,160
Speaker 3: terms is like, how do we instead of taking tax

688
00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:34,200
Speaker 3: money and giving it back to people in the form

689
00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:37,760
Speaker 3: of subsidy, how do we create more jobs for folks?

690
00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:40,080
Speaker 3: And you know, the data centers in Cincinnati, Hamilin County.

691
00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:42,400
Speaker 3: That seems to me a good idea. Now, of course

692
00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:44,800
Speaker 3: you would have because of the nature of politics here

693
00:30:44,840 --> 00:30:47,520
Speaker 3: being more blue than red in the county, especially in

694
00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:50,000
Speaker 3: the city, or it's deep blue, you're gonna have the

695
00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:52,440
Speaker 3: environmental assault worked up about that. But you know it's

696
00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:55,120
Speaker 3: the energy you all the look at it this way.

697
00:30:55,280 --> 00:30:57,120
Speaker 3: All of the protests that we have, whether it's Minnesota

698
00:30:57,200 --> 00:31:03,040
Speaker 3: or anything else, it all begins online. So we're really

699
00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:05,680
Speaker 3: good at being NIMBYs. Not in my backyard. So we

700
00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:10,920
Speaker 3: want the data, we want the infrastructure. We demand information

701
00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:14,480
Speaker 3: on demand, and yet when we have okay, well we've

702
00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:15,640
Speaker 3: got to figure out a way to get it to

703
00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:18,000
Speaker 3: you faster, be more consistent about it as we had

704
00:31:18,040 --> 00:31:20,640
Speaker 3: an AI. Yeah, well we don't want that in our area.

705
00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:22,680
Speaker 3: You want to use it, but we don't want We

706
00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:24,960
Speaker 3: don't want the infrastructure. It doesn't make a lot of sense.

707
00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:26,680
Speaker 3: I get it, but it doesn't make a lot of sense.

708
00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:29,960
Speaker 3: Like if you want yo look at it this way.

709
00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:33,640
Speaker 3: Just one was last week at and T. But Verizon

710
00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:36,280
Speaker 3: went down and it had more to do with AI

711
00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:38,280
Speaker 3: than it did. There's no hack or anything like that.

712
00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:41,240
Speaker 3: It wasn't malware or something the network and people online.

713
00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:43,480
Speaker 3: They're losing their minds. They're mad at Verizon because it

714
00:31:43,520 --> 00:31:45,480
Speaker 3: went down, and maybe you should be because they're using

715
00:31:45,520 --> 00:31:48,280
Speaker 3: AI I guess to expand their network but instead of

716
00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:50,520
Speaker 3: real people. And maybe we're not ready for that yet.

717
00:31:50,560 --> 00:31:52,440
Speaker 3: But you don't know until you try. And it was

718
00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:54,480
Speaker 3: down to people. I'm trying to get this in verdecation.

719
00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:56,400
Speaker 3: I can't and they're losing their minds over this stuff.

720
00:31:57,560 --> 00:31:58,960
Speaker 3: Like well, at the same time, are these the same

721
00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:01,320
Speaker 3: people that would protest building a data center. It's like,

722
00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:03,360
Speaker 3: you know, we want I want to use the phone.

723
00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:06,200
Speaker 3: I want I demand information in the blink of an eye,

724
00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:10,440
Speaker 3: and I want to have AI solve complex problems or

725
00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:13,080
Speaker 3: answer tough questions for me, or take all this data

726
00:32:13,080 --> 00:32:15,320
Speaker 3: that I have and break it down into and basically

727
00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:18,479
Speaker 3: do my job for me, which is awesome. But I

728
00:32:18,520 --> 00:32:22,240
Speaker 3: don't want the data centers going in my neighborhood. I

729
00:32:22,280 --> 00:32:23,320
Speaker 3: want to go somewhere else.

730
00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:25,520
Speaker 2: I don't know.

731
00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:28,080
Speaker 3: It seems like, okay, well, why don't we do that

732
00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:31,240
Speaker 3: in cities that are struggling and looking for tax revenue?

733
00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:35,280
Speaker 2: Seems to it seems to be something to look at. Hey,

734
00:32:35,280 --> 00:32:36,600
Speaker 2: real quick on this. Let me get to a Steve

735
00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:38,320
Speaker 2: on a sale on seven hundred Wwteve?

736
00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:43,200
Speaker 6: Hey, yeah, quick, note, you can't go off instead of

737
00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:46,840
Speaker 6: wide when you're building data centers because of poward load

738
00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:50,600
Speaker 6: requirements for going up are so high in cost.

739
00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:53,200
Speaker 2: I'm trying you broke up the what the what going up?

740
00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:56,520
Speaker 6: Is the poor loading cost?

741
00:32:56,720 --> 00:32:58,440
Speaker 2: Oh okay, I got you.

742
00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:02,080
Speaker 6: Yes, So I did many of projects for AT and

743
00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:04,840
Speaker 6: T and we would go into buildings, then we would

744
00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:08,640
Speaker 6: have to do a whole buildout of infrastructure for foreloading.

745
00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:11,920
Speaker 2: Gotcha, battery makes sense? Yeah?

746
00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:15,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, So yeah, what is this something you think you

747
00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:16,920
Speaker 3: think there'd be a way to do well? I mean

748
00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:18,320
Speaker 3: I looking at some of the areas, and you know

749
00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:20,360
Speaker 3: people are always well, we're wiping out a whole city

750
00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:24,440
Speaker 3: block for this, and yeah, but you know the point

751
00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:27,320
Speaker 3: of it is is let's look for reasons to bring

752
00:33:27,360 --> 00:33:29,840
Speaker 3: revenue in as opposed as opposed to just going well,

753
00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:32,480
Speaker 3: I guess you're going to raise your taxes us. Okay,

754
00:33:32,560 --> 00:33:33,800
Speaker 3: So the load, the load of the flow, you did

755
00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:35,880
Speaker 3: basically have to build an entirely new building. If you're

756
00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:37,400
Speaker 3: going to do that, then the floors would be fifteen

757
00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:38,360
Speaker 3: feet thre got.

758
00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:39,760
Speaker 2: It, Yeah, exactly.

759
00:33:40,040 --> 00:33:43,000
Speaker 6: And then the last comment also is like you said,

760
00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:45,959
Speaker 6: but you said it in a more professional way than

761
00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:49,920
Speaker 6: I would have. Hamblet County's pretty dag on blue and corrupt.

762
00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:54,479
Speaker 6: So after doing many projects in this town or New

763
00:33:54,520 --> 00:33:57,600
Speaker 6: York City, you know, it kind of goes back to

764
00:33:57,640 --> 00:33:59,959
Speaker 6: the Rodney Dangerfield of school that came out.

765
00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:02,080
Speaker 3: You got to grease to the wheel, got to pay

766
00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:04,640
Speaker 3: off the unions. Got it well that you know, the

767
00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:07,640
Speaker 3: deeper the blue, the more corrupt it is. But I

768
00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:09,480
Speaker 3: will say the deeper the red the marker, the more

769
00:34:09,560 --> 00:34:11,839
Speaker 3: the one side controls that, the more corruption you get.

770
00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:13,680
Speaker 3: That's how it works. Slowly on the Home of the

771
00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:20,160
Speaker 3: Red seven hundred w sincenat money money, money, money, money, money.

772
00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:23,440
Speaker 3: Everybody wants more. Hamblet County may ask voters to increase

773
00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:26,520
Speaker 3: the Children's Services levy. Last time we did this was

774
00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:29,160
Speaker 3: about eight years ago. So the current funding is that

775
00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:31,280
Speaker 3: we just don't have enough money for all the kids.

776
00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:34,560
Speaker 3: And this is not new, Butler County is just going

777
00:34:34,640 --> 00:34:36,440
Speaker 3: to They just introduced I think a new two mill

778
00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:38,040
Speaker 3: levee that they want to pass as well. It's all

779
00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:41,239
Speaker 3: over the state as well, because that poverty gap continues

780
00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:43,440
Speaker 3: to increase. There's just not enough money anymore to care

781
00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:47,240
Speaker 3: for the kids. And this would fund the abuse neglect hotlines,

782
00:34:47,280 --> 00:34:53,200
Speaker 3: foster care, family preservation, reunification, independent living programs. I'm involved,

783
00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:54,680
Speaker 3: as you know, King of Mardi Gras coming up in

784
00:34:54,719 --> 00:34:58,200
Speaker 3: Northern Kentucky Convention Center on Fat Tuesday. We raise money

785
00:34:58,239 --> 00:35:02,359
Speaker 3: to feed kids for three agencies here in Cincinnati, and

786
00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:05,960
Speaker 3: so it's a very real thing. Currently, the cost for

787
00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:08,520
Speaker 3: this levy is eighty one bucks per hundred one hundred

788
00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:11,440
Speaker 3: thousand dollars of home value. This one would increase at

789
00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:14,600
Speaker 3: minimum eighty percent and eighty percent increase at minimum on

790
00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:17,879
Speaker 3: that's joining the show is our good friend, Hamlin County

791
00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:19,520
Speaker 3: Commissioner Alisha Reese.

792
00:35:19,719 --> 00:35:20,680
Speaker 2: Welcome back. How are you.

793
00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:22,439
Speaker 7: I'm doing good?

794
00:35:22,640 --> 00:35:23,560
Speaker 8: Long Happy new.

795
00:35:23,520 --> 00:35:25,440
Speaker 3: Year, Happy new Year. I don't know if it's a

796
00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:29,360
Speaker 3: happy new year yet. And I'm looking at these numbers.

797
00:35:30,080 --> 00:35:31,799
Speaker 3: I got to be honest with you, I'm like, it's

798
00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:34,640
Speaker 3: making me blush. You know, a minimum eighty percent increase,

799
00:35:34,719 --> 00:35:38,360
Speaker 3: the optimal number would double that from sixty five million

800
00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:40,960
Speaker 3: to one hundred and twenty three million dollars. The ideal

801
00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:45,279
Speaker 3: funding levels one hundred and twenty three. That's Alicia. You know,

802
00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:48,000
Speaker 3: we've got you. You're out all the time. You talk about, hey,

803
00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:50,200
Speaker 3: you know the stadium thing and you're not getting your

804
00:35:50,239 --> 00:35:53,120
Speaker 3: money back from that, and then the property tax valuations.

805
00:35:53,160 --> 00:35:55,840
Speaker 3: And I also I look at all these things, the

806
00:35:55,920 --> 00:35:58,879
Speaker 3: cost of livings going through the roof as well. It's

807
00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:01,880
Speaker 3: never a good time to ind so levy. But boy,

808
00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:04,360
Speaker 3: you're not. I'm looking at this going this is a

809
00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:05,160
Speaker 3: tough ask.

810
00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:08,560
Speaker 8: Right now, no one, It definitely is.

811
00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:12,000
Speaker 7: I mean, it's the timing of doing something like this,

812
00:36:12,160 --> 00:36:14,040
Speaker 7: and one of the things we've got to do. I

813
00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:18,200
Speaker 7: wasn't on the commission, uh, you know, eight years ago. Uh.

814
00:36:18,239 --> 00:36:20,319
Speaker 7: But when I came on the commission, they said they

815
00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:23,839
Speaker 7: had combined two levies and at that time we would have,

816
00:36:24,160 --> 00:36:24,399
Speaker 7: you know.

817
00:36:24,440 --> 00:36:25,880
Speaker 8: Additional money.

818
00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:30,160
Speaker 7: And in twenty twenty four December had been asking about

819
00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:33,960
Speaker 7: how much money do we have in the reserves and

820
00:36:34,040 --> 00:36:36,879
Speaker 7: at that time is that they said one hundred.

821
00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:40,160
Speaker 8: Million dollars in reserves. That's twenty twenty four December.

822
00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:45,000
Speaker 7: Now you fast forward at twenty twenty five of December,

823
00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:48,000
Speaker 7: it was well, wait a minute, now we have a

824
00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:52,719
Speaker 7: thirty million dollars potential gap. Uh, in order to make

825
00:36:52,760 --> 00:36:55,600
Speaker 7: it and keep things going. Uh, And so I said,

826
00:36:55,640 --> 00:36:57,520
Speaker 7: wait a minute. You know, I'm going to ask what

827
00:36:57,600 --> 00:37:00,440
Speaker 7: the taxpayers are going to ask, how are did you

828
00:37:00,480 --> 00:37:00,759
Speaker 7: have one.

829
00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:02,760
Speaker 8: Hundred million dollars in reserves?

830
00:37:03,320 --> 00:37:08,719
Speaker 7: Now you're bankrupt almost and now just in time to

831
00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:11,960
Speaker 7: have a levee. And so I've been asking those questions

832
00:37:12,080 --> 00:37:15,279
Speaker 7: is people have asked me and the timing is just

833
00:37:15,440 --> 00:37:19,960
Speaker 7: the horrible you know. Number one, the reason there is

834
00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:23,279
Speaker 7: this children's services levee because we have unfunded mandates by

835
00:37:23,320 --> 00:37:26,000
Speaker 7: the states that we have to pay for this and

836
00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:28,680
Speaker 7: it'll come out of the general fund and those kind

837
00:37:28,719 --> 00:37:31,399
Speaker 7: of things if we don't have the levees. I call

838
00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:34,960
Speaker 7: it trickle down taxation from the state. They say we

839
00:37:35,040 --> 00:37:38,120
Speaker 7: cut at the state, but then mandate at the local

840
00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:43,239
Speaker 7: level to raise taxes. I am not convinced to move

841
00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:47,959
Speaker 7: toward more money right now, yet I want to get

842
00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:51,400
Speaker 7: all the information because I'm looking at the timing of this.

843
00:37:51,719 --> 00:37:56,840
Speaker 7: Homeowners are getting their tax bill. It's an increase on

844
00:37:56,960 --> 00:38:01,920
Speaker 7: property taxes. At the same time as you've vindicated, the

845
00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:04,359
Speaker 7: city is looking at if you live in the city

846
00:38:04,360 --> 00:38:07,640
Speaker 7: of Cincinnati, they're looking at an income tax increase. So

847
00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:11,319
Speaker 7: now your check is gonna get shorter at the same time,

848
00:38:11,440 --> 00:38:12,080
Speaker 7: your gas and.

849
00:38:12,080 --> 00:38:15,320
Speaker 8: Electric have gone up. Some people have tripled.

850
00:38:15,719 --> 00:38:20,400
Speaker 7: Water bills was an increase at the same time, and

851
00:38:21,160 --> 00:38:23,880
Speaker 7: a lot of people, some people have even lost their jobs,

852
00:38:23,920 --> 00:38:27,479
Speaker 7: have been forced into retirement. Inflation is there. It can't

853
00:38:27,520 --> 00:38:32,399
Speaker 7: go to the grocery store and buy anything because that's

854
00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:34,960
Speaker 7: jumping out the roof. And so we've got to look

855
00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:37,040
Speaker 7: at these things at timing and at the same time,

856
00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:41,160
Speaker 7: as government entities, we must look at everything, not in

857
00:38:41,239 --> 00:38:45,279
Speaker 7: a silo, but in general. In other words, we can't

858
00:38:45,360 --> 00:38:48,560
Speaker 7: look at the Bengals deal as a separate thing. And

859
00:38:48,600 --> 00:38:50,520
Speaker 7: we got money, and we can make it work and

860
00:38:50,560 --> 00:38:54,279
Speaker 7: we can get creative, which I voted against because it

861
00:38:54,440 --> 00:38:55,160
Speaker 7: cut out.

862
00:38:55,360 --> 00:38:56,759
Speaker 8: The homeowners getting a break.

863
00:38:57,160 --> 00:38:59,560
Speaker 7: Now on the other side, so we gave that deal

864
00:38:59,600 --> 00:39:02,560
Speaker 7: away with no break to the homeowners of thirty percent.

865
00:39:03,360 --> 00:39:05,719
Speaker 7: Now we come over here, and now you want to

866
00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:09,600
Speaker 7: say what the homeowner's got to pay it increase because

867
00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:12,560
Speaker 7: over here we don't have any money. And so I'm

868
00:39:12,680 --> 00:39:14,960
Speaker 7: one that don't think does not think that these are

869
00:39:14,960 --> 00:39:18,200
Speaker 7: two sets of different money, because they all are. You know,

870
00:39:18,239 --> 00:39:20,560
Speaker 7: that comes from sales tax and those kinds of things,

871
00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:23,279
Speaker 7: and we have to. We can't be over here said

872
00:39:23,360 --> 00:39:26,920
Speaker 7: no money, and then over here we're talking about arenas,

873
00:39:27,239 --> 00:39:31,239
Speaker 7: we're talking about eight hundred million dollars, potentially, idea on

874
00:39:31,320 --> 00:39:35,120
Speaker 7: the bank. We're talking all these things on here. But

875
00:39:35,160 --> 00:39:37,080
Speaker 7: then when it at the end, you say, I want

876
00:39:37,080 --> 00:39:41,360
Speaker 7: the taxpayers, the homeowners who barely can make it to

877
00:39:41,440 --> 00:39:44,400
Speaker 7: pay for everything, and we get to them, we're broken.

878
00:39:44,560 --> 00:39:47,680
Speaker 2: But we need to develop that arenas.

879
00:39:48,160 --> 00:39:50,759
Speaker 3: Ye arenas, they bring money and we we you know,

880
00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:53,000
Speaker 3: we need that outside money to come here, Convention Center,

881
00:39:53,080 --> 00:39:53,600
Speaker 3: all that stuff.

882
00:39:53,600 --> 00:39:55,600
Speaker 2: That's good. That's how you increase the tax base and

883
00:39:55,800 --> 00:39:56,480
Speaker 2: produce the brank.

884
00:39:57,880 --> 00:40:00,560
Speaker 7: I agree. I agree that we want money to come in,

885
00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:03,120
Speaker 7: but when we have the money that comes in, I'm

886
00:40:03,120 --> 00:40:06,040
Speaker 7: looking where it's going. I mean, we're doing things and

887
00:40:06,080 --> 00:40:08,480
Speaker 7: it's not going to help us. I'm or you know,

888
00:40:08,560 --> 00:40:10,960
Speaker 7: I'm tourism former assistant director for.

889
00:40:10,960 --> 00:40:12,120
Speaker 8: The whole state and everything.

890
00:40:12,320 --> 00:40:14,960
Speaker 7: Those dollars should be going in to reduce the cost

891
00:40:15,040 --> 00:40:18,320
Speaker 7: on the homeowners. Those dollars don't do that. Those dollars

892
00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:21,799
Speaker 7: come in and now we're on another development and then

893
00:40:21,840 --> 00:40:24,640
Speaker 7: they don't have to pay taxes. It's an abatement, it's

894
00:40:24,640 --> 00:40:28,040
Speaker 7: a you know free, we're taxing everybody, but nothing. I'm

895
00:40:28,040 --> 00:40:30,360
Speaker 7: looking at the pot. I'm thinking the same thing you're thinking.

896
00:40:30,680 --> 00:40:33,000
Speaker 7: We bring all this money in, it's to go over

897
00:40:33,040 --> 00:40:36,560
Speaker 7: here and now we'll help the homeowners and the local people.

898
00:40:36,640 --> 00:40:39,799
Speaker 7: But it doesn't do that because we haven't put our

899
00:40:39,800 --> 00:40:42,439
Speaker 7: foot down to make sure that it does that. There's

900
00:40:42,440 --> 00:40:45,279
Speaker 7: these dollars, these oh we if we do this, this

901
00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:48,560
Speaker 7: Bengal deal, we could have got I think, a better

902
00:40:48,640 --> 00:40:51,759
Speaker 7: deal and gotten where the homeowners wouldn't have had to

903
00:40:51,760 --> 00:40:53,120
Speaker 7: be written out of the deal.

904
00:40:53,480 --> 00:40:54,200
Speaker 8: But we did it.

905
00:40:54,560 --> 00:40:57,799
Speaker 7: So we've got to be more intentional. And that's my fight.

906
00:40:57,960 --> 00:41:01,480
Speaker 7: My fight is we can't look at these is siloed

907
00:41:01,480 --> 00:41:04,040
Speaker 7: because if I'm grandma with my house and I look

908
00:41:04,120 --> 00:41:06,600
Speaker 7: and see in the newspaper that you got a you know,

909
00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:10,360
Speaker 7: a three hundred and fifty million dollar deal with to

910
00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:12,799
Speaker 7: take for example, the Bengals deal, we wanted to have

911
00:41:12,840 --> 00:41:16,160
Speaker 7: some state money so we can reduce our money, so

912
00:41:16,200 --> 00:41:19,040
Speaker 7: we can have the homeowners. Guess what, we didn't get that.

913
00:41:19,160 --> 00:41:21,240
Speaker 7: Now they're saying, we're going to go for state money.

914
00:41:21,280 --> 00:41:24,560
Speaker 7: And I asked the administrator, if we get this state money,

915
00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:27,600
Speaker 7: will that reduce the cost. So now we can give

916
00:41:27,640 --> 00:41:30,080
Speaker 7: the homeowners a big break. He said, no, that we

917
00:41:30,120 --> 00:41:32,320
Speaker 7: would have to do matching money.

918
00:41:32,360 --> 00:41:33,360
Speaker 8: That's more money.

919
00:41:33,880 --> 00:41:35,920
Speaker 7: So if we go to state, now there's more money.

920
00:41:35,960 --> 00:41:40,520
Speaker 7: So there hasn't been enough intentionality saying every deal we

921
00:41:40,640 --> 00:41:46,160
Speaker 7: must leverage in order to cut the cost on the

922
00:41:46,239 --> 00:41:50,040
Speaker 7: local taxpayers. And that's what they're not seeing. They're not

923
00:41:50,200 --> 00:41:53,759
Speaker 7: seeing that that is happening, and so unfortunately, well we're

924
00:41:53,760 --> 00:41:56,960
Speaker 7: in this situation. But let me just say, in Adams

925
00:41:57,000 --> 00:41:59,600
Speaker 7: County it went to the ballot children, and these are

926
00:41:59,600 --> 00:42:01,920
Speaker 7: people normally vote for it. I mean, like you said,

927
00:42:02,280 --> 00:42:05,000
Speaker 7: Adams County, they said they couldn't afford it. They voted

928
00:42:05,040 --> 00:42:09,160
Speaker 7: it down. Claremont County said they couldn't afford they voted it.

929
00:42:09,800 --> 00:42:11,880
Speaker 7: So we're in a situation. Yeah, we're in a situation

930
00:42:11,920 --> 00:42:14,240
Speaker 7: where people don't want to make that choice, but they're

931
00:42:14,239 --> 00:42:17,600
Speaker 7: making choices between do I save my house, do I

932
00:42:17,640 --> 00:42:21,440
Speaker 7: be about my groceres, my medicine because they keep putting

933
00:42:21,520 --> 00:42:24,799
Speaker 7: taxes on top of them and the costs keeps going up.

934
00:42:25,719 --> 00:42:29,200
Speaker 2: You're not selling this vote for it.

935
00:42:29,239 --> 00:42:34,480
Speaker 7: If this thing fails, I'm saying, well, well, one of

936
00:42:34,520 --> 00:42:36,600
Speaker 7: the things that we're looking at, Plan a is. I

937
00:42:36,719 --> 00:42:40,120
Speaker 7: told them, minister, let's come and be creative and see

938
00:42:40,160 --> 00:42:43,880
Speaker 7: have we looked at everything to be creative, not do

939
00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:47,880
Speaker 7: what we always been doing. Let's see what's what's available

940
00:42:47,960 --> 00:42:50,920
Speaker 7: to what would be the level? You know most of

941
00:42:50,920 --> 00:42:54,120
Speaker 7: the time we put things on they've being flat.

942
00:42:54,520 --> 00:42:55,560
Speaker 8: What would be the level?

943
00:42:55,960 --> 00:42:59,080
Speaker 7: Uh. The other thing is going to the state seeing

944
00:42:59,200 --> 00:43:01,680
Speaker 7: you know, the governor can you help because this has

945
00:43:01,680 --> 00:43:04,319
Speaker 7: been a big thing and these are state mandates. So

946
00:43:04,360 --> 00:43:07,560
Speaker 7: for me, I want to comb everything first, is what

947
00:43:07,600 --> 00:43:10,040
Speaker 7: I'm saying. I'm not telling people not to vote. And

948
00:43:10,040 --> 00:43:13,520
Speaker 7: then the other thing is out there options. Can you

949
00:43:13,560 --> 00:43:16,600
Speaker 7: put options on a ballot? Can you put a B

950
00:43:16,760 --> 00:43:20,319
Speaker 7: and C on a ballot? Or do you only have

951
00:43:20,440 --> 00:43:23,080
Speaker 7: to do one number? You know what I'm saying. So

952
00:43:23,080 --> 00:43:25,080
Speaker 7: people say, well, wait a minute. I want to support it,

953
00:43:25,120 --> 00:43:27,080
Speaker 7: but I can't go to this level. But I could

954
00:43:27,120 --> 00:43:28,960
Speaker 7: go to this level, why I wait till it get

955
00:43:29,040 --> 00:43:32,480
Speaker 7: voted down and then come back with a smaller level.

956
00:43:32,719 --> 00:43:34,799
Speaker 7: So I don't know what those are, but I said,

957
00:43:35,080 --> 00:43:38,960
Speaker 7: these are difficult and different times, so we have to

958
00:43:39,000 --> 00:43:42,160
Speaker 7: think differently. So we definitely got to support our children.

959
00:43:43,040 --> 00:43:47,080
Speaker 7: I've certainly have been about that youth employment and foster

960
00:43:47,280 --> 00:43:50,280
Speaker 7: care and those kinds of things. But I also think

961
00:43:50,400 --> 00:43:54,400
Speaker 7: that we've got to come up with some other solutions

962
00:43:54,480 --> 00:43:59,920
Speaker 7: because what's happening with the foster care the providers are

963
00:44:00,160 --> 00:44:03,040
Speaker 7: charging us out the roofs now and they're they're not

964
00:44:03,120 --> 00:44:06,359
Speaker 7: even doing RFPs with us. They just sit back and say,

965
00:44:06,400 --> 00:44:08,319
Speaker 7: you know you're desperate, you're gonna come to us, and

966
00:44:08,360 --> 00:44:11,520
Speaker 7: now we're gonna price gal And so what are we

967
00:44:11,600 --> 00:44:14,759
Speaker 7: gonna do about the price galage? Because it's not If

968
00:44:14,800 --> 00:44:17,920
Speaker 7: we can't stop the bleeding, it's gonna continue to go up,

969
00:44:18,280 --> 00:44:21,000
Speaker 7: up and up. So I'm looking for us to put

970
00:44:21,040 --> 00:44:23,400
Speaker 7: all our thinking caps on and look at the what

971
00:44:23,560 --> 00:44:26,920
Speaker 7: is the best way, But take everything into consideration is

972
00:44:26,960 --> 00:44:31,000
Speaker 7: what I'm saying. Everything into consideration and put it together

973
00:44:31,239 --> 00:44:33,440
Speaker 7: and uh, let's see where we go from there. But

974
00:44:33,520 --> 00:44:35,520
Speaker 7: that's you know, we're in a tough spot right now.

975
00:44:36,520 --> 00:44:38,600
Speaker 7: But we've got to think it through because I would

976
00:44:38,640 --> 00:44:41,239
Speaker 7: hate for it. You know, what happened in Adams County

977
00:44:41,239 --> 00:44:43,440
Speaker 7: would happen in Claremont County. But if for us that

978
00:44:43,520 --> 00:44:46,040
Speaker 7: you go back to the drawing board. So my thing is,

979
00:44:46,080 --> 00:44:47,759
Speaker 7: let's don't go back to the drawing board. Let's go

980
00:44:47,840 --> 00:44:51,040
Speaker 7: to the drawing board now and try to see if

981
00:44:51,040 --> 00:44:53,320
Speaker 7: we could come with something that would be a more balance.

982
00:44:54,640 --> 00:44:57,960
Speaker 3: Alicia Reese, we've seen this happen before in the county

983
00:44:57,960 --> 00:44:59,600
Speaker 3: but also well as the city pretty much everywhere is

984
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:01,520
Speaker 3: all right, you weren't around, you were in an office

985
00:45:01,520 --> 00:45:05,279
Speaker 3: in twenty eighteen when this was last passed. Why did

986
00:45:05,320 --> 00:45:08,359
Speaker 3: the county wait until the cost became so unsustainable rather

987
00:45:08,400 --> 00:45:10,480
Speaker 3: than pursuing smaller, more frequent increases.

988
00:45:10,520 --> 00:45:12,040
Speaker 2: And you know, if.

989
00:45:11,960 --> 00:45:14,399
Speaker 3: We are we just going to do this every year,

990
00:45:14,440 --> 00:45:16,200
Speaker 3: and are we going to come back another ten years

991
00:45:16,200 --> 00:45:18,040
Speaker 3: and go, oh, we need to triple it now? I mean,

992
00:45:18,600 --> 00:45:20,440
Speaker 3: why not put this on the ballot sooner?

993
00:45:21,760 --> 00:45:23,960
Speaker 7: You know, those was a very good question. I mean

994
00:45:24,000 --> 00:45:26,919
Speaker 7: those are questions that I would I have, and that.

995
00:45:26,840 --> 00:45:27,800
Speaker 8: We have to look at you.

996
00:45:27,920 --> 00:45:30,399
Speaker 7: But I think people didn't want to have to vote

997
00:45:30,440 --> 00:45:33,760
Speaker 7: on levees every single year. We have other levees as well.

998
00:45:34,719 --> 00:45:37,839
Speaker 7: We've got the uh, you know, we've got the hospital levee, right,

999
00:45:38,200 --> 00:45:40,200
Speaker 7: We've got a number of other levees. And I don't

1000
00:45:40,200 --> 00:45:41,920
Speaker 7: I don't think you know you're going to be on

1001
00:45:41,960 --> 00:45:47,560
Speaker 7: the ballot every year with a levee. But I also

1002
00:45:47,680 --> 00:45:51,760
Speaker 7: think that we've got to look at this rising cost

1003
00:45:52,280 --> 00:45:57,719
Speaker 7: price gouging if you will, of those facilities where we

1004
00:45:57,840 --> 00:46:01,719
Speaker 7: have to you know, place the chill in those facilities.

1005
00:46:02,080 --> 00:46:04,600
Speaker 7: But we got to do something about this price gouging.

1006
00:46:04,640 --> 00:46:08,239
Speaker 7: And that's why I think the governor and uh you know,

1007
00:46:08,560 --> 00:46:12,600
Speaker 7: possibly you know, the governor Attorney general to all get

1008
00:46:12,640 --> 00:46:15,760
Speaker 7: in place, because this is not just the Hamilton County problem.

1009
00:46:15,840 --> 00:46:19,799
Speaker 7: This is around the whole state of Ohio. And if

1010
00:46:19,800 --> 00:46:22,360
Speaker 7: we keep going in this way where you know, supplying

1011
00:46:22,440 --> 00:46:27,680
Speaker 7: demand right, it's going to really it's going to you know,

1012
00:46:27,840 --> 00:46:31,200
Speaker 7: bankrupt the taxpayers. And so that's why I want us

1013
00:46:31,239 --> 00:46:34,359
Speaker 7: to not just hey, we're putting a levee on, let's

1014
00:46:34,360 --> 00:46:37,400
Speaker 7: talk about how like you said, let's get some new ways,

1015
00:46:37,440 --> 00:46:40,040
Speaker 7: some new ideas, let's get some help from the state.

1016
00:46:40,680 --> 00:46:43,200
Speaker 7: Uh So when we do have something, we could tell

1017
00:46:43,239 --> 00:46:45,960
Speaker 7: the taxpayers that hey, this is not something that's gonna

1018
00:46:46,440 --> 00:46:47,360
Speaker 7: just keep them.

1019
00:46:48,239 --> 00:46:50,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, it's a it's a tough ask.

1020
00:46:50,400 --> 00:46:52,000
Speaker 3: But at the same time, I think most of us

1021
00:46:52,040 --> 00:46:54,960
Speaker 3: are pretty empathetic towards us because we have kids, young,

1022
00:46:55,000 --> 00:46:56,799
Speaker 3: young kids who you know, you're born in this world,

1023
00:46:56,800 --> 00:46:58,440
Speaker 3: you don't get to choose how your parents are, your

1024
00:46:58,480 --> 00:47:01,359
Speaker 3: economic situation. We have no say that, and they are

1025
00:47:01,480 --> 00:47:04,920
Speaker 3: entering care with more intensive mental health problems, more behavioral issues,

1026
00:47:04,920 --> 00:47:08,840
Speaker 3: more developmental needs. The cases from the case because I

1027
00:47:08,880 --> 00:47:10,960
Speaker 3: talked to are getting more severe. There's an increase in

1028
00:47:11,040 --> 00:47:14,200
Speaker 3: total case load, and so the whole system, it's not

1029
00:47:14,239 --> 00:47:16,320
Speaker 3: just one air. It seems like the whole system is strained,

1030
00:47:16,320 --> 00:47:18,640
Speaker 3: and we got to figure out a way to fund that.

1031
00:47:20,120 --> 00:47:20,319
Speaker 1: Well.

1032
00:47:20,840 --> 00:47:24,280
Speaker 7: I definitely agree with you. I mean, these are innocent

1033
00:47:24,719 --> 00:47:29,640
Speaker 7: children who you know, it's not on them, and that's

1034
00:47:29,640 --> 00:47:32,359
Speaker 7: why I don't want to have a put the taxpayers

1035
00:47:32,360 --> 00:47:35,400
Speaker 7: in a position because we've had people that have been supportive.

1036
00:47:35,440 --> 00:47:39,440
Speaker 7: I mean, we've supported this. I feel like our county

1037
00:47:39,520 --> 00:47:42,640
Speaker 7: has been you know, we've always been one to step up.

1038
00:47:43,560 --> 00:47:47,560
Speaker 7: We want children to have a fair chance. Children are

1039
00:47:47,560 --> 00:47:52,000
Speaker 7: not born in equal circumstances, but we don't want to

1040
00:47:52,080 --> 00:47:57,120
Speaker 7: put the homeowner in that position. And that's what I'm

1041
00:47:57,120 --> 00:47:59,480
Speaker 7: trying to do because I'm hearing from people that they

1042
00:47:59,520 --> 00:48:03,759
Speaker 7: have normal support this and everything else. But I can't survive,

1043
00:48:04,400 --> 00:48:07,359
Speaker 7: and so we've got to have some kind of a

1044
00:48:07,440 --> 00:48:12,840
Speaker 7: balance so that the people who are allies don't become adversaries.

1045
00:48:13,360 --> 00:48:15,880
Speaker 7: And that's what I think we got to show that

1046
00:48:15,960 --> 00:48:19,600
Speaker 7: we've looked at everything. We trying something different where we

1047
00:48:19,880 --> 00:48:22,239
Speaker 7: we we've we've talked to it. We've got try to

1048
00:48:22,239 --> 00:48:25,080
Speaker 7: get the state involved where we're dealing with this price

1049
00:48:25,200 --> 00:48:29,759
Speaker 7: gouging of some of the placement areas that have you know,

1050
00:48:29,920 --> 00:48:32,719
Speaker 7: went up on not everybody, but there's some that have

1051
00:48:32,960 --> 00:48:35,840
Speaker 7: went skyrocketed. And that's how we went from one hundred

1052
00:48:35,880 --> 00:48:40,480
Speaker 7: million dollars in one year of one hundred million dollars

1053
00:48:40,480 --> 00:48:43,160
Speaker 7: that we had in reserve in one year. So now

1054
00:48:43,680 --> 00:48:47,600
Speaker 7: you know we're rope in terms of that. So we

1055
00:48:47,600 --> 00:48:50,640
Speaker 7: we've got to do something about that problem as well.

1056
00:48:51,280 --> 00:48:53,600
Speaker 7: And then I don't think it's just solved with just

1057
00:48:53,800 --> 00:48:56,840
Speaker 7: Jeff's the levee. We've got to now come with you know,

1058
00:48:56,880 --> 00:48:57,319
Speaker 7: here are.

1059
00:48:57,239 --> 00:48:59,920
Speaker 8: Some new parameters.

1060
00:48:59,239 --> 00:49:02,120
Speaker 7: Or some new things, like you said, so it just

1061
00:49:02,160 --> 00:49:03,560
Speaker 7: does a balloon out of control.

1062
00:49:04,640 --> 00:49:06,520
Speaker 3: How do you stay ahead of inflation? And that's the

1063
00:49:06,560 --> 00:49:08,440
Speaker 3: thing is, uh, you know, we'll pay for this, but

1064
00:49:08,680 --> 00:49:12,360
Speaker 3: in short term, you know that's the budget's going to

1065
00:49:12,400 --> 00:49:16,320
Speaker 3: shrink anyway because of inflation out stabilizing some degree, but

1066
00:49:16,400 --> 00:49:19,400
Speaker 3: seems like the cost of everything is going on is

1067
00:49:19,640 --> 00:49:21,399
Speaker 3: that also the reason for the big ask here.

1068
00:49:23,360 --> 00:49:27,440
Speaker 7: Well, inflation is. But my understanding is that some of

1069
00:49:27,480 --> 00:49:31,440
Speaker 7: the providers and the care that we need, they around

1070
00:49:31,480 --> 00:49:33,919
Speaker 7: the state. This is a problem around the state. They

1071
00:49:34,120 --> 00:49:37,799
Speaker 7: skyrocketed their prices, you know what I'm saying, And we

1072
00:49:37,840 --> 00:49:41,120
Speaker 7: didn't have a choice. So either you take it or

1073
00:49:41,200 --> 00:49:44,240
Speaker 7: leave it. And those were the things that I understand.

1074
00:49:44,239 --> 00:49:47,200
Speaker 7: The consultants he had, the consultant, I don't know if

1075
00:49:47,200 --> 00:49:51,239
Speaker 7: he received the consultants had factored in some inflation. You know,

1076
00:49:51,280 --> 00:49:54,120
Speaker 7: you always cost the living, but they hadn't factored in

1077
00:49:54,239 --> 00:49:59,120
Speaker 7: that these providers that would not participate in the RFP

1078
00:49:59,320 --> 00:50:02,000
Speaker 7: process would sit back and say they got to come

1079
00:50:02,040 --> 00:50:05,520
Speaker 7: to us. And then when the county came to them,

1080
00:50:05,560 --> 00:50:07,400
Speaker 7: they said, this is the price, take it or lead it.

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Speaker 7: They didn't factory was going to be that high. So

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Speaker 7: I think inflation is something that I mean, of course

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Speaker 7: you can't say how hot the inflation it's going to be,

1084
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Speaker 7: but it is factored in. We've got to kill our

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Speaker 7: c group, and they do factor in some inflationary costs.

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Speaker 7: But what was in factored in is I mean, these

1087
00:50:25,600 --> 00:50:31,080
Speaker 7: costs were astronomical and it was no choice because we

1088
00:50:31,120 --> 00:50:36,440
Speaker 7: are mandated to place the children in the care and

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Speaker 7: they might be the only game in town you got

1090
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Speaker 7: me or around and it's not just in town, and

1091
00:50:41,280 --> 00:50:44,120
Speaker 7: they're seeing that across the whole state. And so that's

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Speaker 7: why I think it's important that the governor intervened and

1093
00:50:46,719 --> 00:50:50,440
Speaker 7: maybe Attorney General to see is their price gouging going

1094
00:50:50,480 --> 00:50:54,440
Speaker 7: on at the expense of helping our children.

1095
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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, if only we could have got more

1096
00:50:56,640 --> 00:50:58,880
Speaker 3: than the twenty five percent with the e Bengal Stadium

1097
00:50:58,880 --> 00:51:03,400
Speaker 3: deal from the team, they're a build up more money here, right.

1098
00:51:03,800 --> 00:51:06,239
Speaker 7: We got four percent only and if we could have

1099
00:51:06,280 --> 00:51:08,439
Speaker 7: got that, maybe the thirty percent could have helped.

1100
00:51:08,440 --> 00:51:08,840
Speaker 2: My money.

1101
00:51:09,040 --> 00:51:13,040
Speaker 7: Every bit help and every deal we look at. We've

1102
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Speaker 7: got to try to leverage every single deal because from

1103
00:51:17,320 --> 00:51:19,960
Speaker 7: a messaging standpoint, people are out there saying, well, wait

1104
00:51:19,960 --> 00:51:22,319
Speaker 7: a minute, you just did this over here and you

1105
00:51:22,320 --> 00:51:24,799
Speaker 7: couldn't give me a homeowner a break, And now over

1106
00:51:24,840 --> 00:51:27,160
Speaker 7: here you're gonna raise it over here, and then over

1107
00:51:27,200 --> 00:51:30,399
Speaker 7: here you're coming after my check with income tax. Wait

1108
00:51:30,440 --> 00:51:32,000
Speaker 7: a minute, now, Yeah.

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00:51:31,800 --> 00:51:33,640
Speaker 3: Because I had Seth I had Seth Walsho on at

1110
00:51:33,719 --> 00:51:37,560
Speaker 3: nine this morning talking about the city income tax increase

1111
00:51:37,600 --> 00:51:39,040
Speaker 3: as well. And you live in Hamlin County. If you

1112
00:51:39,040 --> 00:51:40,719
Speaker 3: live in the city, also live in Hamlin County. So

1113
00:51:40,760 --> 00:51:42,880
Speaker 3: here it's coming at you with both barrels. She is

1114
00:51:43,040 --> 00:51:46,400
Speaker 3: uh Alicia Reese on the show on seven hundred WW

1115
00:51:46,440 --> 00:51:49,120
Speaker 3: Hamlin County Commissioner. Next step is going to be figuring

1116
00:51:49,120 --> 00:51:51,440
Speaker 3: out whether this goes on the spring of the fall ballot.

1117
00:51:51,440 --> 00:51:53,680
Speaker 3: We'll pick up that conversation then you'd be well, thanks

1118
00:51:53,719 --> 00:51:54,680
Speaker 3: for jumping on this morning.

1119
00:51:55,840 --> 00:51:58,680
Speaker 7: Oh yeah, I appreciate it. And again, like I said,

1120
00:51:58,680 --> 00:52:01,440
Speaker 7: this is something that we need. So we need the governor,

1121
00:52:01,480 --> 00:52:03,720
Speaker 7: we need to turn in general, we've got to deal

1122
00:52:03,800 --> 00:52:07,760
Speaker 7: with the price gouging on the backs of our children

1123
00:52:08,280 --> 00:52:12,040
Speaker 7: and then creating this cost burden that comes all the

1124
00:52:12,120 --> 00:52:15,440
Speaker 7: way down to people who have been allies for children's

1125
00:52:15,440 --> 00:52:18,400
Speaker 7: services and now you're forcing them to make a choice

1126
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Speaker 7: between food on their table or helping our children. That's insane.

1127
00:52:23,120 --> 00:52:26,120
Speaker 7: And so I hope that we can get something worked

1128
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Speaker 7: out to help us with us.

1129
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Speaker 2: Yeah, fingers crossed. Be well, we'll talk on seon. Appreciate you,

1130
00:52:31,520 --> 00:52:32,200
Speaker 2: all right, thank you?

1131
00:52:32,239 --> 00:52:34,000
Speaker 3: All right, we'll get a news update and how about

1132
00:52:34,040 --> 00:52:36,920
Speaker 3: that and then just ahead it's Julie on the job.

1133
00:52:37,000 --> 00:52:40,400
Speaker 3: Julie Buki jumps in to talk about I wonder what

1134
00:52:40,400 --> 00:52:43,920
Speaker 3: we're talking. Oh, we're talking about the autoworker flipped off Trump,

1135
00:52:44,040 --> 00:52:46,640
Speaker 3: or Trump flipped off rather and because he said some

1136
00:52:46,719 --> 00:52:47,920
Speaker 3: unsavory things at the president.

1137
00:52:47,920 --> 00:52:49,759
Speaker 2: We'll get that next here seven hundred.

1138
00:52:52,480 --> 00:52:55,760
Speaker 5: Giving you a vocational leg up on everyone else.

1139
00:52:57,760 --> 00:52:59,160
Speaker 1: Here's our career, sir.

1140
00:53:00,760 --> 00:53:03,839
Speaker 3: Yeah, we kick around job stuff on Wednesday mornings. Here

1141
00:53:03,880 --> 00:53:06,800
Speaker 3: on seven hundred w Obody Scottsland Show. Julie Bouki jumping

1142
00:53:06,840 --> 00:53:09,880
Speaker 3: back in with the story of well, last week anyway,

1143
00:53:09,960 --> 00:53:14,120
Speaker 3: kind of a blip here Ford Motor Company now suspending TJ. Sabuelo,

1144
00:53:14,239 --> 00:53:17,680
Speaker 3: the guy who yelled at Trump as he was touring

1145
00:53:18,080 --> 00:53:22,040
Speaker 3: a Michigan truck. Factor there a pedophile predator, protect pedophile protector,

1146
00:53:22,040 --> 00:53:24,680
Speaker 3: I thinks when he yelled at Trump regarding the Epstein

1147
00:53:24,760 --> 00:53:29,000
Speaker 3: stuff and Trump Trump and Trump fashion flipped the guy off. Uh,

1148
00:53:29,239 --> 00:53:32,359
Speaker 3: President's fine, But the four year old line worker now

1149
00:53:32,520 --> 00:53:34,719
Speaker 3: has been suspended. Julie, welcome, How.

1150
00:53:34,640 --> 00:53:34,960
Speaker 5: Are you.

1151
00:53:36,520 --> 00:53:37,040
Speaker 1: Good morning?

1152
00:53:37,080 --> 00:53:39,319
Speaker 9: I promised to never flip you off, at least not

1153
00:53:39,600 --> 00:53:40,120
Speaker 9: to your face.

1154
00:53:40,160 --> 00:53:41,000
Speaker 2: Why wouldn't you do that?

1155
00:53:42,719 --> 00:53:43,839
Speaker 9: Yeah, I'd rather do it behind.

1156
00:53:43,840 --> 00:53:46,080
Speaker 5: It used to be.

1157
00:53:46,560 --> 00:53:48,879
Speaker 3: It used to be like a big deal, and now

1158
00:53:49,000 --> 00:53:51,160
Speaker 3: people do it all that, like there's you know, bumper

1159
00:53:51,200 --> 00:53:53,920
Speaker 3: stickers and T shirts. The President's doing it, so it's

1160
00:53:53,960 --> 00:53:57,319
Speaker 3: it's not as rebellious as it used to be. I mean,

1161
00:53:57,400 --> 00:53:59,359
Speaker 3: I say something you curse somebody had, and they flip

1162
00:53:59,440 --> 00:54:01,839
Speaker 3: you off as like why should we be offended? That's

1163
00:54:01,880 --> 00:54:03,480
Speaker 3: really not that offensive anymore, is it?

1164
00:54:05,239 --> 00:54:05,480
Speaker 6: You know?

1165
00:54:05,880 --> 00:54:06,279
Speaker 10: For sure?

1166
00:54:06,360 --> 00:54:09,160
Speaker 9: I mean when you look at just how common the

1167
00:54:09,280 --> 00:54:13,399
Speaker 9: F bomb is, Yeah, yeah, I mean we definitely when

1168
00:54:13,440 --> 00:54:15,680
Speaker 9: it comes to language, when it comes to that sort

1169
00:54:15,680 --> 00:54:19,080
Speaker 9: of activity, we've definitely course. Then there's there's no doubt.

1170
00:54:19,360 --> 00:54:24,839
Speaker 9: I think that Ford was embarrassed by this guy who

1171
00:54:24,960 --> 00:54:29,440
Speaker 9: decided that he would shout out at the president.

1172
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Speaker 2: And I'm good with all of it, quite honestly.

1173
00:54:32,400 --> 00:54:34,520
Speaker 3: It's like, you know, you're a voter, you're an American,

1174
00:54:34,760 --> 00:54:37,560
Speaker 3: you're working at a truck factory. I expect guys to

1175
00:54:37,640 --> 00:54:41,240
Speaker 3: use course language in the uaw not when you're.

1176
00:54:41,120 --> 00:54:45,160
Speaker 9: Standing there on an official company event. I think that's

1177
00:54:45,239 --> 00:54:50,719
Speaker 9: the difference if you're walking down the street. Yes, so yeah,

1178
00:54:50,840 --> 00:54:53,600
Speaker 9: I mean, what do we talk about this so many times?

1179
00:54:54,239 --> 00:54:57,520
Speaker 9: Your freedom of speech? But it's not freedom from consequences.

1180
00:54:57,560 --> 00:54:59,200
Speaker 9: And you're walking on the street and you do it,

1181
00:54:59,360 --> 00:55:01,880
Speaker 9: that's one thing. If you're standing as a part of

1182
00:55:01,920 --> 00:55:07,000
Speaker 9: an official tour, official event, of course you're going to

1183
00:55:07,000 --> 00:55:09,560
Speaker 9: be embarrassing the company, and the company will take action.

1184
00:55:10,200 --> 00:55:12,440
Speaker 9: I think it's you know, and we talk about, well,

1185
00:55:12,480 --> 00:55:15,480
Speaker 9: should Trump have responded. I will tell you that in

1186
00:55:15,520 --> 00:55:20,360
Speaker 9: twenty twenty, Biden called somebody the horses behind on a

1187
00:55:20,440 --> 00:55:22,680
Speaker 9: tour when the guy did the same thing.

1188
00:55:22,880 --> 00:55:23,239
Speaker 5: And so.

1189
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Speaker 9: I think it's true that we we have Courson. But

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Speaker 9: I also think that and maybe this is just the

1191
00:55:30,239 --> 00:55:34,080
Speaker 9: boomer in me, and we also have to really I mean,

1192
00:55:34,360 --> 00:55:36,800
Speaker 9: I have to really think about is this what I

1193
00:55:36,840 --> 00:55:37,640
Speaker 9: want to be known for?

1194
00:55:38,480 --> 00:55:38,839
Speaker 1: Is this?

1195
00:55:39,000 --> 00:55:42,040
Speaker 9: What is this how I want to represent myself? And

1196
00:55:42,160 --> 00:55:45,960
Speaker 9: this guy said, I don't regret it. He also got

1197
00:55:46,000 --> 00:55:52,000
Speaker 9: a huge gofund me for hundreds of thousands of dollars. Yeah,

1198
00:55:52,040 --> 00:55:58,960
Speaker 9: so suspended or fired, he has a really big pot

1199
00:55:59,000 --> 00:56:02,400
Speaker 9: waiting for him go fund me. And we see that

1200
00:56:02,480 --> 00:56:05,719
Speaker 9: now on both sides. We see that in Minneapolis on

1201
00:56:05,840 --> 00:56:08,400
Speaker 9: both sides with you know, I'll go fund me.

1202
00:56:08,840 --> 00:56:09,719
Speaker 2: We saw that with a.

1203
00:56:09,640 --> 00:56:13,680
Speaker 3: Cop murderer here in Cincinnati, for God's sake, we do and.

1204
00:56:13,600 --> 00:56:15,799
Speaker 9: It's just it's I don't know. I mean, you live

1205
00:56:15,880 --> 00:56:19,279
Speaker 9: long enough and it's just fascinating to watch how things

1206
00:56:19,280 --> 00:56:25,399
Speaker 9: over time clutching. Oh I'm not pear clutching. Look, I

1207
00:56:25,440 --> 00:56:27,960
Speaker 9: think about Believe me, I have very strong opinions on

1208
00:56:28,080 --> 00:56:31,160
Speaker 9: all of this, but it's not my role. I don't

1209
00:56:31,320 --> 00:56:34,680
Speaker 9: share those things. I wouldn't do something in public because

1210
00:56:34,760 --> 00:56:38,719
Speaker 9: I think about what's the long term impact on my possibilities,

1211
00:56:38,760 --> 00:56:40,239
Speaker 9: my opportunities, my reputation.

1212
00:56:40,680 --> 00:56:41,319
Speaker 5: That's just me.

1213
00:56:41,840 --> 00:56:45,160
Speaker 9: And this guy said, I don't regret it, Okay. You

1214
00:56:45,239 --> 00:56:49,240
Speaker 9: know he doesn't regret it, okay. And the President doesn't

1215
00:56:49,280 --> 00:56:50,480
Speaker 9: regret it either, Okay.

1216
00:56:50,800 --> 00:56:53,839
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, Well, and that's where we are to take.

1217
00:56:54,400 --> 00:56:56,520
Speaker 2: If neither one was offended, it's okay.

1218
00:56:56,560 --> 00:56:58,600
Speaker 3: Then come on, now, you know this is your white

1219
00:56:58,640 --> 00:57:02,400
Speaker 3: collar you know you're working in HVAC Knights Climate Control

1220
00:57:02,520 --> 00:57:04,600
Speaker 3: building and you got your little coffee bar and I'm

1221
00:57:04,600 --> 00:57:06,840
Speaker 3: sure they have free Danish where you wore all that stuff.

1222
00:57:06,880 --> 00:57:07,840
Speaker 2: Your company's okay.

1223
00:57:07,960 --> 00:57:10,839
Speaker 3: I'm talking about hard scrabbled men and women that work

1224
00:57:10,880 --> 00:57:13,279
Speaker 3: for a living, blue collar workers, union workers that are

1225
00:57:13,280 --> 00:57:17,120
Speaker 3: out there hustling, working in factory building American cars. First

1226
00:57:17,120 --> 00:57:20,040
Speaker 3: of all, this is this language. Is what he said

1227
00:57:20,160 --> 00:57:23,160
Speaker 3: was a pedophile protector what exactly a curse word or

1228
00:57:23,160 --> 00:57:25,280
Speaker 3: any thing like that. A lot of people who voted

1229
00:57:25,280 --> 00:57:26,960
Speaker 3: for him, and maybe he was a Trump supporter, I

1230
00:57:27,000 --> 00:57:29,600
Speaker 3: don't know. That felt like, you know what the Epstein

1231
00:57:29,680 --> 00:57:32,240
Speaker 3: thing was. And there's a lot of people who voted

1232
00:57:32,240 --> 00:57:33,720
Speaker 3: for him saying, hey, he's going to out all these

1233
00:57:33,720 --> 00:57:35,000
Speaker 3: pedophiles and it didn't happen.

1234
00:57:35,000 --> 00:57:36,240
Speaker 2: He looks like he's protecting them.

1235
00:57:36,280 --> 00:57:38,480
Speaker 3: And so but you know, when you're the president and

1236
00:57:38,520 --> 00:57:40,800
Speaker 3: you show up, first of all, when you show up

1237
00:57:40,800 --> 00:57:44,200
Speaker 3: to a factory, you know that's the audience that you're playing.

1238
00:57:44,240 --> 00:57:46,480
Speaker 2: This is a bunch of bankers. This isn't P and G.

1239
00:57:46,680 --> 00:57:48,480
Speaker 3: I'd be with you on that one, but it's you know,

1240
00:57:48,560 --> 00:57:51,360
Speaker 3: people who build cars are a living, real real Americans

1241
00:57:51,840 --> 00:57:55,360
Speaker 3: in the heartland, and the president did the President did

1242
00:57:55,400 --> 00:57:56,880
Speaker 3: something that a lot of us do would just flip

1243
00:57:56,920 --> 00:57:59,360
Speaker 3: the guy off, and neither one was was that offended

1244
00:57:59,400 --> 00:58:01,760
Speaker 3: by it. But I also look at the context of

1245
00:58:01,800 --> 00:58:04,640
Speaker 3: where this doesn't matter that this happened in an assembly

1246
00:58:04,680 --> 00:58:06,520
Speaker 3: plant versus a boardroom.

1247
00:58:07,960 --> 00:58:11,720
Speaker 9: No, because whether you are a manager of accounting in

1248
00:58:11,760 --> 00:58:14,120
Speaker 9: one of the Ford offices, or you're on the line

1249
00:58:14,160 --> 00:58:17,000
Speaker 9: as a blue collar worker. Your paycheck comes from the

1250
00:58:17,000 --> 00:58:20,600
Speaker 9: same General Fund, and so you are still representing Ford.

1251
00:58:20,920 --> 00:58:22,959
Speaker 9: And that's why they felt like they had to take action.

1252
00:58:23,200 --> 00:58:26,760
Speaker 9: If they didn't, then I think that they would have

1253
00:58:27,080 --> 00:58:30,960
Speaker 9: the repercussion, maybe even from the administration, would have been

1254
00:58:31,000 --> 00:58:34,520
Speaker 9: a lot stronger. And so I think it's we're in

1255
00:58:34,760 --> 00:58:39,160
Speaker 9: the craziest time and that line between your work, your

1256
00:58:39,160 --> 00:58:42,000
Speaker 9: work persona, your work, everything about your work and everything

1257
00:58:42,040 --> 00:58:45,720
Speaker 9: about your personal life is because of social media, because

1258
00:58:45,760 --> 00:58:49,960
Speaker 9: of technology, there is no line anymore. And so I

1259
00:58:50,040 --> 00:58:55,720
Speaker 9: think we have to be extra cautious as individuals and say,

1260
00:58:56,560 --> 00:58:59,600
Speaker 9: is it look if I want a screen pedophile protector

1261
00:59:00,240 --> 00:59:04,520
Speaker 9: And I'm good with all the ramifications, okay, but I

1262
00:59:04,560 --> 00:59:06,880
Speaker 9: think we have to think. I always tell people think

1263
00:59:06,960 --> 00:59:09,840
Speaker 9: longer term than that think about and I say this

1264
00:59:09,960 --> 00:59:12,520
Speaker 9: when I see people get into political arguments on LinkedIn

1265
00:59:12,640 --> 00:59:15,320
Speaker 9: as an example, that's not meant to be a place

1266
00:59:15,360 --> 00:59:20,040
Speaker 9: to have political argument. I think you are potentially damaging

1267
00:59:20,360 --> 00:59:25,480
Speaker 9: or impacting at least half of your prospects by not

1268
00:59:25,760 --> 00:59:30,120
Speaker 9: knowing that this is an inappropriate place to have this conversation.

1269
00:59:30,760 --> 00:59:34,480
Speaker 9: Now does everyone believe that. No, But it's just I'm

1270
00:59:34,640 --> 00:59:38,120
Speaker 9: here to tell you how, I what I think and

1271
00:59:38,320 --> 00:59:40,240
Speaker 9: why I think. You've got to take the long and

1272
00:59:40,320 --> 00:59:44,240
Speaker 9: long term view with all of your behavior, both personally

1273
00:59:44,240 --> 00:59:49,200
Speaker 9: and professionally, because your conduct on either side can bleed

1274
00:59:49,280 --> 00:59:51,919
Speaker 9: over to the other side and can really limit your opportunities.

1275
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Speaker 1: Julie.

1276
00:59:53,040 --> 00:59:55,600
Speaker 3: The other factor here, the intermittigay factor, is the fact

1277
00:59:55,600 --> 00:59:59,600
Speaker 3: that mister Sibula is represented by the UAW. So you

1278
00:59:59,720 --> 01:00:02,000
Speaker 3: have it's a union, and so you have collective bargaining

1279
01:00:02,800 --> 01:00:04,600
Speaker 3: and they U should have stayed in the UAW did

1280
01:00:04,640 --> 01:00:06,720
Speaker 3: said that we believe in freedom of speech, a principle

1281
01:00:06,720 --> 01:00:09,000
Speaker 3: wholeheartedly we embrace and we stand with our membership and

1282
01:00:09,000 --> 01:00:11,960
Speaker 3: protecting their voice on their job. Sounds like the union

1283
01:00:12,000 --> 01:00:14,120
Speaker 3: is behind what this guy did. What does that ad

1284
01:00:14,120 --> 01:00:14,800
Speaker 3: a wrinkle the list?

1285
01:00:16,040 --> 01:00:16,560
Speaker 8: Well, I don't know.

1286
01:00:16,560 --> 01:00:18,520
Speaker 9: It depends on what their contract says, I mean, depends

1287
01:00:18,560 --> 01:00:23,760
Speaker 9: on what is protected under their contract. So yeah, and

1288
01:00:23,880 --> 01:00:25,840
Speaker 9: when you when you are when you are part of

1289
01:00:25,920 --> 01:00:28,760
Speaker 9: a union, you do have a bigger voice and you

1290
01:00:28,840 --> 01:00:32,680
Speaker 9: have other people speaking up on your behalf regardless, and

1291
01:00:32,760 --> 01:00:37,800
Speaker 9: so there is some benefit there. And so we'll see

1292
01:00:37,840 --> 01:00:40,000
Speaker 9: how this plays out. I think what's so interesting about

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Speaker 9: where we are right now. I attended an event where

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Speaker 9: attorneys we're talking about AI and social media and you

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Speaker 9: know what's legal? What's not legal? Is it is it

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Speaker 9: legal to fire somebody because of what they put on

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Speaker 9: social media? And these really smart attorneys collective answer was TBD.

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Speaker 9: We don't know it's playing out in the courts. And

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Speaker 9: so we're still in that We're in that place where

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Speaker 9: technology has taken over our lives, but we're not to

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Speaker 9: the point yet where we have really wrestled down what

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Speaker 9: does that actually mean? What's okay and what isn't? And

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Speaker 9: so the courts will weigh in on this over the

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Speaker 9: next couple of years, and it's just right now, we're

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Speaker 9: in the middle of the mess.

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Speaker 3: We are in the middle of the mess. Julie's on

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Speaker 3: this morning our career. Sure, but Julie Balki the Bauki

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Speaker 3: group about the worker at the UAW plant in Michigan,

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Speaker 3: Trump is touring there, yelled up pedophile protector and Trump

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Speaker 3: flipped them off and thought that was the end of it. Well,

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Speaker 3: this guy wound up getting suspended for a p I

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Speaker 3: don't know how long you do you know how long

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Speaker 3: you was suspended? A couple a couple hours is fine,

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Speaker 3: Just take a long launch.

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Speaker 2: We're good.

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Speaker 3: The other part of this thing too, isn't this more

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Speaker 3: political than it is job related stuff? But Republicans are

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Speaker 3: you know, I'm sure they're clutching their polls about these

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Speaker 3: saying to the off you can't talk to the president

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Speaker 3: that was so disrespectful. I mean, meanwhile, we have a

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Speaker 3: president that says far, far worse stuff on true social

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Speaker 3: seemingly every day. Democrats love this whole thing because it's

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Speaker 3: against Trump. But these are the same people who you know,

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Speaker 3: the woke culture censorship. But then well that's different. Well, no,

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Speaker 3: it's the same thing. So you know, there's a lot

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Speaker 3: of hypocrisy to go around in this situation.

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Speaker 9: There is there, always is, isn't there?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know just what kind of juice for it.

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Speaker 3: Why did Ford have to feel like that? You said

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Speaker 3: they felt like they had to do Why, well, then

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Speaker 3: just let it go with Typically in PR, it's like,

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Speaker 3: you know, if you don't call attention to it, it just

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Speaker 3: goes away. Now you're not making it go away, That's

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Speaker 3: what makes sense.

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Speaker 9: I'm sure that every PR person would say that they

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Speaker 9: had to make some sort of statement, and I'm sure

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Speaker 9: they're in their communications had put that statement together and

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Speaker 9: it was something like this was inconsistent with our values

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Speaker 9: as an organization. And that's probably because as a company

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Speaker 9: you have to think what are our shareholders going to say?

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Speaker 8: How about our board?

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Speaker 9: How about our customers? And so I think they had

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Speaker 9: to come out and say something. I think in this case,

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Speaker 9: because it was reported in the press, I think they

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Speaker 9: didn't have any choice but to say something. Sometimes silence

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Speaker 9: isn't the best response. Until they gave kind of a

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Speaker 9: you know, they hit the middle of the road and

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Speaker 9: tried to appease all the different parties. And what if

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Speaker 9: they hadn't done anything, would there have been repercussions from

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Speaker 9: the administrate, from the polical administration? We don't know, or

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Speaker 9: would it have been forgotten about? So I think they

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Speaker 9: they probably split the baby and did what they felt

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Speaker 9: like they had to do without going overboard.

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Speaker 2: We suspend, but no one knows how long the guy

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Speaker 2: was suspended. That's key.

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Speaker 3: Is it a week or like forty five minutes, like

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Speaker 3: ten minutes? Just take a we put you in time

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Speaker 3: out like a toddlinet.

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Speaker 2: Did you go in the time out.

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Speaker 9: You've got a big fat bank account of Yeah, it

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Speaker 9: was like that. How these gofundmes work?

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Speaker 11: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: I love it.

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Speaker 9: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Well the thing is the guy's like, well, damn, I

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Speaker 3: gotta do this dollar. I may just got to follow

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Speaker 3: around the apple. There's more money in that than it

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Speaker 3: is building cars these days. Yeah, it's like, well, you know,

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Speaker 3: does Ford Motor also invite this? You know, you have

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Speaker 3: someone and that's polarizing in this case President I it's

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Speaker 3: always President's always good to say Joe Biden's polarizing, Trump's polarizing.

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Speaker 3: Next president be polarizing. Doesn't this Are we in an

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Speaker 3: area now where this kind of goes to the territory, you.

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Speaker 9: Know it kind of does? I mean, look at all

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Speaker 9: the booing at public events when Trump's space is on

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Speaker 9: the square board regardless, I mean, it is more booing

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Speaker 9: than well.

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Speaker 3: Then there's people who are cheering. Depending on the event. Mean,

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Speaker 3: you go to a NASCAR race, it's different, right, depends.

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Speaker 9: Where you go, and you're not that's right, that's right,

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Speaker 9: And you're not gonna You're not going to chase down

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Speaker 9: every one of those people and try to get them

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Speaker 9: fired or start and goes on me for them. So

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Speaker 9: that's a different venue than than when you're when you

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Speaker 9: have a public when you have a formally scheduled event

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Speaker 9: with the press there, yeah, and one of your employees

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Speaker 9: embarrasses you. I mean, that's that's literally what it comes

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Speaker 9: down to. They felt like they had to do something

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Speaker 9: regardless of how they felt, and they all these big

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Speaker 9: companies have very carefully controlled and well bought up pr

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Speaker 9: and I'm sure this was a hastily called meeting in

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Speaker 9: which they looked at all sides and decided what they

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Speaker 9: had to do.

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Speaker 10: That was.

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Speaker 9: That was that hit the spot most without with offending

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Speaker 9: the least amount of people.

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Speaker 6: Put it that way.

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Speaker 2: All right, let's say this.

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Speaker 3: Okay, so I don't know, the President's US Bank arena

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Speaker 3: or pray something like that, and the cameras are all

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Speaker 3: over the place, and you know, it's pretty quilty of

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Speaker 3: a sudden nine Jack Crumbley from the newsroom screams out

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Speaker 3: something and it's like, oh my god, hey look at

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Speaker 3: that guy, or I don't know, it could be Julie Balki, Scotslain, whoever.

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Speaker 3: It's like, well, you know, the online world is going

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Speaker 3: to docks that person they're going to find out who

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Speaker 3: they are and they're going to start sweating their employer

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Speaker 3: because I booed someone at at at a rally. Now

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Speaker 3: does that do I wind up getting suspended losing my

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Speaker 3: job over that? I mean, it's a it's a it's

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Speaker 3: a that's a different thing. It's not the workplace, it's

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Speaker 3: a public event. Are we look what happened. We talked

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Speaker 3: about the you know, the atwork romance with the CEO

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Speaker 3: and the subbort the head of HR at the at

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Speaker 3: the concert right now wind up losing jobs and call

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Speaker 3: over that thing?

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Speaker 2: Is that the same thing? I mean?

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Speaker 3: Are now are we going to be censored to some

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Speaker 3: degree because hey, I may have a protest signed at

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Speaker 3: an event, regardless of what it might be, or somebody

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Speaker 3: sees that and identifies me, and now I could lose

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Speaker 3: my job because I disagree with someone and I'm exercise

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Speaker 3: in my First Amendment rights.

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Speaker 9: That is what is being litigated, and there are a

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Speaker 9: lot of cases wending their way through the court system

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Speaker 9: to answer just exactly that question. And so the answer

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Speaker 9: is we don't know. All we know is that from

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Speaker 9: a company standpoint, I think you have to have a

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Speaker 9: pretty clear social media policy. And so if you've got attorneys,

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Speaker 9: if you've got labor attorneys, you know, on your you know,

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Speaker 9: on your team, or you know, sort of as external advisors,

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Speaker 9: you need to get with them and get really clear

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Speaker 9: on what is your social media policy? How far can

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Speaker 9: you go? Because this is still being determined and it's

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Speaker 9: messy and I could argue both sides of it. And

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Speaker 9: so I think that's where we are.

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Speaker 3: I think we're in a society too many dan busybodies,

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Speaker 3: That's what I think. It's like, it's different. It's like, yeah,

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Speaker 3: it used to be like we don't okay, okay, yeah

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Speaker 3: you don't like this person or cause or okay, great,

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Speaker 3: and now we got to know root them out and

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Speaker 3: eliminate them. So a lot of people with a lot

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Speaker 3: of time in their hands.

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Speaker 2: I guess.

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Speaker 3: Julie Balki our career Ship on The Scott's Loan Show.

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Speaker 3: If you want to go on social media and start

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Speaker 3: haranguing people, you may want to consult her first. She's

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Speaker 3: at the Balki Group Bauke dot com. She and her

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Speaker 3: team ready to work for you, career coach consulting, et cetera.

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Speaker 3: She jumps on the show every Wednesday morning with Julie

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Speaker 3: on the job.

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Speaker 2: All the best.

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Speaker 3: We'll talk next week. Appreciate you. Let's do news. How

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Speaker 3: about that Trump is at Davos right now. I was

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Speaker 3: doing old Q and A. We'll have what that was about. Also,

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Speaker 3: weather forecast look a little dicey this week and especially

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Speaker 3: maybe a severe winter storm. Then again, maybe nothing, who knows.

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Speaker 3: We'll find out. Just ahead with news on seven hundred WW.

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Speaker 3: Sinccenat oh Man.

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Speaker 2: What ain't happening today?

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Speaker 3: Sloan here seven hundred W LW So Greenland is he

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Speaker 3: big story today and the President is threatening more terrorists

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Speaker 3: to the Europeans unless we get Greenland and American's closest

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Speaker 3: European allies. They have declared an end to the US

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Speaker 3: led global order, whatever that means. And this is going

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Speaker 3: to come to a head today. The President arrived in Davos, Switzerland,

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Speaker 3: earlier this morning for the World Economic Forum summit, where

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Speaker 3: he's going to speak. Presumably there's going to be some

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Speaker 3: sidebars going on where he's talking to other European leaders.

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Speaker 3: We'll find out what happens. Carl Delfeld is here. He

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Speaker 3: is the Independent Republican Senior FOLLO at the Center for

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Speaker 3: Economic Security, advised a Senate Finance committee, he's advised a

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Speaker 3: Treasury department, and now us here on seven hundred WW Carl,

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Speaker 3: welcome back, are.

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Speaker 1: You good morning, Good to be with you.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, crazy days here.

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Speaker 3: So you know the markets are markets are where they

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Speaker 3: are today, but we know we lost like eight hundred

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Speaker 3: and seventy points on this news. Mondays the Dollar Index,

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Speaker 3: which measures a dollar strength against the other world major currencies,

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Speaker 3: that fell by eight tenths of a percent, which is

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Speaker 3: doesn't sound like a lot, but in the currency markets,

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Speaker 3: that's a huge that's a that's that's an epic shift.

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Speaker 3: The dollar index had its worst day. I think that

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Speaker 3: since August, the euro is up zero point sixty five

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Speaker 3: percent against the dollar. You hear that our global investors

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Speaker 3: looking to reduce their exposure to the US because again,

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Speaker 3: money is scared of volatility, and we're pretty volatile right now.

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Speaker 3: And how long does this go and what's it mean

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Speaker 3: for the dollar long term?

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Speaker 10: Well, the dollar was off nine percent last year, and

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Speaker 10: I think the trend that that that sort of trend

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Speaker 10: will continue, in part because of what you just brought

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Speaker 10: up to kind of the geopolitical and financial risk. I mean,

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Speaker 10: our debt is approaching now forty trillion dollars. It probably

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Speaker 10: hit it by the end of the year. So just

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Speaker 10: you know, America's brand has always been dynamic stability, you know,

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Speaker 10: dynamic economy and culture in a stable political environment, and

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Speaker 10: that's under pressure.

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Speaker 1: Right now.

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Speaker 10: And that's why gold is doing so well. I mean,

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Speaker 10: if you wanted me to sum up what's going to

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Speaker 10: happen today, it's probably going to be another good day

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Speaker 10: for gold.

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Speaker 2: And bonds per well.

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Speaker 3: I am in that too, because we're wearing so much

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01:10:16,600 --> 01:10:20,960
Speaker 3: in debt now that looks like that's questionable too. Someone

1508
01:10:21,040 --> 01:10:23,599
Speaker 3: compared this to and I was just a child then,

1509
01:10:23,680 --> 01:10:25,800
Speaker 3: so maybe you can can shine light on this one.

1510
01:10:25,920 --> 01:10:28,719
Speaker 3: Nixon then was it seventy seventy one, seventy two somewhere

1511
01:10:28,720 --> 01:10:30,959
Speaker 3: around there, and it took us off the gold standard

1512
01:10:31,720 --> 01:10:33,479
Speaker 3: and that was a I guess a monu mil shift

1513
01:10:33,479 --> 01:10:35,479
Speaker 3: at that time. And we saw what happened in early seventies.

1514
01:10:35,520 --> 01:10:37,720
Speaker 3: You know, we had energy crissease and everything else. But

1515
01:10:38,360 --> 01:10:40,360
Speaker 3: take us back to seventy one and houses.

1516
01:10:40,000 --> 01:10:42,639
Speaker 1: Compare, Yeah, what's similar.

1517
01:10:42,680 --> 01:10:45,360
Speaker 10: I mean, the seventy one was a huge break because

1518
01:10:45,400 --> 01:10:48,800
Speaker 10: you had to bret wits agreements right after World War Two,

1519
01:10:49,360 --> 01:10:51,479
Speaker 10: when we set up the IMF and the World Bank,

1520
01:10:51,920 --> 01:10:56,519
Speaker 10: and basically we were by far we were the kingpin.

1521
01:10:57,320 --> 01:11:00,720
Speaker 10: Unimaginable even today. I mean, we had fifty percent of

1522
01:11:00,760 --> 01:11:04,799
Speaker 10: global trade, fifty percent of manufacturing, fifth percent of GDP.

1523
01:11:04,960 --> 01:11:05,559
Speaker 1: I mean, we were.

1524
01:11:05,920 --> 01:11:10,160
Speaker 10: So we basically used the dollar to boord of stabilize

1525
01:11:10,160 --> 01:11:13,280
Speaker 10: the financial system and try to get Europe in particular

1526
01:11:13,360 --> 01:11:16,040
Speaker 10: back on its feet in Japan and so on. So

1527
01:11:16,560 --> 01:11:18,760
Speaker 10: when that happened in seventy one, when the gold was

1528
01:11:18,840 --> 01:11:21,240
Speaker 10: just flying out of the door, and so John Connolly's

1529
01:11:21,320 --> 01:11:26,360
Speaker 10: Treasury secretary at that time the Texan he famously said

1530
01:11:26,360 --> 01:11:30,320
Speaker 10: to his cohorts the other finance ministers, it's our dollar

1531
01:11:30,479 --> 01:11:34,800
Speaker 10: and its year problem. So yeah, that was quite a shock,

1532
01:11:34,880 --> 01:11:38,639
Speaker 10: in particular to Japan, our allies like Japan. But today

1533
01:11:39,040 --> 01:11:41,720
Speaker 10: I think, well, we'll see what happens today. I think

1534
01:11:41,760 --> 01:11:45,439
Speaker 10: it's a very tricky situation because it's hard to see

1535
01:11:45,439 --> 01:11:52,320
Speaker 10: a face saving compromise that Trump would accept and that

1536
01:11:52,400 --> 01:11:57,920
Speaker 10: the Europeans, the NATO, the NATO, the EU, the.

1537
01:11:57,840 --> 01:11:59,560
Speaker 1: Twenty seven countries in EU.

1538
01:11:59,360 --> 01:12:02,880
Speaker 10: And thirty countries that NATO would accept as well. I

1539
01:12:02,920 --> 01:12:06,880
Speaker 10: don't think it's going to be settled during this short trip.

1540
01:12:06,920 --> 01:12:09,479
Speaker 10: I think they're going to punt and find some way

1541
01:12:09,520 --> 01:12:11,800
Speaker 10: to kind of deflect it down the road a little bit.

1542
01:12:12,880 --> 01:12:14,800
Speaker 1: But you know, this is.

1543
01:12:16,439 --> 01:12:20,519
Speaker 10: If the NATO basically crumble. In other words, if Trump

1544
01:12:20,600 --> 01:12:26,400
Speaker 10: took Greenland, either by force or by just just really

1545
01:12:26,560 --> 01:12:32,519
Speaker 10: leaning hard and disrupted NATO, the NATO alliance, I think

1546
01:12:32,560 --> 01:12:33,320
Speaker 10: it would be a kin.

1547
01:12:33,280 --> 01:12:34,559
Speaker 1: In nineteen seventy one.

1548
01:12:35,000 --> 01:12:38,880
Speaker 10: Because we don't realize how important Europe is to US.

1549
01:12:38,920 --> 01:12:42,240
Speaker 10: I mean, when we look at our alliance system, everybody says, well,

1550
01:12:42,280 --> 01:12:44,559
Speaker 10: US has such a great alliances, but when you really

1551
01:12:44,680 --> 01:12:49,720
Speaker 10: look at it carefully, it's Europe, it's Japan, and it's

1552
01:12:49,760 --> 01:12:52,280
Speaker 10: South Korea and Asia. I mean, I mean, we have

1553
01:12:52,320 --> 01:12:54,160
Speaker 10: a lot of other friends and allies, but those are

1554
01:12:54,200 --> 01:12:54,920
Speaker 10: the key ones.

1555
01:12:56,000 --> 01:13:00,400
Speaker 3: So yeah, yeah, I look at Carlin, like, you know,

1556
01:13:00,439 --> 01:13:02,840
Speaker 3: when Jade Vance said, I think he said that Europe

1557
01:13:02,880 --> 01:13:03,360
Speaker 3: is decaded.

1558
01:13:03,439 --> 01:13:04,720
Speaker 2: He's he's not wrong about that.

1559
01:13:05,520 --> 01:13:09,360
Speaker 3: You know, they they have migration problems, they suppressed free speech.

1560
01:13:10,000 --> 01:13:11,559
Speaker 3: I look at that, go it's not like, you know,

1561
01:13:11,960 --> 01:13:14,320
Speaker 3: Europe is just continuing to be Europe here and they're

1562
01:13:14,320 --> 01:13:17,720
Speaker 3: struggling to they're facing fertility crisis and everything else. And

1563
01:13:18,920 --> 01:13:20,640
Speaker 3: you know, we try to put in context why we

1564
01:13:20,680 --> 01:13:22,479
Speaker 3: want to acquire Greenland, and I have a lot of

1565
01:13:22,560 --> 01:13:25,000
Speaker 3: questions about that, but I don't think, you know, he's

1566
01:13:25,160 --> 01:13:27,040
Speaker 3: we're simply because Europe and then they get it, they're

1567
01:13:27,080 --> 01:13:28,519
Speaker 3: kind of stuck in the past to some degree.

1568
01:13:28,560 --> 01:13:30,599
Speaker 2: We don't want to do that. We continue to evolve.

1569
01:13:30,680 --> 01:13:34,600
Speaker 3: But at the same time, the EU is preparing to

1570
01:13:34,680 --> 01:13:36,679
Speaker 3: launch with this thing called a trade bazuka.

1571
01:13:36,760 --> 01:13:39,680
Speaker 2: What is that? What's it mean? And if implemented, what

1572
01:13:39,720 --> 01:13:41,160
Speaker 2: impacts I can have on us?

1573
01:13:41,920 --> 01:13:45,280
Speaker 10: Well, if you look at EU, he was, as I said,

1574
01:13:45,360 --> 01:13:49,000
Speaker 10: twenty seven countries, four hundred and fifty million people. So

1575
01:13:49,000 --> 01:13:52,200
Speaker 10: it's big, and it's a you know, these are developed economy,

1576
01:13:52,280 --> 01:13:57,320
Speaker 10: so sophisticated economy, right, they could be stronger, and you know,

1577
01:13:57,360 --> 01:14:00,160
Speaker 10: obviously they're behind the United States in some areas, but

1578
01:14:00,520 --> 01:14:05,599
Speaker 10: it's still pretty pretty sizable mass. So so basically our exports.

1579
01:14:05,600 --> 01:14:10,120
Speaker 10: For example, that's our biggest export market, bigger than Canada

1580
01:14:10,200 --> 01:14:13,120
Speaker 10: and Mexico combined. I mean, it's a big number. So

1581
01:14:13,880 --> 01:14:16,479
Speaker 10: what they what I what they're planing to do is

1582
01:14:16,560 --> 01:14:19,280
Speaker 10: I think put together you know, well over one hundred

1583
01:14:19,280 --> 01:14:25,200
Speaker 10: billion dollars of US exports to the EU and impede

1584
01:14:25,200 --> 01:14:28,880
Speaker 10: them in some way with the tariff for something. And

1585
01:14:29,240 --> 01:14:32,519
Speaker 10: I mean it's not nothing. I mean, I agree with

1586
01:14:32,560 --> 01:14:35,160
Speaker 10: you that Europe should be doing a lot better, and

1587
01:14:35,200 --> 01:14:37,920
Speaker 10: it's growth is it's sort of treading water, and it

1588
01:14:37,960 --> 01:14:40,479
Speaker 10: has problems. Of course, the Europeans will look back at

1589
01:14:40,520 --> 01:14:42,920
Speaker 10: US and say, well, we have problems, but you have

1590
01:14:42,960 --> 01:14:47,160
Speaker 10: problems too, So you know, everybody is struggling with certain issues.

1591
01:14:47,880 --> 01:14:52,720
Speaker 10: But I still think, I still think NATO is important

1592
01:14:53,080 --> 01:14:56,320
Speaker 10: and a rupture of it would be something. I tell

1593
01:14:56,320 --> 01:14:57,559
Speaker 10: you what was really surprising to.

1594
01:14:57,479 --> 01:14:59,479
Speaker 3: Be we need I mean, I get that, you know,

1595
01:14:59,520 --> 01:15:01,280
Speaker 3: I'm with you the European thing, but at the same time,

1596
01:15:01,280 --> 01:15:03,559
Speaker 3: it's like those are important allies in this world.

1597
01:15:03,600 --> 01:15:05,320
Speaker 2: You just can't simply go it alone.

1598
01:15:06,160 --> 01:15:09,559
Speaker 10: Right, especially with China. And I just finished my State

1599
01:15:09,600 --> 01:15:12,720
Speaker 10: of the US China Rivalry, and it's not pretty. I mean,

1600
01:15:12,880 --> 01:15:18,639
Speaker 10: China is gaining ground in the rivalry. Uh, and so

1601
01:15:18,840 --> 01:15:20,599
Speaker 10: we have to keep that in the back of our mind.

1602
01:15:20,920 --> 01:15:24,760
Speaker 10: Uh that uh, you know, because that's that is the

1603
01:15:25,680 --> 01:15:28,240
Speaker 10: that is the issue of the decade is US and

1604
01:15:28,400 --> 01:15:32,920
Speaker 10: China and anything we can do to improve our position

1605
01:15:33,080 --> 01:15:35,680
Speaker 10: viasa China is something we should do.

1606
01:15:36,080 --> 01:15:36,680
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1607
01:15:37,040 --> 01:15:37,200
Speaker 5: Uh.

1608
01:15:37,240 --> 01:15:40,160
Speaker 3: He is Carl Delfeld. He is a the Independent Republican.

1609
01:15:40,280 --> 01:15:42,920
Speaker 3: He's a fellow at the Center Freak Onomic Security. Also

1610
01:15:42,960 --> 01:15:45,639
Speaker 3: advised the Senate Finance Committee and the US Treasury Department

1611
01:15:45,680 --> 01:15:49,200
Speaker 3: and talking about Trump arriving in Davos, Switzerland, and we

1612
01:15:49,280 --> 01:15:52,160
Speaker 3: have trade wars and trade bazookahs, and of course this

1613
01:15:52,280 --> 01:15:54,719
Speaker 3: is all over whether or not we should take over Greenland,

1614
01:15:54,720 --> 01:15:56,760
Speaker 3: which to me is like I look at it, gok

1615
01:15:57,000 --> 01:15:58,840
Speaker 3: is that it could It could very well be an

1616
01:15:58,880 --> 01:16:03,360
Speaker 3: important military asset, an asset for mineral wealth and everything else. Yeah,

1617
01:16:03,400 --> 01:16:06,920
Speaker 3: but it belongs to Denmark. And you know, to me,

1618
01:16:07,000 --> 01:16:12,439
Speaker 3: it seems like Carl very simply is just keeping the

1619
01:16:12,520 --> 01:16:15,200
Speaker 3: Danes as allies have them pay for. I know, there's

1620
01:16:15,280 --> 01:16:19,559
Speaker 3: like sixty thousand people and the entire continent. I look

1621
01:16:19,560 --> 01:16:22,040
Speaker 3: at it and go, okay, well that's good for the Danes.

1622
01:16:22,560 --> 01:16:25,240
Speaker 3: I don't think that China Russia will invade because they

1623
01:16:25,240 --> 01:16:27,839
Speaker 3: know the United States is right there when we'll certainly

1624
01:16:27,840 --> 01:16:29,680
Speaker 3: go and defend that territory. So why do we need

1625
01:16:29,720 --> 01:16:32,200
Speaker 3: it anyway? We could strike mineral rights deals and everything else.

1626
01:16:32,240 --> 01:16:33,840
Speaker 3: We have an air force base or a space base

1627
01:16:33,880 --> 01:16:36,680
Speaker 3: there anyway, So why do we actually physically need to

1628
01:16:36,680 --> 01:16:37,040
Speaker 3: take it.

1629
01:16:38,600 --> 01:16:41,200
Speaker 10: Well, you make good points. The other thing to keep

1630
01:16:41,200 --> 01:16:45,840
Speaker 10: in mind is the fifty sixty thousand people there. They're

1631
01:16:45,920 --> 01:16:50,840
Speaker 10: Danish citizens, they vote in Danish elections, they go to

1632
01:16:50,880 --> 01:16:56,519
Speaker 10: school in Denmark, you know, to college and so on.

1633
01:16:57,080 --> 01:17:01,040
Speaker 10: So if they get free universal healthcare, they get free

1634
01:17:02,000 --> 01:17:08,439
Speaker 10: secondary and so they maybe wanted to become independent, but

1635
01:17:08,520 --> 01:17:12,040
Speaker 10: they're pretty happy with the situation with Danes. It's cost

1636
01:17:12,080 --> 01:17:14,320
Speaker 10: them about a billion dollars a year to subsidize those

1637
01:17:14,320 --> 01:17:15,360
Speaker 10: fifty thousand people.

1638
01:17:16,160 --> 01:17:20,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree with you. I mean, I think what

1639
01:17:21,000 --> 01:17:22,680
Speaker 1: I would prefer is that we do it.

1640
01:17:23,240 --> 01:17:28,160
Speaker 10: US has a lot of flexibility there, and so if

1641
01:17:28,160 --> 01:17:31,000
Speaker 10: we want to build it up there, we can. It's

1642
01:17:31,040 --> 01:17:34,320
Speaker 10: one area that the NATO could be very very positive

1643
01:17:34,640 --> 01:17:37,160
Speaker 10: because you know, the High North as they call it

1644
01:17:37,200 --> 01:17:43,360
Speaker 10: in military terms. Finland, Norway, Sweden, Iceland, Denmark, they all

1645
01:17:43,400 --> 01:17:49,040
Speaker 10: play pretty big roles up there. Canada too, So if

1646
01:17:49,080 --> 01:17:51,719
Speaker 10: we want to really push back against Russia and China,

1647
01:17:51,800 --> 01:17:57,280
Speaker 10: who are much more active in the Arctic region, we

1648
01:17:57,320 --> 01:17:57,720
Speaker 10: can do it.

1649
01:17:58,080 --> 01:17:59,679
Speaker 1: We can do it much better together.

1650
01:18:01,080 --> 01:18:04,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, Carl, I look at the situation Okay, we're fighting

1651
01:18:04,840 --> 01:18:06,760
Speaker 3: over Greenland right now. They're gonna hit We're gonna hit

1652
01:18:06,800 --> 01:18:09,240
Speaker 3: tariffs on them. They're gonna hit tteriffs back on us.

1653
01:18:09,479 --> 01:18:12,920
Speaker 3: New study came out from a long time, highly respected

1654
01:18:13,000 --> 01:18:16,519
Speaker 3: economic think tank. It shows ninety six percent of tariff

1655
01:18:16,560 --> 01:18:19,799
Speaker 3: costs over the last well year. Now, of this, ninety

1656
01:18:19,800 --> 01:18:23,439
Speaker 3: six percent of terra costs fall on American importers, and

1657
01:18:23,479 --> 01:18:26,800
Speaker 3: therefore consumers the Ford exporters are only absorb about four

1658
01:18:26,800 --> 01:18:29,320
Speaker 3: percent of this. So we have seen a two hundred

1659
01:18:29,320 --> 01:18:31,840
Speaker 3: billion dollar surge in customs revenue last year.

1660
01:18:32,320 --> 01:18:33,760
Speaker 2: Uh and that is almost entirely.

1661
01:18:33,840 --> 01:18:36,240
Speaker 3: Ninety six percent of that two hundred billion is paid

1662
01:18:36,240 --> 01:18:39,160
Speaker 3: for by Americans. And we're gonna up that ante a

1663
01:18:39,200 --> 01:18:42,400
Speaker 3: little bit, you know. And at the same time, I

1664
01:18:42,439 --> 01:18:45,519
Speaker 3: got it. You gotta say that, you know, we we

1665
01:18:45,800 --> 01:18:47,880
Speaker 3: the markets are looking at this going. Hey, inflation's kind

1666
01:18:47,880 --> 01:18:49,519
Speaker 3: of sticky right now, a lot of this, but we

1667
01:18:49,600 --> 01:18:53,439
Speaker 3: expect that to subside in the next year. So there's

1668
01:18:53,479 --> 01:18:55,840
Speaker 3: some damage done here. But the reality of what is

1669
01:18:55,880 --> 01:18:56,839
Speaker 3: this done to our economies?

1670
01:18:57,000 --> 01:18:57,559
Speaker 2: Is it working?

1671
01:18:59,240 --> 01:18:59,559
Speaker 1: Well?

1672
01:18:59,760 --> 01:19:03,600
Speaker 10: You look at the sharing I saw that study, and

1673
01:19:03,640 --> 01:19:06,000
Speaker 10: there's so many different studies. But even even if it's

1674
01:19:06,040 --> 01:19:08,479
Speaker 10: not ninety six percent. I mean, let's let's take the

1675
01:19:08,560 --> 01:19:11,280
Speaker 10: fifty to fifty. It's still a consumer tax. So it's

1676
01:19:11,280 --> 01:19:14,200
Speaker 10: all it's certainly going to be the higher prices. I

1677
01:19:14,240 --> 01:19:17,840
Speaker 10: saw that Amazon, the Amazon CEO said they're seeing prices

1678
01:19:18,120 --> 01:19:21,479
Speaker 10: creep up. So like in the beginning, the exporters might take,

1679
01:19:21,840 --> 01:19:24,240
Speaker 10: you know, a cut, you know, absorb a cut of

1680
01:19:24,280 --> 01:19:29,000
Speaker 10: that tariff, but as time goes on, they'll recede, so

1681
01:19:29,600 --> 01:19:32,439
Speaker 10: it's hard to argue that it's not a consumer tax

1682
01:19:32,520 --> 01:19:35,760
Speaker 10: and consumers. Now, the revenue is the thing that I

1683
01:19:35,800 --> 01:19:39,479
Speaker 10: find interesting because we're getting about thirty billion dollars or

1684
01:19:39,520 --> 01:19:43,200
Speaker 10: so of revenue, so that's three hundred and sixty billion

1685
01:19:43,200 --> 01:19:46,080
Speaker 10: dollars a year. That seems like a big number, but

1686
01:19:47,240 --> 01:19:50,000
Speaker 10: think about this in terms of our budget deficit, we're

1687
01:19:50,000 --> 01:19:54,960
Speaker 10: about two two trillion dollars. Of that over four hundred

1688
01:19:54,960 --> 01:19:58,400
Speaker 10: billion is just for the Department of Better Affairs, not

1689
01:19:58,880 --> 01:20:02,320
Speaker 10: for our defense budget, for the Department of Veteran Affairs

1690
01:20:02,400 --> 01:20:06,720
Speaker 10: until four hundred billion dollars a year. So sure, it's

1691
01:20:06,760 --> 01:20:08,919
Speaker 10: good to have a three hundred and sixty billion dollars,

1692
01:20:08,920 --> 01:20:12,559
Speaker 10: but if it's largely coming from Americans and it's not

1693
01:20:12,600 --> 01:20:16,120
Speaker 10: even covered covering the Department of Veterans Affairs. To me,

1694
01:20:16,200 --> 01:20:17,639
Speaker 10: it's not a big deal.

1695
01:20:18,160 --> 01:20:20,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, but we're not going to back down from this

1696
01:20:20,760 --> 01:20:23,120
Speaker 3: thing because that looks like weakness, even though it might

1697
01:20:23,160 --> 01:20:25,200
Speaker 3: make sense that in the shorter we just he just

1698
01:20:25,240 --> 01:20:28,040
Speaker 3: doesn't do that right. And I think you know, you

1699
01:20:28,040 --> 01:20:30,280
Speaker 3: look at the Germans for example, too, and they it

1700
01:20:30,320 --> 01:20:33,400
Speaker 3: seems like they're avoiding a full blown trade war because

1701
01:20:34,360 --> 01:20:36,960
Speaker 3: they're trying to get more of a determined, a deterurn

1702
01:20:37,080 --> 01:20:39,519
Speaker 3: in place. So it's not de escalation. People just keep

1703
01:20:39,600 --> 01:20:41,960
Speaker 3: up in the abbey. Where do you see things playing

1704
01:20:42,000 --> 01:20:42,840
Speaker 3: out over the next year.

1705
01:20:45,000 --> 01:20:48,080
Speaker 10: Well, we'll see how this in Europe plays out. But

1706
01:20:48,160 --> 01:20:50,840
Speaker 10: I think I think, well, we're just you know, one

1707
01:20:50,840 --> 01:20:52,880
Speaker 10: thing we have to mention is that the Supreme Court

1708
01:20:52,920 --> 01:20:55,000
Speaker 10: is can be coming out any anything.

1709
01:20:55,280 --> 01:20:56,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean literally.

1710
01:20:56,200 --> 01:20:58,760
Speaker 10: Could be today, and that's going to be a big

1711
01:20:58,800 --> 01:21:03,880
Speaker 10: one because if they if they rule as expected and

1712
01:21:04,320 --> 01:21:08,040
Speaker 10: don't allow the emergency measures that Trump has used to

1713
01:21:08,080 --> 01:21:11,840
Speaker 10: impose these tariffs, there's going to be a lot of uncertainty,

1714
01:21:11,880 --> 01:21:14,639
Speaker 10: there's going to be refund issues, there's gonna be it's

1715
01:21:14,640 --> 01:21:15,240
Speaker 10: a mess.

1716
01:21:15,920 --> 01:21:17,760
Speaker 1: So I think you're right that.

1717
01:21:17,760 --> 01:21:21,920
Speaker 10: The tariffs are there for the long term to some degree,

1718
01:21:22,439 --> 01:21:25,560
Speaker 10: but it's basically caused a lot of volatility and a

1719
01:21:25,600 --> 01:21:29,040
Speaker 10: lot of confusion, and I think I think it's hurt

1720
01:21:29,080 --> 01:21:33,880
Speaker 10: the US brand, and I I just tend to think

1721
01:21:33,920 --> 01:21:37,120
Speaker 10: a lot of these issues could should be settled a

1722
01:21:37,160 --> 01:21:38,240
Speaker 10: little bit more quietly.

1723
01:21:39,479 --> 01:21:41,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, but that's not Trump's nature. And that's also that

1724
01:21:43,080 --> 01:21:43,400
Speaker 2: the bad.

1725
01:21:44,680 --> 01:21:48,519
Speaker 10: Yes, yes, I mean, I mean, I think going back

1726
01:21:48,560 --> 01:21:50,719
Speaker 10: to Greenland, if you really think about it, I think

1727
01:21:51,680 --> 01:21:54,840
Speaker 10: President Trump sees it as a massive real estate deal.

1728
01:21:55,920 --> 01:21:58,519
Speaker 1: And uh, you know, you look.

1729
01:21:58,360 --> 01:22:03,280
Speaker 10: Through history Jefferson Louisiana purchase, and then uh and then

1730
01:22:03,360 --> 01:22:06,439
Speaker 10: Alaska and and so on, and I think he sees

1731
01:22:06,479 --> 01:22:07,840
Speaker 10: that this is his legacy.

1732
01:22:08,000 --> 01:22:09,680
Speaker 1: But this is a big, big, you know.

1733
01:22:09,680 --> 01:22:13,960
Speaker 10: Three times Texas, and this could be his legacy.

1734
01:22:14,640 --> 01:22:15,360
Speaker 2: I guess.

1735
01:22:15,479 --> 01:22:19,439
Speaker 3: But yeah, and maybe that's why I'm so obsessed with Greenland,

1736
01:22:19,439 --> 01:22:21,720
Speaker 3: I guess. And but but pursuing that is, you know,

1737
01:22:21,760 --> 01:22:25,200
Speaker 3: we lose Europe, we lose NATO's gone. That certainly makes

1738
01:22:25,240 --> 01:22:29,360
Speaker 3: Putin happy, and it seems like it strengthens our enemies,

1739
01:22:29,400 --> 01:22:32,840
Speaker 3: whether it's UH, Russia, but particularly China, maybe even Iran too.

1740
01:22:34,640 --> 01:22:37,160
Speaker 10: Well. Anything that does you know, like I said, I

1741
01:22:37,160 --> 01:22:40,200
Speaker 10: mean the allies, the US and its allies are the

1742
01:22:40,240 --> 01:22:44,640
Speaker 10: Allies are probably one of the key strengths of you know,

1743
01:22:44,680 --> 01:22:48,960
Speaker 10: American power around the world. And if we need to

1744
01:22:49,040 --> 01:22:53,240
Speaker 10: value them, and if we lose them China, Russia, Iran,

1745
01:22:53,680 --> 01:22:58,240
Speaker 10: that that that whole coalition just gets stronger relatively speaking.

1746
01:22:58,360 --> 01:23:01,439
Speaker 10: So I don't think it's worth it. But you know,

1747
01:23:01,840 --> 01:23:05,360
Speaker 10: we're in a situation now where that's where we are.

1748
01:23:05,560 --> 01:23:08,000
Speaker 10: I mean, we have to accept reality. But we'll see

1749
01:23:08,439 --> 01:23:11,679
Speaker 10: we can manage is this is this is tricky because

1750
01:23:11,880 --> 01:23:13,679
Speaker 10: you know they you know, don't forget the other side

1751
01:23:13,720 --> 01:23:16,200
Speaker 10: has a pride to Yeah, that's I think.

1752
01:23:16,040 --> 01:23:18,000
Speaker 3: That's a good point, is that, you know, when when

1753
01:23:18,080 --> 01:23:21,280
Speaker 3: we're getting a standing ovation for putting down the United States,

1754
01:23:21,320 --> 01:23:23,720
Speaker 3: and that should get our attention. At the same time, though,

1755
01:23:23,960 --> 01:23:25,639
Speaker 3: there's a tea leaves of your I was talking about,

1756
01:23:25,760 --> 01:23:28,240
Speaker 3: you know that being empathetic towards Europe, but you know

1757
01:23:28,320 --> 01:23:31,919
Speaker 3: it's there. Their social policies are terrible over there, immigration

1758
01:23:32,040 --> 01:23:35,240
Speaker 3: is terrible over there. It's not like their economies are

1759
01:23:35,400 --> 01:23:36,160
Speaker 3: burgeoning either.

1760
01:23:36,520 --> 01:23:36,680
Speaker 8: Uh.

1761
01:23:36,760 --> 01:23:39,360
Speaker 3: At the same time, yea, with the subsession with Greenland,

1762
01:23:40,160 --> 01:23:42,400
Speaker 3: we saw how this played out to some degree in Canada.

1763
01:23:43,240 --> 01:23:45,519
Speaker 3: You know, they had an election there and you know

1764
01:23:45,720 --> 01:23:47,719
Speaker 3: there's a lot of people in Europe that are leaning

1765
01:23:47,760 --> 01:23:49,719
Speaker 3: to the right. They went there's it feels like almost

1766
01:23:49,760 --> 01:23:51,080
Speaker 3: I don't know if it's a majority, but there's a

1767
01:23:51,120 --> 01:23:55,160
Speaker 3: tipping point for nationalism versus globalism, and it's going nationalism's way.

1768
01:23:54,840 --> 01:23:57,600
Speaker 3: There's a right lean to Europe, at least with a

1769
01:23:57,640 --> 01:24:00,280
Speaker 3: lot of people. Anyway, we watch what happened in Canada, uh,

1770
01:24:00,320 --> 01:24:04,640
Speaker 3: and I think what happened with Trump and Canada is

1771
01:24:04,680 --> 01:24:07,519
Speaker 3: instead of having a right wing ally come in uh,

1772
01:24:07,600 --> 01:24:11,160
Speaker 3: they ended up being ruled by another liberal globalist.

1773
01:24:12,040 --> 01:24:15,519
Speaker 10: Yeah, or a technocrat kind of Jarney's kind of he's

1774
01:24:15,640 --> 01:24:20,400
Speaker 10: kind of uh, you know, like a international organization CFO

1775
01:24:21,120 --> 01:24:24,200
Speaker 10: type of god. Very intelligent Carney. But you know, the

1776
01:24:24,200 --> 01:24:27,120
Speaker 10: the other thing that the big news uh yesterday was

1777
01:24:27,240 --> 01:24:32,000
Speaker 10: his speech in in UH in Switzerland, where he called

1778
01:24:32,840 --> 01:24:34,800
Speaker 10: he called the bargain with the United States is no

1779
01:24:34,920 --> 01:24:40,559
Speaker 10: longer working and yeah, yeah, and that the US world

1780
01:24:40,680 --> 01:24:45,400
Speaker 10: order is uh in a stage of disruption or or

1781
01:24:45,479 --> 01:24:47,920
Speaker 10: rupturing and I guess is the word he used. And

1782
01:24:47,960 --> 01:24:51,560
Speaker 10: that's remarkable given given the trade flows, and that the

1783
01:24:51,560 --> 01:24:54,040
Speaker 10: the US with I don't know what they call it now,

1784
01:24:54,080 --> 01:24:57,519
Speaker 10: but NAFTA is a per negotiation. So I was a

1785
01:24:57,560 --> 01:25:01,920
Speaker 10: little bit startled by how public he was with that position. Yeah,

1786
01:25:01,920 --> 01:25:05,000
Speaker 10: you got a standing, Oh of course, so it yes,

1787
01:25:05,240 --> 01:25:08,880
Speaker 10: I mean there's always you know, it's not like I said,

1788
01:25:08,920 --> 01:25:10,639
Speaker 10: it's not a real estate deal. I mean you're dealing

1789
01:25:10,680 --> 01:25:15,479
Speaker 10: with nations and politics and national pride and so on.

1790
01:25:16,000 --> 01:25:21,320
Speaker 10: So yeah, it's just it's a little just a little

1791
01:25:21,360 --> 01:25:23,400
Speaker 10: bit more voliative. We're in a very it's kind of

1792
01:25:23,439 --> 01:25:28,479
Speaker 10: an age of people. The World War two order seems

1793
01:25:28,479 --> 01:25:30,800
Speaker 10: to be coming to an end, and what's going to

1794
01:25:30,880 --> 01:25:33,280
Speaker 10: emerge is hard to see.

1795
01:25:33,880 --> 01:25:36,280
Speaker 2: Brave New World. He is Carl Delfeld.

1796
01:25:36,360 --> 01:25:39,960
Speaker 3: Carl is on the show this morning on seven hundred

1797
01:25:40,000 --> 01:25:42,160
Speaker 3: W Lowty talking about Green Leave. We'll see how plays

1798
01:25:42,160 --> 01:25:45,120
Speaker 3: out at Davos today. He's the Independent Republican Senior Fellow

1799
01:25:45,200 --> 01:25:47,720
Speaker 3: the Center for Economic Security. Thanks again, Carl, the.

1800
01:25:47,640 --> 01:25:50,080
Speaker 1: Best, Thank you. I have a good day.

1801
01:25:50,120 --> 01:25:52,120
Speaker 3: You two news on the way in just minutes, completely

1802
01:25:52,200 --> 01:25:54,400
Speaker 3: updating and what's happening around the world in here and

1803
01:25:54,479 --> 01:25:56,000
Speaker 3: keep an eye on the markets with all this noise

1804
01:25:56,040 --> 01:25:56,519
Speaker 3: too as well.

1805
01:25:56,560 --> 01:25:56,920
Speaker 2: Sloaney.

1806
01:25:57,040 --> 01:25:59,840
Speaker 3: Back in about six minutes on seven hundred WLW with

1807
01:25:59,840 --> 01:26:26,320
Speaker 3: this report.

1808
01:26:16,120 --> 01:26:22,200
Speaker 5: A good she shut that pig, the snort report.

1809
01:26:22,680 --> 01:26:23,960
Speaker 2: All right, snort report time.

1810
01:26:24,640 --> 01:26:24,960
Speaker 1: You know what?

1811
01:26:25,000 --> 01:26:29,439
Speaker 12: I just saw memories the other day. Sorry, ooh, got

1812
01:26:29,479 --> 01:26:33,679
Speaker 12: some new headphones We're get used to. Okay, the who's

1813
01:26:33,800 --> 01:26:35,040
Speaker 12: your glue?

1814
01:26:35,120 --> 01:26:35,639
Speaker 5: Is in mine?

1815
01:26:35,760 --> 01:26:38,240
Speaker 2: But speaking of glue, what were you hoff in this morning?

1816
01:26:38,320 --> 01:26:38,640
Speaker 5: I don't know.

1817
01:26:38,680 --> 01:26:40,360
Speaker 12: I'm kind of I'm not one hundred percent right now.

1818
01:26:40,400 --> 01:26:42,240
Speaker 12: I was up late last night watching Miami.

1819
01:26:42,320 --> 01:26:43,040
Speaker 5: Oops.

1820
01:26:43,080 --> 01:26:47,320
Speaker 12: Oh back to back o t wins twenty and oh

1821
01:26:47,400 --> 01:26:49,599
Speaker 12: this team refuses to lose.

1822
01:26:49,680 --> 01:26:52,280
Speaker 3: I love it because here's Sarah you know, finally rag

1823
01:26:52,560 --> 01:26:55,320
Speaker 3: you want if you want to know which team in

1824
01:26:55,360 --> 01:26:58,160
Speaker 3: the region is doing well, you just look at what

1825
01:26:58,200 --> 01:27:00,840
Speaker 3: she's wearing. She's rocking her brand new Miami had with

1826
01:27:00,880 --> 01:27:01,639
Speaker 3: a tag on it.

1827
01:27:01,880 --> 01:27:03,800
Speaker 12: I think I've had this thing since I graduated. We

1828
01:27:03,840 --> 01:27:05,120
Speaker 12: don't need to talk about the date.

1829
01:27:06,280 --> 01:27:09,240
Speaker 2: There is no greater front runner in sports than sarahly.

1830
01:27:09,680 --> 01:27:13,879
Speaker 12: I was wearing my indie gear on Tuesday. Go Hoosier,

1831
01:27:14,960 --> 01:27:17,800
Speaker 12: big fan of big big kirt girl.

1832
01:27:18,280 --> 01:27:20,479
Speaker 2: Couldn't tell you where you love.

1833
01:27:20,400 --> 01:27:22,840
Speaker 12: What his daughter had tweeted out the other day. Of course,

1834
01:27:22,840 --> 01:27:26,639
Speaker 12: we talked about all the things trending on social Yes,

1835
01:27:27,280 --> 01:27:29,520
Speaker 12: she goes, look he's finally he's smiling.

1836
01:27:30,560 --> 01:27:32,759
Speaker 5: She put up a pic of her down.

1837
01:27:33,400 --> 01:27:35,920
Speaker 3: You watched the I'm watching the game, and I only

1838
01:27:35,960 --> 01:27:36,679
Speaker 3: got to watch.

1839
01:27:36,479 --> 01:27:38,000
Speaker 5: The first half. I had to get up early the

1840
01:27:38,040 --> 01:27:39,040
Speaker 5: next day. The block of.

1841
01:27:39,080 --> 01:27:42,240
Speaker 3: Punt score a touchdown, and you look at him and

1842
01:27:42,280 --> 01:27:44,720
Speaker 3: you swear that Indiana is the one who had the

1843
01:27:44,720 --> 01:27:45,240
Speaker 3: punt block.

1844
01:27:45,640 --> 01:27:46,160
Speaker 6: You would have.

1845
01:27:46,200 --> 01:27:48,040
Speaker 5: Thought that they hit it on a note saying you've

1846
01:27:48,040 --> 01:27:49,920
Speaker 5: got jewry. Dude, he's pissed off.

1847
01:27:49,960 --> 01:27:55,200
Speaker 2: He was pissed off when his own team just a touchdown.

1848
01:27:55,600 --> 01:27:58,360
Speaker 3: So you just scored a defensive especial teams touchdown and

1849
01:27:58,400 --> 01:27:59,280
Speaker 3: you you look mad.

1850
01:27:59,520 --> 01:28:01,000
Speaker 5: He's just simple man too.

1851
01:28:01,120 --> 01:28:03,519
Speaker 12: I mean a few things do make him smile, especially

1852
01:28:03,520 --> 01:28:05,240
Speaker 12: when they say, so, how are you going to celebrate?

1853
01:28:05,240 --> 01:28:07,040
Speaker 5: He goes, just a cold beer.

1854
01:28:07,360 --> 01:28:08,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's pretty good.

1855
01:28:08,080 --> 01:28:09,160
Speaker 5: Ready makes him happy.

1856
01:28:09,280 --> 01:28:11,080
Speaker 3: He's talking about, well this is good because you know,

1857
01:28:11,080 --> 01:28:13,720
Speaker 3: I mean, sixty two, he's waited forever to get this

1858
01:28:13,840 --> 01:28:16,000
Speaker 3: job and everything. But you know he's talking about, well,

1859
01:28:16,040 --> 01:28:18,679
Speaker 3: I hopefully continue this because I need the money he made,

1860
01:28:18,680 --> 01:28:20,040
Speaker 3: like what thirteen fourteen mil?

1861
01:28:20,600 --> 01:28:21,799
Speaker 2: I think you're doing okay?

1862
01:28:21,920 --> 01:28:24,000
Speaker 5: I think you're good to go, right, and you can't

1863
01:28:24,000 --> 01:28:26,960
Speaker 5: really top what just happened. I mean it was his store.

1864
01:28:27,360 --> 01:28:28,920
Speaker 3: He's like, I'm not going to the NFL. I'm a

1865
01:28:28,920 --> 01:28:30,960
Speaker 3: college football because this is what I do. Good for him?

1866
01:28:31,320 --> 01:28:33,280
Speaker 5: Would you replace Zach Taylor?

1867
01:28:34,280 --> 01:28:34,360
Speaker 1: No?

1868
01:28:35,040 --> 01:28:37,479
Speaker 3: With this, he would know he wouldn't want the job.

1869
01:28:37,960 --> 01:28:39,200
Speaker 3: Why would he want to do that?

1870
01:28:39,280 --> 01:28:41,240
Speaker 5: Okay, but what if it was offered to him.

1871
01:28:41,760 --> 01:28:46,120
Speaker 2: I'd run because all you're going to do is take

1872
01:28:46,160 --> 01:28:46,519
Speaker 2: the row.

1873
01:28:47,200 --> 01:28:48,280
Speaker 5: You're gonna take the arrows.

1874
01:28:48,320 --> 01:28:51,440
Speaker 3: Wait, I get to be the head coach in the coordinator,

1875
01:28:51,439 --> 01:28:53,559
Speaker 3: and also I get to be the head Chiefs guy.

1876
01:28:53,640 --> 01:28:56,400
Speaker 3: And also I got to be the face of the franchise.

1877
01:28:56,640 --> 01:28:57,080
Speaker 2: I'm good.

1878
01:28:57,160 --> 01:28:58,120
Speaker 5: What a better face?

1879
01:28:58,680 --> 01:28:59,200
Speaker 2: I'm good.

1880
01:29:01,280 --> 01:29:02,040
Speaker 5: Last night.

1881
01:29:03,760 --> 01:29:06,040
Speaker 12: We got to give brobst our guy Peter Soonter with

1882
01:29:06,160 --> 01:29:08,719
Speaker 12: twenty seven points for the red Ogs.

1883
01:29:09,120 --> 01:29:10,439
Speaker 5: I'm still going to talk about them.

1884
01:29:10,800 --> 01:29:13,760
Speaker 12: We've got one more game until I'm there, and so

1885
01:29:14,120 --> 01:29:18,400
Speaker 12: I'm there on the thirty first for Alumni weeked Oh great. Yeah,

1886
01:29:18,479 --> 01:29:20,519
Speaker 12: we got a double hudder with the ladies hoops at

1887
01:29:20,520 --> 01:29:23,080
Speaker 12: one and then the men playing at three point thirty

1888
01:29:23,080 --> 01:29:23,559
Speaker 12: at Molett.

1889
01:29:23,640 --> 01:29:25,400
Speaker 5: So do't we get to be back there? I'm excited.

1890
01:29:25,560 --> 01:29:26,400
Speaker 2: Go back to campus.

1891
01:29:26,520 --> 01:29:29,760
Speaker 12: Go back to campus, bagel and deli, maybe grab a drink,

1892
01:29:29,760 --> 01:29:33,200
Speaker 12: a brick street, right, feel real old and creepy, go.

1893
01:29:33,240 --> 01:29:37,920
Speaker 3: Hang out with other white People's great.

1894
01:29:36,920 --> 01:29:41,680
Speaker 5: Lots of that happening in Oxford. Lots of that. We

1895
01:29:41,760 --> 01:29:42,680
Speaker 5: do have some hoops to know.

1896
01:29:43,520 --> 01:29:47,240
Speaker 11: Let's go, Okay, give me all the vineyard. Yea vines, Miami,

1897
01:29:47,280 --> 01:29:48,160
Speaker 11: It's official logo.

1898
01:29:48,360 --> 01:29:52,759
Speaker 12: That's when Sarah was in her very preppy era. Hey, Tom,

1899
01:29:52,760 --> 01:29:56,080
Speaker 12: we were just talking about the Hoosiers. What are you

1900
01:29:56,120 --> 01:29:58,439
Speaker 12: still doing here? By the way, so late in the moment.

1901
01:30:00,200 --> 01:30:03,560
Speaker 3: He does well, he's got got meetings. I'm guessing the meetings.

1902
01:30:04,280 --> 01:30:07,559
Speaker 5: Kiss yes, kiss, and so yeah, tonight we got some hoops.

1903
01:30:07,640 --> 01:30:10,880
Speaker 12: The you see Bearcats a late one nine o'clock tonight

1904
01:30:10,880 --> 01:30:12,479
Speaker 12: against number one Aramanda.

1905
01:30:13,160 --> 01:30:14,840
Speaker 5: Though I know, can they do it again?

1906
01:30:14,920 --> 01:30:15,519
Speaker 2: Well, here's the thing.

1907
01:30:15,560 --> 01:30:17,840
Speaker 3: You show up paper bags and boo the team and

1908
01:30:17,840 --> 01:30:19,559
Speaker 3: all the stuff. You shouldn't do that, and guess what

1909
01:30:19,600 --> 01:30:20,240
Speaker 3: they want.

1910
01:30:20,240 --> 01:30:22,720
Speaker 12: Got some fire under their And I didn't really see

1911
01:30:22,760 --> 01:30:25,679
Speaker 12: any of the paper bags. We talked about the paper

1912
01:30:25,680 --> 01:30:28,080
Speaker 12: bags last week. I didn't really see those in the stands.

1913
01:30:29,960 --> 01:30:34,440
Speaker 12: Xavier Tonight's Blue Jays at seven o'clock.

1914
01:30:36,000 --> 01:30:37,240
Speaker 5: Very ridiculous.

1915
01:30:38,120 --> 01:30:39,840
Speaker 2: We're gonna start that in Pittsburgh next year. If they

1916
01:30:39,880 --> 01:30:42,360
Speaker 2: can't win, plastic bags on your heads.

1917
01:30:43,880 --> 01:30:45,240
Speaker 5: They got to get a coach first.

1918
01:30:46,160 --> 01:30:49,000
Speaker 12: Do you think Tomlin really stepped down or was there

1919
01:30:49,040 --> 01:30:49,800
Speaker 12: some conversation.

1920
01:30:50,040 --> 01:30:50,960
Speaker 2: Oh, that's a good question.

1921
01:30:51,120 --> 01:30:52,120
Speaker 5: It's time to get out of here.

1922
01:30:52,240 --> 01:30:54,000
Speaker 2: One every year. I mean, it's pretty good record.

1923
01:30:54,200 --> 01:30:55,439
Speaker 5: It's okay, it's okay.

1924
01:30:56,240 --> 01:30:59,479
Speaker 12: Uh, sixty four days until opening day and the fans

1925
01:30:59,520 --> 01:31:02,120
Speaker 12: were definitely sited over the weekend at Reds Fest, almost

1926
01:31:02,160 --> 01:31:05,280
Speaker 12: a record about twenty two thousand people in attendance for

1927
01:31:05,320 --> 01:31:05,679
Speaker 12: that one.

1928
01:31:06,080 --> 01:31:06,800
Speaker 5: Yeah, not bad.

1929
01:31:06,880 --> 01:31:10,200
Speaker 12: It felt crowded too Friday night a little packs was

1930
01:31:10,240 --> 01:31:15,320
Speaker 12: it packed? Very yeah? Shoulder to shoulder, the field down.

1931
01:31:15,320 --> 01:31:15,800
Speaker 2: Those are good.

1932
01:31:16,160 --> 01:31:17,000
Speaker 5: People were excited.

1933
01:31:17,040 --> 01:31:17,679
Speaker 2: They were excited.

1934
01:31:17,760 --> 01:31:22,720
Speaker 12: Yeah, especially during team intros introducing Tito. Ellie de la

1935
01:31:22,760 --> 01:31:25,439
Speaker 12: Cruz got a lot of applause. I don't know how

1936
01:31:25,439 --> 01:31:27,280
Speaker 12: Ellie feels about us here in Cincinnati though.

1937
01:31:27,479 --> 01:31:28,320
Speaker 2: About that contract?

1938
01:31:28,920 --> 01:31:33,320
Speaker 5: What yeah, what does that contract look like? Ain't he

1939
01:31:33,360 --> 01:31:34,040
Speaker 5: said no, thank you?

1940
01:31:35,160 --> 01:31:36,720
Speaker 12: And Scott looked at that thing like, you know what,

1941
01:31:36,800 --> 01:31:38,559
Speaker 12: maybe you could do better here in a couple of years.

1942
01:31:39,000 --> 01:31:41,479
Speaker 5: But we do have him through twenty twenty seven. Okay,

1943
01:31:41,960 --> 01:31:42,799
Speaker 5: so he stuck.

1944
01:31:43,040 --> 01:31:44,400
Speaker 2: He's here, he's red.

1945
01:31:44,640 --> 01:31:45,400
Speaker 5: But the reads are.

1946
01:31:45,320 --> 01:31:49,920
Speaker 12: Saying, it's apparently the largest contract in franchise history after

1947
01:31:49,960 --> 01:31:52,800
Speaker 12: what they offered to Joey Vado about ten years ago.

1948
01:31:54,400 --> 01:31:57,919
Speaker 12: Ten years ago is a big difference from these contracts

1949
01:31:57,920 --> 01:31:59,360
Speaker 12: that these kids are getting nowadays.

1950
01:31:59,520 --> 01:32:01,040
Speaker 2: Kids, kids, these kids.

1951
01:32:01,280 --> 01:32:03,479
Speaker 5: I did feel old. I'm like all of these guys

1952
01:32:03,479 --> 01:32:04,200
Speaker 5: on our team.

1953
01:32:04,040 --> 01:32:06,400
Speaker 3: Talking about front runners. Bream is getting bundled up here

1954
01:32:06,439 --> 01:32:08,840
Speaker 3: to go. He's got his Ohio state buck guy's hat on.

1955
01:32:09,120 --> 01:32:10,960
Speaker 5: He looks like he's going to perfect North.

1956
01:32:11,120 --> 01:32:14,120
Speaker 2: The two front runners in here. He's got state in Miami.

1957
01:32:14,240 --> 01:32:15,679
Speaker 5: It's not that Gold out there.

1958
01:32:19,240 --> 01:32:21,760
Speaker 2: Still has the national championship.

1959
01:32:22,160 --> 01:32:24,040
Speaker 5: We never talked about Ohio stayed in here.

1960
01:32:24,800 --> 01:32:27,920
Speaker 12: It's because I'm not You're not getting paid by paid,

1961
01:32:29,000 --> 01:32:30,559
Speaker 12: don't even get paid to be in here.

1962
01:32:30,520 --> 01:32:33,560
Speaker 2: Probably not do I Hey, wait a minute.

1963
01:32:33,920 --> 01:32:34,760
Speaker 5: The heck is going on.

1964
01:32:35,680 --> 01:32:38,960
Speaker 12: Somebody who's definitely getting paid Trending on social media Joe

1965
01:32:39,000 --> 01:32:42,200
Speaker 12: Burrow because he posted on Twitter for the first time

1966
01:32:42,240 --> 01:32:44,759
Speaker 12: in two years, and people are like, Wow, your password

1967
01:32:44,840 --> 01:32:45,400
Speaker 12: still works.

1968
01:32:45,400 --> 01:32:49,519
Speaker 3: That's amazing, you know what That's I like that about

1969
01:32:49,560 --> 01:32:51,200
Speaker 3: Joe where he's like, I'm not leaning in this.

1970
01:32:51,360 --> 01:32:53,160
Speaker 12: He doesn't have to get on social, he doesn't have

1971
01:32:53,160 --> 01:32:56,280
Speaker 12: to do anything. But he got on Monday, and I

1972
01:32:56,280 --> 01:32:58,960
Speaker 12: guess this was in response to, like all the controversial

1973
01:32:59,000 --> 01:33:01,839
Speaker 12: calls and the Bills Uncle's game and Bears versus Rams.

1974
01:33:01,960 --> 01:33:03,840
Speaker 5: I'm sure you don't want to talk about that Bill's game.

1975
01:33:05,040 --> 01:33:06,040
Speaker 5: You're fine with Josh.

1976
01:33:05,920 --> 01:33:08,680
Speaker 12: Allen Stoun's new head coach, but what did you think

1977
01:33:08,680 --> 01:33:10,599
Speaker 12: about the teary eyed press thereafter?

1978
01:33:10,880 --> 01:33:12,320
Speaker 2: It makes me love Josh even more.

1979
01:33:12,600 --> 01:33:15,439
Speaker 5: That's how I feel too. My dad was texting me.

1980
01:33:15,479 --> 01:33:17,080
Speaker 5: He's like, I can't even bear to watch that.

1981
01:33:17,240 --> 01:33:20,400
Speaker 3: I know, grown man like you to, like he took

1982
01:33:20,400 --> 01:33:22,000
Speaker 3: it all, you know, and when they win, it's all

1983
01:33:22,000 --> 01:33:24,160
Speaker 3: over the team, and you know, when when they lose,

1984
01:33:24,200 --> 01:33:24,720
Speaker 3: it's all him.

1985
01:33:24,880 --> 01:33:27,360
Speaker 12: I feel like he thought a lot of that was

1986
01:33:27,400 --> 01:33:29,240
Speaker 12: on him, like it was that they lost.

1987
01:33:29,280 --> 01:33:31,240
Speaker 5: It's kind of all the turnovers.

1988
01:33:30,960 --> 01:33:33,080
Speaker 3: Was the pick and everything else. But I mean there

1989
01:33:33,080 --> 01:33:36,400
Speaker 3: was there James Cook, how'd that go?

1990
01:33:36,960 --> 01:33:38,680
Speaker 2: How many have taken off?

1991
01:33:39,240 --> 01:33:40,519
Speaker 5: Todd Fraser was back?

1992
01:33:41,080 --> 01:33:42,479
Speaker 2: And do you look like naked?

1993
01:33:43,439 --> 01:33:44,439
Speaker 5: Wouldn't you like to know?

1994
01:33:44,720 --> 01:33:48,000
Speaker 11: I'm asking about that because I think he and Todd

1995
01:33:48,400 --> 01:33:51,120
Speaker 11: Red Striped Poker Todd.

1996
01:33:50,920 --> 01:33:55,120
Speaker 12: Overall came in thirteenth. He placed thirteenth, and that's you.

1997
01:33:55,840 --> 01:34:00,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, wrong with you.

1998
01:34:00,640 --> 01:34:03,559
Speaker 12: Joe Burrow tweeted the amount of people you put clothes

1999
01:34:03,600 --> 01:34:05,960
Speaker 12: back on the amount of people it's freezing in here,

2000
01:34:06,080 --> 01:34:08,200
Speaker 12: by the way, he said, the amount of people that

2001
01:34:08,320 --> 01:34:12,479
Speaker 12: don't understand what it catches in the rule book flabbergasted me.

2002
01:34:13,120 --> 01:34:15,400
Speaker 12: And it's not the officials that two plays yesterday were

2003
01:34:15,400 --> 01:34:18,360
Speaker 12: not difficult calls and they got them both right. So

2004
01:34:18,360 --> 01:34:21,519
Speaker 12: that's what Joe Burrow had tweeted on Monday, and people

2005
01:34:21,560 --> 01:34:24,760
Speaker 12: lost their minds over the tweet. I think a lot

2006
01:34:24,800 --> 01:34:26,519
Speaker 12: of people didn't even really look at the tweet. They

2007
01:34:26,520 --> 01:34:29,040
Speaker 12: were just looking at the fact that he was on social.

2008
01:34:29,120 --> 01:34:30,400
Speaker 3: I don't see much of their that the one of

2009
01:34:30,400 --> 01:34:32,200
Speaker 3: the Rams game, of the one in the England England game.

2010
01:34:32,240 --> 01:34:33,840
Speaker 2: It's like they close to me.

2011
01:34:33,920 --> 01:34:36,120
Speaker 5: Yeah, I didn't get a chance to watch be similar, so.

2012
01:34:36,040 --> 01:34:37,519
Speaker 2: Who at least I mean they here's the thing.

2013
01:34:37,520 --> 01:34:39,320
Speaker 3: Okay, you can go either way, right, I'll agree with

2014
01:34:39,400 --> 01:34:42,360
Speaker 3: Joe on that one, but the argument isn't what it

2015
01:34:42,439 --> 01:34:43,880
Speaker 3: was kid. It was a fact that why didn't you

2016
01:34:43,880 --> 01:34:45,360
Speaker 3: stop the game and look at it like the other

2017
01:34:45,360 --> 01:34:47,720
Speaker 3: two games did. They stopped and said, we need to

2018
01:34:47,760 --> 01:34:49,000
Speaker 3: make sure we got the right call.

2019
01:34:49,960 --> 01:34:52,760
Speaker 5: That was the problem, and that's why Joe was tweeting.

2020
01:34:53,040 --> 01:34:54,599
Speaker 3: That what he's not what he said though, he said,

2021
01:34:54,640 --> 01:34:56,040
Speaker 3: you need to see what it catches. Well, you got

2022
01:34:56,080 --> 01:34:57,720
Speaker 3: to take time to look and to make sure that's

2023
01:34:57,800 --> 01:34:58,519
Speaker 3: actually what.

2024
01:34:58,400 --> 01:35:00,320
Speaker 5: It is, right right, No, get it.

2025
01:35:00,320 --> 01:35:02,120
Speaker 12: I just didn't get a chance to watch him on Saturday,

2026
01:35:02,120 --> 01:35:03,800
Speaker 12: which it doesn't look like I've missed a whole lot

2027
01:35:04,080 --> 01:35:08,560
Speaker 12: because now it's Patriots Broncos, Rams at Seahawks.

2028
01:35:08,640 --> 01:35:11,040
Speaker 3: Yes, now we also have, you know, speaking of Joe

2029
01:35:11,080 --> 01:35:14,040
Speaker 3: burrowin coaching in Cincinnati, Zach Taylor last man standing in

2030
01:35:14,080 --> 01:35:17,200
Speaker 3: the AFC North the coaches. But what does that say

2031
01:35:17,200 --> 01:35:20,080
Speaker 3: about the Bengals now that all the teams in the

2032
01:35:20,120 --> 01:35:23,720
Speaker 3: AFC North have have new head coaches coming in in

2033
01:35:23,800 --> 01:35:26,719
Speaker 3: the process of different Bill's just fired and to getting

2034
01:35:26,760 --> 01:35:31,000
Speaker 3: new head coach Day Bills Ins fired Sean McDermott, who

2035
01:35:31,439 --> 01:35:33,880
Speaker 3: advanced in the divisionals and lost again. So he's gone

2036
01:35:33,880 --> 01:35:37,679
Speaker 3: to the playoff eight to nine years, two AFC championship games,

2037
01:35:37,800 --> 01:35:38,720
Speaker 3: never got the Super Bowl.

2038
01:35:38,880 --> 01:35:41,479
Speaker 2: He's out in the Buffalo. What does that say about

2039
01:35:41,479 --> 01:35:42,280
Speaker 2: the Bengals.

2040
01:35:42,000 --> 01:35:46,920
Speaker 12: Different expectations. That's all there is to it. We are

2041
01:35:47,120 --> 01:35:51,400
Speaker 12: okay with just being there, just showing up and having

2042
01:35:51,479 --> 01:35:54,559
Speaker 12: good attendance. I mean, in that press conference, Duke Togin

2043
01:35:54,600 --> 01:35:57,880
Speaker 12: went on about how much he loves Zach Taylor, big

2044
01:35:58,000 --> 01:36:00,640
Speaker 12: Zach Taylor fan, and there's a guy. We're not going

2045
01:36:00,720 --> 01:36:05,160
Speaker 12: to make any staff changes whatsoever. Everyone's returning. We're good

2046
01:36:05,200 --> 01:36:07,320
Speaker 12: on our end. I guess six and eleven is good.

2047
01:36:07,439 --> 01:36:10,200
Speaker 2: When the Bengals win five games next year that one, then.

2048
01:36:10,080 --> 01:36:11,320
Speaker 5: They're gonna extend zapp tailor.

2049
01:36:13,520 --> 01:36:16,120
Speaker 12: Speaking of Sean McDermott, the Bills did post on social

2050
01:36:16,160 --> 01:36:19,679
Speaker 12: media last night a bunch of picks of Sean and

2051
01:36:20,080 --> 01:36:21,839
Speaker 12: they said, hey, thanks for everything.

2052
01:36:22,840 --> 01:36:23,120
Speaker 2: Awesome.

2053
01:36:23,160 --> 01:36:25,040
Speaker 3: He wrapped his arms around the city like Exac did hear.

2054
01:36:25,040 --> 01:36:26,599
Speaker 3: I mean, people, I think as Zach, you know, holl

2055
01:36:26,600 --> 01:36:28,240
Speaker 3: go out. He's doing stuff that no other coach did,

2056
01:36:28,439 --> 01:36:30,120
Speaker 3: you know, handing game balls out and stuff like that.

2057
01:36:30,200 --> 01:36:31,840
Speaker 12: Then good will goes along with And that was cool

2058
01:36:31,840 --> 01:36:33,680
Speaker 12: a few years ago, but we got to get back

2059
01:36:33,720 --> 01:36:35,800
Speaker 12: to that. It's not cool when you're losing. None of

2060
01:36:35,800 --> 01:36:39,240
Speaker 12: that stuff is fun. Nothing is funny when you're six

2061
01:36:39,280 --> 01:36:40,000
Speaker 12: In all Yeah.

2062
01:36:39,840 --> 01:36:41,280
Speaker 2: With this offense, there's no excuse.

2063
01:36:41,600 --> 01:36:44,200
Speaker 5: No, well there isn't. You're paying these guys a ton

2064
01:36:44,240 --> 01:36:44,599
Speaker 5: of money.

2065
01:36:44,640 --> 01:36:47,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, next year Joe will be in everyone's gonna be

2066
01:36:47,040 --> 01:36:49,080
Speaker 3: a year older, and we know what that means in

2067
01:36:49,080 --> 01:36:51,799
Speaker 3: the NFL, he will almost be thirty.

2068
01:36:52,080 --> 01:36:56,200
Speaker 5: Yes, we have him till twenty twenty nine.

2069
01:36:56,280 --> 01:36:56,800
Speaker 2: What is that me?

2070
01:36:58,200 --> 01:37:00,320
Speaker 5: We've got him till twenty track.

2071
01:37:00,400 --> 01:37:02,360
Speaker 11: But again, a lot of things gonna happen between How

2072
01:37:02,680 --> 01:37:03,800
Speaker 11: so much could happen?

2073
01:37:03,880 --> 01:37:05,760
Speaker 5: Oh my gosh, there were rumors that Joe was going

2074
01:37:05,840 --> 01:37:06,720
Speaker 5: to bail on us.

2075
01:37:06,880 --> 01:37:09,040
Speaker 11: I mean, there's injuries, there's the rest of the team.

2076
01:37:09,160 --> 01:37:12,360
Speaker 11: There's there. Yeah, let's hope the injuries are.

2077
01:37:12,280 --> 01:37:14,080
Speaker 2: Done every year. That's a problem.

2078
01:37:14,160 --> 01:37:15,080
Speaker 5: Yep, yep.

2079
01:37:16,240 --> 01:37:20,400
Speaker 12: I'm also trending on social media. I guess the Chargers are.

2080
01:37:20,200 --> 01:37:22,560
Speaker 5: Planning to hire Mike.

2081
01:37:24,000 --> 01:37:28,160
Speaker 2: McCarthy. Yep, no, no, oh, Mike McDaniel, McDaniel. I saw

2082
01:37:28,200 --> 01:37:30,000
Speaker 2: that they're going to hire him. Yeah, next head coach.

2083
01:37:30,080 --> 01:37:31,080
Speaker 5: Yeah, that was just coming in.

2084
01:37:31,160 --> 01:37:32,920
Speaker 2: So it's coming hot, hot, in.

2085
01:37:32,920 --> 01:37:34,519
Speaker 5: Heavy, coming in hot, coming in hot.

2086
01:37:34,880 --> 01:37:36,880
Speaker 2: Also they already have a coach.

2087
01:37:37,000 --> 01:37:40,160
Speaker 12: Yes, yes, I'm like, we got new news, we got

2088
01:37:40,160 --> 01:37:42,519
Speaker 12: new news, and then the Teddy Bear Toss is this

2089
01:37:42,640 --> 01:37:46,200
Speaker 12: weekend for the Cincinnati Cyclones, their biggest game of the

2090
01:37:46,360 --> 01:37:48,760
Speaker 12: entire season on Saturday, especial Mattine for that.

2091
01:37:50,160 --> 01:37:51,880
Speaker 5: You know what, they're okay, they took two or three

2092
01:37:51,880 --> 01:37:52,599
Speaker 5: over the weekend.

2093
01:37:53,280 --> 01:37:54,320
Speaker 2: Were they in the standings.

2094
01:37:55,000 --> 01:37:56,559
Speaker 5: I'm not sure about that. I need to look at

2095
01:37:56,560 --> 01:37:57,080
Speaker 5: It means.

2096
01:37:57,120 --> 01:37:59,640
Speaker 2: Not very well because you would be wearing your Cyclones.

2097
01:37:59,200 --> 01:38:02,920
Speaker 5: Had right first or first or you're out.

2098
01:38:03,120 --> 01:38:04,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, but Teddy Bear tosses.

2099
01:38:05,160 --> 01:38:08,240
Speaker 5: One of their goalies just got called up yesterday. So yeah,

2100
01:38:08,360 --> 01:38:08,960
Speaker 5: after they.

2101
01:38:08,840 --> 01:38:11,840
Speaker 3: Lost on on Monday, the Teddy Bear toss is a

2102
01:38:11,840 --> 01:38:12,360
Speaker 3: big thing here.

2103
01:38:12,439 --> 01:38:13,280
Speaker 5: It's a huge thing.

2104
01:38:13,360 --> 01:38:15,920
Speaker 12: So yeah, you bring a new or gently used Teddy bear,

2105
01:38:16,000 --> 01:38:18,439
Speaker 12: toss it onto the isis and signed Police and Fire Department.

2106
01:38:18,439 --> 01:38:20,200
Speaker 5: We'll collect them and they go to kids and needs.

2107
01:38:20,280 --> 01:38:21,240
Speaker 5: So it's a great thing.

2108
01:38:21,320 --> 01:38:21,479
Speaker 1: Yeah.

2109
01:38:21,479 --> 01:38:23,760
Speaker 12: They've got their big frozen five and ten k race

2110
01:38:23,800 --> 01:38:27,960
Speaker 12: on Saturday boarding and it will definitely be frozen outside.

2111
01:38:28,120 --> 01:38:29,280
Speaker 5: I think it's going to be a high of like

2112
01:38:29,400 --> 01:38:31,440
Speaker 5: ten some snow on the ground.

2113
01:38:31,360 --> 01:38:34,960
Speaker 12: Feather oh yeah yeah, so be ready to be frozen.

2114
01:38:35,360 --> 01:38:37,160
Speaker 3: You think someday somebody will come in and like just

2115
01:38:37,200 --> 01:38:38,040
Speaker 3: throw a live bear.

2116
01:38:39,840 --> 01:38:42,679
Speaker 12: Good luck getting through security. I can barely get through

2117
01:38:42,680 --> 01:38:45,599
Speaker 12: with my little zip block bag at Heritage Bank Center.

2118
01:38:46,000 --> 01:38:48,200
Speaker 5: If you can get through with a live bell.

2119
01:38:48,280 --> 01:38:51,200
Speaker 2: A bear, cub Hey, that one's moving.

2120
01:38:51,840 --> 01:38:55,360
Speaker 5: Damn some lucky good luck getting that onto.

2121
01:38:55,360 --> 01:38:57,639
Speaker 3: The lucky kid gets their live. Here you go, there's

2122
01:38:57,680 --> 01:38:59,000
Speaker 3: a live there's a real bear.

2123
01:38:59,240 --> 01:38:59,519
Speaker 5: I know.

2124
01:38:59,600 --> 01:39:03,120
Speaker 12: You just ever know what toss all kind of crazy things.

2125
01:39:04,000 --> 01:39:06,400
Speaker 12: It doesn't have to necessarily be a teddy bear, can

2126
01:39:06,439 --> 01:39:07,280
Speaker 12: be any sort of But.

2127
01:39:07,280 --> 01:39:09,000
Speaker 3: So you work down there for long. What's the crazy

2128
01:39:09,040 --> 01:39:10,280
Speaker 3: thing you saw somebody throw on the eye.

2129
01:39:10,439 --> 01:39:12,400
Speaker 12: The giant corn dog from a couple of years ago,

2130
01:39:12,800 --> 01:39:15,760
Speaker 12: the corner dog was stuffed corn dog, and then that

2131
01:39:15,840 --> 01:39:19,439
Speaker 12: thing went viral and now they sell corn dogs at

2132
01:39:19,479 --> 01:39:20,160
Speaker 12: Heritage Bank.

2133
01:39:20,960 --> 01:39:23,080
Speaker 5: It was the greatest thing I've everd A couple of

2134
01:39:23,120 --> 01:39:23,479
Speaker 5: years ago.

2135
01:39:24,520 --> 01:39:26,600
Speaker 12: Yeah, it was about three years ago, and me and

2136
01:39:26,840 --> 01:39:28,000
Speaker 12: my Tiff and I were at that game.

2137
01:39:28,200 --> 01:39:29,960
Speaker 2: Was like mustard stained on the on the ice. You

2138
01:39:29,960 --> 01:39:30,680
Speaker 2: couldn't get it off.

2139
01:39:30,960 --> 01:39:33,240
Speaker 12: And everyone loved it so much that they decided to

2140
01:39:33,280 --> 01:39:35,519
Speaker 12: sell actual corn dogs that you can eat and little

2141
01:39:35,560 --> 01:39:36,719
Speaker 12: plushy corn dogs.

2142
01:39:37,040 --> 01:39:39,160
Speaker 5: I have one of those little plushes.

2143
01:39:38,880 --> 01:39:40,400
Speaker 2: Plush corn Your dog hasn't chewed it.

2144
01:39:40,439 --> 01:39:42,280
Speaker 5: Up yet she hasn't know. She's too old for that.

2145
01:39:42,400 --> 01:39:42,719
Speaker 1: Gotcha?

2146
01:39:42,960 --> 01:39:45,120
Speaker 5: Okay, the corn dogs though.

2147
01:39:45,000 --> 01:39:47,960
Speaker 3: Sarah Leason the Snort report this morning here on seven hundred,

2148
01:39:48,400 --> 01:39:49,240
Speaker 3: how many snorts steak?

2149
01:39:49,240 --> 01:39:51,080
Speaker 2: Because you're tired, I'm most sleeping.

2150
01:39:51,120 --> 01:39:52,960
Speaker 5: I was up way too late last night watching that game.

2151
01:39:53,040 --> 01:39:54,360
Speaker 2: And now you got to go to corporate meetings.

2152
01:39:54,400 --> 01:39:57,880
Speaker 11: Corporates got a four hour meeting ahead of what they

2153
01:39:57,880 --> 01:39:59,320
Speaker 11: possibly talk about for four hours.

2154
01:39:59,400 --> 01:40:01,400
Speaker 5: It's really credible. Will you do it every day?

2155
01:40:01,760 --> 01:40:01,920
Speaker 2: No?

2156
01:40:01,920 --> 01:40:01,960
Speaker 1: No?

2157
01:40:02,040 --> 01:40:05,000
Speaker 2: What can they talk about the the corporate overlords to

2158
01:40:05,080 --> 01:40:06,400
Speaker 2: you for four hours?

2159
01:40:06,840 --> 01:40:08,920
Speaker 5: This might be our last Snow report ever. Maybe they're

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Speaker 5: firing all of us.

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Speaker 3: It doesn't take four I'm going to fire. It doesn't

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Speaker 3: take four hours. Again, if you're firing, takes four hours

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Speaker 3: to get to the point.

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Speaker 5: I think the last time I got fired, it was

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Speaker 5: about four minutes. That's it.

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Speaker 2: That's that. That's all takes.

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Speaker 1: Yep.

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Speaker 5: They're like, you got two weeks left here, so.

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Speaker 2: Maybe two weeks they did. Damn.

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Speaker 12: They said, we're cutting your job and you've got a

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Speaker 12: couple of weeks left here with us, and then that's it.

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Speaker 12: So they gave me a date and they were like,

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Speaker 12: if you want to take the rest of the day,

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Speaker 12: you can.

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Speaker 2: Thanks, I'll take the rest of the day. It's five o'clock, all.

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Speaker 5: Right, anyway. That's for another.

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Speaker 2: That's everything.

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Speaker 5: That's everything.

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Speaker 3: You got a cupboard snort. The world of social media

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Speaker 3: and sports colliding with Sarah Lease. Yes, tomorrow morning a

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Speaker 3: kid Chris Show on one O two seven EBN. Willie

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Speaker 3: is on the way coming up after news update. Scoonsland

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Speaker 3: return tomorrow nine oh five. That's me here, seven hundred

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Speaker 3: since now