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Stay connected 6 00:00:18,160 --> 00:00:19,799 Speaker 1: and follow the sports leader cafe. 7 00:00:19,560 --> 00:00:42,720 Speaker 2: In a couple of thirteen fourteen pasted on the common man, 8 00:00:42,960 --> 00:00:45,920 Speaker 2: he is trying to be our number two starts with 9 00:00:45,960 --> 00:00:47,800 Speaker 2: a little five three four. 10 00:00:49,040 --> 00:00:54,480 Speaker 3: Time Now four five questions? 11 00:00:54,960 --> 00:00:57,640 Speaker 1: Well, actually three, but five sounds like more than four. 12 00:01:00,320 --> 00:01:07,319 Speaker 4: Question number one, It's now time to take an in 13 00:01:07,440 --> 00:01:13,520 Speaker 4: depth look at the welfare of the Wolves. 14 00:01:18,880 --> 00:01:20,840 Speaker 1: The Wolves had not lost five in a row after 15 00:01:20,880 --> 00:01:23,679 Speaker 1: getting blown up by the Golden State Warriors one eleven 16 00:01:23,720 --> 00:01:26,880 Speaker 1: eighty five yesterday at Target Center. The Wolves committed twenty 17 00:01:26,880 --> 00:01:30,720 Speaker 1: six turnovers. Jade McDaniels was one for eight with four turnovers. Well, 18 00:01:30,800 --> 00:01:33,640 Speaker 1: Julius Randall was three for eleven with just eleven points 19 00:01:34,480 --> 00:01:39,520 Speaker 1: common Should we be getting concerned with your Minnesota Ttermber Wolves. 20 00:01:41,680 --> 00:01:46,319 Speaker 2: Well, every time I raised concerns, I'm told to calm down, 21 00:01:47,520 --> 00:01:51,200 Speaker 2: And then I calmed down, and I even basically sort 22 00:01:51,240 --> 00:01:54,480 Speaker 2: of went belly up and ran up the white flag 23 00:01:54,560 --> 00:01:55,680 Speaker 2: and said, I guess just. 24 00:01:55,600 --> 00:01:58,760 Speaker 3: The way the league is, you win some, you lose some. 25 00:01:59,520 --> 00:02:03,320 Speaker 2: I just I still do feel that teams, and I 26 00:02:03,400 --> 00:02:06,840 Speaker 2: know upsets happened, and other teams got professional players and 27 00:02:06,880 --> 00:02:09,640 Speaker 2: they can rise to the occasion. It just seems I 28 00:02:09,680 --> 00:02:12,480 Speaker 2: can only go by the words that come out of 29 00:02:12,520 --> 00:02:14,800 Speaker 2: the locker room, and you know there was more of 30 00:02:14,840 --> 00:02:15,239 Speaker 2: them here. 31 00:02:15,360 --> 00:02:28,960 Speaker 3: Now I'll go to the story from yesterday's loss. Hold on. 32 00:02:33,520 --> 00:02:37,200 Speaker 2: I know that the game was originally scheduled for Saturday. 33 00:02:37,240 --> 00:02:39,240 Speaker 2: It was postponed a Sunday because of. 34 00:02:42,960 --> 00:02:48,959 Speaker 3: The protests in Minneapolis. 35 00:02:53,120 --> 00:02:56,800 Speaker 2: And one player I'm reading from Chris Heinz piece, it 36 00:02:56,840 --> 00:02:59,399 Speaker 2: says one player said before the game, it didn't feel 37 00:02:59,440 --> 00:03:01,560 Speaker 2: as if the team was actually preparing to take the floor. 38 00:03:01,919 --> 00:03:03,600 Speaker 2: It was the most fifth consecutive loss in a day. 39 00:03:03,600 --> 00:03:06,520 Speaker 2: They didn't feel much like a typical basketball Gama, says 40 00:03:07,200 --> 00:03:10,520 Speaker 2: Dante DiVincenzo said, everybody, your heart and your thoughts are 41 00:03:10,520 --> 00:03:15,120 Speaker 2: with the family going through that tragedy. About the from Saturday, 42 00:03:15,200 --> 00:03:18,800 Speaker 2: it says, but that's not an excuse. I think, if anything, 43 00:03:18,840 --> 00:03:21,240 Speaker 2: sometimes that brings a community together more and we need 44 00:03:21,280 --> 00:03:22,960 Speaker 2: to stay together as a community, as a team, and 45 00:03:23,040 --> 00:03:25,519 Speaker 2: just push through these rough days, these dark days, because 46 00:03:25,560 --> 00:03:27,480 Speaker 2: there's a lot bigger things in basketball. But what we 47 00:03:27,520 --> 00:03:30,519 Speaker 2: can control it now is our basketball in our energy, 48 00:03:30,560 --> 00:03:34,120 Speaker 2: and they had none. And as a matter of fact, 49 00:03:37,080 --> 00:03:41,440 Speaker 2: Julius Randel said, lifeless, no energy at all. Terrible choice 50 00:03:41,440 --> 00:03:44,040 Speaker 2: of words, but it's just no energy to what we're doing, 51 00:03:44,400 --> 00:03:48,560 Speaker 2: no purpose, no passion. Just kind of feels not great. 52 00:03:52,400 --> 00:03:56,320 Speaker 2: Devincenzo said, the Wolve's got some issues out in the open. 53 00:03:56,360 --> 00:03:58,480 Speaker 2: He says, it's been a dressed but at the same time, 54 00:03:58,560 --> 00:04:01,560 Speaker 2: words can only go as far as words go. It 55 00:04:01,640 --> 00:04:04,160 Speaker 2: might work for one or two games, but this needs 56 00:04:04,200 --> 00:04:06,960 Speaker 2: to be something that is that is a night in, 57 00:04:07,200 --> 00:04:12,120 Speaker 2: night out thing where you play with energy and added 58 00:04:12,200 --> 00:04:15,280 Speaker 2: everybody tired, everybody ready to go to the break, which 59 00:04:15,280 --> 00:04:19,159 Speaker 2: we talked about last week. That kind of annoys me. 60 00:04:19,240 --> 00:04:22,240 Speaker 2: But we just but we just getting outplayed on the 61 00:04:22,279 --> 00:04:25,360 Speaker 2: effort part. So we got to bring it on that 62 00:04:25,560 --> 00:04:30,200 Speaker 2: side for sure, and that's for me. That's what this 63 00:04:30,320 --> 00:04:37,400 Speaker 2: is my my concern, that's what it's been all about, 64 00:04:37,680 --> 00:04:43,320 Speaker 2: is that they don't seem to take a real professional approach. 65 00:04:43,880 --> 00:04:46,039 Speaker 3: Every game. You go, okay, start of a new game. 66 00:04:46,120 --> 00:04:46,640 Speaker 3: Let's go out. 67 00:04:46,720 --> 00:04:50,240 Speaker 2: Let's put a professional performance together. Let's play offense, defense, 68 00:04:50,279 --> 00:04:53,160 Speaker 2: special teams. Let's not take teams lightly, Let's not make 69 00:04:53,240 --> 00:04:55,840 Speaker 2: lazy passes. You only have to do it for two 70 00:04:55,880 --> 00:04:57,880 Speaker 2: and a half hours a night. The taps at seven 71 00:04:57,880 --> 00:05:04,720 Speaker 2: to ten. The game is usually over by. 72 00:05:02,240 --> 00:05:04,480 Speaker 3: Nine, right, I mean, or is the tap it? 73 00:05:04,800 --> 00:05:06,800 Speaker 2: It's basically two and a half hours at the most, 74 00:05:06,839 --> 00:05:08,320 Speaker 2: and you do it three or four nights a week. 75 00:05:08,400 --> 00:05:11,560 Speaker 2: Other teams, now the Thunder have gone through their troubles. 76 00:05:11,560 --> 00:05:14,680 Speaker 2: They lost again last night. San Antonio lost. You don't 77 00:05:14,680 --> 00:05:15,240 Speaker 2: win them all. 78 00:05:15,760 --> 00:05:18,200 Speaker 3: But when the team that when the when? When when the. 79 00:05:18,120 --> 00:05:22,200 Speaker 2: Individuals on the teams themselves talk about it? Doesn't seem 80 00:05:22,200 --> 00:05:24,200 Speaker 2: playing word sinc. We don't come with the same effort 81 00:05:24,240 --> 00:05:26,760 Speaker 2: and energy every night. Is it as simple as that? 82 00:05:26,839 --> 00:05:27,160 Speaker 3: I don't know. 83 00:05:27,279 --> 00:05:28,960 Speaker 2: That's what they seem to claim. I just would like 84 00:05:29,000 --> 00:05:31,279 Speaker 2: to see it. But so yeah, I mean I think 85 00:05:31,279 --> 00:05:33,560 Speaker 2: there is concern. But I'll say what I've been saying 86 00:05:33,560 --> 00:05:35,520 Speaker 2: now for the past couple of weeks. I guess if 87 00:05:35,520 --> 00:05:37,400 Speaker 2: you get in the top six, that's all you're looking at. 88 00:05:37,440 --> 00:05:41,520 Speaker 2: They're they're not in the top six right now, but 89 00:05:42,640 --> 00:05:46,440 Speaker 2: they seem to have enough talent. They the team hasn't 90 00:05:46,520 --> 00:05:49,640 Speaker 2: changed much from last year. They lost what's his face? 91 00:05:51,400 --> 00:05:56,320 Speaker 2: Who is the big loss last year via via free agency. Yeah, uh, 92 00:05:58,040 --> 00:05:58,560 Speaker 2: I think they. 93 00:05:58,480 --> 00:05:59,480 Speaker 3: Do miss him quite a bit. 94 00:05:59,640 --> 00:06:01,440 Speaker 2: But one player does not a team make and if 95 00:06:01,440 --> 00:06:03,719 Speaker 2: he's that important to the club, you shouldn't let him go. 96 00:06:04,279 --> 00:06:09,720 Speaker 2: I don't remember again. Yeah, and then lost so but yeah, 97 00:06:09,760 --> 00:06:13,600 Speaker 2: you would think where they were. Everybody tells me what 98 00:06:13,640 --> 00:06:15,400 Speaker 2: they they could use a point cord, but what they 99 00:06:15,440 --> 00:06:17,479 Speaker 2: really need a scoring off the bench. They have nobody 100 00:06:17,520 --> 00:06:19,360 Speaker 2: that you know, Nas is about the only guy that 101 00:06:19,440 --> 00:06:21,200 Speaker 2: can come off the bench and score. They need another 102 00:06:21,240 --> 00:06:23,760 Speaker 2: score off the bench. Well, whether they make that move 103 00:06:23,880 --> 00:06:25,960 Speaker 2: or not. Uh So, I guess it's just you just 104 00:06:26,960 --> 00:06:28,480 Speaker 2: you got to accept what you see from the Wolves 105 00:06:28,480 --> 00:06:30,599 Speaker 2: because I don't think it's changed anytime soon, because they've 106 00:06:30,600 --> 00:06:33,000 Speaker 2: talked about changing it since the first game of the season, 107 00:06:33,040 --> 00:06:35,040 Speaker 2: they haven't done it. And then you just hope that 108 00:06:35,080 --> 00:06:37,640 Speaker 2: once you come to playoff time, come fourth quarter, bring 109 00:06:37,720 --> 00:06:38,560 Speaker 2: it to the ticket. 110 00:06:40,160 --> 00:06:41,520 Speaker 1: Question number two. 111 00:06:42,680 --> 00:06:45,000 Speaker 5: Time now for an in depth look at the state 112 00:06:45,320 --> 00:06:57,400 Speaker 5: of the state of hockey. 113 00:06:47,120 --> 00:07:01,120 Speaker 1: The wild loss of the floor of Panthers four to 114 00:07:01,120 --> 00:07:03,720 Speaker 1: three in overtime Saturday night at Grand Casino Arena in 115 00:07:03,760 --> 00:07:06,359 Speaker 1: the Wild gut Matt Boldi back from injury and he 116 00:07:06,360 --> 00:07:09,080 Speaker 1: scored a shorthanded goal. He also assisted on career Capriceoff's 117 00:07:09,080 --> 00:07:11,600 Speaker 1: powerplay goal. By the way caprice Off today and in 118 00:07:11,680 --> 00:07:13,400 Speaker 1: the number one Star of the week in the National 119 00:07:13,400 --> 00:07:17,560 Speaker 1: Hockey League, Philip Gustison made thirty saves. Common was sucks 120 00:07:17,600 --> 00:07:20,440 Speaker 1: out to you from the Wild's loss to Flow RIGHTA. 121 00:07:21,160 --> 00:07:23,640 Speaker 2: I like that caprice Off is starting to do the 122 00:07:23,680 --> 00:07:25,400 Speaker 2: things he used to do that made him real good. 123 00:07:25,400 --> 00:07:27,440 Speaker 2: Ever since the Quinn trade, there was some discussions. You know, 124 00:07:27,520 --> 00:07:30,600 Speaker 2: I'm not paying his fuse attention, just reading right, and 125 00:07:30,720 --> 00:07:33,120 Speaker 2: it says that the two haven't really clicked together. And 126 00:07:33,160 --> 00:07:37,240 Speaker 2: since the acquisition of Quinn offensively, which is what Caprisof's 127 00:07:37,280 --> 00:07:40,000 Speaker 2: there for, he hadn't been contributing as much as he 128 00:07:40,080 --> 00:07:40,720 Speaker 2: has since he. 129 00:07:41,880 --> 00:07:45,240 Speaker 3: First don the wheat in the green. But now this 130 00:07:45,400 --> 00:07:47,560 Speaker 3: is more like the caprice. 131 00:07:47,120 --> 00:07:51,880 Speaker 2: Off we've been used, scoring goals, assisting on goals, making 132 00:07:51,920 --> 00:07:58,040 Speaker 2: a difference out there, guys getting healthy. It's but it 133 00:07:58,120 --> 00:08:00,800 Speaker 2: just it's like you've told me a couple thirty fourteen times. 134 00:08:00,840 --> 00:08:05,160 Speaker 2: Now we're probably we're we're pretty and barring a total 135 00:08:05,200 --> 00:08:07,480 Speaker 2: collapse or any major injuries, we're a locked to make 136 00:08:07,480 --> 00:08:09,840 Speaker 2: the postseason. We're probably gonna have to play Dallas to 137 00:08:09,880 --> 00:08:11,360 Speaker 2: start things off, and they're very good. 138 00:08:11,480 --> 00:08:13,720 Speaker 3: So then if you do get by them, then you 139 00:08:13,720 --> 00:08:14,720 Speaker 3: got to get by the lamp. 140 00:08:14,720 --> 00:08:17,400 Speaker 2: Next if if if it holds chalk is that what 141 00:08:17,440 --> 00:08:17,840 Speaker 2: they say? 142 00:08:19,920 --> 00:08:23,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, so I don't know, but yeah, it's like. 143 00:08:23,880 --> 00:08:27,160 Speaker 2: I guess, Uh, the best thing is just keep trying 144 00:08:27,160 --> 00:08:29,120 Speaker 2: to win as many as you can and hopefully stay 145 00:08:29,120 --> 00:08:30,400 Speaker 2: healthy going into postseason. 146 00:08:30,680 --> 00:08:33,400 Speaker 1: How about you, do you have any It's good to 147 00:08:33,400 --> 00:08:35,480 Speaker 1: have Boldie back. Uh, And then they just said Eric 148 00:08:35,520 --> 00:08:38,079 Speaker 1: Sineck back with the game before that, the two of them, 149 00:08:38,080 --> 00:08:40,439 Speaker 1: and I know they had one games without those two 150 00:08:40,440 --> 00:08:45,559 Speaker 1: in the lineup, but it's immensely different. Just the addition 151 00:08:45,640 --> 00:08:48,240 Speaker 1: of Boldie, you know, on the penalty kill and it's 152 00:08:48,360 --> 00:08:49,920 Speaker 1: hitting Bucks out of mid air at the blue line 153 00:08:49,920 --> 00:08:52,160 Speaker 1: going the other ways, an offensive thread even when short handed. 154 00:08:52,920 --> 00:08:54,880 Speaker 1: The dimension he ads in the power play he gave, 155 00:08:55,000 --> 00:08:58,120 Speaker 1: he gives you another line going other than Caprice, Uff 156 00:08:58,160 --> 00:09:01,320 Speaker 1: and Zicarella. So even though the team lost, I was 157 00:09:01,320 --> 00:09:03,520 Speaker 1: still very encouraged by the way they played. 158 00:09:03,679 --> 00:09:06,599 Speaker 2: Very good and that's the two time defending champ for 159 00:09:06,720 --> 00:09:08,200 Speaker 2: a panther, right, and they wanted the last. 160 00:09:08,080 --> 00:09:10,679 Speaker 1: Year started a little bit this year, but Yessina Kachuk 161 00:09:10,679 --> 00:09:12,000 Speaker 1: has been injured for good. Chunk a bit. 162 00:09:12,000 --> 00:09:21,000 Speaker 4: But question number three, it's time now to consider the course. 163 00:09:23,679 --> 00:09:26,880 Speaker 1: With Scotti Scheffler's win in the American Express yesterday, not 164 00:09:26,920 --> 00:09:29,080 Speaker 1: only did he ear any lifetime membership on the PGA 165 00:09:29,120 --> 00:09:32,200 Speaker 1: Tour with his twentieth victory, but he also joined Jack 166 00:09:32,280 --> 00:09:35,360 Speaker 1: Nicholas and Tiger Woods as the only players to have 167 00:09:35,440 --> 00:09:38,599 Speaker 1: twenty PGA Tour titles and four majors before turning the 168 00:09:38,640 --> 00:09:42,760 Speaker 1: age of thirty. Common is Scotti Scheffler just as good 169 00:09:42,800 --> 00:09:44,920 Speaker 1: as Tiger Woods and Jack Nicholas. 170 00:09:44,480 --> 00:09:47,679 Speaker 2: When they were, you know, last few years they've been 171 00:09:47,800 --> 00:09:52,160 Speaker 2: sort of trying to make that comparison, and I understood it. 172 00:09:52,200 --> 00:09:54,720 Speaker 2: I didn't think it was preposterous, but it's the old 173 00:09:55,160 --> 00:09:57,000 Speaker 2: Let's slow down a little bit here. 174 00:09:56,840 --> 00:09:58,959 Speaker 3: Because we've seen players. 175 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:03,840 Speaker 2: Throughout the history of golf have really nice stretches. Right year, 176 00:10:03,920 --> 00:10:07,120 Speaker 2: two month or two, but particular year or two you go, well, 177 00:10:07,120 --> 00:10:09,320 Speaker 2: this guy's just so good he can't and then all 178 00:10:09,320 --> 00:10:11,680 Speaker 2: of a sudden, I mean, like how about the spief character. 179 00:10:11,800 --> 00:10:14,160 Speaker 2: That's a prime example, right, speed won a number of 180 00:10:14,160 --> 00:10:16,800 Speaker 2: majors short period of time. Everybody said, this guy's destined 181 00:10:16,800 --> 00:10:18,320 Speaker 2: to be the best player in golf, and he's going 182 00:10:18,320 --> 00:10:19,560 Speaker 2: to be amongst you all time greats. 183 00:10:20,400 --> 00:10:22,760 Speaker 3: Is he won a tournament in the last four or 184 00:10:22,760 --> 00:10:23,400 Speaker 3: five years. 185 00:10:23,280 --> 00:10:24,000 Speaker 1: Like it's been a while. 186 00:10:24,679 --> 00:10:27,560 Speaker 2: He's really just a nod And every time you watch 187 00:10:28,880 --> 00:10:31,640 Speaker 2: a tour event, every announcer goes, I think this is 188 00:10:31,720 --> 00:10:34,360 Speaker 2: the year he comes back. They keep saying that because 189 00:10:34,440 --> 00:10:36,040 Speaker 2: they know how towns that he is. 190 00:10:36,480 --> 00:10:37,520 Speaker 3: It's not as easy as that. 191 00:10:37,679 --> 00:10:40,840 Speaker 2: So I don't think that the comparisons are that far 192 00:10:40,880 --> 00:10:42,000 Speaker 2: fetched anymore, do you. 193 00:10:42,920 --> 00:10:44,360 Speaker 3: I don't know how you can say they are. 194 00:10:45,120 --> 00:10:47,760 Speaker 1: He's playing at Tiger Woods level, even Tweed from like 195 00:10:48,040 --> 00:10:53,960 Speaker 1: a golf guy that basically Scottie Scheffler's career is the 196 00:10:54,040 --> 00:10:56,440 Speaker 1: same as Tiger Woods's career up until this point. The 197 00:10:56,480 --> 00:10:59,880 Speaker 1: only difference was is Tiger Woods had a perfect golf 198 00:11:00,040 --> 00:11:04,800 Speaker 1: swing and was super cool, where Scotty doesn't have like 199 00:11:04,880 --> 00:11:10,079 Speaker 1: a pristine golf swing, doesn't really try to self promote 200 00:11:10,080 --> 00:11:11,920 Speaker 1: in any way, shape or form, right Like, he just 201 00:11:11,920 --> 00:11:13,480 Speaker 1: doesn't have a whole lot of vibe doom so that 202 00:11:13,480 --> 00:11:16,720 Speaker 1: people don't people don't consider them at Tiger's level, even 203 00:11:16,760 --> 00:11:20,720 Speaker 1: though from a pure golf standpoint, results wise, they're almost 204 00:11:20,760 --> 00:11:23,720 Speaker 1: the same. Yep, And I thought that was an interesting comment. 205 00:11:23,880 --> 00:11:26,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think there's something too that Tiger had that charisma. 206 00:11:27,200 --> 00:11:31,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, in that Scotty's blanding like he is blanding. 207 00:11:31,559 --> 00:11:34,760 Speaker 2: Like Yeah, and I would be more like teg your 208 00:11:34,800 --> 00:11:35,320 Speaker 2: hair was cool. 209 00:11:35,360 --> 00:11:37,760 Speaker 1: He had the fist pump kind of like the red shirt. 210 00:11:37,760 --> 00:11:38,760 Speaker 1: Would you compare him to me? 211 00:11:39,559 --> 00:11:40,320 Speaker 3: That's not kidd on the. 212 00:11:40,280 --> 00:11:41,959 Speaker 1: Golf course, I would yes, Well, you're a better putter. 213 00:11:43,880 --> 00:11:45,599 Speaker 2: I'm better than seventy five percent of the guys that 214 00:11:45,640 --> 00:11:57,839 Speaker 2: play on Yeah. 215 00:11:52,200 --> 00:11:54,480 Speaker 1: We all that one teacher who believed in us Show 216 00:11:54,520 --> 00:11:57,360 Speaker 1: your Gratitude with Fank of Teacher powered by donors Choose 217 00:11:58,000 --> 00:12:00,200 Speaker 1: nominated a public school teacher to win five dollars and 218 00:12:00,240 --> 00:12:03,920 Speaker 1: dollars for their classroom. 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Is he number? 228 00:13:06,960 --> 00:13:07,320 Speaker 1: Drake Man? 229 00:13:07,360 --> 00:13:07,560 Speaker 3: Yeah? 230 00:13:07,559 --> 00:13:10,000 Speaker 1: It was the number three three overall behind Caleb and 231 00:13:10,120 --> 00:13:10,800 Speaker 1: Jane Daniels. 232 00:13:10,800 --> 00:13:12,960 Speaker 2: And it looks like it looks like they've got there. 233 00:13:13,000 --> 00:13:15,120 Speaker 2: I mean, there's room for improvement. You know, he wasn't perfect, 234 00:13:15,720 --> 00:13:19,800 Speaker 2: but real, real talented kid. Looks like they have the 235 00:13:19,800 --> 00:13:25,520 Speaker 2: their quarterback of the future. You had their their opponent, 236 00:13:26,840 --> 00:13:29,120 Speaker 2: they've got their quarterback of the future. They think bo 237 00:13:29,280 --> 00:13:31,199 Speaker 2: Nick's not as good as May. You know, he kind 238 00:13:31,200 --> 00:13:33,040 Speaker 2: of rode behind a defense in a running game. But 239 00:13:33,080 --> 00:13:34,840 Speaker 2: he you know, he made throws, he made some comebacks. 240 00:13:34,840 --> 00:13:37,360 Speaker 2: He's got talent. Jury's still out on if he's going 241 00:13:37,400 --> 00:13:38,800 Speaker 2: to be, you know, one of the top quarterbacks in 242 00:13:38,800 --> 00:13:40,720 Speaker 2: the league. But of course he was out and then 243 00:13:40,760 --> 00:13:44,640 Speaker 2: he had to go with the Stidham character and he 244 00:13:44,679 --> 00:13:48,480 Speaker 2: had moments, but he made the awful play where he 245 00:13:48,559 --> 00:13:51,360 Speaker 2: should have taken the sack. I still don't know if 246 00:13:51,400 --> 00:13:55,319 Speaker 2: that was a backwards pass or not, though it was borderline, 247 00:13:55,320 --> 00:13:56,680 Speaker 2: they ruled at that and I got I don't have 248 00:13:56,679 --> 00:13:58,200 Speaker 2: any skin in the game, so I don't care. But 249 00:13:58,240 --> 00:13:59,800 Speaker 2: I kind of thought it was more of a forward 250 00:13:59,840 --> 00:14:02,200 Speaker 2: pa but it wasn't and it was ruled against. And 251 00:14:02,240 --> 00:14:10,680 Speaker 2: that was really the only reason that the Pagers were 252 00:14:10,720 --> 00:14:12,080 Speaker 2: able to score because they weren't able to move the 253 00:14:12,080 --> 00:14:14,440 Speaker 2: ball very well on I don't think they score touchdown 254 00:14:14,520 --> 00:14:16,720 Speaker 2: in that game if they don't, if they don't get 255 00:14:16,720 --> 00:14:20,800 Speaker 2: that great field position. Did they give him a touchdown 256 00:14:20,800 --> 00:14:23,480 Speaker 2: on the return to was it he picked it up 257 00:14:23,480 --> 00:14:24,280 Speaker 2: and went in, didn't hear? 258 00:14:25,400 --> 00:14:28,240 Speaker 1: Uh No, they blew it dead because they blew that dead. 259 00:14:28,280 --> 00:14:29,800 Speaker 1: They got that ball like the twelve year od left 260 00:14:29,840 --> 00:14:31,560 Speaker 1: and they scored. Drake May scored. 261 00:14:32,440 --> 00:14:37,720 Speaker 2: Before we continue on quarterbacks, then it's that going forward 262 00:14:37,720 --> 00:14:38,440 Speaker 2: on four thousand. 263 00:14:38,440 --> 00:14:40,640 Speaker 3: Stuff is so much more prevalent now in the NFL. 264 00:14:40,680 --> 00:14:43,320 Speaker 2: And I don't know if it started with Dan Campbell, 265 00:14:43,720 --> 00:14:45,840 Speaker 2: but I think that's when it really. 266 00:14:45,600 --> 00:14:49,800 Speaker 3: Started to become in vogue, right because. 267 00:14:49,600 --> 00:14:51,480 Speaker 2: You know, for that first two years under Campbell, the 268 00:14:51,520 --> 00:14:54,160 Speaker 2: Lions were doing it all the time, and they were 269 00:14:54,240 --> 00:14:57,080 Speaker 2: making it more times than not. And other teams have 270 00:14:57,160 --> 00:14:58,720 Speaker 2: started to do that, and I think it's not just 271 00:14:58,720 --> 00:15:00,640 Speaker 2: because of Campbell. I also think they look at saber 272 00:15:00,680 --> 00:15:02,280 Speaker 2: metrics and analytics and say, you. 273 00:15:02,240 --> 00:15:05,160 Speaker 3: Know that are off trying to hear you look back 274 00:15:05,200 --> 00:15:05,400 Speaker 3: on it. 275 00:15:05,400 --> 00:15:09,000 Speaker 2: And they tried to get Peyton Sean Payton to say, yeah, 276 00:15:09,040 --> 00:15:10,280 Speaker 2: I should have went for the field goal. 277 00:15:10,880 --> 00:15:12,280 Speaker 3: He did, but he didn't. 278 00:15:12,440 --> 00:15:14,360 Speaker 2: He said, yeah, you know, he tried to talk around 279 00:15:14,440 --> 00:15:16,960 Speaker 2: it because he, you know, he doesn't want to completely 280 00:15:16,960 --> 00:15:19,360 Speaker 2: throw himself under the bus. And maybe he's you know, 281 00:15:19,400 --> 00:15:21,440 Speaker 2: and I guess to be to be truthful, maybe he 282 00:15:21,520 --> 00:15:25,600 Speaker 2: really feels like, yeah, with the hindsight, maybe, but at 283 00:15:25,600 --> 00:15:29,400 Speaker 2: the time maybe maybe I don't. I don't really have 284 00:15:29,520 --> 00:15:33,680 Speaker 2: any issues with we're trying to pick up the first down, 285 00:15:34,560 --> 00:15:39,960 Speaker 2: but I do think sometimes and maybe, you know, he 286 00:15:40,160 --> 00:15:43,320 Speaker 2: said something I think in his postgame comments about you 287 00:15:43,400 --> 00:15:45,960 Speaker 2: got to look at who you're playing, how the game's going, 288 00:15:46,040 --> 00:15:49,400 Speaker 2: and this, that and the other thing. And I understand, 289 00:15:49,440 --> 00:15:52,480 Speaker 2: if you get a tuddy there, you're up fourteen nothing 290 00:15:52,680 --> 00:15:54,680 Speaker 2: and that might be enough in a game like that, 291 00:15:54,760 --> 00:15:59,440 Speaker 2: right sure, with your defense, But he went for he 292 00:15:59,480 --> 00:16:01,320 Speaker 2: decided not to go for the field goal. They didn't 293 00:16:01,320 --> 00:16:02,640 Speaker 2: get any points out of it, and they end up 294 00:16:02,640 --> 00:16:06,239 Speaker 2: losing by a field goal. And the kicking at that 295 00:16:06,600 --> 00:16:08,760 Speaker 2: point of the game was it was almost impossible to 296 00:16:08,840 --> 00:16:10,920 Speaker 2: kick a field goal. Winds are blowing, I don't know 297 00:16:10,920 --> 00:16:12,960 Speaker 2: how fat they look like, they were going twenty miles 298 00:16:12,960 --> 00:16:14,880 Speaker 2: an hour, snows going sideways. 299 00:16:15,440 --> 00:16:17,680 Speaker 3: There was just really difficult. Matter of fact, I don't. 300 00:16:17,480 --> 00:16:21,000 Speaker 2: Think anybody after the snow started, I don't think any 301 00:16:21,000 --> 00:16:23,440 Speaker 2: field goal attempts were were made. 302 00:16:24,040 --> 00:16:30,560 Speaker 3: And they lose. But then you wonder how long would 303 00:16:30,600 --> 00:16:31,240 Speaker 3: the game have gone. 304 00:16:31,360 --> 00:16:33,040 Speaker 2: Let's say they would have kicked a field goal then 305 00:16:33,040 --> 00:16:36,160 Speaker 2: and the game went to overtime at you know whatever, thirteen, thirteen, ten, ten, 306 00:16:36,200 --> 00:16:38,600 Speaker 2: whatever would have been. I mean, can you imagine how 307 00:16:38,640 --> 00:16:40,760 Speaker 2: long it may have taken before anybody scored any points 308 00:16:40,800 --> 00:16:43,400 Speaker 2: in that game because you can't kick field goals here 309 00:16:43,960 --> 00:16:45,520 Speaker 2: and some means you would have to score a toddy 310 00:16:45,600 --> 00:16:48,920 Speaker 2: and both defenses as strong as they were. Because that's 311 00:16:48,920 --> 00:16:50,520 Speaker 2: the game. It's not like it goes in the books 312 00:16:50,520 --> 00:16:52,480 Speaker 2: as a tie. It's not like in the regular season 313 00:16:52,480 --> 00:16:54,000 Speaker 2: in the NFL, where you played the ten minutes. If 314 00:16:54,000 --> 00:16:56,560 Speaker 2: its tie, just all go home and put they'd have 315 00:16:56,600 --> 00:16:58,600 Speaker 2: to keep playing that game could be still going on 316 00:16:58,680 --> 00:16:59,760 Speaker 2: now for crying out about. 317 00:17:02,040 --> 00:17:04,520 Speaker 1: But here's what I'll say about the fourth and one. Okay, 318 00:17:05,800 --> 00:17:07,440 Speaker 1: the math and the analytics are going to tell you 319 00:17:07,480 --> 00:17:09,240 Speaker 1: to go for it, right, They're gonna tell you fourth 320 00:17:09,280 --> 00:17:11,600 Speaker 1: and one from the twelve you have a higher percentage 321 00:17:11,680 --> 00:17:13,439 Speaker 1: chance of winning the game by going for it as 322 00:17:13,440 --> 00:17:18,320 Speaker 1: opposed to taking the three points. And maybe I am 323 00:17:18,400 --> 00:17:22,160 Speaker 1: speaking a little bit on hindsight here, but I would 324 00:17:22,160 --> 00:17:23,919 Speaker 1: maybe compare to how many times we've seen this with 325 00:17:23,920 --> 00:17:26,960 Speaker 1: like the Twins bullpen, where a starter is going great 326 00:17:27,000 --> 00:17:29,800 Speaker 1: for six innings and then they make a move for 327 00:17:29,800 --> 00:17:33,280 Speaker 1: a reliever in the seventh inning because well, the math 328 00:17:33,320 --> 00:17:35,440 Speaker 1: will tell us that the third time through the lineup, 329 00:17:37,240 --> 00:17:39,560 Speaker 1: the starter is gonna get rocked, and we want a 330 00:17:39,640 --> 00:17:42,240 Speaker 1: lefty against a lefty in this situation, when in fact 331 00:17:42,280 --> 00:17:43,959 Speaker 1: you're just watching the game and go, we our starters going, 332 00:17:44,000 --> 00:17:46,000 Speaker 1: why are we gonna pull them? And I would maybe 333 00:17:46,040 --> 00:17:51,800 Speaker 1: say the same thing for Denver is sometimes you might 334 00:17:51,840 --> 00:17:54,160 Speaker 1: have to just go against the math. Here the math 335 00:17:54,200 --> 00:17:56,359 Speaker 1: says to go for it, but you got to think 336 00:17:56,400 --> 00:17:59,679 Speaker 1: of all the situations regarding this is even though our 337 00:17:59,720 --> 00:18:02,280 Speaker 1: back quarterback has looked solid up until that point and 338 00:18:02,280 --> 00:18:06,960 Speaker 1: he's still a backup quarterback. Our defense is elite. Points 339 00:18:07,000 --> 00:18:10,240 Speaker 1: are probably going to be at a premium. And I'm 340 00:18:10,280 --> 00:18:12,840 Speaker 1: assuming Sean Payton talked to somebody within the team about 341 00:18:12,880 --> 00:18:16,040 Speaker 1: the weather, right, did they not talk about the weather forecast? 342 00:18:16,040 --> 00:18:17,800 Speaker 1: And go, you know, by the time the second half comes, 343 00:18:18,160 --> 00:18:21,600 Speaker 1: it's gonna be hard to get points. So getting up ten, 344 00:18:23,000 --> 00:18:26,840 Speaker 1: given all all, given the defense you have, given you're 345 00:18:26,880 --> 00:18:29,560 Speaker 1: playing at home, given that the weather's gonna turn awful 346 00:18:29,560 --> 00:18:31,600 Speaker 1: in the second half, ten points is a big lead 347 00:18:32,560 --> 00:18:34,720 Speaker 1: at that point. And so looking back, and like I said, 348 00:18:35,000 --> 00:18:38,080 Speaker 1: maybe I'm just speaking on hindsight, but I you know, 349 00:18:38,119 --> 00:18:40,439 Speaker 1: I do think that was a mistake then, even though 350 00:18:40,480 --> 00:18:43,800 Speaker 1: the math would tell you it was the right call. 351 00:18:44,680 --> 00:18:52,600 Speaker 2: Then I saw a story where the kicker for Denver, 352 00:18:52,640 --> 00:18:53,240 Speaker 2: what's his name? 353 00:18:55,520 --> 00:18:57,600 Speaker 1: What is he used to be his kicker at in 354 00:18:57,640 --> 00:18:58,200 Speaker 1: New Orleans. 355 00:18:59,440 --> 00:19:03,600 Speaker 3: I forget, Yeah, I guess it's not that important. He said, Well, 356 00:19:04,520 --> 00:19:05,520 Speaker 3: he blamed it on. 357 00:19:07,960 --> 00:19:08,000 Speaker 1: It. 358 00:19:08,880 --> 00:19:12,159 Speaker 2: Will He basically threw louts, kind of threw the holder 359 00:19:12,200 --> 00:19:15,240 Speaker 2: under the bus a little bit. He said, well, we were, 360 00:19:15,440 --> 00:19:17,960 Speaker 2: we were a yard closer to the line of scrimmage 361 00:19:18,880 --> 00:19:19,800 Speaker 2: than we would have been. 362 00:19:20,119 --> 00:19:23,479 Speaker 3: He got down in the wrong spot because you couldn't 363 00:19:23,520 --> 00:19:25,200 Speaker 3: see the yard lines right. 364 00:19:25,359 --> 00:19:27,920 Speaker 2: Normally you look and you say, there were like we're 365 00:19:27,920 --> 00:19:30,240 Speaker 2: on the thirty seven. I think you want to snap 366 00:19:30,280 --> 00:19:33,520 Speaker 2: at eight yards back. Is what it sounded like to me. 367 00:19:34,640 --> 00:19:35,439 Speaker 2: They didn't get it. 368 00:19:35,480 --> 00:19:37,280 Speaker 3: They just kind of guessed where it was, because if you. 369 00:19:37,240 --> 00:19:41,200 Speaker 2: Saw the replay, it was a good Yeah, it wasn't 370 00:19:41,320 --> 00:19:43,240 Speaker 2: like blocked down to the ground, but it was tipped 371 00:19:43,320 --> 00:19:46,040 Speaker 2: enough where it sent it off line, he claims. 372 00:19:46,040 --> 00:19:46,960 Speaker 3: And I think he's right. 373 00:19:47,359 --> 00:19:49,320 Speaker 2: Had they been backed that one more yard, that ball 374 00:19:49,320 --> 00:19:51,120 Speaker 2: would have got up a little quicker and he wouldn't 375 00:19:51,119 --> 00:19:53,120 Speaker 2: have blocked it and they would have tied right right. 376 00:19:53,720 --> 00:19:59,320 Speaker 3: But it kind of you know, So here's here's my 377 00:20:02,400 --> 00:20:05,280 Speaker 3: here's my advice to holders. 378 00:20:07,040 --> 00:20:09,000 Speaker 2: Either have a bushnel with you so that you can 379 00:20:09,080 --> 00:20:10,800 Speaker 2: take it and you can you can get down and 380 00:20:10,800 --> 00:20:12,680 Speaker 2: then you can look and see how far you are 381 00:20:12,720 --> 00:20:16,240 Speaker 2: from the football right on situations like that, though if 382 00:20:16,240 --> 00:20:19,240 Speaker 2: it's snowing, the bushnell probably wouldn't work, So tend Toby. 383 00:20:19,320 --> 00:20:20,120 Speaker 3: You know, we used to do. 384 00:20:20,119 --> 00:20:23,600 Speaker 2: Golfing before there was a range finder or there was GPS. 385 00:20:24,160 --> 00:20:27,320 Speaker 2: You would find the one fifty steak or the circle 386 00:20:27,320 --> 00:20:29,720 Speaker 2: in the middle, somebody's either circle or steak, and then 387 00:20:29,760 --> 00:20:31,000 Speaker 2: you would just walk it off. 388 00:20:30,840 --> 00:20:31,840 Speaker 3: Like I know that. 389 00:20:32,760 --> 00:20:34,960 Speaker 2: I know the distance of a stride that I take 390 00:20:35,080 --> 00:20:38,320 Speaker 2: is one yard, and you go fifty one, fifty two, 391 00:20:38,520 --> 00:20:41,560 Speaker 2: fifty three, fifty four, fifty five, fifty six. 392 00:20:41,359 --> 00:20:42,359 Speaker 3: On one fifty six. 393 00:20:42,640 --> 00:20:44,960 Speaker 2: He should have went behind the center and should have 394 00:20:45,040 --> 00:20:46,359 Speaker 2: walked off your yards. 395 00:20:46,400 --> 00:20:47,680 Speaker 3: That's what he should have done. 396 00:20:47,840 --> 00:20:50,600 Speaker 1: Seriously, if there might have been seven yards at that point, 397 00:20:50,600 --> 00:20:52,760 Speaker 1: if the center was already like bending over, yes, because 398 00:20:52,760 --> 00:20:54,199 Speaker 1: the ball is out in front of the center. 399 00:20:54,520 --> 00:20:57,080 Speaker 3: But that's what they needed to do, and they didn't 400 00:20:57,080 --> 00:20:58,960 Speaker 3: do it. 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Pass here in the common Man program 409 00:21:32,440 --> 00:21:34,600 Speaker 3: on common he is ten and B. 410 00:21:37,800 --> 00:21:40,520 Speaker 2: So you add backup quarterback making his first start of 411 00:21:40,560 --> 00:21:43,520 Speaker 2: the season. He threw his first pass of the year 412 00:21:45,400 --> 00:21:47,840 Speaker 2: in an AFC championship game, and he did. I it's 413 00:21:47,920 --> 00:21:49,720 Speaker 2: kind of what we expect that I you know, I'd 414 00:21:49,760 --> 00:21:51,960 Speaker 2: read a nice piece in The Athletic and I shared 415 00:21:52,600 --> 00:21:55,280 Speaker 2: much of it with you on the program in our 416 00:21:55,320 --> 00:22:01,120 Speaker 2: last segment Friday about how Stitty we all love Stitty 417 00:22:01,359 --> 00:22:04,600 Speaker 2: in the Mile High City. They all love Stitty in 418 00:22:04,680 --> 00:22:07,719 Speaker 2: the Mile High City, where he had some success at 419 00:22:07,720 --> 00:22:11,840 Speaker 2: the collegiate level playing for Auburn. He beat undefeated Georgia, 420 00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:14,560 Speaker 2: undefeated Alabama, a couple of really big games. He had 421 00:22:14,560 --> 00:22:17,320 Speaker 2: a nice performance against San Francisco I think was last year, 422 00:22:18,080 --> 00:22:20,240 Speaker 2: a way through for three hundred plus yards. 423 00:22:20,880 --> 00:22:24,640 Speaker 3: And I do think though that. 424 00:22:26,680 --> 00:22:31,840 Speaker 2: The game planned by Sean Payton, and this was even 425 00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:36,439 Speaker 2: before the weather started. He talked about Stidy, you'll be ready, 426 00:22:36,480 --> 00:22:38,600 Speaker 2: but they didn't really trust him much at all. They 427 00:22:38,640 --> 00:22:42,920 Speaker 2: tried to run the ball and even on their pass place. 428 00:22:42,960 --> 00:22:43,920 Speaker 3: Here's what I don't understand. 429 00:22:43,920 --> 00:22:46,720 Speaker 2: I tweeted this out Tennabye, and I know if people 430 00:22:46,760 --> 00:22:50,119 Speaker 2: are going to say you're a high school dropout, you 431 00:22:50,160 --> 00:22:53,200 Speaker 2: didn't play football past the seventh grade, despite the fact 432 00:22:53,200 --> 00:22:55,080 Speaker 2: that I was a fierce pass rushing rocket year Walter 433 00:22:55,160 --> 00:22:58,200 Speaker 2: run stopping defensive lineman and precise route running sure in 434 00:22:58,200 --> 00:23:02,800 Speaker 2: a pass catching tight end on the interception when stity 435 00:23:02,920 --> 00:23:06,400 Speaker 2: on that final time that Denver had the ball, he's 436 00:23:06,440 --> 00:23:09,080 Speaker 2: trying to hit a guy going full speed down the field. 437 00:23:09,200 --> 00:23:13,720 Speaker 2: Right and in those conditions, backup quarterback, they know you 438 00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:20,119 Speaker 2: gotta throw, you need some yards. Weather's terrible and he ain't. 439 00:23:21,400 --> 00:23:25,920 Speaker 2: He ain't Maddy Ice right, I don't understand, and tell 440 00:23:25,960 --> 00:23:26,880 Speaker 2: me if this is crazy. 441 00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:28,560 Speaker 3: I had a couple of people on Twitter. 442 00:23:28,880 --> 00:23:32,359 Speaker 2: They basically I said, I have a great football mind. 443 00:23:32,520 --> 00:23:35,240 Speaker 2: Do you know they used to the past patterns? Now 444 00:23:35,240 --> 00:23:37,000 Speaker 2: they have different names for them than what they used 445 00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:37,159 Speaker 2: to have. 446 00:23:37,400 --> 00:23:38,040 Speaker 3: When I was a. 447 00:23:38,040 --> 00:23:44,000 Speaker 2: Kid, we had square out, square in, flag pattern, post. 448 00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:47,399 Speaker 3: Pattern, and the old fashioned button hook. And you know 449 00:23:47,400 --> 00:23:48,359 Speaker 3: what the button hook was. 450 00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:51,040 Speaker 2: You would run down the field like ten yards as 451 00:23:51,119 --> 00:23:54,120 Speaker 2: fast as you could, bait the defensive back to think 452 00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:56,680 Speaker 2: you're going deep, then stop and turn around and catch 453 00:23:56,720 --> 00:23:59,840 Speaker 2: the ball. Why weren't they calling pat is that kind 454 00:23:59,840 --> 00:24:03,919 Speaker 2: of weather? That's the best pass pattern because the defensive 455 00:24:03,960 --> 00:24:05,840 Speaker 2: back is in no way, shape or form going to 456 00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:06,480 Speaker 2: be able to stop. 457 00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:09,120 Speaker 3: It's going to be hard for the receiver to stop too. 458 00:24:09,520 --> 00:24:13,280 Speaker 2: But the advantage in the run game and in the 459 00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:16,560 Speaker 2: past game, I think goes to the offense because the 460 00:24:16,600 --> 00:24:19,520 Speaker 2: receiver and the running back and the quarterback of course, 461 00:24:19,760 --> 00:24:23,240 Speaker 2: because he knows the patterns that have been called. They 462 00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:26,680 Speaker 2: know where the receiver is going to go on where 463 00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:27,640 Speaker 2: he's supposed to be. 464 00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:31,439 Speaker 3: The defensive back doesn't, it's harder for him to stop stop. 465 00:24:32,280 --> 00:24:34,159 Speaker 2: I just don't understand why you didn't call more of 466 00:24:34,160 --> 00:24:36,280 Speaker 2: those types of play quick ones where you have the 467 00:24:36,320 --> 00:24:39,639 Speaker 2: guy bait the wide receiver into going deep or the. 468 00:24:42,600 --> 00:24:44,399 Speaker 3: Defensive back. I think you're going deep and then turn in. 469 00:24:44,520 --> 00:24:46,200 Speaker 2: Now, that might only work for a player or two, 470 00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:48,080 Speaker 2: but it didn't make any sense to me. I don't 471 00:24:48,119 --> 00:24:51,679 Speaker 2: know why you're having Steady throw thirty yards downfield with 472 00:24:51,720 --> 00:24:53,760 Speaker 2: the game on the line in those kind of conditions. 473 00:24:54,200 --> 00:24:55,840 Speaker 3: Bad I think that's bad play call. 474 00:24:56,040 --> 00:25:00,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I think generally speaking at Denver doesn't have 475 00:25:00,600 --> 00:25:04,960 Speaker 1: a ton at the skill positions, so and you're going 476 00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:07,199 Speaker 1: up against a really good New England secondary, so I 477 00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:09,320 Speaker 1: think it's hard to beat these guys one on one. 478 00:25:09,840 --> 00:25:12,840 Speaker 1: You know, Tony Romo actually came up with what's probably 479 00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:15,800 Speaker 1: a good point in the fourth quarter, right, And I know, 480 00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:19,119 Speaker 1: huh a rare a rare timer is like, whoa, that 481 00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:21,800 Speaker 1: was a good point by Tony Romo. And I'd be 482 00:25:21,840 --> 00:25:24,399 Speaker 1: curious if anyone asked did him about it after the 483 00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:27,680 Speaker 1: game or you know, I'm not following Denver's press conferences. 484 00:25:27,720 --> 00:25:28,959 Speaker 1: I don't know if it's been talked about or not. 485 00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:32,320 Speaker 1: But Romo brought up that New England had those all 486 00:25:32,359 --> 00:25:35,919 Speaker 1: white jerseys and that's the snow on that field was 487 00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:40,119 Speaker 1: beyond white, right like. It wasn't like there was patches 488 00:25:40,119 --> 00:25:42,520 Speaker 1: of green. Lay was pure white. And I do imagine 489 00:25:42,600 --> 00:25:46,000 Speaker 1: it's hard to do a passing game when there's six 490 00:25:46,119 --> 00:25:48,800 Speaker 1: or seven guys and white, all white uniforms back there 491 00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:52,600 Speaker 1: and you can't really clearly see where they are. On 492 00:25:52,720 --> 00:25:57,119 Speaker 1: top of conditions, you know, it wasn't just a snow. 493 00:25:57,200 --> 00:25:59,120 Speaker 1: The wind was probably made it hard to throw the ball. 494 00:25:59,840 --> 00:26:02,960 Speaker 1: I think they just knew and we don't have the 495 00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:05,280 Speaker 1: conditions were only right for running the ball, but they 496 00:26:05,320 --> 00:26:07,119 Speaker 1: couldn't run the ball because they're up against the clock. 497 00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:09,360 Speaker 1: So I think they were just going we just got 498 00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:10,720 Speaker 1: to try to just throw it up to some guy 499 00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:12,480 Speaker 1: one on one. Either it makes a play or you 500 00:26:12,600 --> 00:26:15,160 Speaker 1: draw a pass interference, and that's our that's our best 501 00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:16,719 Speaker 1: way of getting into the field goal range because we're 502 00:26:16,760 --> 00:26:18,919 Speaker 1: not gonna be able to dink and dunk our way 503 00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:19,640 Speaker 1: down the field. 504 00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:20,439 Speaker 3: Unless you button hook it. 505 00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:23,000 Speaker 1: Maybe. 506 00:26:23,040 --> 00:26:24,280 Speaker 3: But yeah, well that's what I'm saying. 507 00:26:24,320 --> 00:26:26,720 Speaker 2: You know, so well, the way they did it didn't work, 508 00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:29,679 Speaker 2: so he threw an interception. So you're right, maybe that 509 00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:31,520 Speaker 2: was what they thought. I just think they thought wrong. 510 00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:34,159 Speaker 2: I think I could be an offensive coordinator in this league. 511 00:26:34,760 --> 00:26:36,399 Speaker 2: Give me the play sheet, I'll tell you what to do. 512 00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:39,480 Speaker 2: The old fashioned button hook works really well because when 513 00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:41,000 Speaker 2: you were a kid, didn't you run that play all 514 00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:41,320 Speaker 2: the time? 515 00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:42,960 Speaker 3: Or you do the one where and now. 516 00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:46,639 Speaker 2: Of course, to do this play, you have to make 517 00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:48,520 Speaker 2: sure you have enough time when you're when the guys 518 00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:50,800 Speaker 2: that are rushing the quarterback and Samlan football are going 519 00:26:51,119 --> 00:26:55,080 Speaker 2: one Mississippi, two, Mississippi three, Mississippi. It's a different than 520 00:26:55,080 --> 00:26:57,280 Speaker 2: in the NFL, so this is a little longer to develop. 521 00:26:57,720 --> 00:27:00,399 Speaker 2: But you do the old one, and you saw it yesterday, 522 00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:02,000 Speaker 2: where you do the study and you make it look 523 00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:04,920 Speaker 2: like you're gonna you're gonna turn and the defensive back 524 00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:07,320 Speaker 2: jumps and then you do the little you do the 525 00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:08,600 Speaker 2: little shimmy move, and then. 526 00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:09,760 Speaker 3: You take off down the field. 527 00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:13,160 Speaker 2: You bait him into thinking you're gonna do a button hook, 528 00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:16,160 Speaker 2: and then you take off down the field. They don't 529 00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:17,840 Speaker 2: They didn't do that on the play. They just had 530 00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:19,919 Speaker 2: you run right down the field and I'll try to 531 00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:23,000 Speaker 2: time you hit it. You to your point, can't see 532 00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:25,199 Speaker 2: the defender very well because he's wearing a white jersey. 533 00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:28,919 Speaker 2: You you got, you can't, especially the guy that hasn't 534 00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:33,199 Speaker 2: played enough. I think they made a mistake there, but 535 00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:36,600 Speaker 2: it might not have made a difference in the game anyway. Uh, 536 00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:38,160 Speaker 2: the second game was really good. 537 00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:41,000 Speaker 3: M so well. 538 00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:42,520 Speaker 2: By the way, let's go back to New England and 539 00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:44,320 Speaker 2: Denver just for a second. New England did it with 540 00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:47,800 Speaker 2: a draft pick. They were trying to do it with 541 00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:49,720 Speaker 2: a with a backup, and not because they wanted to, 542 00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:52,200 Speaker 2: they had no choice. And now here was Hall of 543 00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:57,760 Speaker 2: Fame quarterback against Sammy Darnold, a first round bust in 544 00:27:57,800 --> 00:27:59,560 Speaker 2: his first few years, played really well last year. We 545 00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:06,359 Speaker 2: know what happened again this year, and do you think Stafford, 546 00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:08,399 Speaker 2: Let's say they would have won that game, and he 547 00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:09,840 Speaker 2: goes on to win a big game. Do you think 548 00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:12,000 Speaker 2: he goes out on top or do you think he 549 00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:14,400 Speaker 2: comes back and plays again because he's got a chance 550 00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:16,399 Speaker 2: to win the MVP, so he's still playing at a 551 00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:17,359 Speaker 2: very high level. 552 00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:19,879 Speaker 3: And I don't know if that question will ever be 553 00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:20,679 Speaker 3: asked or answered. 554 00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:22,879 Speaker 1: He seemed relatively healthy this season. It's not like in 555 00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:25,760 Speaker 1: the past season there is been beat up all the time. Yeah, yeah, 556 00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:26,240 Speaker 1: come back. 557 00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:26,960 Speaker 3: Yeah. 558 00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:29,080 Speaker 2: And but I wonder what his decision would have been 559 00:28:29,119 --> 00:28:31,879 Speaker 2: because if you're on yeah, if had they let's say 560 00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:33,280 Speaker 2: they had wanted they went on to win the big game, 561 00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:34,639 Speaker 2: We'll never know if he would have just said, you 562 00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:36,320 Speaker 2: know what, it's been a great career in thirty seven, 563 00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:37,520 Speaker 2: I got my second big game. 564 00:28:37,560 --> 00:28:41,320 Speaker 3: Now I can't top this. You know, it's like tennebe. 565 00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:43,680 Speaker 2: I've told people before, if I could ever shoot even 566 00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:46,200 Speaker 2: par again, maybe I would just stop playing at that 567 00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:48,080 Speaker 2: point because I'm lying to myself, right, But you know 568 00:28:48,120 --> 00:28:50,520 Speaker 2: what I'm saying, go out on top? As a matter 569 00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:55,880 Speaker 2: of fact, was it Did Peyton Manning go out at 570 00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:58,920 Speaker 2: winning a big game? Did Elway do the same thing? 571 00:28:58,960 --> 00:28:59,320 Speaker 1: I think so? 572 00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:05,960 Speaker 3: Or they just said and Brady did? Right? Did Brady 573 00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:09,480 Speaker 3: he come back another year after winning at Tampa Bay. 574 00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:11,040 Speaker 1: I don't think Brady did. 575 00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:19,480 Speaker 3: He didn't go out on top, okay, but uh Manning 576 00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:23,000 Speaker 3: an l way did. Some guys think it's and you know, 577 00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:25,000 Speaker 3: there's something to be said for that. 578 00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:30,880 Speaker 2: To have the the last Like if if Rogers goes 579 00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:32,680 Speaker 2: out and I don't think he's going to have any 580 00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:37,920 Speaker 2: sleepless nights or his he's he's going to have many 581 00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:42,160 Speaker 2: regrets if he retires after this season, his last memory 582 00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:42,760 Speaker 2: is thrown. 583 00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:45,560 Speaker 3: An interception, right, And yes, it's okay, it's I. 584 00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:48,120 Speaker 2: Mean, not everybody can finish on top, but if you 585 00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:56,440 Speaker 2: have that opportunity, you do sometimes some people will. 586 00:29:56,320 --> 00:30:04,160 Speaker 3: Take it common. 587 00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:06,080 Speaker 2: Didn't you love the greatest QB run of all time, 588 00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:10,600 Speaker 2: the naked Bootleg? Absolutely you can assiduce this. I said 589 00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:15,200 Speaker 2: during that was for the first down by what's his face? 590 00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:23,800 Speaker 2: May may he made that bootleg play? I would have 591 00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:26,120 Speaker 2: called the same. I think it was a I think 592 00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:32,280 Speaker 2: it was Darnald didn't the Rams the games, there's all 593 00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:36,160 Speaker 2: the plays run together. Didn't Seattle gets stopped deep in 594 00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:40,640 Speaker 2: Rams territory once? I'm almost certain they did. And that 595 00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:45,040 Speaker 2: was where By the way, who's that running back for them. 596 00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:52,120 Speaker 1: For Seattle or Seattle ken Walker. He looked pretty good yesterday. 597 00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:53,560 Speaker 3: I don't know if he can do that every time 598 00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:54,080 Speaker 3: he plays. 599 00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:57,520 Speaker 1: The kind of had a rotational backfield with Charbonay, but 600 00:30:57,560 --> 00:30:58,560 Speaker 1: he was hurt last week. 601 00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:02,360 Speaker 2: You Marma couldn't the rams couldn't stop me, Roam couldn't stop. 602 00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:04,520 Speaker 2: Your daddy couldn't stop and the police couldn't stop him. 603 00:31:04,560 --> 00:31:08,560 Speaker 2: Nobody could stop this guy. He he was the in 604 00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:12,640 Speaker 2: that first quarter. He was instrumental in in in in 605 00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:15,840 Speaker 2: Seattle's success. But I really thought there was another time 606 00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:21,400 Speaker 2: that I like, if you're gonna call a play in 607 00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:27,120 Speaker 2: a critical situation where games online, I know that you could. 608 00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:29,080 Speaker 2: You know, you could also try too hard with the 609 00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:33,120 Speaker 2: trickeration trying to bamboozle the other team. I just like 610 00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:37,480 Speaker 2: giving my quarterback the option that is called r PO. Yeah, 611 00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:40,440 Speaker 2: I love our pos on fourth and goal line situations. 612 00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:43,120 Speaker 2: I just like those better. I unless you really feel 613 00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:48,360 Speaker 2: like your line is gonna but if you're lying, don't 614 00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:49,960 Speaker 2: break over in the hole. You at least with a 615 00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:51,880 Speaker 2: corback he can throw or he can run, you know. 616 00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:54,719 Speaker 1: But I feel like Denver kind of did that on 617 00:31:54,760 --> 00:31:56,680 Speaker 1: the fourth and one that got stopped on with Stedham. 618 00:31:57,840 --> 00:31:59,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, did they go with an RPO. 619 00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:04,360 Speaker 1: I thought it was, Yeah, it was that Stidham could 620 00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:06,040 Speaker 1: have either passed or ran it. But then you know, 621 00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:09,320 Speaker 1: there was so much pressure immediately a chance. 622 00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:10,840 Speaker 3: You know, that's yeah, that's the problem if you don't have. 623 00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:13,160 Speaker 1: Any they're trying to roll them out to the right to. 624 00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:25,280 Speaker 2: Uh this one, says Colm and talking about what routes 625 00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:28,000 Speaker 2: denver denver Shire rand reminds me of Warren. 626 00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:30,800 Speaker 3: I altoll. There's a little Warren there to it too, 627 00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:42,480 Speaker 3: But to me it's just it's. 628 00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:40,920 Speaker 1: Well, then what you do is because you mentioned you 629 00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:43,920 Speaker 1: did just do the button hook a time or two, right, yeah, 630 00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:46,440 Speaker 1: Well then after the second one you do the fake 631 00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:48,600 Speaker 1: button hook, you come around and you stop, you do 632 00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:50,640 Speaker 1: the pump fake and now he's got a little he's 633 00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:50,920 Speaker 1: got to. 634 00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:55,080 Speaker 2: Step on and it's fly pattern or hook and ladder 635 00:32:55,120 --> 00:32:56,800 Speaker 2: is one of the best plays in football, and that's 636 00:32:57,120 --> 00:33:00,840 Speaker 2: that's best done on a button hook correct. Tight end 637 00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:05,200 Speaker 2: goes down five six yards, turns around the defensive back. 638 00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:09,160 Speaker 2: Thing you you make a bite on the I'm going 639 00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:11,400 Speaker 2: out further than that. I'm going on a ten twelve, 640 00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:13,400 Speaker 2: fifteen yard pattern. We're trying to get the first dount. 641 00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:16,200 Speaker 2: We want to move the ball down the field, gets 642 00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:18,600 Speaker 2: the defensive back on his heels, turn around going the 643 00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:20,080 Speaker 2: other way, you stop, you catch it. 644 00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:22,400 Speaker 3: Then you have running back guy. You just pitch it 645 00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:22,880 Speaker 3: to him. 646 00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:25,680 Speaker 2: If they do that, Denver wins. If I'm coaching the team, 647 00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:30,680 Speaker 2: Denver wins that game. If I'm coaching the Denver Broncos, 648 00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:33,520 Speaker 2: they win that game because I don't call that. Let's 649 00:33:33,560 --> 00:33:36,480 Speaker 2: throw the ball straight down the hash mark with a 650 00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:41,520 Speaker 2: backup quarterback and a driving snowstorm. What are you thinking about? 651 00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:46,280 Speaker 2: It's just a it's a terrible play call by Sean Payton, 652 00:33:46,320 --> 00:33:46,720 Speaker 2: I think. 653 00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:50,880 Speaker 1: But yeah, so we have to stay to see Payton 654 00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:52,680 Speaker 1: I make the big Well that's. 655 00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:54,200 Speaker 2: The other thing too. I think a lot of us 656 00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:58,440 Speaker 2: here aren't aren't big fans of the Sean Payton character. 657 00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:01,920 Speaker 3: So I know we'll have plenty of time because we 658 00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:02,440 Speaker 3: got a week. 659 00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:05,600 Speaker 2: But we all of this week and then next Week've 660 00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:10,920 Speaker 2: got two weeks before the big game. Right, your early 661 00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:15,880 Speaker 2: prediction tenneby Shadow in New England. 662 00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:19,560 Speaker 1: Well, I mean, I'm I'm not saying anything different than 663 00:34:19,640 --> 00:34:22,080 Speaker 1: anyone who is watching the Seattle LA Rams game last 664 00:34:22,080 --> 00:34:23,920 Speaker 1: but that game didn't feel a lot like that was 665 00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:26,160 Speaker 1: for the those are the two best teams in football 666 00:34:26,200 --> 00:34:30,160 Speaker 1: last night. I think New England enters the big game 667 00:34:30,160 --> 00:34:31,520 Speaker 1: where I'm sure we're gonna hear all the stats the 668 00:34:31,560 --> 00:34:34,040 Speaker 1: next two weeks. Is this game is broken down endlessly. 669 00:34:34,080 --> 00:34:37,920 Speaker 1: But basically since nineteen seventy nine or something that it's 670 00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:40,879 Speaker 1: the least scoring offense in the playoffs we've ever seen 671 00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:44,719 Speaker 1: really since that's getting to a big game. They have 672 00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:48,520 Speaker 1: no conditions were a big part of it against Denver, 673 00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:52,320 Speaker 1: and let's face it, Denver's defensive elite, Houston's defensive elite. 674 00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:54,640 Speaker 1: So the two of the three teams they played, you know, 675 00:34:54,719 --> 00:35:00,160 Speaker 1: the Chargers have a good defense as well, But I 676 00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:01,880 Speaker 1: I just don't know if New England's going to have 677 00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:05,000 Speaker 1: enough firepower to go with Seattle. It's going to take 678 00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:06,640 Speaker 1: one of those to me, because New England does have 679 00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:10,160 Speaker 1: a good defense, m and it's going to take one 680 00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:13,800 Speaker 1: of those games where they force a fumble and you 681 00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:15,520 Speaker 1: get a scoop and score and go the other way 682 00:35:15,520 --> 00:35:16,399 Speaker 1: and win. 683 00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:19,200 Speaker 2: Because of that, well, that seems to be the smart 684 00:35:19,239 --> 00:35:26,279 Speaker 2: money says, because Seattle's offense is so good that New 685 00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:30,120 Speaker 2: England's going to have trouble outscoring keeping pace with him. 686 00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:31,480 Speaker 3: Right, which I get too. 687 00:35:31,719 --> 00:35:36,480 Speaker 2: But as much as I've extolled the virtues of Sam Donald, 688 00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:38,600 Speaker 2: in which I wish that old Sam. 689 00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:41,000 Speaker 3: Donald, who has an Army AEIO, would have been signed. 690 00:35:40,760 --> 00:35:43,919 Speaker 2: By the Vikings, it's still I think going. 691 00:35:43,840 --> 00:35:44,200 Speaker 3: To come to you. 692 00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:46,719 Speaker 2: You have a quarterback that's still relatively young in the 693 00:35:46,719 --> 00:35:47,320 Speaker 2: may character. 694 00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:48,520 Speaker 3: Right is this his second year? 695 00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:48,879 Speaker 1: Yeah? 696 00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:52,279 Speaker 2: Year two, year two, and you have a quarterback that, 697 00:35:53,040 --> 00:35:56,520 Speaker 2: let's face any he was a Boston until last season. 698 00:35:56,600 --> 00:35:57,879 Speaker 3: He's had two nice seasons in a. 699 00:35:57,840 --> 00:36:01,720 Speaker 2: Row because both defenses are both because New England's defense 700 00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:04,560 Speaker 2: is real good Seattle's. I mean, all four teams yesterday 701 00:36:04,600 --> 00:36:07,799 Speaker 2: had top ten defenses, right, I do think it's going 702 00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:10,399 Speaker 2: to be more than likely. And I know this isn't 703 00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:12,520 Speaker 2: going on a limps. This is how football games have decided, 704 00:36:12,520 --> 00:36:14,960 Speaker 2: big plays and turnovers. And I think if Sam Roberts 705 00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:20,319 Speaker 2: at all like yesterday, he showed no fear whatsoever he threw. 706 00:36:20,680 --> 00:36:23,680 Speaker 2: He had one throw that probably should have been picked 707 00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:26,960 Speaker 2: off by the Rams. Otherwise I think he kept the 708 00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:30,040 Speaker 2: ball out of the hed. He had a couple of 709 00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:31,000 Speaker 2: throws that weren't very good. 710 00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:33,080 Speaker 1: He was making some big ten throws though, but he 711 00:36:33,120 --> 00:36:34,799 Speaker 1: put tight windows exactly. 712 00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:36,520 Speaker 3: But my point is is he didn't. 713 00:36:36,640 --> 00:36:38,720 Speaker 2: He didn't do anything where you went, oh my gosh, 714 00:36:38,719 --> 00:36:40,200 Speaker 2: he got lucky there if it wouldn't have if this 715 00:36:40,600 --> 00:36:43,160 Speaker 2: he made big time throws and he didn't really put 716 00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:46,200 Speaker 2: the ball in danger at all, which is what everybody was, 717 00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:48,440 Speaker 2: especially here in Minnesota, was afraid of. They were afraid 718 00:36:48,480 --> 00:36:50,719 Speaker 2: of what he and face it, he turned it over 719 00:36:50,760 --> 00:36:54,480 Speaker 2: twenty times this past season. When you combine interceptions and 720 00:36:54,520 --> 00:36:57,920 Speaker 2: fumbles and so that has to be taken into the equation, 721 00:36:58,280 --> 00:37:01,400 Speaker 2: and that's where I think people were concerned with. But 722 00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:04,239 Speaker 2: just because you turn the ball over twenty times during 723 00:37:04,239 --> 00:37:05,880 Speaker 2: the regular season doesn't mean you're going to turn the 724 00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:07,759 Speaker 2: ball over during postseason. 725 00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:09,000 Speaker 3: And he has yet to have done so. 726 00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:12,120 Speaker 2: He had no turnovers yesterday, and he had no turnovers 727 00:37:12,160 --> 00:37:14,480 Speaker 2: the week before. And same thing with may young kid. 728 00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:17,200 Speaker 2: I mean, how will he be now he's he's he's 729 00:37:17,239 --> 00:37:20,080 Speaker 2: also in the he's in the MVP conversation. But I 730 00:37:20,120 --> 00:37:22,440 Speaker 2: do think the team that probably I think they're evenly 731 00:37:22,480 --> 00:37:24,640 Speaker 2: matched enough that I think whoever takes care of the 732 00:37:24,680 --> 00:37:26,640 Speaker 2: ball better is going to be the team that wins 733 00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:29,680 Speaker 2: and Sam could he could revert the Ghosts and Missus 734 00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:30,600 Speaker 2: Muir could come back. 735 00:37:30,760 --> 00:37:33,080 Speaker 3: That's an old school reference I probably shouldn't have used. 736 00:37:33,080 --> 00:37:38,239 Speaker 1: But he could also revert. And Seattle's defense is so good. 737 00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:39,359 Speaker 3: Yeah, well that's true too. 738 00:37:39,480 --> 00:37:43,960 Speaker 1: They can still win regardless. Yeah, I mean, there's Sam 739 00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:45,839 Speaker 1: has not been perfect all season, and yet they're still 740 00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:48,200 Speaker 1: winning games because I mean, you didn't see it last 741 00:37:48,239 --> 00:37:50,680 Speaker 1: night because Stafford is so brilliant, But that's an elite defense. 742 00:37:50,719 --> 00:37:54,279 Speaker 1: Stafford was dissecting last night, and their special teams are 743 00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:55,080 Speaker 1: good in Seattle too. 744 00:37:55,480 --> 00:37:57,720 Speaker 3: Who's the is his name? Woolan? 745 00:37:59,560 --> 00:38:04,480 Speaker 2: Of all the people on planet Earth, the happiest that 746 00:38:04,600 --> 00:38:09,000 Speaker 2: Seattle won that game was the defensive back. They stop 747 00:38:09,120 --> 00:38:12,800 Speaker 2: the Rams on a fourth and twelve. He starts taunting 748 00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:16,600 Speaker 2: the Rams bench they were getting the ball back. They 749 00:38:16,640 --> 00:38:19,320 Speaker 2: throw a flag and on the very next play Stafford 750 00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:22,560 Speaker 2: throws a touchdown pass to Puka Nakua and the Rams 751 00:38:22,560 --> 00:38:25,360 Speaker 2: have the lead. That you could tell the sideline was 752 00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:28,359 Speaker 2: none too happy with that character. So he basically because 753 00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:31,680 Speaker 2: he had to cock off and do the trash talk 754 00:38:31,760 --> 00:38:35,320 Speaker 2: and start flexing, he cost his team a tuddy could. 755 00:38:35,080 --> 00:38:36,040 Speaker 3: Have cost him the game. 756 00:38:36,200 --> 00:38:38,440 Speaker 2: And I talked about it with this is my whole 757 00:38:38,520 --> 00:38:42,440 Speaker 2: rant about It's not so much against the celebrations, the 758 00:38:42,520 --> 00:38:45,920 Speaker 2: choreograph celebrations, those are all you know, it's not my 759 00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:48,000 Speaker 2: cup of tea. But they can be humorous, and I 760 00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:50,640 Speaker 2: know the players like to. They're excited and they're happy, 761 00:38:50,719 --> 00:38:53,560 Speaker 2: especially the defense doesn't get a lot of scores during 762 00:38:53,560 --> 00:38:55,600 Speaker 2: the year, so for them to go down and celebrate 763 00:38:56,320 --> 00:39:00,239 Speaker 2: is all good one. But the flexing after every play, 764 00:39:00,320 --> 00:39:01,640 Speaker 2: no matter what, everyone. 765 00:39:01,520 --> 00:39:02,960 Speaker 3: Receiver that catches the ball has got to. 766 00:39:02,880 --> 00:39:05,800 Speaker 2: Stand up and do the old point down the field 767 00:39:05,920 --> 00:39:08,920 Speaker 2: like he you know, and and that's okay. And then 768 00:39:08,920 --> 00:39:10,560 Speaker 2: they got to get up and they got to get 769 00:39:10,560 --> 00:39:13,000 Speaker 2: in guys faces for making There was a game last week. 770 00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:14,640 Speaker 2: I put it in my notebook. I can't remember who 771 00:39:14,680 --> 00:39:21,200 Speaker 2: the player was and which game it was. But he 772 00:39:21,200 --> 00:39:27,200 Speaker 2: he gives up, he misses a tackle, a horrible one. 773 00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:28,239 Speaker 3: The team gets a first down. 774 00:39:28,440 --> 00:39:30,560 Speaker 2: Then he breaks up a play the next time, and 775 00:39:30,560 --> 00:39:34,720 Speaker 2: he's he's and he's preening and and and and flexing. 776 00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:38,240 Speaker 2: I'm thinking, dude, you just were bird on the last 777 00:39:38,280 --> 00:39:40,800 Speaker 2: play that kept their drive alive for about fifteen or 778 00:39:40,840 --> 00:39:43,760 Speaker 2: twenty yards, and now you make a hit and you're celebrating. Dude, 779 00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:46,160 Speaker 2: just go back to the huddle and keep playing. You 780 00:39:46,200 --> 00:39:50,279 Speaker 2: can't take the individual play. It's I just I don't know. 781 00:39:50,360 --> 00:39:53,320 Speaker 2: It's it's saying that Woolen guy, he he could have 782 00:39:53,400 --> 00:39:55,239 Speaker 2: lost the game. For matter of fact, I thought he 783 00:39:55,280 --> 00:39:56,359 Speaker 2: was going to cost him the game. 784 00:39:57,000 --> 00:40:00,640 Speaker 1: So I will say, stupid play by that guy, right 785 00:40:00,680 --> 00:40:04,000 Speaker 1: like you, They call that all the time if you're 786 00:40:04,600 --> 00:40:09,279 Speaker 1: further flexing at the other bench. That being said, these 787 00:40:09,320 --> 00:40:11,640 Speaker 1: guys not they coock off after every play. No, it's 788 00:40:11,640 --> 00:40:14,000 Speaker 1: not always directed right to the sideline, but they are, 789 00:40:14,200 --> 00:40:16,120 Speaker 1: especially in the playoffs. I feel like they think they 790 00:40:16,160 --> 00:40:17,399 Speaker 1: can do it a little bit more and get away 791 00:40:17,400 --> 00:40:19,879 Speaker 1: with it NonStop. If a defender is making a play, 792 00:40:19,920 --> 00:40:22,400 Speaker 1: he's making comments to the wide receiver, making comments to 793 00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:25,480 Speaker 1: the quarterback. They are doing this every play. So I 794 00:40:25,480 --> 00:40:28,919 Speaker 1: do find it interesting when referees sometimes choose to call 795 00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:31,120 Speaker 1: it and when they're letting it go. A good chunk 796 00:40:31,120 --> 00:40:34,960 Speaker 1: of the time it's the right call based off the rules, 797 00:40:35,640 --> 00:40:37,080 Speaker 1: but I feel like they're breaking that rule all the 798 00:40:37,080 --> 00:40:41,400 Speaker 1: time they are, and they let it go all the 799 00:40:41,400 --> 00:40:41,960 Speaker 1: time they are. 800 00:40:42,120 --> 00:40:42,600 Speaker 3: They are. 801 00:40:44,320 --> 00:40:47,399 Speaker 2: I guess when if you watched him, it was more 802 00:40:47,600 --> 00:40:49,919 Speaker 2: because it was directed at the sideline. Yeah, and he 803 00:40:49,920 --> 00:40:52,359 Speaker 2: he did it for an extended period of time. Well 804 00:40:52,440 --> 00:40:54,360 Speaker 2: here's here's what else happened early in that game. I 805 00:40:54,400 --> 00:40:57,920 Speaker 2: think it might have been after the very first play. 806 00:40:58,040 --> 00:41:02,840 Speaker 2: I think a RAMS player shoved a Seattle player in 807 00:41:02,920 --> 00:41:04,279 Speaker 2: the shoulder pads and knocked him back. 808 00:41:04,320 --> 00:41:06,080 Speaker 3: I mean it was. 809 00:41:07,160 --> 00:41:09,960 Speaker 2: It was aggressive, and they the refs just jumped in 810 00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:11,279 Speaker 2: there and broke it up. And I looked at Deuce 811 00:41:11,360 --> 00:41:13,919 Speaker 2: and I said, well, you've set a precedent. Now if 812 00:41:13,960 --> 00:41:16,440 Speaker 2: some other player does that show, you can't throw a 813 00:41:16,480 --> 00:41:19,239 Speaker 2: flag because if you didn't throw a flag on that one, 814 00:41:19,280 --> 00:41:20,719 Speaker 2: and that was aggressive. I don't know if you if 815 00:41:20,719 --> 00:41:22,520 Speaker 2: you remember the play at all, but he went was 816 00:41:22,400 --> 00:41:23,480 Speaker 2: it was after the first play. 817 00:41:23,280 --> 00:41:24,799 Speaker 3: Of the game. He went up to the guy and 818 00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:25,680 Speaker 3: he went wham. 819 00:41:26,160 --> 00:41:27,640 Speaker 2: It hit him in the shoulder pads and the guy 820 00:41:27,680 --> 00:41:29,840 Speaker 2: fell back, and I thought, well, they're gonna throw a 821 00:41:29,840 --> 00:41:30,399 Speaker 2: flag there. 822 00:41:30,680 --> 00:41:31,400 Speaker 3: They didn't. 823 00:41:31,680 --> 00:41:33,719 Speaker 2: Well, if you don't throw a flag there, then you 824 00:41:33,800 --> 00:41:36,680 Speaker 2: can't throw a flag if another player, Yeah, because you've 825 00:41:36,680 --> 00:41:37,440 Speaker 2: set the standard. 826 00:41:37,600 --> 00:41:41,359 Speaker 3: So in that case, I had to throwing a flag there. 827 00:41:41,360 --> 00:41:44,359 Speaker 3: I mean that's I I. 828 00:41:44,280 --> 00:41:46,279 Speaker 2: Thought you weren't supposed to hit anybody after the play, 829 00:41:46,360 --> 00:41:49,520 Speaker 2: especially when you're when you're doing it in anger. It's 830 00:41:49,520 --> 00:41:53,640 Speaker 2: not even a football play at that point. So but nevertheless, 831 00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:55,200 Speaker 2: it doesn't matter anymore. 832 00:41:55,239 --> 00:41:57,080 Speaker 3: The games are in the books. Take a break, another 833 00:41:57,080 --> 00:41:57,480 Speaker 3: hour to go. 834 00:41:58,200 --> 00:41:58,279 Speaker 2: Uh. 835 00:41:58,400 --> 00:42:01,000 Speaker 3: The legendary one Mark rosen I won't be here tomorrow. 836 00:42:01,840 --> 00:42:03,680 Speaker 3: He's off on a little a. 837 00:42:05,360 --> 00:42:07,680 Speaker 2: He's getting tanned, rested, and ready for when he comes back. 838 00:42:08,680 --> 00:42:12,600 Speaker 2: Coaches Show tomorrow, Nico Medved curious. 839 00:42:12,320 --> 00:42:14,120 Speaker 3: To hear what he says. Let's talk a little lotter attendent. 840 00:42:14,160 --> 00:42:18,640 Speaker 2: If you watched the game on a Saturday, the Gophers 841 00:42:18,640 --> 00:42:23,720 Speaker 2: hosted number seven Nebraska, undefeated Nebraska the Freddie Hoiberg coached 842 00:42:24,120 --> 00:42:26,600 Speaker 2: Nebraska corn Huskers and was a tail of two halves. 843 00:42:26,640 --> 00:42:28,759 Speaker 2: We'll talk about that and other items when we return 844 00:42:28,800 --> 00:42:29,680 Speaker 2: to the Common Man Program 845 00:42:29,680 --> 00:42:30,000 Speaker 3: On the Fan