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Speaker 3: Guaranteed human It's your radio home of the Pittsburgh Steelers.

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Speaker 2: One of two point five DVE.

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Speaker 3: And the end of the Steelers season comes with the

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Speaker 3: end of an era and Mike Tomlin stepping down and

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Speaker 3: here to comment on that in all Things NFL and

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Speaker 3: Pittsburgh Sports from the Left Coast and the Football America

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Speaker 3: Podcast Ladies and Gentlemen, brought to you by the Gateway Clipper.

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Speaker 2: It's Dave damashek yay.

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Speaker 4: Ran out of gas like the Pittsburgh Steelers did. Thus

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Speaker 4: ends a mostly grand nineteen years with coach like Tomlin.

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Speaker 4: You guys heard about it. I can tell by what

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Speaker 4: how you Bowman? You just set me up there. You

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Speaker 4: guys heard the news? Yes, now now now they're now

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Speaker 4: they're lining up interviews with everyone under the sun. I

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Speaker 4: correct me if I'm wrong. All the talk about even

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Speaker 4: Marcus Freeman, that's aside from well, I don't think it's ridiculous.

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Speaker 4: It makes It makes a ton of sense, except for

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Speaker 4: the fact that it's unlikely, given the track record of

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Speaker 4: the Steelers that they would that they would have the

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Speaker 4: bank or be willing to offer up the bank that

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Speaker 4: it would take to extract him from Notre Dame and

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Speaker 4: get him over to Pittsburgh. I mean it feels to

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Speaker 4: me like it lines up to be one of the coordinators,

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Speaker 4: one of the many coordinators they're about to talk about.

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Speaker 4: By the way, can I self promote very quickly? You

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Speaker 4: mentioned Football America Maurice Jones Drew, former Jacksonville Jaguar tormentor

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Speaker 4: of the Pittsburgh Steelers, and all of that is now

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Speaker 4: the rams or analyst on the radio, and he's on

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Speaker 4: Football America today and we go all in on Shoela

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Speaker 4: and the mystery man nat she has and whether or

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Speaker 4: not he might be a fit in Pittsburgh, PA. Spoiler alert,

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Speaker 4: I think he is.

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Speaker 2: He's got to be a guy, right, I mean it's

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Speaker 2: because of his name. Yeah, she has Davey Gauget.

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Speaker 4: You see, she has got to go for it more. Dude,

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Speaker 4: Why what don't he does? Don't he know? The twenty

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Speaker 4: first entry? And we go for it on un fortunate

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Speaker 4: two from here on, By the way, quickly, I know

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Speaker 4: there's all the intrigue about this, and the Tomlin story

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Speaker 4: rightly has obscured the events twelve hours prior. But have

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Speaker 4: you guys really spent time talking about what happened on

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Speaker 4: Monday night, you know, piece by piece and just how

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Speaker 4: vexing and you know, as we talk about was this deserved?

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Speaker 4: Should Tomlin have moved on? Or are Steelers fan's gonna

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Speaker 4: regret that they pounded the table some of them did

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Speaker 4: to move on from Tom when and all of that.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I think that game is a is another

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Speaker 4: chapter in why Steelers fans are so frustrated and no

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Speaker 4: question at seven I mean that, But but I think

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Speaker 4: we've like moved on past that. Now it's become a

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Speaker 4: more global assessment of the nineteen years in total. And

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Speaker 4: really I mean that that game was the Texans are mighty.

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Speaker 4: They really are sort of like the twenty seventeen Jacksonville

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Speaker 4: Jaguars who were all defense. And you know, I hate

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Speaker 4: to say out loud and into the phone to you

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Speaker 4: guys to compare CJ. Strout to Blake Bortles, but that's

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Speaker 4: essentially what it was on Monday night.

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Speaker 2: There's their QB.

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Speaker 4: I mean, he did his GD best to give the

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Speaker 4: game away repeatedly, and they go to the locker room

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Speaker 4: at seven to six, and all of the should have

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Speaker 4: capitalized on those turnovers and everything else. I mean, at minimum,

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Speaker 4: I think the conversation has a real chance about Mike

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Speaker 4: Tomlin's future. I think he steps down even if he

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Speaker 3: You know that was pretty He clearly had decided before

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Speaker 2: Yes, okay, I.

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Speaker 4: Don't think it had anything to do with that result

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Speaker 4: least until this time next week for us to be

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Speaker 4: having this conversation. But I really think that it may

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Speaker 4: be kind of sort of boils down to DK Metcalf

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Speaker 4: dropping that ball late in the first quarter. I know

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Speaker 4: that's crazy, but if it is a lot, he catches

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Speaker 4: ten nothing. What evidence is there that that that that

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Speaker 4: up to the box Borough right now not for that

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Speaker 3: I I am with you, but also the evidence to

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Speaker 3: that drop. I don't think it had to do with

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Speaker 3: Uh you know, are they as risky and put themselves

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Speaker 3: don't think if you're dropping back the pass, you were

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think I wish two things would have happened.

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Speaker 5: I wish Metcalf would have caught that ball, and I

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Speaker 4: I mean, you know that's the other thing.

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Speaker 2: One is one day, the other is all of them.

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Speaker 5: It's not a terrible point because I think if you

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Speaker 2: They were actually run the ball early in the game

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Speaker 5: a chief scored. You know, it could have worked out differently.

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Speaker 5: I'm not gonna I'm not going to argue that point.

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Speaker 4: I mean, now, if you reflect back on the whole game,

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Speaker 4: story is, you know, coming out of that game is

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Speaker 4: you know, we talked about it last week.

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Speaker 6: Obviously, you know.

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Speaker 4: People wanted to delude themselves into believing that Aaron Rodgers

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Speaker 4: Aaron Rodgers is in his forties and doesn't want to

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Speaker 4: and they heated him up, and he's stunk. That's the

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Speaker 4: end of the Steelers offensive story of twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 4: It was always going to be that. So anybody who

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Speaker 4: Bowl run was was being silly. The other thing is, though,

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Speaker 2: Him half the ball. They'd been going to Boston.

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Speaker 4: Well right, but but yeah, well then I mean because

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Speaker 4: Marks inexcusable, like we can we can point at Aaron

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Speaker 4: it out against the superhero quarterbacks of the AFC, well

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Speaker 4: they showed up counterpointensive points. Because the Texans are not

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Speaker 4: you know, you got to give the Steelers a break.

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Speaker 4: That Texans defense is great. The Steelers against that defense

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Speaker 7: I thought they made a great point because I thought

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Speaker 7: that game, but when when we really need to stop,

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Speaker 7: the defense didn't do it. And I thought there's a

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Speaker 2: Kirk, yeah killed him.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, right, But just any time we need like you know,

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Speaker 4: if you take him away, really, what is that Texans

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Speaker 4: you just said, not much, but they did enough in

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Speaker 4: running the ball. That one touchdown drive, you know, was

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Speaker 4: enough in what everybody knew. With a total of thirty

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Speaker 4: a big time game, so nobody expected this to be

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Speaker 4: indictment of Mike Tomlin in January, and whether it is

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Speaker 3: Like Tomlin now we've been talking about it all week.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll just add this, Dave.

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Speaker 3: Oh well, Howard's gonna be great. So let me ask

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Speaker 4: It's very clear that the path to the straight line

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Speaker 4: A safer gig in sports than Pittsburgh Steelers head coach?

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Speaker 4: I mean, it's so foolish. It's the same thing that

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Speaker 4: So of course Ben Johnson would have been open to that,

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Speaker 4: So I don't worry about that. I do worry about

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Speaker 4: extracting Marcus Freeman Kubiak makes a ton of sense.

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Speaker 2: I hear you on that.

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Speaker 2: As it werethetic thing. I don't know.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, if you like, if you like, if you buy

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Speaker 4: Clint Kubiak in the room, I've never met the man.

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Speaker 4: If you like that, I mean he fits what we're

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Speaker 4: I mean, can you imagine that one year later, after

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Speaker 4: have to wait until next year. That's when the QB

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Speaker 4: How long are you going to try to kick this

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Speaker 4: It didn't work out. That doesn't mean you now never

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Speaker 4: Oh great, you created depth on the defensive front. Get

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Speaker 4: You really solve that long term. You need a quarterback,

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Speaker 6: That's how it works in the NFL. Now, what else?

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Speaker 4: What are we talking about?

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Speaker 6: Otherwise?

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Speaker 2: Will Howard is not that guy?

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Speaker 3: Is that what you're trying to tell Mellard?

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Speaker 4: Will Howard? I mean, how sad and pathetic? Can we

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Speaker 3: Because I greatly weigh your opinion on matters in terms

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Speaker 4: I think I hit real well last week telling you

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Speaker 4: Oh no, I'm a man of many colors, bowman. Now

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Speaker 3: Forty nine ers in the Seahawks is the Saturday night game.

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Speaker 4: Well, you know, I talk about the curse is supposed

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Speaker 4: I like him to cover The Niners have some weird

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Speaker 4: I mean, Kyle Shanahan is maybe the best coach in

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Speaker 4: I'll take the Hawks, and I like him to.

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Speaker 4: the Rams are getting their guys back.

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Speaker 6: Now.

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Speaker 4: I like the Rams to win the game, survive the cold,

440
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Speaker 4: but if they lose, I think it'll be you know,

441
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Speaker 4: people always do that thing, like you know, the guys

442
00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:25,159
Speaker 4: on the Bears are also from Florida and Texas and

443
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Speaker 4: California too. Yeah, but also I am from Pittsburgh and

444
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Speaker 4: I live in LA and when it gets to be

445
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Speaker 4: about sixty degrees now, I'm.

446
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Speaker 6: Like, whoa, it's chilly out here.

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Speaker 4: Your body adjusts the thing. If your very few are

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Speaker 4: out in Chicago every day, you kind of get used

449
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Speaker 4: to being in the Chicago weather. I lived there, and

450
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Speaker 4: then I got used to living in LA weather. I

451
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Speaker 4: think that the that Stafford and all those cats are

452
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Speaker 4: going to go up there and be like, well, it's

453
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Speaker 4: chilly out here, and they're.

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Speaker 6: Like, it's it's just Sunday.

455
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Speaker 4: So it was just cold like this the other day too.

456
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Speaker 4: Your body adjusts to it. So I think that's the

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Speaker 4: puncher's chance of Bears.

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Speaker 2: Have so you have Broncos forty nine ers with the points.

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Speaker 4: Yep, no, no, no, no, Seahawks.

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Speaker 2: Okay.

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Speaker 4: I think and by the way, that reckoning Rams should

462
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Speaker 4: be the one seed. No team's got to be kicking

463
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Speaker 4: themselves more. They should have been the one seed. They

464
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Speaker 4: shouldn't have been playing last week. They shouldn't be playing

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Speaker 4: in Chile Chicago this week. They should be in Sofi

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Speaker 4: Stadium at home. Here they are, though, I think they

467
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Speaker 4: get to the other side. I think they get the

468
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Speaker 4: rematch that it kind of spiritually they deserve that weird

469
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Speaker 4: two point conversion and all that craft. If you remember

470
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Speaker 4: from a month ago that gave Sea, that basically gave

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Speaker 4: Seattle the one seed. I think you get the Rams

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Speaker 4: Seahawks rematch, and I think that'll be pretty cheap.

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Speaker 3: What is your worst ever uber driver experience or rideshare

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Speaker 3: driver of anything?

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Speaker 1: Oh?

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Speaker 6: I caught the tail under that you are right, Randy,

498
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Speaker 6: like the like when we go we see you know

499
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Speaker 6: the rough and route fights in West Virginia if we're

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Speaker 6: on the road, and like even if you're in a

501
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Speaker 6: college town, the Uber driver is just like a dude

502
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Speaker 6: who basically is taking a break from like eating dinner.

503
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Speaker 6: So you'll just like get in the car and and

504
00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:15,439
Speaker 6: it'd be like, oh, I forgot you know, I'm just

505
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Speaker 6: actually heading to Popeye to get my dinner and I'm

506
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Speaker 6: gonna drop you off before. And then if you're in

507
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Speaker 6: a big city, it's it's a little more formal. I

508
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Speaker 6: haven't had a lot of bad ones. I had one.

509
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Speaker 6: I was on the I. It was like our fault.

510
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Speaker 6: It was in Chicago. There's in him and Indiana, which

511
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Speaker 6: is right across the border. We're actually there trying to

512
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Speaker 6: build a new Bear Stadium. There's a casino. So we

513
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Speaker 6: would sometimes go to the casino late at night if

514
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Speaker 6: we're feeling good and having a good night. One time

515
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Speaker 6: we went and my buddy was was too drunk and

516
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Speaker 6: he was like when we got into Uber, We're like, dude,

517
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Speaker 6: are you okay? Can you handle this? He's like, I'm fine,

518
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Speaker 6: I'm fine, I'm fine. We drove twenty five minutes. We

519
00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:56,320
Speaker 6: were pulling into the casino and he was sitting back

520
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Speaker 6: middle seat and he just puked all over reward and

521
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Speaker 6: I was just like, so we So we get out

522
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Speaker 6: of the car and I just give like all the

523
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Speaker 6: money I was bringing a cacio like I think I

524
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Speaker 6: had like a thousand bucks. I just handed it to

525
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Speaker 6: the Uber driver. I was like, I'm so sorry, man,

526
00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:13,840
Speaker 6: and then just got back and went back to Chicago

527
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Speaker 6: with a different Uber. It was the worst.

528
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Speaker 3: That one time I put a friend in an Uber

529
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Speaker 3: and she had been way overserved.

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Speaker 2: This was after a show.

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Speaker 3: That we had done, and I was like, you are

532
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Speaker 3: not driving home and she's like thank you, and I'm like,

533
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Speaker 3: I'll take care of it.

534
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Speaker 2: I got her an Uber.

535
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Speaker 3: I get home an hour later, you know, after I'm

536
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Speaker 3: done with whatever, and I get a charge on my

537
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Speaker 3: phone for one hundred and fifty dollars.

538
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Speaker 2: And I was like, what is this? She threw up

539
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Speaker 2: in the uber that I got. And you know, they

540
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Speaker 2: sent me pictures to prove it. They're like, yeah, you

541
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Speaker 2: threw up in the uber.

542
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Speaker 3: Here the pictures, here's your charge.

543
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Speaker 6: And you know what's funny is I actually I bigly

544
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Speaker 6: remember one of my my friends got scammed once where

545
00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:01,840
Speaker 6: he he figured it out, he like deduced it, but

546
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Speaker 6: some Uber drivers have scammed people where if they pick

547
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Speaker 6: up someone drunk enough, they'll like throw a bunch of

548
00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:11,640
Speaker 6: like spaghetti at the side of their car and then

549
00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:14,639
Speaker 6: take the picture and send it to the person like

550
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Speaker 6: you threw up, even though they didn't actually a genius scam.

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Speaker 6: That genius scam.

552
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Speaker 3: Now, I'm yeah, all right, So there's tons of stuff

553
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Speaker 3: to talk about this morning, but I'm gonna lead off

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Speaker 3: with Bob Weir. Yeah, your thoughts on on Bob's passing

555
00:28:30,800 --> 00:28:33,480
Speaker 3: and when you found out is during the Bears game.

556
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Speaker 2: That couldn't have been great?

557
00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:39,920
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, it was. It was. It was like like

558
00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:42,760
Speaker 6: we were on the sideline for the Bears Packers game

559
00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:44,960
Speaker 6: and I got a text saying Bob Weird died from

560
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Speaker 6: my from my cousin. I was like, oh my god.

561
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Speaker 6: And it it didn't fully hit me until like Monday

562
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Speaker 6: because of the Bears Packers game and wild Card weekend.

563
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Speaker 6: It's I think the thing I keep going back to

564
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Speaker 6: is like the gratitude I have for Bob Weird. Yeah,

565
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Speaker 6: and you know when when Jerry died in nineteeney five,

566
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Speaker 6: I'm forty years old, so I was ten years old

567
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Speaker 6: when Jerry died. I never got to see The Grateful

568
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Speaker 6: Dead the first iteration. You know, there's a world where uh,

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Speaker 6: some of these guys are like, you know what, whatever,

570
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Speaker 6: we're gonna stop. But Bob Weir was just so committed

571
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Speaker 6: to the stage, the fans. There's a very good argument

572
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Speaker 6: that he played live music for more people than anyone

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Speaker 6: else on this I agree. And it's it's you know,

574
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Speaker 6: it's all taped like that's the thing too, It's like

575
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Speaker 6: he shared it with everyone, and so it's really sad

576
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Speaker 6: just because it feels like kind of the end of

577
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Speaker 6: a chapter. But that's that's the whole you know, ethos

578
00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:42,520
Speaker 6: of the Grateful Dead is the music never stops, so

579
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Speaker 6: that he'll live on forever.

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Speaker 3: In that way, I my my brothers would be Sturgil

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Speaker 3: tours with Dead and Company.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, I hope they keep doing it. I really did,

583
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Speaker 6: because it is special and it's yeah, and it's special

584
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Speaker 6: and it's it's it's just great you know music and

585
00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:04,480
Speaker 6: the stories behind it. So but it was it was

586
00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:06,760
Speaker 6: definitely sad, and I was lucky enough to see him,

587
00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:09,320
Speaker 6: uh last summer, so I got to see one of it,

588
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Speaker 6: you know, whatever how many handful of conference he had left,

589
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Speaker 6: but uh yeah, he's just Bob Wears, an all time legend.

590
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Speaker 6: And it's just weird when someone because I'm not a

591
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Speaker 6: big celebrity death guy, you know, like when celebrity died

592
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Speaker 6: and everyone's like, oh my god, it's like, well, I

593
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Speaker 6: don't know that person. Bob weirs in that camp where

594
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Speaker 6: it's like he's a huge part of my life. So

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Speaker 6: I do feel something for this.

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Speaker 2: My therapist offered her condolences to me.

597
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Speaker 3: I saw that Bob Weird died, and I just want

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Speaker 3: to tell you I thought of you, and I'm sorry.

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Speaker 6: That's a good therapist.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I'm like, I'm doing okay, you know, but thanks.

601
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Speaker 3: I appreciate you. Weighing in with Mike Tomlin, it's similar.

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Speaker 3: I have nothing but gratitude for all that he did,

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Speaker 3: and also, well, I think it was time for a

604
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Speaker 3: change here, and I think you you nailed it on

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Speaker 3: pardon my take, Ian describing what it would have been

606
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Speaker 3: like had he not been so quick to act.

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Speaker 6: Right. That was the thing that I think Mike Tomlin

608
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Speaker 6: did correctly, because you could sense and you could you

609
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Speaker 6: could make the argument that it already had happened in

610
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Speaker 6: the last year or two but I think you guys

611
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Speaker 6: were all the Steelers fans. I know it was a

612
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Speaker 6: lot of we really wish Mike Tomalin would you know,

613
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Speaker 6: they would fire him, but not to that fervor pitch

614
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Speaker 6: where it's like, you know, bloodlust. This guy's the worst.

615
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Speaker 6: Get him out of here. And I think if he

616
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Speaker 6: had stayed one more year and he had run it back,

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Speaker 6: I think it would have reached that point where then

618
00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:39,440
Speaker 6: it becomes bad feelings and bad times. And so I

619
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Speaker 6: think he was so smart to step away, because, let's

620
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Speaker 6: be honest, like it is, You're nothing has changed. You're

621
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Speaker 6: our guy, my guy Nick Turanni who I do the

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Speaker 6: act with and wake up Barsnool, who's He's from William, West, Virginia.

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Speaker 6: He's diehard Steelers fan. He said the one good thing

624
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Speaker 6: about the Mike Tomlin era, outside of obviously the Super

625
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Speaker 6: Bowl and you know, the beginning of it when he won,

626
00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:05,000
Speaker 6: he said that every season was so similar that it

627
00:32:05,080 --> 00:32:08,120
Speaker 6: actually made it like the time is not passing. He's

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Speaker 6: like a lot of your life you spend being like

629
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Speaker 6: wanting to slow down time, and Mike Tomlin Steelers actually

630
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Speaker 6: slowed down time for the last eight years because you

631
00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:19,920
Speaker 6: didn't really know where you were in your life because

632
00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:21,640
Speaker 6: every year was just like, let's go nine to eight

633
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Speaker 6: and get boat races.

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Speaker 2: To the playoffs. Yeah. Yeah, there's good and bad to that,

635
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Speaker 2: no doubt.

636
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Speaker 3: But now we're just tearing down the barrel of what

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Speaker 3: Bears fans had to deal with for a while. I

638
00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:33,680
Speaker 3: think it's likely we have a couple of years of

639
00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:35,920
Speaker 3: trying to figure it out with whoever the new coach is.

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Speaker 3: Do you have some tips for Steelers fans on how

641
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Speaker 3: to endure?

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Speaker 6: This is crazy that we're having this conversation that the

643
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Speaker 6: script has slipped. Now, you guys can you guys can

644
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Speaker 6: endure more than a couple of years. Okay, let's be

645
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Speaker 6: honest here, because it wasn't just a couple of years

646
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Speaker 6: for the Bears either. It's, uh, you gotta stink, you

647
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Speaker 6: gotta stink. I mean, look at what we went through

648
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Speaker 6: even the last ten years, where we stunk and we

649
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Speaker 6: got Mitch Trubisky and then we stunk, and then we

650
00:33:03,040 --> 00:33:05,040
Speaker 6: got Justin Fields and we stunk and then we got

651
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Speaker 6: Kill What it's like our third shot at it in

652
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Speaker 6: terms of drafting high But yeah, I think the Steelers

653
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Speaker 6: have always been kind of screwing themselves over in the

654
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Speaker 6: fact that they're good enough that they don't they don't

655
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Speaker 6: get this high level pick. You got to get a quarterback.

656
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Speaker 6: So I think you should. I think, honestly, like I

657
00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:26,600
Speaker 6: think this might sound crazy, but I think Ben Roethlisberger

658
00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:29,200
Speaker 6: should coach the Steelers for the next two years and

659
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Speaker 6: and let him do whatever and and then just be like,

660
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Speaker 6: job well done, because he'll screw it up and then

661
00:33:37,040 --> 00:33:39,080
Speaker 6: you guys will get nice high draft picks and will

662
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Speaker 6: be perfect and it will also be kind of fun.

663
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Speaker 6: He could even play too. He'll he'll be a player

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Speaker 6: coach for two years. You don't think Steelers fans will

665
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Speaker 6: show up for Ben big Ben player coach and then

666
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Speaker 6: you get a really awesome pick and then you get

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Speaker 6: a real coach.

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Speaker 3: I mean, look, there is an entertainment factor in there

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Speaker 3: that I would be enjoyable. Don't get me wrong, I'm

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Speaker 3: not sure that that's how Art Rooney went to proceed,

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Speaker 3: but I have to tell you I'm happy for you

672
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Speaker 3: as a Bears fan. That was one of the greatest

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Speaker 3: football games I've ever watched, and given what was on

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Speaker 3: the line, Caleb Williams might have completed the most impressive

675
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Speaker 3: pass not just of this year in recent memory, on

676
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Speaker 3: fourth and eighth it was it.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, it was fourth and eight through Romadon's day.

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Speaker 6: I was there at Soldier Field. I'm going again on Sunday.

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Speaker 6: It was so it was so electric, and it was

680
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Speaker 6: it was a it was just like a cathartic moment

681
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Speaker 6: of just because it was what's the stake with the Packers.

682
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Speaker 6: The Bears hadn't won a playoff game in fifteen years.

683
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Speaker 6: Caleb Williams, all the doubters, all the haters, everything. I

684
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Speaker 6: said that afterwards. I'm sure you guys have had the

685
00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:53,160
Speaker 6: same experience in your sports fandom where you don't walk

686
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Speaker 6: out of the stadium.

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Speaker 2: You flowed out of the stadium.

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Speaker 6: You end up at your car after that game and

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Speaker 6: you're like, how did I get here? Like I don't

690
00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:03,360
Speaker 6: even remember walking because you're hugging and you're high fiving

691
00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:06,719
Speaker 6: and you're chanting and people are smoking cigars and it

692
00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:10,759
Speaker 6: was just it was awesome. Now, the problem is, I

693
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Speaker 6: hope the players don't feel like the fans feel, because

694
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Speaker 6: I'm like the biggest letdown spot guy in the world,

695
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Speaker 6: because I don't even like beating the Packers was so incredible.

696
00:35:21,080 --> 00:35:23,000
Speaker 6: I want to beat the Rams really bad, but I'm

697
00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:25,160
Speaker 6: in this like gravy mindset where it's like, hey, this

698
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Speaker 6: has been an incredible season. I'm hoping that the actual

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Speaker 6: players feel a little different, because I would get if

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Speaker 6: I were out on the field on Sunday, I'd get

701
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Speaker 6: boat raced by like two hundred points because I'd be like, well,

702
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Speaker 6: we beat the Packers, this is cool.

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Speaker 3: Well, I think there was a little bit of that

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Speaker 3: with the Steelers having beat the Ravens, a little bit

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Speaker 3: of a you know, a goal post game in college. Yes,

706
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Speaker 3: you always bet against that team the week after, you know,

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Speaker 3: and it kind of felt like a little of an

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Speaker 3: emotional letdown. I don't even want to get into that

709
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Speaker 3: game and how awful that was. But what is your

710
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Speaker 3: take on Ben Johnson saying f the Packers, I hate

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Speaker 3: that team?

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Speaker 2: Is this a step too far?

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Speaker 6: Listen? This was great. Everyone should love this, Everyone should

714
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Speaker 6: embrace this. Sports are about rivalry. Sports are about hate,

715
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Speaker 6: and anyone who's complaining about it I understand. I actually

716
00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:25,560
Speaker 6: weirdly understand Packers fans because they're like so spoiled and

717
00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:30,120
Speaker 6: they've had such an incredible run of good quarterbacking that

718
00:36:30,520 --> 00:36:34,080
Speaker 6: they couldn't believe that the guy they've been bullying all

719
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Speaker 6: this time was gonna finally get like strong enough to

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Speaker 6: punch back. So they're in shock. They have an understand

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Speaker 6: them being babies and losers. Everyone else outside is such

722
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Speaker 6: a loser for caring about a grown man saying like,

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Speaker 6: there's nothing worse in the world than being like, well,

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Speaker 6: the kid's watching pairing your own stupid kids, all right,

725
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Speaker 6: don't worry about Ben Johnson. Isn't parents in your kids?

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Speaker 6: I want the ribble to be like this, I say though,

727
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Speaker 6: for you guys, have you thought about the fact that

728
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Speaker 6: if it ever shifts with the Browns, like truly shifts,

729
00:37:07,239 --> 00:37:09,000
Speaker 6: because I know it kind of you know, the COVID

730
00:37:09,040 --> 00:37:11,480
Speaker 6: and all that stuff, But that's what we're seeing right now.

731
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Speaker 6: It's that type of anger and Ben Johnson has channeled it.

732
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Speaker 6: When you get just beat down for so many years

733
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Speaker 6: by your rival and then you can flip it on them,

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Speaker 6: it's like the best feeling ever. Have you guys thought about, like,

735
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Speaker 6: will you complain when the new coach of the Browns

736
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Speaker 6: is saying this type of stuff and maybe.

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Speaker 2: Beating you guys?

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Speaker 3: The difference is regular season wins when if the Steelers

739
00:37:34,560 --> 00:37:39,200
Speaker 3: are rebuilding, that is, while it won't be easy to swallow,

740
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Speaker 3: a lot different than a playoff matchup with the implications

741
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Speaker 3: on the line that were there, you know, the team

742
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Speaker 3: that it owned you for so long, and this was

743
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Speaker 3: the hurdle you had to get over the rivalry that

744
00:37:52,520 --> 00:37:54,400
Speaker 3: had been there. How many victories did you guys have

745
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Speaker 3: over them in the last like twenty years.

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Speaker 2: It's like six or something.

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Speaker 6: Been bad, Yeah, it's been bad. Yeah, Aaron Rodgers is

748
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Speaker 6: like twenty one and four against us or something.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: So it's all about the stakes, you know, like getting

751
00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:10,040
Speaker 3: beating the regular season when we're on a rebuild. I

752
00:38:10,080 --> 00:38:12,200
Speaker 3: think that that would be expected. It would have been

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Speaker 3: fun if they would have done a coaching carousel. And

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Speaker 3: I know you guys talked about it a little bit.

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Speaker 3: Now that Harbaugh's with the Giants, that's not going to happen.

756
00:38:17,760 --> 00:38:21,040
Speaker 3: But if the Steelers, the Steelers hired Harbaugh, the Ravens

757
00:38:21,120 --> 00:38:27,600
Speaker 3: hired Tomlin, and the Browns just really hired Stefanski, you know, yeah,

758
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Speaker 3: because that's what the Browns would do.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, no, I think it was Harball Brown's Tomlin,

760
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Speaker 6: Ravens Stefanski Steelers. That actually makes sense, and I don't

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Speaker 6: the biggest thing with the AFC North, I still got

762
00:38:39,520 --> 00:38:42,080
Speaker 6: to get an answer for it. Like Zach Taylor definitely

763
00:38:42,120 --> 00:38:45,080
Speaker 6: has survivor's guilt, right, he is the guy who survived

764
00:38:45,080 --> 00:38:47,880
Speaker 6: the airplane crash and he's looking around and he's saying,

765
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Speaker 6: why me, what did I do?

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Speaker 2: That's different.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know how long he's gonna be there.

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Speaker 3: I don't know this. This might be it for him

769
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Speaker 3: if they don't get something done with Joe Burrow, because

770
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Speaker 3: Joe Burrow is starting to do that talk like what's

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Speaker 3: it all for?

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Speaker 2: What's the point all of this?

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Speaker 3: You know, why don't I just go and enjoy my

774
00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:06,799
Speaker 3: life and spend my money And I don't need to

775
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Speaker 3: do this anymore. Once your quarterback starts talking like that,

776
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Speaker 3: you might want to bring in a new coach.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, when your quarterback starts talking like Confucius.

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Speaker 2: Big cat. Good luck to the Bears this weekend. Have

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Speaker 2: a blast, all right, thanks, Guysis. The music's ang right.

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Speaker 5: The music is more than all right when you get

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Speaker 5: to pick the songs. The DVE Workforce takes their lunch

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Speaker 5: break in the All Request the Electric Lunch every weekday

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Speaker 5: at noon.

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Speaker 2: Hey, Michelle, Love the show with Michelle on one O

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Speaker 2: two point five DV.

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Speaker 3: West Ruler Here stay up to date with everything happening

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Speaker 3: in Steelers Nation.

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Speaker 2: Join me and Matt Williamson for the drive weekday. Ye,

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Speaker 2: It's the DV Morty Show.

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Speaker 3: Randy Bauman, Abby Chrisler, Mike Pursuit, Everybody, Joe Bartneck hanging

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Speaker 3: out with us early Sean call your ol be in

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Speaker 3: a little bit. Later on, we'll have Mike de Fabo

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Speaker 3: on the show. Also, who wrote that piece in Athletic

794
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Speaker 3: that took the country by storm yesterday which described the

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Speaker 3: goings on in the locker room when Mike Tomlin informed

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Speaker 3: the team that he'd be leaving, and it was quite

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Speaker 3: a get by Mike to Fabo. There also legendary rock

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Speaker 3: and roll producer musician Don Was will join us at

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Speaker 3: eight o'clock. He's at the Thunderbird tonight with the Pop

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Speaker 3: Pan Detroit Ensemble. If I told you everyone he worked with,

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Speaker 3: we wouldn't have time to get to any of the

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Speaker 3: sports right now. The guy's an absolute legend, and of

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Speaker 3: course coming off being the musical director for Bob we

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Speaker 3: Are and Wolf Brothers and with Bob, we are passing

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Speaker 3: this week. It is, you know, coincidental timing, but it's

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Speaker 3: gonna be a nice, big remembrance. I think of all

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Speaker 3: things Bob tonight at the Thunderbird there Joe Bartnick.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, it's gonna be amazing. I can't wait to hear

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Speaker 7: what Don Was has to say.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: And also we'll get to our winners and boozers later.

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Speaker 3: But Mike, last night the Pittsburgh Penguins delivered Penn's delivered.

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Speaker 5: In the list of vential replacements for Mike Tomlin grows

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Speaker 5: by a couple of names. Sports This Hour brought to

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Speaker 5: you by Bridgeville Appliance. That list up to eight now

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Speaker 5: in the wake of the reported interest by the Steelers

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Speaker 5: on the part of Clay or the reported interest by

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Speaker 5: the Steelers regarding Clay Kubiak, San Francisco forty nine Ers

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Speaker 5: offensive coordinator and Jeff Affley Packers defensive coordinator. Eight names

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Speaker 5: on that list now, Six of them are defensive coordinators.

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Speaker 5: They have a type and then one passing game coordinator

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Speaker 5: and one offensive coordinator, and the interview.

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Speaker 2: Process is set to begin.

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Speaker 5: Reportedly, Rams pass game coordinator Nate shiel Haas will interview

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Speaker 5: today as will Rams defensive coordinator Chris Schula, Packers defensive

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Speaker 5: coordinator Jeff Affley, and then Chargers defensive coordinator Jesse Minter

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Speaker 5: will interview on Sunday. I think Afley is a name

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Speaker 5: to keep an eye on in this I mean, all

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Speaker 5: these guys are kind of similar.

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Speaker 2: You know, they go for the young act coming.

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Speaker 5: But Halfley's got extensive NFL experience as an assistant. He

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Speaker 5: was a head coach in college at Boston College, and

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Speaker 5: his college career as an assistant includes five years at

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Speaker 5: pitt under Dave Wantstet. Oh wow, he met his wife,

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Speaker 5: Gina right here in the city of Pittsburgh.

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Speaker 2: No kidding. Gena is a good Pittsburgh name. I thought

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Speaker 2: he was a lot younger than that.

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Speaker 5: No, he's He's actually a little older than their quote

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Speaker 5: unquote type. He's forty six, you know the last Yeah,

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Speaker 5: the last three guys have been thirty somethings. But you know,

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Speaker 5: forty six is the new thirty six. Sure it is,

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Speaker 5: And you know you got to get a little veteran

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Speaker 5: leadership every once in a while.

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Speaker 3: His hair is a little weird. That's my only about

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Speaker 3: that guy. It doesn't happen much it's a weird whatever

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Speaker 3: he's doing.

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Speaker 5: He's trying to figure out if I should just roll

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Speaker 5: with what I still have or go to Turkey.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, figured out.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, But here we go a lot of a lot

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Speaker 5: of names on a list, and it may grow, it

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Speaker 5: may not. But you know a lot of speculations to

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Speaker 5: whether this is an attractive job. This is a ten

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Speaker 5: win team in an organization that makes a history of

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Speaker 5: not firing its coach.

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Speaker 2: This is an attractive job.

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Speaker 3: Well, yes, but it's a ten win team that lost

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Speaker 3: their quarterback. It did, and the coach that helped get

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Speaker 3: them there, and who was known for taking chickens.

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Speaker 5: But it's leap and making chickens ount losing its quarterback

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Speaker 5: and winning ten games. True, like no, in all serious,

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Speaker 5: some quarterbacks a huge problem. And to me that is

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Speaker 5: the biggest domino falling in the wake of Mike Tomin leaving.

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Speaker 5: Is now you lose Aaron Rodgers. Yes, who to me

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Speaker 5: was their team MVP. I know they voted Kenny gainwell,

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Speaker 5: but uh.

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Speaker 2: I agree with you, that's a big loss.

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Speaker 5: But I think both lines, despite the most recent evidence

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Speaker 5: of them getting their cans kicked in on both sides

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Speaker 5: of the ball by Houston. I think the defensive line

871
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Speaker 5: is up and coming. I think the offensive line is

872
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Speaker 5: up and coming, and that's where needs to be good.

873
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Speaker 3: Even if you have the quarterback, you think the defensive

874
00:44:03,400 --> 00:44:06,480
Speaker 3: line is up becoming because of Harmon Harmon, I think

875
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Speaker 3: Benton took strides. I think why Black is going to

876
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Speaker 3: be a good player Beton in year three or four

877
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Speaker 3: or where is he three?

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Speaker 2: I believe that this was three Yeah, yeah, okay. I

879
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Speaker 2: think he's young, yeah, yeah, point, he's not thirty six. No,

880
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Speaker 2: And I don't know what this does for Cam Hayward.

881
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Speaker 5: I wondered that if he is going to judge it

882
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Speaker 5: solely on performance alone, slam Donkey comes back. But he

883
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Speaker 5: may he played tremendously well in the second half of

884
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Speaker 5: the season, But those.

885
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Speaker 3: Decisions aren't always made in a vacuum.

886
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Speaker 5: No, And you know he's been only with Mike Tomlin

887
00:44:44,239 --> 00:44:47,120
Speaker 5: and maybe he's with Maybe he's just well TJ.

888
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Speaker 2: He is a little younger, and uh.

889
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Speaker 5: I think what was the Cam's thing? They they gained

890
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Speaker 5: some incentives but didn't extend him right back in the controversy, he.

891
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Speaker 2: Wasn't looking for an extent. He was just looking for

892
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Speaker 2: more money. On what he had. I thought, yeah, but

893
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Speaker 2: they did give.

894
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Speaker 3: All they gave him was playoff incentives and I think

895
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Speaker 3: another total snap incentive.

896
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Speaker 2: Which I'm sure he hit. Yes, because he played. He

897
00:45:14,680 --> 00:45:17,720
Speaker 2: played more than any other interior linement in the league.

898
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Speaker 3: I think, well he at least he was leading the

899
00:45:20,400 --> 00:45:23,320
Speaker 3: league at one point, which is like late in the season,

900
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Speaker 3: which is crazy for his age.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and there are some components there, but they're gonna

902
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Speaker 5: have to figure quarterback out and this may not be

903
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Speaker 5: the year they find that franchise guy.

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Speaker 2: After all, it could be a very long year. Could

905
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Speaker 2: be a long year.

906
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Speaker 7: Have to see how wells might get some Kyle Tucker money.

907
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Speaker 7: Could the North not having a joggernaut make this attractive?

908
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Speaker 7: Say that again, could the North not having a jaggernaut

909
00:45:47,920 --> 00:45:50,960
Speaker 7: team like you look like a Burrows. You know, he's

910
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Speaker 7: always kind of injured. I love the guy, he's always

911
00:45:53,040 --> 00:45:55,279
Speaker 7: kind of injured. They don't have a defense. Who knows

912
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Speaker 7: was that Harbaugh? And the Browns are the Browns. It's

913
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Speaker 7: kind of like a division championship sitting here. If you

914
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Speaker 7: can get a decent quarterback.

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Speaker 3: Well, I think that's the same thing you can say

916
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Speaker 3: about Cleveland. There's a Division championship. If you could get

917
00:46:08,400 --> 00:46:09,560
Speaker 3: a quarterback.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, buy that.

919
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Speaker 5: But although their line's getting slappy, they used to have

920
00:46:15,880 --> 00:46:18,040
Speaker 5: a great offensive line for a long time and those

921
00:46:18,040 --> 00:46:22,040
Speaker 5: guys are getting old. They got to rebuild that. Their

922
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Speaker 5: rookie running back got hurt. He looked like he was

923
00:46:24,000 --> 00:46:26,399
Speaker 5: going to be pretty good player before he got hurt.

924
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Speaker 5: Their wide receiver position is deficient.

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Speaker 3: They got one of the best coordinators in the league

926
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Speaker 3: on defense and one of the best defenses.

927
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Speaker 2: Well, they had one of the best coordinators.

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Speaker 3: He's Gonzo with Stefanski, who no, who knows. Well, that's

929
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Speaker 3: interesting news about the Steelers coaches too. They've all been

930
00:46:41,800 --> 00:46:46,399
Speaker 3: told like, ay, best of luck, and you know, go

931
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Speaker 3: find greener pastors if.

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Speaker 5: You can't guard running down Today said that none of

933
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Speaker 5: them would be the head coach and they.

934
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Speaker 2: May be retained by the new guy.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, if they're smart, they're looking for another gig in

936
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Speaker 5: the interim, because why would you.

937
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Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe, which stinks because you know, Danny Smith, I know,

938
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Speaker 3: would be a team favorite. Jalen Warren Wade in online

939
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Speaker 3: responding to Caboli saying that he wanted to keep Eddie

940
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Speaker 3: Faulknerry Faulkner.

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Speaker 5: Carl Dunbar's I think a very good d line coach.

942
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Speaker 5: But he's been added a long time. You gotta wonder

943
00:47:19,320 --> 00:47:20,839
Speaker 5: if he wants to start over.

944
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Speaker 3: Seemed like he was doing it for Tomlin too. He

945
00:47:23,880 --> 00:47:26,880
Speaker 3: was very much a Tomlin. Yeah, it's never drop secured.

946
00:47:26,960 --> 00:47:28,960
Speaker 3: They say, well, you're allowed to reapply for your job,

947
00:47:29,440 --> 00:47:30,360
Speaker 3: right exactly.

948
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Speaker 5: Pence hosted the Flyers last night and they got things

949
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Speaker 5: started early in spectacular fashion.

950
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Speaker 2: On the power play on.

951
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Speaker 9: Nantha with it above the NewYork circle, takes it to

952
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Speaker 9: Kulak high slot, Maantha again above the circle, Rister wider

953
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Speaker 9: the net, rebound all the way to the far half

954
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Speaker 9: wall for China Kov he'll sweep at the Kulak Mantha

955
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Speaker 9: cross eyes pass, Kindle the corsept they.

956
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Speaker 6: Start that door, Juti Brasso hit on nothing.

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Speaker 1: Pens.

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Speaker 5: You know that wasn't a bang bang bang tic tac

959
00:48:01,400 --> 00:48:03,920
Speaker 5: toe was a little bit like a delayed reaction. But

960
00:48:04,239 --> 00:48:08,000
Speaker 5: the vision of all the players involved was tremendous, particularly Kindle,

961
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Speaker 5: who saw Brazo on the back door and just hit

962
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Speaker 5: his stick. Hit his stick with the pass and Penn's

963
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Speaker 5: get two power play goals in the first period and

964
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Speaker 5: go on to beat the Flyers six to three. It

965
00:48:20,719 --> 00:48:23,880
Speaker 5: was four to one after two and they were cruising.

966
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Speaker 5: Let up a couple cheapness at the end of the game,

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Speaker 5: but another really strong performance for the Penguins. Even in

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Speaker 5: that three game losing streak, they were not allowing goals

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Speaker 5: against all Right, let's do this quick break.

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Speaker 3: Joe Bartnick's here he was at the game last night.

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Speaker 3: His take on Penguin six, Flyers three. More on the

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Speaker 3: Steelers coaching situation. Mike Defabo, who wrote that piece for

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Speaker 3: The Athletic, joins us at seven forty five and Abby

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Speaker 3: will have your news also when we return.

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Speaker 2: Lots of rock.

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Speaker 7: News, with the Aussi biopic looking like it's got its

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Speaker 7: lead actor and Metallica getting even closer to the sphere, It's.

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Speaker 8: Time for the Steelers Daily Record on DV, brought to

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Speaker 2: Here's Tom Opperman.

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Speaker 10: Steelers head coach Mike Tomlin sent tremors through the football

984
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Speaker 10: world Tuesday afternoon, and it was announced he would be

985
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Speaker 10: stepping down as head coach of the Pittsburgh Steelers. After

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Speaker 10: nineteen seasons with the franchise, Mike Tomlin walks away with

987
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Speaker 10: a legacy that includes the super Bowl winning Super Bowl

988
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Speaker 10: forty three, two AFC Championships, eight division titles, and as

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Speaker 10: the coach with the most consecutive non losing seasons in

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Speaker 10: NFL history. The Steelers will now be on the lookout

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Speaker 10: for a head coach for the first time since two

992
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Speaker 10: thousand and seven, when they hired Mike Tomlin to replace

993
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Speaker 10: Bill Kauer, and will be competing with eight other teams

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Speaker 10: in this head coaching market, including their two division rivals,

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Speaker 10: the Baltimore Ravens and the Cleveland Browns. Steelers owner and

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Speaker 10: team president Artrooney spoke to the media Wednesday afternoon to

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Speaker 10: address the news of Tomlin stepping down and where the

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Speaker 10: team will go from here. The process to replace Tomlin

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Speaker 10: will begin immediately, according to Art Rooney, and while he

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Speaker 10: didn't want to lay down any parameters when it came

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Speaker 10: to the next head coach for the Pittsburgh Steelers, he

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Speaker 10: did note that he expects the process to take a

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Speaker 10: couple of weeks and that he doesn't expect anybody who

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Speaker 10: is currently on the staff to be promoted to the

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Speaker 10: head coaching position. As far as what this means for

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Speaker 10: Aaron Rodgers in his future with the Steelers, Art Rooney

1007
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Speaker 10: noted that Rogers came to Pittsburgh to play for Mike

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Speaker 10: Tomlin and that he thinks this decision by Tomlin will

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Speaker 10: most likely affect Rogers's decision. It certainly will be a

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Speaker 10: very busy and intriguing offseason as the search for the

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Speaker 10: franchise's fourth coach since nineteen sixty nine is officially on.

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Speaker 2: I'm Tom Opferman with the Steelers Report. Bring in the

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Speaker 2: new year,