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Speaker 1: It's Night's Eyes with Dan Ray one Easy Boston's news radio.

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Speaker 2: Brad Jay for Dan Ray on this Friday night, as

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Speaker 2: we broadcast to you from our perch looking across the

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Speaker 2: city of Boston on this chilly, clear night, and the

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Speaker 2: WBZ signal comes cracking into your house or into your car,

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Speaker 2: or if you're listening on a online it comes to

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Speaker 2: you that way. It's been coming to you for a

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Speaker 2: long time, and we hope it keeps on doing just that.

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Speaker 2: No guest tonight, as far as I know, which is fine,

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Speaker 2: it's just you and me. I have a question for you.

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Speaker 2: Would you clone your dog? Would you clone your dog?

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Speaker 2: That's right, Maffi or fight? Do not fight? Don't? What

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Speaker 2: about real names, Bailey, Pogo, Oscar, Molly? Would you try

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Speaker 2: to replicate that dog? Well, there is a growing list

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Speaker 2: of celebrities who are doing that. One of them is

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Speaker 2: the famous quarterback Barbara Streissan Paris Hilton. Actually the list

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Speaker 2: isn't that long. It is getting longer, It's really not

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Speaker 2: that long. For one thing, it costs about fifty grand

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Speaker 2: to clone a dog, which for some people, of course,

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Speaker 2: is nothing. And I suppose that it's their money and

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Speaker 2: they get to do whatever they want with the money

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Speaker 2: within reason. For some reason, cats are cheaper, like twenty

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Speaker 2: five grand, and I don't understand why, because it's I

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Speaker 2: don't know, maybe the process is different for a cat.

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Speaker 2: I will go through the process and in the meantime,

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Speaker 2: don't worry about interrupting me. There's no guests. And if

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Speaker 2: you just call me up, ball has it my description

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Speaker 2: of what goes on, and you can tell me as

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Speaker 2: you think about it. Would you clone your dog? What

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Speaker 2: does that feel kind of pet cemetery to you or

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Speaker 2: maybe just disrespectful to your current dog to think, well,

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Speaker 2: I could replaced Pogo six one, seven, two, five, four,

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Speaker 2: ten thirty. Would you clone your dog? And the fun

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Speaker 2: part or the other fun part, the additional fun is

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Speaker 2: that I'd love to hear about your pet, your dog.

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Speaker 2: This is you don't get that option very much. You

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Speaker 2: don't get to talk about it very much. I don't

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Speaker 2: get to talk about it on the radio very much.

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Speaker 2: And this is a perfect opportunity for me to hear

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Speaker 2: about your dog. And it's also or cat or cat

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Speaker 2: or even actually if you have a more exotic pet,

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Speaker 2: I guess that's cool too, snake, parrot, bat I don't

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Speaker 2: know if people have bats for pets. Some people are spiders.

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Speaker 2: Spiders are becoming a thing though. Six one seven two

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Speaker 2: five four ten thirty. Great chance for a chill conversation

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Speaker 2: about a subject you love. And that's your pet, your

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Speaker 2: dog primarily, but whatever you have. I'm not going to

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Speaker 2: sell your alternative pet short. Cats totally count. People don't

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Speaker 2: give them enough credit. Cats, but cats do bring joy there.

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Speaker 2: It's an entirely different animal as it were. Now, let

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Speaker 2: me tell you about this procedure. This might help you decide.

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Speaker 2: And also when I ask you, would you clone your pet,

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Speaker 2: let's just assume it's free. I would say, even if

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Speaker 2: it's free, six one seven two five four ten thirty.

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Speaker 2: The past couple of days I have been remissing giving

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Speaker 2: out the number. Can't expect you to remember it. I

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Speaker 2: know that it is intimidating to call a radio station,

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Speaker 2: to call a radio show, because even though I've been

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Speaker 2: know that it's great to have an easy going topic

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Speaker 2: Right Well, nope, not this time. You just can't do it.

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Speaker 2: So right away, before I even get into the procedure,

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Speaker 2: I start to Lauri and framing it. Oh, Laurie, how

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Speaker 3: I'm okay. Actually, I just lost my dog a few

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Speaker 3: weeks ago, so I mean a couple of weeks ago.

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Speaker 3: So I've been really sad and I wish I could

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Speaker 2: If you had been able to clone your dog, would you.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, if I would, because I feel like they'll never

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Speaker 2: She was amazing and and tell me about some of

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Speaker 3: Well, she was a bug and she was just the

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Speaker 3: most loving, the sweetest dog you'll ever meet. And she

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Speaker 4: You know, and she was just a doll.

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Speaker 3: Her name was Dolly, and she was the sweetest, sweetest

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Speaker 2: And what is it about in general that that everyone

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Speaker 2: I don't want, I don't want to offend people by

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Speaker 3: It is it is. I mean, I'll tell you what.

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Speaker 4: Are you still Are you still.

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Speaker 2: In a stage where you're saying to yourself, I'll never

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Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, I am. And I still cry a lot

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Speaker 2: Well, you know a couple of things. It'll help you

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Speaker 2: move on with your life. Have to get another dog,

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Speaker 2: and I know it it's gonna take some time. But

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Speaker 2: the other thing, there are dogs that need you.

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Speaker 2: I don't, I don't mean to pressure you, but remember

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Speaker 2: go on through. So you would you would even if

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Speaker 2: a misconception about cloning. It's not the same dog, it's

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Speaker 2: another dog. It's it help, Yeah, want to have Personality

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Speaker 2: tendencies that you know. It's it's cool little habits that

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Speaker 2: it had that Dolly had may not have. And I

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Speaker 2: almost think it's I don't know, kind of not insulting,

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Speaker 2: but I'd feel bad thinking I could replace my dog

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Speaker 2: To think you could replace Dolly kind of says you

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Speaker 3: No, she was so special. But I feel like I

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Speaker 3: be the you know, I feel like she would just

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Speaker 3: I separated or something, you know, I don't know, but.

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Speaker 2: You could you could do this. You could if you

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Speaker 2: wanted a pug that was you know, just look, if

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Speaker 2: you get into the pug with the same colors, it

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Speaker 2: will look just a lot like Dolly. And if it's

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Speaker 2: and you, if you bring it up, it's going to

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Speaker 2: but it will be awful lot like Dolly. And in

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Speaker 2: the meantime, you would have rescued a dog that needs

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Speaker 2: What are the couple of weird things that weird habits

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Speaker 2: I'll talk my dog's weird habits fun habits later, but

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Speaker 2: that's one of the charming things about your dog. What's uh,

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Speaker 3: This is the weirdest thing of her. When she got fixed,

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Speaker 3: you know, they put a cone on her, okay, and

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Speaker 3: you know most dogs hate cones, well not Dolly. She

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Speaker 3: she got very attached to this cone. She was, you know,

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Speaker 3: but we video taped it. We had to get her

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Speaker 3: through like therapy to you know, popes are into five

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Speaker 3: giving up the cone. You know, she she thought it

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Speaker 3: it and she wanted that cone on and it was

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Speaker 3: just hilarious. She was just cute, like she was so funny.

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Speaker 2: It's interesting. Maybe maybe it was like having a little

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it was something that was just hers and she

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Speaker 3: she loved it. I don't know why it was so bizarre, Lauri.

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Speaker 2: I'm really glad that you you shared and I hope,

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Speaker 2: I hope it helps the healing process for you. Boy

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Speaker 2: oh boy. Uh, it is horrible to lose your dog,

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Speaker 2: and we've lost four, but you know they need us,

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Speaker 2: and so we we just kind of toughened up and

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Speaker 2: did it again. And maybe in the two three months,

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Speaker 2: you you know, go to the rest, go to a

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Speaker 2: rescue place and just hang out and you know what,

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Speaker 2: you know what, you'll probably have a new a new friend.

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Speaker 3: Probably right because before before her, after I lost my

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Speaker 3: other dog, Keno, I said I would never get another dog,

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Speaker 3: and I said that twice, you know, and I ended

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Speaker 2: All right, Well, thank you so much, Laurie.

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Speaker 2: Now, next after this, we'll talk to Rita in Boston.

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Speaker 2: Same thing. I'm going to tell you about the cloning process.

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Speaker 2: I'd like to know if you would clone your dog

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Speaker 2: we orkat or rat. We're not rat, Okay, rat, I

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Speaker 2: didn't mean to say rat though, parrots, bat, gerbil whatever.

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Speaker 2: As the first kind of downside we've learned is it's

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Speaker 2: not going to be your dog. It's just another dog,

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Speaker 2: probably a fun dog. But you could have rescued a

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Speaker 2: dog who may be euthanized because you didn't. I know.

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Speaker 2: It's a heavy trip to Leonya, but it's also true. Well,

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Speaker 2: also get to John and so it's John and Rita

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Speaker 2: coming up after this on WBZ.

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Speaker 1: It's Night Side with Dan Ray on WBZ Boston's news radio.

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Speaker 2: Looks like we're we're still here. That's great. We're talking

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Speaker 2: about the possibility that you would want to clone your dog,

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Speaker 2: and so far we have actually it is a poll,

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Speaker 2: we have one for yes. Now let's go to Rita

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Speaker 2: or pet and find out what that pet's like and

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Speaker 2: maybe some personality trades, see if they match up with

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Speaker 2: your pets, and if she would like to clone if possible.

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Speaker 4: Hi, Rita, Hi, how are you.

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Speaker 2: I'm fantastic, Thank you.

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Speaker 6: So my answer is no, I would not do it.

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Speaker 6: The reason is one, as you said, it would be

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Speaker 6: another pet. I have cats, so it would be a

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Speaker 6: different cat. And second, it would also, I think, make

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Speaker 6: me sad because for the other one, I would expect

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Speaker 6: a certain response, or do certain things, or have certain

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Speaker 6: relationships with like the other pets or other family members

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Speaker 6: this one, and that would make me sad because those

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Speaker 6: were the things that made it special.

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Speaker 2: Uh. How did you get to name Stanley? I'm always

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Speaker 6: She goes Sella and Stanley from street Car Name's Desire.

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Speaker 6: He was just a sweet cat, a pretty cat. And

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Speaker 2: That's right. And if you didn't had a cat before

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Speaker 6: Yeah, so it's not I think we get caught up

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Speaker 6: Yeah, it's just their body. It's just the physical that's

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Speaker 2: By the way, at some point we're gonna have to

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Speaker 6: Yeah, And then that's not the relationship, is it. That's

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Speaker 6: It wouldn't be the same person either, because you know,

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Speaker 6: you're in a different place than when you, like with

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Speaker 6: Like if I get my grandmother, but she's a baby,

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Speaker 6: what am I going to do? It's just it doesn't

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Speaker 2: It would also be different because real Grammy was born

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Speaker 2: Then new Grammy would have her head buried in the

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Speaker 6: Right, so you would just have a kid, then why

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Speaker 2: Okay, great Carl, thank you Reta, thank you, Rita. I

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Speaker 2: think of this. It's like, you know what boba tea is.

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Speaker 1: Boston's news radio where you ast.

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Speaker 2: The dog right, Yes, my Dama's wan a heartbreak. What

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Speaker 2: would you say? His name was again Oliver?

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Speaker 1: Well, Oliver's in luck because we're having a specialist week.

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Speaker 2: Twenty percent of when did Oliver die? Sometimes just morning.

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Speaker 2: Oh that's perfect. We can still have a postmotive syncurdy.

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Speaker 1: But you got to act fast because there's only a

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Speaker 2: I have a problem with that whole idea. It supposed

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Speaker 1: Clone pets are every bit as safe as real pets,

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Speaker 2: If it is as safe, then why is it against

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Speaker 1: Because the human brain is much too complicated as sincourt.

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Speaker 1: Now you remember that experiment they did, right, Yes, so

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Speaker 1: even try. But with pets, he said, totally proven technologies.

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Speaker 2: Your repet Oliver could be exactly the same dog. Good one,

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Speaker 2: Rob Brooks. Rob Brooks dug that up on the fly.

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Speaker 2: That's cool. I'm asking you if you would clone your pet,

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Speaker 2: And so far we have one yes and one no,

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Speaker 2: Thanks for hanging in there, John, and Wooburn. How do

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Speaker 8: Bradley?

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Speaker 4: Thanks for taking my call.

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Speaker 2: Of course, John, of course.

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Speaker 4: Anyhow, the last time I talked to you, I was

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Speaker 4: I can't.

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Speaker 2: I can't lie because whenever you lie, you get busted.

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Speaker 2: So I wanted, I want, yeah, I want desperately to

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Speaker 4: Your dog, all right, my dog my mother. My mother

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Speaker 4: used to work at Sylvania Moving. You know, a lady

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Speaker 4: And anyhow, we got a dog and we named it.

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Speaker 4: She named the dog Fritz. And Fritz was a girl

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Speaker 2: Wow, and so would you clone Fritz? No, had the opportunity.

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Speaker 4: Only I used to call Fritz the hostess with the mostes.

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Speaker 2: Right, there's only one Fritz, and a clone of Fritz

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Speaker 4: That's true.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so good for you. Do you have a new

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Speaker 4: No, No, Because I'm a mason, I'm always working. I

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Speaker 2: That's right. What do you do that takes What do

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Speaker 4: Well? I built song walls and chimneys and concrete work

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Speaker 4: Three houses down from the bridge. Anyhow, I wanted to

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Speaker 2: you for checking in. And uh, I'm sorry to hear

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Speaker 2: you lost your dog, but at least you got a job.

436
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Speaker 2: Thank you very much, John and now it's Alex and

437
00:24:43,320 --> 00:24:44,800
Speaker 2: milliss I think I know you. Alex.

438
00:24:45,640 --> 00:24:48,080
Speaker 7: Hey Brady, thanks for taking my call a long time.

439
00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:51,120
Speaker 2: No, no here, yeah, not that long as you call

440
00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:52,840
Speaker 2: last time. I always remember you.

441
00:24:53,840 --> 00:24:58,280
Speaker 7: Oh yeah, Okay. Well I was going to say we

442
00:24:58,480 --> 00:25:02,479
Speaker 7: have a golden doodle and uh we we got him

443
00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:06,160
Speaker 7: from a breeder, and h this dog is amazing. He's

444
00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:09,359
Speaker 7: I get so many compliments, not because he's a golden

445
00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:10,480
Speaker 7: doodle or because he's.

446
00:25:10,440 --> 00:25:12,960
Speaker 2: My dog, but a name.

447
00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:14,840
Speaker 4: His name is Apollo.

448
00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:18,879
Speaker 7: We happen to be Greek, and because I love uh,

449
00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:20,440
Speaker 7: you know, Greek mythology.

450
00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:23,920
Speaker 2: I know you are very much into your heritage.

451
00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:27,080
Speaker 7: Yeah. I don't know if it's a bad thing or

452
00:25:27,119 --> 00:25:33,720
Speaker 7: a good thing, but yeah, so this dog Apollo. Actually,

453
00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:37,440
Speaker 7: my wife wasn't a dog person. She says, I don't

454
00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:39,280
Speaker 7: want to get a dog, but we got him from

455
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Speaker 7: for our son. And once we got this uh this,

456
00:25:42,560 --> 00:25:46,280
Speaker 7: uh you know, our goldendoodle, my wife fell in love

457
00:25:46,320 --> 00:25:49,199
Speaker 7: with him. So he's uh, he happens to be uh,

458
00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:52,879
Speaker 7: you know, no kiddy bilingual, so he understands commands and

459
00:25:53,080 --> 00:25:57,359
Speaker 7: you know, both languages, and he's uh, I take him

460
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Speaker 7: everywhere with me, you know, because these dogs. They need

461
00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:05,159
Speaker 7: a lot of exercise and they're very athletic. Yeah, we

462
00:26:05,320 --> 00:26:07,280
Speaker 7: go every place. We go to people, you know, the

463
00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:12,040
Speaker 7: like the bank or even like you know, uh uh

464
00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:14,560
Speaker 7: sometimes dunkin Donuts. They don't mind you going in there.

465
00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:16,400
Speaker 7: They all give them a treat.

466
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Speaker 4: Wow.

467
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Speaker 2: So would you clone, you know, would you clone if

468
00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:21,000
Speaker 2: you if.

469
00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:24,960
Speaker 7: It were I don't want to play guard and you know, like, uh,

470
00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:28,240
Speaker 7: it's it's like it would bring uh, it would give

471
00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:31,920
Speaker 7: me a sort of like a bad I guess bad

472
00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:35,159
Speaker 7: uh uh memory, you know, right right.

473
00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:38,560
Speaker 2: And plus there is the general creepiness facts there factor Alex,

474
00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:41,240
Speaker 2: thank you so much. The time's going so quickly and

475
00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:44,760
Speaker 2: there and they're folks to talk to. Next is David

476
00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:45,879
Speaker 2: and San Francisco.

477
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Speaker 9: Hi, David, Hey Bradley, did you hear from you?

478
00:26:50,320 --> 00:26:50,480
Speaker 2: Man?

479
00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:53,119
Speaker 9: I've been listening to the last couple of nights and

480
00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:58,920
Speaker 9: it's such such a You're such a tree to listen to. Anyhow, Yeah,

481
00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:01,639
Speaker 9: I'll play a cat and all my life basically I

482
00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:04,760
Speaker 9: had a few dogs, but I mostly had cats, and

483
00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:07,600
Speaker 9: I would have every one of them cloned because they

484
00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:10,880
Speaker 9: were just so dear. But one pet I had when

485
00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:13,520
Speaker 9: I first came to San Francisco in nineteen seventy eight.

486
00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:17,680
Speaker 9: I got tarantula and I had it for about six

487
00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:20,640
Speaker 9: months and then a friend of my roommates came into

488
00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:21,879
Speaker 9: my room and he says, oh, can I put it

489
00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:24,359
Speaker 9: on my arm? I said, sure, and Church's arm and

490
00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:26,840
Speaker 9: the thing thall on the floor about two feet down

491
00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:29,560
Speaker 9: and it took it about two weeks to die because

492
00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:32,440
Speaker 9: of a real send bit of plumbing between the floorax

493
00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:37,359
Speaker 9: and the abdomen. And her name was Bobby Sue, and

494
00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:39,960
Speaker 9: I used to feed her crickets. She come over to

495
00:27:40,040 --> 00:27:43,720
Speaker 9: my hand in her cage and to take the cricket

496
00:27:43,760 --> 00:27:45,520
Speaker 9: out of my hand and have dinner.

497
00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:51,080
Speaker 2: And I recently become an insect. And I guess spiders

498
00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:55,320
Speaker 2: are not insects. They're are rechnids, right, But I don't

499
00:27:55,320 --> 00:27:58,119
Speaker 2: know the insects. That's beside the point. I'm into them

500
00:27:58,160 --> 00:28:00,399
Speaker 2: now that I've seen a lot of close up for timeography,

501
00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:04,600
Speaker 2: and they are there quite amazing.

502
00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:08,920
Speaker 9: Anyhow. The reason I'm calling is I have a music

503
00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:09,800
Speaker 9: question for you.

504
00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:12,000
Speaker 2: Okay, quick, because really quick, oh.

505
00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:14,600
Speaker 9: Quickly, I'm going to name four four groups and I

506
00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:17,040
Speaker 9: want you to tell them what they have in common. Okay,

507
00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:27,000
Speaker 9: Grateful Dad eurythmics, pretenders, and traveling Wilbury they have in common.

508
00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:30,200
Speaker 9: None of them use the words are.

509
00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:36,360
Speaker 2: All right, David, thank you, and you stay healthy. It's

510
00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:38,800
Speaker 2: just say forty four. Let me give you a little

511
00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:41,520
Speaker 2: more scoop on how this works. I've told you how

512
00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:44,680
Speaker 2: they get the egg out of the female one. Another

513
00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:49,640
Speaker 2: bad thing about this is it takes many females that

514
00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:51,680
Speaker 2: you have to use to get the eggs. So you

515
00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:56,200
Speaker 2: have to have this whole subculture of just dogs for parts,

516
00:28:57,600 --> 00:29:00,360
Speaker 2: right that they have to stay somewhere, and they farm

517
00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:04,200
Speaker 2: the eggs out of them. That's horrible. That's horrible, and

518
00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:09,600
Speaker 2: I'm surprised these celebrities would do this. Now, once you

519
00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:15,200
Speaker 2: get the egg and the original egg, the original cell

520
00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:19,000
Speaker 2: and the new one, they take the nucleus out of

521
00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:20,280
Speaker 2: one to put it in the other, and then they

522
00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:24,240
Speaker 2: actually zap it with electricity. They actually do, and that

523
00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:29,800
Speaker 2: fuses the two together. And it's somehow jump starts the

524
00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:33,720
Speaker 2: cell division process, which is particularly interesting because it might

525
00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:37,600
Speaker 2: give you some idea of how life started. There might

526
00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:41,920
Speaker 2: have just been the correct chemicals next to each other

527
00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:46,719
Speaker 2: and lightning hit them and cell division started. It's pretty simple.

528
00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:54,800
Speaker 2: Six seven, two. Would your clown clone your your pet?

529
00:29:55,280 --> 00:29:58,720
Speaker 2: I would not not at all. I'll tell you about

530
00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:02,320
Speaker 2: my pet very briefly right now, and then we'll get

531
00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:03,360
Speaker 2: to Wayne and Kingston.

532
00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:05,480
Speaker 7: So we have.

533
00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:09,160
Speaker 2: Docsin's and not just not the big ones, the little ones.

534
00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:11,520
Speaker 2: I think it seems like their back's not so long

535
00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:16,160
Speaker 2: and they seem more durable. And Molly is a merle

536
00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:19,080
Speaker 2: colored kind of black and white, small and has these

537
00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:24,120
Speaker 2: interesting quirks. She's very time and you may find the

538
00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:28,920
Speaker 2: europe dog is very much the same, very time sensitive,

539
00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:32,320
Speaker 2: like it's time when it's time for breakfast. It is

540
00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:36,959
Speaker 2: time for breakfast when it's time. And the other thing

541
00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:41,000
Speaker 2: is she's a fanatic for the heating pad. She's ruled

542
00:30:41,040 --> 00:30:44,400
Speaker 2: by heat. She will go lay on the radiator and

543
00:30:44,520 --> 00:30:47,320
Speaker 2: then if you can put on the heating pad enough,

544
00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:51,440
Speaker 2: she'll come to the heating pad. But if the radiator

545
00:30:51,560 --> 00:30:54,360
Speaker 2: is still hotter than the heating pad, she won't come

546
00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:56,720
Speaker 2: to the heating pad. And then if the heating pad

547
00:30:56,800 --> 00:30:59,800
Speaker 2: goes off, she starts booping you and hitting your arm,

548
00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:03,320
Speaker 2: like come on, turn the heating pad on again, and

549
00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:06,520
Speaker 2: you have to wrestle her for the heating pad. And

550
00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:10,320
Speaker 2: then about the cutest thing is she knows when it's bedtime,

551
00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:14,760
Speaker 2: about nine o'clock, she'll start, she'll start to go into

552
00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:18,680
Speaker 2: the what is called the big bed. She'll she'll go

553
00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:20,840
Speaker 2: a couple of yards and look back like come on,

554
00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:24,320
Speaker 2: and she won't. And then if we make a move

555
00:31:24,600 --> 00:31:26,880
Speaker 2: towards the big bed, she'll run a little way and

556
00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:29,000
Speaker 2: look back like, are you sure you're coming or you're

557
00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:32,520
Speaker 2: just messing with me? And it's not until we fully

558
00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:34,520
Speaker 2: get up and march in there that she will get

559
00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:39,120
Speaker 2: up on the big bed. And oh, yes, four o'clock

560
00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:43,800
Speaker 2: every afternoon she knows it's time to go visit her

561
00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:48,760
Speaker 2: uncle Davy next door. And so around four o'clock it's,

562
00:31:49,320 --> 00:31:52,920
Speaker 2: you know, start nudging you, come on, come on, let's go. Well,

563
00:31:53,080 --> 00:31:54,960
Speaker 2: run around giving you the look. And then if you

564
00:31:55,040 --> 00:31:59,120
Speaker 2: say the name I want to see Davy. That's that's

565
00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:01,400
Speaker 2: the word. She knows more than anything else, Davy. She

566
00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:06,120
Speaker 2: jumps up, cocks her head and is raring to go.

567
00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:09,360
Speaker 2: Can't get the leshaw on quick enough. She's a sweetheart,

568
00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:13,160
Speaker 2: And we love those little routines. Now after this we're

569
00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:14,960
Speaker 2: gonna talk about a much bigger dog. Oh, by the way,

570
00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:18,920
Speaker 2: would I clone Molly. No way, no way, it wouldn't

571
00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:23,840
Speaker 2: be Mollie. And if I would definitely get another rescue,

572
00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:26,240
Speaker 2: if I were going to get another dog, because if

573
00:32:26,320 --> 00:32:32,280
Speaker 2: I clone Mollie, some poor dog in a shelter, a

574
00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:35,840
Speaker 2: kill shelter will be euthanized. And if I don't, I

575
00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:40,080
Speaker 2: save one. Down south of Tennessee. Down there they have

576
00:32:40,160 --> 00:32:42,640
Speaker 2: these puppy farms and once the dogs get too old,

577
00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:46,000
Speaker 2: they kill them. I don't understand. I don't understand why

578
00:32:46,040 --> 00:32:51,600
Speaker 2: it's legal. But you if you clone your dog instead

579
00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:56,040
Speaker 2: of doing that, I would be said Wayne Kingson's next

580
00:32:56,160 --> 00:32:57,560
Speaker 2: on WBZ.

581
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Speaker 1: You're on Night Side with Dan Ray on WZ Boston's

582
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Speaker 1: news Radio.

583
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Speaker 2: Would you clone your dog even if it were free?

584
00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:10,840
Speaker 2: Yes or no? So far the nose are edging out

585
00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:13,240
Speaker 2: the yeses. Let's go to Wayne and Kingston. It was

586
00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:16,960
Speaker 2: a great big dog. Hello, Hello Wayne, thanks for checking in.

587
00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:20,720
Speaker 8: Hey Bradley, how you doing. I'm gonna jump right into

588
00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:25,040
Speaker 8: that no category with all the other folks. Your your pet,

589
00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:29,880
Speaker 8: your dog is greater than the some total disparts. His

590
00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:33,360
Speaker 8: experiences growing up with you and your household. That's what

591
00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:36,520
Speaker 8: makes him who he is. Well, that story that you

592
00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:38,800
Speaker 8: told about Molly is is a cool story when you

593
00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:41,280
Speaker 8: think about it. Allie has a life spent with you

594
00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:44,640
Speaker 8: and Shannon, and then also with Jack and Daisy that

595
00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:46,840
Speaker 8: you had before they spent She spent time with those

596
00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:49,360
Speaker 8: two dogs too, so that's who she is. You could

597
00:33:49,400 --> 00:33:50,240
Speaker 8: never replace that.

598
00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:55,200
Speaker 2: We mentioned Jack and Daisy. Gotta I gotta mentioned Gator

599
00:33:55,560 --> 00:33:57,680
Speaker 2: and Skyler two. I can't leave those guys out.

600
00:33:58,640 --> 00:34:01,200
Speaker 8: Yeah, absolutely, I didn't even get a chance to even

601
00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:03,600
Speaker 8: get to them. But that's that's who Daisy is. And

602
00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:06,720
Speaker 8: Quinn my dog, now that I have Swiss Mountain dog,

603
00:34:07,280 --> 00:34:10,520
Speaker 8: he is his his his environment is what makes what

604
00:34:10,640 --> 00:34:13,120
Speaker 8: he is. And he was born from a large litter

605
00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:15,360
Speaker 8: of eleven puppies, so he has a lot of siblings

606
00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:18,280
Speaker 8: in that litter. And if you would have cloned him tomorrow,

607
00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:22,120
Speaker 8: that could never be repeated. It just couldn't happen. So

608
00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:24,960
Speaker 8: you know your dog, We had Zurich, a Swiss bound

609
00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:27,160
Speaker 8: dog before him, and he was a big part of

610
00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:30,279
Speaker 8: the life of our horse Paddington. You can't create that

611
00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:33,640
Speaker 8: environment anymore, so there's no way the cloning. The cloning

612
00:34:33,680 --> 00:34:35,839
Speaker 8: would produce the same pet. It's just it's the same

613
00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:37,520
Speaker 8: thing with a human you just couldn't do it again.

614
00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:40,840
Speaker 2: Plus it's just creepy.

615
00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:46,600
Speaker 8: It is creepy, absolute he is creepys.

616
00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:49,960
Speaker 2: Wayne shows Quinn and it's pretty successful. You have a

617
00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:51,080
Speaker 2: recent show you went too.

618
00:34:52,640 --> 00:34:56,520
Speaker 8: Yes, we were just actually at the dog show in Boxboro,

619
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Speaker 8: Massachusetts last weekend, and h we didn't win Best at Breed,

620
00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:03,560
Speaker 8: but we did get pretty close. We got it's called

621
00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:07,160
Speaker 8: best of Breed own are handled because that's a separate category,

622
00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:09,200
Speaker 8: so we got to look. We got an award for

623
00:35:09,320 --> 00:35:11,840
Speaker 8: that show, and then we'll be off to Springfield next weekend.

624
00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:14,560
Speaker 8: So we've got a few things going on on our

625
00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:16,640
Speaker 8: calendar here, so we're having a good time. We have

626
00:35:16,719 --> 00:35:19,880
Speaker 8: a lot of friends out there in the dog show world.

627
00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:24,880
Speaker 8: And what's what's nice about it is that people are

628
00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:30,000
Speaker 8: who do this breed quality dogs. They don't just do

629
00:35:30,200 --> 00:35:32,959
Speaker 8: puppy mill stuff. They hear all those sad stories about

630
00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:36,839
Speaker 8: because that's so they're so wrong with puppy mills. They

631
00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:39,960
Speaker 8: just irresponsibly breed dogs and they don't even realize by

632
00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:45,200
Speaker 8: what they're doing that they're actually breeding unhealthy animals going forward,

633
00:35:45,719 --> 00:35:47,640
Speaker 8: and like you said about all the rescues, that's a

634
00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:49,600
Speaker 8: that's a lot of book Gold to try to, you know,

635
00:35:49,680 --> 00:35:51,640
Speaker 8: to try to provide a home to a rescue dog.

636
00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:54,319
Speaker 8: But a lot of that is the result of people

637
00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:57,800
Speaker 8: who will irresponsibly breed because they're breeding dogs that have

638
00:35:58,040 --> 00:36:01,719
Speaker 8: diseases and cancer and all kinds of hip displays, your

639
00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:04,279
Speaker 8: shoulder problems and things like that, and that's how they

640
00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:05,480
Speaker 8: end up in these shelters.

641
00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:07,719
Speaker 2: Well, thank you so much for checking in and all

642
00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:10,839
Speaker 2: the best to you, know you and your family, including Quinn.

643
00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:12,719
Speaker 8: Thank you all right, and you give them all your

644
00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:13,840
Speaker 8: path for me please.

645
00:36:13,800 --> 00:36:20,400
Speaker 2: Okay, we'll do that's Wayne, good guy. Okay, let's go

646
00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:24,000
Speaker 2: through what we learned and really see how we feel

647
00:36:24,040 --> 00:36:27,680
Speaker 2: about the cloning. I guess you can tell from my

648
00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:31,880
Speaker 2: the things I'm saying that I am completely against it

649
00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:37,040
Speaker 2: for a number of reasons. To recount those reasons, one,

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Speaker 2: it won't be the same dog, and you could have

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Speaker 2: got a rescue dog or if you need to, you know,

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Speaker 2: get a fancy dog for showing you could do that,

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Speaker 2: but it's not the way to go. But one reason

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Speaker 2: is that it takes many other dogs to do this procedure,

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Speaker 2: and those dogs are just kind of used for parts.

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Speaker 2: As I say, that part being he and I know

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Speaker 2: I mentioned it won't be the same dog. What about

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Speaker 2: the failures. There are a lot of them that don't

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Speaker 2: take And that's pretty sad. If this if that were

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Speaker 2: a human situation and you had a fetuses just not

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Speaker 2: making it, I mean that would that would be awful

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Speaker 2: the same thing it's I think it's an insult to

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Speaker 2: your dog to try to replace it. Every time you

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Speaker 2: look at this clone dog, you're going to say, oh,

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Speaker 2: you're gonna feel bad about the clone source your original dog.

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Speaker 2: And you know what, it's not free. It's fifty grand.

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Speaker 2: So say you're a rich person, and maybe you are.

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Speaker 2: You know what, please do something else with that fifty grand.

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Speaker 2: Imagine what fifty thousand dollars would do for a place

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Speaker 2: like Schultzer Guesthouse in Dedham. I've dealt with them and

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Speaker 2: for sixteen years they've been getting rescue dogs and fostering

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Speaker 2: them I guess you call it, and finding them homes.

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Speaker 2: They say, for over sixteen years, we've dedicated ourselves to

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Speaker 2: their will being, turning compassion into action, one tale at

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Speaker 2: a time. And I think we got one of our

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Speaker 2: dogs in there and another one and I'm glad I

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Speaker 2: have a little time for this quick story. There's a

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Speaker 2: place called New House Wildlife Rescue and we found a

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Speaker 2: little bit of goose in the road. It was going

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Speaker 2: to be killed. We took it there and they actually

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Speaker 2: reunited it with another goose family and it took and

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Speaker 2: everyone lived happily ever after. So spend your fifty grand

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Speaker 2: on that please. This is WBZ and I'll talk to

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Speaker 2: you well right after this