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Speaker 3: college football playoff semifinals, It's saw NFL wild Card weekend.

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Speaker 3: active right now, not just for players, but as we

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Speaker 3: get started here today, there is a new defensive coordinator

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Speaker 3: in town for the University of Cincinnati Bearcats, Matt Eberflus. Nope, Oh,

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Speaker 3: he comes to Lewis. He comes to the Bearcats via

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Speaker 3: Louisnarumo Army Army coach k thirty eight year old or

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Speaker 3: I'm not. He's not a thirty eight he's thirty eight

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Speaker 3: The new coach of the Cincinnati Bearcats defense Nate Woody.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, you'll be considered the bad boy at that point.

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Speaker 3: from the Chicago Bears any way you slice it though,

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Speaker 3: absolutely phenomenal, phenomenal football game on Saturday night, with the

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Speaker 3: Bears coming out on top.

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Speaker 5: The fact that they were one for four on fourth

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Speaker 5: downs in the first half and had two turnovers in

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Speaker 5: the red zone and still came back and won that game.

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Speaker 5: Is nothing short of amazing. And I think the biggest

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Speaker 5: reason for that is that, for whatever reason, Matt Lafleur,

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Speaker 5: when he has a lead, goes into this self preservation

445
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Speaker 5: mode and doesn't take shots down the field and doesn't

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Speaker 5: remain aggressive, and doesn't take time off the clock and

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Speaker 5: doesn't nurse his lead at all. He gets scared, He

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Speaker 5: coaches scared, and level was fantastic for much of them.

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Speaker 5: A repeated issue with Matt Lafleoor and a lot of

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Speaker 5: Packers fans. It's one of the issues that they have

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Speaker 5: with him is when he gets a bad lead or

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Speaker 5: a big lead, he takes his foot off the gas

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Speaker 5: and lets teams back into it. You might remember that

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Speaker 5: playoff game they had a couple of years ago in

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Speaker 5: which they were trouncing the Dallas Cowboys. He took his

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Speaker 5: starters out of the game and next thing you know,

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Speaker 5: he had to put him back in because that game

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Speaker 5: got close again. That's the type of stuff that Matt

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Speaker 5: Lafleur does that has a lot of Packers fans fed

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Speaker 5: up with him and then losing a game to a

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Speaker 5: rival like that just doesn't bode well with a lot

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Speaker 5: of Packer fans. Now, the reports are this morning that

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Speaker 5: he and the Packers are going to work towards some

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Speaker 5: sort of an agreement to extend him. I heard a

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Speaker 5: point this morning by Ross Tucker that I agree with,

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Speaker 5: which is, why is it a big deal when coaches

467
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Speaker 5: go into it the final year of their deal like

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Speaker 5: players do this all the time free agency is pending,

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Speaker 5: blah blah blah blah blah. Why is it a big

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Speaker 5: deal for coaches to not be either a lame duck

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Speaker 5: coach or just be in a contract year. I don't

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Speaker 5: understand why that's such a big deal. As far as

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Speaker 5: the Bears are concerned, Ben Johnson has that team believing

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Speaker 5: that they can win anything. I think it's been seven

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Speaker 5: times this year when they've been tied or trailing at

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Speaker 5: the two minute warning and found a way to win.

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Speaker 5: Their comeback victories are ridiculous and it's awesome. Like Caleb Williams,

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Speaker 5: when he's playing within the structure of the offense, looks

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Speaker 5: like Josh Rosen, and as soon as he's out of structure,

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Speaker 5: he looks like Patrick mahomes and makes mahomes like throws,

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Speaker 5: and that's what he did down the stretch man. It

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Speaker 5: was a pretty impressive performance. I think the Bears are

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Speaker 5: very much who Duke Tobin thinks the Bengals are. Like,

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Speaker 5: they didn't force any turnovers, but they've been an opportunistic

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Speaker 5: team defensively throughout the season. They're not a great defense.

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Speaker 5: They have a collection of fine players. They have one

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Speaker 5: or two really good players, but that's it. Like they

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Speaker 5: have Kevin Byrd and Jalen Johnson are like their best players,

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Speaker 5: and the bunch of just guys. But it's think like

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Speaker 5: their whole philosophy is be opportunistic, force turnovers, bow up

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Speaker 5: in the red zone, and our offense will take care

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Speaker 5: of the rest. Like the Bears are who the Bengals

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Speaker 5: want to be. I don't know that you should aim

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Speaker 5: that low. I think you should aim higher, especially defensively,

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Speaker 5: but that I think is the way that the Bears

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Speaker 5: have played. I think that's who the Bengals think they are.

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Speaker 3: It's also unique in a way of just how much

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Speaker 3: confidence goes in football because they got lit up in

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Speaker 3: the first half, but in the second half, Austin, that's

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Speaker 3: Chicago defense, especially in the secondary. The amount of confidence

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Speaker 3: they played with it was like a switch flipped and

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Speaker 3: you could just see it mounting in the pressure, mounting

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Speaker 3: on Green Bay. It's crazy in this sport, how you

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Speaker 3: go through these runs over the course of four quarters.

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Speaker 3: It's fascinating to watch. Let's take a break, let's come back,

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Speaker 3: Let's talk about the games that happened yesterday. We'll peek

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Speaker 3: ahead to tonight's game between these Steelers and the Texans.

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Speaker 3: And there are already folks out there that are big

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Speaker 3: mad Austin about scheduling for next weekend and what the

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Speaker 3: divisional round or the yes, the divisional round will look like.

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Speaker 3: So we'll put a bow on the wild Card weekend

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Speaker 3: next and look ahead in the National Football League on

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Speaker 3: ESPN fifteen to thirty, Cincinnati Sports Station.

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Speaker 3: Welcome back. It is Sincy three to sixty. Thanks to

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Speaker 3: Skyline Chili. Thank you for listening as we push through

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Speaker 3: the rest of wild Card Weekend. The Sunday games. The

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Speaker 3: Bill's Jags to me, Austin, that was the biggest the

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Speaker 3: biggest realization to me of how hard it is because

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Speaker 3: the Jags did such a good job in the regular season.

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Speaker 3: They won eight games to finish out their regular season,

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Speaker 3: and what they got to show for was a first

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Speaker 3: round loss at home to the Buffalo Bills, where Josh

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Speaker 3: Allen was fantastic both with his arm and his legs.

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Speaker 3: But it also goes to show the amount of pressure

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Speaker 3: that comes into these games and how easy it is

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Speaker 3: to get away from what has worked so well for

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Speaker 3: a team. If you look at just the box score Austin,

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Speaker 3: this game was always within one score, and at times

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Speaker 3: you felt like the Jags just got away with what

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Speaker 3: was working and that was the running game. Yeah, etn

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Speaker 3: ran for six point seven yards of carry, only got

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Speaker 3: ten touches, Tuton ran for fifty one yards, only got

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Speaker 3: four touches. As a team, they ran it for one

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Speaker 3: hundred and fifty four yards and six point seven yards

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Speaker 3: per carry, but between their running backs just fourteen carries.

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Speaker 3: And I know Trevor Lawrence had been phenomenal down the

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Speaker 3: stretch and yes Day wasn't as good with two interceptions

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Speaker 3: to go along with three touchdowns, But it felt like

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Speaker 3: the Jags went a little bit away from what got

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Speaker 3: them there, and the Buffalo Bills did exactly the opposite.

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Speaker 3: They leaned on what they have and that's one of

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Speaker 3: the best, if not the best player in the league

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Speaker 3: right now in Josh Allen.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, and pretty much every single metric. These

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Speaker 5: teams were neck and neck for this entire game, especially

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Speaker 5: when you look at some of the team's stats. But

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Speaker 5: I think the reason why they got away from it,

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Speaker 5: and this might have been, you know, Liam Cohens, inexperienced

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Speaker 5: as a head coach, is just the feel like Buffalo

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Speaker 5: had the ball the entire game, thirty three minutes of possession,

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Speaker 5: almost thirty four minutes of possession, which is well obviously

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Speaker 5: over half the game. Buffalo was in possession of the football,

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Speaker 5: and I think when you are seeing that in Buffalo

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Speaker 5: may not be scoring every drive or scoring a touchdown

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Speaker 5: every drive, but they're draining the clock and that puts

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Speaker 5: pressure on Jacksonville. I agree with you. I was at

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Speaker 5: one point during the game, like, man, why are they

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Speaker 5: not running the ball?

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Speaker 4: Yep?

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Speaker 5: Why are they not running the ball? And I don't

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Speaker 5: know if it was just a fear of getting behind,

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Speaker 5: or of running out of time or whatever, it might

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Speaker 5: have been, but as you mentioned, it was always a

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Speaker 5: pretty close game. It never felt like it was out

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Speaker 5: of reach or potentially out of reach for Jacksonville. But

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Speaker 5: those dudes, they're a fun team and I think they're

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Speaker 5: gonna keep getting better. The emergence of Parker Washington, which

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Speaker 5: you know when things did kind of hang in the balance,

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Speaker 5: was when he was in the locker room getting evaluated

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Speaker 5: for a concussion. That is an entirely different team without

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Speaker 5: him on the field, Like their offense runs through Parker Washington,

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Speaker 5: much like you'll see tonight, the Steelers offense runs through

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Speaker 5: Kenneth Gainwell, and when he's not on the field, it's

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Speaker 5: a different football team. And so no Josh got banged

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Speaker 5: up in this game. I have a complaint. Maybe I'm

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Speaker 5: a boomer, Maybe get off my lawn, but we gotta

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Speaker 5: look at this rule about carrying ball carriers because he

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Speaker 5: tries to do the tush push and gets picked up

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Speaker 5: by an offensive lineman and basically walked into the end.

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Speaker 5: I feel like we see this more and more now too.

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Speaker 5: It's getting worse and worse. Like there's already a rule

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Speaker 5: for like you can't pull a defender, yeah, or pull

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Speaker 5: one of your players, but like you gotta pick, you

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Speaker 5: can't let dudes just pick guys up. I agree, I

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Speaker 5: did not like that. I think that's something that's going

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Speaker 5: to be addressed in the offseason.

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Speaker 3: Two other games forty nine Ers Eagles, it felt like

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Speaker 3: down the stretch this was gonna be inevitable. The Eagles

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Speaker 3: offense just struggled down the stretch. They struggled more yesterday.

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Speaker 3: AJ Brown had some big drops. It just always felt

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Speaker 3: clunky this year offensively for the Eagles. On the other side,

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Speaker 3: another one hundred plus yard total game from Christian McCaffrey.

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Speaker 3: Brock Party did just enough. They lose George Kittle and

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Speaker 3: funny story that comes out of that, George Kittle tears

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Speaker 3: his achilles in locker room. They're reporting at a bottle

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Speaker 3: of tequila was delivered to George Kittle. But even in

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Speaker 3: losing Kittle and a defense that's been decimated by injuries

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Speaker 3: all year, I thought a very impressive performance on the

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Speaker 3: road as a pretty significant underdog. To me, Shanahan ran

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Speaker 3: circles around all of Philadelphia and Sirianni. This was more

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Speaker 3: about to me the Philadelphia Eagles and their shortcomings. But

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Speaker 3: give credit to the Niners who got the job done

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Speaker 3: down the stretch and they go get a big playoff

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Speaker 3: win on the road.

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Speaker 5: I always thought San Francisco was going to win this game,

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Speaker 5: but I think I had started to convince myself that

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Speaker 5: Philadelphia's defense with the injuries, would just be too much,

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Speaker 5: and that I trusted Vic Fangio to do something to

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Speaker 5: Brock Purdy, and he did get him to throw two interceptions,

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Speaker 5: but because of the lack of offensive output by the Eagles,

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Speaker 5: which has been the story all year, they weren't able

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Speaker 5: to capitalize on that. You mentioned the two drops by

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Speaker 5: AJ Brown. This entirely different football game if he catches

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Speaker 5: those two passes, entirely different game. And when Kittle got out,

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Speaker 5: I was like, when Kittle went out, I was like,

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Speaker 5: all right, yeah, San Francisco's finished. They have nobody left

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Speaker 5: to help this offense other than Christian McCaffrey. And sure

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Speaker 5: enough they had Juwan Jennings, so at one point was

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Speaker 5: a top ten ranked quarterback in a recruiting class a

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Speaker 5: few years ago when he was coming in to college,

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Speaker 5: threw a perfect ball to McCaffrey. That's the thing, like,

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Speaker 5: with all the injuries, with all the stuff going on,

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Speaker 5: the road, all the stuff that had been going on

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Speaker 5: with San Francisco, they had to resort to trick play

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Speaker 5: to get a touchdown on the board, and it worked

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Speaker 5: and that ended up being the difference in the game.

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Speaker 5: And then Philadelphia at the end, Jalen Hurts does not

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Speaker 5: do enough with his legs. He's got to use his

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Speaker 5: legs more. I don't understand the drops from aj Brown.

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Speaker 5: And then on the final play of the game, they

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Speaker 5: just run a pretty basic four verticals concept with kind

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Speaker 5: of like a dig and a post, and when they're

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Speaker 5: protecting the end zone. That's that's not hard to defend.

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Speaker 5: I don't understand what that was.

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Speaker 4: It was.

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Speaker 3: It's just the most San Francisco way. DeMarcus Robinson leads

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Speaker 3: the way in receiving with one hundred and eleven yards

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Speaker 3: fifty yards off the jump used check had fifty receiving yards.

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Speaker 3: It's just they find ways to do it, and it

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Speaker 3: is It's a credit to them and what they're able

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Speaker 3: to do the last game of the night off.

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Speaker 5: Do you feel like they can win the Super Bowl though?

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Speaker 3: I still don't. Okay, I just don't now from one er.

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Speaker 3: If he's able to come back, that changes things. Sure,

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Speaker 3: so that could be a completely different look and we'll

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Speaker 3: look at the schedule. Had one other one and I thought,

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Speaker 3: kind of the dud of the weekend. And if you

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Speaker 3: like defense, then it wasn't a dud for you. But

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Speaker 3: Drake may was okay. He wasn't his normal self. That

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Speaker 3: New England defense though. Man, they hit Herbert twenty one

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Speaker 3: different times in the game. Los Angeles unable to get

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Speaker 3: anything going on the ground of Marion Hampton just won

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Speaker 3: carry for negative one yards. Vidal wasn't able to do anything.

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Speaker 3: Herbert carried it ten times for him. Herbert wasn't great.

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Speaker 3: This to me, though, Austin. At some point the injuries

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Speaker 3: were going to catch up to the Chargers, and it

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Speaker 3: felt like they fully did on the offensive line. Give

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Speaker 3: credit to the Patriots because once you get to the playoffs,

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Speaker 3: it's not about how you do it. It's just about

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Speaker 3: advancing an impressive defensive performance and a good sixteen to

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Speaker 3: three win for the Patriots.

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Speaker 5: This reminded me of the Bengals Colts playoff game from

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Speaker 5: the twenty fourteen season, when the Bengals just had basically

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Speaker 5: everybody hurt. I mean, they're starting their top receivers were

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Speaker 5: Giovanni Bernard and Ryan Hewitt and Rex Burkhead where it

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Speaker 5: was just like they don't have a chance against Andrew Luck.

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Speaker 5: And that's kind of what we saw last night. I mean,

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Speaker 5: I felt bad for Herbert at one point because he

672
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Speaker 5: was just getting destroyed. He's got a broken hand, he's

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Speaker 5: got the worst offensive line in the National Football League.

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Speaker 5: He's running for his life. I thought, by the way,

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Speaker 5: Chris Collinsworth was all over it early on, where he's like,

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Speaker 5: whichever quarterback runs better tonight, their team's gonna win. And

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Speaker 5: sure enough, both quarterbacks ran it ten times. Drake May

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Speaker 5: ran it for sixty six, justin Herbert ran it for

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Speaker 5: fifty seven. Obviously got sacked a ton, but Drake May

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Speaker 5: delivered a great ball late in that game to Hunter

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Speaker 5: Henry against his former team to make it happen. But yeah,

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Speaker 5: I mean that story. I'm still not fully convinced on

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Speaker 5: New England. I mean, clearly their defense is good and

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Speaker 5: the guys that they have. Milton Williams was playing out

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Speaker 5: of his mind, but he was basically playing up against

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Speaker 5: you know, second and third string guys.

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Speaker 4: We'll see how it goes next week.

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Speaker 3: We'll talk more about the matchup tonight. As we go,

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Speaker 3: we do know the matchups next week weekend Austin, and

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Speaker 3: there are people that are pushing back a little bit

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Speaker 3: on the timing in which the games are being played.

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Speaker 3: Do you have any problem with the schedule that has

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Speaker 3: come out for next weekend? Bill's Broncos Saturday, forty nine

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Speaker 3: or Seahawks Saturday, and then your Sunday games, Rams Bears,

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Speaker 3: and then the winner of tonight's game will take on

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Speaker 3: the New England Patriots. I think a lot of the

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Speaker 3: people pushing back are saying, well, the Rams and the

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Speaker 3: Bears played Saturday, now they get an extra day of rest,

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Speaker 3: while teams like the forty nine ers play a late

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Speaker 3: game on Sunday. Now they got to travel to Seattle

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Speaker 3: play earlier without as much rest. Do you have an

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Speaker 3: issue with how the scheduling is being changed up at

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Speaker 3: all for the NFL Divisional round?

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Speaker 8: Yeah?

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Speaker 5: I mean primarily the NFC games. They should have just

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Speaker 5: been flipped.

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Speaker 6: Yep.

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Speaker 4: It doesn't make sense.

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Speaker 5: It's pretty simple, and this is I think the second

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Speaker 5: or third time where San Francisco's kind of been screwed

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Speaker 5: on a short week rest after an East Coast trip.

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Speaker 4: So if you remember in.

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Speaker 5: Week eighteen they moved them up to that Saturday night

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Speaker 5: game in Seattle. Yeah, and that was after an East

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Speaker 5: Coast trip. And Kyle Shanahan even said in his postgame

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Speaker 5: press conference that he hopes the NFL would be cool

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Speaker 5: and consider it of them and give them that extra

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Speaker 5: day of rest. And obviously they didn't. I think it's

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Speaker 5: pretty simple to just flip La and Chicago. I don't

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Speaker 5: know why they wouldn't. We knew that the Patriots it

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Speaker 5: would play on Sunday because they would play the winner

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Speaker 5: of tonight's game, and that team because it's all because

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Speaker 5: you have to play a freaking Monday night game, which

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Speaker 5: is ridiculous, but they do it all for TV. But Yeah,

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Speaker 5: I thought the NFL should have flipped those two. I

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Speaker 5: think that's a I think that's a legit beef, especially

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Speaker 5: for a team that's already got a ton of injuries.

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Speaker 3: Agreed, we'll take our final break. We'll grab a phone

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Speaker 3: callar to to finish out the hour. We've got a

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Speaker 3: lot of college basketball to get to, We've got some

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Speaker 3: major league baseball to get to. We do have to

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Speaker 3: follow up a little bit on maybe some outstanding duke

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Speaker 3: Tobin things that were left on Friday that we didn't

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Speaker 3: really get a chance to talk about, but so much

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Speaker 3: more still ahead. We'll open up the phone lines next

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Speaker 3: on the Home of the Bengals, ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati

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Speaker 3: Sports Station, Wcjames.

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Speaker 1: This is ESPN fifteen thirty at iHeartRadio Station.

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Speaker 3: Welcome back since the three sixty a Monday afternoon edition.

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Speaker 3: On the Home of the Bengals, ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati

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Speaker 3: Sports Station. We'll look at the college basketball weekend that

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Speaker 3: was and what's coming up to kick off our number

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Speaker 3: two a Wes Miller conversation that will continue to have

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Speaker 3: and so much more along with your talkbacks, some Major

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Speaker 3: League baseball and more on the NFL. For now, a

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Speaker 3: couple phone calls to wind down the hour. John is

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Speaker 3: calling in.

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Speaker 9: What's up, John, Good afternoon, Happy Monday, Tony, Happy Monday, Austin.

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Speaker 4: How are you thank you? John? John?

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Speaker 9: All right, just a few takeaways from Douketobn's press conference

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Speaker 9: on Friday. First of all, he should never laugh. He

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Speaker 9: has one of the most maniacal laughs I've ever heard.

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Speaker 6: Sound good.

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Speaker 9: So whatever the boys that have to ask him questions,

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Speaker 9: although they don't get too many times to ask him.

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Speaker 9: The boys and girls they gets to ask some questions

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Speaker 9: don't make him laugh because that's kind of creepy. As

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Speaker 9: far as what he had to say, First of all,

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Speaker 9: he loves his scouting staff, all eight of them. My

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Speaker 9: question is, if they're so good, why have the draft's

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Speaker 9: been so underwhelming? It Maybe it's hand the guy pulling

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Speaker 9: the trigger who's making the decisions, So there's some disconnect there.

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Speaker 6: They they've been underwhelming.

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Speaker 9: For the last several years, So that's one thing.

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Speaker 6: The other thing, too, is that he says that his scouts.

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Speaker 9: Despite having a small scouting staff, don't miss anything. And

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Speaker 9: I talked to you guys numerous times about this last

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Speaker 9: spring pro day at Boston College. Thirty one teams showed

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Speaker 9: up to that except for the Cincinnati Bengals and the

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Speaker 9: PC Eagles. Had two second round picks on that team,

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Speaker 9: Denderman Azaraku, who is a finalist for Defensive Rookie of

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Speaker 9: the Year as an edge rusher, and also Ozzie Tripio,

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Speaker 9: who got hurt on Saturday night hurt his knee. Has

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Speaker 9: been a real fine for the Chicago Bears on their

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Speaker 9: offensive lines. Would you rather have those two guys than

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Speaker 9: the two guys that Bengals drafted with their.

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Speaker 6: First two picks. I would say, yes, right, and they

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Speaker 6: would have addressed their needs.

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Speaker 9: You know, So if you don't go there to scout them,

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Speaker 9: maybe you don't know much about them. Also, when he

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Speaker 9: talked about Joe Flacco like they had made the biggest trade,

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Speaker 9: you know, since Reggie White signed as a free at

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Speaker 9: the Packers thirty years ago. And let's not forget Flacco.

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Speaker 9: A great story was one in five. But the thing

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Speaker 9: that really kind of drive me a little bit is

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Speaker 9: he kind of dissed his franchise quarterback. I mean, first

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Speaker 9: of all, he didn't use his name for a few times. Yeah,

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Speaker 9: he said that, you know, he said that he they

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Speaker 9: weren't able to close games because our highest paid offensive

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Speaker 9: player and our highest paid defensive.

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Speaker 6: Players weren't on the field.

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Speaker 9: I mean, so, you know, we think we've done enough

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Speaker 9: to surround Joe to be successful. Well, finally, I think

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Speaker 9: the offensive line has headed in the right direction, but

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Speaker 9: it was never good before that. I don't know if

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Speaker 9: it's the brightest thing that you know, kind of dish

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Speaker 9: your franchise quarterback when he's the biggest reason you have

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Speaker 9: a chance to do what these teams are doing in

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Speaker 9: the playoffs this year. So I think there's a major

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Speaker 9: disconnect there and we'll just have to see how this

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Speaker 9: unfolds during the offseason.

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Speaker 4: Agreed. Agreed, John, thank you for the call, man, I

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Speaker 4: appreciate you fellas.

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Speaker 3: Yes, sir, there is there's I want to get to

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Speaker 3: this inn hour number three, Austin, because the more I

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Speaker 3: thought about the Duke Tobin side of things over the weekend,

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Speaker 3: the more I thought he just over complicated things.

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Speaker 4: A little bit.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I had had a similar.

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Speaker 3: I feel like there were some easy things that he

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Speaker 3: could have said that would have appeased a lot of people.

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Speaker 3: We'll get to that in our number three. Let's grab

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Speaker 3: one more phone call here. Mike is calling in hen Mike.

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Speaker 10: Thanks Fellows. Hope you had a good weekend you too.

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Speaker 10: The football sure was fun, I know that, except that

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Speaker 10: last dug last night.

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Speaker 3: I think I think we were waiting on the shoot

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Speaker 3: a drop at some point with the Chargers, just based

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Speaker 3: on the injuries they were dealing with.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, I mean, you can't go for the whole season

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Speaker 10: without either look starting left tackle, and it just goes

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Speaker 10: on and on. Hampton's heard he can you the way

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Speaker 10: when I'm with Austin, I feel sorry for Herbert. He's

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Speaker 10: getting luckily, he's a big guy. If that was Bryce Young,

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Speaker 10: he's being.

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Speaker 4: A hospital took a lot of hits.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, he took a lot of speaking offs. Talk about

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Speaker 10: Bryce Shong later. I got the two predictions tonight. Hey,

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Speaker 10: Aaron Rodgers, you better be ready Cowboys, because you're gonna

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Speaker 10: get a four man rush, the baddest rush I've seen

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Speaker 10: in years, and seven men in coverage on every play

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Speaker 10: that you want to throw it. So good luck, Aaron.

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Speaker 10: You're gonna need all you can get.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the the initial thought I have on tonight. If

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Speaker 3: Pittsburgh early in the game cannot generate anything in their

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Speaker 3: running game against four, it's gonna be a long night

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Speaker 3: for Aaron Rodgers.

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Speaker 11: Could be brutal.

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Speaker 10: And Josh Allen you know, you gotta like Josh Allen

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Speaker 10: look and you know like he's denying a good person.

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Speaker 10: He's a hell of a quarterback. He's like a snow

842
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Speaker 10: plowed one running that football. I'm with you guys on

843
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Speaker 10: that push push. That thing needs to be completely eliminated.

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Speaker 10: You just don't need it. Yes, stupid, but last night

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Speaker 10: there were coming up in this game against Denver. Now

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Speaker 10: watch out, Josh, because you're not gonna see there's a

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Speaker 10: pretty tough defense next to Houston. They're right there, so

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Speaker 10: you haven't played the defense like that. The only thing I.

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Speaker 12: Did well, the only thing I did the Bills some

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Speaker 12: hope for is that Denver's got a four running game,

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Speaker 12: So I don't know if that can help him win.

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Speaker 12: But that's what I got to say about that.

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Speaker 3: That's the weakness of Buffalo, and it's why I'm surprised

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Speaker 3: Jacksonville didn't do it more because they ran it so effectively.

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Speaker 4: They just didn't run it enough.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, it was just really strange. Caleb click. Caleb Williams

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Speaker 10: loves chaos. There's just no question. He loves chaos. He

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Speaker 10: must be he must not sleep, He must just love.

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Speaker 10: You must worry. I don't know what the guy's up on,

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Speaker 10: but he made two throws of the year last night yesterday,

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Speaker 10: and Dan Orlovsky agreed those throws were under one throw.

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Speaker 10: He was completely off his feat. Yep, he was incredible

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Speaker 10: time to the boundary. So this guy is something else.

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Speaker 10: Do you think Shanahan for sure is the in my

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Speaker 10: opinion right now, got to be the best coach in

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Speaker 10: the NFL.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, what he's been able to do in the injuries

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Speaker 3: they've overcome, I would find it hard to go against it.

869
00:45:18,320 --> 00:45:21,319
Speaker 3: There are so many options this year, you know that

870
00:45:21,320 --> 00:45:23,240
Speaker 3: that have done it with teams in a short amount

871
00:45:23,280 --> 00:45:26,040
Speaker 3: of time. But what he continues to do. He I

872
00:45:26,200 --> 00:45:28,200
Speaker 3: don't know that that many folks get the most out

873
00:45:28,200 --> 00:45:29,640
Speaker 3: of their roster more than Shanahan.

874
00:45:30,680 --> 00:45:33,319
Speaker 10: No, because all of those guys are second strangers. Hey

875
00:45:33,320 --> 00:45:33,800
Speaker 10: how about that?

876
00:45:33,920 --> 00:45:34,120
Speaker 13: You know?

877
00:45:34,200 --> 00:45:36,799
Speaker 10: And then I know you got to go the football.

878
00:45:36,840 --> 00:45:40,560
Speaker 10: Over the weekend, Oregon was missing their top running back Whittington.

879
00:45:40,600 --> 00:45:43,400
Speaker 10: Where was he from the Western Kentucky Hilltopper?

880
00:45:43,520 --> 00:45:43,799
Speaker 4: That's it?

881
00:45:44,040 --> 00:45:47,839
Speaker 10: And yesterday the Niners that big defensive lineman that made

882
00:45:47,840 --> 00:45:51,000
Speaker 10: that big play Western Kentucky Hilltopper. I'm going to have

883
00:45:51,040 --> 00:45:53,560
Speaker 10: to research how many guys from Western Kentucky are in

884
00:45:53,560 --> 00:45:56,720
Speaker 10: the NFL because Paduka is the biggest city over there.

885
00:45:56,640 --> 00:45:58,520
Speaker 4: Right, yes, sir, there's nothing else.

886
00:45:58,960 --> 00:45:59,760
Speaker 10: Isn't that amazing?

887
00:46:00,480 --> 00:46:02,960
Speaker 5: Don't they have Bailey Zappy too? I think so Ba

888
00:46:04,040 --> 00:46:05,799
Speaker 5: with the Browns exactly right?

889
00:46:05,880 --> 00:46:09,680
Speaker 14: Austin, Yep, you're right, pal, but that school is not

890
00:46:09,800 --> 00:46:10,799
Speaker 14: known for football, but.

891
00:46:10,800 --> 00:46:13,279
Speaker 10: They're always pretty good, aren't they you? They're always bad,

892
00:46:13,560 --> 00:46:14,360
Speaker 10: you know, not bad?

893
00:46:14,600 --> 00:46:15,839
Speaker 6: Yes, anyway, I gotta go.

894
00:46:16,080 --> 00:46:18,279
Speaker 4: Mike, Thanks man, thanks for the appreciate you.

895
00:46:19,280 --> 00:46:19,520
Speaker 6: Yeah.

896
00:46:20,280 --> 00:46:23,239
Speaker 3: All right, we got to do this, Austin. We've got

897
00:46:23,280 --> 00:46:25,880
Speaker 3: to talk about the latest loss for the University of

898
00:46:25,880 --> 00:46:29,480
Speaker 3: Cincinnati basketball team. I have a lot of thoughts on that.

899
00:46:29,600 --> 00:46:32,479
Speaker 3: I have thoughts on Wednesday and going forward. Will also

900
00:46:32,520 --> 00:46:35,080
Speaker 3: shine a light on what the other local teams did

901
00:46:35,440 --> 00:46:37,719
Speaker 3: over the weekend as well. That will kick off hour

902
00:46:37,840 --> 00:46:40,760
Speaker 3: two next on the Home of the Bengals, ESPN fifteen thirty,

903
00:46:40,760 --> 00:46:42,040
Speaker 3: Cincinnati Sports Station.

904
00:46:42,360 --> 00:46:45,120
Speaker 15: Until you see why Cincinnati make us the number one

905
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Speaker 15: pre sent on your car radio and on the free

906
00:46:47,120 --> 00:46:50,640
Speaker 15: knew it improved, iHeartRadio app Free never sounded so good,

907
00:46:51,040 --> 00:46:52,400
Speaker 15: ESPN fifteen thirty.

908
00:46:53,000 --> 00:46:54,680
Speaker 4: Well, the holidays have come and gone?

909
00:46:54,719 --> 00:46:59,640
Speaker 1: Was is Tony Pike since E three sixty about Cincinnati?

910
00:47:00,080 --> 00:47:01,120
Speaker 2: From Cincinnati?

911
00:47:01,320 --> 00:47:06,000
Speaker 1: This is ESPN fifteen thirty, Cincinnati Sports Station.

912
00:47:08,120 --> 00:47:12,040
Speaker 3: All right, welcome back our number two Sincy three sixty

913
00:47:12,520 --> 00:47:17,640
Speaker 3: ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station. Let's dive into the

914
00:47:17,640 --> 00:47:22,279
Speaker 3: college basketball world right now, Austin. Before we get to

915
00:47:22,320 --> 00:47:28,239
Speaker 3: the Cincinnati Bearcats, some local teams also in action over

916
00:47:28,280 --> 00:47:32,400
Speaker 3: the weekend. Let's start in Kentucky, where the University of

917
00:47:32,480 --> 00:47:36,600
Speaker 3: Kentucky Mark Pope squad did get a nice bounce back

918
00:47:36,680 --> 00:47:41,359
Speaker 3: win on Saturday night against Mississippi State. They were able

919
00:47:41,400 --> 00:47:44,960
Speaker 3: to do so at Rupp Arena in pretty convincing fashion.

920
00:47:46,120 --> 00:47:50,560
Speaker 3: They won that game ninety two to sixty eight against

921
00:47:50,560 --> 00:47:54,440
Speaker 3: Mississippi State. It was Kentucky's first SEC win of the season,

922
00:47:55,760 --> 00:48:00,000
Speaker 3: and now Kentucky turns their attention to a Wednesday night

923
00:48:00,200 --> 00:48:04,560
Speaker 3: game on the road at LSU before traveling to Knoxville

924
00:48:04,600 --> 00:48:10,239
Speaker 3: to take on the Tennessee Volunteers this coming Saturday. The

925
00:48:10,320 --> 00:48:14,880
Speaker 3: other team just south of the border the Norse from NKU.

926
00:48:14,960 --> 00:48:19,040
Speaker 3: They had a Friday Sunday weekend. Friday got off to

927
00:48:19,120 --> 00:48:22,040
Speaker 3: a great start on the road. The Norse went to

928
00:48:22,239 --> 00:48:27,000
Speaker 3: Milwaukee and beat Milwaukee by this final score of eighty

929
00:48:27,040 --> 00:48:31,120
Speaker 3: five to sixty seven. A dominant first half put NKU

930
00:48:31,280 --> 00:48:33,120
Speaker 3: in a great spot for the second half, and then

931
00:48:33,239 --> 00:48:38,840
Speaker 3: NKU made the short turnaround. They took on Green Bay

932
00:48:39,719 --> 00:48:43,640
Speaker 3: yesterday in a game where Green Bay led in first

933
00:48:43,680 --> 00:48:45,440
Speaker 3: half and in the second half by as many as

934
00:48:45,560 --> 00:48:49,600
Speaker 3: nineteen points multiple times before NKU got all the way

935
00:48:49,600 --> 00:48:53,120
Speaker 3: back into it, ultimately falling just short with a chance

936
00:48:53,200 --> 00:48:56,440
Speaker 3: to win it and to tie it. At the end

937
00:48:56,480 --> 00:48:59,399
Speaker 3: of the game, NKU falls to green Bay. That's Doug

938
00:48:59,440 --> 00:49:03,839
Speaker 3: Gottlieb's green Bay Phoenix. Austin, he's actually got green Bay

939
00:49:03,840 --> 00:49:05,640
Speaker 3: playing better five and two.

940
00:49:06,000 --> 00:49:09,280
Speaker 5: I noticed that in the horizon above five hundred, which

941
00:49:09,520 --> 00:49:11,520
Speaker 5: just doesn't feel like it happens.

942
00:49:11,280 --> 00:49:13,560
Speaker 4: Very often since he got rid of that radio show

943
00:49:13,560 --> 00:49:14,040
Speaker 4: he was doing.

944
00:49:14,160 --> 00:49:17,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's almost like it's almost like if you put

945
00:49:17,000 --> 00:49:19,839
Speaker 5: all your attention and energy into one thing, it can

946
00:49:19,880 --> 00:49:20,320
Speaker 5: get better.

947
00:49:21,760 --> 00:49:22,239
Speaker 4: How about that?

948
00:49:22,800 --> 00:49:27,320
Speaker 3: A pair of home games this week for NKU. Thursday,

949
00:49:27,680 --> 00:49:31,080
Speaker 3: they're gonna take on Detroit Mercy and then they will

950
00:49:31,120 --> 00:49:35,240
Speaker 3: welcome in Robert Morris over the weekend as well. Another

951
00:49:35,320 --> 00:49:39,440
Speaker 3: team in Kentucky, the Louisville Cardinals, had a successful weekend.

952
00:49:39,520 --> 00:49:42,600
Speaker 3: They beat Boston College at home seventy five sixty two.

953
00:49:43,080 --> 00:49:46,000
Speaker 3: They will get top twenty five Virginia at the Youm

954
00:49:46,080 --> 00:49:50,920
Speaker 3: Center tomorrow. And the Xavier Musketeers Austin, I will I

955
00:49:50,960 --> 00:49:54,440
Speaker 3: will say this, and we've talked about this before. I

956
00:49:54,600 --> 00:49:58,839
Speaker 3: credit Xavier right now because I feel like they are

957
00:49:58,880 --> 00:50:03,000
Speaker 3: getting better when I watch now. They have had some

958
00:50:03,000 --> 00:50:07,960
Speaker 3: some tough losses. They they got blown out by Creighton,

959
00:50:08,360 --> 00:50:11,160
Speaker 3: they got blown out by Yukon, They had a terrible

960
00:50:11,239 --> 00:50:13,799
Speaker 3: road loss to De paul a one point road loss

961
00:50:13,800 --> 00:50:18,600
Speaker 3: to Marquette. But Providence came into town over the weekend

962
00:50:18,760 --> 00:50:24,200
Speaker 3: and Xavier dominated ninety seven eighty four ninety seven points

963
00:50:24,239 --> 00:50:28,319
Speaker 3: for the Xavier Musketeers. Messign A Moore or Messina Moore

964
00:50:28,400 --> 00:50:31,399
Speaker 3: led the way with twenty three for the Xavier Musketeers.

965
00:50:31,680 --> 00:50:33,760
Speaker 3: They are two and four in the Big East. Xavier

966
00:50:33,800 --> 00:50:37,520
Speaker 3: takes on Butler at the Sintas Center on Wednesday. But

967
00:50:37,560 --> 00:50:39,840
Speaker 3: I will say this Austin, and I know it's not

968
00:50:40,000 --> 00:50:42,960
Speaker 3: probably what Xavier fans want to hear. I do feel

969
00:50:42,960 --> 00:50:45,399
Speaker 3: like Xavier is improving as the season goes on. Yeah,

970
00:50:46,040 --> 00:50:49,759
Speaker 3: they're gonna take their lumps, and that has continued. But

971
00:50:49,920 --> 00:50:54,480
Speaker 3: at the same time, there are shining spots for Xavier

972
00:50:54,520 --> 00:50:57,719
Speaker 3: where you think, Okay, Patino's the right guy, and as

973
00:50:57,760 --> 00:50:59,960
Speaker 3: he continues to get more of a grasp on this rock,

974
00:51:01,040 --> 00:51:03,760
Speaker 3: they're going to get better as the years come for

975
00:51:03,760 --> 00:51:05,960
Speaker 3: for Patino and must.

976
00:51:05,840 --> 00:51:07,760
Speaker 5: I think the other thing, too, is with the nature

977
00:51:07,840 --> 00:51:10,680
Speaker 5: of the transfer portal and all the different stuff that

978
00:51:11,440 --> 00:51:14,840
Speaker 5: you know, happens in college basketball. I think it's also

979
00:51:15,480 --> 00:51:18,880
Speaker 5: noteworthy that, like there hasn't been any drama, there haven't

980
00:51:18,880 --> 00:51:22,560
Speaker 5: been any riffs. It feels like that there's a culture

981
00:51:22,600 --> 00:51:26,279
Speaker 5: that's being established at that you know guys, maybe guys

982
00:51:26,320 --> 00:51:28,120
Speaker 5: are gonna leave in the portal. That happens every year,

983
00:51:28,160 --> 00:51:31,640
Speaker 5: but maybe if they feel like, Okay, we are getting better.

984
00:51:31,800 --> 00:51:34,640
Speaker 5: I like playing for this coach, it may not be

985
00:51:34,760 --> 00:51:38,400
Speaker 5: as difficult to keep a team together for Xavier based

986
00:51:38,400 --> 00:51:40,600
Speaker 5: off the way that they are building it with those

987
00:51:40,640 --> 00:51:42,640
Speaker 5: types of players, And I think that can be really

988
00:51:42,680 --> 00:51:47,240
Speaker 5: important because like I worry about, Okay, yeah, team's playing

989
00:51:47,280 --> 00:51:51,000
Speaker 5: really well and is all that moment, I'm going to

990
00:51:51,000 --> 00:51:52,920
Speaker 5: get lost once we get to the end of the

991
00:51:52,920 --> 00:51:56,000
Speaker 5: season and guys go into the transfer portal. But if

992
00:51:56,040 --> 00:51:58,160
Speaker 5: you keep building it the way it appears Xavier is

993
00:51:58,160 --> 00:52:00,520
Speaker 5: building it, maybe that's less like to happen.

994
00:52:00,560 --> 00:52:03,759
Speaker 3: I don't know, Yeah it is. I think a good

995
00:52:03,800 --> 00:52:06,840
Speaker 3: step forward for the Xavier Musketeers. Let's talk about the

996
00:52:06,840 --> 00:52:08,960
Speaker 3: other side of this, Austin, and that is what happened

997
00:52:09,040 --> 00:52:12,799
Speaker 3: yesterday at five o'clock, the Cincinnati Bearcats tip off at

998
00:52:12,880 --> 00:52:18,440
Speaker 3: number twenty five ranked UCF and the Bearcats again come

999
00:52:18,520 --> 00:52:21,280
Speaker 3: up short, and they come up short in a fashion

1000
00:52:21,760 --> 00:52:25,120
Speaker 3: in which we have seen more often than not with

1001
00:52:25,200 --> 00:52:29,239
Speaker 3: this uc basketball program in the last five years. They

1002
00:52:29,320 --> 00:52:33,960
Speaker 3: now have three consecutive Big Twelve losses to start their

1003
00:52:34,000 --> 00:52:38,200
Speaker 3: Big Twelve slate by a combined ten points. The Houston

1004
00:52:38,239 --> 00:52:40,600
Speaker 3: game was tied sixty to sixty. Down the stretch, the

1005
00:52:40,600 --> 00:52:43,280
Speaker 3: Bearcats failed to score. They lose sixty seven to sixty.

1006
00:52:43,640 --> 00:52:46,040
Speaker 3: They had a five point lead at the under four

1007
00:52:46,080 --> 00:52:49,759
Speaker 3: minute mark against West Virginia proceeded to lose sixty two

1008
00:52:49,760 --> 00:52:53,239
Speaker 3: to sixty. And last night the game was tied at

1009
00:52:53,239 --> 00:52:55,600
Speaker 3: the under eight. The game was back and forth at

1010
00:52:55,600 --> 00:53:01,279
Speaker 3: the under four, and ultimately it was UF making the

1011
00:53:01,280 --> 00:53:05,680
Speaker 3: big shot and the Bearcats not. The Bearcats actually held

1012
00:53:05,680 --> 00:53:10,160
Speaker 3: a lead before themis Folks hit a jump shot with

1013
00:53:10,239 --> 00:53:13,960
Speaker 3: eleven seconds left to give UCF the lead. Folks, by

1014
00:53:14,000 --> 00:53:17,560
Speaker 3: the way, in the game yesterday, he was good offensively,

1015
00:53:17,719 --> 00:53:20,839
Speaker 3: He was great as a facilitator. He scored just six

1016
00:53:20,880 --> 00:53:25,160
Speaker 3: points but dished out twelve assist for the UCF Knights.

1017
00:53:26,840 --> 00:53:30,959
Speaker 3: The Bearcats get an opportunity again eleven seconds left down one.

1018
00:53:31,800 --> 00:53:35,719
Speaker 3: They get nothing going to the basket, and I think

1019
00:53:35,719 --> 00:53:40,400
Speaker 3: if you just put the end of game situation in

1020
00:53:40,480 --> 00:53:43,879
Speaker 3: a bubble. Austin, I think you'll see the difference right

1021
00:53:43,920 --> 00:53:47,600
Speaker 3: now of what's plaguing the Bearcats. UCF down one coming

1022
00:53:47,640 --> 00:53:49,719
Speaker 3: out of a timeout, gets to the middle of the

1023
00:53:49,800 --> 00:53:53,040
Speaker 3: defense that get inside the paint and they hit an

1024
00:53:53,040 --> 00:53:57,120
Speaker 3: easy shot. Uc has to settle for a fallaway Jalen

1025
00:53:57,160 --> 00:54:02,120
Speaker 3: Celestine three, and it was halfway down before it bounced out.

1026
00:54:02,200 --> 00:54:05,120
Speaker 3: But to me, that's not the case. To me, it's

1027
00:54:05,160 --> 00:54:08,480
Speaker 3: the bigger issue of what's plaguing the Cincinnati Bearcats right now.

1028
00:54:08,920 --> 00:54:11,439
Speaker 3: Look at the game yesterday. Look at the box score

1029
00:54:11,480 --> 00:54:14,560
Speaker 3: from yesterday. You see Austin did not attempt a free

1030
00:54:14,560 --> 00:54:18,440
Speaker 3: throw in the first half. They attempted just eight in

1031
00:54:18,520 --> 00:54:20,960
Speaker 3: the game. They don't get to the basket, they don't

1032
00:54:20,960 --> 00:54:25,480
Speaker 3: apply pressure at the basket. That's a problem. They shot

1033
00:54:25,520 --> 00:54:29,120
Speaker 3: forty eight percent from the field, just sixteen percent from three.

1034
00:54:29,520 --> 00:54:32,040
Speaker 3: But yesterday it was the defense that gave up fifty

1035
00:54:32,080 --> 00:54:36,440
Speaker 3: eight percent. Makes for UCF forty three percent for the

1036
00:54:36,520 --> 00:54:40,080
Speaker 3: nights beyond the arc. It's just the latest in a

1037
00:54:40,120 --> 00:54:44,080
Speaker 3: long line of backbreaking losses for the Bearcats in a

1038
00:54:44,120 --> 00:54:47,520
Speaker 3: game where if you look at the final box score,

1039
00:54:47,719 --> 00:54:51,080
Speaker 3: you see one in a lot of statistical categories. Points

1040
00:54:51,080 --> 00:54:53,960
Speaker 3: in the paint were pretty much even. You See had

1041
00:54:54,040 --> 00:54:58,440
Speaker 3: thirteen more fast break points and UCF fourteen turnovers to

1042
00:54:58,520 --> 00:55:04,040
Speaker 3: u See's just seven, nine steals to one for the Bearcats,

1043
00:55:05,160 --> 00:55:09,680
Speaker 3: and they still end up on the wrong side of

1044
00:55:09,719 --> 00:55:13,480
Speaker 3: the scoreboard. Mustapha Chom, the UCF transfer, had a career

1045
00:55:13,600 --> 00:55:17,280
Speaker 3: day career high twenty four points for the Cincinnati Bearcats

1046
00:55:17,280 --> 00:55:20,279
Speaker 3: on ten to fifteen shooting. Here's what I would have liked.

1047
00:55:20,760 --> 00:55:23,080
Speaker 3: I would have liked something in the final eleven seconds

1048
00:55:23,120 --> 00:55:25,480
Speaker 3: where you get Gisel James or Dayde Thomas to the

1049
00:55:25,600 --> 00:55:27,919
Speaker 3: rim and all you got to do. You don't even

1050
00:55:27,920 --> 00:55:30,239
Speaker 3: have to make it, but so much attention would come

1051
00:55:30,280 --> 00:55:32,320
Speaker 3: there that you could put the ball off the backboard

1052
00:55:32,360 --> 00:55:34,880
Speaker 3: and if it's not in, you've got a great chance

1053
00:55:34,960 --> 00:55:38,839
Speaker 3: with size, with Boba Miller and Mustapha cham to get

1054
00:55:38,880 --> 00:55:42,000
Speaker 3: an easy put back and win the game, not settling

1055
00:55:42,040 --> 00:55:46,319
Speaker 3: for a fallaway three. As the time expires, a backbreaking

1056
00:55:46,360 --> 00:55:49,719
Speaker 3: loss for the Bearcats, will talk more about what it

1057
00:55:49,760 --> 00:55:52,640
Speaker 3: means going forward, but for now, do we have a

1058
00:55:52,640 --> 00:55:54,719
Speaker 3: few minutes of Wes Miller with Dan Horden and Terry

1059
00:55:54,719 --> 00:55:56,759
Speaker 3: Nelson after last night's loss, What.

1060
00:55:56,760 --> 00:55:58,879
Speaker 4: Were your thoughts on the last few minutes of this game.

1061
00:56:00,080 --> 00:56:02,279
Speaker 16: I was a great bat It's a great college basketball game.

1062
00:56:03,400 --> 00:56:07,040
Speaker 16: I thought both teams made plays. You know, we've I

1063
00:56:07,080 --> 00:56:09,000
Speaker 16: think in the last four minutes of the last couple

1064
00:56:09,000 --> 00:56:11,920
Speaker 16: of games, the other teams made more plays than us.

1065
00:56:11,960 --> 00:56:14,360
Speaker 16: I thought tonight, both teams made big time plays and

1066
00:56:14,840 --> 00:56:16,279
Speaker 16: it was just going to kind of be who had

1067
00:56:16,280 --> 00:56:18,960
Speaker 16: the made the last one.

1068
00:56:19,280 --> 00:56:21,319
Speaker 4: I hate, I hate that we did, and.

1069
00:56:21,320 --> 00:56:23,880
Speaker 16: Guys, and and we're just so hurt for our players.

1070
00:56:24,120 --> 00:56:25,560
Speaker 6: I just I.

1071
00:56:27,400 --> 00:56:28,799
Speaker 5: You know, the truth is is.

1072
00:56:28,760 --> 00:56:35,759
Speaker 16: That proud of them. You know, you can see other

1073
00:56:35,840 --> 00:56:39,359
Speaker 16: than the result, which is extremely frustrating. You can see

1074
00:56:39,360 --> 00:56:43,200
Speaker 16: the improvement, right, you can like, you can see consistent improvement,

1075
00:56:43,960 --> 00:56:46,200
Speaker 16: uh from game to game in the areas that have

1076
00:56:46,200 --> 00:56:48,839
Speaker 16: been holding us back. And I want you want so bad.

1077
00:56:48,880 --> 00:56:51,040
Speaker 16: I think people have children out there understand this. When

1078
00:56:51,080 --> 00:56:52,799
Speaker 16: they do what you ask and they do it right,

1079
00:56:52,880 --> 00:56:55,279
Speaker 16: you want them to get the reward. And I hurt

1080
00:56:55,320 --> 00:56:57,399
Speaker 16: so bad that they didn't get the reward the last

1081
00:56:57,440 --> 00:57:00,440
Speaker 16: couple of games, especially tonight, So that's where the pain

1082
00:57:00,840 --> 00:57:06,160
Speaker 16: comes from. But the truth is, we just got to

1083
00:57:06,280 --> 00:57:09,520
Speaker 16: stay together and keep going. Man, that's it. Like it

1084
00:57:09,640 --> 00:57:13,240
Speaker 16: sounds cliche, but it's the only we're on the right track.

1085
00:57:13,400 --> 00:57:16,680
Speaker 16: We have a good basketball club. I hate for our

1086
00:57:16,720 --> 00:57:20,360
Speaker 16: fans and for our players and the people that care

1087
00:57:20,400 --> 00:57:22,880
Speaker 16: about us. I hate that we haven't got the results

1088
00:57:22,880 --> 00:57:24,920
Speaker 16: because you just feel like we're I feel like we're

1089
00:57:24,960 --> 00:57:26,720
Speaker 16: one of the better teams in college basketball. I think

1090
00:57:26,720 --> 00:57:29,240
Speaker 16: we can play with anybody and beat anybody, and we

1091
00:57:29,280 --> 00:57:32,200
Speaker 16: haven't gotten results. So I hate that. But stay together,

1092
00:57:32,320 --> 00:57:36,240
Speaker 16: keep going. That's the only choice if you're a real

1093
00:57:36,320 --> 00:57:41,320
Speaker 16: competitor and you have real genuine character, and we have

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00:57:41,400 --> 00:57:42,240
Speaker 16: that in the locker room.

1095
00:57:42,320 --> 00:57:43,000
Speaker 4: So we'll do that.

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00:57:43,920 --> 00:57:46,160
Speaker 17: You know, three of nineteen from three, So the three

1097
00:57:46,720 --> 00:57:50,560
Speaker 17: ball wasn't working. But let's stop a Chim really really

1098
00:57:50,600 --> 00:57:53,240
Speaker 17: wanted the ball today, much like the second half of

1099
00:57:53,280 --> 00:57:56,120
Speaker 17: the Clemson game. He was calling for the ball, and

1100
00:57:56,200 --> 00:57:58,720
Speaker 17: he was visibly upset when guys would look and they

1101
00:57:58,720 --> 00:58:00,880
Speaker 17: couldn't get him the ball. He would clap his hands

1102
00:58:00,880 --> 00:58:02,960
Speaker 17: and he would repulse and he would catch it and

1103
00:58:03,000 --> 00:58:04,080
Speaker 17: he was very efficient.

1104
00:58:04,680 --> 00:58:06,000
Speaker 4: Download what did you see.

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00:58:06,120 --> 00:58:08,160
Speaker 17: Obviously you're trying to get him the ball, you're trying

1106
00:58:08,160 --> 00:58:10,360
Speaker 17: to call plays for him. But I thought he made

1107
00:58:10,360 --> 00:58:12,880
Speaker 17: the extra effort to tell his teammates, I want the

1108
00:58:12,880 --> 00:58:14,240
Speaker 17: ball today.

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00:58:14,440 --> 00:58:14,640
Speaker 6: Yeah.

1110
00:58:14,760 --> 00:58:17,440
Speaker 16: I thought him and Baba were terrific on the interior tonight,

1111
00:58:18,480 --> 00:58:20,600
Speaker 16: and you know, we got back to scoring from two

1112
00:58:20,720 --> 00:58:24,280
Speaker 16: and getting fouled a little more. That's so important for

1113
00:58:24,320 --> 00:58:26,680
Speaker 16: our team. It'll come together one night where it all works,

1114
00:58:26,720 --> 00:58:29,120
Speaker 16: where we shoot it well and you know, we score

1115
00:58:29,200 --> 00:58:31,680
Speaker 16: down there and converted like Boba's play to put us

1116
00:58:31,720 --> 00:58:33,760
Speaker 16: up one. It's a big time basketball play. It's a

1117
00:58:33,760 --> 00:58:35,800
Speaker 16: big time move. And he made plays like that all game.

1118
00:58:36,320 --> 00:58:38,520
Speaker 16: The foul trouble hurt with him and Day Day. You know,

1119
00:58:38,560 --> 00:58:41,480
Speaker 16: I thought we really kind of had something and then

1120
00:58:41,560 --> 00:58:44,320
Speaker 16: those guys getting those fouls troll. That hurt, and you know,

1121
00:58:44,440 --> 00:58:48,240
Speaker 16: I again, I don't complain about the officiating more on

1122
00:58:48,280 --> 00:58:49,560
Speaker 16: the road and for that type of thing, but a

1123
00:58:49,560 --> 00:58:52,240
Speaker 16: couple of the calls were tough calls. I'm not saying

1124
00:58:52,240 --> 00:58:55,760
Speaker 16: they were the wrong calls, but they're tough calls. Boba's

1125
00:58:56,000 --> 00:58:59,120
Speaker 16: fourth day, Day's fourth. Those are tough calls. And you're

1126
00:58:59,160 --> 00:59:02,200
Speaker 16: in defensives where you're in charge of the possession, like

1127
00:59:02,240 --> 00:59:05,080
Speaker 16: we had a double coming for Day Day and the

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00:59:05,120 --> 00:59:06,880
Speaker 16: post and the deep corner, and I thought he did

1129
00:59:06,920 --> 00:59:09,560
Speaker 16: what we teach, and Bob on the drive, I thought

1130
00:59:09,560 --> 00:59:12,160
Speaker 16: he got to a legal guarding position and did what

1131
00:59:12,160 --> 00:59:15,720
Speaker 16: we teach. And I'm not, you know, getting on the

1132
00:59:15,760 --> 00:59:18,480
Speaker 16: officials like they did it wrong. I just think those

1133
00:59:18,520 --> 00:59:20,560
Speaker 16: are tough calls, and those are the kind that can

1134
00:59:20,600 --> 00:59:22,480
Speaker 16: go either way, and you wish they kind of didn't

1135
00:59:22,600 --> 00:59:26,680
Speaker 16: because not just the plays and the points. It makes

1136
00:59:26,760 --> 00:59:28,240
Speaker 16: us have to get those guys out of the game.

1137
00:59:28,280 --> 00:59:30,440
Speaker 16: And I thought we really had something with a little

1138
00:59:30,440 --> 00:59:33,200
Speaker 16: bit of the combinations we were playing tonight.

1139
00:59:34,000 --> 00:59:36,240
Speaker 4: Okay, so.

1140
00:59:37,760 --> 00:59:42,680
Speaker 3: Austin, I think we've reached the point where there are

1141
00:59:42,720 --> 00:59:46,760
Speaker 3: no more moral victories here. Like you know what, I

1142
00:59:47,320 --> 00:59:51,600
Speaker 3: do think that they're improving, but guess what, no one

1143
00:59:51,680 --> 00:59:53,840
Speaker 3: cares about the improvement when you don't have a win

1144
00:59:53,920 --> 00:59:56,240
Speaker 3: to show for it in the Big Twelve. That's just

1145
00:59:56,240 --> 01:00:01,040
Speaker 3: what the matter is. And I'm sorry, but at eight

1146
01:00:01,040 --> 01:00:03,280
Speaker 3: and eight and oh to three in the Big twelve.

1147
01:00:03,640 --> 01:00:05,400
Speaker 3: And I know you laughed when he said at Austin,

1148
01:00:05,960 --> 01:00:07,600
Speaker 3: you can't come out in the post game and say

1149
01:00:07,600 --> 01:00:09,480
Speaker 3: that you're one of the best teams in college basketball.

1150
01:00:10,360 --> 01:00:13,000
Speaker 3: Because I watch a lot of college basketball, and there

1151
01:00:13,080 --> 01:00:16,600
Speaker 3: is a significant difference in the level that you see

1152
01:00:16,640 --> 01:00:18,439
Speaker 3: when you see is playing right now, in the level

1153
01:00:18,440 --> 01:00:24,600
Speaker 3: of other top teams in the country. Now, this part

1154
01:00:24,680 --> 01:00:28,600
Speaker 3: is difficult for me because I've mentioned before on air

1155
01:00:29,720 --> 01:00:33,680
Speaker 3: that I think Wes Miller is a great person. I

1156
01:00:34,000 --> 01:00:37,880
Speaker 3: would say he's been a friend, He's been helpful to me,

1157
01:00:38,400 --> 01:00:42,360
Speaker 3: he has reached out in difficult times. But at the

1158
01:00:42,360 --> 01:00:45,480
Speaker 3: same time, there are just things that he says that

1159
01:00:45,560 --> 01:00:50,280
Speaker 3: I just don't feel like resignate anymore with UC basketball fans.

1160
01:00:50,800 --> 01:00:51,160
Speaker 4: Now.

1161
01:00:52,080 --> 01:00:55,040
Speaker 3: To his credit, and this also goes into one of

1162
01:00:55,040 --> 01:01:00,560
Speaker 3: my biggest worries, this team is playing hard. I remember

1163
01:01:00,680 --> 01:01:03,480
Speaker 3: coming on air last year often after one of the

1164
01:01:03,560 --> 01:01:08,840
Speaker 3: UC losses and being very critical because I thought the

1165
01:01:08,880 --> 01:01:12,360
Speaker 3: team had given up, that they weren't playing hard, that

1166
01:01:12,400 --> 01:01:15,040
Speaker 3: they rolled over. And that has been the calling card

1167
01:01:15,040 --> 01:01:17,880
Speaker 3: of UC basketball my whole life. Guys will miss shots,

1168
01:01:18,480 --> 01:01:22,959
Speaker 3: guys will make mistakes, but you play hard. I get

1169
01:01:23,000 --> 01:01:25,640
Speaker 3: frustrated at times this year when Wes Miller has pulled

1170
01:01:25,640 --> 01:01:27,280
Speaker 3: that out in a post game of our guys are

1171
01:01:27,280 --> 01:01:30,000
Speaker 3: playing really hard, because I think we've entered now this

1172
01:01:30,160 --> 01:01:33,320
Speaker 3: area where that feels like it should be celebrated.

1173
01:01:34,200 --> 01:01:34,920
Speaker 4: It shouldn't.

1174
01:01:35,880 --> 01:01:39,000
Speaker 3: You shouldn't have to talk in a postgame about effort

1175
01:01:40,160 --> 01:01:43,000
Speaker 3: that should be built in. But at the same time,

1176
01:01:44,040 --> 01:01:47,439
Speaker 3: and I say this from a unique perspective because I've

1177
01:01:47,640 --> 01:01:51,600
Speaker 3: been a collegiate athlete, there is nothing you want more

1178
01:01:52,000 --> 01:01:55,640
Speaker 3: as a college athlete than to win. And it is

1179
01:01:55,880 --> 01:02:01,200
Speaker 3: backbreaking to lose. It's even more so hurt to lose

1180
01:02:01,240 --> 01:02:03,720
Speaker 3: the way this team has continued to lose. It's hard

1181
01:02:04,120 --> 01:02:07,240
Speaker 3: to go back to work. And maybe in today's world,

1182
01:02:07,280 --> 01:02:09,520
Speaker 3: the amount of money these kids are making, maybe it's

1183
01:02:09,520 --> 01:02:11,960
Speaker 3: a little easier to get back to work. Maybe it's

1184
01:02:12,000 --> 01:02:14,240
Speaker 3: a little easier to go to sleep at night because

1185
01:02:14,280 --> 01:02:18,480
Speaker 3: you're making some significant life changing money. But I am

1186
01:02:18,520 --> 01:02:24,720
Speaker 3: seeing now people calling for fans to wear paper bags

1187
01:02:25,480 --> 01:02:30,960
Speaker 3: on Wednesday Night. I'm just not there. I will always

1188
01:02:31,440 --> 01:02:33,960
Speaker 3: and maybe I'm sick for it. I'm always going to

1189
01:02:34,000 --> 01:02:36,320
Speaker 3: go to the games. I'm always going to root for

1190
01:02:36,320 --> 01:02:40,760
Speaker 3: the Cincinnati Bearcats, regardless of who's coaching, who's playing, because

1191
01:02:40,760 --> 01:02:43,040
Speaker 3: I am a fan of UC Athletics and I want

1192
01:02:43,080 --> 01:02:46,400
Speaker 3: the team to win when I watch them. So I'll

1193
01:02:46,480 --> 01:02:50,200
Speaker 3: go down Wednesday, I'll watch them against Colorado. I'm not

1194
01:02:50,320 --> 01:02:55,760
Speaker 3: taking a paper bag. I'm not telling people what to do.

1195
01:02:56,240 --> 01:02:59,000
Speaker 3: I wouldn't do it because that sends the wrong message

1196
01:02:59,000 --> 01:03:02,080
Speaker 3: to the team. I was at the last home game

1197
01:03:02,080 --> 01:03:05,200
Speaker 3: against Houston. Trust me, you don't need to wear paper

1198
01:03:05,200 --> 01:03:10,560
Speaker 3: bags for Wes Miller to know how disinterested or upset

1199
01:03:10,640 --> 01:03:13,600
Speaker 3: the fan basis. John Cunningham doesn't need to see paper

1200
01:03:13,600 --> 01:03:17,080
Speaker 3: bags to know when Wes Miller is announced pregame and

1201
01:03:17,160 --> 01:03:20,160
Speaker 3: the booze that filled out arena, the message is already set.

1202
01:03:21,080 --> 01:03:23,720
Speaker 3: So I stopped short of I'm gonna cut the paper

1203
01:03:23,720 --> 01:03:26,160
Speaker 3: bag up, I'm gonna head down to the arena. That's

1204
01:03:26,200 --> 01:03:28,880
Speaker 3: the wrong message. The kids don't deserve that because they

1205
01:03:28,880 --> 01:03:32,840
Speaker 3: are playing hard. Had they shown no effort or if

1206
01:03:32,840 --> 01:03:34,480
Speaker 3: it gets to a point this year, and it very

1207
01:03:34,480 --> 01:03:38,560
Speaker 3: well could, listen, Colorado took Texas Tech to the brink

1208
01:03:38,720 --> 01:03:42,880
Speaker 3: over the weekend and they have two big twelve wins.

1209
01:03:43,560 --> 01:03:48,800
Speaker 3: All right, so Colorado is not a pushover Colorado again.

1210
01:03:49,360 --> 01:03:52,040
Speaker 3: Texas Tech seventy three to seventy one. They beat Utah

1211
01:03:52,120 --> 01:03:54,760
Speaker 3: by double digits. They beat Arizona State on the road.

1212
01:03:54,760 --> 01:03:59,640
Speaker 3: They're two to one after Colorado. On Wednesday, number three

1213
01:03:59,720 --> 01:04:02,480
Speaker 3: ranked Iowa State comes to fifth third, and then the

1214
01:04:02,520 --> 01:04:06,360
Speaker 3: following Wednesday they go to number one Arizona UC still

1215
01:04:06,360 --> 01:04:11,480
Speaker 3: has games on their schedule this season. This season already

1216
01:04:11,960 --> 01:04:15,479
Speaker 3: against number nine BYU, number fourteen Texas Tech. They play

1217
01:04:15,480 --> 01:04:19,160
Speaker 3: at Kansas, they play number seven Houston. Again, it's not

1218
01:04:19,200 --> 01:04:23,640
Speaker 3: going to get any easier. I credit them for playing hard.

1219
01:04:25,040 --> 01:04:28,080
Speaker 3: Does that take away from the fact that the coaching

1220
01:04:28,120 --> 01:04:29,479
Speaker 3: down the stretch is not good enough?

1221
01:04:29,600 --> 01:04:29,680
Speaker 18: No?

1222
01:04:30,680 --> 01:04:32,560
Speaker 3: And I hate to say that because I do like Wes,

1223
01:04:34,000 --> 01:04:37,640
Speaker 3: but there's a significant difference in the last four minutes

1224
01:04:37,640 --> 01:04:41,120
Speaker 3: of games where the other team is getting easier looks,

1225
01:04:41,640 --> 01:04:44,680
Speaker 3: the other team is making plays when given the opportunity,

1226
01:04:44,760 --> 01:04:49,000
Speaker 3: and they're being put in more advantageous situations. Again, I'm

1227
01:04:49,000 --> 01:04:50,720
Speaker 3: not telling you what to do or not to do

1228
01:04:50,760 --> 01:04:53,000
Speaker 3: when you go to a game, but I'm going to

1229
01:04:53,000 --> 01:04:56,400
Speaker 3: stop short of wearing a paper bag because I don't

1230
01:04:56,400 --> 01:04:58,080
Speaker 3: think it's fair to the team that is continuing to

1231
01:04:58,080 --> 01:04:58,960
Speaker 3: play hard.

1232
01:05:00,040 --> 01:05:02,320
Speaker 5: I think the point that you make about like the

1233
01:05:02,360 --> 01:05:05,760
Speaker 5: whole playing hard thing. I saw Lance talking about this too,

1234
01:05:05,800 --> 01:05:09,280
Speaker 5: and I agree with him, is like that that's that's

1235
01:05:09,320 --> 01:05:13,240
Speaker 5: supposed to be built in, Like every team is supposed

1236
01:05:13,280 --> 01:05:17,600
Speaker 5: to play hard. That's the very like that's a prerequisite

1237
01:05:17,960 --> 01:05:21,840
Speaker 5: to being on the team, and it's becoming a talking

1238
01:05:21,880 --> 01:05:25,560
Speaker 5: point in basically every single locker room in this town

1239
01:05:26,120 --> 01:05:28,560
Speaker 5: of like, oh, they play really hard. Well, no crap,

1240
01:05:28,720 --> 01:05:33,120
Speaker 5: of course they they're professionals, or they're basically they're all

1241
01:05:33,120 --> 01:05:36,400
Speaker 5: professionals these days. Like, of course they play hard. That's like,

1242
01:05:36,680 --> 01:05:39,680
Speaker 5: you don't get to this level without playing hard. And

1243
01:05:40,040 --> 01:05:41,600
Speaker 5: I do think that's a bit of a crutch for

1244
01:05:41,640 --> 01:05:44,840
Speaker 5: maybe sometimes when you don't have anything else nice to say.

1245
01:05:46,680 --> 01:05:48,959
Speaker 5: But yeah, I mean, like the comment after the game

1246
01:05:49,000 --> 01:05:51,400
Speaker 5: about we're one of the best in college football or

1247
01:05:51,440 --> 01:05:55,960
Speaker 5: college basketball and blah blah Blah's just yeah, it doesn't

1248
01:05:56,000 --> 01:05:59,120
Speaker 5: translate very well. And I understand the frustration of the fans.

1249
01:05:59,200 --> 01:05:59,600
Speaker 4: Correct.

1250
01:06:00,880 --> 01:06:04,000
Speaker 3: Uh, let's take a break. Let's come back your talkbacks

1251
01:06:04,320 --> 01:06:07,120
Speaker 3: the Monday edition since he three to sixty on ESPN

1252
01:06:07,160 --> 01:06:08,760
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1257
01:06:26,480 --> 01:06:28,160
Speaker 4: It's that time for talkbacks.

1258
01:06:28,480 --> 01:06:33,400
Speaker 20: Press the microphone and record your message for Austin and Tone.

1259
01:06:33,440 --> 01:06:37,800
Speaker 5: Please keep it clean and don't be mean and a.

1260
01:06:37,760 --> 01:06:39,880
Speaker 18: Sprinkle sprinkle, drip drips.

1261
01:06:40,400 --> 01:06:44,520
Speaker 20: It's that time for talkbacks. It's our favorite parter Sincy

1262
01:06:44,840 --> 01:06:50,520
Speaker 20: three sixty. So Austin, buddy, play those talkbacks on your

1263
01:06:50,560 --> 01:06:52,800
Speaker 20: screen and please drive out to Cybotage.

1264
01:06:53,200 --> 01:06:55,840
Speaker 3: All right, here we go the Monday edition. It's different.

1265
01:06:55,880 --> 01:06:58,640
Speaker 3: It's a little depressing today, Austin. This is the first

1266
01:06:58,680 --> 01:07:01,160
Speaker 3: Monday in quite some time where not Tonian Mo Football

1267
01:07:01,160 --> 01:07:05,520
Speaker 3: Show football season at least here is officially reached the

1268
01:07:05,560 --> 01:07:07,920
Speaker 3: off season mark. And while the off season brings a

1269
01:07:08,000 --> 01:07:12,520
Speaker 3: ton for this franchise, it is a little different not

1270
01:07:12,680 --> 01:07:15,880
Speaker 3: having that the Tony and Most Show, or not having

1271
01:07:16,080 --> 01:07:21,160
Speaker 3: more Bengals to talk about. Hopefully things get rectified. Hopefully

1272
01:07:21,160 --> 01:07:23,040
Speaker 3: this is the last year for quite some time that

1273
01:07:23,040 --> 01:07:26,240
Speaker 3: we're not talking about a playoff win or a playoff game,

1274
01:07:26,320 --> 01:07:28,920
Speaker 3: or heck even a first round by for the Cincinnati

1275
01:07:28,960 --> 01:07:31,200
Speaker 3: Bengals and who they're gonna get ready to play this

1276
01:07:31,360 --> 01:07:34,600
Speaker 3: upcoming week. That's the goal ahead. But for now, here's

1277
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Speaker 3: our Monday talkbacks.

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Speaker 8: Rip to Bob Weir, thank you for the countless hours

1279
01:07:39,640 --> 01:07:43,920
Speaker 8: of entertainments through the decades, Rip Legend, and also rip

1280
01:07:44,160 --> 01:07:48,160
Speaker 8: to any comparison of Justin Herbert to Joe Burrow past

1281
01:07:48,400 --> 01:07:49,560
Speaker 8: present or future.

1282
01:07:50,000 --> 01:07:51,560
Speaker 4: Ever again, you have.

1283
01:07:51,640 --> 01:07:55,120
Speaker 5: Seen some people roughing up Justin Herbert a little bit. Yeah,

1284
01:07:55,160 --> 01:07:57,960
Speaker 5: I don't know that it was entirely his fault, but

1285
01:07:58,720 --> 01:08:01,240
Speaker 5: you know, that's the life of the NFL quarterback.

1286
01:08:01,320 --> 01:08:03,800
Speaker 3: I believe Bob Weir, who passed away, was a member

1287
01:08:04,440 --> 01:08:05,919
Speaker 3: founding member of the Grateful Dead.

1288
01:08:06,120 --> 01:08:06,720
Speaker 4: That's correct.

1289
01:08:06,760 --> 01:08:10,040
Speaker 5: Yeah, he he had cancer but did not tell anyone

1290
01:08:10,240 --> 01:08:12,400
Speaker 5: that he was. He had been battling cancer and I

1291
01:08:12,480 --> 01:08:15,200
Speaker 5: think he I heard them talking about this on Clinton

1292
01:08:15,280 --> 01:08:17,519
Speaker 5: Friends this morning. I think he was like the youngest

1293
01:08:17,800 --> 01:08:21,160
Speaker 5: of the people at the in the group. So that's

1294
01:08:21,200 --> 01:08:22,759
Speaker 5: a that's a tough one for a lot of Grateful

1295
01:08:22,760 --> 01:08:25,800
Speaker 5: Dead fans who have one of the biggest and most

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01:08:25,840 --> 01:08:28,639
Speaker 5: loyal fan bases I had ever seen.

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01:08:28,720 --> 01:08:29,640
Speaker 4: You have deadheads.

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01:08:30,880 --> 01:08:37,679
Speaker 9: James Madison, Bloomington still undefeated, ranked number one, one game

1299
01:08:37,800 --> 01:08:39,760
Speaker 9: left for the National Championship.

1300
01:08:40,320 --> 01:08:44,120
Speaker 6: Hicks versus the Convicts.

1301
01:08:43,560 --> 01:08:45,519
Speaker 4: Oh, craig them up.

1302
01:08:45,720 --> 01:08:48,160
Speaker 5: Hicks versus Convicts. Unbelievable.

1303
01:08:49,640 --> 01:08:51,280
Speaker 14: Hey, Fellows, it's Bank County.

1304
01:08:51,800 --> 01:08:54,360
Speaker 4: I must spit out my diet Mountain dew. On Friday

1305
01:08:54,360 --> 01:08:56,880
Speaker 4: when called you out, I thought that was.

1306
01:08:56,880 --> 01:08:59,519
Speaker 21: Awful rich from a guy that could be found every

1307
01:08:59,560 --> 01:09:00,320
Speaker 21: morning ski.

1308
01:09:04,360 --> 01:09:11,960
Speaker 6: Bagel and chasing it down with Kiff Tony apology. What's

1309
01:09:12,040 --> 01:09:13,320
Speaker 6: up with all this Josh.

1310
01:09:13,040 --> 01:09:14,320
Speaker 22: Allen love from locals?

1311
01:09:14,320 --> 01:09:16,400
Speaker 23: Man, I don't want that guy winning the Super Bowl

1312
01:09:16,840 --> 01:09:17,840
Speaker 23: for Joey.

1313
01:09:17,560 --> 01:09:20,760
Speaker 4: B me neither me neither. I'm with you, Vinny.

1314
01:09:20,840 --> 01:09:23,160
Speaker 5: Vinnie is a he's a little bit incorrect.

1315
01:09:23,520 --> 01:09:24,720
Speaker 4: Are you drinking code Red?

1316
01:09:24,800 --> 01:09:25,000
Speaker 10: Now?

1317
01:09:25,160 --> 01:09:25,400
Speaker 4: No?

1318
01:09:25,640 --> 01:09:28,599
Speaker 5: I have not had a Code Red in probably fifteen years,

1319
01:09:29,960 --> 01:09:34,600
Speaker 5: but yeah, I see Vinnie sometimes down there at Skips.

1320
01:09:34,640 --> 01:09:38,960
Speaker 20: Hello, this is former President Ronald Reagan. And well, for

1321
01:09:39,160 --> 01:09:43,200
Speaker 20: the love of Dolly Madison, can we please finally put

1322
01:09:43,240 --> 01:09:47,360
Speaker 20: to bed this national media love affair with Justin Herbert.

1323
01:09:48,120 --> 01:09:51,080
Speaker 20: I mean, at least until he wins more playoff games

1324
01:09:51,120 --> 01:09:56,320
Speaker 20: than Tim Couch, David Klingler or William Howard taft.

1325
01:09:57,160 --> 01:10:01,720
Speaker 5: Oh boy, all right, Justin Herbert is Maybe we did not,

1326
01:10:02,800 --> 01:10:07,439
Speaker 5: Maybe we missed. Yeah, did we just totally miss that?

1327
01:10:07,479 --> 01:10:09,639
Speaker 5: This is the thing Bengals fans care about the most

1328
01:10:09,640 --> 01:10:10,880
Speaker 5: today is Justin Herbert.

1329
01:10:12,320 --> 01:10:13,920
Speaker 4: Hey, guys, happy Monday.

1330
01:10:14,479 --> 01:10:17,719
Speaker 24: So, if I'm not mistaken, if I heard you correctly,

1331
01:10:17,880 --> 01:10:20,639
Speaker 24: this Friday, at the end of this week is the

1332
01:10:20,920 --> 01:10:25,160
Speaker 24: Duke Tobin talks to the media event, and what I

1333
01:10:25,160 --> 01:10:28,880
Speaker 24: would like to hear from Duke is how does he

1334
01:10:28,920 --> 01:10:32,559
Speaker 24: feel about Joe Flacco, our backup quarterback. If nothing else,

1335
01:10:32,640 --> 01:10:35,920
Speaker 24: I want to hear Duke Tobin talk about Joe Flacco. Now,

1336
01:10:35,960 --> 01:10:38,280
Speaker 24: with the time I have remaining, I'd like to talk

1337
01:10:38,320 --> 01:10:40,439
Speaker 24: about life insurance. Friends.

1338
01:10:40,439 --> 01:10:41,840
Speaker 4: You never know when the grim reach.

1339
01:10:43,640 --> 01:10:45,840
Speaker 3: I think our guy just had his dates mixed up.

1340
01:10:45,880 --> 01:10:48,439
Speaker 3: We actually did hear from Duke Tobin, but I just

1341
01:10:48,439 --> 01:10:50,680
Speaker 3: have to go back. Did he mention Joe Flacco at all?

1342
01:10:50,840 --> 01:10:52,720
Speaker 5: He did? Okay, that was brought up.

1343
01:10:52,680 --> 01:10:56,240
Speaker 25: In past Struggling with this talkback because I don't want

1344
01:10:56,280 --> 01:10:59,479
Speaker 25: to be a conspiracy theory guy. Oh we could do

1345
01:10:59,520 --> 01:11:03,160
Speaker 25: a conspirac He's very skeptical of four of the five

1346
01:11:03,880 --> 01:11:07,960
Speaker 25: wild card games being decided in the last minute of

1347
01:11:08,000 --> 01:11:12,360
Speaker 25: the game. It kind of reminds me of like NBA

1348
01:11:13,800 --> 01:11:18,000
Speaker 25: playoff basketball, where every single game goes to game seven

1349
01:11:18,160 --> 01:11:19,360
Speaker 25: for TV ratings.

1350
01:11:20,160 --> 01:11:22,280
Speaker 4: I don't know, what do you guys think. Yeah, I

1351
01:11:22,320 --> 01:11:25,080
Speaker 4: don't think it's that. Yes, I don't think it's that.

1352
01:11:25,400 --> 01:11:28,200
Speaker 26: Are we stuck in some sort of purgatory or something here?

1353
01:11:28,479 --> 01:11:30,200
Speaker 4: Yes, just getting a little bit.

1354
01:11:32,400 --> 01:11:35,120
Speaker 26: Perplexed by some of the answers. You know, apparently you

1355
01:11:35,160 --> 01:11:37,599
Speaker 26: can just believe that you're really good at the job

1356
01:11:38,479 --> 01:11:41,000
Speaker 26: even when things don't really seem like a glad that

1357
01:11:41,080 --> 01:11:44,040
Speaker 26: dude gave us an hour. But I just thought that

1358
01:11:44,120 --> 01:11:45,800
Speaker 26: was a little funny and now we got Wess.

1359
01:11:46,360 --> 01:11:49,320
Speaker 4: Well that was my thought. Was he talking about West or.

1360
01:11:49,240 --> 01:11:50,559
Speaker 6: Doing insanity or what?

1361
01:11:50,760 --> 01:11:52,240
Speaker 26: Just being able to say you're the best team when

1362
01:11:52,280 --> 01:11:53,920
Speaker 26: you're eight and eight love it?

1363
01:11:54,800 --> 01:11:56,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, I didn't know what if he was talking about.

1364
01:11:57,280 --> 01:12:00,200
Speaker 5: And that is just a scary place to be. Yeah,

1365
01:12:00,200 --> 01:12:03,040
Speaker 5: it's a fan and it is I think wild a

1366
01:12:03,080 --> 01:12:03,519
Speaker 5: good mention.

1367
01:12:04,560 --> 01:12:07,880
Speaker 4: Wild Card weekend has not disappointed. Now, all the games

1368
01:12:07,920 --> 01:12:08,679
Speaker 4: are pretty good.

1369
01:12:09,000 --> 01:12:10,840
Speaker 22: I mean they all look like they followed the same

1370
01:12:10,880 --> 01:12:12,680
Speaker 22: script for coming down to the last drivers up for

1371
01:12:12,760 --> 01:12:15,000
Speaker 22: last night's game, I think tonight.

1372
01:12:14,760 --> 01:12:17,360
Speaker 4: The Texans defense are just going to feast.

1373
01:12:17,080 --> 01:12:18,400
Speaker 6: On Rogers and the boys there.

1374
01:12:19,040 --> 01:12:21,160
Speaker 10: And last week, did I hear Dike Tobin say in

1375
01:12:21,160 --> 01:12:23,680
Speaker 10: one breath we had success building his team in free

1376
01:12:23,720 --> 01:12:26,760
Speaker 10: agency a few years ago, and then the next rest say, well,

1377
01:12:26,840 --> 01:12:28,120
Speaker 10: you can't build a team that way.

1378
01:12:29,000 --> 01:12:29,879
Speaker 6: Just mind boggling.

1379
01:12:29,960 --> 01:12:32,240
Speaker 4: What else can you say to another day? Well, it's

1380
01:12:32,240 --> 01:12:33,320
Speaker 4: the Bengals today.

1381
01:12:33,360 --> 01:12:35,439
Speaker 3: A lot of mind boggling stuff to when you when

1382
01:12:35,439 --> 01:12:37,000
Speaker 3: you kind of sit back and just take in that

1383
01:12:37,080 --> 01:12:39,559
Speaker 3: full hour of what Duke Tobin had to say. We'll

1384
01:12:39,560 --> 01:12:43,360
Speaker 3: spend some time on that in in our three as well.

1385
01:12:43,400 --> 01:12:46,720
Speaker 2: Ten years, ten years you pulled with.

1386
01:12:46,880 --> 01:12:51,040
Speaker 11: The beercaf fans, got a root for the reds Ands,

1387
01:12:51,040 --> 01:12:54,479
Speaker 11: Eve you musketeers, Oh the poor beer calf fans?

1388
01:12:55,080 --> 01:12:57,680
Speaker 18: Who will hope we need to buy out our coach.

1389
01:12:58,880 --> 01:13:02,120
Speaker 4: Man? What's your reaction to that? How quickly things can change?

1390
01:13:02,640 --> 01:13:06,360
Speaker 5: Quickly? It's been ten years, he said, yep, Hey.

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01:13:06,240 --> 01:13:10,200
Speaker 27: They Tony and lasted. We had some great football this weekend.

1392
01:13:10,280 --> 01:13:13,040
Speaker 27: But that's not why I'm calling. I want to say

1393
01:13:13,080 --> 01:13:17,000
Speaker 27: congratulations Tony for being two weeks clean from walking into

1394
01:13:17,000 --> 01:13:20,720
Speaker 27: other people's hotel rooms. Hope you can keep the streak up.

1395
01:13:20,760 --> 01:13:23,720
Speaker 27: Ball of twenty twenty six. Have a good day, gentleman.

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01:13:23,960 --> 01:13:27,120
Speaker 3: Thank you, thank you. It has been great. It has

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01:13:27,160 --> 01:13:28,599
Speaker 3: been great and very welcomed.

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01:13:29,960 --> 01:13:32,920
Speaker 28: I noticed no one is talking about Caleb Williams wearing

1399
01:13:33,000 --> 01:13:34,160
Speaker 28: nail polish anymore.

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01:13:35,160 --> 01:13:37,559
Speaker 5: Well, you must not have the same Twitter feed that

1401
01:13:37,600 --> 01:13:37,960
Speaker 5: I did.

1402
01:13:38,080 --> 01:13:41,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, there was a lot of people talking about it.

1403
01:13:42,840 --> 01:13:45,759
Speaker 2: What the Chargers are doing with Justin Herbert's career.

1404
01:13:46,120 --> 01:13:48,760
Speaker 22: He should request, I tried, he should request, I tried.

1405
01:13:50,760 --> 01:13:54,320
Speaker 5: I was gonna say. I've seen two tweets now already today.

1406
01:13:54,800 --> 01:13:57,120
Speaker 5: One is saying Justin Herbert might quit and go back

1407
01:13:57,160 --> 01:13:59,960
Speaker 5: to medical school. Another said he might pull an in

1408
01:14:00,000 --> 01:14:02,519
Speaker 5: Andrew Luck now that they're in the same sixth season.

1409
01:14:03,439 --> 01:14:05,640
Speaker 5: So it just kind of feels good to have the

1410
01:14:05,640 --> 01:14:07,360
Speaker 5: pressure off of Joe Burrow for once.

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01:14:07,439 --> 01:14:08,599
Speaker 4: That a good, good point.

1412
01:14:08,960 --> 01:14:11,160
Speaker 5: I put the the meme of Kevin from the Office

1413
01:14:11,160 --> 01:14:13,040
Speaker 5: out there where he says it's just nice to win

1414
01:14:13,080 --> 01:14:17,280
Speaker 5: one to see Justin Herbert and the crossairs.

1415
01:14:17,280 --> 01:14:21,240
Speaker 29: Finally, yep, I stand corrected. It's the Lord in heaven.

1416
01:14:22,080 --> 01:14:25,400
Speaker 29: You know, I got a few days to process Duke

1417
01:14:25,439 --> 01:14:29,439
Speaker 29: Tobin's press conference, and what I've been able to gather

1418
01:14:29,680 --> 01:14:31,280
Speaker 29: is blah blah blah.

1419
01:14:31,120 --> 01:14:36,360
Speaker 4: Blah blah blah blah blah. I think you forgot one blah. Yes,

1420
01:14:36,560 --> 01:14:37,639
Speaker 4: it makes a lot of sense.

1421
01:14:38,560 --> 01:14:40,599
Speaker 18: Tony as is chounting from not Healthy here.

1422
01:14:41,360 --> 01:14:42,280
Speaker 6: I'm gonna give you.

1423
01:14:43,200 --> 01:14:46,080
Speaker 18: A couple of Bengal positions of need, and I want

1424
01:14:46,160 --> 01:14:50,600
Speaker 18: you both to answer either draft or free agency. In

1425
01:14:50,640 --> 01:14:52,479
Speaker 18: some places, you would say both, but I want you

1426
01:14:52,520 --> 01:14:54,200
Speaker 18: to have to pick between the two. So here are

1427
01:14:54,200 --> 01:15:03,160
Speaker 18: the positions of need linebacker, safety, edge, defensive tackle, and corner.

1428
01:15:04,000 --> 01:15:05,920
Speaker 18: Which one are you going to be addressing in the

1429
01:15:06,000 --> 01:15:07,040
Speaker 18: draft or free agency?

1430
01:15:07,040 --> 01:15:10,120
Speaker 3: Hopefully, hopefully they don't really have to address corner. Hopefully

1431
01:15:10,160 --> 01:15:13,480
Speaker 3: they get that done with U currently who's on the roster.

1432
01:15:14,880 --> 01:15:15,240
Speaker 6: Safety.

1433
01:15:15,240 --> 01:15:17,640
Speaker 3: I'm gonna lean draft just because I'm I'm dialed in

1434
01:15:17,680 --> 01:15:22,240
Speaker 3: on Caleb Downs right now. Edge, I'll say free agency. Linebacker,

1435
01:15:22,280 --> 01:15:25,000
Speaker 3: I'll say free agency, and then I'll lean dtackle in

1436
01:15:25,040 --> 01:15:25,519
Speaker 3: the draft.

1437
01:15:26,160 --> 01:15:36,720
Speaker 5: Linebacker, free agency, cornerback free agency. Okay, safety, edge, and

1438
01:15:36,840 --> 01:15:37,799
Speaker 5: defensive tackle.

1439
01:15:38,080 --> 01:15:38,400
Speaker 4: Draft.

1440
01:15:40,320 --> 01:15:43,360
Speaker 22: You know, I thought of all the talkbacks in the

1441
01:15:43,400 --> 01:15:46,360
Speaker 22: amount of time Duke Tobin did his sixty three minute

1442
01:15:46,400 --> 01:15:49,240
Speaker 22: press conference on Friday, it would be about one hundred

1443
01:15:49,240 --> 01:15:53,720
Speaker 22: and twenty six back to back, no analysis. Now, I

1444
01:15:53,800 --> 01:15:57,240
Speaker 22: gotta say one hundred and twenty six in a row.

1445
01:15:57,640 --> 01:16:00,200
Speaker 22: I don't think anyone is capable of doing that. I

1446
01:16:00,200 --> 01:16:02,600
Speaker 22: feel like that's a wasted time and a lot of

1447
01:16:02,720 --> 01:16:05,759
Speaker 22: filibuster and ward Shaw was played out on Friday.

1448
01:16:07,040 --> 01:16:12,519
Speaker 30: Okayy Austin, I like you saying accosted, that's your word.

1449
01:16:12,640 --> 01:16:16,519
Speaker 30: Came to my mind. Jacksonville definitely should have ran the

1450
01:16:16,560 --> 01:16:21,080
Speaker 30: ball more. Jalen hurts. I don't understand why he doesn't

1451
01:16:21,120 --> 01:16:25,080
Speaker 30: run it anymore. Aj Brown needs to hold onto the ball.

1452
01:16:25,240 --> 01:16:29,439
Speaker 30: Gritty performance by Buffalo. It's gonna be hard. They're kind

1453
01:16:29,439 --> 01:16:35,120
Speaker 30: of beat up playing at Denver. Shout out to Bob Weird.

1454
01:16:37,280 --> 01:16:41,640
Speaker 31: Thank you, thank you, same results, same old song and

1455
01:16:41,720 --> 01:16:43,280
Speaker 31: bands repping the city out here is.

1456
01:16:43,280 --> 01:16:44,880
Speaker 4: Sunny hot Zona. What up, Tony?

1457
01:16:44,880 --> 01:16:45,120
Speaker 18: What up?

1458
01:16:45,120 --> 01:16:45,439
Speaker 6: Buddy?

1459
01:16:45,920 --> 01:16:46,120
Speaker 18: Man?

1460
01:16:46,160 --> 01:16:47,839
Speaker 5: I can't even catstruck this season?

1461
01:16:47,920 --> 01:16:50,880
Speaker 31: Then, come on wes Cosette West Man.

1462
01:16:51,439 --> 01:16:53,400
Speaker 4: Yo, you wonder why we so hard on you?

1463
01:16:53,479 --> 01:16:53,679
Speaker 20: Man?

1464
01:16:53,880 --> 01:16:55,200
Speaker 4: Man, The fan base is tired.

1465
01:16:55,800 --> 01:16:58,960
Speaker 31: This ain't Greensboro, Carolina, dude, this is Cincinnati.

1466
01:16:59,040 --> 01:16:59,200
Speaker 12: Man.

1467
01:16:59,600 --> 01:17:02,280
Speaker 4: We've paid since in the bar. We know ball. It's

1468
01:17:02,320 --> 01:17:03,360
Speaker 4: time for a new change.

1469
01:17:03,400 --> 01:17:03,479
Speaker 29: Man.

1470
01:17:03,520 --> 01:17:05,040
Speaker 31: I don't know what to say about the Bearcats. It's

1471
01:17:05,040 --> 01:17:08,320
Speaker 31: just hurting my bearcat feeling. This ain't you see sports?

1472
01:17:08,680 --> 01:17:12,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm with you. I'm hurt. That hurt me a

1473
01:17:12,240 --> 01:17:13,120
Speaker 4: little bit. I'm hurt.

1474
01:17:13,400 --> 01:17:18,120
Speaker 5: I mean Ronnie ron is As that's that's hurt.

1475
01:17:18,200 --> 01:17:18,439
Speaker 4: Yep.

1476
01:17:19,439 --> 01:17:20,800
Speaker 22: Hey, guys, Marcot from the grove.

1477
01:17:21,400 --> 01:17:23,880
Speaker 32: After watching this team play on Friday night, I have

1478
01:17:23,960 --> 01:17:29,920
Speaker 32: a little game listen and react. You see Bearcats are

1479
01:17:30,000 --> 01:17:36,000
Speaker 32: expected to fire Wes Miller and hire Travis Steele as

1480
01:17:36,040 --> 01:17:41,200
Speaker 32: the head coach. What would be your initial reaction if

1481
01:17:41,240 --> 01:17:41,959
Speaker 32: that news.

1482
01:17:41,720 --> 01:17:42,080
Speaker 16: Would have.

1483
01:17:46,280 --> 01:17:50,360
Speaker 3: I think right now any coaching news would be well welcomed.

1484
01:17:51,320 --> 01:17:51,880
Speaker 4: H for me.

1485
01:17:52,920 --> 01:17:55,840
Speaker 3: If the name isn't Jared Calhoun, I would I would

1486
01:17:55,920 --> 01:17:58,400
Speaker 3: probably not be as happy at the initial thought.

1487
01:17:58,640 --> 01:18:00,760
Speaker 5: My reaction would be the bear Cats got better.

1488
01:18:02,479 --> 01:18:03,320
Speaker 4: Tony Austin.

1489
01:18:03,400 --> 01:18:05,880
Speaker 5: Also, what about Mark Pope? He might be available.

1490
01:18:06,280 --> 01:18:07,760
Speaker 4: I'm more on Bruce Pearl right now.

1491
01:18:09,520 --> 01:18:12,720
Speaker 28: Tony Austin, This is act from the iHeart Listeners Tribune.

1492
01:18:13,479 --> 01:18:16,799
Speaker 28: He started off the show pretty good, kind of unraveled

1493
01:18:16,840 --> 01:18:18,760
Speaker 28: there in the middle. Can you tell us a little

1494
01:18:18,800 --> 01:18:22,080
Speaker 28: bit about what went on? Well, you know, we actually

1495
01:18:22,080 --> 01:18:26,160
Speaker 28: spoke really hard. We came in prepared and day in

1496
01:18:26,240 --> 01:18:28,320
Speaker 28: and day out, We're always going to speak hard. It's

1497
01:18:28,360 --> 01:18:31,600
Speaker 28: going to work hard, and I think anything short of

1498
01:18:31,640 --> 01:18:33,400
Speaker 28: that is not an excuse.

1499
01:18:33,840 --> 01:18:34,479
Speaker 4: Yep, yep.

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01:18:34,640 --> 01:18:36,559
Speaker 3: I think that pretty some we we should do that,

1501
01:18:36,640 --> 01:18:41,200
Speaker 3: we should take, you know, a media type of presser.

1502
01:18:41,360 --> 01:18:42,000
Speaker 4: I think at some.

1503
01:18:42,000 --> 01:18:46,280
Speaker 5: Point that's an idea that I've had for years, and

1504
01:18:46,320 --> 01:18:47,800
Speaker 5: nobody ever seems to want to do.

1505
01:18:47,880 --> 01:18:47,960
Speaker 33: It.

1506
01:18:48,400 --> 01:18:50,160
Speaker 5: I think it would be a funny bit was.

1507
01:18:50,120 --> 01:18:51,280
Speaker 4: That from the iHeart Tribune.

1508
01:18:51,680 --> 01:18:55,679
Speaker 5: Yeah, okay, I wanted to do a series at one

1509
01:18:55,720 --> 01:18:59,880
Speaker 5: point in which I was like a reporter outside the

1510
01:19:00,000 --> 01:19:04,200
Speaker 5: studio doors and you know, whoever it was, whether it's

1511
01:19:04,200 --> 01:19:10,360
Speaker 5: you or Mow or Willie or Sag after the Stooge Report,

1512
01:19:10,479 --> 01:19:13,320
Speaker 5: whatever they're gonna they come out and I'm right there.

1513
01:19:13,800 --> 01:19:16,559
Speaker 5: They have like a towel over their shoulder and like,

1514
01:19:16,800 --> 01:19:18,719
Speaker 5: I've wanted to do that, just went through battle.

1515
01:19:18,760 --> 01:19:20,080
Speaker 4: I think it would be hilarious.

1516
01:19:21,479 --> 01:19:23,080
Speaker 6: Man, I Pickhouna in Kentucky.

1517
01:19:23,200 --> 01:19:25,280
Speaker 13: I know I might be in the minority, but I

1518
01:19:25,360 --> 01:19:27,519
Speaker 13: really love what the Reds that did this off season,

1519
01:19:27,560 --> 01:19:31,439
Speaker 13: adding this pierced guy, the middle reliever, another long reliever,

1520
01:19:31,560 --> 01:19:34,439
Speaker 13: another first round pick. I love stockpiling the town of

1521
01:19:34,520 --> 01:19:36,720
Speaker 13: these guys that had it coming out. Tito was the

1522
01:19:36,720 --> 01:19:38,559
Speaker 13: man to get it out of them. And you know,

1523
01:19:38,800 --> 01:19:41,120
Speaker 13: yeah they didn't go get swarmper, but that's fine. You

1524
01:19:41,160 --> 01:19:43,320
Speaker 13: set yourself up and then you go become a buyer

1525
01:19:43,320 --> 01:19:45,080
Speaker 13: at the deadline and you ran a player for a

1526
01:19:45,200 --> 01:19:47,719
Speaker 13: year or maybe have a contract for another year.

1527
01:19:48,800 --> 01:19:53,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm not look. I think a lot of the

1528
01:19:53,920 --> 01:19:58,519
Speaker 3: air came out with the Schwarmer happenings and what they

1529
01:19:58,600 --> 01:20:01,599
Speaker 3: have failed to do since. But they are making some

1530
01:20:01,720 --> 01:20:04,080
Speaker 3: smaller moves that do make a lot of sense. And

1531
01:20:04,520 --> 01:20:06,800
Speaker 3: we actually are gonna have the opportunity in our three

1532
01:20:06,880 --> 01:20:09,120
Speaker 3: to go to a braves expert. We actually do have

1533
01:20:09,160 --> 01:20:14,000
Speaker 3: a braves expert on this show. Who's that you? You're

1534
01:20:14,040 --> 01:20:16,679
Speaker 3: gonna spend some time telling us about Pierce Johnson later today.

1535
01:20:16,880 --> 01:20:20,320
Speaker 5: I've watched way more Pierce Johnson than you think, and

1536
01:20:20,479 --> 01:20:23,320
Speaker 5: listen to way more Pierce Johnson than you. I mean,

1537
01:20:23,439 --> 01:20:28,920
Speaker 5: I feel pretty good about the Reds pitching. Honestly, that

1538
01:20:28,960 --> 01:20:32,519
Speaker 5: doesn't mean they're gonna win baseball games, but I don't.

1539
01:20:33,000 --> 01:20:35,120
Speaker 4: I think that we'll get into it.

1540
01:20:36,400 --> 01:20:39,320
Speaker 20: Justin Herbert has the same amount of touchdown passes and

1541
01:20:39,320 --> 01:20:41,640
Speaker 20: playoff football as Juwan Jennings.

1542
01:20:43,120 --> 01:20:45,320
Speaker 5: Wow, so that would mean he also is the same

1543
01:20:45,360 --> 01:20:48,759
Speaker 5: amounts as Joe Mixon. That's right, If I'm not mistaken,

1544
01:20:48,880 --> 01:20:50,560
Speaker 5: That's right. People forget.

1545
01:20:51,840 --> 01:20:54,280
Speaker 25: Wait, Audie, I'm gonna hear all the cuts that you

1546
01:20:54,439 --> 01:20:57,160
Speaker 25: made from Duke Tobin's press conference.

1547
01:20:57,200 --> 01:20:59,240
Speaker 4: Oh man, I was off this weekend. I didn't I

1548
01:20:59,280 --> 01:21:02,000
Speaker 4: didn't give us some time.

1549
01:21:02,040 --> 01:21:04,560
Speaker 5: But all the seasons just started to make any cuts,

1550
01:21:04,640 --> 01:21:08,160
Speaker 5: but I will eventually all right, that was it. Can

1551
01:21:08,200 --> 01:21:09,960
Speaker 5: I ask one question before we get the break. You

1552
01:21:09,960 --> 01:21:12,519
Speaker 5: can ask as many questions as you want. Man, at

1553
01:21:12,520 --> 01:21:15,000
Speaker 5: the end of the day, do you.

1554
01:21:14,800 --> 01:21:17,599
Speaker 3: Do you make anything? Have you seen these reports out

1555
01:21:17,600 --> 01:21:22,719
Speaker 3: here and this pertains to Levi Stadium about Levi Stadium

1556
01:21:23,720 --> 01:21:28,800
Speaker 3: week being next to the low frequency electromagnetic field that

1557
01:21:28,960 --> 01:21:32,599
Speaker 3: can degrade collagen we contendents and cause soft tissue damage

1558
01:21:32,600 --> 01:21:35,080
Speaker 3: at levels that regulators call safe.

1559
01:21:35,280 --> 01:21:41,160
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think your thoughts we may have to like

1560
01:21:41,240 --> 01:21:44,960
Speaker 5: dive into the history books because if I'm not mistaken,

1561
01:21:46,160 --> 01:21:51,840
Speaker 5: the when WLW was five hundred thousand watts, there were

1562
01:21:51,880 --> 01:21:54,960
Speaker 5: a bunch of issues in the city of Mason around

1563
01:21:55,040 --> 01:21:59,439
Speaker 5: the transmitter. Oh, like you could pick up the the

1564
01:22:00,240 --> 01:22:03,320
Speaker 5: signal off of like your microwave or a door hinge

1565
01:22:03,760 --> 01:22:07,280
Speaker 5: or you could. It was just everywhere. And I think

1566
01:22:07,320 --> 01:22:12,000
Speaker 5: eventually regulators came in with what was safe and unsafe

1567
01:22:12,040 --> 01:22:15,040
Speaker 5: and all that sort of stuff. I don't know anything

1568
01:22:15,080 --> 01:22:20,200
Speaker 5: about that. I've seen the thread that's making its rounds.

1569
01:22:20,200 --> 01:22:24,760
Speaker 5: It's viral on social media. If here's here's what I

1570
01:22:24,800 --> 01:22:29,360
Speaker 5: would say if I were Kyle Shanahan, and John Lynch,

1571
01:22:30,439 --> 01:22:33,320
Speaker 5: and I worked for a football team that I'm sure

1572
01:22:33,400 --> 01:22:37,599
Speaker 5: what are the Niners worth? Probably eight billion dollars if

1573
01:22:37,840 --> 01:22:44,000
Speaker 5: I worked for that team, and this has become a trend,

1574
01:22:44,200 --> 01:22:49,040
Speaker 5: especially since they moved out there. I would would like

1575
01:22:49,080 --> 01:22:54,960
Speaker 5: an entire full report from the people in the organization

1576
01:22:55,920 --> 01:22:59,080
Speaker 5: to figure out whether or not this is true and

1577
01:22:59,120 --> 01:23:06,280
Speaker 5: what the option would be for them, because like a

1578
01:23:06,280 --> 01:23:10,240
Speaker 5: lot of teams go off site. Now sure it's right

1579
01:23:10,240 --> 01:23:13,120
Speaker 5: there next to the stadium, that would obviously be millions

1580
01:23:13,120 --> 01:23:16,360
Speaker 5: of dollars essentially wasted. But who knows, maybe you could

1581
01:23:16,360 --> 01:23:19,200
Speaker 5: turn into a development of some kind. Yeah, but like

1582
01:23:20,840 --> 01:23:24,880
Speaker 5: they're making your football team worse, would it not be

1583
01:23:25,040 --> 01:23:26,519
Speaker 5: worth it to pivot?

1584
01:23:27,360 --> 01:23:30,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, at least do a full investigation.

1585
01:23:30,200 --> 01:23:32,600
Speaker 5: And I would hope that the NFL would play a

1586
01:23:32,640 --> 01:23:34,880
Speaker 5: part in that as well, so that they they know

1587
01:23:35,280 --> 01:23:37,080
Speaker 5: and other teams would want to know when it comes

1588
01:23:37,120 --> 01:23:37,880
Speaker 5: to building stuff.

1589
01:23:37,960 --> 01:23:39,080
Speaker 4: Yeah in the future safety.

1590
01:23:39,880 --> 01:23:43,040
Speaker 5: I'm sure the NFLPA is probably wondering about this, So

1591
01:23:43,560 --> 01:23:46,000
Speaker 5: I would like there to be some sort of study

1592
01:23:46,280 --> 01:23:50,599
Speaker 5: or investigation done that I would trust more than a

1593
01:23:50,640 --> 01:23:52,280
Speaker 5: thread on the internet from somebody I.

1594
01:23:52,200 --> 01:23:54,559
Speaker 4: Don't know you would.

1595
01:23:54,600 --> 01:23:57,360
Speaker 5: I would hope that that's an internal conversation happening between

1596
01:23:57,360 --> 01:23:59,599
Speaker 5: the forty nine ers, right correct, They're like, wait a minute,

1597
01:23:59,640 --> 01:24:00,679
Speaker 5: could this be something?

1598
01:24:00,920 --> 01:24:01,120
Speaker 10: Right?

1599
01:24:02,280 --> 01:24:03,639
Speaker 5: I would hope so. I mean, if I'm a Ford,

1600
01:24:03,720 --> 01:24:05,800
Speaker 5: if I'm a player, I'd want to know. If I'm

1601
01:24:06,240 --> 01:24:10,759
Speaker 5: a potential free agent player and San Francisco is courting

1602
01:24:10,800 --> 01:24:14,320
Speaker 5: me and I've seen all the stuff that's happened, wouldn't

1603
01:24:14,360 --> 01:24:17,559
Speaker 5: you be like, Okay, I don't know about this.

1604
01:24:17,680 --> 01:24:19,880
Speaker 4: I'm gonna need to know more. Yeah. I think that's fair.

1605
01:24:19,920 --> 01:24:20,920
Speaker 4: I don't think that's crazy.

1606
01:24:20,960 --> 01:24:24,400
Speaker 3: I think that's fair. We will continue on. We've got

1607
01:24:24,439 --> 01:24:26,439
Speaker 3: plenty more still to go. Phone lines are open five

1608
01:24:26,479 --> 01:24:28,760
Speaker 3: to one, three seven, four nine, fifteen thirty. It's since

1609
01:24:28,800 --> 01:24:31,080
Speaker 3: he three sixty the Monday edition on the whole of

1610
01:24:31,120 --> 01:24:33,879
Speaker 3: the Bengals ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station.

1611
01:24:34,000 --> 01:24:36,439
Speaker 5: From the Wyoming Air Temp Star Weather Center.

1612
01:24:36,560 --> 01:24:56,280
Speaker 1: You found Cincinnati's ESPN fifteen thirty.

1613
01:24:50,320 --> 01:24:50,920
Speaker 4: Welcome back.

1614
01:24:51,840 --> 01:24:55,920
Speaker 3: It is since he three sixty ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati

1615
01:24:55,960 --> 01:25:01,160
Speaker 3: Sports Station. We've got some uh, Duke reaction that I

1616
01:25:01,200 --> 01:25:04,800
Speaker 3: think we both have saved from the weekend. Austin on

1617
01:25:04,880 --> 01:25:07,120
Speaker 3: top of Duke Tobin, we'll talk about some Major League

1618
01:25:07,120 --> 01:25:10,200
Speaker 3: Baseball moves, especially what the Reds did over the weekend.

1619
01:25:10,720 --> 01:25:12,960
Speaker 3: Talk a little college football playoff? What else do we got?

1620
01:25:13,880 --> 01:25:16,200
Speaker 5: Well, speaking of the college football playoff, I don't know

1621
01:25:16,200 --> 01:25:21,320
Speaker 5: if you saw over the weekend Heather Dinich of ESPN

1622
01:25:21,439 --> 01:25:25,919
Speaker 5: talking about potential expansion to the college football playoff.

1623
01:25:27,160 --> 01:25:28,200
Speaker 4: Have you seen this? No?

1624
01:25:28,960 --> 01:25:32,840
Speaker 5: So she posted that the Big Ten is willing to

1625
01:25:32,920 --> 01:25:38,760
Speaker 5: consider a sixteen team college football playoff field next year

1626
01:25:39,800 --> 01:25:43,120
Speaker 5: if the SEC will commit to a twenty four team

1627
01:25:43,240 --> 01:25:49,120
Speaker 5: field two or three years later, multiple sources told ESPN,

1628
01:25:49,360 --> 01:25:53,120
Speaker 5: SEC Commissioner Greg Sankie apparently has no interest in committing

1629
01:25:53,160 --> 01:25:56,759
Speaker 5: to that right now. God bless Sankie, and if Sankei

1630
01:25:56,840 --> 01:25:59,960
Speaker 5: and Big Ten Commissioner Tony Pettiti can't reach a copper

1631
01:26:00,920 --> 01:26:05,719
Speaker 5: by January twenty third, the field will remain at twelve.

1632
01:26:09,479 --> 01:26:10,880
Speaker 5: What are we doing?

1633
01:26:11,080 --> 01:26:13,639
Speaker 4: I have I was a proponent of expanding the field.

1634
01:26:15,520 --> 01:26:18,360
Speaker 3: Now I feel like we've just entered into this territory

1635
01:26:19,000 --> 01:26:22,639
Speaker 3: where much less and I think it's a smaller level

1636
01:26:22,680 --> 01:26:25,040
Speaker 3: of what we're seeing in the transfer portal and nil.

1637
01:26:25,479 --> 01:26:28,479
Speaker 3: But it's almost like when you open the door you

1638
01:26:28,560 --> 01:26:32,439
Speaker 3: talk about like those doors being pushed wide open. It's

1639
01:26:32,479 --> 01:26:34,880
Speaker 3: almost like, now that there's a precedent for it, it's like,

1640
01:26:34,920 --> 01:26:36,960
Speaker 3: where do you stop it at? Like no one knows

1641
01:26:37,000 --> 01:26:40,280
Speaker 3: with nil and the transfer portal, where it's going to stop.

1642
01:26:40,320 --> 01:26:42,160
Speaker 3: Because now the floodgates are open, it's going to be

1643
01:26:42,160 --> 01:26:45,160
Speaker 3: hard to walk back on any of it. At some point,

1644
01:26:45,240 --> 01:26:48,760
Speaker 3: you've got to put a stop to this conversation about expansion. Yeah,

1645
01:26:49,320 --> 01:26:52,240
Speaker 3: and if not, this is going to get ugly, in

1646
01:26:52,240 --> 01:26:54,800
Speaker 3: my opinion, justlyer than what it already.

1647
01:26:54,520 --> 01:26:55,360
Speaker 4: Is not good.

1648
01:26:55,439 --> 01:26:59,479
Speaker 5: I feel like for college football, it lines the pockets

1649
01:26:59,479 --> 01:27:01,679
Speaker 5: of everybody for sure, and there'll be a bunch of money,

1650
01:27:01,680 --> 01:27:04,880
Speaker 5: and I get all that, but like you know, some

1651
01:27:04,960 --> 01:27:10,760
Speaker 5: of these games have been non competitive. There's I just

1652
01:27:10,800 --> 01:27:14,040
Speaker 5: feel like that's not what's best for the game. I

1653
01:27:14,040 --> 01:27:15,880
Speaker 5: don't know if I know what's best for the game,

1654
01:27:16,200 --> 01:27:19,360
Speaker 5: but I feel like that's not the right direction for

1655
01:27:19,439 --> 01:27:22,439
Speaker 5: it to go. She did say in her reporting that

1656
01:27:22,640 --> 01:27:28,439
Speaker 5: the day before the National Championship Game, so Sunday, January eighteenth,

1657
01:27:28,600 --> 01:27:32,520
Speaker 5: there will be a meeting of all ten FBS commissioners,

1658
01:27:33,000 --> 01:27:36,920
Speaker 5: Notre Dame Athletic Director Pete Bavaqua, and the eleven presidents

1659
01:27:36,960 --> 01:27:40,800
Speaker 5: and chancellors who compromise. The college football Playoffs Board of

1660
01:27:40,920 --> 01:27:44,880
Speaker 5: Managers will meet in Miami before the National Championship Game

1661
01:27:44,880 --> 01:27:48,120
Speaker 5: for their annual review of the season. Where they will

1662
01:27:48,800 --> 01:27:52,080
Speaker 5: they will will where they will discuss two models, a

1663
01:27:52,160 --> 01:27:56,120
Speaker 5: sixteen team field with five conference champions and eleven at

1664
01:27:56,200 --> 01:27:59,880
Speaker 5: large team teams, and another format with twenty four teams.

1665
01:28:01,479 --> 01:28:05,880
Speaker 3: This here's my thing. It's never gonna be enough. Right

1666
01:28:06,720 --> 01:28:09,880
Speaker 3: when it was the fourteen, we were always talking about

1667
01:28:09,880 --> 01:28:13,200
Speaker 3: teams five and six. When it's the twelve team, we're

1668
01:28:13,240 --> 01:28:15,800
Speaker 3: constantly talking about teams thirteen and fourteen. When it goes

1669
01:28:15,840 --> 01:28:18,920
Speaker 3: to sixteen, you'll talk about teams seventeen and eight. It's

1670
01:28:18,960 --> 01:28:23,920
Speaker 3: never going to suffice. It's never gonna appease everybody. Why

1671
01:28:24,000 --> 01:28:28,720
Speaker 3: the continuation to just chase this, to me drives me nuts.

1672
01:28:28,800 --> 01:28:31,120
Speaker 3: I could not hate this anymore.

1673
01:28:31,320 --> 01:28:33,800
Speaker 5: And from what it seems like in the way that

1674
01:28:33,840 --> 01:28:37,880
Speaker 5: I'm reading this is that the bad guy here is

1675
01:28:37,920 --> 01:28:41,280
Speaker 5: the Big ten, because it feels like, you know, like, yeah,

1676
01:28:41,320 --> 01:28:46,679
Speaker 5: will will if you support a sixteen team field, will

1677
01:28:46,920 --> 01:28:49,040
Speaker 5: we want this in exchange for our support of a

1678
01:28:49,080 --> 01:28:50,000
Speaker 5: sixteen team field?

1679
01:28:50,160 --> 01:28:50,720
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1680
01:28:50,760 --> 01:28:53,280
Speaker 5: And that I just I don't think that's a good thing.

1681
01:28:53,479 --> 01:28:55,280
Speaker 5: And I've said for a long time they want to

1682
01:28:55,320 --> 01:28:59,240
Speaker 5: be like the NFL, which means there's gonna be I

1683
01:28:59,280 --> 01:29:03,639
Speaker 5: don't know, fifty teams divvied up and there's gonna be

1684
01:29:03,720 --> 01:29:05,680
Speaker 5: twenty of them in the playoffs or twenty four of

1685
01:29:05,720 --> 01:29:06,519
Speaker 5: them in the playoffs.

1686
01:29:06,640 --> 01:29:07,799
Speaker 4: Yeah, and.

1687
01:29:09,120 --> 01:29:11,559
Speaker 5: That's fine, like if you want to eventually get to that,

1688
01:29:11,680 --> 01:29:14,400
Speaker 5: but there has to be structure. There has to be

1689
01:29:15,280 --> 01:29:18,240
Speaker 5: a schedule that makes sense. There has to be some

1690
01:29:18,320 --> 01:29:21,680
Speaker 5: sort of balance of power between all the teams that

1691
01:29:21,720 --> 01:29:23,080
Speaker 5: are in that grouping.

1692
01:29:23,760 --> 01:29:26,160
Speaker 3: Let me ask you this, how many of the twelve

1693
01:29:26,200 --> 01:29:29,479
Speaker 3: teams in the College Football Playoff this year do you

1694
01:29:29,520 --> 01:29:32,400
Speaker 3: think have or had a legitimate chance to win a title?

1695
01:29:34,560 --> 01:29:40,280
Speaker 3: I thought three, Like, no offense to these teams. James

1696
01:29:40,320 --> 01:29:43,760
Speaker 3: Madison's never gonna win the title. No, Tulane is never

1697
01:29:43,760 --> 01:29:46,600
Speaker 3: gonna win the title. No, I don't think when you

1698
01:29:46,640 --> 01:29:48,320
Speaker 3: look at the grand scheme of it and what Indiana

1699
01:29:48,360 --> 01:29:51,639
Speaker 3: did to Baman, what Baman did Oklahoma, Alabama and Oklahoma

1700
01:29:51,640 --> 01:29:55,240
Speaker 3: weren't good enough. Teams Texas, A and M at the

1701
01:29:55,280 --> 01:29:57,799
Speaker 3: end of the day, wasn't good enough. Now the playoff

1702
01:29:57,920 --> 01:30:01,439
Speaker 3: does help in a sense. Miami. Miami's playing for a

1703
01:30:01,520 --> 01:30:04,439
Speaker 3: national title they would have been in. They were already

1704
01:30:04,920 --> 01:30:07,639
Speaker 3: a borderline team getting in, so it does help them.

1705
01:30:07,640 --> 01:30:11,960
Speaker 3: But for the most part, Oregon Texas Tech wasn't close,

1706
01:30:12,400 --> 01:30:15,599
Speaker 3: and then Indiana Oregon was even more of a blood bath.

1707
01:30:16,280 --> 01:30:21,559
Speaker 3: Like these games have already, Yeah, like these games already

1708
01:30:21,600 --> 01:30:25,799
Speaker 3: haven't been good enough. If anything has been proven already,

1709
01:30:26,760 --> 01:30:30,559
Speaker 3: there aren't twelve teams worthy of making the playoffs. So

1710
01:30:30,640 --> 01:30:33,240
Speaker 3: they're sure as hell ain't going to be sixteen teams

1711
01:30:33,240 --> 01:30:34,719
Speaker 3: worthy enough of making the playoffs.

1712
01:30:34,720 --> 01:30:37,960
Speaker 5: And that's my point, like, if you're going to expand it, well,

1713
01:30:37,960 --> 01:30:41,280
Speaker 5: there needs to be some set of rules that balance

1714
01:30:41,360 --> 01:30:44,800
Speaker 5: the power, because if not, it is going to be

1715
01:30:44,960 --> 01:30:48,200
Speaker 5: a top heavy tournament every single year where there are

1716
01:30:48,320 --> 01:30:50,880
Speaker 5: one or two or three teams that are legitimate national

1717
01:30:50,920 --> 01:30:53,439
Speaker 5: title contenders and a bunch of other teams that are

1718
01:30:53,439 --> 01:30:56,040
Speaker 5: happy to collect their their check and are going to

1719
01:30:56,120 --> 01:30:56,639
Speaker 5: get bounced.

1720
01:30:56,800 --> 01:30:57,240
Speaker 4: Correct.

1721
01:30:57,479 --> 01:31:00,040
Speaker 5: Whereas if there is a salary cap, if there's a

1722
01:31:00,080 --> 01:31:03,160
Speaker 5: limit on transfers, if there's a limit on roster size,

1723
01:31:03,400 --> 01:31:08,360
Speaker 5: if there's activations, deactivations, injury reports, whatever, it might be

1724
01:31:08,560 --> 01:31:11,280
Speaker 5: something in a set of rules and somebody to govern

1725
01:31:11,360 --> 01:31:14,320
Speaker 5: that set of rules among this group of schools, so

1726
01:31:14,439 --> 01:31:17,240
Speaker 5: that when you get to the playoffs, it can actually

1727
01:31:17,280 --> 01:31:20,240
Speaker 5: be the best teams playing under the same set of rules,

1728
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Speaker 5: with the same amount of money or whatever it might be,

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01:31:23,200 --> 01:31:25,600
Speaker 5: so that you can actually crown what I feel like

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01:31:25,800 --> 01:31:27,599
Speaker 5: is a more legitimate champion.

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Speaker 3: Let me let me ask you this, because everything comes

1732
01:31:30,439 --> 01:31:34,599
Speaker 3: down to money. If if you take the forty eight million,

1733
01:31:34,640 --> 01:31:37,240
Speaker 3: divide into twelve teams, those playoff teams get four million each.

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01:31:38,360 --> 01:31:41,240
Speaker 3: If you divided that into twenty four, now the teams

1735
01:31:41,240 --> 01:31:43,360
Speaker 3: will only get two million, And I feel like teams say, okay,

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01:31:43,360 --> 01:31:43,920
Speaker 3: we don't want to.

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Speaker 5: Do that, so I would assume it would be doubled. Right,

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01:31:48,040 --> 01:31:49,680
Speaker 5: That's what I mean. Amount of money, That's what I mean.

1739
01:31:49,680 --> 01:31:51,280
Speaker 3: But if you just say, okay, we'll get we'll get

1740
01:31:51,320 --> 01:31:54,320
Speaker 3: to twenty four teams, but we're not increasing that pot

1741
01:31:54,360 --> 01:31:57,200
Speaker 3: of two forty eight million, then they say, okay, let's

1742
01:31:57,280 --> 01:31:59,840
Speaker 3: keep it at twelve. As long as the money's right

1743
01:32:00,000 --> 01:32:02,639
Speaker 3: and the money's there, you're going to constantly run into

1744
01:32:02,640 --> 01:32:08,280
Speaker 3: this problem. So there's a there's a lot there. We'll

1745
01:32:08,280 --> 01:32:10,680
Speaker 3: talk a little bit about Indiana and Miami here and

1746
01:32:10,760 --> 01:32:13,160
Speaker 3: our number three along with some Duke Tobin.

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01:32:13,320 --> 01:32:15,559
Speaker 5: I just I just want to know what about twenty

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01:32:15,560 --> 01:32:19,160
Speaker 5: four teams makes sense for the game of college football?

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01:32:19,479 --> 01:32:22,200
Speaker 4: Correct? I don't know the answer to that.

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01:32:22,320 --> 01:32:27,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, completely completely agree. Let's take a break, we'll come back.

1751
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Speaker 3: We'll grab phone calls five, one, three, seven, four, nine,

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Speaker 3: fifteen thirty. We'll get into our three next on the

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Speaker 3: Home of the Bengals, ESPN fifteen thirty, Cincinnati Sports Station.

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Speaker 1: This is Tony Pike since e three sixty about Cincinnati.

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01:32:42,560 --> 01:32:43,680
Speaker 2: From Cincinnati.

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01:32:43,880 --> 01:32:48,519
Speaker 1: This is ESPN fifteen thirty, Cincinnati Sports Station.

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01:32:51,120 --> 01:32:54,719
Speaker 3: Our number three since e three sixty, ESPN fifteen thirty

1758
01:32:54,720 --> 01:32:58,920
Speaker 3: Cincinnati Sports Station. We've got some more in the college

1759
01:32:58,960 --> 01:33:01,719
Speaker 3: football playoff. We've got some Bengals. We've got your phone calls.

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01:33:01,720 --> 01:33:05,840
Speaker 3: There's also this Austin. How about Brooks Koepka. Have you

1761
01:33:05,880 --> 01:33:09,400
Speaker 3: seen this? I have back to the PGA tour.

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01:33:09,720 --> 01:33:11,600
Speaker 5: Has that been Has it been approved?

1763
01:33:11,720 --> 01:33:14,960
Speaker 3: So he's he's going to play in the Farmers in

1764
01:33:15,000 --> 01:33:19,759
Speaker 3: the waste management. He is back immediately with a penalty

1765
01:33:20,640 --> 01:33:24,200
Speaker 3: five million dollar charitable donation he's got to make. He

1766
01:33:24,280 --> 01:33:27,880
Speaker 3: is ineligible for the player's equity program for five years.

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01:33:28,080 --> 01:33:30,519
Speaker 3: What does that mean? It's essentially he's losing out on

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Speaker 3: the possibility of about fifty to eighty million. It says

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Speaker 3: ineligible for the twenty twenty six FEDEC Cup bonus payout.

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Speaker 3: He is eligible for the President's Cup and the Tiger

1771
01:33:42,600 --> 01:33:48,040
Speaker 3: Golf League. This is called the returning Membership policy, so

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01:33:48,080 --> 01:33:50,280
Speaker 3: it applies to players who have won a major or

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01:33:50,320 --> 01:33:53,799
Speaker 3: players Championship since twenty twenty two. So think of Kopka,

1774
01:33:54,320 --> 01:33:58,639
Speaker 3: think of John Rahm, think of Bryson Deshambo. This is now,

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Speaker 3: I think the first in many Austin that we'll see

1776
01:34:01,600 --> 01:34:05,280
Speaker 3: in the golf world of those live golfers getting their

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01:34:05,320 --> 01:34:05,840
Speaker 3: way back.

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Speaker 4: To the PGA Tour.

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Speaker 5: Interesting, So that's what they are really cracking down financially.

1780
01:34:13,160 --> 01:34:19,760
Speaker 5: So let's say, like Koepka and Rom and Bryson, like

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01:34:19,800 --> 01:34:22,000
Speaker 5: all those guys, all of a sudden they want to return,

1782
01:34:22,640 --> 01:34:25,559
Speaker 5: and let's say they want to do it right now, Okay,

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Speaker 5: welcome back. They're going to save so much money. The

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01:34:30,160 --> 01:34:35,640
Speaker 5: PGA will save so much money on that. That's uh.

1785
01:34:35,920 --> 01:34:39,120
Speaker 5: They literally built that just for the live returners, right, correct,

1786
01:34:39,720 --> 01:34:43,559
Speaker 5: that's correct. So I like Brooks, I'm glad he's coming back.

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Speaker 3: I don't know what that means as far as like

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Speaker 3: to live payouts, Like do they still get all that money?

1789
01:34:48,040 --> 01:34:48,920
Speaker 3: Was it guaranteed?

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Speaker 7: That?

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Speaker 28: All?

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Speaker 4: To me is is fascinating, But uh yeah, a little

1793
01:34:53,320 --> 01:34:54,200
Speaker 4: news in the golf world.

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01:34:54,960 --> 01:34:57,920
Speaker 5: Obviously it's worth it to Brooks to go through all

1795
01:34:57,960 --> 01:34:58,639
Speaker 5: that to come back.

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01:34:59,080 --> 01:34:59,880
Speaker 4: Let's uh, let's go.

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01:35:00,000 --> 01:35:01,880
Speaker 3: Do I have a call here from Jason on the

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Speaker 3: college football playoff expansion.

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Speaker 4: Then we'll talk some bangles as well. What's up, Jason?

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Speaker 6: Hey, what's up? Guys?

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Speaker 4: How you doing good? How are you?

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01:35:09,920 --> 01:35:11,320
Speaker 6: I'm good. Great to have you back.

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Speaker 2: By the way, mind boggling move on.

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Speaker 6: iHeartRadio's part in the first place, we'll tell you to

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01:35:15,760 --> 01:35:16,160
Speaker 6: have you back.

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Speaker 21: I had I just was listening to your guys recap

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Speaker 21: of the potential to add more teams to the football playoffs,

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01:35:23,080 --> 01:35:25,160
Speaker 21: and I mean, I agree with you.

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Speaker 6: The points you're making are obvious.

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Speaker 21: But when you're describing, you know, a limited field of

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01:35:30,000 --> 01:35:33,240
Speaker 21: teams that can actually win dilution of field, et cetera,

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Speaker 21: et cetera, which you're really describing as the NCAA Men's

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Speaker 21: basketball Championship, which has a ton of teams that have

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Speaker 21: no chance to win the championship, but everybody loves it.

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Speaker 21: So I'm curious if you guys got to start the

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Speaker 21: men's tournament over again, how many teams would you have?

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Speaker 6: Thanks to you, I.

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Speaker 3: Appreciate it, Jason. Now see, I think basketball is a

1819
01:35:51,720 --> 01:35:55,240
Speaker 3: little different Austin because you do see those Cinderella runs. Yeah,

1820
01:35:55,479 --> 01:35:57,439
Speaker 3: you do see teams that make the Final four or

1821
01:35:57,479 --> 01:35:58,120
Speaker 3: the Elite eight.

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01:35:58,479 --> 01:35:58,679
Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: And I think basketball and ill itself is a sport

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01:36:01,479 --> 01:36:06,920
Speaker 5: in which it lends itself up to those upsets because

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01:36:07,360 --> 01:36:11,840
Speaker 5: there's not always a huge physical disadvantage like there is

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Speaker 5: in football. And so you know, I think basketball, just

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01:36:15,840 --> 01:36:18,439
Speaker 5: in and of itself, teams have a better chance of

1828
01:36:18,760 --> 01:36:22,639
Speaker 5: an upset. And then obviously going on that Cinderella type run. Now,

1829
01:36:22,720 --> 01:36:24,800
Speaker 5: is it gonna be like that with the portal? Now,

1830
01:36:24,880 --> 01:36:28,080
Speaker 5: we haven't seen that since the portal has become popular.

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01:36:28,120 --> 01:36:30,920
Speaker 5: So I don't know, but I think right now there's

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01:36:30,960 --> 01:36:33,760
Speaker 5: already too many teams in the NCAA Tournament. I know

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01:36:33,800 --> 01:36:35,479
Speaker 5: a lot of people think it's perfect and they love

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01:36:35,479 --> 01:36:37,479
Speaker 5: it and like it's their favorite thing. That's cool. I

1835
01:36:37,520 --> 01:36:41,000
Speaker 5: have no problem with that belief. I think, like and

1836
01:36:41,520 --> 01:36:43,240
Speaker 5: I go to the first four every year in Dayton.

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Speaker 5: I think it's fun. Those games aren't really necessary, sure,

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01:36:47,000 --> 01:36:53,240
Speaker 5: and I think maybe there's eight eight less teams. If

1839
01:36:53,240 --> 01:36:56,000
Speaker 5: you just eliminate that opening round, I think that would

1840
01:36:56,040 --> 01:36:56,960
Speaker 5: make the tournament better.

1841
01:36:58,320 --> 01:36:58,960
Speaker 4: I think it is.

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01:36:59,120 --> 01:37:02,080
Speaker 3: Uh, it's fascinating for conversation, but I do think there's

1843
01:37:02,120 --> 01:37:05,040
Speaker 3: a difference in the college football field and the NC

1844
01:37:05,720 --> 01:37:07,080
Speaker 3: double A March Madness field.

1845
01:37:07,080 --> 01:37:10,559
Speaker 5: Do you have an answer to his question on how

1846
01:37:10,600 --> 01:37:12,320
Speaker 5: many teams would you put in the NC DOT?

1847
01:37:12,439 --> 01:37:15,080
Speaker 3: I don't mind what it is now. I don't mind.

1848
01:37:15,120 --> 01:37:18,439
Speaker 3: I'm I'm against any further expansion of the college basketball

1849
01:37:18,520 --> 01:37:20,200
Speaker 3: teram I think that's going to happen too. Yeah, and

1850
01:37:20,240 --> 01:37:22,640
Speaker 3: that comes from a person who is dying to get

1851
01:37:22,680 --> 01:37:23,479
Speaker 3: their team back in the day.

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Speaker 5: I think if they expanded it by fifteen or twenty

1853
01:37:26,280 --> 01:37:28,160
Speaker 5: teams this year, the cat still wouldn't get in.

1854
01:37:28,320 --> 01:37:31,479
Speaker 3: No gos, no no chance. But they are like three

1855
01:37:31,600 --> 01:37:33,639
Speaker 3: hundred and sixty fifth on Ken Palm and Luck rating.

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Speaker 4: So there's that Oh.

1857
01:37:34,520 --> 01:37:36,479
Speaker 5: Wow, Okay, don't let Duke get a hold of that

1858
01:37:36,600 --> 01:37:40,000
Speaker 5: bad old Tobes bad luck real quick.

1859
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Speaker 3: On the college football playoff itself, I find myself, Austin,

1860
01:37:46,760 --> 01:37:48,960
Speaker 3: I feel like I've waited on the downfall of Indiana.

1861
01:37:49,000 --> 01:37:49,920
Speaker 4: It's just not going to come.

1862
01:37:50,920 --> 01:37:55,080
Speaker 3: I kept thinking Oregon second time around, defense playing better.

1863
01:37:55,840 --> 01:37:59,280
Speaker 4: It's just not the case that it's just a It's.

1864
01:37:59,160 --> 01:38:03,240
Speaker 3: A complete football team with a quarterback who is extremely accurate.

1865
01:38:04,840 --> 01:38:06,760
Speaker 3: I don't know how they could lose in the title

1866
01:38:06,840 --> 01:38:09,719
Speaker 3: game with as dominant as they are, and how they've

1867
01:38:09,760 --> 01:38:12,919
Speaker 3: handled noise and how they've handled being in these environments

1868
01:38:12,960 --> 01:38:17,240
Speaker 3: for the first time as an institution. But very simply put,

1869
01:38:17,960 --> 01:38:20,080
Speaker 3: I can't say a bad thing about Kurt Signetti and

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01:38:20,120 --> 01:38:24,439
Speaker 3: what he's built in Indiana. That's just I keep waiting.

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Speaker 3: I kept thinking they would stumble or they would stub

1872
01:38:27,439 --> 01:38:30,120
Speaker 3: their toe, and they seemingly just get stronger. I mean,

1873
01:38:30,160 --> 01:38:34,200
Speaker 3: we're now on the cusp Boston of talking about one

1874
01:38:34,240 --> 01:38:38,120
Speaker 3: of the greatest title runs in the history of college football. Sure,

1875
01:38:38,760 --> 01:38:41,040
Speaker 3: the way in which they dominate thirty eight to three

1876
01:38:41,080 --> 01:38:44,800
Speaker 3: against Bama, fifty six to twenty two against Oregan, I mean,

1877
01:38:44,840 --> 01:38:47,960
Speaker 3: we're getting into the Joe Burrow LSU stratosphere right now

1878
01:38:48,960 --> 01:38:53,120
Speaker 3: of how dominant they've been throughout a college football season. Yeah,

1879
01:38:53,160 --> 01:38:56,000
Speaker 3: what do you make of the we have a full

1880
01:38:56,040 --> 01:38:57,080
Speaker 3: week to talk about this.

1881
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Speaker 5: What do you make of the early matchup with Miami

1882
01:39:00,520 --> 01:39:04,920
Speaker 5: eight and a half point favorites are Indiana. I still

1883
01:39:04,960 --> 01:39:08,919
Speaker 5: have a lot of respect for the front seven of Miami,

1884
01:39:09,479 --> 01:39:14,800
Speaker 5: and I just am waiting for somebody to spook Fernando Mendoza,

1885
01:39:14,920 --> 01:39:16,320
Speaker 5: but it just hasn't happened yet.

1886
01:39:16,360 --> 01:39:16,599
Speaker 4: Really.

1887
01:39:16,600 --> 01:39:18,000
Speaker 5: I mean, even if you go back to the Big Ten

1888
01:39:18,080 --> 01:39:21,800
Speaker 5: Championship game, first play of the game, Ohio State leveled him,

1889
01:39:22,080 --> 01:39:24,240
Speaker 5: sent him to the sidelines, tried to send a message

1890
01:39:24,280 --> 01:39:26,840
Speaker 5: that dude just came back and started throwing dimes. So

1891
01:39:27,120 --> 01:39:30,040
Speaker 5: I don't know if it's possible to get inside his

1892
01:39:30,040 --> 01:39:32,280
Speaker 5: head at all and you know, get him to see

1893
01:39:32,360 --> 01:39:34,200
Speaker 5: ghosts or get him off his spot or whatever it

1894
01:39:34,280 --> 01:39:37,160
Speaker 5: might be. I feel like Miami would be the team

1895
01:39:37,160 --> 01:39:39,280
Speaker 5: with the best shot to do that, obviously, just because

1896
01:39:39,320 --> 01:39:42,120
Speaker 5: of how good they are up front. But I'm at

1897
01:39:42,120 --> 01:39:44,640
Speaker 5: the point now where it feels like Indiana is inevitable.

1898
01:39:45,240 --> 01:39:49,759
Speaker 3: Austin in the college football playoff games against Alabama and Oregon,

1899
01:39:50,520 --> 01:39:54,040
Speaker 3: he is combined to throw eight touchdowns, no interceptions, and

1900
01:39:54,160 --> 01:39:59,920
Speaker 3: five incomplete passes fourteen of sixteen, third seventeen of twenty,

1901
01:40:00,840 --> 01:40:02,920
Speaker 3: and like he doesn't have like the sexy number like

1902
01:40:03,120 --> 01:40:05,240
Speaker 3: one hundred and seventy seven yards one hundred and ninety

1903
01:40:05,240 --> 01:40:07,519
Speaker 3: two yards. But he's exactly who they asked him to be.

1904
01:40:09,000 --> 01:40:13,960
Speaker 3: He is just impressive on every single level. Knows when

1905
01:40:14,000 --> 01:40:16,040
Speaker 3: to not fit a ball in, knows when to just

1906
01:40:16,080 --> 01:40:18,320
Speaker 3: take a sack, knows when to move on to the

1907
01:40:18,360 --> 01:40:22,360
Speaker 3: next play. Just an unbelievable job. And the coaching job

1908
01:40:22,400 --> 01:40:26,720
Speaker 3: that's been done with Signetti and Indiana is it's absolutely

1909
01:40:26,760 --> 01:40:30,639
Speaker 3: remarkable and it's fun to watch. Let's shift our gears.

1910
01:40:31,640 --> 01:40:33,280
Speaker 3: I want to get into some Duke Tobin and some

1911
01:40:33,280 --> 01:40:36,120
Speaker 3: Bengals conversation. Before we do that, let's cross these two

1912
01:40:36,200 --> 01:40:41,679
Speaker 3: calls off here as well. Paul first is calling, what's up, Paul.

1913
01:40:43,360 --> 01:40:44,519
Speaker 6: Hey, Good afternoon, guys.

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Speaker 11: Appreciate you taking my call.

1915
01:40:45,880 --> 01:40:50,120
Speaker 7: Yes, sir, Hey working from home today, and it gave

1916
01:40:50,200 --> 01:40:53,360
Speaker 7: me the chance to put the TV onto some of

1917
01:40:53,400 --> 01:40:58,080
Speaker 7: the ESPN talk shows in the morning and talking about

1918
01:40:58,080 --> 01:41:01,080
Speaker 7: the Eagles lost yesterday and change that should happen and

1919
01:41:01,160 --> 01:41:02,480
Speaker 7: probably will happen.

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Speaker 11: Within their organization. And you know, the Eagles won the

1921
01:41:06,280 --> 01:41:09,160
Speaker 11: Super Bowl last year, they won their division this year

1922
01:41:09,920 --> 01:41:12,040
Speaker 11: but lost in the first round and now they're certainly

1923
01:41:12,080 --> 01:41:14,920
Speaker 11: going to make changes because the first round exit is

1924
01:41:14,960 --> 01:41:18,479
Speaker 11: not acceptable to them. And meanwhile, We've got Duke telling

1925
01:41:18,520 --> 01:41:21,120
Speaker 11: the stand base that we've got a championship team despite

1926
01:41:21,120 --> 01:41:23,160
Speaker 11: the fact we haven't made the playoffs in three years.

1927
01:41:24,680 --> 01:41:28,680
Speaker 11: I think Austin always talked about the relentless pursuit of

1928
01:41:28,680 --> 01:41:31,439
Speaker 11: a championship, and I don't think the contract could be

1929
01:41:31,840 --> 01:41:36,200
Speaker 11: more clear between the two organizations. You got one that's

1930
01:41:36,240 --> 01:41:38,040
Speaker 11: going to hold itself to that standard and the other

1931
01:41:38,120 --> 01:41:41,160
Speaker 11: that's trying to sell us optimism without any results. So

1932
01:41:42,600 --> 01:41:45,519
Speaker 11: I think that gap is why one team's going to

1933
01:41:45,640 --> 01:41:48,519
Speaker 11: keep competing for titles and you know we're hoping we

1934
01:41:48,600 --> 01:41:49,120
Speaker 11: get lucky.

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Speaker 6: So appreciate you taking my call.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Paul, I appreciate that. Austin I sums it up perfectly.

1937
01:41:55,160 --> 01:42:00,439
Speaker 3: It does man like when you watch at the we

1938
01:42:00,640 --> 01:42:03,120
Speaker 3: use the term a lot the urgency in which a

1939
01:42:03,160 --> 01:42:07,559
Speaker 3: lot of organizations are operating with of Look, they're not

1940
01:42:07,720 --> 01:42:09,639
Speaker 3: resting on a time. I mean, we're talking about Philly,

1941
01:42:09,760 --> 01:42:11,920
Speaker 3: who won it all last year, not even a year ago,

1942
01:42:12,760 --> 01:42:15,920
Speaker 3: talking about making changes in Philly. There were rumblings with

1943
01:42:15,960 --> 01:42:19,439
Speaker 3: Mount Lafleur in Green Bay. Harball has been like there

1944
01:42:19,479 --> 01:42:24,519
Speaker 3: are teams that do not rest on past success of

1945
01:42:24,560 --> 01:42:27,680
Speaker 3: the organization and on the complete other side of this,

1946
01:42:27,800 --> 01:42:30,720
Speaker 3: Austin Duke Tobin on Friday and got up there and

1947
01:42:30,800 --> 01:42:33,840
Speaker 3: talked like they have put winning rosters together for eight

1948
01:42:33,840 --> 01:42:35,720
Speaker 3: out of the last ten years in Cincinnati, when in

1949
01:42:35,760 --> 01:42:37,320
Speaker 3: reality it's been two out of ten years.

1950
01:42:37,439 --> 01:42:39,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think, you know, with Paul's comparison to the

1951
01:42:40,000 --> 01:42:43,439
Speaker 5: Bengals and the Eagles, the Eagles are the standard across

1952
01:42:43,439 --> 01:42:48,000
Speaker 5: the National Football League in aggressiveness in draft and developing,

1953
01:42:48,600 --> 01:42:55,360
Speaker 5: in player acquisition in draft, pick maneuvering in contract, the

1954
01:42:55,400 --> 01:43:00,320
Speaker 5: way that they structure their contracts like the Eagles, and

1955
01:43:00,320 --> 01:43:02,120
Speaker 5: and I think part of it is because it is

1956
01:43:02,160 --> 01:43:05,200
Speaker 5: demanded of them by their fan base. And they also

1957
01:43:05,280 --> 01:43:07,720
Speaker 5: have a lot of people in the room that have

1958
01:43:08,000 --> 01:43:12,040
Speaker 5: outside the box thinking and ideas and are willing to

1959
01:43:12,040 --> 01:43:15,120
Speaker 5: find the loopholes in the different ways of doing things.

1960
01:43:15,160 --> 01:43:19,000
Speaker 5: The Eagles are the standard of how to operate a

1961
01:43:19,080 --> 01:43:21,439
Speaker 5: day to day franchise. They've been able to do it

1962
01:43:21,479 --> 01:43:23,920
Speaker 5: with Jalen Hurts, who many people would consider to be

1963
01:43:24,160 --> 01:43:27,240
Speaker 5: a good quarterback, not the best of the best quarterback

1964
01:43:27,280 --> 01:43:31,479
Speaker 5: and once luckily for them yesterday, notwithstanding, when they've gotten

1965
01:43:31,520 --> 01:43:33,720
Speaker 5: to the postseason, Hurts has been lights out. I mean

1966
01:43:33,760 --> 01:43:36,120
Speaker 5: he's been unbelievable in both Super Bowls that they've played

1967
01:43:36,120 --> 01:43:38,839
Speaker 5: in and most of the time on their runs. Meanwhile,

1968
01:43:38,880 --> 01:43:42,880
Speaker 5: the Bengals, I think they have a plan that they like,

1969
01:43:43,439 --> 01:43:45,519
Speaker 5: They have a group that they like, they have a

1970
01:43:45,520 --> 01:43:49,080
Speaker 5: belief that they like, and their whole plant feels like

1971
01:43:49,120 --> 01:43:51,000
Speaker 5: he is. Hey, if we can just get to the playoffs,

1972
01:43:51,160 --> 01:43:54,240
Speaker 5: brow Burrow will do the rest. And that's not a

1973
01:43:54,240 --> 01:43:54,960
Speaker 5: good enough plan.

1974
01:43:55,120 --> 01:43:55,360
Speaker 18: M h.

1975
01:43:57,240 --> 01:43:58,760
Speaker 3: It is a lot of what I had wrong in

1976
01:43:58,800 --> 01:44:01,080
Speaker 3: what Duke Tobin had to say. Froddy will expand on

1977
01:44:01,120 --> 01:44:04,240
Speaker 3: that in just a few minutes. Here Reid is also

1978
01:44:04,320 --> 01:44:05,120
Speaker 3: calling him, what's up?

1979
01:44:05,120 --> 01:44:08,160
Speaker 4: Reed? Hey, how you going good?

1980
01:44:08,520 --> 01:44:10,800
Speaker 6: A fellow routing boy here?

1981
01:44:11,000 --> 01:44:17,160
Speaker 14: Okay, Hey, TP, don't let don't let TP claim that

1982
01:44:17,200 --> 01:44:18,800
Speaker 14: he wouldn't he was.

1983
01:44:19,320 --> 01:44:20,280
Speaker 6: He was the truth.

1984
01:44:20,720 --> 01:44:24,920
Speaker 14: I got three jerseys still sitting that I wear.

1985
01:44:26,280 --> 01:44:29,000
Speaker 6: Because he Hey, he was a real deal.

1986
01:44:29,200 --> 01:44:30,559
Speaker 4: Let's go now love.

1987
01:44:30,400 --> 01:44:34,519
Speaker 14: It to flip back to the Bengals, man, Hey, coaching

1988
01:44:34,600 --> 01:44:35,799
Speaker 14: matters in the NFL.

1989
01:44:36,840 --> 01:44:37,439
Speaker 6: Y'all know this.

1990
01:44:38,800 --> 01:44:39,479
Speaker 10: You know what I'm saying.

1991
01:44:39,960 --> 01:44:43,200
Speaker 14: The disparity and talent ain't that much in the NFL.

1992
01:44:43,360 --> 01:44:44,040
Speaker 14: You know what I'm saying.

1993
01:44:44,240 --> 01:44:47,759
Speaker 23: We bring back every coach though you know what I'm saying,

1994
01:44:48,520 --> 01:44:52,320
Speaker 23: Like it's just a never ending story in the city.

1995
01:44:52,920 --> 01:44:55,120
Speaker 23: We can go into college, you know what I'm saying.

1996
01:44:55,800 --> 01:44:57,200
Speaker 23: I know y'all work for the.

1997
01:44:57,160 --> 01:45:04,160
Speaker 14: Bengals, work for Tony, you played for the Bearcats. But

1998
01:45:05,000 --> 01:45:10,320
Speaker 14: I mean, some's gotta change, Like coaching matters. It's in

1999
01:45:10,320 --> 01:45:16,680
Speaker 14: the NFL, and I didn't play the sport, but we

2000
01:45:16,760 --> 01:45:18,200
Speaker 14: needed to make a change.

2001
01:45:18,880 --> 01:45:21,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, read, I appreciate you, man, thank you for listening,

2002
01:45:21,240 --> 01:45:25,840
Speaker 3: thank you for calling in. But yeah, I think that's

2003
01:45:25,840 --> 01:45:31,160
Speaker 3: a good place to break for now with the Blase Blase.

2004
01:45:32,400 --> 01:45:36,200
Speaker 3: We're gonna take a break. Let's let's come back here, Austin.

2005
01:45:36,240 --> 01:45:40,120
Speaker 3: Let's talk about and I and I do listen. Coaching matters.

2006
01:45:40,200 --> 01:45:44,280
Speaker 3: We've said that for a while here. I can also say,

2007
01:45:44,280 --> 01:45:45,799
Speaker 3: Austin that I don't work for the Bengals.

2008
01:45:46,160 --> 01:45:46,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, we don't.

2009
01:45:46,880 --> 01:45:49,920
Speaker 5: I used to, butore but it is.

2010
01:45:49,960 --> 01:45:54,080
Speaker 3: It's evident when you watch weekends like we just had

2011
01:45:54,920 --> 01:45:59,360
Speaker 3: that coaching can make the biggest difference. And it's part

2012
01:45:59,400 --> 01:46:02,439
Speaker 3: of the problem of what I've had in the early

2013
01:46:02,479 --> 01:46:04,840
Speaker 3: part of the offseason with the Bengals. We'll expand on

2014
01:46:04,880 --> 01:46:07,599
Speaker 3: that and some of our other thoughts on what Duke

2015
01:46:07,640 --> 01:46:11,040
Speaker 3: Tobin had to say Friday, when we return on ESPN

2016
01:46:11,080 --> 01:46:29,200
Speaker 3: fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station, Now here's your chance, all.

2017
01:46:22,160 --> 01:46:24,320
Speaker 4: Right, here we go, welcome back.

2018
01:46:25,080 --> 01:46:29,280
Speaker 3: Since he three p sixty ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station.

2019
01:46:29,880 --> 01:46:32,400
Speaker 3: Always good to Austin to go into a break and

2020
01:46:32,479 --> 01:46:34,599
Speaker 3: then see social media light up and know that people

2021
01:46:34,600 --> 01:46:38,640
Speaker 3: in fact are listening. Yeah, just saying, it's kind of

2022
01:46:38,680 --> 01:46:40,439
Speaker 3: what it is. If you know what I'm saying here,

2023
01:46:40,479 --> 01:46:42,000
Speaker 3: I know what you're saying, you know what I'm saying.

2024
01:46:43,240 --> 01:46:45,320
Speaker 3: I still don't know if I know what Duke Tobin

2025
01:46:45,400 --> 01:46:45,679
Speaker 3: was saying.

2026
01:46:45,680 --> 01:46:50,120
Speaker 5: If you know what I'm saying, I think Duke knew

2027
01:46:50,120 --> 01:46:50,840
Speaker 5: what he was saying.

2028
01:46:50,960 --> 01:46:54,040
Speaker 3: Let me do this and I'll keep it shorter, Duke.

2029
01:46:55,680 --> 01:47:00,759
Speaker 3: I think one of the biggest issues that I've had

2030
01:47:01,200 --> 01:47:04,679
Speaker 3: with the Bengals offseason thus far has been how quick

2031
01:47:04,760 --> 01:47:08,000
Speaker 3: they have been to make announcements and act on things.

2032
01:47:09,000 --> 01:47:14,479
Speaker 3: The announcement to immediately bring back Zach Taylor and Duke Tobin,

2033
01:47:15,280 --> 01:47:16,800
Speaker 3: I thought was a little premature.

2034
01:47:18,000 --> 01:47:18,920
Speaker 4: I thought it would have.

2035
01:47:20,680 --> 01:47:24,479
Speaker 3: Went over better if they had come out and said

2036
01:47:25,560 --> 01:47:29,200
Speaker 3: that the current state of where this organization is is

2037
01:47:29,240 --> 01:47:33,280
Speaker 3: not good enough. Missing the playoffs eight out of ten

2038
01:47:33,360 --> 01:47:36,920
Speaker 3: years is not good enough, and we are going to

2039
01:47:37,000 --> 01:47:42,800
Speaker 3: evaluate the positions we need to make sure that we

2040
01:47:42,880 --> 01:47:46,479
Speaker 3: get this right. That doesn't necessarily mean that you're moving

2041
01:47:46,560 --> 01:47:48,840
Speaker 3: on from Duke Tobin or Zach Taylor, but you're just

2042
01:47:48,920 --> 01:47:52,040
Speaker 3: going to make sure that you are doing your due diligence.

2043
01:47:52,920 --> 01:47:55,720
Speaker 3: And I would argue the same thing regardless of what

2044
01:47:55,800 --> 01:47:58,280
Speaker 3: you thought of what Duke Tobin said. And I get

2045
01:47:58,320 --> 01:48:00,439
Speaker 3: playing things close to the vest and don't want to

2046
01:48:00,479 --> 01:48:03,439
Speaker 3: open up and just give the blueprint to the idea

2047
01:48:03,479 --> 01:48:05,439
Speaker 3: that you had going forward. But what I heard from

2048
01:48:05,520 --> 01:48:09,679
Speaker 3: Duke Tobin was too much austen of we've done this before,

2049
01:48:09,720 --> 01:48:12,680
Speaker 3: we know how to get it right, and not hey,

2050
01:48:12,760 --> 01:48:15,960
Speaker 3: we've made mistakes. I felt like it was too much

2051
01:48:16,000 --> 01:48:18,680
Speaker 3: of a victory lap at times of you know, look

2052
01:48:18,720 --> 01:48:21,760
Speaker 3: what I did with Joe Flacco. We've spent a lot

2053
01:48:21,760 --> 01:48:24,160
Speaker 3: of money on Joe Burrow and Jamar Chase, so there's

2054
01:48:24,200 --> 01:48:25,800
Speaker 3: some things that come and go with that, and we've

2055
01:48:25,840 --> 01:48:28,400
Speaker 3: dealt with injuries, and all I heard was more excuses.

2056
01:48:29,720 --> 01:48:32,799
Speaker 3: And the pushback that I've seen more than not about

2057
01:48:33,240 --> 01:48:36,080
Speaker 3: Duke's responses was it doesn't seem like there's a plan

2058
01:48:36,600 --> 01:48:38,639
Speaker 3: on how they're going to get it right. We've asked

2059
01:48:38,640 --> 01:48:41,240
Speaker 3: the question multiple times already. Even though what I'm saying,

2060
01:48:43,600 --> 01:48:46,439
Speaker 3: what does the offseason? What's going to change? Duke Tobin

2061
01:48:46,479 --> 01:48:49,320
Speaker 3: and Zach Taylor are back, the scouting staff is going

2062
01:48:49,400 --> 01:48:52,439
Speaker 3: to remain what it is. What's going to be different.

2063
01:48:53,040 --> 01:48:57,080
Speaker 3: We've not been given an answer. We've not been given

2064
01:48:57,479 --> 01:49:02,280
Speaker 3: anything except we've done this four and so what I

2065
01:49:02,320 --> 01:49:05,120
Speaker 3: get out of Duke Tobin talking is they're resting more

2066
01:49:05,160 --> 01:49:07,960
Speaker 3: on we went to a super Bowl in an AFC

2067
01:49:08,000 --> 01:49:10,880
Speaker 3: title game and back to back years, and not the

2068
01:49:10,920 --> 01:49:13,920
Speaker 3: bigger picture of three straight years missing the playoffs and

2069
01:49:14,000 --> 01:49:16,120
Speaker 3: not making the postseason an eight out of the last

2070
01:49:16,160 --> 01:49:19,960
Speaker 3: ten years with this organization. What I wanted Duke Tobin

2071
01:49:20,240 --> 01:49:24,719
Speaker 3: to say very simply put, what's going to be different?

2072
01:49:25,320 --> 01:49:25,680
Speaker 4: You know what?

2073
01:49:25,800 --> 01:49:29,040
Speaker 3: To be honest, I don't have the answer yet, but

2074
01:49:29,160 --> 01:49:32,720
Speaker 3: we are exhausting every means necessary, whether that is our

2075
01:49:32,760 --> 01:49:36,640
Speaker 3: research department, our scouting department, how we approach the offseason.

2076
01:49:37,040 --> 01:49:40,880
Speaker 3: We are going through every possible scenario to figure out

2077
01:49:40,920 --> 01:49:43,439
Speaker 3: why we've not got it right, and we are not

2078
01:49:43,600 --> 01:49:46,200
Speaker 3: going to rest until we do. We are going to

2079
01:49:46,240 --> 01:49:50,200
Speaker 3: work tires tirelessly to make sure that the product that

2080
01:49:50,200 --> 01:49:51,920
Speaker 3: has been on the field the last three years is

2081
01:49:51,960 --> 01:49:54,200
Speaker 3: not what we're putting out there next year. That we're

2082
01:49:54,200 --> 01:49:58,080
Speaker 3: not in a situation next offseason where the regular season

2083
01:49:58,160 --> 01:50:00,320
Speaker 3: ends and more on the outside looking in, and we're

2084
01:50:00,360 --> 01:50:02,320
Speaker 3: going to do everything in our power to make sure

2085
01:50:02,320 --> 01:50:04,000
Speaker 3: that it gets right. I don't have the answer to

2086
01:50:04,040 --> 01:50:06,120
Speaker 3: what it is right now, but I guarantee you we

2087
01:50:06,160 --> 01:50:10,200
Speaker 3: will have the answer. That's all I wanted. Instead we

2088
01:50:10,280 --> 01:50:14,160
Speaker 3: got We've done it before, we'll do it again. The

2089
01:50:14,200 --> 01:50:17,320
Speaker 3: way in which that came across Austin, at least the

2090
01:50:17,360 --> 01:50:20,040
Speaker 3: response that I've talked to folks about is what's rubbing

2091
01:50:20,040 --> 01:50:20,840
Speaker 3: people the wrong way.

2092
01:50:21,120 --> 01:50:24,439
Speaker 5: I think you know when you outline it the way

2093
01:50:24,479 --> 01:50:28,920
Speaker 5: you just did as a potential answer, what that does

2094
01:50:29,560 --> 01:50:34,240
Speaker 5: is invites accountability. If Duke Tobin says we are going

2095
01:50:34,320 --> 01:50:36,240
Speaker 5: to exhaust every avenue and we're going to find what

2096
01:50:36,280 --> 01:50:38,720
Speaker 5: went wrong and we're going to fix it, well, that

2097
01:50:38,760 --> 01:50:41,200
Speaker 5: puts him in a position too. If he doesn't, he's

2098
01:50:41,240 --> 01:50:44,240
Speaker 5: going to have to answer for that. And so he

2099
01:50:44,280 --> 01:50:48,280
Speaker 5: doesn't say something like that because to me, it is

2100
01:50:48,360 --> 01:50:52,800
Speaker 5: him avoiding accountability, much like he's avoided accountability by not

2101
01:50:52,920 --> 01:50:56,640
Speaker 5: meeting with the media in years past. I have questions

2102
01:50:57,240 --> 01:51:00,920
Speaker 5: about Duke Tobin and about Duke Tobin's character. I don't

2103
01:51:00,960 --> 01:51:03,599
Speaker 5: know him, but it just the way he came off

2104
01:51:03,640 --> 01:51:05,679
Speaker 5: in that press conference and the way that I've heard

2105
01:51:05,760 --> 01:51:08,200
Speaker 5: you know, how he is at times makes me wonder

2106
01:51:08,920 --> 01:51:12,479
Speaker 5: you know about his character and then you know, I

2107
01:51:12,520 --> 01:51:16,640
Speaker 5: think there was a pretty high level of arrogance in

2108
01:51:16,720 --> 01:51:21,320
Speaker 5: the answer about we have all the information we need.

2109
01:51:21,760 --> 01:51:23,840
Speaker 5: There has never been a time in which we were

2110
01:51:24,600 --> 01:51:29,400
Speaker 5: misinformed or uninformed about a prospect. My immediate follow up

2111
01:51:30,000 --> 01:51:33,679
Speaker 5: to that would have been, what about Jackson Carmen? Did

2112
01:51:33,720 --> 01:51:36,840
Speaker 5: you know that he was not a good worker, that

2113
01:51:36,920 --> 01:51:40,040
Speaker 5: he had a rape allegation against him prior to being drafted,

2114
01:51:40,640 --> 01:51:44,599
Speaker 5: and wasn't really well liked by his teammates? What about

2115
01:51:44,680 --> 01:51:48,800
Speaker 5: Jermaine Burton? Did you know about the pushing incident of

2116
01:51:48,840 --> 01:51:51,479
Speaker 5: a woman going off the field against Tennessee? Did you

2117
01:51:51,560 --> 01:51:54,240
Speaker 5: know about the stuff that he dealt with with Nick

2118
01:51:54,280 --> 01:51:58,840
Speaker 5: Saban in and out of football like that would have

2119
01:51:58,840 --> 01:52:01,240
Speaker 5: been my immediate follow up. And if so, why did

2120
01:52:01,280 --> 01:52:04,439
Speaker 5: you decide to draft those people? Yep, those would be

2121
01:52:04,520 --> 01:52:05,360
Speaker 5: my question.

2122
01:52:05,120 --> 01:52:07,320
Speaker 3: And my thing, like if you're gonna draft those people,

2123
01:52:07,840 --> 01:52:10,360
Speaker 3: they better sure as hell be hits and not missus

2124
01:52:10,880 --> 01:52:14,840
Speaker 3: h But I did it it to me, the more

2125
01:52:14,880 --> 01:52:17,080
Speaker 3: I thought about Friday, the more it came off to

2126
01:52:17,120 --> 01:52:20,720
Speaker 3: me as arrogant than anything else. What needs to change, Well,

2127
01:52:20,760 --> 01:52:23,920
Speaker 3: we need to win more. Talking about you know, thinking

2128
01:52:23,960 --> 01:52:26,120
Speaker 3: the team this year was good enough to win a title,

2129
01:52:26,439 --> 01:52:30,120
Speaker 3: There's no way Austin that Duke Tobin, with this roster

2130
01:52:30,200 --> 01:52:32,840
Speaker 3: and that defense can honestly say that team was a

2131
01:52:32,880 --> 01:52:33,639
Speaker 3: title contender.

2132
01:52:34,200 --> 01:52:38,240
Speaker 5: And saying something like that makes me feel like there

2133
01:52:38,400 --> 01:52:41,880
Speaker 5: is no reason to trust his evaluation of a player.

2134
01:52:41,960 --> 01:52:45,559
Speaker 3: Ever, that's my worry. He's in place, Zachson place, The

2135
01:52:45,600 --> 01:52:48,680
Speaker 3: staff's in place. Nothing is different except what we heard

2136
01:52:48,680 --> 01:52:51,320
Speaker 3: from Duke Tobin, which is just resting on what they've

2137
01:52:51,360 --> 01:52:52,639
Speaker 3: done in two out of ten years.

2138
01:52:52,680 --> 01:52:54,479
Speaker 5: I also would have liked to have an answer of

2139
01:52:55,080 --> 01:52:59,200
Speaker 5: you know, the guys that were switched from player personnel

2140
01:52:59,200 --> 01:53:01,800
Speaker 5: directors or college scouting directors or whatever and all given

2141
01:53:01,840 --> 01:53:05,720
Speaker 5: the title of assistant general manager. Okay, how exactly do

2142
01:53:05,800 --> 01:53:06,719
Speaker 5: their roles change?

2143
01:53:06,840 --> 01:53:06,960
Speaker 4: Right?

2144
01:53:07,360 --> 01:53:10,479
Speaker 5: What exactly is the difference? Who do they report to?

2145
01:53:11,320 --> 01:53:13,599
Speaker 5: Do they report to you? Do they report to Katie?

2146
01:53:13,600 --> 01:53:17,200
Speaker 5: Do they report to Mike, what exactly is the organizational

2147
01:53:17,240 --> 01:53:20,639
Speaker 5: structure And those questions were kind of asked, and Duke

2148
01:53:20,640 --> 01:53:23,080
Speaker 5: didn't really give much of an answer. I think what

2149
01:53:23,200 --> 01:53:26,240
Speaker 5: I liked about what he said was that I could

2150
01:53:26,439 --> 01:53:29,280
Speaker 5: I could feel that he cares, I could feel that

2151
01:53:29,360 --> 01:53:31,840
Speaker 5: he was angry. I could feel like he wanted he

2152
01:53:31,880 --> 01:53:34,040
Speaker 5: had some stuff he wanted to get off of his chest.

2153
01:53:35,280 --> 01:53:38,160
Speaker 5: But and I appreciate that because I think a lot

2154
01:53:38,160 --> 01:53:40,680
Speaker 5: of Bengals fans feel that way, and you should be

2155
01:53:40,760 --> 01:53:44,800
Speaker 5: angry when things don't go well. But at the same time,

2156
01:53:44,880 --> 01:53:46,920
Speaker 5: he talked out of both sides of his mouth. He

2157
01:53:46,920 --> 01:53:50,080
Speaker 5: would act like or he would say, all I think

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Speaker 5: about is winning championships and football is my whole life,

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01:53:52,479 --> 01:53:53,800
Speaker 5: and that's what I think about when I get out

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01:53:53,800 --> 01:53:57,400
Speaker 5: of bed in the morning. And then say, well, we

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01:53:57,560 --> 01:53:58,679
Speaker 5: just didn't finish games.

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01:53:58,720 --> 01:54:01,519
Speaker 4: He said he thought last year that they were a championship.

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01:54:01,000 --> 01:54:04,559
Speaker 5: Team, that we were a championship team, or it just

2164
01:54:04,640 --> 01:54:10,839
Speaker 5: felt like those two things weren't really aligned. And also

2165
01:54:11,680 --> 01:54:14,639
Speaker 5: when he was asked if he regrets not going after

2166
01:54:14,720 --> 01:54:18,439
Speaker 5: more free agents and didn't really give an answer, that like,

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01:54:18,680 --> 01:54:22,160
Speaker 5: it just felt like it was a little bit discombobulated.

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Speaker 4: Yep. I would completely completely agree.

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Speaker 5: I just wish like there was any sort of indication

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Speaker 5: of what the plan is going to be. I think

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01:54:33,080 --> 01:54:34,520
Speaker 5: we got a little bit of it when he was

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01:54:34,560 --> 01:54:37,280
Speaker 5: asked how many defensive starters do you need to replace?

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Speaker 5: And he wouldn't give a number, So that at least

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Speaker 5: makes me feel like, Okay, the number exists. I hope

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01:54:43,400 --> 01:54:46,480
Speaker 5: the number is not zero, but I think the number

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01:54:46,560 --> 01:54:49,280
Speaker 5: exists at least in their mind. And I get you

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Speaker 5: don't want to put it out there and lay out

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Speaker 5: your offseason plan for everybody because that does have a

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Speaker 5: negative effect and other teams can see that. I hear

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01:54:56,520 --> 01:55:01,440
Speaker 5: all that, but it just didn't feel like there was

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01:55:02,880 --> 01:55:07,720
Speaker 5: I didn't. Yeah, it didn't feel like there was really

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01:55:07,760 --> 01:55:10,640
Speaker 5: a lot of plan outside of, uh, we know how

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01:55:10,680 --> 01:55:13,240
Speaker 5: to do this because we've built this team before you close.

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01:55:13,360 --> 01:55:18,160
Speaker 5: It's more close, is what I heard. It's Zach said it.

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01:55:18,840 --> 01:55:21,920
Speaker 5: You want to talk about the collaborative approach. Zach said

2186
01:55:21,920 --> 01:55:25,040
Speaker 5: it multiple times as press conference. We've played for AFC titles,

2187
01:55:25,480 --> 01:55:27,240
Speaker 5: we went to the super Bowl, we won the division.

2188
01:55:27,800 --> 01:55:30,200
Speaker 5: Mike said it in his statement. They've gone to the

2189
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Speaker 5: AFC Championship and they've gone to the Super Bowl. Duke

2190
01:55:33,120 --> 01:55:36,600
Speaker 5: repeated it on Friday, so they are looking around saying, look,

2191
01:55:36,840 --> 01:55:39,800
Speaker 5: look what we've done. We're resting on our laurels here.

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01:55:40,240 --> 01:55:42,200
Speaker 5: Obviously it hasn't worked the last couple of years, but

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01:55:42,240 --> 01:55:48,800
Speaker 5: we've done it before. And it's hard to convince people

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01:55:49,720 --> 01:55:55,440
Speaker 5: who are understandably skeptical that you aren't doing everything in

2195
01:55:55,480 --> 01:55:58,760
Speaker 5: your power to return to that when all you do

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01:55:58,880 --> 01:56:00,960
Speaker 5: is look back on what you once accomplished.

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01:56:01,160 --> 01:56:04,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's it's in a smaller vacuum. Austin.

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01:56:04,320 --> 01:56:06,400
Speaker 3: For the Bengals, as the Reds is what they do

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01:56:06,440 --> 01:56:10,080
Speaker 3: when they continue to parade back the wire to wire team. Hey,

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01:56:10,120 --> 01:56:13,440
Speaker 3: we we we won it all, we've been champions. We're

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Speaker 3: gonna get back to that. Okay, how are you doing that?

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01:56:16,520 --> 01:56:18,920
Speaker 3: How are you getting back to the Super Bowl? How

2203
01:56:18,960 --> 01:56:21,120
Speaker 3: are you getting back to the AFC Title game? And

2204
01:56:21,200 --> 01:56:23,320
Speaker 3: it's not, well, we were close this year and we've

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01:56:23,320 --> 01:56:25,280
Speaker 3: done it before, so we'll do it again. That's not

2206
01:56:25,880 --> 01:56:30,920
Speaker 3: that's not an answer, that's not a path. That's frustrating.

2207
01:56:30,960 --> 01:56:33,240
Speaker 3: We'll spend more time, obviously in the off season breaking

2208
01:56:33,280 --> 01:56:36,360
Speaker 3: that down, but just some preliminary thoughts on that. Let's

2209
01:56:36,360 --> 01:56:37,760
Speaker 3: grab one more phone call and then we'll get a

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01:56:37,800 --> 01:56:38,800
Speaker 3: break in. What's up, Brian?

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01:56:39,920 --> 01:56:41,440
Speaker 33: Oh, Hey, how you guys doing good?

2212
01:56:41,440 --> 01:56:42,200
Speaker 4: How are you so?

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01:56:42,920 --> 01:56:43,120
Speaker 10: Hey?

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Speaker 33: As a fan, I don't care about Gordon super Bowl

2215
01:56:45,840 --> 01:56:47,880
Speaker 33: three or four years ago. It doesn't matter to me.

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01:56:49,280 --> 01:56:53,640
Speaker 33: WoT I don't care. I care about winning. I care

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01:56:54,480 --> 01:56:56,960
Speaker 33: about a super Bowl because we have the chance right

2218
01:56:57,000 --> 01:57:00,360
Speaker 33: now as a fan base to heaven for a because

2219
01:57:00,360 --> 01:57:03,120
Speaker 33: we got the dude, So are we going to go

2220
01:57:03,160 --> 01:57:06,760
Speaker 33: back to in twenty one when they got acquired quality

2221
01:57:06,760 --> 01:57:09,880
Speaker 33: free agents and built the roster better than they did

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01:57:10,280 --> 01:57:11,400
Speaker 33: in the past couple of years?

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Speaker 6: Like, so, are you going to do that? Or are

2224
01:57:14,080 --> 01:57:15,400
Speaker 6: you to do what you did last year, which is

2225
01:57:15,800 --> 01:57:17,520
Speaker 6: essentially nothing? Yeah?

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01:57:17,600 --> 01:57:19,440
Speaker 4: Mail it in like that's yeah.

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01:57:19,560 --> 01:57:22,880
Speaker 33: Like we as a fan like, we don't care. We

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01:57:22,960 --> 01:57:25,600
Speaker 33: don't care. We want to win and that's it. And

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01:57:25,640 --> 01:57:28,480
Speaker 33: if we don't win under Joe, we're never going to win.

2230
01:57:28,760 --> 01:57:30,520
Speaker 33: And why would be a faying Why would I give

2231
01:57:30,600 --> 01:57:33,480
Speaker 33: them my money if we can't, you know, get it

2232
01:57:33,520 --> 01:57:34,000
Speaker 33: done with Joe.

2233
01:57:34,800 --> 01:57:35,400
Speaker 6: That's what I thought.

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01:57:35,480 --> 01:57:37,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, Brian, I appreciate the phone call, man, thank you,

2235
01:57:37,600 --> 01:57:40,360
Speaker 3: you know what. To To finish the sentiment, Austin and

2236
01:57:40,640 --> 01:57:43,880
Speaker 3: We talked about this with a caller earlier. Look in Philadelphia,

2237
01:57:44,000 --> 01:57:45,880
Speaker 3: right now, are they resting on Hey, we won the

2238
01:57:45,880 --> 01:57:50,040
Speaker 3: Super Bowl in the previous year. The conversation is already

2239
01:57:50,040 --> 01:57:53,200
Speaker 3: what how do you get back to it? We're still

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01:57:53,240 --> 01:57:55,240
Speaker 3: here talking about, well, we went to the Super Bowl

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01:57:55,520 --> 01:57:57,760
Speaker 3: a couple of years ago. We can do it again.

2242
01:57:58,840 --> 01:58:01,840
Speaker 3: But there's not really any change that's been made. It's

2243
01:58:02,000 --> 01:58:07,200
Speaker 3: just same staff, same de facto GM, same head coach.

2244
01:58:08,200 --> 01:58:10,120
Speaker 3: But we'll figure it out. Trust us, We've done it before.

2245
01:58:11,280 --> 01:58:13,760
Speaker 3: That's not the way a lot of the contenders in

2246
01:58:13,760 --> 01:58:17,720
Speaker 3: the National Football League act and how they handle their business.

2247
01:58:18,280 --> 01:58:21,600
Speaker 3: Let's take a break, let's come back. Let's highlight a

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01:58:21,640 --> 01:58:23,920
Speaker 3: move that the Reds did make over the weekend and

2249
01:58:23,960 --> 01:58:27,520
Speaker 3: what that means to their roster heading forward. That and

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Speaker 3: then Moagar all coming up next on ESPN fifteen to

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Speaker 3: thirty Cincinnati Sports Station, Man Trump, welcome back since he

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01:58:40,280 --> 01:58:44,480
Speaker 3: three to sixty ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station. A

2253
01:58:44,520 --> 01:58:47,160
Speaker 3: couple different things here before we get to moagor Austin won.

2254
01:58:48,640 --> 01:58:55,200
Speaker 3: The Cincinnati Reds have added an arm in Pierce Johnson.

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Speaker 3: Great name, love the name, Pierce. You are a big

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01:59:01,120 --> 01:59:06,280
Speaker 3: fan of this move. Why. He's a good pitcher and

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01:59:06,280 --> 01:59:10,280
Speaker 3: he's been in some high leverage moments. I admittedly watched

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01:59:10,320 --> 01:59:14,640
Speaker 3: and listened to a lot of Atlanta Braves baseball last year,

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01:59:15,920 --> 01:59:19,480
Speaker 3: and Pierce Johnson was their version of Scott Barlow, which

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01:59:19,560 --> 01:59:23,000
Speaker 3: is big moment, need to get it out. I'm going

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01:59:23,040 --> 01:59:27,160
Speaker 3: to Scott Barlow like Tito Francona did seventy five times

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01:59:27,240 --> 01:59:30,880
Speaker 3: last year. Well, Pierce Johnson was called upon sixty five

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01:59:30,960 --> 01:59:34,879
Speaker 3: times by Brian Snitker. He had the same strikeout percentage

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01:59:34,880 --> 01:59:38,680
Speaker 3: as Scott Barlow, almost twenty five percent, a quarter of

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01:59:38,720 --> 01:59:41,520
Speaker 3: all the batters he's faced struck out, had just a

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01:59:41,560 --> 01:59:45,680
Speaker 3: three point zero five earned run average in fifty nine's

2267
01:59:45,720 --> 01:59:49,400
Speaker 3: innings pitched in those sixty five games, and his walk

2268
01:59:49,440 --> 01:59:53,840
Speaker 3: percentage eight percent. Compare that to Scott Barlow's which was

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01:59:53,960 --> 01:59:57,560
Speaker 3: fifteen percent. He's got a lot more control over the

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01:59:57,560 --> 02:00:02,200
Speaker 3: strike zone. Now, the Reds paid a hefty price for him,

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Speaker 3: six and a half million dollars worth. To Pierce Johnson,

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Speaker 3: I would say yes, but when you know that offensively,

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Speaker 3: that is your biggest issue, and you between Emilio Pagan

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Speaker 3: and Pierce Johnson, they're committing sixteen and a half million

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02:00:18,360 --> 02:00:22,840
Speaker 3: dollars to the two. That basically eliminates any possibility of

2276
02:00:22,840 --> 02:00:25,440
Speaker 3: a Bat coming back, unless you're trying to get somebody

2277
02:00:25,960 --> 02:00:28,280
Speaker 3: off the scrap heap, which we know that they do

2278
02:00:28,440 --> 02:00:30,320
Speaker 3: because they pretend that they don't have any money.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that was my only question is the amount of

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Speaker 4: money they paid.

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Speaker 5: I've said it for the last couple of weeks, and

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Speaker 5: I believe it to be true. The Reds are gonna

2283
02:00:38,320 --> 02:00:44,360
Speaker 5: I've really said it since uh what October November. The

2284
02:00:44,400 --> 02:00:45,840
Speaker 5: Reds are gonna try to run it back with the

2285
02:00:45,840 --> 02:00:49,480
Speaker 5: same group. They're gonna blame their bat that they're acquiring.

2286
02:00:49,520 --> 02:00:52,080
Speaker 5: They're gonna say it's Matt McLean and they're gonna say, oh, well,

2287
02:00:52,080 --> 02:00:54,520
Speaker 5: Spencer Steers healthy so he won't be bad for a month,

2288
02:00:55,280 --> 02:00:57,640
Speaker 5: and Ellie's gonna have some days off and he won't

2289
02:00:57,640 --> 02:00:59,480
Speaker 5: be having the leg injury, so he'll go beat. He'll

2290
02:00:59,480 --> 02:01:00,920
Speaker 5: get back to them, which is the same thing we

2291
02:01:00,960 --> 02:01:02,640
Speaker 5: just went through with the Bengals, and we'll have guys

2292
02:01:02,640 --> 02:01:04,480
Speaker 5: that are going to be able to give TJ. Friedel

2293
02:01:04,560 --> 02:01:07,600
Speaker 5: some time off so he'll be fresh all year long. Yeah, waha,

2294
02:01:08,680 --> 02:01:11,720
Speaker 5: let me same exact team and they're going to struggle

2295
02:01:11,720 --> 02:01:14,080
Speaker 5: to score runs, and it's gonna put all the weight

2296
02:01:14,120 --> 02:01:16,840
Speaker 5: on the pitching, and then they're they're gonna be lucky

2297
02:01:16,840 --> 02:01:17,120
Speaker 5: to get a.

2298
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Speaker 4: Wild card spot.

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Speaker 3: So let me ask you this very simply put, as

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02:01:20,880 --> 02:01:24,320
Speaker 3: we sit here in January twelfth, are the Reds better

2301
02:01:24,480 --> 02:01:25,920
Speaker 3: or worse than when the season ended?

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Speaker 5: Worse? I The cop out answer is they're the same,

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Speaker 5: because I think they are the same.

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02:01:34,520 --> 02:01:34,920
Speaker 4: Yeah.

2305
02:01:34,920 --> 02:01:37,480
Speaker 5: But if you're the same, then technically you're worse as

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02:01:37,520 --> 02:01:39,040
Speaker 5: far as I'm concerned. You're not getting better.

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02:01:39,120 --> 02:01:39,320
Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Again, we talk about it, you hit it often, the

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02:01:41,280 --> 02:01:44,520
Speaker 3: aggressive pursuit of a championship. Can you say without a

2310
02:01:44,560 --> 02:01:47,040
Speaker 3: doubt that between the season ending and right now the

2311
02:01:47,080 --> 02:01:49,240
Speaker 3: Reds have done all they could to pursue a championship?

2312
02:01:49,280 --> 02:01:51,680
Speaker 3: Hell no, then that's the answer. Yeah, and that'll be

2313
02:01:51,800 --> 02:01:54,360
Speaker 3: that is the same and it should be that is

2314
02:01:54,400 --> 02:01:56,320
Speaker 3: the same threshold that we should hold the Bengals to

2315
02:01:56,440 --> 02:01:59,120
Speaker 3: this offseason as well, no doubt. Are the moves that

2316
02:01:59,160 --> 02:02:03,200
Speaker 3: they are making or what they have done does that

2317
02:02:03,240 --> 02:02:04,880
Speaker 3: equate to a championship?

2318
02:02:05,080 --> 02:02:07,800
Speaker 5: Is it aligned with a team that is an aggressive

2319
02:02:07,800 --> 02:02:08,840
Speaker 5: pursuit of a championship?

2320
02:02:08,920 --> 02:02:09,160
Speaker 4: Yes?

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Speaker 16: Or no?

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Speaker 5: And the answer to the Reds is no, the Bengals.

2323
02:02:13,160 --> 02:02:15,839
Speaker 5: The Bengals can change the narrative. The Reds narrative exists

2324
02:02:15,840 --> 02:02:18,480
Speaker 5: for a reason. It's because they don't. They they aren't

2325
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Speaker 5: interested in doing everything in their power to well. I

2326
02:02:22,480 --> 02:02:25,520
Speaker 5: should say, I shouldn't say the Reds players and the coaches,

2327
02:02:25,560 --> 02:02:27,760
Speaker 5: And I think Nick Krawl, I think those guys are

2328
02:02:27,800 --> 02:02:31,960
Speaker 5: doing everything they can. I think that the problems with

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Speaker 5: the organization come from up top.

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Speaker 4: I think.

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Speaker 5: Somebody tweeted this at us a couple of months ago,

2332
02:02:38,920 --> 02:02:40,760
Speaker 5: and I haven't been able to stop thinking about it.

2333
02:02:41,520 --> 02:02:46,960
Speaker 5: The Reds could, but don't. The Bengals do but can't.

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02:02:47,920 --> 02:02:51,440
Speaker 5: That's you know what I mean? Like, that's that's those

2335
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Speaker 5: two organizations right there. Speaking of baseball spending, Oh, we

2336
02:02:55,920 --> 02:02:59,880
Speaker 5: saw the big deal with Alex Bregman over the weekend

2337
02:03:00,040 --> 02:03:03,000
Speaker 5: about the implications that might have on the Red Sox.

2338
02:03:03,440 --> 02:03:06,800
Speaker 5: You know, the Red Sox traded Rafael Devers because of

2339
02:03:06,880 --> 02:03:10,400
Speaker 5: Alex Bregman's addition, and they were going to try to

2340
02:03:10,480 --> 02:03:17,080
Speaker 5: keep Bregman. The bottom five spenders in free agent signings

2341
02:03:17,200 --> 02:03:20,560
Speaker 5: so far this offseason in Major League Baseball, the Twins

2342
02:03:20,560 --> 02:03:24,480
Speaker 5: have spent seven million dollars, the Royals six point one,

2343
02:03:26,040 --> 02:03:31,240
Speaker 5: the Nationals five point five, the A's two point eighty five,

2344
02:03:32,240 --> 02:03:34,200
Speaker 5: the Boston Red Sox zero.

2345
02:03:34,520 --> 02:03:35,000
Speaker 20: Wow.

2346
02:03:35,680 --> 02:03:36,400
Speaker 4: Unbelievable.

2347
02:03:37,120 --> 02:03:41,920
Speaker 5: Top five spenders Mets at one fourteen, Phillies at one

2348
02:03:42,080 --> 02:03:47,520
Speaker 5: seventy nine, Orioles at one ninety five, Cubs at two

2349
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Speaker 5: twenty eight, and the Blue Jays at three hundred and

2350
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Speaker 5: thirty six.

2351
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Speaker 4: Wow. Okay.

2352
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Speaker 5: Blue Jays, by the way, were just in the World

2353
02:03:56,600 --> 02:03:59,320
Speaker 5: Series and they said, you know what, let's keep going.

2354
02:04:00,680 --> 02:04:04,520
Speaker 5: Quick note here college basketball ap pole is out today.

2355
02:04:05,000 --> 02:04:08,120
Speaker 5: The Miami RedHawks. Austin somehow still getting overlooked.

2356
02:04:08,240 --> 02:04:08,960
Speaker 4: They're not in it.

2357
02:04:09,200 --> 02:04:12,560
Speaker 3: No, they are just now up to twenty ninth from thirtieth. Interesting,

2358
02:04:12,640 --> 02:04:16,000
Speaker 3: they are not in it now. Bulletin board materials. Well,

2359
02:04:16,000 --> 02:04:18,320
Speaker 3: if you're a UC fan, you got something. You got

2360
02:04:18,360 --> 02:04:22,440
Speaker 3: an opportunity to do some amazing Austin. With Michigan's loss,

2361
02:04:23,440 --> 02:04:29,520
Speaker 3: Michigan has fallen to fourth, which means on Saturday and

2362
02:04:29,560 --> 02:04:33,800
Speaker 3: then next Wednesday, as currently lined up, UC could be

2363
02:04:33,840 --> 02:04:35,680
Speaker 3: lined up to take down number one and two in

2364
02:04:35,680 --> 02:04:41,040
Speaker 3: the nation. And for Wes Miller, who earlier said, where's

2365
02:04:41,080 --> 02:04:44,520
Speaker 3: the quote, they're one of the best teams in college basketball.

2366
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Speaker 4: Thenother opportunity to prove it. What an opportunity to prove it? Yeah?

2367
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Speaker 4: That God, I hope he wins one that. Can you imagine?

2368
02:04:53,080 --> 02:04:53,640
Speaker 4: So funny?

2369
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Speaker 3: Can you imagine they lose to Colorado and then they

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Speaker 3: go off and beat Arizona at Iowa State.

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Speaker 5: It would be so awesome, then, would I would be?

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Speaker 4: Then you're working on the extension.

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Speaker 5: I was going to say what I would be tweeting

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Speaker 5: out just to get you and others fired up. And

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Speaker 5: I'm not normally a troll, but it would be funny

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Speaker 5: to say, lifetime contract.

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Speaker 4: Here, it comes, here, it comes lifetime contracts.

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Speaker 5: A I generate a picture of a Bearcat fan with

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Speaker 5: a brown paper bag over its head that said, lifetime contract.

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Speaker 5: You signed a lifetime contract with the Bearcats all those

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Speaker 5: years ago? I would you're stuck with them?

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Speaker 4: We will.

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Speaker 3: We'll get most thoughts on that and so much more

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Speaker 3: for quick Hits next on e SPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati

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Speaker 3: Sports Station.

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Speaker 2: Come now, it's time for a quick hits on Tony Pikes.

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Speaker 2: Since he three sixty.

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Speaker 3: Was looking for waiting on MO, I know he's here somewhere.

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Speaker 3: Hopefully he'll join us. In a few moments. I have

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Speaker 3: seen him earlier today. He was wandering around here. So

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Speaker 3: we'll get to mo in just a few moments. You

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Speaker 3: heard Aaron Rodgers there? Oh who you got tonight?

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Speaker 29: Man?

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Speaker 3: I know it's twenty three straight Monday night home wins

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Speaker 3: for Pittsburgh.

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Speaker 5: Not since nineteen ninety one have they lost a home

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Speaker 5: Monday Night.

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Speaker 3: I just I feel like early in this game, Pittsburgh's

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Speaker 3: going to try to run it, and if they can't

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Speaker 3: run it against a four man, look, they are going

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Speaker 3: to be in for a world or hurt because Rogers

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Speaker 3: doesn't move well. And if Houston can commit just four,

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Speaker 3: they can drop seven with that dominant front they have,

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Speaker 3: and they're going to make life very difficult on Aaron Rodgers.

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Speaker 3: For that reason, I think I lean Texans tonight. What

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Speaker 3: about you?

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Speaker 5: You and I are aligned in our thinking now.

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Speaker 3: I do wonder we talk a lot about that side.

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Speaker 3: No one's talked as lot as much about the other side.

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Speaker 3: Pittsburgh's defense, I think has played a little better, and

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Speaker 3: the Texans offense has been a question mark for a

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Speaker 3: lot of the year. Are we overlooking the Pittsburgh defense

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Speaker 3: impact that they can have on this game?

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Speaker 4: Against the Texans. Yeah, I think we are.

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Speaker 5: I mean that Pittsburgh defense has played pretty well over

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Speaker 5: the last month or so of the season, and that

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Speaker 5: is still The weakness of the Houston Texans is their

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Speaker 5: ability to run the ball and their ability to protect CJ. Stroud,

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Speaker 5: and that obviously goes against the strength of Pittsburgh. It

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Speaker 5: feels like a rock fight to me, kind of similar

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Speaker 5: to the game we saw last night between the Chargers

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Speaker 5: and the Patriots. It might be like a sixteen to ten,

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Speaker 5: sixteen to fourteen type of game, might come down to

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Speaker 5: a Chris Boswell field goal. Originally I thought, Okay, Houston's

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Speaker 5: gonna blow the doors off these dudes, But just the

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Speaker 5: way Pittsburgh has kind of turned things and gotten consistent defensively. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: and you know, unless Houston can really stretch the ball

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Speaker 5: down the field and attack Jalen Ramsey, I don't know

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Speaker 5: that it's going to be a game that they run

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Speaker 5: away with.

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Speaker 3: We will obviously have more time to dive into this,

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02:08:06,920 --> 02:08:10,040
Speaker 3: but a very very quick thought on each do either

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Speaker 3: of these teams tonight possess the ability to go to

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Speaker 3: Gillette on Sunday and get a win?

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Speaker 5: Oh, that's a good question, I would say Houston.

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Speaker 29: More.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Pittsburgh.

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Speaker 3: It's also already unique as you get into the divisional

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Speaker 3: round and look ahead, Bills are favored over the Broncos

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Speaker 3: as the away team, and the Rams are favored over

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Speaker 3: the Bears as the away team. Which of those away

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Speaker 3: teams has a better chance to go get a win?

2443
02:08:39,920 --> 02:08:46,480
Speaker 3: Buffalo really over the Rams? Why just trust in Denver?

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02:08:46,640 --> 02:08:50,839
Speaker 3: Something's wrong with the Rams. I know what it is now.

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Speaker 5: Now Sean McVay might be able to do whatever he

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Speaker 5: wants against Chicago defense. But I think who's the best

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Speaker 5: quarterback left? And to me, it's Josh. I'm trusting Josh Allen.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, makes sense. The Niners in Seahawks. It's the seven

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Speaker 3: point number. Seahawks are the one seed in the NFC.

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Speaker 3: I think people view the Seahawks though, as a team

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Speaker 3: that I just don't know what to think in the NFC.

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Speaker 3: The Niners go through another devastating injury now, losing George Kittle.

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Speaker 3: Is it just too much, in your opinion for the

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Speaker 3: Niners to overcome? Do you give them a chance in

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Speaker 3: this No?

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Speaker 4: I don't. They beat Seattle early in the year.

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Speaker 5: I think it's become pretty like clear for me, Seattle

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Speaker 5: is going to go to the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 34: Yeah, I I I genuinely think that the statement Seattle

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Speaker 34: made in that last regular season game when everything was

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Speaker 34: on the line, they did whatever they wanted in San

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Speaker 34: Francisco against the Niners.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: McCaffrey had twenty three rushing yards in that game. And

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Speaker 3: I just think against a team like Seattle lostin if

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Speaker 3: you're going to beat them, you got to be at

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Speaker 3: your full compliment of weapons. Yeah, and to not have

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Speaker 3: George Kittle when that passing game struggled enough. I mean

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Speaker 3: Brock Party nineteen to twenty seven for a buck twenty

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Speaker 3: seven in an interception that was with George Kittle. Sure, how

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Speaker 3: difficult does Seattle make it now without him? The only

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Speaker 3: question that Seattle's going to have to overcome is Sam Darnald. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: and that's going to be their question for every game

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Speaker 3: they play the rest.

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Speaker 4: Of the year.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, that was gonna say. That's like the big wild

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Speaker 5: card is does Sam Darnald have one of those moments

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Speaker 5: where he's tinkling down his leg mm hm. And you know,

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Speaker 5: Fred Warner you mentioned him earlier, post a video today

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Speaker 5: of him working out.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, looking pretty good.

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Speaker 5: But you Also, Robert sala is a really good coach,

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Speaker 5: really good defensive coordinator. There's some familiarity obviously in seeing

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Speaker 5: each other again. But in Seattle, I'm gonna trust the

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Speaker 5: Seahawk to get that done.

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Speaker 3: But I think a little bit of what you're seeing

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Speaker 3: already though, you resort back and you have the understanding

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Speaker 3: of why, no matter what else the quarterback position is King,

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02:11:08,680 --> 02:11:11,360
Speaker 3: Broncos had a great year. But what did you just say,

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Speaker 3: Josh Allen plays for the Bills quarterbacks King. If the

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Speaker 3: Rams are going to go into Chicago, it's going to

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Speaker 3: be why. Yeah, they have Matthew Stafford and Sean McVay.

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Speaker 3: It's what Drake May has done for so much of

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Speaker 3: the year, and I think it's why people are short

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Speaker 3: of saying Seattle, without a doubt, Seattle every other part

2496
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Speaker 3: of their game. Yes, the Darnold question looms, and it's

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Speaker 3: to me a big question about Houston. As good as

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Speaker 3: the defense is, can they get it done with c. J. Stroud,

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Speaker 3: who's been okay this year, and just the overall general

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Speaker 3: lack of a running game that the Texans possess. How

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Speaker 3: different do you feel about the Texans if Joe Mixon

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Speaker 3: was a Texan.

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Speaker 4: I don't feel differently at all.

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Speaker 3: Okay, you don't think he could have helped them? No,

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Speaker 3: anything has changed with you on your Super Bowl teams

2506
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Speaker 3: from the AFC and NFC.

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Speaker 4: Still the Seahawks.

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Speaker 5: What did I pick at the beginning of the year,

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Speaker 5: do you remember?

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02:12:11,280 --> 02:12:12,440
Speaker 4: I don't know at the beginning.

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02:12:12,640 --> 02:12:15,520
Speaker 5: I have it written down somewhere. Let me see if

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Speaker 5: I can find that really quickly. But at the yesterday

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Speaker 5: I said I'll take Buffalo and Seattle to finish it off.

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Speaker 3: I think a lot of people are going to stick

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Speaker 3: with that. It doesn't appear we're going to get Mo today.

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Speaker 4: I hope he's okay. Has anyone heard from Mo?

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Speaker 5: I haven't. I know Aaron was there it is, but

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Speaker 5: I haven't heard from him.

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Speaker 3: If you've missed anything else, brooks kep because we're turning

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02:12:43,640 --> 02:12:46,080
Speaker 3: to the PGA tour. That opens the door for a

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Speaker 3: couple others to follow. It seems like Matt Lafleur is

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Speaker 3: going to be back as the Panthers coach or Packers coach.

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Speaker 3: Dylan Ryola has joined Oregon as their quarterback. The University

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Speaker 3: of Cincinnati has a new defensive coordinator. They poached the

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Speaker 3: Army coaching tree, and they've reunited Scott Saderfield with a

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Speaker 3: former staff member of his when he was at Appalachian State.

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Speaker 3: The Bearcats go get thirty eight year coaching veteran Nate

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Speaker 3: Woodie to be their defensive coordinator coming over from Army.

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Speaker 5: Oh, I just found our predictions. Okay, okay. You had

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Speaker 5: Ravens over Eagles in the Super Bowl. Yikes, so you're

2531
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Speaker 5: out done. I had Eagles over Bills okay in the

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Speaker 5: Super Bowl. So I still have the Bills making the

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Speaker 5: suits still alive, but my champion is gone, still alive.

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Speaker 4: As is yours. All Right, we're done.

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Speaker 5: We also, I had the Bengals at ten and seven.

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Speaker 5: You had them at twelve and five. Yep, never again,

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02:13:48,160 --> 02:13:50,760
Speaker 5: never again. I agree with Duke Tobin. They were close.

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Speaker 5: I mean, hey, you've done it before. They were close.

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Speaker 5: We're done. I hope everyone has a great rest of

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Speaker 5: their Monday. We assume that Mullwagger's next. I hope he

2541
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Speaker 5: is YPN fifteenth around this place, Cincinnati Sports Station, have

2542
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Speaker 5: a great rest of your Monday.

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Speaker 4: We'll do it again tomorrow.

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Speaker 15: Don c k y Cincinnati, make us the number one

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Speaker 5: Men, The new year is here, and if you're like

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Speaker 5: many of us, you're ready to improve.