1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:03,720 Speaker 1: You're listening to KFI AM six on demand. 2 00:00:05,360 --> 00:00:09,520 Speaker 2: I'm Chris Merrill I AM sixty where the talk is 3 00:00:09,520 --> 00:00:16,400 Speaker 2: more stimulating. Indeed it is, indeed, uh rooney. Although if 4 00:00:16,440 --> 00:00:19,960 Speaker 2: it gets too stimulating, we might get clamped down. Yeah, 5 00:00:20,120 --> 00:00:22,920 Speaker 2: totally possible. I mean, like what happened with Jimmy Kimmel. 6 00:00:23,160 --> 00:00:29,680 Speaker 2: You know that he said some things they were factually suspect, 7 00:00:29,720 --> 00:00:31,320 Speaker 2: and all of a sudden he gets pulled. And then 8 00:00:31,400 --> 00:00:34,800 Speaker 2: the FCC commissioner weighs in and says, yeah, good, and 9 00:00:35,040 --> 00:00:37,120 Speaker 2: we gotta we can do this the easy way. We 10 00:00:37,120 --> 00:00:41,240 Speaker 2: can do this the hard way. Oh and then Kimmel 11 00:00:41,280 --> 00:00:45,000 Speaker 2: went and signed a new contract. So evidently the hard way. 12 00:00:48,880 --> 00:00:51,440 Speaker 3: Is not. Actually anything doesn't seem to happen. 13 00:00:52,479 --> 00:00:56,520 Speaker 2: So there were members of the FCC who were in 14 00:00:57,080 --> 00:01:03,360 Speaker 2: a Senate hearing today, right, and so they're sitting there 15 00:01:03,400 --> 00:01:10,639 Speaker 2: and Brendan Carr is getting questions from Ben ray Lewan. 16 00:01:10,720 --> 00:01:11,920 Speaker 2: I think that is how you say his name. He's 17 00:01:11,920 --> 00:01:16,200 Speaker 2: a Democrat from New Mexico, and I think you can 18 00:01:16,240 --> 00:01:19,640 Speaker 2: suspect that he was he was going to try to 19 00:01:19,680 --> 00:01:22,040 Speaker 2: put him on his put to put car on his heel. 20 00:01:22,040 --> 00:01:24,160 Speaker 2: Excuse me, So you've got the Democratic senator that is 21 00:01:24,200 --> 00:01:28,280 Speaker 2: pressing Brendan Carr, who has been very clear about being 22 00:01:28,280 --> 00:01:30,960 Speaker 2: a Trump loyalist. And you knew that the Democrat was 23 00:01:31,000 --> 00:01:33,399 Speaker 2: going to try to press and put him on his heels. 24 00:01:33,520 --> 00:01:35,280 Speaker 2: This is what these Senate hearings are. It's all dog 25 00:01:35,319 --> 00:01:37,720 Speaker 2: and pony show, all of them. This is how they work. 26 00:01:38,120 --> 00:01:40,199 Speaker 2: It allows the senators to go on record and say 27 00:01:40,200 --> 00:01:41,920 Speaker 2: something and then they try to do like a get 28 00:01:42,000 --> 00:01:42,920 Speaker 2: you moment kind of thing. 29 00:01:42,959 --> 00:01:45,440 Speaker 3: But it looked wants pay attention to it. 30 00:01:46,120 --> 00:01:47,600 Speaker 2: But there was something that came out that I thought 31 00:01:47,640 --> 00:01:52,559 Speaker 2: was really fascinating, and that when Lewan was talking with him, 32 00:01:53,960 --> 00:01:56,440 Speaker 2: he asked him a question that seemed like it should 33 00:01:56,440 --> 00:01:59,560 Speaker 2: have been pretty simple to answer, but then it turned 34 00:01:59,560 --> 00:02:01,720 Speaker 2: into a real strange point of contention. 35 00:02:01,840 --> 00:02:02,960 Speaker 3: This is the audio from c SPAN. 36 00:02:03,040 --> 00:02:04,360 Speaker 1: Have a listen you centered to Luhan. 37 00:02:04,600 --> 00:02:07,520 Speaker 4: Thank you, mister chairman, Chairman Carr. Yes or no? 38 00:02:07,640 --> 00:02:08,520 Speaker 3: And please? Yes or no? 39 00:02:09,200 --> 00:02:11,120 Speaker 4: Is the SEC an Independent Agency? 40 00:02:12,240 --> 00:02:14,120 Speaker 3: All right? Was that loud enough? Did you hear it? Okay? Push? 41 00:02:14,120 --> 00:02:14,960 Speaker 3: Did that come through? Okay? 42 00:02:15,680 --> 00:02:16,959 Speaker 2: Yeah, I can hear it audio on that was a 43 00:02:16,960 --> 00:02:19,120 Speaker 2: little quiet, all right, so we could hear it a 44 00:02:19,160 --> 00:02:20,600 Speaker 2: little rough, a little rough. 45 00:02:20,720 --> 00:02:22,480 Speaker 3: Well, plugs. Get here. 46 00:02:22,520 --> 00:02:25,280 Speaker 2: He said yes or no is the is the sec 47 00:02:25,480 --> 00:02:29,080 Speaker 2: and independent agency? And this is this is where things 48 00:02:29,200 --> 00:02:30,320 Speaker 2: got weird fast. 49 00:02:31,080 --> 00:02:32,560 Speaker 4: Senator, thanks for that question. 50 00:02:32,600 --> 00:02:34,120 Speaker 2: I think yes or no is all he needs or 51 00:02:34,200 --> 00:02:37,760 Speaker 2: yesterd know is it independent? Now in this case, Luhan 52 00:02:37,880 --> 00:02:40,440 Speaker 2: is trying to just get the yes or no because 53 00:02:40,639 --> 00:02:43,639 Speaker 2: he's got five minutes. That's it, right, Senators only have 54 00:02:43,720 --> 00:02:45,519 Speaker 2: five minutes. So it's just I just need to just 55 00:02:45,520 --> 00:02:46,960 Speaker 2: say yes or no and then I'm gonna move on. 56 00:02:47,040 --> 00:02:48,480 Speaker 2: And so you know what he's doing. He's trying to 57 00:02:48,520 --> 00:02:49,840 Speaker 2: lay out a case so that he can get it 58 00:02:49,880 --> 00:02:52,799 Speaker 2: get him later in a gotcha. Okay, but then all 59 00:02:52,840 --> 00:02:54,880 Speaker 2: of a sudden this gets muddy. 60 00:02:55,200 --> 00:02:57,280 Speaker 4: Well, there's a test for this in the law. In 61 00:02:57,320 --> 00:02:59,400 Speaker 4: the key portion of that yes, yes or no, Brendan 62 00:02:59,720 --> 00:03:01,679 Speaker 4: the portion that test. Okay, I'm going to go to 63 00:03:01,760 --> 00:03:02,680 Speaker 4: Commissioner trustee. 64 00:03:02,720 --> 00:03:05,280 Speaker 5: So just so you know, Brendan, on your website, it 65 00:03:05,400 --> 00:03:08,120 Speaker 5: just simply says, man, the FCC is independent. 66 00:03:08,160 --> 00:03:11,200 Speaker 4: This isn't a trick question. Okay, yes, is not? 67 00:03:11,400 --> 00:03:11,680 Speaker 3: Okay? 68 00:03:11,800 --> 00:03:12,120 Speaker 1: Is not? 69 00:03:12,280 --> 00:03:14,799 Speaker 4: So? Is your website wrong? Is your website lying? 70 00:03:14,960 --> 00:03:15,240 Speaker 3: Okay? 71 00:03:15,280 --> 00:03:21,120 Speaker 2: So Brendan car says, the FCC is not an independent agency. 72 00:03:21,680 --> 00:03:25,120 Speaker 3: What I thought that was. 73 00:03:26,520 --> 00:03:28,600 Speaker 2: I thought there were certain agencies we just assumed were 74 00:03:29,120 --> 00:03:31,120 Speaker 2: or we've been told, and in their case it's actually 75 00:03:31,120 --> 00:03:34,000 Speaker 2: described on their own website that way an independent agency. 76 00:03:34,720 --> 00:03:37,160 Speaker 3: It's kind of like the Federal Reserve Board. 77 00:03:37,200 --> 00:03:39,240 Speaker 2: Isn't that supposed to be an independent agency so that 78 00:03:39,320 --> 00:03:41,320 Speaker 2: it doesn't have to cater to the whims of what 79 00:03:41,520 --> 00:03:44,120 Speaker 2: you ever politician and the party is in charge at 80 00:03:44,160 --> 00:03:47,440 Speaker 2: the time, is not the whole idea behind an independent 81 00:03:47,480 --> 00:03:48,400 Speaker 2: agency is to be. 82 00:03:50,120 --> 00:03:51,560 Speaker 3: Away from all the politics. 83 00:03:52,040 --> 00:03:54,120 Speaker 4: Possibly the SEC is not an independent agency. 84 00:03:54,240 --> 00:03:56,560 Speaker 5: Okay, can I read this to you the FCC's mission 85 00:03:56,680 --> 00:03:59,880 Speaker 5: on the home page of the FCC man an independent 86 00:04:00,200 --> 00:04:02,760 Speaker 5: US government agency overseen by Congress. 87 00:04:03,080 --> 00:04:04,240 Speaker 4: Is that factual? 88 00:04:04,440 --> 00:04:05,080 Speaker 3: Or is that a lie? 89 00:04:05,520 --> 00:04:05,680 Speaker 4: Yes? 90 00:04:05,880 --> 00:04:06,080 Speaker 6: Is not? 91 00:04:06,160 --> 00:04:08,720 Speaker 4: Formally is independent? Is this true or is. 92 00:04:08,720 --> 00:04:09,240 Speaker 3: This a lie? 93 00:04:09,800 --> 00:04:11,080 Speaker 7: I'm not an ansure question. 94 00:04:11,560 --> 00:04:16,800 Speaker 4: Okay, get the president Chairman. I have a little bit 95 00:04:16,839 --> 00:04:17,640 Speaker 4: of a time. I'll get back to. 96 00:04:17,720 --> 00:04:19,919 Speaker 1: Yes, he is not an independent agency formally speaking. 97 00:04:19,960 --> 00:04:22,160 Speaker 4: Appreciate you saying that and being honest with the American people. 98 00:04:22,160 --> 00:04:23,200 Speaker 4: Commissioner trustee. 99 00:04:24,440 --> 00:04:26,080 Speaker 3: So he goes down to the other commissioner, the one 100 00:04:26,120 --> 00:04:28,200 Speaker 3: sitting next to him, Senator, thank you for the question. 101 00:04:28,960 --> 00:04:31,440 Speaker 3: The president is the chief of chief executive bested with 102 00:04:31,480 --> 00:04:34,640 Speaker 3: all executive power in our government, and FCC commissioners are not. 103 00:04:35,040 --> 00:04:37,560 Speaker 2: We do not have four cause removal protections, which means 104 00:04:37,560 --> 00:04:38,560 Speaker 2: that we aren't independent. 105 00:04:38,800 --> 00:04:40,480 Speaker 4: So is this is your website line? 106 00:04:40,600 --> 00:04:41,640 Speaker 3: I can't speak to the website. 107 00:04:41,640 --> 00:04:42,240 Speaker 7: I've not seen that. 108 00:04:42,520 --> 00:04:44,760 Speaker 5: You all are the commissioners in charge of this place, right, 109 00:04:44,839 --> 00:04:46,760 Speaker 5: so this stuff has to be approved by one of you. 110 00:04:47,160 --> 00:04:48,919 Speaker 4: If this is lying, then you should just fix it. 111 00:04:49,120 --> 00:04:51,160 Speaker 5: Let me just say that that wasn't even my gotcha question, 112 00:04:51,160 --> 00:04:52,000 Speaker 5: and I'm surprised it. 113 00:04:54,800 --> 00:04:56,160 Speaker 3: That wasn't even my god your question. 114 00:04:56,360 --> 00:04:58,440 Speaker 2: I was getting to my gotcha question, but you guys, 115 00:04:58,760 --> 00:05:00,120 Speaker 2: you guys just went ahead and got your. 116 00:05:01,400 --> 00:05:03,800 Speaker 4: I've burned up three minutes talking about this damn thing. 117 00:05:04,000 --> 00:05:07,240 Speaker 8: Commissioner Gomes goes down to the third commission who's on 118 00:05:07,320 --> 00:05:08,080 Speaker 8: the dais. 119 00:05:08,120 --> 00:05:10,080 Speaker 4: Yes, and we should be. I appreciate that. 120 00:05:10,120 --> 00:05:13,039 Speaker 5: Well, mister chairman, if I could just admit the print 121 00:05:13,080 --> 00:05:15,320 Speaker 5: out of the homepage of the FCC into the record, man, 122 00:05:15,360 --> 00:05:18,080 Speaker 5: it says it's an independent agency, and if it's not true, 123 00:05:18,200 --> 00:05:20,200 Speaker 5: then change. 124 00:05:19,960 --> 00:05:22,360 Speaker 4: It without objection. I appreciate that. 125 00:05:22,480 --> 00:05:24,479 Speaker 3: He didn't even want to go down the path. 126 00:05:24,560 --> 00:05:27,680 Speaker 2: He wasn't even trying to get them to say that 127 00:05:27,800 --> 00:05:29,440 Speaker 2: it is an independent agency. 128 00:05:29,480 --> 00:05:32,919 Speaker 3: And then that wasn't the avenue that he was taking. 129 00:05:32,920 --> 00:05:35,400 Speaker 2: He could have he could have said, you're an independent agency, 130 00:05:35,400 --> 00:05:36,920 Speaker 2: and why are you doing the bidding of the president. 131 00:05:36,960 --> 00:05:39,679 Speaker 2: That's what I would have expected a democratic senator to do. Instead, 132 00:05:40,000 --> 00:05:42,200 Speaker 2: he was going to take a different gotcha question. He 133 00:05:42,279 --> 00:05:46,000 Speaker 2: was only laying the groundwork, and the whole independence thing 134 00:05:46,560 --> 00:05:49,159 Speaker 2: was likely to be more along the lines of why 135 00:05:49,160 --> 00:05:52,320 Speaker 2: aren't you acting independent? Since you're independent wires you acting 136 00:05:52,320 --> 00:05:56,120 Speaker 2: that way. Instead, it just turned into I guess your 137 00:05:56,120 --> 00:06:01,320 Speaker 2: website's wrong. It actually flumixed the senator. The senator goes 138 00:06:01,480 --> 00:06:03,600 Speaker 2: he didn't even he didn't even make accusations like how 139 00:06:03,600 --> 00:06:05,240 Speaker 2: do you not know this? Why do you think that 140 00:06:05,279 --> 00:06:07,960 Speaker 2: you are blah blah blah. Basically, he just said, Okay, 141 00:06:08,000 --> 00:06:12,640 Speaker 2: I guess your website's wrong then and just fix your website. 142 00:06:14,760 --> 00:06:18,440 Speaker 2: But it does reveal the mindset of the FCC commissioners, 143 00:06:19,880 --> 00:06:24,040 Speaker 2: and it's it's a little bit concerning because if the 144 00:06:24,160 --> 00:06:26,800 Speaker 2: FCC is perceived as a as a political arm of 145 00:06:26,839 --> 00:06:30,320 Speaker 2: the White House, what does that mean for our future 146 00:06:30,400 --> 00:06:34,760 Speaker 2: regulatory decisions, and what does that mean about decisions that 147 00:06:34,839 --> 00:06:38,960 Speaker 2: are made and then challenged in the courts, because all 148 00:06:38,960 --> 00:06:40,279 Speaker 2: of a sudden, we're gonna start taking a look at 149 00:06:40,320 --> 00:06:42,320 Speaker 2: some of these things, and we're gonna start questioning legitimacy 150 00:06:43,920 --> 00:06:49,760 Speaker 2: if the FCC is not an independent agency, and perhaps 151 00:06:49,800 --> 00:06:51,960 Speaker 2: the solution here in Congress should get on this is 152 00:06:51,960 --> 00:06:57,640 Speaker 2: to offer four cause protections. As you heard a commissioner trustee, 153 00:06:57,920 --> 00:07:00,360 Speaker 2: the FCC commissioner say, we don't have those partet as 154 00:07:00,360 --> 00:07:03,320 Speaker 2: that other independent agencies have. In other words, the president 155 00:07:03,360 --> 00:07:07,320 Speaker 2: can can canis at will, doesn't have to have a reason. 156 00:07:07,520 --> 00:07:09,800 Speaker 2: Maybe what needs to happen is Congress needs to go 157 00:07:09,840 --> 00:07:12,960 Speaker 2: through these agencies that we've always thought to be independent 158 00:07:13,280 --> 00:07:16,520 Speaker 2: and offer them some more protections so that they don't 159 00:07:16,520 --> 00:07:19,240 Speaker 2: have to operate if they're concerned with whomever the next 160 00:07:19,240 --> 00:07:19,920 Speaker 2: president is. 161 00:07:20,080 --> 00:07:25,000 Speaker 3: Right, maybe that's the solution. But in the meantime, if. 162 00:07:25,160 --> 00:07:29,640 Speaker 2: If suddenly we're wondering, for instance, does the Netflix and 163 00:07:29,960 --> 00:07:34,280 Speaker 2: Warner Brothers deal get get approved, well, it all depends 164 00:07:34,320 --> 00:07:38,280 Speaker 2: on what promises were made to the president. That's not 165 00:07:38,440 --> 00:07:41,720 Speaker 2: an open and free market, and if we believe in 166 00:07:41,760 --> 00:07:49,600 Speaker 2: free market capitalism, with of course understandable regulations, but certainly 167 00:07:49,600 --> 00:07:52,640 Speaker 2: not capitalism that is based on the whims of the 168 00:07:52,720 --> 00:07:57,880 Speaker 2: ruling party. That kind of strikes at the core of 169 00:07:59,320 --> 00:08:02,480 Speaker 2: the freedoms and rights of our nation, does it not. 170 00:08:03,800 --> 00:08:06,640 Speaker 2: I mean, what good is freedom of speech if that 171 00:08:06,720 --> 00:08:09,600 Speaker 2: freedom of speech is being policed by an agency that 172 00:08:09,720 --> 00:08:15,280 Speaker 2: acts at the behest of an executive And I want 173 00:08:15,320 --> 00:08:17,160 Speaker 2: you to consider this is where it gets dangerous. I 174 00:08:17,200 --> 00:08:20,000 Speaker 2: want you to consider this because these are the sorts 175 00:08:20,040 --> 00:08:21,840 Speaker 2: of accusations that used to come down around Biden in 176 00:08:21,880 --> 00:08:24,040 Speaker 2: Obama from the right. Of course, there were fingers that 177 00:08:24,040 --> 00:08:26,240 Speaker 2: were pointing from the right and they would say, you know, 178 00:08:26,320 --> 00:08:29,880 Speaker 2: this is all being done because this is Obama's enforcement arm, 179 00:08:29,920 --> 00:08:32,360 Speaker 2: and he's trying to manipulate the media and blah blah blah, 180 00:08:32,400 --> 00:08:35,840 Speaker 2: all this kind of stuff. Right, So imagine if the 181 00:08:35,920 --> 00:08:40,400 Speaker 2: FCC chair during the Obama year said I'm doing I'm 182 00:08:40,400 --> 00:08:42,320 Speaker 2: doing what I think the President wants me to do 183 00:08:42,400 --> 00:08:44,120 Speaker 2: so that I can keep my job because I'm not 184 00:08:44,160 --> 00:08:48,880 Speaker 2: an independent thinker, I'm merely an arm of the executive branch. 185 00:08:50,880 --> 00:08:54,160 Speaker 2: What would the mindset have been then, And more importantly, 186 00:08:55,160 --> 00:08:57,400 Speaker 2: what is the mindset going to be if you've got 187 00:08:57,400 --> 00:09:01,160 Speaker 2: a president AOC or a President Bernie Sanders, or a 188 00:09:01,200 --> 00:09:06,800 Speaker 2: President Gavin Newsom or a President Raoul Raholva. Then what 189 00:09:07,800 --> 00:09:12,120 Speaker 2: if the agencies aren't independent? What happens when it's not 190 00:09:12,320 --> 00:09:15,240 Speaker 2: your party in charge? And the Democrats are fighting this 191 00:09:15,360 --> 00:09:19,120 Speaker 2: right now, and I think that Republicans would be naive 192 00:09:19,200 --> 00:09:21,600 Speaker 2: to assume that it's it's not going to be tit 193 00:09:21,679 --> 00:09:24,800 Speaker 2: for tat the next time that the White House changes hands. 194 00:09:25,520 --> 00:09:28,120 Speaker 3: Just consider that when you watch. 195 00:09:27,920 --> 00:09:30,600 Speaker 2: All this drama playing out, is that the drama today 196 00:09:31,120 --> 00:09:34,559 Speaker 2: is the groundwork for the drama tomorrow. Now, you too 197 00:09:34,760 --> 00:09:37,720 Speaker 2: just pulled the plug on two huge channels, and the 198 00:09:37,720 --> 00:09:42,480 Speaker 2: reason is they're creating content to trick their fans, and 199 00:09:42,520 --> 00:09:45,280 Speaker 2: maybe their fans want to be lied to. Meanwhile, Hollywood 200 00:09:45,320 --> 00:09:47,719 Speaker 2: creators are organizing like they've got an open war to 201 00:09:47,760 --> 00:09:49,280 Speaker 2: save their jobs and it's starting to look like we 202 00:09:49,280 --> 00:09:51,760 Speaker 2: can have another strike on the horizon. Is Tintaltown going 203 00:09:51,840 --> 00:09:53,280 Speaker 2: to survive another work stoppage? 204 00:09:53,320 --> 00:09:53,840 Speaker 3: That is next? 205 00:09:54,760 --> 00:09:58,160 Speaker 1: You're listening to KFI AM sixty on demand. 206 00:10:02,480 --> 00:10:04,000 Speaker 2: Thank you so much for being a part of the program. 207 00:10:04,000 --> 00:10:06,240 Speaker 2: I was just talking about the FCC chair. He was 208 00:10:06,400 --> 00:10:08,840 Speaker 2: squaring off against the senator, and the senator said, are 209 00:10:08,840 --> 00:10:09,840 Speaker 2: you an independent agency? 210 00:10:09,880 --> 00:10:12,000 Speaker 3: And he says, well, you know, and he goes, wait, your. 211 00:10:11,920 --> 00:10:15,240 Speaker 2: Website says you're an independent agency. And are you saying 212 00:10:15,240 --> 00:10:17,640 Speaker 2: the website is wrong? What's happening there? 213 00:10:17,880 --> 00:10:20,880 Speaker 8: From the talkbacks, Hey guys, a great show tonight, loll 214 00:10:20,960 --> 00:10:24,480 Speaker 8: about a senator referencing the Internet to find out that 215 00:10:24,520 --> 00:10:27,960 Speaker 8: he's wrong about the FCC being an independent you know, 216 00:10:28,120 --> 00:10:31,560 Speaker 8: I mean really, Oh, man, I can't trust the Internet. 217 00:10:31,720 --> 00:10:33,920 Speaker 8: I feel old. I feel old. I'm sorry. I just 218 00:10:33,920 --> 00:10:36,800 Speaker 8: thought i'd coment on that great show Fellas stuck out 219 00:10:36,800 --> 00:10:39,079 Speaker 8: here on this two ten truck fire. 220 00:10:40,200 --> 00:10:43,920 Speaker 2: Sorry, buddy, Yeah, no, I get your point, but it 221 00:10:43,960 --> 00:10:47,200 Speaker 2: is the official government website that lays out it's not 222 00:10:47,400 --> 00:10:49,839 Speaker 2: just I get what you're saying. 223 00:10:50,559 --> 00:10:52,320 Speaker 3: Oh, you can't believe everything you're read on the internet. 224 00:10:52,400 --> 00:10:55,760 Speaker 2: Yes, but also it is an official website from a 225 00:10:55,880 --> 00:11:01,800 Speaker 2: US official government agency, so it is kind of considered legitimate, 226 00:11:02,400 --> 00:11:05,360 Speaker 2: or I guess it should have been just not yes, 227 00:11:05,440 --> 00:11:10,760 Speaker 2: not speaking of legitimate. Evidently, there are a couple of 228 00:11:11,720 --> 00:11:16,800 Speaker 2: massive YouTube channels that just got pulled because they were 229 00:11:16,800 --> 00:11:23,360 Speaker 2: too popular. They were making a bunch of well slop 230 00:11:24,280 --> 00:11:29,400 Speaker 2: and studios didn't like it. No, Ironically, the story you're 231 00:11:29,400 --> 00:11:31,480 Speaker 2: about to hear is coming from an AI who also 232 00:11:32,160 --> 00:11:34,280 Speaker 2: has some sort of self awareness. 233 00:11:34,640 --> 00:11:36,079 Speaker 7: YouTube just did something insane. 234 00:11:36,360 --> 00:11:38,960 Speaker 9: Two massive channels with over a billion views, famous for 235 00:11:39,000 --> 00:11:42,400 Speaker 9: their AI generated fake movie trailers, just got completely banned 236 00:11:42,400 --> 00:11:45,679 Speaker 9: from YouTube. Gone poof. This isn't just a slap on 237 00:11:45,720 --> 00:11:48,120 Speaker 9: the wrist. This is YouTube drawing a line in the sand. 238 00:11:48,320 --> 00:11:50,680 Speaker 2: Oh God, let me tell you A telltale sign of 239 00:11:50,720 --> 00:11:55,359 Speaker 2: AI writing is when you hear this isn't just blah, 240 00:11:55,480 --> 00:11:59,440 Speaker 2: it's blah, or it's not X, it's y. 241 00:12:01,240 --> 00:12:04,360 Speaker 3: When you hear that, you're gonna go that's AI. 242 00:12:05,520 --> 00:12:07,600 Speaker 2: And if you write that way, you need to change 243 00:12:07,600 --> 00:12:09,360 Speaker 2: how you write because people assume that you're AI. 244 00:12:09,559 --> 00:12:11,480 Speaker 9: This isn't just a slap on the wrist. This is 245 00:12:11,520 --> 00:12:13,800 Speaker 9: YouTube drawing a line in the sand. What I find 246 00:12:13,840 --> 00:12:16,280 Speaker 9: incredibly interesting is this isn't just about misleading. 247 00:12:16,600 --> 00:12:19,000 Speaker 3: See, this isn't just about because this. 248 00:12:19,000 --> 00:12:20,520 Speaker 7: Isn't just about misleading content. 249 00:12:20,679 --> 00:12:23,360 Speaker 9: It's about the rise of AI's power to create that 250 00:12:23,400 --> 00:12:24,680 Speaker 9: misleading content. 251 00:12:24,640 --> 00:12:27,960 Speaker 3: So that just in ten seconds, it did it twice. 252 00:12:28,040 --> 00:12:29,600 Speaker 3: This isn't just X. 253 00:12:29,720 --> 00:12:32,240 Speaker 9: It's why this could be a preview of how big 254 00:12:32,280 --> 00:12:35,559 Speaker 9: platforms will tackle AI generated fakes across the board. Does 255 00:12:35,600 --> 00:12:37,760 Speaker 9: this mean a crackdown on all AI made content that 256 00:12:37,800 --> 00:12:38,760 Speaker 9: isn't clearly labeled? 257 00:12:38,920 --> 00:12:39,240 Speaker 3: I hope. 258 00:12:39,280 --> 00:12:41,719 Speaker 9: So the future of creative AI on these platforms just 259 00:12:41,760 --> 00:12:43,880 Speaker 9: got a lot more complicated. And you might be thinking 260 00:12:43,920 --> 00:12:46,520 Speaker 9: this is quite ironic, considering I'm an AI avatar. But 261 00:12:46,559 --> 00:12:49,760 Speaker 9: I'm not providing misinformation. I'm presenting human commentary in an 262 00:12:49,800 --> 00:12:52,360 Speaker 9: efficient way. Smash that like button comment. 263 00:12:52,440 --> 00:12:56,000 Speaker 2: But I'm not see three times in the forty five seconds, 264 00:12:56,480 --> 00:12:59,440 Speaker 2: it's not just X, it's why, right. 265 00:12:59,240 --> 00:13:02,480 Speaker 9: But I'm not providing misinformation. I'm presenting human commentary in 266 00:13:02,520 --> 00:13:05,320 Speaker 9: an efficient way. Smash that like button, comment your thoughts 267 00:13:05,360 --> 00:13:07,520 Speaker 9: and subscribe for more mind blowing tech news. 268 00:13:07,960 --> 00:13:09,520 Speaker 3: Did you smash that subscribe button? 269 00:13:09,640 --> 00:13:09,720 Speaker 4: No? 270 00:13:10,120 --> 00:13:13,599 Speaker 3: And I like the emphasis on button smash that like smash. 271 00:13:13,240 --> 00:13:15,520 Speaker 7: That smash that like button. 272 00:13:15,520 --> 00:13:18,520 Speaker 2: Button burn all of it, all of it. Don't you 273 00:13:18,559 --> 00:13:21,480 Speaker 2: love though that people are rejecting this on mass? I mean, 274 00:13:22,200 --> 00:13:24,520 Speaker 2: people finally seem to have reached their limit on this 275 00:13:25,040 --> 00:13:27,520 Speaker 2: and they know they're being sold a bunch of horse 276 00:13:27,600 --> 00:13:32,000 Speaker 2: pucky and they're just saying no, flat out, yes, creator 277 00:13:32,240 --> 00:13:34,600 Speaker 2: more nuanced than that, but yes, So first of all, well, 278 00:13:34,640 --> 00:13:37,240 Speaker 2: let me credit that that's VFMT tech and AI that 279 00:13:37,240 --> 00:13:38,320 Speaker 2: that created the story. 280 00:13:38,360 --> 00:13:40,839 Speaker 3: I want to make sure I credit the machine, of course, 281 00:13:40,920 --> 00:13:43,440 Speaker 3: whatever I would say. 282 00:13:43,600 --> 00:13:46,040 Speaker 2: Yes, there are people like my son, for instance, who 283 00:13:46,080 --> 00:13:50,160 Speaker 2: is a high YouTube consumer, and he says anything that 284 00:13:50,200 --> 00:13:53,160 Speaker 2: comes on that is AI he immediately just he doesn't 285 00:13:53,160 --> 00:13:55,320 Speaker 2: even if it's something he's interested in, he just moves 286 00:13:55,320 --> 00:13:57,800 Speaker 2: off of it. I can't tell you how much of 287 00:13:57,840 --> 00:14:01,720 Speaker 2: the information that I find when I'm looking for news clips, 288 00:14:01,760 --> 00:14:05,319 Speaker 2: actuality stories, whatever it is for the show, it is 289 00:14:05,960 --> 00:14:08,400 Speaker 2: all AI generated. I mean, unless I am getting it 290 00:14:08,520 --> 00:14:12,760 Speaker 2: straight from ABC seven or Fox eleven or a. 291 00:14:12,720 --> 00:14:14,760 Speaker 3: News nation or something, which are some sources I use 292 00:14:15,520 --> 00:14:16,040 Speaker 3: if I go. 293 00:14:17,080 --> 00:14:19,480 Speaker 2: For instance, we had a story tonight about gen X 294 00:14:19,480 --> 00:14:23,160 Speaker 2: being overlooked by retailers at the holiday season. If I 295 00:14:23,160 --> 00:14:26,880 Speaker 2: were to say gen X overlooked by holiday retailers, most 296 00:14:26,920 --> 00:14:28,880 Speaker 2: everything that comes up would be some sort of an 297 00:14:28,960 --> 00:14:34,880 Speaker 2: AI generated story, AI voiced AI generated from It's cheap 298 00:14:35,560 --> 00:14:37,440 Speaker 2: and they can just put this slop out and it 299 00:14:37,560 --> 00:14:42,360 Speaker 2: costs them just about nothing. The problem is it's garbage. Sadly, 300 00:14:42,440 --> 00:14:44,640 Speaker 2: I'm starting to see this pop up elsewhere. So while 301 00:14:44,760 --> 00:14:46,960 Speaker 2: many of us are rejecting this mark to your point, Yeah, 302 00:14:47,000 --> 00:14:49,280 Speaker 2: flat out rejecting it. Going No, I can see through it, 303 00:14:49,360 --> 00:14:54,680 Speaker 2: and don't don't give me this slop. Pre rolls on 304 00:14:54,720 --> 00:14:59,200 Speaker 2: YouTube videos right now seem like they're almost all AI generated. 305 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:03,800 Speaker 2: And I actually saw some of those videos in my 306 00:15:04,160 --> 00:15:07,280 Speaker 2: studio from my day job. I've got monitors up with 307 00:15:07,320 --> 00:15:09,240 Speaker 2: all the different twenty four hour news channels on it, 308 00:15:09,520 --> 00:15:12,080 Speaker 2: and News Nation occupies one of those monitors, and it 309 00:15:12,160 --> 00:15:15,880 Speaker 2: was running commercials and it was the same AI generated 310 00:15:15,880 --> 00:15:17,240 Speaker 2: commercials that I had seen on YouTube. 311 00:15:17,240 --> 00:15:19,160 Speaker 3: I went, I know that commercial it's AI. 312 00:15:20,400 --> 00:15:24,280 Speaker 2: So as much as yes, some people are rejecting it, 313 00:15:25,160 --> 00:15:30,720 Speaker 2: advertisers aren't, and and the networks that run those commercials 314 00:15:30,760 --> 00:15:34,200 Speaker 2: aren't rejecting it. That's a big concern to me. That's 315 00:15:34,240 --> 00:15:36,920 Speaker 2: a big worry of mine because that means that they're 316 00:15:36,960 --> 00:15:40,480 Speaker 2: willing to compromise the authenticity of their own network. Well, 317 00:15:40,600 --> 00:15:43,400 Speaker 2: you could never call me an out of control optimist, 318 00:15:43,440 --> 00:15:45,640 Speaker 2: but the fact that people react like you're handing them 319 00:15:45,640 --> 00:15:50,040 Speaker 2: a turd when they see anything at all that's AI, 320 00:15:50,160 --> 00:15:53,800 Speaker 2: they really viscerally dislike it, that's hopeful to me. So 321 00:15:53,800 --> 00:16:00,840 Speaker 2: those two channels got scrapped taken off of YouTube and 322 00:16:00,960 --> 00:16:07,040 Speaker 2: banned permanently, I guess is what they're saying. Because because 323 00:16:07,080 --> 00:16:12,720 Speaker 2: they were creating fake movie trailers for real ips, and 324 00:16:13,000 --> 00:16:16,479 Speaker 2: so imagine that they come out with a fake Fantastic 325 00:16:16,520 --> 00:16:19,080 Speaker 2: four trailer. Oh they have Yeah, yeah, they did, right, 326 00:16:19,120 --> 00:16:20,560 Speaker 2: and that was one of them that got them in trouble. 327 00:16:20,760 --> 00:16:24,880 Speaker 2: Imagine if you are if you are the who owns 328 00:16:25,480 --> 00:16:26,080 Speaker 2: who owns that? 329 00:16:26,280 --> 00:16:28,880 Speaker 3: Is that the what Marvel? Is it? Marvel? That is 330 00:16:28,960 --> 00:16:30,000 Speaker 3: fantastic way it is? 331 00:16:30,040 --> 00:16:32,560 Speaker 2: Okay, So imagine if you're Disney and that stuff pops 332 00:16:32,640 --> 00:16:37,840 Speaker 2: up there, you go, No, that's our IP, So no, 333 00:16:38,040 --> 00:16:40,800 Speaker 2: you can't do that. That's a copyright infringement. And they're like, ah, 334 00:16:40,800 --> 00:16:44,000 Speaker 2: but people really love our fake trailers. Okay, well you 335 00:16:44,040 --> 00:16:49,200 Speaker 2: can't start using IP without permission. So your host so 336 00:16:49,520 --> 00:16:51,960 Speaker 2: kind of glad to see that, Glad to see YouTube 337 00:16:51,960 --> 00:16:54,280 Speaker 2: taking a stand. However, we have a number of other 338 00:16:54,360 --> 00:16:57,440 Speaker 2: creators that are saying that's not enough. It's got to 339 00:16:57,480 --> 00:17:00,840 Speaker 2: go further. What Hollywood is doing right now and how 340 00:17:00,880 --> 00:17:08,720 Speaker 2: this could play bigle into the coming contract negotiations so 341 00:17:08,760 --> 00:17:10,400 Speaker 2: we can try to avoid another shutdown. 342 00:17:10,400 --> 00:17:15,160 Speaker 1: As next you're listening to KFI AM six forty on demand. 343 00:17:16,800 --> 00:17:19,639 Speaker 3: We were just discussing the AI. 344 00:17:21,000 --> 00:17:24,600 Speaker 2: That the AI takeover in Hollywood and how so many 345 00:17:24,600 --> 00:17:28,720 Speaker 2: people are creating slop using AI. Got a couple of 346 00:17:28,840 --> 00:17:33,280 Speaker 2: big YouTube channels just permanently banned, and now you've got 347 00:17:33,320 --> 00:17:39,800 Speaker 2: a number of creators that are very concerned, and justifiably so. 348 00:17:40,720 --> 00:17:45,360 Speaker 2: It's not even the slop necessarily. Slop is terrible, But 349 00:17:45,720 --> 00:17:49,000 Speaker 2: it's not even the slop necessarily that really sets them off. 350 00:17:49,160 --> 00:17:53,240 Speaker 2: It's the idea that that slop could replace genuine. 351 00:17:53,240 --> 00:17:55,639 Speaker 3: Creatives, and I feel it. 352 00:17:55,800 --> 00:17:58,680 Speaker 2: Look, I'm in an industry that at some point somebody 353 00:17:58,720 --> 00:18:01,679 Speaker 2: may come along and say, why don't we just create 354 00:18:01,720 --> 00:18:05,800 Speaker 2: our own AI. We'll just create an avatar talk show host. 355 00:18:05,920 --> 00:18:09,760 Speaker 2: We already know that there's radio stations that have used 356 00:18:10,680 --> 00:18:15,320 Speaker 2: AI DJ's on the music side before, which I think 357 00:18:15,400 --> 00:18:18,080 Speaker 2: is a bit abhorrent, but somebody thought it was fun 358 00:18:18,520 --> 00:18:22,520 Speaker 2: and cutting edge. I find it to be a threat 359 00:18:23,000 --> 00:18:26,360 Speaker 2: to everything I have. I have no other employable job skills. 360 00:18:26,920 --> 00:18:29,399 Speaker 2: Imagine somebody walks into wherever it is you work and 361 00:18:29,440 --> 00:18:30,960 Speaker 2: you go, oh, what's your work history, and they go, oh, 362 00:18:31,000 --> 00:18:37,360 Speaker 2: I've done radio. You're gonna be like, oh cool next. 363 00:18:39,240 --> 00:18:40,080 Speaker 3: I have no plan. 364 00:18:41,320 --> 00:18:43,840 Speaker 2: I'm just hoping that things hang on and I don't 365 00:18:43,840 --> 00:18:45,520 Speaker 2: get replaced by AI in the next twenty years. 366 00:18:45,600 --> 00:18:49,760 Speaker 3: I got no plan. I got no plan. Nobody's gonna 367 00:18:49,800 --> 00:18:50,040 Speaker 3: hire me. 368 00:18:50,080 --> 00:18:52,280 Speaker 2: Nobody's gonna say, Oh, I bet that I bet that 369 00:18:52,320 --> 00:18:55,240 Speaker 2: guy's public speaking skills really translate. Well, you know, I 370 00:18:55,280 --> 00:18:57,520 Speaker 2: bet that guy is a very affable individual. I think 371 00:18:57,520 --> 00:19:01,919 Speaker 2: I'd like them to represent my company and do speaking 372 00:19:01,920 --> 00:19:05,760 Speaker 2: engagements or tours. No, no, no, fully capable of doing 373 00:19:05,800 --> 00:19:06,440 Speaker 2: all those things. 374 00:19:06,600 --> 00:19:07,560 Speaker 3: Is anybody going to see that? 375 00:19:07,720 --> 00:19:11,680 Speaker 2: No, So I'm screwed. If AI comes through, I'm screwed. 376 00:19:11,720 --> 00:19:14,680 Speaker 2: Which is why I'm pretty happy to see that. We've 377 00:19:14,680 --> 00:19:21,159 Speaker 2: got Hollywood insiders launching this Creator's Coalition on AI and 378 00:19:21,440 --> 00:19:25,119 Speaker 2: eighteen top entertainment professionals, including directors, actors, and producers, launching 379 00:19:25,119 --> 00:19:29,360 Speaker 2: This Creator's Coalition on AI to establish shared standards for 380 00:19:29,400 --> 00:19:31,720 Speaker 2: ethical AI use in creative work. 381 00:19:31,800 --> 00:19:33,119 Speaker 3: That from Hollywood Reporter. 382 00:19:34,800 --> 00:19:38,439 Speaker 2: The group says that they want transparent. Actually they've got 383 00:19:38,480 --> 00:19:42,680 Speaker 2: four pillars, all right, here's your four pillars, Okay, Transparency, 384 00:19:42,760 --> 00:19:47,720 Speaker 2: consent and compensation for content and data. That makes perfect 385 00:19:47,760 --> 00:19:51,760 Speaker 2: sense to me, job protection, and transition plans. And this 386 00:19:51,840 --> 00:19:54,080 Speaker 2: is going to be a big one, as you're gonna 387 00:19:54,119 --> 00:19:55,960 Speaker 2: have studios that are going to be looking at the 388 00:19:55,960 --> 00:19:58,760 Speaker 2: next sag After deal or the next Director's Guild deal, 389 00:19:58,840 --> 00:20:02,640 Speaker 2: or the next Writer's Guild deal, and they're gonna say, ooh, yeah, 390 00:20:02,640 --> 00:20:04,639 Speaker 2: we're not gonna protect your job because we could replace you. 391 00:20:05,520 --> 00:20:07,560 Speaker 2: We are at the point. Remember in the old days, 392 00:20:07,560 --> 00:20:11,280 Speaker 2: I'm old enough to remember these days when when you 393 00:20:11,359 --> 00:20:13,639 Speaker 2: might have a group, a union might go on strike, 394 00:20:14,200 --> 00:20:16,880 Speaker 2: and then the employer would threaten that union and say, 395 00:20:16,920 --> 00:20:19,679 Speaker 2: I will replace you. I'll bring in scab labor. I'll 396 00:20:19,720 --> 00:20:23,200 Speaker 2: have the scabs do your jobs. You're easily replaced, right, 397 00:20:24,720 --> 00:20:26,520 Speaker 2: And then the scabs are going and they would work 398 00:20:26,560 --> 00:20:28,400 Speaker 2: for less than what the union was demanding. 399 00:20:28,400 --> 00:20:30,480 Speaker 3: But you know what, the scabs still got a paycheck. 400 00:20:32,440 --> 00:20:33,879 Speaker 3: The scabs got a paycheck. 401 00:20:34,480 --> 00:20:37,159 Speaker 2: The unions despise them because they were undercutting the effort 402 00:20:37,200 --> 00:20:40,120 Speaker 2: to have collective bargaining, but the scabs, the very least 403 00:20:40,119 --> 00:20:43,720 Speaker 2: got a paycheck. Now you've got employers that are saying 404 00:20:43,760 --> 00:20:46,000 Speaker 2: I'll replace you. I don't even have to pay somebody else, 405 00:20:46,080 --> 00:20:52,560 Speaker 2: I'll replace you with the computer. To Mark's point, though, 406 00:20:52,600 --> 00:20:57,600 Speaker 2: in the last segment, people are responding, especially to any 407 00:20:57,600 --> 00:21:02,960 Speaker 2: sort of creative AI in a man that is reminiscent 408 00:21:03,080 --> 00:21:07,400 Speaker 2: of being handed a giant pile steaming turns. Oh good, 409 00:21:07,440 --> 00:21:10,679 Speaker 2: you want me to watch this new trailer. It's not 410 00:21:10,800 --> 00:21:13,159 Speaker 2: real and it's obviously not real. Oh you want me 411 00:21:13,200 --> 00:21:16,200 Speaker 2: to do this? No, that's not fun. That's a computer 412 00:21:16,280 --> 00:21:20,119 Speaker 2: telling me things. The novelty is wearing off on it 413 00:21:20,200 --> 00:21:24,639 Speaker 2: very quickly when it comes to the creative of AI, 414 00:21:26,119 --> 00:21:29,280 Speaker 2: and I see this, I'm hoping that we get a 415 00:21:29,320 --> 00:21:33,000 Speaker 2: bit of homeostasis on this right In the same way 416 00:21:33,160 --> 00:21:40,280 Speaker 2: that as as computers and desktops became ubiquitous in offices 417 00:21:40,560 --> 00:21:44,640 Speaker 2: around the country, that obviously replaced a lot of mail rooms, 418 00:21:44,720 --> 00:21:50,600 Speaker 2: for instance, it replaced file cabinets. It replaced some assistants 419 00:21:50,680 --> 00:21:53,600 Speaker 2: or secretaries or or whomever it might be that was 420 00:21:53,640 --> 00:21:56,520 Speaker 2: doing some of the some of the let's call it gruntwork, 421 00:21:56,760 --> 00:22:01,440 Speaker 2: going and finding information and piecing together and creating a 422 00:22:01,720 --> 00:22:04,160 Speaker 2: ledgers where all of a sudden, now it's on it's 423 00:22:04,200 --> 00:22:06,240 Speaker 2: on a program. It's not a quick books, it's on 424 00:22:06,240 --> 00:22:08,760 Speaker 2: a spreadsheet. It's all there. So it did change things, 425 00:22:09,960 --> 00:22:14,600 Speaker 2: and it did allow those other jobs to evolve, and 426 00:22:14,720 --> 00:22:17,320 Speaker 2: rather than necessarily replacing some people. Although it did wipe 427 00:22:17,320 --> 00:22:21,240 Speaker 2: out the mail rooms, but rather than replacing people, what 428 00:22:21,280 --> 00:22:23,440 Speaker 2: it did was it made the people that were doing 429 00:22:23,480 --> 00:22:28,200 Speaker 2: it more productive. If companies think that AI is simply 430 00:22:28,440 --> 00:22:32,000 Speaker 2: a plug and play replacement for genuine creatives, they're gonna 431 00:22:32,040 --> 00:22:34,320 Speaker 2: get burned. At least that's what I'd like to believe. 432 00:22:36,040 --> 00:22:40,080 Speaker 2: If they look at AI as an opportunity to enhance 433 00:22:40,119 --> 00:22:43,320 Speaker 2: what they have, I think that could be very beneficial. 434 00:22:43,640 --> 00:22:45,280 Speaker 2: And this is what you're going to see the union 435 00:22:45,320 --> 00:22:48,320 Speaker 2: start fighting for. So they want transparency, consent and compensation 436 00:22:48,400 --> 00:22:50,359 Speaker 2: for any content and data that AI is used to 437 00:22:50,359 --> 00:22:50,800 Speaker 2: train with. 438 00:22:51,040 --> 00:22:51,240 Speaker 3: Right. 439 00:22:51,440 --> 00:22:54,280 Speaker 2: They want job protection and transition plans so that when 440 00:22:54,320 --> 00:22:58,600 Speaker 2: we do have some jobs that evolve, that there are 441 00:22:58,640 --> 00:23:01,879 Speaker 2: plans for those people. Those individuals, Hey, here's your upskilling. 442 00:23:02,680 --> 00:23:05,800 Speaker 2: We're going to replace this position. But as a result, 443 00:23:05,800 --> 00:23:08,840 Speaker 2: we're gonna send you, We're gonna give you education credits 444 00:23:09,080 --> 00:23:12,800 Speaker 2: for upskilling somewhere else. They went guardrails against misuse and 445 00:23:12,840 --> 00:23:15,520 Speaker 2: deep fakes. That's massive, and they also want to safeguard 446 00:23:15,600 --> 00:23:19,000 Speaker 2: humanity in the creative process. And this goes back to 447 00:23:19,040 --> 00:23:21,920 Speaker 2: what Mark was talking about when he said that if 448 00:23:21,920 --> 00:23:25,960 Speaker 2: it's AI created slop, people recognize it very quickly. We've 449 00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:29,600 Speaker 2: always said in our business that you have to be 450 00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:33,560 Speaker 2: authentic because the audience will know if you're not authentic. 451 00:23:34,560 --> 00:23:37,040 Speaker 2: I think some audiences depending on what it is, because 452 00:23:37,040 --> 00:23:39,600 Speaker 2: there are plenty of grifters out there, and some audiences go, 453 00:23:40,320 --> 00:23:42,679 Speaker 2: I know it's not authentic, but I like it. It's in 454 00:23:42,760 --> 00:23:47,480 Speaker 2: my wheelhouse. It's it's fine, okay, but at least you know, 455 00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:50,880 Speaker 2: going in right like, you can suss that out. We're 456 00:23:50,920 --> 00:23:53,920 Speaker 2: pretty good as humans at picking out when somebody's being real, 457 00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:56,920 Speaker 2: when they're not, and when it's ai. 458 00:23:57,280 --> 00:23:58,640 Speaker 3: Pretty good at figuring out that. 459 00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:06,280 Speaker 2: You're an avatar and nobody talks that way and that's garbage. 460 00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:06,719 Speaker 3: All right. 461 00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:10,760 Speaker 2: Space rocks they behave like rocks. Right, So, now you've 462 00:24:10,760 --> 00:24:12,680 Speaker 2: got a space rock. It's wobbling and it's pointing the 463 00:24:12,720 --> 00:24:14,800 Speaker 2: wrong way. That is not how space rocks are supposed 464 00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:17,560 Speaker 2: to behave. Astronomers noticed something very strange before this object 465 00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:21,320 Speaker 2: even got close to the sun. We are at the 466 00:24:21,359 --> 00:24:25,960 Speaker 2: precipice perhaps of contact. What the wobble is telling us 467 00:24:26,119 --> 00:24:27,080 Speaker 2: is net. 468 00:24:27,160 --> 00:24:30,960 Speaker 1: You're listening to KFI AM six forty on demand. 469 00:24:32,520 --> 00:24:36,159 Speaker 2: Chris Merril KFI AM six forty more stimulating talk. And 470 00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:38,840 Speaker 2: right at at ten o'clock, George Norian Coast to coast 471 00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:39,960 Speaker 2: take over the airwaves. 472 00:24:40,080 --> 00:24:42,960 Speaker 3: George, what do we have to look forward to this evening? 473 00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:46,200 Speaker 6: First, first couple hours, we're going to talk about how 474 00:24:46,359 --> 00:24:50,600 Speaker 6: artificial intelligence could change our lives. Then later on a 475 00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:54,720 Speaker 6: little angel intervention from a former radio talk show it's 476 00:24:54,800 --> 00:24:56,119 Speaker 6: not coast to coast. 477 00:24:56,119 --> 00:24:59,920 Speaker 2: Oh boy, how about that that radio talk show host. 478 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:03,119 Speaker 6: It's a big time you get from Cleveland. 479 00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:07,280 Speaker 2: Oh baby, love that love my great legs talk show hosts. 480 00:25:07,280 --> 00:25:09,280 Speaker 2: All right, pass along our best George, thank you so much, 481 00:25:09,280 --> 00:25:12,520 Speaker 2: my friend, very good. All right, a great legs guy, 482 00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:15,439 Speaker 2: myself and uh, Mark, I know. 483 00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:16,800 Speaker 3: Do you recognize this sound? 484 00:25:20,320 --> 00:25:24,399 Speaker 2: It sounds like possibly ice in a glass, one of 485 00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:28,080 Speaker 2: the shorter glasses which are meant to contain Let's see, 486 00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:28,520 Speaker 2: what's the word. 487 00:25:28,520 --> 00:25:29,200 Speaker 3: I'm looking for? 488 00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:32,720 Speaker 2: A cocktail. I believe that's a low ball. We call 489 00:25:32,760 --> 00:25:38,000 Speaker 2: that glass? Okay, low ball? And what's in it? Gentleman 490 00:25:38,160 --> 00:25:43,560 Speaker 2: Jack Daniels, my friend, I see indeed, indeed, Well it's 491 00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:47,080 Speaker 2: a good thing. I'm not prone to jealousy, and it's 492 00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:50,600 Speaker 2: a good thing. You're such a complete prop. 493 00:25:53,280 --> 00:25:53,600 Speaker 9: Uh. 494 00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:54,960 Speaker 2: This is the time of the show where I always 495 00:25:54,960 --> 00:25:57,480 Speaker 2: pass along my niceties because I genuinely love these guys. 496 00:25:57,560 --> 00:26:01,800 Speaker 3: I absolutely do. Foosh, let me. 497 00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:05,760 Speaker 4: Just say, you're Theo's sexiest. I love you, I love you, 498 00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:06,679 Speaker 4: I love you, I love. 499 00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:10,280 Speaker 3: You, I love you, and I'm your biggest fear. Yeah. 500 00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:17,560 Speaker 2: Fun fact, that was me. You really are Phil Hendry. Yeah, Now, 501 00:26:17,560 --> 00:26:18,679 Speaker 2: I love you. I love you, I love you, I 502 00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:19,320 Speaker 2: love you, I love you. 503 00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:21,000 Speaker 3: You're You're. I'm a huge fan of you too. 504 00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:24,320 Speaker 2: So once, I have a great, great holiday here, my friend, 505 00:26:24,359 --> 00:26:27,320 Speaker 2: because I think I'm back on Sunday, and I think 506 00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:31,160 Speaker 2: Sunday is uh. It depends on how the football schedule 507 00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:33,119 Speaker 2: plays out for the following Sunday, but I think that 508 00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:36,600 Speaker 2: might be my last last show of the year. And then, uh, 509 00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:38,480 Speaker 2: I gotta say, I gotta say things to Matt. I 510 00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:41,600 Speaker 2: realized I got off the air yesterday. Matt's been producing 511 00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:44,240 Speaker 2: remotely and today he did a great job costant communication 512 00:26:44,280 --> 00:26:45,960 Speaker 2: with me. We had some we had some balls in 513 00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:48,160 Speaker 2: the air as the press conference was happening with that 514 00:26:48,160 --> 00:26:51,119 Speaker 2: that Brown and Mit shooter, and he did just a 515 00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:55,240 Speaker 2: great job while at the same time giving me whilst yeah, 516 00:26:55,400 --> 00:27:00,560 Speaker 2: whilst giving me a consistent and timely scoring updates on 517 00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:03,679 Speaker 2: the Seahawks Rams game because we weren't talking about it, 518 00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:05,679 Speaker 2: but by god, he knew we needed to know. So 519 00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:09,400 Speaker 2: you did a great job. So Matt producing remotely and 520 00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:11,639 Speaker 2: I felt bad. We got we got off the air 521 00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:14,359 Speaker 2: stor we got to say thank you and mark complete 522 00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:17,919 Speaker 2: pro love you, buddy. I'll be if I win, if 523 00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:19,800 Speaker 2: I win power Ball, I'm not giving you half. 524 00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:20,840 Speaker 3: I'm moving in with you. 525 00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:22,840 Speaker 2: Well, I will take care of you though, okay, because 526 00:27:22,840 --> 00:27:25,919 Speaker 2: that's I'll think you more generous than I expected. We 527 00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:28,840 Speaker 2: will look for some uh, we'll look for some opportunities. 528 00:27:29,119 --> 00:27:31,000 Speaker 2: We'll try to make your dreams come true. Well that 529 00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:34,600 Speaker 2: sounds right vague and noncommittal, So thank you. That's exactly 530 00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:36,880 Speaker 2: how I am too. I mean, you should have seen 531 00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:41,000 Speaker 2: my wedding nuptials. I was like, I promise to love, ish, 532 00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:46,960 Speaker 2: honor ish, cherish, ish you as long as. 533 00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:50,440 Speaker 3: There is life. Ish. 534 00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:54,199 Speaker 2: That was it, magically, it was it was special, very special. Well, 535 00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:58,440 Speaker 2: I can see how your wife is so attached. Yeah, yeah, 536 00:27:58,680 --> 00:28:03,320 Speaker 2: illegally attached to that three I at Liss. You know 537 00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:07,000 Speaker 2: that that comment, that interstellar comment. So tomorrow was the 538 00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:09,000 Speaker 2: day that it's the closest. I believe I think it's 539 00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:11,920 Speaker 2: tomorrow morning. When when when it's the closest to Earth. 540 00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:14,000 Speaker 2: And this is the one where that that Harvard professor 541 00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:18,359 Speaker 2: was saying that it could be aliens. Avi lob was 542 00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:22,399 Speaker 2: his name who said it could be aliens? Uh report 543 00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:25,600 Speaker 2: from B. C. Begley about the three I and this 544 00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:29,720 Speaker 2: Avi Lobe just wrote an article that he published on 545 00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:33,640 Speaker 2: medium where he basically undermines his whole. 546 00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:37,960 Speaker 10: Argument the interstellar object three I at liss oh crap? 547 00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:40,840 Speaker 3: Is this another AI? So I think it's an AI? Voiceover? 548 00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:45,800 Speaker 10: These are terrible, once speculated by some, including Harvard astrophysicist 549 00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:46,440 Speaker 10: Avi Lobe. 550 00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:48,680 Speaker 2: Actually this is so bad. It sounds like a real 551 00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:50,680 Speaker 2: person trying to do a voiceover. 552 00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:54,960 Speaker 10: To be an alien technology or an alien spacecraft has 553 00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:57,840 Speaker 10: now been shown to behave like a typical comment. A 554 00:28:57,880 --> 00:29:01,520 Speaker 10: new study and research notes of the AAS finds that 555 00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:05,640 Speaker 10: its unusual motion is caused by natural quote outgassing. 556 00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:08,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, I got some natural motion from that too. 557 00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:12,400 Speaker 10: Where gas and dust expelled from its surface give it 558 00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:16,880 Speaker 10: small rocket like pushes, altering its speed, orbit and spin 559 00:29:17,560 --> 00:29:22,920 Speaker 10: measurements using NASA's Psychic Spacecraft and esay's Mars trace gas 560 00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:27,560 Speaker 10: orbiter indicate its acceleration, mass, and size are all comparable 561 00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:29,720 Speaker 10: to small solar system comments. 562 00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:32,960 Speaker 2: So basically, it is behaving in a way that we 563 00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:36,240 Speaker 2: didn't expect, but it's not exactly abnormal. 564 00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:37,960 Speaker 3: It can be explained through physics. 565 00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:41,480 Speaker 2: So the whole The Harvard professor who said this might 566 00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:46,520 Speaker 2: be aliens has now put out charts, shown the math. 567 00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:49,040 Speaker 2: He showed all of his work and said, hey, we 568 00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:53,600 Speaker 2: figured out why the tail leads it, why it doesn't 569 00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:55,520 Speaker 2: have a normal tail like we see in a comet, 570 00:29:55,960 --> 00:30:01,480 Speaker 2: and it showed what he called regular wobble. So they 571 00:30:01,560 --> 00:30:03,520 Speaker 2: just described it as the gas was escaping and that 572 00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:08,720 Speaker 2: gas was creating small wobbles. That wobbling was making the 573 00:30:08,760 --> 00:30:11,760 Speaker 2: stuff act in ways that we hadn't seen before. But 574 00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:17,640 Speaker 2: it's not unexplainable. And once again, while we couldn't explain 575 00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:21,760 Speaker 2: something and we said might be aliens, later on science 576 00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:23,280 Speaker 2: ends up explaining that very. 577 00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:26,240 Speaker 3: Thing Outgassing is a good word of the week, though. 578 00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:28,360 Speaker 2: I love that one. Actually, let's let's put that down. 579 00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:31,320 Speaker 2: You know, it's too bad. Merriam Webster already made their 580 00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:33,480 Speaker 2: decision in the year. Well there's always next year, And 581 00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:36,000 Speaker 2: so the comments, behaving as if it stopped at Taco 582 00:30:36,040 --> 00:30:37,120 Speaker 2: Bell on the way home from working. 583 00:30:37,120 --> 00:30:40,560 Speaker 3: It's outcasting, outca outgassing. That's exactly what you know. 584 00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:45,200 Speaker 2: Thank you. What's it take around here? Couldn't I couldn't 585 00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:48,560 Speaker 2: find it? All right, I love you guys. Have a 586 00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:50,400 Speaker 2: very Meryl Christmas. If I don't talk to you again, 587 00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:53,400 Speaker 2: I'm back on Sunday. And yeah, that's all I got. 588 00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:55,920 Speaker 2: George Nourry's next Chris Meryl. I Am six forty live 589 00:30:55,960 --> 00:30:56,960 Speaker 2: everywhere in the iHeartRadio 590 00:30:57,000 --> 00:31:00,760 Speaker 1: App, KFI demand