Speaker 1: All right back with Eddie and Rocky just a little
Speaker 1: while longer, but right before we do, we generally talk
Speaker 1: to our good friends from ABC News. Today no exception,
Speaker 1: we talked to our ferend Brad Garrett from ABC News
Speaker 1: and Crime, Terrorism and List for ABC and Brad, Minneapolis,
Speaker 1: of all places, has become the epicenter. It's a pressure cooker.
Speaker 1: What the hell is going on up there?
Speaker 2: So you know, you have a situation where the local
Speaker 2: law enforcement and I guess with the blessing of the
Speaker 2: governor and the mayor are not helping Ice and customs
Speaker 2: of water protection with immigration enforcement. Now that translates into
Speaker 2: they clearly come behind them. Like I think last night
Speaker 2: was an example, Ice shot a guy in the northern
Speaker 2: part of Minneapolis. They obviously respond to that because the
Speaker 2: shooting itself is in their jurisdiction. But the short answer
Speaker 2: is it's Ice kind of on their own as far
Speaker 2: as immigration enforcement. And you know that in itself creates
Speaker 2: problems because it's not their city. It's Minneapolis. The city
Speaker 2: and the cops know it much better than federal law
Speaker 2: enforcement would. So there's all sorts of safety and security
Speaker 2: issues in my view, if they're not participating. I get
Speaker 2: why they're not participating, in particular with the way it
Speaker 2: seems that ICE is approaching this, but you know that's
Speaker 2: that's kind of one of the reasons we're having this
Speaker 2: conversation and this topic seems to not go away.
Speaker 3: And ICE is enforcing that the federal law. But let
Speaker 3: me ask you this, Brad, is are the local police
Speaker 3: helping protect ICE. I don't think anybody will expect them
Speaker 3: to cooperate with ICE and doing their job, which is
Speaker 3: to remove criminal, illegal aliens. But like when these demonstrators
Speaker 3: are using their cars to block them in and putting
Speaker 3: bullhorns up in their ears and yelling profanities and getting
Speaker 3: close to them, as local law enforcement helping keep them
Speaker 3: at bay and get those folks away from ICE and
Speaker 3: let them do their job.
Speaker 2: Or no, well, they certainly are once it turns into
Speaker 2: an what they call an unlawful assembly, so that's when
Speaker 2: they start throwing stuff at ICE. To your point, blocking
Speaker 2: the roads, they will clearly intervene because that's a public
Speaker 2: safety issue for the city of Minneapolis. But the more
Speaker 2: traditional way you would see this, so in other words,
Speaker 2: leave ICE and what they're doing for a second and
Speaker 2: just go with me to a rest a guy on
Speaker 2: a homicide case that's a really violent dude, has a
Speaker 2: lot of guns. It would be me with agents, with
Speaker 2: my SWAT team and with the DC Police, and the
Speaker 2: DC Police would do the perimeter around the house or
Speaker 2: houses we're going to go into to arrest people, to
Speaker 2: you know, obviously protect us, but also just to keep
Speaker 2: people away in case something goes south when you commit
Speaker 2: these sort of dynamic entries. So that's the typical and
Speaker 2: you would think that, you know, in the day to
Speaker 2: day operation, that that Minneapolis Police could do that, and
Speaker 2: they could. I guess there's just a lot of reasons
Speaker 2: politically and otherwise that they're not doing that. And and
Speaker 2: you know, also the other problem is because ICE I
Speaker 2: think through mandates of upper of their upper management and
Speaker 2: obviously all the way to the president, is that I
Speaker 2: think they have quotas on the number of people there
Speaker 2: are to arrest a day, and I think they're really high.
Speaker 2: And so the idea that you could use sort of
Speaker 2: these organized majored arrests, I do think they do some
Speaker 2: of those, but they also go into neighborhoods. It sounds
Speaker 2: like to meet your go to seven eleven's or home depot,
Speaker 2: They go into factories, they do all sorts of places
Speaker 2: where they just start id people and if you're illegal,
Speaker 2: that hook you up and take you off, right.
Speaker 3: But I mean, everything I've heard is that the vast
Speaker 3: majority is they get you know, they do their research
Speaker 3: and they get information that so and so is here illegally,
Speaker 3: and most of the time they're going after the ones
Speaker 3: that are criminals with records in arresting. Then what would
Speaker 3: the police not want to help with that? As you said,
Speaker 3: it's their city. Why haven't the police, you know, arrested
Speaker 3: some of these folks again, especially the criminal illegal aliens,
Speaker 3: And so I guess the ice would say, well, you
Speaker 3: haven't done the job and done this, so now the
Speaker 3: federal government's got to come in and do it.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I don't know that it's that simple. I'll tell
Speaker 2: you this that each city, I'm going to guess Minneapolis
Speaker 2: has this because it's the city of size that there
Speaker 2: were fugitive task forces in every city that the US
Speaker 2: Marshals run that and they serve day in and day out,
Speaker 2: all sorts of warrents, federal warrants, local warrants. There are
Speaker 2: a task force and there'll be many APOS cops, they'll
Speaker 2: be Saint Paul cops, they'll be the Minnesota State Police,
Speaker 2: they'll be most agencies are on these task forces and
Speaker 2: they go out and arrest people. So, you know, I
Speaker 2: don't know if it's so clear that that that part
Speaker 2: of this job is not being done. If somebody's going
Speaker 2: to warrant the system for murder or attempted murder or
Speaker 2: whatever it is, that task force, as well as the
Speaker 2: detectives and agents who have that particular case, they're going
Speaker 2: to be looking for the guy if in fact they
Speaker 2: haven't found them. So I my sense would be the
Speaker 2: following that there are people out there clearly that are illegal,
Speaker 2: that are doing bad things, and maybe they'll have a
Speaker 2: record that maybe they won't have, or maybe they'll just
Speaker 2: have a record they're actually not wanted as we speak,
Speaker 2: but they do have a record, and because they violated
Speaker 2: the immigration laws, it allows ICE and Customs of Border
Speaker 2: Protection to arrest them. You know, it's hard for me
Speaker 2: to believe that the majority of the cases that they arrest,
Speaker 2: and I don't know the answer to this I'm discussing,
Speaker 2: are I think there's a lot of people the arrest
Speaker 2: that are illegal but are law by me. They have
Speaker 2: a job, they have kids, they go to church, they
Speaker 2: do all sorts of things, and you know, every probably
Speaker 2: every neighborhood in the country. And so I think that's
Speaker 2: where the rub comes. I don't think anybody liberal or
Speaker 2: conservative would argue that, you know, some of these bad folks,
Speaker 2: it doesn't really matter whether they're illegal as much as
Speaker 2: it matters they're violent and bad to pick them up
Speaker 2: and use immigration to to force them back to wherever.
Speaker 1: All right, well, we'll see how this is going to
Speaker 1: obviously be shaken out for a long time. Thank god
Speaker 1: it's the winter time. Maybe that tamps a little bit
Speaker 1: of this down because I can imagine if this was
Speaker 1: all going on different warm weather. Yeah, with the with that, Brad,
Speaker 1: we will let you go man, Thank you so much anytime.
Speaker 3: Kick care guys, Thanks very much.
Speaker 1: Brad, Brad Garrett, ABC News.
Speaker 3: And another news ed. Let's go ahead and lighten it
Speaker 3: up here a little bit. A couple of transfer portal
Speaker 3: quarterback pieces of news for you. And we talked about TJ. Finley.
Speaker 3: He was on his sixth school in six years. Well
Speaker 3: he's now just committed to his seventh school in seven years.
Speaker 3: He's been at LSU Auburn, Texas State, to Lane Western Kentucky,
Speaker 3: Georgia State, and now he's going to play for Incarnate
Speaker 3: Word in his seventh year plane football.
Speaker 1: That's insane, man, And not.
Speaker 3: To be outdone. There is a quarterback and I remember
Speaker 3: this guy like a while ago. His name is Jake Garcia. Okay,
Speaker 3: he is now also back in the transfer portal. The
Speaker 3: former four star quarterback is in search of his fifth
Speaker 3: different college football program in six years and his eleventh
Speaker 3: different school in ten years. I repeat, his eleventh different
Speaker 3: school in ten years.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry.
Speaker 3: As not the oldest player in college football, but he's
Speaker 3: certainly the most traveled. The California native was one of
Speaker 3: the most sought after players in the recruiting class of
Speaker 3: twenty twenty one. Garcia was ranked as one of the
Speaker 3: top best players at his position, a four star prospect.
Speaker 3: Other names that were ranked in that year Caleb Williams,
Speaker 3: Quinn Ewers, J. J. McCarthy, Drake May Jackson dark a
Speaker 3: lot of hype about him. Originally from California, started at
Speaker 3: Long Beach Polly, but his head coach left after his
Speaker 3: freshman season. So this we're talking high schools Okay. Garcia
Speaker 3: then transferred to Narbone High School in the Harbor City
Speaker 3: area of Los Angeles. Have We played only one season there,
Speaker 3: the program was ruled ineligible for the playoffs, so he left.
Speaker 3: That left him. Then he went to Lahabra High School
Speaker 3: in Orange County. Then the pandemic hit. Garcia transferred a
Speaker 3: third time when the California Interscholastic Federation canceled all sports
Speaker 3: in twenty twenty one. Okay, his parents had to legally
Speaker 3: separate as husband and wife so their son could be
Speaker 3: ruled eligible to play in a different state. He even
Speaker 3: rolled at Valdosta High School, which is a big time
Speaker 3: high school in George. I remember this like they didn't
Speaker 3: want to get a divorce, but they had a divorce,
Speaker 3: so that enabled him to move to his fourth high school.
Speaker 1: That's being committed to your kid right there.
Speaker 3: He won the starting job. He started only one game.
Speaker 3: Some other things happened. Transferred to fourth time Okay, Then
Speaker 3: he committed to USC. After all that, he still got
Speaker 3: a scholarship. Committed to USC, then de committed, then signed
Speaker 3: with Miami on December sixteenth of twenty twenty. He then
Speaker 3: two years with the Hurricane that didn't work out. It
Speaker 3: was a third string quarterback. Let's see. Then. Uh, then
Speaker 3: he went to Missouri. Then that didn't work out there,
Speaker 3: let's see. Then he went to I think it was it. Yeah,
Speaker 3: he went to ECU East Carolina. That didn't work out.
Speaker 3: Re entered the portal during spring practice labor at last
Speaker 3: April committed to Michigan, never saw the field. It's announced
Speaker 3: this week that Garcia is back in the transfer portal,
Speaker 3: with shockingly one year of eligibility remaining. So again, this
Speaker 3: is it's just I don't know, man, He's on his
Speaker 3: fifth different college. But then again, this is his eleventh
Speaker 3: different school in ten years if you count what four
Speaker 3: or five high school programs that he went to. That's
Speaker 3: gotta be exhausting at some point, don't you gotta go?
Speaker 3: I understand like persevering and like you gotta fight through
Speaker 3: the hard times, But at some point is the universe
Speaker 3: not telling you?
Speaker 1: You know, it's it's not working now, It's right, this
Speaker 1: is not your future, son, Move along. Yeah, it's wild.
Speaker 1: I uh, what is this going to do to the
Speaker 1: future of college football? Buddy? I mean, they have to
Speaker 1: do something about this. It's ridiculous.
Speaker 3: Everybody agreed it's ridiculous, but no one is in a
Speaker 3: position to actually have any teeth when it comes to
Speaker 3: implementing the rules. It's going to take to change it
Speaker 3: in high school. I mean, I'm telling you right now too,
Speaker 3: Like you know what Indiana's I think I said this
Speaker 3: the other day, but Indiana's roster the average age is
Speaker 3: twenty three years old. So these are grown men. These
Speaker 3: are no longer nineteen twenty year olds playing college. These
Speaker 3: are grown men. And that's going to be the future.
Speaker 3: And this is going to totally up to over head
Speaker 3: over heels high school recruiting. So if you're listening to
Speaker 3: me right now and you think that, you know, you
Speaker 3: got a son that plays high school football and you're
Speaker 3: wondering why he's not getting recruited, Well, you know, you know,
Speaker 3: maybe he's not good enough, but also he could be
Speaker 3: good enough if this were still the year two thousand.
Speaker 3: But it's twenty twenty six and these colleges are prioritizing
Speaker 3: older players with experience college players. So there's a much
Speaker 3: much smaller amount of high school recruiting that has done
Speaker 3: compared to years past, and you better understand it or
Speaker 3: it's going to be shocking to you.
Speaker 1: Well, this is like if the NFL just went totally
Speaker 1: more or less concentrated on free agency and just said, okay,
Speaker 1: well we have the draft, but whatever, let's concentrate on
Speaker 1: see what other rosters we can rob and move on
Speaker 1: that way, right, I mean, it seems to be that's
Speaker 1: what's going on to to some degree.
Speaker 3: But I think the difference is in the NFL draft.
Speaker 3: Those guys are you're a young man, but you're a
Speaker 3: grown man, and you know, you're talking the cream of
Speaker 3: the crop here. When you're you know, there's it's much
Speaker 3: more of a crapshoot. When you're trying to gauge the
Speaker 3: athletic future and potential and ability to play right away
Speaker 3: of a kid who is eighteen, you know, it's much
Speaker 3: harder to grasp. So yeah, it's it's whole new world's
Speaker 3: ever evolving.
Speaker 1: See how it all shakes out right now, We've got
Speaker 1: traffic and weather. What is going on