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Speaker 1: to our good friends from ABC News. Today no exception,

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Speaker 1: we talked to our ferend Brad Garrett from ABC News

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Speaker 1: and Crime, Terrorism and List for ABC and Brad, Minneapolis,

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Speaker 2: So you know, you have a situation where the local

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Speaker 3: And ICE is enforcing that the federal law. But let

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Speaker 2: Or no, well, they certainly are once it turns into

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Speaker 1: All right, well, we'll see how this is going to

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Speaker 1: obviously be shaken out for a long time. Thank god

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Speaker 3: Kick care guys, Thanks very much.

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Speaker 1: Brad, Brad Garrett, ABC News.

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Speaker 3: And another news ed. Let's go ahead and lighten it

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Speaker 1: That's being committed to your kid right there.

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Speaker 3: He won the starting job. He started only one game.

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Speaker 3: I understand like persevering and like you gotta fight through

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Speaker 1: You know, it's it's not working now, It's right, this

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Speaker 3: Everybody agreed it's ridiculous, but no one is in a

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Speaker 3: maybe he's not good enough, but also he could be

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Speaker 3: But it's twenty twenty six and these colleges are prioritizing

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Speaker 1: Well, this is like if the NFL just went totally

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Speaker 1: that way, right, I mean, it seems to be that's

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Speaker 1: what's going on to to some degree.

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Speaker 3: But I think the difference is in the NFL draft.

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Speaker 3: Those guys are you're a young man, but you're a

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Speaker 3: grown man, and you know, you're talking the cream of

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Speaker 3: the crop here. When you're you know, there's it's much

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Speaker 3: more of a crapshoot. When you're trying to gauge the

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Speaker 3: athletic future and potential and ability to play right away

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Speaker 3: of a kid who is eighteen, you know, it's much

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Speaker 3: harder to grasp. So yeah, it's it's whole new world's

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Speaker 3: ever evolving.

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Speaker 1: See how it all shakes out right now, We've got

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Speaker 1: traffic and weather. What is going on