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Speaker 1: This is a podcast from wor Now the wr Saturday

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Speaker 1: Morning Show.

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Speaker 2: Here's Larry Minty coming up this week on Saturday Morning.

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Speaker 2: As Operation Epic Fury continues, political analyst JC Polanco talks

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Speaker 2: about the possible political gain or fallout for Donald Trump.

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Speaker 2: I want to get you good morning to you. I

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Speaker 2: want to get your opinion on something. It's really fascinating

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Speaker 2: these airstrikes on Iran, and they're going extremely well right now,

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Speaker 2: but things could turn in a moment, especially when they

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Speaker 2: get to the point where somebody new has to take over.

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Speaker 2: And depending on how that goes and where that goes,

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Speaker 2: it's going to maybe decide the midterms. It's going to

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Speaker 2: decide the future of the Trump presidency. There's so much

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Speaker 2: on the line in that moment. Tell me what you

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Speaker 2: think could happen either way.

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Speaker 1: Well, that's a good question, you know. I know we

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Speaker 1: hate to conflate politics and war because we're talking about

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Speaker 1: the treasure of our country, which our soldiers, our troops

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Speaker 1: or marines are airmen, and I think about how important

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Speaker 1: they are, so conflating them is toff. But there are

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Speaker 1: political consequences to this decision. He is now a wartime president,

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Speaker 1: so President Trump is in a position right now where

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Speaker 1: he has to come out of this victorious. And that means,

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Speaker 1: and I think that most of you would agree listening,

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Speaker 1: that means a new regime in Iran that is understanding

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Speaker 1: of our country and understanding of Israel, and it's not

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Speaker 1: hell bent on destroying Israel, and we're moving off the

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Speaker 1: face of the earth, and isn't sponsoring terrorism around the world.

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Speaker 1: I mean, that would be victory for the president. I

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Speaker 1: think that Americans will reward that. However, there are some

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Speaker 1: issues that I think we have to think about. The

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Speaker 1: war is very unpopular right now because quite frankly, we

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Speaker 1: really don't know how this started. We got in. What's

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Speaker 1: going to be the result of this, and there's a

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Speaker 1: lot of uncertainty and the poll numbers are not in

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Speaker 1: his favor. So it's very important that his team is

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Speaker 1: direct and they have one uniform message. We can't get

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Speaker 1: one message from Secretary Rubio, then another one from Secretary

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Speaker 1: of Hexis, and then another one from the President because

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Speaker 1: that frustrates independence. So you got to have one uniform message.

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Speaker 1: So why you went in, what's the end result? What's

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Speaker 1: the end game here and what the success look like?

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Speaker 1: If not you're going to pay the political consequences a

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Speaker 1: few months from now.

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Speaker 2: Let's talk about the political consequences of Zora and Mom Donnie.

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Speaker 2: On Kathy Hokeel, we just got news over the last

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Speaker 2: couple of days that a budget's going to be presented

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Speaker 2: by both the Assembly and the Senate, and in it

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Speaker 2: what's expected to be in it is a tax on

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Speaker 2: the rich and a corporate tax, which Kathy Hockel says

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Speaker 2: she is not for it because she's running for reelection.

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Speaker 2: She doesn't want that running for reelection. It does seem

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Speaker 2: like there's going to be head to head battle, although

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Speaker 2: she says she's not nervous at all. What do you

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Speaker 2: make of all that? What could happen?

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Speaker 1: Look, I really believe that the governor is in a

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Speaker 1: strong position right now. She has to maintain her word,

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Speaker 1: which is she's not going to raise taxes in our

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Speaker 1: New Yorkers. She is representing a party right now that

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Speaker 1: is moving further and further to the left and is

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Speaker 1: making her life impossible in Albany. Without a doubt, Mayor

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Speaker 1: Mom Donnie did very well in a lot of these

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Speaker 1: Senate districts and Assembly districts throughout New York City. They

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Speaker 1: have the majority of the votes in Albany. If he

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Speaker 1: wants to get some tax increases, I'm sure they'll vote

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Speaker 1: for it. But there's one person that has to sign

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Speaker 1: that legislation. There's one person that has to be in

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Speaker 1: favor of it, and that's a governor. She's been very

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Speaker 1: clear that she's not going to do it. And this

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Speaker 1: is why. The fact is that when we say tax

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Speaker 1: the rich, we're talking about folks that could fall anywhere

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Speaker 1: from a bracket of three hundred thousand to one million dollars,

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Speaker 1: which are all on that same track, you know, within

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Speaker 1: And these are the people, Larry, that are paying a

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Speaker 1: majority of the collected revenue from our income taxes in

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Speaker 1: New York City that funds a lot of these social

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Speaker 1: services programs. And Larry, guess who gets to leave first?

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Speaker 1: If you text them another dollar, if you said the wealthy,

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Speaker 1: if you said the millionaire, you're absolutely right. They get

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Speaker 1: to leave easily. They can easily move somewhere else. And

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Speaker 1: at the end of the day, who's going to be

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Speaker 1: left paying the bill? Middle class New Yorkers? And that

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Speaker 1: is her issue. She knows that. She knows in twenty

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Speaker 1: ten we've lost almost two million New Yorkers. She knows

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Speaker 1: that we can't continue losing and bleeding New Yorkers to

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Speaker 1: red states. So she's not going to allow for an

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 1: It's going to be hard for her considering that there's

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Speaker 1: a supermajority of Democrats in the Senate, there's a supermajority

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Speaker 1: in the other House, and at the end of the day,

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Speaker 1: they can over turn a veto, but I highly doubt

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Speaker 1: they're going to do that to her during an election cycle.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, talk about the cold of personality. I mean, I

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Speaker 2: don't think that Zerimandani has had a great sixty plus

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Speaker 2: days in office. However, polls are coming out showing he's

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Speaker 2: not only the most popular mayor in recent years, in

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Speaker 2: a couple of decades, he's the most popular politician in

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Speaker 2: New York State. Can you explain that to me?

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Speaker 1: Yes, he has he's young, he speaks, he speaks so well.

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Speaker 1: He's very charismatic. When I say, his cadence is very

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Speaker 1: it's almost Obama like. And he's captivating. He's captivated the

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Speaker 1: New York City press, he's captivated the national press with

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Speaker 1: his presence, and quite frankly, I'll tell you this, during

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Speaker 1: the rise of Mayor Mamdani, he had the press act

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Speaker 1: as his offensive line, checting him against any income. So

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Speaker 1: that's what you have here and there. You know, all

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Speaker 1: the other politicians, they may not be as attractive, their

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Speaker 1: smile may not be a billion dollar smile, and you

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Speaker 1: know they they you know they're not going to be

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Speaker 1: as popular as the new shiny object. But look, it's

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Speaker 1: way too early to tell. We're talking about a mayor

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Speaker 1: who has to now figure out that governing is very

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Speaker 1: different than TikTok videos. This is one hundred and twenty

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Speaker 1: billion dollar budget. You have ten million people within the

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Speaker 1: confines of New York City. At any given day, anything

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Speaker 1: could go wrong. We saw what happened during the blizzard.

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Speaker 1: We saw twenty six New Yorkers died. We saw the

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Speaker 1: dismal response from city Hall. We're currently dealing with the

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Speaker 1: fact that this mayor wants to increase property taxes by

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Speaker 1: nine and a half percent on working class New Yorkers

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Speaker 1: who are paying property taxes. This is going to be

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Speaker 1: very detrimental to New Yorkers across the city. He's talked

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Speaker 1: about not bringing in an additional five thousand cops that

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Speaker 1: were on their way. This is going to have an

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Speaker 1: impact on the summer crime rate without a doubt. You

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Speaker 1: take a look at his decisions on phasing out the

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Speaker 1: gifted and talented programs. You take a look at how

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Speaker 1: he's ignored Statean Island when it comes to the universal

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Speaker 1: daycare for kids on the two by the way, about

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Speaker 1: thirty four thousand dollars a kid. You tell me what's

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Speaker 1: happening here with this kind of money. So there are

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Speaker 1: a lot of issues that we have. And every single day, Larry,

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Speaker 1: I wake up in the morning and I say to myself,

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Speaker 1: thank God, this man isn't getting everything he promised, because

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Speaker 1: we'd be in us serious mess. So when you ask me,

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Speaker 1: has he been successful keep us safe? But I really

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Speaker 1: hope you're not successful in raising taxes on New Yorkers.

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Speaker 1: And I really hope you're not successful on phasing out

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Speaker 1: these gifted and talented programs. I really hope you're not

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Speaker 1: successful in hurting Bovee gas.

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Speaker 2: We can wrap it up by just saying we hope

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Speaker 2: he's not successful with any of those things that he

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Speaker 2: said he was going to do. J. C. Polonko, political

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Speaker 2: analyst and University of Mount Saint Vincent Assistant professor and attorney.

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