1 00:00:00,600 --> 00:00:04,840 Speaker 1: Your home for October baseball. There is nothing like postseason baseball. 2 00:00:04,880 --> 00:00:08,720 Speaker 2: It's our American League Division Series postgame show, brought to 3 00:00:08,720 --> 00:00:12,240 Speaker 2: you by Seattle's postest sports book. Snow called me Casino 4 00:00:12,280 --> 00:00:16,079 Speaker 2: in Hotel your plays for a true in game betting experience. 5 00:00:16,440 --> 00:00:19,160 Speaker 2: Get in on the action at Seattle's close. It's snow 6 00:00:19,200 --> 00:00:23,000 Speaker 2: call me Casino in Hotel. Now here's chucking Bud. 7 00:00:23,400 --> 00:00:25,880 Speaker 3: All right, we're back, Sofia and Dick checking Buck in 8 00:00:25,920 --> 00:00:28,640 Speaker 3: Detroit joining us in a matter of seconds. Update from 9 00:00:28,640 --> 00:00:31,800 Speaker 3: the Major League Baseball Scoreboard. Cubs with the Brewers four two, 10 00:00:31,880 --> 00:00:36,559 Speaker 3: bottom five, Milwaukee looking for the series win against the Cubbies, 11 00:00:36,640 --> 00:00:38,480 Speaker 3: left to come from behind to pull that one off. 12 00:00:38,640 --> 00:00:41,640 Speaker 3: Blue Jay's Yankees at four to eight, Phillies Dodgers at 13 00:00:41,680 --> 00:00:44,360 Speaker 3: six oh eight. Mariners lose nine to three in Detroit. 14 00:00:44,400 --> 00:00:46,519 Speaker 3: There will be a game five. There will be a 15 00:00:46,560 --> 00:00:49,199 Speaker 3: tomorrow night. If you're a Tiger fan, we don't want 16 00:00:49,200 --> 00:00:51,120 Speaker 3: to hear that as Mariner fans, but Tiger fans did. 17 00:00:51,400 --> 00:00:53,880 Speaker 3: If the Blue Jays win, the game is at five oweight. 18 00:00:53,960 --> 00:00:56,000 Speaker 3: If the Yankees win, the game is at one forty 19 00:00:56,040 --> 00:00:58,680 Speaker 3: on Friday. Either way at t Mobile Park. We know 20 00:00:58,760 --> 00:01:00,960 Speaker 3: Trek Scuba will pitch for the Tigers. We don't know 21 00:01:01,040 --> 00:01:04,160 Speaker 3: yet at this moment who will start for the Mariners. 22 00:01:04,160 --> 00:01:07,639 Speaker 3: But let's go back to Camerica Park, Detroit, rock City, 23 00:01:08,120 --> 00:01:11,800 Speaker 3: where the stadium wasn't exactly rocking until the Mariner bullpen 24 00:01:11,920 --> 00:01:14,679 Speaker 3: came in that was booing in the fifth inning and 25 00:01:14,920 --> 00:01:20,160 Speaker 3: just completely melted down. Chuck Powell, Bucky Jacobson rejoin us 26 00:01:20,200 --> 00:01:24,759 Speaker 3: courtesy of these Laquami casino from Detroit, and gentlemen, Chuck 27 00:01:24,800 --> 00:01:27,200 Speaker 3: will start with you because we haven't gotten your thoughts yet. 28 00:01:27,240 --> 00:01:29,480 Speaker 3: First of all, great stuff from the clubhouse, my man, 29 00:01:29,800 --> 00:01:33,039 Speaker 3: and then number two, your thoughts, dude, on what we 30 00:01:33,240 --> 00:01:35,440 Speaker 3: just saw over three hours in Detroit. 31 00:01:37,160 --> 00:01:39,959 Speaker 4: I saw a baseball team that was given a standing 32 00:01:39,959 --> 00:01:43,320 Speaker 4: eight count, got up at seven and a half seconds, 33 00:01:43,640 --> 00:01:47,440 Speaker 4: what you know, you know, kind of staggered from the corner. 34 00:01:47,880 --> 00:01:51,680 Speaker 4: The referee checked the Tiger's eyes, said I think they're 35 00:01:51,680 --> 00:01:54,559 Speaker 4: good to go go ahead and touch gloves and let's 36 00:01:54,560 --> 00:01:57,760 Speaker 4: start fighting again. And then all of a sudden, like 37 00:01:57,840 --> 00:02:01,800 Speaker 4: a six feet pound of smelling salts, Gabe Spire came 38 00:02:01,840 --> 00:02:04,840 Speaker 4: into the game, didn't have his stuff, and they just 39 00:02:05,000 --> 00:02:09,520 Speaker 4: woke up. I mean, this place was dead this city. 40 00:02:09,600 --> 00:02:11,519 Speaker 4: Last night, Bucky and I went out on the town 41 00:02:11,800 --> 00:02:14,639 Speaker 4: and every Tiger fan that we talked to, now they're 42 00:02:14,720 --> 00:02:17,880 Speaker 4: very nice people. As it turns out, every person that 43 00:02:17,919 --> 00:02:20,160 Speaker 4: we talked to is like, it's over you guys won. 44 00:02:21,000 --> 00:02:21,680 Speaker 5: Yeah, we're not. 45 00:02:21,600 --> 00:02:25,240 Speaker 4: Coming back from this. And so that was very representative. 46 00:02:25,480 --> 00:02:28,639 Speaker 4: In the thousands of empty seats that the game started with, 47 00:02:29,200 --> 00:02:32,120 Speaker 4: it was representative. And the booing that took place of 48 00:02:32,240 --> 00:02:34,840 Speaker 4: the Tigers from the third through the fourth innings down 49 00:02:34,880 --> 00:02:38,000 Speaker 4: three to nothing, and then all of a sudden, like magic, 50 00:02:38,400 --> 00:02:42,720 Speaker 4: the team woke up and Gabe Spire and Eduard Bizardo 51 00:02:42,840 --> 00:02:44,960 Speaker 4: could not miss a bat and the next thing you know, 52 00:02:45,080 --> 00:02:48,040 Speaker 4: we're talking about pinning our hopes on a Game five 53 00:02:48,080 --> 00:02:50,680 Speaker 4: in Seattle against maybe the best left handed pitcher in 54 00:02:50,720 --> 00:02:51,320 Speaker 4: the galaxy. 55 00:02:52,120 --> 00:02:53,200 Speaker 1: Let's talk about Spire. 56 00:02:53,400 --> 00:02:55,840 Speaker 6: It seemed like if you had a hole in the 57 00:02:55,880 --> 00:02:58,160 Speaker 6: middle of the plate the size of a golf hole. 58 00:02:58,800 --> 00:03:01,359 Speaker 6: I mean, Spire put the bay through that hole about 59 00:03:01,480 --> 00:03:05,440 Speaker 6: nine different times. I mean, everything was middle middle was 60 00:03:05,440 --> 00:03:08,480 Speaker 6: Was it fatigue? Is Is that what caused the lack 61 00:03:08,520 --> 00:03:10,760 Speaker 6: of command? Because I can't imagine he was aiming for 62 00:03:10,800 --> 00:03:13,679 Speaker 6: the middle to strike zone every pitch well. 63 00:03:13,720 --> 00:03:16,120 Speaker 4: I can't imagine he's fatigue, not at this time of 64 00:03:16,120 --> 00:03:19,800 Speaker 4: the year. He didn't pitch yesterday. I just think he 65 00:03:19,880 --> 00:03:22,120 Speaker 4: had an off day. And that's the way he acted 66 00:03:22,160 --> 00:03:25,360 Speaker 4: downstairs in the clubhouse. It just heard his scrum with 67 00:03:25,440 --> 00:03:29,520 Speaker 4: the media, and he did not seem downtrodden. He just 68 00:03:29,760 --> 00:03:31,840 Speaker 4: kind of seemed a matter of fact, I didn't have 69 00:03:31,919 --> 00:03:34,880 Speaker 4: it today. He was two three miles per hour below 70 00:03:34,920 --> 00:03:38,840 Speaker 4: his velocity. You're right, he was just throwing everything over 71 00:03:38,920 --> 00:03:41,560 Speaker 4: the heart of the plate. He just didn't have it, 72 00:03:41,600 --> 00:03:43,840 Speaker 4: and he picked a terrible time not to have it. 73 00:03:44,120 --> 00:03:46,480 Speaker 4: And I said at the beginning of the series, I 74 00:03:46,520 --> 00:03:50,000 Speaker 4: took a really odd person to name as the guy 75 00:03:50,040 --> 00:03:53,080 Speaker 4: that might be the key to this entire series, and 76 00:03:53,160 --> 00:03:57,040 Speaker 4: Gabe Spire has been it in many, many spectacular ways. 77 00:03:57,640 --> 00:03:58,960 Speaker 5: The fact that he wasn't. 78 00:03:58,800 --> 00:04:00,960 Speaker 4: Used in time in game number one might have been 79 00:04:00,960 --> 00:04:02,600 Speaker 4: the reason that we lost that game. 80 00:04:03,120 --> 00:04:04,760 Speaker 5: The fact that he was used. 81 00:04:04,480 --> 00:04:06,560 Speaker 4: In time in game number two might be the reason 82 00:04:06,560 --> 00:04:09,080 Speaker 4: why the Mariners won that game. And then the fact 83 00:04:09,120 --> 00:04:12,200 Speaker 4: that he just was off his game today might be 84 00:04:12,280 --> 00:04:15,320 Speaker 4: the reason that the Mariners lost this game. So Gabe 85 00:04:15,320 --> 00:04:20,159 Speaker 4: Spiers hot and cold strange series continues, and right now 86 00:04:20,160 --> 00:04:22,720 Speaker 4: we're all even at two games apiece, with that Game 87 00:04:22,800 --> 00:04:24,000 Speaker 4: five staaring us in the face. 88 00:04:24,120 --> 00:04:27,000 Speaker 3: Well, Bucky's with us as well from Detroit and Bucky 89 00:04:27,080 --> 00:04:29,000 Speaker 3: wanting your way in here. Dick and I were talking 90 00:04:29,040 --> 00:04:31,720 Speaker 3: off the ear about who's got the pressure on them, 91 00:04:31,839 --> 00:04:34,920 Speaker 3: and both of us agree it's on the Mariners. You know, 92 00:04:34,960 --> 00:04:36,840 Speaker 3: a three to nothing lead in the fifth inning of 93 00:04:37,000 --> 00:04:39,040 Speaker 3: Game four is probably a game that you should have 94 00:04:39,080 --> 00:04:41,679 Speaker 3: won and you couldn't get it done because your bullpen 95 00:04:41,760 --> 00:04:45,320 Speaker 3: couldn't finish the job. So talk about the emotions going 96 00:04:45,360 --> 00:04:48,080 Speaker 3: into game five. I mean, is it a good thing 97 00:04:48,120 --> 00:04:50,039 Speaker 3: the Mariners have a day off? Would you rather have 98 00:04:50,120 --> 00:04:52,880 Speaker 3: him right back out there tomorrow? Good thing they're playing 99 00:04:52,920 --> 00:04:55,200 Speaker 3: at home. Bad thing they're playing at home. Give me 100 00:04:55,279 --> 00:04:57,840 Speaker 3: all the intangibles you think to come along with game 101 00:04:57,880 --> 00:05:01,359 Speaker 3: five now from a Seattle perspective, But. 102 00:05:01,440 --> 00:05:03,440 Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean I think I would. I think the 103 00:05:03,520 --> 00:05:05,880 Speaker 5: pressure probably is back on the Marriagers. But it's not 104 00:05:05,920 --> 00:05:08,640 Speaker 5: like there's no pressure on them. They don't get, you know, 105 00:05:08,720 --> 00:05:11,599 Speaker 5: to start with a half a run or anything like that, 106 00:05:11,760 --> 00:05:14,600 Speaker 5: simply because they forced the game five. But you know, 107 00:05:14,680 --> 00:05:17,559 Speaker 5: the two objectives were one team would say Hey, let's 108 00:05:17,760 --> 00:05:20,480 Speaker 5: let's you know, feel the deal here. The other team 109 00:05:20,560 --> 00:05:23,479 Speaker 5: was saying, hey, let's force the game five. They accomplish 110 00:05:23,560 --> 00:05:26,120 Speaker 5: their mission. Now they still have to go out there 111 00:05:26,160 --> 00:05:28,080 Speaker 5: and figure out a way to get it done in Seattle, 112 00:05:28,080 --> 00:05:31,080 Speaker 5: and we've kind of had there. We've had just about 113 00:05:31,080 --> 00:05:33,320 Speaker 5: airbody's number as of late. In Seattle. We're going to 114 00:05:33,360 --> 00:05:35,480 Speaker 5: get to throw a good picture. They're going to get 115 00:05:35,480 --> 00:05:38,560 Speaker 5: to throw a better picture now on any given day, 116 00:05:38,640 --> 00:05:40,880 Speaker 5: I don't care who it is. You can outdue a 117 00:05:40,880 --> 00:05:43,400 Speaker 5: guy that's gonna win the cy Young. If if it 118 00:05:43,480 --> 00:05:45,600 Speaker 5: was as easy as just throwing the better guy out 119 00:05:45,640 --> 00:05:48,279 Speaker 5: there that has shown it that more often than not 120 00:05:48,480 --> 00:05:51,080 Speaker 5: he's going to win, then we would just already concede. 121 00:05:51,240 --> 00:05:53,880 Speaker 5: Right you just say, well, more often than not, you're 122 00:05:53,920 --> 00:05:55,560 Speaker 5: guys gonna win. Well, that's just not the way that 123 00:05:55,600 --> 00:05:58,080 Speaker 5: it goes. So there's pressure. But I think that this 124 00:05:58,200 --> 00:06:01,440 Speaker 5: team kind of like playing it those pressure situations. I 125 00:06:01,440 --> 00:06:04,400 Speaker 5: think that they, for whatever reason, when when they get 126 00:06:04,440 --> 00:06:07,400 Speaker 5: a little bit too comfortable, things don't necessarily go their way. 127 00:06:07,440 --> 00:06:09,839 Speaker 5: I mean, one thing I'll just add on this, the 128 00:06:09,839 --> 00:06:12,440 Speaker 5: game's fire thing. I think that nowadays because I've heard 129 00:06:12,520 --> 00:06:14,480 Speaker 5: multiple people say it. I know Munhos does it. I 130 00:06:14,520 --> 00:06:17,520 Speaker 5: think Spire Aspire does it. I think a lot of guys, 131 00:06:17,600 --> 00:06:20,640 Speaker 5: especially hard throwing relievers, I think a lot of time 132 00:06:20,680 --> 00:06:22,800 Speaker 5: they try to throw it right down the middle and 133 00:06:22,839 --> 00:06:25,400 Speaker 5: then if it misses to a corner, still be it. 134 00:06:26,320 --> 00:06:28,360 Speaker 5: There's been a ton of times that I watch baseball, 135 00:06:28,360 --> 00:06:30,760 Speaker 5: whether it's Mariners or anybody else, and I see a 136 00:06:30,800 --> 00:06:32,360 Speaker 5: lot of pitches right down the middle. Well, they get 137 00:06:32,360 --> 00:06:35,279 Speaker 5: away with it with plus velocity. But there's certain days, 138 00:06:35,440 --> 00:06:38,080 Speaker 5: especially when you get into the playoffs, where you need 139 00:06:38,120 --> 00:06:40,680 Speaker 5: to sometimes be thrown to one half of the plate 140 00:06:40,800 --> 00:06:44,000 Speaker 5: and missing off the plate in or off the plate away, 141 00:06:44,440 --> 00:06:47,479 Speaker 5: and uh Yeahspire just didn't have it today. But you know, 142 00:06:47,520 --> 00:06:49,880 Speaker 5: I think all these guys basically will have plushed this 143 00:06:50,640 --> 00:06:53,479 Speaker 5: on the flight back and it'll be immediately moving on 144 00:06:53,560 --> 00:06:56,159 Speaker 5: to the next thing, studying tape, studying things that you're 145 00:06:56,160 --> 00:06:57,960 Speaker 5: going to do, because you got to bring your a 146 00:06:58,080 --> 00:06:59,800 Speaker 5: game when you're going to have Trek Scrugel on the 147 00:06:59,800 --> 00:07:00,520 Speaker 5: ball up against you. 148 00:07:00,720 --> 00:07:03,599 Speaker 6: Yes, often I agree that the pressures is on Seattle. 149 00:07:03,640 --> 00:07:05,440 Speaker 6: I think almost though it feels like it's going to 150 00:07:05,480 --> 00:07:07,960 Speaker 6: be heavier on the fan base more than it will 151 00:07:08,000 --> 00:07:10,440 Speaker 6: be on the players, and Bucky maybe you can speak 152 00:07:10,440 --> 00:07:14,000 Speaker 6: to that. Does the pressure present itself on the players 153 00:07:14,000 --> 00:07:16,480 Speaker 6: from the first inning on or does it start to 154 00:07:16,520 --> 00:07:19,440 Speaker 6: present itself as soon as one team gets ahead of 155 00:07:19,440 --> 00:07:21,760 Speaker 6: the other in a deciding game, and then the pressures 156 00:07:21,760 --> 00:07:23,960 Speaker 6: on the shoulders of the team that's down one nothing 157 00:07:24,040 --> 00:07:24,640 Speaker 6: or two nothing. 158 00:07:26,080 --> 00:07:29,000 Speaker 5: Yeah, I think that. I think that we as fans 159 00:07:29,240 --> 00:07:31,800 Speaker 5: most certainly feel it differently than they do, you know. 160 00:07:31,840 --> 00:07:34,600 Speaker 5: I mean, the pressure of being on the team and 161 00:07:34,640 --> 00:07:37,000 Speaker 5: having to go out there and actually perform is it's 162 00:07:37,000 --> 00:07:39,120 Speaker 5: a different kind of pressure when you don't get to 163 00:07:39,200 --> 00:07:41,880 Speaker 5: do anything to contribute to the win. Well, you obviously 164 00:07:41,880 --> 00:07:44,360 Speaker 5: don't have the pressure of failing in front of forty 165 00:07:44,680 --> 00:07:48,280 Speaker 5: fifty thousand people either, But I think the pressure when 166 00:07:48,320 --> 00:07:50,080 Speaker 5: you get out there is that this is what you 167 00:07:50,160 --> 00:07:53,600 Speaker 5: should be hoping for. Most of these guys they want 168 00:07:53,680 --> 00:07:55,760 Speaker 5: to be in a pressure situation. That's part of what 169 00:07:55,800 --> 00:07:57,840 Speaker 5: their mental makeup is. That's why they've made it to 170 00:07:57,880 --> 00:08:00,480 Speaker 5: the level they've made it at. I mean, I already 171 00:08:00,480 --> 00:08:03,720 Speaker 5: watched a video of the pressor with Eric Spougle, and 172 00:08:03,720 --> 00:08:05,760 Speaker 5: that's what he said. He goes, this is competition, this 173 00:08:05,840 --> 00:08:07,640 Speaker 5: is what you play for. Us for Game five or 174 00:08:07,680 --> 00:08:10,320 Speaker 5: Game sevens when all the marbles we all did it 175 00:08:10,400 --> 00:08:13,080 Speaker 5: playing whippleball in the backyard, right you all did? Oh, 176 00:08:13,440 --> 00:08:15,920 Speaker 5: bases are loaded, We're down by three, bottom of the 177 00:08:15,960 --> 00:08:18,880 Speaker 5: nineteen inning, Game seven of the World Series. You pretend 178 00:08:18,960 --> 00:08:22,200 Speaker 5: to be in that situation. The difference is we, as fans, 179 00:08:22,680 --> 00:08:25,840 Speaker 5: myself included, never got to actually experience that. These guys 180 00:08:25,880 --> 00:08:28,720 Speaker 5: are going to get to experience it. So if you will, 181 00:08:29,000 --> 00:08:30,760 Speaker 5: you probably didn't make it to the big leagues. If 182 00:08:30,760 --> 00:08:33,000 Speaker 5: you're a guy that doesn't want to be in that situation, 183 00:08:33,080 --> 00:08:35,280 Speaker 5: you're probably not one of these. So it basically comes 184 00:08:35,280 --> 00:08:37,480 Speaker 5: down to all of the guys on both teams are 185 00:08:37,520 --> 00:08:39,320 Speaker 5: going to be want to be in that position. The 186 00:08:39,400 --> 00:08:41,839 Speaker 5: difference is who's going to actually take advantage of it? 187 00:08:41,960 --> 00:08:43,880 Speaker 5: And you're gonna let that opportunity. 188 00:08:44,480 --> 00:08:48,600 Speaker 3: Chuck pol Bucky Jacobson with us from Detroit Baseball's Best 189 00:08:48,600 --> 00:08:51,240 Speaker 3: post game ALDS edition, brought to you by our friends 190 00:08:51,240 --> 00:08:54,200 Speaker 3: at East la Qualmee Casino. Again some of your phone 191 00:08:54,200 --> 00:08:56,959 Speaker 3: calls talkbacks as well. In the next maybe twenty five 192 00:08:57,040 --> 00:08:58,840 Speaker 3: thirty minutes or so on the radio show, I'll let 193 00:08:58,840 --> 00:09:01,400 Speaker 3: you invake your spleen a bit here on the program. 194 00:09:01,400 --> 00:09:04,080 Speaker 3: But Chuck, you mentioned on social media on your Twitter 195 00:09:04,080 --> 00:09:07,000 Speaker 3: account that you thought it was the right move to 196 00:09:07,120 --> 00:09:08,080 Speaker 3: pull Bryce. 197 00:09:07,840 --> 00:09:09,760 Speaker 1: Miller in the bottom of the fifth inning. 198 00:09:10,400 --> 00:09:12,520 Speaker 3: They leave him in, he gives up the double the 199 00:09:12,600 --> 00:09:15,080 Speaker 3: Dingler for the first run of the game for the Tigers, 200 00:09:15,120 --> 00:09:18,280 Speaker 3: and then all hell breaks loose after that. Aj Hinch 201 00:09:18,360 --> 00:09:21,120 Speaker 3: comes in and he brings a pinch hitter Jami Jones 202 00:09:21,160 --> 00:09:24,120 Speaker 3: off the bench to face Spire and he ties it 203 00:09:24,200 --> 00:09:26,320 Speaker 3: up at three to three. So tell me in the 204 00:09:26,400 --> 00:09:29,760 Speaker 3: moment and tell me hindsight, because that's a major talking 205 00:09:29,840 --> 00:09:32,760 Speaker 3: point from some fans and media. Did Wilson make the 206 00:09:32,840 --> 00:09:34,800 Speaker 3: right move pulling Bryce Miller when he did? 207 00:09:36,240 --> 00:09:36,800 Speaker 5: Yeah? He did. 208 00:09:36,880 --> 00:09:39,559 Speaker 4: I mean, you were going into this game, I'm pretty 209 00:09:39,640 --> 00:09:43,360 Speaker 4: much going to manage it like a decisive game. You 210 00:09:43,400 --> 00:09:45,719 Speaker 4: had a chance to kind of manage it like two 211 00:09:45,840 --> 00:09:49,320 Speaker 4: game fives with the day off in between, and so 212 00:09:49,800 --> 00:09:53,320 Speaker 4: I figured that Bryce was going to have a short leash. 213 00:09:53,360 --> 00:09:55,560 Speaker 4: I figured it could have even been shorter than what 214 00:09:55,679 --> 00:09:58,040 Speaker 4: it was. I mean, he was good, he was really good. 215 00:09:58,080 --> 00:09:58,800 Speaker 5: He stepped up. 216 00:09:58,840 --> 00:10:01,960 Speaker 4: I'm not surprised. I mean, I call him Clint Eastwood. 217 00:10:01,960 --> 00:10:05,400 Speaker 4: His heart rate just never climbs so I figured he 218 00:10:05,480 --> 00:10:07,880 Speaker 4: was going to be good, But I also figured that 219 00:10:07,960 --> 00:10:10,319 Speaker 4: Dan was going to have a quick hook. And look, 220 00:10:10,720 --> 00:10:14,480 Speaker 4: everybody's everybody is surprised that Gabe Spire didn't have it. 221 00:10:14,520 --> 00:10:16,840 Speaker 4: Gabe Spier was looking like the best reliever in this 222 00:10:17,080 --> 00:10:20,760 Speaker 4: entire series, aj Hinch, I guarantee you was surprised that 223 00:10:20,840 --> 00:10:23,760 Speaker 4: Gabe Spire didn't have it here tonight. My goodness, he 224 00:10:23,880 --> 00:10:26,400 Speaker 4: threw arguably his best reliever in the third inning to 225 00:10:26,400 --> 00:10:29,079 Speaker 4: get out of the Bas's loaded jam. That's how desperate 226 00:10:29,120 --> 00:10:31,160 Speaker 4: he was to stay in the game at that point. 227 00:10:31,200 --> 00:10:33,600 Speaker 4: He knew what was coming. He knew Bryce was gonna 228 00:10:33,960 --> 00:10:35,640 Speaker 4: get pulled, and he was going to have to face 229 00:10:35,679 --> 00:10:38,520 Speaker 4: this Mariner's bullpen for four or five innings. And so 230 00:10:39,400 --> 00:10:41,520 Speaker 4: the fact that Gabe didn't have it, I don't think 231 00:10:41,600 --> 00:10:44,240 Speaker 4: Dan Wilson can be blamed for not having that kind 232 00:10:44,280 --> 00:10:46,880 Speaker 4: of foresight. The fact that Bizardo didn't have it, I 233 00:10:46,960 --> 00:10:49,200 Speaker 4: don't think Dan Wilson can be blamed for not having 234 00:10:49,200 --> 00:10:53,079 Speaker 4: that kind of foresight. Bizardo's been outstanding all season long, 235 00:10:53,400 --> 00:10:57,400 Speaker 4: but today those two guys couldn't get a Tiger hitter 236 00:10:57,480 --> 00:11:01,040 Speaker 4: out and that's why we lost the game. And that's 237 00:11:01,080 --> 00:11:04,520 Speaker 4: why we're heading back with this thing undecided. But I 238 00:11:04,520 --> 00:11:06,040 Speaker 4: don't think you can put this. I mean, look, I've 239 00:11:06,040 --> 00:11:08,440 Speaker 4: been critical of Dan's decisions a lot this year, and 240 00:11:08,480 --> 00:11:10,160 Speaker 4: I thought he was going to struggle with the speed 241 00:11:10,200 --> 00:11:13,120 Speaker 4: of the postseason. But I went into this thinking that 242 00:11:13,160 --> 00:11:15,640 Speaker 4: he was going to have a quick hook on Bryce Miller. 243 00:11:15,840 --> 00:11:18,200 Speaker 4: So when he did pull him out of the game, 244 00:11:18,520 --> 00:11:20,480 Speaker 4: I don't think that it was too early at all. 245 00:11:20,559 --> 00:11:23,240 Speaker 4: I thought it was right on time, if not a 246 00:11:23,280 --> 00:11:24,040 Speaker 4: bat or too late. 247 00:11:24,679 --> 00:11:28,280 Speaker 1: Dan has not named the starter yet for Game number five. 248 00:11:28,679 --> 00:11:28,880 Speaker 5: Chuck. 249 00:11:28,920 --> 00:11:31,360 Speaker 1: We talked to Buck about this earlier. Give us your 250 00:11:31,800 --> 00:11:33,440 Speaker 1: best case scenario for Dan. 251 00:11:33,559 --> 00:11:36,760 Speaker 6: Do you go with the Rock who pitched on Sunday 252 00:11:36,800 --> 00:11:39,400 Speaker 6: eighty five pitches? Do you go with Kirby who threw 253 00:11:39,520 --> 00:11:43,880 Speaker 6: ninety four on Saturday? And furthermore, how available is Logan 254 00:11:43,960 --> 00:11:47,320 Speaker 6: Gilbert after throwing eighty five pitches on Tuesday, maybe coming 255 00:11:47,320 --> 00:11:47,800 Speaker 6: out of the pen. 256 00:11:49,520 --> 00:11:53,240 Speaker 4: I wouldn't think that he is available. I just I mean, 257 00:11:53,280 --> 00:11:56,679 Speaker 4: they have these guys on such strict schedules and routines. 258 00:12:00,040 --> 00:12:04,480 Speaker 4: Usually when that gets disrupted, we see the worst versions 259 00:12:04,559 --> 00:12:07,320 Speaker 4: of them. George is going to be on full rest. 260 00:12:07,800 --> 00:12:10,040 Speaker 4: I would imagine he is going to be the starter. 261 00:12:10,160 --> 00:12:14,040 Speaker 4: But again, you're looking at a bullpen game. Again, I 262 00:12:14,040 --> 00:12:17,280 Speaker 4: would imagine in another quick hook that people can be 263 00:12:17,360 --> 00:12:20,200 Speaker 4: nervous about whether or not Dan makes that decision at 264 00:12:20,200 --> 00:12:23,880 Speaker 4: the right time. I think Castillo certainly is available if 265 00:12:23,960 --> 00:12:29,520 Speaker 4: they feel he's he is will accept the role of 266 00:12:29,559 --> 00:12:31,520 Speaker 4: out of the bullpen. It's just not something that he's 267 00:12:31,559 --> 00:12:34,760 Speaker 4: done a lot. I would imagine that he is certainly available. 268 00:12:35,000 --> 00:12:37,160 Speaker 4: I guarantee you he'll answer the bell. Whether or not 269 00:12:37,200 --> 00:12:39,360 Speaker 4: he's going to be effective, we have no idea, We've 270 00:12:39,360 --> 00:12:42,720 Speaker 4: never seen it, but I think it will ultimately end 271 00:12:42,800 --> 00:12:45,360 Speaker 4: up being George Kirby. There's a reason why they went 272 00:12:45,400 --> 00:12:48,040 Speaker 4: with him in game one. They are very confident with 273 00:12:48,200 --> 00:12:52,400 Speaker 4: his with his stuff, his ability to rise to an occasion. 274 00:12:53,000 --> 00:12:56,000 Speaker 4: I really do wish we had a fully rested Logan Gilbert. 275 00:12:56,000 --> 00:12:58,680 Speaker 4: I wish he would have started game one, but that 276 00:12:58,679 --> 00:13:02,160 Speaker 4: that certainly can be erase. So I would imagine Logan 277 00:13:02,240 --> 00:13:06,600 Speaker 4: Gilbert is not available, but I would imagine everybody else 278 00:13:06,679 --> 00:13:09,360 Speaker 4: not named Logan Gilbert or Bryce Miller would be Yeah. 279 00:13:09,400 --> 00:13:11,840 Speaker 3: I agree with your point about you know, kind of 280 00:13:11,840 --> 00:13:14,960 Speaker 3: a fish out of water. Sometimes we don't see you know, 281 00:13:15,080 --> 00:13:17,880 Speaker 3: a guy's best. I mean, this isn't ninety five anymore, 282 00:13:18,000 --> 00:13:20,679 Speaker 3: where Randy Johnson can throw one hundred and seventeen pitches 283 00:13:20,720 --> 00:13:23,640 Speaker 3: on a Tuesday and then come in two days later 284 00:13:23,720 --> 00:13:26,320 Speaker 3: out of the bullpen and give up a lead, but 285 00:13:26,480 --> 00:13:29,320 Speaker 3: Edgar Martinez saves his ass. Right, So those days are over. 286 00:13:29,440 --> 00:13:32,000 Speaker 3: But Bucky, you know, just just go back and talk 287 00:13:32,040 --> 00:13:34,880 Speaker 3: a little bit more about about Friday, because I feel 288 00:13:34,880 --> 00:13:37,640 Speaker 3: like now that's what should be discussed, right, Like today 289 00:13:37,760 --> 00:13:38,720 Speaker 3: was a huge bummer. 290 00:13:39,120 --> 00:13:40,520 Speaker 1: It was a massive letdown. 291 00:13:40,640 --> 00:13:42,720 Speaker 3: But you got to find a way to rally the 292 00:13:42,840 --> 00:13:45,880 Speaker 3: game plan that these guys have had against scooball the 293 00:13:45,920 --> 00:13:48,120 Speaker 3: first three times. He's zero and two with a four 294 00:13:48,160 --> 00:13:51,800 Speaker 3: point five eight ERA in three starts against the Mariners. 295 00:13:51,800 --> 00:13:53,160 Speaker 1: Do you change anything? 296 00:13:53,520 --> 00:13:56,480 Speaker 3: Do you take anything from the previous three game plans 297 00:13:56,679 --> 00:13:58,480 Speaker 3: that you want to bring with you again Friday? 298 00:14:00,160 --> 00:14:02,480 Speaker 5: I mean, I'd think first and foremost. You know, you 299 00:14:02,520 --> 00:14:05,920 Speaker 5: could hear it in the interview that Chuck got from 300 00:14:06,200 --> 00:14:09,640 Speaker 5: Logan or yeah, from Gilbert, I mean that it didn't 301 00:14:09,640 --> 00:14:13,040 Speaker 5: sound like he's overly worried. I mean, ultimately, yeah, you 302 00:14:13,160 --> 00:14:15,600 Speaker 5: get to today, and like, boy, if you could pull 303 00:14:15,640 --> 00:14:19,840 Speaker 5: out two wins on the road, then you're feeling pretty good. 304 00:14:19,840 --> 00:14:22,880 Speaker 5: But really, I think Detroit when they were flying back 305 00:14:22,920 --> 00:14:25,840 Speaker 5: here after winning one of two on the road, they 306 00:14:25,920 --> 00:14:28,400 Speaker 5: kind of feel like they stole back. They stole home 307 00:14:28,400 --> 00:14:31,320 Speaker 5: field advantage, right, you come to their place and split 308 00:14:31,400 --> 00:14:33,560 Speaker 5: with them, You did the exact same thing. And now 309 00:14:33,560 --> 00:14:36,080 Speaker 5: it just comes down one game. You are going against 310 00:14:36,160 --> 00:14:39,480 Speaker 5: one of the best pitchers on the planet, and yet 311 00:14:39,920 --> 00:14:42,960 Speaker 5: they've answered this call three different times this season. Now, 312 00:14:43,200 --> 00:14:44,600 Speaker 5: is it one of those things I hear all the 313 00:14:44,640 --> 00:14:46,280 Speaker 5: time it's tough to be the team three times in 314 00:14:46,320 --> 00:14:48,480 Speaker 5: one season. Well, it's probably tough to be the starter 315 00:14:48,600 --> 00:14:51,680 Speaker 5: four times one season. But there's also things like streets. 316 00:14:51,680 --> 00:14:54,920 Speaker 5: There's also things like just there's a confidence that comes 317 00:14:54,920 --> 00:14:57,200 Speaker 5: in if all of a sudden, you're facing somebody you 318 00:14:57,320 --> 00:15:00,320 Speaker 5: know you can't make mistakes against, well maybe you're in 319 00:15:00,360 --> 00:15:02,600 Speaker 5: a little bit more so. There's a lot of things 320 00:15:02,640 --> 00:15:05,400 Speaker 5: that are going in the favor of the Mariners, while 321 00:15:05,440 --> 00:15:07,080 Speaker 5: on the flip side of it, there's gonna be another 322 00:15:07,080 --> 00:15:09,280 Speaker 5: plane pull of guys that feel like everything is going 323 00:15:09,320 --> 00:15:11,440 Speaker 5: in their direction. They just won, they just forced the 324 00:15:11,480 --> 00:15:14,160 Speaker 5: game five, and they got the ace going. Well, I mean, 325 00:15:14,160 --> 00:15:16,360 Speaker 5: we got we're gonna have whether they end up going 326 00:15:16,720 --> 00:15:19,320 Speaker 5: with George Kirby or they go with Luis Castillo, we're 327 00:15:19,320 --> 00:15:20,840 Speaker 5: gonna feel like we have an ace, and we're gonna 328 00:15:20,840 --> 00:15:22,400 Speaker 5: feel like we gotta have an ace up a sleeve 329 00:15:22,480 --> 00:15:24,520 Speaker 5: that we can pull a hook and bring another guy 330 00:15:24,560 --> 00:15:27,680 Speaker 5: in as quick as you kind of feel like you 331 00:15:27,760 --> 00:15:29,720 Speaker 5: need that. I don't feel like they have that same 332 00:15:30,400 --> 00:15:32,400 Speaker 5: luxury where they're sitting there thinking with boy, if these 333 00:15:32,400 --> 00:15:35,320 Speaker 5: guys get to our ace, that's fine. We got another 334 00:15:35,320 --> 00:15:37,480 Speaker 5: one just waiting in the wings. So that is there's 335 00:15:37,520 --> 00:15:39,200 Speaker 5: there's different ways of looking at it, whether you can 336 00:15:39,200 --> 00:15:41,360 Speaker 5: think of it an advantage or not really boiled down 337 00:15:41,400 --> 00:15:44,920 Speaker 5: to go up, be ready. I think these boys by 338 00:15:44,960 --> 00:15:46,800 Speaker 5: the time they land in Seattle are gonna be pumped 339 00:15:46,800 --> 00:15:49,080 Speaker 5: about playing this game in Seattle on Friday. 340 00:15:49,240 --> 00:15:50,520 Speaker 1: Well, but what's frustrating? 341 00:15:50,560 --> 00:15:53,800 Speaker 6: And then actually I'm a little bit optimistic about the 342 00:15:53,880 --> 00:15:54,480 Speaker 6: same thought. 343 00:15:54,480 --> 00:15:55,120 Speaker 1: And here's the thought. 344 00:15:55,120 --> 00:15:57,480 Speaker 6: It's the thought that that Chuck has been professing for 345 00:15:57,640 --> 00:16:00,360 Speaker 6: for days and I've totally agreed with We're just a 346 00:16:00,440 --> 00:16:04,000 Speaker 6: better baseball team than Detroit is. And so what's frustrating 347 00:16:04,080 --> 00:16:06,560 Speaker 6: is we even had to get the game five against 348 00:16:06,560 --> 00:16:10,040 Speaker 6: these Slubs. But then what's optimistic about it is yeh, 349 00:16:10,120 --> 00:16:12,920 Speaker 6: Scoople's going game five, what I believe were the better 350 00:16:12,960 --> 00:16:16,760 Speaker 6: baseball team than Detroit overall, so we should win the game. 351 00:16:19,200 --> 00:16:21,920 Speaker 5: Yeah, I meanly would add on to that. 352 00:16:22,080 --> 00:16:25,200 Speaker 4: I mean, how well this team plays at home, how 353 00:16:25,280 --> 00:16:28,560 Speaker 4: much they're already talking about looking forward to playing in 354 00:16:28,600 --> 00:16:31,360 Speaker 4: front of that crowd. I asked Logan about it, and 355 00:16:31,400 --> 00:16:34,400 Speaker 4: he's what his expectation was, and he just said loud. 356 00:16:35,000 --> 00:16:38,800 Speaker 4: So I think that this is a team that I mean, 357 00:16:38,840 --> 00:16:42,360 Speaker 4: homefield advantage isn't a great advantage in the sport of baseball. 358 00:16:42,560 --> 00:16:45,720 Speaker 4: It typically, you know, doesn't have the impact it can't 359 00:16:45,760 --> 00:16:48,480 Speaker 4: have in other sports, but I do believe that it 360 00:16:48,560 --> 00:16:52,080 Speaker 4: is impactful for this baseball team. Now, Detroit takes the momentum, 361 00:16:52,360 --> 00:16:54,960 Speaker 4: and they certainly on paper, got the better starting pitcher, 362 00:16:55,560 --> 00:16:58,440 Speaker 4: but we've already beaten him three times this year. So 363 00:16:58,760 --> 00:17:01,720 Speaker 4: we go to see, Yah, we get loud, we sell 364 00:17:01,800 --> 00:17:04,840 Speaker 4: the place out, and see if that isn't worth a 365 00:17:04,880 --> 00:17:07,560 Speaker 4: half a run? Uh see if that isn't worth the 366 00:17:07,640 --> 00:17:10,920 Speaker 4: difference in a tight ball game that we're all expecting 367 00:17:10,960 --> 00:17:13,160 Speaker 4: to see go down Friday at home? 368 00:17:14,720 --> 00:17:17,679 Speaker 3: Uh Chuck pow Bucky Jacobson. Who's the hero gonna be? 369 00:17:18,200 --> 00:17:21,160 Speaker 3: Tell us tell us on on on Saturday morning when 370 00:17:21,200 --> 00:17:24,040 Speaker 3: we wake up and the Mariners have one. I think 371 00:17:24,080 --> 00:17:27,040 Speaker 3: you tweeted this out, Chuck, that you expected the Tigers 372 00:17:27,119 --> 00:17:29,680 Speaker 3: bottom of the order right to maybe do some damage 373 00:17:29,680 --> 00:17:33,560 Speaker 3: potentially Uh in a in a in a game like this. Uh, 374 00:17:33,720 --> 00:17:35,919 Speaker 3: you had some foresight there. Who's the hero gonna be 375 00:17:36,000 --> 00:17:38,320 Speaker 3: if the m's pull this off? Who's the Who's the 376 00:17:38,359 --> 00:17:39,199 Speaker 3: superman for us? 377 00:17:41,280 --> 00:17:41,440 Speaker 7: Uh? 378 00:17:41,720 --> 00:17:45,280 Speaker 4: I think it might end up being the bullpen? And 379 00:17:46,000 --> 00:17:48,560 Speaker 4: you know, uh, look, it's been the year of Col, 380 00:17:49,000 --> 00:17:53,200 Speaker 4: so you know I am vision maybe uh to two 381 00:17:53,400 --> 00:17:56,399 Speaker 4: tie late and maybe Col walks it off in the 382 00:17:56,440 --> 00:17:57,800 Speaker 4: bottom of the night. How about that. 383 00:17:57,840 --> 00:17:59,199 Speaker 1: Yeah for a story. 384 00:17:59,440 --> 00:18:01,560 Speaker 4: But in order to keep it to too, I mean, 385 00:18:01,760 --> 00:18:05,240 Speaker 4: I think SCO's gonna Scoobol's gonna go seven innings, I 386 00:18:05,240 --> 00:18:10,200 Speaker 4: would imagine, and maybe even more than that. So you're 387 00:18:10,280 --> 00:18:14,840 Speaker 4: gonna have to work this combination of pitchers perfectly if 388 00:18:14,880 --> 00:18:17,760 Speaker 4: you're Dan Wilson, and then every everybody's gotta show up. 389 00:18:17,840 --> 00:18:19,600 Speaker 4: I mean I thought he'd worked it well today, but 390 00:18:19,760 --> 00:18:23,280 Speaker 4: not everybody showed up out of the bullpen, So I 391 00:18:23,280 --> 00:18:26,399 Speaker 4: wouldn't be surprised if Andre's Munnos doesn't like suck it 392 00:18:26,480 --> 00:18:30,840 Speaker 4: up for six outs, Devin outs. Matt Brash, who hasn't 393 00:18:30,920 --> 00:18:33,120 Speaker 4: really pitched more than an inning all year long, might 394 00:18:33,160 --> 00:18:35,919 Speaker 4: have to go an inning plus uh in this game. 395 00:18:36,640 --> 00:18:39,640 Speaker 4: So we might see some heroes out of the bullpen 396 00:18:40,200 --> 00:18:43,400 Speaker 4: that end up deciding it and having to go several 397 00:18:43,440 --> 00:18:45,840 Speaker 4: innings versus a tigers pin that may only have to 398 00:18:45,880 --> 00:18:49,800 Speaker 4: go one or two on Friday. So maybe the heroes 399 00:18:49,840 --> 00:18:51,879 Speaker 4: come out of the bullpen just as they were the 400 00:18:51,880 --> 00:18:52,960 Speaker 4: goats here today. 401 00:18:53,040 --> 00:18:55,200 Speaker 3: Well that's the thing, Bucky, is that with this game five, 402 00:18:55,320 --> 00:18:58,200 Speaker 3: I mean this is, you know, the first real elimination game. 403 00:18:58,280 --> 00:19:00,680 Speaker 3: Obviously the M's have played all year and Detroit, We're 404 00:19:00,680 --> 00:19:03,000 Speaker 3: gonna see some weird stuff on Friday that you never 405 00:19:03,040 --> 00:19:06,560 Speaker 3: would see in a regular season game. So what about you, 406 00:19:06,680 --> 00:19:09,840 Speaker 3: who's your pick to click for the game on Friday. 407 00:19:10,359 --> 00:19:12,040 Speaker 5: I think this is the same where you've got to 408 00:19:12,080 --> 00:19:15,000 Speaker 5: figure out, you've got to figure out who's gonna want 409 00:19:15,000 --> 00:19:17,040 Speaker 5: it more, right, and it's it's you could be one 410 00:19:17,080 --> 00:19:19,760 Speaker 5: through nine, But I think they're throwing their best. The 411 00:19:19,800 --> 00:19:21,680 Speaker 5: bust player on their team is going to be towing 412 00:19:21,720 --> 00:19:25,399 Speaker 5: the rubber and wearing back and throwing a hundred pitches 413 00:19:25,440 --> 00:19:27,960 Speaker 5: trying to see if you can touch them. It's time 414 00:19:28,000 --> 00:19:30,720 Speaker 5: for the most talented person on the field, period, and 415 00:19:30,800 --> 00:19:34,360 Speaker 5: Julu Rodrigez to step up. I watched Julio Rodriguez get 416 00:19:34,440 --> 00:19:37,520 Speaker 5: multiple fastballs blown by him by Scoobo, and understandably so 417 00:19:37,960 --> 00:19:40,840 Speaker 5: he just joins the crowd of everybody else in MLB. 418 00:19:41,560 --> 00:19:44,640 Speaker 5: But this is a situation where it's game five, You're 419 00:19:44,640 --> 00:19:48,359 Speaker 5: gonna have a packed house, it's winner go home. Hulu 420 00:19:48,440 --> 00:19:51,359 Speaker 5: Rodriguez is the most emotional player on the team, and 421 00:19:51,560 --> 00:19:53,399 Speaker 5: when I mean that, he's the type of guy that 422 00:19:53,560 --> 00:19:55,880 Speaker 5: feeds off of that the most. That's why he's given 423 00:19:55,920 --> 00:19:58,200 Speaker 5: the no flyes Owe, That's why he plays the way 424 00:19:58,200 --> 00:20:00,800 Speaker 5: that he plays. This is a situation and that he 425 00:20:00,920 --> 00:20:02,840 Speaker 5: needs to stump up and say you're not beating me 426 00:20:02,880 --> 00:20:04,360 Speaker 5: with one of those and if he can, he can 427 00:20:04,400 --> 00:20:06,320 Speaker 5: be the guy like war Ape Long, we're running into 428 00:20:06,320 --> 00:20:08,680 Speaker 5: a couple of mistakes. Yeah, now you can get into 429 00:20:08,680 --> 00:20:11,720 Speaker 5: the situation where you can you can rear back and 430 00:20:11,840 --> 00:20:14,440 Speaker 5: lean on your Matt Brashes and your monos to hopefully 431 00:20:14,440 --> 00:20:15,200 Speaker 5: lock something down. 432 00:20:15,760 --> 00:20:17,280 Speaker 3: All right, we got more audio to get to you 433 00:20:17,320 --> 00:20:20,639 Speaker 3: in the clubhouse. We're gonna get to some talkbacks as well. Uh, 434 00:20:20,720 --> 00:20:23,200 Speaker 3: you guys, go grab a pizza or something, and maybe 435 00:20:23,240 --> 00:20:26,119 Speaker 3: a couple of pictures of beer because you you deserve it. 436 00:20:26,280 --> 00:20:26,399 Speaker 5: Uh. 437 00:20:26,640 --> 00:20:29,119 Speaker 3: I assume that you're on a flight back tonight tomorrow. 438 00:20:29,160 --> 00:20:30,320 Speaker 3: What's the plan for you guys? 439 00:20:31,640 --> 00:20:34,640 Speaker 4: Now, we do one more show tomorrow morning show here 440 00:20:34,680 --> 00:20:37,919 Speaker 4: from Detroit tomorrow, and then afterwards we'll get on the plane, 441 00:20:37,960 --> 00:20:40,359 Speaker 4: get back Thursday night, roll it right back over to 442 00:20:40,400 --> 00:20:43,200 Speaker 4: a Friday morning show, and then head to the Ballyard 443 00:20:43,320 --> 00:20:47,479 Speaker 4: for Game number five. So yeah, it's uh, it's been 444 00:20:47,560 --> 00:20:50,680 Speaker 4: quite an adventure so far. Uh, mostly fun. We've had 445 00:20:50,680 --> 00:20:55,720 Speaker 4: a great time, but we're obviously that's very disappointing to 446 00:20:55,800 --> 00:20:57,840 Speaker 4: be not coming home with her feet up on the 447 00:20:57,880 --> 00:21:01,159 Speaker 4: desk and just thinking about having a weekend off before 448 00:21:01,200 --> 00:21:05,480 Speaker 4: we get started, just waiting for our opponent. But nevertheless, 449 00:21:05,520 --> 00:21:08,080 Speaker 4: game five those are the most memorable ones, right, So 450 00:21:08,440 --> 00:21:11,159 Speaker 4: let's just envision Cal walking off Will Vest with a 451 00:21:11,200 --> 00:21:13,240 Speaker 4: two run homer in the bottom of the ninth Friday. 452 00:21:13,520 --> 00:21:15,480 Speaker 3: It's the first time the Mariners have played a Game 453 00:21:15,520 --> 00:21:17,480 Speaker 3: five since two thousand and one, when they played the 454 00:21:17,520 --> 00:21:19,760 Speaker 3: Indians and they won at home with Jamie Moyer on 455 00:21:19,800 --> 00:21:21,359 Speaker 3: the mound twenty four years ago. 456 00:21:21,480 --> 00:21:24,399 Speaker 1: So let's hope it goes the same way. Guys. All right, guys, 457 00:21:24,440 --> 00:21:26,120 Speaker 1: great stuff, and we'll see when you get back home. 458 00:21:26,160 --> 00:21:28,680 Speaker 5: Thanks, guys, All right, man later, guys. 459 00:21:28,440 --> 00:21:30,639 Speaker 3: All right, Chucking Buck, we're gonna break. We got more 460 00:21:30,680 --> 00:21:33,600 Speaker 3: audio from the clubhouse to get to Kevin. Harlan's gonna 461 00:21:33,640 --> 00:21:37,120 Speaker 3: join us at five. Talkback Mike is open. Oh boy, 462 00:21:37,240 --> 00:21:40,400 Speaker 3: people are sounding off big time. We'll get to those 463 00:21:40,440 --> 00:21:47,840 Speaker 3: next on ninety three three KJRFM. 464 00:21:47,880 --> 00:21:50,840 Speaker 2: Now back to the Alds postgame show. 465 00:21:50,880 --> 00:21:54,119 Speaker 1: There is nothing like postseason baseball. 466 00:21:53,600 --> 00:21:56,680 Speaker 2: Brought to you by Seattle's closest sports book. No call 467 00:21:56,760 --> 00:22:01,199 Speaker 2: me casino and hotel your plays for a true in experience. 468 00:22:01,600 --> 00:22:02,480 Speaker 1: Get in on the action. 469 00:22:02,600 --> 00:22:06,560 Speaker 2: It's set closest, No call me casino and hotel. Now 470 00:22:06,800 --> 00:22:10,320 Speaker 2: here's Chucking Bud. All right, Chuck and Buck have left 471 00:22:10,320 --> 00:22:12,600 Speaker 2: the building. People, They have left the building. They have 472 00:22:12,680 --> 00:22:15,080 Speaker 2: exited k America Park and they are on their way. 473 00:22:15,160 --> 00:22:18,840 Speaker 2: I'll be totally honest with you to get absolutely blitched 474 00:22:18,960 --> 00:22:22,159 Speaker 2: somewhere in downtown Detroit, and there are a lot of 475 00:22:22,160 --> 00:22:24,200 Speaker 2: places to go to do that. You've been there, right, 476 00:22:24,240 --> 00:22:26,439 Speaker 2: to k America Ford Field. You were there with me 477 00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:27,800 Speaker 2: for the Super Bowl, Super Bowl. 478 00:22:27,800 --> 00:22:31,280 Speaker 3: That's the time I was one time. No, that's not true, 479 00:22:31,320 --> 00:22:32,880 Speaker 3: because you were there with me for the Final four, 480 00:22:32,920 --> 00:22:36,000 Speaker 3: Final four. That's right, Michigan State when we saw Plexico 481 00:22:36,040 --> 00:22:38,600 Speaker 3: Buris and asked him which Leggy shot himself in at 482 00:22:38,600 --> 00:22:39,240 Speaker 3: the team hotel. 483 00:22:39,320 --> 00:22:41,840 Speaker 1: That's right, You're exactly right. 484 00:22:41,840 --> 00:22:44,240 Speaker 3: But that's a great area, ca America Park, Ford Field, 485 00:22:44,320 --> 00:22:47,040 Speaker 3: right there next to each other, awesome bars, all that stuff. 486 00:22:47,080 --> 00:22:50,280 Speaker 3: So shout out Everett fits you real quick, because Everett 487 00:22:50,280 --> 00:22:52,240 Speaker 3: and I had a little steak dinner wager on the 488 00:22:52,240 --> 00:22:55,560 Speaker 3: Mariner Tiger series. And he is the one knucklehead friend 489 00:22:55,640 --> 00:22:58,760 Speaker 3: of mine that is not talking smack on my phone. 490 00:22:58,920 --> 00:23:02,240 Speaker 3: I actually had a guy who you know series exactly, 491 00:23:02,280 --> 00:23:04,479 Speaker 3: but I had a guy, and this guy's a Mariner fan, right, 492 00:23:04,520 --> 00:23:06,560 Speaker 3: who was the most like you don't like negative people, 493 00:23:06,640 --> 00:23:09,359 Speaker 3: you know when the doomsday people. This guy is the 494 00:23:09,359 --> 00:23:12,440 Speaker 3: most negative son of a bitch walk in the face 495 00:23:12,480 --> 00:23:12,960 Speaker 3: of the earth. 496 00:23:13,359 --> 00:23:14,480 Speaker 1: It's unbelievable. 497 00:23:14,520 --> 00:23:16,399 Speaker 3: The ms could be up nine to nothing in the 498 00:23:16,440 --> 00:23:19,240 Speaker 3: eighth inning and the Tigers get a garbage run. 499 00:23:19,240 --> 00:23:22,000 Speaker 1: Well, here we go. I have friends like that. 500 00:23:22,040 --> 00:23:25,000 Speaker 3: And I told this dude, I said, dude, I love you, 501 00:23:25,240 --> 00:23:27,800 Speaker 3: but I got a mute you until the playoffs are over. 502 00:23:27,920 --> 00:23:30,160 Speaker 1: I'll talk to you when the season ends, see you later. 503 00:23:30,800 --> 00:23:32,360 Speaker 1: I just couldn't take it, man. 504 00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:34,919 Speaker 6: I just I can't do it. I've got friends like that, 505 00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:38,360 Speaker 6: I've got family members like that. During Seahawks games, they 506 00:23:38,440 --> 00:23:41,359 Speaker 6: will only text me, and they'll text me non stop 507 00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:44,560 Speaker 6: as long as something bad is happening, right as soon 508 00:23:44,600 --> 00:23:48,080 Speaker 6: as something as good as happening, you crickets, you won't 509 00:23:48,080 --> 00:23:50,960 Speaker 6: hear anything. But it's almost The Seahawks game was a 510 00:23:50,960 --> 00:23:53,880 Speaker 6: perfect example. I got nothing but negative texts all first 511 00:23:53,920 --> 00:23:56,760 Speaker 6: half long. Didn't hear from him any time till after 512 00:23:56,800 --> 00:23:58,919 Speaker 6: the game. Wow, we blew it, Like geez, where were you? 513 00:23:58,960 --> 00:23:59,760 Speaker 1: We scoring five? 514 00:24:00,520 --> 00:24:03,159 Speaker 3: It's almost okay if it's on a text thread and 515 00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:05,680 Speaker 3: there's like twenty dudes that are all just going back 516 00:24:05,680 --> 00:24:06,159 Speaker 3: and forth. 517 00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:09,000 Speaker 1: But if it's that one guy, just that one guy. 518 00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:11,000 Speaker 3: Like you ever see a movie A League of their 519 00:24:11,040 --> 00:24:13,679 Speaker 3: Own when there's the little fat kid running up and 520 00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:16,400 Speaker 3: down the aisle all the bus just pissing everybody off. 521 00:24:16,160 --> 00:24:17,480 Speaker 1: And you want to punch him in the face, but 522 00:24:17,560 --> 00:24:18,760 Speaker 1: you can't. Just a candidate. 523 00:24:19,119 --> 00:24:21,600 Speaker 3: That's that's that guy that I had to mute today 524 00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:23,840 Speaker 3: on my on my phone, so at least you warned him. 525 00:24:24,040 --> 00:24:26,159 Speaker 3: I did like this said, I'm sorry, man, I love you, 526 00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:27,840 Speaker 3: but I'll talk to you in the years over see 527 00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:31,000 Speaker 3: you later, and that that might be Saturday. By the way, 528 00:24:31,040 --> 00:24:32,719 Speaker 3: if this thing doesn't go the way we want, we 529 00:24:32,760 --> 00:24:34,440 Speaker 3: want it to go on Friday. 530 00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:35,840 Speaker 1: But thanks to Boar's Head. 531 00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:38,119 Speaker 3: By the way, they brought some sandwiches down here to 532 00:24:38,160 --> 00:24:41,359 Speaker 3: the studio earlier today, and they were gracious enough to 533 00:24:41,440 --> 00:24:44,239 Speaker 3: leave some of refrigerator for us. Maybe the best thing 534 00:24:44,280 --> 00:24:47,560 Speaker 3: about today is the bors Head sandwich. I am stress 535 00:24:47,600 --> 00:24:50,199 Speaker 3: eating beyond belief and I have been doing it for 536 00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:52,960 Speaker 3: the last two hours. Well anything I can get my 537 00:24:53,040 --> 00:24:56,520 Speaker 3: hands on. I am going through people's desk drawers at 538 00:24:56,600 --> 00:24:59,639 Speaker 3: work to see if I can find something to snack on. 539 00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:02,240 Speaker 3: And you you know what, it's gonna be even worse tonight. 540 00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:06,560 Speaker 3: Fat Softy is coming back for a couple of days. 541 00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:09,800 Speaker 3: I may show up at the U pregame show Friday 542 00:25:09,840 --> 00:25:11,280 Speaker 3: Dick at two o'clock. 543 00:25:11,040 --> 00:25:12,840 Speaker 1: Weighing two hundred and ninety pounds. 544 00:25:13,040 --> 00:25:16,560 Speaker 6: Seriously, so Wednesday night i'd planned, you know, Wednesday night. 545 00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:19,280 Speaker 6: I'm not going to have a cocktail night. I'm having 546 00:25:19,280 --> 00:25:21,520 Speaker 6: a cocktail. I'm having a cocktail the night baby too. 547 00:25:21,560 --> 00:25:23,399 Speaker 6: I mean it's and you know we have we have 548 00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:26,080 Speaker 6: a poll that you put out that that is interesting speaking. 549 00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:29,720 Speaker 1: Yes, is there an update? Yes, we need an updated poll, 550 00:25:29,800 --> 00:25:32,439 Speaker 1: and this is really one I could answer. 551 00:25:32,560 --> 00:25:35,240 Speaker 6: I would like to answer both to but there's no 552 00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:36,040 Speaker 6: weasel option. 553 00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:37,000 Speaker 1: What was my question? 554 00:25:37,040 --> 00:25:37,400 Speaker 5: I forgot? 555 00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:39,840 Speaker 1: So how do we feel about game five? 556 00:25:40,359 --> 00:25:44,840 Speaker 6: And your two options are confident or scared bleepless. 557 00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:49,720 Speaker 1: I am incredibly both for game number five, But you can't. 558 00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:53,320 Speaker 6: I can't maybe scared in confident because you know I'm 559 00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:55,800 Speaker 6: the snow globe. I voted confident, but I am only 560 00:25:55,840 --> 00:26:00,480 Speaker 6: a twenty eight percent minority. Seventy two percent is scared bleep. 561 00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:03,440 Speaker 3: I think I think this guy's falling tremendously. I think 562 00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:06,199 Speaker 3: that's gonna be the attitude from I'm not saying I 563 00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:06,760 Speaker 3: feel like that. 564 00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:08,240 Speaker 1: Well, I kind of do, but I think. 565 00:26:11,119 --> 00:26:14,159 Speaker 3: Sports well, I mean, but but look at Detroit fans. 566 00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:16,080 Speaker 3: Look at the way that actually gave up. You don't 567 00:26:16,119 --> 00:26:18,720 Speaker 3: think they thought this guy was falling this morning? Did 568 00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:22,000 Speaker 3: you see the stands? There was nobody there. I looked 569 00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:24,479 Speaker 3: on venue kings before the game. Tickets were like twelve 570 00:26:24,520 --> 00:26:25,520 Speaker 3: bucks to get in the door. 571 00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:28,440 Speaker 6: Can we never hear from another East Coast slash Midwest 572 00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:31,159 Speaker 6: fan that they're hardcore and we're soft here on the 573 00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:33,560 Speaker 6: West Coast. You didn't show up for your team in 574 00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:35,280 Speaker 6: the playoffs, Well, I'll tell you what. 575 00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:37,840 Speaker 3: We got some talkbacks to get who get you here 576 00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:40,439 Speaker 3: on the iHeartRadio app. It really is the best way 577 00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:42,119 Speaker 3: to get ahold of us. You can just leave us 578 00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:45,439 Speaker 3: a message, man, leave a message. I can't remember the 579 00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:48,520 Speaker 3: last time I left a voicemail for somebody. I haven't 580 00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:52,040 Speaker 3: done that in decades. I'll just text somebody. First of all, 581 00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:54,159 Speaker 3: I don't got the patience to leave a voicemail. And 582 00:26:54,200 --> 00:26:55,960 Speaker 3: then second of all, if I want to get you 583 00:26:56,040 --> 00:26:59,080 Speaker 3: a note, I think the quickest way to get that 584 00:26:59,240 --> 00:27:01,920 Speaker 3: to somebody is just to send you a text, No question, right. 585 00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:04,159 Speaker 3: I mean have voicemails months old, and I have not 586 00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:07,679 Speaker 3: heard who the hell leaves voicemails anymore. But it's the 587 00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:09,399 Speaker 3: best way to get ahold of us, best way to 588 00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:11,960 Speaker 3: get your butt on the radio station. So let's get 589 00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:14,400 Speaker 3: to the talk back. Mike anders I hope you had 590 00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:17,640 Speaker 3: the button out and get some reaction to the Mariner's 591 00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:19,760 Speaker 3: nine to three loss to the Tigers today. 592 00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:24,320 Speaker 7: I gotta tell you, the people that are absolutely losing 593 00:27:24,359 --> 00:27:27,480 Speaker 7: their minds right now are the same ones who said 594 00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:32,080 Speaker 7: that the series was over after Game one. Does it suck, yes, 595 00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:36,720 Speaker 7: but holy smoke, Seattle, collect yourselves, pull up your big 596 00:27:36,760 --> 00:27:40,280 Speaker 7: boy pants, and go be scooble at home. Come on, 597 00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:41,679 Speaker 7: take a fricking breath. 598 00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:47,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, take a breath. I love that. That is my 599 00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:50,399 Speaker 1: attitude of the time. 600 00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:54,120 Speaker 6: Like it's just I'm sitting there watching the Husky game down, 601 00:27:54,119 --> 00:27:56,520 Speaker 6: tweet it up and going, you know, if we can 602 00:27:56,600 --> 00:27:58,800 Speaker 6: just get a stop here and a touchdown, Like that's 603 00:27:58,840 --> 00:27:59,960 Speaker 6: how I watch game. 604 00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:02,159 Speaker 3: Well, that's why they call you the snow globe. I mean, 605 00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:04,040 Speaker 3: I mean, let me ask you a question. What would 606 00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:07,040 Speaker 3: the Husky score have had to be on Saturday before 607 00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:08,040 Speaker 3: you just said we're done? 608 00:28:08,119 --> 00:28:08,800 Speaker 1: Four touchdowns? 609 00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:15,800 Speaker 3: Okay, exactly, So don't act like you're some eternal optimist. 610 00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:18,400 Speaker 3: I mean, there is a point where they can get 611 00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:20,119 Speaker 3: to where even you say the hell with it. 612 00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:22,679 Speaker 1: You start packing up lots. 613 00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:24,520 Speaker 6: Of fans that when they go down by a touchdown, 614 00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:25,480 Speaker 6: the game is over. 615 00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:25,760 Speaker 4: Well. 616 00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:27,560 Speaker 3: But here's the thing though, and you and you mentioned 617 00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:29,480 Speaker 3: this earlier with Chuck and Buck and I wanted to 618 00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:31,440 Speaker 3: jump in, but we couldn't because we ran out of time. 619 00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:33,560 Speaker 1: You said that the Mariners are the better team. 620 00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:35,800 Speaker 3: I agree over the course of one hundred and sixty 621 00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:38,920 Speaker 3: two games, the Mariners are a better baseball team as 622 00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:43,080 Speaker 3: they're built today than Detroit. But are they the better 623 00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:46,400 Speaker 3: team Friday because Scooball's pitching for the Tigers. I think 624 00:28:46,360 --> 00:28:48,960 Speaker 3: it's I don't think they are. I think it's I 625 00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:51,960 Speaker 3: think it's maybe fifty two forty eight Detroit, if not 626 00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:55,280 Speaker 3: maybe a little bit more special consider momentum exactly. 627 00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:56,640 Speaker 1: So I don't think. 628 00:28:56,840 --> 00:28:59,040 Speaker 3: I mean, we can't look at it from a standpoint 629 00:28:59,080 --> 00:29:03,080 Speaker 3: of who's got the better roster, because the roster doesn't 630 00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:06,760 Speaker 3: matter as much when Tarik's Scuball is on the freaking mound. 631 00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:09,440 Speaker 3: Like imagine if you had a soccer game, for example, 632 00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:11,400 Speaker 3: you call it football. By the way, there was a 633 00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:13,840 Speaker 3: soccer game and the whole game was penalty kicks, the 634 00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:16,960 Speaker 3: entire thing, and the one penalty kick you pick one 635 00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:19,040 Speaker 3: guy per side. And they had this guy who was 636 00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:23,000 Speaker 3: unbeatable goaltender amazing. I mean, you can neutralize that stuff. 637 00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:25,280 Speaker 3: And I, Dick, I do think over all the course 638 00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:27,479 Speaker 3: of the year, the Mariners are the better team. They 639 00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:29,240 Speaker 3: do have the better roster. If they played one hundred 640 00:29:29,280 --> 00:29:31,959 Speaker 3: and sixty games against the Tigers, maybe they win ninety 641 00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:35,360 Speaker 3: five of them, whatever, But are they the better team? 642 00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:38,880 Speaker 3: Friday and Ers when Tarrek Scuball is on the mound 643 00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:40,000 Speaker 3: for Detroit. 644 00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:43,760 Speaker 8: I think, if you just think of our starter versus 645 00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:46,360 Speaker 8: their starter, ion lineup versus our lineup. No, but I 646 00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:48,920 Speaker 8: like the idea, and I actually think the opposite of Chuck, 647 00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:51,080 Speaker 8: I would start Louise Castillo in this game. 648 00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:52,880 Speaker 1: I would too, I said the same thing. 649 00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:56,400 Speaker 8: However, far he goes yes, and you have as soon 650 00:29:56,440 --> 00:29:57,920 Speaker 8: as he has any sort of strike, you go to 651 00:29:57,960 --> 00:29:58,640 Speaker 8: George Kirby. 652 00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:01,120 Speaker 3: We saw it, George, he did in the playoffs. So 653 00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:05,800 Speaker 3: let's let's go back to the talk back. Here's number two, Dan, what. 654 00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:10,000 Speaker 9: Are you doing pulling your starters so dang early in 655 00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:14,040 Speaker 9: all these games. Your bullpen is now burnt out. They've 656 00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:17,480 Speaker 9: seen spire for freaking four of five games. 657 00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:18,840 Speaker 5: Unbelievable. 658 00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:21,960 Speaker 9: Please send Kirby out in game five and let him 659 00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:24,600 Speaker 9: go seven and shut this dang team down and go 660 00:30:24,680 --> 00:30:26,960 Speaker 9: get us in the ALCS. 661 00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:30,840 Speaker 3: Okay, so Miller went fifty five over four and a third. 662 00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:33,239 Speaker 3: And I think if you would have told me this 663 00:30:33,320 --> 00:30:36,000 Speaker 3: morning that we wake up in the fifth inning and 664 00:30:36,040 --> 00:30:37,840 Speaker 3: the Tigers have a goose egg on the board when 665 00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:40,880 Speaker 3: the fifth inning starts, I would have said, absa frecolutely 666 00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:43,720 Speaker 3: sign me up. So kudos to Bryce Miller. I think 667 00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:47,680 Speaker 3: he gave you as your fifth starter who's not even 668 00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:50,120 Speaker 3: supposed to be pitching in this series because Brian wu 669 00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:50,800 Speaker 3: got hurt. 670 00:30:51,040 --> 00:30:53,160 Speaker 1: I think he gave you everything you. 671 00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:55,120 Speaker 3: Wanted to get out of him, right, And if you 672 00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:57,920 Speaker 3: can't rely on your best arms in the bullpen to 673 00:30:58,000 --> 00:30:59,840 Speaker 3: get it done, then what the hell can you were 674 00:30:59,880 --> 00:30:59,960 Speaker 3: like on? 675 00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:00,520 Speaker 8: Right? 676 00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:02,120 Speaker 3: And I assume when the guy said four out of 677 00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:05,200 Speaker 3: five games, he's assuming Spire pitches again Friday, because he's 678 00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:06,640 Speaker 3: pitched in three games of the last four. 679 00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:09,880 Speaker 1: Will he'll right at least? But but guys, here's the thing. 680 00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:14,440 Speaker 3: Don't you think after the RBI was sort of double 681 00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:16,440 Speaker 3: by Dingler, is that right that drove in the first 682 00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:17,920 Speaker 3: run off of Bryce Miller. 683 00:31:18,280 --> 00:31:20,240 Speaker 1: If they left Bryce Miller. 684 00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:23,800 Speaker 3: In there and he got destroyed by the Tigers, offense. 685 00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:26,960 Speaker 3: Don't you think we're taking texts and talkbacks from people saying, 686 00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:29,560 Speaker 3: why the hell didn't you go to your best reliever 687 00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:32,680 Speaker 3: in game Spire and bizarre to what the hell? 688 00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:33,160 Speaker 5: I mean? 689 00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:36,240 Speaker 1: Either way, I think Dan Wilson's getting on. There's no way. 690 00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:38,040 Speaker 6: And that's why I mean, I gotta find I gotta 691 00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:40,840 Speaker 6: find something real, tangible. If I'm going to criticize Dan 692 00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:43,720 Speaker 6: Wilson in these situations and I don't find anything tangible today. 693 00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:44,080 Speaker 1: I really don't. 694 00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:47,480 Speaker 6: You can criticize him for not starting Gilbert in game one. 695 00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:50,000 Speaker 1: I mean, we might be done with this series if 696 00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:51,480 Speaker 1: you start Gilbert in game one. 697 00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:54,240 Speaker 6: But what were we saying, guys at the trade after 698 00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:54,959 Speaker 6: the trade deadline? 699 00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:58,200 Speaker 1: As as as happy as we were. 700 00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:02,880 Speaker 6: One more reliever that can get left handers out, That's 701 00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:04,600 Speaker 6: what we were saying after the trade. 702 00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:07,240 Speaker 3: Deadline, John, I mean, why do you think we were 703 00:32:07,280 --> 00:32:10,000 Speaker 3: pissed off at the deadline? Why do you think we 704 00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:11,640 Speaker 3: were mad at the deadline? And we I mean we 705 00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:13,760 Speaker 3: all said that that they got to get one more reliever, 706 00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:17,520 Speaker 3: and they they did. Guys, Look, who knows, Maybe they 707 00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:20,560 Speaker 3: win Friday and we can move on and forget it. 708 00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:24,040 Speaker 3: But the story is the story right where we're living 709 00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:27,840 Speaker 3: in the moment here? Okay, that they did nothing of 710 00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:31,600 Speaker 3: significance at the trade deadline to improve their bullpen nothing 711 00:32:31,920 --> 00:32:32,640 Speaker 3: I mean because. 712 00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:34,240 Speaker 6: I thought Caleb Ferguson was going to be a guy 713 00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:35,280 Speaker 6: that could get a couple left. 714 00:32:35,360 --> 00:32:37,560 Speaker 3: But in the end it just did not work out 715 00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:41,520 Speaker 3: with this guy. All right, what's next on the talk back? 716 00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:41,880 Speaker 1: Ends? 717 00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:42,200 Speaker 5: Go ahead? 718 00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:43,120 Speaker 1: We got one more than they got a. 719 00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:43,680 Speaker 5: Right, all right? 720 00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:48,600 Speaker 10: Dan Wilson was out coached again. 721 00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:50,240 Speaker 4: He has no feel for the game. 722 00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:52,880 Speaker 10: He reminds me of Dick's uncle, Scott Service. 723 00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:54,480 Speaker 2: No feel for the game. 724 00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:55,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, no feeling. 725 00:32:55,520 --> 00:32:58,480 Speaker 10: Game one should have brought Spire and we lost. Bryce 726 00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:01,400 Speaker 10: getting pulled was the right movie. But when Spier didn't 727 00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:03,280 Speaker 10: have it, why did he go back out there to 728 00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:06,720 Speaker 10: face Riley Green? Also, can Zone has hit lefties very 729 00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:09,360 Speaker 10: very well. We pull him for Garver and then switch 730 00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:10,920 Speaker 10: Garver for Luke Rayley. 731 00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:12,800 Speaker 1: For the rest of the game. Yeah, awful moves. 732 00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:14,240 Speaker 5: The righty lefty thing. 733 00:33:14,160 --> 00:33:14,680 Speaker 1: Is a joke. 734 00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:17,840 Speaker 3: Well, I'll tell you what. Aj Hinch had Dan Wilson's 735 00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:20,479 Speaker 3: number though. With that, is it Jami Jones? Is that 736 00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:22,560 Speaker 3: how you say his first name? Got like a nine 737 00:33:22,600 --> 00:33:25,800 Speaker 3: to seventy ops versus lefties. So when Wilson went to Spire, 738 00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:29,200 Speaker 3: aj Is like, here counter this, so ob and bang 739 00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:29,840 Speaker 3: he owned him. 740 00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:31,800 Speaker 1: I'm kind of surprised. Spire came back out though for 741 00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:34,120 Speaker 1: the next thinging, Yeah, I'm a lefty, but my god, 742 00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:36,120 Speaker 1: he was awful in the inning before. 743 00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:38,720 Speaker 8: I mean, would you rather have Terred Ferguson, No, I'd 744 00:33:38,760 --> 00:33:39,680 Speaker 8: rather have Gabe Spier. 745 00:33:40,520 --> 00:33:43,280 Speaker 3: I'd rather go down swinging with my best players. End 746 00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:45,480 Speaker 3: a story. By the way, we should get Scott Servis 747 00:33:45,520 --> 00:33:47,760 Speaker 3: on the ear and ask him for his thoughts. You 748 00:33:47,800 --> 00:33:51,120 Speaker 3: think Scott Servis was watching that game somewhere today, going, yeah, 749 00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:55,400 Speaker 3: he's rooting against the Mountains. You think he's big, Yeah, 750 00:33:55,720 --> 00:33:58,560 Speaker 3: you think he's better. Can you do you have his number? 751 00:33:58,560 --> 00:34:01,360 Speaker 3: By the way, service, can you you do? Can you 752 00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:03,120 Speaker 3: call him and see if he'll come on the air 753 00:34:03,160 --> 00:34:04,880 Speaker 3: and be an analyst for us for the rest of 754 00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:06,760 Speaker 3: the way. Scott, would you join us on the air 755 00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:07,280 Speaker 3: the rest. 756 00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:08,800 Speaker 5: Of the way? That's a question? 757 00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:12,080 Speaker 1: All right? Four two, we're gonna go back to the clubhouse. 758 00:34:12,640 --> 00:34:15,960 Speaker 3: More reaction from the Mariners loss to the Tigers, and 759 00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:18,560 Speaker 3: then we're gonna talk some football. Kevin Harlan at five 760 00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:20,600 Speaker 3: on ninety three to three KJR FM. 761 00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:30,640 Speaker 2: From the R and R Foundation Specialist broadcast Studio. Now 762 00:34:30,719 --> 00:34:34,080 Speaker 2: back to SOFTI and Dick on your home for the Huskies, 763 00:34:34,160 --> 00:34:37,520 Speaker 2: Kraken and the twelfth Man Sports Radio ninety three point 764 00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:40,479 Speaker 2: three kJ R FM. 765 00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:42,440 Speaker 1: All right, a couple of folks I want to thank. 766 00:34:43,160 --> 00:34:45,120 Speaker 3: First of all, Kevin Harlan will join us, coming up 767 00:34:45,160 --> 00:34:50,960 Speaker 3: at five o'clock today. Two hours of unfiltered emotional baseball 768 00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:53,960 Speaker 3: reaction after a nine to three Let's face it, guy's 769 00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:55,640 Speaker 3: kind of an ass kicking when it was all said 770 00:34:55,640 --> 00:34:58,320 Speaker 3: and done by the Tigers today at America Parking, Detroit. 771 00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:00,839 Speaker 3: The if you're just tuning in right now, jumped out 772 00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:03,480 Speaker 3: to a three to nothing lead, and then all hell 773 00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:07,760 Speaker 3: broke loose in the fifth inning. The Tigers scored nine unanswered, 774 00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:10,640 Speaker 3: nine unanswered and won the game nine to three. 775 00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:12,719 Speaker 1: So Game five is going to be in Seattle. 776 00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:16,200 Speaker 3: It'll be at one forty if the Yankees win tonight, 777 00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:19,040 Speaker 3: five oh eight if the Blue Jays win today, and 778 00:35:19,120 --> 00:35:21,399 Speaker 3: right now, the Blue Jays are leading the Yankees one 779 00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:24,319 Speaker 3: nothing in the middle of the third, the Cubs are 780 00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:26,879 Speaker 3: up in the Brewers four to three as Milwaukee looks 781 00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:30,480 Speaker 3: to close out Chicago after seven, and the Phillies and 782 00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:34,359 Speaker 3: Dodgers coming up at six oh eight tonight. Petros Papadacus, 783 00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:36,840 Speaker 3: by the way, will join us for a short version 784 00:35:36,920 --> 00:35:38,800 Speaker 3: at about six twenty eight tonight. 785 00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:40,600 Speaker 1: Kevin Harlan coming up at five. 786 00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:43,520 Speaker 3: But I want to thank Slaquami Casino for stepping up 787 00:35:43,840 --> 00:35:47,359 Speaker 3: and being our postseason sponsor. Close to the sports book 788 00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:49,920 Speaker 3: is it's Slaguami Casino. Your place for a true in 789 00:35:50,080 --> 00:35:53,560 Speaker 3: game betting experience. Details at snowcasino dot com. And I 790 00:35:53,640 --> 00:35:56,080 Speaker 3: want to thank Jackson Feltz for not being here today 791 00:35:56,480 --> 00:35:58,440 Speaker 3: so we can make the pick for him on Factor 792 00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:00,600 Speaker 3: fiction because when he makes the pick stick did you 793 00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:03,280 Speaker 3: like my pick? I did like your pick Raiders points 794 00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:05,680 Speaker 3: against the Titans. Did you like our pick yesterday? By 795 00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:07,160 Speaker 3: the way, did you enjoy that one? 796 00:36:07,239 --> 00:36:12,320 Speaker 1: I did not. That's a guaranteed winner, the one that. 797 00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:14,720 Speaker 3: We made yesterday when we were all in a panic 798 00:36:14,800 --> 00:36:17,839 Speaker 3: mode man before the game, trying to sneak it in. 799 00:36:17,880 --> 00:36:22,560 Speaker 3: But cal Raleigh uh in the clubhouse. After this game today, 800 00:36:23,080 --> 00:36:25,240 Speaker 3: let's hear from the captain. Let's hear from the leader 801 00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:28,279 Speaker 3: of this baseball team on how they rally and get 802 00:36:28,360 --> 00:36:30,400 Speaker 3: a win in Game five on Friday. 803 00:36:30,640 --> 00:36:32,360 Speaker 1: Here's the hopeful MVP. 804 00:36:33,360 --> 00:36:39,520 Speaker 11: It makes some really good thanks good pitches and you really, 805 00:36:39,560 --> 00:36:43,200 Speaker 11: I mean you you've done one hard hit too, Dangler. 806 00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:46,200 Speaker 11: Let's score the run and you know, let's yeah, really 807 00:36:46,239 --> 00:36:47,319 Speaker 11: the mistake. 808 00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:49,320 Speaker 1: Cal what are the questions? 809 00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:53,120 Speaker 11: Get any game like this, but you guys get their community, 810 00:36:53,160 --> 00:36:54,160 Speaker 11: they come back. 811 00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:56,680 Speaker 5: The crowd gets back into it's just all the. 812 00:36:56,719 --> 00:36:57,880 Speaker 1: Ups and downs to today. 813 00:36:58,760 --> 00:37:02,360 Speaker 11: Oh yeah, I mean took the lead and couldn't hold it. 814 00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:04,560 Speaker 11: So it's unfortunate, but you know, flush it. 815 00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:05,080 Speaker 5: We'll go up to that. 816 00:37:05,640 --> 00:37:09,960 Speaker 11: Yeah, well Friday, so it's best and so good. You see, 817 00:37:10,719 --> 00:37:14,719 Speaker 11: fit just a familiar over I mean yeah, I mean 818 00:37:14,760 --> 00:37:17,239 Speaker 11: but it goes both ways. So you know they've been 819 00:37:17,239 --> 00:37:19,319 Speaker 11: throwing the ball good all year. You know, I uh, 820 00:37:19,520 --> 00:37:22,720 Speaker 11: I have confidence if I bounced back on five, for sure. 821 00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:24,440 Speaker 5: It's being bouncing that we've seen you guys do that 822 00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:25,600 Speaker 5: so many times this year. 823 00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:28,200 Speaker 1: And you know, obviously it's not maybe in the media APNA. 824 00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:29,960 Speaker 9: That is certainly the mindset and move board that we've 825 00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:31,040 Speaker 9: seen you guys do this before. 826 00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:32,000 Speaker 5: What does it take? 827 00:37:32,040 --> 00:37:33,680 Speaker 1: What is it special about this team that is allowed 828 00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:34,920 Speaker 1: you to do that so much this season. 829 00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:36,759 Speaker 11: Yeah, I mean, you know, we've got a lot of 830 00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:40,040 Speaker 11: resiliency in this club, and you know, I have confidence 831 00:37:40,040 --> 00:37:42,520 Speaker 11: to the guys that we're gonna go out and play 832 00:37:42,680 --> 00:37:45,120 Speaker 11: play good baseball. It's gonna be tough, so we're up 833 00:37:45,120 --> 00:37:47,600 Speaker 11: for the challenge. And that's such a guest on there. 834 00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:50,160 Speaker 11: Face good pitching and face good teams, and there's gonna 835 00:37:50,160 --> 00:37:52,279 Speaker 11: be challenges about the road, and you know we're up 836 00:37:52,320 --> 00:37:55,160 Speaker 11: for for Friday. Got to store your name, whether it 837 00:37:55,200 --> 00:37:56,799 Speaker 11: be Kirby or in the least, how much we're both 838 00:37:56,800 --> 00:37:58,520 Speaker 11: a little bit of both, and how much competition those 839 00:37:58,560 --> 00:38:00,800 Speaker 11: two around now, Yeah, I mean we have what's confidence 840 00:38:01,080 --> 00:38:03,319 Speaker 11: in all of our guys. So you know, they both 841 00:38:03,440 --> 00:38:05,799 Speaker 11: thought through the ball really well the first time. So 842 00:38:06,880 --> 00:38:09,120 Speaker 11: those Game five, if you think it happen, you know, 843 00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:12,160 Speaker 11: one game series, So go out there, you know, give 844 00:38:12,200 --> 00:38:14,520 Speaker 11: it your best go and you know from there that's 845 00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:15,279 Speaker 11: all you can do. 846 00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:19,600 Speaker 3: So ky Rolly, he's seven for sixteen in this series, 847 00:38:19,640 --> 00:38:22,160 Speaker 3: so I think he's doing good at the plate. There's 848 00:38:22,200 --> 00:38:24,080 Speaker 3: no doubt about it. And I was just thinking about 849 00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:26,359 Speaker 3: this in my little brain here, Dick, that if they 850 00:38:26,360 --> 00:38:29,520 Speaker 3: can somehow, somehow find a way to win on Friday 851 00:38:29,640 --> 00:38:35,000 Speaker 3: against Trek Scoble. What an unbelievable injection of energy and 852 00:38:35,080 --> 00:38:38,160 Speaker 3: momentum that would give this baseball team to survive a 853 00:38:38,239 --> 00:38:42,719 Speaker 3: Game five elimination against Detroit and then going to Toronto 854 00:38:43,400 --> 00:38:46,000 Speaker 3: coming back home Sunday to take on the Yankees. It 855 00:38:46,120 --> 00:38:48,319 Speaker 3: kind of I mean, right, look, right now, there's no 856 00:38:48,440 --> 00:38:51,400 Speaker 3: middle ground. Right Either A, we're going to bed Friday 857 00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:54,280 Speaker 3: night and we're bummed out beyond belief and we're pissed 858 00:38:54,320 --> 00:38:57,719 Speaker 3: off beyond belief and we're heartbroken beyond belief. Or we're 859 00:38:57,760 --> 00:39:01,400 Speaker 3: ready to jump through a freaking wall for this baseball team. 860 00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:05,799 Speaker 3: Either way, this is playoff baseball. There's no middle ground here. 861 00:39:05,840 --> 00:39:08,239 Speaker 3: I mean, just think about the emotions you had last night. 862 00:39:08,719 --> 00:39:12,160 Speaker 3: I couldn't even sleep last night thinking about this. This morning, 863 00:39:12,200 --> 00:39:15,040 Speaker 3: I'm pacing around the house waiting for twelve oh eight 864 00:39:15,120 --> 00:39:18,680 Speaker 3: to start. These swing in emotions from one game to 865 00:39:18,719 --> 00:39:21,080 Speaker 3: the next, one serious to the next. Is why the 866 00:39:21,080 --> 00:39:23,000 Speaker 3: baseball playoffs are so freaking. 867 00:39:22,680 --> 00:39:25,120 Speaker 6: Going well on the swinging momentum too, And I think 868 00:39:25,320 --> 00:39:28,040 Speaker 6: I understand what Anders saying, Hey, Detroit's got the momentum 869 00:39:28,080 --> 00:39:30,520 Speaker 6: going in Game five. You're right Troit's got the momentum 870 00:39:30,560 --> 00:39:33,879 Speaker 6: going into a game five. But the Mariners had all 871 00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:36,480 Speaker 6: the momentum in the world when they were up three 872 00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:39,960 Speaker 6: to ninf thing, and they still gave up nine runs 873 00:39:39,960 --> 00:39:42,880 Speaker 6: in a row. So just because there's momentum, that doesn't 874 00:39:42,920 --> 00:39:46,000 Speaker 6: necessarily mean that the team that's gonna win the game. 875 00:39:45,880 --> 00:39:46,279 Speaker 1: No doubt. 876 00:39:46,320 --> 00:39:48,160 Speaker 3: And you can also lose it and you can also 877 00:39:48,239 --> 00:39:50,680 Speaker 3: get it back very quickly. I mean, look at the Tigers, 878 00:39:51,280 --> 00:39:53,640 Speaker 3: like you just study yourself, by the way, and the Yankees, 879 00:39:53,680 --> 00:39:57,920 Speaker 3: Yankees hit nikies just tied the game, Ryan McMahon, they 880 00:39:57,920 --> 00:40:01,560 Speaker 3: got from Colorado. It's one, one, bottom three. But this 881 00:40:01,640 --> 00:40:06,600 Speaker 3: is a Tiger baseball team that since what is the 882 00:40:06,719 --> 00:40:09,440 Speaker 3: record I'm going back to the end of the year. 883 00:40:10,560 --> 00:40:12,200 Speaker 1: There, since the we swept him. 884 00:40:12,200 --> 00:40:14,600 Speaker 6: Honestly, here's here's what they are in the second since 885 00:40:14,640 --> 00:40:16,800 Speaker 6: the All Star breaks, all right, going, they were twenty 886 00:40:16,840 --> 00:40:20,040 Speaker 6: eight and thirty seven right on the season. They were 887 00:40:20,120 --> 00:40:23,960 Speaker 6: twelve games worse than the Seattle Mariners since the All 888 00:40:23,960 --> 00:40:24,480 Speaker 6: Star Break. 889 00:40:24,600 --> 00:40:27,239 Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's what they are. That's what they've been. 890 00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:30,840 Speaker 3: But again, if the one game was Casey Meis or 891 00:40:30,960 --> 00:40:34,040 Speaker 3: Jack Flaherty, it would just feel so different. But the 892 00:40:34,080 --> 00:40:37,120 Speaker 3: one game is maybe the best pitcher in baseball who 893 00:40:37,200 --> 00:40:39,560 Speaker 3: you now have to beat for a fourth time in 894 00:40:39,640 --> 00:40:42,880 Speaker 3: a season. This is I don't think there's anything wrong 895 00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:46,960 Speaker 3: with admitting this is a daunting task for them on Friday, well, 896 00:40:47,120 --> 00:40:50,200 Speaker 3: to get this done, huge, huge, daunting tasks. 897 00:40:50,360 --> 00:40:53,720 Speaker 6: Vegas has them as Detroit minus one thirty two Seattle 898 00:40:53,719 --> 00:40:57,439 Speaker 6: plus one on the favor They're slightly favored in game 899 00:40:57,520 --> 00:40:58,000 Speaker 6: number five. 900 00:40:58,080 --> 00:41:00,160 Speaker 3: Well, let's do this, Kevin Harlan, We're gonna wave from 901 00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:03,439 Speaker 3: baseball for a few minutes. Kevin Harlan his weekly visit 902 00:41:03,480 --> 00:41:06,200 Speaker 3: courtesy at Twin Peaks tuck Willa. He just saw the 903 00:41:06,280 --> 00:41:09,000 Speaker 3: Jaguars on Monday night, who the Hawks will see on Sunday. 904 00:41:09,080 --> 00:41:11,319 Speaker 3: So because he liked the position the Hawks are in 905 00:41:11,440 --> 00:41:14,160 Speaker 3: on Sunday. Next on ninety three to three KJRFL