1 00:00:00,800 --> 00:00:03,760 Speaker 1: Jeff Jonia calls games for the Chicago Bears, one of 2 00:00:03,800 --> 00:00:04,840 Speaker 1: the best in the NFL. 3 00:00:04,920 --> 00:00:07,560 Speaker 2: He does radio and TV. And I'm like, so what 4 00:00:07,600 --> 00:00:09,440 Speaker 2: do you do here every year at the combine? 5 00:00:09,560 --> 00:00:11,880 Speaker 3: Same stuff you're doing, except I'm not doing a talk show. 6 00:00:12,280 --> 00:00:14,280 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, a little bit of everything. 7 00:00:14,360 --> 00:00:16,040 Speaker 2: That's because you got that Bears pension money. 8 00:00:16,040 --> 00:00:18,439 Speaker 4: And I was gonna say, you've been a Bears an 9 00:00:18,440 --> 00:00:19,360 Speaker 4: employee now for what. 10 00:00:20,400 --> 00:00:23,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, this is my twenty fifth season calling Vikings football. 11 00:00:23,000 --> 00:00:24,080 Speaker 5: Do you have an office in house? 12 00:00:24,120 --> 00:00:24,320 Speaker 3: Hot? 13 00:00:24,440 --> 00:00:26,400 Speaker 2: No, I don't. I don't have Winny again. 14 00:00:26,520 --> 00:00:28,479 Speaker 1: And I'm not in the pension because I'm not a 15 00:00:28,520 --> 00:00:30,280 Speaker 1: team employee pension. 16 00:00:30,360 --> 00:00:34,840 Speaker 3: I'm not a team employee. Yeah, you know personal services 17 00:00:34,840 --> 00:00:36,640 Speaker 3: contract now that that doesn't count. 18 00:00:36,840 --> 00:00:39,040 Speaker 2: Have you started looking at property in Indiana? 19 00:00:39,159 --> 00:00:39,479 Speaker 3: No? 20 00:00:39,479 --> 00:00:42,120 Speaker 2: No, like Anderson, Indiana, Bloomington. 21 00:00:41,920 --> 00:00:47,920 Speaker 3: Well no, nope, nope, I'm still holding out hope whatever, listen, 22 00:00:48,479 --> 00:00:50,880 Speaker 3: whatever the organization feels his best. 23 00:00:52,840 --> 00:00:58,720 Speaker 4: That's assistant general manager, right, Ryan Grigson, Hammond, Indiana Native. 24 00:00:59,240 --> 00:01:03,360 Speaker 4: He has the inside any real estate that you may 25 00:01:03,400 --> 00:01:04,400 Speaker 4: need or want. 26 00:01:04,600 --> 00:01:07,000 Speaker 2: Including his places. 27 00:01:07,480 --> 00:01:09,279 Speaker 3: Everything is a process. Let's see what happens. 28 00:01:09,319 --> 00:01:10,119 Speaker 5: Let's see what happens. 29 00:01:10,200 --> 00:01:14,319 Speaker 1: You can sort of drive down here from there. Okay, 30 00:01:14,400 --> 00:01:18,039 Speaker 1: let's be serious. The Bears in Indiana, stuff like, how 31 00:01:18,120 --> 00:01:19,080 Speaker 1: much do you think about it? 32 00:01:19,680 --> 00:01:23,039 Speaker 3: I don't. I don't know. It's a it's a long 33 00:01:23,120 --> 00:01:27,000 Speaker 3: way away from whatever happens. And uh, I just I 34 00:01:27,120 --> 00:01:29,960 Speaker 3: just want the Bears to have a world class stadium 35 00:01:30,000 --> 00:01:31,840 Speaker 3: and I want the fans to be able to enjoy 36 00:01:31,840 --> 00:01:33,920 Speaker 3: every aspect of it. It's something that I feel the 37 00:01:33,959 --> 00:01:37,160 Speaker 3: fans deserve. And it's been a long time, a long 38 00:01:37,240 --> 00:01:39,280 Speaker 3: time effort to try and get a new stadium, and 39 00:01:39,319 --> 00:01:42,440 Speaker 3: so it feels like we're in the home stretch of something. 40 00:01:42,520 --> 00:01:44,240 Speaker 4: Well, I guess we know what he feels about Soldier 41 00:01:44,280 --> 00:01:46,080 Speaker 4: Field with that comment, right. 42 00:01:46,520 --> 00:01:50,440 Speaker 3: Well, you know, I always felt that the franchise should 43 00:01:50,440 --> 00:01:53,440 Speaker 3: own their own stadium, and so they would not own 44 00:01:53,480 --> 00:01:55,840 Speaker 3: their own stadium in Chicago. So and I don't know 45 00:01:55,880 --> 00:01:57,720 Speaker 3: how this would all work wherever they go. I know 46 00:01:57,760 --> 00:02:00,520 Speaker 3: they got Arlington, they got the Arlington, they have track. 47 00:02:00,960 --> 00:02:03,960 Speaker 3: I was recently in Atlanta at the Battery Area. I 48 00:02:03,960 --> 00:02:07,080 Speaker 3: don't know if you've been there. It's tremendous. 49 00:02:07,080 --> 00:02:08,240 Speaker 2: People told me about it. 50 00:02:08,280 --> 00:02:11,520 Speaker 1: But he met people named Lolita and Tangle Ray and 51 00:02:11,600 --> 00:02:12,360 Speaker 1: never went back. 52 00:02:12,680 --> 00:02:15,120 Speaker 3: But the Brave Stadium. You know, you open up Domni 53 00:02:15,160 --> 00:02:18,000 Speaker 3: Hotel windows and you're in the center field of the 54 00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:20,920 Speaker 3: Brave Stadium. They got the Atlanta Hawks right there as well. 55 00:02:20,960 --> 00:02:23,960 Speaker 3: But it's like Wrigleyville. You guys have been to Wrigleyville. 56 00:02:23,960 --> 00:02:27,520 Speaker 3: It's fantastic, But they own all that property. So you 57 00:02:27,639 --> 00:02:29,600 Speaker 3: own the property that a hotel is going to be 58 00:02:29,600 --> 00:02:31,960 Speaker 3: built on, or the brand new hotel that's being built 59 00:02:32,440 --> 00:02:34,840 Speaker 3: just across the street from the Omni called the Henry, 60 00:02:34,880 --> 00:02:38,320 Speaker 3: which is a very nice hotel, boutique hotel. And then 61 00:02:38,680 --> 00:02:42,400 Speaker 3: you've got you know, I'm learning that four thousand fans 62 00:02:42,919 --> 00:02:45,280 Speaker 3: every night at home games for Atlanta Braves games never 63 00:02:45,320 --> 00:02:48,079 Speaker 3: stepped foot in the stadium. But the revenue that you're 64 00:02:48,160 --> 00:02:51,359 Speaker 3: generating here, So that's why I think it's important today's world. 65 00:02:51,639 --> 00:02:54,600 Speaker 3: That's the same true for college campuses. Now my alma mater, 66 00:02:54,639 --> 00:02:56,920 Speaker 3: Iowa State's building sidetown. It's going to be like a 67 00:02:56,919 --> 00:03:00,600 Speaker 3: little Wrigleyville. This is money making, you know, for a 68 00:03:00,639 --> 00:03:01,520 Speaker 3: lot of different reasons. 69 00:03:02,960 --> 00:03:05,639 Speaker 4: All right, Jeff, So you've been think about the change 70 00:03:05,639 --> 00:03:08,359 Speaker 4: for you at the combine with the Bears going from 71 00:03:08,480 --> 00:03:12,760 Speaker 4: drafting number one overall top ten picks and then to 72 00:03:12,800 --> 00:03:15,640 Speaker 4: see that investment come to fruition and you win the 73 00:03:15,639 --> 00:03:17,080 Speaker 4: division this year? 74 00:03:17,800 --> 00:03:19,840 Speaker 5: What is it? What is most. 75 00:03:19,639 --> 00:03:23,160 Speaker 4: Imperative for the Bears to stay on top and then 76 00:03:23,560 --> 00:03:27,360 Speaker 4: to get to the NFC Championship or the Super Bowl? 77 00:03:27,800 --> 00:03:28,720 Speaker 2: What do they need to do? 78 00:03:28,800 --> 00:03:33,160 Speaker 3: All right, roster, let's just keep knowing that you can win, 79 00:03:34,240 --> 00:03:38,440 Speaker 3: not not hoping, not learning how to. 80 00:03:39,800 --> 00:03:43,040 Speaker 4: So we we kind of knowing. We witnessed that one 81 00:03:43,120 --> 00:03:47,000 Speaker 4: score differential. Did you did twenty two to twenty three? 82 00:03:47,120 --> 00:03:47,320 Speaker 6: Yeah? 83 00:03:47,480 --> 00:03:48,520 Speaker 3: Right, you guys are amazing. 84 00:03:48,640 --> 00:03:48,960 Speaker 5: It was. 85 00:03:49,480 --> 00:03:51,720 Speaker 4: We won I don't know how many games by one score. 86 00:03:51,760 --> 00:03:54,520 Speaker 4: We sent a records eight nine of them. Oh, Connor 87 00:03:54,640 --> 00:03:56,960 Speaker 4: was like nineteen to one at that at one point. Yeah, 88 00:03:57,000 --> 00:04:01,160 Speaker 4: and so we we've witnessed that. So what was that on? 89 00:04:01,280 --> 00:04:04,240 Speaker 4: My start to believe? Were before the players? 90 00:04:04,320 --> 00:04:07,280 Speaker 1: Are you having post season PGSD right now? You got 91 00:04:07,280 --> 00:04:09,600 Speaker 1: all nervous and you squirming in your chairs. 92 00:04:09,640 --> 00:04:12,320 Speaker 3: I can't wait to see what's next. Yeah, it's that feeling. 93 00:04:12,400 --> 00:04:14,840 Speaker 3: And I felt that way every fourth quarter because after 94 00:04:14,880 --> 00:04:17,520 Speaker 3: a while you're like, okay, you're down twenty one to 95 00:04:17,560 --> 00:04:19,520 Speaker 3: three out of the Packers. There we go again, and 96 00:04:19,600 --> 00:04:22,000 Speaker 3: the new Packers the boogeyman is gonna bite us again? 97 00:04:22,680 --> 00:04:28,360 Speaker 3: And then every halftime with Jason mckeare sideline reporter, it 98 00:04:28,400 --> 00:04:31,359 Speaker 3: became one word answers, wow to his question and he 99 00:04:31,480 --> 00:04:34,919 Speaker 3: just walk off and if I'll be damned if not. 100 00:04:35,040 --> 00:04:38,479 Speaker 3: Every week it was checking that box, okay, knowing so 101 00:04:38,600 --> 00:04:41,000 Speaker 3: wait to the fourth quarter and the way it's set up, 102 00:04:41,080 --> 00:04:45,760 Speaker 3: it felt like that Patriots win over the Falcons in 103 00:04:45,800 --> 00:04:49,080 Speaker 3: the Super Bowl, where every single thing that happened when 104 00:04:49,080 --> 00:04:51,160 Speaker 3: they fell behind had to happen, when it happened, and 105 00:04:51,200 --> 00:04:53,839 Speaker 3: why it happened. And this is how the Bears games 106 00:04:53,839 --> 00:04:56,560 Speaker 3: did things happen. You'll wound up with the football in 107 00:04:56,600 --> 00:04:58,560 Speaker 3: the final minute and twenty seconds ago in the game 108 00:04:58,600 --> 00:05:01,920 Speaker 3: and they were gonna either make a close, close crack 109 00:05:02,000 --> 00:05:03,000 Speaker 3: at it, they're gonna win. 110 00:05:03,120 --> 00:05:05,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, but one guy was Tom Brady who did it? 111 00:05:05,400 --> 00:05:08,159 Speaker 1: You had a second year Caleb Williamson. 112 00:05:07,720 --> 00:05:09,640 Speaker 2: So what jumped? But he jumped out of his skin 113 00:05:09,760 --> 00:05:10,239 Speaker 2: to get. 114 00:05:10,080 --> 00:05:13,359 Speaker 3: You to tell you what's that day? My gosh, I 115 00:05:13,480 --> 00:05:15,800 Speaker 3: keep bringing this up, but in all the years you're 116 00:05:15,800 --> 00:05:19,839 Speaker 3: calling games, all the year's pete you playing games fifty 117 00:05:19,920 --> 00:05:23,560 Speaker 3: one point six yards for a fourteen yard red zone touchdown? 118 00:05:23,640 --> 00:05:25,400 Speaker 3: In the divisional place ever seen? 119 00:05:25,839 --> 00:05:28,440 Speaker 2: Oh the throw back left of the end zone? Why? 120 00:05:28,800 --> 00:05:29,239 Speaker 2: Oh wow? 121 00:05:29,600 --> 00:05:30,000 Speaker 5: What? 122 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:32,039 Speaker 3: What in God's greener how does this happen? 123 00:05:32,080 --> 00:05:34,320 Speaker 1: You're not beating yourself up anymore for the call, are you? 124 00:05:34,400 --> 00:05:36,120 Speaker 1: Because he did lob it. I went and watched the 125 00:05:36,160 --> 00:05:39,040 Speaker 1: last night after you sending me yesterday. We talked about 126 00:05:39,040 --> 00:05:40,760 Speaker 1: the call, and yet. 127 00:05:40,640 --> 00:05:45,640 Speaker 3: Who lobs a fifty one point Jeff George, say Williams, 128 00:05:46,080 --> 00:05:46,720 Speaker 3: Jeff George. 129 00:05:47,040 --> 00:05:48,840 Speaker 5: He said he could toss at seventy right now? 130 00:05:48,880 --> 00:05:50,000 Speaker 2: Yeah he did? 131 00:05:50,080 --> 00:05:53,520 Speaker 3: I bet he? Yeah, that guy, that guy, uh Greg Cosel. 132 00:05:53,600 --> 00:05:55,800 Speaker 3: I interviewed him earlier and he just got a kick 133 00:05:55,800 --> 00:05:57,800 Speaker 3: out of seeing Jeff George talk about a guy who 134 00:05:57,839 --> 00:05:58,159 Speaker 3: could just. 135 00:05:58,160 --> 00:06:01,520 Speaker 1: Spin it, I know, effortlessly? What what? What was it 136 00:06:01,600 --> 00:06:02,800 Speaker 1: like calling those games? 137 00:06:03,160 --> 00:06:06,839 Speaker 3: As you know, it's an adrenaline rush that goes having. 138 00:06:07,360 --> 00:06:11,000 Speaker 3: But but here's here's what I kept saying. And I 139 00:06:11,000 --> 00:06:13,920 Speaker 3: don't know if you ever felt this, but there's more 140 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:18,280 Speaker 3: to it than just the play. It's everything around it. 141 00:06:18,440 --> 00:06:21,120 Speaker 3: So the stadium and the first time in my career 142 00:06:21,120 --> 00:06:24,359 Speaker 3: it was heaving. It was it was actually we the 143 00:06:24,400 --> 00:06:26,920 Speaker 3: stadium was shaking, And I don't know if that's good 144 00:06:26,960 --> 00:06:27,240 Speaker 3: or bad. 145 00:06:28,400 --> 00:06:31,599 Speaker 4: We felt that one time and Joe was it was 146 00:06:31,600 --> 00:06:37,240 Speaker 4: it shaking because of the col comet push off. 147 00:06:35,760 --> 00:06:37,440 Speaker 3: Means necessary, calm. 148 00:06:37,160 --> 00:06:40,240 Speaker 2: It down game super Dome. 149 00:06:40,520 --> 00:06:43,240 Speaker 1: They stood up every single play the five game and 150 00:06:43,480 --> 00:06:46,719 Speaker 1: we get bounced. It was Pete's coffee. 151 00:06:46,920 --> 00:06:47,799 Speaker 5: Every time they scored. 152 00:06:47,839 --> 00:06:50,680 Speaker 4: You played New Orleans, they scored touchdown and they go 153 00:06:50,720 --> 00:06:52,400 Speaker 4: to commercial break and what do they do. They play 154 00:06:52,440 --> 00:06:56,200 Speaker 4: the music and everybody dances. I have a video from 155 00:06:56,279 --> 00:06:58,800 Speaker 4: on my phone showing the crowd dancing and during the 156 00:06:58,800 --> 00:07:00,880 Speaker 4: commercial break and then it hands to my cup of 157 00:07:00,920 --> 00:07:03,479 Speaker 4: coffee and I'm literally doing this damn like you're on 158 00:07:03,520 --> 00:07:06,000 Speaker 4: the tit tring. And I have video of Sean Payton 159 00:07:06,120 --> 00:07:09,400 Speaker 4: cheating with the bounty gate and subsequently it was suspended 160 00:07:09,400 --> 00:07:09,680 Speaker 4: a year. 161 00:07:09,720 --> 00:07:11,760 Speaker 2: But anyway, but so I continue. 162 00:07:12,320 --> 00:07:16,320 Speaker 3: It felt cinematic to me, honestly, especially because it was 163 00:07:16,520 --> 00:07:21,560 Speaker 3: sensory overload. It was the robust, the robust response to 164 00:07:21,640 --> 00:07:24,720 Speaker 3: the fans from start to finish. They hung in there 165 00:07:24,760 --> 00:07:26,040 Speaker 3: when things weren't going well. 166 00:07:26,640 --> 00:07:29,679 Speaker 1: Mablem a standing ovation despite losing when they times. 167 00:07:29,680 --> 00:07:30,760 Speaker 3: Have you seen that in your life? 168 00:07:30,840 --> 00:07:34,960 Speaker 1: Into the tunnel It was loud and long in football? Yes, never, never, 169 00:07:35,040 --> 00:07:35,520 Speaker 1: I never have. 170 00:07:35,680 --> 00:07:37,640 Speaker 3: The players are never going to forget that. Believe me, 171 00:07:37,680 --> 00:07:40,760 Speaker 3: it resonated with them because maybe they'll be able to 172 00:07:41,440 --> 00:07:44,960 Speaker 3: anticipate then that in the future. But also respect the 173 00:07:44,960 --> 00:07:47,320 Speaker 3: fact that they get booed. Yeah, because they loved you 174 00:07:47,440 --> 00:07:49,080 Speaker 3: up and they didn't want to leave the stadium. 175 00:07:49,120 --> 00:07:49,480 Speaker 5: Good point. 176 00:07:49,520 --> 00:07:50,680 Speaker 3: They were trying to get them out of the state. 177 00:07:50,800 --> 00:07:52,800 Speaker 3: They didn't want to leave. I had friends that went 178 00:07:52,840 --> 00:07:56,400 Speaker 3: out after the game, butch McGuire's down on Rush Street 179 00:07:56,400 --> 00:07:59,200 Speaker 3: at that area. They were closing at four fifteen, last call. 180 00:07:59,280 --> 00:08:00,080 Speaker 3: They stayed those six. 181 00:08:00,040 --> 00:08:00,520 Speaker 5: In the morning. 182 00:08:00,720 --> 00:08:04,040 Speaker 3: They were all Bears fans. So the Bears are back 183 00:08:04,160 --> 00:08:07,200 Speaker 3: like this city of fuels. 184 00:08:07,240 --> 00:08:10,320 Speaker 5: Were you he was crazy? Were you upset? Stepped all 185 00:08:10,320 --> 00:08:11,040 Speaker 5: over your touchdown? 186 00:08:11,440 --> 00:08:13,160 Speaker 2: No? 187 00:08:12,040 --> 00:08:16,200 Speaker 3: No, I don't know, and I don't care. Okay, So 188 00:08:16,480 --> 00:08:20,400 Speaker 3: he miracle they had so stupid, doesn't get up out 189 00:08:20,400 --> 00:08:26,200 Speaker 3: of his chair much. It was just raw wow high five. 190 00:08:26,240 --> 00:08:28,240 Speaker 3: And the fans in the booth, you know, because we're 191 00:08:28,240 --> 00:08:30,160 Speaker 3: on the west side of the Yeah, we've had many 192 00:08:30,200 --> 00:08:33,040 Speaker 3: of your fans on your booth are phenomenal. But but 193 00:08:33,080 --> 00:08:35,360 Speaker 3: they're they're they're coming into for the first time in 194 00:08:35,440 --> 00:08:38,040 Speaker 3: my twenty five years. They're trying to reach in and 195 00:08:38,120 --> 00:08:42,360 Speaker 3: on the Fox and so. But when that when the 196 00:08:42,480 --> 00:08:47,520 Speaker 3: throw byke By Caleb to d J against Kasehawn Nixon, 197 00:08:47,640 --> 00:08:52,080 Speaker 3: I felt like the stadium people strangers dancing and it 198 00:08:52,120 --> 00:08:54,439 Speaker 3: was like a slow motion movie. That's why it was cinematic. 199 00:08:54,720 --> 00:08:58,440 Speaker 3: When the snow started falling, Oh, I mean so reason 200 00:08:58,520 --> 00:09:02,360 Speaker 3: when the snow falls a Bears game, the fans just 201 00:09:02,440 --> 00:09:05,880 Speaker 3: lose their mind. I almost swore just there and and 202 00:09:06,040 --> 00:09:08,680 Speaker 3: they just and it adds to the drama. And it 203 00:09:08,800 --> 00:09:09,959 Speaker 3: was just I don't. 204 00:09:09,800 --> 00:09:12,680 Speaker 2: Know believe that he was going to that he was 205 00:09:12,679 --> 00:09:13,680 Speaker 2: going to Santa Clara A. 206 00:09:13,720 --> 00:09:17,120 Speaker 5: Lot like the opening overtime. 207 00:09:17,200 --> 00:09:17,920 Speaker 2: Oh that's right. 208 00:09:18,280 --> 00:09:21,000 Speaker 1: Well, you talk about the surreal moments about a body 209 00:09:21,080 --> 00:09:23,040 Speaker 1: and it's it's going well. 210 00:09:23,440 --> 00:09:23,760 Speaker 2: Nine. 211 00:09:24,000 --> 00:09:26,360 Speaker 1: When the Vikings got the ball with two minutes left, 212 00:09:26,400 --> 00:09:28,480 Speaker 1: I can't remember exactly the words. I said, we come 213 00:09:28,480 --> 00:09:31,240 Speaker 1: out of break and I say to Pete, Pete, this 214 00:09:31,320 --> 00:09:35,520 Speaker 1: is what everybody always talks about. We have Brett Farv 215 00:09:36,160 --> 00:09:39,520 Speaker 1: and the ball to go to Miami, right, and. 216 00:09:39,440 --> 00:09:41,400 Speaker 2: Then he threw it to Tracy Porter and we went home. 217 00:09:41,480 --> 00:09:42,320 Speaker 3: I'll never forget that. 218 00:09:43,400 --> 00:09:43,840 Speaker 5: The whole thing. 219 00:09:44,880 --> 00:09:49,040 Speaker 4: Two many men out there after a time out, no doubt, yeah. 220 00:09:48,640 --> 00:09:53,959 Speaker 2: About your miracle call Minneapolis miracle. If you know mine, well, 221 00:09:53,800 --> 00:09:55,200 Speaker 2: we can imitate it right now. 222 00:09:55,400 --> 00:09:56,120 Speaker 3: Pardon my French. 223 00:09:56,200 --> 00:09:57,760 Speaker 2: Now we can imitate it right now. 224 00:09:58,840 --> 00:10:00,120 Speaker 5: Caught, I dig I don't and. 225 00:10:00,720 --> 00:10:06,280 Speaker 1: And and the thing, the crazy thing is it was 226 00:10:06,320 --> 00:10:08,960 Speaker 1: such an immortality like play itself. 227 00:10:09,320 --> 00:10:09,520 Speaker 3: You know. 228 00:10:09,559 --> 00:10:11,080 Speaker 1: Now, all of a sudden after the game, I got 229 00:10:11,160 --> 00:10:13,000 Speaker 1: with this Jeff Joniac played by Play, voice of the 230 00:10:13,080 --> 00:10:17,319 Speaker 1: Chicago Bears. I have immortality type people, schefter lazer, and 231 00:10:17,360 --> 00:10:18,840 Speaker 1: all of a sudden they want the announcer on the 232 00:10:18,840 --> 00:10:21,960 Speaker 1: podcast to talk about it. A certain a certain la 233 00:10:22,080 --> 00:10:25,440 Speaker 1: Laker too, right, l a Laker who was talking about 234 00:10:25,559 --> 00:10:30,560 Speaker 1: Oh no, that was a different stop. But anyway, three 235 00:10:30,600 --> 00:10:34,520 Speaker 1: two so, but these nationals, three of them in a row, 236 00:10:34,600 --> 00:10:36,960 Speaker 1: said the same thing to me. Not about the game, 237 00:10:37,040 --> 00:10:39,719 Speaker 1: not about digs, not about the Philly game coming up. 238 00:10:40,200 --> 00:10:42,400 Speaker 2: Your analysts jumped all over your call. 239 00:10:43,160 --> 00:10:45,920 Speaker 1: And I said to all three of them, I wanted 240 00:10:45,960 --> 00:10:50,040 Speaker 1: to say, are you guys idiots? He gets to talk 241 00:10:50,120 --> 00:10:55,080 Speaker 1: to b It's raw emotion, it's organic, and I wouldn't 242 00:10:55,120 --> 00:10:57,160 Speaker 1: exchange it for anything. 243 00:10:57,600 --> 00:11:00,160 Speaker 2: I just couldn't believe people were trying to start crap you. 244 00:11:00,160 --> 00:11:03,920 Speaker 3: You cannot replicate that in any walk of life, that 245 00:11:04,240 --> 00:11:07,320 Speaker 3: moment in time when something like that happens, Yeah, that's 246 00:11:07,360 --> 00:11:11,439 Speaker 3: there for perpetuity. And we'll live on NFL films for perpetility. 247 00:11:11,640 --> 00:11:14,400 Speaker 3: And that's we are charting the history of the game. 248 00:11:14,960 --> 00:11:18,360 Speaker 3: And that involves great emotion. That's the best and you 249 00:11:18,400 --> 00:11:22,280 Speaker 3: can't make it up. And that's why this sport, especially radio, 250 00:11:23,440 --> 00:11:25,480 Speaker 3: is the reason that all comes together. 251 00:11:25,520 --> 00:11:26,000 Speaker 2: In Paris. 252 00:11:26,600 --> 00:11:29,440 Speaker 1: I'm just glad your sideline analyst is still alive. And 253 00:11:29,480 --> 00:11:31,520 Speaker 1: here's what I mean, and you're going to know exactly 254 00:11:31,559 --> 00:11:32,040 Speaker 1: what I mean. 255 00:11:32,880 --> 00:11:33,400 Speaker 2: Honestly. 256 00:11:33,640 --> 00:11:36,680 Speaker 1: One of the two hardest hits in all the games 257 00:11:36,679 --> 00:11:38,560 Speaker 1: that I've ever called in my life took place at 258 00:11:38,559 --> 00:11:44,160 Speaker 1: Soldier Field. Pete was with me right before halftime. Jason McKee. 259 00:11:44,520 --> 00:11:44,760 Speaker 6: EJ. 260 00:11:44,960 --> 00:11:47,000 Speaker 2: Henderson came explain it. 261 00:11:47,040 --> 00:11:47,280 Speaker 6: You know. 262 00:11:47,920 --> 00:11:52,120 Speaker 4: It was just an off tackle, little dive. Keeps play 263 00:11:52,200 --> 00:11:55,400 Speaker 4: the half, keep them happy, play before the half and EJ. 264 00:11:55,520 --> 00:11:56,679 Speaker 5: Henderson and it was quiet. 265 00:11:56,720 --> 00:11:58,360 Speaker 4: People were starting to move out of their seats, so 266 00:11:58,400 --> 00:11:59,800 Speaker 4: you didn't have a lot of crowd noise. 267 00:12:00,320 --> 00:12:00,760 Speaker 5: And e J. 268 00:12:00,920 --> 00:12:03,880 Speaker 4: Henderson hit him so hard. I think I think I 269 00:12:03,920 --> 00:12:07,319 Speaker 4: think he saw his entire frame. He lay prone on 270 00:12:07,360 --> 00:12:08,360 Speaker 4: the field for five minutes. 271 00:12:08,440 --> 00:12:11,240 Speaker 3: I don't recall this. Ask him and those of you 272 00:12:11,240 --> 00:12:14,240 Speaker 3: who don't know. Jason McKee and now in retirement as 273 00:12:14,280 --> 00:12:18,240 Speaker 3: an outstanding high school football coach in suburban Chicago Carmel 274 00:12:18,320 --> 00:12:18,840 Speaker 3: High School. 275 00:12:19,240 --> 00:12:20,600 Speaker 2: He is a Dave Logan. 276 00:12:20,720 --> 00:12:21,360 Speaker 3: He's a boulder. 277 00:12:21,640 --> 00:12:22,360 Speaker 5: He's a boulder. 278 00:12:22,960 --> 00:12:25,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, I got that, didn't even know I stepped in it. 279 00:12:26,400 --> 00:12:30,440 Speaker 2: That's why you do what you're doing. Get that pension, but. 280 00:12:32,040 --> 00:12:32,920 Speaker 3: Amovable object. 281 00:12:33,000 --> 00:12:34,280 Speaker 5: You don't dress like this when you're not. 282 00:12:34,920 --> 00:12:37,520 Speaker 1: You're getting tension and we're not, so stop rubbing it 283 00:12:37,559 --> 00:12:40,880 Speaker 1: in Jeff Joniac played by play voice Chicago Bears. 284 00:12:40,880 --> 00:12:43,280 Speaker 5: He earned it, he earned it. So what again? What 285 00:12:43,320 --> 00:12:45,440 Speaker 5: do you think for the list of the Bears? What? 286 00:12:45,440 --> 00:12:45,560 Speaker 6: What? 287 00:12:45,720 --> 00:12:45,840 Speaker 5: Uh? 288 00:12:46,080 --> 00:12:50,040 Speaker 3: So you know, just what's continuous? Continue the fit? Well, 289 00:12:50,240 --> 00:12:53,000 Speaker 3: I want to continue to develop and grow, Caleb Williams. 290 00:12:53,040 --> 00:12:55,240 Speaker 3: That's number one. They're they're just scratching the surface and 291 00:12:55,320 --> 00:12:58,679 Speaker 3: understanding and learning the offense and implementing. I know this 292 00:12:58,760 --> 00:13:01,839 Speaker 3: because Ben doesn't lie. He speaks the truth. And they've 293 00:13:01,920 --> 00:13:04,880 Speaker 3: just scratched the surface. So as theyre told me, think 294 00:13:04,920 --> 00:13:07,559 Speaker 3: about an iceberg, seventy five percent of it is underwater. 295 00:13:08,000 --> 00:13:10,280 Speaker 3: Pretty soon you're going to start to see that iceberg 296 00:13:10,360 --> 00:13:12,800 Speaker 3: grow vertically, and so that's big. 297 00:13:12,960 --> 00:13:13,839 Speaker 5: He's elusive, man. 298 00:13:14,400 --> 00:13:17,680 Speaker 2: Hopefully you're not the Titanic and you avoid it, right right. 299 00:13:17,760 --> 00:13:20,199 Speaker 3: That's always if anything around the around the Ben in 300 00:13:20,240 --> 00:13:25,640 Speaker 3: the NFL. But defensively, obviously, we have a lot of 301 00:13:26,240 --> 00:13:29,079 Speaker 3: needs on defense to to fill some some Uh. 302 00:13:29,360 --> 00:13:32,160 Speaker 1: You're about to have more. You're about to have more. 303 00:13:32,240 --> 00:13:35,280 Speaker 1: Caala better be ready to look off Kevin Byard as 304 00:13:35,320 --> 00:13:38,920 Speaker 1: he comes soaring up the middle between the bike defensives. 305 00:13:39,000 --> 00:13:39,920 Speaker 3: So you guys want. 306 00:13:39,760 --> 00:13:41,760 Speaker 2: Him, I can't say so controversial. 307 00:13:41,960 --> 00:13:43,440 Speaker 3: You know you're grinning from here to ear. 308 00:13:43,880 --> 00:13:45,520 Speaker 1: If I think the cat. If I was on the team, 309 00:13:45,600 --> 00:13:48,400 Speaker 1: then I'd be even more elusive. 310 00:13:48,559 --> 00:13:50,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, I have no idea. We don't have any money. 311 00:13:50,679 --> 00:13:54,760 Speaker 3: Buyered's outstanding leader and Ben Johnson put a lot of 312 00:13:54,760 --> 00:13:58,960 Speaker 3: belief and respect from Kevin Bayer the way he helped 313 00:13:59,040 --> 00:13:59,960 Speaker 3: him in that locker room. 314 00:14:00,080 --> 00:14:03,800 Speaker 1: Their coaches the bomb. He's the absolute bomb and unbelievable. 315 00:14:03,880 --> 00:14:06,160 Speaker 1: I'm so wound up right now. It started last year. 316 00:14:06,160 --> 00:14:09,360 Speaker 1: If the Vikings got bounced into the playoffs at Arizona 317 00:14:09,360 --> 00:14:12,240 Speaker 1: against the Rams and they have Tyler Higbee, okay, then 318 00:14:12,240 --> 00:14:14,920 Speaker 1: they had the something Allen they had these three tight ends, 319 00:14:14,960 --> 00:14:16,880 Speaker 1: two tight ends I've never heard of. And then I 320 00:14:16,880 --> 00:14:18,600 Speaker 1: watched the game back and I'm like, are you kidding me? 321 00:14:18,600 --> 00:14:20,240 Speaker 1: With the way they use these tight ends? And they 322 00:14:20,240 --> 00:14:23,080 Speaker 1: play a lot. So now fast forward to this year. 323 00:14:23,760 --> 00:14:26,720 Speaker 1: I remember Durham Smyth when he was with Miami and 324 00:14:26,720 --> 00:14:29,040 Speaker 1: Andrew Van Ginkel and our team played with him. So 325 00:14:29,080 --> 00:14:32,720 Speaker 1: I'm asking and Durham, he's limited, but what he does 326 00:14:32,840 --> 00:14:36,200 Speaker 1: do is important. Comet kind of does everything well. 327 00:14:36,360 --> 00:14:39,400 Speaker 2: Levelin's a star. Then you got Swift and a nung guy. 328 00:14:39,520 --> 00:14:43,120 Speaker 1: The way he manipulated those backs, the play action and 329 00:14:43,200 --> 00:14:44,320 Speaker 1: those tight ends. 330 00:14:44,320 --> 00:14:51,440 Speaker 3: Masterful, especially so because people think about movement before the 331 00:14:51,520 --> 00:14:55,360 Speaker 3: snap to impact the passing game. It really impacted the 332 00:14:55,440 --> 00:14:59,440 Speaker 3: running game. Yeah, everybody blocked the no block, no rock. 333 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:03,160 Speaker 3: It was absolute. They took it to heart. If you 334 00:15:03,280 --> 00:15:05,240 Speaker 3: aren't going to you weren't going to get the football. 335 00:15:05,520 --> 00:15:06,200 Speaker 3: The tight end. 336 00:15:06,280 --> 00:15:07,320 Speaker 5: Some of it was beautiful. 337 00:15:07,840 --> 00:15:10,560 Speaker 3: Some of the work in the red zone runs. 338 00:15:10,800 --> 00:15:13,480 Speaker 2: Were so picture perfect, of course they were. 339 00:15:13,400 --> 00:15:15,920 Speaker 3: Honestly, God, it was unbelievable. 340 00:15:16,360 --> 00:15:19,840 Speaker 1: It was young guys, the new Pacheco, Ben Johnson's the 341 00:15:19,840 --> 00:15:20,320 Speaker 1: new Bellows. 342 00:15:21,760 --> 00:15:22,440 Speaker 2: I love that. 343 00:15:22,800 --> 00:15:25,600 Speaker 3: I love mighty Manongay, you just saw him at Trade 344 00:15:25,640 --> 00:15:28,720 Speaker 3: Dita in Chicago, throwing a restaurant out there. I don't 345 00:15:28,720 --> 00:15:31,040 Speaker 3: know if you've ever taken your gallant. You'll never take 346 00:15:31,040 --> 00:15:31,320 Speaker 3: it out. 347 00:15:31,520 --> 00:15:33,000 Speaker 2: Do you still say fade to black? 348 00:15:33,800 --> 00:15:35,760 Speaker 3: We don't hear it. In some reason, it just stop 349 00:15:35,840 --> 00:15:36,760 Speaker 3: to skip me this year. 350 00:15:36,800 --> 00:15:37,160 Speaker 5: Why did it? 351 00:15:37,440 --> 00:15:40,960 Speaker 3: It's usually was It usually was on a big defensive 352 00:15:40,960 --> 00:15:43,360 Speaker 3: stop okay game, So maybe that's why, because of the 353 00:15:43,400 --> 00:15:45,760 Speaker 3: offensive was dictating that and maybe yeah, I'm not and 354 00:15:45,880 --> 00:15:48,040 Speaker 3: it's not gonna bury. I'll pull it out once in 355 00:15:48,080 --> 00:15:48,360 Speaker 3: a while. 356 00:15:48,480 --> 00:15:53,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, so, but it was Caleb Williams Iceman, Iceman comeic 357 00:15:53,360 --> 00:15:55,640 Speaker 1: first time I heard it, it bug me. But here's why. 358 00:15:55,840 --> 00:15:58,400 Speaker 1: I'm a sixty year old from Washington, DC who grew 359 00:15:58,480 --> 00:16:01,160 Speaker 1: up loving the Washington Bullets washing and yeah that's whe 360 00:16:01,160 --> 00:16:04,440 Speaker 1: I'm from and and loving the NBA. Well, for me 361 00:16:04,640 --> 00:16:09,200 Speaker 1: an old schooler, there's one ice man. It's George Garvin. However, 362 00:16:09,560 --> 00:16:13,560 Speaker 1: it's a different sport, different many decades away. The way 363 00:16:13,560 --> 00:16:16,320 Speaker 1: you were weaving in that Iceman, Iceman coming saying, here's 364 00:16:16,320 --> 00:16:17,280 Speaker 1: what it happened. 365 00:16:17,400 --> 00:16:20,800 Speaker 3: Here's a masterpiece, here's what it happened. You know, NFL 366 00:16:20,880 --> 00:16:23,200 Speaker 3: films cuts all our stuff up. You know, I find 367 00:16:23,200 --> 00:16:27,760 Speaker 3: it interesting what we say is not necessarily how we 368 00:16:27,800 --> 00:16:29,640 Speaker 3: said it when it's cut up. But have you seen 369 00:16:29,680 --> 00:16:34,360 Speaker 3: these their storage their storyboards, But they take our words 370 00:16:34,360 --> 00:16:37,960 Speaker 3: and move them around in one call, like what you said. 371 00:16:38,000 --> 00:16:38,880 Speaker 3: Maybe in the beginning. 372 00:16:38,920 --> 00:16:40,640 Speaker 2: We won nine games last year, we didn't have to 373 00:16:40,680 --> 00:16:41,120 Speaker 2: deal with that. 374 00:16:41,200 --> 00:16:44,120 Speaker 3: But anyway, so a lot of guys are miked up, 375 00:16:44,240 --> 00:16:46,680 Speaker 3: and I kept hearing guys called ice ice Ice. 376 00:16:47,680 --> 00:16:48,360 Speaker 2: That's the origin. 377 00:16:48,680 --> 00:16:51,160 Speaker 3: I said, Mike, wait, they're who they like? What's this 378 00:16:51,240 --> 00:16:53,960 Speaker 3: ice thing? Until I did some digging there. They were 379 00:16:54,040 --> 00:16:58,720 Speaker 3: already in where it was the Giants game when Caleb 380 00:16:59,000 --> 00:17:01,520 Speaker 3: sprinted around the left side and beat everybody of the 381 00:17:01,600 --> 00:17:05,720 Speaker 3: end zone. Ice ice, Ice Ice, And so I actually asked, Caleb, 382 00:17:05,880 --> 00:17:07,480 Speaker 3: you are you down with this because that's what what 383 00:17:07,520 --> 00:17:09,920 Speaker 3: I'm rolling with, and he goes, yeah. 384 00:17:09,720 --> 00:17:10,560 Speaker 2: That's so sweet. 385 00:17:11,040 --> 00:17:13,920 Speaker 1: And so it's so he knew you were calling him 386 00:17:13,920 --> 00:17:14,399 Speaker 1: the iceman. 387 00:17:14,600 --> 00:17:17,160 Speaker 3: I did, but I. 388 00:17:17,119 --> 00:17:19,159 Speaker 1: Went back and he made sure it was okay with 389 00:17:19,200 --> 00:17:21,040 Speaker 1: him because I don't want to twenty twelve, when the 390 00:17:21,520 --> 00:17:24,800 Speaker 1: Smith came into the league, I just started, like early 391 00:17:24,840 --> 00:17:26,960 Speaker 1: in the season, calling him Harry the hit Man. 392 00:17:27,280 --> 00:17:28,120 Speaker 2: Harry the hit Man. 393 00:17:28,160 --> 00:17:29,960 Speaker 1: So after a couple of games of doing it, I 394 00:17:30,000 --> 00:17:33,680 Speaker 1: went up to him and said, hey, you know, I'm calling. 395 00:17:33,400 --> 00:17:35,520 Speaker 2: You this, do you mind it? And he liked it. 396 00:17:35,560 --> 00:17:37,600 Speaker 1: Then they changed the rules and he got fined two 397 00:17:37,680 --> 00:17:39,840 Speaker 1: hundred and fifty thousand for being a hit man, and 398 00:17:39,960 --> 00:17:41,280 Speaker 1: he became Harry the pick man. 399 00:17:42,040 --> 00:17:44,280 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, So a great player. Man, 400 00:17:44,320 --> 00:17:46,720 Speaker 2: that's important to ask questions like that with these people. 401 00:17:46,720 --> 00:17:49,080 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I even go back to for some reason, 402 00:17:49,160 --> 00:17:51,720 Speaker 3: you know, in Chicago, you know, it's a it's a 403 00:17:51,720 --> 00:17:55,240 Speaker 3: one name great game. So you're you're you're Michael, Michael, Michael. 404 00:17:55,280 --> 00:17:57,879 Speaker 3: It's not it's not Michael Jordan, it's not Michael. So 405 00:17:58,119 --> 00:18:02,160 Speaker 3: I was called jaj J and there were people, there 406 00:18:02,160 --> 00:18:05,760 Speaker 3: were people criticizing me for calling Cutler. J snapped to J, 407 00:18:06,359 --> 00:18:08,560 Speaker 3: why aren't you saying Cutler he's not that he's not 408 00:18:08,600 --> 00:18:10,639 Speaker 3: at the great level yet. I mean, I really had 409 00:18:10,680 --> 00:18:15,000 Speaker 3: people pissed off about me. Immortality type stuff, one name stuff, right, 410 00:18:15,080 --> 00:18:20,000 Speaker 3: So that's pretty fun manipulating JJ to JJ, Yeah, right 411 00:18:20,080 --> 00:18:23,600 Speaker 3: right right right. But I'm I'm so I asked, hey, Caleb, 412 00:18:23,920 --> 00:18:26,080 Speaker 3: I'm gonna do you mind if I just call you Caleb. 413 00:18:26,080 --> 00:18:27,879 Speaker 3: But do you need the Caleb Williams. I mean, I 414 00:18:27,960 --> 00:18:30,280 Speaker 3: went to Mitch Trubisky. Do you want to be Mitchell Mitchell? 415 00:18:30,640 --> 00:18:33,320 Speaker 3: You know, hey, mom wants Mitchell, but I really like Mitchell. 416 00:18:33,600 --> 00:18:37,600 Speaker 3: Be careful with I also care about getting it right, 417 00:18:37,800 --> 00:18:40,560 Speaker 3: and I often don't know the pronunciations. I'll get tongue tied. 418 00:18:40,600 --> 00:18:44,159 Speaker 3: But you know, I've had several players say, you know what, 419 00:18:44,240 --> 00:18:49,159 Speaker 3: no one ever asked me Shaun Wrightshaun Wright said, no 420 00:18:49,200 --> 00:18:50,800 Speaker 3: one ever asked me, and. 421 00:18:50,760 --> 00:18:53,480 Speaker 2: So it means I didn't ask him. So you're trying 422 00:18:53,480 --> 00:18:54,200 Speaker 2: to bury me as. 423 00:18:54,160 --> 00:18:56,200 Speaker 5: What you're doing. You had a couple of. 424 00:18:56,119 --> 00:18:58,000 Speaker 2: Coffee with him. I understand that. 425 00:18:57,960 --> 00:19:00,920 Speaker 3: But I think it's important because, you know, you find 426 00:19:00,920 --> 00:19:04,959 Speaker 3: out that oftentimes they're not they're not confident enough when 427 00:19:05,000 --> 00:19:08,280 Speaker 3: they come in to say, hey, pr you guys you 428 00:19:08,400 --> 00:19:10,720 Speaker 3: got the the principal. 429 00:19:10,440 --> 00:19:11,520 Speaker 2: That happened to us this year. 430 00:19:11,880 --> 00:19:12,800 Speaker 5: No, you'll get this. 431 00:19:12,920 --> 00:19:16,040 Speaker 4: We were playing in New York and their media, you know, 432 00:19:16,080 --> 00:19:18,440 Speaker 4: the other team's media guy will come in and check 433 00:19:18,480 --> 00:19:22,119 Speaker 4: in and everyone, you guys got a good questions is 434 00:19:22,119 --> 00:19:24,760 Speaker 4: it plexico or plexico? Buris and he goes well, he 435 00:19:24,800 --> 00:19:28,000 Speaker 4: goes by both die Goes, No, you gotta pick. 436 00:19:29,440 --> 00:19:31,200 Speaker 1: So I walked out on the field and asked him. 437 00:19:31,359 --> 00:19:33,480 Speaker 1: Did the same thing with r Lacker. Got tired of 438 00:19:33,520 --> 00:19:36,199 Speaker 1: hearing people say er locker and I'm like, it's so 439 00:19:36,280 --> 00:19:39,960 Speaker 1: I walked up and asked fifty four, Hey, I do this, Arlacker, 440 00:19:40,040 --> 00:19:40,359 Speaker 1: Thank you. 441 00:19:40,440 --> 00:19:41,280 Speaker 2: That's all you got to do. 442 00:19:41,480 --> 00:19:43,439 Speaker 5: You looked up to him because the guy's a monster. 443 00:19:43,520 --> 00:19:45,879 Speaker 3: But you know how much that means to a player, 444 00:19:45,920 --> 00:19:48,040 Speaker 3: and that, yeah, I learned that. 445 00:19:48,080 --> 00:19:49,720 Speaker 1: I think that, but you gotta be careful with it 446 00:19:49,800 --> 00:19:52,520 Speaker 1: because uh, near near the end of his run with 447 00:19:52,600 --> 00:19:56,679 Speaker 1: the Vikings, x Roads. Okay, so I'm calling him Xavier 448 00:19:56,800 --> 00:19:59,919 Speaker 1: Xavier Xavier. Well, then somebody tells me his name's actually 449 00:20:00,200 --> 00:20:03,680 Speaker 1: e Xavier Roads. So they wanted to change. Well, when 450 00:20:03,720 --> 00:20:05,840 Speaker 1: we changed the to Xavier Roads, his career went in 451 00:20:05,880 --> 00:20:06,200 Speaker 1: the tank. 452 00:20:06,680 --> 00:20:09,280 Speaker 2: It's terrible. Tell him everybody's put moves on him. 453 00:20:10,119 --> 00:20:11,440 Speaker 5: Tell him about Blake Brandell. 454 00:20:11,640 --> 00:20:14,159 Speaker 1: Oh that happened last year. So we're about to get 455 00:20:14,160 --> 00:20:16,520 Speaker 1: shut out by the Seahawks. It's the night before at 456 00:20:16,520 --> 00:20:19,320 Speaker 1: the team hotel. I'm walking up to see Pete and 457 00:20:19,400 --> 00:20:23,400 Speaker 1: Jennifer and and this nice lady comes up and approaches 458 00:20:23,440 --> 00:20:25,800 Speaker 1: me and introduces herself. We listened to all the games 459 00:20:25,800 --> 00:20:29,240 Speaker 1: our family does Blake offensive lineman? 460 00:20:29,880 --> 00:20:30,800 Speaker 5: He won't. 461 00:20:30,840 --> 00:20:33,640 Speaker 1: He won't tell you this, but the last name is Brandle. 462 00:20:33,800 --> 00:20:36,800 Speaker 1: It's not Brandell. Okay, it's Brandle's. So like every time 463 00:20:36,800 --> 00:20:39,280 Speaker 1: I walk up to Blake Brandle, I go Brando Brandle, Brandle, 464 00:20:39,440 --> 00:20:42,440 Speaker 1: Brandal Brando Brandell. So well, I made it a bit, 465 00:20:42,640 --> 00:20:44,960 Speaker 1: so let's kind of break the ice. So the names 466 00:20:45,000 --> 00:20:46,840 Speaker 1: are important. Man, A couple of quickies to close? 467 00:20:47,320 --> 00:20:50,240 Speaker 5: Uh Tremaine Edmonds, what are your thoughts on him? 468 00:20:50,720 --> 00:20:50,920 Speaker 6: Well? 469 00:20:50,960 --> 00:20:53,639 Speaker 3: I enjoy this player. I think he had one of 470 00:20:53,680 --> 00:20:56,200 Speaker 3: his best seasons of his career for sure. That even 471 00:20:56,240 --> 00:20:58,760 Speaker 3: goes back to his early days with Buffalo. Still a 472 00:20:58,800 --> 00:21:00,399 Speaker 3: young player, believe it or not. He's been in the 473 00:21:00,440 --> 00:21:03,440 Speaker 3: league since twenty twenty years of age, and you always 474 00:21:03,480 --> 00:21:05,440 Speaker 3: look up and he's still not hit the thirty years 475 00:21:05,600 --> 00:21:09,640 Speaker 3: old mark. You know, a perfect fit for a guy 476 00:21:09,640 --> 00:21:11,600 Speaker 3: that's going to cloud the vision of the quarterback down 477 00:21:11,640 --> 00:21:14,560 Speaker 3: the middle of the defense. And I you know, we 478 00:21:14,680 --> 00:21:16,480 Speaker 3: got salary cap issues right now. 479 00:21:16,640 --> 00:21:18,560 Speaker 2: You guys do what are you over? I think we're 480 00:21:18,560 --> 00:21:19,160 Speaker 2: twelve over. 481 00:21:19,359 --> 00:21:20,080 Speaker 3: I think we're ten. 482 00:21:20,359 --> 00:21:22,440 Speaker 2: Okay, it's not that's not fixable. 483 00:21:22,520 --> 00:21:25,640 Speaker 3: That's not fixable. So it's a it's a waiting seething opens. 484 00:21:25,320 --> 00:21:27,639 Speaker 4: The door for like DJ Moore talk and all this 485 00:21:27,720 --> 00:21:30,680 Speaker 4: other you know, yeah, there's these guess all these topics 486 00:21:30,680 --> 00:21:34,399 Speaker 4: were hit yesterday about Chicago, Mado tremain you know, DJ Moore, 487 00:21:34,520 --> 00:21:36,480 Speaker 4: Are we going to you know, make moves for big 488 00:21:36,520 --> 00:21:38,400 Speaker 4: free agency, try to make some trades. 489 00:21:38,520 --> 00:21:41,160 Speaker 3: Tyson Beiging got more talk yesterday. 490 00:21:40,800 --> 00:21:43,280 Speaker 2: Really than anybody and talking about it. 491 00:21:43,440 --> 00:21:46,800 Speaker 3: What Tyson beagent. I don't want to lose Tyson Baging, right, 492 00:21:46,840 --> 00:21:49,400 Speaker 3: you know, I guess minds ringing ringing. 493 00:21:49,240 --> 00:21:51,040 Speaker 4: Because no one in Minnesota thought of the until you 494 00:21:51,040 --> 00:21:53,600 Speaker 4: said it. Right when we when we get them, then 495 00:21:53,600 --> 00:21:54,320 Speaker 4: we'll think. 496 00:21:54,359 --> 00:21:57,720 Speaker 3: For what you know. Uh, you know, Dennis Allen likes 497 00:21:57,720 --> 00:22:00,200 Speaker 3: a specific type of player and he wants a out 498 00:22:00,200 --> 00:22:03,320 Speaker 3: of speed on defense, and so he did a great job, 499 00:22:03,440 --> 00:22:07,600 Speaker 3: in my opinion, working with what he inherited, and uh 500 00:22:07,800 --> 00:22:10,920 Speaker 3: suffered a lot of injury on defense unfortunately, especially to 501 00:22:10,960 --> 00:22:12,360 Speaker 3: our second round pick turn. 502 00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:14,800 Speaker 4: I can understand the speed with the surface that you 503 00:22:14,880 --> 00:22:18,280 Speaker 4: have that's maintained by the city surface. 504 00:22:18,600 --> 00:22:20,680 Speaker 2: The surface socks, so every single. 505 00:22:20,680 --> 00:22:24,159 Speaker 3: Not really oh gosh, no, come on, it's it's a 506 00:22:24,280 --> 00:22:26,040 Speaker 3: title title wave difference. 507 00:22:26,440 --> 00:22:28,560 Speaker 2: It is yeah, yeah, right, it is. 508 00:22:28,880 --> 00:22:31,400 Speaker 1: Okay, this stuff depends what kind of cleat you wear 509 00:22:32,240 --> 00:22:33,800 Speaker 1: or what you're doing with the tidal wave. 510 00:22:34,080 --> 00:22:36,720 Speaker 3: You know what, nobody's complaining about it anymore. 511 00:22:37,160 --> 00:22:40,280 Speaker 5: It's a it's a spark stadium, it's a park in 512 00:22:40,320 --> 00:22:41,320 Speaker 5: the stadium. How about this. 513 00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:43,760 Speaker 1: The Vikings finished nine and eight and swept the Lions, 514 00:22:44,280 --> 00:22:47,359 Speaker 1: and we're a ninety five percent chance to sweep the 515 00:22:47,400 --> 00:22:50,240 Speaker 1: best team in the division, the Chicago Bears. Then somebody 516 00:22:50,320 --> 00:22:52,959 Speaker 1: got lost on the Duvernet kick return, black Well blocking 517 00:22:52,960 --> 00:22:53,320 Speaker 1: for him. 518 00:22:53,480 --> 00:22:54,200 Speaker 3: Wasn't that a beauty? 519 00:22:54,280 --> 00:22:54,520 Speaker 5: No? 520 00:22:54,560 --> 00:22:55,119 Speaker 2: It sucked. 521 00:22:55,119 --> 00:22:59,760 Speaker 1: It was terrible because that right there I identify, Yeah, 522 00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:02,040 Speaker 1: Josh Blackbor value was the bomb. 523 00:23:02,280 --> 00:23:03,880 Speaker 2: He was leading the way for him value. 524 00:23:03,960 --> 00:23:07,320 Speaker 1: But but it that right there in my estimation, you know, 525 00:23:07,400 --> 00:23:09,439 Speaker 1: nobody within has told me this. I thought that was 526 00:23:09,480 --> 00:23:13,440 Speaker 1: the bottom. Like it's like we're kind of seeped in. Wow, 527 00:23:13,720 --> 00:23:15,920 Speaker 1: that was that. If we had gotten that one could 528 00:23:15,920 --> 00:23:18,880 Speaker 1: have done some damage. If we get the quarterback situation right. 529 00:23:19,320 --> 00:23:21,840 Speaker 1: Du Verne burned us, Santos walked off on us. We 530 00:23:21,840 --> 00:23:25,679 Speaker 1: were a ninety five percent yours. I had you nervous, 531 00:23:25,720 --> 00:23:26,600 Speaker 1: You were dead to right. 532 00:23:26,800 --> 00:23:27,439 Speaker 3: Had me nervous? 533 00:23:27,440 --> 00:23:29,040 Speaker 2: And then we blow it on the kick return? What 534 00:23:29,080 --> 00:23:29,719 Speaker 2: had you nervous? 535 00:23:29,760 --> 00:23:34,040 Speaker 4: Like the Jordan Andison drop wide open miss McCarthy on 536 00:23:34,080 --> 00:23:34,680 Speaker 4: a seven. 537 00:23:35,840 --> 00:23:38,080 Speaker 2: Murphy jack left in the end zone. 538 00:23:37,800 --> 00:23:41,160 Speaker 3: I get too comfortable and then JJ drives him down 539 00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:41,919 Speaker 3: the quick score. 540 00:23:42,040 --> 00:23:45,280 Speaker 1: I'm in Minnesota. The places going Da da Dad McCarthy. 541 00:23:45,320 --> 00:23:47,080 Speaker 1: Fourth quarter at Soldier Field, Though. 542 00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:49,880 Speaker 3: How about the Bengals game? I Tom got super mad 543 00:23:49,920 --> 00:23:53,359 Speaker 3: at me there because really I turned, We're up, and 544 00:23:53,400 --> 00:23:55,720 Speaker 3: I feel like it's about a beer time right now? 545 00:23:55,760 --> 00:23:57,120 Speaker 2: Man and I sitting on the radio. 546 00:23:57,200 --> 00:24:03,439 Speaker 3: I did, I thought, and there's five touchdown scored in 547 00:24:03,520 --> 00:24:05,960 Speaker 3: the fourth quarter. Yeah, I'm like, wait a minute. And 548 00:24:05,960 --> 00:24:10,160 Speaker 3: then it needed the unbelievable throwing catching a two guys 549 00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:13,480 Speaker 3: missing Cooston Loveland to the end zone. That game I 550 00:24:13,560 --> 00:24:15,560 Speaker 3: never sit in my whole career. 551 00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:20,560 Speaker 1: You standardsit mostly sim question's not loaded everybody. 552 00:24:20,800 --> 00:24:23,480 Speaker 3: It's about our performance in the booth. 553 00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:25,760 Speaker 2: To get the right angle with that camera. Afore. 554 00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:29,680 Speaker 3: I'm a I'm a very active guy. I'm sore after 555 00:24:29,760 --> 00:24:31,879 Speaker 3: the game. I'm in constant motion on my hands talker 556 00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:34,600 Speaker 3: and I'm moving around, rocking back and forth. I sat 557 00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:37,600 Speaker 3: that game in Cincinnati until that calmon Ung guy run 558 00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:41,400 Speaker 3: with a scrum rugby style movement and I literally got 559 00:24:41,440 --> 00:24:45,200 Speaker 3: me out of my seat and I was animated and cold, 560 00:24:45,280 --> 00:24:48,280 Speaker 3: and it's all people are watching me and Mark Silverman 561 00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:51,560 Speaker 3: from the Espiona Chicago's He's like, oh my god, I 562 00:24:51,640 --> 00:24:54,879 Speaker 3: never saw you get So it was raw emotion to 563 00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:56,080 Speaker 3: your point, But what a game that. 564 00:24:56,200 --> 00:24:59,320 Speaker 1: Well that that's because team president Kevin Warren was looking 565 00:24:59,359 --> 00:25:00,879 Speaker 1: at you and you want to get on the pension. 566 00:25:01,119 --> 00:25:03,159 Speaker 2: No, you don't much the team boss. 567 00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:05,960 Speaker 3: That game was not on video. Oh really, because you 568 00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:08,439 Speaker 3: know I never wanted it. I never wanted it, and 569 00:25:08,520 --> 00:25:10,360 Speaker 3: I don't know when it's in er. It's not man, 570 00:25:10,359 --> 00:25:11,439 Speaker 3: it's the bears that do it. 571 00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:12,040 Speaker 5: That's the key. 572 00:25:12,080 --> 00:25:13,520 Speaker 3: But I know that people do love it. 573 00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:15,800 Speaker 2: I never look at it. We forget the cameras in there. 574 00:25:16,119 --> 00:25:18,399 Speaker 3: People love it. Yeah, of course you do. I have 575 00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:21,040 Speaker 3: no idea what I'm doing, and I also don't want 576 00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:23,560 Speaker 3: see people to see what I'm doing during the break 577 00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:26,040 Speaker 3: same because it's a lot of bad language. 578 00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:27,760 Speaker 5: At least you got a bathroom right by you. 579 00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:31,960 Speaker 3: Well if you can get in, Hey, everybody, it's a line. 580 00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:33,000 Speaker 3: If you don't get in there. 581 00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:34,879 Speaker 5: Before the line at the public restroom. 582 00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:36,439 Speaker 3: By our books, it's not ideal. 583 00:25:36,520 --> 00:25:38,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, you guys are going to be okay next year. 584 00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:42,440 Speaker 1: Despite Alamade's the key is leaving Kevin Bayern the assumption, 585 00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:44,240 Speaker 1: j Johnson, whatever, start. 586 00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:46,320 Speaker 3: Your game, but come on, let's see what happened. 587 00:25:46,359 --> 00:25:47,560 Speaker 2: You're the best. Thanks for the chat. 588 00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:48,240 Speaker 3: Thank you guys. 589 00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:51,600 Speaker 2: As always, the box. 590 00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:54,600 Speaker 1: Back after and the final combine cleanup is with big 591 00:25:54,680 --> 00:25:59,359 Speaker 1: hitter Jeremy Fowler, senior reporter for ESPN covering the NFL 592 00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:01,560 Speaker 1: from the Common Fine in Indianapolis. 593 00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:03,320 Speaker 2: So how many combines for you? 594 00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:05,560 Speaker 7: I want to say this is like fifteen or sixteen. 595 00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:08,120 Speaker 7: My first one was covering the Vikings back in twenty. 596 00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:12,480 Speaker 1: Ten, eleven, twenty ten, that Brett Favre second season. I mean, 597 00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:14,880 Speaker 1: it was memorable for many reasons. 598 00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:16,960 Speaker 2: But you've seen so much. 599 00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:21,199 Speaker 1: Over the years as a as a reporter for ESPN 600 00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:25,359 Speaker 1: or just working covering the NFL beat for ESPN. The 601 00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:27,280 Speaker 1: combine what's important to you? 602 00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:32,359 Speaker 7: Well, for me specifically, what's important is setting up meetings 603 00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:36,040 Speaker 7: with whether it's in gms or agents or people that 604 00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:38,399 Speaker 7: I need to speak with to get ready for free agency. 605 00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:40,639 Speaker 7: That's that's my main objective right now. The draft for 606 00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:43,240 Speaker 7: me is more mid March and on. But for the 607 00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:45,000 Speaker 7: first week of for Agency, I need to be buttoned up. 608 00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:47,520 Speaker 7: I need to be ready for news and breaking news. 609 00:26:47,560 --> 00:26:49,800 Speaker 7: And you know, I'm part of our Fregency show Monday 610 00:26:49,800 --> 00:26:51,280 Speaker 7: through Wednesday, which is like a live show and a 611 00:26:51,320 --> 00:26:53,919 Speaker 7: lot of bullets are flying. So really my main goal 612 00:26:53,920 --> 00:26:55,280 Speaker 7: is to get ready for that, and then if I'm 613 00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:57,040 Speaker 7: working on a story or two, I might need to 614 00:26:57,720 --> 00:27:00,000 Speaker 7: follow up with an interview or get what I need 615 00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:00,280 Speaker 7: in that. 616 00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:03,119 Speaker 2: Regard, Do you enjoy the combine? Do you enjoy that 617 00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:03,880 Speaker 2: part of the job. 618 00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:04,320 Speaker 5: Yeah, I do. 619 00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:06,480 Speaker 7: Is it's probably my favorite event on the NFL calendar. 620 00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:09,000 Speaker 7: Funny enough, you know, it's tiring, as you know, you 621 00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:11,240 Speaker 7: get a lot of steps in and you're run around, 622 00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:14,400 Speaker 7: and sometimes there's some late nights too, so you're trying 623 00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:16,080 Speaker 7: to balance all that, but you can get a lot 624 00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:18,359 Speaker 7: of work done and you can really sort of justify 625 00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:19,400 Speaker 7: your existence that way. 626 00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:22,600 Speaker 1: Jeremy, if you were to paint Free Agency coming up 627 00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:25,240 Speaker 1: soon here with a broad brush, would you say it's 628 00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:27,439 Speaker 1: good in between or not a great class? 629 00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:31,280 Speaker 7: I would say it's somewhere in between B and C 630 00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:33,920 Speaker 7: options like it's not great. It's not terrible, but it's 631 00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:36,720 Speaker 7: not very good. So the problem is, and you taught 632 00:27:36,760 --> 00:27:38,959 Speaker 7: to teams are like any players I would actually get 633 00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:41,840 Speaker 7: excited about are now getting franchise taged, like Kyle Pitts 634 00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:44,880 Speaker 7: or Breys Hall or George Pickens, like those are more 635 00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:46,639 Speaker 7: high end talents. Well is the reason why they're not 636 00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:49,400 Speaker 7: going to be available in two weeks And so then 637 00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:53,000 Speaker 7: you're kind of playing like supporting players high money and 638 00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:53,840 Speaker 7: that's the issue. 639 00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:55,280 Speaker 2: But that's the cost of doing business. 640 00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:59,399 Speaker 7: And I will say it's more exciting now because teams 641 00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:01,679 Speaker 7: are showing that you can't actually spend a ton of 642 00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:03,480 Speaker 7: money and it can help your one. Like the Patriots 643 00:28:03,560 --> 00:28:06,520 Speaker 7: last year they went eight for eight on their big signings. 644 00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:09,119 Speaker 7: You know, all those guys contributed. They spent a ton 645 00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:10,680 Speaker 7: of money and it worked out, you know. So I 646 00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:12,680 Speaker 7: think other owners are saying, hey, we can do that too. 647 00:28:13,560 --> 00:28:13,720 Speaker 6: You know. 648 00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:15,560 Speaker 7: The Vikings are in a weird predicament because they've done 649 00:28:15,560 --> 00:28:17,680 Speaker 7: some of that already and now they have a roster 650 00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:19,320 Speaker 7: with a lot of big salaries. So I don't know 651 00:28:19,320 --> 00:28:21,679 Speaker 7: how much they can spend, but they're going to have 652 00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:24,080 Speaker 7: to supplement in some spots including quarterback. 653 00:28:24,119 --> 00:28:26,520 Speaker 1: Obviously, what time I at this stage of the equation 654 00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:29,359 Speaker 1: with the Vikings free agent wide receiver jail and Naylor. 655 00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:31,760 Speaker 1: You know, o'connells put a lot of time into him, 656 00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:35,200 Speaker 1: featured him in preseason games, just really really trying to 657 00:28:35,640 --> 00:28:37,439 Speaker 1: raise him in a way where he can be a 658 00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:40,520 Speaker 1: contributor on a down by down basis. Now, this outwork 659 00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:43,480 Speaker 1: cap situation for the Vikings is what it is, and 660 00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:45,880 Speaker 1: they may not be able to retain him. What kind 661 00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:47,480 Speaker 1: of a market do you think there is for jail 662 00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:47,960 Speaker 1: and Naylor? 663 00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:48,840 Speaker 5: Pretty good? 664 00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:51,240 Speaker 7: I kind of put him in that second tiers, like 665 00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:54,280 Speaker 7: a second or third wave of free agents at that position, 666 00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:56,640 Speaker 7: because you got the top like Alec Pierce of the Colts. 667 00:28:56,680 --> 00:28:59,120 Speaker 7: Guys like that, they'll get the big money. But he's 668 00:28:59,240 --> 00:29:01,160 Speaker 7: I think Jale's going to get a sneaky good deal. 669 00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:03,160 Speaker 7: You know, he could hit double digits per year in 670 00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:05,880 Speaker 7: a contract. It wouldn't shock me. So he's gonna be 671 00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:09,120 Speaker 7: tough to retain for that reason. My question is if 672 00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:11,320 Speaker 7: you if you give him real money to keep him, 673 00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:13,240 Speaker 7: what do you do with Jordan Edison? You know, because 674 00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:16,440 Speaker 7: Justin Jefferson, I suspect is not going anywhere unless somebody 675 00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:19,160 Speaker 7: offers them. You know, King's ransom and I don't expect that. 676 00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:22,320 Speaker 7: So kN You know, what do you do with Adison 677 00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:24,200 Speaker 7: who's a year away from a new contract, but it's 678 00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:26,640 Speaker 7: at some off field issues, Like I don't know, it's 679 00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:29,240 Speaker 7: a tough equation, so you almost have to pick one, 680 00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:31,160 Speaker 7: you know, do we just roll with a US in 681 00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:33,440 Speaker 7: one more year? Let Naylor test the market, see what 682 00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:34,840 Speaker 7: he can get, and if it's too price, he will 683 00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:35,280 Speaker 7: back out. 684 00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:38,840 Speaker 1: Jeremy Fowler, senior reporter for ESPN. If you're to close 685 00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:41,160 Speaker 1: here now, you know, a decade and a half ago, 686 00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:44,920 Speaker 1: as Jeremy mentioned, he covered the Minnesota Vikings and at 687 00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:48,040 Speaker 1: that time, you know, Rob Erzensky was the capologist. In fact, 688 00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:51,200 Speaker 1: Roberzensky was just a capologist three and a half weeks ago. 689 00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:54,760 Speaker 1: Now he's the acting general manager. I know you've spoken 690 00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:57,040 Speaker 1: with him recently. What do you think about that whole situation? 691 00:29:58,360 --> 00:30:01,000 Speaker 7: You know, it's interesting, but he's somebody he's probably worn 692 00:30:01,040 --> 00:30:03,080 Speaker 7: every hat in the business behind the scenes with the 693 00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:05,360 Speaker 7: Vikings over two plus decades, you know, I mean, he's 694 00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:07,480 Speaker 7: done probably every role except for maybe more of the 695 00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:11,320 Speaker 7: front facing interview stuff that he's doing this week, but 696 00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:14,360 Speaker 7: he's equipped to handle it. I mean, he's been around 697 00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:16,760 Speaker 7: just talking to him, it's pretty obvious. You know, he 698 00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:19,360 Speaker 7: wants to get more involved in the scouting process of 699 00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:22,600 Speaker 7: just making sure everybody's aligned, making sure they're bringing out 700 00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:24,920 Speaker 7: the vision that Kevin O'Connell wants in their draft picks. 701 00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:27,200 Speaker 7: He wants to hit the draft hard. It's pretty clear 702 00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:28,960 Speaker 7: they're not going to spend huge in free agency, but 703 00:30:29,280 --> 00:30:31,520 Speaker 7: he'll supplement within you and they'll get a quarterback some 704 00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:33,880 Speaker 7: They're fully going to get a quarterback somewhere. I just 705 00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:37,280 Speaker 7: don't know which one yet. And then yeah, he knows 706 00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:38,920 Speaker 7: they have to hit the draft. They as you know, 707 00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:41,120 Speaker 7: they've had some drafts last four or five years that missed. 708 00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:43,520 Speaker 7: So I think if he can hang his hat on 709 00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:46,600 Speaker 7: a good class that helps him in that role moving forward. 710 00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:49,400 Speaker 1: Well, your your cohort, Adam Schefter, when when I believe 711 00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:52,560 Speaker 1: it was he who broke the story that March thirteenth, 712 00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:55,120 Speaker 1: first first day of the league, yere Kirk Cousins will 713 00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:58,400 Speaker 1: be cup by the Alanda Falcons. Well recently at the combine, 714 00:30:58,520 --> 00:31:03,080 Speaker 1: their general manager validated that and that's going to happen. 715 00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:05,400 Speaker 1: So like what do you think is next for Kirk. 716 00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:09,040 Speaker 7: I still think he's got a decent chance to get 717 00:31:09,040 --> 00:31:11,960 Speaker 7: a starting job. I don't know if that's guaranteed yet, 718 00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:13,800 Speaker 7: but the supply and demand is pretty good. 719 00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:14,240 Speaker 5: You know. 720 00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:18,520 Speaker 7: You got whether it's the Dolphins, the Cardinals, the Vikings 721 00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:20,200 Speaker 7: that are in a tricky spot because they kind of 722 00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:23,880 Speaker 7: have to sell competition a little bit. But knowing that 723 00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:26,240 Speaker 7: whatever veteran you sign, if you give them real money, 724 00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:29,320 Speaker 7: that means they're probably gonna start like Daniel Jones last year. 725 00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:32,880 Speaker 7: So it's tough. But then you want to get somebody 726 00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:37,240 Speaker 7: where you have wiggle room for McCarthy to potentially play too. 727 00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:37,880 Speaker 5: You know. 728 00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:40,120 Speaker 7: That's why even like a Joe Flacco comes to mind, 729 00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:43,320 Speaker 7: or somebody that's like a classic bridge. But Kirk at 730 00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:46,000 Speaker 7: this stage, I don't think he's expecting the contracts he 731 00:31:46,120 --> 00:31:48,200 Speaker 7: used to get, but you know, he's gonna want to 732 00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:51,080 Speaker 7: start somewhere, and I do think there's a chance at that. 733 00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:54,480 Speaker 7: If it's not in Minnesota, I don't know where I 734 00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:55,000 Speaker 7: could see it. 735 00:31:55,360 --> 00:31:55,520 Speaker 4: Well. 736 00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:57,760 Speaker 7: I would say Atlanta, but they're cutting him, but I 737 00:31:57,760 --> 00:31:59,840 Speaker 7: could see him maybe going back there in a world 738 00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:02,800 Speaker 7: doing a new contract with Kevin Stefanski, So he's gonna 739 00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:03,400 Speaker 7: have options. 740 00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:05,680 Speaker 1: Well, well, I mean we hear, I mean you hear 741 00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:08,480 Speaker 1: more than we hear. But Mac Jones quarterback for the 742 00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:10,880 Speaker 1: forty nine ers, that he's coveted, you know, and hey, 743 00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:12,480 Speaker 1: what would it take to get Mac? What would it 744 00:32:12,520 --> 00:32:14,960 Speaker 1: take to give Mac Jones? Do you think San Francisco 745 00:32:15,080 --> 00:32:16,880 Speaker 1: is even interested in moving him? 746 00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:20,560 Speaker 7: Well, my understanding is if it's a great draft pick 747 00:32:20,560 --> 00:32:21,880 Speaker 7: they could get for Mac Jones, I do think they 748 00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:25,080 Speaker 7: would revisit that stance. Right now. They want to keep Mac. 749 00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:27,760 Speaker 7: He was a great backup for them. Rock Perty has 750 00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:30,320 Speaker 7: had some durability issues in recent history at least, So 751 00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:34,040 Speaker 7: do you like, what's it worth to you? Is getting 752 00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:35,960 Speaker 7: rid of Mac Jones for a fourth round pick worth 753 00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:39,160 Speaker 7: it in exchange for not having a good backup? Probably not, 754 00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:41,840 Speaker 7: you know, but if it's a two, do they do that? 755 00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:43,720 Speaker 7: I think they would do that. And but that'd be 756 00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:46,680 Speaker 7: rich for mac Jones. So some do see him as 757 00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:49,640 Speaker 7: a backup despite his kind of star turn last year 758 00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:52,200 Speaker 7: with San Francisco, So you know, which is a great 759 00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:54,640 Speaker 7: offense for most any quarterback by the way, Yeah, So 760 00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:57,880 Speaker 7: I don't know he would be a good fit in Minnesota, 761 00:32:57,920 --> 00:32:59,960 Speaker 7: But I just don't know, you know, what it's worth 762 00:33:01,040 --> 00:33:02,920 Speaker 7: draftic wise, if you're given up a Day two pick 763 00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:04,800 Speaker 7: for him, it's a little rich for my taste. 764 00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:05,160 Speaker 5: Well. 765 00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:08,160 Speaker 1: And lastly, it's when you're talking about quarterbacks and veteran 766 00:33:08,240 --> 00:33:11,040 Speaker 1: quarterbacks and the Vikings and McCarthy at age twenty three 767 00:33:11,080 --> 00:33:14,680 Speaker 1: and all that add nauseum in our market. The name 768 00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:16,600 Speaker 1: here at the combine that started popping up with some 769 00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:20,680 Speaker 1: people I trust is Geno Smith, Las Vegas Raiders quarterback. 770 00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:22,480 Speaker 1: And you know, I'm not gonna pretend like I watched 771 00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:24,680 Speaker 1: a lot of Gino play with Las Vegas. He had 772 00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:27,880 Speaker 1: some wonderful moments with Seattle. But do you know what, 773 00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:29,920 Speaker 1: Geno Smith do you do you think he still has 774 00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:31,320 Speaker 1: good reps left in him? 775 00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:34,240 Speaker 7: Possibly? I do think he'll probably end up being available, 776 00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:37,440 Speaker 7: you know. I think he would like a fresh start, 777 00:33:37,560 --> 00:33:39,480 Speaker 7: knowing that they're gonna draft Mendoza and he's gonna have 778 00:33:39,520 --> 00:33:42,080 Speaker 7: to take the bullets for him in another down year. 779 00:33:42,120 --> 00:33:44,400 Speaker 7: I don't know that he's crazy about doing that. So 780 00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:47,240 Speaker 7: do they oblige and just move on before the rest 781 00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:48,360 Speaker 7: is guaranteed money is up. 782 00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:49,640 Speaker 2: It's possible, so he. 783 00:33:49,640 --> 00:33:51,400 Speaker 7: Could be a true free agent, which could make some 784 00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:53,680 Speaker 7: sense for Minnesota. I don't know if I had a 785 00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:57,160 Speaker 7: Kevin O'Connell Gino Smith Perring at this point, just synergy wise. 786 00:33:57,200 --> 00:33:58,760 Speaker 7: I wonder if some other fits would be better, but 787 00:33:59,280 --> 00:34:00,960 Speaker 7: I think he could make it work, certainly. 788 00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:04,800 Speaker 1: Let's close with Roachie Roachie the box of all boxes 789 00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:08,600 Speaker 1: ever to box now, all righty, it is the vox 790 00:34:08,680 --> 00:34:11,880 Speaker 1: of all boxes ever to vox. Allen Roach Minnesota's Allen 791 00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:15,640 Speaker 1: Roach at Mile High Roach via x and Roachie joins 792 00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:19,279 Speaker 1: us now after the the entering of boxing of a 793 00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:22,960 Speaker 1: couple of gold medal winning hockey teams. Alan, I mean 794 00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:26,600 Speaker 1: you've been next to mucho high end sporting events, super 795 00:34:26,680 --> 00:34:30,680 Speaker 1: Bowl stuff like that, Milan, I mean that that just 796 00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:35,320 Speaker 1: had to be spectacular, right, Good morning, Yeah. 797 00:34:35,120 --> 00:34:41,160 Speaker 6: Good morning Pa. Yes, the experience was amazing. It was 798 00:34:42,680 --> 00:34:46,600 Speaker 6: something I'm very proud of. And now it's something that 799 00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:48,799 Speaker 6: I'm gonna let the cat out of the bag. I've 800 00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:51,080 Speaker 6: kind of hid in a corner over the last three 801 00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:54,000 Speaker 6: days and not talk to anyone about this. I've got 802 00:34:54,040 --> 00:34:56,200 Speaker 6: a couple more radio interviews coming up. It's going to 803 00:34:56,239 --> 00:35:03,160 Speaker 6: be impossible to escape. I did not announce either gold 804 00:35:03,239 --> 00:35:07,319 Speaker 6: medal game or the women or the men because I 805 00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:12,400 Speaker 6: was sent home on Thursday prior to those games being played, 806 00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:16,919 Speaker 6: because they only kept one English announcer and it wasn't me. Well, 807 00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:21,560 Speaker 6: I mean that part is disappointing. I did watch the 808 00:35:21,600 --> 00:35:24,440 Speaker 6: men's gold medal games sitting on my couch. The women's 809 00:35:24,560 --> 00:35:27,080 Speaker 6: unfortunately happened while I was playing on a plane, and 810 00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:30,239 Speaker 6: i'll I do was read about it. But yes, that 811 00:35:30,719 --> 00:35:33,759 Speaker 6: diminished my experience a little bit. But I don't want 812 00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:36,840 Speaker 6: to sound like, you know, a crybaby or need therapy, 813 00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:39,279 Speaker 6: but yeah, it was disappointing not to do those. 814 00:35:39,480 --> 00:35:43,879 Speaker 1: Okay, John Facenda's dad, So who else do they use 815 00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:44,440 Speaker 1: beside you? 816 00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:54,319 Speaker 6: They chose to use a gentleman from Liechtenstein who announces 817 00:35:55,560 --> 00:35:57,680 Speaker 6: a hockey tournament in Switzerland every year. 818 00:35:58,080 --> 00:36:02,080 Speaker 1: Well, it's interesting you say that, because after Jack Hughes 819 00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:05,440 Speaker 1: scored the ot winner and they're like doing the anthem 820 00:36:05,560 --> 00:36:08,720 Speaker 1: and some other stuff, it wasn't you. But I thought 821 00:36:08,719 --> 00:36:11,839 Speaker 1: maybe you just took off after that, So hey, hey man, 822 00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:13,919 Speaker 1: maybe I should have looked into that a little bit. 823 00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:16,440 Speaker 2: Now, the well go ahead. 824 00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:18,719 Speaker 6: It's not that you didn't look into it, it's that 825 00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:22,720 Speaker 6: I didn't. I feel bad talking about it now, because 826 00:36:22,840 --> 00:36:25,360 Speaker 6: you know I did the sour grapes or whatever the 827 00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:29,239 Speaker 6: word is or you know, ego maniacal whatever. No, I 828 00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:31,759 Speaker 6: haven't talked about it. But yeah, now that I'm going 829 00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:35,000 Speaker 6: to start talking about my experience, there's no way around 830 00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:36,040 Speaker 6: talking about that. 831 00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:39,200 Speaker 1: Okay, well you won't say this, and sure we're friends, 832 00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:41,759 Speaker 1: but I mean, you're not doing the Super Bowl, Olympics, 833 00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:44,200 Speaker 1: ball arena and all that kind of stuff if you 834 00:36:44,280 --> 00:36:46,960 Speaker 1: are not the best in arena box of all boxes 835 00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:50,799 Speaker 1: ever to Vox period. So we'll move on anyway. So 836 00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:53,759 Speaker 1: sorry you had to go through that now. But let 837 00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:56,320 Speaker 1: me ask you this. Before the gold medal games, the 838 00:36:56,840 --> 00:36:59,960 Speaker 1: speed of the game, the men's game at ice level, 839 00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:02,840 Speaker 1: I mean, that had to be That was awesome, right. 840 00:37:04,160 --> 00:37:06,920 Speaker 6: Yeah, it's kind of ruined going back to an Avalanche 841 00:37:06,920 --> 00:37:08,720 Speaker 6: game tonight, although that one's going to be great. 842 00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:09,040 Speaker 3: Yeah. 843 00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:12,839 Speaker 6: During for the first twenty years of announcing the Avalanche, 844 00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:15,839 Speaker 6: I sat exactly where I sat at the Olympics, right 845 00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:18,960 Speaker 6: next to the timekeeper, about four feet to the left 846 00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:22,879 Speaker 6: of the red line, and got to see action on 847 00:37:22,920 --> 00:37:26,920 Speaker 6: the ice that close. For twenty years, COVID happened and 848 00:37:27,239 --> 00:37:29,759 Speaker 6: the NHL moved everybody out of the penalty boxes to 849 00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:33,319 Speaker 6: protect the players, and now we're never going to get 850 00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:37,000 Speaker 6: invited back. I now sit way up in the sixth 851 00:37:37,080 --> 00:37:40,680 Speaker 6: level in a five level building, and that's where I 852 00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:43,120 Speaker 6: call the games from. So to go back there for 853 00:37:43,239 --> 00:37:48,600 Speaker 6: a week and see games from that perspective, it's going 854 00:37:48,640 --> 00:37:50,960 Speaker 6: to be really hard to go to my perch way 855 00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:54,200 Speaker 6: up high tonight. And those last two games that I 856 00:37:54,239 --> 00:37:59,320 Speaker 6: announced were the men's quarter final games, which I guess 857 00:37:59,320 --> 00:38:03,000 Speaker 6: were USA and Canada. They didn't play each other, obviously, 858 00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:06,000 Speaker 6: I forget which teams they played. It was USA, Sweden, 859 00:38:06,080 --> 00:38:10,360 Speaker 6: I think Canada, Slovakia maybe Canada, check you. I think 860 00:38:11,560 --> 00:38:16,880 Speaker 6: those games were two of the best, fastest, hardest hitting, 861 00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:19,760 Speaker 6: most intense hockey games I've ever seen. 862 00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:24,320 Speaker 1: So at Ball Arena tonight with Wild and Avalanche on 863 00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:28,840 Speaker 1: kfam rock Nelson, like, is there a gold medal celebration tonight? 864 00:38:30,760 --> 00:38:34,200 Speaker 6: I would assume so. I thought it was interesting that 865 00:38:34,480 --> 00:38:37,480 Speaker 6: McKinnon got the day off last night but brock Nelson played. 866 00:38:37,560 --> 00:38:43,359 Speaker 6: Had not this last night? Go crazy war Road Minnesota? Right, Yeah, 867 00:38:43,400 --> 00:38:46,160 Speaker 6: I would think so. I would hope so, and I 868 00:38:46,239 --> 00:38:50,279 Speaker 6: hope that if we do announced something or if I 869 00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:55,160 Speaker 6: announced something that I get to include the grandfather and 870 00:38:55,400 --> 00:38:58,400 Speaker 6: the uncle that were part of the other two gold medals. 871 00:38:58,400 --> 00:38:59,400 Speaker 6: What a story that is? 872 00:39:00,239 --> 00:39:00,600 Speaker 5: All right? 873 00:39:00,640 --> 00:39:04,239 Speaker 1: Well, tonight for the game, I got bad news for you. 874 00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:08,360 Speaker 1: It's Gus between the pipes for us, not Vall Step. 875 00:39:08,840 --> 00:39:12,239 Speaker 1: So ABS fans can't they can't boo the guy that 876 00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:16,160 Speaker 1: everybody was loathing after that shootout victory here in Minnesota. 877 00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:22,319 Speaker 6: Well, knowing a little bit about the temperament of the 878 00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:26,520 Speaker 6: Minnesota sports fan and knowing how things have kind of 879 00:39:26,560 --> 00:39:31,000 Speaker 6: gone over the couple of weeks before the Olympics began, 880 00:39:31,160 --> 00:39:35,719 Speaker 6: and of course Gus Buss's experience at the Olympics, it's 881 00:39:35,719 --> 00:39:38,959 Speaker 6: gonna be. It's gonna be. There'll be some therapy needed 882 00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:42,719 Speaker 6: tomorrow if Gus let's in three on fourteen shots in 883 00:39:42,760 --> 00:39:43,480 Speaker 6: the first period. 884 00:39:43,960 --> 00:39:47,799 Speaker 1: Yeah, come on, Rochie mckennon's back tonight for you guys. 885 00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:48,480 Speaker 1: That's pretty cool. 886 00:39:50,040 --> 00:39:53,319 Speaker 6: Yeah. To have the you know, the some of the 887 00:39:53,320 --> 00:39:55,919 Speaker 6: best hockey players in the world that I just got 888 00:39:55,920 --> 00:39:59,080 Speaker 6: to watch, and now to come back home and see 889 00:39:59,080 --> 00:40:01,040 Speaker 6: a bunch of those guys on the team that I 890 00:40:01,080 --> 00:40:03,600 Speaker 6: announced for is is amazing. 891 00:40:03,840 --> 00:40:04,160 Speaker 3: Uh. 892 00:40:04,239 --> 00:40:06,879 Speaker 6: You know that much like the wild the Avs had 893 00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:11,440 Speaker 6: players on almost every team in the Olympics, and having 894 00:40:11,480 --> 00:40:14,480 Speaker 6: all those guys back and now kind of a refocus. 895 00:40:14,560 --> 00:40:19,399 Speaker 6: The Avalanche were falling off right before the the Olympic break. 896 00:40:19,440 --> 00:40:24,279 Speaker 6: They were looking a bit what's the word human, I 897 00:40:24,320 --> 00:40:29,319 Speaker 6: guess mortals, and so I think probably now is the 898 00:40:29,360 --> 00:40:33,759 Speaker 6: time to refocus and get back to Hey, remember in October, 899 00:40:33,800 --> 00:40:36,080 Speaker 6: November and December when we were the best team in 900 00:40:36,080 --> 00:40:39,000 Speaker 6: the league by far. We need we need to get 901 00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:39,399 Speaker 6: that back. 902 00:40:39,560 --> 00:40:42,080 Speaker 1: Love you, Bud, talk to you soon, Alan Roach Box 903 00:40:42,120 --> 00:40:44,560 Speaker 1: of all boxes ever to Vox Wild and Alf Tonight 904 00:40:44,560 --> 00:40:47,200 Speaker 1: on KFA and for Nordo, I'm Paul Allen, God bless 905 00:40:47,200 --> 00:40:47,560 Speaker 1: all of you. 906 00:40:47,600 --> 00:40:48,760 Speaker 2: Thanks for listening. 907 00:40:48,800 --> 00:40:51,600 Speaker 4: The Good News of Money podcast. 908 00:40:51,680 --> 00:40:53,040 Speaker 2: Today's Paul Allen Show. 909 00:40:53,040 --> 00:40:55,440 Speaker 3: We're listening back to your pre issue and interviews like 910 00:40:55,600 --> 00:40:58,279 Speaker 3: going to the iHeartRadio app for Kfan on