1 00:00:01,080 --> 00:00:02,640 Speaker 1: It's nice eyes with Dan Ray. 2 00:00:03,320 --> 00:00:06,040 Speaker 2: I'm telling you Boston's Meat Radio. 3 00:00:07,200 --> 00:00:08,879 Speaker 3: All right, let's get back to the calls. 4 00:00:08,920 --> 00:00:14,760 Speaker 1: We are talking about the NBA sports betting and gambling scandal, 5 00:00:14,960 --> 00:00:21,640 Speaker 1: and many of these type cases are pretty difficult to follow. 6 00:00:21,720 --> 00:00:23,520 Speaker 1: You read the indictment and you got to read it 7 00:00:23,560 --> 00:00:27,160 Speaker 1: to it. This was laid out very clearly today by 8 00:00:27,240 --> 00:00:30,960 Speaker 1: the head of the FBI and also by the US 9 00:00:31,040 --> 00:00:37,240 Speaker 1: attorney in New York. And this, this is the This 10 00:00:37,320 --> 00:00:42,320 Speaker 1: is the assistant FBI director. This US Attorney for New York, 11 00:00:42,440 --> 00:00:47,040 Speaker 1: Joseph Nocella, Junior rob Please play thirty five A for 12 00:00:47,120 --> 00:00:48,760 Speaker 1: those who are just joining us. 13 00:00:49,960 --> 00:00:52,000 Speaker 2: The off site operator. 14 00:00:53,040 --> 00:00:56,520 Speaker 4: Sent the information via cell phone back to a co 15 00:00:56,520 --> 00:01:00,680 Speaker 4: conspirator at the table, and that person at the table 16 00:01:00,760 --> 00:01:06,360 Speaker 4: was known as the quarterback. The quarterback then signaled secretly 17 00:01:06,720 --> 00:01:10,640 Speaker 4: the information he had received from others to others at 18 00:01:10,640 --> 00:01:14,520 Speaker 4: the table, and together they used that information in order 19 00:01:14,720 --> 00:01:17,600 Speaker 4: to win their games and. 20 00:01:17,800 --> 00:01:18,880 Speaker 2: To cheat the victims. 21 00:01:20,319 --> 00:01:25,560 Speaker 4: Defendants used other cheating technologies, such as poker chip tray analyzers, 22 00:01:26,120 --> 00:01:29,160 Speaker 4: which is a poker chip tray that secretly reads cards 23 00:01:30,480 --> 00:01:34,800 Speaker 4: using a hidden camera, special contact lenses or eyeglasses that 24 00:01:34,840 --> 00:01:38,720 Speaker 4: could read pre marked cards and an X ray table 25 00:01:38,920 --> 00:01:42,120 Speaker 4: that could read cards face down on the table. 26 00:01:44,040 --> 00:01:49,440 Speaker 1: Let me tell you this is how the the poker 27 00:01:49,920 --> 00:01:53,080 Speaker 1: games were rigged. So there were people who were looking 28 00:01:53,080 --> 00:01:54,720 Speaker 1: to be able to say they were in a high 29 00:01:54,760 --> 00:02:02,040 Speaker 1: stake poker game with an NBA player. I believe that, uh, 30 00:02:02,080 --> 00:02:06,440 Speaker 1: the NBA player Jones was involved in that. Uh he 31 00:02:06,560 --> 00:02:08,960 Speaker 1: was involved, I guess in both things. But Chauncey Billups 32 00:02:09,120 --> 00:02:11,800 Speaker 1: was I guess the lead in the in the in 33 00:02:11,840 --> 00:02:17,240 Speaker 1: the poker game. So basically, these wealthy individuals were Williams 34 00:02:17,240 --> 00:02:18,480 Speaker 1: being led to a slaughter. 35 00:02:18,800 --> 00:02:19,000 Speaker 3: You know. 36 00:02:19,160 --> 00:02:23,400 Speaker 1: Look, you go to anywhere a casino and you assume 37 00:02:23,960 --> 00:02:26,799 Speaker 1: the things are on the level. Obviously the house has 38 00:02:26,840 --> 00:02:29,960 Speaker 1: an advantage or they're going to go out of business. 39 00:02:30,440 --> 00:02:31,120 Speaker 3: But WHOA. 40 00:02:31,200 --> 00:02:33,280 Speaker 1: Let me go back to the calls here if you'd 41 00:02:33,320 --> 00:02:36,920 Speaker 1: like to join the conversation. I'm stunned by the the 42 00:02:37,080 --> 00:02:40,880 Speaker 1: level here. I just think it's breathtaking. And I the 43 00:02:40,919 --> 00:02:43,560 Speaker 1: only lines we have open right now were six one, seven, two, five, four, 44 00:02:43,639 --> 00:02:46,480 Speaker 1: ten thirty. Let me go to Michael. Michael, not sure 45 00:02:46,560 --> 00:02:48,720 Speaker 1: what was going on with your phone before, but hopefully 46 00:02:48,800 --> 00:02:52,920 Speaker 1: it's back in work and right ahead, Michael A right, Yeah, 47 00:02:52,960 --> 00:02:55,160 Speaker 1: you sound a little underwater. What do you want to 48 00:02:55,240 --> 00:02:56,360 Speaker 1: You want to speak a phone? 49 00:02:56,400 --> 00:03:01,600 Speaker 3: Where? What type of phone are you using? Rob? 50 00:03:01,639 --> 00:03:03,520 Speaker 1: This is this sort of thing that these guys have 51 00:03:03,600 --> 00:03:05,520 Speaker 1: to you get Look, did Rob not tell you just 52 00:03:05,560 --> 00:03:07,359 Speaker 1: put the phone up to your ear. If you're on 53 00:03:07,440 --> 00:03:11,720 Speaker 1: a speakerphone or a headset, it's difficult for us to understand. 54 00:03:11,280 --> 00:03:11,840 Speaker 3: What you're saying. 55 00:03:12,680 --> 00:03:14,600 Speaker 2: No, no, no, I was on. I had to speak 56 00:03:14,639 --> 00:03:17,239 Speaker 2: a phone on because I was jilly dally and doing something. 57 00:03:17,240 --> 00:03:19,120 Speaker 1: But I know that that's what messed you up the 58 00:03:19,120 --> 00:03:22,280 Speaker 1: first time. So what did you have on when? When 59 00:03:22,280 --> 00:03:24,240 Speaker 1: I brought you back here first up at eleven? 60 00:03:24,280 --> 00:03:26,480 Speaker 2: It was still on? It was so on until I 61 00:03:26,520 --> 00:03:26,960 Speaker 2: shut it. 62 00:03:27,320 --> 00:03:30,560 Speaker 1: But anyway, okay, next time, when Rob tells you get 63 00:03:30,600 --> 00:03:33,120 Speaker 1: off the speakerphone, please follow his instructions. 64 00:03:33,120 --> 00:03:37,160 Speaker 2: Go ahead, I will, I will. I'm not a sports guy, 65 00:03:37,760 --> 00:03:40,720 Speaker 2: but I gotta tell you this does not amaze me. 66 00:03:41,760 --> 00:03:44,200 Speaker 2: The thing that I thought you were talking about before 67 00:03:44,240 --> 00:03:47,320 Speaker 2: I heard how it all happened, by the way, I 68 00:03:47,320 --> 00:03:51,840 Speaker 2: thought was long gone. I'm glad to hear those guys 69 00:03:51,880 --> 00:03:54,360 Speaker 2: are still around to keep keep an eye on things, 70 00:03:54,400 --> 00:03:55,720 Speaker 2: but I think that they've. 71 00:03:55,520 --> 00:03:58,080 Speaker 1: Been cleaned up in some areas, but there's always another 72 00:03:58,200 --> 00:04:01,800 Speaker 1: group of people who think they can they can take over. 73 00:04:03,280 --> 00:04:03,480 Speaker 3: Yah. 74 00:04:03,760 --> 00:04:08,000 Speaker 2: Yeah. Anyway, I when gamblers started, and then they started 75 00:04:08,120 --> 00:04:10,320 Speaker 2: letting you do it online. Then you could do it 76 00:04:10,360 --> 00:04:13,640 Speaker 2: on the phone. And the really bad thing was you 77 00:04:13,640 --> 00:04:16,120 Speaker 2: could bet on college games. So I said, I said, 78 00:04:16,120 --> 00:04:18,039 Speaker 2: you know what, I'm going to watch a college game, 79 00:04:18,720 --> 00:04:20,960 Speaker 2: and I swear there were a couple of players who 80 00:04:21,000 --> 00:04:25,080 Speaker 2: would just lack a daisil during that game. I know 81 00:04:25,160 --> 00:04:28,080 Speaker 2: nothing about sports. I don't know much about sports. I'm 82 00:04:28,120 --> 00:04:28,760 Speaker 2: learning more. 83 00:04:29,480 --> 00:04:29,839 Speaker 5: I don't know. 84 00:04:29,839 --> 00:04:32,800 Speaker 1: If you're talking about a Division I college football game, 85 00:04:33,520 --> 00:04:35,880 Speaker 1: maybe someone appeared lack of days ago to you. But 86 00:04:35,960 --> 00:04:38,600 Speaker 1: those guys at Division one football they hit pretty hard, 87 00:04:38,680 --> 00:04:40,840 Speaker 1: so I would be surprised they may have been a 88 00:04:40,880 --> 00:04:43,680 Speaker 1: little slower than expected. Part of the problem is what 89 00:04:43,720 --> 00:04:46,320 Speaker 1: they call, in my opinion, the prop bets. So, for example, 90 00:04:46,360 --> 00:04:49,360 Speaker 1: you can bet on a running back in the NFL 91 00:04:49,400 --> 00:04:51,960 Speaker 1: that he's going to either make more or less than 92 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:55,200 Speaker 1: fifty yards, or quarterbacks going to throw more or less 93 00:04:55,200 --> 00:04:58,719 Speaker 1: than two hundred and fifty yards. And though and some 94 00:04:58,760 --> 00:05:01,240 Speaker 1: of the bets in the NBA, I understand that a 95 00:05:01,279 --> 00:05:04,479 Speaker 1: certain player will at least score more than more or less. 96 00:05:04,279 --> 00:05:05,159 Speaker 3: Than eight points. 97 00:05:05,760 --> 00:05:09,279 Speaker 1: And I think that's where Rogier is alleged to have 98 00:05:09,320 --> 00:05:13,480 Speaker 1: been involved, where he told some people that he was 99 00:05:13,520 --> 00:05:16,640 Speaker 1: going to pull up lame and get out after seven minutes. Well, 100 00:05:16,680 --> 00:05:19,599 Speaker 1: you can't score that many points, you know, as soon 101 00:05:19,640 --> 00:05:21,560 Speaker 1: as he pulls up lame and is out of the game, 102 00:05:22,000 --> 00:05:25,600 Speaker 1: everybody who had jumped on that less than eight points, 103 00:05:26,600 --> 00:05:28,720 Speaker 1: they're going home a winter that night. But those are 104 00:05:28,760 --> 00:05:31,000 Speaker 1: also red flags. And I think that when they went 105 00:05:31,040 --> 00:05:34,320 Speaker 1: through all the records, and they did say the FBI 106 00:05:34,560 --> 00:05:37,680 Speaker 1: and the US Attorney's Office did give credit to these 107 00:05:37,720 --> 00:05:41,600 Speaker 1: sports organizations, the sports books for whatever you want to 108 00:05:41,640 --> 00:05:44,800 Speaker 1: call them, draft kings, et cetera, were cooperative, and that 109 00:05:44,880 --> 00:05:46,200 Speaker 1: the NBA was cooperative. 110 00:05:46,279 --> 00:05:50,760 Speaker 2: So yeah, I just I mean, I've had it with 111 00:05:50,880 --> 00:05:56,400 Speaker 2: all the spalling too much. Let's go back to the fifties. 112 00:05:56,680 --> 00:06:02,840 Speaker 2: Like the girl from every. 113 00:06:00,320 --> 00:06:02,120 Speaker 3: Thanks, Michael, have a good one. Good night. 114 00:06:03,120 --> 00:06:06,440 Speaker 1: Let me go next to Alex in Millis. Alex, you're 115 00:06:06,440 --> 00:06:08,520 Speaker 1: next on night side. Won't make your way through the news. 116 00:06:08,520 --> 00:06:10,480 Speaker 1: You wait, you're waiting through the news. I won't make 117 00:06:10,520 --> 00:06:12,240 Speaker 1: your way through the commercial. 118 00:06:12,279 --> 00:06:15,320 Speaker 6: Go right ahead, Hey Dan, hell are you I'm not 119 00:06:15,600 --> 00:06:19,320 Speaker 6: a gambler. But on the other side of this, those 120 00:06:19,480 --> 00:06:23,039 Speaker 6: folks that got swindled at the casino. So this makes 121 00:06:23,080 --> 00:06:27,919 Speaker 6: me think, can they file a class action lawsuit? So 122 00:06:28,200 --> 00:06:31,640 Speaker 6: all the times that my wife and I we whoa, whoa. 123 00:06:31,520 --> 00:06:35,280 Speaker 1: Whoa hold on, I don't think there's anything suggests that 124 00:06:35,640 --> 00:06:41,080 Speaker 1: people were swindled at casinos. I think if they got swindled, 125 00:06:41,120 --> 00:06:43,360 Speaker 1: you're talking about the poker games. 126 00:06:43,360 --> 00:06:46,839 Speaker 6: Well, they had card readers, and they had I don't 127 00:06:46,839 --> 00:06:50,920 Speaker 6: know if it's blackjack, but maybe just poker. They had 128 00:06:50,960 --> 00:06:52,240 Speaker 6: the ability. 129 00:06:52,400 --> 00:06:54,440 Speaker 3: Has nothing to do with casinos. 130 00:06:54,480 --> 00:06:58,479 Speaker 1: You mentioned casinos, Alex, and I'm quick to I need 131 00:06:58,520 --> 00:07:02,600 Speaker 1: to correct you. These were high end private poker games 132 00:07:02,640 --> 00:07:06,560 Speaker 1: that took place, I guess in New York City. There 133 00:07:06,640 --> 00:07:08,760 Speaker 1: might have been one on Long Island where people were 134 00:07:08,800 --> 00:07:13,600 Speaker 1: showing up with a lot of money and they and 135 00:07:14,040 --> 00:07:18,080 Speaker 1: the inducement was you could play at the same table 136 00:07:18,360 --> 00:07:21,920 Speaker 1: with according to the allegations with Chauncy Phillips. So there 137 00:07:21,920 --> 00:07:24,000 Speaker 1: are some people who like to be able to say, oh, 138 00:07:24,080 --> 00:07:25,840 Speaker 1: last night I was playing polker or New York or 139 00:07:25,920 --> 00:07:27,760 Speaker 1: was at a game with Chauncey Phillips, and a lot of 140 00:07:27,800 --> 00:07:30,560 Speaker 1: people said, whoa you know form a Hall of Fame 141 00:07:30,600 --> 00:07:35,480 Speaker 1: basketball player, Portland Trailblazer's coach. This wasn't done at casinos 142 00:07:35,560 --> 00:07:39,679 Speaker 1: or in conjunction with casinos, but apparently they bought some 143 00:07:40,200 --> 00:07:44,320 Speaker 1: high end equipment which gave them I mean the games 144 00:07:44,320 --> 00:07:44,880 Speaker 1: were rigged. 145 00:07:44,920 --> 00:07:48,000 Speaker 3: They knew what these high end people had for hens. 146 00:07:48,800 --> 00:07:50,880 Speaker 6: Yeah, the games are rigged. So can't they come back 147 00:07:50,920 --> 00:07:56,360 Speaker 6: and say, look, I unknowingly got ripped off, and so 148 00:07:56,520 --> 00:07:58,360 Speaker 6: I'm filing a class action lawsuit. 149 00:07:59,000 --> 00:08:03,520 Speaker 1: Well, so there's nothing to do with casino. They got 150 00:08:03,600 --> 00:08:05,480 Speaker 1: ripped off by a bunch of people who are now 151 00:08:05,560 --> 00:08:10,520 Speaker 1: under indictment. They may be there may be an effort 152 00:08:11,360 --> 00:08:16,760 Speaker 1: by you know, victims programs that exist in federal offices 153 00:08:17,120 --> 00:08:21,120 Speaker 1: or into state offices where they try to recover funds 154 00:08:21,120 --> 00:08:24,800 Speaker 1: of victims who have been exploited. But these folks, you know, 155 00:08:25,280 --> 00:08:29,200 Speaker 1: they wanted to This wasn't It wasn't a scam in 156 00:08:29,240 --> 00:08:33,080 Speaker 1: the sense that someone called them on the phone and said, hey, 157 00:08:33,240 --> 00:08:37,360 Speaker 1: you know, we need money here to feed you know, 158 00:08:37,440 --> 00:08:40,800 Speaker 1: hungry children in Biafro or something like that, or in 159 00:08:40,880 --> 00:08:44,839 Speaker 1: Bangladesh or in Senegal. Uh, and found out that these 160 00:08:44,880 --> 00:08:49,040 Speaker 1: people were just taking the money. These folks wanted to 161 00:08:49,080 --> 00:08:53,480 Speaker 1: play poker with these guys, I mean and and and 162 00:08:53,679 --> 00:08:57,360 Speaker 1: these guys. If they are convicted, they're probably going to 163 00:08:57,400 --> 00:09:00,720 Speaker 1: pay substantial fines. Maybe out of that mind, they might 164 00:09:00,800 --> 00:09:04,600 Speaker 1: get some money back. But I'm not particularly feeling a 165 00:09:04,600 --> 00:09:07,560 Speaker 1: great deal of sympathy for the people who, for their. 166 00:09:07,400 --> 00:09:08,920 Speaker 3: Own ego had enough money. 167 00:09:09,080 --> 00:09:12,560 Speaker 1: You know, were they defrauded, yes, yes, but they they 168 00:09:12,920 --> 00:09:15,679 Speaker 1: were sort of liambs who took themselves to the slaughter. 169 00:09:16,320 --> 00:09:18,360 Speaker 1: They wanted to be able to say I was playing 170 00:09:18,360 --> 00:09:23,360 Speaker 1: poker last night with you know whomever. That's This is 171 00:09:23,360 --> 00:09:26,560 Speaker 1: a small group of people. There's no class action involved there. 172 00:09:26,760 --> 00:09:30,400 Speaker 1: If let's say there was a casino somewhere where they 173 00:09:30,440 --> 00:09:34,000 Speaker 1: found out that there were thousands of people who were 174 00:09:34,200 --> 00:09:36,800 Speaker 1: who were ripped off, well then you could have a 175 00:09:36,800 --> 00:09:39,679 Speaker 1: potential class action lawsuit. But this, you know who these 176 00:09:39,720 --> 00:09:42,079 Speaker 1: people are, because these are the people were playing poker 177 00:09:42,600 --> 00:09:47,440 Speaker 1: with these well known athletes. Did you listen to the 178 00:09:47,679 --> 00:09:49,920 Speaker 1: did you listen to the news reports on this tonight? 179 00:09:50,080 --> 00:09:52,480 Speaker 1: Where did you get the idea that casinos were involved? 180 00:09:53,080 --> 00:09:53,280 Speaker 7: Well? 181 00:09:53,320 --> 00:09:58,480 Speaker 6: No, The reason the reason I thought that it was 182 00:09:58,960 --> 00:10:03,000 Speaker 6: when they said on the second part that they used uh, 183 00:10:03,200 --> 00:10:08,480 Speaker 6: you know, high tech. UH means our devices to read, 184 00:10:08,640 --> 00:10:12,640 Speaker 6: uh read the cards. So so I'm assuming you know 185 00:10:12,840 --> 00:10:15,400 Speaker 6: this had to do maybe uh, I don't know where 186 00:10:15,440 --> 00:10:16,160 Speaker 6: this took place. 187 00:10:16,320 --> 00:10:19,120 Speaker 1: That was an assumption that was wrong, Alex. So thank 188 00:10:19,160 --> 00:10:22,079 Speaker 1: you for clarifying that. I appreciate it. I got to 189 00:10:22,160 --> 00:10:24,640 Speaker 1: keep rolling here, buddy, talk to you. So thanks great 190 00:10:24,720 --> 00:10:27,480 Speaker 1: night six one seven, two, five, four ten thirty six 191 00:10:27,559 --> 00:10:30,360 Speaker 1: one seven, nine three one ten thirty. Got to take 192 00:10:30,400 --> 00:10:32,360 Speaker 1: This is a very quick commercial break. You want to 193 00:10:32,360 --> 00:10:34,960 Speaker 1: get in right now. Six one seven, two five four 194 00:10:35,000 --> 00:10:38,160 Speaker 1: ten thirty six one seven, nine three one ten thirty. 195 00:10:38,200 --> 00:10:40,360 Speaker 1: Got a couple of open lines. Feel free coming back 196 00:10:40,400 --> 00:10:41,120 Speaker 1: on night Side. 197 00:10:42,280 --> 00:10:46,280 Speaker 2: It's Night Side with Dan Ray on w BAS Boston's 198 00:10:46,320 --> 00:10:46,960 Speaker 2: news radio. 199 00:10:47,480 --> 00:10:50,800 Speaker 1: Next up, we're going down in in San Antonio, Texas 200 00:10:50,920 --> 00:10:53,320 Speaker 1: in this is a huge story. 201 00:10:53,400 --> 00:10:54,559 Speaker 3: What's your thoughts on this? 202 00:10:56,240 --> 00:11:01,600 Speaker 7: Well, my question is, first of all, it is very sad. 203 00:11:02,640 --> 00:11:09,080 Speaker 7: Corruption is never okay. But my question is, and that 204 00:11:09,240 --> 00:11:11,240 Speaker 7: might be kind of a dumb question. And I know 205 00:11:11,440 --> 00:11:13,560 Speaker 7: part of it is money, of course, but I think 206 00:11:13,600 --> 00:11:17,400 Speaker 7: a lot of it must be greed. Lakos and ostra. 207 00:11:18,720 --> 00:11:25,080 Speaker 7: Why would they choose still choose an illegal gambling ruse 208 00:11:26,040 --> 00:11:29,720 Speaker 7: rather than fan dual a fan dual type company or 209 00:11:30,240 --> 00:11:33,120 Speaker 7: draftings where they are legal. 210 00:11:33,640 --> 00:11:35,840 Speaker 1: Well, they did both. The money they were they were 211 00:11:35,840 --> 00:11:40,560 Speaker 1: involved in both. So here's how it worked. Okay, again 212 00:11:40,640 --> 00:11:44,520 Speaker 1: according to the allegations, and it's important that we always 213 00:11:44,720 --> 00:11:46,199 Speaker 1: you know, say this is an allegation. 214 00:11:46,360 --> 00:11:47,760 Speaker 3: So there's people have. 215 00:11:47,679 --> 00:11:51,640 Speaker 1: A presumption of innocence that they claim that one of 216 00:11:51,679 --> 00:11:56,680 Speaker 1: the players and maybe two of the players were able 217 00:11:56,840 --> 00:12:01,520 Speaker 1: to communicate with friends before a game. 218 00:12:02,960 --> 00:12:07,080 Speaker 3: Sometime that day that they didn't feel. 219 00:12:06,800 --> 00:12:12,439 Speaker 1: Good and instead of playing the full game they were 220 00:12:12,480 --> 00:12:17,240 Speaker 1: going to have fake in injury or or you. 221 00:12:17,200 --> 00:12:20,040 Speaker 3: Know, claim that their ankle was sore and they would 222 00:12:20,040 --> 00:12:23,600 Speaker 3: get out at seven. Now it's the seven minute mark. 223 00:12:23,720 --> 00:12:28,960 Speaker 1: Okay, specifically, So what you have with DraftKings and fan 224 00:12:29,040 --> 00:12:31,360 Speaker 1: duel and on this, you have what's called prop bets. 225 00:12:31,960 --> 00:12:36,120 Speaker 1: So you can bet on what if a team's gonna win, 226 00:12:36,200 --> 00:12:39,319 Speaker 1: whether or not the San Antonio Spurs are playing the Mavericks, 227 00:12:39,320 --> 00:12:43,120 Speaker 1: who's gonna win, and then the points spread and all 228 00:12:43,160 --> 00:12:47,040 Speaker 1: of that. But they also can say, okay, you can 229 00:12:47,080 --> 00:12:50,920 Speaker 1: bet will this player score more or less than ten points? 230 00:12:50,960 --> 00:12:54,679 Speaker 1: Will this player get more or less than five assists. 231 00:12:55,920 --> 00:12:58,640 Speaker 1: That's what's called prop It's a proposition bet on an 232 00:12:58,720 --> 00:13:02,280 Speaker 1: individual player as a to the team, and apparently there 233 00:13:02,360 --> 00:13:05,959 Speaker 1: was some heavy bets that came into in one game 234 00:13:07,200 --> 00:13:13,679 Speaker 1: on this player underperforming. And now they're alleging that the 235 00:13:13,720 --> 00:13:18,560 Speaker 1: player intentionally left the game faithed an injury so that 236 00:13:18,640 --> 00:13:22,640 Speaker 1: his friends could bet with that prior knowledge that he 237 00:13:22,679 --> 00:13:25,319 Speaker 1: would not score enough points, he would not. 238 00:13:25,360 --> 00:13:27,920 Speaker 3: Get enough asists. That's as I understand it. 239 00:13:27,960 --> 00:13:31,959 Speaker 7: Okay, right, Okay, I understand that, and I understand that 240 00:13:32,080 --> 00:13:32,679 Speaker 7: the gambling. 241 00:13:33,240 --> 00:13:36,720 Speaker 1: The gambling is a different situation. That they had private 242 00:13:36,840 --> 00:13:41,560 Speaker 1: poker games, high end poker games. They had equipment set 243 00:13:41,640 --> 00:13:44,880 Speaker 1: up in these poker games so that the rich people, 244 00:13:44,960 --> 00:13:47,760 Speaker 1: the wealthy men who wanted to go be able to 245 00:13:47,800 --> 00:13:51,000 Speaker 1: say they had played poker the night before with this 246 00:13:51,520 --> 00:13:56,719 Speaker 1: NBA player or that NBA player. Right, they were they 247 00:13:56,760 --> 00:14:00,200 Speaker 1: were they were cheap either, well, they weren't cheap being 248 00:14:00,320 --> 00:14:03,320 Speaker 1: led to the slaughter They were sheep that wanted to 249 00:14:03,360 --> 00:14:06,240 Speaker 1: go to the slaughterhouse. They didn't know what was in 250 00:14:06,320 --> 00:14:09,760 Speaker 1: store for them. So it's kind of two separate And 251 00:14:09,880 --> 00:14:17,640 Speaker 1: the private high end poker games were apparently coordinated with, 252 00:14:18,440 --> 00:14:24,560 Speaker 1: according to the indictments, Leakosa Nostra organized crime. And so 253 00:14:25,400 --> 00:14:28,160 Speaker 1: you know this thing. The more they investigate, they may 254 00:14:28,200 --> 00:14:29,560 Speaker 1: find more and more and more here. 255 00:14:29,640 --> 00:14:30,880 Speaker 3: And to be really honest with. 256 00:14:30,880 --> 00:14:34,320 Speaker 1: You, but it's not looking pretty at this point, I 257 00:14:34,360 --> 00:14:37,360 Speaker 1: guess would be the way to describe it. 258 00:14:37,440 --> 00:14:40,080 Speaker 3: So and it hasn't been. 259 00:14:40,360 --> 00:14:43,560 Speaker 1: This is We've had betting scandals before, you know, in 260 00:14:43,640 --> 00:14:46,400 Speaker 1: the NFL there was Paul Horning and Alex Carris who 261 00:14:46,480 --> 00:14:49,760 Speaker 1: were accused of some point shaving. There have been college 262 00:14:49,800 --> 00:14:53,160 Speaker 1: point shavings, the Black Sox scandals, but all of those 263 00:14:53,240 --> 00:14:57,520 Speaker 1: were they were small money. Pete Rose, who supposedly is 264 00:14:57,560 --> 00:15:00,560 Speaker 1: a baseball manager, better on his team to win, but 265 00:15:00,600 --> 00:15:03,200 Speaker 1: that was illegal because you're not supposed to bet either 266 00:15:03,240 --> 00:15:07,520 Speaker 1: on your team to win or lose. But this is, 267 00:15:07,800 --> 00:15:12,600 Speaker 1: this is a humongous, if true, is a humongous operation 268 00:15:12,840 --> 00:15:18,320 Speaker 1: which was involved tens of millions of dollars. 269 00:15:19,120 --> 00:15:23,680 Speaker 7: Right. But what my question was was, like Cozenostra in particular, 270 00:15:24,200 --> 00:15:29,040 Speaker 7: why would they still choose illegal gambling when there's legal 271 00:15:29,120 --> 00:15:31,840 Speaker 7: gambling that makes a lot of money. 272 00:15:32,440 --> 00:15:33,000 Speaker 2: You know, just. 273 00:15:34,640 --> 00:15:37,720 Speaker 1: Because the and I think that's a good question because 274 00:15:37,840 --> 00:15:42,600 Speaker 1: these high end poker games. Okay, you could have a 275 00:15:42,640 --> 00:15:46,560 Speaker 1: high end poker game if you and I and some 276 00:15:46,640 --> 00:15:49,200 Speaker 1: friends want to have a poker game and the minimum 277 00:15:49,240 --> 00:15:51,800 Speaker 1: to get in is twenty bucks or one hundred bucks, 278 00:15:51,960 --> 00:15:54,720 Speaker 1: you can do that. But if you're running a high 279 00:15:54,800 --> 00:15:58,320 Speaker 1: end poker game and you're inducing people to join the game, 280 00:15:58,840 --> 00:16:02,720 Speaker 1: and somehow someone you're the dealer, and you're you're able 281 00:16:02,760 --> 00:16:06,080 Speaker 1: to tell what cards I have and what cards the 282 00:16:06,120 --> 00:16:09,760 Speaker 1: other guy has, and so if you're sitting there, uh, 283 00:16:09,800 --> 00:16:13,120 Speaker 1: and you're supposedly the dealer. I'm just using an example, 284 00:16:13,360 --> 00:16:16,280 Speaker 1: and every time I have a good hand, you kind 285 00:16:16,280 --> 00:16:18,400 Speaker 1: of look at me and give me a hand signal, 286 00:16:18,520 --> 00:16:20,760 Speaker 1: so you know that I know I have the hand 287 00:16:20,760 --> 00:16:24,840 Speaker 1: to beat this guy. I'll keep raising and get more money. If, 288 00:16:24,880 --> 00:16:27,240 Speaker 1: on the other hand, you tell me that he has 289 00:16:27,280 --> 00:16:29,520 Speaker 1: a better hand or what that person at the table, 290 00:16:30,600 --> 00:16:35,120 Speaker 1: I'll fold early. So the advantage then it becomes unfear 291 00:16:35,200 --> 00:16:38,040 Speaker 1: for me because part of poker is you don't know 292 00:16:38,120 --> 00:16:38,480 Speaker 1: what the. 293 00:16:38,440 --> 00:16:40,960 Speaker 3: Other guy has. You know what you have in your question. 294 00:16:41,320 --> 00:16:44,160 Speaker 1: So yeah, but that's that's taken into the nth degree 295 00:16:44,200 --> 00:16:49,200 Speaker 1: because they they apparently had uh, you know, communication signals. 296 00:16:49,240 --> 00:16:50,520 Speaker 3: I mean they were defaunt. 297 00:16:50,760 --> 00:16:56,480 Speaker 7: I want to know because poker faces or you know, that's. 298 00:16:56,360 --> 00:16:58,000 Speaker 3: Part of the game, that's part of the game. 299 00:16:58,080 --> 00:17:01,080 Speaker 1: No, this was much more than This was an organized 300 00:17:01,480 --> 00:17:05,080 Speaker 1: criminal enterprise with a basic It would be like if 301 00:17:05,200 --> 00:17:09,600 Speaker 1: if someone in organized crime went to someone and said, look, 302 00:17:10,480 --> 00:17:14,280 Speaker 1: we need a million dollars because that million dollars we're 303 00:17:14,280 --> 00:17:17,600 Speaker 1: going to send to the poor people in wherever, and 304 00:17:17,640 --> 00:17:20,080 Speaker 1: they took that money and they never sent a cent 305 00:17:20,160 --> 00:17:22,280 Speaker 1: to the poor people. They put it in their own 306 00:17:22,320 --> 00:17:25,320 Speaker 1: pockets and they bought you know, a condominium and an 307 00:17:25,359 --> 00:17:26,800 Speaker 1: airplane and a boat or whatever. 308 00:17:27,359 --> 00:17:28,040 Speaker 3: That's fraud. 309 00:17:28,119 --> 00:17:31,359 Speaker 1: This is what, in effect they're dealing with here in 310 00:17:31,440 --> 00:17:34,280 Speaker 1: terms of the poker game fraud. So I've explained it 311 00:17:34,320 --> 00:17:36,960 Speaker 1: as best I can in but I think if you 312 00:17:37,080 --> 00:17:40,520 Speaker 1: read the newspaper tomorrow that you'll it'll fill in the 313 00:17:40,520 --> 00:17:41,159 Speaker 1: blanks for you. 314 00:17:41,200 --> 00:17:43,959 Speaker 7: Okay, you've done great, and I appreciate it. 315 00:17:44,000 --> 00:17:44,480 Speaker 3: Thanks, Ianne. 316 00:17:44,480 --> 00:17:48,080 Speaker 1: I appreciate the opportunity. All right, let's keep rolling here. 317 00:17:48,240 --> 00:17:50,520 Speaker 1: I'm going to go to fill in Boston. 318 00:17:50,680 --> 00:17:50,920 Speaker 3: Phil. 319 00:17:50,960 --> 00:17:52,360 Speaker 1: I'm going to get you in here before the break 320 00:17:52,359 --> 00:17:54,000 Speaker 1: of the bottom of they are go right ahead, Phil. 321 00:17:54,240 --> 00:18:00,840 Speaker 5: Going you know. Yeah, So the bottom line is, I'm sorry, 322 00:18:00,840 --> 00:18:03,680 Speaker 5: I had a thought. I thought. I can't think of it. 323 00:18:03,800 --> 00:18:08,040 Speaker 5: The gambling I vils, they're just so vicious these people. 324 00:18:08,560 --> 00:18:11,360 Speaker 5: Not long do they cheat these people out of their 325 00:18:11,600 --> 00:18:13,760 Speaker 5: money to send out a bunch of people they don't 326 00:18:13,840 --> 00:18:17,000 Speaker 5: know with cigars and the kangnac putting on the bull 327 00:18:17,560 --> 00:18:24,520 Speaker 5: bullet whatever act. I mean, they had, Yeah, tough guys 328 00:18:24,520 --> 00:18:26,400 Speaker 5: to go out and collect the money they owed them. 329 00:18:26,520 --> 00:18:30,080 Speaker 1: They probably no, Yeah, that was that was part of 330 00:18:30,080 --> 00:18:32,520 Speaker 1: the role of organized crime as well. 331 00:18:32,880 --> 00:18:34,399 Speaker 3: It wasn't, It wasn't. 332 00:18:34,680 --> 00:18:37,600 Speaker 1: There's no I don't think there's any allegations that Chauncey 333 00:18:37,640 --> 00:18:40,080 Speaker 1: Billups was going up to someone's door late at night. 334 00:18:40,240 --> 00:18:44,680 Speaker 1: But again, all of the allegations here against everybody whose 335 00:18:44,760 --> 00:18:48,720 Speaker 1: name has been mentioned today, they still are presumed innocent 336 00:18:49,320 --> 00:18:51,440 Speaker 1: until the facts of the case. And these are high 337 00:18:51,560 --> 00:18:55,560 Speaker 1: end public public figures, they're not public officials public figures. 338 00:18:55,760 --> 00:18:58,680 Speaker 1: I want to make sure everybody understands that. 339 00:18:58,960 --> 00:19:03,760 Speaker 5: And I still the track IM better on the No 340 00:19:03,880 --> 00:19:06,439 Speaker 5: one with a dog tracks like a highlight with whitey 341 00:19:06,480 --> 00:19:09,440 Speaker 5: balls is heavy. Were your golf with your wonder with 342 00:19:09,600 --> 00:19:11,920 Speaker 5: ex colna there, I mean, it's crazy. 343 00:19:12,560 --> 00:19:16,439 Speaker 1: Well, there's a lot of dishonest people, Phil, you know, 344 00:19:17,520 --> 00:19:19,920 Speaker 1: and you've got to be careful who you deal with. 345 00:19:19,960 --> 00:19:22,679 Speaker 1: And the advice that your mother gave you when you 346 00:19:22,720 --> 00:19:25,320 Speaker 1: were younger, which was if something seems true, good to 347 00:19:25,400 --> 00:19:28,040 Speaker 1: be true, it probably is. So if all of a 348 00:19:28,080 --> 00:19:32,000 Speaker 1: sudden someone knew that there was a guy that liked hide, 349 00:19:32,080 --> 00:19:34,800 Speaker 1: there were people who were wealthy who loved the thrill. 350 00:19:34,960 --> 00:19:38,959 Speaker 1: I'm told there's a professional golfer who likes to do 351 00:19:40,119 --> 00:19:43,439 Speaker 1: high you know, high end poker games, not you know 352 00:19:43,440 --> 00:19:46,080 Speaker 1: where it's you know, two bucks to get in. No, 353 00:19:46,400 --> 00:19:49,359 Speaker 1: you're talking like thirty forty thousand dollars a he in. 354 00:19:49,640 --> 00:19:53,720 Speaker 1: I mean there are people like that. I don't know anybody, 355 00:19:53,720 --> 00:19:58,040 Speaker 1: but personally expect that. I'm sure you don't either. Yeah, 356 00:19:58,119 --> 00:19:58,560 Speaker 1: oh yeah. 357 00:19:58,920 --> 00:20:00,560 Speaker 3: On the golf course too. We have a lot of 358 00:20:00,560 --> 00:20:02,320 Speaker 3: that stuff. People are they. 359 00:20:03,200 --> 00:20:06,800 Speaker 1: I'm told there are some pro basketball players, a full 360 00:20:06,800 --> 00:20:10,560 Speaker 1: football pro basketball players who do a lot of gambling. 361 00:20:10,760 --> 00:20:14,280 Speaker 1: But again they're doing gambling at casinos, and it's maybe 362 00:20:14,359 --> 00:20:17,400 Speaker 1: bad judgment and they lose money, but that's a casino 363 00:20:17,560 --> 00:20:20,080 Speaker 1: that is regulated and therefore it's above board. 364 00:20:20,400 --> 00:20:23,800 Speaker 3: And what the What the officials today said was that. 365 00:20:24,480 --> 00:20:30,720 Speaker 1: The NBA and the betting organization's Draft kings and the 366 00:20:31,680 --> 00:20:35,080 Speaker 1: sports books cooperated because obviously they had to open up 367 00:20:35,480 --> 00:20:39,200 Speaker 1: their records to get a lot of the evidence which 368 00:20:39,320 --> 00:20:43,639 Speaker 1: led led to the the charges against these individuals. 369 00:20:43,680 --> 00:20:47,520 Speaker 5: Today, they found the fantastic guys to create a table 370 00:20:48,080 --> 00:20:51,640 Speaker 5: which has actual visions unboth out of a Spencer trade 371 00:20:51,760 --> 00:20:54,720 Speaker 5: is unbelievable. I mean, it's kind of it. 372 00:20:54,840 --> 00:20:57,680 Speaker 1: It's not James Bond. Well, I won't date it with 373 00:20:57,760 --> 00:20:59,879 Speaker 1: Spencer Tracy, but yeah, it's it's stuff. 374 00:21:01,920 --> 00:21:05,760 Speaker 5: Good combination of different groups of the bad guys different countries, 375 00:21:06,480 --> 00:21:08,480 Speaker 5: all had to sit in skills a butter's with a 376 00:21:08,560 --> 00:21:12,040 Speaker 5: muscle of brains, the skills to get to get these things. 377 00:21:12,600 --> 00:21:14,560 Speaker 1: Well, again, there's a lot of people out there who 378 00:21:14,640 --> 00:21:18,000 Speaker 1: they think they're good poker players or whatever. There are 379 00:21:18,080 --> 00:21:21,720 Speaker 1: people thought they were good investors. And the guy that 380 00:21:21,880 --> 00:21:26,080 Speaker 1: was running the high end scam out of New York 381 00:21:26,160 --> 00:21:29,280 Speaker 1: and Florida, there were people who were paying money just 382 00:21:29,359 --> 00:21:31,680 Speaker 1: to have access to him, and they were investing the 383 00:21:31,800 --> 00:21:33,840 Speaker 1: money and they were investing in a Ponzi scheme. 384 00:21:34,600 --> 00:21:39,680 Speaker 5: It's like I normally they pick all the fancy areas Hampton. 385 00:21:40,400 --> 00:21:43,520 Speaker 3: Well you got it. Look what was it? 386 00:21:43,640 --> 00:21:45,480 Speaker 1: Willie Sutton when they said you know, why do you 387 00:21:45,640 --> 00:21:48,440 Speaker 1: rob banks? And he said rob banks? Is that's where 388 00:21:48,440 --> 00:21:52,119 Speaker 1: they keep the money. You know, why do they go 389 00:21:52,240 --> 00:21:54,680 Speaker 1: after wealthy people, because you know, you go after some 390 00:21:54,840 --> 00:21:58,600 Speaker 1: blue collar guy that he might say five dollars minimum 391 00:21:58,680 --> 00:21:59,080 Speaker 1: per hand. 392 00:21:59,119 --> 00:21:59,840 Speaker 3: What are your nuts? 393 00:22:02,200 --> 00:22:06,639 Speaker 1: I that's your right man? Talk soon, all right. I 394 00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:08,800 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, the lines have slowed up a 395 00:22:08,840 --> 00:22:11,840 Speaker 1: little bit. I want to know what you think, bottom 396 00:22:11,880 --> 00:22:18,640 Speaker 1: line is this? Does this change your view towards professional sports? Look, 397 00:22:18,840 --> 00:22:22,320 Speaker 1: we all know that going to a sporting event, whether 398 00:22:22,400 --> 00:22:29,159 Speaker 1: it's pro baseball, pro football, pro look hockey, it's got expensive. 399 00:22:29,400 --> 00:22:32,879 Speaker 1: It's got expensive, particularly if you have kids, it's not 400 00:22:33,119 --> 00:22:34,800 Speaker 1: like what it was when you and I were growing up. 401 00:22:35,119 --> 00:22:38,840 Speaker 1: Does this turn you off to because this will have 402 00:22:38,960 --> 00:22:42,280 Speaker 1: a splash over effect not only on basketball, but on 403 00:22:42,400 --> 00:22:45,040 Speaker 1: any of the professional sports. Look, I know what the 404 00:22:45,119 --> 00:22:47,720 Speaker 1: ticket prices are at the best seats at the Celtics 405 00:22:47,920 --> 00:22:51,240 Speaker 1: and the Bruins and the Red Sox and the Patriots. 406 00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:54,000 Speaker 1: It's just the way of the world. It's as simple 407 00:22:54,040 --> 00:22:56,960 Speaker 1: as that. And most people would say, well, I know 408 00:22:57,119 --> 00:22:59,080 Speaker 1: the things on the level, it's a great event, it's 409 00:22:59,119 --> 00:23:01,640 Speaker 1: a great experience. I'll take the kids or I'll take 410 00:23:01,640 --> 00:23:04,520 Speaker 1: the family. I don't know that maybe this is not 411 00:23:04,640 --> 00:23:07,720 Speaker 1: going to have an impact. As I said, the NBA 412 00:23:07,920 --> 00:23:12,520 Speaker 1: just signed a seventy six billion that's an eleven year deal, 413 00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:15,360 Speaker 1: almost seven billion dollars a year. 414 00:23:16,680 --> 00:23:18,119 Speaker 3: That's a lot of money. 415 00:23:18,600 --> 00:23:21,160 Speaker 1: And those players in all the pro sports are making 416 00:23:21,320 --> 00:23:24,440 Speaker 1: much more different levels. Hockey players don't make as much 417 00:23:24,480 --> 00:23:30,320 Speaker 1: as basketball players. Baseball players have better contract deals than 418 00:23:30,359 --> 00:23:35,639 Speaker 1: football players. It's kind of complicated, but I'm familiar with it. However, 419 00:23:35,760 --> 00:23:38,920 Speaker 1: they're all doing very well. They're all doing very well, 420 00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:41,520 Speaker 1: and yet some of them apparently felt they had to 421 00:23:42,119 --> 00:23:46,080 Speaker 1: get a side hustle, and unfortunately the side hustle allegedly 422 00:23:46,359 --> 00:23:49,560 Speaker 1: is illegal. Six one, seven, two, five, four ten thirty 423 00:23:49,600 --> 00:23:52,159 Speaker 1: six one seven, nine three one ten thirty. Does this 424 00:23:52,480 --> 00:23:56,440 Speaker 1: change your attitude towards professional sports? This is as big 425 00:23:56,640 --> 00:24:01,760 Speaker 1: a scandal that I think any sport has faced. And 426 00:24:01,960 --> 00:24:04,640 Speaker 1: Dan Shaughnessy in the last hour agreed with me. We're 427 00:24:04,680 --> 00:24:06,880 Speaker 1: coming right back on the night Side. We have open lines. 428 00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:07,960 Speaker 1: Join the visition. 429 00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:15,760 Speaker 2: Night Side with Dan Ray on WBZ, Boston's news radio. 430 00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:20,800 Speaker 1: We're talking about a huge story and it broke today 431 00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:23,440 Speaker 1: and perhaps some of you have not had a chance 432 00:24:23,560 --> 00:24:29,159 Speaker 1: to digest this, but I am interested for those of 433 00:24:29,280 --> 00:24:33,400 Speaker 1: you who know the story. Does this change your opinion 434 00:24:33,960 --> 00:24:36,520 Speaker 1: towards going to see a Red Sox game, or a 435 00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:39,160 Speaker 1: Bruins game, or a Celtics game or a Patriots game. 436 00:24:39,960 --> 00:24:48,520 Speaker 1: It's increasingly more expensive, obviously. But this is a huge scandal, okay, 437 00:24:48,760 --> 00:24:52,680 Speaker 1: assuming the allegations are true, simple as that, and I 438 00:24:52,880 --> 00:24:58,160 Speaker 1: just for the purpose of I think it was Ian 439 00:24:58,800 --> 00:25:01,600 Speaker 1: in San Antonio. Before I get back to my calls, 440 00:25:01,600 --> 00:25:04,040 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go Tina and Debbie, you will be next. 441 00:25:04,080 --> 00:25:06,840 Speaker 1: I do have a couple of lines still open six one, seven, two, five, 442 00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:09,960 Speaker 1: four ten thirty six one seven, nine, three, one ten thirty. 443 00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:12,639 Speaker 1: This is Joseph Nosella. He's the US attorney in New 444 00:25:12,720 --> 00:25:17,760 Speaker 1: York talking about the sophistication of this. Now is the 445 00:25:19,240 --> 00:25:23,879 Speaker 1: poker high end poker games where uh, this is not 446 00:25:24,080 --> 00:25:27,399 Speaker 1: sports betting. This is basically individuals who paid a lot 447 00:25:27,440 --> 00:25:30,480 Speaker 1: of money to play poker, but they didn't realize that 448 00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:31,800 Speaker 1: the games were rigged. 449 00:25:32,119 --> 00:25:33,520 Speaker 3: This is cut thirty five. 450 00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:39,480 Speaker 4: Rob The defendants used a variety of very sophisticated cheating technologies, 451 00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:44,160 Speaker 4: some of which were provided by other defendants in exchange 452 00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:48,040 Speaker 4: for a share of the profits from the scheme. For example, 453 00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:52,959 Speaker 4: they used off the shelf shuffling machines that had been 454 00:25:53,080 --> 00:25:57,040 Speaker 4: secretly altered in order to read the cards in the deck, 455 00:25:57,640 --> 00:26:00,840 Speaker 4: predict which player at the table had the best poker hand, 456 00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:04,680 Speaker 4: and relay that information to an off site operator. 457 00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:10,400 Speaker 1: Then apparently the off site operator was able to communicate 458 00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:14,560 Speaker 1: with one of the people at the table. I guess 459 00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:17,360 Speaker 1: to some sort of an earpiece, But you would think 460 00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:21,280 Speaker 1: that someone who's at this high end poker game would 461 00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:24,520 Speaker 1: Now I don't know, I don't know. Maybe they have 462 00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:26,840 Speaker 1: it in a room where simply a light goes on 463 00:26:27,160 --> 00:26:32,600 Speaker 1: or there's I don't know, this was sophisticated stuff. Let 464 00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:35,639 Speaker 1: me get back to the calls. See what people think again. 465 00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:39,119 Speaker 1: You know, the truth, the guilt or innocence of these 466 00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:44,280 Speaker 1: people be be determined by a jury of their peers. 467 00:26:45,119 --> 00:26:46,119 Speaker 3: All we know is what the. 468 00:26:46,119 --> 00:26:51,600 Speaker 1: Allegations are up. The allegations are pretty wild. NBA players 469 00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:54,879 Speaker 1: who late in the season, you know, you're you're an 470 00:26:55,040 --> 00:26:58,920 Speaker 1: under five hundred team, uh, and you're Terry Roseier and 471 00:26:59,040 --> 00:27:01,440 Speaker 1: you're playing late the season. I think one game was 472 00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:05,800 Speaker 1: in March that he's alleged to have basically pulled himself 473 00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:09,240 Speaker 1: himself out of early and his friends or people could 474 00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:11,680 Speaker 1: have bet prop bets that he was not going to 475 00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:14,760 Speaker 1: score a certain number of points. That's how it went. 476 00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:18,600 Speaker 1: Tina in wunsakat Rhode Island. Tina, you were next on Nightsiger, 477 00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:19,359 Speaker 1: Right ahead. 478 00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:21,040 Speaker 7: Yes, I have a question. 479 00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:21,680 Speaker 3: Sure. 480 00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:26,000 Speaker 7: Let's say. Let's say I'm a professional baseball player. I'm 481 00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:29,600 Speaker 7: just an ordinary, run of the mill baseball player, but 482 00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:33,639 Speaker 7: I am a professional, whether I'm a great player or mediocre, 483 00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:37,560 Speaker 7: and sometimes I may be making great plays, and then 484 00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:41,560 Speaker 7: somebody in the gambling world could be betting on me 485 00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:46,000 Speaker 7: making thousands or millions of dollars of what I do 486 00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:51,919 Speaker 7: or don't do. Is my understanding correct of a professional player? 487 00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:52,560 Speaker 3: Yeah? 488 00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:56,040 Speaker 1: Will they have what's called let me simplify it for you. Okay, 489 00:27:57,160 --> 00:28:01,240 Speaker 1: but you're right on the money. So, for example, most 490 00:28:01,359 --> 00:28:04,399 Speaker 1: of the prop bets, and I don't do prop bets, 491 00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:07,320 Speaker 1: but I know people who have explained. 492 00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:08,880 Speaker 3: It to me. Most of the prop bets. 493 00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:12,360 Speaker 1: Let's say you're gonna watch the Patriots game next Sunday, 494 00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:14,560 Speaker 1: and you want to have a little action on the 495 00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:18,240 Speaker 1: Patriots game. You can bet if the Patriots let's assume 496 00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:20,400 Speaker 1: the Patriots are going to be I'm just gonna pick 497 00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:23,959 Speaker 1: a number A three point favorite over the Cleveland Browns, 498 00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:27,919 Speaker 1: so you can bet the game on what they call 499 00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:30,240 Speaker 1: the number line. So if you say, I think the 500 00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:32,480 Speaker 1: Patriots are going to win that game by more than three, 501 00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:35,760 Speaker 1: so you can bet whatever you want, ten bucks, fifty bucks, 502 00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:38,320 Speaker 1: one hundred bucks, a thousand bucks, whatever, and say the 503 00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:39,480 Speaker 1: Patriots are going to win. 504 00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:40,480 Speaker 3: Now. 505 00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:42,600 Speaker 1: In order for you to collect on your bet, and 506 00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:45,640 Speaker 1: to win, the Patriots only have to beat the Cleveland 507 00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:48,720 Speaker 1: Browns by three points, and normally it'll be like three 508 00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:51,000 Speaker 1: and a half, but they have to get more points. 509 00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:54,160 Speaker 1: They have to win by more points, so it's you know, 510 00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:58,440 Speaker 1: then you could bet the game straight up, but then 511 00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:01,640 Speaker 1: there's odds on that. So in other words, the points 512 00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:04,760 Speaker 1: are supposed to even out the field, the playing field. 513 00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:06,840 Speaker 1: But then they have prop bets, and these are the 514 00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:10,880 Speaker 1: ones that have caused the problem here. Because it's easier, 515 00:29:11,560 --> 00:29:15,360 Speaker 1: it's tougher to fix a team game unless you can 516 00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:19,200 Speaker 1: get to the most critical player. But you could say, okay, 517 00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:24,720 Speaker 1: let's say the Patriots have a running back, okay, and 518 00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:29,520 Speaker 1: they say, well, he's gonna have to he's gonna score, 519 00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:33,800 Speaker 1: he's gonna gain fifty yards and he's going to score 520 00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:36,640 Speaker 1: a touchdown. So you can take those two bets and 521 00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:39,280 Speaker 1: you can say, I think player so and so is 522 00:29:39,320 --> 00:29:42,560 Speaker 1: going to run for more than fifty yards and he's 523 00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:44,920 Speaker 1: going to score at least one touchdown. And if he 524 00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:47,240 Speaker 1: does that, if he goes more than fifty yards during 525 00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:49,920 Speaker 1: the course of the game and scores a touchdown, you win. 526 00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:52,840 Speaker 1: If he has a bad game and he only gets 527 00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:57,160 Speaker 1: forty nine yards and he doesn't score a touchdown, you lose. 528 00:29:57,720 --> 00:30:03,160 Speaker 1: So that that is how you can make money off 529 00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:07,280 Speaker 1: the performance. And of course a big gambler can you know, 530 00:30:07,360 --> 00:30:09,480 Speaker 1: they can do their research and say, wow, you know 531 00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:13,640 Speaker 1: we're gonna bet on you know, a major league play 532 00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:17,560 Speaker 1: major League Baseball player. They do with pitchers strikeouts. How 533 00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:22,920 Speaker 1: many strikeouts will will this pitcher have in this game? 534 00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:27,160 Speaker 1: So if he has more than seven strikeouts, you win 535 00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:29,880 Speaker 1: the bet. If it's seven strikeouts or less, you'll lose 536 00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:34,160 Speaker 1: the bet. So there's this, you know, and again, if 537 00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:39,080 Speaker 1: you the thing that Rosier apparently got himself in trouble 538 00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:43,400 Speaker 1: on was that late in the season, I guess he 539 00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:46,320 Speaker 1: decided that he needed to make some extra money and 540 00:30:46,520 --> 00:30:48,840 Speaker 1: he figured that on this particular game he was going 541 00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:52,200 Speaker 1: to have a sprained ankle, and that he was going 542 00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:55,320 Speaker 1: to pull himself out of the game with you know, 543 00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:58,360 Speaker 1: with only seven minutes play, and so therefore he did 544 00:30:58,480 --> 00:31:01,680 Speaker 1: not make the things that he was supposed to do. 545 00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:05,200 Speaker 1: He didn't score ten points, he didn't have five assists. 546 00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:09,280 Speaker 3: That sort of stuff. So, okay, they thought that that 547 00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:10,360 Speaker 3: would go under the radar. 548 00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:15,880 Speaker 1: But apparently I'm DraftKings and these other professional sports organizations said, 549 00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:18,920 Speaker 1: why is there so much money coming in that Terry 550 00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:22,080 Speaker 1: Roser Terry Rozier is not gonna make. You know, normally 551 00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:24,640 Speaker 1: they like to have the bets fifty to fifty because 552 00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:28,800 Speaker 1: that way the sports book makes their money. That's how 553 00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:29,640 Speaker 1: they make their money. 554 00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:35,360 Speaker 7: Well, okay, Dan, thank you for explaining it as much 555 00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:38,520 Speaker 7: as I can understand. I think I do understand what 556 00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:39,400 Speaker 7: you were saying. 557 00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:40,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's it. 558 00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:42,520 Speaker 1: I mean, they could say, for example, they could have 559 00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:45,440 Speaker 1: let's I'll keep it real simple. Aaron Judge, the New 560 00:31:45,520 --> 00:31:48,080 Speaker 1: York Yankee player. He hits all the home runs. He 561 00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:50,280 Speaker 1: doesn't hit a home run in every game. Some games 562 00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:52,600 Speaker 1: he hits one, some games he hits two, some games 563 00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:55,920 Speaker 1: he hits none. Right, so you know, they could they 564 00:31:55,960 --> 00:31:59,720 Speaker 1: could say, Okay, he's facing a good picture tonight, we're 565 00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:02,560 Speaker 1: gonna say that he has to hit one home run. 566 00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:04,920 Speaker 1: So a lot of people say, oh, I love Aaron Judge, 567 00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:07,360 Speaker 1: and they say he'll hit one home run at least, 568 00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:10,160 Speaker 1: and he doesn't, they lose their bets. That's what's called 569 00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:12,440 Speaker 1: a prop betyar. It's on the proposition. It's not on 570 00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:15,280 Speaker 1: whether the team will win or lose, but it's on 571 00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:18,200 Speaker 1: what will the player do in whatever. 572 00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:18,520 Speaker 3: The sport is. 573 00:32:19,080 --> 00:32:22,360 Speaker 2: Okay, okay, all right, I get it, all right, thank you. 574 00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:26,760 Speaker 1: Tina, appreciate it. Look, I thank you very much, Tina. 575 00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:30,040 Speaker 1: I know it's been slow the last two nights, but 576 00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:32,920 Speaker 1: right now I have wide open lines. I'm going to 577 00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:35,680 Speaker 1: go to commercials and I want to hear from some 578 00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:38,560 Speaker 1: of you who understand this and some of you don't 579 00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:42,560 Speaker 1: understand it. I want to know, does this shake your 580 00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:48,000 Speaker 1: faith in the legitimacy of professional sports in America? Or 581 00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:51,040 Speaker 1: maybe you didn't believe in the professional sports in America. 582 00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:54,560 Speaker 1: I always felt, and I still feel that because these 583 00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:58,920 Speaker 1: players are so highly compensated, they want to win and 584 00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:02,040 Speaker 1: they want to perform well so they can get another years, 585 00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:05,640 Speaker 1: another year at high wages. A lot of the NFL 586 00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:09,000 Speaker 1: players I think the average career for an NFL player 587 00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:12,200 Speaker 1: is like three point eight years. A lot of them 588 00:33:12,320 --> 00:33:14,880 Speaker 1: have long careers like Tom. Some have long careers like 589 00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:18,000 Speaker 1: Tom Brady, but they're the exception. A lot have very 590 00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:21,320 Speaker 1: short careers. I want to know, has this shaken you 591 00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:24,920 Speaker 1: faith in professional sports? And this story today is an 592 00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:29,760 Speaker 1: extraordinary story, and it may it may actually mushroom into 593 00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:35,120 Speaker 1: a bigger story if the prosecutors start to have plea 594 00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:38,080 Speaker 1: deals with some of these people who are involved, because 595 00:33:38,120 --> 00:33:40,520 Speaker 1: there could be a lot of people who get thrown 596 00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:44,080 Speaker 1: under the bus, bigger names even than the players who 597 00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:48,160 Speaker 1: were indicted and arrested today. Six seven, two, five thirty 598 00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:53,360 Speaker 1: six one seven, nine three, one ten thirty. I thought 599 00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:55,920 Speaker 1: this story would light the lines up for two hours. 600 00:33:56,000 --> 00:33:59,840 Speaker 1: It slowed down in the last twenty minutes. Let's like 601 00:33:59,920 --> 00:34:02,080 Speaker 1: these lines up again. Coming right back on night Side. 602 00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:07,800 Speaker 2: You're on night Side with Dan Ray on news radio. 603 00:34:08,160 --> 00:34:10,920 Speaker 3: Back to the phones we go, got Chris in East Ridgewater. 604 00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:13,520 Speaker 1: Chris, appreciate you calling in. You're next on Nightside. Your 605 00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:16,640 Speaker 1: thought on this this sports betting scandal? 606 00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:21,080 Speaker 2: Hey, Dan, how's it going been a while? 607 00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:24,719 Speaker 1: Well, don't don't be a stranger, Chris What's what's your 608 00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:26,280 Speaker 1: take on the sports betting scandal? 609 00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:26,880 Speaker 3: Go right ahead. 610 00:34:29,640 --> 00:34:32,080 Speaker 2: Well, I don't know if it will change my mind 611 00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:34,360 Speaker 2: about going to a game. I really don't go anyway. 612 00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:39,200 Speaker 2: It's you know, prohibitively okay, sad enough to get there. 613 00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:41,760 Speaker 2: I don't bettle on the sports. 614 00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:41,960 Speaker 5: I know. 615 00:34:42,120 --> 00:34:44,080 Speaker 2: I have friends that have been doing these prop bets 616 00:34:44,120 --> 00:34:46,360 Speaker 2: for a long time, even before it became so popular. 617 00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:51,560 Speaker 2: But I understand how it works. If I start thinking 618 00:34:51,680 --> 00:34:54,640 Speaker 2: that there's you know, tanking or collusion like that in 619 00:34:54,719 --> 00:34:58,960 Speaker 2: the games, I'm probably gonna be less interested because to me, 620 00:34:59,120 --> 00:35:01,560 Speaker 2: that's like going to a CA concert where you think 621 00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:03,480 Speaker 2: there's a good chance the artists might not really be 622 00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:05,960 Speaker 2: singing and that there are artists that I think do 623 00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:09,520 Speaker 2: that and I won't go, or or you could. 624 00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:13,160 Speaker 1: You could compared to going to a professional wrestling match, 625 00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:18,520 Speaker 1: where I mean it's that's theater. Uh if people go 626 00:35:18,680 --> 00:35:20,960 Speaker 1: and think that those those matches are on the level, 627 00:35:21,040 --> 00:35:23,839 Speaker 1: you know that the matches are scripted, but you if 628 00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:26,440 Speaker 1: you go, you like the athleticism of the of the 629 00:35:26,520 --> 00:35:29,319 Speaker 1: moves that the restless can make. But in sports, I mean, 630 00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:31,960 Speaker 1: this is devastating. This is devastating in my opinion. 631 00:35:32,719 --> 00:35:36,040 Speaker 2: Right, Oh yeah, well I've been. It's funny you mentioned 632 00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:37,759 Speaker 2: that I've been a wrestling day my whole life. And 633 00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:41,880 Speaker 2: you know, even before they started calling it sports entertainment, 634 00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:46,320 Speaker 2: you know, I knew somebody who worked for one of 635 00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:49,960 Speaker 2: the bigger promotions briefly. And yes, they have to know 636 00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:53,240 Speaker 2: who's gonna end up winning. Occasionally, that changes if injuries 637 00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:56,720 Speaker 2: happen because they can't write the stories right, the matches themselves, 638 00:35:56,800 --> 00:35:59,240 Speaker 2: move by move or somebody are more scripted than others 639 00:35:59,320 --> 00:35:59,840 Speaker 2: and got. 640 00:35:59,719 --> 00:36:02,320 Speaker 3: You totally totally get it. 641 00:36:02,600 --> 00:36:06,400 Speaker 1: So this is not going to change your mind because 642 00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:09,360 Speaker 1: you're not You're not somebody who's do you watch games 643 00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:09,839 Speaker 1: on TV? 644 00:36:10,040 --> 00:36:10,279 Speaker 2: Will this? 645 00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:13,600 Speaker 3: Well? You will you watch less games on TV? 646 00:36:13,800 --> 00:36:13,920 Speaker 7: You know? 647 00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:20,480 Speaker 2: Well, I really only pay attention to football, So if 648 00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:23,200 Speaker 2: it's starts hitting in the NFL when there's anything proven, 649 00:36:23,239 --> 00:36:26,440 Speaker 2: it will seriously diminish my enjoyment of it to a 650 00:36:26,520 --> 00:36:30,160 Speaker 2: point where I might not bother or watch anymore. What's 651 00:36:30,200 --> 00:36:33,160 Speaker 2: a huge game year, then that's you know pretty much. 652 00:36:33,160 --> 00:36:36,359 Speaker 2: I hockey and basketball don't do it for me. If 653 00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:39,040 Speaker 2: I can briefly quick to touch on the poker thing, 654 00:36:39,120 --> 00:36:41,560 Speaker 2: I I studied a little bit about one of those 655 00:36:41,640 --> 00:36:45,000 Speaker 2: poker sites back that was accused of it. It was 656 00:36:45,080 --> 00:36:50,040 Speaker 2: absolute poker, I know it covers and somehow somebody got 657 00:36:50,040 --> 00:36:52,600 Speaker 2: a hold of a super yuser account that could see 658 00:36:52,640 --> 00:36:55,400 Speaker 2: all the cards and would have that account up on 659 00:36:55,480 --> 00:36:58,759 Speaker 2: one screen and be playing under their regular screen name 660 00:36:59,280 --> 00:37:02,080 Speaker 2: on another trriminal. That's how that was happening. It wasn't 661 00:37:02,120 --> 00:37:06,040 Speaker 2: really a team thing. But once once it was caught, 662 00:37:06,280 --> 00:37:08,840 Speaker 2: because they are brought to their attention, they investigated it 663 00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:12,000 Speaker 2: kind of what happened and reimburse anybody who would lost 664 00:37:12,080 --> 00:37:13,280 Speaker 2: any money in those tournaments. 665 00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:18,400 Speaker 1: Okay, that's that's good. That's good to know. I know 666 00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:21,839 Speaker 1: that a lot of people love that stuff. Hey, Chris, 667 00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:23,440 Speaker 1: I got a couple more. I'm going to try to 668 00:37:23,520 --> 00:37:24,759 Speaker 1: sneak in here if I can. 669 00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:28,720 Speaker 3: Thank you as always be a don't be a stranger, 670 00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:29,720 Speaker 3: come on back. Okay. 671 00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:33,920 Speaker 2: Everybody tells me every time they see me, I'm stranger. 672 00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:34,560 Speaker 2: What can I say? 673 00:37:34,760 --> 00:37:37,600 Speaker 3: No, I said, don't be a stranger. Okay, thanks very much, 674 00:37:37,680 --> 00:37:38,680 Speaker 3: have a good night, good night. 675 00:37:39,080 --> 00:37:42,399 Speaker 1: Let me go to John in New Hampshire, John, John, 676 00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:47,799 Speaker 1: go right ahead. This is John in New York, John 677 00:37:47,840 --> 00:37:51,640 Speaker 1: in New Hampshire. Which which is it New York, John, 678 00:37:51,680 --> 00:37:53,560 Speaker 1: and New York had said John in New Hampshire. So 679 00:37:54,239 --> 00:37:57,600 Speaker 1: that's Rob's fault, not mine. What's your take on this? 680 00:37:57,800 --> 00:38:00,520 Speaker 1: This is a New York centric story Today story in 681 00:38:00,600 --> 00:38:00,960 Speaker 1: New York. 682 00:38:01,040 --> 00:38:01,279 Speaker 3: John. 683 00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:06,160 Speaker 8: Yeah, I know, but I wanted to make a comment 684 00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:10,279 Speaker 8: about I mean, it's a sport horse racing. 685 00:38:11,760 --> 00:38:16,160 Speaker 2: Right, go ahead, go ahead, years ago when. 686 00:38:16,040 --> 00:38:18,600 Speaker 8: I was young. I'm gonna tell you a situation. All right. 687 00:38:19,120 --> 00:38:21,880 Speaker 3: You gotta be quick because we're getting tied on time here. 688 00:38:21,960 --> 00:38:23,279 Speaker 2: Gotta be quick, all right. 689 00:38:23,719 --> 00:38:26,200 Speaker 8: Yeah, you have a group of jockey, so right, they're 690 00:38:26,239 --> 00:38:28,319 Speaker 8: in a bar and talking and everything. It's a club, 691 00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:30,839 Speaker 8: all right. And you got one guy that isn't doing 692 00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:34,680 Speaker 8: so well that season, right, what can't happen? This is true. 693 00:38:35,160 --> 00:38:37,960 Speaker 8: They hold back and let that they did not make 694 00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:40,839 Speaker 8: it much money. He might not put around walk. He's 695 00:38:40,880 --> 00:38:43,200 Speaker 8: in a great guy. So everybody helps him out and 696 00:38:43,239 --> 00:38:46,799 Speaker 8: they make sure he wins. This is what goes on sometimes, Dan, 697 00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:47,520 Speaker 8: all the time. 698 00:38:47,640 --> 00:38:50,680 Speaker 3: Okay, Okay, that's that's possible. That's possible. 699 00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:53,680 Speaker 1: I had never heard that story before. That's interesting, John. 700 00:38:53,719 --> 00:38:56,279 Speaker 1: I want to get one other person into I appreciate your. 701 00:38:56,239 --> 00:39:00,440 Speaker 3: Calling, I really do. Good night, good night. 702 00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:03,280 Speaker 1: Let me go to Linda in Weymouth. Linda, you gotta 703 00:39:03,320 --> 00:39:05,960 Speaker 1: be quick for me. I only got about thirty seconds. 704 00:39:06,040 --> 00:39:08,320 Speaker 1: You have called very late, but I'd love to accommodate. 705 00:39:08,360 --> 00:39:08,840 Speaker 3: You go ahead. 706 00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:13,400 Speaker 9: I just want to say that I am extremely just 707 00:39:13,600 --> 00:39:17,480 Speaker 9: hottened over this whole thing, and it has shaken my 708 00:39:17,680 --> 00:39:21,040 Speaker 9: faith in in the sports. 709 00:39:21,360 --> 00:39:24,080 Speaker 7: Now it really has well, and I think it might get. 710 00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:26,960 Speaker 1: I think as this thing involves, it might even get worse. Linda, 711 00:39:27,120 --> 00:39:29,120 Speaker 1: So prepare yourself. 712 00:39:29,239 --> 00:39:32,560 Speaker 3: And again, this is these these are the exceptions, they're 713 00:39:32,600 --> 00:39:33,200 Speaker 3: not the rule. 714 00:39:33,239 --> 00:39:35,640 Speaker 1: I think it's important for us to understand that that 715 00:39:36,200 --> 00:39:38,160 Speaker 1: most of these guys are going out there doing their 716 00:39:38,200 --> 00:39:41,879 Speaker 1: best because they're earning their money the old fashioned way. 717 00:39:41,920 --> 00:39:43,279 Speaker 3: They're working, they're working hard. 718 00:39:44,480 --> 00:39:44,640 Speaker 7: Right. 719 00:39:45,280 --> 00:39:47,359 Speaker 1: I want to thank you Linda for forgetting in later, 720 00:39:47,360 --> 00:39:49,720 Speaker 1: and I want to thank all the callers. We're flat 721 00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:52,560 Speaker 1: out of time, so I will thank you again. I'm 722 00:39:52,600 --> 00:39:55,879 Speaker 1: going to be on Facebook nice with Dan Ryan about 723 00:39:55,920 --> 00:39:57,840 Speaker 1: two minutes. Maybe I'll see you there. Okay, thank you, 724 00:39:58,000 --> 00:39:58,520 Speaker 1: thanks lending. 725 00:39:58,600 --> 00:40:00,400 Speaker 7: Yeah, thanks, good night soon. 726 00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:03,000 Speaker 1: All right, Rob Brooks a nice job. I want to 727 00:40:03,040 --> 00:40:05,719 Speaker 1: thank Marita. I want to thank all the callers night. 728 00:40:06,040 --> 00:40:08,360 Speaker 1: This was a tough subject, but thank you for calling. 729 00:40:08,880 --> 00:40:11,440 Speaker 1: I want to thank all the listeners, but callers are 730 00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:13,480 Speaker 1: very important. I just want to say thanks to all 731 00:40:13,480 --> 00:40:16,239 Speaker 1: of them. I will be on Nightside with Dan Ray alendus. 732 00:40:16,280 --> 00:40:19,120 Speaker 1: Always have a great Friday everyone, and in the meantime, 733 00:40:19,239 --> 00:40:21,759 Speaker 1: all remind you all dogs, all cats, all pets go 734 00:40:21,880 --> 00:40:24,240 Speaker 1: to heaven. That's my pal Charlie Rays, who passed fifteen 735 00:40:24,320 --> 00:40:27,200 Speaker 1: years ago in February. That's where all your pets are 736 00:40:27,200 --> 00:40:29,160 Speaker 1: who had passed. They loved you and you love them. 737 00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:31,040 Speaker 1: I do believe you'll see them again. Hope see again 738 00:40:31,080 --> 00:40:34,560 Speaker 1: tomorrow night at Nightside. We will see you on Facebook 739 00:40:34,680 --> 00:40:35,560 Speaker 1: Nights Oie with Dan Ray. 740 00:40:35,719 --> 00:40:36,160 Speaker 2: Just a couple