Speaker 1: Where I am. I believe we have all survived Christmas,
Speaker 1: or else we would not be here today.
Speaker 2: Right. Maybe we didn't survive Christmas.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't be talking, you wouldn't be listening, and you
Speaker 1: wouldn't be yelling back at me.
Speaker 2: So we're here. We survived yet another Christmas.
Speaker 1: All of the spending, all of the cooking, all of
Speaker 1: the cleaning, all of the things you have to do.
Speaker 2: But I hope the things that you did.
Speaker 1: I hope whatever gifts you gave, whatever gifts you received,
Speaker 1: I hope wherever you went yesterday to celebrate Christmas, which
Speaker 1: I hope was someplace that does have some religious connotations.
Speaker 1: But nevertheless, however it went down, I hope it was
Speaker 1: a blessed and happy Christmas for you, because there are
Speaker 1: so few times that we, not just as an American society,
Speaker 1: but we as family, can gather together. And though family
Speaker 1: can cause tensions, sometimes families can cause great joy, sometimes
Speaker 1: they can cause great sorrow. We only have a finite
Speaker 1: number of days that we can get together and do
Speaker 1: things like that. So that's what I hoped for for you,
Speaker 1: and I hope it all turned out that way for you,
Speaker 1: And if it did not for whatever reason, you got
Speaker 1: to keep trying, right, You just got to keep trying.
Speaker 1: We had a great time here at our place, and
Speaker 1: we're now to press on for the things that are
Speaker 1: going to define you, me and everyone else in the
Speaker 1: next couple of days and on into twenty twenty six.
Speaker 1: We keep hearing the twenty twenty six is going to
Speaker 1: be a wonderful year economically. Keep hearing that the one
Speaker 1: Big Beautiful Law is no longer one big beautiful bill.
Speaker 1: It's one big beautiful law that will kick in on
Speaker 1: January the first will reap a lot of benefits for
Speaker 1: you and us financially and otherwise.
Speaker 2: And so because of.
Speaker 1: That, I think it might be time to just sit
Speaker 1: back and just take sense of where we are as
Speaker 1: not only a country, but also as a world. And
Speaker 1: there are a number of hot spots around the world,
Speaker 1: one of which is Nigeria. As I'm sure you know
Speaker 1: by now, the President Donald J. Trump launched a quote
Speaker 1: unquote powerful and deadly strike against forces of the Islamic State,
Speaker 1: the folks that have been slaughtering Christians in Nigeria. Well,
Speaker 1: Trump had pledged to a number of people, including entertainer
Speaker 1: Nicki Minaj, that he was going to take care of
Speaker 1: all of that. And he certainly started that process by
Speaker 1: just unleashing the wrath of the United States military in
Speaker 1: this in this attack on Christmas night, and he had
Speaker 1: been planning it, accordingly to or according to sources inside
Speaker 1: the Pentagon, he had been planning this for weeks and
Speaker 1: so it was carried out. And just about a week
Speaker 1: before that, of course, we had a three We had
Speaker 1: three Americans killed by the Islamic Islamic State, two soldiers
Speaker 1: at a civilian, three others injured an attack in Syria. Now,
Speaker 1: did anybody wonder what is the United States still doing
Speaker 1: in Syria? Thought we were done with that, you know,
Speaker 1: on to the next but apparently not. And so Trump
Speaker 1: subsequently ordered an attack on the Islamic State, the camp
Speaker 1: that launched the attack on the Americans, and more strikes
Speaker 1: are expected inside Syria. But we seem to be focused
Speaker 1: on a lot of different things. Blown up drug boats
Speaker 1: in Venezuela, blocking Venezuela. Seemed to be distracted in a
Speaker 1: great sense by what's going on with Russia and Ukraine,
Speaker 1: and to maybe a lesser extent, the ongoing struggle now
Speaker 1: between Israel and forces from various jihad groups in that
Speaker 1: area of the world that seems to be simmering, that
Speaker 1: Yahoo has been summered. He's going to meet with Trump
Speaker 1: next week, as is Olenski. But Syria, what are we
Speaker 1: doing in Syria? And do we have our eye on
Speaker 1: the ball on the real important things? Standing by to
Speaker 1: join us as somebody that's wondering the same things too.
Speaker 1: Jeff Crower is a political commentator of great note. He's
Speaker 1: been around a very long time. You can see him
Speaker 1: on a lot of different outlets. I mean we're talking
Speaker 1: about MSNBC, CNN, He's written for The New York Times,
Speaker 1: He's appeared on Fox News, Newsmax, has his own talk
Speaker 1: show in Louisiana down in New Orleans, and I wanted
Speaker 1: to get him on the show today to talk about
Speaker 1: this because it's been kind of an advocation of his
Speaker 1: to keep track of what troops are doing from the
Speaker 1: United States around the world and why the heck we're
Speaker 1: still in Syria. So standing by is the aforementioned Jeff Crower.
Speaker 1: How are you on this glorious day after Christmas?
Speaker 3: Hey, Ken, thanks for having me.
Speaker 1: I'm glad you're here. Obviously, this is a serious situation.
Speaker 1: Three Americans killed by the Islamic State gunmen. Gunmen's probably
Speaker 1: two soldiers and a civilian. Three others injured. The United
Speaker 1: States retaliates with an attack about seventy targets. I think
Speaker 1: a lot of people in this country were unaware that
Speaker 1: the United States still had an active presence in Syria.
Speaker 1: I think that our presence in Syria is a mission
Speaker 1: that really has no definition at this point, does it.
Speaker 3: I agree. I mean, I know the President during his
Speaker 3: first term was trying to get our troops out of Syria,
Speaker 3: and I supported that completely because I don't understand why
Speaker 3: we're there. I don't understand why we were in Afghanistan
Speaker 3: for twenty years or Iraq for so many years. I mean,
Speaker 3: this is not, I think, a vital interest in the
Speaker 3: United States. And we're losing our soldiers, we're spending money
Speaker 3: that we don't have, and we're in a reason that
Speaker 3: is forever marked by turmoil and war and different factions
Speaker 3: within you know, radical Islam. So we're aligning ourselves with
Speaker 3: a president there who's a former terrorist.
Speaker 2: So a Jeff. They hate us.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's obvious that they don't want us there.
Speaker 1: It's obvious that the president of the country doesn't like
Speaker 1: the United States. Isis I mean, I mean, there's so
Speaker 1: many different titles. This is the Islamic State, then there's Isis,
Speaker 1: you know, then there's you know. I mean, it just
Speaker 1: it's obvious. It's a quagmire over there. We tried to
Speaker 1: get into nation building at a lot of places and
Speaker 1: it failed, and here we go again. I don't even
Speaker 1: know what the strategic value is to the United States,
Speaker 1: do you.
Speaker 3: Well, supposedly we're there to limit the Islamic State ISIS
Speaker 3: from expanding and to try to go after you know,
Speaker 3: isis terrace in that country. And I'm thinking, well, I
Speaker 3: mean that should be the job of the president of Syria.
Speaker 3: I mean, this is a country that was led by
Speaker 3: the Asade dictatorship, the family dictatorship for five decades. He
Speaker 3: was forced out by a military force that grew quickly
Speaker 3: and swept over the country. He's in exile in Russia.
Speaker 3: For all his faults, he was at least permitting Christianity
Speaker 3: to remain in Syria. Since the new leadership has taken over,
Speaker 3: we've had Christian churches that have been targeted, burned down,
Speaker 3: Christians killed. The Christian population there in Syria, which is
Speaker 3: a historic connection to Christianity, is dwindling. So I mean,
Speaker 3: I have my questions about whether we can trust this regime. Supposedly,
Speaker 3: the Americans that were killed were killed by a member
Speaker 3: of the Syrian security force that had turned to ISIS
Speaker 3: and had been recruited by ISIS. And my question is,
Speaker 3: can how many others within the security forces of Syria
Speaker 3: are really to have true allegiance to ISIS.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And the answer to that question for me is
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't think anybody knows at this point.
Speaker 1: But regardless of strategic objective and regardless of what genocide
Speaker 1: is going on in Syria, it just seems like we
Speaker 1: get dragged into these quagmires all the time, and there's
Speaker 1: no easy way out. I mean, you can go back
Speaker 1: as far as Korea and up as recently as Vietnam.
Speaker 1: We get in there and rather than just declare victory
Speaker 1: and go home, we just get bogged down in these things.
Speaker 1: Afghanistan is the same way here recently. I don't understand.
Speaker 1: I don't understand why, through various administrations, we think we
Speaker 1: have to police the world. Why do we have to
Speaker 1: do that?
Speaker 3: You are one hundred percent right, we do not. We
Speaker 3: should not. The track record is abysmal. I mean, just
Speaker 3: give you. Let's just look at Afghanistan. We went in
Speaker 3: there in two thousand and one after the nine to
Speaker 3: eleven attacks, supposedly to go after those who plan the
Speaker 3: nine to eleven attacks, and Osama bin Laden slipped away,
Speaker 3: so instead of declaring victory and coming home, we stayed
Speaker 3: there for twenty years. When we went to Afghanistan, the
Speaker 3: Taliban was in charge. When we left Afghanistan, the Taliban
Speaker 3: was in charge. They outlasted us. So all the people
Speaker 3: that were killed, maimed, mentally impacted, all the Afghan allies
Speaker 3: quote unquote of ours who died, all that was for
Speaker 3: naught because Afghanistan was still ruled by I think a
Speaker 3: terrorist regime, the Taliban. But now they had billions of
Speaker 3: dollars of our weapons that we left behind, and we
Speaker 3: built an airbase that we left behind for them called Bogrum.
Speaker 3: So it was a disaster of epic proportions. And then
Speaker 3: the way we left was disastrous, and of course thirteen
Speaker 3: of our heroes were killed.
Speaker 1: You know, I like to say, the answer to all
Speaker 1: of our questions in life is money. The answer to
Speaker 1: all of our geopolitical interests may be oil. I know
Speaker 1: Syria has oil, it's crude oil. But they have got oil,
Speaker 1: natural gas. They've got some minerals I guess over there, rock, salt, marble, gypsum,
Speaker 1: things like that. So there may be some strategic reason
Speaker 1: that we're over there, But from a I guess from
Speaker 1: an economic standpoint, maybe that strategic is oil. It seems
Speaker 1: like everything is oil these days. Venezuela is oil. Russia
Speaker 1: cutting off Russia is about oil, cutting off China is
Speaker 1: about oil. So maybe it's money and oil is at
Speaker 1: the root of all of these things. I mean that
Speaker 1: theory may be as good as any at this point.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 3: No, I think that that could be a factor.
Speaker 4: But I mean, I think in.
Speaker 3: The thissadministration, we're working to become energy independent where we
Speaker 3: shouldn't have to go send our troops to the Middle East.
Speaker 3: I mean, we should have enough resources here to be
Speaker 3: able to take care of ourselves. I mean, I know
Speaker 3: that was why we got involved in the first Golf War,
Speaker 3: because you know, Rock Invada, Kuwait, and we were worried
Speaker 3: about the world oil supply, and that led to all
Speaker 3: these other engagements wars over there.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 3: I mean, we're unleashing our energy potential here, so as
Speaker 3: we become energy independent, we shouldn't be worried about what's
Speaker 3: going on all over the world. But I think it
Speaker 3: is a reason. I think it definitely is a reason
Speaker 3: with Venezuela because they're massive supplies there, so you know,
Speaker 3: the world markets, I guess for one of the reasons
Speaker 3: and so forth. The President wants to have low price
Speaker 3: of oil and the free flow of oil. So we're
Speaker 3: taking action against Venezuela, which is a whole other issue.
Speaker 3: But I can see that more than I can SyRI
Speaker 3: A kin, because at least Venezuela is in our neighborhood,
Speaker 3: is impacting Americans through the drugs that are coming here.
Speaker 3: That is an impact on our country. I don't see
Speaker 3: the Syrian situation as being something that is the most
Speaker 3: important to our own national security.
Speaker 2: Maybe Israel, but not ours.
Speaker 1: What would happen, in your opinion, if we just declared
Speaker 1: victory and pulled out of Syria him Afghanistan obviously was
Speaker 1: a debacle the way we left, but even leaving was
Speaker 1: in the works before Joe Biden completely you know, made
Speaker 1: that a complete Chataki mushroom show. What you know, what
Speaker 1: what what would be the what would be the folly
Speaker 1: and just saying Okay, we're done with Syria.
Speaker 3: I think zero. I think we would save money. I
Speaker 3: think we would save lives. I think we could put
Speaker 3: our troops are over there into places that are of
Speaker 3: more importance to us, like the border. I think that,
Speaker 3: you know, Israel might have to step up and do more,
Speaker 3: but I mean that should be left to Israel to
Speaker 3: do so. Again, I think that there would not be
Speaker 3: devastating ramifications at all. I mean, I think our troops
Speaker 3: over there are target to be terrorists.
Speaker 4: That's why you know these attacks occurred.
Speaker 3: They want to they want to kill Americans, and be
Speaker 3: harder for them to do it if we're not there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I mean, who knows. I don't know. I
Speaker 2: was still I was a little.
Speaker 1: Taken aback by what happened, And maybe that was in
Speaker 1: essence the strategy, the surprise of the attack.
Speaker 2: They poked the beast.
Speaker 1: Apparently we retaliated, but that to me seems so nineteen
Speaker 1: nineties in the way we responded over there. I just
Speaker 1: don't know what our policy is globally.
Speaker 2: I just don't know.
Speaker 3: And can I would say, hey, we responded, that's a
Speaker 3: great time to say, Okay, we're victorious. We responded, we
Speaker 3: struck back at the enemy. We're leaving where we're taking
Speaker 3: our troops out. And I know that President Trump shares
Speaker 3: this view.
Speaker 4: Because he had it during his first term.
Speaker 3: It's just incredible to me that we're still there, that
Speaker 3: we're still there, and I'm sure somehow Israel is one
Speaker 3: of the reasons why we are.
Speaker 1: Jeff Cruerer is our guest political commentator. Analysts seeing him
Speaker 1: on all kinds of outlets MSNBC, Fox, CNBC, places like that.
Speaker 1: What do you think? And I've got to ask you this.
Speaker 1: It's a half a globe away from Syria, but we
Speaker 1: touched on it. What do you think the endgame is
Speaker 1: in Venezuela. Trump doesn't want troops on the ground. He
Speaker 1: said that he's got a blockade going, he's seizing tanker ships.
Speaker 1: I'm just I'm wondering there's got to be a next
Speaker 1: step or an end run here.
Speaker 2: What do you figure it is.
Speaker 3: I think he's trying to pressure him the Duro to leave,
Speaker 3: to exit, and I think he's trying to do it
Speaker 3: without introduction of US troops. And if there is I
Speaker 3: think it would be a short term situation, but I
Speaker 3: think that's the goal, to try to get Maduro to
Speaker 3: leave because of you know, his involvement in narco terrorism, etc.
Speaker 3: And I know a lot of Libertarians are not fans
Speaker 3: of this, and I don't think it's really something that
Speaker 3: we should be focusing on. And I think a lot
Speaker 3: of you know, Republicans are split about this. You know,
Speaker 3: Tucker Calls and Martie Taylor Green and others are raising
Speaker 3: questions about it. I do believe that Maduro's illegitimate in
Speaker 3: that he stole the election there, and you know, it's
Speaker 3: in power in a dictatorship that is propping up Cuba
Speaker 3: and you know when in alliance with Russia and China.
Speaker 3: The question is, I mean, is this our role and
Speaker 3: responsibility to remove him? And you know, I do think
Speaker 3: we can make a case for blowing.
Speaker 4: Up these narco terrorist votes that are.
Speaker 3: On their way to the US and possibly to recover
Speaker 3: some of the assets that were stolen from US when
Speaker 3: the dictatorship started, some of our oil assets. But as
Speaker 3: far as regime change, I would hope we're not moving
Speaker 3: in the direction of introducing US troops because I don't
Speaker 3: want to trade a war in Afghanistan for war in Venezuela.
Speaker 2: Sure.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, again going back to the policeman of the world
Speaker 1: point of view, but this, as as you and I
Speaker 1: both know and I think you mentioned, has more strategic
Speaker 1: value to deal with this than perhaps what's going on
Speaker 1: in places like Siria. Jeff Corware, it's always great having
Speaker 1: you on the show. Good luck with your shows down
Speaker 1: there in New Orleans. We'll do this again after the
Speaker 1: new year. But for your time today.
Speaker 2: Thanks, let's do it.
Speaker 3: I can thank you so much.
Speaker 2: You bet all right.
Speaker 1: So you got what happened in Nigeria over Christmas, and
Speaker 1: then this Islamic State gunman that killed three Americans wounded
Speaker 1: three others about a week and a half ago, and
Speaker 1: so Trump obviously has got isis in his crossairs again.
Speaker 1: They're rearing their ugly head. But stand by, I mean,
Speaker 1: this whole thing in Syria could blow up too. The
Speaker 1: world is not a safe place, and the administration is
Speaker 1: trying to do I think a lot right now, but
Speaker 1: I think it realizes that Syria is at this point
Speaker 1: something they have to start paying attention to. Again, I'm
Speaker 1: just saying there's a lot of things going on globe
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Speaker 2: I am ken Brew.
Speaker 1: Well, we spent a lot of money this holiday season.
Speaker 2: I know that.
Speaker 1: All I have to do is look out the window
Speaker 1: here at Kenwood Town Center. It's been jammed upright untul
Speaker 1: Christmas Eve, and it's jammed again today. So I'm just
Speaker 1: just thinking anecdotally, we seem to have spent a lot
Speaker 1: of money. The Amazon truck goes up and down my
Speaker 1: street at least fifty times a day. But we're getting
Speaker 1: mixed messages on the economy, aren't we. American consumers in
Speaker 1: December remain downbeat about the state of economy. This according
Speaker 1: to the Conference Board, which is a nonprofit group that
Speaker 1: represents small businesses and Americans. According to a CBS News poll,
Speaker 1: say that now they're basically down to maybe maybe as
Speaker 1: good as average on the economy. But yet we see
Speaker 1: things like the GDP. The GDP was a blistering four
Speaker 1: point three percent in the third quarter of twenty twenty five,
Speaker 1: so we're still spending. Jobs are pretty good. For the
Speaker 1: last week of November, sixty four thousand jobs in the
Speaker 1: month of November that wasn't all that much better, but
Speaker 1: better than what it.
Speaker 2: Was in October.
Speaker 1: So you can see there's mixed messages on all of
Speaker 1: that stuff that economists look at, and then it comes
Speaker 1: right down to you and me and how we feel
Speaker 1: because we're the ones that are actually going out there
Speaker 1: and doing the buying that make those numbers what they are.
Speaker 1: So where is the economy as we enter into twenty
Speaker 1: twenty six? Standing by to check in.
Speaker 2: On all of that?
Speaker 1: As Dan Veroni, he is a terrific economist, strategist, two
Speaker 1: time author, and he's got a best seller on Amazon
Speaker 1: right now that he was kind enough to send me
Speaker 1: Rethinking Economic Growth, and he is with Potonacre Potonacre dot
Speaker 1: com And Dan, how are you on this glorious day
Speaker 1: after Christmas.
Speaker 2: Of your listeners.
Speaker 1: I'm glad you're here. Let's just talk about this. You
Speaker 1: can see where there's a disconnect between Wall Street and
Speaker 1: Main Street. You probably see it where you live. I
Speaker 1: see it where I live. People spend and then it
Speaker 1: gets onto credit cards and oh my good goodness, here
Speaker 1: come those bills down the road. And I suppose, I
Speaker 1: suppose that may be the start of where this uncertainty
Speaker 1: about economics and the American consumer's opinion about where we're
Speaker 1: going economically in this country. Will that be a fair
Speaker 1: starting point for this?
Speaker 7: You know, I think probably the fairest starting point is
Speaker 7: what the consumer experiences. So if for all of us, right,
Speaker 7: we go to the guest pump, and you know, a
Speaker 7: year two years ago, we were getting sticker shock, and
Speaker 7: that sticker shock came in two forms, right, So one
Speaker 7: was the price we're paying forget saline, and two was
Speaker 7: the lower amount of spendable dollars we had after we
Speaker 7: filled our guest tanks up and then it's spilled over
Speaker 7: to the food store. We went into the food store
Speaker 7: and I said, oh my gosh, these food prices are
Speaker 7: absolutely ridiculous, and they keep climbing. So when you look
Speaker 7: at the things that we all experience, you can understand
Speaker 7: why affordability is an issue, or why for the first
Speaker 7: time home buyer those numbers seem not only unreachable, but unrealistic,
Speaker 7: you know, in terms of making that first first time purchase.
Speaker 7: So the answer is where are we today compared to
Speaker 7: twelve months ago or even twenty four months ago. And
Speaker 7: I'm happy to report that on an inflation basis, meaning
Speaker 7: the prices that we're paying for things. When the inflation
Speaker 7: numbers came in, the core inflation, right, came in a
Speaker 7: two point six percent versus you know what was closer
Speaker 7: to the three percent.
Speaker 2: So that's good news.
Speaker 7: But the best news of all, and this really matters,
Speaker 7: is the gasoline prices are down on average nationally about
Speaker 7: eighty cents a gallon. And here's really what that means.
Speaker 7: What that means is is that's going to have an
Speaker 7: impact on prices that we pay for things. So is
Speaker 7: an example where we're seeing what I call deflation come in.
Speaker 7: So dairy and related prices are down, milk prices are down,
Speaker 7: and cheese prices are flat to down, right, So that's
Speaker 7: good news. It's good news because those gasoline prices are down.
Speaker 7: How to gethylene impact those things, you got to ship
Speaker 7: those food products from point A to point B, and
Speaker 7: it requires gasoline. Lower gasoline prices means lower gas prices.
Speaker 7: It also means more spendable dollars in our pocket. I
Speaker 7: believe we're all going to be feeling better at the
Speaker 7: end of the first quarter next year, and absolutely at
Speaker 7: the end of the second quarter next year. Because we're
Speaker 7: going to be paying less for things, We're going to
Speaker 7: have more money in our pockets.
Speaker 1: Well, a couple of things President Trump inherited what I
Speaker 1: think was just a couple of insanities when it comes
Speaker 1: to economics in this country.
Speaker 2: First was inflation. I mean, it was just totally out
Speaker 2: of control.
Speaker 1: You and I'm guessing by the name of your company,
Speaker 1: you must live out near the Washington, DC area?
Speaker 2: Am I correct on that?
Speaker 7: I do. I'm within thirty miles of the Washington, DC border,
Speaker 7: and I'm there pretty often.
Speaker 2: Okay, Well, I.
Speaker 1: Used to live in rest in Virginia many many years ago,
Speaker 1: and you know, I know that sometimes inside the Beltway
Speaker 1: it's not always what is in effect around the rest
Speaker 1: of the country. But you're right about gasoline prices, it
Speaker 1: will cost less to ship. Inflation when the previous president
Speaker 1: was in office was out of sight because yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: they threw money at problems and they just created more problems.
Speaker 1: And there is not a forgiving media when it comes
Speaker 1: to Donald Trump. And so these are all great stories
Speaker 1: that have happened economically. I don't sense he's getting credit
Speaker 1: for it because of the way the media is. And
Speaker 1: I'm guessing hoping like you that when we get in
Speaker 1: second quarter of twenty twenty six, that the one Big
Speaker 1: Beautiful Now Law will allow some of these better stories
Speaker 1: to come out. And so we're not completely hit over
Speaker 1: the head with Jeffrey Epstein every day. I mean, I
Speaker 1: am I hoping for too much here?
Speaker 7: No, I don't think you're hoping too much, because prices
Speaker 7: in data matters. And you know, so next year when
Speaker 7: everybody opens up their paychecks, the withholding rates are going
Speaker 7: to be lower because of the Big Beautiful Law. When
Speaker 7: they get refund on average a tax refund, a federal
Speaker 7: tax refund to the tune of one to two thousand dollars.
Speaker 7: That's going to because of the Big Beautiful Law. When
Speaker 7: you look at the lowering gas prices, that's because the
Speaker 7: Trump administration inherited regulations that replied to the tune of
Speaker 7: about one point four trillion dollars. So when Republicans and
Speaker 7: Democrats say, so, Dan, tell me what these high prices are, Well,
Speaker 7: you know, last administration spent you know, seven eight trillion dollars,
Speaker 7: and that violated the loss of supply and demand, and
Speaker 7: that raised prices. But what they really did was add
Speaker 7: these excessive regulations that really added the prices. We all
Speaker 7: saw that at a guest pump the food store. Especially
Speaker 7: small businesses saw that, and I heard about how much
Speaker 7: they saw that. When I wrote my last book, I
Speaker 7: spent fifty hours of interviewing these small businesses and we
Speaker 7: spoke a lot about inflation, but we also talked a
Speaker 7: lot about regulations and how it was increasing prices. But
Speaker 7: I think at the end of the day when things
Speaker 7: start to come back, and they are coming back already.
Speaker 7: So let me give you another data point. Lenard Holmes,
Speaker 7: one of the biggest home builders in the country. President
Speaker 7: Trump announced on x just a few moments ago that
Speaker 7: they were lowering their prices by almost thirty percent. Wow,
Speaker 7: thirty percent. That's a big deal. So there's good news coming.
Speaker 7: I feel very good about it. But I want to
Speaker 7: tell you what needs to happen to really get the
Speaker 7: economy moving and to really have us feeling even better
Speaker 7: than we do today. The Federal Reserve needs to cut
Speaker 7: rates further. Several months ago, I had written two op
Speaker 7: eds that were published on Real Clear Politics, and I
Speaker 7: said that the Fed needed to reduce rates by one
Speaker 7: hundred and fifty basis points. They're reduced them by seventy
Speaker 7: five basis points. The reason why I was pushing is
Speaker 7: hard for that is because ninety nine point nine percent
Speaker 7: of the companies in this country are small businesses. These
Speaker 7: are the companies that employee on average eight or fewer employees.
Speaker 7: With a big, beautiful law and the ability to expense
Speaker 7: one hundred percent of purchases involved in new plants and
Speaker 7: new equipment. That will get the hiring machine going, and
Speaker 7: that will get the economy growing as far as the
Speaker 7: eye can say. But the Federal Reserve right now is
Speaker 7: a challenge, and I think when you look at the
Speaker 7: jobs numbers, they could be far better than they are today.
Speaker 7: That will come with another seventy five basis points worth
Speaker 7: the cuts.
Speaker 1: Dan mentioned his book, It's Rethinking Economic Growth. In fact,
Speaker 1: Dan quotes a rather prominent Cincinnatian businessman here in Cincinnati
Speaker 1: in your book, spoke to Jim Schwab right professional Palace. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and he had some real interesting comments about just where
Speaker 1: we are and where we need to go and just
Speaker 1: how we rethink everything, not just in business, but in
Speaker 1: education as well. I think we have a lot of
Speaker 1: people not to get sidetracked here on the economy we
Speaker 1: have a lot of people in this country I think
Speaker 1: that are applying old logic to where we are as
Speaker 1: a country, and education is a big reason why I
Speaker 1: think we may be slugging along here and dragging some
Speaker 1: folks along into twenty twenty six. It all be I
Speaker 1: think there was this American dream you got to go
Speaker 1: to college. You've got to go to college, you've got
Speaker 1: to get a degree, you got to get a job.
Speaker 1: And all that really happened was a lot of people
Speaker 1: that we're very young, We're just driving up debt and
Speaker 1: not getting jobs that could pay down that debt.
Speaker 2: And that was a problem on a number of different levels.
Speaker 1: But we really do need to rethink in this country
Speaker 1: where we are going with our education system, and I
Speaker 1: think your book touches on that.
Speaker 2: Could you elaborate us a little bit on.
Speaker 7: That, absolutely.
Speaker 3: So.
Speaker 7: One of the things that I learned in the book
Speaker 7: is that the thirty five small business owners that I
Speaker 7: spoke to is that we need skilled, qualified workers, and
Speaker 7: that is the biggest need that most small businesses have nowadays.
Speaker 7: But at the end of the day, when you look
Speaker 7: at the wage earning capacity of an HVAC technician, you
Speaker 7: know you're looking at six figures. When you look at electricians,
Speaker 7: you're looking at six figures. And most people don't know
Speaker 7: that you can go to school for two years and
Speaker 7: literally get hired to be a you know, do programming
Speaker 7: language tnology companies, so and the numbers, the pay gills
Speaker 7: are very impressive. And it starts with getting back into
Speaker 7: investing into vocational and technical training and education. We've got
Speaker 7: to recommit to that and invest at higher levels. The
Speaker 7: Trump administration has taken several significant steps in that direction,
Speaker 7: and I think that's highly promising. I think the other
Speaker 7: thing that's happening is I think that parents and their
Speaker 7: kids are having serious conversations around what makes sense for
Speaker 7: their kids long term career wise, because if you can't
Speaker 7: get a job after you've taken out a few hundred
Speaker 7: thousand dollars.
Speaker 3: Loans, what's the point.
Speaker 7: So I think that refocusing is happening and I'm highly
Speaker 7: encouraged by that.
Speaker 2: And I learned a lot about that in doing interviews
Speaker 2: for my book.
Speaker 1: Well, and despite the fact with the last administration did
Speaker 1: with its Department of Justice. As a parent, I think
Speaker 1: you need to get involved with your school board as
Speaker 1: to what's actually being taught, and what's actually being taught
Speaker 1: is it helping these kids when they get out of school.
Speaker 2: In other words, I think you make this point in
Speaker 2: your book as well.
Speaker 1: There's no reason why you can't have dual paths in
Speaker 1: an education system coming out of high school. And for
Speaker 1: that matter, if indeed you want to go to college
Speaker 1: and study something that isn't a trade, why not have
Speaker 1: a dual path that that trade is also taught so
Speaker 1: that it's not a stigma of well he didn't go
Speaker 1: to college, or well you know he's he's just a
Speaker 1: high school graduate. Well so what you know, why not
Speaker 1: why not be deep into what is going on with
Speaker 1: your child's education? And I you know that means showing
Speaker 1: up in school board meetings and one of these these
Speaker 1: people running for elected office to the board of education
Speaker 1: knock on your door and they want your vote, Ask
Speaker 1: them how they feel about things like that, and then
Speaker 1: hold them accountable.
Speaker 7: Yeah, home rule government is where it's at in this country.
Speaker 7: And what I love about small business is whole business
Speaker 7: really ties things together. They are the energy in every community.
Speaker 7: And one of the things that I was especially impressed
Speaker 7: with is that there are small businesses that are literally
Speaker 7: building relationships with schools and saying, will you help us
Speaker 7: get skilled trained workers, will you change your curriculum around
Speaker 7: to accommodate that, facilitate that, And in fact they are
Speaker 7: and that's really energizing. But this accountability thing for school
Speaker 7: boards is absolutely mission critical for parents. You're paying a
Speaker 7: lot of your local tax dollars to these school boards,
Speaker 7: and it's incumbent upon you to go to these meetings,
Speaker 7: look through the school budgets to see how the money
Speaker 7: is being spent, to get a full download on the
Speaker 7: curriculum and have them explain it to you. And then
Speaker 7: when you're better informed, get your friends and neighbors and
Speaker 7: relatives better informed, and then you all show up at.
Speaker 2: These meetings and you push for meaningful change.
Speaker 1: Well, Dan Veroni, I happen to think twenty twenty six
Speaker 1: is going to be a robust year just because of
Speaker 1: what has signed. What has been signed into law, one
Speaker 1: big beautiful law. Now I think a lot of people
Speaker 1: are going to be shocked. We'll see where the credit
Speaker 1: goes for it. But the fact of the matter is,
Speaker 1: listening to you, you sound like twenty twenty six could
Speaker 1: be for all economic strata, could be a robust year.
Speaker 2: Am I right about that? Or I hear you?
Speaker 7: I think you if I didn't, let me be absolutely
Speaker 7: on point about this. We are going to have a
Speaker 7: strong year. We'll get off to a good start in
Speaker 7: the first quarter, but I think quarters two through four
Speaker 7: will be very strong. I am very optimistic. When you
Speaker 7: put taxpayer money back in the hands of taxpayers, they're
Speaker 7: going to spend it. We're seventy percent consumer driven economy.
Speaker 7: That in and of itself is a good sign. Lower
Speaker 7: guess prices, more money to consumers, more money to spend.
Speaker 7: We are looking an opportunity, especially on a small business front,
Speaker 7: with tax incentives for plants and equipment. I believe that
Speaker 7: in twenty twenty six that small businesses are going to
Speaker 7: lead the way in the US economy.
Speaker 1: Well, Dan Varoni, happy twenty twenty six to you in
Speaker 1: advance again. His book is Rethinking Economic Growth is a
Speaker 1: it's a good read. It's a fun read actually, and
Speaker 1: like I say, there's a couple of Cincinnati connections in
Speaker 1: there as well. Dan, this was good stuff. Let's do
Speaker 1: it again. Can we do it again in twenty twenty six.
Speaker 1: I'll phone you up. Maybe we can do this again.
Speaker 2: Hum I'd love to I'd love to do it. Please,
Speaker 2: please do it. Let's do it right. You take care
Speaker 2: and we'll talk down the road. All right, Thank you.
Speaker 2: Have a great day.
Speaker 1: Dan Varoni again rethinking economic growth. It's I read it
Speaker 1: gosh in a day and a half. It was, and
Speaker 1: it's enlightening. And it's not one of those books where
Speaker 1: you get bogged down and numbers and things like that.
Speaker 1: It's it's just a good solid way of looking at
Speaker 1: what might be best as we look into twenty twenty six,
Speaker 1: it's coming up on twelve fifty five. We got a
Speaker 1: lot more to get to.
Speaker 2: Today.
Speaker 1: It's the average American in for the Great American. Happy
Speaker 1: day after Christmas. It's still jammed at the mall, so
Speaker 1: be careful going in there. Remember you're driving. I'm walking
Speaker 1: on seven hundred WLW. All right.
Speaker 2: As we've pressed on this, they had to Christmas.
Speaker 1: It's the average American in for the Great American on
Speaker 1: seven hundred WLW Radio.
Speaker 2: Great to have you with us. A lot to get to.
Speaker 1: As I say, between now and when we're done here
Speaker 1: in a couple of hours, I want to get into
Speaker 1: this big new thing. It's bald guys getting on airplanes
Speaker 1: and flying to Hungry Why why are a bunch of
Speaker 1: bald guys getting on planes and flying a hungry Well,
Speaker 1: apparently that is the place the destination for hair restoration.
Speaker 2: But what do you get when you go over there?
Speaker 1: I mean, you could literally get some dude put in
Speaker 1: plugs in your hair, and right next door it could
Speaker 1: be you know, not next door, but in the same room,
Speaker 1: could be somebody doing nails, and then next to them
Speaker 1: it could.
Speaker 2: Be like a you know, like a subway station.
Speaker 1: So I want to get into what I want to
Speaker 1: get into what this is all about, because apparently the
Speaker 1: world's greatest hair transplant surgeon is now living in the
Speaker 1: United States.
Speaker 2: Who knew? You don't have to get on a plane, You.
Speaker 1: Don't have to play halfway around the world or Hungry
Speaker 1: or Turkey or someplace like that. But I want to
Speaker 1: find out why this guy is the world's greatest transplant
Speaker 1: in the world, the world's greatest hair transplant doctor, and.
Speaker 2: He lives right here in the United States.
Speaker 1: So if you see a bunch of bald guys getting
Speaker 1: on a plane and they're flying east, you might want
Speaker 1: to flag them down and say, look, all you to
Speaker 1: get you know, guy in Florida can help you out.
Speaker 1: We'll talk to him coming up in just a little bit.
Speaker 1: How much it really costs to get your hair restored
Speaker 1: in this day and age. I thought you just kind
Speaker 1: of like pop some pills, right, That's what they would
Speaker 1: have you believe on TV. You just pop a few
Speaker 1: pills pro pisha something like that.
Speaker 2: Apparently not. I don't know.
Speaker 1: There are a lot of things wrong with me, but
Speaker 1: the one thing I got going for me, I got
Speaker 1: a nice head of hair. So I watched some of
Speaker 1: these NFL games yesterday, and man, Netflix, they they just
Speaker 1: need to stick with movies and documentaries a little rough
Speaker 1: to coverage. Yesterday, Dallas won by seven over Washington in
Speaker 1: a meaningless game. Detroit got knocked out of the playoffs
Speaker 1: by Minnesota. Detroit looked like they wanted to be anywhere
Speaker 1: but Minneapolis. And then you had Denver beating Kansas City.
Speaker 1: Kansas City is a shell of what it is. They
Speaker 1: were on a third string quarterback. Andy Reid did manage
Speaker 1: to squeeze thirteen points out of that offense, but Denver
Speaker 1: twenty to thirteen. Do you think the Bengals have some
Speaker 1: trouble trying to figure things out for twenty twenty six.
Speaker 1: I mean the Chiefs are their defense is aging. The
Speaker 1: quarterback is having ACL surgery, the backup quarterback is having
Speaker 1: ACL surgery. Travis Kelcey is running off to be I
Speaker 1: guess Taylor Swift's roadie. They got to rebuild that entire team.
Speaker 1: One thing Kansas City though very well. What they do
Speaker 1: is they spend money wisely, they seem to find dudes.
Speaker 1: So I was alarmed to hear this over the weekend.
Speaker 1: I don't know whether you heard this or not, but
Speaker 1: there is a there is a scam going on. It's
Speaker 1: called squishing, and it's not SQI, SSI and G. It's
Speaker 1: spelled QUI, SSI and G squishing. And I'm sure you've
Speaker 1: seen these QR codes. Might see a QR code on
Speaker 1: your television, whether it's a commercial or a charge, hold
Speaker 1: your phone up to here and now we'll get bring
Speaker 1: all the details. Or you might go into a restaurant
Speaker 1: and the menu might be on a QR code that's
Speaker 1: plastered on the table, so they want you to hold
Speaker 1: the phone over the QR code and then up pops
Speaker 1: the menu. Well, apparently there is now a big deal
Speaker 1: about quishing, which is scanning a restaurant menu or scanning
Speaker 1: any QR code, and then the nefarious people in this
Speaker 1: world have figured out a way to bastardize that particular
Speaker 1: code and steal your private information. So something that was
Speaker 1: viewed or is viewed as a convenience now could be
Speaker 1: a problem the next time you try it. So what
Speaker 1: is quishing? And why did these guys, Why do guys
Speaker 1: or there could be women for all I know, why
Speaker 1: do they come up with these ideas that I guess
Speaker 1: baffle the smart guys in this country when it comes
Speaker 1: to security, When it comes to security. So I got
Speaker 1: Damien Fortune standing by. He's online too. I've had Dabien
Speaker 1: with me many times before. He's a cybersecurity expert, knows
Speaker 1: all about these QR codes. He's CEO of Centrics, which
Speaker 1: is a global leader in secure communication solutions. What better
Speaker 1: person to have on than Damien Fortune on this this
Speaker 1: thing that I just said, Wow, you're not even safe
Speaker 1: going into a restaurant anymore.
Speaker 2: Damien Fortune, how are you on this glorious day? I'm
Speaker 2: doing well, Ken? How about you? So I'm good?
Speaker 1: But I don't know what squishing is? What is squishing?
Speaker 1: Just to find the term squishing for us please.
Speaker 8: Yeah, So, if you've heard of fishing before, this is
Speaker 8: just another kind of variety of a predatory cyber attack.
Speaker 8: This time it's leveraging those QR codes that you see
Speaker 8: posted everywhere, whether it's you at a restaurant, on your
Speaker 8: light bill or you know kind of just distributed around
Speaker 8: town on posters and things like that. And essentially the
Speaker 8: attack is one where they expect folks to you know,
Speaker 8: scan that code with the phone and then they're taken
Speaker 8: to a website that you know, sometimes looks exactly like
Speaker 8: their utility website or a restaurant's menu page or a
Speaker 8: checkout page. And the idea there is to get you
Speaker 8: to put in either your private or personal information or
Speaker 8: to actually put in a payment method, and then to
Speaker 8: actually take money from you.
Speaker 1: Well, this is interesting if I see a secure code. Now,
Speaker 1: a lot of times you'll you'll watch television and they'll say,
Speaker 1: get more information on the product here, or if you're
Speaker 1: watching the show that's trying to raise money for a charity,
Speaker 1: you'll say, just put your phone up to the QR
Speaker 1: code and it'll take your right to where you can
Speaker 1: make your donation. I guess my question is, how can
Speaker 1: that QR code that may be a scam, a phoney,
Speaker 1: how can that replicate what a particular restaurant or charity
Speaker 1: or shopping place, whatever it may be.
Speaker 2: How can they do that?
Speaker 8: Yeah, so a lot of times these bad guys are
Speaker 8: now doing the research right, So they'll go to the
Speaker 8: restaurant and they'll look up the website or the menu
Speaker 8: page of the website, or they'll actually go to the
Speaker 8: charity's website and make.
Speaker 2: A copy of it.
Speaker 8: Essentially that has a slightly different web address, but it
Speaker 8: looks close enough that if you weren't looking too carefully,
Speaker 8: you feel like, oh, okay, this is a this is
Speaker 8: a legit.
Speaker 2: This is where she's putting in FRAN information or making
Speaker 2: that donation.
Speaker 1: Okay, so they're out there, they're smartt they're doing this. Well,
Speaker 1: then why can't the establishment change it?
Speaker 3: Then?
Speaker 2: I mean, is it just one of those things, Hey,
Speaker 2: you know, change it. We'll get you again. Why.
Speaker 1: I mean, the establishment would have to know if somebody
Speaker 1: got burned trying to look at a menu at a
Speaker 1: restaurant on a QR code, My guess is I would
Speaker 1: immediately call not only my bank, but I would also
Speaker 1: call a restaurant.
Speaker 8: Yeah, absolutely, And you know, there's always this kind of
Speaker 8: circular race that goes on there where you can alert
Speaker 8: folks that this is happening. But a lot of times
Speaker 8: that bad guys are going so far as to a
Speaker 8: lot of restaurants now, for example, have those QR codes
Speaker 8: posted either on a little standing thing on the table
Speaker 8: or they actually have it as a sticker on the table,
Speaker 8: so they may not even be sure which of those
Speaker 8: stickers have been replaced. It's kind of like the old
Speaker 8: ATM card skimming thing from back in the day where
Speaker 8: they would insert of a device in and and scrape
Speaker 8: your card that way.
Speaker 2: It's the same kind of idea. Folks are just putting
Speaker 2: stickers on top.
Speaker 8: Of stickers basically, So then you'd have to have someone
Speaker 8: in the restaurant going around to every table trying to
Speaker 8: figure out which one of these QR codes isn't like
Speaker 8: the other. Then, as you can imagine, right, that's a
Speaker 8: pretty tough thing to.
Speaker 1: Do with the Yeah, I mean, I mean, I get
Speaker 1: the mechanism, and I understand that there are people out
Speaker 1: there that want to do nefarious things like this, but
Speaker 1: it would seem to me that this is a tool
Speaker 1: of convenience, and maybe it shouldn't be used anywhere until
Speaker 1: they can lasso this thing. I mean, because you really
Speaker 1: don't know, you might think, oh, oh, okay, well, this
Speaker 1: is a legitimate business. I don't have to worry about
Speaker 1: it here. I mean, it would sound to me like
Speaker 1: the smart business play here is to just simply not
Speaker 1: use these QR codes.
Speaker 8: Yeah, and a lot of folks actually have because of
Speaker 8: issues like this, moved away from it or have changed
Speaker 8: the way that they do things.
Speaker 2: In some cases.
Speaker 8: Now the QR codes are kind of behind some sort
Speaker 8: of area, right, so they're under the varnish on the
Speaker 8: top of the tabletop, or the waiter will bring the
Speaker 8: QR code to you once you finish your meal, so
Speaker 8: you can scan and pay that way, to kind of
Speaker 8: leave the QR code less exposed for folks to come
Speaker 8: in and tamper with it in some way.
Speaker 1: I was always led to believe that these kinds of
Speaker 1: things more often than not happen to let's call them elderly,
Speaker 1: maybe the sixty plus seventy plus crowd. But I think
Speaker 1: anymore it's probably all demographics get caught in this, don't they.
Speaker 8: Yeah, absolutely, I mean more and more we're making this
Speaker 8: trade off of convenience and security, and as we move
Speaker 8: more towards, you know, being able to pay your bill
Speaker 8: without you and interacting with the waiter anymore through one
Speaker 8: of these QR codes, we're going to see more and
Speaker 8: more of this stuff. And there's always this cycle of
Speaker 8: the cyber folks like myself trying to come in and
Speaker 8: help catch up and find ways to at least throw
Speaker 8: a wrench in the bad guy's operation to keep folks
Speaker 8: safe for at least at least a little bit more
Speaker 8: than they are currently.
Speaker 1: Okay, that's an interesting exit ramp. Okay, let's say I
Speaker 1: get scammed. Let's say I go to a restaurant, I
Speaker 1: scan the QR code and the next thing I know,
Speaker 1: my information is out there. I don't know how it
Speaker 1: got out there, why I got out there. A would
Speaker 1: if I contracted with Damian Fortune in this company, would
Speaker 1: they be able to track back where that scam occurred.
Speaker 2: We have partners that do exactly that sort of thing.
Speaker 8: We focus more on the communication side, but yeah, there's
Speaker 8: lots of folks out there that do these kind of
Speaker 8: scam track backs. Now, they obviously worked with your bank
Speaker 8: and can help you at least recover the money and
Speaker 8: hopefully work with law enforcement to get those folks shut down.
Speaker 1: And conversely, you would probably be able to scam it,
Speaker 1: or not scam it, but play it forward and find
Speaker 1: out not just necessarily how I got scammed, what restaurant
Speaker 1: or some place else I fell a victim to this squishing,
Speaker 1: but you'd be able to probably then begin a pathway
Speaker 1: to the people who are actually doing it. Am I
Speaker 1: am I too far ahead of technology here.
Speaker 2: No, I mean I think that's exactly right.
Speaker 8: Thing about the QR code thing is that it's a
Speaker 8: physical installation most of the time. So you know, this
Speaker 8: isn't necessarily fighting the enemy, the unseen enemy on the
Speaker 8: other side of the planet.
Speaker 2: Right That's that's putting up a fake website or.
Speaker 8: Send you an email of the bad linked if this
Speaker 8: is a person that actually had to come into that restaurant,
Speaker 8: for example, and put that sticker somewhere. So those folks
Speaker 8: are local and therefore you know, a subject to the
Speaker 8: jurisdiction law, law enforcement and that sort of thing. So
Speaker 8: there are there is actually a recourse for this particular
Speaker 8: scam where you can actually get at the folks that
Speaker 8: are that are doing the scamming.
Speaker 1: So I and again I'm guessing here and correctly if
Speaker 1: I'm wrong. But QR codes were built as a way
Speaker 1: of convenience. They weren't built by way of security. So
Speaker 1: I'm just I'm wondering why would somebody use Why would
Speaker 1: somebody make one of these things in the first place?
Speaker 1: If you have to take a device which can be
Speaker 1: compromised so easily and then put it on this code
Speaker 1: that wasn't built with security in mind, who thought that
Speaker 1: was a good idea?
Speaker 8: Like all things, it starts with that convenience factor. You know,
Speaker 8: there's a we go to movies now and we can
Speaker 8: buy tickets.
Speaker 9: With scanning a QR code.
Speaker 2: We can order food at restaurants and pay for it
Speaker 2: with scanning those QR code. So there's this. There's always
Speaker 2: that force in the.
Speaker 8: Economy to say, well I can I can pull costs
Speaker 8: out of the system by using this, and unfortunately a
Speaker 8: lot of times the security is left holding the bag
Speaker 8: when those compromises are made.
Speaker 1: Damian Fortune our guest. He's a cybersecurity expert. His company
Speaker 1: is Centric Centric state of the art security platform which
Speaker 1: I'm told here is designed to protect the integrity of
Speaker 1: group communications in real time? Group communications in real time?
Speaker 1: Will that be like those chat groups that businesses have
Speaker 1: or like inter company communication?
Speaker 2: Is that what that's all about?
Speaker 8: Yeah, that's exactly right. I think of us like an
Speaker 8: ultra secure version of teams or Slack.
Speaker 1: So when I guess that encrypted invitation that was sent
Speaker 1: out by the Department of Defense and Department of War
Speaker 1: back in the winter time, if they had tracted with
Speaker 1: cybersecurity expert Damian Fortune, it would never become a problem.
Speaker 2: That's the idea.
Speaker 1: Yeah, is anything safe on the Internet anymore? With with
Speaker 1: when dealing with personal information, shopping on the Internet with
Speaker 1: a credit card, U conducting business of any kind involving
Speaker 1: money or personal information on the on the Internet. I know,
Speaker 1: I see HTTP and http S. The S is supposed
Speaker 1: to stand for security and it would make the transaction
Speaker 1: above board and nobody can hack it. But really and truly,
Speaker 1: there's a risk every time you go on the Internet
Speaker 1: to try and conduct business, isn't there?
Speaker 2: Absolutely right? I mean, the speed at the enemy in
Speaker 2: this case.
Speaker 8: Is so a lot of times you just have to
Speaker 8: take that extra second to make sure that the website
Speaker 8: that you're sending information through is which are backed by
Speaker 8: a company that has the resources in place to protect
Speaker 8: you those sorts of things.
Speaker 2: Even with those QR code that we were.
Speaker 8: Talking about a moment ago, your phone actually give you
Speaker 8: a preview of the website that they're going to send
Speaker 8: you to by scanning it. If you hold the camera
Speaker 8: over the code to see a little yellow box pop
Speaker 8: up that gives you a.
Speaker 2: Little bit of the URL. There's little things like that.
Speaker 8: I can take that extra second before you click on it,
Speaker 8: and you can say, maybe that doesn't look exactly right,
Speaker 8: Maybe I should slack my waiter and ask if this
Speaker 8: is a legitimate thing or not.
Speaker 1: I was always told, or I always thought, Damien, that
Speaker 1: you know, most of this stuff that goes on, this
Speaker 1: nefarious stuff, was being done by you know, a bunch
Speaker 1: of people in a basement in Bulgaria. But anymore, it
Speaker 1: seems like that a lot of this stuff is being conducted,
Speaker 1: not all of it, certainly, but right here in our country.
Speaker 1: People that would go to one of the top technical universities,
Speaker 1: mit wherever it might be, and decide, you know, I
Speaker 1: want to get into this line of work, ripping people
Speaker 1: off and using my intelligence for things that might benefit mankind.
Speaker 1: I think a lot of this occurs right here in
Speaker 1: the United States, doesn't It absolutely.
Speaker 8: Unfortunately, a lot of those brilliant folks figured out that
Speaker 8: instead of actually committing the crimes and bearing their sells,
Speaker 8: they could make just as much money selling the tool
Speaker 8: So a lot of places on the Internet now you
Speaker 8: can go and actually download hacking toolkits or information stealing
Speaker 8: toolkits that you pay a subscription fee for and you
Speaker 8: get all of the tools you need to generate theparious
Speaker 8: QR codes or steal people's information from the emails and
Speaker 8: these sorts of things. So the economy, unfortunately has evolved
Speaker 8: on the dark side, and that's led up to a
Speaker 8: lot of you know, essentially cottage industry here in the
Speaker 8: US for hacking and information test.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I am just after reading about it, I'm just
Speaker 1: not going to do it. I mean it just again, convenience,
Speaker 1: I suppose is the most important thing here for a
Speaker 1: lot of Americans. But I mean just step back and
Speaker 1: you think, wait a minute, I've got this device, it's portable,
Speaker 1: it's easily hackable, even with some of the best security
Speaker 1: stuff on it, whatever it may be. I just I
Speaker 1: think I think I'm just going to back off from
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Speaker 1: should I? Should I keep doing it?
Speaker 3: With?
Speaker 2: What should I need? Help? Damien? What should I do?
Speaker 7: Well?
Speaker 8: It's a cyberperson. That's my responsibility to tell you to
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Speaker 2: Right, protect yourself at all.
Speaker 1: Done Here you go, Damien, Thanks for your time here,
Speaker 1: good stuff, Stay well and happy New Year.
Speaker 2: Thanks so much. Ken, you too, you bet so. The
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Speaker 1: It is one twenty seven on this day after Christmas.
Speaker 1: It's the average American in for the Great Americans. Seven
Speaker 1: hundred WLWS Radio, seven hundred WLW, the average American in
Speaker 1: for the Great American on this day after Christmas. Gloom
Speaker 1: me outside. But that's all right. It's gonna be that
Speaker 1: way all week and then it's gonna get cold. That's
Speaker 1: the way we like it here in Cincinnati. That's why
Speaker 1: we live here. I just sard Jack Crumley at one
Speaker 1: point thirty talk about the players strike that is imminent
Speaker 1: now in the East Coast Hockey League ECHL and the
Speaker 1: Cyclones game has been canceled tonight. That's happening all over now.
Speaker 1: I'm just seeing that the games in Fort Wayne and Greensboro,
Speaker 1: they're all being canceled as the Players Union is at
Speaker 1: odds over a collective bargaining agreement with the ECHL, which
Speaker 1: is in actuality in arm of the NHL. These players
Speaker 1: they make about I don't know, like five fifties six
Speaker 1: hundred a week. Six hundred might be a little high.
Speaker 1: They average about twenty grand a year because you don't
Speaker 1: get paid in the summer. There's no ice in the summer.
Speaker 1: They get their housing paid for, and they get their
Speaker 1: medical benefits paid for in season, not year round. So
Speaker 1: if this this strike goes on for a while, you know,
Speaker 1: the league just say, hey, we're going to pull all
Speaker 1: that stuff from me. But last night, Christmas night, the
Speaker 1: ECHL received a or the I should say, the ECHL
Speaker 1: delivered to the players Union its last best final offer,
Speaker 1: and the last best final offer from what I'm reading here,
Speaker 1: is that there would be an additional salary cap for
Speaker 1: future years. There would be a retroactive salary cap for
Speaker 1: this year, which is about twenty percent of an increase
Speaker 1: on what the cap is this year for teams, and
Speaker 1: it says the EHL will continue to cover one hundred
Speaker 1: percent of the player costs for fully funded housing, utility,
Speaker 1: internet costs, medical and debt hoo benefits, but only for
Speaker 1: the season, only for the five or six months they play.
Speaker 1: After that, they're they're on their own. So if you're
Speaker 1: a Psycolones fan, stay tuned, because it looks like this
Speaker 1: thing is it.
Speaker 2: Might it might go on for a while. How about
Speaker 2: this one?
Speaker 1: According to multiple reports, and that would mean reports from
Speaker 1: all over the place, misinformation on social media about mental
Speaker 1: health is becoming a crisis. More than half of all
Speaker 1: top trending videos offering mental health advice on TikTok contain misinformation. Wait, stop,
Speaker 1: stop the presses. There's misinformation on the internet. People looking
Speaker 1: for quick fixed solutions to what Alvin Forbes says, Clinicians
Speaker 1: are seeing a spike in self diagnoses and self prescribed
Speaker 1: protocols sourced from short videos and influencer threads on tick talk.
Speaker 2: But I thought TikTok was my friend.
Speaker 1: Lee Richardson has found a place called the Brain Performance Center.
Speaker 1: And she is a consultant, and she is a doctor.
Speaker 1: Great note, and she is the author of the book
Speaker 1: Turn Your Brain On to get Your game on the
Speaker 1: how What Why to peak performance. I've had Lee on
Speaker 1: the show several times because I likely number one, number two.
Speaker 1: She speaks the truth when it comes to all things
Speaker 1: involving the brain. TikTok for mental crises. That's where you're going.
Speaker 2: Better. You should listen now, Lee Richardson, how are you
Speaker 2: in this glorious day? I'm doing very well. Thanks for
Speaker 2: having me.
Speaker 1: I used to call you Lee, but now I call
Speaker 1: you doctor because I think anybody that put that much
Speaker 1: work into getting a doctorate deserves to be called doctor.
Speaker 2: Does that make sense?
Speaker 4: Well, thank you so much for that recognition.
Speaker 1: Well, good for you, and good good for the folks
Speaker 1: that taught you. Look, I saw this, and there are
Speaker 1: a lot of reasons to not like social media. This
Speaker 1: is just added to the list that it may go
Speaker 1: to the top of the list. Is that increasingly, more
Speaker 1: and more, particularly younger people are turning to places like
Speaker 1: TikTok to figure out what might be wrong with them
Speaker 1: from a mental state. And I'm thinking to myself, well, yeah,
Speaker 1: there probably is something wrong with you mentally. If you're
Speaker 1: getting advice on TikTok This has got to be concerning
Speaker 1: to a professional like you.
Speaker 10: Absolutely and TikTok, whether it's TikTok or Instagram or Facebook,
Speaker 10: it's so easy. Social media penetrates so many lines, and
Speaker 10: for many people it's their first stop for mental or health.
Speaker 3: And mental health.
Speaker 1: Nobody wants to hear bad news, no matter what it is.
Speaker 1: But when it comes to your health, you don't really
Speaker 1: want to hear bad news. And I think most people
Speaker 1: know that there's something wrong with them, and so I
Speaker 1: mean physically wrong with them before they even go to
Speaker 1: see a doctor.
Speaker 2: You can feel it.
Speaker 1: You just know, and I would guess from a mental
Speaker 1: outlook that you would know too that maybe something isn't
Speaker 1: quite right. So to avoid going to a doctor, you
Speaker 1: probably turned to other means. It's a quick, fixed mentality.
Speaker 1: That's the way to find out what's wrong with you
Speaker 1: without actually having a human being tell you there's something
Speaker 1: that's wrong with you.
Speaker 2: Does that make sense? Well, I mean this is when
Speaker 2: you think about it.
Speaker 10: When the World Health Organization declares that we are in
Speaker 10: a state and phodemic, there's just too much information. It's false,
Speaker 10: it's misleading, it makes its cross of confusion. It causes
Speaker 10: people to take risky behavior and these things can can
Speaker 10: harm you. But I think we have to stop and
Speaker 10: recognize that we've now kids are taught how to use
Speaker 10: AI in school, and we're coming out of the aftermath
Speaker 10: of the pandemic, or that for many people during the pandemic,
Speaker 10: all they had was social media, and so I think
Speaker 10: that that has kind of about made it more valid
Speaker 10: in our heads.
Speaker 9: Oh, I've used to.
Speaker 10: Years and sometimes perhaps you do get some good information.
Speaker 10: But I think if people will just slow down, you know,
Speaker 10: you put something in there and you go to social
Speaker 10: media and you see it, and instead of automatically reacting
Speaker 10: to it, think ask yourself, is that is that right?
Speaker 10: I mean, it's really easy. Go go to Google scholar
Speaker 10: and put a question in and it'll find research that
Speaker 10: will support it. And if you can't find anything that
Speaker 10: supports it, you know. I think another big issue can
Speaker 10: is you know, we always find what we're looking for,
Speaker 10: and we do, and if we're looking for something to
Speaker 10: support what we already believe, that's called a confirmation bias.
Speaker 2: Of course we're going to run with it. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I refer to that as people want affirmation,
Speaker 1: they don't necessarily want information and so if you can
Speaker 1: go some that affirms what you think or what you've heard,
Speaker 1: that's exactly right. But I just I guess the thing
Speaker 1: that concerned me the most is if you think you
Speaker 1: have something wrong with you, you probably do.
Speaker 2: And Emily on.
Speaker 1: TikTok or you know, Bob on TikTok is not going
Speaker 1: to be able to help you through what's wrong with you.
Speaker 1: A licensed professional also known as a doctor is going
Speaker 1: to help you through.
Speaker 2: Through with it. Am I right?
Speaker 10: You are right? And anytime I hear a one size
Speaker 10: fits all, now it doesn't. There's not a one size
Speaker 10: because everybody reacts to what's going on to their life differently.
Speaker 10: The genetics come into play, stress comes into play. The
Speaker 10: only time I hear one size fits all, I start
Speaker 10: backing up. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, There's so many things I want to get to
Speaker 1: with you today, but that in particular, and I think
Speaker 1: the headline that we've just been talking about is if
Speaker 1: you know, go see somebody. If you can't afford to
Speaker 1: go see somebody, there are ways that you can get
Speaker 1: medical help and they'll work with you. But the other
Speaker 1: thing that struck me here too is that the amount
Speaker 1: of stress, the amount of mental health concerns that are
Speaker 1: going on, particularly on the job, have risen dramatically here
Speaker 1: according to this report I see from comsych I don't
Speaker 1: know Compsyke, you probably know it, but mental health leave
Speaker 1: is up three hundred percent in a very recent time period.
Speaker 1: What's going on with mental health health leave at work?
Speaker 1: Why is work so stressful today, maybe than what it
Speaker 1: was even five years ago.
Speaker 4: Well, I think a big part of it is is
Speaker 4: there's no psychological.
Speaker 3: Safety at work.
Speaker 10: People, you know, they are being forced to come back
Speaker 10: to the office, and that they liked working from home
Speaker 10: and they felt safe in their home. They didn't have
Speaker 10: to deal with traffic, they didn't have to deal with
Speaker 10: running into after work, and really they don't feel safe
Speaker 10: at work.
Speaker 2: They feel like that and part of that.
Speaker 10: One out of five of us can is suffering from
Speaker 10: either anxiety or depression, and sometimes both. So I think
Speaker 10: that when we're stressed out, we were in an overreactive mode.
Speaker 10: We react to everything instead of hitting the pause button
Speaker 10: and thinking it through. And I think that there is
Speaker 10: help for people. But if your manager or your supervisor,
Speaker 10: you know, struggles with anxiety or depression, you don't feel
Speaker 10: comfortable going to that person, and if you're the manager
Speaker 10: or the supervisor. And I saw a survey that NAMMY,
Speaker 10: the National Alliance of Mental Illness, put out, and they
Speaker 10: said forty two percent of the managers knew that their
Speaker 10: workers needed help with mental health, but.
Speaker 2: They didn't know how to do it.
Speaker 10: And as an organization that something, employee well being is
Speaker 10: something that's got to be factored in to their strategy.
Speaker 1: One out of go back to your beginning of your answer.
Speaker 1: One out of five people, that's twenty percent and are
Speaker 1: suffering from anxiety or stress.
Speaker 2: It's a significant number. Has it always? Has it always
Speaker 2: been that way?
Speaker 1: Or and nobody paid attention to it because my guess
Speaker 1: is is that the stress is that this current group,
Speaker 1: let's just say, from millennials younger, that's that they're experiencing.
Speaker 1: My guess is those same stressors existed for people that
Speaker 1: are boomers or whatever the next group was. It had
Speaker 1: to have been there in the past. Did we just
Speaker 1: ignore it?
Speaker 3: Well?
Speaker 10: I think that we did ignore it to some degree
Speaker 10: because we were too ashamed to talk about it. The
Speaker 10: stigma associated was huge. And Kim, when I first started
Speaker 10: working in the brain world back in two thousand and
Speaker 10: five and up state myself here, But we used to
Speaker 10: talk about mental health and I would say, oh, my sense,
Speaker 10: you've got some depression.
Speaker 2: Oh no, no, I'm fine.
Speaker 10: And when I in two thousand and nine, when I
Speaker 10: opened the Brain Performance Center, I decided, I'm not using
Speaker 10: that language anymore. I'm not talking mental health because it's lonely,
Speaker 10: nobody wants to talk about it. And I switched my
Speaker 10: language to brain help. And I got a lot more
Speaker 10: conversation out of that because that and put it into
Speaker 10: context of the brain is an organ, just like your heart.
Speaker 10: And if we think there's something wrong with our heart,
Speaker 10: it doesn't paint more than a day to get an
Speaker 10: appointment with a cardiologist. But if we wake up and
Speaker 10: we just feel too overwhelmed to go to work or
Speaker 10: it's just too fatigue, we don't think, oh my brain,
Speaker 10: it's an organ it needs care. We just have nasty
Speaker 10: conversations with ourselves. Come on, man power through, suck it up,
Speaker 10: butter up, yep. And that is we're not reacting in
Speaker 10: the right way. And brain health has evolved in my mind.
Speaker 10: In twenty twenty one, when I opened the Brain Performance Institute,
Speaker 10: I started talking about brain capital because the biggest asset
Speaker 10: any of us.
Speaker 2: Have is our brain.
Speaker 1: Gee is the author of the book Turn Your Brain
Speaker 1: On to Get Your game on? The How What Why
Speaker 1: to peak performance? Doctor Lee Richardson is always great having
Speaker 1: me on. You stay well, We need to hear your voice.
Speaker 2: Okay, thank you, kem Yeah, you bet. You know it's
Speaker 2: the core of all This is me anecdotally. I'm not
Speaker 2: a doctor, don't pretend to be one.
Speaker 1: I think sleep issues, I think those are are largely
Speaker 1: to blame for a lot of what goes on inside
Speaker 1: the rest of our body.
Speaker 2: Seventy million people have sleep issues.
Speaker 1: I didn't know that until I actually looked it up
Speaker 1: and then I saw this from the Mayo Clinic forty
Speaker 1: percent increase if you have sleep issues, There was a
Speaker 1: forty There was a forty percent increase according to the
Speaker 1: Mayo Clinic Clinic for risk of dementia, equivalent to about
Speaker 1: three and a half years of accelerated brain aging. And
Speaker 1: then insomnia leads to other things like high blood pressure,
Speaker 1: heart disease, stroke, obesity, type two diabetes. If you have
Speaker 1: trouble sleeping, get some get some help for that, because
Speaker 1: the fact of the matter is it could really turn
Speaker 1: your upside down. And then it makes you so crazy
Speaker 1: you go to TikTok for advice. It's coming up on
Speaker 1: one fifty five. Why are so many bald guys getting
Speaker 1: on airplanes and flying to Turkey and hungry?
Speaker 2: We'll deal with that next on seven hundred WLW. All right,
Speaker 2: here we go, Here we go, Oh, here we go.
Speaker 1: The average American in for the great American on this Friday,
Speaker 1: two ten in the afternoon here in Greater Cincinnati. However
Speaker 1: you're listening, whether it's through this great medium of terrestrial
Speaker 1: radio or on the iHeartRadio app. However, you're consuming this
Speaker 1: fifty thousand watt mother flamethrower WLWWI welcome you in. We
Speaker 1: got bowl games today. You know these ball games. I mean,
Speaker 1: I love college football, But what am I watching? Watching uniforms.
Speaker 1: A lot of players don't show up, They go into
Speaker 1: the paral, they declare for the draft. Miami had a
Speaker 1: quarterback quit in the middle of the season, So I'm
Speaker 1: not sure what I'm watching. Maybe some players that'll be
Speaker 1: something down the road or whatever. But I mean, we've
Speaker 1: got the game above Sports Bowl. Well wait a minute,
Speaker 1: let's think about this. We're watching the game above Sports Bowl, right,
Speaker 1: But it's sports that we're watching, so I'm not sure
Speaker 1: about that anyway. It is Central Michigan in Northwestern Northwestern
Speaker 1: with a fourteen to nothing lead in the second quarter,
Speaker 1: and then later on tonight like four point thirty. We
Speaker 1: got more bowl games. We've got four point thirty tonight.
Speaker 1: We have the Rate Bowl New Mexico against Minnesota that's
Speaker 1: in Phoenix, and then the Serve Pro First Responders Bowl
Speaker 1: Florida International against the University of Texas San Antonio. Oh
Speaker 1: be still my beating heart. I'm going to be front
Speaker 1: and center for that one. That's a Gerald J. Ford
Speaker 1: Stadium in Dallas, Texas. So that's all that's going on. Oh.
Speaker 1: By the way, Ohio University has found a coach. It's
Speaker 1: their defensive coordinator. They elevated him, John Howser. He replaces
Speaker 1: Brian Smith, who was fired for cause after allegations of
Speaker 1: quote unquote serious professional misconduct romantic relationship with a student.
Speaker 1: I'm shucked that that's going on at Ohio University. Why
Speaker 1: are so many bald guys getting on airplanes and heading
Speaker 1: across the seas to Turkey. Well, I'm telling you why.
Speaker 1: Hair restoration is booming globally. But Turkey has become a
Speaker 1: major hotspot because it offers top tier procedures for around
Speaker 1: four thousand dollars. Here in the United States, you're looking
Speaker 1: to get some plugs twelve grand. So that makes traveling
Speaker 1: abroad appealing. And that's where a lot of guys go
Speaker 1: when they want to, you know, recapture the rapture when
Speaker 1: it comes to their follicles. But there is a more
Speaker 1: sane alternative, and standing by is someone who offers it.
Speaker 1: Doctor Brett Bolton is the founder of Great Hair Transplants
Speaker 1: and creator of the Max Harvest, and he is widely
Speaker 1: believed to be the number one hair transplant surgeon in
Speaker 1: the world. In fact, the World's Greatest tell Vision Show
Speaker 1: named him the greatest hair transplant surgeon in the entire world.
Speaker 1: So if you're boarding a plane anytime soon to go
Speaker 1: to Turkey or Hungry or any place in between, stop,
Speaker 1: do not proceed to go. Listen to doctor Bret Bolton.
Speaker 1: Doctor Bolton, how are you in this glorious Friday after Christmas?
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, what a great introduction.
Speaker 9: Thank you so much. I'm very appreciative of that introduction.
Speaker 2: I'm doing great.
Speaker 9: Thank you.
Speaker 2: I'm glad you are.
Speaker 1: Let let's just talk about hair restoration. I mean, I
Speaker 1: see a lot of ball guys. Okay, see the guys
Speaker 1: that are let's just say, folliclely challenged that are walking
Speaker 1: around and I think they've given up. They just shaved
Speaker 1: the old head because of receding hairlines that have gone
Speaker 1: awry and whatnot. But before we get into why you
Speaker 1: are so great and why you don't have to go
Speaker 1: halfway around the world to get your hair back, just
Speaker 1: how difficult a process is hair restoration? I mean, is
Speaker 1: it involved? I'm sure it's not one stop and your cured.
Speaker 1: But how involved is the process?
Speaker 9: Well, it's great question you're asking, and that the answer
Speaker 9: is it can be extremely involved or can not be
Speaker 9: because many patients have different stages of hair loss. So
Speaker 9: dependent upon the stage of hair loss, you have determines
Speaker 9: how much of a challenge it may be to restore it.
Speaker 9: But step one ways in the process is trying to
Speaker 9: keep the patients on some form of preventative treatment. We
Speaker 9: fortunately have two FDA approved preventive treatments that exist, the
Speaker 9: first one being Propecia, which is the brand name. The
Speaker 9: ingredient is an asteride and that's a pill and you
Speaker 9: take one pill and that helps to stop the genetic
Speaker 9: reason we're losing our hair. So that stops the testostrome
Speaker 9: from diverting into the dihydro testosterone. That's what's causing a
Speaker 9: mucacy secretion called the sebum to build up. That sebum
Speaker 9: build up will that miniaturize the hair follicle and keep
Speaker 9: it from making its way through, So that propecia is
Speaker 9: directly stopping that conversion, and that helps to keep what
Speaker 9: we have in place. The second ft airproof treatment is
Speaker 9: called Rogain, which I know you know about bentofis the seventies.
Speaker 9: That's another great product. However, that's applied twice a day. Topically,
Speaker 9: it's a vasodia lator, so it opens up the plug assels.
Speaker 9: It allows more minerals and nutrients and oxygen to get
Speaker 9: where it needs to go to make a better environment
Speaker 9: for those ministrized hairs to make their way through. So
Speaker 9: if you have extensive hair loss, you know what, we
Speaker 9: always recommend more than one procedure because it's a large
Speaker 9: surface area, whereas if you might have a smaller area
Speaker 9: that just needs to be filled in, you might get
Speaker 9: away with one, dependent upon the stage you're at. And
Speaker 9: whether or not you're on these preventive treatments.
Speaker 1: But if you're completely bald, you've got it through the plugs, right,
Speaker 1: I mean, taking finesteride is great. A lot of people,
Speaker 1: a lot of men take finesteride because of an enlarged
Speaker 1: prostate rogain. I mean, it's great if you're just snitning.
Speaker 1: But if you're you know, if you're somebody that that
Speaker 1: it's all gone, you got to get into the drugs
Speaker 1: at that point, don't you.
Speaker 2: You're exactly right.
Speaker 9: But even though even though you're lost most of your hair,
Speaker 9: we still need to secure what's left because so for example,
Speaker 9: let's say I, you know, restore the top of your
Speaker 9: head and then on the side it drops down, so
Speaker 9: then you create this like alley around the transplanted area,
Speaker 9: so you're chasing the laws. So whether you're bald or not,
Speaker 9: it's always recommended you do the treatments so we don't
Speaker 9: have a moving target because it just makes it easier
Speaker 9: to get you to finish line. Those products do not
Speaker 9: grow hair. That's one of the biggest misconceptions. People think, oh,
Speaker 9: I'll get my hair back.
Speaker 2: No you don't.
Speaker 9: You're just using those to help protect whatever you can,
Speaker 9: and you still can lose more hair. So in the
Speaker 9: case you're talking about a guy who has a lot
Speaker 9: of hair. Typically, you know what I do is unique.
Speaker 9: I happen to more here than anybody in the world.
Speaker 9: My patient's flying from all over the world. They have
Speaker 9: me do what I do because it's a unique procedure,
Speaker 9: and you know I could I usually, like my patient
Speaker 9: today just got finished. He was pretty much balled. Like
Speaker 9: you said, we took him from front to back, but
Speaker 9: he's going to need to come back. You know, I
Speaker 9: have to space it out a little bit more so
Speaker 9: depending on time with their expectations are determined how many
Speaker 9: times they want to go through it.
Speaker 3: This.
Speaker 9: One guy might come out and say, hey, this is great,
Speaker 9: I love it. The next guy might come back and say,
Speaker 9: I need so it's you know, beauts, and they had
Speaker 9: them older.
Speaker 2: So you would do the plugs and then maybe do
Speaker 2: like finished right or something like that as a maintenance.
Speaker 2: Is that what you would do, exactly right? Yeah? So,
Speaker 2: and I love how you keep saying plugs.
Speaker 4: That's awesome.
Speaker 9: You know what's funny is the fue surgery that they're
Speaker 9: doing now that Turkey does is essentially the plugs are invented,
Speaker 9: so for for us, for us older folks, remember the
Speaker 9: baby hair, the baby doll hair, look or they had
Speaker 9: the little plugs all over the place. So what they're
Speaker 9: doing with the fue is they're using the same punch
Speaker 9: paths that they do with the plugs. However, they're just
Speaker 9: now using a smaller punch paths. So they took the
Speaker 9: oldest piece of garbage procedure, reinvented it with a new name,
Speaker 9: and they're.
Speaker 4: Sewing it to the public as the latest and greatest technique.
Speaker 1: Well, I'm watching, I'm reading the story here, and it's
Speaker 1: said that the hair restoration and transplant business is massive.
Speaker 1: I mean, in twenty twenty two, the total number of
Speaker 1: hair restoration procedures worldwide was seven hundred and thirty five thousand,
Speaker 1: and that the hair transplant market so I stood at
Speaker 1: US dollars at almost six billion, with a B billion dollars.
Speaker 1: So I'm sure it's greater than that because those numbers
Speaker 1: are at least three maybe four years old. Well, you
Speaker 1: mentioned you mentioned Turkey, Okay, so I envisioned all these
Speaker 1: bald guys.
Speaker 2: Getting on an airplane and flying a Turkey to get
Speaker 2: this time they're doing it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're doing it Turkey. Is it cheaper in Turkey?
Speaker 1: And if it is cheaper or are you getting the
Speaker 1: same thing you'd get in the United States.
Speaker 9: So again it's going to be a mixed bag. So
Speaker 9: the reason why people are going there, they're offering procedures
Speaker 9: at a fraction of the cost and what we're doing here.
Speaker 9: But they're doing the fuwe procedure what we were just
Speaker 9: talking about. And the reason they're doing that is the
Speaker 9: doctor doesn't have to be involved as much in the case.
Speaker 9: So for example, I could offer fuwe in my clinic,
Speaker 9: put it in the back room, have technicians do it
Speaker 9: and not be involved and probably triple my revenue. I
Speaker 9: don't do that because I don't believe that's the best
Speaker 9: way to do it. I would do it if I
Speaker 9: felt it the best way to do a procedure, I'd
Speaker 9: be doing anfewe So you know, you don't like even
Speaker 9: in the United States, the doctors that are doing fuwe
Speaker 9: aren't doing it. They have clinicians. They are technicians, fly
Speaker 9: in they do the procedure for them, and they're in.
Speaker 4: Their other room doing them a nose job or a
Speaker 4: move job or dermatology.
Speaker 2: Or whatever they're doing.
Speaker 9: So that helped to sload the industry because you don't
Speaker 9: have to have the doctor be hands on, and it's
Speaker 9: not even legal in any the state what they're doing.
Speaker 1: So you could go like the Turkey and get hair restoration,
Speaker 1: get a boob job, maybe a Brazilian button list, and
Speaker 1: be out the door.
Speaker 2: Like in eight hours. Right maybe, yeah, but what are
Speaker 2: you saying for? That's the whole thing is what do
Speaker 2: you do?
Speaker 9: You know it's back, so you us to get them
Speaker 9: for a few thousand dollars down there, but they're not doing,
Speaker 9: in my opinion, quality work. I do a lot of
Speaker 9: correct the searching on those stations. The hairlines are very unnatural.
Speaker 9: The graphs are always in the wrong angles, which is
Speaker 9: very important. How they're angled up and they'll just be
Speaker 9: angled funny where they don't like it.
Speaker 3: Actually.
Speaker 9: Also, the way they harvest the donor hair, they're taking
Speaker 9: out of doing what's called the safe zone.
Speaker 2: So you know how you picture that ball.
Speaker 9: Guy's got that ring around the back, so they're taking
Speaker 9: outside of that ring when the patient has hair. But
Speaker 9: when the patients losing the hair later on, they're going
Speaker 9: to lose their terms because yeah, you got to be
Speaker 9: specific where you get the hair from. So there's a
Speaker 9: lot of pitfalls. Who's working on you in Turkey? Who's there,
Speaker 9: who's in that room?
Speaker 2: You have no idea.
Speaker 9: I mean with me, my same staff ten years, that's
Speaker 9: all we do every day, doing the same thing every
Speaker 9: day with my staff. And I've been doing this twenty
Speaker 9: eight years. So you know, you got to understand you
Speaker 9: get what you pay for.
Speaker 1: No, absolutely, I mean you created this Max Harvest, which
Speaker 1: is trademarked under your name. That's the technique you use.
Speaker 1: I said you where you were, I guess it was
Speaker 1: the world's greatest television show. You were named the greatest
Speaker 1: hair transplant surgery in the world. I mean, that's pretty
Speaker 1: big stuff, there, dog pretty big stuff.
Speaker 9: Thank you, Thank you so much. It's that's very humbly.
Speaker 9: I'm very very humble by that. I really appreciate.
Speaker 1: Why are younger people driving this demand for hair restoration?
Speaker 2: Are people?
Speaker 1: Have you noticed that that that that hair, that baldness
Speaker 1: or whatever the medical term is for. Do you know
Speaker 1: that it is happening You notice that that is happening
Speaker 1: more and more with younger people than it might have been.
Speaker 2: In years past.
Speaker 9: I think the biggest driving factor social media. You have
Speaker 9: a lot of these influencers that are going out and
Speaker 9: they're going to Turkey and they're filming the whole thing,
Speaker 9: and they have their followings, and then you have a
Speaker 9: lot of these all sorts of like social media pages
Speaker 9: where they communicate about the transplant and pending commercials for
Speaker 9: hymns in Roland and blah blah blah.
Speaker 2: So I think with all that marketing, it's really put.
Speaker 9: An emphasis for younger people to get the restoration, whereas
Speaker 9: before you never saw that that was never out there.
Speaker 9: So I think all of those factor into this, and
Speaker 9: then it's available everywhere now that all these doctors, like, you.
Speaker 4: Know, there's a dentist locally that does deftuely.
Speaker 9: We have the guy down the black you know, anyone
Speaker 9: gets put a machine in their back room and have
Speaker 9: a technician do it. So that's really changed everything, and
Speaker 9: that's made it where it's a lot more available. Where
Speaker 9: when I first started my patience, you know, everyone flew
Speaker 9: in because there was just not that many quality doctors
Speaker 9: doing the transplants. But now they can go locally because
Speaker 9: there's more people doing it.
Speaker 1: Doctor Brett Bolton is our guest again. He is regarded
Speaker 1: as the greatest hair transplant surgeon in the world, and
Speaker 1: we're talking about how you not only can get a
Speaker 1: nice bull head of hair, but also you can maintain
Speaker 1: it so that you don't have to worry every six
Speaker 1: eight months whether or not you know it's all going
Speaker 1: to fall out in the shower. Do you have to
Speaker 1: take hair doctor from the head? I mean some guys
Speaker 1: are just hairy. They got it on their chest, they
Speaker 1: got on their back, they got it on their arms.
Speaker 1: Could you have to take it from the header? Can
Speaker 1: you take it from other places on the body?
Speaker 9: So you're one hundred percent right, Yes, you can definitely
Speaker 9: take hair from other parts. Soloicles can be moved from
Speaker 9: your arm or your back or anywhere there's a blood
Speaker 9: bike and grow. So yes, we can definitely do that,
Speaker 9: but those are for like super string cases. We want
Speaker 9: to you know, obviously get as much out of the
Speaker 9: donor area as possible because.
Speaker 4: Remember, your arm hair is going to grow like an
Speaker 4: arm hair whenning to sit on the top of your head.
Speaker 2: Your back hair is going to look like a back here,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean? Right, So yeah, so we.
Speaker 9: Want to definitely use the proper donor here if possible,
Speaker 9: But there's definitely some extreme cases where patients are really
Speaker 9: gone and we need to take it from other area.
Speaker 1: For sure, I try to nail you down on a price.
Speaker 1: If I go to see doctor Brett Bolton and he said, well,
Speaker 1: it depends on the severity. So obviously people that have
Speaker 1: a little more here to work with, it's not going
Speaker 1: to be quite expensive. But there's got to be like
Speaker 1: an entry level price, right, there's got to be like
Speaker 1: that car without air conditioning and a radio.
Speaker 2: So what is it in your business? What's the entry
Speaker 2: level adace?
Speaker 9: So for me, my prices started two thousand dollars, but
Speaker 9: then they can go off ards to twenty so depending
Speaker 9: on how much.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 9: Well but yeah, to understand when when you pick a
Speaker 9: doctor that's I'm doing this twenty eight years with guarantee
Speaker 9: the results, you're you're getting what you're paying for. So
Speaker 9: when you go to yeah that's what you want to do.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean look you you you you hung the
Speaker 1: shingle twenty eight years ago and if it didn't work,
Speaker 1: you'd be in some other line of work at this point,
Speaker 1: so yeah, it must work. How backed up are you
Speaker 1: like if somebody's listening right now. And then I say, hey,
Speaker 1: I want to go to Fort Laura. I'm going to
Speaker 1: see this guy. Are you are you taking patients into
Speaker 1: twenty twenty six or are you booked up to like
Speaker 1: twenty thirty five.
Speaker 9: I wish yeah, but no, we definitely will. We'll make
Speaker 9: room for anybody who's ready for an air, especially if
Speaker 9: they come from your show. So we'll make a spash
Speaker 9: live for your audience.
Speaker 1: Well, that's doctor Bolton there. He'll guarantee a full head
Speaker 1: of hair and a full set of teeth. And but
Speaker 1: the fact that the battle is it is a booming
Speaker 1: business because people want to people. You know, Doc, people
Speaker 1: just want to look younger. They want to look better,
Speaker 1: and they want to look younger. And whether it's a
Speaker 1: facelift or some other part of your body that needs
Speaker 1: a lift or hair restoration, we're in a society right
Speaker 1: now that does not treat older people as well as
Speaker 1: they treat younger, good looking people.
Speaker 2: Have you noticed that?
Speaker 9: I completely agree. Yeah, I have patients like it was funny.
Speaker 9: I tell a story about a month ago. My Monday
Speaker 9: patient was an eighty four year old man, and my
Speaker 9: Tuesday patient was an eighty five year old woman and
Speaker 9: just to imploid it, you know, and.
Speaker 2: They both said that.
Speaker 9: I asked them, you know, what's your goal is, why
Speaker 9: do you want to do this? They both had the
Speaker 9: same answer. I look in the mirror and I don't
Speaker 9: see myself anymore, and I want to feel like myself again.
Speaker 9: And when they get that hair back, it gives me
Speaker 9: the confidence back. It changes the way they see themselves.
Speaker 9: Even though they're elderly. They don't want to look that
Speaker 9: way or feel that way. So it's it's you know,
Speaker 9: it's a great time for Cosmix because we have all
Speaker 9: sorts of you know, different treatments that little touches that
Speaker 9: are not too hard to do, as far as the
Speaker 9: injections boatocks erexcellent.
Speaker 4: And you know the big you know for the manners
Speaker 4: the hair.
Speaker 9: So it's a really great thing and it really it's
Speaker 9: as it sounds, to change the people vide.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I look in the mirror and I say, who
Speaker 1: the hell are you? And how did you get into
Speaker 1: my house? That's that's how people get hold of you.
Speaker 1: Where can they find doctor Brett? Thank you so much
Speaker 1: at Great Hair Transplants dot com. Okay hair trade hair
Speaker 1: your great hairtag plants dot com. You got it all right,
Speaker 1: thought this is good stuff. I'm in.
Speaker 2: Thank you, hopefully someone else is you.
Speaker 1: Take care, stay well and if if we don't talk again,
Speaker 1: have a happy twenty twenty six.
Speaker 2: Thank you so much for other can words, and thank
Speaker 2: you for having me. And you're shore you bet.
Speaker 1: And by the way, if you're at the airport you
Speaker 1: see a bald guy getting on a planet it's flying ease,
Speaker 1: just say hey, are you really going to Turkey? Or
Speaker 1: you know, maybe just making a side trip first to
Speaker 1: Fort Lauderd, or maybe you could just mind your own
Speaker 1: business to twenty eight.
Speaker 2: On this Friday news Radio seven hundred wl W.
Speaker 1: Two forty two on this Friday afternoon, it's the average
Speaker 1: American and for the great American, Dan Carol and Jason Williams.
Speaker 1: And after the news at the top of the hour,
Speaker 1: they'll take you right to six o'clock. No hockey game
Speaker 1: tonight is we've been mentioning. Jack Crumley has been mentioning
Speaker 1: all afternoon. The Cyclones sounds like they're fixing to go
Speaker 1: on strike with the rest of the East Coast Hockey
Speaker 1: League players and with no agreement between the Cyclones and
Speaker 1: the folks at the EHL.
Speaker 2: It's it's on, baby.
Speaker 1: You might see some of your favorite players picketing outside
Speaker 1: Heritage Bank Center soon.
Speaker 2: Stay tuned for that.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of there are, I'm sorry, a lot
Speaker 1: of things that I would like to see in twenty
Speaker 1: twenty six, and I'm sure you do to The list
Speaker 1: probably is fairly endless. One thing I think a lot
Speaker 1: of people would like more is more out of their job.
Speaker 1: Gallup just at a study and it was a worldwide study,
Speaker 1: it was not anything confined to the United States, and
Speaker 1: it found that seventy seven percent of employees worldwide, seventy
Speaker 1: seven percent feel disengaged at work, and that disengagement is
Speaker 1: costing employe ers around the world eight point eight trillion,
Speaker 1: with a t trillion dollars. Used to be you got
Speaker 1: bored out at work. Now apparently you're I mean you
Speaker 1: used to get burned out of work. I'm sorry. Now
Speaker 1: apparently you're bored out at work. And I've often wondered
Speaker 1: that phenomena, because why take a job if you don't
Speaker 1: think it's going to be something that's going to really
Speaker 1: jazz up? And it leads into a theory that I
Speaker 1: have and that is particularly with the younger generation, the
Speaker 1: gen Z folks. They're not looking for careers. They're not
Speaker 1: looking for a old watch at the end of the line,
Speaker 1: They're looking for a job that fits into their lifestyle,
Speaker 1: something that will pay the bills at home, because home
Speaker 1: is the most important thing. And you know, there's nothing
Speaker 1: wrong with that. In the bad old days, the employer
Speaker 1: thought that he or she owned you, hook line and sinker,
Speaker 1: whether you were on the job or not. And it
Speaker 1: shouldn't be that way. And the pengulum is spunk swung
Speaker 1: the other way. But apparently this bore out is a
Speaker 1: big deal. Dwayne Deson is someone who is employe er
Speaker 1: slash employee relationship expert, and he has written a book
Speaker 1: called Operationally Spelt and that sounds like maybe it's got
Speaker 1: something to do with AI. But nevertheless, I asked Dwayne
Speaker 1: to join me on the show here to talk a
Speaker 1: little bit about what's this difference between borout and burnout
Speaker 1: and if it does have anything to do with AI.
Speaker 1: So let's bring them on in. He's here on a Friday,
Speaker 1: it's probably a day off from him, and hit him
Speaker 1: carving out some time for us.
Speaker 2: Dwayne decent, how are you on this glorious Friday?
Speaker 3: I am very welken.
Speaker 2: Thank you for calling.
Speaker 9: What is the.
Speaker 1: Difference between bore out and burnout? Where would the line
Speaker 1: be drawn there?
Speaker 11: Well, the big difference is that I think is with
Speaker 11: burnout you're much more exhausted because you're being overworked, and
Speaker 11: borout can be for a few reasons. Either you're underworked
Speaker 11: and therefore your board, or perhaps you're just not challenged,
Speaker 11: which is the other common aspect of boorout. Now there's
Speaker 11: they're very both have serious consequences. One a lot of
Speaker 11: people you start having ascesses and people leave because of
Speaker 11: the burned out, But people that are borout are not
Speaker 11: engaged and usually are not producing the best work because
Speaker 11: of that.
Speaker 2: Either way, it sounds like it's a management problem.
Speaker 11: Well, I would actually say cube issues one. It is
Speaker 11: the management problem where that means you're not challenging your ployees,
Speaker 11: you're not creating a dynamic, exciting environment and therefore you
Speaker 11: and you're not helping your employee grow and they're.
Speaker 2: For their board.
Speaker 11: So I would say yes, But there's also an employee
Speaker 11: aspect of this where you have to make sure you
Speaker 11: don't take a job that is not going to challenge you.
Speaker 11: If you take a job just because you want maybe
Speaker 11: a work life balance and low hours or whatever your criteria,
Speaker 11: and then all of a sudden you're not challenged at work,
Speaker 11: that's a bad thing too. So I think you have
Speaker 11: to make sure that you seek opportunities as an employee
Speaker 11: that is going to challenge you and going to make
Speaker 11: you work and not cause a bore out certain extent,
Speaker 11: you know.
Speaker 1: I see this this Gallop report that says that employee
Speaker 1: engagement in our country fell to its lowest level in
Speaker 1: ten years. That was a report of survey I guess
Speaker 1: taken in twenty twenty four, thirty one percent of workers
Speaker 1: say they feel engaged on the job. Okay, So if
Speaker 1: you're not engaged on the job, you're either not buying
Speaker 1: in right or you're not be given a reason to
Speaker 1: buy in.
Speaker 2: And I.
Speaker 1: Don't understand where the problem is here, because if the
Speaker 1: boss wants to make money, right, boss wants to make money,
Speaker 1: and on a lot of jobs, if the boss is
Speaker 1: making money, chances are you doing the work for the
Speaker 1: boss will make money. So how has it fallen into
Speaker 1: only thirty one percent here in recent In this recent
Speaker 1: survey how's it falling that low?
Speaker 11: Well, I think that's set back to a little bit
Speaker 11: of the combination of employees are taking positions that aren't
Speaker 11: challenging them, is one, and so that's creating a problem
Speaker 11: because people want to have this work life balance, and
Speaker 11: that's very common on the younger generations now. But then
Speaker 11: I also think that work is trying to become so
Speaker 11: automated now that we are trying to we feel like
Speaker 11: to be efficient and to manage costs, we have to
Speaker 11: make everything very routine and tight, and so there's very
Speaker 11: little variation in processes, and because of that, we almost
Speaker 11: end up acting like you're a machine where you're doing
Speaker 11: one function over and over and over again, and then
Speaker 11: you result and end up feeling unchallenged because of it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is the second time that you've said the
Speaker 1: word or the phrase, don't feel challenged at work. Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm looking for another job. Well, this is a hypothetical.
Speaker 1: I'm very happy where I am with us. I'm looking
Speaker 1: for another job and I'm looking around, and I'm looking
Speaker 1: at various companies that offer what I do. How would
Speaker 1: I how would I go through the interview process and
Speaker 1: know that this is a job that would challenge me,
Speaker 1: knowing full well that the other side of this is
Speaker 1: we're talking about work life balance, where you'll take anything
Speaker 1: to earn a paycheck, to make sure that things at
Speaker 1: home are the most important things in your life. Nothing worried,
Speaker 1: nothing wrong about that. Certainly that's a great priority for
Speaker 1: a number of people. But how do you know when
Speaker 1: you're out there if a job that's offered to you
Speaker 1: will be a job that will challenge you and you
Speaker 1: will not become bored out?
Speaker 3: Great question. What you really need to do is ask
Speaker 3: to speak to.
Speaker 11: Other peers that you'll be working with and to get
Speaker 11: a feel for the company, to get a.
Speaker 2: Feel for what they do and what their job roles are.
Speaker 11: And then one of the questions you can ask them
Speaker 11: to say how challenged do they feel on the day
Speaker 11: to day base, whether what's their hours are, do they
Speaker 11: receive additional training or other types of aspects that might
Speaker 11: make their positions more interesting.
Speaker 2: So don't just.
Speaker 11: Take a job that you that you interview with your boss.
Speaker 11: You spend an hour with that person. You assume you
Speaker 11: understand a position if you can, and I think usually
Speaker 11: the most companies are very open to this. Try to
Speaker 11: speak with some of the people that you'll be working
Speaker 11: with that have similar positions, so that you really garner
Speaker 11: what they're doing.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it would seem to me that the people that
Speaker 1: would be the most successful at this would be the
Speaker 1: people are speaking of, people who are not going to
Speaker 1: be bored out or not going to be burned out,
Speaker 1: would have an ultimate goal. This is what I would
Speaker 1: want to do, This is what I want to do
Speaker 1: ten years from now, This is where I would ultimately
Speaker 1: like to wind up in this career that I'm building.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's probably old guy thinking because now I think,
Speaker 1: as you mentioned, we have a society, particularly the younger
Speaker 1: demographic of it, that wants work life life balance. And
Speaker 1: because of that, careers really aren't the issue here. It's jobs.
Speaker 1: They'll take a job as opposed to looking at what
Speaker 1: the long term goals are for a quote unquote career.
Speaker 1: Have careers taken a back seat with the under thirty
Speaker 1: crowd in your opinion, I think there.
Speaker 2: Is a problem with that.
Speaker 11: I think many people aren't looking what they want today
Speaker 11: and not necessarily what they're.
Speaker 2: Going to want in ten or twenty years from now.
Speaker 11: So when you are thinking about your career, you should
Speaker 11: be thinking about the long term aspects of that and
Speaker 11: make sure that you are working to that and progressing
Speaker 11: along that path. And I think you bring up a
Speaker 11: good point about making sure that you're challenged and be
Speaker 11: other ways of doing that other than just what the
Speaker 11: employee provides you. You can go to your employer and
Speaker 11: tell them and say i'd like additional responsibility, take the initiative.
Speaker 11: You can look for training opportunities so you can expand
Speaker 11: your skills, look for processes that aren't working well and
Speaker 11: make suggestions and get involved in how to improve them,
Speaker 11: so kind of become part of a solution. And if
Speaker 11: you do that, you really ask not only you're going
Speaker 11: to feel more engaged, but you're going to add a
Speaker 11: lot more value to the company and be more appreciated.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I would have to think that anybody who with half
Speaker 1: a brain that runs a company would be able to
Speaker 1: identify a person like that as opposed to just some
Speaker 1: floater or somebody that's just trying to take a job.
Speaker 1: Dwin decent business strategist. His book has operationally spelt managed
Speaker 1: costs to increase profit and enhance performance. Look, this is
Speaker 1: maybe all topic a little bit, but AI is here,
Speaker 1: and it's only going to become more prevalent in a
Speaker 1: lot of businesses. If you're somebody who is a line worker,
Speaker 1: someone who's not middle management, someone who is not in
Speaker 1: the corner.
Speaker 2: Suite, the C suite, what should you be doing about AI?
Speaker 1: Because it sounds like AI is going to take away
Speaker 1: a lot of the jobs maybe that we've been talking
Speaker 1: about here in the last couple of minutes.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I do not think you're off point at all.
Speaker 11: AI is a big factor, particularly here because you're talking
Speaker 11: about people that are doing somewhat read team task or
Speaker 11: not challenged for whatever reason. But usually that's a sign
Speaker 11: that has worked that AI can do pretty efficiently as well.
Speaker 3: So if you are in a position where you're bored.
Speaker 11: Out, I do think you're more at risk being replaced
Speaker 11: by an AI type of solution.
Speaker 4: And I think the solution to that is not.
Speaker 11: To avoid AI and dredd it, but it's actually to
Speaker 11: engage AI. How do you embrace AI in order to
Speaker 11: make your job easier. May take away the boredom aspects
Speaker 11: of what you do and the routine aspects of what
Speaker 11: you do and try to make them something a little
Speaker 11: bit more exciting, so you know you have the time
Speaker 11: to concentrate on a type of work that maybe you
Speaker 11: enjoy more, that's more creative that AI really.
Speaker 3: Hasn't been able to do yet.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, And probably pick up a copy of operationally spelled
Speaker 1: Manage Cost to Increase Profit and Enhance Performance would be
Speaker 1: a good starting point and entry point and the Dwayne
Speaker 1: Deson Business Strategist. And look, thanks for your time here, Dwayne.
Speaker 1: I think you explain things rather well. We appreciate it,
Speaker 1: let's face it. Down the road about that, I.
Speaker 2: Look forward to it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, burnout, maybe not, Maybe you're just flat out board
Speaker 1: neither man in either event. I mean, you know it's
Speaker 1: up to you to fix it, right, nobody's gonna fix
Speaker 1: it if you're bored except you. So hopefully that's not
Speaker 1: a problem for you, well for me for that matter.
Speaker 1: Going into twenty twenty six, two point fifty three, on
Speaker 1: this Friday afternoon, news Radio seven hundred WLW