1 00:00:01,280 --> 00:00:06,920 Speaker 1: Good Wednesday afternoon, you exceptional Americans. How do you do? 2 00:00:08,320 --> 00:00:13,119 Speaker 1: It is Wednesday, December third, twenty twenty five, in the 3 00:00:13,200 --> 00:00:17,760 Speaker 1: Year of Our Lord. This is the Dan o'donald Show 4 00:00:17,800 --> 00:00:20,640 Speaker 1: with your radio talk show host Villin, Daddy Matt Kittle. 5 00:00:20,680 --> 00:00:25,079 Speaker 1: Glad to have you along. Hope you're staying warm. You 6 00:00:25,120 --> 00:00:29,320 Speaker 1: ain't seen nothing yet. The cold is coming, the deep freeze. 7 00:00:29,400 --> 00:00:36,159 Speaker 1: Thanks again Canada for sending us more of your stuff. Well, 8 00:00:36,240 --> 00:00:38,720 Speaker 1: we got a lot of stuff, speaking of which coming 9 00:00:38,800 --> 00:00:43,440 Speaker 1: up in the next three hours of The Dan o'donald Show. 10 00:00:43,440 --> 00:00:47,639 Speaker 1: We'll tell you all about that in just a bit, 11 00:00:47,760 --> 00:00:51,839 Speaker 1: including a couple of conversations with some real good guests 12 00:00:53,080 --> 00:00:57,040 Speaker 1: in the next couple of hours. I don't know if 13 00:00:57,080 --> 00:01:01,640 Speaker 1: you know this, perhaps you haven't heard the news yet, 14 00:01:02,480 --> 00:01:08,919 Speaker 1: but I have some great news for all of those 15 00:01:09,520 --> 00:01:16,040 Speaker 1: who have been longing for who have missed, desperately missed 16 00:01:16,800 --> 00:01:25,720 Speaker 1: the McRib. Yeah, it's back. Oh and a Merry Christmas 17 00:01:25,760 --> 00:01:29,399 Speaker 1: to you too. Yeah, the mcmcrib is back. And once again. 18 00:01:30,319 --> 00:01:34,479 Speaker 1: I always get excited about the return of the McRib 19 00:01:35,600 --> 00:01:43,680 Speaker 1: until I eat it, and then then the excitement kind 20 00:01:43,720 --> 00:01:49,560 Speaker 1: of dissipates rather quickly. But for those of you who 21 00:01:49,600 --> 00:01:54,440 Speaker 1: are in the grateful McRib the McRib heads, if you will. 22 00:01:55,520 --> 00:02:00,400 Speaker 1: It is back now Giving Tuesday yesterday obviously, and I'm 23 00:02:00,440 --> 00:02:05,600 Speaker 1: told it was a big day for nonprofity property, nonprofits, 24 00:02:06,400 --> 00:02:11,320 Speaker 1: nonprofit properties, yes, and charities of all kinds. You know, 25 00:02:11,400 --> 00:02:16,919 Speaker 1: Americans are the most generation absolutely when it comes to giving. 26 00:02:17,120 --> 00:02:21,760 Speaker 1: When it comes to generosity, Americans. Nobody holds a candle 27 00:02:22,080 --> 00:02:27,519 Speaker 1: to Americans. So another good day. My daughter, my youngest 28 00:02:27,560 --> 00:02:30,519 Speaker 1: Cora Jane, as a matter of fact, was getting involved 29 00:02:30,520 --> 00:02:33,600 Speaker 1: in that with her school project. They were doing a 30 00:02:33,639 --> 00:02:39,920 Speaker 1: little fundraising, a little baking, baking cookies for the homeless, 31 00:02:40,360 --> 00:02:43,600 Speaker 1: which I thought was very nice, and they put in well, 32 00:02:43,600 --> 00:02:48,280 Speaker 1: I guess some inspirational messaging along with the baked goods. 33 00:02:49,040 --> 00:02:51,320 Speaker 1: And so I asked my daughter, so what did you 34 00:02:51,360 --> 00:02:53,760 Speaker 1: put in there? What kind of inspirational messages did you 35 00:02:53,800 --> 00:02:56,120 Speaker 1: put in there? She said, well, one of them was 36 00:02:59,120 --> 00:03:04,720 Speaker 1: you're doing a great job. I thought, well, that is 37 00:03:04,880 --> 00:03:11,360 Speaker 1: very uplifting, you know, keep going those kinds of things, 38 00:03:12,760 --> 00:03:17,360 Speaker 1: very very positive sorts of messages. The cookies will be 39 00:03:17,400 --> 00:03:20,760 Speaker 1: delicious as well, but keep up the good work. Was 40 00:03:21,200 --> 00:03:25,040 Speaker 1: one of the inspirational messages from the eighth grade squad 41 00:03:25,880 --> 00:03:31,320 Speaker 1: coming up a little bit later this hour. The Feminazis 42 00:03:31,360 --> 00:03:35,200 Speaker 1: are back. Follow the Feminazi science. A new Goldwater Institute 43 00:03:35,280 --> 00:03:39,680 Speaker 1: report shines a light on the ideological takeover of the 44 00:03:39,720 --> 00:03:45,960 Speaker 1: American Political Science Review. It is it is supposed to 45 00:03:46,000 --> 00:03:55,720 Speaker 1: be a science base, peer reviewed magazine, periodical, and like 46 00:03:55,840 --> 00:03:58,880 Speaker 1: so many of these others, they have been absolutely commandeered 47 00:03:58,920 --> 00:04:02,960 Speaker 1: by the left. We're going to to Timothy Manela, he 48 00:04:03,000 --> 00:04:08,279 Speaker 1: a senior Constitutionalism Fellow at the Goldwater Institute's Van Sittert 49 00:04:08,520 --> 00:04:12,440 Speaker 1: Center for Constitutional Advocacy. He's author of this new report, 50 00:04:12,480 --> 00:04:17,720 Speaker 1: and I think what basically it underlines is just how 51 00:04:17,839 --> 00:04:22,160 Speaker 1: far the left has infiltrated just about every entity out there, 52 00:04:22,200 --> 00:04:26,080 Speaker 1: every institution out there. Just more to keep an eye 53 00:04:26,120 --> 00:04:30,360 Speaker 1: on and to be aware of. A little bit later 54 00:04:30,400 --> 00:04:33,760 Speaker 1: on the hour, the Democrats have released their vacation photos. 55 00:04:33,839 --> 00:04:37,479 Speaker 1: We'll delve into that before we get to the four 56 00:04:37,520 --> 00:04:41,400 Speaker 1: o'clock hour. And in the four o'clock hour, Supreme rigging. 57 00:04:41,839 --> 00:04:45,960 Speaker 1: While milk toast Republicans experience a collective tummy ache over 58 00:04:46,000 --> 00:04:52,080 Speaker 1: the fairness of mid decade redistricting, Democrats nationally are feasting 59 00:04:52,120 --> 00:04:57,760 Speaker 1: on power grabbing jerrymanders. The latest outflanking comes not surprisingly 60 00:04:58,480 --> 00:05:03,280 Speaker 1: from Wisconsin's liberal controlled Supreme Court. Our old friend Daniel Sir, 61 00:05:03,440 --> 00:05:06,840 Speaker 1: President of the Center for American Rights and former policy 62 00:05:06,880 --> 00:05:10,919 Speaker 1: director for Wisconsin Governor Scott Walker, will join us around 63 00:05:11,000 --> 00:05:14,159 Speaker 1: four to twenty this afternoon to talk about the latest 64 00:05:14,240 --> 00:05:17,560 Speaker 1: on that front. As you know probably know by now, 65 00:05:17,680 --> 00:05:21,919 Speaker 1: the leftist led Supreme Court in the state of Wisconsin, 66 00:05:22,000 --> 00:05:24,480 Speaker 1: which was richly bought and paid for by the likes 67 00:05:24,480 --> 00:05:30,279 Speaker 1: of JB. Pritzker, Reid Hoffman, and George Soros. Well, those 68 00:05:30,800 --> 00:05:34,880 Speaker 1: lads are getting their money's worth because the Supreme Court 69 00:05:34,960 --> 00:05:38,080 Speaker 1: decided they were going to establish a couple of very 70 00:05:38,120 --> 00:05:44,440 Speaker 1: far left panels, panels comprised of very far left judges 71 00:05:45,400 --> 00:05:48,920 Speaker 1: to decide a couple of lawsuits that the Democrats are 72 00:05:48,960 --> 00:05:54,600 Speaker 1: pushing so that they can get fairer maps. And what's 73 00:05:54,600 --> 00:05:56,839 Speaker 1: funny about all of this, as you well know, is 74 00:05:56,880 --> 00:06:02,480 Speaker 1: that they want fairer maps. The maps that they're talking about, 75 00:06:02,760 --> 00:06:07,599 Speaker 1: the congressional boundary lines in Wisconsin were actually written by 76 00:06:08,520 --> 00:06:15,320 Speaker 1: Governor Tony Evers People's Committee. They thought those were the 77 00:06:15,320 --> 00:06:17,280 Speaker 1: fair maps at this time. Now they figure they can 78 00:06:17,279 --> 00:06:19,080 Speaker 1: get a lot more out of the Supreme Court, and 79 00:06:19,080 --> 00:06:21,240 Speaker 1: they will get a lot more out of the Supreme Court. 80 00:06:21,279 --> 00:06:24,240 Speaker 1: We'll talk about that again coming up in the four 81 00:06:24,240 --> 00:06:26,840 Speaker 1: o'clock hour. And before we get on out of here, 82 00:06:26,880 --> 00:06:32,760 Speaker 1: today tis the season, Yes, it is time for the 83 00:06:33,080 --> 00:06:39,839 Speaker 1: twelve Days of Liberal Christmas. What the liberals are giving 84 00:06:39,920 --> 00:06:46,280 Speaker 1: to wisconsinights all over. We'll delve into that coming up 85 00:06:46,360 --> 00:06:48,240 Speaker 1: in just a bit right now, though, I want to 86 00:06:48,279 --> 00:06:53,200 Speaker 1: start here with what was to the left the Democrat Party, 87 00:06:53,720 --> 00:06:59,040 Speaker 1: the hoped for big victory to show Donald Trump that 88 00:06:59,080 --> 00:07:01,840 Speaker 1: we mean business and we're coming for you. In twenty 89 00:07:01,920 --> 00:07:06,919 Speaker 1: twenty six, it was a special election in Tennessee's seventh 90 00:07:06,960 --> 00:07:10,720 Speaker 1: Congressional district, and he might not care too much about 91 00:07:10,960 --> 00:07:16,640 Speaker 1: what is happening in Congressman Mark Green's old district. Green, 92 00:07:16,760 --> 00:07:20,640 Speaker 1: of course, had been the longtime Republican congressman from the 93 00:07:20,680 --> 00:07:25,320 Speaker 1: seventh Congressional district. He stepped down earlier this year to 94 00:07:25,360 --> 00:07:29,040 Speaker 1: pursue business interest, and so that left the open seat 95 00:07:29,640 --> 00:07:32,640 Speaker 1: in tennessee seventh Congressional district, a district, by the way, 96 00:07:33,240 --> 00:07:37,880 Speaker 1: that Donald Trump won by twenty two points last year. 97 00:07:38,640 --> 00:07:43,680 Speaker 1: Green won it by twenty one last year as well. 98 00:07:44,320 --> 00:07:49,160 Speaker 1: Let's just say it is a highly dependable, highly reliable 99 00:07:49,560 --> 00:07:56,280 Speaker 1: Republican congressional district. The left saw this as an opportunity 100 00:07:57,440 --> 00:08:00,760 Speaker 1: they were going to run, and they did it. Run 101 00:08:01,360 --> 00:08:05,160 Speaker 1: maybe one of the wackiest leftist out there, and that's 102 00:08:05,160 --> 00:08:08,480 Speaker 1: saying a good deal at least one of the wackiest 103 00:08:08,600 --> 00:08:16,280 Speaker 1: leftists in Tennessee. Her name is Aten Bean. I don't 104 00:08:16,280 --> 00:08:19,200 Speaker 1: know if you saw the story just about or had 105 00:08:20,240 --> 00:08:24,040 Speaker 1: gotten the four to one one on Aten being throughout, 106 00:08:24,160 --> 00:08:29,160 Speaker 1: but as far as liberals go, I mean, she really 107 00:08:29,280 --> 00:08:37,040 Speaker 1: took the cake. This is someone that earned the name, 108 00:08:37,200 --> 00:08:42,880 Speaker 1: believe me, the AOC of Tennessee. She was a state 109 00:08:42,960 --> 00:08:48,080 Speaker 1: representative from Nashville who earlier in her political career had 110 00:08:48,080 --> 00:08:50,599 Speaker 1: talked about how much she hated the city of Nashville, 111 00:08:51,320 --> 00:08:56,880 Speaker 1: how much the she despised the voters of Tennessee in general, 112 00:08:56,960 --> 00:08:59,880 Speaker 1: that they were nothing but a bunch of racist Here's 113 00:08:59,880 --> 00:09:02,760 Speaker 1: the one that probably really cost her. She talked about 114 00:09:02,760 --> 00:09:09,959 Speaker 1: how much she hated country music in music city Nashville, 115 00:09:10,280 --> 00:09:16,559 Speaker 1: the home the mecca of country music. Same leftist sort 116 00:09:16,559 --> 00:09:18,960 Speaker 1: of stuff that you'll find in AOC as well. She 117 00:09:19,080 --> 00:09:22,240 Speaker 1: talked about how she wanted to defund the police, all 118 00:09:22,360 --> 00:09:28,640 Speaker 1: kinds of anti law enforcement rhetoric. She recorded herself earlier 119 00:09:28,760 --> 00:09:35,959 Speaker 1: this year, harassing ice agents. She was deep into, deeply 120 00:09:36,040 --> 00:09:42,839 Speaker 1: steeped in the whole systemic racism shtick. And to put 121 00:09:42,880 --> 00:09:46,960 Speaker 1: a cherry on top of this delicious leftist dessert, she 122 00:09:47,440 --> 00:09:51,840 Speaker 1: passionately talked about how men can give birth. So you've 123 00:09:51,840 --> 00:09:54,640 Speaker 1: got again, there you go. You've got all the credentials, 124 00:09:54,640 --> 00:09:57,960 Speaker 1: you've got the resume set for one of the wackiest 125 00:09:58,040 --> 00:10:02,280 Speaker 1: leftists that Tennessee could ever throw row out. But here's 126 00:10:02,320 --> 00:10:06,959 Speaker 1: the problem. This is again a district that is reliably 127 00:10:07,920 --> 00:10:14,160 Speaker 1: read reliably right. In a special election held in early December, 128 00:10:15,679 --> 00:10:22,440 Speaker 1: the Republican Matt Van Epps, an army veteran, did win, 129 00:10:23,480 --> 00:10:27,679 Speaker 1: but only by nine points. There is a lot of talk, 130 00:10:27,720 --> 00:10:31,920 Speaker 1: of course, by the liberals the Democrat Party today, oh oh, 131 00:10:32,160 --> 00:10:34,720 Speaker 1: that's a harbinger of things to come. Yeah. Sure, our 132 00:10:34,800 --> 00:10:39,840 Speaker 1: candidate got beat pretty badly, but not badly enough, not 133 00:10:39,920 --> 00:10:44,040 Speaker 1: badly enough for us to say, well, who knows what's 134 00:10:44,040 --> 00:10:46,640 Speaker 1: going to happen in the twenty twenty six midterms. No, 135 00:10:46,800 --> 00:10:49,160 Speaker 1: the left says, we know what's going to happen in 136 00:10:49,200 --> 00:10:53,520 Speaker 1: the twenty twenty six midterms. This closer than expected race 137 00:10:53,559 --> 00:10:57,439 Speaker 1: in Tennessee tells us that there is some truth to that. 138 00:10:58,600 --> 00:11:04,720 Speaker 1: Republicans who sit on the sidelines in special elections, Republicans 139 00:11:04,760 --> 00:11:10,280 Speaker 1: who sit on the sidelines in midterms, Republicans who don't 140 00:11:10,320 --> 00:11:15,320 Speaker 1: have any intention of voting in twenty twenty six because 141 00:11:15,360 --> 00:11:18,880 Speaker 1: Trump is not on the ballot miss the point gravely 142 00:11:19,840 --> 00:11:24,480 Speaker 1: that Trump and his agenda are indeed on the twenty 143 00:11:24,559 --> 00:11:29,960 Speaker 1: twenty six ballot, and that if Republicans do not come 144 00:11:29,960 --> 00:11:38,680 Speaker 1: out and vote in mass for Republican candidates, leftists will 145 00:11:38,720 --> 00:11:42,080 Speaker 1: take over the House and they will absolutely shut down 146 00:11:42,160 --> 00:11:47,199 Speaker 1: the Trump agenda. Not only that, they will be going 147 00:11:47,240 --> 00:11:51,000 Speaker 1: into full impeachment mode. Whether that goes anywhere or not, 148 00:11:51,480 --> 00:11:54,559 Speaker 1: it's all a distraction. It all gets away from draining 149 00:11:54,640 --> 00:11:59,959 Speaker 1: the swamp. Now here's the big takeaway from all of it. 150 00:12:00,640 --> 00:12:06,200 Speaker 1: The Republican Party. Republicans in the House need to start 151 00:12:06,320 --> 00:12:11,800 Speaker 1: locking in on getting Trump's agenda through, not only because 152 00:12:11,800 --> 00:12:16,440 Speaker 1: there's limited time, but they need to give Republican voters 153 00:12:17,360 --> 00:12:22,080 Speaker 1: a reason to get off the sidelines. They need to 154 00:12:22,120 --> 00:12:27,480 Speaker 1: give Republican voters incentive to say, okay, they are now 155 00:12:27,640 --> 00:12:32,520 Speaker 1: again finally with the president, they are with what we 156 00:12:33,640 --> 00:12:39,520 Speaker 1: voted for and While there has been some good movement 157 00:12:41,160 --> 00:12:45,040 Speaker 1: on moving forward the America First agenda, I think a 158 00:12:45,080 --> 00:12:48,800 Speaker 1: lot of conservatives look at what has not been accomplished 159 00:12:48,840 --> 00:12:55,000 Speaker 1: in say why why would we if it's going to 160 00:12:55,000 --> 00:12:59,559 Speaker 1: be the same thing over and over again. Give conservatives 161 00:12:59,559 --> 00:13:03,800 Speaker 1: a reason to vote for you in twenty twenty six. 162 00:13:04,080 --> 00:13:09,719 Speaker 1: That reason is America First. Stay with us coming up momentarily, 163 00:13:09,760 --> 00:13:12,200 Speaker 1: going to have a conversation about how the left is 164 00:13:12,520 --> 00:13:17,040 Speaker 1: once again taking over science the American Political Science Review. 165 00:13:17,040 --> 00:13:19,360 Speaker 1: As a matter of fact, we delve into that with 166 00:13:19,400 --> 00:13:21,800 Speaker 1: a new report on the subject straight ahead on this 167 00:13:22,320 --> 00:13:24,960 Speaker 1: Wednesday edition of The Dan O'Donnell Show with Matt Kittle, 168 00:13:25,200 --> 00:13:33,760 Speaker 1: Stay with us. Merry Christmas, you old building and loan. Sorry, 169 00:13:34,480 --> 00:13:37,600 Speaker 1: can't help myself. I've got a hankering for It's a 170 00:13:37,640 --> 00:13:40,840 Speaker 1: Wonderful Life. You remember when they used to show that 171 00:13:40,880 --> 00:13:45,360 Speaker 1: pretty much around the clock. Last week of Christmas. I 172 00:13:45,440 --> 00:13:50,480 Speaker 1: missed those days. It was a quieter time. We were 173 00:13:50,520 --> 00:13:53,640 Speaker 1: talking about the leftist in Tennessee who lost in the 174 00:13:53,640 --> 00:13:59,360 Speaker 1: seventh Congressional district last night, and the concern and understandable 175 00:13:59,400 --> 00:14:04,319 Speaker 1: concern that the victory by the Republican in that district 176 00:14:04,600 --> 00:14:08,720 Speaker 1: was not significant enough at least not to quiet the 177 00:14:08,760 --> 00:14:13,559 Speaker 1: hopes of Democrats, and they're hoped for blue wave of 178 00:14:13,600 --> 00:14:16,840 Speaker 1: twenty twenty six. This is a little taste of far 179 00:14:17,440 --> 00:14:25,680 Speaker 1: leftist Aten Beam, who was running as a moderate in 180 00:14:25,720 --> 00:14:30,120 Speaker 1: this deep red congressional district, but indeed as a Marxist. 181 00:14:30,320 --> 00:14:36,479 Speaker 1: Let's hear the crooning that went on after her defeat 182 00:14:36,840 --> 00:14:56,640 Speaker 1: last night. Here it is. Yeah, there you have. There's 183 00:14:56,760 --> 00:15:00,920 Speaker 1: aften Beam singing along to Dolly Parton's nine to five, 184 00:15:01,240 --> 00:15:04,280 Speaker 1: where other liberals are standing behind her and looking at 185 00:15:04,280 --> 00:15:08,320 Speaker 1: her like, yeah, now we know one of the many 186 00:15:08,360 --> 00:15:11,920 Speaker 1: reasons why she lost in the seventh Congressional district in 187 00:15:11,960 --> 00:15:15,800 Speaker 1: Tennessee last night. Well, the left is everywhere, as we know. 188 00:15:16,040 --> 00:15:21,160 Speaker 1: Follow the Feminazi science. A new Goldwater Institute report, Peer 189 00:15:21,280 --> 00:15:25,840 Speaker 1: Review Gone Wild, shines a light on the ideological takeover 190 00:15:26,000 --> 00:15:31,040 Speaker 1: of the American Political Science Review by an editing group 191 00:15:31,080 --> 00:15:37,000 Speaker 1: that dubbed itself the Feminist Collective, a group of political scientists, 192 00:15:37,040 --> 00:15:40,920 Speaker 1: so to speak, who pledged allegiance to the woe crusade 193 00:15:40,960 --> 00:15:46,280 Speaker 1: against alleged systemic oppression. It's all about the oppression with 194 00:15:46,360 --> 00:15:50,600 Speaker 1: these folks. Timothy Manella, the senior Constitutionalism fellow at the 195 00:15:50,600 --> 00:15:56,160 Speaker 1: Goldwater Institute's Van Sittert Center for Constitutional Advocacy. An author 196 00:15:56,200 --> 00:15:59,280 Speaker 1: of the report, joins us now in the Dan O'Donnell 197 00:15:59,320 --> 00:16:01,880 Speaker 1: Show with Matt K. Tim. Thank you so much for 198 00:16:01,960 --> 00:16:03,000 Speaker 1: joining us. 199 00:16:04,040 --> 00:16:05,560 Speaker 2: Hi, Matt, it's great to be here with you. 200 00:16:07,320 --> 00:16:09,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm glad to have you along with us. It's 201 00:16:09,040 --> 00:16:12,920 Speaker 1: an interesting study because I think, obviously, as you and 202 00:16:12,960 --> 00:16:16,160 Speaker 1: your colleagues know, this isn't the first and it will 203 00:16:16,200 --> 00:16:22,360 Speaker 1: not be the last of these peer review science publications 204 00:16:22,800 --> 00:16:25,600 Speaker 1: that have been taken over by leftists. But give us 205 00:16:25,600 --> 00:16:29,720 Speaker 1: a sense of what the American Political Science Review is 206 00:16:29,760 --> 00:16:31,080 Speaker 1: all about. 207 00:16:32,560 --> 00:16:37,160 Speaker 3: The American Political Science Review is is, with no exaggeration, 208 00:16:37,400 --> 00:16:42,000 Speaker 3: one of the top journals so called in political science. 209 00:16:42,640 --> 00:16:46,120 Speaker 3: If you're a political scienceist and you publish in this journal, 210 00:16:46,840 --> 00:16:50,800 Speaker 3: you are pretty much set in terms of getting tenure 211 00:16:50,880 --> 00:16:54,520 Speaker 3: and getting accolades from your colleagues. And what we've seen 212 00:16:54,720 --> 00:16:57,920 Speaker 3: is in this report we show that a group of 213 00:16:57,920 --> 00:17:01,800 Speaker 3: political scientists calling it self the Feminist Collective. That's not 214 00:17:01,920 --> 00:17:05,480 Speaker 3: my term, that's their term for themselves. They took over 215 00:17:05,520 --> 00:17:10,480 Speaker 3: this journal and instituted an entirely woke agenda for the 216 00:17:10,640 --> 00:17:15,679 Speaker 3: entire review process, going so far as to promise that 217 00:17:15,760 --> 00:17:19,480 Speaker 3: they would institute a two tiered system of review for 218 00:17:19,680 --> 00:17:23,280 Speaker 3: submissions to the journals for scientific papers that were submitted 219 00:17:23,280 --> 00:17:26,840 Speaker 3: to this journal, where if you were a scholar who 220 00:17:26,920 --> 00:17:30,200 Speaker 3: was a so called scholar of color, your paper would 221 00:17:30,280 --> 00:17:34,400 Speaker 3: automatically be advanced in the review process. If you were 222 00:17:34,440 --> 00:17:38,080 Speaker 3: not a scholar of color, your paper would need to 223 00:17:38,240 --> 00:17:42,040 Speaker 3: clear an initial review stage in order to proceed in 224 00:17:42,080 --> 00:17:47,080 Speaker 3: the process. And this is just probably the most outrageous 225 00:17:47,160 --> 00:17:49,520 Speaker 3: aspect of this, But there's a lot more here in 226 00:17:49,600 --> 00:17:52,639 Speaker 3: terms of the papers that were actually getting through. And 227 00:17:52,960 --> 00:17:55,119 Speaker 3: this is really concerning because again, this is not so 228 00:17:55,240 --> 00:17:59,600 Speaker 3: obscure journal. This is a very very prominent journal in 229 00:17:59,600 --> 00:18:03,919 Speaker 3: the discy dicipline that can make or break academic careers. 230 00:18:05,760 --> 00:18:13,320 Speaker 1: So this is essentially DEI infused into the peer review 231 00:18:13,480 --> 00:18:20,080 Speaker 1: process by, as you mentioned, the Feminist Collective. Seriously, you 232 00:18:20,119 --> 00:18:24,000 Speaker 1: cannot make this stuff up. This is the insanity in 233 00:18:24,760 --> 00:18:27,399 Speaker 1: which we are living in now, forced on the left. 234 00:18:27,480 --> 00:18:34,920 Speaker 1: But isn't this basically DEI in science if you will, 235 00:18:34,920 --> 00:18:36,240 Speaker 1: in this case political science. 236 00:18:38,359 --> 00:18:42,120 Speaker 3: Absolutely. What we see in the record here is that 237 00:18:42,200 --> 00:18:47,200 Speaker 3: the Feminist Collective very clearly said we're going to favor 238 00:18:47,320 --> 00:18:54,600 Speaker 3: research that addresses topics like race, gender, sexual orientation, decolonization. 239 00:18:55,400 --> 00:18:58,600 Speaker 3: We're going to favor these as important topics that our 240 00:18:58,640 --> 00:19:02,040 Speaker 3: discipline needs to cover. And that's exactly what they did 241 00:19:02,119 --> 00:19:06,840 Speaker 3: when they were editors. About a quarter of all articles 242 00:19:06,880 --> 00:19:11,040 Speaker 3: published by them during their tenure were about these subjects. 243 00:19:11,359 --> 00:19:15,240 Speaker 3: You compare that amount a huge amount of work on 244 00:19:15,359 --> 00:19:19,120 Speaker 3: those subjects with work on the Constitution, something you would 245 00:19:19,160 --> 00:19:22,240 Speaker 3: think would be of interest to political science. There were 246 00:19:22,280 --> 00:19:27,200 Speaker 3: about three articles total during their tenure on the Constitution 247 00:19:27,560 --> 00:19:32,639 Speaker 3: compared to over one hundred articles on those topics like race, gender, 248 00:19:32,680 --> 00:19:35,280 Speaker 3: sexual orientation, and decolonization. 249 00:19:35,800 --> 00:19:37,560 Speaker 2: And so what this shows. 250 00:19:37,240 --> 00:19:40,920 Speaker 3: Is that this is the yard stick. Getting published in 251 00:19:40,960 --> 00:19:44,159 Speaker 3: a journal like this is a yardstick to show that 252 00:19:44,359 --> 00:19:49,480 Speaker 3: you're a legitimate scholar. Your work advances knowledge in this discipline. 253 00:19:49,720 --> 00:19:53,040 Speaker 3: This is a yard stick. And because public universities and 254 00:19:53,160 --> 00:19:56,600 Speaker 3: universities of all stripes are using this as a measuring 255 00:19:56,640 --> 00:19:59,280 Speaker 3: stick for their faculty to say this person's legitimate, this 256 00:19:59,359 --> 00:20:03,639 Speaker 3: person should the advanced or get tenure. That's why people 257 00:20:03,640 --> 00:20:07,200 Speaker 3: should be concerned about this is when the ideology takes 258 00:20:07,320 --> 00:20:12,800 Speaker 3: over the scholarship and becomes more important than doing legitimate scholarship. 259 00:20:13,320 --> 00:20:17,000 Speaker 3: It degrades the whole academic research process, and that should 260 00:20:17,000 --> 00:20:18,680 Speaker 3: concern every American. 261 00:20:20,080 --> 00:20:22,359 Speaker 1: Indeed, but I think it is part and parcel of 262 00:20:22,440 --> 00:20:25,920 Speaker 1: what we're seeing in American higher education, what we've seen 263 00:20:26,440 --> 00:20:30,680 Speaker 1: for a long time now than the leftist control the operation, 264 00:20:31,240 --> 00:20:34,399 Speaker 1: They of course controlled the operation thanks in no small 265 00:20:34,440 --> 00:20:39,920 Speaker 1: part the taxpayer dollars. Timothy Manella, Senior Constitutionalism Fellow at 266 00:20:39,920 --> 00:20:42,800 Speaker 1: the Goldwater Institute, joining us on the Dan O'Donnells Show 267 00:20:42,840 --> 00:20:47,400 Speaker 1: with this interesting new report, Peer Review Gone Wild. It's 268 00:20:47,480 --> 00:20:52,520 Speaker 1: looking at the American Political Science Review and the Feminist 269 00:20:52,640 --> 00:20:59,080 Speaker 1: collective editors in charge. Tim they's this collective? How did 270 00:20:59,119 --> 00:21:05,560 Speaker 1: they get to be in charge? And this smells of litigation? 271 00:21:05,920 --> 00:21:10,000 Speaker 1: That is to say, uh, it stinks of discrimination. Are 272 00:21:10,040 --> 00:21:12,560 Speaker 1: there any is there any movement on that front? Is 273 00:21:12,600 --> 00:21:16,600 Speaker 1: that a possibility that there could be a lawsuit against 274 00:21:16,640 --> 00:21:21,280 Speaker 1: the Feminist collective? And this, uh, this periodical. 275 00:21:22,160 --> 00:21:26,240 Speaker 3: I'm I'm unaware of any pending legislation litigation on this, 276 00:21:27,080 --> 00:21:31,560 Speaker 3: but I completely agree with what you're what you're suggesting 277 00:21:31,640 --> 00:21:36,200 Speaker 3: here that if if you, as a business owner, came 278 00:21:36,240 --> 00:21:40,639 Speaker 3: out and said I'm going to when i'm reviewing resumes, 279 00:21:41,200 --> 00:21:44,919 Speaker 3: I'm going to automatically advance the resume of the person 280 00:21:44,960 --> 00:21:49,760 Speaker 3: of a certain race that you would be inviting really 281 00:21:49,840 --> 00:21:53,000 Speaker 3: expensive lawsuits, and rightly so, because there should be no 282 00:21:53,160 --> 00:21:56,800 Speaker 3: room for racial discrimination in this country. But in a 283 00:21:56,800 --> 00:22:01,000 Speaker 3: an elite academic journal, this is exactly what they promised 284 00:22:01,040 --> 00:22:04,800 Speaker 3: to do. They promised to do this in their proposal 285 00:22:05,400 --> 00:22:08,320 Speaker 3: to the American Political Science Association that's the publisher of 286 00:22:08,359 --> 00:22:10,680 Speaker 3: this journal. This is what they said they were going 287 00:22:10,720 --> 00:22:14,480 Speaker 3: to do in the proposal, the application they submitted to 288 00:22:14,560 --> 00:22:17,800 Speaker 3: become editors of this journal for a four year term. 289 00:22:18,400 --> 00:22:22,439 Speaker 3: They upright up, they outright said this is what we 290 00:22:22,560 --> 00:22:26,359 Speaker 3: planned to do. And the American Political Science Association read 291 00:22:26,359 --> 00:22:29,359 Speaker 3: that proposal and said sounds good to us, and hired 292 00:22:29,400 --> 00:22:33,159 Speaker 3: them to be editors or chose them to be editors. 293 00:22:33,000 --> 00:22:33,760 Speaker 2: Of this journal. 294 00:22:34,080 --> 00:22:37,879 Speaker 3: And so there's a lot of corruption here. And I 295 00:22:37,960 --> 00:22:41,840 Speaker 3: think again, anyone who's concerned with the quality of public 296 00:22:41,960 --> 00:22:46,399 Speaker 3: education in this country, at including public universities, should really 297 00:22:46,440 --> 00:22:48,240 Speaker 3: be concerned about what's happening here. 298 00:22:49,800 --> 00:22:52,560 Speaker 1: I hinted at it before, But tim are their tax 299 00:22:52,640 --> 00:22:58,080 Speaker 1: dollars going into the production the publication of the American 300 00:22:58,119 --> 00:22:59,439 Speaker 1: Political Science Review. 301 00:23:01,520 --> 00:23:07,119 Speaker 3: So I don't have exact figures for this. But you, 302 00:23:07,359 --> 00:23:09,840 Speaker 3: of course, and probably many of your readers, know that 303 00:23:09,880 --> 00:23:13,200 Speaker 3: the federal government is a huge funder of academic research 304 00:23:13,240 --> 00:23:17,000 Speaker 3: of various times, and not just in the hard sciences, 305 00:23:17,040 --> 00:23:20,679 Speaker 3: in a number of various disciplines. So it not surprised 306 00:23:20,720 --> 00:23:23,480 Speaker 3: me at all that a lot of the research that's 307 00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:28,639 Speaker 3: published in this journal was supported by taxpayers. But in 308 00:23:28,680 --> 00:23:31,280 Speaker 3: addition to that, I think this is even more crucial. 309 00:23:31,920 --> 00:23:35,240 Speaker 3: There are many articles that we go over in this paper, 310 00:23:36,280 --> 00:23:39,520 Speaker 3: not to mention the editors of the journal who had 311 00:23:39,640 --> 00:23:45,919 Speaker 3: jobs at public universities, prominent public universities. And what this 312 00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:51,640 Speaker 3: shows is that taxpayers, by paying their salaries, are indirectly 313 00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:56,280 Speaker 3: funding the time that they have to pump out really 314 00:23:56,880 --> 00:24:01,040 Speaker 3: dubious academic work like the stuff we found in this report, 315 00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:05,040 Speaker 3: and that is very concerning. And the gold Or Institute 316 00:24:05,040 --> 00:24:09,720 Speaker 3: where I work has developed a proposal for a reform 317 00:24:10,320 --> 00:24:13,919 Speaker 3: that brings some accountability to this, that says, if you 318 00:24:14,080 --> 00:24:19,040 Speaker 3: want time away from teaching in your pushy professor job 319 00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:23,000 Speaker 3: to do this research that you say is advancing human knowledge, 320 00:24:23,359 --> 00:24:27,240 Speaker 3: you've got to come through a process to at least 321 00:24:27,320 --> 00:24:30,399 Speaker 3: check that this is a legitimate project, that it's not 322 00:24:30,840 --> 00:24:36,120 Speaker 3: just another woke project. And that's how I think we're 323 00:24:36,119 --> 00:24:39,360 Speaker 3: going to bring accountability this process, so that taxpayers are 324 00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:42,119 Speaker 3: no longer on the hook for a lot of this 325 00:24:42,240 --> 00:24:47,360 Speaker 3: dubious research that does not really advance human knowledge. 326 00:24:47,520 --> 00:24:50,160 Speaker 1: I just have a minute or two left. But there 327 00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:55,600 Speaker 1: are some really wacky articles and studies, however you want 328 00:24:55,600 --> 00:24:59,320 Speaker 1: to define it, published in the American Political Science Review. 329 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:03,879 Speaker 1: Give us a little shampling of the kind of content 330 00:25:04,280 --> 00:25:10,440 Speaker 1: that folks are reading these days thanks to the feminist collectives. 331 00:25:11,880 --> 00:25:13,119 Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely so. 332 00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:18,880 Speaker 3: One author has an article where he he advocates for 333 00:25:19,280 --> 00:25:24,720 Speaker 3: reparations to indigenous people for their so called earthwork that 334 00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:30,119 Speaker 3: they do in combating climate change. There's another article that 335 00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:36,080 Speaker 3: looks over the politics of superheroes, including such figures as 336 00:25:36,119 --> 00:25:40,600 Speaker 3: the Punisher, which this author says becomes an emblem of 337 00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:45,640 Speaker 3: quote unquote white male grievance. And then, of course, there 338 00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:49,400 Speaker 3: is an article in which the author endorses the quote 339 00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:54,680 Speaker 3: unquote socialization of housework. This is the kind of elite 340 00:25:54,880 --> 00:26:00,440 Speaker 3: academic research that is being rubber stamped in this parent 341 00:26:00,760 --> 00:26:03,879 Speaker 3: in one of the top journals in political science. The 342 00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:05,960 Speaker 3: rot goes very very deep here. 343 00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:10,040 Speaker 1: Well, the next time I do the dishes in the house. 344 00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:12,240 Speaker 1: I'm going to talk to my wife about the socialism 345 00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:17,280 Speaker 1: of housework and how I'm oppressed because the kids won't 346 00:26:17,320 --> 00:26:19,720 Speaker 1: scrape off the dishes like I tell them to, all 347 00:26:19,760 --> 00:26:22,160 Speaker 1: of that sort of thing. And and by the way, 348 00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:25,960 Speaker 1: are some of these political scientists, so to speak, living 349 00:26:26,040 --> 00:26:28,800 Speaker 1: in their mother's basements and eating hot pockets. That's what 350 00:26:28,840 --> 00:26:29,720 Speaker 1: it sounds like to me. 351 00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:37,399 Speaker 3: So I think, in fact that is the usually not 352 00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:40,600 Speaker 3: the case for someone publishing in this journal. I think 353 00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:44,239 Speaker 3: more often than not they have very stable jobs, and 354 00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:47,800 Speaker 3: many of them at public universities. And that's the problem, 355 00:26:48,160 --> 00:26:52,359 Speaker 3: is that these are the people who are teaching students 356 00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:56,120 Speaker 3: at public universities and universities in general. And you can 357 00:26:56,200 --> 00:26:59,720 Speaker 3: see how far to the less the population is here. 358 00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:02,320 Speaker 3: And I think that's another issue that we need to 359 00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:06,800 Speaker 3: deal with, this very lopsided ideological imbalance here. 360 00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:11,159 Speaker 1: I think that's a critical point because we have the 361 00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:13,680 Speaker 1: President of the United States doing what so many of 362 00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:17,320 Speaker 1: us voted for, and that was issuing executive orders to 363 00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:21,280 Speaker 1: end DEI. At least there won't be any federal tax 364 00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:26,320 Speaker 1: dollars going to DTI institutions DEI institutions of higher education. 365 00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:31,040 Speaker 1: You know the state of Wisconsin has moved to you know, 366 00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:34,199 Speaker 1: to get rid of these kinds of things. Other states 367 00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:37,040 Speaker 1: have done so, but we just see it all going underground. 368 00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:42,000 Speaker 1: And what we see from this report, Peer Review Gone Wild, 369 00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:46,520 Speaker 1: we just see so many different tentacles of this very 370 00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:52,360 Speaker 1: discriminatory radical left viewpoint that is the exclusive viewpoint at 371 00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:56,280 Speaker 1: places like the University of Wisconsin, Madison. Tim, thank you 372 00:27:56,320 --> 00:27:58,600 Speaker 1: so much for your time. It's a very interesting report. 373 00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:02,879 Speaker 1: Where can our listeners find this report, Peer Review Gone Wild? 374 00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:07,639 Speaker 3: You can find us at Goldwaterinstitute dot org, where you 375 00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:11,679 Speaker 3: can also take a look at our proposed reform that 376 00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:14,520 Speaker 3: addresses the issues that we identify in this report. 377 00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:22,040 Speaker 1: Very good, sir, Timothy Manella, Senior Constitutional Constitutionalism Fellow at 378 00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:27,040 Speaker 1: the Goldwater Institute's Van Sittard Center for Constitutional Advocacy. He 379 00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:31,040 Speaker 1: is author of that report. Tim, Merry Christmas to you. 380 00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:33,840 Speaker 2: Merry Christmas. Thank you very much. 381 00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:39,720 Speaker 1: Matt, you bet it is. It is fascinating. I'm hoping though, 382 00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:48,600 Speaker 1: that there is no video showing the feminist collective getting 383 00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:57,360 Speaker 1: involved in their their crusade on oppression. That could be 384 00:28:58,560 --> 00:29:00,240 Speaker 1: it could be too much to watch. As a matter 385 00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:06,360 Speaker 1: of fact, we'll delve into some more issues on this front. 386 00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:09,200 Speaker 1: Coming up in just a bit, and in the four 387 00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:11,160 Speaker 1: o'clock hour, we're going to talk a little bit more 388 00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:16,520 Speaker 1: about the Wisconsin State Supreme Courts, a little rigging of 389 00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:22,400 Speaker 1: the map making process, the leftist maps were not leftist enough. 390 00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:25,840 Speaker 1: We'll have a conversation with Daniel Sir, President of the 391 00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:30,120 Speaker 1: Center for American Rights, coming up around four to twenty 392 00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:33,240 Speaker 1: this afternoon. So much more to do on this Wednesday 393 00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:35,960 Speaker 1: edition of The Dan o'donnald Show with Matt Kitt'll stay 394 00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:43,200 Speaker 1: with us Mary New Year, Well, we're not there yet, 395 00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:49,800 Speaker 1: but it is the season. Get ready for that, Get 396 00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:54,080 Speaker 1: ready for yours truly to do some pant shopping by 397 00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:56,000 Speaker 1: the time it's all said and men, I ate a 398 00:29:57,960 --> 00:30:02,840 Speaker 1: I ate a grotesque amount of turkey stuffing mashed potatoes 399 00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:09,160 Speaker 1: over Thanksgiving and well things things could could get rough 400 00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:14,240 Speaker 1: for this guy by the time the New Year comes about. 401 00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:18,440 Speaker 1: You know, it's nice to see when the Democrats share 402 00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:24,320 Speaker 1: their vacation videos. They can be troublesome, that's for sure. 403 00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:27,600 Speaker 1: If you've ever been invited to the neighbors, you know, hey, 404 00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:33,640 Speaker 1: we got some vacation slides, kenne It can get a 405 00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:37,479 Speaker 1: little long and boring, but not this one. Not as 406 00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:43,240 Speaker 1: the Democrats in Congress are looking to make hay on 407 00:30:43,320 --> 00:30:48,280 Speaker 1: the Epstein files political hay that is, and let's just 408 00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:53,280 Speaker 1: say that might not be the best idea for them, 409 00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:59,800 Speaker 1: might not be the best strategy for them they had 410 00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:05,000 Speaker 1: I'm from Fox News today. Epstein island compounds seen in 411 00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:10,800 Speaker 1: new photos released by House Dems. Democrats from the House 412 00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:14,960 Speaker 1: Committee on Oversight and Government Reform announced Wednesday that they 413 00:31:15,040 --> 00:31:20,360 Speaker 1: have quote received never before seen photos and videos of 414 00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:27,520 Speaker 1: Jeffrey Epstein's private island that are harrowing. Are a harrowing 415 00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:33,320 Speaker 1: look behind Epstein's closed doors pedophile island, as it is 416 00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:37,520 Speaker 1: commonly referred to. See for yourself. We won't stop fighting 417 00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:42,040 Speaker 1: until we end this cover up and deliver justice for 418 00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:48,959 Speaker 1: the survivor's Oversight Dems wrote on x that's very interesting 419 00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:54,880 Speaker 1: that they are going to be the warriors to stop 420 00:31:55,000 --> 00:32:01,800 Speaker 1: this cover up when their man in office, or at 421 00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:07,040 Speaker 1: least the people who ran the office for their dementia 422 00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:13,640 Speaker 1: ridden man, had the power, had the ability to release 423 00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:20,680 Speaker 1: these files again for four years. But here's the bigger problem, 424 00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:24,760 Speaker 1: I think for the Democrats in their zeal to release 425 00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:29,600 Speaker 1: this information which admittedly should be released. That's why the 426 00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:34,800 Speaker 1: President of the United States, Donald Trump, signed in order 427 00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:41,840 Speaker 1: recently a law that opens these up, gets this information 428 00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:47,480 Speaker 1: out there, and the Democrats say, Okay, good golad, you're 429 00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:50,960 Speaker 1: finally joining the party here, Donald Trump, because you've been 430 00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:55,200 Speaker 1: trying to suppress this information. Blah blah blah blah blah. 431 00:32:55,760 --> 00:32:58,400 Speaker 1: Trump has said on many occasions, I had nothing to 432 00:32:58,480 --> 00:33:03,880 Speaker 1: hide here. Okay, you want it, here you go, Here 433 00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:09,840 Speaker 1: you go. Here's Bill Clinton, which, of course the accomplished 434 00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:14,440 Speaker 1: media doesn't like to mention because that gets into their 435 00:33:14,560 --> 00:33:18,240 Speaker 1: narrative that Trump and false as it is that Trump 436 00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:24,400 Speaker 1: and Epstein were big time buddies. How many times did 437 00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:28,440 Speaker 1: Epstein go to the White House during the Clinton years? 438 00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:38,360 Speaker 1: How many times did Epstein and Clinton get together? Reid Hoffmann, again, 439 00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:42,880 Speaker 1: the big tech billionaire who has been a sugar daddy 440 00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:47,120 Speaker 1: for all leftist causes, who has recently said, yes, we 441 00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:49,240 Speaker 1: need to get all of this information out there. We 442 00:33:49,320 --> 00:33:53,200 Speaker 1: need to make sure that the American people know who's 443 00:33:53,280 --> 00:33:57,560 Speaker 1: behind this cover up and who are these sleezes are, 444 00:33:58,200 --> 00:34:02,800 Speaker 1: who took advantage of these kids, who molested these kids, 445 00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:08,480 Speaker 1: And of course read Hoffmann as we find out took 446 00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:13,520 Speaker 1: a trip in the island. So that I'm saying, I 447 00:34:13,560 --> 00:34:18,839 Speaker 1: mean this zeal that the Democrats have to get this 448 00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:24,240 Speaker 1: information out there first and foremost, Where was that zeal 449 00:34:25,160 --> 00:34:31,720 Speaker 1: between twenty twenty one and early twenty twenty five. Second 450 00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:35,480 Speaker 1: thing is you want to talk about a political bomb 451 00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:39,640 Speaker 1: that has already and will continue to blow up in 452 00:34:39,680 --> 00:34:44,879 Speaker 1: the faces of the Democrat Party in this country. They 453 00:34:44,920 --> 00:34:47,319 Speaker 1: go on to say in their little X message, this 454 00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:53,160 Speaker 1: production and they're talking about this newly released these newly 455 00:34:53,200 --> 00:34:58,719 Speaker 1: released photos of pedophile Island, Epstein's Island. This production is 456 00:34:58,760 --> 00:35:01,359 Speaker 1: in response to an overse committee request to the US 457 00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:04,680 Speaker 1: Virgin Islands Department of Justice for additional information to aid 458 00:35:04,680 --> 00:35:08,240 Speaker 1: in the ongoing committee investigation. Blah blah blah. The committee 459 00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:13,560 Speaker 1: also received records from JP Morgan and Deutsche Bank. Oversight 460 00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:16,640 Speaker 1: Democrats intend to release files to the public after review 461 00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:22,680 Speaker 1: in the days ahead. Again, it is important to note 462 00:35:22,719 --> 00:35:28,120 Speaker 1: that President Trump announced last month that he signed legislation 463 00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:33,120 Speaker 1: greenlighting the Justice Department to release files related to the 464 00:35:33,360 --> 00:35:38,600 Speaker 1: late financier and convicted sex offender Jeffrey Epstein. The photos 465 00:35:38,680 --> 00:35:43,839 Speaker 1: and video released by the House Oversight Dems purportedly show 466 00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:49,080 Speaker 1: various rooms inside buildings on Little Saint James Island in 467 00:35:49,160 --> 00:35:54,160 Speaker 1: the US Virgin Islands, as well as other locations on 468 00:35:54,520 --> 00:36:00,759 Speaker 1: Epstein's isle. The Epstein Files Transparency Act specificly directs the 469 00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:05,800 Speaker 1: Justice Department to release all unclassified records and investigative materials 470 00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:10,719 Speaker 1: related to Epstein in Galne Maxwell, as well as files 471 00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:17,360 Speaker 1: related to individuals who were referenced in Epstein's previous legal cases, 472 00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:22,919 Speaker 1: details surrounding trafficking allegations, internal DOJ communications as they relate 473 00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:27,520 Speaker 1: to Epstein, and any details surrounding the investigation into his death. 474 00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:33,600 Speaker 1: There are hundreds and hundreds of thousands of files involved 475 00:36:33,680 --> 00:36:39,680 Speaker 1: in this, and as the left knows, just as the 476 00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:46,160 Speaker 1: right knows, one of the issues that has been problematic, 477 00:36:46,239 --> 00:36:48,600 Speaker 1: to say the least, is making sure that you have 478 00:36:49,520 --> 00:36:56,440 Speaker 1: the proper information redacted, not information that gets off you know, sorry, 479 00:36:56,520 --> 00:37:01,319 Speaker 1: bad turn phrase, Not some information that hides the identity 480 00:37:01,680 --> 00:37:10,840 Speaker 1: of creeps like I don't know, Prince Andrew is certainly 481 00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:14,879 Speaker 1: having some trouble on the across the Pond and all 482 00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:17,200 Speaker 1: of these sorts of things. But there are a number 483 00:37:17,320 --> 00:37:19,480 Speaker 1: of people that are involved, and I think what a 484 00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:22,640 Speaker 1: lot of people want to know is how was Epstein 485 00:37:24,239 --> 00:37:29,879 Speaker 1: pulling strings, pushing buttons? Why was he around these folks? Well, 486 00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:33,440 Speaker 1: the first answer is that some of them are just 487 00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:38,640 Speaker 1: creepy people. The other thing is influence and the peddling 488 00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:45,960 Speaker 1: of influence, the money that was involved, how Epstein was 489 00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:50,880 Speaker 1: able to rake in all of this money, and where 490 00:37:50,920 --> 00:37:54,719 Speaker 1: that money was coming from. Those are important issues too. 491 00:37:55,520 --> 00:38:00,719 Speaker 1: But at the end of the day, this remains a 492 00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:08,239 Speaker 1: big liability for Democrats, particularly going into a midterm, a 493 00:38:08,400 --> 00:38:15,279 Speaker 1: midterm that they are confident they will have a great 494 00:38:15,280 --> 00:38:18,840 Speaker 1: deal of success in they see a big blue wave. 495 00:38:20,760 --> 00:38:24,400 Speaker 1: It's always difficult, of course for the party in power 496 00:38:24,520 --> 00:38:27,719 Speaker 1: in midterms, but it becomes a lot easier for them 497 00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:33,399 Speaker 1: if some very damaging photos and communications of Democrats from 498 00:38:33,719 --> 00:38:39,480 Speaker 1: Pedophile Island come out over their zeal to get this 499 00:38:39,560 --> 00:38:43,160 Speaker 1: information out to the public. We shall see coming up 500 00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:45,680 Speaker 1: straight ahead the second hour of the Dan O'Donnell Show. 501 00:38:45,800 --> 00:38:49,920 Speaker 1: Much to converse about, including the Wisconsin Supreme Court, the 502 00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:53,879 Speaker 1: left led Supreme Court, and what it is doing in 503 00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:59,320 Speaker 1: terms of mid decade redistricting. What it's doing, of course, 504 00:38:59,560 --> 00:39:03,400 Speaker 1: is what we all thought this Supreme Court would do. 505 00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:08,200 Speaker 1: They're rigging the system. We'll talk to legal expert Daniel 506 00:39:08,239 --> 00:39:11,960 Speaker 1: Sir on that and the twelve Days of Liberal Christmas. 507 00:39:12,440 --> 00:39:14,440 Speaker 1: That's all straight ahead, and this Wednesday edition of The 508 00:39:14,480 --> 00:39:17,600 Speaker 1: Dan o'donald Show with yours truly your old radiom ego, 509 00:39:17,600 --> 00:39:24,640 Speaker 1: Matt Kitt'll stay with us. Welcome back thrill Seekers, our 510 00:39:24,760 --> 00:39:28,759 Speaker 1: number two of our little get together on this Wednesday 511 00:39:28,880 --> 00:39:33,360 Speaker 1: edition of The Dan o'donald Show with your old radio 512 00:39:33,360 --> 00:39:35,799 Speaker 1: amigo Matt Kittle. Glad to have you along with us. 513 00:39:35,840 --> 00:39:40,839 Speaker 1: How are you our excellent producer of course, keeping us 514 00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:45,040 Speaker 1: on the straight and narrow is our good friend Eric Sir. 515 00:39:45,640 --> 00:39:49,960 Speaker 1: Thank you for doing doing the lord's work here. Really, 516 00:39:50,640 --> 00:39:56,640 Speaker 1: I know it's it's some heavy lifting whenever I'm filling in, 517 00:39:56,920 --> 00:40:02,799 Speaker 1: and it is good to have the expertise of Eric 518 00:40:03,239 --> 00:40:06,000 Speaker 1: on the board here. Coming up a little bit later 519 00:40:06,080 --> 00:40:08,640 Speaker 1: this hour, we have plenty to get to yet today 520 00:40:09,680 --> 00:40:14,520 Speaker 1: the milk toast Republicans who are having a collective tummy 521 00:40:14,600 --> 00:40:21,400 Speaker 1: ache over the quote fairness of mid decade redistricting should 522 00:40:21,440 --> 00:40:26,840 Speaker 1: take into account Democrats nationally feasting on power grabbing jerry manders, 523 00:40:27,040 --> 00:40:29,439 Speaker 1: as they are about to do here in the state 524 00:40:29,480 --> 00:40:33,360 Speaker 1: of Wisconsin, thanks once again to the big Left money 525 00:40:33,400 --> 00:40:39,000 Speaker 1: machines payments to buying the last couple of Supreme Court 526 00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:42,040 Speaker 1: elections for the left. This is what you're going to get. 527 00:40:43,120 --> 00:40:48,200 Speaker 1: Daniel Sewer will be joining us. Daniel Syr, president of 528 00:40:48,320 --> 00:40:51,840 Speaker 1: the Center for American Rights and former policy director for 529 00:40:52,040 --> 00:40:55,919 Speaker 1: Wisconsin Governor Scott Walker, will be joining us in oh 530 00:40:56,040 --> 00:40:58,640 Speaker 1: about ten to fifteen minutes or so to talk a 531 00:40:58,680 --> 00:41:03,000 Speaker 1: little bit more about what's next in the Wisconsin Supreme 532 00:41:03,080 --> 00:41:07,799 Speaker 1: Court's decision to turn a couple of lawsuits by the 533 00:41:07,880 --> 00:41:13,040 Speaker 1: left over to panels hand picked. Although we don't know 534 00:41:13,200 --> 00:41:21,479 Speaker 1: exactly what the criteria we're involved in this, but yeah, 535 00:41:21,520 --> 00:41:29,640 Speaker 1: hand picked to basically decide this issue of what the 536 00:41:29,680 --> 00:41:33,120 Speaker 1: boundary lines, the congressional boundary lines in Wisconsin looked like, 537 00:41:34,640 --> 00:41:37,760 Speaker 1: just in time for the twenty twenty six mid terms. 538 00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:41,000 Speaker 1: Oh and some interesting things on the emissions front. There 539 00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:45,080 Speaker 1: are a group of lawmakers here in Wisconsin. They're saying, hey, listen, 540 00:41:45,800 --> 00:41:49,480 Speaker 1: Wisconsin should not be on the emissions testing side of things. 541 00:41:50,760 --> 00:41:54,280 Speaker 1: That's costing us money, it's costing us resources and time. 542 00:41:54,440 --> 00:41:59,120 Speaker 1: The President had an interesting announcement on this front earlier 543 00:41:59,160 --> 00:42:02,120 Speaker 1: this afternoon. We'll talk more about that coming up. We 544 00:42:02,239 --> 00:42:06,640 Speaker 1: have the twelve Days of lib Christmas for you a 545 00:42:06,680 --> 00:42:10,840 Speaker 1: little bit later on in the hour, and then coming 546 00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:15,200 Speaker 1: up in the five o'clock hour. Dear Lord, he's lost 547 00:42:15,239 --> 00:42:21,000 Speaker 1: the Washington Post. What's going on with Tim Walls, mister 548 00:42:21,080 --> 00:42:26,400 Speaker 1: flannel shirt candidate himself. Tim Walls is having some trouble 549 00:42:26,440 --> 00:42:30,520 Speaker 1: with some Somalians and the truth, and we'll delve into 550 00:42:30,520 --> 00:42:34,080 Speaker 1: that coming up in the five o'clock hour. But here, 551 00:42:35,440 --> 00:42:44,279 Speaker 1: let us start this hour with well so interesting information. 552 00:42:44,400 --> 00:42:47,520 Speaker 1: I think that many of us have known for some time. 553 00:42:47,600 --> 00:42:51,520 Speaker 1: But we get a confirmation from the federal government of 554 00:42:51,560 --> 00:42:57,080 Speaker 1: what we've known for some time. Better late than never. 555 00:42:58,160 --> 00:43:01,200 Speaker 1: In a recent five page memo to staff at the 556 00:43:01,280 --> 00:43:08,680 Speaker 1: Center for Biologic's Evaluation and Research, the Center director and 557 00:43:08,920 --> 00:43:15,279 Speaker 1: FDA Chief Medical Officer Vena Prosad committed to acknowledging for 558 00:43:15,360 --> 00:43:21,720 Speaker 1: the first time that COVID shots have killed American children. 559 00:43:22,920 --> 00:43:28,400 Speaker 1: My Federalist colleague Jordan Boyd wrote a very good deep 560 00:43:28,520 --> 00:43:31,000 Speaker 1: dive story into all of this. You can find it 561 00:43:31,040 --> 00:43:35,319 Speaker 1: at the Federalist dot com. The headline gets at what 562 00:43:35,480 --> 00:43:40,200 Speaker 1: we've been talking about for some time, children died, and 563 00:43:40,280 --> 00:43:45,240 Speaker 1: twenty other shocking things. An FDA scientists just said about 564 00:43:45,320 --> 00:43:48,799 Speaker 1: COVID shots. Delve into a bit of this, but again, 565 00:43:48,840 --> 00:43:52,920 Speaker 1: you can find this full piece at the Federalist dot com. 566 00:43:53,000 --> 00:43:58,120 Speaker 1: Jordan begins by saying the same corporate media and expert 567 00:43:58,719 --> 00:44:04,280 Speaker 1: class so called that cheered censorship and did their best 568 00:44:04,480 --> 00:44:08,719 Speaker 1: to fact check dissent out of the discussion during the 569 00:44:08,760 --> 00:44:13,359 Speaker 1: peak of COVID panic or on edge, after a top 570 00:44:13,520 --> 00:44:17,160 Speaker 1: US Food and Drug Administration official pledged to revamp the 571 00:44:17,280 --> 00:44:23,560 Speaker 1: vaccine approval process. His commitment to reform comes on the 572 00:44:23,600 --> 00:44:27,520 Speaker 1: heels of an unreleased report that found children died after 573 00:44:27,600 --> 00:44:32,920 Speaker 1: receiving the COVID JAB. Once again, this information is not 574 00:44:33,080 --> 00:44:36,200 Speaker 1: startling to any of us paying attention over the last 575 00:44:36,640 --> 00:44:41,440 Speaker 1: several years in this country, the risks for some children 576 00:44:41,920 --> 00:44:47,040 Speaker 1: in getting the COVID shot were higher than not getting 577 00:44:47,120 --> 00:44:51,440 Speaker 1: the COVID shot, and it proved to be a fatal decision, 578 00:44:53,000 --> 00:44:58,279 Speaker 1: terribly and unfortunately. In a recent five page memo to 579 00:44:58,400 --> 00:45:02,560 Speaker 1: staff at the Center for Biologic's Evaluation, as we said, 580 00:45:03,840 --> 00:45:07,120 Speaker 1: they are now acknowledging for the first time that COVID 581 00:45:07,120 --> 00:45:12,000 Speaker 1: shots have killed American children. The report outlining the deaths 582 00:45:12,000 --> 00:45:17,759 Speaker 1: that Prisad repeatedly references is not yet public. Is paragraph 583 00:45:17,840 --> 00:45:21,640 Speaker 1: by paragraph. Analysis of the US government's response to COVID, 584 00:45:21,680 --> 00:45:26,560 Speaker 1: the COVID JAB and the Biden administration's SHOT mandates, however, 585 00:45:27,320 --> 00:45:31,640 Speaker 1: reveals more in detail about the role the FDA played 586 00:45:31,760 --> 00:45:38,719 Speaker 1: in ignoring the adverse events regulatory agencies and media repeatedly 587 00:45:38,800 --> 00:45:43,279 Speaker 1: claimed did not happen. And let's face it, this was 588 00:45:43,320 --> 00:45:47,920 Speaker 1: a theme. The SHOT issue definitely was part and parcel 589 00:45:48,080 --> 00:45:57,399 Speaker 1: of a spectrum of lies and disinformation that the so 590 00:45:57,480 --> 00:46:03,480 Speaker 1: called scientist and the administrative st the bureaucrats under the 591 00:46:03,480 --> 00:46:06,880 Speaker 1: Biden administration and in the state of Wisconsin in the 592 00:46:06,880 --> 00:46:10,000 Speaker 1: Evers administration, the bad bill of goods they sold us. 593 00:46:10,600 --> 00:46:17,279 Speaker 1: They didn't listen when very early on we understood the 594 00:46:17,440 --> 00:46:22,480 Speaker 1: mental health risks of keeping kids locked up, locked out 595 00:46:22,480 --> 00:46:29,120 Speaker 1: of schools. We're paying for that now. They didn't listen 596 00:46:30,480 --> 00:46:39,560 Speaker 1: when it should have been pretty understood to anybody, including 597 00:46:39,640 --> 00:46:47,279 Speaker 1: those that were not considered labor and business economic experts, 598 00:46:47,920 --> 00:46:50,680 Speaker 1: that if you shut down the brunt of an economy, 599 00:46:52,080 --> 00:46:58,320 Speaker 1: it's going to hurt you as a country, as a consumer, 600 00:46:59,440 --> 00:47:03,000 Speaker 1: as a tech spare. And that inflation that we've been 601 00:47:03,040 --> 00:47:09,200 Speaker 1: dealing with for so long direct result of the decisions 602 00:47:09,239 --> 00:47:13,120 Speaker 1: made in the wake of the panic over the pandemic, 603 00:47:14,960 --> 00:47:21,480 Speaker 1: and then there are the fatalities, the lives lost because 604 00:47:21,480 --> 00:47:24,680 Speaker 1: of bad decisions. As Jordan writes, at least ten children 605 00:47:25,440 --> 00:47:30,400 Speaker 1: died after the COVID jab That's a very conservative estimate 606 00:47:30,560 --> 00:47:35,239 Speaker 1: because of how this stuff is tracked. Obviously, what we 607 00:47:35,320 --> 00:47:40,480 Speaker 1: learned very early on is that we had the health 608 00:47:40,520 --> 00:47:50,399 Speaker 1: officials tracking COVID deaths with people who had comorbidities. In fact, 609 00:47:50,840 --> 00:47:54,040 Speaker 1: a COVID death could have been something that was related 610 00:47:54,120 --> 00:47:59,920 Speaker 1: to another health problem, heart disease, diabetes, all kinds of things. 611 00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:02,920 Speaker 1: COVID obviously didn't help matters, but that doesn't mean that 612 00:48:02,960 --> 00:48:07,160 Speaker 1: the individual died from COVID. And those are the two 613 00:48:07,160 --> 00:48:12,600 Speaker 1: prepositional terms that I think were very significant remain very 614 00:48:12,640 --> 00:48:21,839 Speaker 1: significant now, almost six years after died of died with 615 00:48:22,920 --> 00:48:25,440 Speaker 1: In the first paragraph of the letter to his staff, 616 00:48:26,480 --> 00:48:31,680 Speaker 1: Rasad declared that ten children have died after and because 617 00:48:31,719 --> 00:48:36,680 Speaker 1: of receiving COVID nineteen vaccination. These deaths, he continued, were 618 00:48:36,719 --> 00:48:42,799 Speaker 1: not only classified by staff as likely probable possible attribution 619 00:48:42,880 --> 00:48:47,239 Speaker 1: to the job, but also certainly an underestimate due to 620 00:48:47,840 --> 00:48:54,960 Speaker 1: underreporting and inherent bias in attribution. This safety signal has 621 00:48:55,080 --> 00:48:59,520 Speaker 1: far reaching implications for Americans, the US pandemic response and 622 00:48:59,560 --> 00:49:03,320 Speaker 1: the age see itself, which I wish to discuss here, 623 00:49:04,760 --> 00:49:09,279 Speaker 1: he added, And I think tied to all of this 624 00:49:09,640 --> 00:49:15,040 Speaker 1: is the fact that the Centers for Disease Control and 625 00:49:15,160 --> 00:49:25,840 Speaker 1: Prevention overlooked COVID shot safety signals. Some of the first 626 00:49:25,880 --> 00:49:30,279 Speaker 1: indicators that people experienced severe side effects linked to the 627 00:49:30,560 --> 00:49:36,799 Speaker 1: COVID shot were quote reports of vaccine induced my carditis. 628 00:49:38,080 --> 00:49:41,800 Speaker 1: Prasad noted that the heart inflammation appeared more in groups 629 00:49:41,880 --> 00:49:46,879 Speaker 1: such as young, healthy boys and men, those least likely 630 00:49:46,960 --> 00:49:52,080 Speaker 1: to experience bad COVID outcomes. So these heart related issues, 631 00:49:53,160 --> 00:50:01,440 Speaker 1: some of them quite severe, came out of what we 632 00:50:01,440 --> 00:50:09,040 Speaker 1: were told was the necessary route to take to make 633 00:50:09,080 --> 00:50:13,400 Speaker 1: sure we stop the spread. You know, we flattened the curve, 634 00:50:14,239 --> 00:50:16,719 Speaker 1: as they kept saying, and so we got to give 635 00:50:16,719 --> 00:50:20,400 Speaker 1: this to everybody, obviously the most vulnerable. That's where it 636 00:50:20,440 --> 00:50:26,320 Speaker 1: all began. But then very quickly into this process, young people, 637 00:50:26,440 --> 00:50:30,080 Speaker 1: otherwise healthy people were also told, you got to get 638 00:50:30,080 --> 00:50:34,239 Speaker 1: the shot so that we can avoid the spread of 639 00:50:34,280 --> 00:50:40,040 Speaker 1: this stuff. Well, we know we know about the lie 640 00:50:40,160 --> 00:50:46,520 Speaker 1: therein the risk was as high as two hundred to 641 00:50:46,640 --> 00:50:50,960 Speaker 1: three hundred thirty per million doses given in the highest 642 00:50:51,080 --> 00:50:57,759 Speaker 1: risk demographic groups, Prisad warned, despite the FDA's alleged monitoring 643 00:50:57,800 --> 00:51:01,280 Speaker 1: of their cases, Prissad said both the FDA and CDC 644 00:51:01,880 --> 00:51:05,719 Speaker 1: were not the first to recognize the safety signaled. In fact, 645 00:51:05,719 --> 00:51:12,880 Speaker 1: in April twenty twenty one, CDC director Rochelle Wolenski Rochelle 646 00:51:12,960 --> 00:51:20,640 Speaker 1: Rochelle and her journey to Minsk, claimed that her agency 647 00:51:21,440 --> 00:51:25,560 Speaker 1: had not seen a signal even though we've actually looked 648 00:51:25,600 --> 00:51:28,800 Speaker 1: intentionally for the signal in over two hundred million doses 649 00:51:28,840 --> 00:51:34,360 Speaker 1: we've given. Many felt this statement was dishonest and manipulative, 650 00:51:34,640 --> 00:51:40,760 Speaker 1: Prasad said, noting that the Israelis recognized the safety signal 651 00:51:41,280 --> 00:51:45,600 Speaker 1: that same year, and we know based on the follow 652 00:51:45,680 --> 00:51:49,840 Speaker 1: up reporting that there were a lot of things others recognized, 653 00:51:50,440 --> 00:51:54,239 Speaker 1: or at least others were honest about outside of the 654 00:51:54,320 --> 00:52:00,040 Speaker 1: United States, which saved them a lot of pain and 655 00:52:00,120 --> 00:52:03,560 Speaker 1: a lot of problems moving forward with the JAB. Anyway, 656 00:52:03,600 --> 00:52:07,040 Speaker 1: it's an interesting report. It confirms what we have known, 657 00:52:07,719 --> 00:52:10,320 Speaker 1: some of what we have suspected, and I do believe 658 00:52:11,440 --> 00:52:15,279 Speaker 1: obviously we will get more information from this so far 659 00:52:15,440 --> 00:52:19,399 Speaker 1: unreleased report. The first details coming out of it are 660 00:52:19,560 --> 00:52:23,240 Speaker 1: very concerning You can find the breakdown the full story 661 00:52:23,400 --> 00:52:26,680 Speaker 1: at the Federalist dot com, the headline as children died 662 00:52:26,719 --> 00:52:30,080 Speaker 1: and twenty other shocking things an FDA scientists just said 663 00:52:30,800 --> 00:52:35,640 Speaker 1: about COVID shots. Straight ahead, we'll get into the shocking details, 664 00:52:36,560 --> 00:52:41,640 Speaker 1: the shocking details of what the leftist led Wisconsin Supreme 665 00:52:41,760 --> 00:52:45,359 Speaker 1: Court just did. Daniel sirr Legal expert, joins us on 666 00:52:46,120 --> 00:52:50,719 Speaker 1: the quest for remapping by the Democrats to give them 667 00:52:50,800 --> 00:52:53,920 Speaker 1: every advantage heading into twenty twenty six. Stay with us 668 00:52:53,960 --> 00:52:57,200 Speaker 1: for that conversation straight ahead, but the Arstrulie Matt Kittle 669 00:52:57,280 --> 00:53:05,719 Speaker 1: on this edition of the Dan O'Donnell Show, and a 670 00:53:05,840 --> 00:53:10,719 Speaker 1: rock and Hanakah too. Thanks for joining us on the 671 00:53:10,840 --> 00:53:15,960 Speaker 1: Dan O'Donnell Show Wednesday edition on this December third, twenty 672 00:53:16,120 --> 00:53:18,399 Speaker 1: twenty five, in the Year of Our Lord. I'm your 673 00:53:18,520 --> 00:53:21,840 Speaker 1: radio talk show host Phil and Daddy Matt Kittle, so 674 00:53:21,920 --> 00:53:26,480 Speaker 1: glad to have you along with us. Well, it was 675 00:53:26,640 --> 00:53:30,600 Speaker 1: just a matter of time. Remember it wasn't too long 676 00:53:30,680 --> 00:53:34,080 Speaker 1: ago that we had some liberal justices in the Wisconsin 677 00:53:34,120 --> 00:53:36,400 Speaker 1: Supreme Court. We're not going to take up the whole 678 00:53:36,680 --> 00:53:43,279 Speaker 1: mid decade redistricting issue. We know our good pals in 679 00:53:43,360 --> 00:53:48,279 Speaker 1: the Democrat Party and our good liberal friends all on 680 00:53:48,560 --> 00:53:52,640 Speaker 1: us to jerrymander the hell out of the maps and 681 00:53:52,680 --> 00:53:56,960 Speaker 1: put it in the the advantage of the Democrats, so 682 00:53:57,040 --> 00:53:59,920 Speaker 1: we can pick up another couple of seats in the 683 00:54:00,200 --> 00:54:05,600 Speaker 1: House and get that meanal nasty grinch of a president 684 00:54:05,680 --> 00:54:11,120 Speaker 1: Donald Trump. Yeah, Supreme Court led by liberals now the 685 00:54:11,160 --> 00:54:14,040 Speaker 1: four to three majority, they weren't going to delve into that. Well, 686 00:54:14,080 --> 00:54:19,319 Speaker 1: then well things changed. Things changed. Looked around, they looked 687 00:54:19,320 --> 00:54:26,360 Speaker 1: at Gaven Newsom in California, They looked over there in Virginia, 688 00:54:26,760 --> 00:54:29,759 Speaker 1: and in Illinois just to the south, which is the 689 00:54:29,800 --> 00:54:34,080 Speaker 1: most arguably the most gerrymandered state in the nation when 690 00:54:34,080 --> 00:54:38,080 Speaker 1: it comes to congressional maps and maps in general. They said, ooh, 691 00:54:39,360 --> 00:54:42,839 Speaker 1: we got to do whatever we can do, whether it's 692 00:54:42,880 --> 00:54:48,960 Speaker 1: within the law, whether it's not strictly in the constitution, 693 00:54:49,080 --> 00:54:52,000 Speaker 1: whatever we have to do to massage the law and 694 00:54:52,080 --> 00:54:56,760 Speaker 1: the constitution will do that for power. But while milk 695 00:54:56,800 --> 00:55:01,080 Speaker 1: toast Republicans experience a collective to me ache over the 696 00:55:01,200 --> 00:55:06,799 Speaker 1: fairness of mid decade redistricting, Democrats nationally are feasting on 697 00:55:06,960 --> 00:55:12,320 Speaker 1: power grabbing jerrymanders. As just noted, the latest outflanking comes 698 00:55:12,840 --> 00:55:18,160 Speaker 1: from Wisconsin's liberal controlled Supreme Court. Daniel Sir, President of 699 00:55:18,200 --> 00:55:21,640 Speaker 1: the Center for American Rights and former policy director for 700 00:55:21,719 --> 00:55:25,839 Speaker 1: Wisconsin Governor Scott Walker, joins us now for a little 701 00:55:25,880 --> 00:55:28,799 Speaker 1: perspective on it all. Daniel, my friend, how are you. 702 00:55:30,040 --> 00:55:31,560 Speaker 2: I'm doing great, man, could be with you. 703 00:55:31,600 --> 00:55:36,320 Speaker 1: Happy Thanksgiving, Happy Thanksgiving, and Merry Christmas to you and 704 00:55:37,080 --> 00:55:42,600 Speaker 1: to your family. This is a very interesting time, of course, 705 00:55:42,640 --> 00:55:45,720 Speaker 1: because we have seen so much of the power grabbing 706 00:55:45,840 --> 00:55:51,479 Speaker 1: that's come out of California. Now understandably, we have seen 707 00:55:51,560 --> 00:55:55,120 Speaker 1: what is going on in Texas with a mid decade 708 00:55:55,360 --> 00:55:58,959 Speaker 1: change of the maps that would give Republicans an advantage there. 709 00:55:59,000 --> 00:56:01,879 Speaker 1: But as soon as that that plan was laid out, 710 00:56:01,880 --> 00:56:05,040 Speaker 1: as soon as it was approved, it was Katie bar 711 00:56:05,200 --> 00:56:07,920 Speaker 1: the door for Democrats. And now are we not seeing 712 00:56:07,960 --> 00:56:11,520 Speaker 1: the same political response from the Wisconsin Supreme Court. 713 00:56:12,960 --> 00:56:15,080 Speaker 2: Well, And what's so troubling about it, Matt, is that 714 00:56:15,120 --> 00:56:18,759 Speaker 2: it's a court and not a legislature. Right. The Wisconsin 715 00:56:18,800 --> 00:56:24,480 Speaker 2: Constitution and generally state constitutions place the responsibility for redistricting 716 00:56:25,160 --> 00:56:29,520 Speaker 2: with our elected legislators, and so in states like Indiana 717 00:56:29,920 --> 00:56:34,320 Speaker 2: and Texas, you have the legislature making a policy choice 718 00:56:34,760 --> 00:56:38,400 Speaker 2: to redistrict in the middle of the normal once a 719 00:56:38,440 --> 00:56:43,320 Speaker 2: decade cycle. Wisconsin is different because here you have activist 720 00:56:43,440 --> 00:56:48,440 Speaker 2: lawyers coming in front of activist judges and saying, regardless 721 00:56:48,480 --> 00:56:51,800 Speaker 2: of what the state constitution says, regardless of who's supposed 722 00:56:51,800 --> 00:56:54,759 Speaker 2: to be in charge, you guys need to help us 723 00:56:54,800 --> 00:56:59,440 Speaker 2: out and redistrict midyear, even though that's not your job. 724 00:57:00,160 --> 00:57:03,280 Speaker 2: Just do it anyway. And that is a significant difference 725 00:57:03,320 --> 00:57:05,880 Speaker 2: and a significant problem. 726 00:57:06,120 --> 00:57:09,640 Speaker 1: Well, they tapped this panel, did they tap that? Let 727 00:57:09,680 --> 00:57:12,000 Speaker 1: me ask you this, did they tap these two panels 728 00:57:12,040 --> 00:57:16,439 Speaker 1: to deal with the two lawsuits that were filed by 729 00:57:16,640 --> 00:57:20,560 Speaker 1: leftist groups looking for better maps for Democrats in twenty 730 00:57:20,640 --> 00:57:24,680 Speaker 1: twenty six? What does the laws say on the creation 731 00:57:24,960 --> 00:57:28,200 Speaker 1: of these panels? Daniel? And what does the laws say 732 00:57:28,960 --> 00:57:33,280 Speaker 1: about how the panels are created? That is to say, 733 00:57:33,440 --> 00:57:38,320 Speaker 1: the Wisconsin Supreme Court, the majority came up with the 734 00:57:38,440 --> 00:57:42,680 Speaker 1: members of this panel, and it just so happens that 735 00:57:42,720 --> 00:57:46,440 Speaker 1: those members are some of the more far left judges 736 00:57:47,040 --> 00:57:48,240 Speaker 1: in the state of Wisconsin. 737 00:57:49,720 --> 00:57:53,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, there's no doubt that these panels were handpicked in 738 00:57:53,400 --> 00:57:56,760 Speaker 2: a way that suggests a preference for a particular outcome. 739 00:57:56,880 --> 00:58:01,200 Speaker 2: I think that's a very fair characterization, and though the 740 00:58:01,280 --> 00:58:06,640 Speaker 2: law allows it, it is definitely contrary to the spirit 741 00:58:06,880 --> 00:58:09,120 Speaker 2: of the law. And I'm not a big spirit of 742 00:58:09,160 --> 00:58:11,920 Speaker 2: the law guy, right, I'm a textualist. But the way 743 00:58:11,960 --> 00:58:16,600 Speaker 2: the law is written, it requires these three judge panels 744 00:58:16,920 --> 00:58:19,600 Speaker 2: to be drawn from different parts of the state. And 745 00:58:19,720 --> 00:58:22,439 Speaker 2: I think the idea behind that when the legislature wrote 746 00:58:22,440 --> 00:58:24,919 Speaker 2: the law was to say, we don't want just Dane 747 00:58:25,000 --> 00:58:30,880 Speaker 2: County judges deciding on maps for the whole state. That's 748 00:58:30,920 --> 00:58:33,760 Speaker 2: not representative of the politics of the whole state, and 749 00:58:33,800 --> 00:58:36,840 Speaker 2: it's an invitation of judicial activism. So we're going to 750 00:58:36,880 --> 00:58:39,200 Speaker 2: have in place this requirement in the law that you 751 00:58:39,240 --> 00:58:41,200 Speaker 2: have to have three judges and they have to be 752 00:58:41,280 --> 00:58:45,320 Speaker 2: geographically balanced from different parts of the state. So that's 753 00:58:45,400 --> 00:58:48,840 Speaker 2: good policy, that makes sense. What those Gossip Supreme Court 754 00:58:48,840 --> 00:58:51,600 Speaker 2: did here, though, is go in the different regions and 755 00:58:51,640 --> 00:58:54,680 Speaker 2: say who is the most reliable liberal we can find 756 00:58:54,680 --> 00:58:57,760 Speaker 2: in each of these three regions, and then we'll handpick 757 00:58:57,840 --> 00:59:02,240 Speaker 2: those three people. And so we with the functional equivalent 758 00:59:02,640 --> 00:59:06,320 Speaker 2: of three Dane County judges, even if technically they're from 759 00:59:06,920 --> 00:59:11,520 Speaker 2: multiple different counties, we still get the handpicked liberal panels 760 00:59:12,040 --> 00:59:13,520 Speaker 2: that are going to tee this up the way the 761 00:59:13,520 --> 00:59:15,680 Speaker 2: liberal majority of Supreme Court wants it to go. 762 00:59:17,400 --> 00:59:19,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, let's take a look real quick, because I think 763 00:59:19,480 --> 00:59:23,960 Speaker 1: it bears repeating. I know that our excellent talk show 764 00:59:24,000 --> 00:59:28,240 Speaker 1: host on these radio stations have talked about just who 765 00:59:28,320 --> 00:59:31,800 Speaker 1: is on these panels, but I think it's important for 766 00:59:31,840 --> 00:59:35,600 Speaker 1: a refresher. One of the judges used to be the 767 00:59:35,680 --> 00:59:41,280 Speaker 1: chairman of the Marathon County Democratic Party. Another judge, if 768 00:59:41,320 --> 00:59:47,280 Speaker 1: you read his application to become a Dane County judge, 769 00:59:48,520 --> 00:59:53,880 Speaker 1: talked about basically how much he loathed the Republicans' original 770 00:59:54,040 --> 00:59:58,360 Speaker 1: redistricting congressional redistricting that goes back about a decade and 771 00:59:58,440 --> 01:00:02,120 Speaker 1: a half or so, and really spelled out what his 772 01:00:02,320 --> 01:00:07,360 Speaker 1: preferences are and basically how he would ultimately vote. How 773 01:00:07,480 --> 01:00:10,120 Speaker 1: is that fairness in the process. 774 01:00:11,520 --> 01:00:15,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not right. The short answer is, it's not 775 01:00:15,440 --> 01:00:20,480 Speaker 2: fairness in the process. There's an often used line in 776 01:00:21,160 --> 01:00:25,160 Speaker 2: lawyer circles about legislative history where we say, you know, 777 01:00:25,280 --> 01:00:28,280 Speaker 2: legislative history is looking out over a crowd and picking 778 01:00:28,360 --> 01:00:31,320 Speaker 2: out your friends, because you can basically find in a 779 01:00:31,400 --> 01:00:37,080 Speaker 2: voluminous record for any bill or any legislation something that 780 01:00:37,120 --> 01:00:39,360 Speaker 2: supports what you want, And if you're a judge, you 781 01:00:39,480 --> 01:00:41,600 Speaker 2: find what you want and you stick it in the opinion, 782 01:00:41,680 --> 01:00:45,440 Speaker 2: and that's how you justify the outcome. Well, all that 783 01:00:45,520 --> 01:00:49,560 Speaker 2: happened here was the Wisconsin Supreme Court's liberal majority looked 784 01:00:49,560 --> 01:00:52,680 Speaker 2: out over the crowd of Circuit court judges and picked 785 01:00:52,720 --> 01:00:55,680 Speaker 2: their friends. They picked the people who they knew, based 786 01:00:55,720 --> 01:00:59,919 Speaker 2: on their previous record, would be the most in qui 787 01:01:00,760 --> 01:01:06,880 Speaker 2: to reach the outcome that they were most looking for. 788 01:01:07,240 --> 01:01:11,360 Speaker 2: And we shouldn't be surprised then that already one of 789 01:01:11,360 --> 01:01:14,040 Speaker 2: these panels has announced they're going to move at blazing 790 01:01:14,200 --> 01:01:18,600 Speaker 2: fast speed in order to try to jam this down 791 01:01:19,440 --> 01:01:23,520 Speaker 2: the state's throat by the fall twenty twenty six elections, 792 01:01:23,920 --> 01:01:27,120 Speaker 2: which is incredible when you think in context for when 793 01:01:27,160 --> 01:01:29,200 Speaker 2: absentee ballots have to go out, when ballots have to 794 01:01:29,240 --> 01:01:32,200 Speaker 2: be printed, when nomination papers have to be circulated. The 795 01:01:32,240 --> 01:01:35,720 Speaker 2: idea that we could do something as big as decide 796 01:01:35,720 --> 01:01:38,240 Speaker 2: redistricting needs to be done as a matter of law 797 01:01:38,760 --> 01:01:42,320 Speaker 2: and draw new maps in a matter of a couple 798 01:01:42,400 --> 01:01:46,800 Speaker 2: of months is insanely fast speed for courts, and it 799 01:01:46,920 --> 01:01:50,440 Speaker 2: just shows this chain of train is chugging down the 800 01:01:50,480 --> 01:01:52,200 Speaker 2: tracks in a particular direction. 801 01:01:53,840 --> 01:01:57,760 Speaker 1: Indeed, Daniel Sir, President of the Center for American Rights 802 01:01:57,800 --> 01:02:02,240 Speaker 1: and former policy director for Wisconsin Governor Scott Walker, joins 803 01:02:02,320 --> 01:02:05,600 Speaker 1: US now to talk about what the left led Supreme 804 01:02:05,720 --> 01:02:11,160 Speaker 1: Court hath done in the way of convenient maps for 805 01:02:11,280 --> 01:02:14,960 Speaker 1: the Democrats. You've seen this movie before, and you can see, 806 01:02:15,360 --> 01:02:18,439 Speaker 1: as Daniel just noted, where this train appears to be headed. 807 01:02:18,480 --> 01:02:22,200 Speaker 1: It's interesting you note about the timing of all of this. 808 01:02:22,400 --> 01:02:27,600 Speaker 1: The Wisconsin Institute for Law and Liberty today filed a 809 01:02:27,600 --> 01:02:31,760 Speaker 1: couple of motions to intervene in these lawsuits, arguing that 810 01:02:31,920 --> 01:02:36,480 Speaker 1: imposing new districts now would violate federal law and the 811 01:02:36,600 --> 01:02:41,000 Speaker 1: US Constitution. On behalf of a group of Wisconsin voters 812 01:02:41,400 --> 01:02:47,200 Speaker 1: will filed motions to intervene, arguing the challenges are time 813 01:02:47,280 --> 01:02:50,920 Speaker 1: barred and that the newly appointed panel does not have 814 01:02:51,000 --> 01:02:55,200 Speaker 1: the authority to overrule the state Supreme Court's earlier decision 815 01:02:55,920 --> 01:03:00,960 Speaker 1: approving the current congressional lines. And it is interesting to note, Daniel, 816 01:03:01,480 --> 01:03:10,320 Speaker 1: that previous decision approved Governor Tony Ever's congressional lines. That 817 01:03:10,480 --> 01:03:15,640 Speaker 1: tells you just what kind of manipulation this is truly 818 01:03:15,680 --> 01:03:18,360 Speaker 1: all about. But what do you say to the Wisconsin 819 01:03:18,400 --> 01:03:20,360 Speaker 1: Institute of law and liberties arguments here. 820 01:03:21,480 --> 01:03:25,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, huge applause to Will for taking this on. One 821 01:03:25,280 --> 01:03:28,080 Speaker 2: of the realities of our system is that the state's 822 01:03:28,120 --> 01:03:32,560 Speaker 2: attorney general, Josh Call, is responsible for defending state laws. 823 01:03:33,120 --> 01:03:35,760 Speaker 2: And in this case, Josh Call is a partisan Democrat, 824 01:03:36,360 --> 01:03:40,439 Speaker 2: And though he has a responsibility to defend state law, 825 01:03:41,040 --> 01:03:45,400 Speaker 2: lawyers always have flexibility about how they defend state law 826 01:03:45,400 --> 01:03:48,160 Speaker 2: and what arguments they make. And so it's really important 827 01:03:48,720 --> 01:03:52,920 Speaker 2: for the congressional delegation, the members were actually elected under 828 01:03:52,960 --> 01:03:58,840 Speaker 2: these maps, and for conservative voters represented by folks like 829 01:03:58,920 --> 01:04:02,960 Speaker 2: Will to engage in this process, to stand up for 830 01:04:03,000 --> 01:04:07,880 Speaker 2: their legal rights, to make the necessary arguments, and really 831 01:04:07,920 --> 01:04:13,200 Speaker 2: provide the court with a full picture of the arguments, 832 01:04:13,240 --> 01:04:16,919 Speaker 2: because you know, we just can't necessarily automatically assume Josh 833 01:04:17,000 --> 01:04:19,880 Speaker 2: Calls is going to do that, especially given how he 834 01:04:19,960 --> 01:04:25,680 Speaker 2: has argued in previous redistricting cases. And you know, your 835 01:04:26,200 --> 01:04:29,880 Speaker 2: line from the Will pressure release, I think points exactly 836 01:04:30,000 --> 01:04:33,360 Speaker 2: right to the major problems here. These cases could have 837 01:04:33,400 --> 01:04:38,840 Speaker 2: been brought years ago when these maps were first announced. 838 01:04:39,240 --> 01:04:41,880 Speaker 2: They were not right. They weren't because it wasn't a 839 01:04:41,920 --> 01:04:44,840 Speaker 2: liberal majority at the time. These folks waited until there 840 01:04:44,840 --> 01:04:47,800 Speaker 2: was a liberal majority, and there was at the time 841 01:04:48,240 --> 01:04:51,680 Speaker 2: a majority that already has ruled to uphold these maps. 842 01:04:52,080 --> 01:04:55,560 Speaker 2: And so how three state trial court judges could have 843 01:04:55,600 --> 01:04:59,280 Speaker 2: the power to overrule what the state Supreme Court has 844 01:04:59,280 --> 01:05:02,120 Speaker 2: already done is a real head scratcher. So those are 845 01:05:02,160 --> 01:05:04,320 Speaker 2: important arguments that need to be made, and I'm glad 846 01:05:04,320 --> 01:05:05,920 Speaker 2: Will was making them. 847 01:05:06,520 --> 01:05:09,280 Speaker 1: Well, it ties into something I think that is interesting 848 01:05:09,400 --> 01:05:15,920 Speaker 1: playing out here politically and psychologically. Do the liberal members 849 01:05:16,080 --> 01:05:20,680 Speaker 1: of the Supreme Court, the four members that control the 850 01:05:20,720 --> 01:05:24,480 Speaker 1: Supreme Court, do they think they're washing their hands of 851 01:05:24,520 --> 01:05:28,640 Speaker 1: this matter? And that ties into the failure to recuse 852 01:05:28,960 --> 01:05:33,800 Speaker 1: by two justices, that being Susan Crawford and Janet Protosowitz, 853 01:05:34,560 --> 01:05:40,160 Speaker 1: who have some really clear conflicts of interest. Susan Crawford, 854 01:05:40,280 --> 01:05:46,760 Speaker 1: just briefly, we know that she attended a donor advisory 855 01:05:47,080 --> 01:05:50,640 Speaker 1: meeting in January in which they were talking about how 856 01:05:50,680 --> 01:05:53,720 Speaker 1: important it was that Susan Crawford win so that the 857 01:05:53,760 --> 01:05:59,000 Speaker 1: Democrats could take back two seats in Congress from Wisconsin. 858 01:05:59,480 --> 01:06:02,080 Speaker 1: This whole thing is filled with conflict. 859 01:06:03,560 --> 01:06:09,120 Speaker 2: It absolutely is, Matt. It's really unfortunate how our standards 860 01:06:09,120 --> 01:06:13,920 Speaker 2: for judicial ethics have been disregarded in recent state Supreme 861 01:06:13,920 --> 01:06:22,520 Speaker 2: Court races where candidates feel empowered to communicate their values 862 01:06:23,320 --> 01:06:27,360 Speaker 2: without announcing particular positions, or to join, you know, donor 863 01:06:27,400 --> 01:06:31,080 Speaker 2: meetings where other people say the things that judges can't say, 864 01:06:31,520 --> 01:06:36,120 Speaker 2: but in ways that really compromise public faith in our judiciary. 865 01:06:36,160 --> 01:06:40,480 Speaker 2: It's really unfortunate, and you wish people would recognize that, 866 01:06:40,960 --> 01:06:45,440 Speaker 2: take responsibility for it, and recuse when these kind of 867 01:06:45,520 --> 01:06:48,600 Speaker 2: cases come up, but they don't. And so the result 868 01:06:48,640 --> 01:06:52,400 Speaker 2: will be that when the Wisconsin Supreme Court does eventually 869 01:06:52,440 --> 01:06:57,360 Speaker 2: hear whatever appeal comes out of these three judge panels, 870 01:06:57,520 --> 01:07:00,720 Speaker 2: that the public is rightly going to look cascants at 871 01:07:00,720 --> 01:07:04,520 Speaker 2: this and ask where these issues decided before the party 872 01:07:04,560 --> 01:07:07,640 Speaker 2: has ever got their day in court. And that's just 873 01:07:07,720 --> 01:07:13,200 Speaker 2: really detrimental to faith in our democracy, faith in our judiciary. 874 01:07:14,280 --> 01:07:18,360 Speaker 2: And it's a sad consequence of the sort of brutal 875 01:07:18,480 --> 01:07:23,800 Speaker 2: campaigns that have unfortunately defined left wing candidates for the 876 01:07:23,800 --> 01:07:24,880 Speaker 2: Wisconsin Supreme Court. 877 01:07:24,880 --> 01:07:28,919 Speaker 1: The last few cycles, just a minute left with Daniels, Sir, 878 01:07:29,240 --> 01:07:32,320 Speaker 1: President of the Center for American Rights, joining us on 879 01:07:32,360 --> 01:07:35,680 Speaker 1: the Dan O'Donnell's show, and then the question is this, 880 01:07:36,960 --> 01:07:41,960 Speaker 1: where do you think the Wisconsin situation is going. And 881 01:07:42,000 --> 01:07:44,959 Speaker 1: then where do you think that all of these mid 882 01:07:45,080 --> 01:07:52,800 Speaker 1: decade redistricting laws plans are going. I mean, California, Texas, 883 01:07:53,000 --> 01:07:56,400 Speaker 1: talk of it in Illinois and Virginia and elsewhere. Where 884 01:07:56,480 --> 01:07:57,320 Speaker 1: is all of this heading? 885 01:07:59,240 --> 01:08:01,560 Speaker 2: Yeah. My hope is then in twenty twenty six we 886 01:08:01,640 --> 01:08:08,600 Speaker 2: will see a sufficiently strong majority in Congress frankly for 887 01:08:08,680 --> 01:08:11,640 Speaker 2: either party obviously I prefer Republicans, but for either party 888 01:08:12,080 --> 01:08:16,639 Speaker 2: that these incremental changes of one or two seats don't matter. 889 01:08:17,080 --> 01:08:19,400 Speaker 2: You know, we used to live in a world where 890 01:08:20,040 --> 01:08:22,439 Speaker 2: you know, Tip O'Neil would have a twenty seat majority, 891 01:08:22,479 --> 01:08:25,719 Speaker 2: thirty forty seat majority in the House, and so tinkering 892 01:08:25,760 --> 01:08:29,439 Speaker 2: around the edges or one incumbent passing away or somebody 893 01:08:29,479 --> 01:08:32,200 Speaker 2: retiring at a particular date to take another job like 894 01:08:32,240 --> 01:08:36,120 Speaker 2: it didn't throw the majority into question. And in more 895 01:08:36,120 --> 01:08:38,400 Speaker 2: recent times, we've lived in a world where you know, 896 01:08:38,439 --> 01:08:40,720 Speaker 2: two or three seats, four seats, five seats really makes 897 01:08:40,760 --> 01:08:45,200 Speaker 2: the difference. And so you have somebody die or something 898 01:08:45,280 --> 01:08:49,320 Speaker 2: like that, and these these incremental changes really can change 899 01:08:49,360 --> 01:08:53,639 Speaker 2: the majority. So the hope is that Americans rally around 900 01:08:53,640 --> 01:08:59,959 Speaker 2: a public policy agenda that gives a mandate to leadership 901 01:09:00,040 --> 01:09:02,760 Speaker 2: in Congress, I think short of that, immediately to Wisconsin. 902 01:09:03,400 --> 01:09:06,160 Speaker 2: You know, we need to pump the brakes here. Stop 903 01:09:06,240 --> 01:09:12,480 Speaker 2: this blazing fast speed that is characterizing these cases. Respect 904 01:09:12,520 --> 01:09:17,040 Speaker 2: the role of local municipal clerks and the Wisconsin Elections 905 01:09:17,040 --> 01:09:24,599 Speaker 2: Commission and military voters overseas in having predictable, stable election 906 01:09:24,760 --> 01:09:28,120 Speaker 2: system for twenty twenty six, and let this litigation play 907 01:09:28,120 --> 01:09:31,880 Speaker 2: out at a normal pace rather than trying to jam 908 01:09:31,960 --> 01:09:34,640 Speaker 2: something through in a couple of months. That's going to 909 01:09:34,680 --> 01:09:37,200 Speaker 2: throw the whole system into chaos. That's not good for anybody. 910 01:09:38,760 --> 01:09:41,599 Speaker 1: Well, if they jam something through, we know this for sure, 911 01:09:41,760 --> 01:09:47,840 Speaker 1: which we knew before, and that is in legal terminology. 912 01:09:48,120 --> 01:09:52,360 Speaker 1: The left, the Wisconsin Democrat Party, has no standing when 913 01:09:52,400 --> 01:09:57,120 Speaker 1: they talk about how unfair Republican drawn maps are. We 914 01:09:57,240 --> 01:10:00,240 Speaker 1: need never and we shouldn't have to begin with. Listen 915 01:10:00,280 --> 01:10:05,439 Speaker 1: to those kinds of arguments again, species at best. Daniel, 916 01:10:05,439 --> 01:10:07,280 Speaker 1: Thanks so much for your time and your perspective will 917 01:10:07,320 --> 01:10:08,240 Speaker 1: be interesting to watch. 918 01:10:09,560 --> 01:10:12,479 Speaker 2: It's cap and quick, and the whole state needs to 919 01:10:12,520 --> 01:10:14,320 Speaker 2: pay attention because a lot is on the line. 920 01:10:15,800 --> 01:10:17,800 Speaker 1: A lot is on the line. I think that's the 921 01:10:17,840 --> 01:10:21,000 Speaker 1: biggest takeaway here. A lot of is on the line 922 01:10:21,000 --> 01:10:24,320 Speaker 1: for so many reasons. A lot is on the line 923 01:10:24,760 --> 01:10:28,640 Speaker 1: in the twenty twenty six midterms. That's why it is 924 01:10:29,240 --> 01:10:34,880 Speaker 1: so critical to stand up, because what is ultimately on 925 01:10:34,920 --> 01:10:39,439 Speaker 1: the line is this state and this Republic. Daniel Sir, 926 01:10:39,520 --> 01:10:43,479 Speaker 1: President of the Center for American Rights, former policy director 927 01:10:43,520 --> 01:10:47,120 Speaker 1: for Wisconsin Governor Scott Walker, joining us on this edition 928 01:10:47,280 --> 01:10:49,920 Speaker 1: of the Dan O'Donnells Show with yours truly, Matt Kittle, 929 01:10:50,240 --> 01:10:53,080 Speaker 1: stay with us straight ahead emissions testing in the twelve 930 01:10:53,200 --> 01:10:55,880 Speaker 1: Days of lib Christmas. As we wrap up the four 931 01:10:55,920 --> 01:11:01,960 Speaker 1: o'clock hour, hang on, I'll show your old radio amigo, 932 01:11:02,000 --> 01:11:05,720 Speaker 1: Matt Kittle filling in. We'll have some fill ins for 933 01:11:05,760 --> 01:11:08,479 Speaker 1: the next couple of days as I understand this schedule 934 01:11:08,560 --> 01:11:12,960 Speaker 1: working out and Danille back with you, same bat time, 935 01:11:13,080 --> 01:11:17,280 Speaker 1: same bat channel on Monday. Got a few things to 936 01:11:17,360 --> 01:11:21,400 Speaker 1: accomplish before we get to the five o'clock hour, including 937 01:11:21,479 --> 01:11:29,080 Speaker 1: this Today, WISN ABC twelve reporting Wisconsin lawmakers are calling 938 01:11:29,200 --> 01:11:33,320 Speaker 1: for the removal of vehicle emissions testing, arguing that the 939 01:11:33,560 --> 01:11:39,120 Speaker 1: Clean Air Acts rules are outdated and impose economic burdens 940 01:11:39,120 --> 01:11:43,840 Speaker 1: on citizens. They are correct on both and all fronts, 941 01:11:43,840 --> 01:11:46,560 Speaker 1: and it's something we've been talking about in southeast Wisconsin 942 01:11:46,600 --> 01:11:49,600 Speaker 1: for a very long time. The state in general. In 943 01:11:49,640 --> 01:11:55,040 Speaker 1: a letter to Wisconsin's federal congressional delegation, eighteen state representatives 944 01:11:55,040 --> 01:11:59,280 Speaker 1: and senators pushed Congress to repeal the requirement, which went 945 01:11:59,320 --> 01:12:05,200 Speaker 1: into effect forty years ago. So yes, indeed, these are 946 01:12:05,240 --> 01:12:10,320 Speaker 1: outdated standards. Emissions testing is required for cars in seven 947 01:12:10,400 --> 01:12:18,240 Speaker 1: southeastern Wisconsin counties Kenosha, Milwaukee, Ozaki, Racine, Cheboygan, Washington, and Milwaukee. Shaw. 948 01:12:19,080 --> 01:12:24,200 Speaker 1: Drivers in those areas are required to complete an onboard 949 01:12:24,479 --> 01:12:28,280 Speaker 1: diagnostic test every two years. I'm telling you things you 950 01:12:28,400 --> 01:12:31,960 Speaker 1: already know. It's a pain in the tukis, and yet 951 01:12:33,640 --> 01:12:37,240 Speaker 1: that's pain in the tukis pretty much sums up the 952 01:12:37,280 --> 01:12:41,960 Speaker 1: federal government and their broad regulations. Typically it happens when 953 01:12:42,040 --> 01:12:46,760 Speaker 1: renewing registration to ensure vehicles meet environmental standards. State Representative 954 01:12:46,800 --> 01:12:51,160 Speaker 1: Bob Donovan, who represents Assembly District sixty one here in 955 01:12:51,240 --> 01:12:55,360 Speaker 1: the Milwaukee area, believes the program is no longer useful 956 01:12:55,439 --> 01:12:59,360 Speaker 1: due to the economic burdens it places on drivers. You 957 01:12:59,439 --> 01:13:03,839 Speaker 1: also feel technological advancements have reduced the need for testing. 958 01:13:04,720 --> 01:13:08,000 Speaker 1: I reached out to Bob the phone number that I had. 959 01:13:08,040 --> 01:13:09,840 Speaker 1: I hadn't heard back from him. I'd love to get 960 01:13:09,920 --> 01:13:12,760 Speaker 1: him on the show to talk a little bit more 961 01:13:12,800 --> 01:13:17,040 Speaker 1: about this. Bob knows what everybody in southeast Wisconsin knows 962 01:13:17,800 --> 01:13:20,880 Speaker 1: this system and what it means in terms of economic 963 01:13:21,000 --> 01:13:25,679 Speaker 1: impact as well. In the piece from WISN, he says, 964 01:13:25,720 --> 01:13:28,880 Speaker 1: I think we all certainly have an obligation to work 965 01:13:28,920 --> 01:13:32,600 Speaker 1: towards clean air, clean water. We all want that. But 966 01:13:32,720 --> 01:13:37,320 Speaker 1: if a program can't even prove after forty years that 967 01:13:37,400 --> 01:13:40,840 Speaker 1: it's made a difference, that concerns me. And we all 968 01:13:40,920 --> 01:13:44,160 Speaker 1: breathe the same air. Yet if you live across the 969 01:13:44,160 --> 01:13:48,280 Speaker 1: street from a county in this program, well you don't 970 01:13:48,360 --> 01:13:53,480 Speaker 1: have to partake in it. So to me, it's negligible 971 01:13:53,720 --> 01:13:56,160 Speaker 1: what we gain from this. That's why I think it's 972 01:13:56,200 --> 01:14:00,840 Speaker 1: important the federal government reevaluated. Again. These are the same 973 01:14:00,960 --> 01:14:03,840 Speaker 1: common sense arguments that have been made for years. And 974 01:14:04,000 --> 01:14:07,160 Speaker 1: guess who's shoving all of this stuff on us? Yeah, 975 01:14:07,240 --> 01:14:10,840 Speaker 1: the federal government to be sure, But our good neighbors 976 01:14:10,920 --> 01:14:14,519 Speaker 1: to the south of us in Illinois that have cost 977 01:14:14,560 --> 01:14:20,800 Speaker 1: us so much already cost their own citizens obviously debt 978 01:14:21,320 --> 01:14:26,639 Speaker 1: ridden expenses. But yeah, all of that stuff is coming 979 01:14:27,600 --> 01:14:32,400 Speaker 1: their way. It also comes in from Canada, it gets 980 01:14:32,439 --> 01:14:35,559 Speaker 1: into here, and we have these old aniquated measurements in 981 01:14:35,600 --> 01:14:41,160 Speaker 1: these old antiquated rules, and it is extremely costly for 982 01:14:41,240 --> 01:14:48,080 Speaker 1: Wisconsin's economy, Southeast Wisconsin's economy in particular, and businesses and 983 01:14:48,600 --> 01:14:54,160 Speaker 1: employees of those businesses. Something to watch for. I know 984 01:14:54,280 --> 01:15:01,360 Speaker 1: that President Trump earlier today this was interesting. Do you 985 01:15:01,439 --> 01:15:05,040 Speaker 1: have this here? Yeah, there it is. President Donald Trump 986 01:15:05,080 --> 01:15:08,920 Speaker 1: announced on Wednesday afternoon a reset of federal fuel standards 987 01:15:08,920 --> 01:15:12,519 Speaker 1: that heightened under the Biden administration. The White House said 988 01:15:12,960 --> 01:15:16,960 Speaker 1: that'll save one hundred and nine billion dollars in total 989 01:15:16,960 --> 01:15:22,680 Speaker 1: for American families. So obviously this is a receptive administration 990 01:15:23,960 --> 01:15:27,120 Speaker 1: for these kinds of arguments that the state lawmakers are making. 991 01:15:27,680 --> 01:15:30,160 Speaker 1: Now quickly before we get to the four o'clock or 992 01:15:30,200 --> 01:15:36,960 Speaker 1: how about the twelve days of Lib Christmas Liberal Christmas, 993 01:15:36,960 --> 01:15:39,599 Speaker 1: that is, these will be. 994 01:15:39,640 --> 01:15:40,200 Speaker 2: Known to. 995 01:15:42,320 --> 01:15:46,760 Speaker 1: Wisconsinights who have long suffered under Tony Evers and the 996 01:15:47,080 --> 01:15:52,400 Speaker 1: leftist policies in the state of Wisconsin, at least leftist 997 01:15:53,280 --> 01:16:01,320 Speaker 1: directives from Governor Tony Evers. Perhaps it's best not to 998 01:16:01,360 --> 01:16:03,920 Speaker 1: sing them. Ah, but what the heck? It is the 999 01:16:03,960 --> 01:16:07,479 Speaker 1: season twelve days of Lib Christmas On the first day 1000 01:16:07,520 --> 01:16:13,559 Speaker 1: of Christmas, the Liberals gave to me tony eavers learning tree. 1001 01:16:15,000 --> 01:16:18,240 Speaker 1: On the second day of chris miss the liberals gave 1002 01:16:18,360 --> 01:16:24,519 Speaker 1: to me two pride parades and tony eavers learning tree. 1003 01:16:25,720 --> 01:16:30,640 Speaker 1: All right, we'll finish up the others non singing. On 1004 01:16:30,720 --> 01:16:32,519 Speaker 1: the third day of Christmas, the Liberals gave to me 1005 01:16:32,760 --> 01:16:40,360 Speaker 1: three French ticklers French hens hens the tickle. Yeah, sorry 1006 01:16:40,360 --> 01:16:43,160 Speaker 1: about that. On the fourth day of Christmas, the Liberals 1007 01:16:43,160 --> 01:16:47,760 Speaker 1: gave to me four grooming teachers. I have to sing 1008 01:16:47,840 --> 01:16:50,519 Speaker 1: this one now. On the fifth day of Christmas, the 1009 01:16:50,560 --> 01:16:58,360 Speaker 1: Liberals gave to me man Dela bonds. Thank you left. 1010 01:16:59,439 --> 01:17:01,400 Speaker 1: On the seventh day of Christmas, the liberals gave to 1011 01:17:01,439 --> 01:17:06,840 Speaker 1: me seven inseminated persons. The eighth day of Christmas, the 1012 01:17:06,880 --> 01:17:11,680 Speaker 1: liberals gave to me eight drag queens reading. And the 1013 01:17:11,760 --> 01:17:16,200 Speaker 1: ninth day of Christmas, the liberals gave to me nine 1014 01:17:16,640 --> 01:17:24,800 Speaker 1: border crossers. Yes, if the Left takes over the legislature again, 1015 01:17:25,520 --> 01:17:29,479 Speaker 1: it's benefits for all. On the tenth day of Christmas, 1016 01:17:29,479 --> 01:17:34,920 Speaker 1: the liberals gave to me ten late term abortions. The 1017 01:17:35,000 --> 01:17:38,160 Speaker 1: eleventh day of Christmas, the Liberals gave to me eleven 1018 01:17:38,320 --> 01:17:42,800 Speaker 1: tax increases. We know that's something you can always count 1019 01:17:42,840 --> 01:17:45,920 Speaker 1: on in Wisconsin. And on the twelfth day of Christmas, 1020 01:17:45,960 --> 01:17:51,200 Speaker 1: the Liberals gave to me twelve transgender showers. Oh, that'll 1021 01:17:51,280 --> 01:18:01,479 Speaker 1: get you into the mood. Happy holidays, indeed, mandellas for 1022 01:18:01,840 --> 01:18:07,480 Speaker 1: grooming teachers, three French tacklers, two pride parades, and Tawny 1023 01:18:08,080 --> 01:18:17,720 Speaker 1: Evers learning tree. That is your Liberal twelve days of 1024 01:18:17,800 --> 01:18:22,280 Speaker 1: Christmas on this third day of December. Thanks for being 1025 01:18:22,360 --> 01:18:24,000 Speaker 1: with us. We got so much more to come. In 1026 01:18:24,040 --> 01:18:27,120 Speaker 1: the five o'clock hour you're tapped in. You're tuned into 1027 01:18:27,120 --> 01:18:30,160 Speaker 1: the Dan o'donnald Show with your old radio ammego, Matt Kittle, 1028 01:18:30,200 --> 01:18:36,560 Speaker 1: stay with us, here we go. How do you do Bukaroo? 1029 01:18:37,560 --> 01:18:40,600 Speaker 1: It's the third and final hour of the Dan O'Donnell 1030 01:18:40,760 --> 01:18:45,840 Speaker 1: Show for this Wednesday Wednesday evening. Now, welcome to your 1031 01:18:45,920 --> 01:18:50,479 Speaker 1: drive home. Just keep in mind there remain some folks 1032 01:18:50,560 --> 01:18:53,600 Speaker 1: out there who still need time to learn how to 1033 01:18:53,760 --> 01:18:58,360 Speaker 1: drive in winter weather, and they are the ones who 1034 01:18:58,400 --> 01:19:04,599 Speaker 1: are probably impact in your drive home right now. It's 1035 01:19:04,600 --> 01:19:07,680 Speaker 1: a learning curve, is what it is. How are you, 1036 01:19:07,880 --> 01:19:10,799 Speaker 1: Matt Kittle, your radio talk show host Phil and Daddy 1037 01:19:11,600 --> 01:19:14,240 Speaker 1: filling in for Dan O'Donnell. He's out for the next 1038 01:19:14,280 --> 01:19:17,360 Speaker 1: few days. He'll be back with you, same Bat times, 1039 01:19:17,439 --> 01:19:22,160 Speaker 1: same bat channel Wednesday. We've got some things to accomplish 1040 01:19:22,360 --> 01:19:24,880 Speaker 1: this hour, and I'm going to let you know all 1041 01:19:24,920 --> 01:19:30,400 Speaker 1: about those here and now. Just a tad later in 1042 01:19:30,840 --> 01:19:35,519 Speaker 1: the hour. Delusions of grandeur from the accomplice media, which 1043 01:19:35,560 --> 01:19:41,160 Speaker 1: of course has lived their lives on a foundation of 1044 01:19:41,280 --> 01:19:46,479 Speaker 1: delusions of grandeur, particularly in the modern media age. We'll 1045 01:19:46,560 --> 01:19:49,679 Speaker 1: talk more about that in just a bit. And the 1046 01:19:49,800 --> 01:19:56,160 Speaker 1: least Surprising story of the day. A lot of stories 1047 01:19:56,200 --> 01:20:02,599 Speaker 1: that stun us, catch us off guard, shock us, even 1048 01:20:03,520 --> 01:20:08,880 Speaker 1: this one, the least surprising story of the day. We'll 1049 01:20:08,920 --> 01:20:11,800 Speaker 1: do that before we get on out of here. This 1050 01:20:11,920 --> 01:20:17,559 Speaker 1: piece just came in this afternoon, the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel. 1051 01:20:17,640 --> 01:20:21,360 Speaker 1: Reporting this hour we were talking about the leftist led 1052 01:20:21,400 --> 01:20:26,799 Speaker 1: Wisconsin Supreme Court. Once again, thanks to all who decided 1053 01:20:26,840 --> 01:20:31,080 Speaker 1: not to vote in the April first election. Right minded 1054 01:20:31,920 --> 01:20:39,200 Speaker 1: people who value well reality, really value common sense and 1055 01:20:39,920 --> 01:20:43,599 Speaker 1: limited government in our lives. We have the Supreme Court 1056 01:20:43,640 --> 01:20:47,680 Speaker 1: that we have because well, the left got to their 1057 01:20:47,760 --> 01:20:49,960 Speaker 1: voters out and the right didn't. So here we go. 1058 01:20:52,360 --> 01:20:55,799 Speaker 1: The payoff is here for the big money interest. Remember 1059 01:20:55,880 --> 01:21:01,640 Speaker 1: the April first Supreme Court Electionisconsin Supreme Court election was 1060 01:21:01,760 --> 01:21:08,800 Speaker 1: the most expensive judicial race in US history. It was 1061 01:21:08,920 --> 01:21:11,479 Speaker 1: well over one hundred million dollars. I'm trying to think 1062 01:21:11,520 --> 01:21:14,759 Speaker 1: what it finally landed on. Maybe one hundred and twenty million. 1063 01:21:15,040 --> 01:21:19,479 Speaker 1: I it was an ungodly amount of money pumped in. 1064 01:21:19,840 --> 01:21:27,040 Speaker 1: And the twenty twenty five Wisconsin Supreme Court election overtook 1065 01:21:27,439 --> 01:21:32,519 Speaker 1: the previous most expensive supreme or judicial race judicial election 1066 01:21:32,640 --> 01:21:36,719 Speaker 1: in US history, that was the twenty twenty three three 1067 01:21:37,160 --> 01:21:43,320 Speaker 1: Wisconsin Supreme Court election. So there's a pattern here. And 1068 01:21:43,520 --> 01:21:48,320 Speaker 1: let's just say the George Soroses and the JB. Pritzkers, 1069 01:21:49,080 --> 01:21:55,719 Speaker 1: the Wisconsin Democratic Party, Reid Hoffmann's they are duly getting 1070 01:21:55,800 --> 01:21:59,120 Speaker 1: what they paid for. Again the story of this hour 1071 01:21:59,280 --> 01:22:03,240 Speaker 1: in the Hawaukee Journal Sentinel. Wisconsin's highest court has agreed 1072 01:22:03,280 --> 01:22:08,320 Speaker 1: to take up a lawsuit seeking to block county jails 1073 01:22:08,360 --> 01:22:16,679 Speaker 1: from holding immigrant detainees at federal authority's request. You could 1074 01:22:16,880 --> 01:22:19,920 Speaker 1: see this one coming a mile away. I remember talking 1075 01:22:20,920 --> 01:22:24,280 Speaker 1: to a great legal mind in the state of Wisconsin. 1076 01:22:26,200 --> 01:22:30,400 Speaker 1: It was either earlier early this year or late last year, 1077 01:22:31,800 --> 01:22:38,920 Speaker 1: but we were talking about the very limited schedule, the 1078 01:22:39,040 --> 01:22:42,960 Speaker 1: very limited docket that the left led Wisconsin Supreme Court 1079 01:22:43,040 --> 01:22:46,800 Speaker 1: had last year, and it was remarkable just how few 1080 01:22:46,920 --> 01:22:52,160 Speaker 1: cases that court, relatively speaking, decided to take up. That's 1081 01:22:52,200 --> 01:22:55,760 Speaker 1: all gone now there will be. You just have a 1082 01:22:55,800 --> 01:22:59,240 Speaker 1: feeling they're settled in, they're all ready to go. They 1083 01:22:59,280 --> 01:23:05,880 Speaker 1: didn't want to. They didn't want to didn't want to 1084 01:23:06,560 --> 01:23:11,160 Speaker 1: mess up the perception royal the waters, if you will, 1085 01:23:12,320 --> 01:23:18,960 Speaker 1: that they were a leftist court and that leftist justices 1086 01:23:19,000 --> 01:23:22,240 Speaker 1: wouldn't do what leftist judges is normally do, and that is, 1087 01:23:22,320 --> 01:23:29,120 Speaker 1: of course legislate from the bench. So between two and 1088 01:23:29,640 --> 01:23:33,960 Speaker 1: twenty three August and then of course the election Supreme 1089 01:23:34,000 --> 01:23:39,320 Speaker 1: Court election of twenty twenty five, they lay relatively low. Now, 1090 01:23:39,360 --> 01:23:46,160 Speaker 1: of course they did certain things that observers of the 1091 01:23:46,240 --> 01:23:51,880 Speaker 1: law of Wisconsin, Wisconsin's constitution, the US Constitution, they look 1092 01:23:51,920 --> 01:23:55,400 Speaker 1: at and they say, my god, that doesn't make any 1093 01:23:55,439 --> 01:23:59,000 Speaker 1: sense as it doesn't comport with the law. It's more 1094 01:23:59,040 --> 01:24:03,960 Speaker 1: political than it is legal. But anyway, you didn't get 1095 01:24:04,000 --> 01:24:07,240 Speaker 1: a lot of that because they were worried about perceptions. 1096 01:24:07,280 --> 01:24:10,840 Speaker 1: They were worried that the Conservatives would be able to 1097 01:24:10,960 --> 01:24:16,439 Speaker 1: use their record against them to tell voters, hey, if 1098 01:24:16,479 --> 01:24:20,479 Speaker 1: you elect another one of these liberals. They're going to 1099 01:24:20,560 --> 01:24:23,439 Speaker 1: do even more of this stuff. And in April of 1100 01:24:23,479 --> 01:24:27,120 Speaker 1: twenty twenty five, it was all about holding the liberal 1101 01:24:27,160 --> 01:24:29,479 Speaker 1: majority on the Court. They've got that, they've got that 1102 01:24:29,560 --> 01:24:33,800 Speaker 1: for some time. They don't have to worry about perceptions. 1103 01:24:34,400 --> 01:24:38,920 Speaker 1: Now it is let's light this baby on fire. Give 1104 01:24:38,960 --> 01:24:42,000 Speaker 1: me the matches in the gasoline. I am ready, as 1105 01:24:42,040 --> 01:24:46,439 Speaker 1: a leftist Supreme Court justice, to burn this thing down. 1106 01:24:48,320 --> 01:24:52,120 Speaker 1: And so it is no surprise that they would take 1107 01:24:52,520 --> 01:24:57,719 Speaker 1: this case involving the lawsuit that seeks to block county 1108 01:24:57,840 --> 01:25:04,760 Speaker 1: jails from holding immigrant detainees federal authorities request. It would 1109 01:25:04,760 --> 01:25:07,320 Speaker 1: be no surprise if this court comes back with a 1110 01:25:07,360 --> 01:25:10,120 Speaker 1: four to three ruling saying no, no, no, no, no, 1111 01:25:10,200 --> 01:25:13,320 Speaker 1: there's no right to that at all. The American Civil 1112 01:25:13,360 --> 01:25:17,000 Speaker 1: Liberties Union of Wisconsin filed the lawsuit on behalf of 1113 01:25:17,160 --> 01:25:24,479 Speaker 1: immigrant advocacy group Voices de la Frontera. And if you've 1114 01:25:25,880 --> 01:25:28,360 Speaker 1: if you've been around for a while in the Milwaukee area, 1115 01:25:28,439 --> 01:25:32,519 Speaker 1: in Wisconsin in general, you know the far left work 1116 01:25:32,640 --> 01:25:37,000 Speaker 1: that the Voices dela Fronterra is doing on behalf of 1117 01:25:37,080 --> 01:25:42,720 Speaker 1: all kinds of illegal immigrants, including folonious illegal immigrants. There 1118 01:25:42,720 --> 01:25:46,160 Speaker 1: are five Wisconsin sheriffs who also partnered with the US 1119 01:25:46,280 --> 01:25:51,120 Speaker 1: Immigration Customs Enforcement Agency to house the immigrants, an action 1120 01:25:51,320 --> 01:25:55,840 Speaker 1: known as a detainer. The decision to accept the case 1121 01:25:56,000 --> 01:26:00,280 Speaker 1: was made by four liberal leaning justices who control the court. 1122 01:26:01,240 --> 01:26:05,080 Speaker 1: According to Supreme Court Justice Brian Hagadorn, who is part 1123 01:26:05,120 --> 01:26:10,440 Speaker 1: of the court's conservative minority, we do know that Hagadorn 1124 01:26:11,120 --> 01:26:14,720 Speaker 1: also is willing to get into the liberal carpool on 1125 01:26:14,880 --> 01:26:19,800 Speaker 1: certain issues. The lawsuit comes as President Donald Trump and 1126 01:26:19,840 --> 01:26:23,920 Speaker 1: his administration step up efforts to deport people who live 1127 01:26:24,080 --> 01:26:29,760 Speaker 1: in the US illegally. Yes. In other words, President Trump 1128 01:26:29,840 --> 01:26:33,880 Speaker 1: and his administration are doing what the American people told 1129 01:26:34,040 --> 01:26:39,040 Speaker 1: them to do, and yet the left and their pals 1130 01:26:39,040 --> 01:26:44,920 Speaker 1: and the accomplished media are just eternally surprised that someone 1131 01:26:44,960 --> 01:26:51,560 Speaker 1: would actually do what they promised to do. The sheriffs 1132 01:26:51,640 --> 01:26:58,160 Speaker 1: being challenged by the American Civil Liberties Union. And remember 1133 01:26:58,160 --> 01:27:02,880 Speaker 1: what the ACLU is, It's civil liberties. It's all. It's 1134 01:27:02,920 --> 01:27:10,040 Speaker 1: always been about protecting civil liberties of leftists, the civil 1135 01:27:10,080 --> 01:27:15,479 Speaker 1: liberties of people who lean to the right. Not so 1136 01:27:15,600 --> 01:27:21,280 Speaker 1: much over the last ten to twenty years, not at all. Really. 1137 01:27:23,160 --> 01:27:28,000 Speaker 1: The challenge by the ACLU the sheriffs, i should say 1138 01:27:28,000 --> 01:27:31,479 Speaker 1: being challenged by the ACLU are Dave Gerber of Walworth County, 1139 01:27:32,479 --> 01:27:39,080 Speaker 1: Todd Delanne of Brown County, the Marathon County sheriff. Let's 1140 01:27:39,080 --> 01:27:42,280 Speaker 1: see who else in the Kenosha County sheriff and Sauk 1141 01:27:42,360 --> 01:27:46,000 Speaker 1: County sheriff. When a sheriff honors a detainer from ICE, 1142 01:27:46,160 --> 01:27:48,879 Speaker 1: they agree to hold a person for forty eight hours 1143 01:27:49,840 --> 01:27:54,439 Speaker 1: after they should have been released under state law to 1144 01:27:54,479 --> 01:27:57,360 Speaker 1: give ICE time to pick up and take custody of 1145 01:27:57,400 --> 01:28:01,320 Speaker 1: the person. This has been the battle and the hill, 1146 01:28:02,080 --> 01:28:05,200 Speaker 1: at least one of the illegal immigration hills that the 1147 01:28:05,280 --> 01:28:09,360 Speaker 1: left has been dying on for some time. The likes 1148 01:28:09,400 --> 01:28:19,280 Speaker 1: of Dane County and their Marxist sheriff, what has happened 1149 01:28:19,680 --> 01:28:23,840 Speaker 1: in liberal leaning counties across the state. They don't want 1150 01:28:23,880 --> 01:28:26,800 Speaker 1: to have anything to do, and they make it very 1151 01:28:26,840 --> 01:28:33,160 Speaker 1: clear we're not going to help ICE agents enforce the law. 1152 01:28:34,320 --> 01:28:37,320 Speaker 1: That really is what the argument is, because that's what 1153 01:28:37,439 --> 01:28:41,240 Speaker 1: ICE agents are doing, whether the Left likes it or not. 1154 01:28:42,920 --> 01:28:47,840 Speaker 1: There are immigration laws in place, and those laws also 1155 01:28:47,920 --> 01:28:54,600 Speaker 1: come with enforcement measures, and those laws demand that Immigration 1156 01:28:55,800 --> 01:29:02,559 Speaker 1: Customs enforcement officials enforce those laws, which means deporting people 1157 01:29:02,560 --> 01:29:07,479 Speaker 1: who have committed a crime of coming here illegally. Now, 1158 01:29:07,520 --> 01:29:12,200 Speaker 1: we've read a lot about illegal immigrants who not only 1159 01:29:12,200 --> 01:29:15,520 Speaker 1: committed the crime of coming here and being here illegally 1160 01:29:16,120 --> 01:29:20,320 Speaker 1: undocumented as the left likes to call it, But there 1161 01:29:20,360 --> 01:29:23,719 Speaker 1: are a lot of illegal immigrants that have been taken 1162 01:29:23,760 --> 01:29:29,559 Speaker 1: into custody over the last several months around the country 1163 01:29:29,600 --> 01:29:33,519 Speaker 1: who have very violent criminal records. That is to say, 1164 01:29:33,960 --> 01:29:37,120 Speaker 1: they broke the law illegally coming into the country, and 1165 01:29:37,160 --> 01:29:43,080 Speaker 1: then they broke more laws during their stay. So it 1166 01:29:43,120 --> 01:29:50,600 Speaker 1: shouldn't come as a surprise that sheriff's departments would decide 1167 01:29:51,160 --> 01:29:56,360 Speaker 1: to be on the side of law and order. Seriff's 1168 01:29:56,360 --> 01:29:59,760 Speaker 1: departments assist law enforcement officials in other counties and other 1169 01:30:00,080 --> 01:30:06,160 Speaker 1: jurisdictions all the time that they are assisting federal agents 1170 01:30:06,240 --> 01:30:11,960 Speaker 1: who are themselves enforcing the law and are required to 1171 01:30:12,200 --> 01:30:18,400 Speaker 1: enforce the law. Well, that's just another partnership. But the 1172 01:30:18,479 --> 01:30:22,160 Speaker 1: Left wants nothing to do with it. And the liberals, 1173 01:30:22,240 --> 01:30:25,160 Speaker 1: who control this court by a four or three majority, 1174 01:30:25,200 --> 01:30:30,240 Speaker 1: have now decided to take this case. And again, where 1175 01:30:30,280 --> 01:30:38,320 Speaker 1: do you think this majority may end up ruling? The 1176 01:30:38,360 --> 01:30:40,600 Speaker 1: story goes on to say, keeping a person in custody 1177 01:30:41,080 --> 01:30:45,839 Speaker 1: for extra time constitutes a new arrest. The ACLU argues, 1178 01:30:46,479 --> 01:30:50,040 Speaker 1: it says that a league that that's illegal because Wisconsin 1179 01:30:50,120 --> 01:30:53,120 Speaker 1: law doesn't allow officers to make civil arrest except for 1180 01:30:53,160 --> 01:30:59,480 Speaker 1: certain circumstances, none of which are relevant to civil immigration enforcement, 1181 01:31:00,200 --> 01:31:06,760 Speaker 1: the group argues. They argue a number of things. The 1182 01:31:06,840 --> 01:31:10,120 Speaker 1: sheriffs pushed back against the court taking up the lawsuit, 1183 01:31:10,400 --> 01:31:15,080 Speaker 1: arguing the matter does not warrant skipping a typical litigation 1184 01:31:15,280 --> 01:31:18,400 Speaker 1: process to begin with. The sheriffs argued the petition makes 1185 01:31:18,439 --> 01:31:24,360 Speaker 1: no attempt to even address the constitutional, statutory, and common 1186 01:31:24,439 --> 01:31:28,200 Speaker 1: law duties and powers of Wisconsin sheriffs. Despite challenging the 1187 01:31:28,240 --> 01:31:33,000 Speaker 1: authority of Wisconsin sheriffs to engage in a practice that 1188 01:31:33,080 --> 01:31:41,120 Speaker 1: has occurred for decades, This isn't something new. Local law 1189 01:31:41,160 --> 01:31:46,280 Speaker 1: enforcement officials across the country have aided, have assisted, have 1190 01:31:46,640 --> 01:31:51,719 Speaker 1: again partnered with federal agencies of all kinds, not just ICE, 1191 01:31:51,880 --> 01:31:57,440 Speaker 1: the FBI, the Department of Homeland Security, the other agencies 1192 01:31:57,560 --> 01:32:07,400 Speaker 1: therein federal prosecutors in the pursuit of enforcing laws, in 1193 01:32:07,439 --> 01:32:10,840 Speaker 1: the pursuit of law and order. But see, that's what's 1194 01:32:10,880 --> 01:32:16,080 Speaker 1: really at stake here for the leftist ACLU, for the 1195 01:32:16,160 --> 01:32:22,720 Speaker 1: leftist led Supreme Court for the left that wants to 1196 01:32:22,840 --> 01:32:27,240 Speaker 1: change the law, not through because they can't right now 1197 01:32:27,280 --> 01:32:30,400 Speaker 1: through the legislature. They're going to change the law through 1198 01:32:30,439 --> 01:32:32,759 Speaker 1: the courts. And the court of last resort, of course, 1199 01:32:33,800 --> 01:32:41,040 Speaker 1: is this very comfortable liberal led Supreme Court that does 1200 01:32:41,200 --> 01:32:45,960 Speaker 1: not have to worry about elections really for some time. 1201 01:32:48,080 --> 01:32:53,080 Speaker 1: They can do what they want. They can do what 1202 01:32:53,200 --> 01:32:59,360 Speaker 1: they have been paid to do by big left wing 1203 01:32:59,400 --> 01:33:05,200 Speaker 1: machine sugar daddies who got them elected. You see, the 1204 01:33:06,600 --> 01:33:11,040 Speaker 1: bill is due and this is part of the payment. 1205 01:33:11,560 --> 01:33:15,519 Speaker 1: Just watch what happens. They've already decided to take up 1206 01:33:15,640 --> 01:33:18,760 Speaker 1: this lawsuit. You can only imagine where it's going to 1207 01:33:18,800 --> 01:33:22,759 Speaker 1: go next. Any effort from the left to shut down 1208 01:33:22,920 --> 01:33:26,160 Speaker 1: enforcement of our immigration laws. That's just where all of 1209 01:33:26,200 --> 01:33:30,720 Speaker 1: this is going. Where we are going next is a 1210 01:33:30,720 --> 01:33:36,280 Speaker 1: little conversation about an idiot and if there is a 1211 01:33:36,320 --> 01:33:42,080 Speaker 1: guy who fits the definition of idiot more than Tim Waltz. 1212 01:33:43,160 --> 01:33:47,759 Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't know if that's possible. We'll 1213 01:33:47,880 --> 01:33:50,799 Speaker 1: get into the audio. We'll get into the conversation straight 1214 01:33:50,840 --> 01:33:53,640 Speaker 1: ahead on this edition of the Dan O'donnalds Show with 1215 01:33:53,720 --> 01:34:00,960 Speaker 1: Matt Kittlestay with us, please ah yeah, one of my 1216 01:34:00,960 --> 01:34:02,920 Speaker 1: favorites when I was a kid. Here comes Santa Claus 1217 01:34:03,000 --> 01:34:07,719 Speaker 1: right down Santa Claus Lane. Eric, our excellent producer, has 1218 01:34:09,560 --> 01:34:14,080 Speaker 1: asked me, was it asking or begging? I can't. There 1219 01:34:14,160 --> 01:34:16,599 Speaker 1: was a kind of a connotation to how you said 1220 01:34:16,640 --> 01:34:18,200 Speaker 1: that when he said, are you going to do any 1221 01:34:18,200 --> 01:34:25,280 Speaker 1: more singing today? Well, listen, let me tell you something here, 1222 01:34:25,800 --> 01:34:29,880 Speaker 1: young man. Have you been a good boy this year? 1223 01:34:31,720 --> 01:34:34,160 Speaker 1: And if you have, I will reward you with some 1224 01:34:34,200 --> 01:34:40,120 Speaker 1: more singing. Good, good, good good. No, it all depends 1225 01:34:40,160 --> 01:34:42,519 Speaker 1: if the medicine is kicked in. Really, you know, I 1226 01:34:42,560 --> 01:34:45,639 Speaker 1: say this a lot, and it's hard to believe because 1227 01:34:45,680 --> 01:34:49,679 Speaker 1: we have been living, you know, for the last seven 1228 01:34:49,800 --> 01:34:54,479 Speaker 1: years now in the Evers administration. Again, the guy who 1229 01:34:54,520 --> 01:34:57,800 Speaker 1: has brought us such hits as the most recent the 1230 01:34:58,000 --> 01:35:02,679 Speaker 1: Learning Tree at the Capitol. Then we have the Science 1231 01:35:02,760 --> 01:35:07,240 Speaker 1: Tree at one time too. You know, in Wisconsin, wisconsinights 1232 01:35:07,280 --> 01:35:11,960 Speaker 1: have dealt with a lot, most of it just crap 1233 01:35:12,479 --> 01:35:15,120 Speaker 1: from Governor Tony Evers. But I tell you it could 1234 01:35:15,160 --> 01:35:17,960 Speaker 1: be worse. Yeah, I know, it's hard to believe, but 1235 01:35:18,000 --> 01:35:23,120 Speaker 1: it could be worse. Enter Governor Tim Walls, our neighbor 1236 01:35:23,160 --> 01:35:30,280 Speaker 1: to the west, Minnesota, Timmy has a uh well, tampon, Timmany, Timmany, Timmy, 1237 01:35:31,160 --> 01:35:35,439 Speaker 1: Timmany Christmas tampon. Timmy has all kinds of problems. Now 1238 01:35:35,439 --> 01:35:40,400 Speaker 1: he has a Somali problem. He's a Somali fraud problem. 1239 01:35:41,360 --> 01:35:46,560 Speaker 1: We're talking about a billion plus dollars in federal taxpayer 1240 01:35:46,600 --> 01:35:51,160 Speaker 1: money going to fraudsters in the Somali community, the ever 1241 01:35:51,280 --> 01:36:01,840 Speaker 1: growing Somali community Minneapolis. And uh tim has screwed this 1242 01:36:01,920 --> 01:36:07,160 Speaker 1: thing up so much that even the Washington Post has 1243 01:36:08,040 --> 01:36:11,679 Speaker 1: chimed in to say, listen, Tim, we are not buying 1244 01:36:11,720 --> 01:36:15,000 Speaker 1: what you're selling. That's how bad it is when a 1245 01:36:15,120 --> 01:36:20,519 Speaker 1: leftist like Tim Walt's Walls. Excuse me, when a leftist 1246 01:36:20,560 --> 01:36:24,040 Speaker 1: like Tim Walls loses the Washington Post or the New 1247 01:36:24,120 --> 01:36:30,040 Speaker 1: York Times, you know there's something afoot here. Maybe you've 1248 01:36:30,040 --> 01:36:36,000 Speaker 1: heard the response from Minnesota's governor over the weekend, he 1249 01:36:36,040 --> 01:36:40,520 Speaker 1: appeared on Meet the Press. This is how he defends 1250 01:36:42,280 --> 01:36:49,400 Speaker 1: the just eye popping fraud that occurred on his watch. 1251 01:36:50,640 --> 01:36:51,720 Speaker 1: Let's take a listen to this. 1252 01:36:52,000 --> 01:36:56,120 Speaker 4: Dozens of people of East African descent have been charged, convicted, 1253 01:36:56,200 --> 01:36:58,760 Speaker 4: and sentenced for stealing more than a billion dollars in 1254 01:36:58,880 --> 01:37:03,880 Speaker 4: taxpayer money from government programs during COVID. As you know, Governor, 1255 01:37:04,040 --> 01:37:06,760 Speaker 4: that is more than Minnesota spends each year to run 1256 01:37:06,800 --> 01:37:08,600 Speaker 4: its Department of Correction. So I want to give you 1257 01:37:08,640 --> 01:37:12,840 Speaker 4: a chance to respond to this. Do you take responsibility 1258 01:37:12,880 --> 01:37:14,920 Speaker 4: for failing to stop this fraud in your state? 1259 01:37:17,000 --> 01:37:19,759 Speaker 5: Well, certainly I take responsibility for putting people in jail. 1260 01:37:20,000 --> 01:37:23,360 Speaker 5: Governors don't get to just talk theoretically. We have to 1261 01:37:23,400 --> 01:37:26,560 Speaker 5: solve problems. And I will note it's not just Somali's. 1262 01:37:26,720 --> 01:37:29,759 Speaker 5: Minnesota is a generous state. Minnesota is a prosperous days, 1263 01:37:29,800 --> 01:37:32,400 Speaker 5: a well run state or triple A bond rated. But 1264 01:37:32,479 --> 01:37:35,519 Speaker 5: that attracts criminals. Those people are going to jail. We're 1265 01:37:35,560 --> 01:37:38,519 Speaker 5: doing everything we can, but to demonize an entire community 1266 01:37:38,520 --> 01:37:41,639 Speaker 5: on the actions of a few, it's lazy. And as 1267 01:37:41,680 --> 01:37:45,040 Speaker 5: you heard Senator Kelly say, this president has cut a 1268 01:37:45,040 --> 01:37:47,800 Speaker 5: lot of inspector generals. He's cut programs that could help 1269 01:37:47,880 --> 01:37:49,040 Speaker 5: us tackle us on. 1270 01:37:49,200 --> 01:37:51,400 Speaker 1: So we are we'll take it on. We'll put folks 1271 01:37:51,439 --> 01:37:51,800 Speaker 1: in jail. 1272 01:37:51,840 --> 01:37:53,840 Speaker 5: I don't care what your nationality is, I don't care 1273 01:37:53,880 --> 01:37:56,759 Speaker 5: who your religion is, your color, if you're committing crimes, 1274 01:37:56,760 --> 01:38:00,360 Speaker 5: these are programs that were meant to serve students with autism, 1275 01:38:00,720 --> 01:38:04,639 Speaker 5: to housing and to making sure people had enough to eat. 1276 01:38:04,840 --> 01:38:08,719 Speaker 5: There's a reason Minnesota ranks as the top lowest childhood poverty, 1277 01:38:08,800 --> 01:38:11,599 Speaker 5: best place for children to live. People are taking advantage 1278 01:38:11,600 --> 01:38:14,559 Speaker 5: that they're going to prison. That is totally disconnected with 1279 01:38:14,720 --> 01:38:17,599 Speaker 5: demonizing an entire group of people who came here fleeing 1280 01:38:17,640 --> 01:38:21,360 Speaker 5: civil war and created a vibrant community that makes Minnesota 1281 01:38:21,400 --> 01:38:22,320 Speaker 5: in this country better. 1282 01:38:22,400 --> 01:38:26,559 Speaker 1: But that's Donald Trump. Yeah, that's right. So who's to 1283 01:38:26,600 --> 01:38:32,799 Speaker 1: blame Donald Trump. Who's to blame for screwing this thing up? Royally? 1284 01:38:33,080 --> 01:38:38,920 Speaker 1: Who's to blame for not keeping his eye on the ball? 1285 01:38:40,040 --> 01:38:45,400 Speaker 1: The former failed vice presidential candidate Tim Walls, the leftist 1286 01:38:45,600 --> 01:38:52,040 Speaker 1: empty vessel, Tim Walls running the state of Minnesota into 1287 01:38:52,439 --> 01:39:00,960 Speaker 1: the ground. But even the biggest leftist to apologist out 1288 01:39:00,960 --> 01:39:07,120 Speaker 1: there know that this is on Tim Walls. Like I said, 1289 01:39:07,400 --> 01:39:12,880 Speaker 1: when you have the Washington Post checking you, you've got 1290 01:39:12,920 --> 01:39:16,480 Speaker 1: some issues. As a Democrat, just from Fox News, Democratic 1291 01:39:16,680 --> 01:39:21,360 Speaker 1: Minnesota Governor Tim Walls isn't helping himself by refusing to 1292 01:39:21,400 --> 01:39:25,840 Speaker 1: take responsibility for the welfare fraud that occurred in plain 1293 01:39:26,200 --> 01:39:32,360 Speaker 1: sight during the COVID nineteen pandemic in his state. The 1294 01:39:32,479 --> 01:39:38,479 Speaker 1: Washington Post editorial board wrote Wednesday, no by now. The 1295 01:39:38,560 --> 01:39:41,719 Speaker 1: Justice Department announced new charges last week against the seventy 1296 01:39:41,760 --> 01:39:47,400 Speaker 1: eighth defendant seventy eight of these folks in the Feeding 1297 01:39:47,600 --> 01:39:53,040 Speaker 1: Our Future fraud scheme, which prosecutors say involved more than 1298 01:39:53,080 --> 01:39:57,880 Speaker 1: two hundred fifty million dollars in stolen funds from a 1299 01:39:57,920 --> 01:40:03,240 Speaker 1: federally funded child nutrition program and has already resulted in 1300 01:40:03,320 --> 01:40:09,200 Speaker 1: more than fifty convictions. Many of those charged come from 1301 01:40:09,240 --> 01:40:16,880 Speaker 1: Minnesota's Somali community, the same community, by the way, whose 1302 01:40:17,120 --> 01:40:23,040 Speaker 1: representative from Somalia has been on a I Hate America 1303 01:40:23,320 --> 01:40:29,160 Speaker 1: campaign long before, even long before she became a member 1304 01:40:29,200 --> 01:40:34,599 Speaker 1: of Congress. The governor is not helping himself by refusing 1305 01:40:34,600 --> 01:40:38,240 Speaker 1: to take responsibility for the welfare fraud that happened in 1306 01:40:38,360 --> 01:40:42,280 Speaker 1: plain sight during the pandemic. The editors of The Washington 1307 01:40:42,280 --> 01:40:49,200 Speaker 1: Post wrote, residents, mostly of Somali descent, targeted established medicaid programs. 1308 01:40:49,920 --> 01:40:55,479 Speaker 1: They opened fake food distribution centers and autism centers to 1309 01:40:55,560 --> 01:41:01,719 Speaker 1: funnel resources away from the neediest. Members alone made clear 1310 01:41:02,200 --> 01:41:09,960 Speaker 1: what was happening autism centers in Minnesota. This is very 1311 01:41:10,080 --> 01:41:13,640 Speaker 1: This is a very telling statistic. Autism centers in Minnesota 1312 01:41:14,040 --> 01:41:20,520 Speaker 1: grew by seven hundred percent between twenty eighteen and twenty 1313 01:41:20,640 --> 01:41:25,240 Speaker 1: twenty three, once it became clear how much welfare money 1314 01:41:25,320 --> 01:41:32,360 Speaker 1: was available for the taking. Now, has autism grown commensurate 1315 01:41:32,800 --> 01:41:43,720 Speaker 1: with that seven hundred percent explosion in these autism centers? No. 1316 01:41:45,800 --> 01:41:49,760 Speaker 1: And here's a question that I think a curious mind 1317 01:41:49,760 --> 01:41:55,120 Speaker 1: would ask, why are so many Somalis involved in autism 1318 01:41:55,320 --> 01:42:01,960 Speaker 1: community centers autism centers among other things? But that's definitely 1319 01:42:02,080 --> 01:42:06,000 Speaker 1: a question worth the asking. Funding, by the way, increased 1320 01:42:06,000 --> 01:42:09,879 Speaker 1: by three thousand percent, from six million dollars to almost 1321 01:42:09,920 --> 01:42:13,759 Speaker 1: one hundred and ninety two million dollars. No reasonable person 1322 01:42:13,840 --> 01:42:19,760 Speaker 1: could possibly believe this money was addressing a real surgeon autism, 1323 01:42:20,120 --> 01:42:25,439 Speaker 1: Yet attempts to flag strange trends went unanswered. Again, the 1324 01:42:25,560 --> 01:42:32,160 Speaker 1: Washington Post editorial board wrote, the same Washington Post that 1325 01:42:32,720 --> 01:42:39,680 Speaker 1: won a Pulitzer Prize for lying about Russia collusion, that 1326 01:42:40,479 --> 01:42:47,000 Speaker 1: took so long to even acknowledge that h the whole 1327 01:42:47,040 --> 01:42:51,559 Speaker 1: Russia collusion hoax was exactly that a hoax. The same 1328 01:42:51,680 --> 01:43:01,080 Speaker 1: newspaper that covered for Joe Biden's derelict son, cocaine Hunter 1329 01:43:02,040 --> 01:43:10,280 Speaker 1: and his laptop problems. Even the Washington Post acknowledges a scam. 1330 01:43:10,400 --> 01:43:13,760 Speaker 1: Can understand a scam when they see it. We all can. 1331 01:43:14,760 --> 01:43:20,920 Speaker 1: And either this guy, Tim Walls was so oblivious about 1332 01:43:20,960 --> 01:43:24,880 Speaker 1: it because he was busy checking off boxes of which 1333 01:43:24,960 --> 01:43:31,120 Speaker 1: communities should be helped and which communities should not be helped, 1334 01:43:32,200 --> 01:43:39,880 Speaker 1: which communities deserved equity, which communities could be counted in 1335 01:43:39,960 --> 01:43:43,880 Speaker 1: the inclusion camp, in which communities should be disregarded because 1336 01:43:43,880 --> 01:43:50,120 Speaker 1: they're what systemically racist while he was busy doing that, 1337 01:43:50,320 --> 01:43:56,760 Speaker 1: Or he's complicit in this thing. He either didn't know 1338 01:43:57,680 --> 01:44:06,400 Speaker 1: that it happened, which is really bad, bad enough, or 1339 01:44:06,439 --> 01:44:13,920 Speaker 1: he was assisting these Somalis in their corrupt pursuits. They 1340 01:44:14,000 --> 01:44:19,960 Speaker 1: just didn't steal Minnesota money. They didn't just steal Minneapolis money. 1341 01:44:21,000 --> 01:44:24,840 Speaker 1: They stole your money and my money, and the taxpayer 1342 01:44:24,840 --> 01:44:29,720 Speaker 1: money from across the country. And they did it, of 1343 01:44:29,760 --> 01:44:34,200 Speaker 1: course at the federal level, during a time when we 1344 01:44:34,360 --> 01:44:40,200 Speaker 1: had liberals in Congress and a guy with an auto 1345 01:44:40,240 --> 01:44:46,559 Speaker 1: pen in the White House sending out billions, hundreds of 1346 01:44:46,680 --> 01:44:51,519 Speaker 1: billions of dollars in money, so much of it that 1347 01:44:51,720 --> 01:44:55,360 Speaker 1: was unchecked, unaccountable, so much of it that came back 1348 01:44:55,400 --> 01:45:03,120 Speaker 1: as stolen miss You used fraudulent waste all of it, 1349 01:45:04,680 --> 01:45:09,040 Speaker 1: and Tim Walls tries to defend himself by saying, I 1350 01:45:09,040 --> 01:45:10,680 Speaker 1: didn't even know what the hell he was saying. It's 1351 01:45:10,800 --> 01:45:14,120 Speaker 1: like that moment in the Trump when Trump is debating 1352 01:45:14,160 --> 01:45:19,920 Speaker 1: Biden and he's just he's astounded, like the rest of us, 1353 01:45:20,080 --> 01:45:23,720 Speaker 1: that somebody could have an answer, or, in Biden's case, 1354 01:45:23,840 --> 01:45:28,040 Speaker 1: mumble an answer like he did. And Trump turns and says, 1355 01:45:28,080 --> 01:45:29,439 Speaker 1: I don't know what the hell he's saying. I don't 1356 01:45:29,439 --> 01:45:31,240 Speaker 1: think he knows what the hell he's saying. And I 1357 01:45:31,280 --> 01:45:35,280 Speaker 1: think that is Tim Walls, although I think Tim Walls 1358 01:45:35,680 --> 01:45:38,800 Speaker 1: actually does know what he's saying. Yeah, it's my responsibility 1359 01:45:38,840 --> 01:45:45,400 Speaker 1: to put people in jail. Now, pulls up his blue 1360 01:45:45,479 --> 01:45:49,800 Speaker 1: jeans and tucksas flannel shirt. Yeah, I'm the sheriff here 1361 01:45:49,840 --> 01:45:53,000 Speaker 1: in town, and by gum, I'm gonna put people in 1362 01:45:53,120 --> 01:45:58,160 Speaker 1: jail if they commit fraud. But you didn't, Tim, you 1363 01:45:58,240 --> 01:46:06,400 Speaker 1: didn't for years, and then you have the audacity to 1364 01:46:06,479 --> 01:46:11,120 Speaker 1: blame Donald Trump for fraud committed on your watch and 1365 01:46:11,240 --> 01:46:17,960 Speaker 1: in your state by an ethnic group that you desperately 1366 01:46:19,080 --> 01:46:24,320 Speaker 1: need and coddle because you want to win election and 1367 01:46:24,360 --> 01:46:27,479 Speaker 1: you want to keep Democrats in power, and you see 1368 01:46:27,479 --> 01:46:32,400 Speaker 1: that as a vehicle. That's what this is all about. 1369 01:46:32,479 --> 01:46:36,600 Speaker 1: At the end of the day, it always is. This 1370 01:46:36,800 --> 01:46:41,360 Speaker 1: was a guy who failed to do his job is 1371 01:46:41,400 --> 01:46:45,000 Speaker 1: being called out on it, and of course tries to 1372 01:46:45,040 --> 01:46:50,639 Speaker 1: turn this into a Donald Trump thing. The bigger issue 1373 01:46:50,720 --> 01:46:57,320 Speaker 1: underneath is that there may be convictions, and there have 1374 01:46:57,479 --> 01:47:01,559 Speaker 1: been fifty more than fifty convictions, seventy eight people already 1375 01:47:01,600 --> 01:47:06,400 Speaker 1: caught up in this. Maybe they'll pay a price for that, 1376 01:47:08,840 --> 01:47:13,040 Speaker 1: but the money will never come back, the money that 1377 01:47:13,160 --> 01:47:15,519 Speaker 1: was supposed to actually help people. And I think the 1378 01:47:15,640 --> 01:47:19,960 Speaker 1: vast majority of Americans want to see welfare dollars helping 1379 01:47:20,080 --> 01:47:25,760 Speaker 1: people who are in need, not taxpayer money going to 1380 01:47:25,840 --> 01:47:30,880 Speaker 1: people who don't need it, and especially to people who 1381 01:47:30,920 --> 01:47:36,800 Speaker 1: are stealing it and using it for their own selfish purposes, 1382 01:47:36,840 --> 01:47:41,040 Speaker 1: who are breaking the law in receiving it. That's what 1383 01:47:41,120 --> 01:47:44,240 Speaker 1: this is all about. But this should not have come 1384 01:47:44,280 --> 01:47:47,640 Speaker 1: as a surprise to anybody. This is what the left 1385 01:47:48,479 --> 01:47:52,880 Speaker 1: has done and will continue to do in the name 1386 01:47:53,200 --> 01:48:01,160 Speaker 1: of equity and inclusion, the whole dea gamb but the 1387 01:48:01,240 --> 01:48:10,880 Speaker 1: whole campaign against their phony systemic racism, the whole white 1388 01:48:11,000 --> 01:48:17,320 Speaker 1: supremacy bit. It's a shakedown. It's a scam job. That's 1389 01:48:17,320 --> 01:48:20,080 Speaker 1: what we're dealing with. And a final point on all 1390 01:48:20,120 --> 01:48:24,400 Speaker 1: of that, we are dealing with a community, a Somali community. 1391 01:48:25,040 --> 01:48:29,200 Speaker 1: Beyond the scamming that went on within it. So many 1392 01:48:29,280 --> 01:48:36,080 Speaker 1: members of that community refuse to be Americans, to assimilate 1393 01:48:36,240 --> 01:48:41,559 Speaker 1: as Americans because they don't want to be Americans, even 1394 01:48:41,640 --> 01:48:47,840 Speaker 1: though they have gotten pasted a citizenship. Many are citizens now. 1395 01:48:51,120 --> 01:48:56,200 Speaker 1: Many in the community have expressed and voted for a 1396 01:48:56,360 --> 01:49:01,320 Speaker 1: loathing of America. And really, he ticks me off that 1397 01:49:01,439 --> 01:49:07,240 Speaker 1: people who hate America so much have received so much 1398 01:49:08,560 --> 01:49:15,360 Speaker 1: of our tax dollaries. We shall see, we shall see. 1399 01:49:15,960 --> 01:49:19,160 Speaker 1: One thing is clear, and this just made it that 1400 01:49:19,320 --> 01:49:25,280 Speaker 1: much clearer. Minnesota Governor Tim Walls is, without a doubt, 1401 01:49:26,600 --> 01:49:30,160 Speaker 1: an idiot. We'll take a quick break a few spare 1402 01:49:30,200 --> 01:49:33,400 Speaker 1: thoughts as we wrap up this Wednesday edition of The 1403 01:49:33,560 --> 01:49:39,040 Speaker 1: Dan O'Donnell's show, including the continued delusions of grandeur from 1404 01:49:39,160 --> 01:49:41,439 Speaker 1: the accomplice media. That's next. 1405 01:49:42,000 --> 01:49:46,719 Speaker 6: Hang on now, each arms. I hate it when people 1406 01:49:46,720 --> 01:49:52,040 Speaker 6: grab me lucky charms. I know they're magically delicious, but hi, 1407 01:49:52,080 --> 01:49:53,599 Speaker 6: how are you kittle here? 1408 01:49:53,680 --> 01:49:58,400 Speaker 1: You are there? Heading home? Heading closer to the weekend too. 1409 01:49:58,439 --> 01:50:02,320 Speaker 1: That feels good. Doesn't it tell you what happened to 1410 01:50:02,360 --> 01:50:13,559 Speaker 1: me over the Thanksgiving break? I became a Stranger Things geek. Yeah. Now, 1411 01:50:13,680 --> 01:50:19,160 Speaker 1: my eldest daughter watched this thing all the time and 1412 01:50:19,240 --> 01:50:22,360 Speaker 1: has watched all of the seasons. Are you a big 1413 01:50:22,840 --> 01:50:26,640 Speaker 1: Stranger Things guy? Eric? How about you, my friend? Do 1414 01:50:26,680 --> 01:50:29,040 Speaker 1: you like The Stranger Things? Never seen it? 1415 01:50:29,160 --> 01:50:29,519 Speaker 2: All? Right? 1416 01:50:29,920 --> 01:50:34,200 Speaker 1: It's a kid show. I mean it's a teen type show, 1417 01:50:34,479 --> 01:50:37,720 Speaker 1: but it's set in the nineteen eighties, and I think Eric, 1418 01:50:37,720 --> 01:50:39,640 Speaker 1: you would enjoy this because you're a fellow of a 1419 01:50:39,680 --> 01:50:45,400 Speaker 1: certain age like yours, truly, and you have some context 1420 01:50:45,439 --> 01:50:47,799 Speaker 1: for this stuff. So when they go to the video 1421 01:50:47,960 --> 01:50:55,519 Speaker 1: game parlor and they're playing Dig, Doug and Frogger in 1422 01:50:55,600 --> 01:50:59,200 Speaker 1: all of these games from my childhood, it resonates. Of course, 1423 01:50:59,240 --> 01:51:02,919 Speaker 1: the soundtrack is all eighties stuff, so I've heard everything 1424 01:51:02,960 --> 01:51:05,720 Speaker 1: from The Cult to Kate Bush, of course, and you know, 1425 01:51:05,840 --> 01:51:09,040 Speaker 1: all those things start coming back. But it is, you know, 1426 01:51:09,080 --> 01:51:12,479 Speaker 1: it's sci fi geekdom, there's no doubt about it. It's 1427 01:51:12,560 --> 01:51:15,080 Speaker 1: the Stephen King feel to it, all of these sorts 1428 01:51:15,120 --> 01:51:18,040 Speaker 1: of things. But the acting is pretty good. When on 1429 01:51:18,160 --> 01:51:21,240 Speaker 1: a Rider is in it. Speaking of the eighties, the 1430 01:51:21,360 --> 01:51:24,080 Speaker 1: kids look like kids I grew up with. They ride 1431 01:51:24,120 --> 01:51:27,320 Speaker 1: their bikes everywhere around town and the neighborhood out into 1432 01:51:27,320 --> 01:51:30,880 Speaker 1: the woods. I mean, there's a lot to like about it, 1433 01:51:31,920 --> 01:51:35,879 Speaker 1: but I think we got caught up with They released 1434 01:51:36,400 --> 01:51:40,240 Speaker 1: the first four episodes of season five over the Thanksgiving holiday. 1435 01:51:40,960 --> 01:51:44,920 Speaker 1: They have I believe nine total episodes. This is the 1436 01:51:44,960 --> 01:51:50,320 Speaker 1: final the series finale coming up. They'll release I believe 1437 01:51:50,400 --> 01:51:56,360 Speaker 1: four episodes on Christmas Eve or Christmas Day and then 1438 01:51:56,400 --> 01:52:00,760 Speaker 1: the final It's like a two hour epic up on 1439 01:52:02,720 --> 01:52:06,840 Speaker 1: New Year's Eve New Year's Day. And I gotta tell you, 1440 01:52:07,560 --> 01:52:10,559 Speaker 1: I'm a little bit hooked. I watched this stuff like 1441 01:52:10,640 --> 01:52:13,320 Speaker 1: on and off, didn't really pay much attention to it 1442 01:52:13,800 --> 01:52:17,120 Speaker 1: while my daughter was watching it at first, and then 1443 01:52:17,160 --> 01:52:19,720 Speaker 1: I started like, oh, yeah, that's cool. I remember this 1444 01:52:19,760 --> 01:52:23,120 Speaker 1: stuff from the nineteen eighties. It connected, and so I 1445 01:52:23,160 --> 01:52:26,879 Speaker 1: started watching it and I probably I may have watched 1446 01:52:26,960 --> 01:52:30,280 Speaker 1: half of the four seasons so far. We're watching it. 1447 01:52:30,320 --> 01:52:34,600 Speaker 1: We're rewatching it again as we get closer closer to 1448 01:52:35,760 --> 01:52:41,400 Speaker 1: the finale here. But my geekdom is definitely showing man. 1449 01:52:41,439 --> 01:52:45,280 Speaker 1: They have the old Kenner Star Wars toys in there, 1450 01:52:45,840 --> 01:52:51,000 Speaker 1: the Millennium Falcon the ton ton You remember that from 1451 01:52:51,479 --> 01:52:54,400 Speaker 1: the planet, the ice planet Hawth, which, by the way, 1452 01:52:54,439 --> 01:52:56,400 Speaker 1: is what it's going to feel like if you're not 1453 01:52:56,520 --> 01:53:00,840 Speaker 1: near the lake tonight, it's gonna be downright cold. An 1454 01:53:00,840 --> 01:53:06,640 Speaker 1: empire strikes illusion, which really exposes my geekdom. This is 1455 01:53:06,760 --> 01:53:09,080 Speaker 1: one of the funniest stories you'll find today, and it's 1456 01:53:09,120 --> 01:53:16,400 Speaker 1: written with all seriousness from Axios, which considers itself serious 1457 01:53:16,479 --> 01:53:21,280 Speaker 1: journalism as it carries water, of course, for the Democrat 1458 01:53:21,360 --> 01:53:24,639 Speaker 1: Party and the leftist movement in America. The headline is this, 1459 01:53:26,080 --> 01:53:29,160 Speaker 1: we can't have too many chuckles in this day and age. 1460 01:53:29,280 --> 01:53:33,880 Speaker 1: Behind the curtain the power of real reporting. What is 1461 01:53:33,920 --> 01:53:36,639 Speaker 1: that real reporting they're referring to, well, they're referring to 1462 01:53:36,720 --> 01:53:41,000 Speaker 1: the corporate media, the accomplished media, the usual suspects Washington 1463 01:53:41,120 --> 01:53:46,320 Speaker 1: Post and the New York Times, and Axios and CNN, 1464 01:53:47,600 --> 01:53:53,160 Speaker 1: NBC News and the rest. It notes in their little 1465 01:53:53,160 --> 01:53:58,960 Speaker 1: story here about real reporting. President Trump came into office 1466 01:53:59,000 --> 01:54:05,080 Speaker 1: promising to decapitate mainstream media. He bullied and sued media companies, 1467 01:54:05,160 --> 01:54:09,960 Speaker 1: blocked or curtailed access for reporters, and elevated non traditional 1468 01:54:10,000 --> 01:54:13,599 Speaker 1: news sources. How dare he do that? When the so 1469 01:54:13,680 --> 01:54:18,040 Speaker 1: called mainstream media has been so objective. Of course, over 1470 01:54:18,080 --> 01:54:24,960 Speaker 1: the years, Axio says, though it doesn't matter because the 1471 01:54:25,200 --> 01:54:29,520 Speaker 1: government bureaucrats in the Trump administration are still leaking information 1472 01:54:29,680 --> 01:54:33,680 Speaker 1: to the real reporters out there, the aforementioned Axios, Washington Post, 1473 01:54:33,720 --> 01:54:36,960 Speaker 1: you name it. They're getting the message through to America. 1474 01:54:37,280 --> 01:54:42,720 Speaker 1: People are still listening. By the way, the Washington Post 1475 01:54:43,640 --> 01:54:54,360 Speaker 1: got some information about Secretary of Defense Heath Keith Pete Hegseth. 1476 01:54:55,600 --> 01:55:01,560 Speaker 1: You know, these drug running boats from Venezuela and what 1477 01:55:01,720 --> 01:55:06,960 Speaker 1: have you. And in September, our military knocked them out 1478 01:55:07,000 --> 01:55:10,080 Speaker 1: as they're supposed to do. And there's this big thing about, oh, 1479 01:55:10,120 --> 01:55:12,480 Speaker 1: how could you possibly do this? How could you kill 1480 01:55:12,640 --> 01:55:17,320 Speaker 1: drug runners and murderers, people who are pushing in poisonous 1481 01:55:17,360 --> 01:55:22,200 Speaker 1: fentanyl into our country? How could you possibly do that? Well, anyway, 1482 01:55:23,000 --> 01:55:28,320 Speaker 1: the Washington Post says it got some key information about 1483 01:55:29,840 --> 01:55:33,080 Speaker 1: what happened and when it happened with hag Seth and crew. 1484 01:55:33,640 --> 01:55:38,200 Speaker 1: Turned out to be totally incorrect, totally fabricated. And you 1485 01:55:38,280 --> 01:55:41,560 Speaker 1: know who called out the Washington Post on that. The 1486 01:55:41,680 --> 01:55:45,000 Speaker 1: New York Times, which again tells you it has to 1487 01:55:45,040 --> 01:55:50,000 Speaker 1: be really bad, really awful for the Times to do that. 1488 01:55:50,680 --> 01:55:53,080 Speaker 1: One final story before we say a do, and that 1489 01:55:53,200 --> 01:55:56,160 Speaker 1: is this from the New York Post today, the least 1490 01:55:56,320 --> 01:56:02,840 Speaker 1: surprising story of this Wednesday. Gavin Nooso winning early enthusiasm 1491 01:56:03,360 --> 01:56:07,160 Speaker 1: from liberal Hollywood donors ahead of twenty eight, according to 1492 01:56:07,160 --> 01:56:13,920 Speaker 1: a report. That's right, old grin and Gavin Newsom has 1493 01:56:13,960 --> 01:56:19,600 Speaker 1: an advantage with liberal Hollywood in his home state, and 1494 01:56:20,000 --> 01:56:24,480 Speaker 1: a new report shows he could be winning the early 1495 01:56:24,640 --> 01:56:31,120 Speaker 1: battle for the deep pockets of tinsel Town ahead of 1496 01:56:31,160 --> 01:56:34,160 Speaker 1: the twenty twenty eight Democratic primer. Can you believe that 1497 01:56:35,000 --> 01:56:41,280 Speaker 1: the far left governor of California who was born sadly enough, 1498 01:56:42,200 --> 01:56:48,400 Speaker 1: without a conscience. It's troubling. There's no words for it. 1499 01:56:49,760 --> 01:56:54,040 Speaker 1: He has the early support of Hollywood. He's a fighter, 1500 01:56:54,640 --> 01:56:58,840 Speaker 1: That's what we need. A top tier producer, described as 1501 01:56:58,880 --> 01:57:05,600 Speaker 1: a reliable dem atm over the decades told Deadline, I 1502 01:57:05,760 --> 01:57:10,080 Speaker 1: just wish more Democrats the like Chuck Schumer and the 1503 01:57:10,200 --> 01:57:16,200 Speaker 1: leadership in Congress would emulate him not taking any s 1504 01:57:17,160 --> 01:57:24,440 Speaker 1: blank blank blank from Trump. Really, this leftist dufus Newsom 1505 01:57:24,520 --> 01:57:28,560 Speaker 1: has won plaudits on the left for his more pugnacious 1506 01:57:28,600 --> 01:57:34,720 Speaker 1: style toward Trump. Boy, oh boy, Gavin Newsom the front 1507 01:57:34,760 --> 01:57:39,560 Speaker 1: runner in the moneyed interest from Hollywood. That's like, that's 1508 01:57:39,560 --> 01:57:43,680 Speaker 1: as surprising to me as Kamala Harris buying boxes of 1509 01:57:44,280 --> 01:57:49,040 Speaker 1: wine at the Walmart. That's gonna do it for us. 1510 01:57:49,080 --> 01:57:51,160 Speaker 1: Always enjoy being here until we talk again. This is 1511 01:57:51,200 --> 01:57:54,800 Speaker 1: Kittle saying goodbye, so long, God bless