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Speaker 1: on Wednesday, so a couple of vocal maintenance editions for him.

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Speaker 1: We'll get to the timber Tech set list momentarily, but

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Speaker 1: and that brings us to the Weekend Rap. Monday Morning's

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Speaker 1: Weekend Rap is now presented by Northern Fire Grilling and

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Speaker 1: Barbecue Supply in minnetaka old radio friends that are friends

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Speaker 1: yet again. Welcome back to Aaron, John Brad Missy and

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Speaker 1: everybody associated with Northern Fire.

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Speaker 2: Now this time of year, weekend Rap.

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Speaker 1: What a time to return to the weekend Rap, right,

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Speaker 1: Brett Blake Moore, When we still have ten days.

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Speaker 2: Before the wild Play Wolves are.

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Speaker 1: Off till the end of the week, NFL dead as ever,

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Speaker 1: NFL weird purgatory between the super Bowl and the Combine

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Speaker 1: which is next week. That's actually the Combine part of

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Speaker 1: the timber Tech setlist today, but let's kick it off.

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Speaker 2: It was still a busy weekend.

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Speaker 1: So for the weekend wrap Northern Fire Style, let's start

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Speaker 1: with an MVP from the weekend and the.

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Speaker 2: Key MVP goes to Anthony Edwards and I know you

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Speaker 2: want to be not just one of the best, you

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Speaker 2: want to be the best. How is this trophy a

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Speaker 2: step towards that. It's a step in the right direction.

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Speaker 2: That's how that is. We chose to compete today and

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Speaker 2: we came out on top. You talk about choosing to compete,

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Speaker 2: what do you like most about environments like this?

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Speaker 1: Talking a little trash and going up against the legends.

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Speaker 2: Of the game. I ain't gonna lie, Wendy said, the tone.

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Speaker 2: He came out playing hard, and you.

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Speaker 3: Know we had to follow that and we had to

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Speaker 2: You c KD and Lebron Garden. You why do you

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Speaker 2: want that match up?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: For sure, I want to cook them every time.

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Speaker 3: You know that.

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Speaker 2: Thanks an, thank you, Anthony m words.

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Speaker 1: The the All Star MVP, I kind of like the

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Speaker 1: Brett Skills Skills thing on, that's a different thing. Yet.

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Speaker 2: G leaguers coming up to do the dunk competition yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: It was kind of fun. I steal the exhibition game bits.

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Speaker 1: I enjoy them, even though I know the product's not

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Speaker 1: going to be a leap. But to Ant's point there yesterday,

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Speaker 1: I think it was Ant's team that just nipped in

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Speaker 1: overtime the Wemby squad the World Squad, and Wemby was

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Speaker 1: so pissed off. Brett Wendy was so pissed that somehow

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Speaker 1: was Scotty Barnes who hit one. Wemby looked like this

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Speaker 2: Well, I mean, it's an all star game.

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Speaker 1: It doesn't mean much, really anything at all other than

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Speaker 1: So it was cool to watch Ant handling business. I

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Speaker 1: suppose for the Stars Squad. Weekend Rap brought to you

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Speaker 1: by Northern Fire Grilling and Barbecue Supply. How about men's

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Speaker 1: hockey and our guy in the Olympics, Rock Geichel now

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Speaker 1: Brady Kachuck after Kachuck work it backed out, Shuck my favorite, Star.

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Speaker 2: Rock Trap. Look to Kravit with the club it gets

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Speaker 2: behind him. Rock Favorite comes to the United States.

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Speaker 1: Eight three nothing lead men's hockey. They crushed Germany yesterday

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Speaker 2: They play the winner of Latvia and Sweden.

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Speaker 1: I think it's tomorrow, and then they got to come

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Speaker 1: Medal would be in the gold medal game, correct? All right? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Ryan Carter and studio will continue this conversation. But you like, overall,

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Speaker 4: Germany was supposed to be the toughest test and turned

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Speaker 4: And I'm that Sweden game. If Sweden does beat Latvia,

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Speaker 2: So it'll be a big challenge for the US. Wow.

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Speaker 1: Sweet, And that's coming up on Wednesday and we'll see Canada.

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Speaker 1: It'd be cool to see a golden game Americans and Canadians,

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Speaker 1: And of course the two thousand and six game for

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Speaker 1: Sweden in the United States, the women, I think they lost,

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Speaker 1: But it looks it almost looks like a foregone conclusion.

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Speaker 2: Side, Maroon and gold.

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Speaker 1: Grilling and Barbie if you supply Gopher hoops. Lose at Washington,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it was early. It was early, and they had

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Speaker 2: To play more.

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Speaker 1: There was more time left on the clock and they

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Speaker 1: Huskies on Valentine's Day. This team they're gonna go beat

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Speaker 1: Tyson though absolute certified baller, he had twenty two.

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Speaker 2: This thing is spawning.

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Speaker 1: I think predictable results year one for mister Medved. Just

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Speaker 1: lack of resources is really what it comes down to you.

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Speaker 1: They're at the Ducks Pacific Northwest Swing continues with Oregon tomorrow.

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Speaker 2: Finally go for hockey.

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Speaker 1: They got to shootout dub on Friday, but couldn't get

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Speaker 3: In the old days, they room it on around and

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Speaker 3: he comes canoble up the right way. He hain't in

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Speaker 2: Pronouncing and is stream too Ornate Wally and mister Mikeletta.

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Speaker 1: You had Mikkeletty on Beyond the Pond on Saturday, correct, Yes, okay, sweet,

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Speaker 1: and we might we might hear from him tomorrow.

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Speaker 2: Motsco's team's just in disarray.

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Speaker 1: And I even heard some audio maybe it was after

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Speaker 1: last weekend where Big Ten.

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Speaker 2: On the calm team.

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Speaker 1: You know, it's becoming a conference of juggernauts. He used

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Speaker 4: it's so cyclical, especially hockey. I feel like you go,

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Speaker 1: For me, you're an elite college hockey mind. Thank you,

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Speaker 1: so Gophers, they get the shootout they'd lose three to

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Speaker 1: two on Saturday. And we'll end the Northern Fire Weekend

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Speaker 1: Wrap with a tip, a barbecue tip, a little philosophy

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Speaker 1: for you on a Monday morning to open nine to

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Speaker 1: noon barbecue.

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Speaker 2: While the rest of the world is obsessed.

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Speaker 1: With time, be obsessed with tenderness, not time, tenderness.

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Speaker 2: If you nail the finish, nothing else matters.

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Speaker 2: Now Brat, let's hit the Timber.

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Speaker 1: Tech set list, and that's going to include Ryan Carter.

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Speaker 1: You see him analyzing Wild Hockey on TV and of

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Speaker 1: course former member of the Wild. He's going to be

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Speaker 2: I think it's a week from today.

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Speaker 1: Alec Lewis will be finding his way to the NFL

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Speaker 1: scouting Combine in Indianapolis, and so we're going to catch

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Speaker 1: up Vike's NFL at Large, some combine bits with Alec

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Speaker 1: at ten and then Dan Hayes full squad practices. Everyone's

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Speaker 1: down in Fort Myers trying to construct whatever the heck

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Speaker 1: they're trying to do with his baseball team. Dan Hayes

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Speaker 1: covers the Twins at a high level for the athletic

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Speaker 1: He's going to join me at eleven and the conversation.

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Speaker 1: You're heard some Buckston related bits over the last twenty

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Speaker 1: four to thirty six hours.

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Speaker 2: Just a little frustration.

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Speaker 1: Wanted the team to maybe be a little more vocal

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Speaker 2: We got a hitting coach for.

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Speaker 1: Royce Lewis, we have Joe, Ryan and Pablo, and we

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Speaker 1: in the long term regarding a cap. So we'll talk

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Speaker 1: about all those things at eleven. That's a timber Tech

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Speaker 1: You see him on TV analyzing Minnesota Wild hockey. You

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Speaker 1: heard you were in studio with the Power Trip not

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Speaker 1: too long ago as well, weren't you.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it was Friday initials game. Didn't get skunk. That

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Speaker 5: was a big victory. Got you got one two? I

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Speaker 5: with a couple you walk away with. You can hold

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Speaker 5: your head high. Yeah, some integrity. Yeah, a win and

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Speaker 1: Uh now now with with the Minnesota Wild of course,

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Speaker 1: gracious enough to join us when we do boxing, the

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Speaker 1: box shows and all of that. You know, I appreciate

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Speaker 1: you hanging out this morning. Man, this is awesome, you

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Speaker 1: know what. It's just a good day. Like you wake

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Speaker 5: It's the middle of February, the sun is out, the

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Speaker 2: I'm just happy to be out and about right now. No,

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Speaker 1: I was thinking about that because it's been so warm

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Speaker 5: So I've got a rink in the backyard and then

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Speaker 5: a little slushy.

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Speaker 2: Well, yeah, it's it's cooked. It's cooked. It's over right.

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Speaker 1: We're headed up there Friday through Monday, so looking forward

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Speaker 1: to that. How have you enjoyed the break man, it's

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Speaker 2: What do you think good?

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Speaker 5: some of these Olympics. The games have been fun to watch,

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Speaker 2: Enjoying it for sure.

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Speaker 1: that's unbelievable him on the ice. But favor getting that goal.

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Speaker 1: your career where uh you got You tried as hard

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Speaker 2: It's funny.

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Speaker 5: like what makes these guys so good because they do

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Speaker 2: In the net. But where I said, luck isn't as

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Speaker 5: I think as we think like they're smart, like brock

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Speaker 5: be prepared, might be looking a different direction reading the play,

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Speaker 5: so he scores on that one. But I do look

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Speaker 5: from time to time I watch that Caprice soft score

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Speaker 2: Of its talent.

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Speaker 5: Some of it is like how does the puck just

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Speaker 5: sometimes I get jealous of that, that fortune and that

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Speaker 2: But no, I can't.

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Speaker 5: I can't say that I ever had a ton of

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Speaker 1: Well I wasn't trying to go down that road. I will,

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Speaker 1: but okay, that's and I'll leave that to you. But

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Speaker 1: just the way the puck bounces. But it is kind

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Speaker 5: And I think that puck luck occurs for teams more

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Speaker 5: than it does for players at times too. Your work

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Speaker 5: give them a little bit more ice. You know, they

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Speaker 5: never dump it, but they do there and it goes off.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 5: Like different things like that lead to good luck in

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Speaker 5: different plays. But I think you're right, it's it's how

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Speaker 5: you play. I tell the girls that I coach like you,

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Speaker 5: you earn your luck.

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Speaker 5: If you want, if you want to puck to go off,

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Speaker 5: so you you are in your luck. There's some truth

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Speaker 1: How have what have you seen from from the wild players?

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Speaker 1: I mean there's a ton of them, so it's not

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Speaker 1: What have you thought of our guys? We're in their

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Speaker 5: They're good so stateside, we haven't had the broadcasts of

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Speaker 5: Two young guys with skill came in and kind of

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Speaker 5: He ends up having a great tournament, leads the tournament

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Speaker 1: You need me twenty seven minutes, and now I'll give

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Speaker 5: I think for him it comes down to just mental fortitude.

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Speaker 5: Like the ability's there, that's the case with so many

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00:20:02,000 --> 00:20:05,199
Speaker 5: young players, the abilities there. It's mentally how do you

439
00:20:05,240 --> 00:20:07,440
Speaker 5: handle the pressure, how do you handle the success, how

440
00:20:07,440 --> 00:20:09,840
Speaker 5: do you handle the struggles? And rock Favor has been

441
00:20:09,840 --> 00:20:12,360
Speaker 5: able to do all of that. I mean his rookie year,

442
00:20:12,720 --> 00:20:15,320
Speaker 5: he was so focused that he didn't listen to the

443
00:20:15,359 --> 00:20:18,280
Speaker 5: outside noise. He wanted to complete Game eighty two. Then

444
00:20:18,320 --> 00:20:20,119
Speaker 5: the playoffs and then he'll take a breath and realize,

445
00:20:20,160 --> 00:20:22,439
Speaker 5: what did I just do? And I think he did that,

446
00:20:22,480 --> 00:20:24,040
Speaker 5: and then he went into it thinking, all right, this

447
00:20:24,119 --> 00:20:26,879
Speaker 5: is an important offseason for me, has a good offseason,

448
00:20:26,880 --> 00:20:29,040
Speaker 5: comes back the next year, gets an extension.

449
00:20:29,520 --> 00:20:31,360
Speaker 2: But it hasn't all been perfect.

450
00:20:31,440 --> 00:20:34,280
Speaker 5: I think about how he's handled some of the some

451
00:20:34,320 --> 00:20:36,480
Speaker 5: of the adversity. It's kind of a buzzword in sports.

452
00:20:36,480 --> 00:20:39,200
Speaker 5: I don't love it anymore. Yeah, you know, it's like everybody.

453
00:20:39,359 --> 00:20:42,639
Speaker 5: Everybody faces it. But there is some struggle for him

454
00:20:42,720 --> 00:20:46,080
Speaker 5: early on to begin this season. So he gets the contract,

455
00:20:46,200 --> 00:20:48,520
Speaker 5: it's the first year of it, and he wants to

456
00:20:48,560 --> 00:20:50,640
Speaker 5: produce like a guy that makes that kind of money.

457
00:20:50,720 --> 00:20:52,480
Speaker 5: So he comes out and he plays, and he struggles.

458
00:20:52,480 --> 00:20:54,840
Speaker 5: First ten games, didn't have a point, like was fighting

459
00:20:54,880 --> 00:20:57,560
Speaker 5: it that the microphones in his face, Like, hey, the

460
00:20:57,560 --> 00:20:59,760
Speaker 5: team has struggled the worst October ever, Like you're not

461
00:20:59,800 --> 00:21:00,639
Speaker 5: off to a good start.

462
00:21:00,680 --> 00:21:01,360
Speaker 2: What's happening.

463
00:21:01,600 --> 00:21:04,560
Speaker 5: But the difference in good players and ones that are

464
00:21:04,640 --> 00:21:07,320
Speaker 5: extremely impressive at a young age, they can handle all

465
00:21:07,320 --> 00:21:10,439
Speaker 5: that and turn it around quickly. Like it doesn't it

466
00:21:10,440 --> 00:21:14,199
Speaker 5: doesn't bleed into game twelve thirteen, twenty thirty forty. He

467
00:21:14,359 --> 00:21:17,040
Speaker 5: was able to turn the page, put that behind him,

468
00:21:17,240 --> 00:21:19,639
Speaker 5: get on the score sheet, find some confidence, and then

469
00:21:19,720 --> 00:21:22,160
Speaker 5: help take the team in a different direction. So it's

470
00:21:22,160 --> 00:21:25,640
Speaker 5: not all been roses for brock Favor. There have been

471
00:21:25,680 --> 00:21:28,280
Speaker 5: times that he has struggled, but he's just been able

472
00:21:28,320 --> 00:21:30,800
Speaker 5: to limit that amount of time to very short where

473
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Speaker 5: you don't notice.

474
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Speaker 1: It'd be cool because they'll face the winner of Sweden

475
00:21:35,160 --> 00:21:37,679
Speaker 1: and Lafvia. Then we get to see everything. That's what

476
00:21:37,840 --> 00:21:40,240
Speaker 1: that's that's the game I wanted. That's the number one

477
00:21:40,280 --> 00:21:42,359
Speaker 1: game I wanted to see. Is brock Favor have to

478
00:21:42,359 --> 00:21:44,639
Speaker 1: push ericson that got the crease other than other than

479
00:21:44,720 --> 00:21:47,040
Speaker 1: stirm with Germany. Maybe I'm missing I mean basically that's

480
00:21:47,080 --> 00:21:49,919
Speaker 1: all our guys. Yeah, it's going to be so that

481
00:21:49,920 --> 00:21:52,879
Speaker 1: would be that would be Wednesday if they do it.

482
00:21:52,920 --> 00:21:56,240
Speaker 1: Now I'm watching watching the Germany game and could shock

483
00:21:56,359 --> 00:21:59,320
Speaker 1: chirpin it, Jessie, I mean that was beautiful. Always the

484
00:21:59,359 --> 00:22:03,159
Speaker 1: bridesmaid for the bride, which which is it sparked? This

485
00:22:03,400 --> 00:22:06,600
Speaker 1: crazy kind of social media has all sorts of conversations

486
00:22:06,600 --> 00:22:10,679
Speaker 1: that can arise from seemingly nothing but people arguing, like

487
00:22:10,760 --> 00:22:13,800
Speaker 1: the validity of Ku Chuck on the Panthers, how much

488
00:22:13,840 --> 00:22:16,880
Speaker 1: he has helped or not helped the Panthers and their

489
00:22:16,880 --> 00:22:19,600
Speaker 1: title winning ways in recent years. Like, it was just

490
00:22:19,640 --> 00:22:21,720
Speaker 1: kind of nutty to see that and just kind of

491
00:22:21,720 --> 00:22:24,040
Speaker 1: going back in time and thinking about like the Ka

492
00:22:24,160 --> 00:22:28,639
Speaker 1: Chuck Huberdo trade that sent Huberto I think to Calgary

493
00:22:29,160 --> 00:22:32,080
Speaker 1: and that's what got Kulchuck to Florida and they basically

494
00:22:32,080 --> 00:22:34,480
Speaker 1: have just gone to the finals ever since. But it

495
00:22:34,560 --> 00:22:37,000
Speaker 1: was just kind of funny seeing that on the international stage,

496
00:22:37,320 --> 00:22:39,760
Speaker 1: two guys that have been fighting it out in the

497
00:22:39,800 --> 00:22:42,719
Speaker 1: finals a couple of years in a row, and Ka

498
00:22:42,840 --> 00:22:45,080
Speaker 1: Chuck always has something to say.

499
00:22:44,920 --> 00:22:45,840
Speaker 2: Giveing it to Leon.

500
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Speaker 5: There's obviously history there playing in the finals against each

501
00:22:50,400 --> 00:22:50,879
Speaker 5: other a couple of.

502
00:22:50,920 --> 00:22:53,680
Speaker 2: Years and Florida winning both of them, and you know.

503
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Speaker 5: Dry title that's in dry sidle. This is going to

504
00:22:58,520 --> 00:23:04,119
Speaker 5: be something that he probably has to deal with probably

505
00:23:04,440 --> 00:23:08,439
Speaker 5: the rest of his life, is playing alongside Connor McDavid.

506
00:23:08,440 --> 00:23:11,040
Speaker 5: Connor McDavid's just a little bit better. So like how

507
00:23:11,080 --> 00:23:14,240
Speaker 5: good are you Leon? You know, you get to play

508
00:23:14,359 --> 00:23:17,480
Speaker 5: with Connor McDavid and Leon's a great player. But that's

509
00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:20,960
Speaker 5: the basis of that chirp is you know, you're always

510
00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:23,119
Speaker 5: the bride's maid, never the bride, like it's never about you.

511
00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:25,480
Speaker 5: And I think what made that thing is look at

512
00:23:25,520 --> 00:23:29,640
Speaker 5: Canada right now with McDavid, Canada is good. Now now

513
00:23:29,680 --> 00:23:32,560
Speaker 5: you are the bride in Germany and look like I

514
00:23:32,600 --> 00:23:34,880
Speaker 5: get it, he doesn't have the pieces around him, but look,

515
00:23:35,480 --> 00:23:37,400
Speaker 5: you're not able to do it like when you're the bride.

516
00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:39,919
Speaker 5: It's not as good, you know. So that churp I

517
00:23:39,920 --> 00:23:42,439
Speaker 5: think resonates a little bit. And what I'd love to

518
00:23:42,520 --> 00:23:45,560
Speaker 5: know is if is if Kachuck had that holster, if

519
00:23:45,560 --> 00:23:48,720
Speaker 5: that's the first time dry Sidle has heard that, you know,

520
00:23:49,040 --> 00:23:51,520
Speaker 5: or if he's heard it before in some of these

521
00:23:51,560 --> 00:23:54,240
Speaker 5: playoffs series and it's just keep he keeps needling with it.

522
00:23:54,320 --> 00:23:57,840
Speaker 2: Well, I wonder people have had to notice for years,

523
00:23:58,040 --> 00:23:58,280
Speaker 2: I mean.

524
00:23:58,480 --> 00:24:02,760
Speaker 1: And similarly, if like if a Marcus Johansson got to

525
00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:06,000
Speaker 1: play maybe on a on a different line at times,

526
00:24:06,040 --> 00:24:08,520
Speaker 1: you could see maybe point production goes up, right like

527
00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:11,959
Speaker 1: if You're off played with Boldie and Caprice off and

528
00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:14,160
Speaker 1: I'm not saying you're off's not growing, but You're off

529
00:24:14,160 --> 00:24:16,800
Speaker 1: would probably benefit in the stat sheet from that way.

530
00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:20,280
Speaker 1: So people have been knowing they had to have been

531
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Speaker 1: giving him craft for years about that.

532
00:24:22,040 --> 00:24:23,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, that wouldn't that drive you insane?

533
00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:27,200
Speaker 5: Yes, you almost want to give you get fifty goals,

534
00:24:27,320 --> 00:24:29,679
Speaker 5: you're getting a hundred points, and you're like, what do

535
00:24:29,720 --> 00:24:32,120
Speaker 5: you mean, Like it's not just that easy. You can't

536
00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:33,880
Speaker 5: just yeah, you just can't tie your skates and get

537
00:24:33,880 --> 00:24:36,920
Speaker 5: a hundred points. And that's what I think makes it hurt, right,

538
00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:38,880
Speaker 5: because there's some truth to it, but it's.

539
00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:41,560
Speaker 2: All there's also like little truth to it, little to it,

540
00:24:41,640 --> 00:24:42,520
Speaker 2: little truth to it.

541
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Speaker 1: Indeed, I was I was watching that game so so

542
00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:48,320
Speaker 1: other than the Kachuck moment, which made me laugh. Man,

543
00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:51,359
Speaker 1: Tage Thompson, how good is he on the ice? Just

544
00:24:51,560 --> 00:24:53,920
Speaker 1: one might having a Tage Thompson on my team just.

545
00:24:53,880 --> 00:24:57,120
Speaker 5: A force, like you see what the importance of size.

546
00:24:57,200 --> 00:25:01,919
Speaker 5: He's massive and just how at one point too, like

547
00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:05,000
Speaker 5: he just stood over somebody and that that individual is like,

548
00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:06,560
Speaker 5: you know what, I think, I'm just gonna let you

549
00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:08,600
Speaker 5: do what you want to do, you know, and but

550
00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:11,720
Speaker 5: having a righty that you know, listen to some of

551
00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:13,880
Speaker 5: the comments out of the Olympics and a big part

552
00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:15,359
Speaker 5: of the reason he made the team wasn't on the

553
00:25:15,359 --> 00:25:17,720
Speaker 5: Four Nations team is to have the big right shot

554
00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:20,280
Speaker 5: and to have options on the power play, and the

555
00:25:20,359 --> 00:25:22,520
Speaker 5: right shot is something that's coveted. I think even you

556
00:25:22,520 --> 00:25:26,040
Speaker 5: look at the Wild Star's BOLDI Lefty Caprisov, lefty Eric Sanak,

557
00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:30,760
Speaker 5: lefty Quinn Hughes, lefty Matt Zucarello lefty Ryan Hartman is

558
00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:33,679
Speaker 5: about your only righty and in your top six if

559
00:25:33,720 --> 00:25:34,520
Speaker 5: I'm not mistaken.

560
00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:38,000
Speaker 2: So were you a righty or a left lefty? Yeah?

561
00:25:38,040 --> 00:25:40,720
Speaker 2: So having a righty option there is Why is everyone

562
00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:41,760
Speaker 2: left handed in hockey?

563
00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:44,120
Speaker 5: It's I think it's switched out where it's probably more

564
00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:46,679
Speaker 5: even than it was. But I think conventional wisdom was

565
00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:50,040
Speaker 5: that you want your dominant hand on the top of

566
00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:51,840
Speaker 5: your stick because you play a lot of the game

567
00:25:51,920 --> 00:25:54,120
Speaker 5: with just one hand on your stick too, and then

568
00:25:54,280 --> 00:25:57,000
Speaker 5: your top hand does a lot of the work stick

569
00:25:57,040 --> 00:25:58,960
Speaker 5: handling and handling the pucke, your bottom hands more of

570
00:25:59,000 --> 00:25:59,520
Speaker 5: a guide.

571
00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:02,399
Speaker 2: So you want you want a.

572
00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:05,080
Speaker 1: Golf club or a baseball bat right handed, yes, I do,

573
00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:08,080
Speaker 1: but but for hockey in particular left correct?

574
00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:08,520
Speaker 2: Wow?

575
00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:11,680
Speaker 5: Okay, So it's like it's similar like ping pong. You'd

576
00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:13,760
Speaker 5: have it in your strong hand, like it does all

577
00:26:13,760 --> 00:26:16,040
Speaker 5: the work right, and that's the same movement that you

578
00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:17,879
Speaker 5: kind of have with your hockey stick. You want it

579
00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:19,800
Speaker 5: in your dominant hand, you put it in your opposite hand.

580
00:26:19,800 --> 00:26:22,639
Speaker 5: It doesn't it didn't feel is right. Like the story

581
00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:26,719
Speaker 5: for me, my family didn't know hockey. So but I

582
00:26:26,760 --> 00:26:29,280
Speaker 5: threw a ball right handed. I wrote right handed, and

583
00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:31,040
Speaker 5: I was like, Dad, I want to play hockey. They

584
00:26:31,080 --> 00:26:32,440
Speaker 5: went to the sporting good store. They brought me a

585
00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:35,040
Speaker 5: right handed stick because like, he's right handed, and I

586
00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:36,439
Speaker 5: turned it the other way and they're like, what are

587
00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:36,920
Speaker 5: you doing, man?

588
00:26:36,960 --> 00:26:38,040
Speaker 2: And I was like, I don't know. I just like,

589
00:26:38,119 --> 00:26:39,720
Speaker 2: it just feels right this way. So I was using

590
00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:40,879
Speaker 2: it the wrong way. I got in all kinds of

591
00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:43,000
Speaker 2: trouble because they had to go buy me these sticks.

592
00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:46,240
Speaker 1: Other than other than floor hockey. And let's just say

593
00:26:46,280 --> 00:26:48,240
Speaker 1: I got weak ankles. When it comes to skating on

594
00:26:48,280 --> 00:26:52,199
Speaker 1: the ice, it's not an impressive site. Look out if

595
00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:54,920
Speaker 1: I start trying to skate backwards. I just it's that's

596
00:26:55,040 --> 00:26:58,120
Speaker 1: one thing where I've never really I've never really held

597
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Speaker 1: a stick.

598
00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:02,119
Speaker 2: It's kind of a sad. It is missing out my

599
00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:03,800
Speaker 2: entire life in the state of hockey.

600
00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:06,760
Speaker 5: So you're going to the State ferry stopping by the

601
00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:08,440
Speaker 5: wild booth. You're not going to pick up that stick

602
00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:10,320
Speaker 5: and try to shoot for the targets. We got to

603
00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:12,359
Speaker 5: get you. We've got to get you the Hockey Expo

604
00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:14,120
Speaker 5: now and have you shoot. We got to see this.

605
00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:14,960
Speaker 5: This needs to be a bit.

606
00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:19,360
Speaker 1: The women puck drop is going to be less than

607
00:27:19,359 --> 00:27:22,240
Speaker 1: ten minutes from now, and I believe it's a semi

608
00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:25,159
Speaker 1: final with Sweden. What have you noticed about again, just

609
00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:29,639
Speaker 1: the juggernaut that are the ladies in this tournament in Milan.

610
00:27:29,800 --> 00:27:32,520
Speaker 5: Well, what I think what I've noticed is the future

611
00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:36,000
Speaker 5: of women's hockey is bright because the two of the

612
00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:38,960
Speaker 5: better players, or I should say stronger at least early

613
00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:42,320
Speaker 5: on in this tournament are young players Harvey and Abby Murphy,

614
00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:47,359
Speaker 5: And just the development of skill from in the women's

615
00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:50,080
Speaker 5: game is on the rise, and you can see it

616
00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:52,520
Speaker 5: in Abby Murphy and Harvey and some of these other

617
00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:55,879
Speaker 5: ladies and the work that is being put in. I

618
00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:58,680
Speaker 5: think at the youth level it is starting to show

619
00:27:58,760 --> 00:28:01,359
Speaker 5: up and the game is on for the women and

620
00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:05,040
Speaker 5: it's nice to see these young players kind of jump

621
00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:09,280
Speaker 5: on the big stage and again not be intimidated by

622
00:28:09,359 --> 00:28:13,200
Speaker 5: it and play well and be good, but the women's

623
00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:15,480
Speaker 5: team in general just just fast, confident.

624
00:28:15,840 --> 00:28:17,399
Speaker 2: You know you got you got an Abbey Murphy.

625
00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:19,560
Speaker 5: So there's a there's an element of kind of grit

626
00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:22,280
Speaker 5: and sandpaper to them a little bit too, which is nice.

627
00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:25,680
Speaker 5: I think the majority of them playing the p WHL too.

628
00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:27,760
Speaker 5: So you think about the rules in the p WHL,

629
00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:29,760
Speaker 5: and now this is where it's intriguing in the women's game.

630
00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:32,800
Speaker 5: The p WHL has kind of change their rules a

631
00:28:32,800 --> 00:28:36,280
Speaker 5: little bit where the game is allowed to be more physical.

632
00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:39,800
Speaker 5: It's not, hey, it's open season on hitting, but they're

633
00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:42,000
Speaker 5: allowed to they're allowed to bump, they're allowed to be

634
00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:43,120
Speaker 5: physical on the boards.

635
00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:45,560
Speaker 2: So there's like a little bit of a.

636
00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:49,560
Speaker 5: Grind and some physicality to the North American game because

637
00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:51,960
Speaker 5: I think those girls are playing in the p WHL

638
00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:54,640
Speaker 5: where you get to the international players and it's still

639
00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:57,120
Speaker 5: probably very much like the traditional women's hockey where it's

640
00:28:57,120 --> 00:29:00,280
Speaker 5: no hitting, kind of no bumping, nothing. So I think

641
00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:03,440
Speaker 5: you're seeing that too, just like physically that there's a

642
00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:07,400
Speaker 5: lot of confidence in like the small area battles in

643
00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:11,280
Speaker 5: the Olympics games, and the US is winning the majority.

644
00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:11,640
Speaker 2: Of not all of them.

645
00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:15,400
Speaker 1: Now you mentioned that you coach girls in hockey, and

646
00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:18,240
Speaker 1: I'm curious about that. You mentioned the physicality where it

647
00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:21,240
Speaker 1: almost kind of feels like there isn't a defined line

648
00:29:21,280 --> 00:29:23,040
Speaker 1: of that. And I forget which game it was, but

649
00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:25,120
Speaker 1: I saw a player just with an aught like I've

650
00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:27,360
Speaker 1: seen this type of hit let's say four or five

651
00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:30,080
Speaker 1: times in the game, and I forget which one it was.

652
00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:31,320
Speaker 2: It was one of the Americans.

653
00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:34,080
Speaker 1: She's called for an illegal hit, and I'm just kind

654
00:29:34,080 --> 00:29:35,760
Speaker 1: of thinking, like you almost have to like go in

655
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Speaker 1: and just I hope it's not hard enough. I don't

656
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Speaker 1: know if if the Olympics officiates it more differently. I'm

657
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Speaker 1: just curious.

658
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Speaker 5: I think I do think the Olympics officiate it differently.

659
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Speaker 2: It's more international rules. Okay, so they got to soften

660
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Speaker 2: up a bit.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, But at the same time, I think the Olympics,

662
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Speaker 5: and I don't know as well for the women's side,

663
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Speaker 5: the referees and if they're like p WHL referees, but

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Speaker 5: in the Olympics, you'll get any HL referees and then

665
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Speaker 5: you'll get international referees all mixed in and they might

666
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Speaker 5: they might call it differently just based on what they

667
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Speaker 5: view and how they interpret the rule. I know that

668
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Speaker 5: they want to have consistency obviously, but you know, like

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Speaker 5: even if you go to the men's side, like was

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Speaker 5: it a fight with Tom Wilson and the French player,

671
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Speaker 5: what does that look like?

672
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Speaker 2: Was there an instigator? Was there not?

673
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Speaker 5: Like those little things are interpreted differently I think from

674
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Speaker 5: North American rest from international referees, But on the women's game,

675
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Speaker 5: I think a lot of it isn't and we're going

676
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Speaker 5: to continue to learn this as they continue to refine.

677
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Speaker 5: It is proximity to the wall, like like the positioning

678
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Speaker 5: of the player, like middle of the ice near the

679
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Speaker 5: end wall, like we're.

680
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Speaker 2: In the body.

681
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Speaker 5: The hit is kind of made like if you initiate

682
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Speaker 5: contact with the hip that's different than with a shoulder

683
00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:52,760
Speaker 5: Like shoulder check might not be like fair game, but

684
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Speaker 5: like a hipcheck, if you have inside body position and

685
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Speaker 5: you just use that because you owned the ice first,

686
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Speaker 5: the other person skates through it, that's not a hit.

687
00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:02,719
Speaker 5: You know, little nuanced things like that that I think

688
00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:04,080
Speaker 5: we're going to have to learn and figure out as

689
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Speaker 5: the game continues to grow.

690
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Speaker 1: That's Ryan Carter, And of course, whether it's FanDuel of

691
00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:11,080
Speaker 1: Sports Network North or you hear him here you're home

692
00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:12,960
Speaker 1: for Wild Hockey, by the way, on the radio side

693
00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:15,320
Speaker 1: the fan, We're gonna pause and then come back one

694
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Speaker 1: more segment with him as women's hockey about to lift

695
00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:21,320
Speaker 1: off here against Sweden in the in the semi final

696
00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:24,160
Speaker 1: matchup of the Olympics. It's kind a little live programming

697
00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:26,440
Speaker 1: on a Monday morning. That's sweet, But I do want

698
00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:29,280
Speaker 1: to jump back to the Wild at some point about

699
00:31:29,280 --> 00:31:32,320
Speaker 1: ten days from now, the season will continue and it's

700
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Speaker 1: a sprint to the finish line. Start in a mile

701
00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:37,320
Speaker 1: high on the twenty sixth, but more hockey conversation with

702
00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:38,760
Speaker 1: Ryan Carter around the corner.

703
00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:53,360
Speaker 2: Next on the fan, another.

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Speaker 1: Segment with Ryan Carter fan Duel Sports Network North. I

705
00:31:57,160 --> 00:31:59,200
Speaker 1: hope I'm saying that correctly. You got the Wild on

706
00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:03,560
Speaker 1: seventh pod cast. I know that because of the six

707
00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:06,920
Speaker 1: four six eighty six bratch on Bryan Kfe and text line.

708
00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:09,240
Speaker 1: I knew you had the podcast. I was reminded of

709
00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:11,520
Speaker 1: it from Nick who says he graduated with you down

710
00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:12,400
Speaker 1: down in Mankato.

711
00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:14,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, must be a young guy. I had to check

712
00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:15,200
Speaker 2: the year though, because.

713
00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:18,120
Speaker 5: Yeah, because the graduation was twenty eighteen and I started

714
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Speaker 5: school two thousand and four.

715
00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:23,240
Speaker 2: So yeah, you do the math fourteen years later. It's cool.

716
00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:25,680
Speaker 2: It's tough, man. It's never too late. It's never too late.

717
00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:30,000
Speaker 1: Did you foresee yourself like, Okay, you know college is important, right,

718
00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:31,880
Speaker 1: I mean the way the conversations you'll have with your

719
00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:34,360
Speaker 1: kids about it, The conversations I'll have with my kids

720
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Speaker 1: who are in studio. A couple assistant producers today, Ava

721
00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:41,440
Speaker 1: and Stella, you'll have a conversation about college and what

722
00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:43,880
Speaker 1: it means and finding the right path through that.

723
00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:45,160
Speaker 2: Did you ever see like.

724
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna leave, I'm gonna go win a cup and

725
00:32:47,720 --> 00:32:49,920
Speaker 1: have a fun NHL career and then I'm just gonna

726
00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:50,800
Speaker 1: roll back and.

727
00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:52,920
Speaker 2: Be a student, be a student again. No.

728
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Speaker 5: I didn't glor oriented though, And the way it kind

729
00:32:56,360 --> 00:32:58,680
Speaker 5: of went for me is wanted to graduate, and I

730
00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:03,080
Speaker 5: wanted to graduate like kind of as quick as possible.

731
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Speaker 2: In college.

732
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Speaker 5: You know, we had to take some summer courses so

733
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Speaker 5: we were able to get ahead a little bit. And

734
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Speaker 5: then all of a sudden, after a couple of years,

735
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Speaker 5: there was an opportunity to play professional hockey and I

736
00:33:13,040 --> 00:33:17,160
Speaker 5: couldn't really turn that down. But Darren Blue and Minnesota

737
00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:20,280
Speaker 5: State helped me out. They offered some classes online. Was

738
00:33:20,280 --> 00:33:22,440
Speaker 5: able to go back, you know whatever that was like

739
00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:25,200
Speaker 5: ten years later, twelve years later, and find a way

740
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Speaker 5: to be able to graduate, which is kind of nice

741
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Speaker 5: because then I had the kids with me, and when

742
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Speaker 5: you have that conversation with them about the importance of

743
00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:34,160
Speaker 5: college and education, you can say you were there with

744
00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:36,120
Speaker 5: me when we did this, you know, So that's kind

745
00:33:36,120 --> 00:33:36,440
Speaker 5: of fun.

746
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Speaker 1: Did you stay in the dorms then and back in

747
00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:41,960
Speaker 1: the dorms? No, but it was like eighteen year old roommates.

748
00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:44,640
Speaker 5: It was odd because like, yeah, you're like your partners

749
00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:48,160
Speaker 5: on projects with kids that are like eighteen nineteen years old,

750
00:33:48,160 --> 00:33:50,160
Speaker 5: you know, like they know who you are and you

751
00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:51,720
Speaker 5: have to be like just be a student with them.

752
00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:53,959
Speaker 2: So it was kind of it was fun. It certainly

753
00:33:54,040 --> 00:33:54,480
Speaker 2: was fun.

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Speaker 1: Oh, the women are underway semi final, US and Sweden

755
00:33:58,520 --> 00:33:59,280
Speaker 1: in Milan.

756
00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:00,440
Speaker 2: Cordless.

757
00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:03,800
Speaker 1: Five minutes into the game, there's a second period team.

758
00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:05,960
Speaker 1: They'll put five on him in the second, put Sweden

759
00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:09,080
Speaker 1: to bed, and and they'll be onto the gold medal game.

760
00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:12,560
Speaker 1: Back to the Minnesota Wild. I was mentioning Tage Thompson,

761
00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:15,080
Speaker 1: for instance, and I'm just curious how much Bill Garin

762
00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:18,440
Speaker 1: has enjoyed not just you know, putting the best roster

763
00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:21,200
Speaker 1: on ice to to compete for a gold in the Olympics,

764
00:34:21,520 --> 00:34:23,640
Speaker 1: but how much he's enjoyed kind of hanging out with

765
00:34:23,640 --> 00:34:26,800
Speaker 1: with some of the league's best as the trade deadline approaches.

766
00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:29,920
Speaker 2: Get Yeah, there's a scouting element to this trip.

767
00:34:29,719 --> 00:34:33,920
Speaker 5: Too, exactly gets a pretty good opportunity to scout. And

768
00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:37,200
Speaker 5: you know what else, it feels like it's it's I

769
00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:41,719
Speaker 5: don't know, tampering or it almost seems legal that he

770
00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:43,799
Speaker 5: is the ability to just talk to players, and then

771
00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:45,640
Speaker 5: he's not fair, right, right, And then there are other

772
00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:48,840
Speaker 5: gms there. So, for example, I think Drury the Rangers

773
00:34:48,840 --> 00:34:53,000
Speaker 5: GM because rumors are rampant that Vinnie Trochak is on

774
00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:57,640
Speaker 5: their radar and Chris Drury's there with them nightly fine

775
00:34:57,719 --> 00:35:01,160
Speaker 5: dining with Italian wine and pasta in Milan or wherever

776
00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:04,960
Speaker 5: you know, on Gootina and yeah, and they're working out deals.

777
00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:08,520
Speaker 5: It doesn't seem like it should be fair or illegal,

778
00:35:08,600 --> 00:35:11,640
Speaker 5: but you know that it's happening, and that's where it's exciting.

779
00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:13,480
Speaker 5: As a wild fan. You're sitting here biting your nails.

780
00:35:13,520 --> 00:35:15,839
Speaker 5: You're like, hey, I know stuff is going on over

781
00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:18,719
Speaker 5: there right now and conversations are being had. Can we

782
00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:22,080
Speaker 5: just get something, you know, something concrete being reported.

783
00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:25,480
Speaker 1: The Americans are up on nothing, ladies and gentlemen. I

784
00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:28,560
Speaker 1: believe it's Barns on the goal. Let's see here, was

785
00:35:28,600 --> 00:35:31,399
Speaker 1: that a tip? Didn't seem like there was any contact there.

786
00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:34,759
Speaker 1: Little you get in front of good things happen when

787
00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:36,120
Speaker 1: you make it messy in front of the net.

788
00:35:36,200 --> 00:35:40,879
Speaker 5: Right, yeah, yeah, no, good shot screen high screen two

789
00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:44,239
Speaker 5: which moving through Kelly Panic gets an assist on that

790
00:35:44,280 --> 00:35:44,719
Speaker 5: one too.

791
00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:47,440
Speaker 2: She's a she's a goat, USA Hockey goat. So thank

792
00:35:47,480 --> 00:35:50,759
Speaker 2: goodness you're here to provide this analysis. I was not

793
00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:51,440
Speaker 2: on it.

794
00:35:52,520 --> 00:35:54,879
Speaker 1: But but with the with the trade deadline next month,

795
00:35:54,880 --> 00:35:57,440
Speaker 1: there is this feeling you know you mentioned in a

796
00:35:57,520 --> 00:36:01,719
Speaker 1: vacuum you you hit on brock Faber, specially in October,

797
00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:03,080
Speaker 1: and just a tough stretch.

798
00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:06,000
Speaker 2: It was a tough stretch for the entire operation to

799
00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:06,520
Speaker 2: begin the.

800
00:36:06,480 --> 00:36:08,960
Speaker 1: Season, and then they kind of find their way in

801
00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:13,000
Speaker 1: November and then boom when hughes right and then that

802
00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:15,960
Speaker 1: provided this massive push team can't lose for most of

803
00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:18,600
Speaker 1: the month of December and up and down. But now

804
00:36:18,600 --> 00:36:20,280
Speaker 1: they've found it again into the break.

805
00:36:21,080 --> 00:36:22,319
Speaker 2: Is this truly that?

806
00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:25,360
Speaker 1: The feeling the conversation is just like, this is the piece.

807
00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:29,319
Speaker 1: Whatever move that Bill Garrion makes between now and the

808
00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:31,520
Speaker 1: trade deadline, if he's able to find his way to

809
00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:34,120
Speaker 1: something nice, that this is the piece Ryan.

810
00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:37,319
Speaker 2: Yeah. And and I have a hard time looking at

811
00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:40,800
Speaker 2: it like that. See, I agree wholeheartedly with you.

812
00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:44,239
Speaker 5: So a lot of the rumors put somebody in and

813
00:36:44,280 --> 00:36:47,640
Speaker 5: like a Ryan Hartman out, you know, And I think

814
00:36:47,719 --> 00:36:50,200
Speaker 5: Ryan Hartman's a very important part of the team. I

815
00:36:50,239 --> 00:36:52,200
Speaker 5: think he's like the Matt Dumbo of a couple of

816
00:36:52,239 --> 00:36:54,719
Speaker 5: years ago, where like behind the scenes kind of a

817
00:36:54,760 --> 00:36:55,520
Speaker 5: good vibe guy.

818
00:36:55,719 --> 00:36:58,239
Speaker 1: By the way, he's also and you know, people have

819
00:36:58,440 --> 00:37:01,400
Speaker 1: good and bad opinions on Hartman penalties at times and

820
00:37:01,480 --> 00:37:02,840
Speaker 1: just kind of you can get well heat it on

821
00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:05,880
Speaker 1: the ice, et cetera. Who's been more consistent, and I

822
00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:08,399
Speaker 1: know he's not leading the team with fifty goals every year.

823
00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:11,400
Speaker 1: Who's been more consistent in the playoffs than Ryan Hartman? Like,

824
00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:15,080
Speaker 1: I think Hartman's been traditionally consistently very good in the

825
00:37:15,080 --> 00:37:16,160
Speaker 1: playoffs for the while.

826
00:37:16,120 --> 00:37:20,400
Speaker 5: His game elevates when playoff hockey begins and to me,

827
00:37:20,480 --> 00:37:22,719
Speaker 5: there's no doubt about that. It passes the eye test.

828
00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:25,720
Speaker 5: The statistics show the same, Like he's a gamer, wants

829
00:37:25,719 --> 00:37:28,200
Speaker 5: to win. That's why it's like a little nerve wracking,

830
00:37:28,680 --> 00:37:30,319
Speaker 5: you know, getting rid of a guy like that.

831
00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:31,960
Speaker 2: But let's say they don't get rid of him.

832
00:37:32,440 --> 00:37:35,000
Speaker 5: I still think that you have to be cognizant of

833
00:37:35,040 --> 00:37:39,080
Speaker 5: the fact that like Ryan Hartman's valued amongst his teammates

834
00:37:39,080 --> 00:37:41,160
Speaker 5: and what he does is valuable. So I think that

835
00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:43,719
Speaker 5: if you bring somebody in to take that, because we

836
00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:47,040
Speaker 5: also hear that it's you know, they want a number

837
00:37:47,080 --> 00:37:50,240
Speaker 5: one centerment or a top tier centerment because Eric Sanak

838
00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:52,359
Speaker 5: is going to be one or two, and they need

839
00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:55,000
Speaker 5: somebody else to maybe fill that void to play with carill.

840
00:37:55,360 --> 00:37:56,960
Speaker 5: I think if they're going to get a name, it

841
00:37:57,000 --> 00:38:00,759
Speaker 5: has to be somebody where a Ryan Hartman isn't the

842
00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:03,120
Speaker 5: guy that leaves yeah, which I think would be need

843
00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:05,920
Speaker 5: him yeah, because that's the ideal situation for me, is

844
00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:09,680
Speaker 5: retaining him somehow, And but it has to be somebody

845
00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:12,439
Speaker 5: that it's comfortable where it's like a no brainer, like Okay, yeah,

846
00:38:12,480 --> 00:38:16,040
Speaker 5: he deserves this other individual deserves the opportunity to be

847
00:38:16,360 --> 00:38:19,279
Speaker 5: one C two C for a while. I'll play my role,

848
00:38:19,280 --> 00:38:21,160
Speaker 5: continue to try to earn my spot to get that back,

849
00:38:21,200 --> 00:38:24,439
Speaker 5: because Bill Gerrin has always said, hey, it doesn't matter.

850
00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:26,520
Speaker 5: You earn your opportunity, you earn your minutes here, Like,

851
00:38:26,560 --> 00:38:28,560
Speaker 5: if you want Wayne Gretzky's job, go ahead, I'll give

852
00:38:28,560 --> 00:38:30,160
Speaker 5: it to you. Just got to take it from him, right,

853
00:38:30,239 --> 00:38:33,520
Speaker 5: And so if that's going to ring true, it has

854
00:38:33,600 --> 00:38:37,680
Speaker 5: to be somebody that's clear cut better than a Ryan Hartman.

855
00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:39,000
Speaker 2: And and what is that? Now?

856
00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:41,000
Speaker 5: Are those guys possible to get? In his Vini tro

857
00:38:41,160 --> 00:38:43,520
Speaker 5: checked that he might be in the face off circle

858
00:38:43,560 --> 00:38:46,759
Speaker 5: in other small areas of the of the.

859
00:38:46,560 --> 00:38:47,919
Speaker 2: Game or of the rink too.

860
00:38:48,239 --> 00:38:51,879
Speaker 5: But then you start to have to analyze it like, well, okay, well,

861
00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:55,240
Speaker 5: how much more important is a couple extra face off wins?

862
00:38:55,480 --> 00:38:55,799
Speaker 3: Is it?

863
00:38:56,120 --> 00:38:58,680
Speaker 5: Jasper Vaal said in his future is it a first

864
00:38:58,800 --> 00:38:59,319
Speaker 5: round pick?

865
00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:00,440
Speaker 2: Is it? You know?

866
00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:00,600
Speaker 3: Like?

867
00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:03,560
Speaker 2: Is that it? And the answer is yes, if you

868
00:39:03,760 --> 00:39:04,600
Speaker 2: believe that.

869
00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:07,080
Speaker 5: A couple more face offs and three more points are

870
00:39:07,120 --> 00:39:09,839
Speaker 5: going to help you win the Stanley Cup, right, And

871
00:39:10,160 --> 00:39:13,319
Speaker 5: that's I think that's where that conversation comes down to,

872
00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:16,880
Speaker 5: is how much more valuable is that individual than the

873
00:39:16,880 --> 00:39:19,160
Speaker 5: one that they're replacing compared to the assets that you

874
00:39:19,200 --> 00:39:21,759
Speaker 5: have to give up because and sorry this is a

875
00:39:21,800 --> 00:39:23,840
Speaker 5: long winded answer, No, this is good. Is the wild's

876
00:39:23,840 --> 00:39:28,400
Speaker 5: winning window one year or is the winning window five years?

877
00:39:28,440 --> 00:39:30,759
Speaker 5: You start to give up a bunch of assets right now,

878
00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:33,160
Speaker 5: It's like what assets do you have when you have

879
00:39:33,239 --> 00:39:35,879
Speaker 5: a need next year based on injury or the year after.

880
00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:38,880
Speaker 5: It's like, and I get it, like go all in,

881
00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:41,080
Speaker 5: figure this other stuff out later. And maybe that's Bill

882
00:39:41,080 --> 00:39:44,200
Speaker 5: Garren's plan, but I think you do have to have

883
00:39:44,520 --> 00:39:46,680
Speaker 5: at least a thought or two on the future and

884
00:39:46,719 --> 00:39:47,960
Speaker 5: the assets that you're keeping.

885
00:39:48,040 --> 00:39:50,440
Speaker 2: Well, I think you're so you're dead on in all

886
00:39:50,480 --> 00:39:50,759
Speaker 2: of that.

887
00:39:50,840 --> 00:39:53,200
Speaker 1: And I think the way that you put it in

888
00:39:53,320 --> 00:39:55,600
Speaker 1: terms of you have to determine that what you receive

889
00:39:56,200 --> 00:39:59,600
Speaker 1: the value of that can not only outweigh what you're

890
00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:03,239
Speaker 1: placing or what's leaving, but that is also going to

891
00:40:03,280 --> 00:40:06,040
Speaker 1: be what elevates you in a certain direction, which would

892
00:40:06,040 --> 00:40:10,400
Speaker 1: be towards the cup. Because earlier on I think that

893
00:40:11,640 --> 00:40:14,680
Speaker 1: I think that the conversation around Volstad again it's a

894
00:40:14,719 --> 00:40:16,680
Speaker 1: little bit of where we just need that one piece

895
00:40:16,719 --> 00:40:18,520
Speaker 1: and we're going to go all in. I heard wall

896
00:40:18,520 --> 00:40:20,719
Speaker 1: of Saint Paul. We just finally start to love the guy,

897
00:40:20,760 --> 00:40:22,600
Speaker 1: and now we want to trade him away. It's insane.

898
00:40:23,200 --> 00:40:26,279
Speaker 1: But in the end, whatever we do, we still have

899
00:40:26,320 --> 00:40:28,680
Speaker 1: the abs. We still have the abs in our division.

900
00:40:28,719 --> 00:40:32,319
Speaker 1: We still I mean, our first playoff series appears to

901
00:40:32,360 --> 00:40:35,040
Speaker 1: be and it looks more certain every day we're going

902
00:40:35,120 --> 00:40:38,000
Speaker 1: to be either in Dallas or they're coming here. I mean,

903
00:40:38,080 --> 00:40:39,920
Speaker 1: you have to beat two of the best teams in

904
00:40:39,960 --> 00:40:43,400
Speaker 1: the NHL just to get to a conference title series,

905
00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:46,240
Speaker 1: and so you know that window.

906
00:40:46,360 --> 00:40:47,760
Speaker 2: You want that window.

907
00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:51,239
Speaker 1: To be perpetual, and that seems impossible in some regards,

908
00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:54,160
Speaker 1: but more than just this year, I think Bill garn

909
00:40:54,239 --> 00:40:55,200
Speaker 1: certainly has to weigh that.

910
00:40:55,320 --> 00:40:57,160
Speaker 5: And that's where now you start to look at of

911
00:40:57,160 --> 00:41:00,319
Speaker 5: any trow check and it does become compelling because there's

912
00:41:00,320 --> 00:41:02,080
Speaker 5: some term. If you get a guy with term on

913
00:41:02,120 --> 00:41:04,480
Speaker 5: his deal, it's not just su pure rental. Now you

914
00:41:04,480 --> 00:41:07,560
Speaker 5: start to feel better about that trade. But again for me,

915
00:41:08,080 --> 00:41:12,239
Speaker 5: it's it's what you're getting in value in return on

916
00:41:12,320 --> 00:41:15,800
Speaker 5: the trade is the margin. So what the player brings

917
00:41:15,840 --> 00:41:19,000
Speaker 5: in that the player that would go out doesn't have, right,

918
00:41:19,040 --> 00:41:21,760
Speaker 5: so you're paying for margin. How much would that margin

919
00:41:21,800 --> 00:41:25,560
Speaker 5: get you. That's the biggest question for me. But but

920
00:41:26,040 --> 00:41:28,680
Speaker 5: I look at Bill Garrant too, and I'm not taking

921
00:41:28,800 --> 00:41:30,080
Speaker 5: anything away from Jasper.

922
00:41:30,160 --> 00:41:31,000
Speaker 2: Vaal said right here.

923
00:41:31,040 --> 00:41:33,920
Speaker 5: I think he's played great, he's shown confidence mentally, his

924
00:41:33,960 --> 00:41:37,280
Speaker 5: game has been really good. But Bill Garran has also

925
00:41:37,520 --> 00:41:40,799
Speaker 5: I think learned this over time that his crease is

926
00:41:40,880 --> 00:41:44,759
Speaker 5: one that goaltenders do better in than historically they have

927
00:41:44,880 --> 00:41:45,439
Speaker 5: anywhere else.

928
00:41:45,440 --> 00:41:47,279
Speaker 2: Like you look, Cam Talbot came to.

929
00:41:47,200 --> 00:41:50,719
Speaker 5: Town, they move him out for gust Of sind Gustson

930
00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:53,080
Speaker 5: comes in and all of a sudden, he's an everyday

931
00:41:53,200 --> 00:41:55,719
Speaker 5: NHL starter, right And there have been a lot of

932
00:41:55,760 --> 00:41:58,280
Speaker 5: goaltenders that have come to Minnesota because of a style

933
00:41:58,320 --> 00:42:01,560
Speaker 5: of play, because of coaching, that can perform. So there

934
00:42:01,680 --> 00:42:04,640
Speaker 5: is the possibility that Minnesota thinks, like, hey, one we

935
00:42:04,719 --> 00:42:08,560
Speaker 5: have Philip Gustus and two Jasper Valstaid is good, but

936
00:42:08,800 --> 00:42:11,719
Speaker 5: he might not be the player or as good as

937
00:42:11,800 --> 00:42:14,200
Speaker 5: the rest of the league values him, because we know

938
00:42:14,320 --> 00:42:16,640
Speaker 5: our system is good, we know what we give up,

939
00:42:16,640 --> 00:42:18,520
Speaker 5: what we don't give up. And again I'm not trying

940
00:42:18,560 --> 00:42:21,080
Speaker 5: to take anything away from him, but value might be

941
00:42:21,280 --> 00:42:23,040
Speaker 5: highest for Valstad right now.

942
00:42:23,239 --> 00:42:25,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, No, I get to be honest, I never really

943
00:42:25,760 --> 00:42:30,600
Speaker 1: thought about the idea that the system can play into

944
00:42:30,760 --> 00:42:33,600
Speaker 1: how we perceive a netmind or I get the inner workings.

945
00:42:33,600 --> 00:42:35,160
Speaker 1: Of course, the blue liners in front of them, they

946
00:42:35,200 --> 00:42:38,480
Speaker 1: got to hint, you know, that symbiotic connection that you

947
00:42:38,520 --> 00:42:40,359
Speaker 1: have to have there. But I didn't really think about

948
00:42:40,440 --> 00:42:43,160
Speaker 1: just at a base level Minnesota, does I mean it's

949
00:42:43,480 --> 00:42:46,360
Speaker 1: when if we had just dreadful goaltending.

950
00:42:46,440 --> 00:42:47,600
Speaker 2: No, not really.

951
00:42:47,640 --> 00:42:52,160
Speaker 5: Remember goalies that come here have their best years here, right,

952
00:42:52,200 --> 00:42:52,680
Speaker 5: so there's some.

953
00:42:52,800 --> 00:42:55,360
Speaker 1: Dube nic rolling in and just being special. Remember that

954
00:42:55,480 --> 00:42:57,359
Speaker 1: run he went on in the spring. I think when

955
00:42:57,360 --> 00:42:59,960
Speaker 1: he came here unbelievable, had a nice career here.

956
00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:00,120
Speaker 3: Ye.

957
00:43:00,120 --> 00:43:03,520
Speaker 5: Overall, yeah, and in general just over time, like goaltenders

958
00:43:03,560 --> 00:43:07,200
Speaker 5: have played well in Minnesota and Minnesota's and Bill Garran

959
00:43:07,239 --> 00:43:10,400
Speaker 5: has tried to shake the like the image of being

960
00:43:10,480 --> 00:43:14,120
Speaker 5: the new Jersey Devils of the early two thousands, trap

961
00:43:14,160 --> 00:43:17,000
Speaker 5: we're gonna win a game three, two two one, and that's.

962
00:43:16,880 --> 00:43:17,600
Speaker 2: The way we play.

963
00:43:17,960 --> 00:43:21,160
Speaker 5: But the Wild have always been just defensively responsible, and

964
00:43:21,960 --> 00:43:25,360
Speaker 5: I think that that's something that probably the coaching staff

965
00:43:25,360 --> 00:43:27,160
Speaker 5: and management have embraced now. Like the core of this

966
00:43:27,200 --> 00:43:30,400
Speaker 5: group was Jared Spurge and Jonas Brodein, Ryan Soudor for

967
00:43:30,440 --> 00:43:32,239
Speaker 5: a very long time and.

968
00:43:32,960 --> 00:43:35,640
Speaker 2: With it they've had great success. Those pieces are still here.

969
00:43:35,680 --> 00:43:38,759
Speaker 5: They still take great pride, like Brodean could be a

970
00:43:38,840 --> 00:43:41,600
Speaker 5: more offensive defense and he just takes so much pride

971
00:43:41,640 --> 00:43:44,120
Speaker 5: in the other side of the ice, right, So there's

972
00:43:44,200 --> 00:43:47,239
Speaker 5: just an element to defending that that group just at

973
00:43:47,280 --> 00:43:50,239
Speaker 5: their core loves and I think it helps out the goaltending.

974
00:43:50,760 --> 00:43:52,560
Speaker 2: Well, I guess we gotta trade. We can trade Vollstef.

975
00:43:52,920 --> 00:43:56,799
Speaker 5: Yeah, but it's it's also not that easy, like you

976
00:43:56,800 --> 00:44:00,640
Speaker 5: look at any other goaltender, like it's hard, and goaltending

977
00:44:00,680 --> 00:44:04,800
Speaker 5: seems to be maybe more than like on a career trajectory.

978
00:44:04,960 --> 00:44:08,520
Speaker 5: A season, it's like they get momentum within a season

979
00:44:08,560 --> 00:44:10,400
Speaker 5: and then they ride that. Like you can look at

980
00:44:10,400 --> 00:44:14,160
Speaker 5: a Jordan Binnington, He'll have twenty nineteen, unbelievable year, twenty

981
00:44:14,200 --> 00:44:17,920
Speaker 5: twenty terrible year, twenty twenty one, good year, twenty twenty two,

982
00:44:18,080 --> 00:44:21,759
Speaker 5: average year, twenty twenty three, phenomenal year, like it depends

983
00:44:21,840 --> 00:44:25,200
Speaker 5: on the year for the goaltenders. So it's I don't

984
00:44:25,200 --> 00:44:27,560
Speaker 5: think you can look at that position and say this

985
00:44:27,680 --> 00:44:33,279
Speaker 5: guy is like the next Vassilevski or Sorokian and just

986
00:44:33,400 --> 00:44:35,520
Speaker 5: know for sure there's going to be ebbs and flows

987
00:44:35,520 --> 00:44:36,880
Speaker 5: in the development of a goaltender.

988
00:44:37,320 --> 00:44:37,560
Speaker 2: Dude.

989
00:44:37,560 --> 00:44:39,520
Speaker 1: That was awesome, man, I really appreciate you coming in

990
00:44:39,560 --> 00:44:41,000
Speaker 1: and hanging out in the studio this morning.

991
00:44:41,080 --> 00:44:43,160
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's good. It's good, great to be here again.

992
00:44:43,239 --> 00:44:45,640
Speaker 5: Good day, great energy out there with the weather and

993
00:44:45,640 --> 00:44:47,200
Speaker 5: everything else. We got the Olympics going on.

994
00:44:47,280 --> 00:44:49,359
Speaker 2: How do you think I should handle this? Because I didn't.

995
00:44:49,400 --> 00:44:51,799
Speaker 1: I just thought, Hey, the game's going on during the show,

996
00:44:51,880 --> 00:44:54,759
Speaker 1: so I got thanks for the spoiler alert Nordo on

997
00:44:55,400 --> 00:44:58,439
Speaker 1: the goal for US and Sweden. But it's a live

998
00:44:58,440 --> 00:44:59,680
Speaker 1: event that's taking place.

999
00:45:00,239 --> 00:45:03,200
Speaker 5: Some people are I think we're in a world where

1000
00:45:03,520 --> 00:45:06,719
Speaker 5: you can't spoil anything anymore. Like that goal was probably

1001
00:45:06,800 --> 00:45:09,680
Speaker 5: tweeted out before we saw it here xed out however

1002
00:45:09,719 --> 00:45:12,319
Speaker 5: you want to say it, Yeah, before we announced it,

1003
00:45:12,640 --> 00:45:15,279
Speaker 5: Like it probably came up on his notifications. If he's

1004
00:45:15,320 --> 00:45:18,879
Speaker 5: got the Olympics app before we were even aware of it.

1005
00:45:18,920 --> 00:45:21,480
Speaker 2: I should be able just to and just to you listeners.

1006
00:45:21,520 --> 00:45:23,560
Speaker 1: I have the game on, I'm watching it, and I'm

1007
00:45:23,560 --> 00:45:26,719
Speaker 1: excited for the women's team. If there's another goal, I

1008
00:45:26,719 --> 00:45:28,279
Speaker 1: think I'm going to celebrate it, and I'm going to

1009
00:45:28,400 --> 00:45:32,000
Speaker 1: let you know so. So now we've set that precedent,

1010
00:45:32,840 --> 00:45:36,880
Speaker 1: I am not withholding quote unquote spoilers from this semi

1011
00:45:36,880 --> 00:45:38,000
Speaker 1: final game in Italy.

1012
00:45:38,080 --> 00:45:39,800
Speaker 5: And with that, it turns out the women's team is

1013
00:45:39,800 --> 00:45:41,719
Speaker 5: a first period of team because shots are nine zero.

1014
00:45:41,840 --> 00:45:44,040
Speaker 2: Oh, Sweden just got their first show.

1015
00:45:44,040 --> 00:45:46,960
Speaker 1: First shot of the game with eight forty two left

1016
00:45:47,000 --> 00:45:50,000
Speaker 1: in the first period. Semi final hockey in the women's

1017
00:45:50,000 --> 00:45:53,880
Speaker 1: tournament Gold game would be around the corner for the victor.

1018
00:45:54,480 --> 00:45:57,200
Speaker 1: Thank you man, Thanks again, looking forward to seeing you

1019
00:45:57,239 --> 00:45:57,839
Speaker 1: back on TV.

1020
00:45:57,960 --> 00:45:59,360
Speaker 2: At some point you get.

1021
00:45:59,200 --> 00:46:00,759
Speaker 1: To chill for another week and a half before they

1022
00:46:00,800 --> 00:46:01,760
Speaker 1: go to go to the apps.

1023
00:46:02,040 --> 00:46:04,680
Speaker 5: After we learn about all these conversations that were had

1024
00:46:04,920 --> 00:46:07,400
Speaker 5: over I don't know what are Italian lines like barolo

1025
00:46:07,560 --> 00:46:09,239
Speaker 5: or something or prosecco?

1026
00:46:09,680 --> 00:46:12,720
Speaker 2: Yeah that too? Is that a thing? Some good pasta?

1027
00:46:13,440 --> 00:46:13,640
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1028
00:46:13,719 --> 00:46:17,120
Speaker 5: Once we figure out what these conversations were, the trade

1029
00:46:17,120 --> 00:46:19,240
Speaker 5: freeze opens and things start to move, it'll be exciting.

1030
00:46:19,360 --> 00:46:23,160
Speaker 2: Absolutely. That's Ryan Carter in studio with me Nordo nine

1031
00:46:23,160 --> 00:46:23,520
Speaker 2: to noon.

1032
00:46:23,560 --> 00:46:26,520
Speaker 1: Now we're gonna switch gears chat with Alex Lewis, who

1033
00:46:26,520 --> 00:46:29,320
Speaker 1: covers the Minnesota Vikings in the NFL. For the Athletic,

1034
00:46:29,400 --> 00:46:32,080
Speaker 1: that's second hour ahead. You're listening to the fans