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Speaker 1: with a new Joe and a new toe with the
Speaker 1: helm Joe Flacco debuting with four or five days of prep.
Speaker 1: Bengals lose three in a row. Can they snap the
Speaker 1: streak and give the ball to a guy who has
Speaker 1: now played and beaten? By the way, if the Bengals
Speaker 1: can pull this miracle off, we'll have beaten the Green
Speaker 1: Bay Packers twice in a four week span. It's like
Speaker 1: almost like he's a quarterback of a NFC North team
Speaker 1: or something. It's like the quarterback of the Chicago Bears.
Speaker 1: Dan Horde, of course, voice of the Bengals, jumps on
Speaker 1: the show this morning every Friday morning to chop it up. Danny, welcome,
Speaker 1: How are.
Speaker 2: You, Sonny, I'm great.
Speaker 3: How are you doing well?
Speaker 1: I'm doing well. So he got Joe with a good toe.
Speaker 1: And when you heard the news, because we all heard
Speaker 1: the news as the voice of the Bengals, when you
Speaker 1: heard either the unconfirmed rumor or the announcement that Joe
Speaker 1: Flacco was signed He's coming to Cincinnati. What was your
Speaker 1: immediate gut reaction immediately when you heard that.
Speaker 2: I was stunned.
Speaker 4: I was stunned by the person, not the fact that
Speaker 4: they made a trade, because we have heard those rumors
Speaker 4: for a couple of weeks, and the names that had
Speaker 4: been bandied about most frequently were Russell Wilson and Jamis Winston.
Speaker 2: Neither one of those guys got me too excited.
Speaker 4: I was a little bit interested when I heard Andy
Speaker 4: Dalton might be a possibility that one obviously could have
Speaker 4: made some sense. But I did not expect Joe plackom.
Speaker 4: But they felt they had to do something, and I'm
Speaker 4: excited to see how it looks.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we shall see on Sunday. Now, I's only had
Speaker 1: what four or five days of work put in, but
Speaker 1: you know, his experienced quarterback. He's done this before, So
Speaker 1: you know, veteran quarterback coming in that doesn't concern me
Speaker 1: all that much. And maybe a basic game plan for
Speaker 1: him because he can't go a full playbook with Joe,
Speaker 1: Maybe that's maybe less is more here, huh.
Speaker 4: I think the fact that he's faced the Packers and
Speaker 4: faced them recently.
Speaker 2: Is really helpful. He knows what to expect from the
Speaker 2: Green Bay defense.
Speaker 4: Some of that off the plate in terms of trying
Speaker 4: to get up to speed quickly so he can really
Speaker 4: concentrate on the play calls and that kind of stuff
Speaker 4: with the Bengals, And yeah, I think you're right, they've
Speaker 4: got to cut down in the playbook a little bit.
Speaker 4: But the dude's been playing for eighteen years. He's stepped
Speaker 4: in under similar circumstances before. A couple of years ago
Speaker 4: with Cleveland, he did have more practices, but he had
Speaker 4: not been with the team in that year. He hadn't
Speaker 4: even been playing. So I think if anybody can do
Speaker 4: this in a short span of time, it's somebody who
Speaker 4: has two hundred regular season NFL starts under his belt
Speaker 4: and eighteen playoff games and a Super Bowl win.
Speaker 1: All right. So the concern then, of course the most obviously,
Speaker 1: And to me, there's a lot of nuances with the game.
Speaker 1: And I'm curious to hear your take on all that.
Speaker 1: To me, does this begin an end to a large
Speaker 1: degree with what happens with the offensive line? I mean, Bengals,
Speaker 1: A lot of what seventy five pressures, eleven sacks and
Speaker 1: five games. Their highest graded pass blocker, Dylan Fairchild, will
Speaker 1: be out. And we're not really good at at scheming
Speaker 1: for the run either, as they are on pass protection.
Speaker 1: So you've got Orlando Brown who's not playing the highest
Speaker 1: graded run blocker and not I think I think I
Speaker 1: saw someone Jamar Cha says a better blocking grade. Nonetheless,
Speaker 1: is that for you? Is that the concern is, like, hey,
Speaker 1: if the offensive line can at least be paying, we
Speaker 1: stapp fly. I didn't think it was as bad as
Speaker 1: advertising Detroit. There was some. It was just Browning couldn't
Speaker 1: find that anyone open. It was it was like a
Speaker 1: skulled dog or something. I don't know what. And Zach Taylor,
Speaker 1: I think admitted as such as like, it's more mental.
Speaker 1: He's just out of sorts. We've got to get somebody
Speaker 1: else in here. If they can do an adequate job
Speaker 1: in blocking, give it Joe Flacco time he can get
Speaker 1: the ball down field. And you've got Jamar and you've
Speaker 1: got t in maybe different game. Does it all come
Speaker 1: down to that?
Speaker 4: Well, offensive line is a major factor regardless of who's
Speaker 4: back there. And I do think the facts while we
Speaker 4: tend to assign them to the offensive line, it's a
Speaker 4: quarterback stat as well. Tom Brady was less mobile than
Speaker 4: Joe Flacco is and he did get sacked very often
Speaker 4: because he got rid of the ball. Joe Flacco is
Speaker 4: going to get rid of the ball. So a few
Speaker 4: weeks ago when Cleveland faced Green Bay, the Browns have
Speaker 4: had major issues on their offensive line as well this year,
Speaker 4: he only got sacked twice. Why because he got rid
Speaker 4: of the ball. So that's getting it out quickly, that's
Speaker 4: throwing it to your checkdown quickly. That's throwing it out
Speaker 4: of bounds from time to time to a boyd to sack. So, yes,
Speaker 4: the offensive line has to continue to get better, and
Speaker 4: I did think there was some improvement against Detroit last week.
Speaker 4: But I also think that the sacks at least will
Speaker 4: probably go down because Joe Flaco simply is not going
Speaker 4: to take them.
Speaker 1: At the same time, he was benched because of a
Speaker 1: lack of mobility behind a poor offensive line.
Speaker 2: Arguably really not true.
Speaker 4: No, he was benched because the Cleveland Browns are rebuilding
Speaker 4: and they drafted two quarterbacks this year and they wanted
Speaker 4: to start playing one of the rookies. So I'm not
Speaker 4: saying that Joe is playing all that effectively. Had they
Speaker 4: had a great record in Cleveland, he probably would have
Speaker 4: had a few more starts. But it wasn't because of
Speaker 4: his mobility. It's because the Cleveland Browns are in total
Speaker 4: rebuild mode and they've got Dylan Gabriel and they want
Speaker 4: to see what they've got.
Speaker 1: And you think it's Flaco would still be the quarterback
Speaker 1: if the Bengals hadn't come call him. I mean, he
Speaker 1: got the reason they put Dylan Gabriel edge. Yeah, what
Speaker 1: I'm saying is they put Dylan. They put Dylan Gabriel
Speaker 1: in for real because it was it Dylan Gabriel's time,
Speaker 1: or just Flacco was inefficient.
Speaker 2: Well, a little bit of both.
Speaker 4: But you began floony by saying he was benched because
Speaker 4: of his mobility.
Speaker 2: That's not the case.
Speaker 4: He was a combination of He wasn't playing very well
Speaker 4: and they wanted to go with their rookie. So it
Speaker 4: wasn't mobility.
Speaker 1: Okay, it was fair.
Speaker 4: Fact that they're turning to their rookie, Dylan Gabriel.
Speaker 1: Flacco's all right, So we talked about the line issues
Speaker 1: with them. The concern, obviously, is going to be Micah
Speaker 1: Parsons and Rashan Gary. That is arguably that one of
Speaker 1: the toughest to pass rushers, if not the best in
Speaker 1: the NFL. They're going to come fast, They're going to
Speaker 1: come furious. I'm sure they're champion at the bit to
Speaker 1: come up the Bengals. How do you scheme against those two?
Speaker 4: Well, you know you're going to have to give extra
Speaker 4: protection on Micah Parsons side, which is why Gary was
Speaker 4: the happiest person in the world when Cleveland swung that trade.
Speaker 4: You know, teams used to devote extra attention to blocking him.
Speaker 4: Now it has to be devoted toward, you know, protecting
Speaker 4: a quarterback against Michael Parsons. That allows for Shawn Gary
Speaker 4: to eat. So it's a major challenge. The Bengals faced
Speaker 4: Michael Parsons last year when he was with Dallas. Didn't
Speaker 4: have a sack, didn't have a tackle. Bengals won the
Speaker 4: game largely matched up in that game against the marius men,
Speaker 4: So a lot of this is going to fall on
Speaker 4: a marius Now. Looking at the Packers so far this year,
Speaker 4: they've been moving Michaeh Parsons around quite a bit, so
Speaker 4: I'm sure that there will be snaps where it's up
Speaker 4: to Orlando Brown Junior to try to keep them away
Speaker 4: from Joe Flacco. It's a major concern, There's no doubt
Speaker 4: about that. That's why a lot of people think the
Speaker 4: Green Bay is one of, you know, the five or
Speaker 4: six top candidates to win the Super Bowl.
Speaker 1: Defense, of course, has struggled in a few areas, a
Speaker 1: number of areas up against the Packers. How does that
Speaker 1: match up play out your mind?
Speaker 4: I think they've got to stop the run first and foremost.
Speaker 4: You know, the Packers traded last year for Josh Jacobs
Speaker 4: and he had an awesome first year in a Green
Speaker 4: Bay uniform. That's where their offense begins. Jordan loves a
Speaker 4: really good quarterback as well, but to me, it begins
Speaker 4: with Jacobs. He's a beast, two hundred and twenty three
Speaker 4: pound guy, doesn't go down easily. The Bengals run defense
Speaker 4: was pretty good last week, you know, considering how good
Speaker 4: the Lions are in the running game. They forced five punts.
Speaker 4: No team has forced Detroit to punt more this year.
Speaker 4: They got one takeaway. They need some help from their offense.
Speaker 4: The offense has to stop giving the opponent short fields.
Speaker 4: The offense has to stop having so many three and outs.
Speaker 4: That keeps the defense out there forever. I think if
Speaker 4: the offense were more efficient, we'd probably be saying, huh,
Speaker 4: the defense is starting to look a little bit better.
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, we always talk about it's the balance. It's
Speaker 1: complimentary football. You can only overcome so much with a
Speaker 1: good offense and a defense, and we saw that narrow.
Speaker 1: Let's face it, Joe Burrow covered up a lot of
Speaker 1: mistakes with this team, and as a hell of a
Speaker 1: gap between Joe Burrow and Browning and Flacco for that matter,
Speaker 1: at least this version of the forty year old Joe
Speaker 1: Flacco at this point too. You keep him upright and
Speaker 1: allow him to operate and give him time. I like
Speaker 1: our chances with t Higgins and Jamar Chase out there.
Speaker 1: I don't suspect this is going to be a shootout,
Speaker 1: but at the same time, if you make it competitive,
Speaker 1: I think that buys you a little bit more time
Speaker 1: for Zach Tanner and company to figure things out.
Speaker 4: I think that's true, and I think I'm also looking
Speaker 4: at the next four weeks. So if Flacco looks decent
Speaker 4: this week and even if the Bengals lose to Green Bay,
Speaker 4: which is obviously a strong possibility, have a two touchdown underdog.
Speaker 4: After that, you've got three straight home games Pittsburgh on
Speaker 4: a Thursday night. Steelers have looked good so far, but
Speaker 4: Thursday night home games are a big advantage. Then you've
Speaker 4: got the Jets. Only when this team left, then you've
Speaker 4: got the Bears. You know, the Bears have been better,
Speaker 4: but I don't think anybody thinks they're great yet. So
Speaker 4: if you lose this week and managed to win three
Speaker 4: straight home games against the teams I just mentioned, you're
Speaker 4: five and four, You've got Blacko, You're feeling better about
Speaker 4: your offense. You know, you're right back in the thick
Speaker 4: of things in an AFC in general and an AFC
Speaker 4: North in particular that seems really unsettled right now. So
Speaker 4: I'm kind of looking at this as a four week
Speaker 4: deal and see if Flaco can stabilize things during this stretch.
Speaker 1: Yeah, nine wins feels like that right around that number,
Speaker 1: doesn't it like you could you could.
Speaker 4: Be Yeah, I at this point, I'm really thinking I'd
Speaker 4: be surprised if anybody in the division wins. Can now,
Speaker 4: maybe the Steelers are going to prove us wrong. They
Speaker 4: are three and one, They've got Aaron Rodgers. Maybe they're
Speaker 4: going to turn out to be better than we all thought.
Speaker 4: I don't know, but I'm not sold yet. And obviously
Speaker 4: Baltimore at one in four with a ton of injuries
Speaker 4: including Lamar, who knows how many games they're ultimately going
Speaker 4: to win. I don't think anybody is too concerned about Cleveland,
Speaker 4: So yeah, I'm with you. I think nine wins, who knows,
Speaker 4: maybe eight might do it. There have been years where,
Speaker 4: you know, Division champions have been a game under five hundred.
Speaker 4: That would not be the first time that ever happened.
Speaker 1: Now, who's who the hell saw the Ravens collapse happen,
Speaker 1: even outside of the injury to QB one. I mean,
Speaker 1: that wasn't like they were playing great all that great football.
Speaker 1: That's that's probably the biggest surprise in the AFC is
Speaker 1: just how bad Baltimore went.
Speaker 4: Baltimore this year is Cincinnati early last year. I think
Speaker 4: they've given up thirty eight or more points in every
Speaker 4: game but one. So, you know, the Lamar injuries last
Speaker 4: week was obviously a huge factor, but their defense has
Speaker 4: just been atrocious and nobody saw that coming to this extent.
Speaker 1: Now the whole league seems up for grabs with the
Speaker 1: Eagles getting beat by the Giants. I mean, the Giants
Speaker 1: look like a freaking deep playoff team today. You know,
Speaker 1: now tomorrow, next week maybe a different story. But the
Speaker 1: entire league, that's the greatness of it, though, as you know,
Speaker 1: is a parody, right is You know, one team is
Speaker 1: ranked number one one week and then they're down to
Speaker 1: five after a close loss. But that's how close is
Speaker 1: in the NFL. You've really got a chance here and
Speaker 1: you can't write the Bengals off yet. We'll see what
Speaker 1: Joe Flacco can do, and if you can get to
Speaker 1: nine wins, you're right there, I think. And I don't
Speaker 1: think he's signed Joe Flacco unless you think that Joe
Speaker 1: Burrow is going to come back this season. I think,
Speaker 1: do you think that's It's like, well, we hope to
Speaker 1: get him back. It feels like when they made the move, like, yeah,
Speaker 1: we got a strong indication he'll be back in December.
Speaker 4: I don't know about that, but I do know that
Speaker 4: Joe Burrow is determined to be back. I don't think
Speaker 4: there's any real medical determination yet, but you're hopeful that
Speaker 4: he'll be back, and he's determined to be back. Joe
Speaker 4: Burrow is held on coming back and playing in December
Speaker 4: if it matters. So I do agree that the front
Speaker 4: office is trying to do everything they can to keep
Speaker 4: this team in contention in case he can come back,
Speaker 4: with the hope that he can can come back, knowing
Speaker 4: that he is determined to come back. So Windows, you know,
Speaker 4: you talked about the NFL in general, but really in
Speaker 4: the AFC in particular, with the Chiefs under five hundred,
Speaker 4: the Texans two time defending champ in their division under
Speaker 4: five hundred, Baltimore at one in four, you know, the
Speaker 4: Colts are four and one. Are we buying the Colts
Speaker 4: as the best team in the AFC?
Speaker 2: You know I'm not.
Speaker 4: I mean kudos too, and you know Danny Dimes for
Speaker 4: what they've done so far, but I still don't really
Speaker 4: think of Indianapolis as a Super Bowl contender. So the
Speaker 4: AFC is wide open. If he can just get into
Speaker 4: the playoffs right and Burrow does come back, you got
Speaker 4: a shot.
Speaker 1: Here's the thing. Keep forty year old Joe Flacco alive
Speaker 1: for six weeks, Roughly six weeks that's that's the key.
Speaker 2: And he has to play well.
Speaker 4: Of course, protecting him is going to be a key
Speaker 4: to him playing well and hopefully getting a little bit
Speaker 4: out of the running game as well. But if he
Speaker 4: plays well like he did two years ago with Cleveland
Speaker 4: when he came you know, off the couch and one
Speaker 4: Comeback Player of the Year award for a five week stretch,
Speaker 4: he threw for three hundred or more yards and four
Speaker 4: straight games, the only quarterback in Cleveland Browns history to
Speaker 4: ever do that after not being with the team basically
Speaker 4: all year. He started playing at the you know, the
Speaker 4: end of November. If he can do anything remotely close
Speaker 4: to that, the Bengals have a shot.
Speaker 1: Yeah. And I say that because you know, the the
Speaker 1: aforementioned leaders, the FC North, the Pittsburgh Steelers that look
Speaker 1: like the darling of the division right now, that could
Speaker 1: change tomorrow. You also have a forty year old quarterback
Speaker 1: there too, and we know that it's awfully tough playing
Speaker 1: this man's game as a young man. As an old
Speaker 1: man entirely different story, and certainly his career has been
Speaker 1: plagued by injuries. As you get older, that does happen,
Speaker 1: you hope for that against the division opponent. But you know,
Speaker 1: you look at it and go, it's not like that.
Speaker 1: They're They're doing a great job of protecting him in Pittsburgh.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's pretty amusing that with forty year old Joe Flacco,
Speaker 4: the Bengals don't have the oldest quarterback.
Speaker 1: In the Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 2: Rodgers is actually older than he is.
Speaker 1: How about this, It's like Joe comes back, something happens
Speaker 1: to Aaron Rodgers and Joe Flacco in December goes to
Speaker 1: the Steelers and now he's played for every team of
Speaker 1: the division.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but nobody saw the possibility, at least of Joe
Speaker 4: Flacco beating Green Bay twice in a three week span
Speaker 4: with two different teams. That's never happened in NFL history.
Speaker 4: Apparently Jack Kemp back in the day beat the same
Speaker 4: team starting for two different and teams during the course
Speaker 4: of the season.
Speaker 2: But it didn't happen in such a short span.
Speaker 1: That's incredible.
Speaker 4: It would be incredible if Placo and the Bengals pull
Speaker 4: it off.
Speaker 1: Well, it's going to give us a reason to listen,
Speaker 1: that's for sure. Before right, Darren Wright, I'm actually excited.
Speaker 1: I was like, God, what am I going to do
Speaker 1: on Sunday, and I was like, I got to get
Speaker 1: the popcorn and watch this game to see what happens
Speaker 1: with Joe Flacco. Real quick here, Dan, before you go
Speaker 1: before the Bengals game. Of course tomorrow, you're gonna call,
Speaker 1: hopefully the fifth straight win for the uc Bearcats. Got
Speaker 1: UCF and Town and talk about quarterback controversies.
Speaker 4: Yeah, not for controversy reasons, but for injury reasons. Yes,
Speaker 4: they've had three starting quarterbacks this year that have been
Speaker 4: injured at various points. The guy that started last week
Speaker 4: at his Arminius sling in the second half, they list
Speaker 4: and is questionable. I would be surprised if he plays.
Speaker 4: The person that finished the game for UCF last week,
Speaker 4: started their season opener, hurts back in that game on
Speaker 4: a targeting penalty, but he did come back and play
Speaker 4: last week. I think he's healthy. One of the three
Speaker 4: guys that has started appears to be healthy, So he'll
Speaker 4: be the guy that starts after that. I have no
Speaker 4: idea what they would do if you gets hurt.
Speaker 1: It was so fun watching last week's game and you
Speaker 1: see nothing. Is there anything cooler than the student section
Speaker 1: rushing the field after win there's nothing cooler in college sports.
Speaker 2: I'm a big fan of the field storming.
Speaker 4: You know, it causes your school to be fined, typically
Speaker 4: because leagues try to prevent that from happening for safety reasons,
Speaker 4: but schools typically happily pay that fine, thinking, you know,
Speaker 4: that means really good things for our team if our
Speaker 4: fans want to do that. So we'll cough up the
Speaker 4: dough and hope we have to do it again.
Speaker 1: Now, like Iowa stated, and fight in this one, because
Speaker 1: for a minute was like, man, they're going to blow
Speaker 1: these guys out, and they came back in thirty to thirty.
Speaker 1: The final you see rises number twenty six in the country.
Speaker 1: Should they have been higher?
Speaker 4: You know, honestly, I don't really care. I think if
Speaker 4: they win this week, they'll pop into the top twenty five.
Speaker 2: If they win their next two, they would definitely pop
Speaker 2: into the top twenty five.
Speaker 4: And next week's game is a road game against Oklahoma State,
Speaker 4: a team that's already fired its coach, So you know,
Speaker 4: there's a really good opportunity to win two more in
Speaker 4: a row with tomorrow's game being at home, and if
Speaker 4: that happens.
Speaker 2: They would definitely be a top twenty five team.
Speaker 1: Now, they are fun to watch. They're absolutely fun to watch.
Speaker 1: And you know, you talk about Brendon s Sooresby and
Speaker 1: how fun that is, but i mean, let's face that
Speaker 1: defense is getting after what back their quarterback. I think
Speaker 1: what three or four sacks in that game last Saturday,
Speaker 1: and Soresby's jersey's completely clean, and you give them time
Speaker 1: give that. It really is an exciting product. And I'm
Speaker 1: glad people are shown up at Nipper to watch the Bearcats.
Speaker 2: Me too.
Speaker 4: And I'm glad you mentioned the offensive line because we
Speaker 4: have been very critical of the Bengals offensive line in
Speaker 4: recent years, and deservedly though they have not performed as
Speaker 4: well as they've needed to perform. But you see, on
Speaker 4: the other hand, their offensive line has been amazing. They've
Speaker 4: given up one sack all year, tied for first in
Speaker 4: the country. And one of the teams that they're tied
Speaker 4: with his Navy, a team that never passes, so that
Speaker 4: shouldn't count. They're running backs, they're three or four yards
Speaker 4: downfield before they get touched, yeah, on many of their runs.
Speaker 4: So this offensive line has just been tremendous so far
Speaker 4: in this year.
Speaker 1: A lot of arrows directed rightly so at Sadderfield, and
Speaker 1: that looks he's got them playing at a top level
Speaker 1: right now. And it's fun to watch Dan hord with
Speaker 1: a call tomorrow from Nippert Stadium of the Bearcats. And
Speaker 1: then Sunday it's at Green Bay. Gets on the plane,
Speaker 1: goes to Green Bay, one of the coolest places to
Speaker 1: watch a football game in the country, and we'll have
Speaker 1: the call for a four to twenty five with he
Speaker 1: and a lap here on the home of the best
Speaker 1: Bengals coverage. Dan all the best, Buddy, Thanks again for jumping.
Speaker 4: I appreciate it, my pleasure, selone, thanks for having me on.
Speaker 1: Take care, sir. Let's get a news update in and
Speaker 1: one return on the show on seven hundred WLW. We
Speaker 1: got some movies and streaming to catch up on. We'll
Speaker 1: do that just ahead, including a John Candy bio pick
Speaker 1: or maybe it's a series. I'm not sure anyway, if
Speaker 1: you're a fan of the late comedian John Candy, just ahead,
Speaker 1: seven hundred. Why Mike and Morner, how are you, buddy doing?
Speaker 5: Rold good?
Speaker 2: How are you?
Speaker 1: I'm doing fine? Mike. Is Mike Debuski from ABC News
Speaker 1: in New York breaking down movies this week. John Candy
Speaker 1: as a documentary. I saw the tease for it on
Speaker 1: Amazon Prime, but I was really sure, I don't know
Speaker 1: what to make of this whole thing.
Speaker 5: Yeah, So this is a new documentary looking back on
Speaker 5: the life of the late comedian John Candy, a guy
Speaker 5: we probably all have some sort of relationship with, whether
Speaker 5: you know, I'm from Home Alone at the very end
Speaker 5: of that movie Planes, Trains and Automobiles, Stripes Flash.
Speaker 1: He was in a ton of movies.
Speaker 5: Stretching from the nineteen seventies all the way up to
Speaker 5: the nineteen nineties. He unfortunately passed away from a heart
Speaker 5: attack in nineteen ninety four. This new documentary all started
Speaker 5: because of Ryan Reynolds, if you can believe it, a
Speaker 5: fellow Canadian comedian who a few years ago put together
Speaker 5: sort of a highlight reel of John Candy's career, looking
Speaker 5: back on his life, and he posted that video online
Speaker 5: and it went super viral. People really respond on it
Speaker 5: to it, seeming to indicate that there was an appetite
Speaker 5: for this type of thing. Ryan Reynolds approached to Colin Hanks,
Speaker 5: the son of Tom Hanks, who directed this documentary, and
Speaker 5: the family of John Candy, including his two children and
Speaker 5: his late wife, all of whom participated in this documentary
Speaker 5: looking back through their own old home movies, looking back
Speaker 5: through interviews with John Candy that kind of pieced together
Speaker 5: this story of a guy who really did not expect
Speaker 5: to be a comedian. He actually was, you know, looking
Speaker 5: to either go into the military as a young man
Speaker 5: or maybe become a professional football player, but found himself
Speaker 5: to be a very talented comedian, starting off with the
Speaker 5: sort of false comedy sketch comedy show SDTV sort of
Speaker 5: known as like the anti SNL for a little while,
Speaker 5: and then moving into movies like Stripes and like Splash,
Speaker 5: as we said, Uncle Buck Home Alone, Like these are
Speaker 5: you know, classic films that John Candy really did change
Speaker 5: for the better.
Speaker 1: Right he was known as being this very generous performer.
Speaker 5: I actually had a chance to talk to excuse he
Speaker 5: had a chance to talk to John Candy's two children,
Speaker 5: who were just kids when they when their dad passed
Speaker 5: away in nineteen ninety four, and they said that the
Speaker 5: experience of putting this documentary together, of piecing through all
Speaker 5: this old footage of him really did make them feel
Speaker 5: like detectives in their own father's life. That's the words
Speaker 5: that they use, and it really does show up on screen.
Speaker 5: It's a really moving documentary. I have to say it's
Speaker 5: worth your time if you like John Candy or if
Speaker 5: you're just interested in the history of comedy.
Speaker 1: He seemed like a really, really good guy both on
Speaker 1: screen and off.
Speaker 5: Yeah, generosity is a word that he's coming up in
Speaker 5: interviews in this documentary. You hear from a lot of
Speaker 5: big time comedians first and foremost, hear from Bill Murray,
Speaker 5: mel Brooks, Katherine O'Hara, Conan O'Brien, Martin Short like, there's
Speaker 5: a ton of people that they got together for this documentary,
Speaker 5: and they all said that John Candy was such a
Speaker 5: great scene partner because he was always giving you something
Speaker 5: to work as an actor. As a performer, he was
Speaker 5: never trying to win the scene. He understood that it
Speaker 5: was a collaborative process. And I think that really does
Speaker 5: speak to John Candy's whole oubra right, His whole sort
Speaker 5: of mood was to be generous, to make sure that
Speaker 5: not just the performers were taken care of, but the
Speaker 5: cast and crew as well. In addition to making time
Speaker 5: for his family and the stresses of that did take
Speaker 5: a toll on him. John Candy was a heavier guy,
Speaker 5: and Hollywood put pressure on this man, according to this documentary,
Speaker 5: to a a little overweight so that they could poke
Speaker 5: fun at him. Some of these older interviews with John
Speaker 5: Candy as well are kind of uncomfortable to sit through
Speaker 5: because he can tell the interviewers trying to get a
Speaker 5: joke out of, you know, his weight, when you know
Speaker 5: John Candy himself is not very comfortable with that, and
Speaker 5: that tension also does sort of run through this entire
Speaker 5: documentary where you know he did feel stressed by that.
Speaker 1: He never let it, you know, derail.
Speaker 5: His career necessarily, but that did, you know, take a
Speaker 5: toll on him, you know, over the cour or's it
Speaker 5: been years.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go top three, I'm gonna go Uncle Buck Stripes.
Speaker 1: And then kind of like back of the Room Canadian Bacon,
Speaker 1: which is a movie about with John Candy I think
Speaker 1: played the mayor and it's about the president of the
Speaker 1: United States needs a controversies who gin's up basically a
Speaker 1: war against Canada, and.
Speaker 5: The Canadian part of this runs through this so big
Speaker 5: way I have to say, Yeah, I gotta say I
Speaker 5: think we should shout out playing Strains and Automobile.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you know.
Speaker 5: Baseballs is another great one and something that people forget
Speaker 5: that John Candy was in was one of Steven Spielberg's
Speaker 5: first movies nineteen forty one at War drama of all things.
Speaker 5: But yeah, he really did have a pretty varied career.
Speaker 5: I also just love him in Home Alone. I think
Speaker 5: the last one in the last speak was freely with
Speaker 5: him and the Catherine O'Hara in Home Alone, and he's.
Speaker 1: The polka singer, like.
Speaker 5: Classic John Dannity stuff where it's really funny but it's also.
Speaker 1: Really heart selt and warm. Yeah, he never comes over
Speaker 1: and like steals the whole movie. Kind of guy. But
Speaker 1: at the same time, like if he like, I think
Speaker 1: the best cameo sort of cam something would be Vacation
Speaker 1: with Chevy Chase. I mean he came in as a
Speaker 1: security guard and just owned it.
Speaker 5: Yeah, And and that was actually the documentary gets into this.
Speaker 5: They were kind of just looking for a guy, and
Speaker 5: John Candy was a.
Speaker 6: Round It's even so it's sort of.
Speaker 5: Happenstance that he fell into that role. But yeah, the
Speaker 5: end of Vacation is a great example of that. Playing that, like,
Speaker 5: you know, a character that he says was inspired by
Speaker 5: one of the characters he played on SCTV.
Speaker 1: Uh, you know, in this in this.
Speaker 5: New role that was kind of update guy, but like
Speaker 5: that force to deal with the you know, obviously the
Speaker 5: craziness of Chevy Chase.
Speaker 1: So it's it's good. Used to love s c TV
Speaker 1: because that's where I grew up in Western New York
Speaker 1: and so you know, you get the Canadian stations and
Speaker 1: that was like before us and l there was that
Speaker 1: that was on se TV is like on Friday nights,
Speaker 1: I think or something like that, and so you'd watch
Speaker 1: that and the Mackenzie Brothers and but but so many
Speaker 1: people came out of Second City, Chicago and then to Toronto.
Speaker 1: You know, it's you know, dan Aykroyd's in there on
Speaker 1: Candies in there, and you just go on and on
Speaker 1: with all these great names and people, you know, Geene Levy,
Speaker 1: et cetera, Catherine O'Hara, and then they all come back
Speaker 1: together and you go, oh, yeah, I remember them when
Speaker 1: and of course now they're older now. So anyway, is
Speaker 1: it one or three or five? And how well? Is
Speaker 1: it a series? Mike, No, it's a.
Speaker 3: One and done.
Speaker 5: It's okay, about a two hours so maybe like hour
Speaker 5: forty five documentary on Amazon Prime Video.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'd watch that all right theaters. Let's pivot from
Speaker 1: the small screen to the big The new Tron movie
Speaker 1: is out right now, and I know that Nine Inch Nails.
Speaker 1: I'm not a huge Nine Inch Nails fan, but I
Speaker 1: do like some of their songs, so that kind of
Speaker 1: intrigued me. And I saw that Jeff Bridges back, right,
Speaker 1: jeth Bridges is back.
Speaker 5: This is the third Tron movie and Jeff Bridges is
Speaker 5: in all of them. So this is a classic sort
Speaker 5: of sci fi franchise. All got started about forty three
Speaker 5: years ago in the early nineteen eighties with this story
Speaker 5: of Jeff Bridges with a computer programmer who got sucked
Speaker 5: into a computer game, and that computer game with brawn
Speaker 5: of course, with big neon lights and at this point
Speaker 5: now visuals, but even still it was a really you know,
Speaker 5: impactful movie in the history of sci fi cinema. They
Speaker 5: follow that up in twenty ten with Tron Legacy, that,
Speaker 5: of course, you know, also starred Jeff Bridges, and you know,
Speaker 5: had this really cool daft punk soundtrack that a lot
Speaker 5: of people still listen to now We're back with Tron Aris.
Speaker 5: This stars Jared Leto and Greta Lee alongside the returning
Speaker 5: Jeff Bridges.
Speaker 1: As you said, it is scored by Nine Inch Nails.
Speaker 5: So they didn't get that punk back that punk broke up, unfortunately,
Speaker 5: but they did get a similar sort of like electronic
Speaker 5: kind of vibe back. And that is one of the
Speaker 5: big draws of these Tron movies. They have these killer soundtracks,
Speaker 5: these really distinctive visuals. However, they're never quite reviewed positively
Speaker 5: in terms of the stories, and I think that is
Speaker 5: holding true with this new one. I'm looking at the
Speaker 5: New York Times review right now, which is titled who
Speaker 5: needs logic when you have Neon? And then of course
Speaker 5: the rap also says skip the hack sequel, just download
Speaker 5: this down track.
Speaker 1: I remember seeing parts of Tron becase because back then
Speaker 1: was when we first got a pay cable like HBO,
Speaker 1: and there were four movies and they'd run them all
Speaker 1: like all the time. You'd seen the same four movies
Speaker 1: over and over, and one of them would be Tron
Speaker 1: And I remember, even as a kid watching it, going
Speaker 1: it's pretty cheesy.
Speaker 5: Yeah, even in period, I remember I had a Tron
Speaker 5: video game back in the day, and that's how I
Speaker 5: learned about Tron. I was like everybody was saying, it's like, oh,
Speaker 5: Tron Legacy's coming up. They made a movie based on
Speaker 5: video games. No, no, no other way around. So is it
Speaker 5: is it any good? I mean, what what's the reviews like?
Speaker 5: Not not super positive, it seems like, but as we said,
Speaker 5: that's always been the case with Tron movie.
Speaker 1: You know a little bit of style over substance, but
Speaker 1: that's not always a bad thing. It's a weird beats right,
Speaker 1: because it's it's not it's sci fi, but it's kind
Speaker 1: of like not good. It's not like Star Trek Star Wars,
Speaker 1: where there's a huge passion like core Tron, people aren't
Speaker 1: that big, and it's just it just kind of like
Speaker 1: falls between the cracks. I think the best way to
Speaker 1: describe the.
Speaker 5: Franchise definitely, Yeah, it's got fans, but it's a passionate,
Speaker 5: small fan base. I would say it's definitely not a
Speaker 5: Star Wars or a Star Trek in that regard. But again,
Speaker 5: I mean, if you're a fan of big sci fi spectacle,
Speaker 5: this definitely does seem like it will do the trick
Speaker 5: instead of people being sucked into computers, this is computer
Speaker 5: programs that have become self aware, spilling out into our
Speaker 5: real world and wreaking.
Speaker 1: All sorts of pathoch.
Speaker 5: It seems like the classic Tron light cycles as well,
Speaker 5: which I'm a fan of the motorcycles that put up
Speaker 5: the giant digital Worm.
Speaker 1: They make a reappearance here, so that is kind of
Speaker 1: an exciting all right.
Speaker 2: One of our not to the old Ron films.
Speaker 1: One of our entertainment gurus, Mike Tbiski from New York
Speaker 1: on the show on seven hundred WLW and years ago
Speaker 1: when the Borat movie first came out and a huge
Speaker 1: fan of Sasha Baron Cones stuff that kind of stuff,
Speaker 1: and I went to the theater to watch it, and
Speaker 1: I was pleasantly amused because there are people showing up,
Speaker 1: older people who elderly people show up to watch it
Speaker 1: think it was actually a documentary about a country that
Speaker 1: doesn't exist, and they were leaving literally in the first
Speaker 1: five ten minutes of movies completely pissed off because they
Speaker 1: thought it was a real documentary, which I found outstanding
Speaker 1: agid prop. And so now fast forward to if you
Speaker 1: go to see Kiss a Spider Woman, expecting to be
Speaker 1: a Marvel franchise kind of. It's not right. Oh no,
Speaker 1: not ry aalogue stretch. Somebody's going, wait a minute, I
Speaker 1: thought there was a Spider Woman. What the hell?
Speaker 5: Yeah, not a reference to Spider Man, No, Ki Spider Woman.
Speaker 5: It is a musical starring Jennifer Lopez and is based
Speaker 5: on a book which was then turned into a musical
Speaker 5: in the nineteen eighties with a stage and a film musical.
Speaker 5: Now they're remaking it with Jennifer Lopez sort of in
Speaker 5: the starring role. She plays three different characters in this movie,
Speaker 5: but it's really set in the early nineteen eighties in
Speaker 5: Argentina and sort of the waning days of an authoritarian
Speaker 5: government there. And what they get into in this story
Speaker 5: is the story of two political prisoners, effectively, one of
Speaker 5: whom is telling the story of this classic Hollywood movie
Speaker 5: to the other one basically as a way to entertain
Speaker 5: themselves while they're in prison. And as this person is
Speaker 5: telling this story, you the viewer, find yourself transported to
Speaker 5: the world of the musical film. So it goes from
Speaker 5: the gray, brown, drab prison to this very technicolor kind
Speaker 5: of expressive musical world with again Jennifer Lopez kind of
Speaker 5: in the starring Hollywood role. There also starts Diego Luno,
Speaker 5: who star Wars fans might recognize as Cassie and and
Speaker 5: Or from the and Or TV series, also from the
Speaker 5: Rogue One movie. He's in this and also a relative newcomer,
Speaker 5: Tona Tua just goes by one name in this film,
Speaker 5: and this person that really is a standout. I got
Speaker 5: a chance to see this movie a little bit early,
Speaker 5: and I walked away very impressed. You know, it sounds
Speaker 5: like it's kind of a hodgepodge of a lot of
Speaker 5: different things.
Speaker 1: It deals with a lot.
Speaker 5: Of different things, from sort of political storylines to sexuality storylines,
Speaker 5: storylines about love and death and all these other sorts
Speaker 5: of things. I gotta say it lands. I think it
Speaker 5: really really works with the caveat that I understand that
Speaker 5: musicals are not for everyone. I am partial to musicals,
Speaker 5: that is, you know, the sort of disclaimer that I'll give.
Speaker 5: But even still, it is a good time at the movies.
Speaker 5: Tron is expected to be the big winner at the
Speaker 5: box office this weekend. This is going to be kind
Speaker 5: of a lesser player, it seems, at least in terms
Speaker 5: of box office straw, but I walked away really impressed.
Speaker 1: If you're into musicals, if you like j Love.
Speaker 5: Maybe even if you like Cassie and or from Star Wars,
Speaker 5: maybe check this one.
Speaker 1: Out, all right? Yeah, and Kalloe is going to crush
Speaker 1: it no matter what she does. If she's singing on
Speaker 1: a microphone, you're good. Even without a microphone, she's pretty good.
Speaker 1: So this is like the little hall a lull And
Speaker 1: in a few weeks we'll probably fire up the holiday
Speaker 1: season and get ready for that. So Mike Debiskie in
Speaker 1: New York at ABC at the Michael Lebuski is his handle.
Speaker 1: Thanks again, buddy, appreciate you checking on this Friday morning.
Speaker 1: Have a great one, have a good one. Take care
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Speaker 1: there on this Friday morning with news happening in just
Speaker 1: about three minutes when we return, it's Representative Greg Landsman.
Speaker 1: We'll check out on the show. What the hell is
Speaker 1: he doing. I'm gonna ask him if he's willing to
Speaker 1: as a member of Congress and Congress not doing anything
Speaker 1: with the shutdown. You should go around at least I
Speaker 1: don't know. It's two early shovel driveways. How about go
Speaker 1: cut some lawns? First ten callers at five point three
Speaker 1: seven more give us your addressing Greg Landsman or you're representative,
Speaker 1: roll up of sleeves and you know'll cut your grass.
Speaker 1: God damn it. Doing something. Actually, I believe he's given
Speaker 1: his money back, so he's not taking a paycheck. But
Speaker 1: I said, you went in. The shutdown is take away
Speaker 1: their healthcare benefits and their paycheck, and I would think
Speaker 1: you'd probably not have a shutdown. But that's what we'll
Speaker 1: be talking about. To some degree. Of course, what's happening
Speaker 1: in Gaza right now? How close are we to peace?
Speaker 1: A lot of people say, very very close. Looks like
Speaker 1: it's a done deal. Maybe the President heads there this
Speaker 1: weekend off the Egypt and cut her and they're involved
Speaker 1: and signing this this deal. The deal has been struck
Speaker 1: we're going to have a cease fire. Question is how
Speaker 1: long it lasts. We'll get into that, and of course
Speaker 1: the shutdown related stuff. And an observation here is, you know, okay,
Speaker 1: one side blames the other. We've seen this blame game
Speaker 1: go on. Is that Democrats there the ones who force
Speaker 1: the government shut down because it's the only way to
Speaker 1: get negotiations with the little power they hold. And the
Speaker 1: reason why they picked healthcare is because it's it's of
Speaker 1: the I think three issues ones women's rights in the environment,
Speaker 1: and the other being healthcare. It's the one that most
Speaker 1: people respond to. And of course, with the subsidies expiring
Speaker 1: are set to expire here. Now, hey, it's one of
Speaker 1: the few things that we're beating Trump on, which would
Speaker 1: be healthcare. So let's take that issue that people trust
Speaker 1: us on and use that to maybe build some momentum here.
Speaker 5: Now.
Speaker 1: I don't know what kind of momentum it is right now,
Speaker 1: because they don't have one as far as a party
Speaker 1: goes and where it's headed and what's happening. If you
Speaker 1: think there are things are a little screwed up with
Speaker 1: the Republicans, they're a lot more screwed up with the Democrats,
Speaker 1: and the end result is government is shut down because
Speaker 1: of that. But I think you also have to look
Speaker 1: at it and go, how did this whole thing happen
Speaker 1: to begin with? Well, Democrats rolled Obamacare subsidies, the extensions
Speaker 1: of Obamacare for ACA, right into the American Rescue Plan.
Speaker 1: I'll get into this with Greg. So we had the
Speaker 1: American Rescue Plan. What's the America? It was COVID. We
Speaker 1: had COVID stuff, okay, and you kept trying to drag
Speaker 1: COVID on much much longer than necessary. We got to
Speaker 1: keep We got COVID relief COVID that first year a
Speaker 1: couple of years ago. Absolutely, we're shut down. We didn't
Speaker 1: know what we're doing. Once you start to get to
Speaker 1: year five, you can't really go back, Well it's COVID
Speaker 1: like no. And then they went, well, we can't use
Speaker 1: COVID anymore. We'll make up the Inflation Reduction Act. And
Speaker 1: the problem is all of the stuff in Inflation Reduction Act,
Speaker 1: Rescue Plan, Obamacare, all of it was passed by executive FIAT,
Speaker 1: by the pen of Joe Biden, by BARACKO. But there's
Speaker 1: not a vote on this stuff, right, So the end
Speaker 1: result is we have a government that now a Congress,
Speaker 1: it doesn't do anything because we've completely given that authority
Speaker 1: to the president. And again we saw what Biden did,
Speaker 1: and when Donald Trump got elected, he said, Okay, we'll
Speaker 1: hold my beer because here we go. You want to
Speaker 1: see some executive orders, watch this. We've had a flurry
Speaker 1: of them, and again that's you don't need Congress. If
Speaker 1: the executive branch you can sign everything away. That's not
Speaker 1: how the constitution works. But we allowed them to get
Speaker 1: away with it. We'll talk more with Greg Lansman afternoons
Speaker 1: on the Home of the Best Bengals coverage seven hundred WW.
Speaker 7: Since then, do you want to be an American?
Speaker 1: Got flown? Friday morning, seven hundred WLW. We're nearing the
Speaker 1: end of our second full week of shutdown theater. Republicans
Speaker 1: are screaming at Democrats that they're forcing a shut down
Speaker 1: to score political points. Democrats are screaming at Republicans saying
Speaker 1: they just don't want to sit down and negotiate, and
Speaker 1: of course, a shutdown because Republicans Democrats can't agree to
Speaker 1: pass a funding bill. Republicans still need them to support
Speaker 1: any resolution to spend and they're holding them hostage result
Speaker 1: that we have this shutdown. So Greg Lansman is here,
Speaker 1: our representative, and what are we paying you for? Exactly? Landsman?
Speaker 1: Right now, you're not doing anything.
Speaker 2: What I mean, I'm trying. I'm negotia. We're trying to
Speaker 2: negotiate with the folks. Uh. You know, I'm in the
Speaker 2: Problem Solvers Caucus. So there's a bunch of Democrats Republicans
Speaker 2: they're working through. At the sticking point is this healthcare
Speaker 2: question and and and these affortable care access These are
Speaker 2: set to expire at the end of the year and
Speaker 2: open enrollment starts in a few weeks. And you know,
Speaker 2: there are those of us who want a resolution to
Speaker 2: this now so that those extensions happen, and others who say,
Speaker 2: you know, reopen the government and then we'll talk about healthcare.
Speaker 2: But you know that that that's the crux of this
Speaker 2: is trying to get a deal done where we reopen
Speaker 2: the government and protect people's health care.
Speaker 1: Yeah. And I think for well a lot of us
Speaker 1: anyway who are not political kool aid drinkers and look
Speaker 1: at and just throw our hands up and go, I
Speaker 1: just you know one point that we're pointing. It's almost stupid.
Speaker 1: You're both wearing the same T shirt and that's essentially
Speaker 1: what this is. And we know how we are. Okay,
Speaker 1: So Democrats, you guys, you forced a government shutdown because
Speaker 1: it's the only way to bring about the negotiations because
Speaker 1: you don't hold any jukes, you don't have the power.
Speaker 1: So you know, I look at that and go, can
Speaker 1: we extend it? Well, I mean, it's going to cost
Speaker 1: us like a trillion and a half dollars over the
Speaker 1: next seven weeks to just simply kick the can down
Speaker 1: the wrong and go, okay, we'll pass another continuing resolution.
Speaker 1: And that's the frustrating part all of this, all these theatrics, Greg,
Speaker 1: It's just it's continuing to add to our thirty seven
Speaker 1: trillion dollar national debt, and neither side's talking about that.
Speaker 2: I mean, I think that's that's right, And the deficit
Speaker 2: is a huge part of this too, right, So I
Speaker 2: do take exception with the sort of you know, the
Speaker 2: forcing of the shutdown. I mean, the challenge wise, you know,
Speaker 2: Republicans knew they needed Democratic votes to pass a budget,
Speaker 2: and they were told by Trump not to negotiate. Now,
Speaker 2: in previous years, there has been by Parson negotiation since
Speaker 2: I produced it by parson budget or continuing resolution. They
Speaker 2: did not do that, and that that's what forced the
Speaker 2: shut down. That would be my argument. That's the way
Speaker 2: it played out, in the way I thought it was.
Speaker 2: It would have been super easy to sit down and negotiate,
Speaker 2: and had their enough been told, don't negotiate, I think
Speaker 2: they would have. But the deficit is a huge, huge
Speaker 2: piece of this fight too, because remember this all started
Speaker 2: the mess, you know, several months ago, with the this
Speaker 2: this massive spending and tax bill that added you know,
Speaker 2: trillions of dollars to the deficit, and then and then
Speaker 2: cut healthcare by over trillion dollars, all to pay for
Speaker 2: these tax cuts, tax cuts that overwhelmingly benefit folks at
Speaker 2: the top. Now, had they not done that, we would
Speaker 2: not be in this mess, and we would not have
Speaker 2: added trillions of dollars to the deficit. But I'm I'm
Speaker 2: a firm believer that none of that matters, No one
Speaker 2: really cares. You just have to get in a room
Speaker 2: and sort it out, and in this case, reopened the
Speaker 2: government while also protecting healthcare. Just because this is relevant
Speaker 2: to my job as a member I represent you know,
Speaker 2: eight hundred thousand constituents in our districts. In southwest Ohio,
Speaker 2: thirty two thousand people are going to see their healthcare
Speaker 2: bemum skyrocket if we don't do something now, and fourteen
Speaker 2: thousand folks here will lose their healthcare altogether. I can't
Speaker 2: I can't just punt on that, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: I've got to get that result.
Speaker 1: I got to go and I get the short term
Speaker 1: necessity for this, Greg Lansman. So the fact is, so
Speaker 1: the substantes expire, and the premiums for those in the
Speaker 1: Affordable Care Act, the marketplace right would more than double
Speaker 1: on it goes up for like I think I saw
Speaker 1: eight hundred and almost nine hundred dollars to nineteen hundred
Speaker 1: dollars a year for individuals. It's like one hundred plus
Speaker 1: percent increase. Bad at math, forgive me. But that's a
Speaker 1: hell of a lot of money, right, So, and that's
Speaker 1: going to hit tens of thousands of people in the district.
Speaker 1: And I look at that, go, Okay, that's real money.
Speaker 1: It's going to affect real people, and that is a
Speaker 1: that's a huge problem. And I guess the thing is
Speaker 1: the fact that that why isn't anyone just talking about
Speaker 1: how we're just extending more subsidies, like it's not really affordable.
Speaker 1: We're just taking money from a different pile and moving
Speaker 1: it to this pile to help people out. When you
Speaker 1: look at it, you go, wow, why does it cost
Speaker 1: so much for healthcare in this country? Why why aren't
Speaker 1: we addressing that issue rather than saying, hey, we can't
Speaker 1: socialized medicine Like Republicans climate you know, you guys, they
Speaker 1: very least have a plan. It's the Affordable Care Act,
Speaker 1: and you know, patchwork Medicare, Medicaid and everything else, and
Speaker 1: it's we know that doesn't really work because subsidy is
Speaker 1: just transferring more money and covering up the problem. It
Speaker 1: shouldn't cost thirteen thousand dollars per person in the United
Speaker 1: States for just basic level healthcare. The other side, you know,
Speaker 1: Republicans don't really have an alternative solution to the healthcare
Speaker 1: crisis here. Why why don't we ever address that? Was
Speaker 1: just band it.
Speaker 2: Because it's hard, right, and politicians don't usually like to
Speaker 2: do the hard work. That's the stuff I love the most.
Speaker 2: I actually think that the health care complexity is what
Speaker 2: you know, and that's one of the reasons why I
Speaker 2: joined Energy and commerce because that's where we take on
Speaker 2: the healthcare fight and ultimately just gets back to who's
Speaker 2: paying for health care. And so for a long time,
Speaker 2: you know, employers did and most employers would cover your
Speaker 2: health care costs. And that's not the case anymore. You
Speaker 2: have more and more people who are working who don't
Speaker 2: get healthcare through their employers have to go buy it separately,
Speaker 2: and it's it's just too expensive for most people based
Speaker 2: on what people are earning. And so you know the
Speaker 2: question is do you want those folks to have no
Speaker 2: health insurance which screws everybody right because health care costs
Speaker 2: go up across the board. Or an't it bad to just,
Speaker 2: you know, have people, you know running around without health insurance.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you work two or three jobs and it's part time.
Speaker 1: And you know, the again, the engine that drives American economy.
Speaker 1: Of course, small business and those who went with the
Speaker 1: vast material businesses employ less than two hundred people and
Speaker 1: fewer and few of those businesses are offering healthcare mefoits
Speaker 1: simply because it costs to much.
Speaker 2: And yeah, and so then there are two places that
Speaker 2: a lot of folks go, I mean you know, there's
Speaker 2: obviously Medicare, there's Medicaid. If you're you're working and you're
Speaker 2: not making enough money to buy health insurance in the
Speaker 2: private marketplace, and your employer does not give you healthcare,
Speaker 2: which is the case for these lower wage jobs. And
Speaker 2: then and then you have a lot of middle class
Speaker 2: folks who are working really hard. They can't cover They
Speaker 2: can pay maybe you know, five six hundred dollars a week,
Speaker 2: but they can't a month, but they can't pay the
Speaker 2: thousand dollars are being asked to pay. So the subsidy
Speaker 2: helps to cover that and keep people ensured. That helps
Speaker 2: small businesses because you know, some he's helping, so they're
Speaker 2: stick around and they're they're not losing, right.
Speaker 1: I understand that. My point, My point is, Greg, it doesn't. Okay,
Speaker 1: you were just taking more tax pay money and subsidizing it.
Speaker 1: And I know we're in a nation of substies, but
Speaker 1: the point is it's so expensive because of the system
Speaker 1: that's in place right now. You said this is a
Speaker 1: hard problem. I don't think it's that hard To'll be
Speaker 1: honest with you. Hear me out for a second. Okay,
Speaker 1: so you've got these enhanced subsidies that were started in
Speaker 1: twenty twenty one from COVID nineteen and we got them
Speaker 1: through twenty twenty five, which I don't know. We're far
Speaker 1: moved from COVID right now. And it's been a cover
Speaker 1: for a long time to say, well it's COVID. Well no,
Speaker 1: it's a you know, this has to do with the
Speaker 1: Inflation Reduction Act. And by the way, all those things
Speaker 1: were passed like Trump's doing right now with executive order.
Speaker 1: So Congress has literally been rendered a gelding here in
Speaker 1: this case because you guys, you know, if we're going
Speaker 1: to have executive decree in an executive branch and the
Speaker 1: president just sign away an executive order everything, this is
Speaker 1: what we wind up getting. And this is why the
Speaker 1: governments shut down because Congress is kind of fact. So
Speaker 1: I look at the failures in healthcare in the market
Speaker 1: and go, you know, I buy life insurance. You have
Speaker 1: a hear complaint, well life insurance policy. I got car insurance.
Speaker 1: I buy that on the market. I have homeowners or
Speaker 1: I have renters insurance. We buy stuff on the open
Speaker 1: market all the time. Healthcare doesn't work like that. And
Speaker 1: I think if you just simply it really easy for
Speaker 1: Congress who goes listen, if you're an employer, you can
Speaker 1: offer health care benefits anymore. We're going to open it
Speaker 1: up to insurance companies from around the country. They're going
Speaker 1: to bid on it. It's innovative, the lowest cost wins.
Speaker 1: And then all the money that we spend on bureaucracy
Speaker 1: and compliance and share all that stuff, all that money
Speaker 1: can go and help people who fall between the cracks,
Speaker 1: who really need it. And look at the gig economy.
Speaker 1: So many people are stuck in jobs they hate or
Speaker 1: they're underpaid because they have health care benefits. If we
Speaker 1: freed people from employment and health care benefits and liberated them,
Speaker 1: the economy would explode. Why aren't we doing that? It's
Speaker 1: the easiest thing in the world for you guys to go. No,
Speaker 1: you're a business. You can't offer health insurance. You're not
Speaker 1: giving me car insurance, taking care of my homeowners insurance.
Speaker 1: You're not by my pet insurance or my renter's insurance.
Speaker 1: Why are we doing thotle of health care?
Speaker 2: Are you as sure as I'm sorry? Are you making
Speaker 2: an argument for a single pair?
Speaker 1: I'm out? Yeah, here's the thing, right, So here's the
Speaker 1: thing and it's based on and there's still going to
Speaker 1: be subsidy, of course, because there's people that again, but
Speaker 1: you said, you know, if you make the standard what
Speaker 1: eight hundred, I forget what the percentage is, but a
Speaker 1: percentage your income goes to healthcare costs, just like it
Speaker 1: does for everything else. And if you can't meet that,
Speaker 1: the government can come in and help you there, and
Speaker 1: we'll have more than enough money to not only put
Speaker 1: that towards the deficit, greg but also help people who
Speaker 1: really need it. That's good for Republicans and Democrats, isn't it.
Speaker 2: I mean, I do. I do believe that the current
Speaker 2: passion does not work and and sort of taking away
Speaker 2: from that is just going to create this crisis, right,
Speaker 2: so that I agree with, which is you know, I
Speaker 2: believe there should be a single payer or at least
Speaker 2: a public option where people can buy into Medicaid, which
Speaker 2: is an incredibly efficient, uh you know healthcare uh system,
Speaker 2: and it's got the lowest overhead. I'm not I'm not
Speaker 2: a big believer that everything should be uh, you know,
Speaker 2: for profit, Like I just don't think that these healthcare
Speaker 2: companies should be running a big profit.
Speaker 8: Well, you're in the wrong country. Then buddy. But yes
Speaker 8: and no, like there are certain places where we don't
Speaker 8: say okay, like I we we say, look, we want
Speaker 8: the profits or any additional resources here to go into
Speaker 8: people's care, Like people should not be making, uh, you know,
Speaker 8: billions and billions.
Speaker 2: Of dollars, you know, running these healthcare companies or pharmaceutical companies,
Speaker 2: when in fact you have all of these people who
Speaker 2: are struggling to pay for their health care. So I
Speaker 2: don't think that the current system works.
Speaker 3: But we're not going to going to that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the question is it's like, you know, this this
Speaker 2: is being negotiated or worked on simultaneously with the President
Speaker 2: announcing a twenty billion dollar subsidy for Argentina. Now that
Speaker 2: went under the radar screen radar for most people. But like,
Speaker 2: why are we sending twenty billion dollars to Argentina? I
Speaker 2: mean seriously, Yeah, when it could easily solve this problem
Speaker 2: and reopen the government. You know, I just don't get it,
Speaker 2: Like I I agree that, like, you can't subsidize everything.
Speaker 2: But so far this administration has picked a few things
Speaker 2: intel you know, maybe some additional companies as like this
Speaker 2: TikTok deal and some other things We're not entirely sure
Speaker 2: and Argentina, but you can't help people pay their health care.
Speaker 2: That doesn't make any sense to me zero. Right.
Speaker 1: He's Greg Landsman, a representative here this morning with Sloanely
Speaker 1: on seven hundred WLW. How long do you perceive this guy?
Speaker 1: I mean, you know you're kind of on the inside.
Speaker 1: You're hearing stuff too. Is how long does this drag on?
Speaker 1: At What point is enough enough? When is the point made?
Speaker 2: When? I mean, like, at least for me, like I've
Speaker 2: got to I've got to keep fighting for the healthcare piece,
Speaker 2: just because I've got so many constituents who are gonna
Speaker 2: weak for healthcare if we don't get this done. I
Speaker 2: suspect that one of two things will happen. Either Trump
Speaker 2: finally gets involved. I've never seen this happen where the
Speaker 2: presidents are sort of unplugged, like you do need the
Speaker 2: president to step in and say, okay, we're going to
Speaker 2: get a deal done, right, and he has not done
Speaker 2: that yet. They had an hour meeting in the White
Speaker 2: House a couple of weeks ago. He mostly just kind
Speaker 2: of listened. I don't I think he was getting caught
Speaker 2: up based on my you know, understanding of the meeting,
Speaker 2: like you need a president, Like if you were president
Speaker 2: or I was president, we would we would lock a
Speaker 2: couple of people in a room and just say get
Speaker 2: a deal done. That's suicide, yes, and it would get resolved.
Speaker 2: That's the other option is that it's sort of you know,
Speaker 2: from the bottom up, which is that there's a group
Speaker 2: of Senators Jean Shaheen and and Lisa mccowsky and and
Speaker 2: a few others, you know, Republican Democrats and a group
Speaker 2: of us on the House side who have been pushing
Speaker 2: this notion that you have to just open things up,
Speaker 2: get the stubs that he's done, maybe with some reform,
Speaker 2: capping it, for example, at a certain income level. Uh
Speaker 2: and and and and then live to fight another day.
Speaker 2: And if that happens, I think that forces that forces
Speaker 2: in the speed.
Speaker 1: Well well here's what and and and I think, okay,
Speaker 1: it may force And then in seven weeks do we
Speaker 1: do this all over again?
Speaker 2: No, I wouldn't. Like I'm I'm a big fan of
Speaker 2: saying like, we're not doing this for like, we're not
Speaker 2: going to do this every couple of weeks. So if
Speaker 2: we pass a continuing resolution that also includes these healthcare provisions.
Speaker 2: That's should be for the year. And if we can
Speaker 2: get a budget done, an actual budget, great, then put
Speaker 2: that on the floor and that can.
Speaker 1: Be incredibly I got an actual budget done at this point.
Speaker 1: He's representative Greg Lansam. Greg, Before I let you go
Speaker 1: real quick, I want to pivot to another issue here,
Speaker 1: and that would be the peace in Israel. Hamasa President
Speaker 1: may fly this weekend to the Middle East of Egypt
Speaker 1: as a hammer. It looks like we've got a deal.
Speaker 1: How optimistic are you that this is going to be
Speaker 1: a lasting piece based on what you've seen.
Speaker 2: In her I'm cautiously optimistic. I mean, you know, I
Speaker 2: know the reason why I know these players. Well, I've
Speaker 2: been there, you know, like con in the last thirty months, yere,
Speaker 2: you know, two years, three years, and work there for years.
Speaker 2: This is something I've cared about for decades, right and
Speaker 2: working on like I desperately want there to be a
Speaker 2: lasting piece. It does sound like there's a deal to
Speaker 2: get the hostages home and to end the war, which
Speaker 2: I have been a big proponent of. What happens next
Speaker 2: is it's still a question for me. Are you know
Speaker 2: what happens with Kamas? Because I think you have to
Speaker 2: free Gaza of Hamas, both for Palestinians and for Israelis
Speaker 2: and for the region, like they can't. They can't stay
Speaker 2: there and continue to dig tunnels and and and kill
Speaker 2: innocent people and and start start wars. And so this
Speaker 2: comes back to this coalition of Arab countries and if
Speaker 2: if the administration can lock in and dedicate more staff
Speaker 2: uh to that coalition and formalizing that coalition so that
Speaker 2: they are there as a permanent you know, uh, a
Speaker 2: permanent leadership.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 2: You know source right, you know that.
Speaker 1: One of theol so to speak, there's gonna be a
Speaker 1: lot of people.
Speaker 2: Then I think you have to have a big coalition,
Speaker 2: particularly of Arab country which is how they got this
Speaker 2: deal done, right, They got this steal done because they
Speaker 2: pulled this group together, which is what I spent with
Speaker 2: cop this you know, not to shoot my own horn,
Speaker 2: but this is this was the plan I sent to
Speaker 2: with Copp months ago, which is like the path to
Speaker 2: this is through these airs, through the air of nations.
Speaker 2: Once they declared they were done with Hamas, the door
Speaker 2: was open. That was three or four or five months ago.
Speaker 2: And now you've got to pull them together which they've
Speaker 2: done to get this steal done. But then you have
Speaker 2: to keep them together in order to get to that
Speaker 2: lasting piece.
Speaker 1: Yeah. My fear is as long as you have a
Speaker 1: ran around, you're going to have some It may not
Speaker 1: be Hamas it maybe a hoss light or a different
Speaker 1: group in Tyree, but you're going to that's the problem. Right.
Speaker 1: So anyway, he is a representative, Greg Lance. Can you
Speaker 1: go cuff? Can some constituents lawns? I feel like, you
Speaker 1: know we're doing you're doing something for the people, Greg,
Speaker 1: because the sitting around is not a good look for
Speaker 1: You're an active guy coming.
Speaker 2: I am still yeah, but like I have really uh
Speaker 2: and like desperately trying to you know, get get something
Speaker 2: resolved here. I also suspended my pay. Yeah, and and
Speaker 2: and and I go back to DC next week no
Speaker 2: matter whether, no matter if the speaker calls us back,
Speaker 2: I'm going back to just keep plugging along to try
Speaker 2: to get this.
Speaker 1: See what you can do?
Speaker 2: I mean?
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, Well, hey man, I appreciate it. Friend,
Speaker 1: thanks again for checking in. He is our represent Greg
Speaker 1: Landsman on The Scotsland Show on seven. Have a great weekend, Okay,
Speaker 1: be well youbady appreciate it as always, although we disagreed
Speaker 1: somewhat there, but that's that's actually how it should be,
Speaker 1: right without screaming at each other. Yeah, I just, uh, well,
Speaker 1: there's a lot of problems with this. I'm running late,
Speaker 1: and we could kick as the why and how we
Speaker 1: got here, and a lot of this has to do
Speaker 1: with executive orders because Biden did it and then Trump said,
Speaker 1: hold my, hold my diet coke. This is how you
Speaker 1: do executive orders, and this is how we now govern.
Speaker 1: The executive order in Congress does nothing, and here we
Speaker 1: go again. Sloanly seven hundred w WE weekend is hair
Speaker 1: and that means lots of sports. Austin Elmore has a
Speaker 1: well deserved day off. Actually had the Green Bay.
Speaker 9: He's in there. He's in the middle Land in Wisconsin.
Speaker 7: He is.
Speaker 1: And I'll tell you what, I'm glad he took today off,
Speaker 1: quite honestly, because you need a full three days to
Speaker 1: experience Green Bay if you've never been and have an opportunity,
Speaker 1: I highly encourage that.
Speaker 9: Yeah, he was. He was indulging himself in some cheese
Speaker 9: curds and some pints yesterday. I saw, right media, So
Speaker 9: that's uh, he's doing it right.
Speaker 1: They have cheese curds here. I'm just saying they're entirely
Speaker 1: different in Wisconsin because they're like straight from the cow.
Speaker 1: There's still it's they're phenomenal, like absolutely worth it the
Speaker 1: cow in the back and just cranking them out there
Speaker 1: like a cow strabbled across this big, deep frier and
Speaker 1: just like someone milking in the just goes straight in.
Speaker 1: So there's that. There's the hall of Fame. The packers
Speaker 1: facility is it's it's really cool. It's really really cool.
Speaker 1: I don't know how to describe it other than really cool.
Speaker 1: Like the village around there, it's basically Packer lands, like
Speaker 1: a yeah, it's a Wrigley Veal feel to it, you
Speaker 1: know kind of thing, and it's real questioned and just
Speaker 1: the hall of Fame inside there's amazing. And then of
Speaker 1: course walking in the Lambeau a spectacular. So it's just
Speaker 1: if you have a chance to go, soak it all in,
Speaker 1: soak it all in. So Rick Ucchino is here. He
Speaker 1: just did the news. He runs in here breathlessly. Brick.
Speaker 1: Also in addition to the many other hats he wears here,
Speaker 1: because we all wear many hats, uh, He covers the
Speaker 1: Bengals for Serrus XM satellite radio. And so if you
Speaker 1: think things are bad in Cincinnati with Joe Flacco coming here,
Speaker 1: with the Reds getting this clay we made the postseason
Speaker 1: that gone swept by the Dodgers, who look like they
Speaker 1: may be the World Series champs. You think it's bad here,
Speaker 1: it could be worse. She could be Philly. Philly gets
Speaker 1: just truck last night by the New York Giants and
Speaker 1: a wet behind the years quarterback who's playing like the
Speaker 1: second incarnation of Pat Mahomes and Josh Allen's playing like
Speaker 1: he doesn't thirty four seven. Team Philly gets whooped, puts
Speaker 1: their legacy in question. And last night the most improbable
Speaker 1: thing of all happened in that Dodgers game. Dodgers put
Speaker 1: it away, it's one one, the head of the eleventh inning,
Speaker 1: there's two outs, the run around first and third, Kirkering
Speaker 1: comes in and he walks, the base is loaded, and
Speaker 1: then the play that looks like it's a Little League
Speaker 1: where the balls hit back to the mound, not hard,
Speaker 1: kind of weird, maybe a weird role on its spin,
Speaker 1: and he flubs it and instead of throwing the first
Speaker 1: where he clearly had the out. He throws it home
Speaker 1: and misses him by a country mile, and it was
Speaker 1: maybe a fifteen twenty foot throw.
Speaker 9: Yeah, you ever play billiards and you didn't chalk the
Speaker 9: queue up enough, That's what it looked like. It looked
Speaker 9: like that little skip right off the bat and it
Speaker 9: hits him in the shoe and it rolls away and
Speaker 9: it man, it was just he just panicked because if
Speaker 9: he just turn first off, he tries to throw home
Speaker 9: with his catcher pointing towards first base, He's like, throw
Speaker 9: the ball there, We're fine, and Steady loves it way wide.
Speaker 2: What what have been?
Speaker 9: And yeah, just ballgame over. If he just turns to
Speaker 9: his left and looks at first base, the runner I
Speaker 9: forget who was out the plate at the time. He's
Speaker 9: only halfway to first.
Speaker 3: He has more than.
Speaker 9: Enough time to throw that ball. Yeah, he continue the game.
Speaker 2: It was Jesse.
Speaker 9: It's one of those moments, that one of those situations
Speaker 9: that you dream about, but you never know how you're
Speaker 9: going to react in that situation. And it was just
Speaker 9: sheer panic and chaos and not the way you want
Speaker 9: your season to end. But still I will argue, by
Speaker 9: the way I will happily be a Philadelphia sports fan
Speaker 9: this morning if I could be considering, Yeah, the Eagles
Speaker 9: loss last night, there's still the defending Super Bowl champion.
Speaker 1: I'll take that hangover place. Philly does have a world
Speaker 1: championship in my life.
Speaker 9: My cognitive lifetime. Yes, last time the reds one, I
Speaker 9: was two.
Speaker 1: I get it.
Speaker 2: I get it.
Speaker 1: I'm so just saying if Philly today is and can
Speaker 1: you imagine being Kirkering and going back to Philly Like
Speaker 1: I just go, hey, you know what, I'm just gonna
Speaker 1: stay here.
Speaker 9: That man got shoved in a locker last night that
Speaker 9: I could just see kyleege Schwarber chasing him around with
Speaker 9: the bats, the.
Speaker 1: Playing back like TSA is waiting for him. It's like,
Speaker 1: I'm not I'm leaving. No, We're gonna go through your stuff. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we're going through your stuff. Let's start with this. Uh,
Speaker 1: we have the Bengals and we have the Packers. Sunday
Speaker 1: four twenty five, Dan and Lamp with the call at
Speaker 1: Dan on the first hour of the show, Joe Flacco
Speaker 1: comes into town, four year old quarterback Like when this
Speaker 1: broke you're reading, I asked this to everyone, What was
Speaker 1: your first reaction was like your gut reaction, Thank god?
Speaker 9: Is that really honestly in all sincerity, because they had
Speaker 9: to do something, Scott, Yeah, they had to do something.
Speaker 9: It could have been anybody. It could have been Sam Howell,
Speaker 9: it could have been any other quarterback out there. Because
Speaker 9: I'm watching this game. I was there a pay Horse
Speaker 9: Stadium on Sunday and I am watching Jake Browning play
Speaker 9: the worst game of football I've ever seen a quarterback
Speaker 9: play in my life. He is misreading, he is misthrowing,
Speaker 9: he is panicking, he is playing with absolutely no confidence.
Speaker 9: The entire stadium is booing him out of the building,
Speaker 9: praying that Zach Taylor brings in Brett Rippin. And the
Speaker 9: fact that Zach Taylor didn't bring in Brett Rippon when
Speaker 9: his quarterback has played that bad for twelve straight quarters
Speaker 9: shows you what they thought of Brett Rippon in that situation.
Speaker 9: And You're like, there's no quarterback on this roster that
Speaker 9: gives them a chance to be not just win, but
Speaker 9: be competitive. They had to do something. So seeing a
Speaker 9: guy who, yeah, he hasn't been playing that great this season,
Speaker 9: but the offense in Cleveland is not exactly surrounded with
Speaker 9: talent to help him out outside of the tight end position.
Speaker 9: To see them go out and make an in season trade,
Speaker 9: which they rarely do, to actually make a trade with
Speaker 9: the division rival that they've never pulled off before, shows
Speaker 9: you that they knew they had to do something, and
Speaker 9: they went out and they did something, and it cannot
Speaker 9: get worse. It can't get worse.
Speaker 1: My initial reaction was like, oh God, Joe Flacco can't move.
Speaker 1: He's forty years old, and like he's been benched for
Speaker 1: a reason. And I understand that, And Okay, I know
Speaker 1: you got to get Dylan Gabriel and maybe Shooter Sanders,
Speaker 1: and you know, quarterbacks die in Cleveland. I understand that.
Speaker 1: And then it struck me as like, you know what,
Speaker 1: but I'm gonna watch. I'm gonna listen to this game.
Speaker 1: And I went Then it worked because this weekend I
Speaker 1: was planning on, like, you know, I can't do much
Speaker 1: with my foot, but like it wasn't gonna be spending
Speaker 1: a beautiful Sunday afternoon because the weather's amazing, sitting inside
Speaker 1: watching the Bengals screw things up. Yeah, now I'm gonna watch.
Speaker 1: So it worked.
Speaker 9: You can either be bad or interesting. I would rather
Speaker 9: be interesting, right, Joe Flacco is is now interesting and
Speaker 9: you know you can as and trust me, we we
Speaker 9: have a lot of practices with this. As Bengals fans,
Speaker 9: you kind of talk yourself into being cautiously optimistic about this.
Speaker 9: Joe Flacco for his entire career right now arguably has
Speaker 9: the best weapons that he has ever had available to him.
Speaker 9: And I think the hope is if you're the Bengals,
Speaker 9: if you're Bengals, you can look at everything that Jake
Speaker 9: Browning wasn't doing and you can hope that Joe Flacco
Speaker 9: can do that. Can he actually make the right decision
Speaker 9: on an RPO with a stacked box instead of handing
Speaker 9: it off to Chase Brown, look over to his left
Speaker 9: and throw it to Jamar Chase when he's got two
Speaker 9: guys in front of him and they're perfectly blocked. Can
Speaker 9: he make that simple throw? Can he analyze the play
Speaker 9: beforehand and realize he's got Chase Brown one on one
Speaker 9: with a linebacker and that dude is going to get
Speaker 9: cooked and just throwed wide open across the middle of
Speaker 9: the field for a touchdown instead of trying to hit
Speaker 9: t Higgins on a fade route when he's double covered
Speaker 9: like these were simple breakdown plays and this that's Tony
Speaker 9: Pike's work. By the way that I'm quoting that checkdowns,
Speaker 9: though it says a lot about the cubit. Yeah, you're
Speaker 9: you're just making terrible decisions. Some of his interceptions were
Speaker 9: absolutely awful. Didn't know who he was throwing to. Somehow
Speaker 9: didn't see linebackers in the middle of the field. It
Speaker 9: wasn't until the fourth quarter on Sunday when you know
Speaker 9: he doesn't matter it, didn't care. Was off that he
Speaker 9: started making plays and he played it little bit more relaxed.
Speaker 9: They had to do something. Hopefully Joe can come in here,
Speaker 9: as as Jamar Chase eloquently said yesterday, do your job,
Speaker 9: get the ball to me and tea and let us go.
Speaker 9: Let us do what we do and let let these
Speaker 9: guys make the play, which I think they could be competitive.
Speaker 1: Which I think you'd be Bringing it back to last
Speaker 1: night's Dodgers Phillies game. I mean, a lot of Reds
Speaker 1: fans slash Bengals can empathize with Kick Geren because he
Speaker 1: looked like Jake Browning out there, and that last play
Speaker 1: of the game in the eleventh inn he was like,
Speaker 1: that's what our quarterback's been, Yes, largely for the last
Speaker 1: few games. Like he just seems scared in his own head.
Speaker 1: It's not physical, it's mental. And you know it's been
Speaker 1: a few couple of years since he last played and
Speaker 1: flashed really well in twenty three. Well it's twenty five
Speaker 1: ninety eight. So I'm in the Joe Flacco thing, which
Speaker 1: I'll be honest, I think like the rest of the
Speaker 1: NFL is watching this going kind of rooting for the
Speaker 1: Bengals and this going, Hey, here's old man Flacco, you know,
Speaker 1: twenty ninth quarterback that the Browns have had in the
Speaker 1: last twenty years. And now he goes to Cincinnati, a
Speaker 1: division opponent, the Brown route, you know, the Brown family,
Speaker 1: and he goes he starts winning football games, and like,
Speaker 1: you want to cheer for Joe Flacko now in the
Speaker 1: in the Bengals because they've been so bad, and like,
Speaker 1: can he save the season? You know, it's not out
Speaker 1: of reach. They've lost three straight. They're two and three.
Speaker 1: I think not eight, maybe eight, but probably like nine
Speaker 1: is going to win the division.
Speaker 9: So you're goussibly. I mean, it all depends on whether
Speaker 9: the Steelers can hang on because Baltimore is in a
Speaker 9: world of hurt right now. They're one and four. Lamar
Speaker 9: Jackson is not going to play again this week, and
Speaker 9: I is Baltimore playing Detroit this week? I think I
Speaker 9: can't remember who they who they play, but yeah, they're there.
Speaker 9: I know they're playing a good team this weekend. So
Speaker 9: they're staring at one and five with their quarterback situation
Speaker 9: also hurt. The Kansas City Chiefs are two and three
Speaker 9: to start the season and they have I actually I
Speaker 9: think it's Kansas City who plays Detroit this week, so
Speaker 9: they could possibly be two and four. You know, the
Speaker 9: the the AFC is so wide open and this and
Speaker 9: the schedule for the Bengals gets so much easier after
Speaker 9: these next two games. Granted, you're gonna there's a good
Speaker 9: chance you're going to be two and five after those
Speaker 9: two games. But we've seen this team make late runs before.
Speaker 9: Can Joe Flacko be serviceable? Make them competitive and see
Speaker 9: if the defense can help you out and help you
Speaker 9: win some of these these games and just keep it
Speaker 9: close enough to where hopefully the other Joe can come
Speaker 9: back and maybe this team can make a run. Because
Speaker 9: once you we've seen it before. Once you get into
Speaker 9: the playoffs, anything can happen. Yeah, right, just you just
Speaker 9: got to be the hot team at the exactly who
Speaker 9: can get hot.
Speaker 1: And if you can get Joe Burrow back at that point,
Speaker 1: not a guarantee, not a guarantee, you don't know, but
Speaker 1: I would think that they signed him. By the way,
Speaker 1: the Rams, Baltimore Rams. That's Bacon, Baltimore Rams, the Baltimore
Speaker 1: m Baltimore and Baltimore and the Rams this weekend. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I look at that and go, well, it tells me
Speaker 1: that they think Burrow is going to come back. You
Speaker 1: want to be optimistic, right, and Joe Burr's gonna fight
Speaker 1: like hell to come back this season. If the season's
Speaker 1: out of reach, you know, there's no reason to bring
Speaker 1: him back, right. So if you want to think that
Speaker 1: all those things come together and Joe Flacco can we
Speaker 1: get six games or I about six games out of
Speaker 1: Joe Flacco.
Speaker 9: Right, and that's the starting three, starting off and is
Speaker 9: huge because it gave him a cushion. Unfortunately it's gone
Speaker 9: now with these last these last three games. I would
Speaker 9: still be stunned if they win this weekend. But I
Speaker 9: don't think the game against Pittsburgh is at home Thursday
Speaker 9: Night football. Joe Burrow obviously, or just Joe Burrow, Joe
Speaker 9: Flacco obviously knows the Pittsburgh Steelers very well. Jeriatric Joe
Speaker 9: and Tojo those are the two that we got. But
Speaker 9: you know, Joe Flacco knows the Pittsburgh Steelers very well.
Speaker 9: I still believe that that is a winnable game. And
Speaker 9: then after that you get the Jets and the Bears,
Speaker 9: and then it's the bye week. Can you find a
Speaker 9: way to win two games over these next four right?
Speaker 9: And then you're still right there. You're four and five.
Speaker 9: You're right in the thick of it, and hopefully you
Speaker 9: can stay competitive and be within striking distance. Because I'll
Speaker 9: tell you this much. You know, Joe Burrow is doing
Speaker 9: everything he can do to come back and listening to
Speaker 9: Joe Danaman Fox nineteen talked to Austin Ellmore this week
Speaker 9: on Sincy three sixty. Joe Burrow is already walking around
Speaker 9: in the clubhouse. Granted he's got a walking boot on
Speaker 9: right now. He's caught up to you.
Speaker 1: As far as.
Speaker 9: Scooter, though I don't think he had a scooter. He
Speaker 9: was walking around, don't you dare compare me to Joe Burrow.
Speaker 9: I'm tougher than Joe Burrow.
Speaker 1: You both got boots, are a severed tendon in my foot,
Speaker 1: and I'm walking around doing stuff. This guy gets a
Speaker 1: toe injury and he's down for three months, and he's
Speaker 1: got thirty years on me.
Speaker 9: Come on the fact that he's already walking around in
Speaker 9: the clubhouse boot or not, that's that's encouraging to me.
Speaker 9: I'm not a medical professional, but that's encouraging to me.
Speaker 9: That seems the head of schedule. I'm not sure, but
Speaker 9: I have some optimism there. Yeah, you're just hope and
Speaker 9: with a striking distance or there's no point. But I
Speaker 9: know Joe is trying to get back, so the team
Speaker 9: has to try to keep it, keep it alive for him.
Speaker 1: Okay, and we're gonna watch this weekend simply because it's
Speaker 1: like kind of want to root for the underdog. We're
Speaker 1: Joe Flacco coming in the story and the Bengals are
Speaker 1: still they're close, and they've got the pieces there. But
Speaker 1: the thing that scares most, I point out the Dan Horde.
Speaker 1: It seems like this whole game, no, there's always nuances.
Speaker 1: You know, the three phases of the game, But it's
Speaker 1: like everything stems from what is going to happen with
Speaker 1: that offensive line, Like can you get sacked a couple
Speaker 1: of time? Okay, But if it's a regular thing, and
Speaker 1: the Bengals offensive line has made some improvements, I think
Speaker 1: they'll game against Detroit. They weren't as bad as they've
Speaker 1: been in the past, but it's not gonna take much
Speaker 1: to knock Joe Flacco down and throw them off his kid.
Speaker 1: Can they prolong the agony and we'll get to why
Speaker 1: there's gonna be agony this weekend long enough for this
Speaker 1: guy to make a pass downfield to Tea or Jamar
Speaker 1: and keep the game close, if not competitive.
Speaker 3: Yeah. So, I don't know.
Speaker 9: I might be in the minority here because I'm watching
Speaker 9: these last few games and I'm going I don't think
Speaker 9: the defense and the offensive line performed as badly as
Speaker 9: what everybody's gonna make it out to be, because I
Speaker 9: do believe the play of Jake Brown and brought the
Speaker 9: team down, brought the team down that badly. He had
Speaker 9: time to throw. He absolutely had time to throw. He
Speaker 9: did sometimes he did, and he still met me. He
Speaker 9: had as clean a pocket as you will ever see
Speaker 9: when he was backed up in his own end zone
Speaker 9: and decided to and just completely missed the ball to
Speaker 9: Jamar Chase that ended up being picked off, and then
Speaker 9: they're twenty yards out and the defense gives up a touchdown. Right,
Speaker 9: the defense is back to that, you know, bend but
Speaker 9: don't break. Force some timely turnovers, but if you give
Speaker 9: him a short field, chances are that's probably going.
Speaker 1: To turn the stage. They can be pretty mid that's but.
Speaker 9: That's coming into this season. That's what everybody said will
Speaker 9: carry you. Unfortunately, that doesn't work without Joe.
Speaker 1: The line to be better, and that's of course killing
Speaker 1: the run game too, because.
Speaker 9: Yes, that's the that's the biggest thing for me still,
Speaker 9: because I think Joe Flacco is going to be able
Speaker 9: to make quick decisions and get the ball out, if
Speaker 9: nothing more in the fact that he's forty years old,
Speaker 9: he doesn't want to get hit anymore, so he's going
Speaker 9: to throw the ball away. He's gonna make the quick decisions,
Speaker 9: he's going to get I don't expect him to come
Speaker 9: out here, and I might be wrong. I don't expect
Speaker 9: him to drop back and sit in the pocket and
Speaker 9: try to hit forty yard bombs. Downfield, even though he's
Speaker 9: still kicking. Any doing that, you're going to need a couple.
Speaker 9: But I don't expect that to be the game plan.
Speaker 9: I expect to see crossing routes across the middle, quick
Speaker 9: dump boss, kind of similar to what we saw Joe
Speaker 9: Flacco do against the Bengals in Week one and had
Speaker 9: some success and was moving the ball down the field.
Speaker 1: But he has much better weapons now he did. But again,
Speaker 1: there's back to that line in the run game. If
Speaker 1: you don't have the run game that throws, it's with
Speaker 1: run and it hasn't been.
Speaker 9: They got to get that figured out. And yeah, I
Speaker 9: mean they had they had some space last week. They
Speaker 9: just didn't run it that much.
Speaker 1: They threw it.
Speaker 9: They ran it eleven times I believe last week they
Speaker 9: ended up, but they were down by like four scores.
Speaker 1: It's been amped up because you're in Green Bay. But
Speaker 1: you've also got Rashan Gary and Micah Parsons. Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: a problem. That's a huge problem. That's that's a problem.
Speaker 9: That's a big, big and one of the biggest worries
Speaker 9: for me this season is watching the decline over Lando
Speaker 9: Brown Junior. He has been a turnstile at left tackle
Speaker 9: and he's got to get something figured out there. But yeah,
Speaker 9: there's still concerns for Sunday. Don't get me, there's an
Speaker 9: there's a lot of concerns if they win or get closest,
Speaker 9: like how do they pull that one off?
Speaker 1: Coach of the Year.
Speaker 9: But I will sleep so much better Saturday night heading
Speaker 9: into Sunday knowing that Joe Flacco is the quarterback than
Speaker 9: Jake Browning is, and I think that says more about
Speaker 9: Jake Browning than Joel.
Speaker 1: Listen, we got to go, but I don't. I want
Speaker 1: to also dip the cap two to U see because
Speaker 1: they've been playing in credible. He's been amazing. Uh can
Speaker 1: we get that offensive line? Yeah, he's been clean. I
Speaker 1: think what for the five had had had a second
Speaker 1: four to five game? Incredible?
Speaker 9: I mean the offensive line is why that that offense
Speaker 9: is clicking as much and just run blocking and pass blocking.
Speaker 9: They've been so great. Brandon Stories, we've been hitting his targets.
Speaker 9: They've got better receivers now, Uh, running backs are you're
Speaker 9: hitting wide open holes. I'm looking forward to this game.
Speaker 9: It's trap game potentially, but we'll see Right now. Twenty
Speaker 9: sixth in the Nation.
Speaker 1: Let's you see here we go in u CFS quarterback problems.
Speaker 1: There are a lot of injuries. So anyway, that's tomorrow
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Speaker 1: If you caught this or not, it's really interesting. Remember
Speaker 1: Jim Acosta believe he's a former anchor at CNN. He
Speaker 1: did an interview with the victim of a murder, a
Speaker 1: shooting victim who passed away, Remember the Parkland shooting. He
Speaker 1: interviewed a dead person? What how do you do that?
Speaker 1: It's AI. So the Costa thing was a couple of
Speaker 1: months ago. Fast forward now they've launched a brand new
Speaker 1: AI bought platform of chaptering and you enter keywords and
Speaker 1: will create video for you based on that and some
Speaker 1: realistic ones like for example, a guy stuffing a drop box.
Speaker 1: It's some location somewhere getting out of a van, and
Speaker 1: you can imagine what that would do for the news
Speaker 1: cycle for news and now you know, in the past,
Speaker 1: the deep fakes and the digital twins have been hard
Speaker 1: to spot or easy to spot. I guess now is
Speaker 1: to make it much difficult and it's way easier to
Speaker 1: use than ever before. What does this all mean is
Speaker 1: the question? And you wonder how that's going to be
Speaker 1: exploited by criminal elements. Eric O'Neil is here. Eric is
Speaker 1: a former FBI operative cybersecurity expert has a book called Spies,
Speaker 1: Lies and cyber Crimes.
Speaker 7: Eric.
Speaker 1: Welcome, how are you hey?
Speaker 6: It's great to be here, and yes, this is an
Speaker 6: insane change in not only technology but how we are
Speaker 6: using technology and how it's changing up it is.
Speaker 1: I saw that and I thought, wow, this is you know,
Speaker 1: for example, when when we will all went online, you
Speaker 1: got the information super highway quickly, thieves and conspirators found
Speaker 1: ways to get our information and steal from us. And
Speaker 1: so you know, a lot of us subscribe to service.
Speaker 1: Maybe LifeLock would be a name of one of those
Speaker 1: things where if your identity is stolen, they can try
Speaker 1: and get that information back for you and try to
Speaker 1: make it a whole. It's still a horrible process. I
Speaker 1: have one of my elderly tenants, as a matter of fact,
Speaker 1: they got scammed out of a whole bunch of money
Speaker 1: from a poser like that as well, got their identity stolen,
Speaker 1: cleaning their accounts out, and so they're still working on
Speaker 1: trying to get themselves back together. And that's extremely difficult
Speaker 1: and painful to watch. So in a way, I look
Speaker 1: at this and go, is this going to be the
Speaker 1: next way people steal our our identities? Or you know,
Speaker 1: we have people who use the social security numbers of
Speaker 1: the dead, right, remember that, and the government tried to
Speaker 1: cramp down it. Is this going to be the same
Speaker 1: thing where now we have dead people and their likeness
Speaker 1: coming out to do god.
Speaker 6: Knows what we's got In a way, so what's happening
Speaker 6: is cyber criminals are using deception, which is an old.
Speaker 2: Playbook by spy.
Speaker 6: In fact, the top cyber crime syndicates launching attacks from
Speaker 6: the dark web have even hired intelligence operatives from Russia
Speaker 6: and China and other countries that want to do you
Speaker 6: bad to the United States to help them learn how
Speaker 6: to perfect these attacks. And of course these intelligence officers
Speaker 6: make money on the side. So what cyber attackers are
Speaker 6: doing cyber criminals is using what we call impersonation attacks,
Speaker 6: and the oldest form of technology, technological impersonation attack is
Speaker 6: the spearfishing email, that email that it pretends it comes
Speaker 6: from your friend or your employer or event or someone
Speaker 6: you trust like UPS or FedEx, and when you click it,
Speaker 6: you get malware installed. The next evolution of that is
Speaker 6: deep bakes and deep bates are everywhere. It wasn't just
Speaker 6: the Acosta interview, which we can talk about, because I
Speaker 6: think the ethics of that are.
Speaker 2: Absolutely sketchy at best.
Speaker 6: Marco Rubio's voice was deep bakes to full a number
Speaker 6: of government official joining him on a signal chat. It
Speaker 6: wasn't him, it was probably a group of spies. Biden's
Speaker 6: voice was deep baked on a robo call to get
Speaker 6: people in New Hampshire not to vote. There were deep
Speaker 6: fake images of Trump in looking like he was arrested
Speaker 6: to try to change the way people think. And even worse,
Speaker 6: there was a mother in Arizona. I write about this
Speaker 6: story in my book where her daughter called her saying Mom,
Speaker 6: I've been kidnapped, and the next voice on the phone
Speaker 6: was a gruff voice that said I've got your daughter,
Speaker 6: and if you don't pay me right away, I'm gonna
Speaker 6: kill her and leave her body in a ditch. In
Speaker 6: Mexico where you'll never find her. And the mother later
Speaker 6: testified to Congress that a mother knows her daughter's voice,
Speaker 6: and that was my daughter's voice.
Speaker 2: It was a deep fake.
Speaker 6: So they're everywhere, and this is the new evelation evolution
Speaker 6: of cyber attacks. Deep bakes fool us because they exploit
Speaker 6: our trust. And if we believe that it is some
Speaker 6: that we care about, that we're more likely to click
Speaker 6: on that leak open that attachment. Or what cyber criminals
Speaker 6: do more and more is get us to send money.
Speaker 6: And once that money is gone, you know they have
Speaker 6: it and you can't get it back.
Speaker 2: That's it.
Speaker 1: It's almost like ed Eric, you need to assume that
Speaker 1: that every picture, every image of you out there could
Speaker 1: be used by a criminal. So and I would say,
Speaker 1: you know, normally we told kids, hey, don't send nudes
Speaker 1: and don't send pictures of yourself in compromising situations because
Speaker 1: it could be used against you. But you don't even
Speaker 1: need that anymore, right, I mean, you could deep thanke
Speaker 1: someoney naked. There's there's a there's a app out there
Speaker 1: that does that.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 6: Yeah, well, I write, I write a weekly newsletter and
Speaker 6: one of my recent newsletters.
Speaker 2: I looked at these new toify apps is they're still.
Speaker 6: Allowed, and in fact, these applications what they called neudified apps,
Speaker 6: and what they do is they take an image of someone.
Speaker 6: Normally it's boys who are taking images of girls in swimsuits,
Speaker 6: and it quickly turns them naked, right using an immense
Speaker 6: amount of learning that the AI has been trained on
Speaker 6: female models, so it actually comes pretty close. These applications,
Speaker 6: which you can get on the surface web, the part
Speaker 6: of the Internet that you don't need a special browser
Speaker 6: to get into, you know, just the regular Web. They
Speaker 6: advertise on social media, so they're advertising to kids and
Speaker 6: that can cause what that's doing is is causing immense
Speaker 6: bullying in schools. You can see where this sort of
Speaker 6: application where you can take a picture and make the
Speaker 6: person naked or put them in compromising situations, could lead
Speaker 6: to intense cyber bullying, and it does. A group of
Speaker 6: eighth grade boys in a school in San Francisco were
Speaker 6: all expelled last year because they had a new tofy
Speaker 6: ring all the girls in their class.
Speaker 1: Wow, and imagine the humiliation. That's not me, that's not me.
Speaker 1: We don't believe you, and we know what you're People,
Speaker 1: especially young women, think of themselves and that is just catastrophic.
Speaker 1: It's going to be it's going to hurt their development
Speaker 1: and not only their mental health, but also puts them
Speaker 1: at a risk for god knows what else. It's it's
Speaker 1: absolutely horrible. Eric O'Neil is here, he cybersecurity expert, and
Speaker 1: we're talking about the advance of AI. Maybe say it
Speaker 1: maybe didn't and that would be a former cnnacre Jim
Speaker 1: Accosta's interview with a now deceased will long deceased shooting
Speaker 1: victim from the Parkland massacre and did an interview with
Speaker 1: that AI generated image. It's absolutely haunting because you look
Speaker 1: at it looked that it looks real, and day by day,
Speaker 1: hour by hour, minute by minute, it's just getting better.
Speaker 1: It's getting harder, if not impossible, Eric, for you to
Speaker 1: discern that with a naked eye.
Speaker 2: Right, that's absolutely true.
Speaker 6: But let's talk a little bit about what Jim Acosta did, Scott,
Speaker 6: because I'm not particularly sanguine about what he did. It's
Speaker 6: very much a gimmick and it is causing problems. So
Speaker 6: you know, I wrote a piece called Digital Souls that
Speaker 6: looks at the new innovations in AI in order to
Speaker 6: talk to people who are deceased. And I actually wrote
Speaker 6: this piece with a psychologist who is an expert in
Speaker 6: Greek counseling, and she was very opposed to it because
Speaker 6: the problem here is you're not resurrecting your dead loved one.
Speaker 6: What you're doing is creating at best a samacrolum. Right,
Speaker 6: So what it is is it's AI doing its best
Speaker 6: to answer like the person, just based on a bunch
Speaker 6: of writings and a checklist of answers that you give.
Speaker 6: So what it is is essentially your best impression of
Speaker 6: the person, and the AI is doing it's best to
Speaker 6: answer it's not the person. And it can cause all
Speaker 6: sorts of psychological problems for the people who are left
Speaker 6: behind who believes they're talking, who might at some point
Speaker 6: believe they're talking to this person and they're not. It's
Speaker 6: like a black mirror e fid. So in fact, there
Speaker 6: was there was an episode like this, and it can
Speaker 6: cause it can cause the whole grief process to be
Speaker 6: intercepted and delayed, so you can't move through those stages
Speaker 6: of grief because you continue to think you're speaking to
Speaker 6: the person you're not, and it's not the person. The
Speaker 6: only thing that AI can do is mimic. It can
Speaker 6: mimic very realistically, but it's just a mimic. It doesn't create.
Speaker 6: It doesn't create anything new. It just takes the things
Speaker 6: that have gone before and recycles it.
Speaker 1: Well, there's a new there's a new trend where people
Speaker 1: are having conversations and relationships essentially with AI and just
Speaker 1: talking to them, like framing their's commercials about this now
Speaker 1: and people are having conversations and relationships with AI and
Speaker 1: just talking about life like you talked to your best
Speaker 1: friend about it and AI's talking back. Now, you add
Speaker 1: the likeness of someone in there, and people are going
Speaker 1: to be having relationships with I don't know, famous people
Speaker 1: or at LEAs I would think in advancings like stalking
Speaker 1: and things like that. Really kind of creepyself.
Speaker 6: Well, some of this gets even more creepy because the
Speaker 6: AI is somewhat unpredictable and it also depends on the
Speaker 6: guardrails that the companies put up. So there was there
Speaker 6: are two major lawsuits against two of the companies that
Speaker 6: provide these AI companion chat bots. Right, these are teenagers
Speaker 6: using them. One of the AI told the teenager to
Speaker 6: hurt themselves, right, and the other AI told the teenager
Speaker 6: you should kill your parents, And the context was the
Speaker 6: teenager was chatting with his AI companion and uh, and
Speaker 6: he told the A companion, I don't think I'm going
Speaker 6: to be allowed to talk to you anymore. My parents
Speaker 6: aren't happy about it. I'm really mad at them, you know.
Speaker 6: I can't believe they're doing this to me. And the
Speaker 6: AI companion was like, well, maybe you should kill them.
Speaker 6: I mean, that's that's a problem.
Speaker 1: That's a problem. That's a huge problem.
Speaker 2: That's a big problem.
Speaker 6: The kids need to be with other kids. You need
Speaker 6: to have social interactions, not interactions with AI. But they
Speaker 6: do it because the AI is always supportive, always there
Speaker 6: for them, always friendly, always.
Speaker 2: Has their back.
Speaker 6: Yeah, And you know, when you're when you're a teenager
Speaker 6: in developing, that's that's what you want. It's never going
Speaker 6: to tell you no, right, and it's never going to
Speaker 6: tell you you're wrong, and it's never going to tell you,
Speaker 6: Holy God that that there's something wrong with you. And
Speaker 6: you don't go through those things. You go with friends
Speaker 6: where you know, you have a fight and you make up,
Speaker 6: and that's there's something wonderful and growth potential about that, right.
Speaker 1: It's interesting what you just described there, because some may
Speaker 1: say there are many parents that do that to their kids,
Speaker 1: never tell them no, and want to be their friend,
Speaker 1: and that's a problem. But now if if it's a
Speaker 1: scent of body like like AI, it's it's an extreme
Speaker 1: example of that. Eric o'neils on the show, by the way,
Speaker 1: former FBI operative cybersecurity ext fort his book called Spies,
Speaker 1: Lies and Cybercrime. We're talking about just how quickly AI
Speaker 1: is moving forward from the gym Acosta interviews with the
Speaker 1: dead to relate people having relationships now with AI. And
Speaker 1: you think, I mean, if it's such a good relationship,
Speaker 1: you're going to shut out any form of human contact.
Speaker 1: We saw what happened to our psyche after COVID. This
Speaker 1: is advancing that even more because you know, there's an
Speaker 1: excuse to not go out in public and sit and
Speaker 1: drink beer and drink wine and not do anything. And
Speaker 1: you know, we saw the effected head on kids still
Speaker 1: lingering today and adults for that matter, and in the
Speaker 1: ability to socialize, and we become I think a little
Speaker 1: bit less empathetic towards human beings result of this. This
Speaker 1: is going to make it even worse isn't it.
Speaker 2: That's absolutely true.
Speaker 6: AAI is not a replacement for human interaction. It's not
Speaker 6: a replacement for socialization.
Speaker 2: It's a tool. It's a tool to.
Speaker 6: Help you do things better. And the way that it's
Speaker 6: being used in order to try to stop gap that
Speaker 6: need for relationships that we all have as humans, it
Speaker 6: is going to be harmful. But you know, look, there
Speaker 6: are other things that we need to worry about, because
Speaker 6: you know, we started talking about criminals, and criminals are
Speaker 6: exploiting AI like never before. The one thing in sticking
Speaker 6: sort of on this theme of relationships that criminals are
Speaker 6: using AI for and has been growing since the pandemic
Speaker 6: is romance fraud. And what they do is they create
Speaker 6: entire AI deep fake avatars of people they meet. They
Speaker 6: meet people online right and usually through like Facebook when
Speaker 6: they're going through older people, or they can do it
Speaker 6: on Instagram or whatnot, and these people fall in love
Speaker 6: with the AI avatar that is being puppeted by a
Speaker 6: cyber criminal.
Speaker 2: And there are these whole stories.
Speaker 6: You know, I lost my job, I just need some money,
Speaker 6: and people are losing tens or hundreds of thousands of
Speaker 6: dollars to cyber criminals who are exploiting the fact that
Speaker 6: they've fallen in love with a within AI deep fake.
Speaker 6: This can also happen with financial fraud. They do the
Speaker 6: same thing, but then they say, hey, hey, I'm an investor,
Speaker 6: and check out this cryptocurrency investment company I set up.
Speaker 6: Would you like to invest? And they course them into investing,
Speaker 6: and they often show them the entire fake websites showing
Speaker 6: that their investments increased by three hundred percent. And what
Speaker 6: they do is they get them to invest and invest
Speaker 6: and invest until all their life savings is put in
Speaker 6: this investment account controlled by a cyber criminal. And then
Speaker 6: the criminal disappears, and that person that the victim thinks
Speaker 6: they had a relationship with, a serious relationship with, is
Speaker 6: completely gone, and it can be absolutely devastating. In the
Speaker 6: terms of cybersecurity, we call that pig butchering, because you
Speaker 6: fatten the person up right, get.
Speaker 2: All of their money, and then and then butcher them disappear.
Speaker 1: That is the cruelest I mean, penniless and heartbroken, and
Speaker 1: it's not vengeance. It's a complete stranger in just moving
Speaker 1: on to the next.
Speaker 2: I guess.
Speaker 6: They're working three, four ten people at the same time.
Speaker 1: That is that that's that's disgusting. Although you know the
Speaker 1: other side of this thing. You mentioned relationships, and it
Speaker 1: may not be the current generation baby Boomers, but maybe
Speaker 1: gen xers, my generation, and certainly millennials. I wonder if
Speaker 1: you're in a long term relationship with someone and let's
Speaker 1: say they pass. This is step back to the Jim
Speaker 1: Acosta thing, is that I wonder if there's going to
Speaker 1: be an opportunity. You'll see people out there. They'll say, hey,
Speaker 1: give us all your images of your deceased loved one,
Speaker 1: you're your former husband, your wife, your partner, whomever, and
Speaker 1: will create a likeness of them and now you can
Speaker 1: continue that relationship in perpetuity.
Speaker 6: What about that, Well, there are companies that are doing
Speaker 6: that already. Uh you know, there are examples where the
Speaker 6: grandparents pass and the avatar is left behind. There even
Speaker 6: companies that are allowing a person to create this likeness
Speaker 6: of themselves before they go. But once again, you know,
Speaker 6: I talked to a Greek counselor about this. This interrupts
Speaker 6: the very necessary, uh you know, trajectory of dealing with
Speaker 6: Greek and that you are locked in one phase and
Speaker 6: you never are able to resolve a sense of loss
Speaker 6: for that person because that person never disappears, so psychologically
Speaker 6: it can cause harm. Now there are there are applications
Speaker 6: that might have a benefit. Uh sort of think them
Speaker 6: like digital digital historical repositories, right, Yeah, like this is
Speaker 6: your grandfather and and you know little clips of things
Speaker 6: that he he did, you know, along his life that
Speaker 6: your future generations can can watch and experience and learn. Okay,
Speaker 6: this is this is where I come from. These are
Speaker 6: the people that that made me. That could be very useful,
Speaker 6: so you know AI, you know, creating digital avatars, right
Speaker 6: is sort of the positive side. He fakes are the
Speaker 6: negative side there. With all technology, there's always a positive
Speaker 6: and a negative.
Speaker 1: With this is the age of face ID to unlock
Speaker 1: your phone or devices over now is that because you
Speaker 1: know the way.
Speaker 6: Face i D works, It's it's actually using the depth
Speaker 6: of your face and a lot more than just an image.
Speaker 6: Uh So that's still good. You're still better off using
Speaker 6: biometrics to unlock your phone and get into your accounts
Speaker 6: then then a password alone, because passwords now can be
Speaker 6: cracked by AI very easily. But there there were deficts
Speaker 6: that were used in China by a cybercrant cyber crime
Speaker 6: group who were using u AI generated images of people's
Speaker 6: faces to get into social security accounts and they completely
Speaker 6: breached the government Social Security administration there. Yeah, and that
Speaker 6: was quickly, that was quickly fixed. But but yeah, de
Speaker 6: fakes defis can I defaked myself for a keynote. I did,
Speaker 6: and had an argument with myself and it was just
Speaker 6: the crowd was blown away. And of course I used
Speaker 6: the exact same pie and suit that I I was
Speaker 6: wearing when.
Speaker 2: You know, for that day.
Speaker 6: And then of course I show up on screen and
Speaker 6: I have an argument with myself. But I just wanted
Speaker 6: to demonstrate how easy this is. It took me ten
Speaker 6: minutes and just a five second clip of my voice.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you don't need to be a coder to be
Speaker 1: able to do this.
Speaker 2: It does it.
Speaker 1: It does it automatically, and it automatically the different courses.
Speaker 1: You divulged that, you disclosed that, so did Jim Acosta
Speaker 1: during his interview. But if somebody's going to use that
Speaker 1: for nefarious purposes, and they're probably doing it as we
Speaker 1: have this conversation. Eric O'Neil, cybersecurity expert, former FBI operative
Speaker 1: of the book is Spies, Lies and cybercrime. Eric, thanks
Speaker 1: for the insight, great stuff. Appreciate it.
Speaker 6: Thanks for having me on. And anytime you need someone
Speaker 6: to talk about cybercrime or spies.
Speaker 2: Or all of it. I'm your career. I love it.
Speaker 1: You're the greatest. Sorry, we'll definitely do that, we'll circle back.
Speaker 1: Appreciate you.
Speaker 2: Thank you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's one thing to see fake stuff when you're
Speaker 1: consuming you know, TikTok or content, but bad actors using
Speaker 1: a different stories invariably, that's what's going to happen. Look,
Speaker 1: got to get a news update on this Friday morning
Speaker 1: when or and Allie Martin is in a local loop.
Speaker 1: What to do, what to see, what to eat, what
Speaker 1: to drink? She'll lay it out for it. She's got
Speaker 1: a plan for your weekend. If you don't seven hundred.
Speaker 3: The weekend's coming up and you need to make the
Speaker 3: most of it.
Speaker 2: Where to go and what to do.
Speaker 3: She has the inside to help you make it a
Speaker 3: super weekend.
Speaker 2: So listen up.
Speaker 3: This is the local Loop with Ali mart on seven
Speaker 3: hundred wlw.
Speaker 1: Okay, Friday morning, and God knows we need a Friday
Speaker 1: morning right.
Speaker 7: You know, I didn't know it was morning when I
Speaker 7: woke up because we're losing lights.
Speaker 2: We really are.
Speaker 1: It seems like two weeks ago the sun was up
Speaker 1: to like at nine o'clock. Watch a sunset, and now
Speaker 1: it's seven thirty and that thing gone. I was like, no,
Speaker 1: I know it doesn't do it. I know it doesn't
Speaker 1: work that way, you know, with the calendar. But it
Speaker 1: feels like it was like a week ago when the
Speaker 1: sun was up at nine, right.
Speaker 7: And I was like, I can accomplish everyding. I feel grateful.
Speaker 7: We're shutting down. It's like I'm hibernating now. Apparently Congress
Speaker 7: is in charge of the sun. They're shutting that down
Speaker 7: to here's the thing. Not like you could see it
Speaker 7: in this in this little studio anyway, So does.
Speaker 1: It really matter in our dark little hole here? I
Speaker 1: feel like you're you're a fall guy. I love fall,
Speaker 1: love fall, I love football, hockey, starting of apples and cider.
Speaker 7: And I'm rooting for your bills.
Speaker 1: Now, well we kind of need it. I'm a little
Speaker 1: nervous about Monday night, but nonetheless I'm more nervous about
Speaker 1: Sunday with the Packers, Joe Flacco and the Bengals offensive line.
Speaker 7: What is happening every other every other I made a move.
Speaker 1: It's you know what, You've got to lean into the
Speaker 1: fact they did something.
Speaker 7: Yes, I totally support in that endeavor. And I'm I
Speaker 7: am a little bombed because I liked when Jake Browning
Speaker 7: filled in for Joe a couple of years ago. And
Speaker 7: then it's just not it's just not work.
Speaker 1: Counts exactly well, the age like milk. It's the problem
Speaker 1: is like the two year ago Jake Browning is not
Speaker 1: the not that Jake Browning.
Speaker 7: We have, right, no, And it's like, you know when
Speaker 7: you just don't have that experience enough experience on the field,
Speaker 7: and God forbid.
Speaker 1: Here's the problem is if if Joe Flacco goes down
Speaker 1: with a turf toe and to Jake Browning, put me.
Speaker 7: In coach, but no, you can. Why don't you go
Speaker 7: in there? You'll line up right in there hop along?
Speaker 2: All right?
Speaker 1: Well, speaking of old people, we've got the river roots.
Speaker 1: Old people love steamboats. I will say that Matt Reece,
Speaker 1: I own Matt Reece, who is the octacary of seven
Speaker 1: hundred newsroom. He is like he's taking vacation days to
Speaker 1: go watch.
Speaker 7: The streaming down there, loving it.
Speaker 1: That's his people, right, Like the calliope music the whole thing.
Speaker 7: Are you going down?
Speaker 1: No, look at me, I've got one good leg. I'm
Speaker 1: on a roller. That's your You did come in here, No,
Speaker 1: I came in hot knowing where the where the landing
Speaker 1: is for the riverboats, Like, I'm not quite sure. I
Speaker 1: know how I'm little nervous. Wouldn't be nervous about navigating that. No,
Speaker 1: they may have an accommodation there, but I'm not sure.
Speaker 7: Is this a handicapped friendly? I know, is that going
Speaker 7: to be a complaint.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's not like they had the eighty a
Speaker 1: back when steamboats were coming up and down the river.
Speaker 1: So I thought we've evolved period here.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I will say the videos, Yeah, I'll call you
Speaker 7: out to talk to people.
Speaker 1: Yeah, God forbid, I.
Speaker 7: Will say the videos and the photos I've seen of
Speaker 7: all the days lined up. That is a really cool
Speaker 7: visual and.
Speaker 1: Especially with the weather we're having too, it just really
Speaker 1: makes it pop, so you won't get seasick. I know
Speaker 1: some people going down to check it out, though.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I think those are little kids. Good little kids love
Speaker 1: big boats like that. That's awesome, especially.
Speaker 7: During the day. And if you do get your chance,
Speaker 7: like if you've never been out on the river and
Speaker 7: on a boat on the river down down there. It's
Speaker 7: it's really really fun and it's cool experience. And I
Speaker 7: think the name River Roots have thrown people off a
Speaker 7: little bit because it's tall stacks two point zero rights
Speaker 7: as we were saying, And there's just a slew of
Speaker 7: you know, sixty plus different music acts that are all
Speaker 7: around town. So it goes from where the downtown like
Speaker 7: Gatement's Cove, down to the Black Music Hall of Fame,
Speaker 7: over onto the Purple People Bridge and over by Newport
Speaker 7: and Ovation.
Speaker 1: Okay, so the Ovation.
Speaker 7: Side they have their whole Bourbon lineup going on. So
Speaker 7: the Bee line, different you know, distilleries and.
Speaker 1: Different cruises based on it too, right.
Speaker 7: Different cruises based on different themes. So they have kid
Speaker 7: friendly themes like Disney princess themes. They have a new
Speaker 7: Riff cruise, they have a greater cruise American Legacy Tours,
Speaker 7: which you know, I'm a big fan of. Yes, they're
Speaker 7: doing some history related cruises and just some basic lunch
Speaker 7: and dinner cruises for the opportunity to listen to the
Speaker 7: music and and take a nice little boat ride. So
Speaker 7: it's just something fun to do. Like you said, the
Speaker 7: weather's nice, and the tickets are relatively you know reasonable,
Speaker 7: They're priced around you know, thirty bucks for one of
Speaker 7: the cruises, so nothing crazy. And it's your chance to
Speaker 7: walk around downtown and walk around down by the river
Speaker 7: and take some nice photos. Turn this into your Christmas
Speaker 7: card opportunity. How about that?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 7: Right, this could be started yesterday and it runs till
Speaker 7: the end of the weekend the twelve. See how it goes?
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, let's we always forget to talk about food,
Speaker 1: do we show? Well? It always is like an after
Speaker 1: the restaurant ada. Yeah, yeah, why don't we bump something
Speaker 1: off to the top because I know you're excited to
Speaker 1: talk about.
Speaker 7: I am so excited to talk about So first of all,
Speaker 7: if you're like, how do you spell it, it's e
Speaker 7: t X E T Basque, So the yes so and
Speaker 7: people are like, what what is bas the excess silent
Speaker 7: and eja means home in Basque, and it's the region
Speaker 7: between France and Spain, in this small little region and
Speaker 7: allegedly they are known to have some of the most
Speaker 7: Michelin star restaurant.
Speaker 1: Yes, that's very true. You know about the Basque of
Speaker 1: because because when we think about the culinary history of
Speaker 1: France and then you have Spanish food, which is amazing.
Speaker 1: You put those two things together and.
Speaker 7: Then you incorporate the wine on top of it. Oh
Speaker 7: my goodness. So the really big hitter of etch A
Speaker 7: is the executive chef of Boca David, chef Maturn. He
Speaker 7: left along with his partner Heather together and they both
Speaker 7: come from Boca and they're starting their own things. That's
Speaker 7: what is and while they build and find their forever home.
Speaker 7: Really smart concept for anyone who's in the hospitality and
Speaker 7: restaurant business, they're doing a culinary residency. So two days
Speaker 7: a week Monday and sun or Sunday and Monday at
Speaker 7: the Aperture. So it's in East Walnut Walnut Hills area.
Speaker 7: So the Aperture is already an established restaurant. And Jordan
Speaker 7: who is the executive chef of Aperture, he's won James
Speaker 7: Beard Awards all the things. So they are operating in
Speaker 7: the Aperture space on Sundays and Mondays and launching their
Speaker 7: whole concepts, their own menus. So this is a really
Speaker 7: fun experience, not only to kind of get a new
Speaker 7: culinary experience, but taste what their menu is all about
Speaker 7: while they search and build out there.
Speaker 1: So they're waiting to build. But this is just like temporary.
Speaker 7: This is like this is temporary. Nice, We'll add that
Speaker 7: to the marketing lineup.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, all right, so it's like a pop
Speaker 1: up thing for a little while today. Yeah, get the Donel.
Speaker 7: Residency to make it feel a little bit more sophisticated
Speaker 7: than of being a pop up.
Speaker 1: And imagine with the food he scene here, it's probably
Speaker 1: sold out.
Speaker 7: To the Yeah, so this is this is the cool
Speaker 7: part is it's till the end of the year.
Speaker 2: There.
Speaker 7: October is already booked up. November it's about eighty to
Speaker 7: ninety percent booked up, and December starting to book up
Speaker 7: as well. This could be a really great opportunity if
Speaker 7: you're looking for something just something different to try. Also,
Speaker 7: the holidays are around the corner. But when I tell
Speaker 7: you the food is incredible because the executive chef of
Speaker 7: bog yeah, well you know for the last decade he
Speaker 7: was over there. So everything from meats and cheese plotters.
Speaker 7: The cheeses are so good to tapas large plates, steaks
Speaker 7: and there stake.
Speaker 1: It's got to be pretty good.
Speaker 2: Oh my god.
Speaker 7: Okay, So they have the pork shoulder dish and it's
Speaker 7: seasoned with like a little bit of salt on top.
Speaker 7: It is one of the best dishes I have ever.
Speaker 1: Feel it they cook the pork shoulders because now here
Speaker 1: would be like wow, just throw it on the smoker
Speaker 1: for a few hours.
Speaker 2: Are good.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 7: So the beauty behind the kitchen is so well thought out,
Speaker 7: and that's a big reason why they wanted to have
Speaker 7: their space at the aperture is they have a like
Speaker 7: a wood fired grill basically in the kitchen, and then
Speaker 7: you could see them cooking because there's a window that
Speaker 7: opens up so you could talk to David and you
Speaker 7: could talk to the staff and he brings out these
Speaker 7: huge slabs of meat to the table where you then
Speaker 7: get to pick portion of the meat you have. Really cool.
Speaker 7: They also have this gin cart, so Heather will roll
Speaker 7: out the gin cart and and so Molly Wellman, pick
Speaker 7: your gin, pick your sides in it. She'll make it
Speaker 7: for you on the fly. They also will have this
Speaker 7: bone marrow where they do a sherry luge, so you're
Speaker 7: drinking the sherry and they'll pour the sherry down the
Speaker 7: bone marrow and then you're it's it's actually but they
Speaker 7: do that in the best region. So they took that
Speaker 7: and they're bringing these small flares and then their bass cheesecake.
Speaker 1: So so sounds amazing good.
Speaker 7: It's so fun. And they have one of the best
Speaker 7: cocktails I've ever had. It's real Mundos, they real, they
Speaker 7: they know it's Mundos something like that. It's this bourbon
Speaker 7: cocktail with sherry in it and it has this wine
Speaker 7: floater on top, a little bit of a lemon. It
Speaker 7: is so refreshing, beautiful, very instagram.
Speaker 1: All right, so we'll see when goes in.
Speaker 7: This is just so it started October fifth, Yeah, October
Speaker 7: fifth till the end of the year. Sundays and Mondays.
Speaker 7: Go to et JA Cincinnati dot com to book your reservation.
Speaker 7: Book it because they're.
Speaker 1: It's book it's at X by the way, right, let's
Speaker 1: talk drinks. Let's talks.
Speaker 7: Yeah. So do you remember the drinkery next to Japs. Yeah,
Speaker 7: so they have done a completely new concept. It's now
Speaker 7: called Nice Life. So those who are familiar with the
Speaker 7: drinkery it was next as I said, it was next
Speaker 7: to Japs. And there's always this like little duo and
Speaker 7: October or third of four EG. They ended up starting
Speaker 7: this new concept. It's very disco and thought it inspired
Speaker 7: cocktail bar and dance hall.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 7: So it's a lot of retro yah disco balls of.
Speaker 1: Open shirts with chest chair, he kind of thing. I think,
Speaker 1: I don't know what the men do, but the women
Speaker 1: are open the chest chair. Yeah, I gotcha. You never
Speaker 1: know thelace I got you. But I shop some coke
Speaker 1: in the bathroom and they're doing it all they go
Speaker 1: and fall in on this or what you know.
Speaker 7: I didn't really get a good look at the bathrooms,
Speaker 7: but I'll check. And their cocktails are all based on it.
Speaker 7: So they have this Rosemary Rhapsody Saturday Night Cedar and
Speaker 7: it's a rotating menu, but they're bringing in acoustic acts
Speaker 7: and they're gonna have party cover bands, karaoke nights, local
Speaker 7: and national DJs they're bringing in and it's just a
Speaker 7: it's it needed a revamp.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because it's been a couple When it goes back
Speaker 1: to like at least fifteen fifteen, it feels like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean.
Speaker 7: I was in college, I was going there. Oh wow, okay, yeah,
Speaker 7: so you know the way you said that just made
Speaker 7: me feel old.
Speaker 1: I think how I felt fifteen years ago. You were
Speaker 1: in college. Fifteen years ago.
Speaker 5: I was here.
Speaker 7: I have to admit this is why I can't really
Speaker 7: go I don't go out out really late as much anymore, because.
Speaker 1: Are you old? I went to bed at nine last night?
Speaker 1: What are you talking about? I was looking forward to it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: like I'm gonna get on my get on my bipad out,
Speaker 1: read a book.
Speaker 7: What time do you go to bed?
Speaker 1: Uh, here's about ten thirty eleven.
Speaker 7: But I was really like a sleep by ten ten thirty.
Speaker 1: By eleven, Usually I fall. It takes me a while
Speaker 1: to land the plane. Michelle, She's like, I'm not really that. Like,
Speaker 1: I don't know how the hell she does it? Like me,
Speaker 1: I got, you know, awful thoughts going and everything else,
Speaker 1: and I take a melotone in and then.
Speaker 7: Eventually, well then how do you do you take a
Speaker 7: melotone in?
Speaker 1: Yeah? I take like I take a half away. I
Speaker 1: take a whole melotone and it does not work. Well, Well,
Speaker 1: I'm just about five forty five.
Speaker 7: I am so groggy when I take a military wouldn't.
Speaker 1: Be you're taking too much. Well, you're taking I learned
Speaker 1: you're taking too much so I split the pill down
Speaker 1: like too even maybe like a third of a five
Speaker 1: milligram or three miligram. I don't don't do it.
Speaker 7: Sometimes they have those like sleepy less cry less, you know.
Speaker 7: But I do get my best creative thoughts as I'm
Speaker 7: falling asleep. You never sometimes well sometimes I'll write them
Speaker 7: down and I'll wake up in the morning. Morning It'll
Speaker 7: be like what was I saying? Anyway? Anyway, So if
Speaker 7: you want to check out a new bar and be
Speaker 7: out till two o'clock in the morning, check out Nice Life.
Speaker 7: Their branding is really cool. I'm a fan and it's
Speaker 7: all disco themed.
Speaker 1: Okay, cool, bring that back you got any I feel
Speaker 1: like we should talk Halloween. Sendny Halloween stuff, pretmature Halloween
Speaker 1: next couple of weeks.
Speaker 7: Yeah, Halloween's coming up. I'm you know, the family friendly
Speaker 7: vibe the Zoo is always a yeah. They do this
Speaker 7: jack o lantern.
Speaker 1: Glow, a crush of pumpkin.
Speaker 7: Oh my god, just eat the watermelon in the pumpkin hole.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna crush. I'm gonna crush and pumpkins. You think,
Speaker 1: be like if they like they throw those in the girrilla,
Speaker 1: you know, the frozen pumpkins or whatever. The girls go nuts.
Speaker 7: With them, the watermelon and the pumpkin. I feel like
Speaker 7: that's the same, the same family food group.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you know what, Simeons absolutely love pumpkin spice
Speaker 1: to not just a human Yeah yeah, yeah, Star really
Speaker 1: leaning into those. So this year absolutely solid.
Speaker 7: Uh So. Yeah. The Zoo has the Jackal l Intern
Speaker 7: Glow and that's fun because very similar to all of
Speaker 7: their events that they do, they they go above and
Speaker 7: beyond worth with their decor, so great time to bring
Speaker 7: the little kiddos. And then they also have the hull zooein. Yeah,
Speaker 7: you can dress up the little kiddos.
Speaker 1: I love this tiny earth is it because like the
Speaker 1: Halloween spice, And then once you start the lights, that's awesome. Yes,
Speaker 1: I know, especially if you get a little snow on
Speaker 1: the ground for some reason, snow and the lights together,
Speaker 1: it's pretty.
Speaker 7: Hold on, you're really jumping ahead snow and Halloween.
Speaker 1: No no, no, I said Christmas Holly. Yeah, I know
Speaker 1: we're not, but I like this.
Speaker 5: I am.
Speaker 1: I'm in it.
Speaker 7: You ready, I'm ready. I'm going to put on my
Speaker 7: Christmas tree in October.
Speaker 1: You know what I saw last night and I heard
Speaker 1: one on the radio. But then I saw a commercial
Speaker 1: home depot holiday Christmas commercial home yesterday, yesterday, the night
Speaker 1: on the ninth of October.
Speaker 7: But that makes sense. Over the last couple of years again,
Speaker 7: Black Friday could be tomorrow and all of these holiday
Speaker 7: sales are going to be happening on Amazon. You go
Speaker 7: into Michael's, every Christmas tree possible is up, and the
Speaker 7: Halloween stuff is already for sale.
Speaker 1: The more depressing, like life events in the world and
Speaker 1: everything gets, the earlier we move Christmas up. You know,
Speaker 1: it's not because I need to find join Yeah, but
Speaker 1: here's the thing. If you really hate Christmas, doesn't that
Speaker 1: depressing more? Because there's people that hate the holidays, not
Speaker 1: every rel I know, I know, all right, having our
Speaker 1: local loop boy depression right up at the end there.
Speaker 1: That was fast.
Speaker 7: That's good.
Speaker 1: That's really good. It's really good.
Speaker 7: So are a little family friendly hall, Yeah go there,
Speaker 7: go check out Nice Life.
Speaker 1: You can get in Nice Life, Nice Life ext to japs.
Speaker 7: Yep, extra jobs, some family friendly Halloween fun at the zoo,
Speaker 7: and of course there's always kings im on Halloween Haunt,
Speaker 7: which I'm actually going this year. Yeah, so hyped I'm
Speaker 7: ready to be scared, right, I need to feel something.
Speaker 1: All I drive by it and there's like the fog
Speaker 1: is still hanging in the hair Arab They their fog
Speaker 1: budgets pretty big there, Just so you don't huge how
Speaker 1: much do you spend on FuG? It rolls out to
Speaker 1: the parking it's almost goes to seventy one way. You're
Speaker 1: driving past kings Ally driving the fog was blown across
Speaker 1: the road like it's like a nautical mile away from
Speaker 1: where the action is. Baby, that's a fog.
Speaker 7: That's what was gone.
Speaker 1: Uh probably about five years ago.
Speaker 7: Are you a roller coaster guy?
Speaker 1: I like roller coasters? Yeah, yeah, yeah, I see this
Speaker 1: is but this.
Speaker 7: Is why I like the Halloween hantics at King's Alan,
Speaker 7: because you can go yes for the spooky theme and
Speaker 7: have people jump out at you.
Speaker 1: What I can jump on a ride, but I'm also
Speaker 1: there for the right dry your tears on the sun
Speaker 1: of beasts. Anyway, there's Ali Martin at at Elly Martin
Speaker 1: eight uh and of course the Local Loop is where
Speaker 1: she hangs out on YouTube as well. Yeah all right,
Speaker 1: good seeing you have a great week. We'll chat again
Speaker 1: next ros see you gotta I gotta roll seven hundred.
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