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Speaker 1: It's Night Side with Dan Ray.

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Speaker 2: I'm w BZY, Boston's new radio.

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Speaker 1: Thank your thanks very much, Dan Watkins. As we move

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Speaker 1: into the ten o'clock hour here, I want to thank

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Speaker 1: again Bill Martin, who just as a wonderful guest and

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Speaker 1: somebody who always enjoyed having him on the program. And

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Speaker 1: we had to do that make up from December, so

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Speaker 1: actually a gift to all of us. So thank you,

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Speaker 1: Bill Martin, and thanks for the callers as well. Sorry

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Speaker 1: that we kind of got jammed up at the end,

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Speaker 1: but that's that's the way it sometimes happens, all right.

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Speaker 1: So yesterday down into Washington, d C. In front of

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Speaker 1: the National Press Club, my favorite Democrat say that with

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Speaker 1: tongue planted firmly in cheek. Elizabeth Warren, who's been invited

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Speaker 1: on this program many times and has never chose to

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Speaker 1: make an appearance, which is her right, absolutely made a

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Speaker 1: speech which I actually agree with. Now you're gonna those

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Speaker 1: of you who have fainted, please I hope someone revives you.

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Speaker 1: She talked about the future of the Democratic Party, and

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Speaker 1: it was I thought remarkably honest, and I guess what

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Speaker 1: I would expect from Elizabeth Warren. I hope she runs

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Speaker 1: for president. She didn't do she didn't do especially well

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Speaker 1: in twenty twenty, not only here in Massachusetts but across

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Speaker 1: the nation. However, times change, and she is very proud

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Speaker 1: of the progressive instincts of the Democratic Party. And I

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Speaker 1: think that it would be a great presidential race when

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Speaker 1: it comes time for that presidential race to have someone

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Speaker 1: like Elizabeth Warren to be wonderful if if Elizabeth Warren

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Speaker 1: was the candidate, I don't know that she she will

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Speaker 1: be to talk about issues that I think are important

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Speaker 1: to Democrats, and that is increasing taxes. Wealth taxes on

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Speaker 1: people who have been successful is now one of the

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Speaker 1: new impulses within the Democratic Party. Private property is under

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Speaker 1: attack in New York City. The one one of the

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Speaker 1: new cabinet members of the new Mayor of New York City,

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Speaker 1: On Mandami, has made it clear that private ownership is

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Speaker 1: is somehow a vestige of white male privilege, which I

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Speaker 1: don't understand because I think that one of the great

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Speaker 1: things about capitalism is that there there are people who

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Speaker 1: who make money and there are people who lose money. Uh,

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Speaker 1: And that's someone once said, you know, capitalism is the

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Speaker 1: worst economic system that a country can be can be

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Speaker 1: governed by, except all the others capitalism. There there are

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Speaker 1: people who are are able to literally go from rags

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Speaker 1: to riches if they work hard or if they invent

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Speaker 1: something that that the public wants. Doesn't happen under a

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Speaker 1: lot of other situations. Open borders, that was a hallmark

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Speaker 1: of the Biden administration. I think that they Democrats might

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Speaker 1: have to respond to that inflation, which has been down

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Speaker 1: during the first term. Of the second term, I should

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Speaker 1: say of the Trump administration. You know, people, look all

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Speaker 1: of this, all of these issues are there. So I

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Speaker 1: just want to give you a little sense of what

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Speaker 1: the Senator had to say yesterday, and I want to

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Speaker 1: get your reaction to it. If you agree with her,

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Speaker 1: here we go. This is cut forty five. The Senator

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Speaker 1: is talking about the whole question of the progressive wing

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Speaker 1: the Democratic Party. You have some more centrist Democrats like

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Speaker 1: Governor Shapiro and Senator Fetterman down in Pennsylvania. But this

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Speaker 1: is a clarion call to the Democratic left. Yesterday at

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Speaker 1: the National Press Club by our senior Senator Elizabeth Warren

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Speaker 1: cut forty five. Please Rob.

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Speaker 3: None of this would be happening if Democrats hadn't been

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Speaker 3: wiped out in twenty twenty four. And according to some

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Speaker 3: self described experts, Democrats lost power because we were too

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Speaker 3: progressive for a lot of powerful people, wealthy people from

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Speaker 3: Wall Street, Silicon Valley, and Washington. Too progressive is code

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Speaker 3: used to undermine any economic agenda that favors working people.

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Speaker 3: Look they put it more politely, But these movers and

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Speaker 3: shakers want the Democratic Party to respond to the twenty

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Speaker 3: twenty four losses by watering down our economic agenda and

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Speaker 3: sucking up to the rich and powerful, claiming that a

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Speaker 3: less progressive Democratic Party will win more elections.

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Speaker 1: They are wrong, often mistaken, but never in doubt. That

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Speaker 1: should be the campaign slogan for Elizabeth Warren again. Do

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Speaker 1: you think the Democratic Party should follow her advice? Her

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Speaker 1: would love to see a very clear choice between socialism

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Speaker 1: and or communism. Maybe she could run for president, get

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Speaker 1: the nomination, and perhaps a mayor Mandami Mandami of New

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Speaker 1: he will be old enough. He's I think thirty four,

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Speaker 1: more here and then I want to hear from my

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Speaker 1: listeners on this one. This again is her a clarion

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Speaker 1: call to Democrats to do the left thing, not the

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Speaker 1: right thing, but to do the left thing. And as

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Speaker 1: Horace Greeley said, go west, young man, Elizabeth Warren is

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Speaker 1: telling the Democrats to go left, young men and young

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Speaker 1: women cut twenty seven up.

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Speaker 3: Democrats weren't always just the default option when the other

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Speaker 3: guys were worse. Once we were trusted by working people

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Speaker 1: There is not an economic system that has produced more

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Speaker 1: wealth across a broader spectrum of people. Do we have

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Speaker 1: some billionaires, Absolutely absolutely, and many of those those billionaires

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Speaker 1: have been supporters of Elizabeth Warren in the past. But obviously,

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Speaker 1: as influential as a billionaire can be financially, thank goodness,

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Speaker 1: they only have the number of votes that they and

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Speaker 1: their family control. But again, Elizabeth Warren wants the Democratic

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Speaker 1: Party to be a clear choice. And I think that's

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Speaker 1: actually a very good position. I think it's a good instinct.

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Speaker 1: I think that Americans should not be confused. They should

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Speaker 1: be able to vote whatever again, whatever party appeals to them.

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Speaker 1: More one more SoundBite here, and this is Senator Warrant

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Speaker 1: again exhorting Democrats, and she specifically mentions Mandami, who would

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Speaker 1: I think be a wonderful running mate for Elizabeth Warren

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Speaker 1: cut forty six, rob.

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Speaker 3: We are not short on good ideas and to win,

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Speaker 3: every Democrat should be proposing concrete plans for lowering costs.

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Speaker 3: Sah Mamdani came from nowhere and took down a political dynasty.

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Speaker 3: How he ran a campaign tightly focused on the cost

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Speaker 3: freeze the rent, and deliver no cost childcare.

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Speaker 1: If it's free, it's for me. Free buses, free rent,

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Speaker 1: free everything, free childcare. Again, someone's got to pay for it.

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Speaker 1: But I think this is this should be the platform

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Speaker 1: to you? Would it? Could it pull you back? Yesterday,

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Speaker 1: be open. Again, you have our numbers. All you have

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Speaker 1: for someone. I say, let's have at it. Let's give

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Speaker 1: the American people a clear choice, simple as that, and

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Speaker 1: let us then support whichever party prevails for three or

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Speaker 1: Back on Nightside right after this, It's Nightside with.

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Speaker 1: Interestingly enough, the Globe Today covered the speech that Senator

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Speaker 1: Warren gave yesterday, with naryan mentioned. They focused totally totally

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Speaker 1: on the dustop between Fed Chair Powell and Warren's criticisms

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Speaker 1: of that. In the tele phone call follow up call

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Speaker 1: that apparently President Trump had with Senator Warren. He called

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Speaker 1: her and I guess there was some agreement on doing

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Speaker 1: something on credit cards. Anyway, let's get to the calls

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Speaker 1: my friend Ken and Waltham, who is a Democrat. Ken,

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Speaker 1: I'm going to be fascinated as to what you think

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Speaker 5: Well, let me try this first. Dan.

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Speaker 6: You've often talked about how those on the left can

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Speaker 6: never find anything positive to say about Donald Trump. I

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Speaker 6: think perhaps you know you have Elizabeth Warren derangement syndrome

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Speaker 6: as why actually I don't.

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Speaker 5: Have much positive to say about her. And I think

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Speaker 5: the other thing.

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Speaker 1: Well, I will tell you what I had dinner about

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Speaker 1: a year and a half ago one night with Senator Markey,

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Speaker 1: and at the end of the dinner I reminded him

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Speaker 1: that he still was my favorite senator from Massachusetts, although

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Speaker 6: Yeah, and I agree with you on that, I do.

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Speaker 6: But you know, let me let me just say this

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Speaker 6: was going to be a Democrat. Are you saying you'd

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Speaker 6: rather have Elizabeth Lauren than say, maybe Ay Forsheers Kintuchy

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Speaker 6: or Josh Shapiro of Pennsylvania. You know what I mean?

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Speaker 5: You know I am. I am still a registered Republican because.

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Speaker 1: I well, you're you're a bunch that's a small tribe

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Speaker 5: Wow.

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Speaker 6: Well, I voted for and why because I you know,

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Speaker 6: I didn't want to vote in the Democratic primary. I

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Speaker 6: could have been an independent and voted in the Republican memory,

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Speaker 6: but I voted for you know, Nikki Hayleys, because I

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Speaker 1: Sure, you could resort and by the way, you could

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Speaker 1: back to unenrolled automatically. You do not have to maintain

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Speaker 7: So you know, you know that that I just want

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Speaker 7: to mention I do well, I you know, I had

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Speaker 7: forgotten that when I registered the Republican but one of

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Speaker 7: the one of the other strange benefits of the Republican

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Speaker 7: It's only happened once, but I have had some interesting

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Speaker 6: So anyway, the only the only point I'll make, because Dan,

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Speaker 6: you and I share the you know, shame opinion of

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Speaker 6: a little bit Warren pretty much is I would only

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Speaker 6: everyone to hope that the best candidate for America represents

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Speaker 6: their party in twenty twenty eight, you know, in the

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Speaker 6: presidential license.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, assume she is not from your perspective. I know it.

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Speaker 1: She's not.

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Speaker 5: I done, yeah right now.

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Speaker 6: And Shapiro shears you know maybe, but real outsider could

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Speaker 6: be Spanberger. I think it's probably too early for her.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: There are some great Democrats out there and great Republicans.

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Speaker 1: All right, Ken, thanks very much. It's always always great

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Speaker 1: to hear your voice. We'll talk soon, Okay, Happy New Year,

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Speaker 1: Thank you, thank you much. Let me go next to

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Speaker 1: Paul in Monson, Massachusetts. I know where Monson is. It's

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Speaker 1: in the central part of the state. Paul, you Sally,

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Speaker 1: it might be outside. How are you tonight.

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Speaker 8: Oh no, I'm fine, yeah, Dan, yeah, right there, right

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Speaker 8: there in the Stafford, Connecticut line. So, oh yeah, another

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Speaker 8: That's what we need to spend our efforts on constantly,

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Speaker 8: Come on, Dan, you're not. This is why I'm so glad,

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Speaker 8: Like you know, I'm a truck driver. I'd love to

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Speaker 8: It's not going to get any better, and the housing

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Speaker 1: We'll call more often. I enjoyed the conversation and you

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Speaker 8: I appreciate, appreciate that.

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Speaker 8: Okay, Happy New Year.

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Speaker 1: By now, Happy new Year to you too. Good night.

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Speaker 1: Back to the phones we go talking about Senator Elizabeth Warren.

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Speaker 1: Senator Elizabeth Warren's clarion called other Democrats to go hard left.

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Speaker 1: Let me go to Harvey Silverglade. Harvey, welcome back, How

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Speaker 5: Happy new year, Happy new Year, Dan. Although it may

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Speaker 5: not be happy new Year, this is the Elizabeth Warrens

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Speaker 5: of the world. Prevail. The problem. The problem with the

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Speaker 10: Is it is it has been taken over by the progressives.

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Speaker 5: It used to be a.

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Speaker 10: Traditional liberal party, which is a party of the left,

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Speaker 5: We now have.

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Speaker 10: A fascist president being challenged by a socialist senator.

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Speaker 5: It's a disaster. Well has to happen. The only way

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Speaker 5: Democratic Party and the Dwight Eisenhower types to regain power

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Speaker 5: in the Republican Party. The demo country will regain its sanity.

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Speaker 5: That's my view.

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Speaker 1: Well, I'm pretty close to that view Harvey as well,

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Speaker 5: Well, if she was sent back to Harvard, the whole

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Speaker 1: I agree with you. I agree.

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Speaker 5: Is the thing about Harvard is at least a few

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Speaker 1: In most cases, Harvey, thank you was always great to

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Speaker 1: hear your voice, and let's have many conversations. In twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty six, Thank you, my friend.

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Speaker 5: Right over, Dan about you soon.

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Speaker 1: Good night to go next to Mike in Plymouth. Hey, Mike,

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Speaker 1: you are next on night side. Harvey silver Glate, tough

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Speaker 11: He took the words right out of my mouth. Dan,

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Speaker 11: I heard you take his call, and I was like, oh,

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Speaker 11: this is going to be tough to follow. Great great

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Speaker 11: isn't he on the law school at Harvard at Harvard

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Speaker 2: Sure it was Elizabeth Warren.

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Speaker 1: Well, I don't know that Harvey has a tenured status,

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Speaker 11: Well, I'm going to take a wild guess and say

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Speaker 2: Whether it was one eighteenth or whatever it was.

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Speaker 11: I mean never aside from her policies that I disagree with.

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Speaker 1: I think you nailed it. You know what she reminds

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Speaker 11: She's such an elitist and she pretends to represent working people.

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Speaker 1: Well, I mean he ran against her in twenty twelve

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Speaker 5: Uh.

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Speaker 1: So there were a lot of people who voted for

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Speaker 1: both President Obama and Senator around So. Well, we will

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Speaker 1: see as always mike him.

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Speaker 11: Brown got elected with the cart jacket and the pickup truck.

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Speaker 11: I I just don't understand how more people didn't relate

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Speaker 11: to him like that. That was a brilliant campaign strategy

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Speaker 11: on his product.

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Speaker 1: Well, it was also who he was also no, no, no,

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Speaker 1: but but it's also who Scott Brown was. I mean,

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Speaker 1: that's Scott Brown. A lot of people real he's It's real.

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Speaker 1: He was a he was a selectman, he was a

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Speaker 1: state representative. He was a state senator from from when

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Speaker 1: from Wenham? Uh at not Whenham? Excuse we rent them

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Speaker 1: and uh And he was genuine.

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Speaker 11: He was a guy who grew up in great daughter

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Speaker 11: that played basketball at PC and you know, just you know.

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Speaker 1: Wife Gail, how he was. He was a Massachusetts institution.

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Speaker 1: She comes in and remember when she did the video

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Speaker 1: with the husband. I think I'm gonna get me a

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Speaker 1: beer like that. She had trouble finding the refrigerator.

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Speaker 11: It was so ridiculous. It's like, you're really gonna believe

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Speaker 11: that that, you know, she's gonna sit down with her

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Speaker 11: husband and have a beer in the kitchen. No she drinks,

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Speaker 11: you know, shardonay out of us.

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Speaker 1: You know, come on, all right, I gotta let you go.

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Speaker 1: Thanks Mike. Is always great to hear your vice. Happy

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Speaker 1: New Year. Hope to hear from you many times this year.

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Speaker 5: Okay, thanks Dan, talking to you about.

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Speaker 1: Six one, seven, two, five, four, ten, thirty that's the

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Speaker 1: only line that's open. Coming right back on night Side.

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Speaker 3: Hold on a second, I'm gonna get me.

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Speaker 10: A beer.

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Speaker 11: You're on night Side with Dan Ray.

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Speaker 4: I'm w Boston's News Radio.

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Speaker 1: Back we go. Let's go down to oh DC Patrick

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Speaker 1: checking in from DC. Hey Patrick, welcome back, How are

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Speaker 1: you well?

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Speaker 4: Thank you, Happy new Year. And this might be a

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Speaker 4: good year for me with the Night's Side, because this

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Speaker 4: is one of the first times that I said in

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Speaker 4: an email and it happened to hit the topic with

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Speaker 4: the nail on the head on that one.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I was thinking about you a little bit. I

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Speaker 1: was thinking about you a little bit. Yeah, go right ahead.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I lucked out there.

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Speaker 5: You know.

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Speaker 4: I'm thankful. And of course if I could just joke

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Speaker 4: with you and my fellow listeners one and wish my

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Speaker 4: fellow listeners happy New Year. Absolutely, and I know that

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Speaker 4: we're we want to be jovial tonight with Elizabeth Warren,

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Speaker 4: so I'll keep.

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Speaker 5: It kind of that much.

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Speaker 1: It's kind of oxymoronic. It's very incongruous to be jovial

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Speaker 1: with Elizabeth Warrens. She's never jovial. I'm gonna get me

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Speaker 1: a beer here. The second part of that scene, remember,

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Speaker 1: was when the husband walked around the corner, what are

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Speaker 1: you doing here? It was like, I live here.

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Speaker 11: I'm surprised.

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Speaker 4: You know what the National Press Club building down there

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Speaker 4: at fourteenth and F is. You know, I've been there

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Speaker 4: at the at the National Press Club and it was

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Speaker 4: a bomb scare out on Fourteenth Street and they closed

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Speaker 4: that whole intersection. You couldn't get out and you couldn't

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Speaker 4: do anything. And I wonder if she'd noticed when she

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Speaker 4: got out of her car, because I'm sure there's nothing.

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Speaker 4: I don't think there's an underground garage to the National

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Speaker 4: Press building where she's safe. You know, she wasn't carjacked

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Speaker 4: when she got out of her car.

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Speaker 1: What's going on by the way with you know, obviously

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Speaker 1: we had that horrible scene where the one National Guards

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Speaker 1: guard woman from West Virginia was assassinated, and the last

511
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Speaker 1: I heard was that the National Guards men was slowly

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Speaker 1: but somewhat on the road to recovery. Is is was

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Speaker 1: she didn't have a different feel as a result of

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Speaker 1: the presence of the Guard or is it still a

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Speaker 1: city that you have to be very concerned about where

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Speaker 1: you are at certain times of day.

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Speaker 4: When you asked me last time. I just made a

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Speaker 4: good guess of it because things were borderline, because you're

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Speaker 4: going into the holiday season, yep, and so certain things

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Speaker 4: weren't going to change. You know, it's going to kind

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Speaker 4: of stay the same. I go back in, I think

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Speaker 4: next week during the holidays. Now, I know that you

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Speaker 4: used to be able to walk around DC and do.

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Speaker 5: All sorts of stuff.

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Speaker 4: Okay, it was a very inexpensive city to go out in.

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Speaker 5: You never had to worry about this kind of stuff

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Speaker 5: that we had to worry about.

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Speaker 1: Well, I will expect the full report if you can

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Speaker 1: go in on a reconmission for US next week.

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I got to go back in and I'll

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Speaker 4: see what I see. But anyway, planes, don't let that

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Speaker 4: woman run for president again. Don't encourage her to do that.

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Speaker 1: In doing it for the good of the country.

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Speaker 4: Your your state must like that whiny type pleading voice.

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Speaker 1: That we just you know what it is is we

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Speaker 1: love people with with you know, native American background from Oklahoma.

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Speaker 1: I mean, there's there's nothing to me that says Massachusetts

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Speaker 1: more than someone from Oklahoma.

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Speaker 4: Well, unfortunately, the world is a pretty dangerous place right now,

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Speaker 4: and it takes a pretty dangerous.

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Speaker 5: Man in the White House to kind of handle it.

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Speaker 5: I don't think she's gonna do very well. I haven't

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Speaker 5: seen it well.

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Speaker 1: The Man of the White House will not be running

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Speaker 1: in twenty twenty eighth, despite some of the concerns that

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Speaker 1: some people seem to express. I think that even he

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Speaker 1: realizes that his time will be up, and if the

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Speaker 1: Republicans don't do well in November his time he becomes

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Speaker 1: a lame duck formally November. So you, I know, we'll

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Speaker 1: have to see Patrick. So great to hear your voice.

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Speaker 1: You need to check back with us at some point

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Speaker 1: in the next week or so and give us a

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Speaker 1: give us a drive around in Washington and let us

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Speaker 1: know what you see on the ground. I trust you totally.

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Speaker 4: Okay, all right, sir, you got it.

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Speaker 5: Thank you very much.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, my friend. We'll talk later. Let me get

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Speaker 1: next up Warren and fall River. Warren, you were next

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Speaker 1: on Nightside.

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Speaker 2: Go right ahead, Hey, my friend, how are you doing.

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Speaker 1: I'm doing great? Happy New Year, do you? Warren? Tell

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Speaker 1: us what you think New Year?

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Speaker 9: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: The more that liberals talk, the more you know, insane

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Speaker 2: they get. It's just it's you know, and the only

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Speaker 2: problem with the country, is that we got a president

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Speaker 2: who's worst, who is his own worst enemy, no doubt

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Speaker 2: not that he talks and he talks and he messes

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Speaker 2: things up, and you know, and you know this is crazy.

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Speaker 1: No, I I agree with you. I think that that

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Speaker 1: that he gave this sort of rambling speech that I

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Speaker 1: had didn't listen to it at the Economic Club of

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Speaker 1: Detroit or the Detroit Economic Club, whatever the title is properly,

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Speaker 1: and he will he will go off script and he

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Speaker 1: he just sort of you're a big music guy, so

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Speaker 1: a lot of people go to concerts and they just

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Speaker 1: want to hear the songs that they're familiar with the

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Speaker 1: person who's performing. Then there's other groups like the Grateful Dead,

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Speaker 1: where they just want want him to riff. But he

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Speaker 1: just riffs.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he just you know, he rambles and he rambles

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Speaker 2: and he rambles. But so doesn't see she rambles and

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Speaker 2: she rambles and she rambles, and and it's just the

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Speaker 2: more that they talk, the more insane they are.

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Speaker 1: Well, she's she she she rambles within a strong belief.

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Speaker 1: I assume in an ideology, he rambles in his own greatness, which.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, he's see, he's the greatest person on

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Speaker 2: the earth at all times, you know. And uh, but hey,

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Speaker 2: just one thing to kind of you know, put a

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Speaker 2: cherry on you know, you know, the you know, to

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Speaker 2: kind of tell you where.

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Speaker 9: The country is.

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Speaker 2: There was a video in in Fall River where you know,

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Speaker 2: from one of the Fall River pages and off like that,

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Speaker 2: and it was a person giving out food for free,

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Speaker 2: all right, mind around the block all right.

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Speaker 9: And right next to it employment office or like a

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Speaker 9: like a recruiting you know, like a like like a headhunter.

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Speaker 2: And no one, you know, no one was going into

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Speaker 2: the head hunter place looking for you know, looking for work.

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Speaker 1: I hear you. Uh yeah. Look, there's there's a lot

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Speaker 1: of folks who who who want to work, and there's

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Speaker 1: a lot of folks who are unemployed who want to work,

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Speaker 1: and they just maybe don't have the skills, so they

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Speaker 1: don't have the the the job opportunity. And I'm hoping,

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Speaker 1: I'm hoping that if we do get some investment in

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Speaker 1: this country, uh in Automobile President did a long interview

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Speaker 1: tonight on CBS Evening News and talked about the amount

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Speaker 1: of money that's being invested in this country. I hope

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Speaker 1: he's he's being accurate. And I hope this money pours

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Speaker 1: in and we get factories built because I want to

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Speaker 1: root for his.

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Speaker 2: Paul could absolutely use it. I mean, you know, I

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Speaker 2: mean there are empty you know, buildings in Paul River

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Speaker 2: that could be instantly filled, you know, and give people

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Speaker 2: good work.

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Speaker 1: Well, I will tell you this warrant. A Fall River

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Speaker 1: voted for a Republican presidential candidate for the first time

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Speaker 1: in one hundred years in twenty twenty four. And the

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Speaker 1: Republicans aren't small enough to make note of that and

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Speaker 1: go down and try to help, you know, bring some

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Speaker 1: some industry into Fall River. We'll shame on them. Yep,

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Speaker 1: thanks Waren. Happy new Year, buddy. All right, we'll talk soon. Okay.

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Speaker 1: I am not going to short change Dave in San Antonio. Dave,

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Speaker 1: you'll be leading off of the on the other side

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Speaker 1: of the eleven o'clock news. I promise you that I'll

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Speaker 1: give you a fair shake. Wish a happy New Year,

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Speaker 1: and wish everyone a happy new year. I think it's

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Speaker 1: still January, so my rule of thumbs, you can say

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Speaker 1: Happy New Year right through the month of January. If

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Speaker 1: you want to call and wish me a happy New year,

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Speaker 1: I'd appreciate it if you just want to call and

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Speaker 1: comment on Elizabeth Warren's clarion call to the Democracratic Democratic

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Speaker 1: Party to go as far left as they possibly can.

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Speaker 1: To her, I think she believes that if the Democrats

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Speaker 1: raise taxes, open the borders, try to confiscate property from

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Speaker 1: people who happen to be successful, uh imposal, wealth tax,

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Speaker 1: increase inflation, that that is the secret formula for democratic success.

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Speaker 1: I don't think it is, but I believe she believes

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Speaker 1: that firmly six one, seven, two, five, four ten thirty

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Speaker 1: six one seven, nine three one ten thirty. Join us

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Speaker 1: on Nightside. We are reviewing the recommendation that the Globe

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Speaker 1: ignored today. They only talked about her fight with Donald

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Speaker 1: Trump over fed chairman Powell. Interesting back on Nightside right

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Speaker 1: after the eleven o'clock news