WEBVTT - Reign Weekly 6-4: We’re A Podcast!

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<v Speaker 1>Hi, welcome to rain Meekly Keiley Dunning and Laura Shott.

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<v Speaker 2>And this time we get to talk as long as

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<v Speaker 2>we want. We have no limits.

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<v Speaker 3>There we go, the limit.

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<v Speaker 2>Does not exist.

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<v Speaker 4>Quoting Tina Fey from Mean Girls, Oh Millennial Classics, I still,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, I still reference that movie to help me

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<v Speaker 4>just navigate the world.

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<v Speaker 3>Uh yeah, I mean I think I referenced that movie.

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<v Speaker 3>I think I well, now I listen to any Polar's

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<v Speaker 3>podcast quite a bit, so you know, there's all kinds

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<v Speaker 3>of fun there. Bridesmaids is I mean, my my daughter's

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<v Speaker 3>loosely uh named after Kristen Wegg, so stop it.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, we were like soulmates for this dude.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah no, I am big fan, big fan. I mean

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<v Speaker 3>those those those people are complete comedic and otherwise geniuses.

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<v Speaker 4>So Amie Polar is just like one of my top

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<v Speaker 4>five favorite people I've.

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<v Speaker 3>Never met, top people I've never met.

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<v Speaker 4>I would be authentic, like and I don't get starstruck

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<v Speaker 4>because people are people, and it's not because I'm like,

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<v Speaker 4>oh they're not so cool, there's still like that's not

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<v Speaker 4>what I mean. I mean, people are just people. The

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<v Speaker 4>Amy Polar man if I ever If and when even

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<v Speaker 4>when I ever meet her, I'm just gonna be like

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<v Speaker 4>starry eyed.

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<v Speaker 3>You know what's so fun is she's like I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>she's in God, She's in every SNL thing that you

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<v Speaker 3>know you love, from mom Jeans to Debbie Downer. And

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<v Speaker 3>then she now she does all this stuff right, and

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<v Speaker 3>she has parks and rac and she can do anything,

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<v Speaker 3>goes on tour with Tina Fey, of course, and then

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<v Speaker 3>now she just starts a podcast and her podcast sounds

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<v Speaker 3>like she should have been podcasting this entire time. It's

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<v Speaker 3>so good. It's such a natural all platform for her.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, yes, I want to hang out with her, and

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<v Speaker 4>that's the whole point of a podcast. So thank you

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<v Speaker 4>listeners for hanging out with us. I hope it work

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<v Speaker 4>fun to hang out with.

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<v Speaker 2>I like to think that I am a good friend.

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<v Speaker 4>Chat soccer and other great chat.

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<v Speaker 2>Love Island.

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<v Speaker 4>I have great chat everybody.

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<v Speaker 3>I'll catch up on Island.

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<v Speaker 4>All right, Yeah, we'll catch up on Love Island later.

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<v Speaker 4>The first episode premiered yesterday. All right, Laura, let's switch

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<v Speaker 4>from Love Island. Although rin MC players do all love,

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<v Speaker 4>they love Love Island, so there is a connection there.

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<v Speaker 3>I will tell you that last year. When I heard

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<v Speaker 3>that Laura Harvey gave us that. I think in a

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<v Speaker 3>pregame she was talking about how the players were really

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<v Speaker 3>into Love Island. I gave a shot. I gave it

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<v Speaker 3>a real shot, and I, you know, found it because

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<v Speaker 3>I had to find it, because that's how disconnected I

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<v Speaker 3>was from it. And I started to watch it and

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<v Speaker 3>I had I had trouble. I struggled a bit. I

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<v Speaker 3>struggled a bit. I you know, I pushed through. I persevered.

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<v Speaker 3>It was like my sixth one twenty. It's like, I'm

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<v Speaker 3>gonna go ahead and make this. I don't want to

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<v Speaker 3>have to run the fitness test again. I gotta see

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<v Speaker 3>what this is about. And I did, and that's the

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<v Speaker 3>last time it's been on my TV.

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<v Speaker 4>It's great background noise because literally nothing happens every episode, right.

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe that's what I should have. That's I was actually

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<v Speaker 3>trying to pay attention because I was like, well, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>they're into it. I kind of want to learn something.

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<v Speaker 3>And I started watching it and I was like, I

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<v Speaker 3>don't know if I can do this, And you know what,

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<v Speaker 3>that's the perfect way to do it. I should have

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<v Speaker 3>been doing that.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what Love Island reminds me of.

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<v Speaker 4>And this is actually this is what Love Island is,

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<v Speaker 4>and this is why it's probably so popular. It reminds

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<v Speaker 4>me of every time I would play with my Barbies

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<v Speaker 4>and my Kendles and I would just like play with

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<v Speaker 4>them and be like, these ones are dating, and now

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<v Speaker 4>these ones are dating and creating like all the stories.

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<v Speaker 4>But the audience are playing with a bunch of Barbies

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<v Speaker 4>and Kendalls.

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe it's nostalgia for people.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe, Yeah, like that's what it reminds me of. It's

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<v Speaker 2>playing barbies.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, I can I'm following that logic That would make

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<v Speaker 3>sense to me.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>They all wear like weird crazy outfits all the time.

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<v Speaker 4>They all couple up and date each other and switch up,

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<v Speaker 4>and it just reminds me of you know, ten year

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<v Speaker 4>old KILLI playing with her Barbies and her Kendall and

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<v Speaker 4>going on an ice skating date with Ken, and then

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<v Speaker 4>the next day and going on a surf date with

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<v Speaker 4>not Ken.

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<v Speaker 3>That's right, different skipper, Skipper.

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<v Speaker 2>Skippers, the younger sister, I don't know. The guys had

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<v Speaker 2>the younger guy. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>Isn't there another guy more than Ken? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 4>Well, because there was like one with like dark brown,

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<v Speaker 4>like black hair, and there was definitely a blonde and

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<v Speaker 4>I kind had like the sandy brown hair.

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<v Speaker 2>We are so debating.

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<v Speaker 3>It's you're you're challenging my pop culture knowledge and I'm failing,

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<v Speaker 3>and I'm sorry, and I'll do better.

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<v Speaker 4>All right, Let's move into your area of expertise, Laura,

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<v Speaker 4>and let's do some NWSL action. We're obviously going to

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<v Speaker 4>get into Rain and they're unfortunate too. One loss to

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<v Speaker 4>Washington Spirit. Always tough to play the same team twice

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<v Speaker 4>in one month, especially when we played them so well

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<v Speaker 4>the first time and then we had to go on

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<v Speaker 4>the road and and try and repeat that.

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<v Speaker 2>It was tough. It was tough.

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<v Speaker 3>You know.

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<v Speaker 4>Actually, now that I think of that, let's start with

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<v Speaker 4>that game, Laura. Yeah, let's start with the Rain game.

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<v Speaker 4>We are a rain of see, we are Rain weekly.

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<v Speaker 4>Let's start with the Rain.

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<v Speaker 3>I I am actually fairly high on the game. I know,

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<v Speaker 3>none of us, you know, we want to get the

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<v Speaker 3>three points. We want to even just get a point

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<v Speaker 3>on the road. Obviously we'll achieved that against Boston, which

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<v Speaker 3>was awesome getting the three. This game was just kind

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<v Speaker 3>of one. There was a lot of action to it

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<v Speaker 3>to me. There were times where I thought the rain

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<v Speaker 3>attacted very well with pace, with speed. Frankly, that's how

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<v Speaker 3>we created the goal that we got. I know that,

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<v Speaker 3>you know that goes down as an own goal. However,

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<v Speaker 3>Mercado running that ball down and then putting really three

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<v Speaker 3>players in an awkward situation so that they had to

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<v Speaker 3>make a decision and it ended up resulting in an

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<v Speaker 3>own goal. Great kind of hustle play there. Just to

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<v Speaker 3>stick with it. But I thought the game was really

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<v Speaker 3>open at times, really interesting. How you know, Like a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of times the n WSL, you'll see teams transition

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<v Speaker 3>very well the defense and they'll get back in a block.

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<v Speaker 3>And oftentimes you'll see teams be successful in the attack

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<v Speaker 3>when they don't allow the opponent to get into that

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<v Speaker 3>block and they counter quickly.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I e.

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<v Speaker 3>Banda showinga you know, players that have been very successful

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<v Speaker 3>at getting in behind. You know. I was going to

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<v Speaker 3>say this season, but I think I have to say

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of seasons. And I thought that this game

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<v Speaker 3>opened up at times and made it very entertaining to

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<v Speaker 3>watch as a fan. But also I got to give

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<v Speaker 3>a nod to the goals. The goals were all awkward, right,

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<v Speaker 3>You've got a free kick goal by Santos that you

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<v Speaker 3>could tell Dicky's vision was blocked and so it ended

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<v Speaker 3>up sneaking in the corner. It was very well taken

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<v Speaker 3>by her. I like the way she struck it. I

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<v Speaker 3>like the way it had a little bit of balance

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<v Speaker 3>on it, so it was difficult to read. Even when

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<v Speaker 3>Dicky could see it late. It's still very very hard

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<v Speaker 3>to make that save. So you know, you kind of

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<v Speaker 3>you kick off there with that goal, and then you

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<v Speaker 3>have the I'm just going to call it the Mercado goal,

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<v Speaker 3>although we should technically call it the deep goal.

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<v Speaker 2>Justice from Madison Curry, by the way, she should get

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<v Speaker 2>an assist on that.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, I mean it's unfortunate that when you yeah, it's

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<v Speaker 3>unfortunate that there's not you know, some way I guess

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<v Speaker 3>to kind of stat count that because it was created

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<v Speaker 3>and we know that you know, Maddy Curry has been

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<v Speaker 3>I mean she did that in the last game, right,

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<v Speaker 3>great assist. So she's looking for it and it's and

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<v Speaker 3>she's playing those balls very well and it was a

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<v Speaker 3>very dangerous ball results in the own goal, but goal

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<v Speaker 3>for the ring, and then you get that final goal.

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<v Speaker 3>Which was was also awkward. Right, takes a deflection off

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<v Speaker 3>of Bug. Right, Dickie had read it, takes a deflection

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<v Speaker 3>off of Bug's foot and kind of you know, like

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<v Speaker 3>with pace, but then goes the other direction, just to

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<v Speaker 3>flex it enough so that you know, Dicky's dive is

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<v Speaker 3>just out of position now and now you know it

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<v Speaker 3>goes in the goal, quite simply. So all of those goals,

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<v Speaker 3>really can we say that they were created? Sure, but

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<v Speaker 3>they were all unique in that they weren't you know,

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<v Speaker 3>they weren't plan Something happened that was a little out

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<v Speaker 3>of the box that you can't really prepare for on

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<v Speaker 3>both sides, so on the attacking end in that sense,

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<v Speaker 3>I just I found the goals very interesting.

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<v Speaker 2>All right.

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<v Speaker 4>So let's look at NWSL and where we currently stand

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<v Speaker 4>in the league. Tenth place, four two and five. So

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<v Speaker 4>a good record, honestly, yeah, a good record. Not a

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<v Speaker 4>great ren of form to end this first half of

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<v Speaker 4>the season. Half ish half ish of the season. Let's

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<v Speaker 4>take a look at the rest of the table. Sean

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<v Speaker 4>diego way up and at the top eight one and four.

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<v Speaker 4>Look at that Utah seven three and two, and Laura,

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<v Speaker 4>I know you wanted to delve into Utah a bit.

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<v Speaker 4>Let me just finish going through the standings and then

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<v Speaker 4>we'll go through some of the games. Utah sitting in second,

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<v Speaker 4>Portland right behind, Washington, Spirit sitting in fourth, Gotham, Kansas City,

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<v Speaker 4>North Carolina, Orlando.

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<v Speaker 2>Those are your top eight.

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<v Speaker 4>Then we have Denver Summit, Our, Seattle Rain, Houston, Angel City,

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<v Speaker 4>Bay FC, Boston Legacy, Chicago Stars coming off for really

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<v Speaker 4>tough results and a tough ending of that one.

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<v Speaker 2>And racing Louisville at the bottom.

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<v Speaker 4>But you know, as is always seemingly the case in NWSL,

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<v Speaker 4>there's a lot of parody, and there is not a

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<v Speaker 4>lot of distance between the first place and eleventh place.

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<v Speaker 4>There are only eleven points between Houston Dash, Seattle Rain

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<v Speaker 4>was fourteen, and.

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<v Speaker 2>San Diego at twenty five, so attainable. No one is

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<v Speaker 2>out of it, frankly.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean maybe spiritually they're out of it, but mathematically

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<v Speaker 4>they're not.

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<v Speaker 2>Mathematically they're not.

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<v Speaker 4>So let's go through some of these games, and I

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<v Speaker 4>think the highlight was that Utah Portland matchup. I'll let

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<v Speaker 4>you go into what you saw first, and then i'll

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<v Speaker 4>give you some of my softer takes.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I mean, really interesting game. I really enjoy watching

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<v Speaker 3>Utah right now, specifically in the way that they've transitioned

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<v Speaker 3>from twenty twenty five to being, you know, in the

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<v Speaker 3>position they're in right now in second, tied with the

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<v Speaker 3>Portland Thorns. So that was that was a you know,

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<v Speaker 3>back to back matchup two teams that are you know,

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<v Speaker 3>fying for first. If either one of those teams would

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<v Speaker 3>have won that game, they would be in first right

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<v Speaker 3>now in the league standings. But I mean Multrie with

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<v Speaker 3>her her first goal, I mean the first goal of

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<v Speaker 3>the game to kick that one off. You know, she's

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<v Speaker 3>been making really savvy, really great runs off the ball,

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<v Speaker 3>and really with that one, the placement of her shot

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<v Speaker 3>was clinical. I mean she went near post on it.

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<v Speaker 3>There wasn't much room there. The room that was there

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<v Speaker 3>she utilized. That's a very difficult ball to finish going

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<v Speaker 3>up one.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh.

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<v Speaker 3>But I mean really in that game, I thought that

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<v Speaker 3>the at the end of the day, both teams played well.

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<v Speaker 3>There was a lot of attack, some great defensive stops,

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<v Speaker 3>really entertaining game in that way. You'd expect that from

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<v Speaker 3>those two teams with the players that they have that

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<v Speaker 3>have been very aggressive in the attacking end. Really the

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<v Speaker 3>story of the game, though, was the final goal and

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<v Speaker 3>how it was. We'll call it created. I mean I

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<v Speaker 3>was asking you before, I would love the stat on

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<v Speaker 3>how often the eight second rule has come into play

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<v Speaker 3>in games. I don't remember one in any of the

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<v Speaker 3>games that we covered last year. I don't remember one

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<v Speaker 3>in any of the games that I watched last year,

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<v Speaker 3>which is quite a few games. Or let's go into

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<v Speaker 3>this year too, in twenty twenty six. I don't remember it.

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<v Speaker 3>I haven't watched all the games. Maybe there have been some,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, surgeons in eight second calls, but this one really,

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<v Speaker 3>to me seemed like it was right on eight seconds.

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<v Speaker 3>The thing that will remain unknown, at least for me.

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe we can get some inside information. We'd have to

0:11:45.400 --> 0:11:48.040
<v Speaker 3>talk to the players involved, but maybe maybe she was

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<v Speaker 3>warned like four times, and then she held it again,

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<v Speaker 3>and you know, the referee decided not this time, but

0:11:54.280 --> 0:11:58.480
<v Speaker 3>eight seconds is called, corners taken, foul is called, and

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<v Speaker 3>then that results in Thorne's p que, which is converted,

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<v Speaker 3>which results in the tie. And this all happened, I believe,

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<v Speaker 3>I mean the eighty eighth maybe to the ninetieth minute

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<v Speaker 3>in regulation play, So I mean this was this is

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<v Speaker 3>what really became the result was it hinged on this

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<v Speaker 3>series of calls right in the eleventh hour of the game.

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<v Speaker 3>I this doesn't happen very often. So when I was

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<v Speaker 3>watching the game and it was called, I mean, I

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<v Speaker 3>you know, like my soccer brain's running in the background,

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<v Speaker 3>and I was like, did he just call eight seconds?

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<v Speaker 3>But I wasn't quite sure because I was kind of

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<v Speaker 3>doing something.

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<v Speaker 2>I was so shy, like wait, right, You're like.

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<v Speaker 3>Did he do that? And then you know, I'm watching

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<v Speaker 3>and I'm like he did. And then I'm like, oh,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, you get that feeling. You've been in these

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<v Speaker 3>situations before. We were like, Ah, in a game, weird

0:12:47.679 --> 0:12:50.520
<v Speaker 3>call or not that it wasn't merited. I think it

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<v Speaker 3>was technically eight seconds. Did they call that very often? No,

0:12:53.760 --> 0:12:56.959
<v Speaker 3>I've seen goalkeepers hold and bounce and lay on balls

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<v Speaker 3>for more than eight seconds. I can't remember how many times.

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<v Speaker 3>But in this particular instance, he went for It results

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<v Speaker 3>in the next play, which results in a PK, which

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<v Speaker 3>results in a goal, and now you have a tie.

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<v Speaker 3>So I feel I'm sure Utah feels like that game

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<v Speaker 3>was stolen in some ways. I mean, you can't necessarily

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<v Speaker 3>term it completely stolen. But that was definitely different than

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<v Speaker 3>what I've seen across other games.

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<v Speaker 4>It feels like Portland's kind of one of those teams

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<v Speaker 4>have benefits from that a lot. And maybe it's just

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<v Speaker 4>because we notice it because it's Portland.

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe, you know, I've seen a number of their games

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<v Speaker 3>this year. They're they're running on als around cylinders. Tordon's

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<v Speaker 3>been great. I mean, their back line has been great, multrees.

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<v Speaker 3>I think, you know, really, you know, with the new

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<v Speaker 3>contract and really stepping into our own becoming more of

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<v Speaker 3>a leader, with you know, the absence of Sam Coffee

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<v Speaker 3>in that midfield, you know, just some things have shifted

0:13:55.640 --> 0:13:57.319
<v Speaker 3>a little bit within that team. And I think people

0:13:57.400 --> 0:13:59.600
<v Speaker 3>last year were like, oh well now they're not going

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<v Speaker 3>to be, you know, nearly as good. And to their credit,

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<v Speaker 3>a number of younger players have stepped in and just

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<v Speaker 3>showed out. They've been playing very very well. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>I haven't seen too many I haven't seen anything that

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<v Speaker 3>I'll just call it unique. Happened, you know in the

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<v Speaker 3>Thorns favor so far this year and in the games

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<v Speaker 3>that I've observed, But I will say when you're in

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<v Speaker 3>the eighty eighth minute and eight seconds is called, and

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<v Speaker 3>then a PK is called. I don't know the probability

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<v Speaker 3>that that sequence of events occurs at I'm going to

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<v Speaker 3>say it's very very very very low.

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<v Speaker 2>Very low eight silver eat silver. Can you tell us

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<v Speaker 2>the answer to that, please, I'm.

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<v Speaker 3>Sure we can get. Yeah, we can get.

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<v Speaker 4>We can loose some people in that Nolte speaking of Moultrie,

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<v Speaker 4>that player is a hunter.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, when she I mean she is just relentless.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I mean, well, if I'm a defender, I'm just

0:14:57.600 --> 0:15:01.040
<v Speaker 4>constantly feeling her breathing down my neck the entire game.

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<v Speaker 3>I think you feel her breaking down your neck. You

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<v Speaker 3>also have to make sure that you've got eyes on

0:15:06.560 --> 0:15:09.000
<v Speaker 3>her at all times, because she pulls into spaces in

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<v Speaker 3>a very strategic and calculated way. And if you lose

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<v Speaker 3>her off the ball, or if you're looking at the

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<v Speaker 3>ball too long and Multrie's off the ball scheming, you're

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<v Speaker 3>going to be in trouble. And I think this is

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<v Speaker 3>a piece of her game that frankly has been underestimated.

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<v Speaker 3>A lot of the focus since she was thirteen was

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<v Speaker 3>about her getting signed and is she too young and

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<v Speaker 3>can she handle this? And she would be doing this

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<v Speaker 3>to players obviously she could just practice when she was

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<v Speaker 3>that age. There was the whole series of events that

0:15:38.840 --> 0:15:40.960
<v Speaker 3>finally allowed her to be able to play, and younger

0:15:40.960 --> 0:15:43.680
<v Speaker 3>players in the league kind of open doors. So she's

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<v Speaker 3>definitely a trailblazer in that way. But I think this

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<v Speaker 3>is an underrated piece of her game, her scheming and

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<v Speaker 3>her reading the game so well, just because there have

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<v Speaker 3>been so many other facets of her playing life that

0:15:57.440 --> 0:16:00.600
<v Speaker 3>people have kind of latched onto, whether it's her age

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<v Speaker 3>or whether it's you know, is this too young? Is

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<v Speaker 3>this the right move? Should she be going into a

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<v Speaker 3>court case so that she can get the right to play?

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<v Speaker 3>Should she be doing right? There's there's been a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of noise, and during that noise, to her credit, I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>now it's been has it been six seven years?

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<v Speaker 2>Talk about scurity, by the way, talk about maturity.

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<v Speaker 4>All of that crowd noise around you and all that

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<v Speaker 4>controversy that has really it's completely out of your hands

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<v Speaker 4>and out of your control, and you're thirteen fourteen. She

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<v Speaker 4>must have it either like a great support system or

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<v Speaker 4>just insane maturity.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I mean shout out to her entire her family,

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<v Speaker 3>and I know them, I've been around them. I was

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<v Speaker 3>with the Thorns and running the academy when she came

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<v Speaker 3>in and we were planning for her to come in

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<v Speaker 3>and how she was gonna get games and all those

0:16:46.920 --> 0:16:48.480
<v Speaker 3>sorts of things, and I got to coach her for

0:16:48.560 --> 0:16:51.560
<v Speaker 3>that period of time. You know at that time, don't

0:16:51.640 --> 0:16:54.480
<v Speaker 3>you don't quite know? Right, somebody new comes into a

0:16:54.520 --> 0:16:57.760
<v Speaker 3>situation and you don't quite know. You don't know if

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<v Speaker 3>they're mature, you don't know what their family's like. You

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<v Speaker 3>just it's not that it's bad or that it's negative,

0:17:01.760 --> 0:17:03.480
<v Speaker 3>and it's not that it's good. You just it's a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of unknown. So there was a lot of planning

0:17:05.280 --> 0:17:07.040
<v Speaker 3>around it. It's the first time that something like that

0:17:07.040 --> 0:17:10.439
<v Speaker 3>had occurred. It was really a moment in time that

0:17:10.600 --> 0:17:14.200
<v Speaker 3>was a first. So over time, you know, you get

0:17:14.200 --> 0:17:15.800
<v Speaker 3>to know the family, you get to know the player,

0:17:15.920 --> 0:17:18.520
<v Speaker 3>you get to know the situation. And I'd say the

0:17:18.600 --> 0:17:21.040
<v Speaker 3>thing that's important, and this is important for every player

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<v Speaker 3>in watching and you know, starting to admire a player

0:17:24.760 --> 0:17:27.639
<v Speaker 3>like Olivia Multrie for our younger players out there, is

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<v Speaker 3>that through that noise and all those things that were

0:17:29.800 --> 0:17:32.000
<v Speaker 3>happening and things that you know were talked about or

0:17:32.040 --> 0:17:37.400
<v Speaker 3>heard about she's training. She's just she's just hungry, right,

0:17:37.480 --> 0:17:39.560
<v Speaker 3>she said it and put press conferences like she wants

0:17:39.600 --> 0:17:42.159
<v Speaker 3>to be the player, like she she wants it. And

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<v Speaker 3>then on top of that, you know she she trains

0:17:44.600 --> 0:17:47.000
<v Speaker 3>all the time. I mean she'll train when she's at training,

0:17:47.040 --> 0:17:49.399
<v Speaker 3>she'll train at the practice facility, she'll go home and

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<v Speaker 3>train like she's just she's that person. Now you look

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<v Speaker 3>at when she was thirteen, the questions were, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>is this too early? Is it too much? Or are

0:17:57.359 --> 0:17:59.359
<v Speaker 3>you putting too much on a kid? I would say,

0:17:59.480 --> 0:18:03.080
<v Speaker 3>in this particular instance, the kid wanted it that much.

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<v Speaker 3>I think that this is, you know, the outlier of outliers.

0:18:07.800 --> 0:18:10.200
<v Speaker 3>A lot of kids end up in pressure situations where

0:18:10.240 --> 0:18:12.320
<v Speaker 3>a parent or an adult wants it more than them

0:18:12.359 --> 0:18:15.560
<v Speaker 3>and starts to create these manufacture these things around them

0:18:15.680 --> 0:18:18.199
<v Speaker 3>to get them to a spot because they're talented. And

0:18:18.240 --> 0:18:21.360
<v Speaker 3>this is a situation where there's there's great support around her.

0:18:21.400 --> 0:18:25.520
<v Speaker 3>But she also this was something that she really wanted

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<v Speaker 3>to do.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just really impressive. The entire situation is impressive.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, she's still so young and and she's just begun

0:18:35.359 --> 0:18:38.280
<v Speaker 4>her journey, which is crazy.

0:18:37.280 --> 0:18:40.359
<v Speaker 3>And she's like, is it sick. Well, actually, I have

0:18:40.400 --> 0:18:42.879
<v Speaker 3>to go back and look at when she first played.

0:18:43.000 --> 0:18:46.800
<v Speaker 3>Was it five years ago? Because she couldn't play it first, right, Yeah,

0:18:46.800 --> 0:18:48.680
<v Speaker 3>she had to fight for the right to actually play,

0:18:49.560 --> 0:18:51.199
<v Speaker 3>but she was training for a couple of years before that.

0:18:52.400 --> 0:18:56.040
<v Speaker 4>Let's see, she was born in two thousand and five,

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<v Speaker 4>so she is only twenty years old currently.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'll see when she start.

0:19:00.359 --> 0:19:02.040
<v Speaker 3>I believe that's seven years since she came to parlanm.

0:19:02.119 --> 0:19:03.560
<v Speaker 3>She came when she was thirteen, but I don't know

0:19:03.560 --> 0:19:05.360
<v Speaker 3>when she started playing in matches.

0:19:05.600 --> 0:19:08.840
<v Speaker 4>So signed her first professional contract at age fifteen and

0:19:08.880 --> 0:19:12.440
<v Speaker 4>twenty twenty one. That was following the lawsuit that successfully

0:19:12.440 --> 0:19:16.200
<v Speaker 4>removed aage limit. Following that, and then the next year

0:19:16.200 --> 0:19:18.600
<v Speaker 4>in twenty twenty two, won an nws AL championship with

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<v Speaker 4>the Thorns.

0:19:19.040 --> 0:19:21.080
<v Speaker 2>So she's also a winner too, like a team. She's

0:19:21.640 --> 0:19:24.919
<v Speaker 2>she's an exceptional player. She clearly has.

0:19:24.920 --> 0:19:30.560
<v Speaker 4>Insane maturity, she's got a great support system, and she's

0:19:30.600 --> 0:19:31.320
<v Speaker 4>also a winner.

0:19:34.119 --> 0:19:35.160
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, perfect play.

0:19:36.200 --> 0:19:38.320
<v Speaker 3>I think in a lot of ways she's I mean,

0:19:38.320 --> 0:19:40.359
<v Speaker 3>I think no one continued to see her evoll.

0:19:40.640 --> 0:19:41.440
<v Speaker 2>No one's perfect.

0:19:41.760 --> 0:19:42.720
<v Speaker 3>No one's perfect.

0:19:42.760 --> 0:19:44.320
<v Speaker 2>I don't want to put that pressure on her.

0:19:45.359 --> 0:19:47.199
<v Speaker 3>I mean, if there's somebody you could put the pressure

0:19:47.240 --> 0:19:48.040
<v Speaker 3>on and could.

0:19:47.800 --> 0:19:53.480
<v Speaker 4>Hand there, I for a coaching course from her, like

0:19:53.520 --> 0:19:56.040
<v Speaker 4>a life coaching course. I would pay so much money

0:19:56.080 --> 0:19:58.360
<v Speaker 4>to do a life coaching course with Olivia.

0:19:58.720 --> 0:20:01.280
<v Speaker 3>Well, when you when you get these players, these very

0:20:01.359 --> 0:20:03.960
<v Speaker 3>unique players that you know play for the national team

0:20:04.040 --> 0:20:07.919
<v Speaker 3>for long periods of time, or you know an Olivia Moultrie,

0:20:08.000 --> 0:20:11.959
<v Speaker 3>that is such a unique situation. It's it's funny like

0:20:12.200 --> 0:20:14.240
<v Speaker 3>you of course want to learn from them and let's

0:20:14.320 --> 0:20:18.160
<v Speaker 3>let's you know, Moultrie had sink. Christine Sinclair was at

0:20:18.160 --> 0:20:20.959
<v Speaker 3>the Thorns for a long time, right, she had coffee

0:20:20.960 --> 0:20:23.080
<v Speaker 3>in midfield as she went through her transition to the

0:20:23.160 --> 0:20:25.760
<v Speaker 3>national team, and then Moultrie was, you know following suit.

0:20:26.560 --> 0:20:30.080
<v Speaker 3>She's had some great mentors there and I can I

0:20:30.080 --> 0:20:33.560
<v Speaker 3>can tell you, I mean even starting with Mark Parsons

0:20:33.600 --> 0:20:36.320
<v Speaker 3>was there at the time. I mean his design and

0:20:36.359 --> 0:20:39.520
<v Speaker 3>planning and the thought that went into taking care of

0:20:39.560 --> 0:20:43.680
<v Speaker 3>the soccer side of this was very extensive. So there's

0:20:43.720 --> 0:20:44.919
<v Speaker 3>a lot that goes into it. But I mean, if

0:20:44.960 --> 0:20:46.680
<v Speaker 3>you want a course from somebody like that, I mean,

0:20:46.840 --> 0:20:49.760
<v Speaker 3>get ready, because I mean a lot of these people

0:20:49.880 --> 0:20:54.600
<v Speaker 3>embody greatness to then teach. It is sometimes difficult for

0:20:54.640 --> 0:20:55.520
<v Speaker 3>them because they aren't.

0:20:55.600 --> 0:20:58.560
<v Speaker 2>Because they aren't. That's so true. That's so true.

0:20:59.359 --> 0:21:01.640
<v Speaker 4>What is it those you can't do teach? But I completely,

0:21:02.800 --> 0:21:04.560
<v Speaker 4>I actually completely disagree with that.

0:21:04.640 --> 0:21:07.640
<v Speaker 2>My mother is a lifetime teacher and she does a lot.

0:21:08.200 --> 0:21:11.600
<v Speaker 2>She's a due. She doesn't even hate SAT.

0:21:11.920 --> 0:21:14.199
<v Speaker 3>Came up with that. Yeah, I'm not sure. What do

0:21:14.240 --> 0:21:14.800
<v Speaker 3>you what's.

0:21:15.000 --> 0:21:19.360
<v Speaker 4>Better student in their class? That's who it was. Yeah,

0:21:19.480 --> 0:21:22.880
<v Speaker 4>this teacher has it out for me. So they just are, you.

0:21:22.840 --> 0:21:25.000
<v Speaker 2>Know, trying to destroy my dreams because they can't do

0:21:25.080 --> 0:21:26.480
<v Speaker 2>it themselves, which you know what.

0:21:26.600 --> 0:21:30.879
<v Speaker 4>I operate great on spite. Yeah, fortunately it's spite is

0:21:30.880 --> 0:21:33.760
<v Speaker 4>a great motivator for me. I hate that because I'd

0:21:33.840 --> 0:21:36.359
<v Speaker 4>rather live my life not needing to spite people to

0:21:36.440 --> 0:21:37.439
<v Speaker 4>do well.

0:21:37.600 --> 0:21:41.240
<v Speaker 2>But man, is spite uh motivator for Oh?

0:21:41.280 --> 0:21:43.080
<v Speaker 3>I mean it's fine as I mean, it's it's right

0:21:43.080 --> 0:21:44.040
<v Speaker 3>there with like prove you.

0:21:44.080 --> 0:21:46.000
<v Speaker 2>Wrong, right, that's yeah exactly.

0:21:46.680 --> 0:21:50.479
<v Speaker 3>I mean people have used that energy for they'll use

0:21:50.480 --> 0:21:50.919
<v Speaker 3>it forever.

0:21:51.560 --> 0:21:51.760
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:21:51.960 --> 0:21:54.040
<v Speaker 4>Chip on your shoulder, just having a chip on your shoulder,

0:21:54.240 --> 0:21:57.800
<v Speaker 4>it helps, it helps, all right. More action across the league.

0:21:58.280 --> 0:22:03.200
<v Speaker 4>Orlando Pride BFC three to one for Orlando. I feel

0:22:03.200 --> 0:22:05.880
<v Speaker 4>like that was an That result doesn't tell how well

0:22:05.960 --> 0:22:09.320
<v Speaker 4>they played, especially on the attacking end. They had a

0:22:09.359 --> 0:22:13.120
<v Speaker 4>goal taken off that was called offside, would have been

0:22:13.720 --> 0:22:16.959
<v Speaker 4>at that point to nil, I believe. Uh, it just

0:22:17.040 --> 0:22:20.679
<v Speaker 4>changes the complete complexity of a game, complexity whatever.

0:22:20.680 --> 0:22:23.000
<v Speaker 2>It changes the complete complexity of the game.

0:22:24.160 --> 0:22:26.840
<v Speaker 4>What did you see from Orlando and Bay Because I

0:22:26.880 --> 0:22:29.600
<v Speaker 4>was I was very impressed with Day's attacking prowess in

0:22:29.600 --> 0:22:30.000
<v Speaker 4>that match.

0:22:30.680 --> 0:22:33.880
<v Speaker 3>Well, you know, even going back to the last year

0:22:33.920 --> 0:22:37.840
<v Speaker 3>and in the beginning of this year, they creates attack like.

0:22:37.800 --> 0:22:41.720
<v Speaker 2>They're an interesting team to Yeah, totally, they can be

0:22:41.760 --> 0:22:42.200
<v Speaker 2>a very.

0:22:42.040 --> 0:22:45.200
<v Speaker 3>Interesting team to watch. And so, like, I mean, Orlando's

0:22:45.240 --> 0:22:48.480
<v Speaker 3>a difficult matchup. Obviously, Banda's been knocking it out of

0:22:48.480 --> 0:22:50.760
<v Speaker 3>the park. She's the lead leaguing scorer right now. We

0:22:50.800 --> 0:22:53.480
<v Speaker 3>know she ain't just been out and she's surging, surging

0:22:53.560 --> 0:22:55.520
<v Speaker 3>in goals right now as she you know, makes up

0:22:56.520 --> 0:22:59.440
<v Speaker 3>her time away at BLA. She's sitting at seven right now,

0:22:59.600 --> 0:23:03.679
<v Speaker 3>behind at eleven. Yeah, savaging the goal of game. And

0:23:03.800 --> 0:23:07.000
<v Speaker 3>I mean, I I'm going to say, she guys gonna

0:23:07.040 --> 0:23:09.280
<v Speaker 3>try to She's gonna make a surge to get to

0:23:09.320 --> 0:23:11.560
<v Speaker 3>that average as well. Those two players are you know,

0:23:12.160 --> 0:23:15.120
<v Speaker 3>they're special, and so you know, anytime you have band

0:23:15.160 --> 0:23:16.840
<v Speaker 3>on a field, you've got to be looking for the counter,

0:23:16.840 --> 0:23:18.440
<v Speaker 3>and you've got to be looking for that speed and behind.

0:23:18.480 --> 0:23:20.880
<v Speaker 3>She's looking for it constantly, and it's it's always dangerous

0:23:20.880 --> 0:23:23.880
<v Speaker 3>whether she's scoring the goals or whether she's playing defenders

0:23:23.920 --> 0:23:26.960
<v Speaker 3>out of positions because they have to pay special attention

0:23:27.000 --> 0:23:28.520
<v Speaker 3>to her. She gets a step on you and she's

0:23:28.560 --> 0:23:32.760
<v Speaker 3>in It's it's difficult. I when I've watched Bay and

0:23:32.800 --> 0:23:35.080
<v Speaker 3>you know, including in this game, the attack is just

0:23:35.119 --> 0:23:39.000
<v Speaker 3>inconsistent and sometimes the finishing's not there. I think that

0:23:39.040 --> 0:23:41.800
<v Speaker 3>they're a team that even last year like they could

0:23:41.840 --> 0:23:43.159
<v Speaker 3>have made a surge, and I think we're going to

0:23:43.200 --> 0:23:44.800
<v Speaker 3>see the same thing as we go into the second

0:23:44.840 --> 0:23:48.400
<v Speaker 3>half of this season, is whether they're able to convert

0:23:48.520 --> 0:23:50.240
<v Speaker 3>on some of these plays or whether they continue to

0:23:50.320 --> 0:23:52.720
<v Speaker 3>kind of bounce around and tie some games and then

0:23:52.840 --> 0:23:55.920
<v Speaker 3>and then drop close ones, specifically when they play teams

0:23:55.920 --> 0:23:58.240
<v Speaker 3>that have special players that can you know, get one

0:23:58.320 --> 0:24:00.960
<v Speaker 3>chance and they convert. So I mean, that's that's really

0:24:01.000 --> 0:24:03.159
<v Speaker 3>where I see Bay is. I'm not really sure if

0:24:03.160 --> 0:24:06.240
<v Speaker 3>they're going to make that conversion into being a real

0:24:06.280 --> 0:24:09.080
<v Speaker 3>player that's going to challenge for a playoff spot. But

0:24:09.160 --> 0:24:11.760
<v Speaker 3>I think, you know, we get we get into late

0:24:11.880 --> 0:24:14.560
<v Speaker 3>later in twenty twenty six and the playoff picture starts

0:24:14.560 --> 0:24:16.600
<v Speaker 3>to form. I believe Orlando is going to be there.

0:24:17.400 --> 0:24:18.240
<v Speaker 2>You know what's kind of funny.

0:24:18.280 --> 0:24:20.480
<v Speaker 4>They remind me, I'm going to make a really weird

0:24:20.480 --> 0:24:22.720
<v Speaker 4>comparison here, but bear with me. They remind me a

0:24:22.720 --> 0:24:26.320
<v Speaker 4>lot of the San Jose Sharks NHL team, which is funny.

0:24:26.040 --> 0:24:27.440
<v Speaker 3>Because I'm not not going to know this.

0:24:27.680 --> 0:24:30.200
<v Speaker 2>They play right, like right across the street from each other.

0:24:30.520 --> 0:24:34.000
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, the San Jose Sharks are a lot of really

0:24:34.040 --> 0:24:37.320
<v Speaker 4>really young players who are really exciting and they want

0:24:37.359 --> 0:24:40.080
<v Speaker 4>to score like eight goals a game, and they typically

0:24:40.119 --> 0:24:41.680
<v Speaker 4>score about five goals a game.

0:24:41.760 --> 0:24:43.119
<v Speaker 2>The problem is they give up seven.

0:24:43.800 --> 0:24:47.000
<v Speaker 4>So a lot of youthful exuberance, a lot of talent

0:24:47.600 --> 0:24:50.640
<v Speaker 4>and the will to score, which give us give Seattle

0:24:50.640 --> 0:24:54.800
<v Speaker 4>some of that. We love that, but do very like

0:24:55.520 --> 0:24:58.640
<v Speaker 4>similar teams in completely different sports.

0:24:58.680 --> 0:25:00.520
<v Speaker 2>Interesting. Yeah, all right, more.

0:25:00.440 --> 0:25:03.640
<v Speaker 4>Across the league, Let's see Casey Current and Boston Legacy.

0:25:03.720 --> 0:25:06.400
<v Speaker 4>Casey coming out on top with that one with one

0:25:06.480 --> 0:25:10.440
<v Speaker 4>nil then we've got Denver Summit ending this half of

0:25:10.480 --> 0:25:13.880
<v Speaker 4>the season up one nil, over racing Louisville, who's obviously

0:25:13.880 --> 0:25:16.040
<v Speaker 4>at the bottom of the table. And this is a

0:25:16.080 --> 0:25:18.840
<v Speaker 4>game that I want to talk about, Chicago going down

0:25:19.040 --> 0:25:22.879
<v Speaker 4>two nils of San Diego Wave almost equalized and it

0:25:23.000 --> 0:25:26.040
<v Speaker 4>was almost one to one in the in the ninety

0:25:26.080 --> 0:25:30.200
<v Speaker 4>first minute plus stoppage Jordan Heidema actually scoring and then

0:25:31.000 --> 0:25:36.000
<v Speaker 4>devastation called back for offside and then of course, because

0:25:36.000 --> 0:25:39.920
<v Speaker 4>this is what always happens poetically, San Diego comes back

0:25:39.960 --> 0:25:41.640
<v Speaker 4>and scores and ice is the game too nil.

0:25:43.160 --> 0:25:46.920
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean it's been rough for Chicago. I mean,

0:25:47.240 --> 0:25:50.760
<v Speaker 3>I'm I'm glad they have now back. Shout out to

0:25:50.920 --> 0:25:54.200
<v Speaker 3>Jordan Tidema who this certainly had her moments this first

0:25:54.200 --> 0:25:58.800
<v Speaker 3>half of the year for Chicago. But yeah, I mean

0:25:58.880 --> 0:26:02.120
<v Speaker 3>it's the two zero score is a little bit deceiving.

0:26:02.200 --> 0:26:04.919
<v Speaker 3>I mean, the first goal for the Wave was what

0:26:05.000 --> 0:26:10.439
<v Speaker 3>in the third minute, right digna, You know, like, so

0:26:10.760 --> 0:26:13.840
<v Speaker 3>third minute goal, which is always deflating, and you've you've

0:26:13.880 --> 0:26:16.840
<v Speaker 3>had a rough go thus far, so now you're down

0:26:16.920 --> 0:26:19.159
<v Speaker 3>and you're not even five minutes in, and then the

0:26:19.200 --> 0:26:23.800
<v Speaker 3>second goal game transpires there are chances Chicago's in it,

0:26:24.119 --> 0:26:26.159
<v Speaker 3>you know, can maybe tie it up. And I mean

0:26:26.200 --> 0:26:29.399
<v Speaker 3>the the second goal was I mean, stoppage time was

0:26:29.880 --> 0:26:32.560
<v Speaker 3>very very long. Yeah, and it was well in stoppage time.

0:26:32.600 --> 0:26:35.240
<v Speaker 3>So I mean, really that game plays more like a

0:26:35.280 --> 0:26:37.320
<v Speaker 3>one to ohero or a one to one game. It's

0:26:37.359 --> 0:26:39.680
<v Speaker 3>unfortunate for Chicago they weren't able to make that one

0:26:39.760 --> 0:26:42.359
<v Speaker 3>one and then you know, make it a real exciting match.

0:26:42.359 --> 0:26:44.919
<v Speaker 3>They're on out and then you know you don't want

0:26:44.920 --> 0:26:46.480
<v Speaker 3>to go into the break giving up a goal in

0:26:46.520 --> 0:26:52.240
<v Speaker 3>the ninetieth plus thirteen minutes. But what that's not that's

0:26:52.240 --> 0:26:52.480
<v Speaker 3>a bar.

0:26:52.840 --> 0:26:55.480
<v Speaker 4>The goala called from VR too, like it called out

0:26:55.560 --> 0:26:56.679
<v Speaker 4>like they checked it on VR.

0:26:56.720 --> 0:27:01.240
<v Speaker 2>And that's when I got like it just men, that sucks.

0:27:01.960 --> 0:27:05.159
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, mentally, that totally sucks. And I mean that's you

0:27:05.160 --> 0:27:07.000
<v Speaker 3>can always turn that though. I mean I think of

0:27:07.080 --> 0:27:09.959
<v Speaker 3>like Chicago. Remember Chicago's second half of last year. They

0:27:10.040 --> 0:27:13.439
<v Speaker 3>ended up going on what became a tie spree. They

0:27:13.480 --> 0:27:15.800
<v Speaker 3>couldn't quite get wins, but they were getting lots of points,

0:27:15.800 --> 0:27:18.919
<v Speaker 3>which was making the playoff picture really murky because you know,

0:27:18.960 --> 0:27:22.120
<v Speaker 3>teams are you know, going to those games expecting although

0:27:22.160 --> 0:27:25.240
<v Speaker 3>they shouldn't to beat Chicago, and Chicago's pulling points over

0:27:25.320 --> 0:27:27.520
<v Speaker 3>and over and over, and at a point they were

0:27:27.520 --> 0:27:29.400
<v Speaker 3>getting so many ties that it looked like they might

0:27:29.520 --> 0:27:31.520
<v Speaker 3>start to, you know, if they got a few wins,

0:27:31.840 --> 0:27:35.040
<v Speaker 3>get into that playoff picture. So I think that that

0:27:35.119 --> 0:27:36.560
<v Speaker 3>has to be your narrative and that has to be

0:27:36.560 --> 0:27:38.439
<v Speaker 3>your goal going into the second half. If you're Chicago,

0:27:38.720 --> 0:27:40.320
<v Speaker 3>is just like, let's get a few wins and see

0:27:40.320 --> 0:27:43.960
<v Speaker 3>what happens. Utah did something similar last year, right, got

0:27:43.960 --> 0:27:47.440
<v Speaker 3>to the break and then got some opportunities after the break,

0:27:47.480 --> 0:27:50.560
<v Speaker 3>got to kind of reset, you know, didn't quite get

0:27:50.600 --> 0:27:54.720
<v Speaker 3>into the playoff picture, but got to make some changes

0:27:54.880 --> 0:27:57.879
<v Speaker 3>right going into the second half a little bit, getting

0:27:57.920 --> 0:28:00.800
<v Speaker 3>some more wins, getting some more opportunities, and playing quite well.

0:28:01.440 --> 0:28:03.720
<v Speaker 4>All right, let's take a little bit broader look at

0:28:03.760 --> 0:28:06.359
<v Speaker 4>this first half of the season for a second, Laura,

0:28:06.520 --> 0:28:09.120
<v Speaker 4>which teams have impressed you the most?

0:28:10.520 --> 0:28:11.760
<v Speaker 2>Let's start with impressed you the most?

0:28:11.760 --> 0:28:13.480
<v Speaker 4>And then I want to also ask what your biggest

0:28:13.480 --> 0:28:16.040
<v Speaker 4>surprise has been, So what team is impressed you the most?

0:28:16.080 --> 0:28:17.760
<v Speaker 2>And then what team has surprised you the most?

0:28:18.680 --> 0:28:22.840
<v Speaker 3>Umm? Impressed? God, that's a great, This is great. This

0:28:22.880 --> 0:28:27.760
<v Speaker 3>is so fun. Thanks, thanks, I love this. Uh it's interesting.

0:28:27.840 --> 0:28:30.960
<v Speaker 3>I although San Diego sits in first right now, I

0:28:31.000 --> 0:28:36.040
<v Speaker 3>wouldn't say them. I will say Utah and the Thorns

0:28:36.080 --> 0:28:40.800
<v Speaker 3>have been have been on point Tanaka midfield, like she

0:28:41.360 --> 0:28:43.640
<v Speaker 3>has really opened up the game for them. She's been

0:28:43.680 --> 0:28:46.520
<v Speaker 3>a great player for them, she always has been. But

0:28:47.360 --> 0:28:49.760
<v Speaker 3>in these moments where they have these attacks, you can

0:28:49.800 --> 0:28:53.080
<v Speaker 3>just tell she's facilitating and playing so well. You can

0:28:53.120 --> 0:28:55.040
<v Speaker 3>say the same thing for Moultrie, So you start to

0:28:55.080 --> 0:28:57.480
<v Speaker 3>see this theme of attacking mids who are playing very well.

0:28:57.520 --> 0:28:59.880
<v Speaker 3>You could say the same thing for fourth Washington Spirit Santo.

0:29:00.960 --> 0:29:03.760
<v Speaker 3>She's a playmaker, you know, no matter where she's out

0:29:03.760 --> 0:29:05.720
<v Speaker 3>on the field, she's gonna she's gonna create things. She's

0:29:05.720 --> 0:29:08.800
<v Speaker 3>gonna make plays, she's gonna find windows. She's often involved

0:29:08.800 --> 0:29:11.040
<v Speaker 3>when they play those sneaky little through balls that you know,

0:29:11.080 --> 0:29:14.960
<v Speaker 3>seem to be weighted just perfectly. And I now you know,

0:29:15.040 --> 0:29:18.720
<v Speaker 3>you look at the table, and now you get into

0:29:19.360 --> 0:29:23.280
<v Speaker 3>fifth Gotham, sixth Kansas City, and seventh with another one

0:29:23.320 --> 0:29:26.080
<v Speaker 3>of the leading scores in Nashally Sanchez, North Carolina behind

0:29:26.120 --> 0:29:27.120
<v Speaker 3>them Orlando.

0:29:26.760 --> 0:29:29.240
<v Speaker 2>Pride Murders in the middle.

0:29:29.400 --> 0:29:34.560
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's exactly where I'm going with this. So while

0:29:34.560 --> 0:29:36.720
<v Speaker 3>I think you Saw and Portland have been very impressive,

0:29:36.840 --> 0:29:39.160
<v Speaker 3>I think you've got the hard hitters, the heavy hitters

0:29:39.160 --> 0:29:41.880
<v Speaker 3>in Washington, Gotham and Casey right behind you at four,

0:29:41.920 --> 0:29:45.480
<v Speaker 3>five and six. And let's remember the Shawingo is out.

0:29:46.160 --> 0:29:50.400
<v Speaker 3>Gotham almost famously now starts a little bit slow, and

0:29:50.400 --> 0:29:52.959
<v Speaker 3>then and then last year goes and wins a championship.

0:29:53.280 --> 0:29:55.080
<v Speaker 3>And then you've got Washington Spirit that have been in

0:29:55.120 --> 0:29:59.520
<v Speaker 3>some finals but haven't haven't gotten the trophy yet. So

0:29:59.800 --> 0:30:01.040
<v Speaker 3>I'm I mean, those are my ones that I'm going

0:30:01.120 --> 0:30:03.239
<v Speaker 3>to look out for. But if we're just judging by

0:30:03.240 --> 0:30:04.880
<v Speaker 3>the first half of the season, I would say, you know,

0:30:05.000 --> 0:30:07.560
<v Speaker 3>Utah and Portland hats off. They've done very well.

0:30:08.200 --> 0:30:10.960
<v Speaker 4>Utah has really impressed me. They're probably my biggest surprise

0:30:11.080 --> 0:30:15.080
<v Speaker 4>as well. And there's no other reason other than Utah

0:30:15.120 --> 0:30:17.680
<v Speaker 4>teams I just look past every year and there's no

0:30:17.800 --> 0:30:21.160
<v Speaker 4>shade to this roster. It's not She's like my favorite

0:30:21.200 --> 0:30:23.120
<v Speaker 4>player who's not on the rain. To be honest with you,

0:30:23.200 --> 0:30:26.080
<v Speaker 4>I love watching her play. I think that she is

0:30:26.200 --> 0:30:28.720
<v Speaker 4>so good at putting herself in the right positions and

0:30:28.760 --> 0:30:31.479
<v Speaker 4>being relentless, and I hear a lot of announcers be like, oh,

0:30:31.560 --> 0:30:33.680
<v Speaker 4>look good, she created her on luck there da dada.

0:30:33.680 --> 0:30:36.160
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, yeah, she created.

0:30:37.200 --> 0:30:41.480
<v Speaker 4>The luck, she redated it because she was so relentless.

0:30:41.480 --> 0:30:43.200
<v Speaker 2>And she just reminds me of a Tasmanian double.

0:30:43.240 --> 0:30:44.880
<v Speaker 4>Whenever I'm watching, I'm just like, this is just a

0:30:44.880 --> 0:30:47.560
<v Speaker 4>Tasmanian double, and she's going to attack and win every

0:30:47.600 --> 0:30:51.600
<v Speaker 4>single ball, Yeah, against three or four other defenders.

0:30:52.040 --> 0:30:55.080
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, busy effective finds. I mean, we were just talking

0:30:55.080 --> 0:30:59.000
<v Speaker 3>about Moultrie finds these spots is a magnet just for space,

0:31:00.560 --> 0:31:03.880
<v Speaker 3>you know, pulls away into into really dangerous areas when

0:31:04.400 --> 0:31:07.040
<v Speaker 3>the opponent isn't looking. Just has an ability to know like,

0:31:07.040 --> 0:31:09.360
<v Speaker 3>oh you turn your head, I'm you're gonna lose me.

0:31:09.520 --> 0:31:13.040
<v Speaker 3>And it happens over and over and over. So yeah,

0:31:13.160 --> 0:31:15.480
<v Speaker 3>very exciting to watch. But you know you got to

0:31:15.480 --> 0:31:17.800
<v Speaker 3>watch out. You got Shwena coming back who's had seven

0:31:17.840 --> 0:31:19.840
<v Speaker 3>goals and I'm gonna go with what like four maybe

0:31:19.880 --> 0:31:25.120
<v Speaker 3>five games coming back, So you know, she's she's picking

0:31:25.200 --> 0:31:27.160
<v Speaker 3>up for a lots of time. She always will she

0:31:27.440 --> 0:31:29.880
<v Speaker 3>I mean, whether she's in or out, as soon as

0:31:29.880 --> 0:31:33.760
<v Speaker 3>she comes back, she's going to be impactful. Yeah, so

0:31:33.800 --> 0:31:36.320
<v Speaker 3>I'm really kind of eyeing that four, five and six

0:31:36.400 --> 0:31:38.720
<v Speaker 3>spot right now, as you know, some teams that are

0:31:38.720 --> 0:31:42.959
<v Speaker 3>going to make a surge in Gotham Casey and Washington Spirit.

0:31:43.640 --> 0:31:45.720
<v Speaker 3>And then of course the playoff line is is really

0:31:45.760 --> 0:31:49.840
<v Speaker 3>interesting again. And you know, this is where I think

0:31:50.040 --> 0:31:51.680
<v Speaker 3>the second half of the season again for the Rain

0:31:51.720 --> 0:31:54.360
<v Speaker 3>and we're seeing some parallels here right We're talking about,

0:31:54.440 --> 0:31:57.000
<v Speaker 3>you know, teams that turned corners and had a different

0:31:57.000 --> 0:32:00.920
<v Speaker 3>second half than they did first half. Rain sitting in tenth.

0:32:01.120 --> 0:32:03.960
<v Speaker 3>I mean, you're gonna hopefully fingers crossed and I don't

0:32:04.000 --> 0:32:06.640
<v Speaker 3>know where she's at in rehab, but maybe Jess fishlock back,

0:32:06.800 --> 0:32:10.200
<v Speaker 3>hopefully sooner than later. I think that's something you can

0:32:10.280 --> 0:32:13.959
<v Speaker 3>equate to in a different way. But scores, goals, creates

0:32:13.960 --> 0:32:18.440
<v Speaker 3>obviously impact player, captain she comes in, that's gonna be

0:32:18.440 --> 0:32:20.360
<v Speaker 3>a big surge. And then you've got you know, some

0:32:20.400 --> 0:32:22.479
<v Speaker 3>of the teams we've talked about Denver Summit, you know,

0:32:22.560 --> 0:32:24.920
<v Speaker 3>as an expansion team, can they turn that corner and

0:32:25.040 --> 0:32:27.360
<v Speaker 3>be a playoff team right off the bat? And then

0:32:27.400 --> 0:32:31.320
<v Speaker 3>you've got Orlando. I mean Orlando's always in or around finals.

0:32:31.680 --> 0:32:35.280
<v Speaker 3>They always seem to be making bangs happen. So I mean,

0:32:35.400 --> 0:32:38.160
<v Speaker 3>very very interesting table going into the next part of

0:32:38.160 --> 0:32:38.560
<v Speaker 3>the season.

0:32:40.920 --> 0:32:43.200
<v Speaker 4>I was just about to bring up Just Fishlock because

0:32:44.160 --> 0:32:46.720
<v Speaker 4>your discussion about the importance of that, you know, attacking

0:32:46.760 --> 0:32:49.600
<v Speaker 4>ten or that attacking midfielder, and we've been missing just Fishlock.

0:32:49.960 --> 0:32:51.560
<v Speaker 4>And if you saw, I mean the beginning of the season,

0:32:51.640 --> 0:32:53.840
<v Speaker 4>our attack was really firing on a lot of cylinders

0:32:53.920 --> 0:32:55.880
<v Speaker 4>or creating a lot of chances when we were scoring.

0:32:55.960 --> 0:32:58.880
<v Speaker 2>And then she left there a wentz.

0:32:59.440 --> 0:33:01.880
<v Speaker 4>You know, we've gutted it out and we've looked good

0:33:01.920 --> 0:33:05.280
<v Speaker 4>and we've done I really feel like well without her,

0:33:05.720 --> 0:33:07.240
<v Speaker 4>But yeah, it's going to be better with her.

0:33:08.360 --> 0:33:12.480
<v Speaker 3>Well, certainly. I mean the obvious example right now is

0:33:12.600 --> 0:33:14.880
<v Speaker 3>Casey Current. I mean, how many goals were they giving

0:33:14.960 --> 0:33:17.120
<v Speaker 3>up in the first five games of the season. They

0:33:17.120 --> 0:33:19.160
<v Speaker 3>were giving up goals. They couldn't quite put it together.

0:33:19.240 --> 0:33:20.920
<v Speaker 2>I mean the spoken.

0:33:21.200 --> 0:33:25.840
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, absolutely right. And then you know, and as as

0:33:25.880 --> 0:33:28.800
<v Speaker 3>a club you look forward to that, I mean, as

0:33:29.120 --> 0:33:31.840
<v Speaker 3>everybody's gonna look forward to Jess Fishlock's return. Well, same

0:33:31.920 --> 0:33:33.760
<v Speaker 3>with us shawinga right she comes back, You're like, oh,

0:33:33.840 --> 0:33:35.840
<v Speaker 3>here we go. Now that final piece where we know

0:33:35.920 --> 0:33:37.840
<v Speaker 3>exactly where to play her the ball, rather than having

0:33:37.840 --> 0:33:39.920
<v Speaker 3>to reconfigure where no one's quite like her and has

0:33:39.920 --> 0:33:43.200
<v Speaker 3>a skill set. How do we manufacture and reconfigure so

0:33:43.240 --> 0:33:45.760
<v Speaker 3>that we create the scoring chances we got with showinga Well,

0:33:45.800 --> 0:33:47.400
<v Speaker 3>you don't have to do that anymore. You just go

0:33:47.440 --> 0:33:48.600
<v Speaker 3>back to it. Well, this is what we did, this

0:33:48.640 --> 0:33:50.959
<v Speaker 3>is how it worked, and right, it's a little more natural.

0:33:51.280 --> 0:33:53.880
<v Speaker 3>I think something similar happens when Jeff Fishlock comes back,

0:33:54.040 --> 0:33:55.720
<v Speaker 3>just because I mean, if you look at the beginning

0:33:55.760 --> 0:33:58.040
<v Speaker 3>of the season, how many goals the rain were scoring,

0:33:58.080 --> 0:33:59.960
<v Speaker 3>how well they were doing in the attack. The chance

0:34:00.120 --> 0:34:03.160
<v Speaker 3>is created, and I don't think I have a little

0:34:03.200 --> 0:34:04.960
<v Speaker 3>bit different perspective on it than I think some of

0:34:05.000 --> 0:34:07.680
<v Speaker 3>the narratives that I hear. I haven't seen that they

0:34:07.760 --> 0:34:10.080
<v Speaker 3>aren't creating any attack. I just see that they are

0:34:10.120 --> 0:34:13.360
<v Speaker 3>not finishing, and sometimes they aren't as dynamic in the

0:34:13.360 --> 0:34:15.719
<v Speaker 3>final third as they have to be. I love Mercado's

0:34:16.080 --> 0:34:18.799
<v Speaker 3>work great. She will create things just off of being

0:34:18.840 --> 0:34:21.440
<v Speaker 3>tough and getting in spots. Not to mention her talent.

0:34:21.760 --> 0:34:23.840
<v Speaker 3>I really like DeLine in the last two games. I

0:34:23.840 --> 0:34:25.560
<v Speaker 3>feel like she was a little bit more dynamic and

0:34:25.600 --> 0:34:28.080
<v Speaker 3>different and then I believe for the first time we

0:34:28.120 --> 0:34:31.920
<v Speaker 3>saw our first same lineups back to back for the

0:34:32.000 --> 0:34:35.840
<v Speaker 3>Rain in these last two games. So, you know, getting

0:34:35.840 --> 0:34:38.120
<v Speaker 3>the win, Laura Harvey decided we're gonna put the same

0:34:38.120 --> 0:34:41.040
<v Speaker 3>people back on, and I'm excited to see if somebody

0:34:41.080 --> 0:34:44.520
<v Speaker 3>like a Ward steps in and changes games, if Adamis

0:34:44.520 --> 0:34:46.719
<v Speaker 3>starts to score goals again like she did, and we

0:34:46.760 --> 0:34:49.040
<v Speaker 3>talked about me official, you know, she turns the corner

0:34:49.040 --> 0:34:50.919
<v Speaker 3>and she starts. I think she gets her first one.

0:34:51.000 --> 0:34:52.319
<v Speaker 3>I think she gets her first one. I think she

0:34:52.360 --> 0:34:54.360
<v Speaker 3>gets more, and it's just about breaking that barrier.

0:34:54.800 --> 0:34:56.279
<v Speaker 4>Well, and I'd like what I have seen from her

0:34:56.320 --> 0:34:59.160
<v Speaker 4>on the field, like, yes, she's her whole up play

0:34:59.160 --> 0:35:01.960
<v Speaker 4>has been great. She's been a lynchpin in terms of

0:35:01.960 --> 0:35:05.400
<v Speaker 4>getting the attack moving, and she's been great defensively and

0:35:05.400 --> 0:35:07.360
<v Speaker 4>playing all facets of the game.

0:35:07.560 --> 0:35:09.279
<v Speaker 2>So you know, yes, she hasn't.

0:35:09.000 --> 0:35:12.000
<v Speaker 4>Scored yet, but I think it's important to look at

0:35:12.120 --> 0:35:13.960
<v Speaker 4>her effectiveness outside of just scoring.

0:35:14.960 --> 0:35:17.680
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, agreed. I was impressed with with her hold up

0:35:17.680 --> 0:35:21.000
<v Speaker 3>play in the nine, her defensive work rate. She was

0:35:21.080 --> 0:35:25.560
<v Speaker 3>creating awkward situations for the opponents, putting them in difficult spots,

0:35:25.640 --> 0:35:27.800
<v Speaker 3>not allowing them to get into the flow of their attack,

0:35:28.520 --> 0:35:31.000
<v Speaker 3>which is something really special out of an attacker and

0:35:31.080 --> 0:35:33.759
<v Speaker 3>a nine. If you can have attackers and somebody like

0:35:33.800 --> 0:35:36.440
<v Speaker 3>Me Official who puts that work in on the defensive

0:35:36.480 --> 0:35:39.640
<v Speaker 3>side as well and creates opportunities out of that for

0:35:39.680 --> 0:35:42.719
<v Speaker 3>herself and her teammates, that's a big bonus. And so

0:35:43.000 --> 0:35:44.840
<v Speaker 3>I believe in the second half the season we're going

0:35:44.920 --> 0:35:46.480
<v Speaker 3>to see some of the fruits of that labor.

0:35:47.520 --> 0:35:49.839
<v Speaker 4>Another thing about Me Official, and this is my pet

0:35:49.880 --> 0:35:54.160
<v Speaker 4>peeve with just nine's in general, is they have the

0:35:54.200 --> 0:35:58.719
<v Speaker 4>most obvious body language of all time. You know when

0:35:59.040 --> 0:36:02.560
<v Speaker 4>a Diva nine is not playing up to what they

0:36:02.600 --> 0:36:04.799
<v Speaker 4>want to do and is not scoring and da da

0:36:04.880 --> 0:36:07.920
<v Speaker 4>da da all the things. Her body language is fantastic

0:36:08.120 --> 0:36:10.200
<v Speaker 4>and she's part of the team, and I have not

0:36:10.280 --> 0:36:12.719
<v Speaker 4>seen a single I just hate that.

0:36:13.000 --> 0:36:15.880
<v Speaker 2>I hate watching that so much. Like dude, it's not

0:36:15.960 --> 0:36:18.919
<v Speaker 2>about you right now, it's about the team. The team

0:36:19.120 --> 0:36:19.759
<v Speaker 2>talk about you.

0:36:20.640 --> 0:36:23.160
<v Speaker 3>I think that's hard as a nine, specifically in the

0:36:23.200 --> 0:36:25.799
<v Speaker 3>middle third, is that you're so reliant on the entry

0:36:25.840 --> 0:36:29.239
<v Speaker 3>pass or where the ball's coming from right, so you're

0:36:29.280 --> 0:36:32.600
<v Speaker 3>constantly scheming. Whereas this if your team hasn't been possessing

0:36:32.640 --> 0:36:36.120
<v Speaker 3>well and effectively in a game, you're constantly guessing, right,

0:36:36.520 --> 0:36:38.799
<v Speaker 3>so you're it makes it look like you're out of

0:36:38.800 --> 0:36:42.520
<v Speaker 3>position a lot, and arguably you are, but really it's

0:36:42.560 --> 0:36:45.280
<v Speaker 3>the unpredictability of not being able to keep the ball

0:36:45.520 --> 0:36:47.719
<v Speaker 3>that creates this dynamic where you're like, well, should I

0:36:47.800 --> 0:36:49.279
<v Speaker 3>pull away? Are they going to have the ball? Or

0:36:49.440 --> 0:36:51.000
<v Speaker 3>do I need to check because they're going to be

0:36:51.080 --> 0:36:54.120
<v Speaker 3>under pressure, And those are the decisions you're constantly making,

0:36:54.160 --> 0:36:56.399
<v Speaker 3>and they're they're very different. Right, if somebody has the ball,

0:36:56.400 --> 0:36:59.640
<v Speaker 3>clearly you can pull away because they don't need short support, right,

0:36:59.680 --> 0:37:01.560
<v Speaker 3>they can maybe play you behind they had the time

0:37:01.600 --> 0:37:03.920
<v Speaker 3>and the space to do it. If a ten or

0:37:03.960 --> 0:37:07.960
<v Speaker 3>a mid midfielder is under pressure, now that dynamic changes.

0:37:08.000 --> 0:37:09.840
<v Speaker 3>Now you have to check to the ball. Now it

0:37:09.880 --> 0:37:11.840
<v Speaker 3>has to be a completely different run. You thought you

0:37:11.920 --> 0:37:14.160
<v Speaker 3>might get in behind on a sprint. Now you're checking

0:37:14.239 --> 0:37:16.160
<v Speaker 3>and giving your feet or you're holding somebody off and

0:37:16.200 --> 0:37:19.400
<v Speaker 3>showing your feet. Right, So, if your team's not possessing

0:37:19.480 --> 0:37:20.920
<v Speaker 3>or is just having a hard time with that and

0:37:21.000 --> 0:37:23.120
<v Speaker 3>balls are just bouncing forward, or most of the balls

0:37:23.160 --> 0:37:26.080
<v Speaker 3>you're receiving are from like a goalkeeper's punt some kind

0:37:26.080 --> 0:37:29.680
<v Speaker 3>of that scenario, a goalkick. Those are really difficult balls

0:37:29.680 --> 0:37:32.000
<v Speaker 3>to handle, given somebody's always on your back and there's

0:37:32.000 --> 0:37:34.080
<v Speaker 3>always somebody directly in front of you, and sometimes you're

0:37:34.520 --> 0:37:38.600
<v Speaker 3>kind of surrounded by two or three. But you know,

0:37:38.680 --> 0:37:42.000
<v Speaker 3>when nine's effectively hold up the ball like we've seen Mercado,

0:37:42.080 --> 0:37:45.040
<v Speaker 3>like we've seen Fish'll do, it completely changes the game.

0:37:45.120 --> 0:37:47.080
<v Speaker 3>And you saw that early in the season, specifically with

0:37:47.080 --> 0:37:50.680
<v Speaker 3>the dynamic of Jess Fishlock and Infishal finding her in

0:37:50.680 --> 0:37:52.840
<v Speaker 3>those early games she was able to hold up the

0:37:52.880 --> 0:37:54.920
<v Speaker 3>ball and then not only was she able to get

0:37:54.920 --> 0:37:57.239
<v Speaker 3>a ball that was predictable that she could hold and

0:37:57.280 --> 0:38:00.920
<v Speaker 3>allow the team to attack, she also had really obvious

0:38:01.120 --> 0:38:03.879
<v Speaker 3>runs that she could play right so she could find

0:38:03.880 --> 0:38:05.759
<v Speaker 3>somebody on the run and then she could spin out

0:38:05.800 --> 0:38:07.520
<v Speaker 3>and get further up the field. And it's all about

0:38:07.520 --> 0:38:10.120
<v Speaker 3>getting numbers up the field, and really an effective nine

0:38:10.120 --> 0:38:12.840
<v Speaker 3>allows you to do that. So the more me Official

0:38:12.880 --> 0:38:15.880
<v Speaker 3>and Mercado get into form of, you know, making that

0:38:15.960 --> 0:38:19.520
<v Speaker 3>consistent and the team finding them consistently in the spots

0:38:19.560 --> 0:38:22.280
<v Speaker 3>that they're checking to the ball, the better they attack

0:38:22.400 --> 0:38:23.000
<v Speaker 3>is going to flow.

0:38:23.840 --> 0:38:26.239
<v Speaker 4>Let's talk a little bit more because I've always been

0:38:26.280 --> 0:38:29.040
<v Speaker 4>curious about this as a non player who just loves

0:38:29.040 --> 0:38:34.200
<v Speaker 4>watching and appreciating the art form of being a hold

0:38:34.280 --> 0:38:38.279
<v Speaker 4>up player and playing back to goal and muscling your

0:38:38.320 --> 0:38:40.239
<v Speaker 4>way through and the importance of.

0:38:40.200 --> 0:38:43.280
<v Speaker 2>That, because I think a lot.

0:38:43.120 --> 0:38:47.479
<v Speaker 4>Of fans, just in my experience, amongst the fans, it's

0:38:47.719 --> 0:38:51.000
<v Speaker 4>almost looked at as well, this person who's.

0:38:50.880 --> 0:38:53.600
<v Speaker 2>Big and just physical, why aren't they just holding it up?

0:38:54.360 --> 0:38:57.480
<v Speaker 2>Why can't they just be a hold up forward? So

0:38:57.600 --> 0:39:00.160
<v Speaker 2>much more complex than that, Laura, you are the expert.

0:39:00.280 --> 0:39:04.680
<v Speaker 4>Can you explain to fans who may be underestimating the

0:39:04.719 --> 0:39:07.680
<v Speaker 4>talent and the skill and the technical ability that it

0:39:07.719 --> 0:39:08.960
<v Speaker 4>takes to be a hold up forward.

0:39:09.960 --> 0:39:11.879
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean there's a couple of ways you can

0:39:11.920 --> 0:39:15.080
<v Speaker 3>do it. I think that the most the one you

0:39:15.120 --> 0:39:17.520
<v Speaker 3>see most commonly is, you know, a player that gets

0:39:17.520 --> 0:39:20.560
<v Speaker 3>into position, posts up on a center back and then

0:39:20.680 --> 0:39:22.520
<v Speaker 3>is you know, in some way or another holding them

0:39:22.520 --> 0:39:24.560
<v Speaker 3>off or keeping them behind them so that they show

0:39:24.560 --> 0:39:27.360
<v Speaker 3>their feet. So the reason why it's so difficult to

0:39:27.400 --> 0:39:29.840
<v Speaker 3>play is, you know, you could put yourself in that position.

0:39:30.080 --> 0:39:32.600
<v Speaker 3>You're a nine. You just post it up. You got

0:39:32.600 --> 0:39:34.880
<v Speaker 3>to the ball side of the defender, which is, you know,

0:39:34.960 --> 0:39:36.839
<v Speaker 3>the side of the ball's on right. So if you're

0:39:36.840 --> 0:39:39.279
<v Speaker 3>a midfielder has the ball, you don't want to be

0:39:39.360 --> 0:39:41.600
<v Speaker 3>on the far side of that defender because the defender

0:39:41.640 --> 0:39:43.960
<v Speaker 3>will then have the angle to intercept the pass. So

0:39:44.000 --> 0:39:45.560
<v Speaker 3>you have to get on the near side of them

0:39:45.560 --> 0:39:47.360
<v Speaker 3>and do the work. Then you have to do the

0:39:47.360 --> 0:39:50.280
<v Speaker 3>physical labor to hold them back because now it's a battle.

0:39:50.320 --> 0:39:51.799
<v Speaker 3>They're going to try to fight through you to that

0:39:51.840 --> 0:39:53.680
<v Speaker 3>ball and get the angle, and you're going to try

0:39:53.680 --> 0:39:55.360
<v Speaker 3>to keep them behind you and fight to keep the

0:39:55.760 --> 0:39:59.279
<v Speaker 3>angle hole. So in that battle, it's it's very difficult.

0:39:59.320 --> 0:40:01.960
<v Speaker 3>Now imagine and you've fought for that space you've gotten

0:40:01.960 --> 0:40:05.160
<v Speaker 3>in front, you're holding off a human right, they're trying

0:40:05.200 --> 0:40:07.200
<v Speaker 3>to get into your space. Now it's a little bit

0:40:07.320 --> 0:40:10.000
<v Speaker 3>a little bit of a like it's not a wrestling match,

0:40:10.000 --> 0:40:13.440
<v Speaker 3>but it is. So you're physically holding them back. Now,

0:40:13.520 --> 0:40:16.760
<v Speaker 3>imagine that ball goes over your head and behind the backs, right,

0:40:17.200 --> 0:40:19.120
<v Speaker 3>So you've done all this work, you've gotten to the space,

0:40:19.160 --> 0:40:21.760
<v Speaker 3>you've shown your feet, and now the ball goes somewhere else. Okay,

0:40:21.800 --> 0:40:25.560
<v Speaker 3>so now you're completely out of position. So that's why

0:40:25.600 --> 0:40:28.480
<v Speaker 3>possession is so important is that if like let's say

0:40:28.480 --> 0:40:30.160
<v Speaker 3>the ball is at where's his feet and she's going

0:40:30.200 --> 0:40:33.160
<v Speaker 3>to play an entry pass into me official. Well if

0:40:33.200 --> 0:40:35.560
<v Speaker 3>me official gets on the ball side of the defender

0:40:35.600 --> 0:40:37.400
<v Speaker 3>and does that work and is in a good spot

0:40:37.920 --> 0:40:40.759
<v Speaker 3>and then she's able to play a pass forward, well

0:40:40.800 --> 0:40:43.440
<v Speaker 3>it starts to become more predictable as that ball is

0:40:43.480 --> 0:40:48.880
<v Speaker 3>traveling and attacking mid a mentee McCammon, official, sorry, not official,

0:40:49.520 --> 0:40:52.759
<v Speaker 3>fish lock. Now those players that bass is going in,

0:40:53.000 --> 0:40:55.520
<v Speaker 3>they know Mercado or official is going to receive it.

0:40:55.960 --> 0:40:59.319
<v Speaker 3>Now they can design their runs now they know where

0:40:59.360 --> 0:41:01.399
<v Speaker 3>they need to go to create the next pass, which

0:41:01.440 --> 0:41:04.000
<v Speaker 3>is often the pass that then unlocks the next attack forward,

0:41:04.080 --> 0:41:08.799
<v Speaker 3>the next run. So when that's not predictable, and let's

0:41:08.840 --> 0:41:11.560
<v Speaker 3>say again that nine is posted up, now the ball

0:41:11.600 --> 0:41:15.080
<v Speaker 3>goes in behind rather than to their feet. Now you're

0:41:15.160 --> 0:41:18.200
<v Speaker 3>chasing the game because the opponent had all those angles

0:41:18.200 --> 0:41:20.080
<v Speaker 3>taken care of, because you were doing all the work

0:41:20.120 --> 0:41:22.600
<v Speaker 3>to create an angle in front. That's where you wanted

0:41:22.600 --> 0:41:25.439
<v Speaker 3>to create the space. And it's really a chess match

0:41:25.480 --> 0:41:28.239
<v Speaker 3>in that way of you know, pulling away from the

0:41:28.280 --> 0:41:30.680
<v Speaker 3>defender then checking too. That's another way you can play

0:41:30.680 --> 0:41:32.600
<v Speaker 3>the nine, you don't necessarily just have to stand and

0:41:32.640 --> 0:41:35.480
<v Speaker 3>hold them up and make it a physical battle. Often

0:41:35.520 --> 0:41:39.240
<v Speaker 3>in those situations, you're intentionally standing in an offside position

0:41:40.000 --> 0:41:42.040
<v Speaker 3>until the time where you're going to receive the ball.

0:41:42.280 --> 0:41:44.680
<v Speaker 3>You establish an on side position and then you make

0:41:44.719 --> 0:41:47.399
<v Speaker 3>a run. So you're constantly playing a cat and mouse

0:41:47.440 --> 0:41:49.759
<v Speaker 3>game of you see me, now you don't, and you

0:41:49.760 --> 0:41:52.440
<v Speaker 3>don't know where I'm gonna pop out at as opposed

0:41:52.480 --> 0:41:55.200
<v Speaker 3>to a traditional you know, like big post up where

0:41:55.200 --> 0:41:59.080
<v Speaker 3>you're like, I'm here, what do you do about it?

0:42:00.800 --> 0:42:03.120
<v Speaker 3>I mean, think about like in Abby Womback, who is

0:42:03.200 --> 0:42:05.839
<v Speaker 3>you know, like so tall? She was gonna do that

0:42:06.120 --> 0:42:08.000
<v Speaker 3>and then she was gonna get in the box and

0:42:08.040 --> 0:42:11.160
<v Speaker 3>then do something else in the air. Right. That was

0:42:11.320 --> 0:42:15.960
<v Speaker 3>very much the dominant part of her game. Heidema did

0:42:16.000 --> 0:42:18.399
<v Speaker 3>that to some extent. Sometimes she would want to get

0:42:18.400 --> 0:42:21.240
<v Speaker 3>in behind, didn't always have the pace to play that game.

0:42:22.080 --> 0:42:25.080
<v Speaker 3>But when she was effective holding up, we had some

0:42:25.120 --> 0:42:27.680
<v Speaker 3>really good run of play. She's doing that a little

0:42:27.680 --> 0:42:30.680
<v Speaker 3>bit with Chicago. But yeah, when you when you have

0:42:30.760 --> 0:42:33.640
<v Speaker 3>a good nine that can hold up play, it can

0:42:33.680 --> 0:42:38.239
<v Speaker 3>really unlock the attack. Now you can Jex's position the

0:42:38.280 --> 0:42:41.840
<v Speaker 3>opposite of that would be like shwinga Okay, she's just

0:42:41.840 --> 0:42:44.080
<v Speaker 3>gonna run across you and she's gonna pull away from you,

0:42:44.120 --> 0:42:46.960
<v Speaker 3>and she's gonna say catch me, good luck. She's not

0:42:47.000 --> 0:42:49.239
<v Speaker 3>gonna mess around necessarily with posting up a whole lot,

0:42:49.280 --> 0:42:51.080
<v Speaker 3>although she's strong enough to do it, and you'll see

0:42:51.080 --> 0:42:53.359
<v Speaker 3>her do it once in a while. Often she'll post up.

0:42:53.480 --> 0:42:56.000
<v Speaker 3>Not get it, you want to see that attacking mid.

0:42:56.080 --> 0:42:58.440
<v Speaker 3>She's just gonna be excited when she sees that attacking

0:42:58.440 --> 0:43:01.279
<v Speaker 3>MIDHF space. She's gonna pull wide and she's going to

0:43:01.320 --> 0:43:03.080
<v Speaker 3>create space and then look for the ball and behind.

0:43:03.320 --> 0:43:05.359
<v Speaker 3>So she might fake that she's going to post up,

0:43:05.640 --> 0:43:07.239
<v Speaker 3>or she might post up once in a while just

0:43:07.239 --> 0:43:09.319
<v Speaker 3>because the game needs it. But she's a player that

0:43:09.360 --> 0:43:11.239
<v Speaker 3>wants to be faced forward, just you know, getting the

0:43:11.239 --> 0:43:11.840
<v Speaker 3>ball in behind.

0:43:12.360 --> 0:43:15.759
<v Speaker 4>That's to me expresses the importance of having so many

0:43:15.760 --> 0:43:19.640
<v Speaker 4>tools in your toolbox. Yeah, because oh, you beat her

0:43:19.640 --> 0:43:21.719
<v Speaker 4>this way, Oh, but she can also beat you three

0:43:21.840 --> 0:43:23.160
<v Speaker 4>or four other different ways.

0:43:23.840 --> 0:43:26.399
<v Speaker 3>Well, I mean, it's that's why. I mean people say

0:43:26.400 --> 0:43:27.719
<v Speaker 3>it and I think maybe we just said it, but

0:43:27.920 --> 0:43:30.040
<v Speaker 3>that's why it's a chess match, right. Your pond does

0:43:30.080 --> 0:43:34.000
<v Speaker 3>something different than your queen does something different than your bishop, right,

0:43:34.040 --> 0:43:36.919
<v Speaker 3>they're all you know, one can only go straightforward, right,

0:43:37.000 --> 0:43:39.560
<v Speaker 3>and one can go all the directions. And you know,

0:43:39.680 --> 0:43:44.759
<v Speaker 3>the king, what's he doing? Like he's just he can't

0:43:44.800 --> 0:43:46.240
<v Speaker 3>he can barely move right.

0:43:46.080 --> 0:43:48.040
<v Speaker 2>So does all the work and the king.

0:43:49.360 --> 0:43:52.279
<v Speaker 4>But the game still ends when the king dies, even

0:43:52.280 --> 0:43:53.560
<v Speaker 4>though the queen is doing all the work.

0:43:56.239 --> 0:43:58.719
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean, like the king might be her post

0:43:58.800 --> 0:44:00.640
<v Speaker 3>up and the queen might be here your ten or

0:44:00.719 --> 0:44:04.200
<v Speaker 3>your your runner. But that's that's what it is. Is.

0:44:04.360 --> 0:44:06.160
<v Speaker 3>You know, in the game of chess, you've got these

0:44:06.160 --> 0:44:08.560
<v Speaker 3>pieces and I'm not like a chess expert, but obviously

0:44:08.719 --> 0:44:11.759
<v Speaker 3>they have different skill sets and you're just trying to

0:44:11.800 --> 0:44:15.040
<v Speaker 3>fit them together to establish a style of play, and

0:44:15.120 --> 0:44:17.120
<v Speaker 3>so it's predictable so your team can get kind of

0:44:17.200 --> 0:44:19.200
<v Speaker 3>some kind of rhythm in the attack. And that's really

0:44:19.239 --> 0:44:19.959
<v Speaker 3>the name of the game.

0:44:21.000 --> 0:44:25.880
<v Speaker 2>Okay, let's transition to some US men's national team results

0:44:25.880 --> 0:44:28.520
<v Speaker 2>and news and talk, just because the World Cup is

0:44:28.600 --> 0:44:32.360
<v Speaker 2>literally tomorrow almost not literally tomorrow, but it's very close.

0:44:32.719 --> 0:44:33.640
<v Speaker 3>It is. It's awesome.

0:44:33.640 --> 0:44:34.720
<v Speaker 2>All the friendlies.

0:44:34.360 --> 0:44:37.799
<v Speaker 4>Tomorrow, all the friendlies are now happening. Us coming out

0:44:37.840 --> 0:44:42.560
<v Speaker 4>with a three to win over Senegal. My personal favorite

0:44:42.600 --> 0:44:45.200
<v Speaker 4>player on the US men's national team other than Christian

0:44:45.239 --> 0:44:47.600
<v Speaker 4>Roland of course, yeah, of course Christian Roland is my

0:44:47.600 --> 0:44:51.040
<v Speaker 4>favorite player, but your guest is my second favorite player.

0:44:51.320 --> 0:44:53.880
<v Speaker 4>I love him in the last World Cup cycle. I

0:44:53.920 --> 0:44:55.920
<v Speaker 4>love when we have a really great fullback who can

0:44:55.960 --> 0:44:58.600
<v Speaker 4>attack and not just a fullback who can you know,

0:44:58.719 --> 0:45:01.280
<v Speaker 4>play on the wings, but he side a lot.

0:45:01.960 --> 0:45:03.680
<v Speaker 2>He's he goes wherever.

0:45:03.760 --> 0:45:05.680
<v Speaker 4>He kind of is a Nico Ladero in that way,

0:45:05.719 --> 0:45:07.800
<v Speaker 4>but he's playing as a wing back like it was,

0:45:07.840 --> 0:45:09.399
<v Speaker 4>wherever he wants, and I love it.

0:45:10.400 --> 0:45:13.160
<v Speaker 3>I love that he has that freedom. It's fun to watch. Yeah,

0:45:13.200 --> 0:45:16.319
<v Speaker 3>it makes I mean for people who really enjoy the

0:45:16.320 --> 0:45:18.799
<v Speaker 3>game and look at the starting formation and then how

0:45:19.239 --> 0:45:22.160
<v Speaker 3>it's utilized through you know, styles of play. What a

0:45:22.160 --> 0:45:24.560
<v Speaker 3>fun player to watch from where his starting position is,

0:45:24.640 --> 0:45:26.719
<v Speaker 3>and then the freedom he's allowed to then do those

0:45:26.800 --> 0:45:29.440
<v Speaker 3>kinds of things. It's unique to you know, and special

0:45:29.440 --> 0:45:31.319
<v Speaker 3>players get to do some of those things, or they

0:45:31.360 --> 0:45:34.319
<v Speaker 3>have special qualities that allow you to let them do

0:45:34.480 --> 0:45:36.680
<v Speaker 3>things that are a little out of the box, and

0:45:36.719 --> 0:45:38.520
<v Speaker 3>he's certainly one of those players. He was really fun

0:45:38.520 --> 0:45:39.680
<v Speaker 3>to watch in the Senegal game.

0:45:41.520 --> 0:45:43.839
<v Speaker 2>Christian Pelistic also scoring a goal.

0:45:44.000 --> 0:45:45.960
<v Speaker 4>He's been off the score sheet I think for like

0:45:46.000 --> 0:45:49.520
<v Speaker 4>eighteen street games or something like that. But he does

0:45:49.560 --> 0:45:51.600
<v Speaker 4>not seem like the type of guy who that gets

0:45:51.600 --> 0:45:52.360
<v Speaker 4>in his head.

0:45:52.560 --> 0:45:54.480
<v Speaker 2>I don't know if anything gets in that guy's head.

0:45:55.200 --> 0:45:58.520
<v Speaker 3>No. I you know, as much as we've talked a

0:45:58.560 --> 0:46:00.839
<v Speaker 3>little bit about, you know, what's the man national team culture?

0:46:00.880 --> 0:46:02.399
<v Speaker 3>What are they going to be like in this World Cup?

0:46:02.520 --> 0:46:04.799
<v Speaker 3>You know there's been a lot of just I guess

0:46:04.880 --> 0:46:07.160
<v Speaker 3>unknowns we'll call them, kind of swirling around. You don't

0:46:07.160 --> 0:46:08.759
<v Speaker 3>know exactly what you're going to get, or what the

0:46:08.800 --> 0:46:10.960
<v Speaker 3>plan is, or even what the final roster was going

0:46:11.040 --> 0:46:14.920
<v Speaker 3>to be. I thought that Senegal game was I'm optimistic

0:46:14.960 --> 0:46:17.680
<v Speaker 3>on it. I was high on it. I loved watching it.

0:46:17.719 --> 0:46:19.600
<v Speaker 3>I was like, this is this is a lot of fun.

0:46:19.680 --> 0:46:22.840
<v Speaker 3>I mean, they're really dynamic runs. The players are like

0:46:23.680 --> 0:46:25.600
<v Speaker 3>they're they're getting ready for a woke up and that

0:46:25.640 --> 0:46:27.120
<v Speaker 3>was obvious and you don't know, I see that with

0:46:27.120 --> 0:46:29.160
<v Speaker 3>the men's national team in terms of urgency in the

0:46:29.200 --> 0:46:31.799
<v Speaker 3>attacking third. And it was very dynamic, and I thought

0:46:31.840 --> 0:46:33.000
<v Speaker 3>it was really really fun.

0:46:33.239 --> 0:46:36.880
<v Speaker 4>I thought, interestingly, and I was surprised when I read this.

0:46:36.880 --> 0:46:39.760
<v Speaker 4>This was the first match that Sudinia does in Anthony

0:46:39.840 --> 0:46:43.800
<v Speaker 4>Robinson started together in the Bojetina era, which is surprising

0:46:43.840 --> 0:46:45.160
<v Speaker 4>to me because I would have felt like they would

0:46:45.160 --> 0:46:46.680
<v Speaker 4>be the obvious pairing.

0:46:47.360 --> 0:46:52.040
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but it's the first time I've started together under him, Nino.

0:46:52.560 --> 0:46:55.040
<v Speaker 3>That's interesting. I mean some of the some of the talk,

0:46:55.840 --> 0:46:58.080
<v Speaker 3>you know, has been like, who is the starting lineup

0:46:58.080 --> 0:46:59.360
<v Speaker 3>going to be? Is it gonna be these lineups that

0:46:59.400 --> 0:47:01.640
<v Speaker 3>we're seeing right now or is this still push Tino

0:47:01.680 --> 0:47:04.440
<v Speaker 3>trying to figure it out? And I, I really don't know.

0:47:04.560 --> 0:47:06.200
<v Speaker 3>I don't have a I don't have a hot take

0:47:06.200 --> 0:47:08.160
<v Speaker 3>on that. I'm not sure. I'd love to say that

0:47:08.200 --> 0:47:09.600
<v Speaker 3>he's got to figure it out and this is who

0:47:09.600 --> 0:47:11.160
<v Speaker 3>it's gonna be, this is who we're gonna see, and

0:47:11.200 --> 0:47:13.759
<v Speaker 3>we're just gonna get some reps in terms of you know,

0:47:13.840 --> 0:47:16.960
<v Speaker 3>who's who's out there now and them getting some chemistry together.

0:47:17.920 --> 0:47:20.760
<v Speaker 3>But I'm not sure. But I really enjoyed that game,

0:47:20.920 --> 0:47:23.920
<v Speaker 3>I you know, as much as we weren't sure about

0:47:24.040 --> 0:47:26.160
<v Speaker 3>culture and those sorts of things. And you know, you

0:47:26.200 --> 0:47:29.360
<v Speaker 3>can't watch one game and go we've got it. But

0:47:29.640 --> 0:47:33.040
<v Speaker 3>given the proximity to the World Cup, and given who

0:47:33.120 --> 0:47:35.160
<v Speaker 3>was out there and how they were playing and the

0:47:35.280 --> 0:47:39.080
<v Speaker 3>chemistry that seems to be evolving, it made me really

0:47:39.160 --> 0:47:41.640
<v Speaker 3>excited for these games coming up, starting well, specifically for

0:47:41.719 --> 0:47:42.560
<v Speaker 3>US starting the twelfth.

0:47:43.640 --> 0:47:48.200
<v Speaker 4>Next friendly will be June sixth against Germany.

0:47:49.960 --> 0:47:54.440
<v Speaker 2>That's quite a friendly. It's a great I'm gonna play against.

0:47:54.520 --> 0:47:57.720
<v Speaker 4>Put yourself toe to toe against the top competition right before.

0:47:57.880 --> 0:47:58.759
<v Speaker 2>That's what you have to do.

0:47:59.280 --> 0:48:03.879
<v Speaker 4>And this US men's notional team has had the disadvantage of.

0:48:03.920 --> 0:48:05.720
<v Speaker 2>In certain ways. This is a disadvantage.

0:48:05.760 --> 0:48:07.640
<v Speaker 4>They have not had to qualify and they haven't really

0:48:07.719 --> 0:48:10.400
<v Speaker 4>had to play a competitive match in a very long time,

0:48:10.880 --> 0:48:15.279
<v Speaker 4>so actually having a challenge ahead of you can only

0:48:15.360 --> 0:48:15.839
<v Speaker 4>be a good thing.

0:48:17.680 --> 0:48:20.960
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. I think that that also fed into the unknowns,

0:48:21.160 --> 0:48:22.880
<v Speaker 3>or has been feeding into the unknowns, is just like

0:48:22.880 --> 0:48:23.880
<v Speaker 3>who exactly.

0:48:23.520 --> 0:48:26.440
<v Speaker 4>Look, it almost feels like we It's so when I

0:48:26.480 --> 0:48:28.840
<v Speaker 4>was at USC the football team they practiced just like

0:48:28.880 --> 0:48:30.400
<v Speaker 4>in the middle of the quad and like a field,

0:48:30.600 --> 0:48:32.560
<v Speaker 4>but they would put these giant walls up so you

0:48:32.560 --> 0:48:34.000
<v Speaker 4>couldn't actually see the practice.

0:48:34.280 --> 0:48:36.880
<v Speaker 2>And that's what this entire US Men's team has felt

0:48:36.920 --> 0:48:39.120
<v Speaker 2>like this cycle, Like there's.

0:48:38.920 --> 0:48:42.359
<v Speaker 4>Just this giant firewall and we can't actually see what's

0:48:42.400 --> 0:48:42.799
<v Speaker 4>going on.

0:48:43.840 --> 0:48:45.440
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we're all just speculating.

0:48:45.560 --> 0:48:49.760
<v Speaker 4>And of course American men's soccer fans, not the women's

0:48:49.880 --> 0:48:52.800
<v Speaker 4>soccer fans, with American men's soccer fans are the most

0:48:53.120 --> 0:48:56.560
<v Speaker 4>negative nancies I've ever experienced in sports. And I lived

0:48:56.560 --> 0:49:01.160
<v Speaker 4>in Boston and I've visited Philadelphia, So that's impressive. You

0:49:01.200 --> 0:49:02.280
<v Speaker 4>guys are very impressive.

0:49:02.320 --> 0:49:03.759
<v Speaker 2>And your curmudgeny.

0:49:05.000 --> 0:49:09.239
<v Speaker 5>Glass half MD ways yeah right, And I mean I

0:49:09.239 --> 0:49:12.400
<v Speaker 5>think that part of that, you know, probably probably connects

0:49:12.480 --> 0:49:15.680
<v Speaker 5>to like a Lexi Lawless, you know, like people like

0:49:15.760 --> 0:49:17.920
<v Speaker 5>to pull that name, and he likes to give some

0:49:18.360 --> 0:49:19.879
<v Speaker 5>you know, some takes.

0:49:19.520 --> 0:49:22.399
<v Speaker 3>That aren't always positive, and that's that's you know, his job,

0:49:22.440 --> 0:49:26.319
<v Speaker 3>and that's okay. I've seen both out of him though,

0:49:26.400 --> 0:49:28.520
<v Speaker 3>you know, to his credit though, I think heading into

0:49:28.520 --> 0:49:31.360
<v Speaker 3>this World Cup, everybody wants the team to succeed and

0:49:31.360 --> 0:49:34.880
<v Speaker 3>everybody's really excited to see what what's brought. Yet not

0:49:34.960 --> 0:49:37.920
<v Speaker 3>having to qualify puts in an interesting dynamic. I mean,

0:49:37.920 --> 0:49:39.600
<v Speaker 3>what do you what do you do with that You

0:49:39.640 --> 0:49:42.120
<v Speaker 3>don't really get to see those you don't get to

0:49:42.120 --> 0:49:44.000
<v Speaker 3>see the team prepare in the same way as the

0:49:44.000 --> 0:49:48.040
<v Speaker 3>bottom line, So the unknowns are still I still think

0:49:48.080 --> 0:49:50.799
<v Speaker 3>they're I'm really excited for the friendly and what we

0:49:50.840 --> 0:49:52.680
<v Speaker 3>get to see before the World Cup. But I mean

0:49:53.000 --> 0:49:55.040
<v Speaker 3>when it's go time and it's June twelfth, I just

0:49:55.120 --> 0:49:56.600
<v Speaker 3>I can't wait. And I'll be at the game up

0:49:56.600 --> 0:49:59.200
<v Speaker 3>at Lumen on the nineteenth. It'll be my first live

0:49:59.360 --> 0:50:02.640
<v Speaker 3>Men's World Cup game, so I'm I can't. I mean

0:50:03.160 --> 0:50:04.080
<v Speaker 3>that nothing beats that.

0:50:05.200 --> 0:50:07.040
<v Speaker 4>I am planning on getting tickets for that one as well,

0:50:07.080 --> 0:50:10.600
<v Speaker 4>but I'm just good waiting until the dynamic pricing goes. Wait,

0:50:10.680 --> 0:50:12.799
<v Speaker 4>I'm waiting for the prices to crash.

0:50:12.880 --> 0:50:14.799
<v Speaker 3>Well, I'm sure I overpaid, but I'm going to just

0:50:14.840 --> 0:50:16.440
<v Speaker 3>go with it because I go with it.

0:50:16.480 --> 0:50:19.000
<v Speaker 2>I overpaid for two other games I overpaid. I'm going

0:50:19.040 --> 0:50:22.320
<v Speaker 2>to the USA Turkey game in Los Angeles and we

0:50:22.520 --> 0:50:25.920
<v Speaker 2>definitely overpaid that and then Egypt Belgium just because it

0:50:25.960 --> 0:50:28.960
<v Speaker 2>will be at Luminfield and I want to just experience

0:50:29.000 --> 0:50:29.759
<v Speaker 2>as much as I can.

0:50:30.040 --> 0:50:30.720
<v Speaker 3>That's awesome.

0:50:31.120 --> 0:50:31.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's gonna be.

0:50:32.000 --> 0:50:34.040
<v Speaker 3>I mean it's teams like that, right, I mean Belgium

0:50:34.280 --> 0:50:38.000
<v Speaker 3>has been gosh what it was it fourteen where they

0:50:38.000 --> 0:50:40.240
<v Speaker 3>were like so exciting. I mean they've put in.

0:50:40.120 --> 0:50:43.080
<v Speaker 4>Some like, Hey, without if Chris Wandilowski just did not

0:50:43.280 --> 0:50:49.160
<v Speaker 4>shank that last chance at all, you would have beaten

0:50:49.280 --> 0:50:51.280
<v Speaker 4>Belgium's Golden Generation.

0:50:52.040 --> 0:50:52.520
<v Speaker 3>Can you do?

0:50:52.680 --> 0:50:53.040
<v Speaker 2>Can you tell?

0:50:54.320 --> 0:50:54.840
<v Speaker 3>So close?

0:50:55.760 --> 0:50:58.879
<v Speaker 4>We all have PTSD from that. Chris Wanilowski, you were

0:50:58.960 --> 0:51:01.720
<v Speaker 4>actually one of my favorite prose. I've never met you.

0:51:01.719 --> 0:51:03.959
<v Speaker 4>You are seriously one of my favorite pros of all time.

0:51:04.160 --> 0:51:05.799
<v Speaker 4>You went to the same high school as my dad,

0:51:06.200 --> 0:51:08.160
<v Speaker 4>not the same age. I'm closer in age to you.

0:51:08.239 --> 0:51:08.720
<v Speaker 4>It's fine.

0:51:09.160 --> 0:51:11.920
<v Speaker 2>I love you. I love that you caught fire so

0:51:12.040 --> 0:51:14.239
<v Speaker 2>late in your career. I love that you are have

0:51:14.400 --> 0:51:17.240
<v Speaker 2>all of these crazy records in Major League Soccer. But gosh,

0:51:17.480 --> 0:51:21.160
<v Speaker 2>darn it, man, I know you know what same I.

0:51:21.160 --> 0:51:23.360
<v Speaker 3>Mean, he's a he's a Chico guy. Yeah, he was

0:51:23.400 --> 0:51:25.920
<v Speaker 3>a D two like all star, you know, kind of

0:51:25.960 --> 0:51:27.040
<v Speaker 3>late Blue Own High.

0:51:27.040 --> 0:51:28.360
<v Speaker 2>He's from Danville, California.

0:51:28.960 --> 0:51:31.560
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, no, I mean northern California. Here we go, go,

0:51:31.800 --> 0:51:35.640
<v Speaker 3>Arris go Berkeley. So yeah, I mean, I honestly, I

0:51:36.280 --> 0:51:39.120
<v Speaker 3>I was a big fan, too huge fan. And then

0:51:39.239 --> 0:51:41.440
<v Speaker 3>you know, he was obviously just scoring a boatload of

0:51:41.480 --> 0:51:43.919
<v Speaker 3>goals in MLS and he never quite got I thought

0:51:43.920 --> 0:51:46.719
<v Speaker 3>the national team run that I thought that he could

0:51:46.760 --> 0:51:49.799
<v Speaker 3>have maybe had earlier and when that moment happened, I

0:51:49.920 --> 0:51:52.919
<v Speaker 3>felt so terrible for him. I was like, that guy

0:51:53.080 --> 0:51:54.799
<v Speaker 3>has just put in so many goals and so much

0:51:54.840 --> 0:51:59.600
<v Speaker 3>work and you know, taking this very It's just it's

0:51:59.640 --> 0:52:01.160
<v Speaker 3>a path that not a lot of players take to

0:52:01.160 --> 0:52:04.480
<v Speaker 3>get to that level. And then yeah, that moment was

0:52:04.480 --> 0:52:07.360
<v Speaker 3>a total bummer. But Chris Wandelawski, what a gosh. The

0:52:07.400 --> 0:52:09.920
<v Speaker 3>guy was so fun to watch goalscorer.

0:52:10.520 --> 0:52:15.560
<v Speaker 4>I love you, Wondo, but a yeah, that was that team.

0:52:15.600 --> 0:52:19.120
<v Speaker 4>That Belgian team was like, they have got to be

0:52:19.120 --> 0:52:21.319
<v Speaker 4>so disappointed in the results that that national team has

0:52:21.320 --> 0:52:23.920
<v Speaker 4>had because that was that that team was loaded.

0:52:24.360 --> 0:52:26.520
<v Speaker 3>It's a crazy roster and I mean those come through

0:52:26.560 --> 0:52:28.520
<v Speaker 3>and you're just like what is going. I mean, like

0:52:28.680 --> 0:52:29.440
<v Speaker 3>think of you know.

0:52:29.440 --> 0:52:32.000
<v Speaker 2>Spain and they weren't even a top three in that.

0:52:32.080 --> 0:52:33.759
<v Speaker 3>World Spain when they went on their run. I mean

0:52:33.800 --> 0:52:36.920
<v Speaker 3>obviously that Spanish playing at Barcelona, it was basically Barcelona

0:52:36.960 --> 0:52:38.759
<v Speaker 3>without MESSI was kind of what you had there.

0:52:40.360 --> 0:52:43.560
<v Speaker 4>Literally, yeah, like they all played together, they all had

0:52:43.719 --> 0:52:46.640
<v Speaker 4>insane chemistry already and they were I mean that Spain

0:52:46.719 --> 0:52:49.880
<v Speaker 4>team in my lifetime might be the best team of

0:52:49.880 --> 0:52:50.239
<v Speaker 4>all time.

0:52:51.160 --> 0:52:53.959
<v Speaker 3>Oh well, that's that's when the that's when everybody started

0:52:54.000 --> 0:52:56.040
<v Speaker 3>building out of the back and started talking about Rondo's

0:52:56.120 --> 0:52:57.480
<v Speaker 3>I mean those two like buzzwords.

0:52:57.520 --> 0:52:59.279
<v Speaker 4>Oh, you know, because the best team in the world

0:52:59.400 --> 0:53:01.600
<v Speaker 4>is great at that, we should just copy the best team.

0:53:02.040 --> 0:53:03.719
<v Speaker 3>We can do a whole episode on building out of

0:53:03.760 --> 0:53:05.560
<v Speaker 3>the back and when to do it, and why everybody's

0:53:05.600 --> 0:53:08.040
<v Speaker 3>doing it and how they're misusing it. I could really

0:53:08.040 --> 0:53:10.040
<v Speaker 3>go on and on, but I won't right now. However,

0:53:11.320 --> 0:53:13.160
<v Speaker 3>that is really where it stemmed from. That's when the

0:53:13.160 --> 0:53:15.879
<v Speaker 3>trend started was, Look, the best players in the world

0:53:15.880 --> 0:53:18.279
<v Speaker 3>can do it, let's have everybody do it all the time,

0:53:18.840 --> 0:53:22.320
<v Speaker 3>which is, in my opinion, the absolute wrong application of

0:53:22.360 --> 0:53:27.080
<v Speaker 3>that decision. I think that it's everybody's doing it, and

0:53:27.120 --> 0:53:28.960
<v Speaker 3>I think it's there's a time and a place, certainly,

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<v Speaker 3>but I you know, I'm gonna I'm gonna push for it.

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<v Speaker 3>I know we've talked about Achille. I want the statistics

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<v Speaker 3>on the NWSL and I'm going to look for other

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<v Speaker 3>leagues too on how many goals result from building out

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<v Speaker 3>of the back in the defensive third and see what

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<v Speaker 3>those stats are, because I think the numbers are a

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<v Speaker 3>lot more shocking than people would think they are.

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<v Speaker 2>We should call it Jen Cooper because she will know

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<v Speaker 2>that answer.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's get on, Let's get her on.

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<v Speaker 2>Because she knows everything, Jen, we can extend it.

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<v Speaker 3>We can extend it to the back half of the

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<v Speaker 3>field because if.

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<v Speaker 4>Way just shout out to her every like I don't

0:53:59.640 --> 0:54:02.000
<v Speaker 4>want to say every single factoid and every single piece

0:54:02.000 --> 0:54:04.799
<v Speaker 4>of research that you watch in every NWSL broadcast comes

0:54:04.800 --> 0:54:09.799
<v Speaker 4>from her, but at least eighty percent does because her in.

0:54:10.760 --> 0:54:12.880
<v Speaker 3>Her work is so in depth. I mean, whenever I

0:54:13.000 --> 0:54:15.640
<v Speaker 3>start to dig into her work, I'm like, oh, like

0:54:15.719 --> 0:54:19.440
<v Speaker 3>this is It's so organized, it's so in depth, it's

0:54:20.320 --> 0:54:21.920
<v Speaker 3>it's all the information you would ever need to really

0:54:21.960 --> 0:54:23.359
<v Speaker 3>talk about just about everything.

0:54:23.200 --> 0:54:26.600
<v Speaker 4>And it's formatted so well for broadcast, yes, and for producers,

0:54:26.600 --> 0:54:29.839
<v Speaker 4>like it's exactly the right information that you need. Like, Jen,

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<v Speaker 4>you are amazing. We are so we don't we don't

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<v Speaker 4>deserve you, but thank you, Thank God.

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<v Speaker 3>She she does the job that she does. She's one

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<v Speaker 3>of those people that is doing something that she's amazing at.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, yes she is. Let's see blah blah blah. What

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<v Speaker 2>else do we want to talk about? God, there's still

0:54:46.800 --> 0:54:49.000
<v Speaker 2>I feel like there's still so much about Messy airplane.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, yeah, it was just weird.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like this, Okay, Messi is gonna be in

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<v Speaker 2>the US, He's been in the US. Yay, Argentina.

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<v Speaker 4>Who do you think is gonna win this World Cup?

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<v Speaker 4>And I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>That's how I felt was the last one. And then yeah,

0:55:05.719 --> 0:55:08.279
<v Speaker 3>at some point it just felt, you know, like all

0:55:08.320 --> 0:55:11.839
<v Speaker 3>the everything was going to align, and obviously Messy got

0:55:11.840 --> 0:55:14.480
<v Speaker 3>his World Cup. I wouldn't be sad if he got

0:55:14.480 --> 0:55:15.839
<v Speaker 3>to I certainly would.

0:55:15.840 --> 0:55:18.040
<v Speaker 2>I wouldn't either. I don't think many people would be sad.

0:55:18.480 --> 0:55:21.680
<v Speaker 4>No one would be sad, like non polarizing superstars, like

0:55:22.000 --> 0:55:24.520
<v Speaker 4>no one hates Lionnel Messy.

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<v Speaker 3>No. And I mean he he just seems like such

0:55:29.000 --> 0:55:35.680
<v Speaker 3>a normal, grounded, family oriented loves the game. Like obviously

0:55:35.719 --> 0:55:38.279
<v Speaker 3>he's like teaching it to his children, who look like,

0:55:38.480 --> 0:55:40.520
<v Speaker 3>you know, times that they can do a lot of

0:55:40.560 --> 0:55:43.239
<v Speaker 3>the things in similar ways that he he has at

0:55:43.239 --> 0:55:46.560
<v Speaker 3>the top levels. No, I love it. I mean I

0:55:46.600 --> 0:55:48.720
<v Speaker 3>was at a tournament once. It was a youth tournament

0:55:48.760 --> 0:55:52.239
<v Speaker 3>and his family happened to be there, and I mean

0:55:52.280 --> 0:55:55.000
<v Speaker 3>the crowds around it was just it's just you know,

0:55:55.120 --> 0:55:59.359
<v Speaker 3>such a glimpse into one interesting odd world, you know,

0:55:59.600 --> 0:56:02.520
<v Speaker 3>those peopeople must live in in terms of specifically their children.

0:56:02.920 --> 0:56:05.480
<v Speaker 3>I mean it was just there's not really many stands there.

0:56:05.520 --> 0:56:07.600
<v Speaker 3>They were pretty regular fields, and they were small fields

0:56:07.600 --> 0:56:10.520
<v Speaker 3>because the children are that old. And these children had

0:56:10.560 --> 0:56:13.120
<v Speaker 3>I mean, you know, like ten people back just deep

0:56:13.480 --> 0:56:16.440
<v Speaker 3>standing around a field watching them play this game. And

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<v Speaker 3>I was just like, holy cow, like this probably happens

0:56:19.080 --> 0:56:20.120
<v Speaker 3>every other weekend for him.

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<v Speaker 2>Crazy. Yeah, you were in the superstar that we all

0:56:24.200 --> 0:56:25.120
<v Speaker 2>aspire to become.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, truly, all right, google that. What else is on here?

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<v Speaker 4>We don't usually get that much time? This is so cool,

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<v Speaker 4>you know before we leave. Actually I put this on

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<v Speaker 4>here and it was it just says love for Tim

0:56:38.160 --> 0:56:40.520
<v Speaker 4>Reim because Tim Reem is catching so many strays on

0:56:40.560 --> 0:56:42.760
<v Speaker 4>Reddit and I don't want to hear a word about

0:56:42.760 --> 0:56:44.600
<v Speaker 4>how old he is. I don't want to hear it.

0:56:45.080 --> 0:56:47.600
<v Speaker 4>I want to hear that our captain is on Charlotte EVS.

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<v Speaker 4>That's awesome, Okay, he's awesome. He like what back line

0:56:53.080 --> 0:56:53.839
<v Speaker 4>do we have without him?

0:56:53.880 --> 0:56:57.640
<v Speaker 2>Guys? He's the anchor.

0:56:57.680 --> 0:57:03.560
<v Speaker 3>I mean, there's a really happens without him. We could

0:57:03.920 --> 0:57:05.960
<v Speaker 3>listen we could want a different one, we could want

0:57:06.000 --> 0:57:08.279
<v Speaker 3>a younger one, we could want something else, like all

0:57:08.320 --> 0:57:10.880
<v Speaker 3>those things are fine right now. We have who we have,

0:57:11.000 --> 0:57:13.440
<v Speaker 3>and frankly, I think we should both celebrate it and

0:57:13.480 --> 0:57:15.640
<v Speaker 3>be excited about it. I think he brings a ton

0:57:15.680 --> 0:57:17.600
<v Speaker 3>of experience and he's going to do a great job.

0:57:18.520 --> 0:57:20.280
<v Speaker 3>You know, sometimes can he get caught for speed and

0:57:20.280 --> 0:57:21.880
<v Speaker 3>we need to be able to game plan for that,

0:57:21.960 --> 0:57:24.520
<v Speaker 3>you know, yeah, sure, I mean, your legs are thirty eight,

0:57:24.560 --> 0:57:27.240
<v Speaker 3>are not the same as when you were younger. But

0:57:27.320 --> 0:57:30.160
<v Speaker 3>I think that we can and especially as we look

0:57:30.200 --> 0:57:32.440
<v Speaker 3>into pool play, I think that this is this is

0:57:32.440 --> 0:57:34.760
<v Speaker 3>a good situation for the US and I'm optimistic that

0:57:34.800 --> 0:57:36.320
<v Speaker 3>they can make a run if they bring the same

0:57:36.480 --> 0:57:38.240
<v Speaker 3>energy that they're bringing to these early games and they

0:57:38.240 --> 0:57:41.840
<v Speaker 3>don't get tight or nervous, you know, when the stage

0:57:41.880 --> 0:57:44.840
<v Speaker 3>gets so big. But I think it's going to be

0:57:45.160 --> 0:57:47.600
<v Speaker 3>very interesting to watch this team, and again, I'm very

0:57:47.640 --> 0:57:49.360
<v Speaker 3>optimistic from what we saw against Senegal.

0:57:49.880 --> 0:57:51.760
<v Speaker 4>We love you, Tim Reim, and I'm pretty sure Tim

0:57:51.800 --> 0:57:54.040
<v Speaker 4>Reim used to host a podcast with our buddy Steve

0:57:54.040 --> 0:57:57.840
<v Speaker 4>Schlanger as well, So.

0:57:56.560 --> 0:57:58.080
<v Speaker 3>Oh gosh, talk to Steve.

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<v Speaker 2>I love to talk to Steve about his buddy to

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<v Speaker 2>next week.

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<v Speaker 4>Actually, this is a great idea for next week and

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<v Speaker 4>great segue. We will be back as a podcast all

0:58:06.760 --> 0:58:08.480
<v Speaker 4>throughout the World Cup. You can check us out on

0:58:08.480 --> 0:58:10.640
<v Speaker 4>the Seattle Soccer Audio Network page.

0:58:10.800 --> 0:58:12.400
<v Speaker 2>Hoole New Kili is just gonna come out.

0:58:13.360 --> 0:58:16.600
<v Speaker 4>We'll be back next week regat talking more World Cup,

0:58:16.880 --> 0:58:19.320
<v Speaker 4>talking NWSL news because there will still be tons of

0:58:19.320 --> 0:58:21.680
<v Speaker 4>news and transactions and tons of stuff to talk about.

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<v Speaker 2>And yeah, stay with us.