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Speaker 2: Question for you, Johnny, right off the top. Are you ready?

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Speaker 3: Let's go?

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Speaker 2: You got a pen.

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Speaker 4: You might have to write this one down, but maybe not,

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Speaker 4: maybe not, maybe not. Which quarterback has been more durable

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Speaker 4: during the twenty twenty five football season JJ McCarthy, who's

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Speaker 4: I think twenty two or Aaron Rodgers who's closer to

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Speaker 3: Yeah, a rod has kind of withstood the test of

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Speaker 3: durable one. Maybe those old bones just like have calcified

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's uh, it is interesting we we make these

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Speaker 4: kid out again with his fourth injury in two seasons,

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Speaker 4: why Mathuselah keeps, you know, somehow, even though he can't

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Speaker 2: I said this earlier.

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Speaker 4: I'm curious to know your view or get your view

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Speaker 4: I now believe whether he's an unlucky player or whether

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Speaker 4: he's just one of those players who has whatever reason

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Speaker 4: malpractice if they come to training camp in twenty twenty

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Speaker 4: If you don't want him to compete for the job,

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Speaker 4: to be there just in case JJ McCarthy is not

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Speaker 4: going to be available, what do you say to that?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that's one hundred percent what has to happen, Dan,

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Speaker 3: when you look at how this season has played out,

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Speaker 3: certainly encouraging the last couple of weeks that he that

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Speaker 3: the same thing with Jayden Daniels in Washington. I think

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Speaker 3: Should JJ McCarthy get hurt again, which is what we've

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's just and and none of that has to

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Speaker 3: He all progress that his ability not any of that

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Speaker 4: What is it is he I think he's played so

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Speaker 2: And maybe that'll happen here as well.

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Speaker 4: But it's the difference is it's everything that we know

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that will be the question. And I don't have

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Speaker 2: There's no question.

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Speaker 4: And they obviously realize their mistake pretty quickly, right or

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Speaker 4: So here's the problem now, I really do think they

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Speaker 2: Gonna be going back there. We blew the opportunity.

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Speaker 3: Imagine that wouldn't that have been something just to see

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Speaker 2: Of course. Interesting A text.

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Speaker 4: From this is from Burrow Oaks chef Guy Well. You

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Speaker 3: Think like definitely on the knee injury last year, he

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Speaker 3: He just walked right out.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: One last night, I'm gonna read you this. This is

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Speaker 2: Here it is? This is from emailer Chris.

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Speaker 4: Are you guys in the bandwagon with those celebrating Finchy

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Speaker 4: for acting like an idiot against OKC? To me, he

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Speaker 4: may want to take a break from berating the refs

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Speaker 4: one of these days and try coaching his team instead.

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Speaker 4: There's a lot to chew on there as it will say, guardsy,

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Speaker 4: Johnny go, you have at it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Well, I'll say this I have said in the

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Speaker 3: past and I continue to believe that there are times

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Speaker 3: absolutely where Finch is too consumed with the refereem. He

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Speaker 3: is one of the more vocal guys during the game.

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Speaker 3: I don't think the referees like it at all. I

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Speaker 3: think sometimes it does work against them, no question about it.

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Speaker 3: But in that case, I think that was a lifetime

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Speaker 3: achievement award that was building up for not only the

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Speaker 3: referees who are kind of always in his crop, but

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Speaker 3: also Oklahoma City and the way that he perceives and

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Speaker 3: many in the league perceived that they are officiated differently.

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Speaker 3: And one thing you cannot argue about that game, in particular,

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Speaker 3: after he got thrown out, the game got called differently

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Speaker 3: and there was forty seven free throws and there was

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Speaker 3: a ton of fouls called. And I think that if

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Speaker 3: you were you know, if the script was slipped and

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Speaker 3: the thundershot forty seven free throws, the Wolves would be

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Speaker 3: absolutely out of their skin. But it was I do

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Speaker 3: think effective in that game in changing the way that

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Speaker 3: it was called. I had him on the podcast on

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Speaker 3: Saturday at the Brewery and there are four hundred people

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Speaker 3: in there, and he has never had a higher approval rating.

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Speaker 3: But I do think overall, yes, Dan, that I think

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Speaker 3: that sometimes he is too consumed with the officiating, and

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Speaker 3: it would behoove him and the team and Anthony Edwards

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Speaker 3: and Nazried and a bunch of these guys who do

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Speaker 3: complain a lot to try and compartmentalize a little bit

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Speaker 3: more sometimes.

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Speaker 4: Appreciate to help merry Christmas, Happy New Year and all

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Speaker 4: those good things.

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Speaker 2: And we'll talk soon. Thanks Johnny.

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Speaker 3: I always appreciate being on the show, Dan, thanks so much,

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Speaker 3: and happy holidays all the listeners out there, and we'll

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Speaker 3: see you on the other side of the year.

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Speaker 2: Ain't that far off, Thank you, sir.

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Speaker 4: We'll talk to that John Athletic Johnny Krazinski brought you

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Speaker 4: by RBC Wealth Management quick Break and then we'll get

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Speaker 4: to maybe our first Vikings talking point and then prepare

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Speaker 4: for Nacho Levers. All right, let's get to a Vikings

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Speaker 4: talking point I think I labeled I just would headline

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Speaker 4: this one giant horseshoe.

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Speaker 6: The Vikings have the ball with McCarthy out of the

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Speaker 6: shotgun takes a snap four man rush throws to the

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Speaker 6: right and Jalen Naylor pettit go off one of his

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Speaker 6: hands and it's picked off by a New York Giant

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Speaker 6: to the forty, to the fifty.

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Speaker 2: And all the way to the end zone.

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Speaker 6: Goes Javon Holland. Unofficially a touchdown for the New York Giants,

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Speaker 6: but we have a flag on the play. Javon Holland

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Speaker 6: with his second interception, touchdown.

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Speaker 2: Defense number fifty one under the zone. Over is wand

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Speaker 2: bring it back Javon Holland. Nope. Wow, what a swing,

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Speaker 2: What a swing of emotion right here for the Giants.

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Speaker 5: They were all they all, the entire defense ran one

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Speaker 5: hundred yards down of the field to celebrate with them.

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Speaker 2: But a ball that should have been caught long hmm.

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Speaker 4: Interesting, Well, uh, it was all or not, giants being

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Speaker 4: the Giants. I didn't like the trajectory on that throw.

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Speaker 4: I know the cliche, See.

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Speaker 2: Who gets to hold on it, See who's going to

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Speaker 2: make the play.

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Speaker 4: I did not think that was a particularly outstanding throw.

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Speaker 4: But just want to remind Vikings fans who constantly tell

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Speaker 4: us we never get the brakes. The other teams always

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Speaker 4: have the horseshoe. We tend to remember what we want

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Speaker 4: to remember. That was a rather large horseshoe moment, because

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Speaker 4: it was fairly clear that no matter how many quarters

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Speaker 4: that game went, six eight, twelve, the Giants were not

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Speaker 4: going to score a touchdown on minus. Some of that

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Speaker 4: being the Vikings defense playing well, some of that is

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Speaker 4: the Giants' offense not seeming all that interested in participating

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Speaker 4: in most of the festivities. We have several more one, two, three, four,

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Speaker 4: five more Vikings talking points. To get to one of

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Speaker 4: them actually might be part of the conversation with Nacho

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Speaker 4: liber We've got a lot of good texts that I

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Speaker 4: have been holding onto and saving six four six eighty

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Speaker 4: six is the Bradshaw and Bryant k FA and text line.

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Speaker 4: So keep them coming and I will try to hold

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Speaker 4: on to some of the best ones. We are guest

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Speaker 4: free between five and six. Well, also, I think before

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Speaker 4: this program wraps up with Guards the Out, Sam Byrd's

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Speaker 4: kind of enough to join us today. And not only

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Speaker 4: is he does he have a top five at five.

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Speaker 4: Actually the problem is we can't do it. If we

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Speaker 4: do a top five at five today we go with

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Speaker 4: liber to like twelve after so we but if you've

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Speaker 4: prepared it, we could still do the five twenty Sports Fix,

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Speaker 4: that's what we used to call it, So hold on

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Speaker 4: to it. Sure, it just might be a little bit delayed.

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Speaker 4: And we'll talk about your little field trip this weekend

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Speaker 4: to Chicago, Illinois. Very good timing there as well, so

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Speaker 4: a very busy program the rest of the way. Let's

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Speaker 4: try to get a little bit back on schedule. Yes,

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Speaker 4: I am aware of the incident in the Steelers Lions

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Speaker 4: game of a player, a certain wide receiver, taking a

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Speaker 4: I wouldn't call it a punch, kind of a swing

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Speaker 4: and a fan that allegedly he had some kind of

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Speaker 4: history with.

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Speaker 2: I hope to get more on that story a little

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Speaker 2: bit later.

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Speaker 4: But let's prepare for Nacho liber Ben Lieber, who got

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Speaker 4: a little national TV time yesterday. I remember what Viking

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Speaker 4: player it was that he ended up grabbing on the

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Speaker 4: sidelines or meeting up with on the sidelines, and so

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Speaker 4: very briefly you got a shot at the handsome Ben

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Speaker 4: Lieber face. We'll talk about that and a lot of

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Speaker 4: other things that probably aren't all that important, because the

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Speaker 4: game itself was not all that important.

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Speaker 2: Liber is next.

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Speaker 4: If you have questions or Nacho liber hit the Bradshaw

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Speaker 4: on Brian Kafan text line at six four six eighty six.

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Speaker 4: As many of you already have, we'll have the top

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Speaker 4: five of five will be delayed, but we'll get to

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Speaker 4: it via the five twenty Sports Fix and more Vikings

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Speaker 4: talking points to get to in a couple of other

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Speaker 4: ancillary items as well. Monday Night Football tonight, interesting little matchup.

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Speaker 4: The Methusla quarterback for the Colts taking on the San

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Speaker 4: Francisco forty nine ers in a game that the Colts

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Speaker 4: pretty desperately need after a great start, they've kind of

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Speaker 4: come very much back to the pack. Liber is as usual,

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Speaker 2: I don't know how much of a detective you.

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Speaker 4: Like to be in your role it's on the sidelines

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Speaker 4: for Vikings games. How much deductive reasoning you like to use?

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Speaker 4: But do you have a handle on when JJ McCarthy

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Speaker 4: suffered whatever hand related injury he seemed to suffer that

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Speaker 4: had him sidelined for the second half.

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Speaker 5: You know, I would say a fair amount of what

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Speaker 5: I do is very Agatha Christie life. I'm very much

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Speaker 5: trying to decode things and figure things out on the sideline.

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Speaker 5: Actually no, I mean I would have. I would imagine

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Speaker 5: it happened probably on the series beforehand, and I didn't

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Speaker 5: notice anything as far as him on the sideline getting

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Speaker 5: extra treatment or looked at by the trainers very easily

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Speaker 5: just could have been an oversight by myself as I

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Speaker 5: was kind of walking by the bench. But my guess

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Speaker 5: it was, you know, a passplay that happened before that,

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Speaker 5: because as we all saw from the replay of the

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Speaker 5: sack fumble, like he he lost that ball before he

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Speaker 5: was even contacted. So I think the the lack of

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Speaker 5: grip strength and obviously his hand being compromised is what

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Speaker 5: led to that stumble.

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Speaker 4: I don't think we have any new information yet on

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Speaker 4: availability for the last couple of games.

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Speaker 2: We've all, I believe, agreed.

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Speaker 4: If we've agreed on anything JJ McCarthy related, it is

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Speaker 4: that the number one goal once the team was mathematically

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Speaker 4: eliminated was to continue to play him and to give

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Speaker 4: him as many reps as possible to try to gain

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Speaker 4: some confidence with him, figure out what he is comfortable with,

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Speaker 4: and then you know, just trying to build upon that.

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Speaker 4: So for the sake of this discussion, let's say, whatever

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Speaker 4: the injury is, and I don't know if you have

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Speaker 4: a Sherlock holmesyan or Agatha Christie like prediction to make

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Speaker 4: based on your detective work on whether he plays either

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Speaker 4: the last two weeks or weekends. But I guess one

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Speaker 4: of them is Christmas and the other one's weekend. But

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Speaker 4: if he is unable to play the rest of this season,

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Speaker 4: or they just decide, you know, caution is the better approach,

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Speaker 4: what do we do?

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Speaker 2: I mean, you and I have talked about this before.

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Speaker 2: I'm not one of those media jacks gulls who is

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Speaker 2: going to suggest that JJ McCarthy is soft something soft

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Speaker 2: about him.

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Speaker 4: But he hasn't played very much, right, He's missed a

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Speaker 4: bunch of games for whatever the reason. This is now

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Speaker 4: a fourth injury. So how does that factor into you

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Speaker 4: think the way this organization should go forward in this offseason.

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Speaker 4: Can they count on, well, it's just bad luck, it's

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Speaker 4: going to even out. Everything's fine, or do you start

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Speaker 4: having to say, well, this is something that might force

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Speaker 4: us to give ourselves some kind of an option in

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Speaker 4: case this trend continues.

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Speaker 5: I definitely think it has to be part of the equation,

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Speaker 5: and I think that they're in a really tricky spot

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Speaker 5: and something I don't really envy because we've been around

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Speaker 5: and we've seen enough players where it seems like they're

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Speaker 5: injury prone and they go through a spot of injuries

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Speaker 5: and then then all of a sudden, they get a

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Speaker 5: clean bill of health for years and they seem to

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Speaker 5: be fine and always available. So I've kind of seen

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Speaker 5: it both ways where that's the case and then other

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Speaker 5: guys just can't shake the injuries. I mean, even look

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Speaker 5: at Carson Wentz. I mean, Carson Wentz has been battling

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Speaker 5: injuries his whole life, and it's like, well, they're all understandable.

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Speaker 5: You know, they all happen under physical conditions, and this

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Speaker 5: is a guy that's being a competitor, and you know,

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Speaker 5: sometimes s happens. But I think in this case, as

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Speaker 5: you're looking at the future of this team, if you

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Speaker 5: believe this team is talented enough to make a playoff

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Speaker 5: push next year, then you might have to start looking

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Speaker 5: at a situation where you have a stopgapp quarterback and

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Speaker 5: you bring it in to somebody else that you can

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Speaker 5: hopefully turn into a Sam Darnold. So I definitely think

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Speaker 5: it has to be part of the equation. I don't

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Speaker 5: know what they're going to do, but I would not

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Speaker 5: I would not hate them if that's the decision they

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Speaker 5: have to make.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm with you on it, I almost think. And again,

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Speaker 4: as we talked about earlier in the show, it's easier

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Speaker 4: to throw that out the challenges, well who right, because

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Speaker 4: that's where you because I think in my case, I

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Speaker 4: don't want it to be just any backup. Right you say, well,

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Speaker 4: that's the guy's a backup, and we just have to

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Speaker 4: have somebody in that role. I you know, in my

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Speaker 4: perfect world, it is somebody who you feel can give

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Speaker 4: you a decent chance to win a series of games. Right,

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Speaker 4: And so how many of those quarterbacks are attainable? How

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Speaker 4: many of those quarterbacks would be willing to come here?

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Speaker 4: That's the open question because there's a lot of suspects

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Speaker 4: a Nacho, but that there's not a lot of guys

656
00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:38,600
Speaker 4: necessarily who I think could could fill the bill we're

657
00:34:38,640 --> 00:34:39,120
Speaker 4: asking for.

658
00:34:40,719 --> 00:34:43,040
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think the dialogue has to be to whoever

659
00:34:43,120 --> 00:34:46,319
Speaker 5: they bring in. You know, I'm not talking about the

660
00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:49,960
Speaker 5: compensation package, right, just whoever they bring in the dialogue,

661
00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:53,799
Speaker 5: and the conversation has to be very much about you

662
00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:57,560
Speaker 5: can come in here and compete. And this is not

663
00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:01,000
Speaker 5: a job that JJ McCart Dorothy is just going to

664
00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:03,960
Speaker 5: be penciled in and like inked in and saying like, okay,

665
00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:06,520
Speaker 5: he's the starter, You're just here's a backup. I think

666
00:35:06,560 --> 00:35:10,480
Speaker 5: for the health of everybody, the organization, for McCarthy's development,

667
00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:14,759
Speaker 5: that it has to be an open competition and you know,

668
00:35:14,840 --> 00:35:17,919
Speaker 5: may the best man win. And I say an open

669
00:35:17,960 --> 00:35:22,640
Speaker 5: competition to where KOs is running his playbook, yes he is.

670
00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:25,360
Speaker 5: He is comfortable calling the plays how he wants to

671
00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:28,279
Speaker 5: call them. You know, yes, he is adapting to the

672
00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:31,400
Speaker 5: quarterback situation as it is right now. But if you

673
00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:34,040
Speaker 5: want the best out of your play caller, then I

674
00:35:34,080 --> 00:35:36,000
Speaker 5: think that you have to find a quarterback that it

675
00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:39,080
Speaker 5: can at least get you eighty to ninety percent away

676
00:35:39,160 --> 00:35:42,000
Speaker 5: versus you know, the pairing down that sounds like it's

677
00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:44,759
Speaker 5: happening right now. So I think all those things are

678
00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:48,160
Speaker 5: in play. You bring somebody in to compete, and on

679
00:35:48,239 --> 00:35:49,840
Speaker 5: top of that, it has to go back to the

680
00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:52,320
Speaker 5: old system and it has to be the big plays

681
00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:54,160
Speaker 5: down the field, and it has to be what Justin

682
00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:56,280
Speaker 5: Jefferson excels at as well.

683
00:35:56,480 --> 00:35:57,200
Speaker 2: Well, it's interesting.

684
00:35:57,200 --> 00:35:59,200
Speaker 4: I'm glad you brought up Jefferson because he had a

685
00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:02,719
Speaker 4: much better game. Although a lot of the throws were

686
00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:07,319
Speaker 4: I thought, you know, just him making something out of

687
00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:09,480
Speaker 4: not much right, they were a couple more I guess

688
00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:12,319
Speaker 4: you would say, receiver screens where I'm thinking third and

689
00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:13,799
Speaker 4: twelve third and he ain't going to get there, and

690
00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:15,360
Speaker 4: he got there a couple of times.

691
00:36:16,360 --> 00:36:19,320
Speaker 2: I like that. I mean, because we've all talked.

692
00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:20,919
Speaker 4: About the fact that you have to find a way

693
00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:23,360
Speaker 4: to get him more involved. But it's a very different

694
00:36:23,440 --> 00:36:27,320
Speaker 4: kind of involvement necessarily than we're used to regarding JJ.

695
00:36:27,440 --> 00:36:28,719
Speaker 2: Correct Justin Jefferson.

696
00:36:29,719 --> 00:36:32,200
Speaker 5: Yeah, And the thing is like, does it work in

697
00:36:32,239 --> 00:36:35,120
Speaker 5: the short term. Sure, I mean they've changed up their offense.

698
00:36:35,239 --> 00:36:37,920
Speaker 5: They put him in some other positions where he became

699
00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:40,400
Speaker 5: the primary progression guy, where he's the first or second

700
00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:42,440
Speaker 5: read and oftentimes the number one read. I mean, it

701
00:36:42,520 --> 00:36:44,920
Speaker 5: was absolutely the intentional target some of these screen passes

702
00:36:44,960 --> 00:36:48,719
Speaker 5: and some of these shallow crosses, but that's not his game.

703
00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:52,040
Speaker 5: I mean, he's not built like Cooper Cupp who you know,

704
00:36:52,120 --> 00:36:54,640
Speaker 5: fit into this offense very well, and he was so

705
00:36:54,719 --> 00:36:56,880
Speaker 5: much of a run after catch. He's not Pooka Nakua.

706
00:36:56,920 --> 00:36:59,480
Speaker 5: He's not built like that. Yes, were we surprised at

707
00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:02,360
Speaker 5: some of the yards zfter catch. Absolutely, because he's an athlete.

708
00:37:02,600 --> 00:37:05,520
Speaker 5: He's stronger than most people think. But if you want

709
00:37:05,520 --> 00:37:08,719
Speaker 5: the best out of Justin Jefferson, he's the deep guy, right,

710
00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:10,960
Speaker 5: He's the guy that's running. You know, you've got to

711
00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:13,160
Speaker 5: clear out some zones for him. And he's going to

712
00:37:13,239 --> 00:37:15,799
Speaker 5: come in on a deep dig eighteen yards down the field.

713
00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:18,160
Speaker 5: He's on a deep over that's twenty five yards down

714
00:37:18,200 --> 00:37:21,880
Speaker 5: the field. That's where he excels. And I think that

715
00:37:21,880 --> 00:37:24,120
Speaker 5: if you're trying to fit him into this this role

716
00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:28,279
Speaker 5: where he is Nikoua or Cooper Cup, I think you're

717
00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:31,160
Speaker 5: setting yourself up for injury. I mean, he's just not

718
00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:32,279
Speaker 5: built the same way.

719
00:37:34,160 --> 00:37:36,840
Speaker 4: This is an interesting Well let's before I get to

720
00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:39,080
Speaker 4: a couple of good texts that have come in. Are

721
00:37:39,120 --> 00:37:41,840
Speaker 4: we at a point where you think, speaking of injury

722
00:37:42,640 --> 00:37:45,520
Speaker 4: and now in this case injury history, that we're at

723
00:37:45,520 --> 00:37:47,000
Speaker 4: a point where we're going to have to start our

724
00:37:47,040 --> 00:37:49,600
Speaker 4: search all over again for a big time center.

725
00:37:51,840 --> 00:37:52,080
Speaker 3: Yeah.

726
00:37:52,080 --> 00:37:55,719
Speaker 5: I think so. You know, it's unfortunate. Yeah, nobody wants

727
00:37:55,800 --> 00:37:58,279
Speaker 5: to go out like that, especially in the season, and

728
00:37:58,320 --> 00:38:01,440
Speaker 5: it sounds like, you know, probably his career is in

729
00:38:01,560 --> 00:38:04,520
Speaker 5: jeopardy because of these concussions. And I would say, you know,

730
00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:06,919
Speaker 5: if i'm if I'm one of his family members, I'd

731
00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:09,320
Speaker 5: absolutely be pushing for that and say, listen, you've had

732
00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:14,080
Speaker 5: an awesome career and you you're very well respected, you know,

733
00:38:14,160 --> 00:38:16,879
Speaker 5: get out while your health is still hopefully pretty good.

734
00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:20,120
Speaker 5: So yeah, I do think that we are we are

735
00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:22,680
Speaker 5: going to be in the markets for a center, and

736
00:38:22,760 --> 00:38:25,360
Speaker 5: I would even probably suggest a veteran center, like we

737
00:38:25,560 --> 00:38:27,520
Speaker 5: bringing Ryan Kelly as a veteran. I don't know if

738
00:38:27,560 --> 00:38:31,520
Speaker 5: you want to have a second year left guard. You know,

739
00:38:31,560 --> 00:38:33,480
Speaker 5: you got your veteran right guard, but then all of

740
00:38:33,520 --> 00:38:36,320
Speaker 5: a sudden, now you're you're breaking in a rookie center.

741
00:38:36,440 --> 00:38:39,640
Speaker 5: I think that it'll probably be a free agent pickup

742
00:38:39,640 --> 00:38:40,320
Speaker 5: in the offseason.

743
00:38:40,520 --> 00:38:43,800
Speaker 4: The hopsplash, your hopspat splash. I should say, player of

744
00:38:43,840 --> 00:38:45,000
Speaker 4: the game is.

745
00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:51,600
Speaker 5: Hobsplash. Player of the game is Jonathan Allen. If you

746
00:38:51,640 --> 00:38:55,560
Speaker 5: can believe that, I understand that if you looked on paper,

747
00:38:56,320 --> 00:38:59,480
Speaker 5: the team was not great against the run, yesterday that

748
00:38:59,560 --> 00:39:03,160
Speaker 5: we had rushes on the ground, and yeah, we gave

749
00:39:03,239 --> 00:39:05,359
Speaker 5: up a bunch of yards. Now that was their whole

750
00:39:05,360 --> 00:39:08,640
Speaker 5: game plan. But I thought when I went back and

751
00:39:08,680 --> 00:39:11,560
Speaker 5: watched the film, especially early in the game, the dude

752
00:39:11,600 --> 00:39:12,160
Speaker 5: was physical.

753
00:39:12,160 --> 00:39:12,359
Speaker 1: Man.

754
00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:15,680
Speaker 5: He was doing some stuff up front that, you know,

755
00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:19,040
Speaker 5: I think a lot of people would appreciate, and he

756
00:39:19,120 --> 00:39:23,760
Speaker 5: was making us presence known, and I sort of really enjoyed.

757
00:39:24,160 --> 00:39:26,319
Speaker 5: I think the physicality of which he played with so

758
00:39:26,960 --> 00:39:29,000
Speaker 5: a lot a lot to like. I mean, how can

759
00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:31,759
Speaker 5: you not like five sacks basically seven sacks of the

760
00:39:31,760 --> 00:39:36,320
Speaker 5: two that they negated, but the front and the secondary

761
00:39:36,320 --> 00:39:39,280
Speaker 5: and everybody they played a part in all the disguised packages.

762
00:39:39,320 --> 00:39:42,040
Speaker 5: But I like the physicality of job Van Allen yesterday.

763
00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:47,919
Speaker 4: Do you, again, using your sleuthing skills, did you get

764
00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:54,040
Speaker 4: any sense last night exactly what the Giants had in mind?

765
00:39:54,160 --> 00:39:57,880
Speaker 2: Offensively? What was it? As a fifteen straight place?

766
00:39:57,920 --> 00:39:59,680
Speaker 4: I think they ran and then I think they tried

767
00:39:59,680 --> 00:40:01,719
Speaker 4: a couple throws or wanted to, But then I think

768
00:40:01,760 --> 00:40:04,680
Speaker 4: the qube got sacked. They may have been like twenty

769
00:40:04,680 --> 00:40:07,400
Speaker 4: two plays before they completed a pass. I'm not exactly sure.

770
00:40:08,080 --> 00:40:10,600
Speaker 4: Was this part of some sort of master plan. Was

771
00:40:10,640 --> 00:40:14,880
Speaker 4: this an example of responsible tanking? Was this how fearful

772
00:40:14,920 --> 00:40:17,959
Speaker 4: they were of what the young quarterback might face, because

773
00:40:18,160 --> 00:40:20,160
Speaker 4: it was it seemed very strange to me.

774
00:40:21,320 --> 00:40:26,239
Speaker 5: Yeah, it was a coddle the confidence type of game plan. Yes, yeah,

775
00:40:27,040 --> 00:40:30,080
Speaker 5: let's not put our young rookie out there and have

776
00:40:30,120 --> 00:40:33,840
Speaker 5: to decipher and break down b flows defense, you know,

777
00:40:33,920 --> 00:40:37,480
Speaker 5: twenty five thirty times during the game. So, I mean

778
00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:40,440
Speaker 5: it was a little bit of a give up game plan,

779
00:40:40,480 --> 00:40:43,000
Speaker 5: which I don't think anybody really enjoyed, even though I

780
00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:45,120
Speaker 5: mean they kept themselves in it. You know, they did

781
00:40:45,239 --> 00:40:48,920
Speaker 5: run the ball effectively. But the other thing you also

782
00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:52,560
Speaker 5: noticed was there wasn't a lot of intentional quarterback runs,

783
00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:55,400
Speaker 5: which had been a big part of their offense because

784
00:40:55,440 --> 00:40:58,640
Speaker 5: of the concussion issues with Jackson Dart. So it was

785
00:40:58,680 --> 00:41:00,960
Speaker 5: a lot of just having the running backs handle all

786
00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:04,399
Speaker 5: of the yardage. And then even in the passing game,

787
00:41:04,960 --> 00:41:08,160
Speaker 5: you know, there weren't those sort of read option type

788
00:41:08,160 --> 00:41:10,520
Speaker 5: of plays where he has the run pass option to

789
00:41:10,520 --> 00:41:13,920
Speaker 5: throw the football and because he can't stop himself, that's

790
00:41:13,960 --> 00:41:16,160
Speaker 5: the other he can't stop himself from being a competitor

791
00:41:16,200 --> 00:41:18,080
Speaker 5: and wanting to run. So I think They're trying to

792
00:41:18,120 --> 00:41:20,720
Speaker 5: protect Jackson Dart in a lot of different ways mentally

793
00:41:20,719 --> 00:41:24,799
Speaker 5: and physically, and unfortunately, even when they did drop back

794
00:41:24,840 --> 00:41:27,479
Speaker 5: those times, he still was hit, you know, like I said,

795
00:41:27,560 --> 00:41:30,919
Speaker 5: seven times, and two of those were directly in the head.

796
00:41:31,120 --> 00:41:33,960
Speaker 5: So even when they're trying to protect him, they couldn't

797
00:41:33,960 --> 00:41:34,719
Speaker 5: protect them enough.

798
00:41:34,880 --> 00:41:37,799
Speaker 2: What was the atmosphere like there? It didn't look very full.

799
00:41:37,920 --> 00:41:42,600
Speaker 4: Obviously the Giants were long done then and Giants fans

800
00:41:42,600 --> 00:41:43,839
Speaker 4: are kind of used a little bit of that.

801
00:41:43,920 --> 00:41:46,319
Speaker 2: But what did it feel like in the.

802
00:41:46,280 --> 00:41:51,160
Speaker 5: Building kind of mah, sort of like what you saw

803
00:41:51,239 --> 00:41:54,839
Speaker 5: on TV. I mean, it was I don't know, maybe

804
00:41:55,000 --> 00:41:59,960
Speaker 5: seventy percent full if I'm being generous and not very

805
00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:03,200
Speaker 5: very loud. And again seventy percent, and I would say,

806
00:42:04,080 --> 00:42:06,480
Speaker 5: you know, almost half of those being Vikings fans. Yeah,

807
00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:12,360
Speaker 5: so yeah, thankfully we do travel well, even to New Jersey.

808
00:42:12,880 --> 00:42:15,960
Speaker 5: But no, it was a pretty dead environment, easy to

809
00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:19,560
Speaker 5: operate in, and I mean, I think the biggest concern

810
00:42:19,760 --> 00:42:21,680
Speaker 5: was just how windy it was. I mean throughout the

811
00:42:21,719 --> 00:42:24,440
Speaker 5: course of the game. I was even kind of fooled

812
00:42:24,480 --> 00:42:27,240
Speaker 5: by the forecast because it was supposed to be sunny

813
00:42:27,239 --> 00:42:31,239
Speaker 5: and forty eight degrees forty nine degrees, and I was like, oh,

814
00:42:31,280 --> 00:42:33,560
Speaker 5: it's just kind of good football weather. But then it

815
00:42:33,600 --> 00:42:36,800
Speaker 5: was this kind of blustery and windier than I was expecting,

816
00:42:36,960 --> 00:42:40,799
Speaker 5: colder than I expected, and definitely, as you could tell

817
00:42:40,800 --> 00:42:42,799
Speaker 5: about watching the game, the receivers had a hard time

818
00:42:42,840 --> 00:42:43,880
Speaker 5: sort of catching the football.

819
00:42:44,040 --> 00:42:48,480
Speaker 4: How did you handle the plane misadventures the day, the

820
00:42:48,560 --> 00:42:50,160
Speaker 4: day before and night before.

821
00:42:52,360 --> 00:42:56,200
Speaker 5: Pretty well? You know. I think we had the soothing

822
00:42:56,320 --> 00:43:01,160
Speaker 5: voice of our captain when she came off and was like, Hey,

823
00:43:01,200 --> 00:43:03,520
Speaker 5: this is what's going on. She was very transparent about

824
00:43:03,520 --> 00:43:05,040
Speaker 5: what was going on. She's like, I want you everybody

825
00:43:05,120 --> 00:43:09,520
Speaker 5: know that we're not in danger. The landing gear still works,

826
00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:12,440
Speaker 5: you know, and and basically it's better that the hatch

827
00:43:13,800 --> 00:43:16,800
Speaker 5: was still open versus they couldn't. They couldn't get it open,

828
00:43:17,440 --> 00:43:20,920
Speaker 5: So you know, all that being said was, uh, yeah,

829
00:43:21,040 --> 00:43:24,080
Speaker 5: we got this issue. Unfortunately, we can't go up to

830
00:43:24,600 --> 00:43:27,120
Speaker 5: cruising speed because then you run the risk of the

831
00:43:27,200 --> 00:43:29,799
Speaker 5: landing gear actually freezing because they can't close the door.

832
00:43:31,320 --> 00:43:33,880
Speaker 5: So yeah, when we had to turn around because of

833
00:43:33,880 --> 00:43:36,080
Speaker 5: that issue, I think everybody was like, all right, we're cool.

834
00:43:36,200 --> 00:43:39,480
Speaker 5: It's an inconvenience, it's no big deal. It was kind

835
00:43:39,520 --> 00:43:41,800
Speaker 5: of fun to see the fire trucks out on the runway.

836
00:43:41,960 --> 00:43:45,080
Speaker 5: But you know, as we've kind of talked about before,

837
00:43:45,200 --> 00:43:48,520
Speaker 5: especially with all the London games and traveling abroad, you know,

838
00:43:48,600 --> 00:43:50,520
Speaker 5: Paul Martin and his staff, they do such a good

839
00:43:50,600 --> 00:43:53,880
Speaker 5: job with all the logistics. I'm sure he was frantic.

840
00:43:53,960 --> 00:43:55,879
Speaker 5: I'm sure. I know I wasn't seeing next to him,

841
00:43:55,920 --> 00:43:57,879
Speaker 5: but I'm sure he was on the phone the whole

842
00:43:57,880 --> 00:44:01,200
Speaker 5: time trying to get things organized logistically. But you know,

843
00:44:01,239 --> 00:44:03,560
Speaker 5: they've done this a long time. They have contingency plans

844
00:44:03,680 --> 00:44:06,640
Speaker 5: for when playing sort of malfunction. So we got on

845
00:44:06,640 --> 00:44:08,080
Speaker 5: the ground. We were on the ground, probably a little

846
00:44:08,080 --> 00:44:11,280
Speaker 5: bit longer than I think they anticipated, but everybody was safe.

847
00:44:11,360 --> 00:44:14,120
Speaker 5: They took care of us. We got a bunch of snacks,

848
00:44:14,239 --> 00:44:15,359
Speaker 5: a lot of players.

849
00:44:15,760 --> 00:44:16,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, there you go.

850
00:44:16,480 --> 00:44:18,080
Speaker 5: I mean, I don't know, I don't I don't see

851
00:44:18,080 --> 00:44:18,960
Speaker 5: how they can really complain.

852
00:44:19,080 --> 00:44:22,520
Speaker 4: No, it's not yeah, there's uh, there's I'm actually proud

853
00:44:22,560 --> 00:44:26,520
Speaker 4: that the media jackals. I sensed after Saturday that they

854
00:44:26,520 --> 00:44:29,920
Speaker 4: were going to fixate on that yesterday and not so

855
00:44:30,000 --> 00:44:31,480
Speaker 4: much you know, in the in the game story, because

856
00:44:31,880 --> 00:44:35,120
Speaker 4: it's inconvenient, it's not fun. It's not ideal, but I

857
00:44:35,120 --> 00:44:36,759
Speaker 4: don't think it necessarily has to be the end of

858
00:44:36,800 --> 00:44:39,080
Speaker 4: the world, especially for people who travel as much as

859
00:44:39,120 --> 00:44:39,960
Speaker 4: you guys all travel.

860
00:44:41,000 --> 00:44:43,080
Speaker 5: No, not at all. And I think that they were

861
00:44:43,360 --> 00:44:47,920
Speaker 5: I'm sure that the coaches were able to communicate whatever

862
00:44:47,960 --> 00:44:49,600
Speaker 5: they were gonna they were going to talk about in

863
00:44:49,680 --> 00:44:52,440
Speaker 5: their meetings and their breakdown meetings on Saturday night anyway,

864
00:44:52,440 --> 00:44:54,800
Speaker 5: I'm sure they could get all that necessary information to

865
00:44:55,360 --> 00:44:57,960
Speaker 5: privately to the guys and to the you know, specific

866
00:44:57,960 --> 00:45:00,759
Speaker 5: position groups. And it's not like you guys need to

867
00:45:00,800 --> 00:45:03,040
Speaker 5: have KOC give them a raw ros speech on a

868
00:45:03,080 --> 00:45:06,480
Speaker 5: Saturday night, you know so, and and I'm going to

869
00:45:06,520 --> 00:45:08,640
Speaker 5: guess some of it was even handled on Sunday morning

870
00:45:08,640 --> 00:45:13,480
Speaker 5: with they it was necessary. So yeah, it does throw

871
00:45:13,520 --> 00:45:16,799
Speaker 5: you off just a tad But your professionals, it's not

872
00:45:16,920 --> 00:45:20,120
Speaker 5: like we're on a ten game road track and this

873
00:45:20,280 --> 00:45:23,080
Speaker 5: happens like we're you know, hockey players or baseball players.

874
00:45:23,120 --> 00:45:25,880
Speaker 5: Those guys have it way worse. So if you can't

875
00:45:25,880 --> 00:45:28,840
Speaker 5: handle that hiccup, then you're not much of a professional.

876
00:45:28,960 --> 00:45:32,160
Speaker 4: Did you I'm getting text about, so, did you leave

877
00:45:32,200 --> 00:45:34,040
Speaker 4: your notebook at Giants Stadium?

878
00:45:34,080 --> 00:45:35,879
Speaker 2: Is there a good backstory.

879
00:45:35,320 --> 00:45:38,400
Speaker 5: Here, man, I wish there was a good backstory. You know.

880
00:45:38,560 --> 00:45:42,120
Speaker 5: I take pride in in the notebooks that I used

881
00:45:42,520 --> 00:45:46,240
Speaker 5: for this season, and it's one of the few joys

882
00:45:46,239 --> 00:45:47,719
Speaker 5: that I have in my life is going to an

883
00:45:47,719 --> 00:45:53,920
Speaker 5: office supply store and getting my my stuff before the season. So, yeah,

884
00:45:54,040 --> 00:45:56,040
Speaker 5: you know, I go out and get this nice noteball.

885
00:45:56,200 --> 00:45:59,920
Speaker 5: It's really heavy duty paper, and I know exactly what

886
00:46:00,000 --> 00:46:03,040
Speaker 5: where I left it on the field, and I ran

887
00:46:03,080 --> 00:46:05,320
Speaker 5: off the field because yes, I was being a baby

888
00:46:05,360 --> 00:46:07,239
Speaker 5: and I was cold, and I'm like, I'm tired of

889
00:46:07,239 --> 00:46:09,080
Speaker 5: being out here for three and a half hours. I

890
00:46:09,120 --> 00:46:13,839
Speaker 5: want to run inside. So I run inside, And yeah,

891
00:46:13,920 --> 00:46:15,920
Speaker 5: didn't realize that I didn't that I left it there

892
00:46:16,000 --> 00:46:18,000
Speaker 5: until this morning as I was on the power trip

893
00:46:18,040 --> 00:46:19,759
Speaker 5: and I go through my backpack to try to find

894
00:46:19,760 --> 00:46:22,080
Speaker 5: my notebook to pull out all my game notes that

895
00:46:22,160 --> 00:46:25,040
Speaker 5: I'd handwritten down, and I wasn't there, and I'm like,

896
00:46:25,600 --> 00:46:27,560
Speaker 5: son of a bee, I know exactly where that's at.

897
00:46:27,600 --> 00:46:29,919
Speaker 5: So I went across the street, went to the office

898
00:46:29,920 --> 00:46:33,680
Speaker 5: supply store, got a brand new notebook. It's fresh, I

899
00:46:33,719 --> 00:46:36,160
Speaker 5: got a different color this time, nice, and I'm ready

900
00:46:36,200 --> 00:46:36,959
Speaker 5: to rock and roll.

901
00:46:37,120 --> 00:46:39,799
Speaker 4: So you're telling me no one turned it in at

902
00:46:39,880 --> 00:46:44,040
Speaker 4: Giant Stadium, right, No.

903
00:46:43,920 --> 00:46:46,160
Speaker 5: I'm guessing. I'm guessing the people that a clean up crew,

904
00:46:46,600 --> 00:46:49,239
Speaker 5: they probably they probably flipped through that and they're like, well,

905
00:46:49,239 --> 00:46:51,680
Speaker 5: this guy has terrible penmanship. I can't even read what

906
00:46:51,719 --> 00:46:54,160
Speaker 5: this chicken scratches. I'm just gonna go ahead and throw

907
00:46:54,200 --> 00:46:54,640
Speaker 5: this away.

908
00:46:54,880 --> 00:46:58,840
Speaker 4: What is the closest Ben Leber has ever come to

909
00:46:58,960 --> 00:47:03,840
Speaker 4: having a confrontation, either before, during, or after a game

910
00:47:04,040 --> 00:47:09,439
Speaker 4: regular season, preseason, postseason with a fan. Has there ever

911
00:47:09,520 --> 00:47:12,239
Speaker 4: been anything you can point to say, Man, I really

912
00:47:12,320 --> 00:47:14,319
Speaker 4: can't Yeah, I didn't do it, but I really I

913
00:47:14,360 --> 00:47:17,239
Speaker 4: wanted to nail somebody. Or is this completely like a

914
00:47:17,280 --> 00:47:18,040
Speaker 4: foreign language?

915
00:47:19,560 --> 00:47:22,680
Speaker 5: Oh, that's never happened with me with a fan. All

916
00:47:22,719 --> 00:47:25,560
Speaker 5: the fan engagement in the interactions that I've ever had

917
00:47:25,600 --> 00:47:29,319
Speaker 5: have been really, really positive. Now we'll see this. There

918
00:47:29,440 --> 00:47:35,880
Speaker 5: was a time where I was in Chicago and I

919
00:47:35,960 --> 00:47:39,279
Speaker 5: was wearing one of those those baseball caps that just

920
00:47:39,440 --> 00:47:44,600
Speaker 5: say soda on it, so ota, and one of the

921
00:47:44,640 --> 00:47:47,359
Speaker 5: security guards comes over to me and he's like, hey, man,

922
00:47:47,400 --> 00:47:50,160
Speaker 5: what's up with the hat? And I go, what do

923
00:47:50,160 --> 00:47:52,880
Speaker 5: you mean? I go ah. This is a short for

924
00:47:53,360 --> 00:47:56,960
Speaker 5: the slang from Minnesota this soda. He's like sure about that,

925
00:47:57,520 --> 00:47:59,160
Speaker 5: and he like kind of got he kind of like

926
00:47:59,239 --> 00:48:02,520
Speaker 5: got aggressive, like you kind of stepped to me, and

927
00:48:02,560 --> 00:48:06,320
Speaker 5: he's like you sure about that? And I go, yeah,

928
00:48:06,320 --> 00:48:09,600
Speaker 5: what's what's the problem? And he's like, you're you're telling

929
00:48:09,680 --> 00:48:13,279
Speaker 5: me that that's all that means? I go, yeah, what's

930
00:48:13,280 --> 00:48:13,880
Speaker 5: your problem?

931
00:48:13,920 --> 00:48:14,120
Speaker 4: Pal?

932
00:48:15,080 --> 00:48:18,719
Speaker 5: And he basically was telling me that that is like

933
00:48:18,760 --> 00:48:23,799
Speaker 5: a biker gang or some sort of gang. And I

934
00:48:23,880 --> 00:48:26,920
Speaker 5: was like, yeah, man, I'm I'm not a part of

935
00:48:26,920 --> 00:48:29,080
Speaker 5: a non affiliate with any sort of gang. I'm like,

936
00:48:29,080 --> 00:48:31,799
Speaker 5: I'm the sideliner reporter for the Vikes. And he's like

937
00:48:32,000 --> 00:48:34,840
Speaker 5: side eye me. He's like all right, and then I

938
00:48:34,920 --> 00:48:38,359
Speaker 5: thought it was over. Then another police officer later on

939
00:48:38,880 --> 00:48:43,120
Speaker 5: approached me more aggressively and was like, sir, what's up

940
00:48:43,120 --> 00:48:48,839
Speaker 5: with your hating? Yeah? And I'm like, boy, you guys

941
00:48:48,880 --> 00:48:51,440
Speaker 5: are all worried about the wrong thing, Like what if

942
00:48:51,680 --> 00:48:54,640
Speaker 5: what if I was a biker gang member of the

943
00:48:54,840 --> 00:48:58,640
Speaker 5: Chicago affiliate, Like what's the deal? Like, I've got my

944
00:48:58,680 --> 00:49:01,640
Speaker 5: wristband on that says I'm part of the NFL media.

945
00:49:01,760 --> 00:49:03,440
Speaker 5: Like what are you gonna what are you gonna do

946
00:49:03,560 --> 00:49:03,960
Speaker 5: about him?

947
00:49:04,000 --> 00:49:04,440
Speaker 2: Huh?

948
00:49:04,520 --> 00:49:06,840
Speaker 5: That's why I want to say to him. But should

949
00:49:07,000 --> 00:49:09,439
Speaker 5: I didn't have to talk back to them.

950
00:49:09,480 --> 00:49:13,120
Speaker 2: So this was Chicago, this Chicago. How long ago is

951
00:49:13,120 --> 00:49:14,840
Speaker 2: that I remember this story? How long ago was this?

952
00:49:16,400 --> 00:49:16,520
Speaker 1: Uh?

953
00:49:17,000 --> 00:49:20,799
Speaker 2: Probably I can just I can just hear it. You

954
00:49:20,840 --> 00:49:21,400
Speaker 2: sure about that?

955
00:49:21,440 --> 00:49:23,799
Speaker 4: You know that, that that whole attitude, you know, we

956
00:49:23,840 --> 00:49:25,239
Speaker 4: all know it, we all see Well.

957
00:49:25,160 --> 00:49:26,920
Speaker 2: You sure that's what it's about. You sure there's not

958
00:49:26,960 --> 00:49:29,160
Speaker 2: some other statement you're trying to make. Oh God, that's fair.

959
00:49:29,239 --> 00:49:32,480
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm like, chill out. Yeah, she like yeah, I'm like,

960
00:49:32,600 --> 00:49:35,839
Speaker 5: I'm I'm sure you know, like take you take your

961
00:49:35,840 --> 00:49:38,560
Speaker 5: little gold tooth and like stop staring at me and

962
00:49:38,560 --> 00:49:40,680
Speaker 5: stop giving me a hard time. Like not that big

963
00:49:40,719 --> 00:49:41,200
Speaker 5: of a deal.

964
00:49:41,520 --> 00:49:44,239
Speaker 4: So you probably heard the news. I brought it up

965
00:49:44,239 --> 00:49:46,920
Speaker 4: obviously because Metcalf. I think the league is suspended him

966
00:49:46,920 --> 00:49:50,719
Speaker 4: for two games. He had an altercation, uh with a

967
00:49:50,719 --> 00:49:54,200
Speaker 4: fan over the top of the railing behind the visiting

968
00:49:54,239 --> 00:49:56,839
Speaker 4: bench in Detroit and kind of took a I don't

969
00:49:56,840 --> 00:49:58,840
Speaker 4: wouldn't call it a punch, but kind of a swipe

970
00:49:59,200 --> 00:50:01,920
Speaker 4: at him. It's a very bizarre scenes. I guess he's

971
00:50:01,920 --> 00:50:05,040
Speaker 4: suspended for two He's appealing to suspension what I don't

972
00:50:05,080 --> 00:50:07,000
Speaker 4: know about the way the NFL works is if you

973
00:50:07,040 --> 00:50:10,360
Speaker 4: appeal the suspension, does that mean it takes a long

974
00:50:10,440 --> 00:50:14,319
Speaker 4: time before they actually can act on the suspension or

975
00:50:14,719 --> 00:50:17,239
Speaker 4: is it likely that he's gonna still miss time this year?

976
00:50:17,239 --> 00:50:18,600
Speaker 2: Do you know how that works in the NFL?

977
00:50:19,520 --> 00:50:21,520
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think this will be one of those like

978
00:50:21,600 --> 00:50:24,560
Speaker 5: he'll serve it next year, because there's got to be

979
00:50:24,600 --> 00:50:28,600
Speaker 5: a whole thing of discovery, right I mean, yeah, yeah,

980
00:50:28,640 --> 00:50:31,200
Speaker 5: the the act of it, you have to like respond

981
00:50:31,239 --> 00:50:33,320
Speaker 5: immediate and say, like then you can't put your hands

982
00:50:33,320 --> 00:50:36,200
Speaker 5: on a fan, right, So we're gonna we're gonna ding

983
00:50:36,239 --> 00:50:37,840
Speaker 5: you for that. But if it does come out that

984
00:50:37,880 --> 00:50:42,040
Speaker 5: the guy was using racial slurs right right, saying say

985
00:50:42,040 --> 00:50:44,640
Speaker 5: and stuff like that, then I would say, yeah, man,

986
00:50:44,800 --> 00:50:47,719
Speaker 5: punch away. You know, Like I think the NFL p

987
00:50:47,920 --> 00:50:50,479
Speaker 5: PA is obviously going to get involved in DK saying

988
00:50:50,520 --> 00:50:53,239
Speaker 5: hey this was said and that was said. Then I

989
00:50:53,239 --> 00:50:55,920
Speaker 5: think he's got a case for getting it reduced or

990
00:50:55,960 --> 00:51:01,080
Speaker 5: if not, just like completely expunged. So yeah, I'm kind

991
00:51:01,080 --> 00:51:02,680
Speaker 5: of excited to see what happens. I mean, I know

992
00:51:02,719 --> 00:51:05,960
Speaker 5: that you know DK, you know, I think he's got

993
00:51:06,000 --> 00:51:09,320
Speaker 5: a little bit of a temper history. But yeah, then terrible.

994
00:51:09,480 --> 00:51:13,360
Speaker 5: And you know this, if this uh, this fan was

995
00:51:13,360 --> 00:51:17,160
Speaker 5: being unruly in a really racial way, then I say

996
00:51:17,239 --> 00:51:18,680
Speaker 5: he deserved to punch to the face.

997
00:51:18,920 --> 00:51:20,960
Speaker 2: What so, what do we got two games left?

998
00:51:21,160 --> 00:51:21,279
Speaker 5: Right?

999
00:51:21,320 --> 00:51:24,520
Speaker 4: They're both in the division? I think, what what are

1000
00:51:24,560 --> 00:51:26,040
Speaker 4: we looking for the rest of the way just to

1001
00:51:26,080 --> 00:51:30,560
Speaker 4: get through it? Or especially if if you know McCarthy

1002
00:51:30,600 --> 00:51:34,120
Speaker 4: can't go, what's what's left to do? Well?

1003
00:51:34,160 --> 00:51:37,839
Speaker 5: I think that's the problem here is if McCarthy can't go,

1004
00:51:39,120 --> 00:51:43,239
Speaker 5: then then the season has been kind of a waste. Yeah,

1005
00:51:43,320 --> 00:51:46,960
Speaker 5: you know, like I know that sounds harsh, but if

1006
00:51:47,000 --> 00:51:49,239
Speaker 5: you're not gonna if you're not going to make the playoffs,

1007
00:51:49,400 --> 00:51:52,680
Speaker 5: and and feel like your quarterback is the franchise quarterback

1008
00:51:52,719 --> 00:51:56,680
Speaker 5: that can lead us in the future, then then what

1009
00:51:56,719 --> 00:51:58,959
Speaker 5: do we got here? Then we got just a bunch

1010
00:51:59,040 --> 00:52:01,200
Speaker 5: of injuries and just a bunch of question marks. I

1011
00:52:01,200 --> 00:52:04,320
Speaker 5: think the worst thing that could happen to this team

1012
00:52:04,360 --> 00:52:06,880
Speaker 5: going forward was to walk out of the season with

1013
00:52:07,080 --> 00:52:11,480
Speaker 5: question marks, especially at the quarterback spot. And if that's

1014
00:52:11,520 --> 00:52:13,239
Speaker 5: what we're in And I know there's probably some fans

1015
00:52:13,239 --> 00:52:15,319
Speaker 5: out there saying right now, like doesn't matter if he

1016
00:52:15,360 --> 00:52:18,799
Speaker 5: plays two healthy games and continues to play well. There

1017
00:52:18,840 --> 00:52:20,919
Speaker 5: are still some people that think that's a question mark,

1018
00:52:20,960 --> 00:52:24,000
Speaker 5: and I would I understand it. I disagree. I think

1019
00:52:24,040 --> 00:52:28,279
Speaker 5: if he plays well and continues to improve and we

1020
00:52:28,360 --> 00:52:31,120
Speaker 5: continue to expand the playbook, then I would say it's

1021
00:52:31,120 --> 00:52:34,560
Speaker 5: a winning season because guess what, we found the answer

1022
00:52:34,920 --> 00:52:38,120
Speaker 5: to the most important position in football. And if we

1023
00:52:38,160 --> 00:52:41,640
Speaker 5: can't get that, then, yeah, unfortunately, it's a bit of

1024
00:52:41,680 --> 00:52:42,480
Speaker 5: a failed season.

1025
00:52:43,480 --> 00:52:45,520
Speaker 4: Now I'm being told I got to ask you about

1026
00:52:45,560 --> 00:52:48,440
Speaker 4: the airplane bathroom. Is there another another backstory that we

1027
00:52:48,480 --> 00:52:50,719
Speaker 4: need to go over that you discussed earlier that's too

1028
00:52:50,760 --> 00:52:51,560
Speaker 4: good to miss.

1029
00:52:51,400 --> 00:52:55,200
Speaker 5: Out to not follow up on the airplane bathroom?

1030
00:52:55,200 --> 00:53:00,399
Speaker 4: Is airplane bathroom store? There's three different people were asking

1031
00:53:00,440 --> 00:53:03,000
Speaker 4: me about a plane bathroom incident. Maybe they're just trying

1032
00:53:03,000 --> 00:53:03,520
Speaker 4: to get me going.

1033
00:53:03,560 --> 00:53:03,920
Speaker 5: I don't know.

1034
00:53:05,440 --> 00:53:08,080
Speaker 2: No, you're not trying to protect me from that might.

1035
00:53:07,960 --> 00:53:09,440
Speaker 5: Be like more of a Chris Hockey story.

1036
00:53:09,520 --> 00:53:10,799
Speaker 2: That's probably true.

1037
00:53:10,960 --> 00:53:13,360
Speaker 5: Yeah, maybe there's maybe there's some confusion.

1038
00:53:13,400 --> 00:53:14,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, there might be.

1039
00:53:14,480 --> 00:53:17,800
Speaker 5: I've never had never had a story that I could

1040
00:53:17,800 --> 00:53:21,560
Speaker 5: share or maybe like privately could share that involved an airplane.

1041
00:53:22,680 --> 00:53:25,120
Speaker 4: I thought maybe it was an added mishap from the flight,

1042
00:53:25,200 --> 00:53:26,759
Speaker 4: you know, where you had to change planes, and that

1043
00:53:26,880 --> 00:53:28,759
Speaker 4: was to add insult injury. There was something else, but

1044
00:53:28,800 --> 00:53:32,640
Speaker 4: maybe maybe it's a little bit more decadent than that. Lastly,

1045
00:53:32,719 --> 00:53:34,800
Speaker 4: you got a little national time light yesterday.

1046
00:53:34,800 --> 00:53:36,959
Speaker 2: Do you know that? Who Who was it who ran

1047
00:53:37,239 --> 00:53:37,600
Speaker 2: to you?

1048
00:53:38,840 --> 00:53:41,200
Speaker 4: What Viking ran to you towards in the towards the

1049
00:53:41,239 --> 00:53:43,800
Speaker 4: sidelines where you got some national camera time yesterday?

1050
00:53:43,920 --> 00:53:45,080
Speaker 5: Yeah, that was Aaron Jones.

1051
00:53:45,120 --> 00:53:45,879
Speaker 2: Jones, that's right.

1052
00:53:46,560 --> 00:53:47,040
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1053
00:53:47,400 --> 00:53:47,600
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1054
00:53:47,640 --> 00:53:51,319
Speaker 5: The funny thing about that is, like ten seconds before that,

1055
00:53:51,400 --> 00:53:54,240
Speaker 5: I was closer to the Vikings bench, just again taking

1056
00:53:55,080 --> 00:53:58,960
Speaker 5: some notes on my notebook they don't have anymore. I

1057
00:53:59,000 --> 00:54:01,239
Speaker 5: was kind of finishing some and I was kind of

1058
00:54:01,320 --> 00:54:03,560
Speaker 5: I just kind of walked over and found a little

1059
00:54:03,600 --> 00:54:06,359
Speaker 5: hole in the scrum of people on the sidelines where

1060
00:54:06,360 --> 00:54:09,360
Speaker 5: I could watch the action. And I was literally staying

1061
00:54:09,400 --> 00:54:11,640
Speaker 5: there for like a couple of seconds before that play started.

1062
00:54:11,680 --> 00:54:14,960
Speaker 5: And then he comes running over, and yeah, it just

1063
00:54:15,000 --> 00:54:18,080
Speaker 5: happened to come running right towards me, and I knew

1064
00:54:18,120 --> 00:54:19,680
Speaker 5: he was going to stop, so I didn't. I didn't

1065
00:54:19,680 --> 00:54:21,200
Speaker 5: feel like I had to like run out of the way,

1066
00:54:21,440 --> 00:54:22,880
Speaker 5: so I just kind of like stood.

1067
00:54:22,600 --> 00:54:24,440
Speaker 2: There, did pat on.

1068
00:54:24,440 --> 00:54:26,560
Speaker 5: The shoulder path and did not realize that the camera

1069
00:54:26,640 --> 00:54:28,480
Speaker 5: that was to the left of me was the National

1070
00:54:28,680 --> 00:54:31,360
Speaker 5: Fox camera. So yeah, I got a couple of texts

1071
00:54:31,360 --> 00:54:33,000
Speaker 5: from that, people sent some pictures.

1072
00:54:33,080 --> 00:54:34,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean it was you See, that's the difference

1073
00:54:34,960 --> 00:54:38,080
Speaker 4: in me. I'd have been retreating like twenty five thirty feet,

1074
00:54:38,200 --> 00:54:40,560
Speaker 4: just assuming the worst. But see, you're a former player

1075
00:54:40,600 --> 00:54:41,880
Speaker 4: and you know how to You know you're not going

1076
00:54:41,960 --> 00:54:44,360
Speaker 4: to panic, You're not going to over or react and

1077
00:54:45,000 --> 00:54:46,320
Speaker 4: look like a fool like I would.

1078
00:54:48,239 --> 00:54:50,920
Speaker 5: I actually, you know, I I do want to. I

1079
00:54:50,960 --> 00:54:53,440
Speaker 5: am very aware about what's going on, and yes, that

1080
00:54:53,520 --> 00:54:55,520
Speaker 5: is the last thing I would rather get run over

1081
00:54:56,160 --> 00:54:58,200
Speaker 5: than look like one of those guys that scurry and

1082
00:54:58,239 --> 00:55:02,640
Speaker 5: like a little mouse off. So I do feel like,

1083
00:55:02,680 --> 00:55:04,239
Speaker 5: even though I'm not pad of them, I know how

1084
00:55:04,239 --> 00:55:04,879
Speaker 5: to protect money.

1085
00:55:04,960 --> 00:55:06,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's probably true.

1086
00:55:06,719 --> 00:55:09,959
Speaker 4: By the way, the notebooks, including now the one you lost,

1087
00:55:10,000 --> 00:55:12,680
Speaker 4: you lost, But like, so do you say, I mean,

1088
00:55:12,719 --> 00:55:14,640
Speaker 4: do you have them for like the last several years.

1089
00:55:14,640 --> 00:55:16,840
Speaker 4: Do you have like you keep them in a special place,

1090
00:55:17,160 --> 00:55:19,000
Speaker 4: all the notes you take each year?

1091
00:55:19,000 --> 00:55:20,000
Speaker 2: I figured you probably would.

1092
00:55:20,080 --> 00:55:23,400
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah I do. I've got ah, I've got a

1093
00:55:23,520 --> 00:55:26,160
Speaker 5: drawer in my office where I've got. Yeah, that's nice,

1094
00:55:26,600 --> 00:55:28,680
Speaker 5: you know, for I don't know, i'd probably say the

1095
00:55:28,760 --> 00:55:31,160
Speaker 5: last five seasons of game notes.

1096
00:55:32,960 --> 00:55:34,000
Speaker 2: That's good. I like that.

1097
00:55:34,000 --> 00:55:35,640
Speaker 4: That's good history right there, you know. I mean you

1098
00:55:35,680 --> 00:55:37,200
Speaker 4: I don't know how often you look back at it,

1099
00:55:37,239 --> 00:55:39,480
Speaker 4: but it's just, you know, there's probably a feeling of okay, yeah,

1100
00:55:39,520 --> 00:55:40,839
Speaker 4: that's part of what I do.

1101
00:55:40,920 --> 00:55:41,959
Speaker 2: You know, I kind of like I.

1102
00:55:41,920 --> 00:55:44,080
Speaker 5: Liked putting that together, whish I did, But I hardly

1103
00:55:44,120 --> 00:55:46,560
Speaker 5: ever look back at them because it's just, you know,

1104
00:55:46,640 --> 00:55:48,560
Speaker 5: every year kind of stands on its own, right. So

1105
00:55:50,040 --> 00:55:52,200
Speaker 5: I do still have I do still have my San

1106
00:55:52,239 --> 00:55:54,759
Speaker 5: Diego Chargers playbook. That's kind of fun. Do you really

1107
00:55:54,920 --> 00:55:56,600
Speaker 5: actually interesting?

1108
00:55:56,719 --> 00:55:58,680
Speaker 2: Is it? Is it a big fat playbook? Was it

1109
00:55:58,719 --> 00:55:59,319
Speaker 2: a big fat one?

1110
00:55:59,400 --> 00:56:02,360
Speaker 5: Yeah? Yeah, oh yeah, there's probably it's probably you know,

1111
00:56:02,400 --> 00:56:04,719
Speaker 5: two hundred pages all, you know, it's got everything on there.

1112
00:56:04,760 --> 00:56:07,799
Speaker 5: It's got all of our offensive identifications, it's got all

1113
00:56:07,800 --> 00:56:10,839
Speaker 5: the terminology, it's got all our plays and blitzes. Yeah,

1114
00:56:10,880 --> 00:56:11,520
Speaker 5: it's kind of fun.

1115
00:56:11,880 --> 00:56:12,919
Speaker 2: Two on eight Guy Rights.

1116
00:56:12,960 --> 00:56:15,839
Speaker 4: We've gotten more updates on Lever's missing notebook today than

1117
00:56:15,840 --> 00:56:20,120
Speaker 4: we have on JJ's hand, which is probably true because

1118
00:56:20,160 --> 00:56:22,640
Speaker 4: I don't think we're getting anything official today, we didn't

1119
00:56:22,640 --> 00:56:24,480
Speaker 4: get I don't think they had to meet officially today

1120
00:56:24,520 --> 00:56:27,560
Speaker 4: with the Jackals, so I don't We may have unofficially.

1121
00:56:27,600 --> 00:56:30,080
Speaker 4: You may have more knowledge, but I don't think we've

1122
00:56:30,080 --> 00:56:33,160
Speaker 4: got anything official on JJ for the next ques No,

1123
00:56:33,560 --> 00:56:33,920
Speaker 4: I've heard.

1124
00:56:34,040 --> 00:56:36,680
Speaker 5: I've heard nothing official, So I'm kind of waiting, just

1125
00:56:36,719 --> 00:56:39,279
Speaker 5: like you guys are right, you know, kind of refreshing

1126
00:56:39,360 --> 00:56:42,880
Speaker 5: my my x account. But yeah, if there was no

1127
00:56:42,920 --> 00:56:45,760
Speaker 5: official press conference, then we probably won't know it till tomorrow.

1128
00:56:46,200 --> 00:56:48,600
Speaker 4: Merry Christmas, Happy New Year. I'm going to take a

1129
00:56:48,640 --> 00:56:50,480
Speaker 4: little time too, so we'll get back together at some

1130
00:56:50,480 --> 00:56:53,520
Speaker 4: point down down the down towards the end of the season.

1131
00:56:53,520 --> 00:56:54,160
Speaker 4: Thanks Natcho.

1132
00:56:55,239 --> 00:56:57,200
Speaker 5: All right, sounds good man. Merry Christmas to you.

1133
00:56:57,400 --> 00:56:58,000
Speaker 2: Appreciate you.

1134
00:56:58,120 --> 00:57:02,600
Speaker 4: Take care you too, Nacho liber on a lot of things,

1135
00:57:02,640 --> 00:57:04,920
Speaker 4: and we didn't really spend all that much time on

1136
00:57:04,960 --> 00:57:07,239
Speaker 4: the game because, let's be honest, it's just that much.

1137
00:57:07,520 --> 00:57:09,160
Speaker 4: I mean, we could light in pretend that there was

1138
00:57:09,239 --> 00:57:12,400
Speaker 4: reason too, but they just ain't that much meat on

1139
00:57:12,440 --> 00:57:16,919
Speaker 4: the bone. However, instead of the top five at five,

1140
00:57:17,760 --> 00:57:20,040
Speaker 4: we're going to get the return of the five twenty

1141
00:57:20,120 --> 00:57:22,160
Speaker 4: Sports Fix, which in effect is the Top five at five,

1142
00:57:22,200 --> 00:57:25,760
Speaker 4: just a little bit late with Sam, who's filling in

1143
00:57:25,960 --> 00:57:29,439
Speaker 4: for Guargy today. You want to tease us with any

1144
00:57:29,520 --> 00:57:31,960
Speaker 4: of your top headline items, we're going to discuss. Sure,

1145
00:57:32,400 --> 00:57:36,320
Speaker 4: got wolves wild, big night in Miami on Friday, and

1146
00:57:36,400 --> 00:57:37,760
Speaker 4: some football playoff stuff.