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Speaker 1: It's Night Side with Dan Ray on Belgibs, Boston's news Radio.

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Speaker 2: All right, again, my thanks to Heather Bish and Kathy

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Speaker 2: Cowerin for talking with us that past hour about the

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Speaker 2: disappearance of Heather's younger sister Molly. Just you know again,

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Speaker 2: the point that Paul from Nantasket made was really a

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Speaker 2: good one, and he was supported by Heather that there

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Speaker 2: are so many of these people. We as a society

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Speaker 2: want to give people a second and a third chance,

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Speaker 2: and there are some people who literally should be locked

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Speaker 2: up and the keys thrown away. And if you do

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Speaker 2: have any information on that you think might be relevant

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Speaker 2: to the Molly Bisch case, I know it's twenty six

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Speaker 2: years later. Massachusetts State Police, the office of the Worcester

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Speaker 2: they truly believed that the person who did this to

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Speaker 2: Molly Bish is now dead, was not brought to justice,

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Speaker 2: at least in this life. So we move on. I

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Speaker 2: was listening over the weekend and there was a posting

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Speaker 2: that Donald Trump put on truth Social that's his website

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Speaker 2: that he basically postsu and it caught my eye, and

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Speaker 2: I'm wondering if this is a prelude to a larger strategy.

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Speaker 2: Let me read to you what he wrote, and then

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Speaker 2: I'm going to try to interpret it, and I'm going

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Speaker 2: to suggest that well, I'm going to suggest an idea,

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Speaker 2: think the idea has any merit. So on Saturday, I

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Speaker 2: believe the President wrote I have instructed Secretary of Homeland

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Speaker 2: Security Christy Nome that under no circumstances are we going

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Speaker 2: to participate in various poorly run Democrat cities with regard

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Speaker 2: to their protest in or riots unless and until they

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Speaker 2: ask us for help. We will, however, guard, and very

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Speaker 2: powerfully so, any and all federal buildings that are being

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Speaker 2: attacked by these highly paid lunatics, agitators and insurrectionists. Please

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Speaker 2: be aware that I have instructed ice into or Border

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Speaker 2: Patrol to be very forceful in this protection of federal property.

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Speaker 2: There will be no spitting in the faces of our officers,

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Speaker 2: there will be no punch or kicking the headlights of

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Speaker 2: our cars, and there'll be no rock or brick throwing

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Speaker 2: in our vehicles or at our patriot warriors. If there is,

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Speaker 2: those people will suffer an equal to more consequence. In

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Speaker 2: the meantime. By copy of this statement, I'm informing local governments,

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Speaker 2: as I did in Los Angeles when they were writing

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Speaker 2: at the end of the Biden term, that you must

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Speaker 2: protect your own state and local property. In addition, it

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Speaker 2: is your obligation to also protect our federal property, buildings, parks,

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Speaker 2: and everything else. We are there to protect federal property

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Speaker 2: only as a backup in that it is local and

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Speaker 2: state's responsibility to do so. He goes in and talks

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Speaker 2: about an event in Eugene, Oregon. Here's my point. The

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Speaker 2: president was questioned on Air Force one. I think he

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Speaker 2: was headed somewhere, and the audio of his interview on

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Speaker 2: Air Force one is difficult. But I'm going to play

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Speaker 2: two quick sound bites and beer with me. One is

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Speaker 2: seventeen seconds long and one is thirty four seconds long.

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Speaker 2: And then I want to put out a theory that

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Speaker 2: I have and I want to get your thoughts on that.

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Speaker 2: So this has cut thirty three a. This is the

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Speaker 2: It's difficult here, but I think it will work. Thirty

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Speaker 3: Los Angeles is an example. We went in, we solved it,

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Speaker 3: the chief law enforcement officer Los Angeles, and they couldn't

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Speaker 3: have done it without the federal government. A week later,

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Speaker 3: he said they didn't need the federal government, you know, so.

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Speaker 2: We don't want that.

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Speaker 3: If they want help, they'll ask.

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Speaker 2: But they have to say please. Okay. So he's talking

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Speaker 2: They'll have to ask. And then he was asked about

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Speaker 2: the Department of Homeland Security funding and the whole question

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Speaker 2: come to an agreement or whether we'll have another government

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Speaker 2: short shutdown. We technically, I guess we have a government

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Speaker 2: Just to be aware of this, this could could blow

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Speaker 2: happens when Congress reconvenes tomorrow in Washington. Cut thirty four

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Speaker 2: please Rob hech has funding, sir. The Democrats have made

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Speaker 4: They say they want no roving patrols.

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Speaker 2: They want to establish rules for use of force and

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Speaker 2: they want masks on and Buddy can talk about it.

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Speaker 1: It's not appropriate yet.

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Speaker 3: We have to let a little time go by, but

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Speaker 2: But you know, we want.

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Speaker 3: Elected for law enforcement, for the border, for the economy.

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Speaker 2: Things I've done a great job with.

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Speaker 3: I mean, when you have the lowest crime rate in

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Speaker 3: We'll have to talk about that over the next.

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Speaker 2: Three or four days. Okay, so that's a little bit

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Speaker 2: off target, but that's fine. So now my question is this,

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Speaker 2: I'm wondering if President Trump is laying the foundation for

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Speaker 2: our decision. Obviously, I think we can agree that all

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Speaker 2: that has gone down in Minnesota by virtue of the

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Speaker 2: fact that he reassigned the people who were in charge.

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Speaker 2: And I'm wondering if in the back of Donald Trump's

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Speaker 2: we will not go into cities in which they are

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Speaker 2: certainly the governor up there and the mayor, we're not

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Speaker 2: Border Patrol people. Just as here in Boston. I'm sure

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Speaker 2: that the City of Boston has made it very clear

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Speaker 2: that whatever they would need to do in Boston, what again,

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Speaker 2: they would have no cooperation from either state police. I'm

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Speaker 2: not saying that the state police individuals, but obviously the

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Speaker 2: state police work or under the command ultimately of the governor,

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Speaker 2: just as the city police are ultimately under the command

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Speaker 2: of mayor WU. And their are other cities Portland, Maine, Portland, Oregon,

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Speaker 2: where apparently there was some trouble over the weekend, Seattle, Washington.

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Speaker 2: These are all states that one have democratic mayors and

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Speaker 2: It would allow the administration to function, I guess, with

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Speaker 2: which could establish a perimeter and allow ICE and the

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Speaker 2: as they go after cordon criminals. Not people who were

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Speaker 2: the secondary impact of some of the more hardened criminals

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Speaker 2: if the President made that distinction and said, look for

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Speaker 2: us to go into a city like Minneapolis, to go

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Speaker 2: into a state like Minnesota, which is governed by a

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Speaker 2: And as up cited the US versus Arizona Supreme Court

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Speaker 2: In my opinion, if you, as I read US versus Arizona,

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Speaker 2: to use one place that he has been successful, irrespective

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Speaker 2: of the fact that it is a democratic community, Washington,

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Speaker 2: if there are some bad folks living in other states,

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Speaker 2: if if that would diffuse. I don't think you'd see

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Speaker 2: that's something that he now might actually be considering. Six one, seven, two, five, four,

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Speaker 2: you think? Coming back on night Side? It's Nightside with

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Speaker 2: Dan Ray Boston's news radio. So I like to try

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Speaker 2: to think ahead, and that's what I'm doing here. Donald

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Speaker 2: strategy which would diffuse the video because obviously politically the

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Speaker 2: not benefited them and from a political point, or would

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Speaker 2: he be accused of I mean, how could he be

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Speaker 2: accused then of saying, well, you're not paying attention to

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Speaker 2: all of America. He's gonna be able to say, well,

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Speaker 2: not all of America wants my help. Let's see. Let

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Speaker 2: me go to Johnny in Boston. See what John says.

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Speaker 2: Hey John, Johnny, you will next your first up on nightside.

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Speaker 4: Go right ahead, sir Good, mister Ray.

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Speaker 1: Thanks.

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Speaker 2: Do we just lose you there, Johnny? I hope not.

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Speaker 2: Why don't you stick with Johnny and see if you

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Speaker 2: Johnny might have been a little nervous. I don't know.

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Speaker 2: Let me go to Laurie and Melrose. Laurie, you're next

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Speaker 2: on nightside.

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Speaker 1: Welcome right.

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Speaker 2: But if if those ice agents were listening to us tonight,

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Speaker 2: Who are you accusing of not seeing all those things?

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Speaker 2: Well, the ice officers, well, let me let me be

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Speaker 2: They sent ice officers into Minneapolis, UH, knowing that the

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Speaker 2: You're familiar with that, I assume, right.

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Speaker 2: The mayor of Minneapolis said we don't want As matter

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Speaker 2: I'm just trying to explain to you that don't blame

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Speaker 5: They could not how many police officers are there?

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Speaker 1: How many know that fact?

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Speaker 2: Three no, no, no, no, no, there is some.

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Speaker 2: And I use the word hecked.

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Speaker 5: Right, So they should be many people.

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Speaker 2: You're disagreeing with me or agreeing with me, is what

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Speaker 5: You make your point, Laurie, you have made your points.

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Speaker 2: If they're not, I've heard them, Laurie, Laurie. Yeah, they're

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Speaker 2: And I'm suggesting that maybe the best tactic to be

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Speaker 2: We'll be back side. I hope you understand where I'm

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Speaker 2: All right, let's go back to Johnny and Boston. Welcome. Hello,

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Speaker 1: Hello, Sai, thank you for the Thank you for the opportunity.

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Speaker 2: You're You're welcome. He go right ahead. What's your what's

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Speaker 1: So I agree with you, sir, and uh to the

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Speaker 1: Those Ice officers are out there doing a very tough job.

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Speaker 1: And if people want to, uh make comments on their

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think they would put in a in a

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Speaker 2: and all of that. I mean, I just.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but that's what lower view of it is. And

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Speaker 1: That's very unfortunate, and that's very unfortunate.

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Speaker 4: Well, I think there were a lot of unfortunate.

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Speaker 2: Who buy into what they see and then you had

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Speaker 1: But sir, I appreciate that perspective, and I understand where

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Speaker 2: I understand what you're asking for. But but do you

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Speaker 2: Right? But but do you think that Governor Walls or

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Speaker 1: And then for the result of that, Mayor Walls, Governor

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Speaker 2: Due respect, I don't think that Mayor Walls, or rather

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Speaker 1: I have the opportunity I want to say, God bless

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Speaker 2: A lot of Democrats last time, a lot of Democratic

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Speaker 2: house stores. So this situation is not precisely analogous, but

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Speaker 2: it's it's immigration is an area that is federal authority

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Speaker 2: must prevail. In my opinion, Johnny, this is your first time.

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Speaker 2: All this is your first time. No sir, no sir,

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Speaker 2: do me a favor, call more often. I appreciate your time, Thank.

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Speaker 1: You, and I appreciate the opportunity. Good night, sir, any night.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, Johnny, appreciate it. Let me go to Bob

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Speaker 2: and Rhode Island. Bob, Let's see if we can. How

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Speaker 2: are you strong? Start?

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Speaker 4: I disagree, I disagree with what Why are you such

447
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Speaker 4: a Trump supporter? This guy I hope is going to

448
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Speaker 4: get impeached.

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Speaker 2: I know you, I know you want it to be impeached.

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Speaker 2: The problem I wanted.

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Speaker 4: To and I want that guy to put up private

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Speaker 4: life and face his problems. With Epstein.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we're not talking about Epstein files tonight.

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Speaker 4: Wait, I know what we're talking about on these ice agents.

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Speaker 4: Do they volunteer to do this job? I don't feel

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Speaker 4: sorry for them at all.

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Speaker 2: I see, Well, you're probably not a.

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Speaker 4: Bit who did so many.

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Speaker 2: Why don't you give him the plank? Good night, Bob.

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Speaker 2: We'll be back on nightside right after this. You're on

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Speaker 2: night side with.

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Speaker 3: News radio.

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Speaker 2: Back to the phones. Who go? Let me go to

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Speaker 2: Patrick down in DC. Hey, Patrick, welcome? How are you sir?

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Speaker 6: I am all charge? Because right that's the right idea, man,

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Speaker 6: I am fully agree.

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Speaker 1: I like your idea.

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Speaker 6: I think politically that's the right thing to do. I'm

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Speaker 6: enthused about it.

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Speaker 1: It's about it.

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Speaker 6: In fact, he would be great if they actually did

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Speaker 6: that morning. You know what I mean?

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Speaker 2: Well, we'll see. I mean, I don't know. I mean

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Speaker 2: I think he's laying a foundation here. I mean, what's

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Speaker 2: he want to do? Continue to send them? You know,

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Speaker 2: once the the the activity in Minnesota blew up, that

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Speaker 2: group is if he decides to go into Illinois tomorrow.

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Speaker 2: Minnesota is a neighbor state, you know, I think that

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Speaker 2: everybody's going to stay in Minnesota. No, I think. I

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Speaker 2: don't know. I'm just wondering. I'm actually wondering out loud

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Speaker 2: of this is what he's thinking. I like to be

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Speaker 2: ahead of the curve. As you know, Patrick, you are

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Speaker 2: a guy who likes to be ahead of the curve

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Speaker 2: as well. You talk about civil defense a lot, and

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Speaker 2: and I talk about you know what, politics, what what

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Speaker 2: the politicians might do. I think that would be a

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Speaker 2: a strategy that now he'd be criticized to say, well,

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Speaker 2: wait a second, how come you're only going into Republican states.

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Speaker 2: Then he might say, well, the Democrats don't want me,

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Speaker 2: and I'm trying to be a utifying president. I don't

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Speaker 2: want to see people hurt. I think there would be

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Speaker 2: a lot of people who would welcome that.

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Speaker 7: I think that is a reasonable approach to get the

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Speaker 7: other states, for the other cities or the democratic cities,

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Speaker 7: to say, hey, what about us?

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Speaker 6: What about us?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 6: I think that is a much better approach. Oh, I

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Speaker 6: would really like to see that happen. That would be

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Speaker 6: really great. I'm with you on that, but I think

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Speaker 6: you hit it on the head.

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Speaker 2: I read a story today that for the first time,

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Speaker 2: and I don't know how many years, twenty twenty five years.

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Speaker 2: In the first three weeks of January, there have been

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Speaker 2: no homicides in Washington DC. Are you aware of that?

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Speaker 6: I don't know, because kank Christmas. I mean they as

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Speaker 6: the holidays came, you know, I stay out of there,

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Speaker 6: and I've been on the phone, and today I've been

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Speaker 6: on the phone into the city. There's the problem of

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Speaker 6: you have you know, a four lane road and which

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Speaker 6: you have is one and a half lanes?

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Speaker 2: Right? No, I had it, no, but I just didn't

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Speaker 2: know if that has been publicized in Washington. I heard

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Speaker 2: that reported today. I don't know. I know that in

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Speaker 2: Boston we have the last few years done pretty well

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Speaker 2: in terms of cutting down homicides. Our homicide numbers have

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Speaker 2: been like in the low thirties, although last year was

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Speaker 2: a bit of a bump upwards. I don't know how

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Speaker 2: many homicides happen in Washington d C. I know that

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Speaker 2: Chicago leads the league and homicide. Sadly, it seems that

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Speaker 2: there's crime.

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Speaker 6: Crime is crime, and when all it comes and it

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Speaker 6: gets cold and it gets darker earlier, you may not

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Speaker 6: see it. It may not get reported. That's what I'm

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Speaker 6: going to say.

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Speaker 2: Got you Okay, well see if you can check that

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Speaker 2: out for I'd be interested.

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Speaker 6: I'm gonna go in there and I'm gonna find out.

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Speaker 6: But remember they also can just really quickly go over

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Speaker 6: to the DC line and do it in Prince George's county.

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Speaker 2: That's true, that's true. Washington is not a big Washington

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Speaker 2: is like Boston, a relatively small city geographically. Patrick, thank

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Speaker 2: you for the support. As always, we will talk again,

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Speaker 2: thank you, sir, Yes, thank you very much. So we

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Speaker 2: go to Mark in Austin. Mark next on nightside. Welcome Mark, right,

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Speaker 2: Mick you're there dry, Yes, Mick, I'm sorry, I thought

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Speaker 2: it said Mark. I misread it. Mike, go red ahead.

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Speaker 8: I'm sorry you Dan, I just caught you about the

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Speaker 8: last half hours. So what you're saying are well trained.

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Speaker 8: I don't believe these guys are well trained, not from

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Speaker 8: what I see on TV. I mean, the guy is

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Speaker 8: standing in front of her. Uh, at least don't do that.

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Speaker 8: And the way they ambush, how come they can't be

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Speaker 8: more like the US Marshals When they go after fugitives,

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Speaker 8: they commit at night, they target someone, they find them

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Speaker 8: a little reconnaissance and they go and get them.

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Speaker 2: Well, they commit at night. They did a red in Chicago,

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Speaker 2: you might remember, with helicopters at night, and Chicago was

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Speaker 2: very upset with them working under the cover of darkness

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Speaker 2: that apparent. I'm not sure how effective a rate it was.

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Speaker 2: It's a it's a difficult it's a difficult job. Generally,

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Speaker 2: the US marshalls come in, uh, and they they come in,

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Speaker 2: they don't come in with high visibility. They they come

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Speaker 2: in with very effectively, and they grab somebody and and

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Speaker 2: they're and they're out.

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Speaker 8: It seems like these people parading into town and the

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Speaker 8: people are waiting for them. But also, you know, you

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Speaker 8: mentioned they get the worst of the worst. But here

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Speaker 8: in Boston where I'm from. But uh, you know, they

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Speaker 8: get the girl from Toughs or a high school kid

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Speaker 8: out in Hudson grabbing those people.

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Speaker 2: Believe me, they've gotten well, well, let me just say this.

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Speaker 2: If you've listened to my show, I was critical of them, uh,

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Speaker 2: you know, taking the high school kid, and I think

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Speaker 2: it was Milford, if I'm not mistaken. Not somewhere ye, Milford,

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Speaker 2: and I was criticizing. I criticized them just the optics

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Speaker 2: of the woman from Toughs, which shows to me that

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Speaker 2: they weren't thinking through. However, However, I have seen certainly

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Speaker 2: reports in the Boston Herald, amongst others, that seems to

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Speaker 2: publicize the information more than the Globe does that they

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Speaker 2: are arresting some people who were here and either convicted

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Speaker 2: of or charged with a much more you know, serious car.

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Speaker 2: I mean, the woman from from Toughs University was a

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Speaker 2: co signer of an editorial in some time of student newspaper,

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Speaker 2: and you get no, well, you get no argument from

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Speaker 2: me on that. The idea of the kid from Milford,

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Speaker 2: they apparently were looking for his father, and they got him,

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Speaker 2: as I understand.

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Speaker 8: For a month.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, he I think ended up. I think though

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Speaker 2: the woman from Tufts ended up in Louisiana, the kid

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Speaker 2: from Milford ended up at the Burlington location. And I

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Speaker 2: believe that there were at least two Congressmen, Moulton and

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Speaker 2: Auchincloss went up and visited him. I don't think he

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Speaker 2: was moved out of state, that particularly on.

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Speaker 8: A concrete floor for a couple of weeks.

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Speaker 2: And yeah, none of it, none of it was helpful

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Speaker 2: to them, that's for sure. It was totally counterproductive. I mean,

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Speaker 2: I don't know how to describe it. It's almost as

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Speaker 2: if they wanted to. And by the way, I want

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Speaker 2: to see full reporting. I want to see and it's

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Speaker 2: up to the administration to really least a list of

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Speaker 2: names who have been taken into custody, how many people

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Speaker 2: have left the country voluntarily. Let's see the results. We're

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Speaker 2: not seeing. We're not seeing results, which leads to the

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Speaker 2: impression that the only people who are being deported are

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Speaker 2: are attempted to be deported a high school students and

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Speaker 2: graduate students that are at like.

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Speaker 8: Tufts, Right, Well, that's what I hear locally. If the

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Speaker 8: president was smart, which I don't think he is, he'd

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Speaker 8: get the worst. People will be lining up in the streets.

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Speaker 8: I wanted town A two years ago, charity these guys

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Speaker 8: on rapists and drug dale.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, yeah, absolutely, I'm not saying that everybody. I think,

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Speaker 2: no matter what Trump did, there's a lot of people

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Speaker 2: out there who just don't like Trump and that's never

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Speaker 2: going to change. That's never going to change. Those decisions

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Speaker 2: and those thoughts. Like talking to a Yankees fan about

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Speaker 2: rooting for the Red Sox, they'll root for the National

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Speaker 2: League team against the Red Sox because they hate the

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Speaker 2: Red SOX more than than they like the nationally nastley

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Speaker 2: you know. So anyway, look, thank you Mick. I'm sorry

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Speaker 2: to have misidentified you early on. I'm misreaded and like

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Speaker 2: nice to have you back on the show.

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Speaker 8: I like to to do a quick shout out to

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Speaker 8: Greg and Dorchester. I know he listens all the time,

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Speaker 8: so that's okay, Greg.

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Speaker 2: That's okay with me. A little shot out here or

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Speaker 2: there never hurts. Thanks Mick, talk to you soon. Will

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Speaker 2: we get back. We'll get more phone calls at six

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Speaker 2: one seven and six one seven. I have my friend

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Speaker 2: Harvey Silverglade on hold, and I also have Greg and

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Speaker 2: Ontario on hold, and we got some room for you.

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Speaker 2: Would this be a strategy that the Trump administration would

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Speaker 2: be smart to employ, uh and to say to the

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Speaker 2: Democratic mayors and Democratic governors, you don't want us, you

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Speaker 2: can handle whatever your city the way you want. We're

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Speaker 2: gonna go where we are welcomed. That's my thought. Has

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Speaker 2: he laid the foundation to that strategy? Back on my

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Speaker 2: side after this