1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,520 Speaker 1: Human Twin City Stews Talk eleven thirty IM one O 2 00:00:03,600 --> 00:00:04,560 Speaker 1: three point five. 3 00:00:06,960 --> 00:00:09,320 Speaker 2: John Justice on Twin Cities News Talk. 4 00:00:11,440 --> 00:00:16,280 Speaker 1: Our three. Thanks for hanging out on the show this morning. 5 00:00:19,440 --> 00:00:22,759 Speaker 1: Very pleased to welcome to Twin Cities News Talk from 6 00:00:22,800 --> 00:00:25,960 Speaker 1: the Department of Health and Human Services, a General Counsel 7 00:00:26,079 --> 00:00:28,479 Speaker 1: Mike Stewart. Good morning, sir, Thank you so much for 8 00:00:28,520 --> 00:00:29,320 Speaker 1: coming on this morning. 9 00:00:30,160 --> 00:00:32,440 Speaker 3: Hey, good morning, Thanks for having me. John. 10 00:00:32,560 --> 00:00:35,120 Speaker 1: For those that may be sort of unfamiliar with you 11 00:00:35,159 --> 00:00:39,479 Speaker 1: and your role within HHS, can you give us the, uh, 12 00:00:39,920 --> 00:00:42,000 Speaker 1: the brief version of what it is that you do 13 00:00:42,080 --> 00:00:43,880 Speaker 1: within the Health and Human Services. 14 00:00:44,479 --> 00:00:47,240 Speaker 3: Well, I'll say there's been a big realignment in terms 15 00:00:47,280 --> 00:00:49,240 Speaker 3: of what we do and hopefully you can hear me. Okay, 16 00:00:49,240 --> 00:00:51,839 Speaker 3: if I can pick up the phone. But I'm a 17 00:00:52,560 --> 00:00:55,200 Speaker 3: I'm a former United States attorney, so the first one 18 00:00:55,280 --> 00:00:58,320 Speaker 3: ever for those folks who love law enforcement, that that 19 00:00:58,720 --> 00:01:01,560 Speaker 3: was my background and I was the US attorney, first 20 00:01:01,560 --> 00:01:05,840 Speaker 3: one ever to be appointed and asked to lead the 21 00:01:06,600 --> 00:01:11,040 Speaker 3: Office of General Counsel for HHS, and my background, largest 22 00:01:11,080 --> 00:01:14,840 Speaker 3: medicaid fraud prosecution in the history of Westst Virginia, prosecuted 23 00:01:14,880 --> 00:01:18,880 Speaker 3: over half the state Supreme Court and it was just prescient. 24 00:01:18,959 --> 00:01:23,440 Speaker 3: It was credit to President Trump and Secretary Kennedy for 25 00:01:23,560 --> 00:01:25,480 Speaker 3: being able to see that fraud was going to be 26 00:01:25,480 --> 00:01:28,560 Speaker 3: a serious problem during the course of this next four years, 27 00:01:29,240 --> 00:01:31,959 Speaker 3: and we're lined up to focus on it. There's never 28 00:01:32,120 --> 00:01:36,680 Speaker 3: been a greater focus on an aggressive anti fraud campaign 29 00:01:36,720 --> 00:01:40,280 Speaker 3: in the agency's history. And in fact, I just brought 30 00:01:40,319 --> 00:01:43,760 Speaker 3: in another former US attorney, Scott Brady from the Western 31 00:01:43,800 --> 00:01:46,960 Speaker 3: District of Pennsylvania. If you remember the terrible Tree of 32 00:01:47,000 --> 00:01:50,480 Speaker 3: Life shooting that happened in Pittsburgh at the synagogue, he 33 00:01:50,520 --> 00:01:53,720 Speaker 3: was the US attorney there at that time. So he's 34 00:01:53,760 --> 00:01:56,360 Speaker 3: not the last one. You're going to hear announcements over 35 00:01:56,400 --> 00:01:58,920 Speaker 3: the next few weeks, the next few months, as we 36 00:01:59,040 --> 00:02:02,760 Speaker 3: bring more US attorneys under this effort to try to 37 00:02:02,800 --> 00:02:06,360 Speaker 3: get into states like Minnesota, where this I don't want 38 00:02:06,360 --> 00:02:08,400 Speaker 3: to point out to your listeners, this didn't happen overnight. 39 00:02:08,480 --> 00:02:12,480 Speaker 3: What's happening in Minnesota didn't happen yesterday, right. It happened 40 00:02:12,560 --> 00:02:17,440 Speaker 3: under Keith Ellison and Governor Waltz And they've been sitting 41 00:02:17,480 --> 00:02:21,880 Speaker 3: there since twenty nineteen, and the documents are clear this 42 00:02:22,080 --> 00:02:26,880 Speaker 3: was around as early as twenty nineteen and these folks 43 00:02:26,919 --> 00:02:27,720 Speaker 3: did nothing. 44 00:02:28,760 --> 00:02:29,760 Speaker 2: So let me start here. 45 00:02:29,800 --> 00:02:32,239 Speaker 1: There's a piece out of Alpha News this morning, and 46 00:02:32,280 --> 00:02:34,600 Speaker 1: again we're talking with the General Counselor for the Department 47 00:02:34,600 --> 00:02:37,799 Speaker 1: of Health and Human Services, Mike Stewart, and they raised 48 00:02:37,800 --> 00:02:42,720 Speaker 1: the question of these mass resignations within the US Attorney's Office. 49 00:02:43,040 --> 00:02:46,519 Speaker 1: They right, The US Attorney's Office was recently decimated after 50 00:02:46,639 --> 00:02:50,920 Speaker 1: the office's top fraud prosecutor resigned in January, along with 51 00:02:50,960 --> 00:02:54,720 Speaker 1: other federal prosecutors. The Minnesota Star Tribune has reported that 52 00:02:54,800 --> 00:02:58,760 Speaker 1: even more federal prosecutors have resigned. They raised the question, Mike, 53 00:02:59,080 --> 00:03:03,800 Speaker 1: of with Joe Thompson resigning and the other resignations that 54 00:03:03,840 --> 00:03:08,360 Speaker 1: we've seen, the question about the government's ability to prosecute 55 00:03:08,400 --> 00:03:11,839 Speaker 1: fraud in Minnesota. Can you fill in the gaps here 56 00:03:11,960 --> 00:03:14,959 Speaker 1: about these federal investigations into our fraud and whether or 57 00:03:15,000 --> 00:03:18,720 Speaker 1: not there is a legitimate concern with these resignations within 58 00:03:18,800 --> 00:03:22,680 Speaker 1: this department that the fraud won't be investigated. 59 00:03:22,680 --> 00:03:23,560 Speaker 2: What are your thoughts on this? 60 00:03:24,800 --> 00:03:27,519 Speaker 3: So here's what I'm I can tell you very clearly 61 00:03:27,600 --> 00:03:30,800 Speaker 3: on this. The day after those resignations, I was at 62 00:03:30,800 --> 00:03:35,000 Speaker 3: the US Attorney's Office in Minneapolis meeting with the US 63 00:03:35,080 --> 00:03:38,160 Speaker 3: Attorney This won't slow us down at all. I'm sure 64 00:03:38,160 --> 00:03:40,480 Speaker 3: those people were fine, But if they don't have the 65 00:03:40,560 --> 00:03:44,880 Speaker 3: stomach to go after corruption at the highest levels in 66 00:03:44,920 --> 00:03:48,720 Speaker 3: Minneapolis and throughout the state of Minnesota, folks like the 67 00:03:48,840 --> 00:03:52,280 Speaker 3: General Council of Akhs, I do have the stomach for it, 68 00:03:52,320 --> 00:03:54,800 Speaker 3: and I've put lots of people behind bars for corruption 69 00:03:54,920 --> 00:03:58,720 Speaker 3: of this nature. And so I've worked grand jury's before, 70 00:03:58,800 --> 00:04:02,800 Speaker 3: I've worked special grand injuries before. I'm meeting later today 71 00:04:02,800 --> 00:04:05,640 Speaker 3: with the new Assistant Attorney General for fraud for the 72 00:04:05,720 --> 00:04:09,720 Speaker 3: Department of Justice. I'm going to be a regular visitor 73 00:04:09,880 --> 00:04:12,840 Speaker 3: in Minneapolis. If that gives you any indication of what's coming. 74 00:04:13,480 --> 00:04:16,360 Speaker 3: And I'll say this that I have lots of questions. 75 00:04:16,880 --> 00:04:20,680 Speaker 3: The documents are clear, going back to twenty nineteen. It's 76 00:04:20,680 --> 00:04:25,520 Speaker 3: feeding the future, feeding our future, and the documents between KEITHA, 77 00:04:25,720 --> 00:04:28,800 Speaker 3: the meetings between the Attorney General who's supposed to be 78 00:04:29,040 --> 00:04:32,080 Speaker 3: let me remind you and your listeners, he's supposed to 79 00:04:32,120 --> 00:04:34,760 Speaker 3: be the guy that's the tip of the spear with 80 00:04:34,960 --> 00:04:39,120 Speaker 3: fraud in Minneapolis and Minnesota. He's the guy who's supposed 81 00:04:39,160 --> 00:04:43,840 Speaker 3: to prosecute these things. And instead of meeting with leaders 82 00:04:43,920 --> 00:04:48,559 Speaker 3: who are fraudsters and taking contributions from fraudsters. He should 83 00:04:48,560 --> 00:04:51,520 Speaker 3: have been running that office better. And we've been digging 84 00:04:51,839 --> 00:04:54,120 Speaker 3: and digging. We're going to continue to dig on this 85 00:04:54,160 --> 00:04:56,599 Speaker 3: fraud issue that I have questions like, how about the 86 00:04:56,600 --> 00:05:00,520 Speaker 3: Office of Inspector General back in twenty nineteen led by 87 00:05:00,520 --> 00:05:03,560 Speaker 3: this lady named Carolyn Ham, how about twenty twenty when 88 00:05:03,560 --> 00:05:06,680 Speaker 3: this guy named Bob Jacobson took it over. We have 89 00:05:06,800 --> 00:05:09,120 Speaker 3: lots of questions. We're going to dig in through our 90 00:05:09,200 --> 00:05:13,159 Speaker 3: investigative authority and we're going to hold folks accountable for 91 00:05:13,200 --> 00:05:16,320 Speaker 3: what's happened. It's a shn Minnesota nice is being taken 92 00:05:16,360 --> 00:05:20,360 Speaker 3: advantage of by fraudsters. Have been ripping off the people 93 00:05:20,360 --> 00:05:26,200 Speaker 3: in Minneapolis and Minnesota for far too long. We let's 94 00:05:26,200 --> 00:05:29,560 Speaker 3: put it this way, Judgment day is coming, and I 95 00:05:29,600 --> 00:05:31,400 Speaker 3: think there needs to be a big shake up here. 96 00:05:31,480 --> 00:05:34,000 Speaker 3: A big shake up is coming, and I think the 97 00:05:34,040 --> 00:05:36,720 Speaker 3: people in Minnesota, they're far too smart to put up 98 00:05:36,760 --> 00:05:36,920 Speaker 3: with this. 99 00:05:37,839 --> 00:05:40,920 Speaker 1: We keep saying, because you know, and it's in farm speculation. 100 00:05:41,440 --> 00:05:43,719 Speaker 1: And again talking with a Department of Health and Human 101 00:05:43,760 --> 00:05:46,719 Speaker 1: Services General Counsel Mike Stewart, and thank you so much 102 00:05:46,720 --> 00:05:47,960 Speaker 1: for the time this morning. 103 00:05:48,000 --> 00:05:49,880 Speaker 2: But this is just tipp of the iceberg. 104 00:05:50,080 --> 00:05:52,120 Speaker 1: You know, the form speculation has been telling us that 105 00:05:52,160 --> 00:05:54,480 Speaker 1: we've seen these numbers grow in terms of the amount 106 00:05:54,560 --> 00:05:57,640 Speaker 1: of money that may have been fraudulent here through these 107 00:05:57,640 --> 00:06:01,520 Speaker 1: different social service programs. From what you've seen so far, 108 00:06:01,960 --> 00:06:03,760 Speaker 1: does that ring true to you as well? With what 109 00:06:03,800 --> 00:06:07,520 Speaker 1: you've been able to investigate that what has been exposed 110 00:06:07,560 --> 00:06:10,240 Speaker 1: really is just the tip of the iceberg of what 111 00:06:10,320 --> 00:06:11,760 Speaker 1: will eventually be revealed. 112 00:06:11,880 --> 00:06:13,240 Speaker 2: And is there a timeframe on that? 113 00:06:13,279 --> 00:06:15,800 Speaker 1: Because people want accountability is probably the biggest thing that 114 00:06:15,839 --> 00:06:18,359 Speaker 1: I hear from the audience. When are people going to 115 00:06:18,360 --> 00:06:22,039 Speaker 1: be held accountable? So timeframes and what is it that 116 00:06:22,120 --> 00:06:23,920 Speaker 1: you've seen and how big is this problem? 117 00:06:25,080 --> 00:06:26,800 Speaker 3: So I'm one of those books have great confidence in 118 00:06:26,839 --> 00:06:30,599 Speaker 3: the Department Justice. I did good things there. We broke records, 119 00:06:31,360 --> 00:06:34,160 Speaker 3: But using the grand jury to be able to investigate 120 00:06:34,200 --> 00:06:35,880 Speaker 3: forrod takes a little bit of time. It's not going 121 00:06:35,960 --> 00:06:39,039 Speaker 3: to take forever. It would help a lot more if 122 00:06:39,320 --> 00:06:43,480 Speaker 3: the Attorney General and the governor were cooperative, if they 123 00:06:43,480 --> 00:06:46,560 Speaker 3: were more interested in fighting fraud than they are fighting 124 00:06:46,600 --> 00:06:52,279 Speaker 3: federal assistance. And this is confounding to me that the 125 00:06:52,400 --> 00:06:56,479 Speaker 3: Chief law enforcement officer in the state of Minnesota is 126 00:06:56,640 --> 00:06:58,800 Speaker 3: less interested in help to get to the root of 127 00:06:58,839 --> 00:07:02,440 Speaker 3: fraud to protect taxpayers in Minnesota than he is in 128 00:07:02,560 --> 00:07:07,800 Speaker 3: protecting bad actors, fraudsters, schemers, and those folks have been 129 00:07:07,880 --> 00:07:10,600 Speaker 3: ripping us off for a long time. This is totally 130 00:07:10,640 --> 00:07:13,960 Speaker 3: confounding to me. There ought to be protesters outside his 131 00:07:14,080 --> 00:07:18,040 Speaker 3: office every day. He ought to be thinking about resigning 132 00:07:18,200 --> 00:07:21,160 Speaker 3: as Attorney General in Minnesota so that there can be 133 00:07:21,280 --> 00:07:24,600 Speaker 3: a true accounting of everything that's happened before. 134 00:07:24,280 --> 00:07:27,520 Speaker 1: We let you go again with AHHS on General Counsel 135 00:07:27,640 --> 00:07:31,000 Speaker 1: Mike Stewart at the end of the year, I had 136 00:07:31,120 --> 00:07:35,920 Speaker 1: speculated that because of the revelations of the amount of 137 00:07:35,960 --> 00:07:38,680 Speaker 1: fraud here in Minnesota, that what we would end up 138 00:07:38,680 --> 00:07:43,640 Speaker 1: seeing is investigations across the country revealing that it's not 139 00:07:43,680 --> 00:07:46,240 Speaker 1: an isolated issue to Minnesota, that this is more of 140 00:07:46,280 --> 00:07:50,800 Speaker 1: a systemic issue in these Democrat led states of this 141 00:07:50,920 --> 00:07:54,000 Speaker 1: type of fraud taking place. From what I've seen so 142 00:07:54,080 --> 00:07:55,960 Speaker 1: far just in the course of the past month, as 143 00:07:55,960 --> 00:07:58,400 Speaker 1: we head into month to two of twenty twenty six, 144 00:07:58,720 --> 00:08:02,239 Speaker 1: you're seeing these stories popping up around around the country. 145 00:08:02,840 --> 00:08:04,720 Speaker 1: Is this ringing true for you? And what you guys 146 00:08:04,720 --> 00:08:06,560 Speaker 1: have seen that now we are seeing more of a 147 00:08:06,600 --> 00:08:10,120 Speaker 1: systemic level of fraud across the country, much like what 148 00:08:10,160 --> 00:08:12,160 Speaker 1: we've been dealing with here in Minnesota. 149 00:08:12,840 --> 00:08:15,880 Speaker 3: So there's no doubt there was large amounts of fraud 150 00:08:15,920 --> 00:08:18,200 Speaker 3: throughout the system, and we're working to get to the 151 00:08:18,200 --> 00:08:20,640 Speaker 3: bottom of that, and we have a growing team here 152 00:08:20,720 --> 00:08:24,640 Speaker 3: focused on and our partnership of the Department of Justice 153 00:08:24,680 --> 00:08:27,880 Speaker 3: is clear. You'll see us in Minnesota, but to the 154 00:08:28,000 --> 00:08:31,800 Speaker 3: degree the grossness of what was happening in Minnesota, like 155 00:08:31,880 --> 00:08:34,640 Speaker 3: most other places at least hid the fraud a little bit. 156 00:08:35,520 --> 00:08:38,400 Speaker 3: Minnesota is the first place and only place we've seen 157 00:08:38,480 --> 00:08:43,680 Speaker 3: where public officials, elected officials elected to represent taxpayers and 158 00:08:43,800 --> 00:08:47,480 Speaker 3: citizens were so open and brazen about the fraud that 159 00:08:47,600 --> 00:08:51,600 Speaker 3: was happening. My goodness. Twenty nineteen, I point this out again. 160 00:08:52,120 --> 00:08:56,000 Speaker 3: Twenty nineteen, the revelations of this became clear. Why was 161 00:08:56,080 --> 00:08:59,240 Speaker 3: there no action from twenty nineteen through the time that 162 00:08:59,800 --> 00:09:03,280 Speaker 3: we brought folks to Minnesota to start digging into this fraud. 163 00:09:03,320 --> 00:09:06,680 Speaker 3: Why did it take this long? These folks knew what 164 00:09:06,800 --> 00:09:09,520 Speaker 3: was happening. I have no doubt about it. And in 165 00:09:09,600 --> 00:09:12,520 Speaker 3: terms of the country, sure, there's fraud everywhere in terms 166 00:09:12,520 --> 00:09:17,280 Speaker 3: of these programs. But the grossness, the egregiousness, the aiding 167 00:09:17,360 --> 00:09:19,760 Speaker 3: and a betting of this fraud that was conducted by 168 00:09:19,800 --> 00:09:23,920 Speaker 3: public officials elected in Minnesota. It's a tragedy that will 169 00:09:23,960 --> 00:09:26,080 Speaker 3: be written about for many decades to come. 170 00:09:26,679 --> 00:09:29,440 Speaker 1: Department of Health and Human Services General Counsel Mike Stewart, 171 00:09:29,640 --> 00:09:32,600 Speaker 1: thank you for the time this morning. If you make 172 00:09:32,640 --> 00:09:35,920 Speaker 1: the visit back to Minneapolis anytime soon, you are welcome 173 00:09:36,000 --> 00:09:38,120 Speaker 1: to come join me in studio. But it was fantastic 174 00:09:38,480 --> 00:09:40,800 Speaker 1: to speak with you this morning. I very much appreciate it. 175 00:09:41,640 --> 00:09:43,920 Speaker 3: Great, thank you very much for having me and I'll 176 00:09:43,960 --> 00:09:46,280 Speaker 3: be back very very soon and many times. 177 00:09:46,360 --> 00:09:47,839 Speaker 2: Awesome. Well, I love to have you in and thank 178 00:09:47,880 --> 00:09:49,079 Speaker 2: you so much for the time again today. 179 00:09:50,160 --> 00:09:51,200 Speaker 3: Thank you all right. 180 00:09:51,240 --> 00:09:54,240 Speaker 1: Coming up, got a couple of comments relating to the caucus. 181 00:09:54,240 --> 00:09:56,680 Speaker 1: The prest And Caucus is happening this evening a little 182 00:09:56,679 --> 00:09:58,800 Speaker 1: further information that it might help you out if you're 183 00:09:58,840 --> 00:10:02,560 Speaker 1: planning ongoing a lot of your talkbacks from the iHeartRadio 184 00:10:02,600 --> 00:10:05,520 Speaker 1: app brought to you by Lyndahl Reealty Regarding the anti 185 00:10:05,640 --> 00:10:09,560 Speaker 1: ice agitators, the insurrection is setting up these blockades on 186 00:10:09,600 --> 00:10:14,800 Speaker 1: Minneapolis streets and Keith Elson's speaking of which interesting commentary 187 00:10:15,640 --> 00:10:18,160 Speaker 1: regarding ice what's been taking place. 188 00:10:19,280 --> 00:10:21,360 Speaker 2: I'll share that audio with you. 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I have 202 00:10:56,559 --> 00:11:00,280 Speaker 1: a handful of comments that have come into the iHeartRadio app. 203 00:11:00,320 --> 00:11:02,000 Speaker 1: Make sure you update the app if you haven't done 204 00:11:02,000 --> 00:11:02,640 Speaker 1: that recently. 205 00:11:04,200 --> 00:11:06,360 Speaker 2: I updated all the time. That's just because I can't. 206 00:11:06,160 --> 00:11:09,880 Speaker 1: Stand notifications on my apps on my phone, so I 207 00:11:09,920 --> 00:11:11,640 Speaker 1: like to get rid of those as soon as possible. 208 00:11:11,640 --> 00:11:14,199 Speaker 1: But they're always making improvements to the app. And if 209 00:11:14,200 --> 00:11:17,640 Speaker 1: you haven't taken advantage on iHeartRadio of the preset function, 210 00:11:18,280 --> 00:11:21,160 Speaker 1: do that make KATLK Twin City's News Talk number one. 211 00:11:21,360 --> 00:11:23,320 Speaker 1: A few of your comments talkbacks brought to you by 212 00:11:23,400 --> 00:11:25,679 Speaker 1: Lyndahl Realty about this evening's events. 213 00:11:26,200 --> 00:11:26,760 Speaker 2: Hey, John. 214 00:11:26,960 --> 00:11:30,800 Speaker 5: One thing that the caucuses also provide is a good 215 00:11:30,920 --> 00:11:34,360 Speaker 5: gauge for party officials about the turnout level and the 216 00:11:34,400 --> 00:11:37,480 Speaker 5: excitement level there is so they can figure out how 217 00:11:37,559 --> 00:11:40,920 Speaker 5: much spending they need to do regarding marketing and that 218 00:11:41,000 --> 00:11:41,439 Speaker 5: kind of thing. 219 00:11:41,480 --> 00:11:45,000 Speaker 2: So it's also a good gauge of that when people 220 00:11:45,000 --> 00:11:46,719 Speaker 2: talk about what can I do? What can I do? 221 00:11:47,720 --> 00:11:51,480 Speaker 1: We've had so many discussions about counter protests to the 222 00:11:51,920 --> 00:11:55,400 Speaker 1: ridiculous anti ice insurgency taking place. 223 00:11:56,360 --> 00:11:57,360 Speaker 2: This is what you can do. 224 00:11:57,760 --> 00:12:00,960 Speaker 1: This is where you can make a different if you 225 00:12:01,000 --> 00:12:05,800 Speaker 1: have time to begin the process of taking part in 226 00:12:05,880 --> 00:12:09,640 Speaker 1: a precinct to caucus. This is the opportunity to get 227 00:12:09,640 --> 00:12:13,960 Speaker 1: started in that to meet other individuals concerned about the 228 00:12:14,000 --> 00:12:17,120 Speaker 1: issues facing the state who want to see change. I 229 00:12:17,200 --> 00:12:21,320 Speaker 1: want to see Republicans take control. Meet candidates to golden 230 00:12:21,360 --> 00:12:24,559 Speaker 1: opportunity this evening to take that first step and actually 231 00:12:24,600 --> 00:12:28,720 Speaker 1: do something real. We'll get into this later on in 232 00:12:28,760 --> 00:12:36,200 Speaker 1: the hour. You've got socket wrench, He's a tool. Minnesota 233 00:12:36,240 --> 00:12:38,760 Speaker 1: House candidate Ryan Winkler, I'll share. 234 00:12:38,559 --> 00:12:39,320 Speaker 2: With you audio. 235 00:12:39,920 --> 00:12:45,400 Speaker 1: He's organizing resistance, resistance training aimed at actively opposing the 236 00:12:45,400 --> 00:12:48,880 Speaker 1: federal government. When I call them insurrectionists, That's what I'm 237 00:12:48,920 --> 00:12:49,680 Speaker 1: talking about. 238 00:12:50,720 --> 00:12:51,640 Speaker 2: But waste your time. 239 00:12:53,040 --> 00:12:56,240 Speaker 1: Waste your time going and training individuals how to push 240 00:12:56,280 --> 00:12:57,400 Speaker 1: back on our federal government. 241 00:12:57,440 --> 00:12:59,000 Speaker 2: I'd much rather have you doing that. 242 00:13:00,679 --> 00:13:04,800 Speaker 1: Then actually encouraging people to make phone calls to door 243 00:13:04,880 --> 00:13:10,560 Speaker 1: knock to help do that work that not everybody wants 244 00:13:10,600 --> 00:13:14,360 Speaker 1: to do. Relating to getting people elected, Good. 245 00:13:14,120 --> 00:13:17,320 Speaker 6: Morning, John, The caucus system is a real good place 246 00:13:17,360 --> 00:13:19,800 Speaker 6: to for an exchange of authentic ideas outside of the 247 00:13:19,840 --> 00:13:23,319 Speaker 6: media landscape. When I was a delicate all the way 248 00:13:23,360 --> 00:13:25,960 Speaker 6: to State, at one point, one of the major platform 249 00:13:25,960 --> 00:13:29,360 Speaker 6: pieces I took was actually removing from the platform a 250 00:13:29,440 --> 00:13:32,400 Speaker 6: requirement for the smoking age to be twenty one instead 251 00:13:32,400 --> 00:13:36,360 Speaker 6: of eighteen. The whole premise was like, that's pretty nanny state, 252 00:13:36,400 --> 00:13:38,440 Speaker 6: And if you can sign up to fight for your 253 00:13:38,440 --> 00:13:42,480 Speaker 6: country and die at eighteen, why would we not let 254 00:13:42,520 --> 00:13:44,880 Speaker 6: you buy smokes? 255 00:13:45,400 --> 00:13:48,520 Speaker 3: Why would constitutional observers be needed a caucus party to 256 00:13:48,520 --> 00:13:51,160 Speaker 3: look for ice agents if. 257 00:13:53,240 --> 00:13:55,920 Speaker 2: Illegals are not able to vote, Yeah. 258 00:13:56,440 --> 00:13:57,240 Speaker 3: Make it make sense. 259 00:13:57,280 --> 00:13:59,400 Speaker 2: It doesn't make any sense. What the Democrats are doing 260 00:13:59,520 --> 00:14:01,680 Speaker 2: right now in Minnesota doesn't make any sense. 261 00:14:03,160 --> 00:14:06,920 Speaker 1: A lot of comments have rolled in regarding these checkpoints. 262 00:14:06,960 --> 00:14:09,560 Speaker 1: We're going to get into this coming up in the 263 00:14:09,559 --> 00:14:12,000 Speaker 1: next segment to your talk back of the day on 264 00:14:12,120 --> 00:14:14,320 Speaker 1: the way as well. Let me clear out a couple 265 00:14:14,320 --> 00:14:16,360 Speaker 1: of audio clips that I've been sitting on this morning. 266 00:14:16,400 --> 00:14:20,880 Speaker 1: We just had the opportunity to talk with HHS General 267 00:14:20,920 --> 00:14:23,280 Speaker 1: Counsel Mike Stewart. Really enjoyed that interview. Hopfull I can 268 00:14:23,280 --> 00:14:25,760 Speaker 1: get him in studio next time he's in town talking 269 00:14:25,920 --> 00:14:28,360 Speaker 1: about investigating the fraud. And as I've mentioned, I know 270 00:14:28,360 --> 00:14:32,440 Speaker 1: there's a lot of concern of individuals saying that right 271 00:14:32,480 --> 00:14:37,040 Speaker 1: now what's taking place is a distraction from the fraud. 272 00:14:37,760 --> 00:14:42,600 Speaker 1: I'm not as worried about that. My expectation is that 273 00:14:42,960 --> 00:14:49,160 Speaker 1: once we get past these ICE investigations, we will more 274 00:14:49,200 --> 00:14:54,320 Speaker 1: than likely see fraud continue to go and take the 275 00:14:54,360 --> 00:14:56,520 Speaker 1: top spot in terms of stories that we're talking about. 276 00:14:56,560 --> 00:15:01,440 Speaker 1: As a matter of fact, Deputy Attorney General Blanche was 277 00:15:01,480 --> 00:15:04,840 Speaker 1: on Fox and he was talking about this very issue yesterday. 278 00:15:05,200 --> 00:15:08,400 Speaker 7: And we have several ongoing investigations, and remember what was 279 00:15:08,400 --> 00:15:11,760 Speaker 7: happening in December, Laura, we had a massive fraud going 280 00:15:11,800 --> 00:15:15,840 Speaker 7: on all through Minneapolis, all through Minnesota, and suddenly it turned, 281 00:15:15,960 --> 00:15:18,880 Speaker 7: It turned almost on a dime, and it became suddenly 282 00:15:18,920 --> 00:15:21,160 Speaker 7: all about Ice, all about getting Ice out and how 283 00:15:21,200 --> 00:15:23,680 Speaker 7: horrible Ice was doing. But really, what we have here 284 00:15:23,840 --> 00:15:27,800 Speaker 7: is a massive underground fraud network operating in Minneapolis. And 285 00:15:27,840 --> 00:15:31,680 Speaker 7: we had a very strong pushback, very strong pushback when 286 00:15:31,720 --> 00:15:34,120 Speaker 7: we raised our hands and said stop. And so yes, 287 00:15:34,200 --> 00:15:37,320 Speaker 7: we have multiple investigations going on. We sent prosecutor from 288 00:15:37,400 --> 00:15:41,160 Speaker 7: Main Justice, we sent prosecutors from other US attorney's offices 289 00:15:41,160 --> 00:15:44,320 Speaker 7: all over the country, and we're making progress every day. 290 00:15:44,640 --> 00:15:47,440 Speaker 1: Man, I can't tell you, and I think for me personally, 291 00:15:49,120 --> 00:15:52,000 Speaker 1: the pause and the discussion around the fraud, I'm glad 292 00:15:52,000 --> 00:15:54,840 Speaker 1: that it happened. As the person that believes everything happens 293 00:15:54,840 --> 00:15:58,800 Speaker 1: for a reason, the fraud story ran the risk of 294 00:15:58,840 --> 00:16:03,960 Speaker 1: becoming white noise. And now we've got a break. But 295 00:16:04,000 --> 00:16:06,160 Speaker 1: as we talked about with Mike Stewart, the General Council, 296 00:16:06,400 --> 00:16:09,880 Speaker 1: HHS and others have mentioning the results of these fraud 297 00:16:09,920 --> 00:16:13,760 Speaker 1: investigations is going to happen sooner than later, and a 298 00:16:13,800 --> 00:16:16,720 Speaker 1: little more likely coincide with the drawing down of the 299 00:16:16,760 --> 00:16:20,680 Speaker 1: Ice operations which are slowing down despite these ridiculous blockades 300 00:16:20,760 --> 00:16:24,200 Speaker 1: taking place. Also on Fox News, FBI Director cash Matel 301 00:16:24,280 --> 00:16:27,560 Speaker 1: firing back at Tim Walls and his comments last week 302 00:16:27,720 --> 00:16:28,840 Speaker 1: relating to the fraud. 303 00:16:28,840 --> 00:16:30,880 Speaker 2: Here's what he had to say over the weekend. 304 00:16:31,160 --> 00:16:34,560 Speaker 8: Thankfully every state does not have this problem. I don't 305 00:16:34,560 --> 00:16:37,120 Speaker 8: have another statistic to give you where we arrested seventy 306 00:16:37,120 --> 00:16:39,600 Speaker 8: five individuals in one summer for one hundreds of millions 307 00:16:39,600 --> 00:16:42,600 Speaker 8: of dollars of fraud related to a program that's supposed 308 00:16:42,600 --> 00:16:46,600 Speaker 8: to feed Malner's children and underprivileged families. So I don't 309 00:16:46,640 --> 00:16:49,000 Speaker 8: know what he's talking about. That's pushing it under the rug. 310 00:16:49,240 --> 00:16:51,840 Speaker 8: And also a fraud of this size, there should be 311 00:16:51,920 --> 00:16:55,280 Speaker 8: state and local authorities alerting the FBI early on and 312 00:16:55,400 --> 00:16:58,760 Speaker 8: participating in our investigation. We went up there and did 313 00:16:58,760 --> 00:17:01,520 Speaker 8: it with the federal authority in the DOJ, and we've 314 00:17:01,520 --> 00:17:03,920 Speaker 8: continued to ask those in Minnesota and around the country 315 00:17:03,920 --> 00:17:05,800 Speaker 8: have any information on this to let us know, because 316 00:17:05,920 --> 00:17:07,120 Speaker 8: this investigation is not. 317 00:17:07,119 --> 00:17:11,600 Speaker 2: Over coming up. We'll get to more of your comment. 318 00:17:11,680 --> 00:17:14,560 Speaker 1: As I mentioned regarding the blockade taking place in Minneapolis. 319 00:17:14,680 --> 00:17:17,480 Speaker 1: Tina Smith endorses Lieutenant Governor Peggy Flan again. 320 00:17:17,840 --> 00:17:20,480 Speaker 2: I just find that funny. It's gonna be a fun 321 00:17:20,600 --> 00:17:22,159 Speaker 2: race to watch to watch. 322 00:17:22,400 --> 00:17:26,240 Speaker 1: Speaking of Lieutenant Governor Peggy Flan again, she has denied 323 00:17:26,840 --> 00:17:33,000 Speaker 1: any connection to the signal chats that these insurrectionists here 324 00:17:33,040 --> 00:17:34,680 Speaker 1: in Minnesota have been using. 325 00:17:35,600 --> 00:17:36,879 Speaker 2: She says it's ridiculous. 326 00:17:39,320 --> 00:17:44,640 Speaker 1: This may have, inadvertently, though, caused a headache for Democrats 327 00:17:46,000 --> 00:17:50,240 Speaker 1: in her even addressing the issue. 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I felt bad for them. 343 00:18:57,520 --> 00:18:59,320 Speaker 1: I will make sure that I take care of you 344 00:18:59,320 --> 00:19:01,480 Speaker 1: at some point in time, but I do appreciate everybody's 345 00:19:01,480 --> 00:19:05,120 Speaker 1: talkback talkbacks. This is, however, your talkback of the day, 346 00:19:05,400 --> 00:19:09,000 Speaker 1: brought to you by minileafanmnileaf dot com for Tuesday. 347 00:19:09,760 --> 00:19:11,520 Speaker 9: Hey, good morning, say, I just want to add to 348 00:19:11,600 --> 00:19:16,199 Speaker 9: your soundlike idiots, act like idiots, look like idiots. I 349 00:19:16,200 --> 00:19:19,560 Speaker 9: guess if that's all happening, then they are idiots. So 350 00:19:19,880 --> 00:19:24,560 Speaker 9: to those people out there blockating streets and throwing tantrums, 351 00:19:25,280 --> 00:19:28,600 Speaker 9: believe me, most of us in this country think you 352 00:19:28,640 --> 00:19:29,440 Speaker 9: are idiots. 353 00:19:29,680 --> 00:19:31,840 Speaker 1: That is your talk back of the day and it 354 00:19:31,880 --> 00:19:34,240 Speaker 1: has brought to you by minileaf and minileaf dot com. 355 00:19:34,240 --> 00:19:37,960 Speaker 1: If you need a break, you're dealing with some issues, 356 00:19:38,000 --> 00:19:40,880 Speaker 1: can't get a good night's sleep, check out the products 357 00:19:41,359 --> 00:19:45,080 Speaker 1: available at mini leaf dot com, m I N N 358 00:19:45,160 --> 00:19:47,520 Speaker 1: E L e A f dot com. All right, before 359 00:19:47,520 --> 00:19:49,959 Speaker 1: we get back to the blockades, because a lot of 360 00:19:50,000 --> 00:19:54,360 Speaker 1: you have left comments that I want to dive into 361 00:19:54,480 --> 00:19:57,640 Speaker 1: this morning, I want to play this clip from Pete Hegseth. 362 00:19:58,080 --> 00:20:00,760 Speaker 1: I'm gonna make it relate. This is your Secretary of 363 00:20:00,800 --> 00:20:03,400 Speaker 1: War and friend of the show, Pete Hexseth the speaking 364 00:20:04,480 --> 00:20:08,080 Speaker 1: to a group earlier. Actually, I think this is over 365 00:20:08,119 --> 00:20:10,960 Speaker 1: the weekend. Listen to what Pete had to say here. 366 00:20:11,320 --> 00:20:14,720 Speaker 8: Thankfully every state does not have this problem. I don't 367 00:20:14,760 --> 00:20:17,280 Speaker 8: have another statistic to give you where we arrested seventy 368 00:20:17,280 --> 00:20:18,760 Speaker 8: five individuals in one summer. 369 00:20:18,920 --> 00:20:21,399 Speaker 2: I'm sorry, that is uh, that is cash hotel. This 370 00:20:21,480 --> 00:20:22,120 Speaker 2: is Pete xth. 371 00:20:22,960 --> 00:20:24,720 Speaker 10: Well there. I don't know if you've noticed. 372 00:20:24,720 --> 00:20:25,960 Speaker 2: There haven't been many. 373 00:20:25,800 --> 00:20:30,920 Speaker 10: Boats sunk recently because we can't find any boats to sink. 374 00:20:33,880 --> 00:20:39,159 Speaker 10: And I'll pause for a minor announcement as work continues 375 00:20:39,320 --> 00:20:44,720 Speaker 10: as it should, as it should, don't stop for a speech. 376 00:20:48,920 --> 00:20:50,720 Speaker 10: You see, no one wants to get in a narco 377 00:20:50,840 --> 00:20:51,560 Speaker 10: boat anymore. 378 00:20:52,440 --> 00:20:56,600 Speaker 2: And that's the whole point. Yeah, haven't you noticed? 379 00:20:56,760 --> 00:21:00,920 Speaker 1: You probably haven't, but we haven't had any stories about 380 00:21:00,920 --> 00:21:05,119 Speaker 1: boats being sunk because for the most part, the drug 381 00:21:05,119 --> 00:21:11,520 Speaker 1: trafficking has stopped. Countless lives potentially saved because of this. 382 00:21:12,760 --> 00:21:18,280 Speaker 1: The drug traffickers got the hint, stopped sending their drug 383 00:21:18,320 --> 00:21:21,679 Speaker 1: filled boats to be blown up. It's amazing how that happens. 384 00:21:21,720 --> 00:21:26,159 Speaker 1: It just takes the resolve to go and get the 385 00:21:26,240 --> 00:21:26,960 Speaker 1: job done. 386 00:21:27,080 --> 00:21:28,320 Speaker 2: That's it, and. 387 00:21:28,280 --> 00:21:31,480 Speaker 1: This is what I hope ICE continues to do here locally. 388 00:21:33,920 --> 00:21:38,680 Speaker 1: Don't give up, don't let the agitators slow down what the. 389 00:21:38,600 --> 00:21:39,760 Speaker 2: Federal government is doing. 390 00:21:40,400 --> 00:21:43,080 Speaker 1: As we mentioned at the top of the seven o'clock hour, 391 00:21:43,119 --> 00:21:44,960 Speaker 1: and if you missed it, go and check out the podcast. 392 00:21:45,040 --> 00:21:47,399 Speaker 1: The polling is on the side, the facts are on 393 00:21:47,480 --> 00:21:53,040 Speaker 1: the side of you and me, friends of the show, 394 00:21:53,080 --> 00:21:58,680 Speaker 1: not the foes. And in the actions of these agitators, 395 00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:03,320 Speaker 1: it's built from recliners, gates and other odds and ends 396 00:22:03,560 --> 00:22:06,800 Speaker 1: blocking a city street in the area of thirty second 397 00:22:06,880 --> 00:22:11,320 Speaker 1: to thirty fourth and Cedar Avenue. Minneapolis police officers approached 398 00:22:11,320 --> 00:22:14,600 Speaker 1: I'm working off an article here from Alpha News urged 399 00:22:14,640 --> 00:22:17,480 Speaker 1: the group to move the obstruction for fire trucks and ambulances. 400 00:22:17,720 --> 00:22:21,800 Speaker 1: The protesters didn't bowl, didn't budge, insisting they could shift 401 00:22:22,359 --> 00:22:25,760 Speaker 1: if an emergency vehicle came along. The officers eventually left 402 00:22:25,760 --> 00:22:30,480 Speaker 1: without enforcing the move. Agitators have set up roadblocks and 403 00:22:30,520 --> 00:22:33,000 Speaker 1: are checking people's IDs who try to pass through the 404 00:22:33,080 --> 00:22:36,240 Speaker 1: area again thirty second to thirty fourth and Cedar Avenue. 405 00:22:36,280 --> 00:22:37,280 Speaker 2: It's absurd. 406 00:22:38,560 --> 00:22:41,040 Speaker 1: The Minneapolis Department of Public Safety told Alphinus in a 407 00:22:41,080 --> 00:22:44,959 Speaker 1: statement that blocking or barricading public roadways creates a public 408 00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:47,720 Speaker 1: safety threat because it could prevent or slow police, fire 409 00:22:47,800 --> 00:22:51,400 Speaker 1: ems or other first responders from getting to residents who 410 00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:56,200 Speaker 1: need help. For specific examples of alleged roadway blockages in Minneapolis, 411 00:22:56,240 --> 00:22:59,120 Speaker 1: we refer you to the Minneapolis Police Department, just as 412 00:22:59,119 --> 00:23:02,719 Speaker 1: we would other local agencies who would be the leads 413 00:23:02,760 --> 00:23:05,800 Speaker 1: in their cities or counties. Now again, I was happy 414 00:23:05,840 --> 00:23:08,159 Speaker 1: to see some video footage this morning. It looked to 415 00:23:08,200 --> 00:23:11,000 Speaker 1: be one of these blockades being dismantled. 416 00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:14,760 Speaker 2: By They just gonna go and put him back up again. 417 00:23:14,840 --> 00:23:17,760 Speaker 1: We know how long those blockades ended up staying up 418 00:23:17,840 --> 00:23:22,200 Speaker 1: down in George Floyd Square doing nothing with my fingers. 419 00:23:23,800 --> 00:23:26,719 Speaker 1: Video show anti ice activists. We played you audio earlier. 420 00:23:26,760 --> 00:23:32,040 Speaker 1: Approaching vehicles checking license plates, a man says to an 421 00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:37,679 Speaker 1: Uber driver for reporter George Ventura in a video, it 422 00:23:37,720 --> 00:23:40,520 Speaker 1: looks like in our system your plates came up as 423 00:23:40,880 --> 00:23:41,600 Speaker 1: an ice plate. 424 00:23:42,160 --> 00:23:46,639 Speaker 2: I just wanted to come through and see what's up again. 425 00:23:46,680 --> 00:23:48,360 Speaker 2: We have some of your thoughts that I'll share here. 426 00:23:48,359 --> 00:23:48,920 Speaker 2: In just a moment. 427 00:23:49,040 --> 00:23:52,320 Speaker 1: I don't know how I would react Honestly, I know 428 00:23:52,359 --> 00:23:54,320 Speaker 1: how ticked off I get when I'm driving to somebody 429 00:23:54,320 --> 00:23:56,280 Speaker 1: tailgates me and I want to turn into Batman for 430 00:23:56,320 --> 00:24:00,000 Speaker 1: grind out loud. Now that I'm kind of driving to Batmobile, 431 00:24:02,080 --> 00:24:05,719 Speaker 1: I like my car. The activists ran the plate of 432 00:24:05,760 --> 00:24:09,600 Speaker 1: my Uber in their database. Very well organized. I asked 433 00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:13,000 Speaker 1: them directly about this. This was a post by George 434 00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:18,600 Speaker 1: Ventura Media. Another video says Ventura Ventura, excuse me being 435 00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:21,919 Speaker 1: assaulted by activists who were stopping vehicles in the street. 436 00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:24,399 Speaker 1: Here's a little bit. This is the audio that I 437 00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:26,000 Speaker 1: shared with you earlier. I'll just play you a portion 438 00:24:26,040 --> 00:24:26,280 Speaker 1: of it. 439 00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:29,560 Speaker 11: In South Minneapolis, we just actually spoke to some of 440 00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:30,640 Speaker 11: the individuals you're. 441 00:24:30,520 --> 00:24:32,679 Speaker 12: Going and just took out here wearing the kind of 442 00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:34,120 Speaker 12: black block covering their faces. 443 00:24:34,160 --> 00:24:35,800 Speaker 2: They have this kind of block. 444 00:24:35,560 --> 00:24:37,119 Speaker 13: Gave here where they're stopping some vehicles. 445 00:24:37,119 --> 00:24:39,240 Speaker 11: Actually, Derek, you could point down there are actually stopping 446 00:24:39,240 --> 00:24:42,000 Speaker 11: this vehicle and they checked the out of state places 447 00:24:42,040 --> 00:24:44,760 Speaker 11: to see if they're ICE. And what's interesting is this 448 00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:48,160 Speaker 11: moment to go down there, we have an Uber drivers 449 00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:51,040 Speaker 11: from Somali. It's clearly not ICE, and they say that 450 00:24:51,080 --> 00:24:54,640 Speaker 11: in their database that that vehicle was popping up as 451 00:24:54,760 --> 00:24:57,800 Speaker 11: an ICE vehicle, So we were questioning them about this 452 00:24:57,920 --> 00:25:00,720 Speaker 11: database that they're using. Obviously there's the type of network 453 00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:01,520 Speaker 11: or communication. 454 00:25:02,560 --> 00:25:04,400 Speaker 2: According to the local lawenforcement. 455 00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:04,960 Speaker 9: Hasn't even come any stop. 456 00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:06,960 Speaker 11: So A just gonna keep shoot some of this to 457 00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:07,560 Speaker 11: check it out. 458 00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:12,040 Speaker 1: So with this, you also have and I'll get into 459 00:25:12,119 --> 00:25:14,440 Speaker 1: I'll get into more of this here in just a moment, 460 00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:23,199 Speaker 1: But you have Ryan Winkler, Minnesota House candidate, admitting to 461 00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:30,359 Speaker 1: organizing resistance training aimed at actively opposing the federal government today. 462 00:25:30,359 --> 00:25:34,119 Speaker 14: At the same time that ICE was sitting outside my house, 463 00:25:35,119 --> 00:25:39,920 Speaker 14: I was hosting a resistance training. We've advertised it publicly, 464 00:25:40,560 --> 00:25:44,119 Speaker 14: and we had two hundred people in a room in 465 00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:48,680 Speaker 14: Golden Valley, Minnesota, trying to figure out ways to actively 466 00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:54,040 Speaker 14: resist an authoritarian federal government. Do I know that ICE 467 00:25:54,160 --> 00:25:57,280 Speaker 14: was outside my house because we were having a public 468 00:25:57,280 --> 00:25:59,000 Speaker 14: event designed. 469 00:25:58,520 --> 00:26:01,040 Speaker 2: To resist what they're doing? In minute, No, I don't 470 00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:02,719 Speaker 2: know that, but I suspect that. 471 00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:06,600 Speaker 14: And that's the kind of dystopian, messed up America that 472 00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:08,919 Speaker 14: we are living in under this administration, and that is 473 00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:11,480 Speaker 14: why we have to fight back. And I will not 474 00:26:11,560 --> 00:26:15,320 Speaker 14: be intimidated, none of us in Minnesota should be intimidated. 475 00:26:15,280 --> 00:26:19,000 Speaker 2: Ryan Winkler, You're a clown. You're a clown. 476 00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:25,760 Speaker 1: You know. I call them insurrectionists because what is an insurrection. 477 00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:33,480 Speaker 1: It's a resistance that's organized against what the authority of 478 00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:39,440 Speaker 1: the United States towards, laws making normal law enforcement essentially impractical. 479 00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:42,720 Speaker 1: And yet these anti ICE or insurrections, those setting up 480 00:26:42,760 --> 00:26:47,080 Speaker 1: the blockades, those protesting Ryan Winkler, They're living out a 481 00:26:47,119 --> 00:26:49,840 Speaker 1: real world fantasy. They've all been told for so long 482 00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:53,240 Speaker 1: that Trump is an authoritarian that they are now partaking 483 00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:57,600 Speaker 1: in a self fulfilling prophecy, their own prophecy. Is this 484 00:26:57,680 --> 00:27:00,360 Speaker 1: the final phase of Trump arrangement syndrome? This is where 485 00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:07,400 Speaker 1: we are now. They invented this fight against a phantom 486 00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:13,440 Speaker 1: force of oppression. ICE isn't coming for Ryan Winkler. Ice 487 00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:21,640 Speaker 1: isn't coming for the individuals in his training session. All 488 00:27:21,680 --> 00:27:29,960 Speaker 1: the while, they're creating their own dystopian nightmare on the streets, 489 00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:34,399 Speaker 1: the very thing that they say ICE is doing, profiling individuals, 490 00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:35,680 Speaker 1: checking their ideas. 491 00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:38,000 Speaker 2: We saw that your plate said that you were an 492 00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:41,080 Speaker 2: ICE vehicle. I'm just coming up here to find out 493 00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:46,200 Speaker 2: what's up with that. Who the hell are you again? 494 00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:47,440 Speaker 2: I don't know. 495 00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:54,639 Speaker 1: How I would respond when faced with that situation. 496 00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:59,679 Speaker 2: I really really don't. Let's get to some of your thoughts. 497 00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:04,680 Speaker 13: So where does this go? John? They run my plate, 498 00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:07,720 Speaker 13: they get my address, they why not all my information, 499 00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:09,880 Speaker 13: and they don't like my political views, so they come 500 00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:14,520 Speaker 13: to my house or ask me, maybe kill me, Robney, 501 00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:19,000 Speaker 13: take my house over, because you know they're the righteous ones. 502 00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:23,439 Speaker 13: Where does this end? John? Where is the governor and 503 00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:24,680 Speaker 13: where is law enforcement? 504 00:28:24,840 --> 00:28:28,960 Speaker 1: I know, and again this usually needs to like the 505 00:28:29,080 --> 00:28:35,439 Speaker 1: response from our leaders. They only react if they feel 506 00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:40,000 Speaker 1: like their political capital is in jeopardy. So at this point, 507 00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:47,480 Speaker 1: unless these blockades specifically are being dismantled, at this point, 508 00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:55,080 Speaker 1: it's really going to take some horrific incident between individuals 509 00:28:55,240 --> 00:29:02,240 Speaker 1: moving through these areas and an average citizen and something 510 00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:11,200 Speaker 1: horrific happening before our government response. Keith Ellison continuing to 511 00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:14,400 Speaker 1: push the baseless lies about ICE. Listen to the way 512 00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:17,640 Speaker 1: that he describes them, just based off of what I've 513 00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:20,360 Speaker 1: been talking about over the course of the past fifteen minutes. 514 00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:21,840 Speaker 2: This is your Attorney general. 515 00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:26,600 Speaker 4: Chip around ten to twelve percent of all of America's 516 00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:33,280 Speaker 4: immigration agents right here, right now, looking for something to do, harassing, 517 00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:38,320 Speaker 4: bullying people, do all kinds of horrible things. And what 518 00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:43,080 Speaker 4: we're saying is that this massive escalation is about punishing Minnesota. 519 00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:48,520 Speaker 1: When was the last new video that you saw of 520 00:29:48,560 --> 00:29:53,840 Speaker 1: Ice involved with anybody here locally? I follow this on 521 00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:57,920 Speaker 1: a daily basis. I spend hours. It's unhealthy, but it's 522 00:29:57,960 --> 00:30:01,120 Speaker 1: part of the job. I spend hours on x looking 523 00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:04,480 Speaker 1: for audio. It's one of the best sources of you know, 524 00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:07,360 Speaker 1: of news to kind of find out what's happening before 525 00:30:07,360 --> 00:30:09,440 Speaker 1: it happens and the stories are written. And I can 526 00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:11,840 Speaker 1: tell you there's been no new videos of anything of 527 00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:13,000 Speaker 1: what Ellison is claiming. 528 00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:16,480 Speaker 2: What else is claiming beyond the two shooting incidents. 529 00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:19,800 Speaker 1: Three shooting incidents essentially, but what Ellison is saying here, 530 00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:22,800 Speaker 1: beyond those, there hasn't been any further examples of that. 531 00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:24,640 Speaker 1: But what we have seen is everything that I'm talking 532 00:30:24,680 --> 00:30:29,680 Speaker 1: about now, these checkpoints taking place, the bullying, the profiling, 533 00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:33,440 Speaker 1: these yahoo's on the streets looking for something to do. 534 00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:35,440 Speaker 1: He's describing the insurgence. 535 00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:40,720 Speaker 4: Not around ten to twelve percent of all of avant 536 00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:47,280 Speaker 4: immigration agents right here right now looking for something to do, harassing, 537 00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:48,720 Speaker 4: bullying people. 538 00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:50,160 Speaker 2: That's exactly what they're doing. 539 00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:54,920 Speaker 1: Yahoo's standing around looking for something to do, live action 540 00:30:55,080 --> 00:31:04,240 Speaker 1: role playing, acting like they're part of some resistance, playing 541 00:31:04,280 --> 00:31:08,400 Speaker 1: out some fantasy that I love movies as much as 542 00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:11,760 Speaker 1: the next person, but I also know the difference between 543 00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:13,760 Speaker 1: fantasy and reality. 544 00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:15,120 Speaker 2: These people don't. 545 00:31:18,040 --> 00:31:21,800 Speaker 1: Co opting symbols from Star Wars for crying out loud, 546 00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:23,800 Speaker 1: we're a part of the resistance. 547 00:31:24,600 --> 00:31:25,800 Speaker 2: There are a bunch of buffoons. 548 00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:29,400 Speaker 1: Yes, if you are listening and you are an anti 549 00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:31,880 Speaker 1: is insurgents and you've been insurgent and you've been a 550 00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:33,719 Speaker 1: part of any of this, you're a buffoon. 551 00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:37,880 Speaker 15: Hey, John, great show as always. I want to add 552 00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:42,080 Speaker 15: to that talk backs or comment. I'm on Facebook. I'm 553 00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:44,600 Speaker 15: in my neighborhood Facebook. 554 00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:46,120 Speaker 2: Group chat with all these old. 555 00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:50,840 Speaker 15: Weirdos, leftists or crazy. But they're cracking down on hotels 556 00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:54,240 Speaker 15: and saying that they check plates. There's comments of guys saying, hey, 557 00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:55,840 Speaker 15: I have receipts of checking plates. 558 00:31:56,320 --> 00:31:57,800 Speaker 2: Can I report this? 559 00:31:57,800 --> 00:32:00,880 Speaker 15: This seems quite illegal? Like how are they doing this 560 00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:04,000 Speaker 15: and why it's so crazy? Thanks for the help. 561 00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:05,960 Speaker 1: I have a story and I'll have to get to 562 00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:08,240 Speaker 1: it on tomorrow's show because we don't have time today. 563 00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:14,640 Speaker 1: Good night Ice, But first some rage against the machine 564 00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:20,600 Speaker 1: demonstrators and the roving makeshift rock band keep up feds 565 00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:30,840 Speaker 1: at night at area hotels. Do they take themselves seriously? 566 00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:34,320 Speaker 1: I think some of them don't. I think some of 567 00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:37,080 Speaker 1: them are just getting off on all of this. Again, 568 00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:39,560 Speaker 1: it's it's like real world, live action role playing. You've 569 00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:42,280 Speaker 1: seen the videos of the marchers looking all tough as 570 00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:49,040 Speaker 1: they do their chance with their coordinated outfits. These jerks, 571 00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:53,760 Speaker 1: these bullies, running plates, profiling individuals as if there's some 572 00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:55,240 Speaker 1: sort of citizen. 573 00:32:57,000 --> 00:32:57,320 Speaker 2: Force. 574 00:32:58,360 --> 00:33:02,280 Speaker 1: You know, this is what narratives like violence interrupters brings you. 575 00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:07,560 Speaker 1: They all suddenly become their own violence interrupters. But I 576 00:33:07,560 --> 00:33:12,120 Speaker 1: don't think they realize the danger they're putting themselves in 577 00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:13,400 Speaker 1: by doing all of this. 578 00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:16,320 Speaker 9: John, I'd just like to point out that you are 579 00:33:16,360 --> 00:33:21,120 Speaker 9: the Minnesota Supreme Court has ruled checkpoints are unconstitutional. 580 00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:25,920 Speaker 16: So the leftists who scream civil rights are in the 581 00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:32,040 Speaker 16: process of violating everybody who disagrees with them civil rights 582 00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:35,800 Speaker 16: by prohibiting free travel that they're entitled to. 583 00:33:36,040 --> 00:33:36,280 Speaker 3: Yep. 584 00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:39,640 Speaker 12: Yeah, the most nefarious part about these checkpoints is is 585 00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:46,560 Speaker 12: that's unlawful detention. They are illegally detaining people with zero authority, 586 00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:50,480 Speaker 12: and the cops are doing nothing. The government's doing nothing. 587 00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:54,800 Speaker 12: At some point, somebody's gonna say we're done with this. 588 00:33:55,600 --> 00:33:59,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's that's my concern. My concern. 589 00:34:01,680 --> 00:34:03,800 Speaker 1: Is that somebody's gonna end up getting hurt in all 590 00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:10,080 Speaker 1: of this because of these because of these idiots. Let 591 00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:14,640 Speaker 1: me sneak in this comment here this clip. It fits 592 00:34:14,680 --> 00:34:20,040 Speaker 1: with the theme Democrat candidates are now openly promising to 593 00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:23,520 Speaker 1: punish Republicans for voting for Trump if they win again. 594 00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:26,040 Speaker 2: There are all such bogus threats. 595 00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:31,400 Speaker 1: There's no legal standing whatsoever for what these jerks are claiming. 596 00:34:31,640 --> 00:34:36,200 Speaker 1: It's costing individuals their jobs. There was another idiot nurse yesterday. 597 00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:39,880 Speaker 1: Will I followed this whole thing unfold as it unfolded 598 00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:43,960 Speaker 1: yesterday posted a video up online about this. 599 00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:46,080 Speaker 2: Another nurse. 600 00:34:48,160 --> 00:34:51,120 Speaker 1: Played a clip of an individual talking about ice agents 601 00:34:51,120 --> 00:34:55,120 Speaker 1: getting injured where it was appropriate to go and injure 602 00:34:55,160 --> 00:34:57,880 Speaker 1: an ice agents so they bleed the most I'm not 603 00:34:57,920 --> 00:35:02,240 Speaker 1: even kidding. Then this nurse in their scrubs talks about 604 00:35:02,239 --> 00:35:07,080 Speaker 1: how they work in the cardio wing of the hospital 605 00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:12,440 Speaker 1: dealing with emergency situations and the veins within their legs 606 00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:15,399 Speaker 1: and people who just bleed out, insinuating that he would 607 00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:19,640 Speaker 1: allow this to happen. So as the videos went viral, 608 00:35:21,239 --> 00:35:24,400 Speaker 1: he then posted again, claiming that, oh no, the bots 609 00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:27,000 Speaker 1: are out to get me. No, it was real world 610 00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:29,240 Speaker 1: individuals concern that you're going to hurt somebody. 611 00:35:29,520 --> 00:35:33,200 Speaker 2: And then what happened, Oh he got fired. I thank 612 00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:34,240 Speaker 2: the good Lord Amine. 613 00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:35,359 Speaker 6: Oh hell yeah. 614 00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:40,279 Speaker 1: So this candidate here, Susannah Caratassos stating in a now 615 00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:44,520 Speaker 1: deleted video, what she wants to see happen once Trump 616 00:35:44,600 --> 00:35:46,720 Speaker 1: is no longer in office. 617 00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:48,880 Speaker 17: When this is all over and Trump is gone and 618 00:35:48,920 --> 00:35:52,160 Speaker 17: Democrats are back in charge and we're rebuilding everything. The 619 00:35:52,239 --> 00:35:57,040 Speaker 17: punishment for MAGA for voting Trump three times needs to 620 00:35:57,080 --> 00:36:01,240 Speaker 17: be that they lose their internet access for four years, 621 00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:07,400 Speaker 17: that they cannot post videos or comments on social media 622 00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:10,680 Speaker 17: for four straight years, so that none of us are 623 00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:15,919 Speaker 17: subjected to their lives and misinformation while we are rebuilding 624 00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:19,960 Speaker 17: the chaos that they caused the whole world, and America 625 00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:26,240 Speaker 17: gets to be without their bs online for four straight years. 626 00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:27,680 Speaker 2: Can we all agree to this? 627 00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:31,600 Speaker 1: No? And you she doesn't even stand by it because 628 00:36:31,640 --> 00:36:36,080 Speaker 1: she ended up deleting the video. I went on Newsmax yesterday. 629 00:36:36,120 --> 00:36:38,960 Speaker 1: It was actually a lengthy hit. Quite enjoyed it, and 630 00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:41,759 Speaker 1: it was their left versus right deal. I do have 631 00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:45,920 Speaker 1: some positive news to share. Matt Lieberman I think is 632 00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:50,439 Speaker 1: his name. Don't know what state he's from cause there's 633 00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:54,040 Speaker 1: an office, But there was a move by one of 634 00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:57,160 Speaker 1: the borough presidents in New York City to remove Newsmax 635 00:36:57,480 --> 00:37:01,719 Speaker 1: from inside of the cabs because he doesn't like what 636 00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:05,440 Speaker 1: news Mac says. Says this misinformation right, and they were 637 00:37:05,480 --> 00:37:08,000 Speaker 1: wondering if Zohron Mom Dannie was going to get on 638 00:37:08,080 --> 00:37:11,680 Speaker 1: board with this. We actually agreed that it's censorship and 639 00:37:11,719 --> 00:37:18,160 Speaker 1: it's stupid. I was pleasantly surprised that you can still 640 00:37:18,200 --> 00:37:24,080 Speaker 1: have some bipartisan agreement taking place. All right, let's wrap 641 00:37:24,080 --> 00:37:27,240 Speaker 1: on this. I want to sneak in this talkback really quick. 642 00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:32,280 Speaker 9: They must get a lot of government assistance to essentially 643 00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:37,200 Speaker 9: cosplay revolutionaries, but it makes you warm there. 644 00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:39,120 Speaker 2: These people have jobs. 645 00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:41,840 Speaker 1: Well, we're going to be talking about this at length tomorrow. 646 00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:43,840 Speaker 1: Liz Collin from Alpha News will be joining us in 647 00:37:43,880 --> 00:37:46,080 Speaker 1: this segment on tomorrow show, and we'll get into the 648 00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:49,840 Speaker 1: Minnesota anti ice activists. According to the story from Alpha 649 00:37:49,840 --> 00:37:52,600 Speaker 1: News and Daily Caller getting three point three million from 650 00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:56,440 Speaker 1: Sorrow's back to charities. But during an interview with Fox nine, 651 00:37:56,880 --> 00:38:00,880 Speaker 1: Minnesota Lieutenant Governor Peggy flann again running for Senate, denied 652 00:38:00,920 --> 00:38:04,080 Speaker 1: allegations that she was involved in the signal chat group 653 00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:08,000 Speaker 1: that coordinated the anti ice protests and donations, saying that 654 00:38:08,080 --> 00:38:13,120 Speaker 1: it's ridiculous. An independent journalist Cam Higby posted on social 655 00:38:13,160 --> 00:38:17,080 Speaker 1: media screenshots of signal chats that he claimed were infiltrated 656 00:38:17,680 --> 00:38:20,240 Speaker 1: from a group that had the sole intention of tracking 657 00:38:20,280 --> 00:38:25,440 Speaker 1: down federal agents, impeding, assaulting, and obstructing them. Within the group, 658 00:38:25,440 --> 00:38:29,840 Speaker 1: Willetenant Governor Peggy Flanagan allegedly wrote under an alias planned Southside, 659 00:38:29,840 --> 00:38:33,239 Speaker 1: according to Higbee's post, that she has gone and denied this. 660 00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:34,080 Speaker 2: It's ridiculous. 661 00:38:34,160 --> 00:38:37,319 Speaker 1: That's not me, and I would just say that the 662 00:38:37,360 --> 00:38:39,840 Speaker 1: way that I'm showing up for my neighbors is we 663 00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:42,560 Speaker 1: are getting mutual aid to groceries and families. 664 00:38:42,200 --> 00:38:42,600 Speaker 2: Who need it. 665 00:38:42,680 --> 00:38:46,080 Speaker 1: Okay, So she denies it, but she may have inadvertently 666 00:38:46,120 --> 00:38:49,879 Speaker 1: caused a headache for the DFL by denying, because by 667 00:38:49,880 --> 00:38:52,759 Speaker 1: denying her involvement in the single chat, is that not 668 00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:55,560 Speaker 1: an admission that if she were involved it would be 669 00:38:55,600 --> 00:38:58,759 Speaker 1: an issue. And what does that mean for legislators like 670 00:38:58,800 --> 00:39:03,720 Speaker 1: Brat Tabke, Alex Falconer who've been actively working against ice 671 00:39:04,719 --> 00:39:09,959 Speaker 1: Stocking Wrench, Ryan Winkler. Boy, this legislative session is going 672 00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:16,719 Speaker 1: to be a partisan disaster, but entertaining to watch. Let's 673 00:39:16,719 --> 00:39:18,480 Speaker 1: call and we'll join us on tomorrows show. Thank you 674 00:39:18,560 --> 00:39:20,680 Speaker 1: so much for hanging out today. If you missed any 675 00:39:20,680 --> 00:39:23,759 Speaker 1: portion of today's broadcast, check out the podcast. It'll be 676 00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:28,200 Speaker 1: available up on the iHeartRadio app in mere moments and 677 00:39:28,239 --> 00:39:30,920 Speaker 1: I'll talk to you guys tomorrow morning, just after six o'clock. 678 00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:33,879 Speaker 1: Have yourself a fantastic Tuesday, Bah,