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Speaker 1: It's Night Side with Dan Ray. I'm telling you Boston's

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Speaker 1: Knees Radio.

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Speaker 2: All right, we are talking about energy bills. Uh. The

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Speaker 2: governor in her state of the Commonwealth or state of

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Speaker 2: the state address tonight highlighted the problem with high energy

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Speaker 2: bills in Massachusetts. Clearly, clearly something has to be done.

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Speaker 2: So I'm asking you to call in and tell me

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Speaker 2: if you feel your energy bills, whether it's electrical, gas, whatever, solar,

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Speaker 2: if you feel it's too high, too low, or just

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Speaker 2: right six one seven, four, ten thirty six one seven

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Speaker 2: nine three one ten thirty. Uh, if you have an opportunity,

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Speaker 2: one of the things that you should always do is

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Speaker 2: check out the comparative energy prices that you can that

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Speaker 2: you can get for the delivery, not the physical delivery,

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Speaker 2: but for the product. Uh. It is not standard. And

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Speaker 2: there are too many people out there who do not

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Speaker 2: go to this website. And there is a website in Massachusetts.

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Speaker 2: I'll give it to you which basically after this next call.

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Speaker 2: It's called mass Energy Rates, I believe is what it is.

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Speaker 2: I should know it by heart. And if you'd go

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Speaker 2: there and you and you enter your zip code, you

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Speaker 2: will find out what energy providers you might be able

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Speaker 2: to take advantage of I guarantee you that you'll be

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Speaker 2: able to lower your rate in some form of fashion.

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Speaker 2: Now I'm not advertising for it, but it's something you

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Speaker 2: should look at if if you're concerned about your high

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Speaker 2: energy costs. Simple, simple as that. Tomorrow night, by the way,

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Speaker 2: we will have with us the Auditor the common Wealth,

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Speaker 2: Diana Tosauglio at nine o'clock. We'll have j Rich by

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Speaker 2: the way with us at nine o'clock next Tuesday night.

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Speaker 2: Just in terms of things you can look forward to.

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Speaker 2: Jordan has written a new book about his journey, Jordan's

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Speaker 2: Rich Journey. So it's a little bit of a double

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Speaker 2: on Tendre. There's written along with another. The subtitle is

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Speaker 2: A Path of Purpose, Strength and Hope with Parkinson's. So,

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Speaker 2: as you know, Jordan is dealing with Parkinson's. He's showing

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Speaker 2: incredible courage and an incredible success. And we'll talk about

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Speaker 2: it on Tuesday night, the twenty seventh, at nine o'clock

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Speaker 2: after the snowstorms. Monday night at ten we're going to

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Speaker 2: talk about porch piracy. And again, all we're trying to

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Speaker 2: do is do different topics here we can do. We

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Speaker 2: do the politics. That's the easy stuff to do in

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Speaker 2: this show. What is the tough stuff to do is

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Speaker 2: to find the stories that people ordinarily are not used to.

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Speaker 2: Let's keep rolling here. I want to get as many

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Speaker 2: callers in as possible this hour. We're going to start

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Speaker 2: quickly with Richard in Ashland. Richard, how's your How are

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Speaker 2: your utility bills these days? Are they too high? Too low?

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Speaker 2: Just right?

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Speaker 3: They're outrageous, Dan, They're outrageous, outrageous.

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Speaker 2: That's that's a double too high.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, what this is is maybe we get the supply

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Speaker 3: down a little bit, but the real problem is the

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Speaker 3: delivery charge. That's the real problem. They just changed the

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Speaker 3: name when it's to confuse us what it is. But

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Speaker 3: the delivery charge is almost like two thirds of the bill.

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Speaker 3: It's like twice what the supply is. And now they

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Speaker 3: change the name of it to maintenance in an infrastructure investment.

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Speaker 3: And then public benefits is another one. So it's harder

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Speaker 3: to complain about because it's several different words together. But

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Speaker 3: you know, why are we paying for public benefits? As gas?

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Speaker 3: People into the heat people by heating oil, they pay

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Speaker 3: for that, people burn it? Would they pay for that?

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Speaker 3: I mean it's kind of nice to help the public,

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Speaker 3: but this might be like an equal protection kind of case,

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Speaker 3: you know, I mean, why are we going to pay

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Speaker 2: Well, what they would say, you don't have an equal

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Speaker 2: protection argument there, because one, there's no discrimination. There's no

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Speaker 2: what's called invidious discrimination used for you know, the the

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Speaker 2: im and immutable characteristic. No. But they're saying is well,

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Speaker 2: if you want to convert to oil, you can do that.

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Speaker 2: If you want to convert to coal, if you want

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Speaker 2: to get geothermal, there are other ways to heat your

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Speaker 2: to eat your home. But I'm more you one thousand percent.

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Speaker 3: Well, yeah, I'm paying for the thermal. I'm paying for

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Speaker 3: the thermal. Here, I'm looking at my bill. Here it's

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Speaker 3: a you got ten bucks, no problem, customer change distribution

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Speaker 3: two bucks. Just what Yeah, but the plain I think

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Speaker 3: it's for those windmills. You think it's for the windmills.

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Speaker 3: You think it's for those windmills.

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Speaker 2: Could be there there's some subsidy, there was state subsidy,

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Speaker 2: there were decisions made. You got to go back to

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Speaker 2: Baker's days. You know, people people forget that. For example,

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Speaker 2: the MBTA Communities Act, which is going to cost you money,

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Speaker 2: that was passed and signed by Governor Baker. You know,

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Speaker 2: people don't associate things with Charlie Baker as things that

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Speaker 2: are costing you money today. But you know, the governors

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Speaker 2: from the early two thousands, they missed things and and

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Speaker 2: we're paying for their mistakes right now. It's as simple.

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Speaker 2: It's as simple as that. And we live in a

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Speaker 2: cold Look, we live in a cold region. We don't

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Speaker 2: live in Arizona. We understand that we want to live

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Speaker 2: in Massachusetts, but but the costs now are prohibitive as

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Speaker 2: far as I'm concerned.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and the delivery, I don't really complain so much

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Speaker 3: about the supply. It's just a delivery. So they didn't

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Speaker 3: really just raking us over to call these people.

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Speaker 2: You know, well, again, you live in a one party state.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: And as Lord Acton said, power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts,

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Speaker 2: absolutely simple as that. And we got to show things

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well I noticed, I noticed the government. When you're speaking,

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Speaker 3: she had a kind of a little bit of a smirk.

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Speaker 3: What you're saying, she's trying to keep your bills down,

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Speaker 3: you know.

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Speaker 2: Well, what they're saying is they're going to have like

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Speaker 2: a rate cut or somehow. I never saw anything last winter,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, well there was a little discount, take twenty

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Speaker 2: Didn't see anything, and I keep my bills and I

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Speaker 2: look at them carefully.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it was, but as tiny as tiny compared to

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Speaker 3: what the delivery charge they give you twenty bucks for

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Speaker 2: You know, Well that's that's the problem. It's it's like

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Speaker 2: you know, a three card game, or you know those

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Speaker 2: they put a peanut under some walnutshells and you never

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Speaker 2: can pick. You know, you always lose. It seems like

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Speaker 2: we always lose with government in Massachusetts. It was funny

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Speaker 2: tonight I was watching the governor's speech. She gave a

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Speaker 2: nice presentation and she talked about doing using bills of

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Speaker 2: reducing your cost and the place erupted like, oh they

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Speaker 2: were thrilled with that. When was the last time the

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Speaker 2: legislative voted for anything anything that saved you or me money? Never? Never,

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Speaker 2: But they know when to when too a plot on

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Speaker 2: que anyway, Hey, you know we got we got to

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Speaker 2: shake it up, Richard. Have you called before? Is this

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Speaker 2: your first time? Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, call you.

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Speaker 2: We'll call more. You were too, Yeah, yeah, we'll call

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Speaker 2: more often. Don't don't be a stranger. Happy New Year?

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Speaker 4: Right?

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Speaker 3: YouTube? Did take care?

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Speaker 2: Six four ten thirty one line there and I got

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Speaker 2: two at six one seven nine thirty. I want to

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Speaker 2: know about your energy bills? Are you happy or you're

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Speaker 2: not happy? To put it another way, it's the goldilocks question.

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Speaker 2: Do you feel you're paying too much, too little or

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Speaker 2: just right? The gas prices. Everybody knows gas prices are down.

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Speaker 2: And if there's anyone who doesn't realize that, take it

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Speaker 2: for me. They're down and they're going down more. The

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Speaker 2: great thing about gas prices you can move around, and

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Speaker 2: you can drive by and see what the price is.

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Speaker 2: I go to Patriot Petroleum on Root nine and Wellesley.

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Speaker 2: That consistently is the best gas price I can find

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Speaker 2: anywhere fairly close to where I live, about four or

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Speaker 2: some of the big boys, because they they're still charge

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Speaker 2: filled up at Patriot Petroleum on Root nine westbound in

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Speaker 2: two seventy three. And on Sundays they chop at six

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Speaker 2: you fill up on Sundays, you do really well. But

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Speaker 2: you can't do that in Massachusetts ever. Source is your

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Speaker 2: provider for electricity or it's National grid. You don't have

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Speaker 2: a choice gas stations, you have a choice. There is

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Speaker 2: no choice. The only time that you have little bit

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Speaker 2: of choice, you can go to mass Energy Ratings m

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Speaker 2: Energy ratings dot com and get potentially a different electricity

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Speaker 2: supplier or a different natural gas supplier. Six one seven

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Speaker 2: two four thirty. That's one line six one seven nine

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Speaker 2: you would be upset about these bills. How much you

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Speaker 2: be Look, we have wit has just started. Believe me,

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Speaker 2: it's gonna be months before we get any relief from this.

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Speaker 2: Back on Nightside after this.

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Speaker 1: It's Nights Side with Dan Ray on Boston's news radio.

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Speaker 2: I better keep rolling here by the way. That website

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Speaker 2: that I keep referring to, and I hope you'll look

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Speaker 2: at it as mass Energy Ratings dot com. It may

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Speaker 2: go away. The Attorney General Massages wants to take it away.

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Speaker 2: You have for electricity in my community as low as

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Speaker 2: sixteen point eight sense that's a twelve month fixed rate

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Speaker 2: with direct energy. Then you have rates up to nineteen

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Speaker 2: cents per kilowatt hour something called embrace green Energy. If

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Speaker 2: you want to be with totally green energy, you're gonna

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Speaker 2: pay a little more. It's as simple as that. That's

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Speaker 2: the problem. And our government, and I'm not talking about

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Speaker 2: this specific government, but our government in Massachusetts invested in

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Speaker 2: things like you know, windmills over the years. Let's go

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Speaker 2: to Nancy and holl it's a little Chilian howl tonight.

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Speaker 2: I'll bet you Nancy. How are you tonight?

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Speaker 5: I'm fine? Thanks, how are you?

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Speaker 2: I'm doing great? Appreciate you calling in tell us your

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Speaker 2: energy bills, whether it's gas, electric or whatever, is it

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Speaker 2: too high, too little, or just right?

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Speaker 5: Well? And how we have our own energy are all

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Speaker 5: electrical supply good so compared to other towns, it's very

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Speaker 5: reasonable that I just called National Grid today because I

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Speaker 5: have them for my gas supply yep. And there was

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Speaker 5: an announcement about these credits that we would receive, yes,

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Speaker 5: And so then speaking with the representative from National Grid,

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Speaker 5: I said, what what is the story on that? And

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Speaker 5: she explained to me that it is just a deferred charge.

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Speaker 2: Yes.

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Speaker 5: In other words, you'll see your bill go down in

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Speaker 5: February and March, but then it will go down in

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Speaker 5: March for February and down in April from March, but

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Speaker 5: then whatever you've been credited will then be spread out

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Speaker 5: in your bill from May until December.

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Speaker 2: Right. But there's also I think the possibility that they

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Speaker 2: might charge you interest. So it's almost like a loan.

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's it's like it's like saying, okay, you

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Speaker 2: can average out. It's not really a savings I mean.

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Speaker 6: No, it's not.

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Speaker 5: It's just it's a deferral of payment. But it's presented

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I can quote from I don't have the sound

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Speaker 5: Well, starting right back on your bill, but they're they're

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Speaker 2: I'm so happy that you called an emphasis size that point,

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Speaker 5: Well, I'm looking at at the bill. I should receive

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Speaker 5: It saved me thirty eight cents and my supply service

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Speaker 2: Wow. Wow, that thirty eight cents makes a big difference,

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Speaker 3: Did it?

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Speaker 5: Really?

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Speaker 2: You know? What mean? What I do?

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Speaker 5: The bill itself it says you can choose your supply

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Speaker 2: Right, that's right, right, right. You can reduce the cost

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Speaker 5: Well, I probably will do that because I do keep

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Speaker 2: Yeah, because it's that.

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Speaker 5: I can have a different service, you.

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Speaker 2: Can have a different supplier, and you can go to

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Speaker 5: Easily, right, But I'm still going to have a big

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Speaker 2: Yes, yes, because yes, because but.

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Speaker 5: I may say somewhat on the supply.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's only the supply. Yeah, Okay, I hope I've

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Speaker 2: to get my direct number from rob if I I'll

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Speaker 5: I actually looked at the website at one time, so

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Speaker 2: That's excellent. Okay, thanks so much, Nancy. I appreciate your call.

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Speaker 2: Hope you continue to call the program since your first.

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Speaker 5: Time it is.

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Speaker 2: Well, I knew I had a first time caller here

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Speaker 5: Okay, thank you every night. Thank you you very very much.

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Speaker 2: I appreciate it. Look forward to call your second call.

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Speaker 2: Thanks again. All right, let me keep rolling here, going

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Speaker 2: to go to Jeff up in Maine. First time. I

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Speaker 4: Oh, I'm doing pretty good. This is probably close to

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Speaker 2: That's okay. I know the name Happy New Year.

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Speaker 4: If I remember correctly, it was the Radison Manchester twenty twelve,

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Speaker 2: Well I started Nightside in two thousand and seven. But

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Speaker 4: Actually, yeah, I'm pretty much treeked optall and well, the

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Speaker 4: The Radison through the through the blinding ice storm. Let's

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Speaker 4: jump to the electric. I want to congratulate the three

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Speaker 4: reduce Massachusetts electric rates. Oh it might it might reduce

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Speaker 4: your kiloout hour rate, But that three billion dollars is

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Speaker 2: Only going to get worse, only going to get worse.

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Speaker 4: I own three solar fields. When I build a solar

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Speaker 2: Tell them a buy back on terms of solar.

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Speaker 2: Said something which caught my attention, Jeff. My question is this.

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Speaker 2: Has that worked out for you? And now, obviously you

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Speaker 4: I wish they were vacant lots. A very large blueberry farm, okay,

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Speaker 4: Cooper not cooperative company, family owned, had five different twelve

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Speaker 2: Deeah. We're getting a little off track here, Jeff. So

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you told us that already. Yep, go ahead, right.

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Speaker 4: The AI data centers they pay nothing for the infrastructure

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Speaker 2: So okay, so you know a lot about this. Just

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Speaker 4: Your delivery charge? Yep, that was some twenty to thirty

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Speaker 2: So how how did they? How did they connect that?

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Speaker 4: How no, they they own the infrastructure they.

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Speaker 4: But the deal is with the data centers. The infrastructure

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Speaker 2: Or a Jeff who authorized that.

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Speaker 4: That would kind of sort of be, you know, like

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Speaker 2: Do me a favorite, Jeff, you know a lot more

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Speaker 2: If you get me some information on that, I'll have

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Speaker 2: Red Sox tickets. I'd say, what's the relationship? I mean

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Speaker 2: Some sort of regulatory agency must have approved that, Jeff,

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Speaker 2: I'm smart enough to know that. So if you do

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Speaker 4: Okay, okay, And I can tell you who authorized it

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Speaker 2: Well, let's we'll try to figure it out. Hang on there.

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Speaker 2: Rob will give you my direct line. Feel free to

438
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Speaker 2: give me a call. Got to take a break. Here's

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Speaker 2: the news at the bottom of the hour. I have

440
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Speaker 2: two lines at six one, seven, nine thirty. I have

441
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Speaker 2: one line at six one, seven, two, five, four, ten thirty.

442
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Speaker 2: I'll have a couple there in a moment. Please do

443
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Speaker 2: me a favor and don't be calling at five minutes

444
00:24:58,040 --> 00:25:00,320
Speaker 2: of midnight tonight because you're not going to get on

445
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Speaker 2: call now. I want to know if you're happy with

446
00:25:03,040 --> 00:25:07,120
Speaker 2: your utility bills here in Massachusetts or wherever you live.

447
00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:10,800
Speaker 2: My goldilocks question. Do you feel the bills are too high,

448
00:25:11,560 --> 00:25:14,800
Speaker 2: too small, or just right? Coming back on night Side.

449
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Speaker 1: From Night Side with Dan Ray on Boston's news radio.

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Speaker 2: I'm just looking at my own energy bills, and again

451
00:25:29,320 --> 00:25:33,560
Speaker 2: I think all of us, me included, have been derelict

452
00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:37,600
Speaker 2: in not looking at our energy bills more closely. So

453
00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:46,840
Speaker 2: you're looking at a minimum charge, a delivery peak charge,

454
00:25:47,520 --> 00:25:52,560
Speaker 2: a distribution adjustment energy efficiency, whatever the heck that is,

455
00:25:53,080 --> 00:25:58,880
Speaker 2: and a distribution adjustment other was that and that doesn't

456
00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:04,520
Speaker 2: that does include Those are just delivery services. That doesn't

457
00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:10,200
Speaker 2: include supply charges. I mean this, the more you look about.

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Speaker 2: I don't know how many of you have taken out

459
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Speaker 2: your energy bills as we've talked about this tonight, but

460
00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:19,600
Speaker 2: we should be outraged. And I don't get a sense

461
00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:22,400
Speaker 2: of outrage. I get a sense if people are confused.

462
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Speaker 2: Six one, seven, two, five, four to ten thirty six

463
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Speaker 2: one seven, nine three one ten thirty. It is just

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Speaker 2: amazing to me when you look at I'm looking at

465
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Speaker 2: my ever source bill, which again I'm sure yours is

466
00:26:38,119 --> 00:26:47,120
Speaker 2: pretty similar. There's a customer charge, okay, there's a distribution charge.

467
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Speaker 2: There's a second distribution charge. There's a transition charge, there's

468
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Speaker 2: a second transition charge. There's a transmission charge and a

469
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Speaker 2: second transmission charge. There's a new meter recovery charge and

470
00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:03,680
Speaker 2: a and a second new media all of these charges

471
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Speaker 2: are doubled. I'm just noticing this for the first time.

472
00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:11,520
Speaker 2: There's a revenue decoupling charge, and another revenue decoupling charge.

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Speaker 2: There's a distributed solar charge. Distributed solar charge not a

474
00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:20,680
Speaker 2: lot of money, but when you add them all up,

475
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Speaker 2: that runs into real money. There's a generation service charge.

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Speaker 2: They I mean, can you imagine if you've got a

477
00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:34,040
Speaker 2: bill like this at a restaurant. I want to hear

478
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Speaker 2: from you. Are your energy bills too high?

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Speaker 7: Uh?

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Speaker 2: Too little? Too small? Or just right? Six seven, triple

481
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Speaker 2: eight ninety? Satchi and Saga say, Satchi, how are you tonight?

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Speaker 8: I'm not bad, then, it's all this great talking to you.

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Speaker 8: I just want to say that I usually do not

484
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Speaker 8: look at the bill. Yeah, gets period. However, and a

485
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Speaker 8: few months, like a year ago or to one of

486
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Speaker 8: my friend owns multiple you know, family house or three

487
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Speaker 8: family houses, and he have four meters because he uses

488
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Speaker 8: for the hallway and so on. He was paying for

489
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Speaker 8: the money and delivery charge and all those things, and

490
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Speaker 8: I said, why do you want to have this quote meter?

491
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Speaker 8: Why don't you pay for it? You know, it's like

492
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Speaker 8: from the house your apartment bill, you know, like the

493
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Speaker 8: first floor, and I took it out and I have

494
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Speaker 8: him call and said move it over. So it does

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Speaker 8: no delivery charge all those things. He is saving about

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Speaker 8: eighty dollars a month.

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Speaker 2: Well, well that's he's probably one of the few people

498
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Speaker 2: who were saving money. Satuy, I save him a lot

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Speaker 2: of money.

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Speaker 8: He's up in his eighties.

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Speaker 2: Good for you. That's a very kind thing you did.

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Speaker 8: And the second thing is there are a lot of

503
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Speaker 8: people out there that they used the medical condition. As

504
00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:23,400
Speaker 8: you know, you could go to the doctor and say,

505
00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:28,479
Speaker 8: oh my son, no whoever saying that they need to

506
00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:33,360
Speaker 8: nibilize the treatment because they couldn't breathe, I have a

507
00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:37,000
Speaker 8: problem breathing. You had to use the machine. And you

508
00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:41,280
Speaker 8: could get a letter and send it to them. What

509
00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:47,960
Speaker 8: do you call a natural gride? And they were not disconnected.

510
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Speaker 8: Just keep on building it. And one of another friend

511
00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:57,720
Speaker 8: who is making a lot of money, he owes over

512
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Speaker 8: ninety thousand dollars because they the thing is that they

513
00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:09,800
Speaker 8: cannot disconnect it. So they just connected every few months,

514
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Speaker 8: three months or so, he gets something nature and guess what,

515
00:30:16,160 --> 00:30:21,560
Speaker 8: there's nobody using the blight's a treatment or nothing. Well,

516
00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:27,640
Speaker 8: you know, so there's a lot of waste around.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, this is getting and this is getting scary, Sagy.

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Speaker 8: I totally agree with you. Okay, So you know, I

519
00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:40,480
Speaker 8: learned every single day something new. I listen to you

520
00:30:40,600 --> 00:30:45,200
Speaker 8: every single pretty much every day, and I learned something new.

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Speaker 2: Well, I've learned a lot. I've learned a lot tonight

522
00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:50,760
Speaker 2: from you, and I've learned a lot tonight from the

523
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Speaker 2: customers who have called in and.

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Speaker 8: And I just want to give you two more two

525
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Speaker 8: more small.

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Speaker 4: Small thing, okay.

527
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Speaker 8: Is one of the things is the analog meter that

528
00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:10,160
Speaker 8: it rotates, you know, the meta that it rotates.

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00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:13,880
Speaker 2: Like yeah, yeah, yeah, it spins around, spins around that one.

530
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Speaker 8: And you could fix that one.

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Speaker 4: Okay.

532
00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:20,880
Speaker 8: All you need is screw driver and cut the thing

533
00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:24,240
Speaker 8: and the secret titan and the meter will run slow.

534
00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:27,560
Speaker 2: Such. I don't know we want to talk about that

535
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Speaker 2: on the radio, because I totally agree that might be like,

536
00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:33,840
Speaker 2: let's say that for a private We don't want to

537
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Speaker 2: say anything in the radio that might be construed as

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Speaker 2: being illegal. Okay.

539
00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:40,960
Speaker 8: Yeah, a lot of people talking about putting a magnet

540
00:31:41,080 --> 00:31:42,640
Speaker 8: in front of it, and oh my.

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Speaker 2: God, oh my god, Sad, I got a skewed It's

542
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Speaker 2: always great to hear your voice. One of my favorite.

543
00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:51,640
Speaker 8: You are the one of the best. Okay. I listened

544
00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:55,600
Speaker 8: to you every single day and you are the best.

545
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Speaker 2: Okay.

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00:31:57,960 --> 00:31:59,680
Speaker 8: Yeah, and balanced.

547
00:31:59,840 --> 00:32:00,920
Speaker 2: I appreciate that.

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00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:03,520
Speaker 8: Real that's the most important.

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00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:07,600
Speaker 2: Thank you, Thank you, my friend. Happy happy new year.

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Speaker 2: Let us talk often in twenty twenty six, my friend,

551
00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:14,280
Speaker 2: thank you. Thanks great night. All right, we're gonna take

552
00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:16,520
Speaker 2: a quick break. Everybody in the line. I will get

553
00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:19,240
Speaker 2: you in John and New York, Sandra and Saugust, Angelo

554
00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:22,520
Speaker 2: and Newton. If you want to try, I can't guarantee you. Uh.

555
00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:25,400
Speaker 2: The only line open is six one, seven, two thirty

556
00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:26,160
Speaker 2: back on night Side.

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Speaker 1: Right after this, you're on night Side with Dan Ray

558
00:32:30,320 --> 00:32:32,960
Speaker 1: on Boston's news radio.

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Speaker 2: All right, let's keep rolling here. We're gonna get everybody in.

560
00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:38,240
Speaker 2: I promise you got to pick it up just a

561
00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:40,840
Speaker 2: little bit. Sandra in Saugust, Sandra, you were next one nights.

562
00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:41,560
Speaker 2: I go right ahead.

563
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Speaker 6: Hid how you doing tonight?

564
00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:45,320
Speaker 2: I'm doing fine?

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Speaker 4: You.

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Speaker 2: Uh. How's your bill? It gets too much? A little

567
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Speaker 2: or just right?

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Speaker 6: I think the bills are outrageous. Yeah, more of my

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Speaker 6: electricity and I and I have called my clu lash

570
00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:03,560
Speaker 6: here and I got the breakdown. Well, all those line items,

571
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Speaker 6: all the infrastructure, and and like somebody said, it's the

572
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Speaker 6: solo pianos, it's the eavy all stuff that I don't

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Speaker 6: have on my house. But I just want to say

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Speaker 6: that I think that the governor was very disingenuous tonight.

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Speaker 6: I only watched it for a little bit when she

576
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Speaker 6: was talking about the utility bills, and you know, she's

577
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Speaker 6: saying that she's gonna she they're going to decrease some

578
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Speaker 6: by you know, twenty five and ten percent over the

579
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Speaker 6: next couple of months. But all they're doing is basically

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Speaker 6: putting me on a payment plan, you know. So yeah,

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Speaker 6: I'm going to get a break next month and the

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Speaker 6: month after, but then I'm going to pay more than

583
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Speaker 6: I normally would in the summer months. So, you know,

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Speaker 6: her making it sounds like she's doing something big for us.

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Speaker 8: She's not.

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Speaker 6: She's doing it's.

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Speaker 2: Pretty clear it's a deferral. That's it's a deferral. You

588
00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:05,000
Speaker 2: either pay now or you pay later.

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Speaker 6: That's right, that's right. But she didn't say that. She

590
00:34:09,520 --> 00:34:11,520
Speaker 6: just said there's going to be a break on the

591
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Speaker 6: bill twenty five percent for the.

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Speaker 8: Next two months.

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Speaker 6: She didn't explain that you're going to pay for it later.

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Speaker 6: You know, I read that online myself, but she didn't

595
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Speaker 6: say that. She just everyone's home clapping and all the

596
00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:27,920
Speaker 6: people up in the place there, we're all standing up

597
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Speaker 6: or we're sharing.

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Speaker 8: You know, oh yeah deal, oh yeah.

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Speaker 2: All.

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Speaker 8: So she was.

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Speaker 6: Very disingenuous about that. And you know, I understand what

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Speaker 6: you said that all of this was in play long

603
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Speaker 6: before she was the governor and all these changes were happening.

604
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Speaker 6: But she's all on board with this. Ye, we didn't

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Speaker 6: do anything last year, and you brought it up.

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Speaker 2: You know, you can exercise your vote next November. It's

607
00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:58,239
Speaker 2: as simple as that. But right, be careful, make sure

608
00:34:58,280 --> 00:35:00,359
Speaker 2: that you find someone is going to do a better job,

609
00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:01,560
Speaker 2: simple as that.

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Speaker 4: Right.

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00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:06,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's frustrating, and it's frustrating. We're a smart state,

612
00:35:06,719 --> 00:35:11,319
Speaker 2: and we are We're being taken to the cleaners collectively,

613
00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:14,080
Speaker 2: and a lot of us, a lot of us are

614
00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:17,560
Speaker 2: trying to raise the alarm. I couldn't talked tonight about

615
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Speaker 2: getting ready for the storm. You're going to buy a shovel,

616
00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:23,360
Speaker 2: I mean, but I wanted to try to get information

617
00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:26,680
Speaker 2: out to people, and I'm forcing I'm horry. I'm encouraging

618
00:35:26,719 --> 00:35:28,480
Speaker 2: people to take a look at their bills, right.

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Speaker 6: And just one other quick thing I want to add.

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Speaker 6: The other day, you know they have the Secretary of

621
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Speaker 6: the Interiortor, Doug Bergham, was being interviewed yep, and you

622
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Speaker 6: know he's talking about everything that's being done in the

623
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Speaker 6: country with energy, lowering the cost of electricity and so forth.

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Speaker 6: And one of the things she said was, if you

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Speaker 6: live in a blue state, primarily we are not feeling

626
00:35:55,400 --> 00:36:01,319
Speaker 6: the decrease in anything because of the policies that we have.

627
00:36:01,719 --> 00:36:05,319
Speaker 6: And it's exactly how it is in Massachusetts. The policies

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00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:09,640
Speaker 6: were all about the green energy. Yes, and we're all paying.

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Speaker 2: So he's right in you and you were right, Sandra.

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Speaker 2: I got two more I want to try.

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Speaker 6: I understandsiated very much.

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Speaker 2: Okay, let me go to John in New York. John,

633
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Speaker 2: we're a little tight on time. I got room for

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Speaker 2: you and room for Angela.

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Speaker 4: Go ahead, John, Yes, good evening, Dan. Yeah.

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Speaker 9: The only people that love National Grid of the people

637
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Speaker 9: who work for them.

638
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Speaker 4: Why let your film?

639
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Speaker 9: Okay, why I let you fill? This month was eight

640
00:36:38,080 --> 00:36:41,840
Speaker 9: hundred and fifty dollars, but my payment's four heart and

641
00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:43,759
Speaker 9: too because they have me on the budget place.

642
00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:46,440
Speaker 2: You know that deferred stuff you yeah, yeah, so so

643
00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:50,640
Speaker 2: so instead of having a really inexpensive plan in the summer,

644
00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:53,920
Speaker 2: it balances off. Okay, I mean that's nice for people

645
00:36:54,120 --> 00:36:56,319
Speaker 2: who want to pay a balance. Do you have to

646
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Speaker 2: pay interest for the for the for the deferral or

647
00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:01,359
Speaker 2: do they just split it up?

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Speaker 9: They claim no, So I don't see any interest charge,

649
00:37:05,719 --> 00:37:07,640
Speaker 9: and they told me there would be none, so I'm

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00:37:07,719 --> 00:37:08,920
Speaker 9: keeping my eye on it.

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00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:09,280
Speaker 2: Okay.

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Speaker 9: Thing is, I had a supplier for two years of

653
00:37:12,719 --> 00:37:15,080
Speaker 9: contract that paid about eight cents to kill a one

654
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Speaker 9: hour for it, but once on an end and that

655
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Speaker 9: supplier can only renew it for sixteen that's double. So

656
00:37:20,239 --> 00:37:23,319
Speaker 9: I said, all right then, So what happened was the

657
00:37:23,320 --> 00:37:26,640
Speaker 9: fact I did nothing with it. National Grid became the supplier.

658
00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:29,200
Speaker 9: So the first month that I had it, when they

659
00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:31,719
Speaker 9: took it over, it was twelve cents. Now on the

660
00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:34,319
Speaker 9: next bill it was eighteen. Because it's variable. See the

661
00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:35,360
Speaker 9: game they play.

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00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:37,800
Speaker 2: You got it, yep, you got it. It's like the baitons.

663
00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:39,520
Speaker 2: It's called that's called bait and switch.

664
00:37:40,920 --> 00:37:45,560
Speaker 9: Yeah, it's they are pulling the roll over everybody's eyes.

665
00:37:45,600 --> 00:37:48,040
Speaker 9: That in their customers so far that it's going to

666
00:37:48,120 --> 00:37:49,560
Speaker 9: be the point that you're not going to be able

667
00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:50,120
Speaker 9: to breathe.

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00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:52,759
Speaker 2: Well, that's why we're talking about it tonight, and that's

669
00:37:52,760 --> 00:37:55,799
Speaker 2: why we'll talk about it more. John, I got one more.

670
00:37:55,840 --> 00:37:56,640
Speaker 2: I got a king.

671
00:37:57,480 --> 00:37:58,440
Speaker 9: Yes, I understand.

672
00:37:58,480 --> 00:37:59,120
Speaker 4: Have a good night.

673
00:37:59,200 --> 00:38:01,080
Speaker 9: Thanks for having me able to talk to you later.

674
00:38:01,640 --> 00:38:04,440
Speaker 2: And drive carefully with the snow this weekend. I know

675
00:38:04,520 --> 00:38:06,880
Speaker 2: that you sometimes are in the car. Please take it careful.

676
00:38:06,880 --> 00:38:10,240
Speaker 9: Okay, Yeah, I'm in the car now pulling in the driveway.

677
00:38:10,239 --> 00:38:11,360
Speaker 9: You have a good night there.

678
00:38:11,200 --> 00:38:14,160
Speaker 2: Thanks Pal, Thank you, John, appreciate it. Okay, maybe last

679
00:38:14,160 --> 00:38:17,600
Speaker 2: of the night. Angelo and Newton. Angelo talk to us.

680
00:38:17,600 --> 00:38:18,440
Speaker 2: How are you Angelo?

681
00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:20,120
Speaker 1: Good?

682
00:38:20,239 --> 00:38:20,520
Speaker 3: Then?

683
00:38:20,560 --> 00:38:20,799
Speaker 2: Ray?

684
00:38:20,920 --> 00:38:24,360
Speaker 7: I just having some health issues, but I think it's okay.

685
00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:24,879
Speaker 3: How you been.

686
00:38:24,920 --> 00:38:25,920
Speaker 7: Happy new Year to you.

687
00:38:26,280 --> 00:38:28,440
Speaker 2: Happy new Year to you as well. I hope that

688
00:38:28,480 --> 00:38:32,480
Speaker 2: the health issues are under control or will eventually they

689
00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:33,680
Speaker 2: are good?

690
00:38:33,880 --> 00:38:36,960
Speaker 7: They are. Guess whose as we get older doesn't get better?

691
00:38:37,040 --> 00:38:37,799
Speaker 7: What are we gonna do?

692
00:38:38,040 --> 00:38:41,040
Speaker 2: Well? This this getting old stuff is way overrated as

693
00:38:41,080 --> 00:38:44,160
Speaker 2: far as I'm concerned. You know, I mean, everybody talks

694
00:38:44,160 --> 00:38:45,960
Speaker 2: about the Golden years.

695
00:38:46,680 --> 00:38:47,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's right.

696
00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:50,839
Speaker 7: When the Golden years a good year, but nada. They're

697
00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:52,880
Speaker 7: getting worse and worse and not getting any better.

698
00:38:54,280 --> 00:38:58,600
Speaker 2: How how how how are your bills? Are your bills

699
00:38:58,640 --> 00:38:59,120
Speaker 2: too high?

700
00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:00,640
Speaker 3: Yeah?

701
00:39:00,920 --> 00:39:01,919
Speaker 4: Very high.

702
00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:04,560
Speaker 7: My supply is sixty six dollars and eight cents and

703
00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:07,520
Speaker 7: my delivery is ninety feet dollars and seventy sevens then

704
00:39:07,880 --> 00:39:09,960
Speaker 7: and I ended up with a bill under fifty nine

705
00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:10,520
Speaker 7: eighty five.

706
00:39:11,600 --> 00:39:13,640
Speaker 2: Well, Angelo, I gotta tell you, are you in a

707
00:39:13,680 --> 00:39:14,920
Speaker 2: house or you in an apartment?

708
00:39:16,160 --> 00:39:16,319
Speaker 6: HU?

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00:39:17,360 --> 00:39:20,279
Speaker 2: One f eighty five isn't bad. I'll trade bills with

710
00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:21,320
Speaker 2: you any day of the week.

711
00:39:21,360 --> 00:39:27,799
Speaker 10: Okay, yeah, yeah, but it's still sometimes it's really high,

712
00:39:27,840 --> 00:39:30,040
Speaker 10: and they try to they try to send me, uh,

713
00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:33,160
Speaker 10: send me the solo pianos.

714
00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:33,680
Speaker 7: And put them on the roof.

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00:39:33,880 --> 00:39:34,080
Speaker 2: Yeah.

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00:39:34,080 --> 00:39:35,880
Speaker 7: And they were telling me that I'd save a lomo

717
00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:39,560
Speaker 7: electricity on my bill. I don't know how true that.

718
00:39:39,600 --> 00:39:43,160
Speaker 2: Is, Angelo, I would be very very careful of that.

719
00:39:43,400 --> 00:39:46,920
Speaker 2: I really would be. Trust me on that. I don't know.

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00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:49,520
Speaker 2: If you haven't any neighbors who know a lot about

721
00:39:49,680 --> 00:39:52,920
Speaker 2: you know that stuff, But don't buy that stuff unless

722
00:39:53,080 --> 00:39:56,520
Speaker 2: you have consulted with some people who have it, uh,

723
00:39:56,680 --> 00:39:59,839
Speaker 2: and have that company say to you, say to the company. Well,

724
00:39:59,840 --> 00:40:02,640
Speaker 2: who who else have you worked within my neighborhood? Who

725
00:40:02,719 --> 00:40:05,240
Speaker 2: I would know and I can talk to? That's so critical.

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00:40:06,280 --> 00:40:09,359
Speaker 7: Yeah, and I heard some people telling me I may

727
00:40:09,440 --> 00:40:11,920
Speaker 7: but he had put on his house and he says

728
00:40:12,120 --> 00:40:13,759
Speaker 7: he does a paper and he does a pay for

729
00:40:13,800 --> 00:40:16,840
Speaker 7: no electricity at all. Well I was told, yeah, he

730
00:40:16,880 --> 00:40:18,719
Speaker 7: has a pay for you, but you get shot for

731
00:40:18,800 --> 00:40:20,359
Speaker 7: those pms put on your roof.

732
00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:21,239
Speaker 3: Who pays for that?

733
00:40:21,480 --> 00:40:23,719
Speaker 2: Well you'll get out. Yeah, you got to figure it

734
00:40:23,719 --> 00:40:26,680
Speaker 2: out before you do it. Angelo, I'm flat out of time. Yeah,

735
00:40:26,680 --> 00:40:28,320
Speaker 2: I got you in, but you got a call early.

736
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Speaker 2: We'll chat longer. Okay, thank you, my friend. I have

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00:40:30,400 --> 00:40:31,400
Speaker 2: a good one, Happy New Year.

738
00:40:31,400 --> 00:40:34,319
Speaker 7: Okay, Santy, you take it for taking my call.

739
00:40:34,360 --> 00:40:35,360
Speaker 3: You have a good eating.

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00:40:35,080 --> 00:40:37,600
Speaker 2: Bummy to sir. Good night. Done for the night, Rob,

741
00:40:37,680 --> 00:40:40,080
Speaker 2: great job, Maria, thank you for your help today. I'm

742
00:40:40,080 --> 00:40:42,080
Speaker 2: back tomorrow night. I'm also going to be here Sunday

743
00:40:42,160 --> 00:40:45,080
Speaker 2: night from nine until twelve in the midst of the snowstorm.

744
00:40:45,600 --> 00:40:49,200
Speaker 2: Jordan Rich comes in next Tuesday at nine o'clock. That'll

745
00:40:49,200 --> 00:40:51,360
Speaker 2: be great and I will end is always going to

746
00:40:51,440 --> 00:40:53,719
Speaker 2: be on Facebook real quickly in about two minutes. Night

747
00:40:53,760 --> 00:40:55,800
Speaker 2: Side with Dan Ray, all dogs, all cats, all pets

748
00:40:55,840 --> 00:40:58,279
Speaker 2: go to heaven. That's where my pell, Charlie Ray is

749
00:40:58,280 --> 00:41:01,040
Speaker 2: who passed fifteen years ago in February. That's where all

750
00:41:01,080 --> 00:41:02,920
Speaker 2: your pets are who were passed. They loved you, and

751
00:41:03,360 --> 00:41:06,759
Speaker 2: actually it's sixteen years ago in February. That's where they

752
00:41:06,760 --> 00:41:08,960
Speaker 2: are that they loved you, You love them. I do

753
00:41:09,040 --> 00:41:10,360
Speaker 2: believe you'll see them again. We'll see you in the

754
00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:12,200
Speaker 2: morning at nights. I'd see you on Facebook in about

755
00:41:12,200 --> 00:41:13,400
Speaker 2: a couple of minutes. Thanks everybody.