WEBVTT - 10/17/25 - Bengals Pep Rally 0:00:00.200 --> 0:00:04.160 This is Bengals pemp Rally presented by just bearn Chicken 0:00:04.400 --> 0:00:06.000 on the Bengals Radio Network. 0:00:06.240 --> 0:00:06.680 Paycore. 0:00:07.120 --> 0:00:10.760 Paycore is proud to be the official HR software provider 0:00:10.920 --> 0:00:15.240 of the Cincinnati Bengals. Kettering Health, Best Care for the 0:00:15.280 --> 0:00:20.600 Best Fans. Kettering Health, Official healthcare provider of the Cincinnati Bengals. 0:00:20.840 --> 0:00:26.000 This is ESPN fifteen thirty, the official home of the 0:00:26.000 --> 0:00:27.200 Cincinnati Bengals. 0:00:28.880 --> 0:00:31.440 Good afternoon, and welcome to the Bengals pep Rallies Show 0:00:31.520 --> 0:00:35.519 presented by Bear Chicken Live on ESPN fifteen thirty on 0:00:35.600 --> 0:00:39.600 the Bengals Radio Network. I think by now everyone has 0:00:39.680 --> 0:00:44.480 caught their breath, reloaded and calibrated, the fibrillators are back 0:00:44.520 --> 0:00:48.919 in the positions, and all good. Dave Lapham a prime 0:00:49.080 --> 0:00:54.520 time wide out game. It was an amazing display of 0:00:54.560 --> 0:00:58.960 football by two gentlemen who should by now be getting. 0:00:58.640 --> 0:01:01.280 A call from their agency. We just secured the icy 0:01:01.320 --> 0:01:01.880 hot deal. 0:01:03.760 --> 0:01:08.160 I'll tell you it was. It was a help. It 0:01:08.240 --> 0:01:10.360 was a hell of a football games, There's no question 0:01:10.400 --> 0:01:15.080 about it. I mean, you got two quarterbacks over forty 0:01:15.200 --> 0:01:17.520 years old, both of them, and they put on a 0:01:17.520 --> 0:01:25.280 show offensive display. Thirty three thirty one unbelievable. Who would 0:01:25.319 --> 0:01:28.200 have ever thought that the Bengals and Steelers would score 0:01:28.240 --> 0:01:31.760 sixty four points? I mean, I know I didn't would 0:01:31.959 --> 0:01:34.520 I wouldn't have thought that before the season started. That, Yeah, 0:01:34.560 --> 0:01:37.200 when Pittsburgh comes to Cincinnati, I'm going to put sixty 0:01:37.200 --> 0:01:40.200 four on the board. Not with that Pittsburgh Steeler defense, 0:01:40.800 --> 0:01:44.000 I mean the reputation that the Pittsburgh Steelers have to 0:01:44.080 --> 0:01:47.440 play a high level of defensive football, a great brand 0:01:47.480 --> 0:01:51.040 of defensive football. To hang, you know, thirty three points 0:01:51.080 --> 0:01:54.720 on them is an unbelievable. 0:01:53.880 --> 0:01:56.680 Accomplishment, There's no question about it. I think one of 0:01:56.720 --> 0:02:00.880 the owner alert owner alert only. 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And then in 0:02:34.440 --> 0:02:37.080 the third hour, we'll have Bengo defensive lineman TJ. 0:02:37.200 --> 0:02:38.200 Slayton in the building. 0:02:38.760 --> 0:02:41.240 He's gonna hang out with us, which we appreciate. But 0:02:41.280 --> 0:02:43.400 we got a lot to get into. We got fantastic 0:02:43.440 --> 0:02:46.239 fun facts, We got an interview. I wanted to share 0:02:46.280 --> 0:02:48.919 the interview I did with Peter Ganshirt, who's with the 0:02:49.320 --> 0:02:53.079 NFL calls them wellness clinicians, but dealing with players and 0:02:53.160 --> 0:02:54.959 mental health, which has become much. 0:02:54.760 --> 0:02:56.799 More of a bigger deal and an open thing. 0:02:56.800 --> 0:03:00.639 People are understanding to talk about mental health in that capacity. Right, 0:03:01.120 --> 0:03:03.480 we're gonna kick this show off and go to the presser. 0:03:04.280 --> 0:03:06.960 Zach Taylor met with the media today and we'll share 0:03:06.960 --> 0:03:07.960 that with you right now. 0:03:11.360 --> 0:03:13.080 So to be tune over the division right in the 0:03:13.080 --> 0:03:16.239 thick of everything that we've been talking about. With another 0:03:16.280 --> 0:03:18.919 home game coming up, chance to get healthy this next 0:03:18.960 --> 0:03:21.080 couple of days. Really really just proud of the guys 0:03:21.080 --> 0:03:29.720 in the effort and happy to get a win. Outstanding, outstanding, outstanding, Yeah, Joe, 0:03:29.760 --> 0:03:32.120 I mean it was outstanding. Really, I mean, we're we're 0:03:32.960 --> 0:03:34.800 I mean we how many drive we scored on what 0:03:34.960 --> 0:03:36.880 like six of the last seven drives, maybe seven and 0:03:36.880 --> 0:03:40.760 the last eight seven of eight, okay, so and really 0:03:40.760 --> 0:03:43.000 early on we had some some drops and some quirky 0:03:43.000 --> 0:03:46.480 stuff happened that prevented a score there. So I just 0:03:46.520 --> 0:03:50.800 thought his performance outstanding, very very calm, collected, uh let 0:03:50.840 --> 0:03:52.320 us in a two minute drive to go win the 0:03:52.320 --> 0:03:54.600 game with a huge go ball to t get there's 0:03:54.600 --> 0:03:57.960 guys a chance to go make some plays. And impressed 0:03:57.960 --> 0:04:00.520 this performance. I thought our offensive line played outstanding. I 0:04:00.520 --> 0:04:03.000 mean that defensive line has been wreaking havoc the last 0:04:03.040 --> 0:04:04.640 couple of weeks and all the film we've watched, all 0:04:04.640 --> 0:04:06.480 these other teams and all the lion gave him a 0:04:06.520 --> 0:04:09.320 great shot. Our tight ends did an unbelievable job in 0:04:09.320 --> 0:04:12.520 the run game as well, and everybody stepped out for C. 0:04:12.640 --> 0:04:15.480 Margs after the catch. So just just collectively on offense 0:04:15.520 --> 0:04:17.240 it was great. And the defense getting at h. 0:04:19.040 --> 0:04:20.920 So to be too. And over the division right now. 0:04:21.440 --> 0:04:25.720 What stood out to you about Joe's didn't see them all. 0:04:27.920 --> 0:04:30.960 There was very few issues there, you know, in terms 0:04:31.000 --> 0:04:35.960 of throwing the ball. He was accurate, decisive and all 0:04:35.960 --> 0:04:38.800 the things I said about the protection held up, the 0:04:38.839 --> 0:04:42.479 guys doing their job and the routes. So again it 0:04:42.520 --> 0:04:46.760 was just really efficient performance and and keep building on it. 0:04:47.680 --> 0:04:49.720 What is camp Till with Brittany to do to kind 0:04:49.720 --> 0:04:50.840 of get himself. 0:04:50.520 --> 0:04:54.120 Back into just be consistent, you know, consistency week to week, 0:04:54.240 --> 0:04:56.000 day to day. It's the biggest thing. 0:04:57.560 --> 0:04:57.840 For him. 0:04:57.920 --> 0:05:04.440 So of course talented, high energy wants to do right. 0:05:04.839 --> 0:05:06.280 Just keep working at it. 0:05:06.960 --> 0:05:11.000 You obviously the route margin because of injury whatever else, 0:05:11.800 --> 0:05:14.400 you found the right room. 0:05:14.839 --> 0:05:17.200 I think as of right now, we'll we'll just keep 0:05:17.200 --> 0:05:19.440 working through it. But a lot of guys we know 0:05:19.440 --> 0:05:22.640 we can rely on. That's that's critical. Young guys that 0:05:22.680 --> 0:05:26.120 are sending veteran guys who we can depend on, and 0:05:26.160 --> 0:05:27.279 that's that's really good to have. 0:05:29.240 --> 0:05:31.640 Zach. Do you do you feel like it's positive for 0:05:31.720 --> 0:05:35.279 Trey Hendrickson. Is the long break here before the next game. 0:05:35.520 --> 0:05:38.880 Yeah, he was pushing to play yesterday, so I can't 0:05:38.920 --> 0:05:41.279 speak on that today, but I'd have to feel, you know, 0:05:41.360 --> 0:05:44.120 at least reasonably optimistic given that he was he was 0:05:44.120 --> 0:05:45.120 pushing to play yesterday. 0:05:46.400 --> 0:05:48.520 Black was talking about how like some of the plays, 0:05:48.600 --> 0:05:50.960 not the plays, but like simple like you know, thirdly 0:05:51.000 --> 0:05:51.720 octed your market. 0:05:51.800 --> 0:05:52.640 Look the ball to tea. 0:05:53.080 --> 0:05:55.120 How much do you see kind of the playmakers shine 0:05:55.200 --> 0:05:57.479 as as flackho kind of taste what's there? 0:05:58.040 --> 0:06:01.200 Yeah, And that's really always what we've hat on. It's, 0:06:01.240 --> 0:06:02.760 you know, just trying to find ways to get those 0:06:02.760 --> 0:06:05.880 guys at the ball. I think of Jamar's fifteen catches 0:06:05.880 --> 0:06:08.560 against Arizona was very similar. You know a lot of 0:06:08.560 --> 0:06:10.240 those were quick hitters, just trying to get the ball 0:06:10.240 --> 0:06:12.080 in his hands because you were getting some access there. 0:06:12.080 --> 0:06:14.720 And so yesterday was definitely a great example of that. 0:06:15.680 --> 0:06:17.360 I haven't talied them up yet, but there was. There 0:06:17.400 --> 0:06:21.160 was probably five to seven throws in the run game 0:06:21.360 --> 0:06:24.840 that we took. And anytime you're getting that, that's not 0:06:24.960 --> 0:06:27.520 a protection call for the lineman. They're blocking and run, 0:06:27.600 --> 0:06:30.560 so they get to come off. And usually you're throwing 0:06:30.560 --> 0:06:32.240 it because it's the best look you can get, so 0:06:32.360 --> 0:06:35.240 you should be getting a completion, and oftentimes when you're 0:06:35.240 --> 0:06:38.960 compleating it, you're getting Jamorrow one on one, which sooner 0:06:39.040 --> 0:06:41.000 or later that thing's going to break for a sixty 0:06:41.080 --> 0:06:43.280 yard game instead of sometimes a seven or eight yard game. 0:06:43.400 --> 0:06:46.760 So it's just a really really effective way to live 0:06:46.800 --> 0:06:49.440 and we'll try to continue to build off that we've 0:06:49.440 --> 0:06:49.960 always had it. 0:06:50.000 --> 0:06:51.479 We'll continue to build off of it as we go. 0:06:51.760 --> 0:06:53.479 And then maybe the biggest s trinkle of all time 0:06:53.520 --> 0:06:57.200 here was have beleave three straight dropbacks out of under center. 0:06:57.640 --> 0:07:00.200 Yeah, was that something that Flack alked well. 0:07:00.920 --> 0:07:03.920 Pitch had that recommendation. Pitch had seen some stuff. 0:07:05.480 --> 0:07:09.520 Going back against Pittsburgh previously that he thought would fit 0:07:09.560 --> 0:07:12.360 well on the plan, And so initially we had like 0:07:12.400 --> 0:07:15.200 an eight play package and then middled it down to three. 0:07:15.040 --> 0:07:17.840 We added another one. We had four total that we carried. 0:07:19.160 --> 0:07:19.600 They were good. 0:07:19.680 --> 0:07:21.520 It's it's some of them we had to check out of, 0:07:21.800 --> 0:07:24.400 you know, and sometimes that's gonna happen. But it was 0:07:24.440 --> 0:07:26.320 effective for us. The way that they tried to combat 0:07:26.360 --> 0:07:28.000 some of that stuff. We thought it would be effective 0:07:28.000 --> 0:07:29.880 for us. And whether we continue to build out or 0:07:29.920 --> 0:07:32.120 not and may be seen depending on our future opponents. 0:07:32.440 --> 0:07:35.120 Did the tape show you up the Barrett and Demetrios. 0:07:35.960 --> 0:07:38.600 Yeah, there's positives and there's thing to continue to learn from. 0:07:38.680 --> 0:07:41.280 And it's you know, I'm thinking, I don't know how 0:07:41.280 --> 0:07:43.240 many games Aaron Rodgers has played in, but as I'm 0:07:43.240 --> 0:07:45.720 watching the tape, it's you know, he's probably in the 0:07:45.840 --> 0:07:48.880 two thirties to two fifties in terms of amount of 0:07:48.920 --> 0:07:51.560 games he's played in his life. And I'm looking at 0:07:51.600 --> 0:07:54.680 two linebackers and Shamar playing in his real third game, 0:07:54.760 --> 0:08:00.080 second and half game. Almost they're playing games you know, six, five, three, And. 0:08:01.080 --> 0:08:03.440 Some of the things that that Rogers does really stress you. 0:08:03.520 --> 0:08:05.120 He tries to get you in a look and then 0:08:05.120 --> 0:08:06.960 he'd likes to check the play, and he's in the huddle, 0:08:06.960 --> 0:08:08.800 he's in tempo, and so it causes a lot of stress. 0:08:08.800 --> 0:08:11.239 And so there's a lot for these guys to learn from. 0:08:11.320 --> 0:08:13.800 They're going to continue to ascend and learn as they 0:08:13.800 --> 0:08:16.160 accumulate reps and they get to game seven and eight 0:08:16.240 --> 0:08:18.880 and nine. Someday they'll get to two fifty. Hopefully that'd 0:08:18.880 --> 0:08:22.640 be amazing. Uh, But it's just it's it's we're getting 0:08:22.680 --> 0:08:24.600 gain a lot from them getting this experience, and they're 0:08:24.600 --> 0:08:27.160 going to continue to get better every week. And I'm 0:08:27.200 --> 0:08:30.040 really pleased with the way that they approach everything, and 0:08:30.040 --> 0:08:31.760 they're just going to keep learning and keep getting better. 0:08:32.240 --> 0:08:34.679 Talk a lot about Mary to Run in the past, 0:08:34.960 --> 0:08:38.240 and it starts working last night. Yeah, the obvious one 0:08:38.280 --> 0:08:40.720 would be if you get a passion out to know. 0:08:41.200 --> 0:08:43.160 But what are some of them, maybe the more nuanced 0:08:43.160 --> 0:08:44.880 ways he saw. 0:08:44.760 --> 0:08:50.680 The last night impact. 0:08:49.160 --> 0:08:51.440 Well, we were trying to do best to get some 0:08:51.559 --> 0:08:54.959 variety there. Run the ball in some second tens against them, 0:08:55.000 --> 0:08:58.880 which they they oftentimes have the upper hand there. So 0:08:58.920 --> 0:09:00.640 we were trying to take that back little bit. And 0:09:00.679 --> 0:09:03.559 so they're not always sexy ten yard runs, but sometimes 0:09:03.600 --> 0:09:05.199 they're four and five yard runs that keep you out 0:09:05.200 --> 0:09:07.800 of a third and ten and so that to me 0:09:07.960 --> 0:09:12.120 was as important as Chase is explosive down the you know, 0:09:12.160 --> 0:09:14.079 the middle to the right sideline and the left one 0:09:14.080 --> 0:09:16.960 that he you know, toe tapped the sidelines. Those to 0:09:17.040 --> 0:09:20.240 me were as effective. It was a second ten run 0:09:20.280 --> 0:09:24.160 that got us to third and five or second and 0:09:24.200 --> 0:09:26.360 eight run that got us a first down. Those were 0:09:26.360 --> 0:09:28.560 the ones that to me as a play caller, really 0:09:28.720 --> 0:09:31.640 allowed us to effectively operate on offense. 0:09:32.960 --> 0:09:34.880 What do you think in the last couple of weeks 0:09:34.880 --> 0:09:39.520 here has been that has changed in the running? Is 0:09:39.559 --> 0:09:42.280 there is there something that you see and you notice 0:09:42.320 --> 0:09:43.560 that that looks different? 0:09:43.640 --> 0:09:47.040 Now, yeah, I mean it's it's I hate saying this, 0:09:47.200 --> 0:09:49.320 but because you're looking at it in the first couple 0:09:49.320 --> 0:09:51.520 of weeks and it's like we're just right there and 0:09:51.559 --> 0:09:53.560 there's just this one element on this play, and then 0:09:53.559 --> 0:09:55.080 the next place it's this other thing. 0:09:55.160 --> 0:09:55.480 And so. 0:09:57.440 --> 0:09:59.520 Once once that starts to click early in a game 0:09:59.559 --> 0:10:04.719 and you feel rhythm, the confidence rises, and again as 0:10:04.720 --> 0:10:08.200 important when you're completing football, sometimes we're just completing balls 0:10:08.240 --> 0:10:10.000 to second four. Now you can call another run and 0:10:10.080 --> 0:10:12.560 keep leaning on it. So you've heard me saying here 0:10:12.600 --> 0:10:14.840 a million times. Just getting a first down allows us 0:10:14.920 --> 0:10:15.800 to play more freely. 0:10:15.840 --> 0:10:16.400 We got a lot of. 0:10:16.360 --> 0:10:18.480 First downs last night, so you get a chance to 0:10:18.559 --> 0:10:22.600 let everything work more and keep even if you get 0:10:22.600 --> 0:10:24.360 a zero yard run or one yard run, you can 0:10:24.360 --> 0:10:25.760 still come back to it because you've got a good 0:10:25.800 --> 0:10:29.000 amount of plays in those drives and the offense has 0:10:29.040 --> 0:10:30.559 a lot of confidence. So it just allowed us to 0:10:30.600 --> 0:10:33.840 continue to lean into it. And you know, I hate 0:10:33.840 --> 0:10:35.960 to say it took off. We only ran it, you know, 0:10:36.000 --> 0:10:38.000 fifteen times or so, but it was effective for us, 0:10:38.040 --> 0:10:39.880 and it kept us on schedule and allowed us to 0:10:39.880 --> 0:10:41.240 do all the other things we want to do from 0:10:41.280 --> 0:10:42.839 an attacking standpoint. 0:10:42.559 --> 0:10:44.600 After getting black or ready to play two games in 0:10:44.640 --> 0:10:46.440 ten days and I get a chance to breathe kind 0:10:46.440 --> 0:10:48.880 of what's next in this process of and it's just 0:10:48.880 --> 0:10:49.640 been a crash force. 0:10:49.679 --> 0:10:50.560 But now maybe you get. 0:10:50.400 --> 0:10:51.600 To do a little more. 0:10:51.920 --> 0:10:55.360 Yeah, yeah, And again it's it's all coming to him. 0:10:55.400 --> 0:10:58.160 It's all making a lot of sense to him. What 0:10:58.200 --> 0:11:01.920 you find in this game. It's not even the complexity 0:11:01.920 --> 0:11:04.280 of the play call. It's just a word that sounds 0:11:04.360 --> 0:11:06.920 unfamiliar when you're looking at the call sheet. It made 0:11:06.960 --> 0:11:09.439 sense and then I'm saying it and it's not registering 0:11:09.440 --> 0:11:11.480 what word I'm saying. So that was there was a 0:11:11.480 --> 0:11:15.120 couple of repeats in there yesterday that we were trying 0:11:15.120 --> 0:11:16.920 to make work and it wasn't It wasn't a complex 0:11:16.960 --> 0:11:18.720 play call. It's just the phrasing of how it is. 0:11:18.760 --> 0:11:19.079 And so. 0:11:20.559 --> 0:11:22.640 I was just I'm impressed of how he does handle 0:11:22.679 --> 0:11:24.360 all these long play calls we have, because on third 0:11:24.400 --> 0:11:26.920 down or got two play calls in red zone. It 0:11:26.960 --> 0:11:28.719 was a lot too, and he did a great job 0:11:28.760 --> 0:11:30.840 taking it all in. So now with a full week, 0:11:31.000 --> 0:11:33.080 a full normal week here coming up with an extra 0:11:33.160 --> 0:11:35.680 day on Monday as well, I think it'll be it'll 0:11:35.720 --> 0:11:38.400 be really helpful and it'll really slow down and and uh, 0:11:38.640 --> 0:11:40.920 we can hone in on on what he continues to 0:11:40.960 --> 0:11:42.400 do best and keep featuring that. 0:11:42.640 --> 0:11:44.880 I know he was talking. 0:11:44.600 --> 0:11:47.920 About that sometimes when it broke the huddle that are 0:11:48.000 --> 0:11:50.120 kind of shaking her head because there's I don't know 0:11:50.160 --> 0:11:51.559 if this is was there. 0:11:51.640 --> 0:11:58.480 Was there any one of those plays, said what's going on? Yeah, yep, yeah, 0:11:58.520 --> 0:12:02.079 there is one stick out. Uh, well, the zone read 0:12:02.200 --> 0:12:04.160 number one. I was trying to call time out. 0:12:05.880 --> 0:12:09.600 Because we definitely were not lined up correctly and an 0:12:10.120 --> 0:12:12.240 integral part of the play was not about to occur. 0:12:14.679 --> 0:12:16.199 And next thing you know, we got a first time. 0:12:16.240 --> 0:12:17.960 So I'm just gonna shut up and just keep my 0:12:18.280 --> 0:12:21.360 keep keep standing over there on sidelines. But uh, that 0:12:21.640 --> 0:12:25.839 was one that stood out. Uh, there's a couple of 0:12:26.000 --> 0:12:28.439 quirky formations, and again it's just it's all the phrasing, 0:12:28.440 --> 0:12:30.320 and it's part of me is I'm so used to 0:12:30.320 --> 0:12:32.240 talking to two guys that have been here for so long, 0:12:32.280 --> 0:12:34.319 and so I could say it quickly because they've heard 0:12:34.320 --> 0:12:36.200 it a million times, and so he's hearing some of 0:12:36.240 --> 0:12:38.760 these pairings for the first time with us, and it's 0:12:38.840 --> 0:12:41.040 it's just it's anybody in this room. You can teach 0:12:41.040 --> 0:12:42.319 it to them, and you need to hear it a 0:12:42.320 --> 0:12:45.280 couple of times, especially in a moment like that, for Okay, 0:12:45.320 --> 0:12:47.360 this is what he's trying to say to man. But 0:12:47.400 --> 0:12:49.520 we worked through it and good and it's to forty 0:12:49.600 --> 0:12:52.120 year olds just communicating as best we can with each other. 0:12:52.160 --> 0:12:56.080 And so again it's it, made it work, made it exciting, 0:12:57.559 --> 0:12:59.400 and and we'll just continue to grow from there. 0:13:00.040 --> 0:13:01.839 As I were patient with him through all of that. 0:13:02.040 --> 0:13:03.760 And you only have so many time. 0:13:03.600 --> 0:13:06.480 Outs you've been burned. Yeah, part for you that when you. 0:13:06.400 --> 0:13:08.960 See it lined up wrong to go hard, let's just 0:13:08.960 --> 0:13:09.600 see what happens. 0:13:09.640 --> 0:13:11.680 It is it is and and you're you're trying to 0:13:11.679 --> 0:13:14.160 measure in the moment, what the the is the health 0:13:14.240 --> 0:13:19.679 critical is the time out? And so again it's one 0:13:19.720 --> 0:13:21.360 of those. One of those was the fourth and one 0:13:21.400 --> 0:13:24.240 I called the time out on I wasn't sure we 0:13:24.240 --> 0:13:26.840 were going to operate the way that we were going 0:13:26.880 --> 0:13:29.120 to need to operate. And so of course, how it 0:13:29.120 --> 0:13:30.800 always works out, you're being a time out one second 0:13:30.840 --> 0:13:32.920 lefter we get the first down and then and then you're. 0:13:32.880 --> 0:13:33.520 Like, go great. 0:13:34.960 --> 0:13:37.040 So it's just that's just part of it, part of 0:13:37.080 --> 0:13:39.200 working through it. I'm happy to do it. You know 0:13:39.200 --> 0:13:41.559 when he's playing the way he is. I'm happy to 0:13:41.559 --> 0:13:43.720 to make any adjustments I need to, And he's saying 0:13:43.760 --> 0:13:46.440 he's patient with me. I'm feeling I'm being pattern with him. 0:13:46.440 --> 0:13:48.080 I feel like he's being patient with me too, you know, 0:13:48.160 --> 0:13:50.760 as I'm sometimes hurried in the in the play call, 0:13:50.840 --> 0:13:52.440 trying to get it in and he just needs me 0:13:52.480 --> 0:13:58.200 to relax a little bit. So that's two way street there, all. 0:13:58.200 --> 0:14:01.360 Right, that's uh Zach Taylor and we'll take a break 0:14:01.360 --> 0:14:03.199 and come back and break that down. There's a lot there, 0:14:03.360 --> 0:14:05.600 lap and a lop that we want to add to that. 0:14:06.040 --> 0:14:08.520 But if you have a chance, if you've got time, 0:14:08.559 --> 0:14:11.240 come on down to join us. 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Welcome back to the Bengals pep Rally. 0:14:43.360 --> 0:14:46.040 Welcome back to the Bengals pep Rally Show, broadcasting live 0:14:46.080 --> 0:14:49.120 from on the Ryan Eatery one out of Court Street, 0:14:49.520 --> 0:14:52.080 right above Kroger, Waynebox, Bill of Dave Lap. I'm glad 0:14:52.120 --> 0:14:55.520 to have you board presented by Bear Chicken, and I'm 0:14:55.560 --> 0:14:58.800 telling you what it is a great day in Cincinnati. 0:14:59.480 --> 0:15:04.200 We're on the Bengals Radio Network. We're on top of things. Uh, 0:15:04.320 --> 0:15:07.480 we're knocking off the top of the conference. I mean 0:15:07.520 --> 0:15:11.200 the division last night and and lapped such a big 0:15:11.240 --> 0:15:14.200 win because you talked about it. You now all of 0:15:14.280 --> 0:15:17.320 a sudden take them and say, hey, you had this distance, 0:15:17.440 --> 0:15:19.680 but the gap is closed and they got a tough 0:15:19.760 --> 0:15:20.280 road ahead. 0:15:20.480 --> 0:15:23.000 They do they do and uh, and to beat them 0:15:23.560 --> 0:15:26.120 head up in the division game is big. It's it's 0:15:26.120 --> 0:15:29.920 a it's a massive scenario. They're gonna play them twice. Obviously, 0:15:29.920 --> 0:15:32.960 they got the Steelers coming up pretty quickly in less 0:15:32.960 --> 0:15:36.800 than a month's time in Pittsburgh. So that'll be a battle, 0:15:36.880 --> 0:15:39.360 Royal Man, that'll be a bloodbath. That'll be out for 0:15:39.520 --> 0:15:42.280 some serious revenge there. But I thought two of the 0:15:42.280 --> 0:15:46.240 biggest reasons the Bengals won the football game turnovers. They 0:15:46.280 --> 0:15:49.280 turned Pittsburgh over, and they took care of the football 0:15:49.360 --> 0:15:50.200 Bengals had none. 0:15:50.320 --> 0:15:52.040 You asked Zach three keys to the game? 0:15:52.560 --> 0:15:56.760 Yeah, and he said turnovers, field position, and give the 0:15:56.800 --> 0:15:58.720 offense a couple of short fields. 0:15:58.840 --> 0:16:01.480 Yeah. That and and then down we talked about a 0:16:01.520 --> 0:16:05.320 little bit as well. So, uh, I mean, they they 0:16:05.440 --> 0:16:09.440 basically everything they wanted to try to do to make 0:16:09.480 --> 0:16:11.800 sure that that they had to do to win the 0:16:11.800 --> 0:16:14.480 football game. They they achieved. They got they got done, 0:16:14.480 --> 0:16:18.200 they accomplished it. I mean, uh, that's that's not easy 0:16:18.240 --> 0:16:21.240 to do in any NFL game against any NFL opponent, 0:16:21.280 --> 0:16:25.040 never mind an opponent like the Pittsburgh Steelers, because you know, 0:16:25.240 --> 0:16:28.160 Mike tomlin Man, I mean, he puts a high high 0:16:28.160 --> 0:16:32.640 priority on ball security, and Arthur Smith does as well, 0:16:32.920 --> 0:16:35.800 their offensive coordinator. I mean, they do not give the 0:16:35.840 --> 0:16:40.080 football away that they're you know, it's it's it's foreign 0:16:40.120 --> 0:16:42.280 to them, you know, they they're allergic to it. They 0:16:42.360 --> 0:16:43.760 just they don't let it happen. 0:16:44.640 --> 0:16:46.400 Was that, Well, let me ask you that the first 0:16:46.400 --> 0:16:50.040 interception of Jordan Battle guy. Yeah, was that merely just uh, 0:16:50.680 --> 0:16:53.200 Aaron Rodgers and the guys just not knowing each other 0:16:53.280 --> 0:16:55.760 well enough to understand that Aaron was going to air 0:16:55.760 --> 0:16:58.440 it out and you need to just kind of, you know, 0:16:59.160 --> 0:17:01.920 track that ball right and go get it, because it 0:17:01.960 --> 0:17:04.280 looked like Aaron was just like, oh, I'm going to 0:17:04.320 --> 0:17:06.040 make it a fifty to fifty ball and just throw 0:17:06.040 --> 0:17:08.200 it up and you know, credit Jordan Battle for reading 0:17:08.240 --> 0:17:08.959 what was going on. 0:17:09.200 --> 0:17:12.480 Yeah, And that's that's uncharacteristic. Aaron Rodgers, he usually doesn't 0:17:12.520 --> 0:17:14.639 put the ball even in that kind of jeopardy, you know, 0:17:15.040 --> 0:17:18.080 fifty to fifty. I mean he likes to He likes 0:17:18.119 --> 0:17:20.480 to be able to see it and his mind almost 0:17:20.520 --> 0:17:24.120 see it finish in a completion. You know. Jordan Battle, though, 0:17:24.119 --> 0:17:26.159 made a great play on that football, there's no question. 0:17:26.600 --> 0:17:28.240 And that's what you have to do. I mean, you 0:17:28.280 --> 0:17:30.600 have to raise your level of play. You have to 0:17:30.680 --> 0:17:34.920 you know, make special plays to win against a football team, 0:17:35.280 --> 0:17:40.240 you know, like the Pittsburgh Steelers. Their organization historically, it's 0:17:40.240 --> 0:17:43.040 a winning program. I mean they win a hell of 0:17:43.119 --> 0:17:46.080 a lot more football games than they lose. So you know, 0:17:46.200 --> 0:17:49.760 you can't take anything for granted. You have to play 0:17:49.800 --> 0:17:53.600 every snap to its fullest. You can't self destruct. So 0:17:53.640 --> 0:17:57.000 that's where turnovers came in again. You know, they to 0:17:57.080 --> 0:18:01.560 have no take no giveaways. They ended up getting a 0:18:01.600 --> 0:18:04.840 couple of interceptions off of Aaron Rodgers, but no giveaways 0:18:04.880 --> 0:18:08.760 against that football team in such an important football game. 0:18:08.800 --> 0:18:11.760 And like you said box earlier, to start the segment, 0:18:12.560 --> 0:18:14.399 close the gap, you know, I mean, now they're two 0:18:14.440 --> 0:18:17.359 and on the division, right Pittsburgh has a loss. You know, 0:18:17.480 --> 0:18:20.040 right now, the Bengals have the best division record in 0:18:20.080 --> 0:18:23.040 the AFC North. There's a lot of season to play, 0:18:23.520 --> 0:18:25.000 but not a bad spot. 0:18:24.800 --> 0:18:25.000 To be on. 0:18:25.200 --> 0:18:26.760 Yeah, and we're a third of the way through, so 0:18:26.840 --> 0:18:29.320 while we do have a lot left, a third of 0:18:29.400 --> 0:18:31.160 the way in, so all of a sudden, the third 0:18:31.200 --> 0:18:34.679 of the way becomes halfway and then halfway, Yeah, halfway 0:18:34.720 --> 0:18:37.360 becomes two thirds in and then you know, we were 0:18:37.400 --> 0:18:40.800 talking last year as the Bengals were trying to rally 0:18:40.880 --> 0:18:43.000 to get in the playoffs, the thing we looked at 0:18:43.119 --> 0:18:46.280 that was an iesore for them was the division record. Yep, 0:18:46.320 --> 0:18:48.240 they did not do well in the division on the 0:18:48.240 --> 0:18:50.679 front end. And so right now to be two and 0:18:50.720 --> 0:18:53.640 on the division. As you start to get this thing 0:18:53.720 --> 0:18:56.440 back on track, is a perfect place to be as 0:18:56.480 --> 0:18:59.760 you get in a rhythm, because after last night, I 0:18:59.760 --> 0:19:02.440 think it started in the second half of the Green 0:19:02.480 --> 0:19:05.879 Bay Packer game. What we saw from Joe Flacco and 0:19:06.000 --> 0:19:09.880 Jamar Chase and T Higgins collectively, Yeah, we saw something 0:19:09.920 --> 0:19:12.000 and it looked like it was brewing like a. 0:19:11.960 --> 0:19:12.919 Cup of coffee. 0:19:13.040 --> 0:19:15.600 I mean it just started. The coffee just started dripping, right. 0:19:15.640 --> 0:19:17.600 You knew by the time we get home the pot 0:19:17.640 --> 0:19:18.000 was going to. 0:19:18.000 --> 0:19:23.240 Before Yeah, it was percolating, man. Yeah, and uh yeah, 0:19:23.320 --> 0:19:26.919 I think that what you do as a professional. You 0:19:26.960 --> 0:19:29.879 try to when you finish a football game and an 0:19:30.240 --> 0:19:33.760 uptick on a high note like they did the week before, 0:19:34.280 --> 0:19:38.000 you try to carry it over. And they did. They 0:19:38.040 --> 0:19:41.480 played a very high level on a high high percentage 0:19:41.480 --> 0:19:45.399 of the snaps against a team that many consider to 0:19:45.440 --> 0:19:48.080 be a Super Bowl contender. I don't think they're a 0:19:48.119 --> 0:19:51.640 Super Bowl championship type football team. I'm not even sure 0:19:51.640 --> 0:19:54.360 they're a super Bowl team. But I do think they're 0:19:54.359 --> 0:19:57.040 a playoff team. I mean, Mike Tomlins made the playoffs 0:19:58.040 --> 0:20:00.640 many many years, and a couple of decks gates worth, 0:20:01.119 --> 0:20:03.480 So he knows what it takes. He knows what the 0:20:03.520 --> 0:20:06.399 formula is supposed to supposed to be and what it's 0:20:06.400 --> 0:20:09.120 supposed to look like. So for the Bengals to have 0:20:09.200 --> 0:20:12.880 that better division record right now than the Pittsburgh Steelers 0:20:12.880 --> 0:20:13.399 means something. 0:20:13.400 --> 0:20:16.320 It really does, absolutely means something. Have you got time 0:20:16.359 --> 0:20:18.720 to join us? We're down here on the Ryan one 0:20:18.400 --> 0:20:21.280 of the Court Street. It is the Bengals pep Rally 0:20:21.320 --> 0:20:24.560 Show presented about Just Bear Chicken right here on the 0:20:24.560 --> 0:20:29.040 Bengals Radio Network. Yes, sir, welcome back to this being. 0:20:30.359 --> 0:20:33.199 Welcome back to the Bengals pep Rowley Show, broadcasting live 0:20:33.280 --> 0:20:35.320 from on the Ryane one out of the East Court Street 0:20:35.400 --> 0:20:38.679 on the Bengals Radio Network. 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Right, and thank 0:21:14.440 --> 0:21:15.679 you very much, Duke Toobin. 0:21:16.400 --> 0:21:19.600 I agree, man, uh, Duke Tobin the scouting department. They 0:21:19.640 --> 0:21:22.720 hit a home run, a grand slam. Really, watching Joe 0:21:22.760 --> 0:21:25.520 Flacco throw the football, he still it's just a flick 0:21:25.560 --> 0:21:28.120 of the wrist, man. I mean, he gets so much 0:21:28.200 --> 0:21:33.440 velocity in so many RPMs on the football with such 0:21:33.880 --> 0:21:37.639 little physical stress put on the body. I mean, he 0:21:37.800 --> 0:21:43.120 is a beautiful thrower of the football. It's rare he'll throw. 0:21:43.200 --> 0:21:46.240 He threw that football at the end seventy yards and 0:21:46.960 --> 0:21:49.560 really no wind up. I mean he just kind of 0:21:49.680 --> 0:21:50.880 took it back and let it fly. 0:21:51.080 --> 0:21:52.040 Man. He is. 0:21:52.200 --> 0:21:55.439 He has got a powerful throwing arm. He's got a 0:21:55.440 --> 0:21:57.520 howartzer hanging off that right shoulder. 0:21:57.560 --> 0:21:57.720 Man. 0:21:57.760 --> 0:22:00.520 I mean, he definitely he can can in the football 0:22:00.560 --> 0:22:03.720 anywhere on the football field, to any quadrant of the 0:22:03.720 --> 0:22:07.000 football field. And the big thing that separates him in 0:22:07.080 --> 0:22:10.399 my mind, most power throwers may kind of scatter the 0:22:10.400 --> 0:22:13.960 ball around a little bit. He is like pinpoint. He 0:22:14.119 --> 0:22:17.160 is spot on I mean, he'll hit the right shoulder, 0:22:17.600 --> 0:22:19.919 he'll hit the left hip, he'll hit the you know, 0:22:19.960 --> 0:22:23.560 the the left knee, hit the right knee. He puts 0:22:23.600 --> 0:22:26.560 the ball everywhere and anywhere that needs to be put 0:22:27.160 --> 0:22:29.320 to make a play down the football field. He has 0:22:29.359 --> 0:22:34.800 got a special special talent in that that appendage hanging 0:22:34.840 --> 0:22:35.600 off that shoulder. 0:22:35.880 --> 0:22:38.440 All right, let's go to the press conference from yesterday 0:22:38.480 --> 0:22:42.800 where Joe Flacco talked to the media. 0:22:46.760 --> 0:22:48.880 Man, it's a lot of fun, I'm you know, and 0:22:48.960 --> 0:22:50.560 I mean, obviously it's a lot of fun towards the 0:22:50.600 --> 0:22:52.520 end of the game when when you're getting ready to go. 0:22:52.600 --> 0:22:57.159 But yeah, this is what we do it for, is 0:22:56.640 --> 0:23:02.120 is games like that. It came down to the wire, 0:23:02.240 --> 0:23:05.520 just like we we know it's going to and really 0:23:05.600 --> 0:23:07.800 really happy about how the guys just kind of stayed 0:23:07.800 --> 0:23:12.240 with it for full sixty minutes. And man, our offensive 0:23:12.240 --> 0:23:16.919 line was going today. You know, we're running the football, protecting, uh, 0:23:17.000 --> 0:23:18.440 you know, doing a lot of things that we wanted 0:23:18.480 --> 0:23:18.679 to do. 0:23:19.200 --> 0:23:21.080 Joe, when they score there, take the lead and even 0:23:21.119 --> 0:23:23.760 through a lot of the situations two minutes plus, what 0:23:23.880 --> 0:23:24.199 goes to. 0:23:24.200 --> 0:23:29.119 Your mind, Yeah, listen, you gotta you gotta this is 0:23:29.119 --> 0:23:32.000 such an emotional game. But like sometimes, especially as a quarterback, 0:23:32.040 --> 0:23:34.359 you gotta take the emotions and and the want to 0:23:34.560 --> 0:23:37.240 of like looking ahead at the results. You got to 0:23:37.280 --> 0:23:39.280 just take that out of play and just go play football. 0:23:39.320 --> 0:23:41.159 And you know, hey, we. 0:23:41.200 --> 0:23:43.280 Got Jamar on an out route. Oh they're off of them. 0:23:43.400 --> 0:23:45.480 Just throw it. Just simple, the simple things. 0:23:45.520 --> 0:23:48.920 It just goes back to the basics and not worrying 0:23:48.960 --> 0:23:51.560 about the result in the moment, just playing the play 0:23:51.600 --> 0:23:58.119 and getting our guys in position to go win it. 0:23:58.119 --> 0:24:00.479 It was a lot of fun, but there's like, you know, 0:24:01.920 --> 0:24:06.800 you're still there's your mind's not necessarily thinking that way 0:24:07.080 --> 0:24:11.240 for the full sixty minutes, but obviously the last seven seconds, 0:24:11.480 --> 0:24:13.639 you know, or but even that there's three seconds they 0:24:13.680 --> 0:24:16.320 got to hal Marry off. You're still you know, you've 0:24:16.320 --> 0:24:18.600 been through I've been through enough of these too to 0:24:19.680 --> 0:24:23.600 wait until that clockhead zero to be excited. So but 0:24:23.840 --> 0:24:27.879 like it it, Listen, I love doing this. I've been 0:24:27.880 --> 0:24:29.600 doing it such for such a long time. When you're 0:24:29.640 --> 0:24:32.040 out there with the guys and you're and you're doing 0:24:32.080 --> 0:24:33.720 what you want to do and you're having success, and 0:24:33.760 --> 0:24:35.560 you can look at each other's eyes and just like 0:24:36.520 --> 0:24:40.080 you get that feeling you know, of you know, bonding 0:24:40.119 --> 0:24:42.480 with somebody else and just it's a lot of fun 0:24:42.760 --> 0:24:45.560 and it's a lot more fun when that clockheads zero 0:24:45.600 --> 0:24:47.080 and you've gotten the job done. 0:24:47.480 --> 0:24:47.920 Got here. 0:24:48.160 --> 0:24:52.360 Obviously, you probably knew how good Martie because we're from 0:24:52.400 --> 0:24:54.760 in Cleveland and being a fan of the game, But 0:24:55.280 --> 0:24:57.640 there's a game like tonight when you see what mart 0:24:57.640 --> 0:25:00.280 did and then what Tea was able to do. 0:25:00.880 --> 0:25:01.240 Did that? 0:25:01.440 --> 0:25:02.480 Did that just open your eyes? 0:25:02.520 --> 0:25:04.160 Like these guys are even better than I thought. 0:25:04.400 --> 0:25:07.240 Yeah, last week it opened my eyes just just with 0:25:07.320 --> 0:25:10.640 the simple things, not not the fact that they went 0:25:10.680 --> 0:25:16.240 three hundred yards obviously, but you could see it. And 0:25:16.280 --> 0:25:18.680 then today what I got to see was just how 0:25:18.720 --> 0:25:21.200 a defense has to treat those guys and if you 0:25:21.240 --> 0:25:23.000 don't treat them a certain way, they can hurt you. 0:25:23.080 --> 0:25:24.640 And if you do treat them a certain way, well 0:25:24.640 --> 0:25:25.920 maybe we have some other guys that can. 0:25:25.920 --> 0:25:26.600 Get the job done. 0:25:27.040 --> 0:25:29.480 So you today, I think I got to see just 0:25:29.560 --> 0:25:34.520 the problems they create in general. Last week I said 0:25:34.520 --> 0:25:36.760 it earlier this week. Last week we didn't do anything crazy, 0:25:36.800 --> 0:25:40.760 but you could see those guys are different and it's 0:25:40.960 --> 0:25:45.600 pretty cool to be got a throw I mean to 0:25:45.640 --> 0:25:48.600 you tell me, I don't think so. 0:25:48.800 --> 0:25:49.480 I don't think so. 0:25:50.440 --> 0:25:52.840 Well, we threw the ball forty seven times or probably 0:25:52.920 --> 0:25:57.520 dropped back a couple more, and I mean I think 0:25:57.520 --> 0:25:58.760 he ended up. I mean, look, at the end of 0:25:58.800 --> 0:26:00.719 the first half, we just outrought out right, you know, 0:26:00.840 --> 0:26:02.920 like it was. I don't think it was anything crazy, 0:26:03.119 --> 0:26:08.960 pretty simple stuff underneath, getting them one on one until 0:26:09.000 --> 0:26:10.439 we drew it up and it worked out. 0:26:10.920 --> 0:26:11.199 Did you. 0:26:13.840 --> 0:26:14.240 Like that? 0:26:14.359 --> 0:26:16.560 Yeah, well that really was kind of more of a 0:26:16.600 --> 0:26:19.760 broken play. We just didn't line upright and it wasn't 0:26:19.760 --> 0:26:20.800 really a true read option. 0:26:20.880 --> 0:26:21.840 But I did. I did. 0:26:21.880 --> 0:26:23.920 I've done a few of those early, probably my first 0:26:23.960 --> 0:26:25.600 three years. I did a few of those, like in 0:26:25.640 --> 0:26:28.800 certain situations. But it's been a while and it kind 0:26:28.800 --> 0:26:30.560 of just happened. It just happened. So I was like, 0:26:30.560 --> 0:26:32.560 all right, now, how can I find somewhere to get 0:26:32.600 --> 0:26:34.639 down and you know, not get taken out by one 0:26:34.680 --> 0:26:37.080 of these guys a little bit? 0:26:37.160 --> 0:26:41.239 Yeah, kind of like your first question, that's right in 0:26:41.280 --> 0:26:44.000 your nine or ten days here, when did you realize 0:26:44.000 --> 0:26:46.400 that you could have this successful of an offensive game 0:26:46.440 --> 0:26:47.119 like this quickly? 0:26:49.280 --> 0:26:51.359 You're not thinking about it in that sense. I mean 0:26:51.400 --> 0:26:53.840 I think you're always like wanting to go do that. 0:26:54.080 --> 0:26:57.479 But I think what being here in this situation has 0:26:57.520 --> 0:26:59.639 done for me is it allows you to recalibrate and 0:26:59.680 --> 0:27:01.800 not worry about those things. It allows you to just 0:27:01.840 --> 0:27:05.280 focus on the basics, and it's a good reminder that 0:27:05.280 --> 0:27:09.560 that doing that is what leads to success and consistency. 0:27:10.560 --> 0:27:12.680 So I think the bigger thing going forward is just 0:27:12.720 --> 0:27:14.520 continuing to remind myself of that. 0:27:14.760 --> 0:27:17.400 Zach said you had some issues with maybe his accent 0:27:17.600 --> 0:27:19.800 when he was trying to Yeah, it's. 0:27:19.600 --> 0:27:21.560 Just like some of these words are. 0:27:21.480 --> 0:27:23.159 So new to me, and when you don't get a 0:27:23.200 --> 0:27:25.480 shit like I honestly felt like this week was probably 0:27:25.480 --> 0:27:27.280 a little bit harder than last week, just because it's 0:27:27.280 --> 0:27:29.200 such a short week. You're still putting in a full 0:27:29.240 --> 0:27:31.600 game plan. You don't get to hear the play as much. 0:27:32.760 --> 0:27:35.280 So there were certain things like and I could picture everything, 0:27:35.320 --> 0:27:37.520 but there's certain things with the formations and things like 0:27:37.520 --> 0:27:39.800 that that you're hearing for the first couple of times, 0:27:40.119 --> 0:27:42.080 and even though you've read the play a million times, 0:27:42.119 --> 0:27:44.879 like when you hear it, it just wasn't hitting my 0:27:44.920 --> 0:27:47.040 brain right. So there was a few of those and 0:27:47.080 --> 0:27:49.480 we were joking on the sideline like any time that happened, 0:27:49.480 --> 0:27:51.359 and we broke the play and we broke the huddle, 0:27:51.400 --> 0:27:52.840 and it was like, I don't know if we're right here. 0:27:52.960 --> 0:27:56.240 I mean that play hit so like we got lucky 0:27:56.240 --> 0:28:00.160 tonight in that sense. What did you see that they played. 0:28:00.000 --> 0:28:00.439 Going on one? 0:28:00.480 --> 0:28:02.560 The safety didn't really Maybe he was cheating his way 0:28:02.600 --> 0:28:05.720 a little bit, but not really, And I knew I 0:28:05.720 --> 0:28:08.040 had a conversion to him, and it was a chance 0:28:08.080 --> 0:28:13.200 to basically end the game. Uh they I felt like 0:28:13.200 --> 0:28:15.159 they were kind of playing butt back shoulders. So the 0:28:15.200 --> 0:28:17.720 one adjustment I made there was maybe just throw it 0:28:17.800 --> 0:28:19.320 up a little bit more and let him kind of 0:28:19.400 --> 0:28:20.920 bend into it if he gets by them. And I 0:28:20.920 --> 0:28:22.560 think he got a good release, so I could I 0:28:22.560 --> 0:28:24.880 could kind of see that throw happening, you know, as 0:28:24.920 --> 0:28:25.520 I was doing it. 0:28:25.640 --> 0:28:27.000 So you can't work here for that bulk of the 0:28:27.160 --> 0:28:28.119 four game losing streak. 0:28:28.400 --> 0:28:30.760 You sense what this win meant the teammates had gone 0:28:30.760 --> 0:28:31.080 through that. 0:28:31.160 --> 0:28:33.600 Oh for sure, that was an awesome sideline, an awesome 0:28:33.600 --> 0:28:35.760 locker room after the game. But at the same time, 0:28:35.760 --> 0:28:37.000 you got to get those guys with a lot of credit, 0:28:37.080 --> 0:28:39.040 Like it's not easy to lose four straight games and 0:28:39.120 --> 0:28:41.080 keep your head into it. So the fact that they've 0:28:41.120 --> 0:28:42.520 been able to do this and get to the point 0:28:42.520 --> 0:28:44.280 where we got tonight and beat a good football team 0:28:44.720 --> 0:28:45.520 is also impressive. 0:28:45.800 --> 0:28:46.640 Along those lines. 0:28:46.720 --> 0:28:49.920 Show it's one win, but given the fact that he 0:28:50.120 --> 0:28:54.680 against that defense in this environment, potential what this team. 0:28:54.520 --> 0:28:57.160 Especially off that, Yeah, you sure hope. 0:28:57.200 --> 0:29:01.600 So I hope you can come in here and play 0:29:01.640 --> 0:29:04.120 well and and you always want to, like, especially when 0:29:04.160 --> 0:29:06.600 when you get guys that are good at playing football, 0:29:06.600 --> 0:29:07.800 you want to go show them like, hey, man, like 0:29:07.800 --> 0:29:09.800 we're gonna be able to do some good things, and 0:29:09.840 --> 0:29:11.400 you hope that they feel that way. But now to 0:29:11.400 --> 0:29:12.880 go out there and have done it for like the 0:29:12.920 --> 0:29:15.000 last six quarters, I think it's going to give us 0:29:15.040 --> 0:29:18.200 a lot of confidence and hopefully we can carry that 0:29:18.320 --> 0:29:19.760 over and use it to our advantage. 0:29:19.800 --> 0:29:21.960 Even though you've only been here for short it's giving 0:29:21.960 --> 0:29:24.200 you so much trust and big situations that you're more 0:29:24.240 --> 0:29:24.600 a team. 0:29:24.800 --> 0:29:25.720 Oh. 0:29:25.800 --> 0:29:27.600 I think I told you early on when I got here. 0:29:27.640 --> 0:29:29.400 If you can't throw the guys, if you can't get 0:29:29.400 --> 0:29:31.520 on the same page with those kind of guys, then you. 0:29:31.480 --> 0:29:32.240 Know what are you doing? 0:29:32.400 --> 0:29:33.280 Uh? 0:29:33.360 --> 0:29:35.920 They're pretty special. So they're you know, you can you 0:29:35.960 --> 0:29:40.200 can kind of read their body language and they get open, 0:29:40.320 --> 0:29:41.360 so it's easier to throat to the. 0:29:42.480 --> 0:29:45.840 Time you spent with you last week, as you know, 0:29:46.080 --> 0:29:49.680 anything that you could share that's maybe really helped simplify 0:29:49.800 --> 0:29:52.360 things for you so quickly. Or what is your impression 0:29:52.440 --> 0:29:54.480 of Zach in the way he's worked with you to 0:29:54.480 --> 0:29:54.920 get you up? 0:29:55.320 --> 0:29:57.560 I think the biggest thing is he's been patient, you know, 0:29:57.640 --> 0:30:03.280 so even like things like tonight where maybe I wasn't 0:30:03.480 --> 0:30:06.000 hearing it right and it wasn't calling it completely right 0:30:06.080 --> 0:30:08.280 for a handful of plays, it wasn't like he was 0:30:08.280 --> 0:30:10.520 getting bothered by it. He worked with me and he 0:30:10.600 --> 0:30:12.920 was patient with me, and he allowed me to just 0:30:12.960 --> 0:30:14.720 go play football. And I think he saw that even 0:30:14.760 --> 0:30:16.640 though maybe this one little thing was off, that I 0:30:16.720 --> 0:30:18.560 was able to just forget about it once the ball 0:30:18.640 --> 0:30:21.520 is that. So I would say just that like patience, 0:30:21.560 --> 0:30:24.239 and you know, you know, coaches that have done it 0:30:24.280 --> 0:30:26.640 like he has called really good games and put great 0:30:26.640 --> 0:30:28.360 game plans together, they want to put all kinds of 0:30:28.400 --> 0:30:32.000 good stuff in there. And I think he's tried to 0:30:32.040 --> 0:30:33.960 fight that urge a little bit and then been patient 0:30:34.000 --> 0:30:34.240 with me. 0:30:37.600 --> 0:30:41.200 You know that lap I was thinking about something you've 0:30:41.240 --> 0:30:47.000 said year in year out, that was he kind. 0:30:46.840 --> 0:30:48.000 Of lived out last night. 0:30:48.840 --> 0:30:53.120 Make the simple look complex, Make the complex look simple, right, 0:30:53.360 --> 0:30:56.840 And Joe Flackwell said, Hey, it's football. You know the 0:30:56.920 --> 0:30:59.360 guy runs her out, You get into the ball, you 0:30:59.400 --> 0:31:02.240 get to know the guy. And it's like sometime we 0:31:02.280 --> 0:31:06.120 can get so complex and get too deep into weez 0:31:06.160 --> 0:31:07.520 that we fit is football. 0:31:07.560 --> 0:31:09.760 And he realizes that I got two guys. 0:31:09.440 --> 0:31:12.120 Out here at a special absolutely and get them the 0:31:12.200 --> 0:31:15.800 rock and they it'll pay dividends, They'll make plays for you, 0:31:15.880 --> 0:31:21.160 They'll they'll they'll make you appreciate and be proud of 0:31:21.200 --> 0:31:23.479 the fact that you get them the football. There's no 0:31:23.520 --> 0:31:27.440 doubt about it. I think Zach talked about a little bit. 0:31:27.480 --> 0:31:29.240 You just kind of referenced it a little bit too. 0:31:29.800 --> 0:31:33.920 Is the game plan had some sophistication and complexity to it, 0:31:34.240 --> 0:31:37.440 but it was still really simple. It was like keep 0:31:37.440 --> 0:31:40.600 it simple, stupid, you know, the running game, the passing 0:31:40.720 --> 0:31:44.560 concepts were not, you know, overly sophisticated. I mean it 0:31:44.640 --> 0:31:48.200 was it was a game plan that you know, anybody 0:31:48.240 --> 0:31:52.400 can could really understand and go out and potentially execute 0:31:52.440 --> 0:31:54.920 a guy like Joe Flacco, who's been around the league 0:31:54.960 --> 0:31:57.560 as long as he has and has seen as many 0:31:58.000 --> 0:32:02.000 football snaps and plays execute, and that he's executed himself 0:32:02.440 --> 0:32:05.120 over the years. I mean, I thought it was brilliant, 0:32:05.600 --> 0:32:09.000 brilliant game plan put together out of the playbook, you know, 0:32:09.080 --> 0:32:12.200 pulling things out that they thought would fit Joe Flacco's 0:32:12.200 --> 0:32:17.200 skill set. I mean, twelve live snaps in practice. I mean, 0:32:17.240 --> 0:32:20.640 that's unbelievable. Twelve lives. I don't care if you're one 0:32:20.680 --> 0:32:23.720 hundred year veteran. That's hard to do. It's hard to 0:32:23.720 --> 0:32:27.120 go out there against a defense that's you know, got 0:32:27.160 --> 0:32:31.000 football players that can move, are very athletic, can run, 0:32:31.480 --> 0:32:36.120 can figure things out. I mean that that the odds 0:32:36.440 --> 0:32:40.200 of getting done of what got done and accomplished last 0:32:40.240 --> 0:32:44.760 night are unbelievably high. And the Bengals did. They got 0:32:44.760 --> 0:32:45.440 it done. 0:32:45.760 --> 0:32:47.480 They got it done. Indeed, we'll get it done on 0:32:47.520 --> 0:32:48.760 the other side. We'll take a break here. 0:32:48.760 --> 0:32:51.400 You're listening to the Bengals pep rally So presented by 0:32:51.520 --> 0:32:53.720 Just Beare Kicking. 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Simply visit bingles dot com slash 0:33:24.840 --> 0:33:28.440 Coach of the Week and Lapp, I saw something last 0:33:28.520 --> 0:33:31.080 night and I'm gonna frame this up and get your 0:33:31.080 --> 0:33:34.920 thoughts on it. When I saw Joe Burrow on the sideline, 0:33:35.120 --> 0:33:37.960 you know, standing sideline whatever, it took me back to 0:33:38.000 --> 0:33:40.600 a conversation I heard with Salmon will Cox and Ryan. 0:33:42.240 --> 0:33:48.280 Ryan leaped and he said, I remember Joe Burrow. They 0:33:48.320 --> 0:33:50.520 asked me to come and talk to quarterbacks. He thought, hey, 0:33:50.360 --> 0:33:51.240 why do you want. 0:33:51.080 --> 0:33:51.520 To talk to me? 0:33:51.600 --> 0:33:55.400 I didn't do well and Ryan Leif said there was 0:33:55.480 --> 0:33:58.720 one guy taking notes the. 0:33:58.640 --> 0:34:01.800 Whole time that I was taught. It was Joe Burrow. 0:34:02.240 --> 0:34:04.360 And I said to myself when I saw Joel Burrow 0:34:04.360 --> 0:34:06.760 out there last night, I said, you're not going to 0:34:06.840 --> 0:34:09.239 convince me that Joe Burrow was, you know, there for 0:34:09.360 --> 0:34:13.280 his team, but he recognizes betteran like Joe Flacco. 0:34:13.480 --> 0:34:16.480 I can learn some things by watching this guy. Am 0:34:16.520 --> 0:34:17.719 I far offer. 0:34:17.520 --> 0:34:19.319 To No, No, I don't think you are at all. 0:34:19.360 --> 0:34:22.480 I mean I think I think Joe Burrow is, you know, 0:34:23.239 --> 0:34:26.279 not one of these guys that is so impressed for 0:34:26.440 --> 0:34:29.319 himself that you know, he thinks he's up at up 0:34:29.360 --> 0:34:32.800 at one level and really he's not, you know, in 0:34:33.440 --> 0:34:35.439 his mind, he's like, I'm just another guy. 0:34:36.000 --> 0:34:36.160 Uh. 0:34:36.239 --> 0:34:38.160 Now I can play the quarterback position. I can play 0:34:38.200 --> 0:34:40.560 it pretty well, but I don't look at myself as 0:34:40.560 --> 0:34:44.200 this football savant that you know is uh is beyond 0:34:44.440 --> 0:34:47.840 being approached by people and and uh And he's like, 0:34:47.960 --> 0:34:51.400 you know, you can learn from anybody. There's Joe Flacco 0:34:51.440 --> 0:34:54.239 has been around the league almost two decades. I can 0:34:54.360 --> 0:34:57.719 learn something from this guy. I mean, he's been he's 0:34:57.719 --> 0:35:01.160 been places where he's had to learn a and go 0:35:01.239 --> 0:35:04.080 to another one unlearned and relearn, go to another one 0:35:04.160 --> 0:35:06.600 unlearned and relearn. So on and so forth to mean, 0:35:06.840 --> 0:35:09.719 that's not easy, No, that's uneasy cast and you know 0:35:09.800 --> 0:35:14.120 tips on how he does it, on how he learns 0:35:14.160 --> 0:35:16.360 as quickly as he does, because both of these guys 0:35:16.719 --> 0:35:21.359 are a mensa you know, IQ football IQ people, and 0:35:21.960 --> 0:35:25.799 you can always learn. The day that you feel like 0:35:25.840 --> 0:35:27.840 you can't learn anything more, you should get out of 0:35:27.840 --> 0:35:28.120 the game. 0:35:28.239 --> 0:35:28.880 Yeah, it should. 0:35:28.920 --> 0:35:29.360 It's over it. 0:35:29.719 --> 0:35:32.000 And I think Joe Flackele still has that. I can 0:35:32.040 --> 0:35:35.040 still learn things. But I think one of the things 0:35:35.040 --> 0:35:37.319 that I like, I've always liked about Joe Burrow was 0:35:37.360 --> 0:35:40.239 his love and respect for the game of football, absolutely 0:35:40.239 --> 0:35:42.359 and being out there last night and I saw him 0:35:42.360 --> 0:35:45.279 and in my mind, he's such a like you said, 0:35:45.280 --> 0:35:47.839 of mencing so far ahead of everybody else. Everybody's caught 0:35:47.880 --> 0:35:49.439 up in the game last night, and I just felt 0:35:49.440 --> 0:35:51.560 like he was probably older that just I'm doing them 0:35:51.600 --> 0:35:55.919 in watching two guys and Rogers and Joe Flackell, because 0:35:55.960 --> 0:35:58.239 both of these guys can spin a football man, and 0:35:58.280 --> 0:36:00.960 I mean they could make deep throw look like little 0:36:00.960 --> 0:36:04.680 five yard passes. They're so beautiful when they're doing it. 0:36:04.719 --> 0:36:07.520 And I've thought about, like you said, when you you 0:36:07.600 --> 0:36:09.960 were a aligneman, you know, you come in, the guy 0:36:10.040 --> 0:36:12.560 teaches you, and you the ropes and the guy comes 0:36:12.600 --> 0:36:14.520 behind you and you're like, hey, let me show you 0:36:14.560 --> 0:36:16.520 what you need to do to be successful in this league. 0:36:16.520 --> 0:36:18.480 And that's that's what makes the NFL so special. 0:36:18.560 --> 0:36:20.920 Absolutely, it's a big fraternity. It's a pass it down, 0:36:21.040 --> 0:36:23.840 you know type deal. Anything that you can do to 0:36:23.880 --> 0:36:27.040 help the next generation of football players to make the 0:36:27.120 --> 0:36:32.000 National Football League better and improve the product for the 0:36:32.080 --> 0:36:34.200 consumption of the general public, man, you're going to do it, 0:36:34.239 --> 0:36:40.000 you know. I will say that that Joe Burrow and 0:36:40.080 --> 0:36:42.840 Joe Flackel are definitely cut from the same cloth. I 0:36:42.840 --> 0:36:46.799 mean they have they have more similarities than differences in 0:36:46.840 --> 0:36:50.839 their overall personality, the type of person that they are, 0:36:50.880 --> 0:36:52.840 the way they commuter, communicate with others. 0:36:53.360 --> 0:36:53.640 Uh. 0:36:53.719 --> 0:36:58.680 And then from a football standpoint, it's even fewer differences 0:36:58.680 --> 0:37:02.920 and more similarities. They they're they're cut from the same cloth. 0:37:02.920 --> 0:37:05.279 There's no question about it. They see the game of 0:37:05.280 --> 0:37:08.719 football through the same set of eyes. The same things 0:37:08.719 --> 0:37:13.759 are important for victory, keys to getting things done. That 0:37:13.760 --> 0:37:17.719 that doesn't differentiate much between these two guys. So, uh, 0:37:18.000 --> 0:37:21.680 you know, again, I thought two things that that that 0:37:21.680 --> 0:37:24.080 the Bengals were able to do to support Joe Flacco, 0:37:24.640 --> 0:37:28.120 and what they do to support Joe Burrow when they 0:37:28.160 --> 0:37:32.360 win football games is run the football efficiently and don't 0:37:32.440 --> 0:37:36.160 give the football away. You know, win the turnover battle. 0:37:36.280 --> 0:37:40.200 Go plus one plus two plus three, and you're gonna 0:37:40.200 --> 0:37:41.200 be in high cotton. 0:37:41.200 --> 0:37:42.719 No question about it. We'll take a break and come 0:37:42.719 --> 0:37:43.879 back and wrap up this first hour. 0:37:43.880 --> 0:37:46.919 Are you listening to the Bengals pet rally So broadcasting 0:37:47.000 --> 0:37:49.760 live and on the Rye presented by Just Bear Chicken 0:37:49.840 --> 0:37:51.520 on the Bengals Radio Network. 0:37:52.600 --> 0:37:53.560 The Bingles pep. 0:37:53.400 --> 0:37:56.040 Rally So presented by Just Bear Chicken on the Bengals 0:37:56.120 --> 0:37:59.440 Radio Network, Broadcasting live from on the Rhine one other 0:37:59.560 --> 0:38:01.400 Courts three, Downtown Cincinnati. 0:38:01.400 --> 0:38:02.960 I'll tell you what. Let me give you a couple 0:38:03.000 --> 0:38:03.600 of restaurants. 0:38:03.600 --> 0:38:06.840 Here are eighteen eighty three Home the World Famous Club 0:38:06.920 --> 0:38:11.840 Kroger Karaoke Karaoke, Dope Asian Street Food and It's dope. 0:38:12.000 --> 0:38:14.880 Queen City Burger Company, best Burger's in the city. You 0:38:15.000 --> 0:38:18.680 had them, Snow Fox, Poke Boat Chicken Fresh Sushie. My 0:38:18.719 --> 0:38:21.080 wife has that right now. Sit over there eating sushi 0:38:21.719 --> 0:38:24.800 and Kitchen eighteen eighty three Smoke wings and fresh salad. 0:38:24.840 --> 0:38:27.120 And I'm waiting on some smoke wings and fresh salad 0:38:27.239 --> 0:38:27.640 right now. 0:38:28.239 --> 0:38:31.120 But join us. We'll be here till six o'clock. TJ. 0:38:31.239 --> 0:38:32.719 Slayton joined us in the final hour. 0:38:33.120 --> 0:38:35.839 But again, Dave Lapham, you know one of the other 0:38:35.880 --> 0:38:38.880 things I liked about last night, and people get tired 0:38:38.960 --> 0:38:41.080 of you guys talking about it, but it is the 0:38:41.200 --> 0:38:45.000 culture of the NFL. You have to run the football. 0:38:45.480 --> 0:38:48.520 It sets up everything else. It buys you. Play action 0:38:48.719 --> 0:38:52.160 can buy you a split second four linebacker, the respect, 0:38:52.200 --> 0:38:55.520 the fact you may run, create space on the backside 0:38:55.560 --> 0:38:58.799 of that level and maybe get some opportunities there that 0:38:58.840 --> 0:39:01.920 wouldn't be there. Or in this game, a half a 0:39:01.960 --> 0:39:04.759 second or a split second is everything it is. 0:39:04.840 --> 0:39:08.000 And if you can run the football and then have 0:39:08.080 --> 0:39:11.160 a play action game, play action passing game off of 0:39:11.239 --> 0:39:14.160 that exact running play, the players that you're running the 0:39:14.160 --> 0:39:17.799 football at the opposing defense, and then you put the 0:39:17.840 --> 0:39:19.719 ball in the back's belly and pull it out of 0:39:19.760 --> 0:39:25.120 there and run routes, and you're gonna find yourself in 0:39:25.120 --> 0:39:27.520 a high cott and you're gonna find yourself making making 0:39:27.520 --> 0:39:31.000 some yards and scoring points. There's no question about it. 0:39:31.040 --> 0:39:35.120 So it's imperative. Me got to run the football. And 0:39:35.160 --> 0:39:37.920 then you know, in order to Aaron Rodgers is the 0:39:37.960 --> 0:39:41.080 master of play action passing as well, and in order 0:39:41.120 --> 0:39:45.080 to limit that effectiveness, you got to you gotta handle 0:39:45.080 --> 0:39:47.440 the running game. And I thought the Bengals, for the 0:39:47.440 --> 0:39:50.799 most part, did a decent job handling the running game 0:39:50.840 --> 0:39:54.399 of the Pittsburgh Steelers. I mean, the Bengals put thirty 0:39:54.440 --> 0:39:55.800 three points up on the board, but they had a 0:39:55.840 --> 0:39:58.080 quarterback through for Amal Street in fifty yards, had a 0:39:58.120 --> 0:40:00.560 running back go for a buck fifty, the other running 0:40:00.560 --> 0:40:03.520 back go for ninety. Jamar Chase went for almost a 0:40:03.560 --> 0:40:06.200 buck fifty. T Higgins goes for ninety. I mean they 0:40:06.239 --> 0:40:11.239 had weapons everywhere. Why because they ran the football and 0:40:11.280 --> 0:40:14.000 then they could play action pass off of that. And 0:40:14.239 --> 0:40:17.720 everybody ate, man and everybody ate heartily, everybody hardly. 0:40:17.760 --> 0:40:20.720 In the first quarter, you look at that rushing yards 0:40:20.719 --> 0:40:23.040 in the first quarter, forty four for the Steelers, third 0:40:23.120 --> 0:40:26.520 fourteen for the Bengals. Thus steals up seven to nothing. Yep, 0:40:26.800 --> 0:40:31.600 second quarter rush yards Bengals eighty three to twenty one, 0:40:31.960 --> 0:40:35.440 and all of a sudden, now it's a seventeen point game. 0:40:35.560 --> 0:40:38.480 Seventeen to three. And you look at that and say, 0:40:38.800 --> 0:40:42.120 what happened? Eighty three yards on the ground means you 0:40:42.200 --> 0:40:45.880 were really moving the chains and creating opportunities. 0:40:46.080 --> 0:40:49.320 Yeah, And the Bengals got to give them credit. They 0:40:49.440 --> 0:40:52.319 fell behind ten to nothing in this football game. First 0:40:52.360 --> 0:40:55.279 two drives, Pittsburgh had the football. They put ten points 0:40:55.320 --> 0:40:57.120 in the board, and the Bengals at that point were 0:40:57.160 --> 0:40:59.840 kind of stammering and stuttering a little bit, and they 0:41:00.080 --> 0:41:02.000 we weren't getting much done in that first quarter, like 0:41:02.040 --> 0:41:04.520 the numbers that you were you were just talking about there. 0:41:04.840 --> 0:41:08.600 But no quit, absolutely no quit. Didn't spit the bit, 0:41:08.719 --> 0:41:12.120 didn't you know, say, nobody came to the sideline frustrated, 0:41:12.960 --> 0:41:17.280 you know, disappointed, pointing fingers at teammates. None of that stuff. 0:41:17.280 --> 0:41:20.200 There's no finger pointing this This football team is made 0:41:20.200 --> 0:41:22.160 of the right stuff. They've got the right kind of 0:41:22.160 --> 0:41:25.640 people that are you gonna say, you know what, We're 0:41:25.640 --> 0:41:28.120 gonna play every snap in the football game. We're not 0:41:28.120 --> 0:41:30.560 gonna quit in any single one of them, and hopefully 0:41:30.600 --> 0:41:33.680 we'll have more productive snaps than non productive and. 0:41:33.719 --> 0:41:34.279 We're gonna win. 0:41:34.360 --> 0:41:36.160 We're gonna win a lot of football games. That's what 0:41:36.160 --> 0:41:37.640 it's all. About no question. 0:41:37.719 --> 0:41:40.840 We got another hour and then the hour with t. J. 0:41:41.000 --> 0:41:42.000 Slayton will be coming up. 0:41:42.000 --> 0:41:43.839 After that. 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And 0:42:54.920 --> 0:42:58.040 I'll tell you what with that all that happened last night. 0:42:58.120 --> 0:43:00.520 I know you want more Bengal gear. Get the shop, 0:43:00.560 --> 0:43:03.600 the Bingals Pro Shop find the best selection of Bengal 0:43:03.680 --> 0:43:06.439 merchandise anywhere. Visit the Pro Shop seven days a week, 0:43:06.480 --> 0:43:09.480 located on the north side of pay Corpse Stadium, or 0:43:09.600 --> 0:43:13.200 shop online at Bingles dot com. And let's go back 0:43:13.560 --> 0:43:15.959 to the media room because we get to hear from 0:43:16.080 --> 0:43:17.040 Jamar Chase. 0:43:18.360 --> 0:43:21.839 Then's how cool is it to see Joe Flacco as 0:43:21.880 --> 0:43:24.239 a bangle and obviously winning for you guys? 0:43:24.239 --> 0:43:28.719 Now, Uh, it's honestly good having him here for us, 0:43:28.760 --> 0:43:31.560 you know what I'm saying. Organization made a big jump 0:43:31.600 --> 0:43:34.319 on him. We believed that we got him. So he 0:43:34.400 --> 0:43:36.319 came in doing this thing and showing off for us. 0:43:36.440 --> 0:43:38.719 What did it be for him to go right back 0:43:38.760 --> 0:43:41.840 to you play that was really I didn't complete on 0:43:41.840 --> 0:43:44.680 the sideline then obviously the touchdown right away, just going. 0:43:44.640 --> 0:43:46.560 Right back to well, we already had the next play 0:43:46.600 --> 0:43:52.160 in already and they said I was, They said it 0:43:52.200 --> 0:43:54.719 was incomplete, and we was already in the middle of 0:43:54.760 --> 0:43:57.719 calling another play, and then you know, we just called 0:43:57.760 --> 0:43:58.120 it again. 0:43:59.239 --> 0:44:02.080 It's obvious to go on too time and time again 0:44:02.600 --> 0:44:03.920 and clutch situations. 0:44:04.320 --> 0:44:08.160 But tonight twenty three targets at whatever, sixteen catches and 0:44:08.239 --> 0:44:10.320 team record, did tonight feel different? 0:44:10.400 --> 0:44:11.360 Special? Anyway? 0:44:12.360 --> 0:44:14.120 I didn't even know I had sixteen targets, if I'm 0:44:14.200 --> 0:44:17.399 being honest, I you know, I thought I had like nine. 0:44:17.440 --> 0:44:21.400 If I'm being honest, and you feel like that many, why, 0:44:22.480 --> 0:44:23.919 I don't know. I'm not sure. 0:44:24.360 --> 0:44:28.200 Are you surprised at all? Be the way Pittsburgh's played 0:44:28.239 --> 0:44:31.719 them so many times and we've seen you do this fall. 0:44:32.000 --> 0:44:35.560 We want to Pittsburgh anything. 0:44:39.400 --> 0:44:41.319 Got a lot of many double on third down for real, 0:44:41.440 --> 0:44:43.560 try to mix it up a little bit. But now 0:44:43.600 --> 0:44:45.880 they they they did exactly what we was expecting and 0:44:45.920 --> 0:44:46.520 hoping they do. 0:44:47.360 --> 0:44:48.120 A lot of times. 0:44:48.160 --> 0:44:50.719 Three point Sharpshooters in basketball talk about when they have 0:44:50.760 --> 0:44:52.439 like a heater that they're on the zone. Is that 0:44:53.040 --> 0:44:54.759 What does it feel like when you're catching so many 0:44:54.760 --> 0:44:57.520 balls like you did today? 0:44:59.160 --> 0:45:01.040 I really can't tell you, bro, I'm just really in 0:45:01.080 --> 0:45:03.440 the moment It's like in the moment going on and 0:45:03.920 --> 0:45:05.560 you're a drilling and pumper, you need to tire, you 0:45:05.560 --> 0:45:06.839 want the ball or you want to get out. 0:45:08.280 --> 0:45:09.000 Two days ago. 0:45:11.840 --> 0:45:12.480 Getting wins. 0:45:13.160 --> 0:45:16.799 We just feel like this is what I was talking about. Man. 0:45:16.800 --> 0:45:19.640 We know were close last week. We we felt like 0:45:19.719 --> 0:45:21.800 we just figured it out about how we're gonna go 0:45:21.840 --> 0:45:25.360 about the uh black o and just the offense period. 0:45:26.360 --> 0:45:29.040 I think today showed what we really capable of and 0:45:29.160 --> 0:45:31.000 you know, show how prolific at this office really could be. 0:45:32.239 --> 0:45:35.600 After the touch of you have a touchdown move against 0:45:35.640 --> 0:45:37.279 you who you come right back on? 0:45:39.040 --> 0:45:39.200 Uh? 0:45:39.320 --> 0:45:39.600 Uh? 0:45:39.640 --> 0:45:41.200 What was more for your mind at that point when. 0:45:41.120 --> 0:45:43.080 You did you think you have first question? 0:45:44.040 --> 0:45:44.480 I mean. 0:45:46.000 --> 0:45:47.600 I I knew I had it, but I didn't think 0:45:47.600 --> 0:45:49.760 I had it all the way because when I felt 0:45:49.920 --> 0:45:52.640 it got stuck to my hip. But you know NFL, 0:45:52.760 --> 0:45:55.120 every camera angle is every camera angle, they got everything. 0:45:55.440 --> 0:46:02.160 So but uh on the touchdown. Yeah, for the next play, 0:46:04.000 --> 0:46:04.920 it was a little fade ball. 0:46:05.400 --> 0:46:08.759 He was very handsy at the top, try to get 0:46:08.760 --> 0:46:10.440 his hands off me last minute and that's when the 0:46:10.440 --> 0:46:11.000 balls in the air. 0:46:11.239 --> 0:46:13.000 The first big game that you and both had this 0:46:13.080 --> 0:46:14.959 season is this kind of what y'all thought might happen 0:46:14.960 --> 0:46:16.480 when y'all decided to resign her. 0:46:17.440 --> 0:46:19.480 This this was supposed to happen exactly. 0:46:19.560 --> 0:46:21.320 Yeah, I mean, how how good does it feel to 0:46:21.320 --> 0:46:23.960 finally have that conter, you know, just seven weeks in, 0:46:24.280 --> 0:46:25.880 but to finally kind of have that feeling? 0:46:25.880 --> 0:46:26.480 What's that like? 0:46:26.640 --> 0:46:29.080 Especially in the game like this, It feels good knowing 0:46:29.680 --> 0:46:31.480 this is exactly what we preach about all the time. 0:46:32.160 --> 0:46:34.800 This is the reason why DB's team go grab DB's 0:46:34.840 --> 0:46:37.600 and stop us. You know what I'm saying, And this 0:46:37.680 --> 0:46:40.439 is this is all we breathe, you know, as a receiver, Cord, 0:46:40.480 --> 0:46:41.200 and today was. 0:46:41.120 --> 0:46:44.239 The day that's you instead of t catching that de 0:46:44.400 --> 0:46:45.320 bo o inside of the taip. 0:46:45.520 --> 0:46:48.839 How hard would have been a slide down? I would slid. 0:46:49.360 --> 0:46:51.040 I would have slid hard to do that? 0:46:51.200 --> 0:46:53.759 No, if you want if you I mean, if you 0:46:53.800 --> 0:46:58.040 want to win, you're gonna slide. 0:46:58.120 --> 0:47:00.319 If you want to win, you're gonna slide. Is that 0:47:00.400 --> 0:47:01.279 going back to what you just said? 0:47:01.360 --> 0:47:02.160 Is that extra vindication? 0:47:02.239 --> 0:47:04.960 Steelers of retooled that DV room from last year this 0:47:05.000 --> 0:47:07.840 year brought up some beds and how much how vindicating 0:47:07.920 --> 0:47:09.239 is that that y'all were able to go out and 0:47:09.320 --> 0:47:10.480 win and the man y'all did. 0:47:12.800 --> 0:47:17.200 I mean, yeah, that's that's exactly what they were trying 0:47:17.200 --> 0:47:19.960 to do for us. But at the end of the day, 0:47:19.960 --> 0:47:22.080 you still gotta stop everybody we got chasing the backfield. 0:47:22.120 --> 0:47:24.680 We had a great running game today. Old Lion did 0:47:24.680 --> 0:47:27.120 great in protection. Fla was doing a great jobs just 0:47:27.120 --> 0:47:30.840 getting the balls out when he had pressure. So, I 0:47:30.880 --> 0:47:36.799 mean today was just an overall all around offensive Union games. 0:47:37.640 --> 0:47:41.680 Part of that game it felt good, but it was 0:47:41.760 --> 0:47:44.760 a little nervous. Nervous at the end, not gonna say nervous, 0:47:44.800 --> 0:47:45.480 but nerve racking. 0:47:45.480 --> 0:47:47.480 At the end. No one is getting down. 0:47:47.520 --> 0:47:49.160 It's two minutes under and you got a ride that 0:47:49.200 --> 0:47:51.480 those hell nervers for a living, and you know it's 0:47:51.480 --> 0:47:54.040 always ended up a touchdown, so it gets a little nervous. 0:47:54.080 --> 0:47:58.520 I think they leave the entire second half, they take 0:47:58.560 --> 0:48:00.799 the lead, what do you. 0:48:00.760 --> 0:48:04.840 Think, Um, that's what they pays the money for. At 0:48:04.880 --> 0:48:05.920 the end of the day, we got to make a 0:48:05.960 --> 0:48:07.880 play and make a play for the team, you know, 0:48:07.880 --> 0:48:09.680 and they that's that's why they got us. 0:48:09.800 --> 0:48:12.480 After last week y'all lost four straight. Tack said, you 0:48:12.520 --> 0:48:14.720 felt like yall were closed. There was a hart of positivity. 0:48:15.040 --> 0:48:17.080 How much is that message kind of resonate over the 0:48:17.120 --> 0:48:18.799 course of the week, but things have gotten tough over 0:48:18.840 --> 0:48:20.920 the years that Jack says it, and I mean, does 0:48:20.960 --> 0:48:22.080 how much does that matter to y'all? 0:48:22.160 --> 0:48:24.200 Y'all get through games through a week? 0:48:24.239 --> 0:48:27.320 I should say yeah. 0:48:27.960 --> 0:48:29.719 I mean, it means a lot just just from coming 0:48:29.719 --> 0:48:31.920 from him, but it also comes from the players too, 0:48:31.960 --> 0:48:33.440 not just exact at the end of the day, the 0:48:33.440 --> 0:48:34.520 players know what it takes. 0:48:35.080 --> 0:48:36.080 We got guys there and there. 0:48:36.080 --> 0:48:39.120 They are vocal that are being leaders. They always speak 0:48:39.200 --> 0:48:40.400 up when we have situations like this. 0:48:43.480 --> 0:48:45.520 Ow cool was it to see Joe Burrow on the 0:48:45.560 --> 0:48:47.560 sideline as well? Just a little energy shit. 0:48:48.800 --> 0:48:50.160 I didn't even know he was coming to the game 0:48:50.160 --> 0:48:51.919 and from being honest, and at the end of the game, 0:48:52.000 --> 0:48:53.839 I told him, I said, I know you miss it, brother, 0:48:53.880 --> 0:48:56.000 and we missed. I mean, I know he's out there 0:48:56.000 --> 0:48:58.200 and want to be out there. But it's good seeing 0:48:58.239 --> 0:48:58.600 him again. 0:48:59.560 --> 0:49:02.880 Two of them. 0:49:03.120 --> 0:49:06.319 Now, you don't know how big you that. Uh, it's 0:49:06.400 --> 0:49:07.279 it's good, you know. 0:49:07.560 --> 0:49:09.200 I mean that that means we're taking the right step 0:49:09.239 --> 0:49:11.640 forward and you know, you know right and we're on 0:49:11.640 --> 0:49:12.160 the right path. 0:49:14.120 --> 0:49:15.400 Been here for nine days. 0:49:15.440 --> 0:49:17.920 How have you felt such good chemistry with them so 0:49:17.960 --> 0:49:19.799 far after you were sick last week and then you 0:49:19.800 --> 0:49:20.879 had a short week this week? 0:49:21.640 --> 0:49:23.640 Uh, I'm I that's a great question. 0:49:24.120 --> 0:49:28.040 I I I don't know, man, Uh were not really 0:49:28.120 --> 0:49:29.839 throwing a ball to each other I practice either, cause 0:49:29.840 --> 0:49:32.839 it's like this week was fast walked through reps. Last 0:49:32.840 --> 0:49:35.320 week was a little off for me. So honestly, it 0:49:35.440 --> 0:49:37.239 just just coming in being a veteran, just knowing the 0:49:37.239 --> 0:49:38.920 coverages and knowing what what's his answer? 0:49:38.960 --> 0:49:40.280 I think that's that's his best reason. 0:49:40.600 --> 0:49:43.120 Did you think this kind of offensive success was possible 0:49:43.200 --> 0:49:46.280 this quickly since you guys got flocked out? 0:49:46.960 --> 0:49:48.879 I I think we knew it last week. We seen 0:49:48.920 --> 0:49:50.799 the opportunities last week, you. 0:49:50.760 --> 0:49:58.400 Should they didn't pretty much? Uh come to Yeah. 0:49:58.440 --> 0:50:00.440 Man, you know they was gonna put Joey on tea 0:50:00.480 --> 0:50:03.480 and put jailing on me, and we knew that he 0:50:03.600 --> 0:50:04.200 was ready for it. 0:50:04.440 --> 0:50:06.000 We was gonna take advantage of those opportunity. 0:50:06.520 --> 0:50:08.600 One of the Chase Brown's long runs, you ran, sprinted 0:50:08.600 --> 0:50:09.880 down the field and made a big block. 0:50:10.200 --> 0:50:11.960 All star receivers want to do that. Why did you? 0:50:12.960 --> 0:50:13.720 I got to give effort? 0:50:13.719 --> 0:50:15.239 I told Chase I gotta give him more effort on 0:50:15.280 --> 0:50:18.080 my run blocks, just because I know some of the 0:50:18.080 --> 0:50:20.040 times I don't, I don't I don't expect him to 0:50:20.040 --> 0:50:22.360 cut back to my side, and he does it the 0:50:22.440 --> 0:50:24.960 majority of the time, so I gotta give him eff more. 0:50:24.960 --> 0:50:26.520 I think this could be read. 0:50:26.600 --> 0:50:28.360 So I get a right through ninth game with one hundred. 0:50:28.120 --> 0:50:30.880 And fifty receiving yards, you passed Jerry Rice for the most 0:50:31.239 --> 0:50:33.120 in the first five seasons. What's it like to kind 0:50:33.120 --> 0:50:35.800 of here you kind of in that conversation and pastor 0:50:35.800 --> 0:50:44.279 Gully Jerry. 0:50:41.120 --> 0:50:44.080 It's cool. I don't even really know what I don't. 0:50:44.239 --> 0:50:46.200 I would never know what that is until y'all tell 0:50:46.239 --> 0:50:47.319 me at the end of the day, you know. So 0:50:48.680 --> 0:50:50.799 it's cool opportunity hearing it, man. But I still got 0:50:50.840 --> 0:50:52.320 a long way to go, and that's to go to 0:50:52.320 --> 0:50:53.640 get a Super Bowl and then go jacket. 0:50:53.719 --> 0:50:55.759 Cherry's got a ton of records. Is that growing up 0:50:55.880 --> 0:50:57.360 something that you've thought about? And the kind of the 0:50:57.400 --> 0:50:59.319 numbers and his career how much? 0:51:00.560 --> 0:51:05.040 No, if I'm being no, Yeah, second game with at 0:51:05.120 --> 0:51:06.840 least fourteen catches this year? 0:51:07.480 --> 0:51:07.719 Did it? 0:51:08.600 --> 0:51:10.200 And you said he felt like he had only l 0:51:10.200 --> 0:51:12.759 eight or nine. Did it feel different? Maybe compared to 0:51:12.800 --> 0:51:23.520 that Jacksonville game you have fourteen. No, not really, you 0:51:23.520 --> 0:51:23.799 know that. 0:51:23.880 --> 0:51:24.120 I know. 0:51:24.320 --> 0:51:26.200 The only game that I felt like I had a 0:51:26.239 --> 0:51:28.919 lot of passes the Cardinals game on the Asy game. 0:51:28.960 --> 0:51:31.000 But that game and this game didn't really feel like 0:51:31.000 --> 0:51:31.440 I had a lot. 0:51:35.719 --> 0:51:37.520 All right, that's de mar Chase and I was just 0:51:37.520 --> 0:51:41.080 looking at his target forty five over three weeks and 0:51:41.840 --> 0:51:45.080 rightfully so. If there's a guy that probably would never 0:51:45.120 --> 0:51:47.200 get tired of running routes and you're throwing the ball 0:51:47.239 --> 0:51:48.760 to him, is to mar Chase. 0:51:48.800 --> 0:51:52.359 But I will say this, and I have to say this, I. 0:51:52.440 --> 0:51:57.000 Love the humility and the recognition of being the number 0:51:57.040 --> 0:52:00.239 two guy that T Higgins is. He could power, he 0:52:00.280 --> 0:52:03.560 could complain, he could say whatever. He understands. His role 0:52:03.680 --> 0:52:04.080 is just. 0:52:04.040 --> 0:52:07.120 As important, and it's just important in a different way. 0:52:07.560 --> 0:52:11.719 Absolutely. I mean, those two guys have a very unique relationship. 0:52:11.760 --> 0:52:16.440 There's no doubt about it. T. Higgins is an important 0:52:16.760 --> 0:52:20.840 player on this football team. In my mind, Chase and 0:52:20.920 --> 0:52:23.719 Higgins is the best combination, best one two punch at 0:52:23.719 --> 0:52:27.360 the receiver position in the entire National Football League. They 0:52:27.400 --> 0:52:30.879 feed off each other, they have great respect for each 0:52:30.920 --> 0:52:35.920 other's game. They're glad they're teammates. And the one thing 0:52:36.120 --> 0:52:42.640 two things about Jamar Chase in that interview, a postgame interview, 0:52:43.840 --> 0:52:48.439 willingness to block. Superstar receivers are allergic to block. It's 0:52:48.440 --> 0:52:51.480 a foreign concept. They don't want any part of it. 0:52:51.719 --> 0:52:53.480 They want to stay as far away from it as 0:52:53.480 --> 0:52:56.920 they can. Jamar Chase goes out there and sticks his 0:52:56.960 --> 0:52:59.960 nose right in there, right in the middle of the action. Man, 0:53:00.160 --> 0:53:03.840 I mean he is. He'll motion from outside the inside 0:53:04.280 --> 0:53:07.040 and block, you know, in the box where a lot 0:53:07.040 --> 0:53:10.400 of traffic is a lot of a lot of fierce 0:53:10.480 --> 0:53:13.560 hitting goes on in there. He wants to be part 0:53:13.560 --> 0:53:17.080 of it. And the other thing when he slid to 0:53:17.160 --> 0:53:19.280 take the you know at the end of the football 0:53:19.320 --> 0:53:22.680 game after a twenty five yard catch, you know, run 0:53:22.680 --> 0:53:27.120 and catch, catch and run, he slides. Okay, Well, is 0:53:27.120 --> 0:53:29.640 that that that big a deal? Yeah? And he could 0:53:29.680 --> 0:53:34.600 have scored Okay, last year Triple Crown winner catches yards touchdown. Yeah, 0:53:35.560 --> 0:53:38.080 you don't think the guy is interested in scoring touchdowns? 0:53:38.080 --> 0:53:40.760 Hell yeah, he is. That's one of his primary roles 0:53:41.120 --> 0:53:43.520 as a great receiver on the football team. But the 0:53:43.560 --> 0:53:45.600 coaches when they sent the player and it's like if 0:53:45.600 --> 0:53:47.239 you make the play and catch the football, get on 0:53:47.239 --> 0:53:50.040 the ground, and uh, we'll win the football game. And 0:53:50.360 --> 0:53:52.640 when asked, now, why did you go to the ground 0:53:52.719 --> 0:53:55.680 like that? To win the game? That's the object of 0:53:55.719 --> 0:53:57.520 the plan, win the game. 0:53:57.760 --> 0:54:01.560 Yeah, there's some guys out there, there's stats stataholics, absolutely, 0:54:01.560 --> 0:54:02.240 and all they want. 0:54:02.080 --> 0:54:03.280 To do is pad those numbers. 0:54:03.920 --> 0:54:07.040 This is how you win the big one when everybody 0:54:07.120 --> 0:54:10.440 is selfless and team is bigger than individual. We'll take 0:54:10.440 --> 0:54:12.000 a break, we'll come back with more. You're listening to 0:54:12.040 --> 0:54:15.480 the Bengals pep rally So broadcasting Live and on the 0:54:15.520 --> 0:54:18.800 Ryan presented by just Bear Chicking on the Bengals Radio Network. 0:54:20.360 --> 0:54:23.279 The Bengals pep rally So Broadcasting Live from on the 0:54:23.400 --> 0:54:26.360 Rhyme presented by just Bear Ticking on the Bengals Radio Network, 0:54:26.360 --> 0:54:30.080 Wayne Box, Miller, Dave Lapham and DJ Turner. 0:54:30.120 --> 0:54:32.600 To my left here, he just picked off one of 0:54:32.600 --> 0:54:36.120 my pieces of chick great pig, Mike. That was just 0:54:36.160 --> 0:54:38.479 like he did. DK Metcalf LT. Now know how DK 0:54:38.560 --> 0:54:40.719 Metcalf feels after being with Mike. 0:54:40.800 --> 0:54:41.439 He was so good. 0:54:43.280 --> 0:54:43.799 He took wa. 0:54:45.880 --> 0:54:47.759 Hey, don't forget the best care for the best fans 0:54:47.840 --> 0:54:50.800 gathering the Health official healthcare provider of the Cincinnati Bengals. 0:54:51.040 --> 0:54:51.520 You'll lap. 0:54:51.560 --> 0:54:54.560 One of the other things I thought last night was 0:54:54.680 --> 0:55:00.279 so good was I love when guys who aren't playing 0:55:01.480 --> 0:55:05.120 all out, all in on the sideline into the game. 0:55:06.040 --> 0:55:09.680 And I'm not saying this in a demeaning way, but cheerleaders, Yeah, 0:55:09.800 --> 0:55:12.799 I mean they're like, hey, man, I want us to 0:55:12.880 --> 0:55:15.479 win and beat these Steelers and get back in this game. 0:55:15.560 --> 0:55:18.840 And the enthusiasm that the guys have on this team. 0:55:19.480 --> 0:55:21.799 It's been this way since Zach has been here. There's 0:55:21.840 --> 0:55:25.640 this mutual admiration society that exists on this team. 0:55:25.719 --> 0:55:27.399 I agree with you. I mean it's a brotherhood, man, 0:55:27.920 --> 0:55:31.240 you know, a big fraternity. And I thought Logan Wilson 0:55:31.280 --> 0:55:33.080 is a good example of what you're talking about. I mean, 0:55:33.200 --> 0:55:37.719 Logan Wilson didn't get many snaps in last night's football game, 0:55:38.160 --> 0:55:39.880 but when he did get in the in the game 0:55:40.200 --> 0:55:43.440 and Al Golden ran two different schemes. He ran a 0:55:43.440 --> 0:55:45.719 five to two defense and Logan Wilson wasn't part of 0:55:45.760 --> 0:55:48.319 the four to three defense. Logan Wilson was a big 0:55:48.320 --> 0:55:51.319 part of it, and he mixed and matched. You know 0:55:51.440 --> 0:55:58.240 that those two defensive configurations into what Pittsburgh was doing 0:55:58.640 --> 0:56:02.719 offensively in terms of four mation's motion play selection, that 0:56:02.840 --> 0:56:06.600 sort of thing. So Logan Wilson, when he was out 0:56:06.600 --> 0:56:08.759 of the football game on the sideline, he was the 0:56:08.800 --> 0:56:12.359 first one to greet any defensive football team coming off 0:56:12.400 --> 0:56:15.320 the field. You know, he was right at al Golden 0:56:15.360 --> 0:56:18.400 shoulder listening, you know, maybe who knows, maybe making a 0:56:18.440 --> 0:56:21.799 comment or two of things that he observed. So, I mean, 0:56:22.239 --> 0:56:25.640 Logan Wilson, it's been a Bengal for a while, and 0:56:26.239 --> 0:56:29.120 I'm sure it hurt, you know that his role changed, 0:56:29.600 --> 0:56:32.719 But he's all in. He's still a Cincinnati Bengal. He 0:56:32.800 --> 0:56:35.080 wants to win football games. He wants his teammates to 0:56:35.080 --> 0:56:40.560 do well. He wants the city to finally celebrate a 0:56:40.760 --> 0:56:43.840 Super Bowl championship, if not that, at least inn AFC 0:56:43.920 --> 0:56:48.120 championship on his watch while he's playing for the Cincinnati Bengals. 0:56:48.160 --> 0:56:50.320 So here we go, Here. 0:56:50.160 --> 0:56:52.440 We go, and I have to remind people, you know 0:56:52.560 --> 0:56:55.480 that this is a super Bowl caliber team, but it 0:56:55.520 --> 0:56:58.279 is not the Super Bowl team right, only about nine 0:56:58.320 --> 0:57:01.400 guys remaining from that team. But this team has a 0:57:01.520 --> 0:57:05.600 talent at every position. And let's stop for a second, 0:57:06.080 --> 0:57:09.160 and give kudos to that offensive line because whether it 0:57:09.200 --> 0:57:13.360 was ron blocking or pass blocking, the offensive line last 0:57:13.440 --> 0:57:16.160 night and they went up against a formidable defense, and 0:57:16.160 --> 0:57:20.000 that offensive line had held their own all night long. 0:57:20.120 --> 0:57:22.360 And and Joe Flacco one of the first things he 0:57:22.400 --> 0:57:25.440 did well. The offensive line had a heck of a game. 0:57:26.000 --> 0:57:27.880 They were they were getting it done. They were operating 0:57:27.880 --> 0:57:31.080 at a very high level. And in this football game. 0:57:31.360 --> 0:57:35.080 Kudos to Joe Flacco to give credit to his offensive 0:57:35.120 --> 0:57:37.960 line in such a meaningful way. You know, in the 0:57:37.960 --> 0:57:41.760 postgame pressure and I've talked to some of the offensive line, 0:57:41.800 --> 0:57:45.760 they already loved Joe Flacco. Man Flacco gets it. He understands, 0:57:46.080 --> 0:57:50.680 you know, things that that offensive line. He dangles to carrot, 0:57:50.720 --> 0:57:53.960 you know, he he he throws it out there. He 0:57:54.000 --> 0:57:57.560 throws compliments out there, and you know they they respond. 0:57:57.640 --> 0:58:03.360 I mean, there's not it's a it's a very unsung 0:58:03.760 --> 0:58:06.200 thing to do playing the offensive line. You never touched 0:58:06.200 --> 0:58:08.520 the football, you know, you don't have any stats other 0:58:08.520 --> 0:58:11.840 than fumble recoveries. Maybe you recover one he first touchdown 0:58:11.960 --> 0:58:15.360 and have a career touchdowns scored. But I mean that, uh, 0:58:15.520 --> 0:58:18.600 that is a very thankless position. It can be a 0:58:18.600 --> 0:58:22.480 lonely position if you make a mistake and uh, you know, 0:58:22.520 --> 0:58:26.120 you get called out about it. So Joe flacko understands 0:58:26.160 --> 0:58:28.360 he needs an offensive line in front of him. He 0:58:28.400 --> 0:58:31.480 ain't no dummy. He's been around the NFL and succeeded 0:58:31.480 --> 0:58:34.320 at a high level for many reasons, and one of 0:58:34.320 --> 0:58:37.920 them is he's a hell of a good teammate, loyal 0:58:37.960 --> 0:58:39.760 to his teammates, and he's got football like you. 0:58:40.240 --> 0:58:44.120 Very approachable, very professional, very classy. I was leaving last night. 0:58:44.520 --> 0:58:48.200 Obviously we're we're there late, long after the game is over. Sure, 0:58:48.240 --> 0:58:51.200 he was properly out there with the Prime crew. But 0:58:51.520 --> 0:58:54.400 I turned a corner and here comes six five Joe 0:58:54.400 --> 0:58:57.280 flack on five to five Wayne box Miller, and uh, 0:58:57.440 --> 0:58:59.760 you know, I did what any short now would do, 0:58:59.760 --> 0:59:04.640 I guess in his way. Uh but but I you know, 0:59:04.680 --> 0:59:07.920 and I stopped and I said, you know, had introduced myself. 0:59:07.960 --> 0:59:08.880 I do Bengals Radio. 0:59:08.960 --> 0:59:11.240 I said, hey, I'm on the area, you guys, I said, 0:59:11.240 --> 0:59:13.480 I just wanted to say, man, thank you. This guy 0:59:13.600 --> 0:59:16.600 stopped dead in his tracks and just held a conversation. Yeah, 0:59:16.640 --> 0:59:18.400 looks right in the eye, right, you know. Not not 0:59:18.640 --> 0:59:21.120 I'm talking and leaning because I got to go right. 0:59:21.760 --> 0:59:23.600 But no, I'm going to stop look you and eye 0:59:23.640 --> 0:59:26.600 and talk to you. And obviously I respected his time 0:59:26.640 --> 0:59:28.960 as well. I said maybe two more things and said, hey, 0:59:28.960 --> 0:59:31.600 man again, just wanted to stay it low and he said, man, 0:59:31.600 --> 0:59:32.360 I appreciate it. 0:59:32.480 --> 0:59:34.720 Yeah, you appreciate it. And he did. I mean, he 0:59:34.760 --> 0:59:37.200 appreciated that coming from your box, you know. And uh, 0:59:37.640 --> 0:59:42.960 you know, Flack, Oh, he's just talking again with the 0:59:43.040 --> 0:59:45.240 offensive lineman in the locker room. They say he is 0:59:45.320 --> 0:59:48.120 just a great person, you know, he just understand he 0:59:48.120 --> 0:59:50.960 was raised right, he's uh, you know, part of a 0:59:51.000 --> 0:59:55.320 great family. They're super proud of him. They support him. 0:59:55.720 --> 0:59:59.400 He's got a beautiful wife and children. You know, he's 1:00:00.440 --> 1:00:03.240 he's settled in man, you know, and he wants to 1:00:03.240 --> 1:00:06.160 make Cincinnati his home, you know, during the football he's 1:00:06.160 --> 1:00:09.720 I'm sure his family will still live where they live 1:00:09.760 --> 1:00:11.520 on a year round basis. I'm not sure he wants 1:00:11.560 --> 1:00:13.960 to disrupt their schooling and all that sort of thing. 1:00:14.040 --> 1:00:18.360 But he's a big plus for any community. 1:00:18.120 --> 1:00:21.040 No question about it. And we talked about it last night. 1:00:21.080 --> 1:00:23.320 And while I'm not Zach Taylor and I can't give 1:00:23.320 --> 1:00:25.600 his wife a game ball, like I'll give her a 1:00:25.640 --> 1:00:28.320 chicken wing. I mean, you know, a game chicken wing, 1:00:28.440 --> 1:00:29.680 because you know what she did. 1:00:30.000 --> 1:00:30.200 You know. 1:00:30.360 --> 1:00:32.680 Yeah, they say every behind every good man is a 1:00:32.680 --> 1:00:33.800 good woman. And here's a. 1:00:33.760 --> 1:00:36.480 Guy, you know, coming down to Cincinnati and then the 1:00:36.480 --> 1:00:39.480 wife say, I'm taking notes to helping out. We're gonna 1:00:39.560 --> 1:00:41.960 we're going to get this done and get you ready. 1:00:42.040 --> 1:00:44.200 And there's nothing wrong with a good teammate. 1:00:44.360 --> 1:00:46.720 Yeah, I mean, he said that the whole ride down 1:00:46.800 --> 1:00:50.800 from Cleveland to Cincinnati. She would give a formation, he 1:00:50.880 --> 1:00:53.320 give the play, She gave the play. He gave the formation. 1:00:53.480 --> 1:00:57.800 He said. She was his study partner, and so hey, 1:00:58.000 --> 1:01:01.400 kudos to her. She had a big influence on the 1:01:01.440 --> 1:01:04.880 success of the football team, and I'm sure she's very 1:01:04.880 --> 1:01:05.880 happy about it. 1:01:05.800 --> 1:01:07.560 No question about. We'll take a break. We're gonna hear 1:01:07.600 --> 1:01:09.280 from Brook pryor from ESPN Pittsburgh. 1:01:09.320 --> 1:01:11.480 On the other side, you're listening to the Bengals pep 1:01:11.560 --> 1:01:14.680 Rally Show broadcasting live. I'm on the Rhine presented by 1:01:14.880 --> 1:01:20.800 Just Bear Chicken on the Bengals Radio Network. Welcome back 1:01:20.840 --> 1:01:23.680 to the Bengals pep Rally Show, broadcasting live from on 1:01:23.880 --> 1:01:26.960 the Ryan Eatery one hunder Court Street presented by Just 1:01:27.080 --> 1:01:30.800 Bear Chicken, Don't Forget Friday Night Strikes presented by Ohio 1:01:30.920 --> 1:01:33.960 Kat celebrating high school football across the region with games, 1:01:33.960 --> 1:01:38.440 giveaways and who they spirit Catch the Bengals in your community. 1:01:39.040 --> 1:01:40.200 Time to go to the hotline. 1:01:40.240 --> 1:01:43.560 This young lady, I'm telling you she knows football, she 1:01:43.680 --> 1:01:47.760 knows Pittsburgh Silver Football. Sure she can get it done. Yes, 1:01:48.000 --> 1:01:51.320 put it down in writing. Pleasure to Welcome to the show, Brook, 1:01:51.360 --> 1:01:52.480 pryor Brooke, How are you. 1:01:52.480 --> 1:01:53.320 My friend? 1:01:54.320 --> 1:01:57.440 I am great to know that I've had two or 1:01:57.440 --> 1:02:00.560 three cold birds today. I've lost track a little bit 1:02:00.640 --> 1:02:03.960 that day after a primetime game. Game just I mean 1:02:04.040 --> 1:02:04.400 hits you. 1:02:04.520 --> 1:02:05.240 Like a bus. 1:02:05.320 --> 1:02:05.720 It is. 1:02:05.840 --> 1:02:08.840 It is brutal, you know. 1:02:08.960 --> 1:02:11.360 I tell you this was a game that many people 1:02:11.400 --> 1:02:16.080 thought would be a great game defensively, and it turned 1:02:16.120 --> 1:02:18.160 into a great game offensively. 1:02:18.760 --> 1:02:20.240 In your opinion, what happened? 1:02:21.920 --> 1:02:25.040 That is the million dollar question. I mean, I think 1:02:25.040 --> 1:02:28.240 we can all see why Mike Tomlin did not want 1:02:28.240 --> 1:02:30.640 to face Joe Flacco and why he was so mad 1:02:30.640 --> 1:02:34.840 at Andrew Berry. I think that what happened is that 1:02:34.840 --> 1:02:37.400 the Steelers couldn't stop the run, and that's really where 1:02:37.440 --> 1:02:40.520 it all started to fall apart, where the wheels started 1:02:40.560 --> 1:02:44.960 to come off, and then they clearly nothing was working 1:02:45.120 --> 1:02:48.040 on Jamar Chase and T Higgins. I think Joe Flacco 1:02:48.400 --> 1:02:50.880 did a really good job getting the ball out of 1:02:50.880 --> 1:02:53.080 his hands quickly. He knew where he wanted to go 1:02:53.120 --> 1:02:55.920 with the ball, which is incredibly impressive only being with 1:02:55.960 --> 1:02:59.600 the team for ten days and just having those veteran instincts, 1:02:59.680 --> 1:03:03.360 being Holm cool, collected all those Joe Cool things. The 1:03:03.400 --> 1:03:06.320 Steelers defense just didn't have any answer for it. And 1:03:06.360 --> 1:03:09.320 I think that if you're the Steelers and you're Mike Tomlin, 1:03:09.560 --> 1:03:14.360 you were very open about building a secondary specifically for 1:03:14.440 --> 1:03:16.200 the Bengals to be able to match up with T 1:03:16.360 --> 1:03:20.200 Higgins and Jamar Chase. This is a really bad look. 1:03:20.280 --> 1:03:23.240 This is a really bad kind of first result because 1:03:23.280 --> 1:03:27.920 it showed that the scheme is not effective and that 1:03:27.960 --> 1:03:31.600 your players might be too old, even though you've gone 1:03:31.640 --> 1:03:34.200 out to get them, they're just not in the right shape. 1:03:35.040 --> 1:03:39.080 Jalen Ramsey Darius Slay older in their careers, Jalen Ramsey 1:03:39.120 --> 1:03:41.960 also coming off of a hamstring injury on a short week. 1:03:42.280 --> 1:03:45.520 They just don't have the same abilities that they did 1:03:45.560 --> 1:03:48.520 earlier in their careers, so it was really just a 1:03:48.560 --> 1:03:49.880 failure top to bottom. 1:03:51.440 --> 1:03:56.840 Are you surprised at all that the Pittsburgh Steelers, Mike 1:03:56.880 --> 1:04:02.800 Tomlin as the head coach and then the defensive coordinator 1:04:03.560 --> 1:04:06.840 Terrell Austin, did not make adjustments? You know that they 1:04:06.840 --> 1:04:10.240 were slow in making adjustments to what the Cincinnati Bengals 1:04:10.280 --> 1:04:14.160 were doing offensively, particularly with you know, a new quarterback 1:04:14.240 --> 1:04:16.080 and you know you know he's going to go to 1:04:16.120 --> 1:04:20.600 the top two receivers, but they the Bengals were doing 1:04:20.600 --> 1:04:25.160 it in different ways, different formations, motion, personnel groupings, that 1:04:25.240 --> 1:04:28.600 sort of thing. Were you surprised that Pittsburgh had difficulty 1:04:28.600 --> 1:04:29.160 handling it? 1:04:30.600 --> 1:04:32.960 No, And I'm not surprised because this is what I've 1:04:32.960 --> 1:04:35.720 seen out of this defense pretty much as long as 1:04:35.720 --> 1:04:38.320 I've been here, although the last couple of years have 1:04:38.560 --> 1:04:41.720 been worse. This defense is not great at making in 1:04:41.920 --> 1:04:47.360 game adjustments, and they're definitely not good at preparation on 1:04:47.400 --> 1:04:50.120 a short week. Mike Tomlin's now oh to seven on 1:04:50.200 --> 1:04:55.480 Thursday night games against divisional road opponents. So for whatever reason, 1:04:55.920 --> 1:04:59.880 this is what trips them up. And the kind of 1:05:00.240 --> 1:05:04.320 flat footedness of the defense and the inability to adjust, 1:05:04.880 --> 1:05:08.919 I think is a root of the problem. But that's 1:05:09.160 --> 1:05:13.240 that's how he coaches, that's how Carol Austin calls it. 1:05:13.360 --> 1:05:16.880 This has been a recurring theme of the defense not 1:05:17.000 --> 1:05:20.680 being able to adjust in the second half or throughout 1:05:20.680 --> 1:05:22.920 the game. So I wish I could say I was surprised, 1:05:22.960 --> 1:05:23.320 but I'm not. 1:05:24.880 --> 1:05:27.720 You know, Brooke standing on the defensive side of the ball. 1:05:28.360 --> 1:05:33.000 I've watched Joey Porter Junior, and I mean me personally, 1:05:33.000 --> 1:05:36.080 I'm not a coach, I don't have NFL credentials, but 1:05:36.160 --> 1:05:40.800 it seems like to me, I'm just not impressed with him. 1:05:40.960 --> 1:05:41.160 You know. 1:05:41.360 --> 1:05:44.040 I think that he was really frustrated after the game. 1:05:44.080 --> 1:05:47.520 He felt like it wasn't called fairly. I don't necessarily 1:05:47.560 --> 1:05:51.240 agree with that. I tend to agree with Jalen Ramsey 1:05:51.280 --> 1:05:53.840 that the calls don't matter. It was, you know, up 1:05:53.840 --> 1:05:56.560 to the DBS to make the plays and be better. 1:05:57.160 --> 1:06:00.160 I think that Joey has just been kind of a 1:06:00.160 --> 1:06:03.120 little up and down. He was hurt early in the season. 1:06:03.160 --> 1:06:05.320 I think he's still trying to come back from that 1:06:05.400 --> 1:06:08.400 soft tissue injury, but it's made his development not be 1:06:08.520 --> 1:06:12.720 quite as linear as I expected. I think that he 1:06:13.480 --> 1:06:16.120 tends to fall into this trap of he hand fights 1:06:16.160 --> 1:06:18.640 and then he gets penalized, and then he doesn't really 1:06:18.760 --> 1:06:21.480 correct anything he said. You know, I tried to talk 1:06:21.520 --> 1:06:23.280 with the officials about what I was doing, but they 1:06:23.440 --> 1:06:27.120 didn't want to have an educational conversation. That's not great, 1:06:27.880 --> 1:06:30.320 not a good look to complain about the officials after that, 1:06:30.360 --> 1:06:33.360 And then he's been a step slow on some of those, 1:06:33.520 --> 1:06:35.919 on some of that man to man. So I think 1:06:36.000 --> 1:06:39.160 that it's not that all hope is lost for him 1:06:39.160 --> 1:06:41.920 by any means. I think that he still has another 1:06:42.000 --> 1:06:45.160 level that he can get to, but the development hasn't 1:06:45.200 --> 1:06:47.720 been as consistent as you'd like to see it. 1:06:48.880 --> 1:06:49.080 You know. 1:06:49.160 --> 1:06:52.040 I think part of that is, as a coach used 1:06:52.040 --> 1:06:54.320 to tell me, when you talk a lot to draw 1:06:54.360 --> 1:06:57.640 attention to yourself, and I think. 1:06:57.440 --> 1:06:58.560 He's one of those guys. 1:06:58.600 --> 1:07:02.200 But on other side of the ball, Aaron Rodgers, I mean, 1:07:02.880 --> 1:07:05.200 he still has a spin on that ball that just 1:07:05.640 --> 1:07:07.960 he and Flacco both and Dave talked about it earlier. 1:07:08.040 --> 1:07:11.600 But sometime I wonder, just like the first inn Sepsy threw, 1:07:12.480 --> 1:07:15.600 was that a matter of him thinking that his guy 1:07:15.680 --> 1:07:17.720 was just gonna turn that into a fifty to fifty 1:07:17.720 --> 1:07:19.480 ball or was it just simply, in your mind a 1:07:19.520 --> 1:07:20.080 bad throw. 1:07:21.640 --> 1:07:23.240 I think it was maybe a little bit of both. 1:07:23.280 --> 1:07:26.040 I forget what his answer was about it after the game, 1:07:26.080 --> 1:07:30.040 that he just made a bad decision, but you know, 1:07:30.440 --> 1:07:32.920 and then the other one was just a great play 1:07:33.000 --> 1:07:35.920 by the defender to wrestle it away from DK Metcalf, 1:07:36.000 --> 1:07:40.480 and DK was really frustrated about on himself for that, 1:07:40.640 --> 1:07:44.080 for letting that happen. But I mean, outside of those 1:07:44.360 --> 1:07:48.240 two interceptions and really just one interception that was I 1:07:48.280 --> 1:07:51.920 think a mental error by Aaron Rodgers, I was really 1:07:51.960 --> 1:07:54.360 impressed with him. I mean, this has now been two 1:07:54.400 --> 1:07:56.680 weeks in a row or just you know, four or 1:07:56.680 --> 1:07:59.919 five days in a row, or games separated by that much. 1:08:00.440 --> 1:08:03.640 Seeing him be able to extend the play, move around 1:08:03.680 --> 1:08:06.480 in the pocket by time. I mean the touchdown of 1:08:06.560 --> 1:08:09.480 John new Smith, he had nine point eight seconds until 1:08:09.480 --> 1:08:13.160 he threw the ball, the longest in a long time 1:08:13.200 --> 1:08:15.360 that he's held the ball. I feel like he has 1:08:15.360 --> 1:08:19.599 a better command of this offense. Although it's interesting he 1:08:19.640 --> 1:08:21.760 has a better command yet I saw him be more 1:08:21.840 --> 1:08:24.639 frustrated at guys last night than he's been at any 1:08:24.680 --> 1:08:28.720 point in the year. Is almost like bad aeron was. 1:08:28.800 --> 1:08:30.559 He had a good aeron and bad aeron on his 1:08:30.600 --> 1:08:34.160 shoulders and bad aerin one. And he was very demonstrative. 1:08:34.560 --> 1:08:39.439 Although Broderick Jones may have deserved that for tackling Rogers 1:08:39.560 --> 1:08:41.760 in celebration. You can't do that to a forty one 1:08:41.840 --> 1:08:45.960 year old. But you know, I was impressed with him 1:08:46.040 --> 1:08:48.320 last night. It is it feels like I live in 1:08:48.360 --> 1:08:51.400 Bizarro world, that the Steelers offense was not the problem 1:08:51.479 --> 1:08:53.759 and that it's the defense that keeps coming up short. 1:08:55.800 --> 1:08:59.760 This might be almost crazy, and I hate to put 1:08:59.760 --> 1:09:01.920 you on the spot, but I'm going to put you 1:09:01.960 --> 1:09:05.800 on the spotcast a little bit and if you feel uncomfortable, 1:09:05.800 --> 1:09:08.519 we'll just let me know. But Mike Tomlin has been 1:09:08.560 --> 1:09:11.960 there a long time, twenty whatever years. I don't think 1:09:11.960 --> 1:09:15.240 he's had a losing season. The guy's remarkable, great coach. 1:09:15.920 --> 1:09:18.360 I've met him. He went to Miami and Ohio, where 1:09:18.400 --> 1:09:20.639 my son went to college, and that was a while ago. 1:09:21.439 --> 1:09:23.360 He's in the Hall of Fame there. I mean, he's 1:09:23.400 --> 1:09:27.960 an incredible human being, incredible person as well as phenomenal 1:09:28.000 --> 1:09:32.160 football coach. Do you think it might be time that 1:09:32.200 --> 1:09:34.920 the Pittsburgh Steelers decide to move on from Mike Tomlin 1:09:35.000 --> 1:09:37.920 and go in another direction. And if they do decide that, 1:09:38.640 --> 1:09:42.000 do you think it will be promotion from within or 1:09:42.000 --> 1:09:44.439 do you think they'll go outside the organization to find 1:09:44.640 --> 1:09:45.519 the next head coach. 1:09:46.920 --> 1:09:49.680 Well, the thing about the Steelers organization is that, you know, 1:09:49.800 --> 1:09:52.840 no matter what I think or what anybody thinks about 1:09:52.880 --> 1:09:55.160 what they should do with Mike Tomlin, the reality is 1:09:55.280 --> 1:09:58.640 he just started the first year of his newest extension, 1:09:59.160 --> 1:10:03.400 and the Pittsburgh Deelers they don't pay coaches not to work, 1:10:03.960 --> 1:10:08.240 and b I don't. I don't think that because of 1:10:08.280 --> 1:10:09.960 how long he's been there, and you're right, he's never 1:10:10.080 --> 1:10:13.559 had a losing season. He has built up so much 1:10:13.880 --> 1:10:17.599 goodwill and credibility and trust that they are not going 1:10:17.640 --> 1:10:19.920 to be the ones to say, Okay, we need to 1:10:19.960 --> 1:10:22.920 try something else. If something, if they were to get 1:10:22.920 --> 1:10:24.960 a new head coach, it would have to be Mike 1:10:25.040 --> 1:10:28.360 Tomlin going to them and saying, I've done all I 1:10:28.400 --> 1:10:31.800 can do here, I need to move on. That's what 1:10:31.920 --> 1:10:36.200 it would take. I don't see him doing that, just 1:10:36.240 --> 1:10:38.599 like I don't see the Steelers saying, Mike, we're ready 1:10:38.640 --> 1:10:42.120 to move on. I think that you know, while there 1:10:42.160 --> 1:10:46.599 are recurring themes here with the defense needing to change 1:10:46.640 --> 1:10:49.680 the scheme, with the lack of in game adjustments, with 1:10:49.760 --> 1:10:52.320 some of the talent acquisition, which yes, omark On is 1:10:52.320 --> 1:10:56.639 a general manager, but Mike Tomlin has a huge, huge 1:10:56.720 --> 1:11:00.960 stay in roster construction. All of these things are things 1:11:00.960 --> 1:11:03.959 that deserve scrutiny. But the reality is that the Pittsburgh 1:11:03.960 --> 1:11:09.120 Steelers don't change because of things like that, which is 1:11:09.160 --> 1:11:11.800 crazy because we know they haven't won a playoff game 1:11:11.840 --> 1:11:14.439 in a really long time, but they believe in staying 1:11:14.479 --> 1:11:16.599 the course and staying loyal and so they're just kind 1:11:16.600 --> 1:11:20.759 of in this stalemate until something gives right. 1:11:20.840 --> 1:11:23.439 Well, Brooke, we always appreciate you making time for us. 1:11:23.479 --> 1:11:27.240 You are absolutely fantastic. Follow her on social media. Thank 1:11:27.280 --> 1:11:28.880 you so much for carving out some time. 1:11:28.920 --> 1:11:32.360 I know you've been in demand, but rightfully so, yeah, man, 1:11:32.600 --> 1:11:33.719 appreciate you, Broke. 1:11:33.800 --> 1:11:36.840 Thanks for having me. Guys have a good weekend, all. 1:11:36.880 --> 1:11:37.760 Right, Thank you so much. 1:11:37.800 --> 1:11:41.080 As Brooke prior ESPN Pittsburgh, she does a phenomenal job. 1:11:41.160 --> 1:11:43.280 I really love following reading her work. 1:11:43.400 --> 1:11:45.040 We'll take a break, we'll come back, but more you're 1:11:45.080 --> 1:11:47.880 listening to the Bengals pep Rally Show presented by Just 1:11:47.920 --> 1:11:50.879 Bear Chicken on the Bengals Radio Network. 1:11:53.840 --> 1:11:55.160 Welcome back to the Bengals. 1:11:54.880 --> 1:11:58.519 Pep Rallley Show, broadcasting live from on the Rhine one 1:11:58.600 --> 1:12:02.160 hundred feet Core Street, Wayne Boy Speller Dave Lapham, presented 1:12:02.320 --> 1:12:05.720 by Just Bear A Chicken on the Bengals Radio Network. 1:12:06.040 --> 1:12:08.640 And don't forget ALTI Fireer, the official Wi Fi and 1:12:08.720 --> 1:12:12.280 Internet provider of the Bengals and greatest Cincinnati's fastest Internet 1:12:12.360 --> 1:12:16.200 went up to two gig symmetrical speeds. You know, Dave Lapham, 1:12:16.760 --> 1:12:18.720 I'm gonna be selfish here for a second. I don't 1:12:18.760 --> 1:12:20.519 really care if you like it or not, for you 1:12:20.600 --> 1:12:25.120 knew about it. Ladies and gentlemen, let's give Dave Lapham 1:12:25.240 --> 1:12:27.639 a well deserved round of applause going in the ring 1:12:27.680 --> 1:12:28.080 of honor. 1:12:28.160 --> 1:12:28.880 Oh thank you. 1:12:29.200 --> 1:12:34.439 Next Saturday there's a reception, and then Sunday the game 1:12:34.479 --> 1:12:38.439 against the New York Jets. And I mean, I get 1:12:38.479 --> 1:12:40.680 a little emotion about this. I don't even hide it, man, 1:12:40.720 --> 1:12:42.200 I just I just have. 1:12:42.280 --> 1:12:43.200 Gotten to know you. 1:12:44.560 --> 1:12:46.720 I knew you you know then, but I've gotten to 1:12:46.760 --> 1:12:49.400 really know you because we've worked together so many things. 1:12:49.400 --> 1:12:51.280 I wish I could tell people about just the kind 1:12:51.320 --> 1:12:53.200 of person you are, but I think they already know. 1:12:53.920 --> 1:12:56.479 You're an ambassador for this team, You're an ambassador for 1:12:56.520 --> 1:13:00.400 the city, You're an ambassador for the NFL. And uh, 1:13:00.520 --> 1:13:03.800 for you to have this moment and to see it happen, 1:13:03.880 --> 1:13:07.880 you know, so many times things happened posthumously, right, Uh. 1:13:07.600 --> 1:13:09.519 But to be here, Man, I got to tell you 1:13:09.520 --> 1:13:11.240 how happy I am for you. Man. 1:13:11.280 --> 1:13:12.240 I appreciate you. 1:13:12.640 --> 1:13:15.200 Man, I appreciate you. You're a good man. And uh, 1:13:15.600 --> 1:13:19.120 those kind words are mean a ton. Believe me. You're 1:13:20.080 --> 1:13:22.880 you're everything that you just said. You know, on my behalf. 1:13:23.439 --> 1:13:26.400 You're You're a diamond in the rough. You're a gym 1:13:26.439 --> 1:13:30.160 in this community, man, and uh, Cincinnati is very fortunate 1:13:30.200 --> 1:13:33.479 to have you, uh doing things in the in the 1:13:33.520 --> 1:13:35.120 media world, in the broadcast world. 1:13:35.160 --> 1:13:35.679 For sure. 1:13:36.360 --> 1:13:40.080 The people I'm most excited for are my grandkids. There 1:13:40.320 --> 1:13:43.599 they're like all they're they're they're over the moon. Man. 1:13:43.680 --> 1:13:46.280 It's like, but you're going in where now? 1:13:46.280 --> 1:13:47.160 What are you doing? 1:13:48.360 --> 1:13:50.040 Yeah, it's called the Ring of Honor. You know, are 1:13:51.360 --> 1:13:55.760 gonna be have a jersey up on the on the 1:13:55.760 --> 1:13:59.519 wall inside the stadium forever yeah, I don't think they're 1:13:59.520 --> 1:14:03.080 gonna be so it's pretty cool. 1:14:03.160 --> 1:14:03.320 You know. 1:14:03.360 --> 1:14:08.160 They're like ages ten to twelve, and there are two boys, 1:14:08.160 --> 1:14:13.040 two girls pretty close, real smart and they they are 1:14:13.040 --> 1:14:14.559 a lot of fun. There's no doubt about it. And 1:14:14.560 --> 1:14:16.559 that's what it's all about. Families, what it's all about. 1:14:16.600 --> 1:14:18.840 That's why you know you do what you do no 1:14:18.880 --> 1:14:20.599 matter what kind of a pression you have. 1:14:21.160 --> 1:14:23.680 Well, the thing about it is, man, we watched from 1:14:23.720 --> 1:14:24.679 the broadcast booth. 1:14:25.280 --> 1:14:26.480 We watch these ceremonies. 1:14:26.560 --> 1:14:27.959 Yeah, and it is special. 1:14:28.360 --> 1:14:31.640 You look Anthony Munos and Ken Anderson and Busis and 1:14:31.760 --> 1:14:36.360 Willie Anderson and Corey Dillon and Ken Riley, and you 1:14:36.400 --> 1:14:41.080 see it and you see true diehard Bengal fans appreciating 1:14:42.040 --> 1:14:45.479 what that player represents. I've often said, and I've said 1:14:45.479 --> 1:14:47.080 it on these shows for a number of years. The 1:14:47.080 --> 1:14:50.840 reason why I thought it was so important for you 1:14:50.920 --> 1:14:54.080 to be in the Ring of Honors because you go 1:14:54.160 --> 1:14:57.200 to games and tell stories of what you see, right, 1:14:57.360 --> 1:14:59.439 and when you look up and you take your son 1:14:59.560 --> 1:15:01.640 to the game for the first time, of your granddaughter 1:15:01.720 --> 1:15:04.439 for the first time, and you look up and say, well, 1:15:04.439 --> 1:15:09.280 who's that, there's a story there well, who's that up there? 1:15:09.600 --> 1:15:13.080 There's a story there, and so fifty years of what 1:15:13.160 --> 1:15:16.280 you've been to this franchise. I just wanted to take 1:15:16.320 --> 1:15:19.479 a segment out of this show to say, Man, if 1:15:19.520 --> 1:15:25.680 there was ever anybody that deserved. 1:15:25.320 --> 1:15:29.840 I appreciate you, man, Thanks Box, You're the best. I mean, 1:15:30.320 --> 1:15:34.760 the thing that I can't get my head around is 1:15:34.840 --> 1:15:37.639 forty years in the booth and ten years on the field. 1:15:37.680 --> 1:15:40.320 I thought fifty years, man, I didn't think I'd be 1:15:40.400 --> 1:15:46.080 doing anything. But you know, football is my love. You know, 1:15:46.360 --> 1:15:48.400 fell in love with the sport a long time ago 1:15:48.479 --> 1:15:51.280 and still fortunate enough to be able to do it 1:15:51.280 --> 1:15:54.360 at the age of seventy three. So I consider myself 1:15:54.400 --> 1:15:55.720 one of the luckiest people I know. 1:15:56.000 --> 1:15:58.439 Yeah, and we are too, man for having known you 1:15:58.479 --> 1:16:00.799 and get to hear you. Thank you man, your excitement 1:16:00.840 --> 1:16:03.160 and everything else. Lady's dumb and Dave Lapham going in 1:16:03.240 --> 1:16:07.400 the Ring of honor and I'm just just so happy, man. 1:16:07.479 --> 1:16:10.160 And uh, it's gonna be a special night, man, I 1:16:10.360 --> 1:16:14.559 I can't wait. Uh, you know, and talking about that night, 1:16:14.680 --> 1:16:17.240 let's talk about that game, because we don't want to 1:16:17.280 --> 1:16:18.920 look past the New York guests either. 1:16:19.520 --> 1:16:20.120 They're hurting. 1:16:20.840 --> 1:16:23.759 Yeah, and they've got they've got another game at home 1:16:24.120 --> 1:16:26.040 against the Carolina Panthers, I believe. 1:16:26.080 --> 1:16:29.000 And uh man, you talking about somebody being in the 1:16:29.000 --> 1:16:29.960 hot seat and New York. 1:16:30.000 --> 1:16:30.840 It doesn't take long. 1:16:30.880 --> 1:16:34.760 And Vincy g and Glenn came in heralded and excited 1:16:34.800 --> 1:16:36.839 and talking about what they were going to do, and 1:16:36.840 --> 1:16:39.120 and they did it for a quarter, maybe two quarters, 1:16:39.160 --> 1:16:39.920 maybe three quarters. 1:16:39.920 --> 1:16:41.280 They haven't done it for a whole game. 1:16:41.360 --> 1:16:44.519 So I said, selfishly, I hope they win this week, 1:16:44.560 --> 1:16:46.559 and I wanted to come in here next week, you know, 1:16:46.640 --> 1:16:50.360 even more desperate. But you can't celebrate this win so 1:16:50.479 --> 1:16:53.640 much last night that you forget that you have to 1:16:53.760 --> 1:16:55.880 raise your level of play next week, because that is 1:16:55.920 --> 1:16:57.000 a desperate. 1:16:56.600 --> 1:17:02.920 Team, absolutely, And uh you know, desperate sometimes means you know, 1:17:03.000 --> 1:17:06.720 they're all or nothing. They're coming in to get it done, 1:17:07.120 --> 1:17:11.639 and that's when upsets occur. Upsets occur when you're heavily favored, 1:17:11.680 --> 1:17:13.559 you know, and the Bengals will probably be close to 1:17:13.600 --> 1:17:17.080 a touchdown favorite in the National Football League. That's monstrous. 1:17:17.320 --> 1:17:22.800 That's a big spread. So the Bengals cannot, you know, 1:17:22.920 --> 1:17:26.040 rest on their laurels as such, and they shouldn't I mean, 1:17:26.280 --> 1:17:28.280 they don't have a five hundred record yet. If they 1:17:28.280 --> 1:17:30.840 win this football game, they will, you know, but you know, 1:17:30.880 --> 1:17:32.840 who are they to be like we've arrived. No, you 1:17:32.880 --> 1:17:35.800 haven't arrived. You haven't arrived anywhere yet. But it'll be 1:17:35.840 --> 1:17:39.840 interesting because you know, New York Jets. It's not like 1:17:39.880 --> 1:17:42.799 they don't have talent. Every team in the National Football 1:17:42.840 --> 1:17:46.479 League has football players. It's just a matter of how 1:17:46.520 --> 1:17:50.000 has it been put together, how's it all working? And 1:17:50.080 --> 1:17:54.000 right now the Jets just haven't found the right formula. 1:17:53.400 --> 1:17:55.320 No question about it. We'll take a break, we'll come back. 1:17:55.360 --> 1:17:57.280 We got one more segment in this hour. Then we'll 1:17:57.320 --> 1:17:58.080 be joined by T. J. 1:17:58.240 --> 1:17:58.599 Slayton. 1:17:58.880 --> 1:18:01.479 It's the Bengals Part Rally Show broadcasting live. I'm on 1:18:01.520 --> 1:18:04.439 the Ryde one hunderd Court Street presented by Just Bear 1:18:04.560 --> 1:18:09.000 Chicken on the Bengals Radio Network. Welcome back to the 1:18:09.040 --> 1:18:12.400 Bengals Rally Show, broadcasting live from on the Ryde one 1:18:12.439 --> 1:18:15.600 hundred Court Street, presented by Just Bear Chicken on the 1:18:15.640 --> 1:18:17.960 Bengals Radio Network. Again, as we get to the top 1:18:18.000 --> 1:18:20.479 of the hour, I gotta tell you you got your 1:18:20.560 --> 1:18:23.720 choice as the restaurants Bar eighteen eighty three Home of 1:18:23.760 --> 1:18:29.320 the world famous Kroger Karaoke Dope, which is Asian street food. 1:18:29.720 --> 1:18:32.439 Queen City Burger Company, the best burgers in the city, 1:18:32.640 --> 1:18:36.880 absolutely snow Fox, Poke Bowl, Chicken Fresh Sushi, Nice and 1:18:36.960 --> 1:18:39.720 Kitchen eighteen eighty three with the smoke wings and the 1:18:39.760 --> 1:18:42.960 fresh salad which I had the the wings. 1:18:43.520 --> 1:18:45.920 I got this solid next time. I'm gonna eat healthy 1:18:45.960 --> 1:18:46.400 next week. 1:18:46.479 --> 1:18:48.280 And they get all kinds of different drinks here too. 1:18:48.320 --> 1:18:51.599 I mean, be it water, be it soda, be atn 1:18:51.600 --> 1:18:52.479 adult beverage. 1:18:54.360 --> 1:18:57.800 Yeah, fully stock bar and outdoor area outside where you 1:18:57.840 --> 1:18:59.800 can go and chill and do that out there as well. 1:19:00.080 --> 1:19:01.960 Place to be man, no question about it. 1:19:02.160 --> 1:19:02.400 Lap. 1:19:02.400 --> 1:19:04.360 As we wrap up this hour, you know, we were 1:19:04.400 --> 1:19:06.479 talking about the Jets, and one of the things I 1:19:06.880 --> 1:19:10.519 think about is the Kansasity Chiefs came in here years 1:19:10.520 --> 1:19:11.680 ago and they were undefeated. 1:19:12.120 --> 1:19:15.680 The Bengals were winless. Yeah, it was just everybody's like, oh, 1:19:15.760 --> 1:19:16.920 that's gonna just roll over. 1:19:16.960 --> 1:19:20.800 The Bengals is gonna be And the Bengals ended that 1:19:20.920 --> 1:19:25.000 winning streak because they were a desperate team. And we 1:19:25.000 --> 1:19:27.599 were talking about that going into the break, and you know, 1:19:28.080 --> 1:19:30.120 a lot of tigns for coaches, even they get to 1:19:30.200 --> 1:19:33.000 a place where, hey, we're throwing the kitchen sink at 1:19:33.040 --> 1:19:33.320 it this. 1:19:33.280 --> 1:19:34.800 Week, because what else do we have to lose? 1:19:34.880 --> 1:19:37.360 Nothing else working. We need to just get something done. 1:19:37.520 --> 1:19:40.479 So we're just gonna trash the playbook. Let's go out 1:19:40.479 --> 1:19:41.919 here and play sand lot football. 1:19:42.120 --> 1:19:45.400 And you know, I think back to Paul Brown and 1:19:45.680 --> 1:19:48.880 Tiger Johnson, my first line coach, Bill to Johnson. Ahors 1:19:48.960 --> 1:19:53.519 used to say, yeah, now you know, we'd be like 1:19:53.880 --> 1:19:56.760 six and oh playing a team that was two and four. Oh, 1:19:56.840 --> 1:19:58.880 you guys are all fat and sassy. Man, you're all 1:19:58.880 --> 1:20:02.360 sitting on your high or and uh whatever team is 1:20:02.400 --> 1:20:06.200 coming in and they're looking to just knock you around. Man, 1:20:06.280 --> 1:20:09.320 they're looking to just slap you silly, and uh, they 1:20:09.400 --> 1:20:12.680 can embarrass you. They're they're good football players. And if 1:20:12.720 --> 1:20:15.320 they put it together on any given Sunday, just like 1:20:15.360 --> 1:20:20.400 the storyline goes, any given Sunday, upsets can occur. And 1:20:20.400 --> 1:20:23.240 and uh, you guys, from what I've seen so far 1:20:23.320 --> 1:20:26.120 in practice this week, I don't like what I see. 1:20:26.360 --> 1:20:28.320 You guys are gonna get knocked off and you're gonna 1:20:28.320 --> 1:20:30.840 be sorry about it. So get yourself together, get your 1:20:31.200 --> 1:20:32.559 gets your order. 1:20:33.200 --> 1:20:35.559 No question about it, and you know, lap, I think 1:20:35.640 --> 1:20:38.720 part of it. Whether people want to accept this or not, 1:20:38.840 --> 1:20:42.439 and I say, fans, really yeah, it's a human element. Man, 1:20:43.000 --> 1:20:46.800 You're you're winning, robody a team struggling. It's human ature 1:20:46.800 --> 1:20:49.080 to think, man, that they're they're not that good. We 1:20:49.120 --> 1:20:51.439 don't have to worry about that. And you you may 1:20:51.479 --> 1:20:53.320 even say, hey, well let me not do that. I'm 1:20:53.320 --> 1:20:56.280 gonna get my tentacles up. Part of you is still 1:20:56.320 --> 1:20:58.920 thinking we should just beat these guys. And that's when 1:20:58.960 --> 1:21:01.640 you put yourself in harm, no question, you know. 1:21:01.760 --> 1:21:04.519 And you hear it from everybody, and you wake up 1:21:04.560 --> 1:21:06.800 in the morning and you hear it from your wife. 1:21:06.800 --> 1:21:10.040 Oh yeah, man, you guys are playing so well. I'm 1:21:10.080 --> 1:21:13.639 so proud of ye. Since I'm proud of your Cincinnati brangle. 1:21:13.720 --> 1:21:16.920 The kids they go to school, all their schoolmates are like, 1:21:17.240 --> 1:21:20.559 oh man, the Bengals are really good. Your dad's really good. 1:21:20.760 --> 1:21:24.559 That you guys have to be just unbelievably happy, you know. 1:21:24.720 --> 1:21:28.320 And and that house of cards can crumble quickly. 1:21:28.240 --> 1:21:29.360 Rumble quickly, you know. 1:21:29.479 --> 1:21:33.639 I was thinking again, we talked about special teams always 1:21:33.680 --> 1:21:36.519 being something that matters, and I thought the Bengals special 1:21:36.560 --> 1:21:39.800 teams was really rock stay. You know, Tyson Anderson and 1:21:39.840 --> 1:21:42.640 those guys. Yeah, they take so much pride in what 1:21:42.680 --> 1:21:43.519 they do out there. 1:21:43.600 --> 1:21:43.760 Man. 1:21:43.800 --> 1:21:47.000 And again, you talked about just a caliber of people 1:21:47.000 --> 1:21:49.640 that are on this team, but I've always said, you 1:21:49.680 --> 1:21:52.599 look at how a special teams group plays, that will 1:21:52.640 --> 1:21:54.200 tell you a lot about the locker room and the 1:21:54.240 --> 1:21:55.120 makeup of the teams. 1:21:55.160 --> 1:21:58.000 I agree, I agree. You know, special teams players are. 1:21:58.520 --> 1:22:01.120 They're special. It's a special there's no doubt about it. 1:22:01.160 --> 1:22:03.800 And Darren Simmons does as well as anybody in the 1:22:03.880 --> 1:22:06.040 National Football League. I mean, he gets the most out 1:22:06.080 --> 1:22:11.160 of his players every single year. Ryan Rico can crush 1:22:11.520 --> 1:22:16.439 a football. It's amazing how well he can kick punt 1:22:16.439 --> 1:22:21.080 of football for length and height. His hangtime is just 1:22:21.680 --> 1:22:25.439 out of this world. Ridiculous and money Mack, I'm telling you, 1:22:25.479 --> 1:22:30.479 Evan McPherson, this guy is automatic. Man. You start to 1:22:30.479 --> 1:22:33.120 count the three points before they're even going to be 1:22:33.120 --> 1:22:35.960 put up on the board. Officially, he is. He's something 1:22:36.000 --> 1:22:41.280 special and great teammate and teammates look to him. They 1:22:41.400 --> 1:22:44.920 respect his talents, they respect the leg that he's got 1:22:44.920 --> 1:22:48.679 to hang off of that right hip, and they love 1:22:48.760 --> 1:22:51.080 them some money. 1:22:50.760 --> 1:22:53.040 Mack Moneymack is that guy man. 1:22:53.200 --> 1:22:55.280 He seems to be back. And for me, yeah, that's 1:22:55.360 --> 1:22:57.320 UFT to the Bengals. Next few games, we lead them 1:22:57.360 --> 1:22:59.559 to the bye week. They've got the New York Jets, 1:23:00.040 --> 1:23:02.519 followed by the Chicago Bears and then the bye week. 1:23:02.560 --> 1:23:05.040 And on the backside of the bye week, man, fasten 1:23:05.120 --> 1:23:09.120 your tension. Pittsburgh still is on the road. Patriots coming 1:23:09.160 --> 1:23:11.559 here on the road to the Ravens. Don't tell me 1:23:11.600 --> 1:23:14.200 nothing about the Baltimore Ravens record on the road in 1:23:14.280 --> 1:23:18.320 Baltimore Thanksgiving Night is going to be one tough match. 1:23:18.800 --> 1:23:21.200 Then they go on the road to the Buffalo Bills 1:23:21.560 --> 1:23:23.320 and then Baltimore comes here. 1:23:24.200 --> 1:23:24.880 That's a stretch. 1:23:24.960 --> 1:23:28.639 That's a stretch, man. And I tell you what, that's 1:23:28.680 --> 1:23:30.920 a bye week that really fell at a good time 1:23:30.960 --> 1:23:34.200 because it's it's it's almost like that midway point and 1:23:34.280 --> 1:23:37.080 give them a chance to just rest up, because when 1:23:37.120 --> 1:23:40.799 you come back from that, it is all about making 1:23:40.840 --> 1:23:43.320 that drive to get to that first goal, and that 1:23:43.479 --> 1:23:47.000 is to win the AFC North and then the playoffs. 1:23:46.439 --> 1:23:48.240 Will come if you win that, and you can go 1:23:48.280 --> 1:23:48.719 from there. 1:23:48.760 --> 1:23:51.759 But no, no, there are no gimmes in the NFL, 1:23:51.800 --> 1:23:53.519 And I think you were great to point it out 1:23:53.520 --> 1:23:54.400 even with the Jets. 1:23:54.560 --> 1:23:58.599 Yeah, there's no gimmeis whatsoever. And and I will say 1:23:58.640 --> 1:24:02.160 that that stretch is going to be a challenge, But 1:24:02.520 --> 1:24:04.880 I really do believe that this team is put together 1:24:05.360 --> 1:24:08.040 with the type of our personalities, the type of character, 1:24:08.120 --> 1:24:09.519 type of fiber to handle it. 1:24:09.600 --> 1:24:11.680 Marks all right, back with our number three does the 1:24:11.680 --> 1:24:14.240 Bengals pet rally so broadcasting life. I'm on the Ryan 1:24:14.760 --> 1:24:17.160 presented by Bear Chicken on the Bengals Radio Network. 1:24:17.400 --> 1:24:20.960 Ingles pep Rally presented by Just Bear Chicken on the 1:24:20.960 --> 1:24:24.880 Bengals Radio Network. Paycore Paincor is proud to be the 1:24:24.880 --> 1:24:29.960 official HR software provider of the Cincinnati Bengals. Kettering Health 1:24:30.320 --> 1:24:34.559 Best Care for the Best Fans. Kettering Health, Official healthcare 1:24:34.640 --> 1:24:40.200 provider of the Cincinnati Bengals. This is ESPN fifteen thirty, 1:24:40.479 --> 1:24:43.479 the official home of the Cincinnati Bengals. 1:24:45.040 --> 1:24:47.240 Welcome to our number three of the Bengals pet rally 1:24:47.320 --> 1:24:50.639 SOHO broadcasting live from on the Ryne one hundred Court Street, 1:24:51.120 --> 1:24:55.320 right here in downtown Cincinnati, Presented by Just Bear Chicken, 1:24:55.720 --> 1:24:59.400 Wayne box Miller, Dave Lapham, Mike the Engineer with US 1:24:59.439 --> 1:25:03.439 and my Mike Magic on the heels of a thirty 1:25:03.439 --> 1:25:05.920 three thirty one win over the Pittsburgh Steelers, who go 1:25:06.040 --> 1:25:10.880 two and ozer in the the Vision two and on 1:25:11.000 --> 1:25:14.200 the Division and a tough game. They got some time 1:25:14.280 --> 1:25:17.519 to rest up again. If you haven't been here, you 1:25:17.560 --> 1:25:20.680 need to join us great restaurants. We're gonna do a 1:25:20.720 --> 1:25:24.080 little trivia in the next break to see how true 1:25:24.120 --> 1:25:27.000 the Bengal fans are here. I got one tough question already. 1:25:27.320 --> 1:25:27.800 There you go. 1:25:27.920 --> 1:25:30.240 It might be a stumper because I'm gonna get you 1:25:30.320 --> 1:25:35.360 on a technicality, but we've got We're gonna try to 1:25:35.360 --> 1:25:38.840 get Max Starks from the Pittsburgh Steelers radio on with us. 1:25:38.920 --> 1:25:41.400 And we also got fantastic fun facts. 1:25:41.479 --> 1:25:43.320 But let's go. We got Max already. 1:25:43.560 --> 1:25:46.559 Let's cue this man and Max Man, what a heck 1:25:46.600 --> 1:25:48.799 of a player for the Pittsburgh Still there's a number. 1:25:48.600 --> 1:25:51.600 Of years like you lap you offensive linemen. You go 1:25:51.680 --> 1:25:54.760 up in the booth. I don't know what does les 1:25:54.920 --> 1:25:57.400 to Welcome to show Max Starks. Max, how are you brother? 1:25:58.640 --> 1:26:00.000 I am I'm doing well. 1:26:00.439 --> 1:26:02.360 And of course you know you send the most intelligent 1:26:02.400 --> 1:26:03.160 guys to the boot. 1:26:03.360 --> 1:26:07.280 I mean, that's what you do. By Dave and I 1:26:07.320 --> 1:26:11.599 are in our respective positions. 1:26:11.160 --> 1:26:12.080 A max I. 1:26:11.880 --> 1:26:15.240 I tell you, for the fans and and for the 1:26:15.280 --> 1:26:17.960 TV viewing network, what a great game. 1:26:18.000 --> 1:26:20.240 But if you're still a fan, not so good. 1:26:21.680 --> 1:26:23.840 Yeah you're yeah, you know. I mean, but this is 1:26:23.840 --> 1:26:27.160 what those games are. This is what aft nor football is, right. 1:26:27.200 --> 1:26:29.560 It's it's gonna be tight, it's gonna be one possession. 1:26:30.160 --> 1:26:33.400 Never is there just some type of just walk off, blowoff, 1:26:33.600 --> 1:26:36.120 blowout game, unless it's that team that's a little bit. 1:26:36.080 --> 1:26:36.840 East of y'all. 1:26:37.720 --> 1:26:42.479 But this is this is normally how those games go. 1:26:42.560 --> 1:26:43.960 I mean, you look at the last ten times the 1:26:44.040 --> 1:26:45.160 Cincinnati Bengals. 1:26:44.880 --> 1:26:45.720 And here's a play. 1:26:45.840 --> 1:26:47.960 It literally comes down to the scores two hundred and 1:26:47.960 --> 1:26:50.200 thirty seven to two hundred and thirty seven points scored 1:26:50.479 --> 1:26:53.040 for both teams. Wow, Like that's how evenly matched this 1:26:53.120 --> 1:26:54.280 type of contest is. 1:26:55.600 --> 1:26:59.080 Man, I mean that that is crazy. That is crazy. 1:26:59.560 --> 1:27:01.960 The Bengal when they were preparing for this football game 1:27:02.520 --> 1:27:04.760 doc with the coaches, they said two things are going 1:27:04.840 --> 1:27:08.400 to be determining factor in this football game turnovers, and 1:27:08.439 --> 1:27:11.639 the Bengals were plus two in that category. They got 1:27:11.680 --> 1:27:13.880 too off. The Pittsburgh Steelers and didn't turn it over 1:27:13.920 --> 1:27:17.000 at all, and then the running game would they be 1:27:17.040 --> 1:27:21.360 able to have a successful ground attack. And Chase Brown 1:27:21.520 --> 1:27:25.559 obviously was big, a big part of that for the 1:27:25.600 --> 1:27:29.040 Cincinnati Bengals in their favor, and you know, they felt 1:27:29.080 --> 1:27:32.320 like they needed to control Pittsburgh's running game. They couldn't 1:27:32.360 --> 1:27:35.000 let Pittsburgh's running game get out the gate and h 1:27:35.320 --> 1:27:40.600 and do some serious damage. What's the reaction been like, 1:27:40.680 --> 1:27:43.320 What was the reaction like in the locker room when 1:27:43.360 --> 1:27:45.840 you hit the locker room after the football game, And 1:27:45.880 --> 1:27:48.080 what's it been like from the media. 1:27:50.040 --> 1:27:52.800 You know, I think I think there was a sense 1:27:52.840 --> 1:27:55.920 of disappointment, you know, amongst the players faces because they 1:27:55.960 --> 1:27:58.920 know that the execution just wasn't there in the key moments. 1:27:58.960 --> 1:28:01.120 I mean, you know, normally, when you put up thirty 1:28:01.160 --> 1:28:04.200 one points, right, you're supposed to win a game. But 1:28:04.840 --> 1:28:07.640 that comes down to the defense not being able to 1:28:07.640 --> 1:28:09.720 do their job. I mean, you know, you think about it. 1:28:10.640 --> 1:28:14.800 The Bengals scored, you guys scored on seven of nine 1:28:14.880 --> 1:28:18.759 drives in the game last night. And for a defense 1:28:18.800 --> 1:28:22.759 that quote unquote was supposed to be tenacious, it didn't 1:28:22.800 --> 1:28:23.680 prove to be that. 1:28:23.840 --> 1:28:24.720 It proved to be the. 1:28:24.680 --> 1:28:28.919 Opposite of that, and offense we thought was the issue, 1:28:29.080 --> 1:28:32.040 ended up showing up. Now, granted, those two interceptions, I 1:28:32.080 --> 1:28:34.320 have to say the first one Aaron tried to force 1:28:34.360 --> 1:28:37.760 one that wasn't there, that first interception down the sideline, 1:28:37.800 --> 1:28:40.720 But the second one, DJ Turner made a heck of 1:28:40.760 --> 1:28:43.040 a play and I have to give him all the 1:28:43.080 --> 1:28:45.280 credit in the world. He made a heck of a 1:28:45.320 --> 1:28:47.720 play and to get that knee down right before he 1:28:47.760 --> 1:28:50.240 went out of bounds was huge, and it was something 1:28:50.840 --> 1:28:52.639 and it was something that I think when you look 1:28:52.680 --> 1:28:55.080 at just how the game went, those are those moments. 1:28:55.080 --> 1:28:57.479 But for the Steelers to be as in control as 1:28:57.520 --> 1:28:59.160 you were in the first quarter, I think once they 1:28:59.200 --> 1:29:02.720 messed up on that that botched fleet flicker that was 1:29:02.800 --> 1:29:05.679 called off, but not everybody knew it was called off, 1:29:06.080 --> 1:29:10.760 and that really set the momentum in the Bengals favor. 1:29:10.800 --> 1:29:12.639 And you guys took took advantage of it and ran 1:29:12.720 --> 1:29:15.599 with it. And now a lot of miscommunication with Jamar Chase. 1:29:15.640 --> 1:29:18.360 I mean, Jamark Chase had probably one of his best games. 1:29:18.080 --> 1:29:22.160 Ever, you know, and for and for Joe Flacco. 1:29:22.200 --> 1:29:25.080 You think about this, that's the most pass that he's 1:29:25.280 --> 1:29:27.760 had former receiver and how many teams he played on, 1:29:27.760 --> 1:29:28.960 how long is he played in this league? And that 1:29:29.040 --> 1:29:31.639 was the most beat out the previous of twelve against 1:29:31.920 --> 1:29:35.759 with Steve Smith when he was in Baltimore, right right. 1:29:36.280 --> 1:29:39.320 Yeah, So it's really tough because I think what happens 1:29:39.400 --> 1:29:42.400 is you think that you got this game plan and 1:29:42.400 --> 1:29:44.160 all of a sudden, the things don't happen the way 1:29:44.200 --> 1:29:47.920 you want him to, and it causes problem because the 1:29:47.960 --> 1:29:51.160 steel is like the run the ball, but the still 1:29:51.240 --> 1:29:52.800 is like to stop people for run the ball, and 1:29:52.800 --> 1:29:55.200 they couldn't do that, so it made it made it 1:29:55.240 --> 1:29:57.480 a challenge for them. 1:29:57.720 --> 1:29:59.080 Yeah, and the time of possession. 1:29:59.120 --> 1:30:01.280 I mean that that that drive in the third quarter 1:30:01.360 --> 1:30:02.920 kind of like what you guys did the week before 1:30:02.920 --> 1:30:05.680 against Green Bay. You know that third quarter drive that 1:30:05.840 --> 1:30:08.519 just chews up about half o'clock. I mean green Bay 1:30:08.520 --> 1:30:11.360 it was a ten minutes and thirteen second, eighteen play drive. 1:30:11.800 --> 1:30:13.840 Then you follow that up on Thursday night and the 1:30:13.840 --> 1:30:16.280 third quarter you have a fourteen play, seventh minute and 1:30:16.360 --> 1:30:19.000 five second drive. So those are the things that when 1:30:19.040 --> 1:30:20.880 you're coming out the gates for the second half, you 1:30:20.960 --> 1:30:23.080 get in that first possession, you kind of get to 1:30:23.160 --> 1:30:26.120 dictate to the opposite team how the terms are going 1:30:26.160 --> 1:30:29.320 to be, and the Steelers never quite changed the momentum 1:30:29.439 --> 1:30:32.519 or the rhythm of the control once the Bengals took over. 1:30:34.000 --> 1:30:37.160 Max Starks from Pittsburgh steel A Radio, join us right now. 1:30:37.439 --> 1:30:41.000 You know, Max, talk about the atmosphere last night. I mean, 1:30:41.320 --> 1:30:44.320 you know, Pittsburgh has their crowd, their their audience, but 1:30:44.960 --> 1:30:47.640 that white out last night had to be something that 1:30:47.680 --> 1:30:49.400 you just couldn't ignore if you're a Steeler. 1:30:50.760 --> 1:30:52.600 Oh no, you absolutely couldn't. It was. 1:30:53.120 --> 1:30:55.439 And I actually put this on social media, I said, 1:30:55.680 --> 1:30:57.479 I said, and I had a Bengals game, or had 1:30:57.520 --> 1:30:59.600 a Cincinnati Bearcat game, right because. 1:30:59.320 --> 1:31:01.000 It gave you that call the atmosphere. 1:31:01.840 --> 1:31:04.519 Yeah, of you know of a white out or black 1:31:04.680 --> 1:31:06.679 you know when teams want to do their all out 1:31:06.800 --> 1:31:09.639 color and to change the field, I. 1:31:09.600 --> 1:31:11.799 Thought was was just genius. 1:31:11.840 --> 1:31:14.639 And to do all the white in there, it gave 1:31:14.680 --> 1:31:17.679 you a collegiate atmosphere. I think I think it actually 1:31:18.040 --> 1:31:21.320 intensified the crowd. And like you said, normally you see 1:31:21.360 --> 1:31:24.120 a lot of Steeler fans. If they were there, you 1:31:24.120 --> 1:31:26.599 couldn't really tell, because I'm sure most Steeler fans probably 1:31:26.600 --> 1:31:28.360 came and think we're wearing away white, so you wear 1:31:28.400 --> 1:31:30.040 white and then you're like, oh, man, I walked. 1:31:29.840 --> 1:31:30.479 Into a whiteout. 1:31:32.080 --> 1:31:35.000 So in fact, for me, I had a white polo 1:31:35.040 --> 1:31:37.960 over you saw me last night, you know, and I 1:31:37.960 --> 1:31:40.160 didn't even know, so it was a surprise. I'm like, 1:31:40.240 --> 1:31:41.360 dang it, I wish I would have not had to 1:31:41.360 --> 1:31:43.640 wear a black polo. But I thought that was a 1:31:43.680 --> 1:31:45.879 really cool environment, especially for Thursday night football. 1:31:45.960 --> 1:31:46.639 Right we think of. 1:31:46.920 --> 1:31:49.719 All these color Rush jerseys and how the NFL's changed 1:31:49.720 --> 1:31:52.320 with Nike, and I thought that was a really cool 1:31:52.400 --> 1:31:55.880 touch to have that type of environment. And it played perfectly, 1:31:56.000 --> 1:31:58.960 especially from you know, the television standpoint and especially the 1:31:59.040 --> 1:32:01.080 viewing public that was in the stadium. You felt like 1:32:01.520 --> 1:32:04.160 it was a rallied home game for a Thursday night game. 1:32:05.200 --> 1:32:07.559 Yeah, there's no doubt. Let me ask you a question 1:32:07.600 --> 1:32:12.240 that Steeler fans probably will never ever, you know, want 1:32:12.280 --> 1:32:16.479 to talk about her here? Mike Tomlin. Mike Tomlin's been 1:32:16.479 --> 1:32:18.840 around a long time, had great success. I mean, hell 1:32:18.880 --> 1:32:23.920 of a football coach, unbelievable human being. He's He's been 1:32:23.920 --> 1:32:27.519 a credit to the Pittsburgh Steelers organization, the National Football 1:32:27.600 --> 1:32:31.839 League all over the world. Do you think Mike Tomlin, 1:32:33.479 --> 1:32:37.520 the Rudy Family, Pittsburgh organization, do you think they're considering 1:32:38.320 --> 1:32:39.679 moving on from Mike Tomlin? 1:32:41.920 --> 1:32:44.439 I would say don't. I don't think so right now. 1:32:44.479 --> 1:32:48.240 I think that's something that when you look at just 1:32:48.439 --> 1:32:51.519 the track record him being really the only coach to 1:32:51.600 --> 1:32:53.000 go as long as he has of never having a 1:32:53.040 --> 1:32:55.880 losing record. I know people kind of play and say, 1:32:55.920 --> 1:32:56.720 but what does that mean? 1:32:56.840 --> 1:32:58.040 You know, if you can't wait to. 1:32:58.000 --> 1:32:59.519 Play it, I said, but at the end of the day, 1:33:00.360 --> 1:33:04.880 you know, success and continued success in that department means 1:33:04.880 --> 1:33:06.200 you're never in that position. 1:33:06.280 --> 1:33:08.800 And I think you know, his his skill. 1:33:08.560 --> 1:33:10.400 In his coaching is when it's been in those tough 1:33:10.439 --> 1:33:12.960 situations when you haven't had a roster that should have 1:33:12.960 --> 1:33:14.040 been five hundred, and you. 1:33:14.040 --> 1:33:15.000 Still find a way. 1:33:15.400 --> 1:33:16.680 And when we look around. 1:33:16.360 --> 1:33:18.800 This league, right we look at what the Jets, we 1:33:18.840 --> 1:33:21.040 look at you know, the Saints. 1:33:20.720 --> 1:33:23.040 We look at all these the Carolinas, right we look 1:33:23.080 --> 1:33:27.120 at these other wanders to have constant, massive turnover and 1:33:27.240 --> 1:33:31.479 they don't give coaches time to really mature get their 1:33:31.479 --> 1:33:32.400 system implemented. 1:33:32.400 --> 1:33:33.679 We see what's going on down. 1:33:33.479 --> 1:33:36.599 In Miami right now, right there's many points and numbers 1:33:36.640 --> 1:33:38.439 they put up, they still can't win. And you see 1:33:38.479 --> 1:33:40.680 Mike McDaniel's struggling and he's probably not going to make 1:33:40.680 --> 1:33:42.439 it to the end of the year. It's like there's 1:33:42.439 --> 1:33:45.559 something to be said for that continue tried tested in 1:33:45.600 --> 1:33:48.839 true mentality. Because the Steelers have only had three coaches 1:33:48.840 --> 1:33:52.400 since nineteen sixty nine, you know there's something for that, 1:33:52.840 --> 1:33:56.000 and that stability is what they try and breed. But 1:33:56.080 --> 1:33:58.439 I think, you know, for the Steelers organization, like especially 1:33:58.439 --> 1:34:01.000 this year, you want to see more consistency. But I 1:34:01.040 --> 1:34:04.400 think four and two still in a very good position 1:34:04.479 --> 1:34:06.839 considering what the rest of the vision looks like, especially 1:34:06.840 --> 1:34:09.880 when you're thinking about where Baltimore and where Cleveland are sitting. 1:34:10.400 --> 1:34:12.920 You know, you'd rather be in this position than on 1:34:12.960 --> 1:34:13.400 the other. 1:34:13.320 --> 1:34:13.760 Side of that. 1:34:13.880 --> 1:34:17.160 So I look at they're ready to necessarily move on 1:34:17.200 --> 1:34:19.280 from that. I think a lot of people, you know, 1:34:19.640 --> 1:34:22.799 chirp and especially a lot of the national media folks 1:34:23.680 --> 1:34:25.960 just want to see something different because they're tired of 1:34:26.360 --> 1:34:28.680 seeing this and you know, just like the Belichick effect, right, 1:34:29.120 --> 1:34:32.120 but it took Belichick having to lose Tom Brady have 1:34:32.240 --> 1:34:34.920 those losing seasons before they made a decision, and the 1:34:34.920 --> 1:34:37.240 Steelers have made it work with six different starting quarterbacks 1:34:37.240 --> 1:34:39.360 over the last three years and still made the play 1:34:39.400 --> 1:34:39.800 for easy. 1:34:41.120 --> 1:34:43.600 It's crazy, hey, Maxim I appreciates you so much for 1:34:43.760 --> 1:34:47.280 giving us a few minutes, brother, and keep getting continuing 1:34:47.320 --> 1:34:47.880 on that goal. 1:34:47.960 --> 1:34:49.960 Man, you look good. Brother, I got to tell you that. 1:34:50.760 --> 1:34:52.760 Yeah, now, I appreciate it. 1:34:52.800 --> 1:34:53.160 Wayne. 1:34:53.160 --> 1:34:56.280 And once again, you know, there's always still a semi 1:34:56.320 --> 1:34:58.840 soft spot in my heart for the Bengals because of 1:34:58.880 --> 1:35:02.160 my father. So you know I right, You know, it 1:35:02.280 --> 1:35:05.720 definitely isn't the quite inkst that I have towards Baltimore 1:35:05.800 --> 1:35:09.719 and Cleveland. You know, Cincinnati outside of when we play, 1:35:10.320 --> 1:35:12.120 is a team that I still still. 1:35:11.920 --> 1:35:14.840 Have a fond thought of. 1:35:14.640 --> 1:35:17.280 One of the best defensive linemen that ever put on 1:35:17.320 --> 1:35:18.400 the seventy nine in this. 1:35:18.400 --> 1:35:20.439 Building, I would say that for sure, brother. 1:35:20.320 --> 1:35:21.000 He could play. 1:35:21.000 --> 1:35:21.200 Man. 1:35:21.240 --> 1:35:23.639 He was a stun my man, Max Starks. 1:35:23.680 --> 1:35:26.120 Everybody, thank you so much, brother, Thanks for. 1:35:26.120 --> 1:35:28.960 Having my pleasure. Y'all take care all right? 1:35:29.040 --> 1:35:31.920 There was Max Starks Pittsburgh, still his radio. His dad, 1:35:32.000 --> 1:35:35.640 Ross Browner played the same position our guest next to 1:35:35.720 --> 1:35:38.519 us played, and this young man drafted in the fifth 1:35:38.600 --> 1:35:41.760 round of Green Bay signed with US this year back 1:35:41.760 --> 1:35:44.559 in March. But I'm gonna read some accolades on the 1:35:44.560 --> 1:35:47.759 other side because he's not one dimensional as an athlete 1:35:47.840 --> 1:35:50.920 or a player. Ladies and Deman, welcome TJ. Slayton to 1:35:51.000 --> 1:35:54.160 the Biggest peth Rally Show. We'll take a break and 1:35:54.160 --> 1:35:56.040 we'll come back and talk to the man. You're listening 1:35:56.120 --> 1:35:58.280 to the Bengals pep Rally Show presented by Just Bear 1:35:58.360 --> 1:36:04.120 Chicken on the Bengals Radio Network. Welcome back to the 1:36:04.120 --> 1:36:06.880 Bengals Rally Show pres anybody dust Bear Chicken on the 1:36:06.880 --> 1:36:11.280 Bengals Radio Network, broadcasting live from on the Ryan Eatery 1:36:11.720 --> 1:36:14.479 one hundred Court Street, Waynebox, Biller Dave Lap with my 1:36:14.520 --> 1:36:19.920 special guests. A baller helped the school win the state 1:36:20.000 --> 1:36:24.559 title in twenty fourteen to twenty sixteen. Also a four 1:36:24.640 --> 1:36:28.519 year letterman in basketball and at the US Army Bowl. 1:36:28.560 --> 1:36:30.439 He didn't just play defense, he. 1:36:30.400 --> 1:36:33.360 Jumped over on the other side on offense and played 1:36:33.400 --> 1:36:33.920 that as well. 1:36:33.920 --> 1:36:34.800 Our pleasant TJ. 1:36:34.960 --> 1:36:38.960 Slayton in the building, Lasier and seven. 1:36:39.160 --> 1:36:39.639 I'm glad. 1:36:39.840 --> 1:36:44.559 I mean, you know they say that linemen don't have skills, 1:36:44.600 --> 1:36:47.120 you know, I mean, can't play other sports. 1:36:47.400 --> 1:36:50.960 You've proven them wrong with that, man. I mean, I 1:36:50.960 --> 1:36:55.280 grew up in a very athletic household, digital new sisters 1:36:55.320 --> 1:37:00.720 who like manchut, my mom swim nchut. So really I 1:37:00.720 --> 1:37:03.519 figured I had to do something. But they took They 1:37:03.520 --> 1:37:04.920 put me in football pretty early. 1:37:05.280 --> 1:37:05.400 Uh. 1:37:06.640 --> 1:37:08.800 It wasn't my really my favorite thing to do at first, 1:37:08.880 --> 1:37:11.000 but I got kind of got used to it. Then 1:37:11.000 --> 1:37:14.000 I got into basketballs or they got fun. Then football 1:37:14.000 --> 1:37:14.759 came back around. 1:37:14.840 --> 1:37:20.560 And now where are you in the sibling hierarchy. 1:37:20.640 --> 1:37:24.080 You're the youngest middle okay, and you have sisters and 1:37:24.120 --> 1:37:26.240 brothers or no, just two older sisters. 1:37:26.400 --> 1:37:29.240 Okay, So now did they did they act like moms 1:37:29.240 --> 1:37:34.160 as well as as big sisters. Do they still act 1:37:34.160 --> 1:37:36.040 that way? 1:37:35.280 --> 1:37:35.439 Uh? 1:37:36.080 --> 1:37:36.559 Not really. 1:37:37.920 --> 1:37:41.640 My sister does, but she's the youngest sister, but she 1:37:41.760 --> 1:37:47.120 thinks he's the boss. Let's talk about what point did 1:37:47.160 --> 1:37:49.160 you realize that this football thing. 1:37:49.040 --> 1:37:51.120 Might be something you could you can make a career 1:37:51.120 --> 1:37:51.439 out of. 1:37:52.640 --> 1:37:55.880 I want to say, like, uh, probably like my junior 1:37:55.960 --> 1:37:56.920 year high school. 1:37:57.000 --> 1:38:00.439 Yeah, and you started getting offers or were you just 1:38:00.680 --> 1:38:03.400 playing well and dominating well? 1:38:03.439 --> 1:38:07.880 I was getting offers early on in school, like freshman year, 1:38:08.400 --> 1:38:12.120 but I felt like I started taking football seriously like 1:38:12.200 --> 1:38:14.479 my junior year high school. 1:38:14.640 --> 1:38:20.639 Okay, so who was the player that you watched elementary school, junior, 1:38:20.680 --> 1:38:24.240 high school, high school? As you're watching the NFL on television? 1:38:24.240 --> 1:38:26.680 Who is the player that flashed on the screen and 1:38:26.720 --> 1:38:28.960 you said, I want to play the game just like 1:38:29.160 --> 1:38:29.599 that guy. 1:38:30.320 --> 1:38:33.559 Uh, that's that's kind of like funny and interesting that 1:38:33.640 --> 1:38:36.400 you expect because like I really didn't have a really 1:38:36.560 --> 1:38:38.800 a guy that I was watching it because I wasn't 1:38:39.160 --> 1:38:41.280 really like into sports like that. Like I didn't really 1:38:41.720 --> 1:38:42.320 watch it on. 1:38:42.320 --> 1:38:45.080 TV more you weren't glued to the set. Uh. 1:38:45.200 --> 1:38:47.080 Yeah, I was more just wanting to go out there 1:38:47.080 --> 1:38:49.320 and just go play, like instead of like watching it 1:38:49.360 --> 1:38:52.040 on TV. Once I got to high school, I started 1:38:52.520 --> 1:38:56.000 like watching some people. Then once I started getting more 1:38:56.040 --> 1:38:59.400 involved into it and get getting more seriously like me 1:39:00.280 --> 1:39:02.519 like with lifted weights for the first time and stuff 1:39:02.520 --> 1:39:04.840 like that. So like it kind of bought you know, 1:39:04.960 --> 1:39:07.599 bought on inspiration to go watch other people and see 1:39:08.160 --> 1:39:09.120 what they're doing. 1:39:09.200 --> 1:39:11.880 On the other side of it. Or who's the guy 1:39:12.000 --> 1:39:14.960 that you played against in the National Football League that 1:39:15.080 --> 1:39:18.080 when the game was over you said that dude was 1:39:18.120 --> 1:39:19.000 a player. 1:39:19.040 --> 1:39:21.080 Oh yeah, it's been a couple. 1:39:21.360 --> 1:39:21.479 Uh. 1:39:22.280 --> 1:39:27.080 Frank rag Now was one of the big ones where 1:39:27.200 --> 1:39:29.320 after my rookie year, I was like, yeah, I gotta 1:39:29.760 --> 1:39:32.840 I gotta get better because these are the people on 1:39:33.040 --> 1:39:37.600 be facing. Uh. He was definitely one who put a 1:39:37.600 --> 1:39:41.040 stamp on my record year. Most definitely welcome to the league. 1:39:42.280 --> 1:39:45.200 Well not a welcome moment, just as in like this, 1:39:45.200 --> 1:39:47.000 this is what the league is about. You know what 1:39:47.000 --> 1:39:49.120 I'm saying. These are the type of guys that were 1:39:49.600 --> 1:39:52.200 facing you know and stuff like that. So I had 1:39:52.240 --> 1:39:55.599 to be able to, you know, take the next step 1:39:55.640 --> 1:39:56.120 in my game. 1:39:56.479 --> 1:39:58.720 Let's go back a second college because you ended up 1:39:58.720 --> 1:40:01.240 in Florida. But but who did it come down to? 1:40:01.400 --> 1:40:03.439 Was it clear cut Florida? Was it like, hey man, 1:40:03.479 --> 1:40:05.840 it's between two or three schools. But I ended up 1:40:05.880 --> 1:40:06.439 in Florida. 1:40:07.720 --> 1:40:12.400 Coming leaving the Army Bowl, I had got an offer 1:40:12.439 --> 1:40:15.960 from the University of Georgia. So it was between the 1:40:16.040 --> 1:40:19.200 University of Georgia and the University of Florida. But I 1:40:19.479 --> 1:40:23.280 actually I silent committed to the University of Florida at 1:40:23.320 --> 1:40:26.400 the Army Bowl game. But after that game, I still 1:40:26.439 --> 1:40:29.360 took an official visit to University of Georgia. So it 1:40:29.680 --> 1:40:31.120 really just came down to those two. 1:40:31.840 --> 1:40:35.240 And I always asked, you know, players, you know, each 1:40:35.360 --> 1:40:38.320 level there's a different requirement or a different ask of you, 1:40:38.320 --> 1:40:42.880 you know, mentally physically. What was the bigger challenge for 1:40:42.920 --> 1:40:44.800 you when you got to the college level in terms 1:40:44.800 --> 1:40:47.040 of what was required to play at that level, especially 1:40:47.040 --> 1:40:48.760 at the D one level of Florida. 1:40:48.479 --> 1:40:52.080 That sec Yeah, well it was. It was different because 1:40:52.680 --> 1:40:56.439 I played right tackle for four years in high school 1:40:57.280 --> 1:40:59.519 and then I only had like two years of defense 1:41:00.080 --> 1:41:03.240 really my junior and senior year when we played some 1:41:03.360 --> 1:41:07.719 of the the more of a running yes high school 1:41:07.720 --> 1:41:10.320 football teams. Uh, I got to play a little bit 1:41:10.360 --> 1:41:14.440 of defense, which I was already used to doing because, uh, 1:41:15.120 --> 1:41:18.479 from my background, like when I started playing football, I 1:41:18.520 --> 1:41:21.840 was a nose tackle, and then sixth grade is when 1:41:22.360 --> 1:41:25.280 like I got to do a little bit of right 1:41:25.320 --> 1:41:29.680 tackle offensive line stuff and then mostly playing defense. So 1:41:30.400 --> 1:41:32.840 I've always wanted to play defense. That's always what I've 1:41:32.840 --> 1:41:35.080 been attracted to. So but when I got to high school, 1:41:35.240 --> 1:41:37.680 spots wasn't available, so I had to go with it 1:41:37.800 --> 1:41:38.400 was available. 1:41:38.960 --> 1:41:40.920 I'll tell you this, I wanted to say, this is 1:41:40.960 --> 1:41:43.120 what I'm gonna tell you how I became a fan 1:41:43.200 --> 1:41:43.879 of your position. 1:41:44.360 --> 1:41:47.799 And the lap knows this name. When I said Ted Washington, 1:41:48.640 --> 1:41:50.639 there was a guy that played for the New England 1:41:50.680 --> 1:41:55.680 Patriots years ago named Big Big Ted Man. Ted was. 1:41:56.240 --> 1:41:58.920 He was so big and so good when they snapped 1:41:58.920 --> 1:42:01.479 the ball, Ted just did this the whole time. He 1:42:01.680 --> 1:42:04.559 was just holding two people right there and looking around 1:42:04.600 --> 1:42:08.200 to see And I've never seen a man that strong 1:42:08.240 --> 1:42:12.240 and that big just dominate and everybody's scraping. 1:42:11.800 --> 1:42:14.960 Off him and everybody's just getting but Lap, he just 1:42:15.360 --> 1:42:16.080 you couldn't move. 1:42:16.479 --> 1:42:16.679 Man. 1:42:16.720 --> 1:42:17.040 He was. 1:42:17.160 --> 1:42:19.360 He was an immovable object. He was the hub of it. 1:42:19.439 --> 1:42:22.759 Man he was. He was the cog in the wheel 1:42:22.760 --> 1:42:29.720 that made that thing go around. What player that you 1:42:29.840 --> 1:42:34.280 played against has been the one that you mentioned right now. 1:42:35.000 --> 1:42:39.920 So what coach had the biggest influence on your career 1:42:39.960 --> 1:42:42.799 as you were coming up through the ranks junior, high, 1:42:43.080 --> 1:42:45.640 high school, collegiate level. Is there a coach that was like, 1:42:46.280 --> 1:42:48.200 you could be great, and I'm going to help you 1:42:48.240 --> 1:42:49.680 be great. Here's what you need to do. 1:42:50.560 --> 1:42:53.320 I would really say I would have to give a 1:42:53.320 --> 1:42:56.400 lot of credit to my my high school o'larn coach. 1:42:57.000 --> 1:43:02.280 He had a big influence on my mental part and 1:43:02.439 --> 1:43:06.559 my approach to the game right just and then like 1:43:06.800 --> 1:43:09.040 basically like kind of laying out my future for me 1:43:09.120 --> 1:43:12.840 and like always giving me, you know, uplifting words too 1:43:13.200 --> 1:43:16.320 to better like, you know, my chances of getting to 1:43:16.320 --> 1:43:17.800 where I need to MOTI. 1:43:18.520 --> 1:43:21.519 That's beautiful, man. But so I got to ask. 1:43:21.320 --> 1:43:26.320 You you guys down there, man go to war. And 1:43:26.840 --> 1:43:29.160 somebody told me Tom Jackson used to be on ESPN, 1:43:29.479 --> 1:43:32.679 go play for dever Broncles. He said, Box, there's only 1:43:33.280 --> 1:43:36.440 X number of guys on every play that are engaged 1:43:37.120 --> 1:43:40.080 and violent contact and that's both sides of the ball. 1:43:40.560 --> 1:43:43.320 And it's it's I mean, is that for you? Like 1:43:43.400 --> 1:43:44.519 what you enjoy life? 1:43:44.560 --> 1:43:44.760 Man? 1:43:44.800 --> 1:43:47.480 It's just testing my strength on every play. 1:43:47.560 --> 1:43:51.120 Yeah, at some point, at some point, the violence of 1:43:51.200 --> 1:43:52.320 it does become fun. 1:43:52.680 --> 1:43:52.800 Uh. 1:43:56.360 --> 1:43:57.960 But at the end of the day, they can't put 1:43:57.960 --> 1:43:58.479 you in jail. 1:44:00.520 --> 1:44:03.920 They can't. So it's legal. It's all legal. 1:44:05.160 --> 1:44:07.559 But I feel like because of like how the game 1:44:07.760 --> 1:44:10.640 is today, because of all like the rule changes and 1:44:11.080 --> 1:44:14.680 everything that's going on, Like I feel like more how 1:44:14.720 --> 1:44:17.280 it is today is players are more involved than like, 1:44:17.360 --> 1:44:19.880 you know, doing the right thing, you know, being in 1:44:20.040 --> 1:44:24.280 the correct position. And uh, you know, we had like 1:44:24.320 --> 1:44:26.040 a saying in Green Bay, you just do your one 1:44:26.080 --> 1:44:28.120 a living like you know, you do your job to 1:44:28.200 --> 1:44:30.400 help your teammates, you know what I'm saying, instead of 1:44:30.520 --> 1:44:33.080 just how it's back in the day, it's like when 1:44:33.120 --> 1:44:36.559 you watch the family look man for themselves. Everybody trying 1:44:36.600 --> 1:44:37.479 to just get to the ball. 1:44:37.760 --> 1:44:43.680 Right. So the division, the AFC North, you're now too, 1:44:43.760 --> 1:44:46.080 and all in the division, you have the best record 1:44:46.720 --> 1:44:50.519 of any football team in the AFC North. What's it 1:44:50.640 --> 1:44:53.600 going to take to win the division when all of 1:44:53.640 --> 1:44:54.240 a sudden done. 1:44:55.800 --> 1:44:57.360 Uh, it's going to take good defense. 1:44:58.520 --> 1:45:00.000 It is just just division. 1:45:00.840 --> 1:45:02.880 Just to keep it like the short and simple. It's 1:45:02.920 --> 1:45:03.960 gonna take a good defense. 1:45:04.160 --> 1:45:04.280 Uh. 1:45:05.200 --> 1:45:09.720 Even though yes we we just beat Aaron, but we 1:45:10.040 --> 1:45:14.040 Lamar are still a great quarterback. That's a great team, 1:45:14.120 --> 1:45:18.040 football team. That's uh, that's they have a great head 1:45:18.080 --> 1:45:22.040 coach over there, you know. And then they have a 1:45:22.080 --> 1:45:25.120 lot of pieces, a lot of pieces, a lot of receivers. 1:45:25.720 --> 1:45:29.400 They got a running back, they got big o'roonman. Uh, 1:45:29.439 --> 1:45:31.800 they got a good they got a great defensive line. 1:45:32.439 --> 1:45:35.400 So it's gonna be a lot that we're gonna have 1:45:35.439 --> 1:45:36.240 to bring to that game. 1:45:37.160 --> 1:45:40.280 You know, when when you think about where you're from Plantation, Florida, 1:45:40.280 --> 1:45:43.599 and that that that footprint down. Yeah for a lot 1:45:43.640 --> 1:45:46.400 of man so many players come up out of that 1:45:46.520 --> 1:45:48.120 area that that are in the NFL. 1:45:48.160 --> 1:45:50.280 What what is it about that area? Is it just 1:45:50.520 --> 1:45:55.559 football year round? Is it competition or it's hot you 1:45:55.640 --> 1:45:58.600 got to get after it's hot. 1:45:59.479 --> 1:46:02.080 I don't know community. Yeah, that's what I'm saying, Like, 1:46:02.160 --> 1:46:07.040 I don't know what the percentages are, yeah, of why 1:46:07.160 --> 1:46:10.800 players come out of more of the hotter places. Yeah, 1:46:10.880 --> 1:46:13.200 but since it's my you know, my four years in 1:46:13.240 --> 1:46:18.120 the league, I've heard a lot of New Jersey. I've 1:46:18.120 --> 1:46:22.480 heard a lot of Cali, Texas. Maybe I've heard from Texas. 1:46:22.680 --> 1:46:23.080 Uh. 1:46:23.360 --> 1:46:26.080 And I heard a lot of Georgia. Yeah, just not 1:46:26.160 --> 1:46:27.320 the University. 1:46:26.840 --> 1:46:29.080 Of Georgia, but just from the state of Georgia. 1:46:29.960 --> 1:46:32.360 But it's just like the hot places. I don't know 1:46:32.360 --> 1:46:35.680 what the statistics are, but the hot places is what's 1:46:36.120 --> 1:46:39.120 you know, is what people are just recruiting. 1:46:39.000 --> 1:46:41.880 Right just because I'm I'm a Michigan football fan, and 1:46:41.880 --> 1:46:45.880 you'll see guys from from Florida up in Michigan, or 1:46:45.920 --> 1:46:50.360 you see somebody in California, USC from Florida. 1:46:50.479 --> 1:46:51.840 That's a long way from home. 1:46:52.720 --> 1:46:54.920 Even though Shamar, you know, he went to Texas, A 1:46:54.960 --> 1:46:57.080 and M and he's from Miami, so you know, he's 1:46:57.120 --> 1:46:58.639 down the bottom and he's all the way. 1:46:58.520 --> 1:47:01.280 Out there in Texas. But there's something to be said 1:47:01.320 --> 1:47:01.720 about that. 1:47:01.880 --> 1:47:04.559 But that's what that just like, I don't know why 1:47:04.600 --> 1:47:06.519 it's like that. It's just I don't know if it's 1:47:06.680 --> 1:47:09.640 it's just like the humidity or the athletics ism, like, 1:47:09.880 --> 1:47:13.840 it's just that is what it is. No matter what 1:47:14.920 --> 1:47:18.080 division ie college school you're looking at or what conference, 1:47:18.120 --> 1:47:21.200 there's always gonna be a guy from Florida. 1:47:21.280 --> 1:47:27.559 So what what what player that you played against, be 1:47:27.640 --> 1:47:32.519 a junior, high, high school, or collegiate or National Football 1:47:32.560 --> 1:47:37.680 League level, was a lowe, was a stud was like 1:47:38.040 --> 1:47:40.840 man at the end of the games, like, I'm sure, man, 1:47:40.880 --> 1:47:42.479 this dude, that was a heck of a battle. 1:47:42.640 --> 1:47:44.280 I played a couple of I played a couple of 1:47:44.320 --> 1:47:49.920 guys who were extremely good in uh high school, Like 1:47:49.960 --> 1:47:52.840 I had had a battle with Nick Bosa, uh Huh. 1:47:54.120 --> 1:47:58.000 I had to play a very good college football player 1:47:58.560 --> 1:48:04.920 Jacopolite in high school. Uh. I had to play Chase Young. 1:48:06.600 --> 1:48:10.120 Uh I forgot who I forgot the other guy who 1:48:10.200 --> 1:48:14.320 was on the other side of him, who were some 1:48:14.400 --> 1:48:16.440 other guys? 1:48:16.800 --> 1:48:19.719 Think you got tested, that's for sure. 1:48:19.840 --> 1:48:22.479 Right yeah, But that's because like we were just like 1:48:22.840 --> 1:48:24.640 a good high school and we used to have like 1:48:24.720 --> 1:48:29.880 good like opening games to the city. So, yeah, did. 1:48:29.720 --> 1:48:31.839 You do a lot of traveling one of those schools, 1:48:31.840 --> 1:48:34.400 Like would you come to Ohio and play Molar if 1:48:34.439 --> 1:48:35.400 they called or whatever? 1:48:36.240 --> 1:48:41.160 See, my high school didn't for some reason. We didn't 1:48:41.200 --> 1:48:43.920 want to travel that much. So like all of the 1:48:43.920 --> 1:48:45.920 schools that came to us, like we had to play 1:48:46.000 --> 1:48:52.040 like Don Bosco Jersey, the Mathas were Chase Young Win 1:48:52.280 --> 1:48:55.519 So those were all like like the pre kickoff season 1:48:55.560 --> 1:48:59.160 of games that was like on TV. They probably yeah, 1:48:59.240 --> 1:49:01.439 they always tried to us, like you know, but you 1:49:01.439 --> 1:49:03.759 gotta think about it, Like the Matha and Don Bosco, 1:49:03.880 --> 1:49:06.040 those are like cold please. I was just saying, they 1:49:06.120 --> 1:49:08.200 probably want to get them kids out of it like that, right, 1:49:08.479 --> 1:49:09.240 you know what I'm saying. 1:49:09.400 --> 1:49:12.479 Yeah, you put me down there too. Let's take every 1:49:12.479 --> 1:49:13.920 book come back. We're talking to t J. 1:49:14.040 --> 1:49:14.320 Slaton. 1:49:14.360 --> 1:49:17.679 You're listening to the Bengals pep Rally Show, broadcasting live 1:49:17.840 --> 1:49:21.160 from the on the Ryan Eatery and presented by just 1:49:21.240 --> 1:49:25.480 Bear Chicken. Back to the Bengals pep Rally Show broadcasting 1:49:25.600 --> 1:49:28.200 live from on the Ryan Eatery, one hundred Court Street, 1:49:28.720 --> 1:49:31.479 presented by just Bear Chicken. On the Bengals Radio Network, 1:49:31.479 --> 1:49:33.759 Wayne box Filler, Dave Lapham, and TJ. 1:49:33.880 --> 1:49:36.160 Slaton joined us. Brother, Thank you so much man for 1:49:36.200 --> 1:49:38.599 hanging out with us. Pull that down for you. 1:49:39.520 --> 1:49:41.519 You know, I always say you got one of those 1:49:41.560 --> 1:49:45.320 personalities in the locker room that's infectious. And uh you 1:49:45.360 --> 1:49:47.920 know something you did, man, when you talk about leadership 1:49:47.960 --> 1:49:51.200 and guys that that know what this is. I was 1:49:51.240 --> 1:49:54.400 interviewing one of the young guys and uh I said 1:49:54.400 --> 1:49:57.320 something to him a cam sample. Yeah, and I did 1:49:57.360 --> 1:49:59.840 my uh I do my thing called the gratitude game. 1:50:00.000 --> 1:50:02.240 It's like one person. 1:50:02.200 --> 1:50:04.800 Are three people, you're grateful for, two things you're hopeful for, 1:50:05.520 --> 1:50:08.080 and you know the one thing you wish for. And 1:50:08.439 --> 1:50:11.920 he said to get to super Bowl. Something you said 1:50:11.960 --> 1:50:14.640 no to win the Super Bowl. And it was what 1:50:15.040 --> 1:50:16.160 a mindset is about. 1:50:16.320 --> 1:50:16.479 You know. 1:50:16.520 --> 1:50:19.200 It's like, man, you got to think about not getting 1:50:19.240 --> 1:50:22.360 there but winning that and getting that there. Where did 1:50:22.360 --> 1:50:24.400 that positive and that focus come from? 1:50:24.520 --> 1:50:24.600 You. 1:50:24.720 --> 1:50:26.479 Was there somebody along the way to kind of say, 1:50:26.479 --> 1:50:28.240 hey man, you gotta think like this. 1:50:29.680 --> 1:50:34.640 I think I would probably say probably Kenny Clerk. I 1:50:34.760 --> 1:50:42.599 remember it was my it was my rookie year. We 1:50:42.640 --> 1:50:43.840 went thirteen to three. 1:50:44.080 --> 1:50:44.360 Wow. 1:50:44.760 --> 1:50:50.360 And we had the first round by and we lost 1:50:50.400 --> 1:50:58.880 by field though, And that the whole first the whole 1:50:58.920 --> 1:51:01.479 first round, the whole while car around. There were three 1:51:01.960 --> 1:51:04.400 there were three to four games won by a field goal. 1:51:04.520 --> 1:51:05.040 Wow. 1:51:05.680 --> 1:51:10.360 And literally I was telling myself that whole week that 1:51:10.640 --> 1:51:13.040 I don't want to be a team that wins that 1:51:13.120 --> 1:51:15.680 loses by a field goal, because it's like it's the 1:51:15.720 --> 1:51:18.680 most annoying waiver to lose it's by a field goal, 1:51:18.720 --> 1:51:21.440 because it's like it's one of the hardest things to stop. 1:51:22.000 --> 1:51:26.360 So and then we had a mishap right before halftime 1:51:27.200 --> 1:51:32.000 and they scored. They recovered, they blocked our punt and 1:51:32.080 --> 1:51:35.120 recovered the ball and then kicked the field goal, and 1:51:35.160 --> 1:51:37.600 then we going to halftime. And then I think that 1:51:37.760 --> 1:51:40.919 game was I think the game score was like, uh, 1:51:41.320 --> 1:51:45.600 like it was like nine, like six. It was like 1:51:45.640 --> 1:51:47.800 a weird like game. So it was a hard game. 1:51:47.880 --> 1:51:51.559 And then at the end of the game I went 1:51:51.640 --> 1:51:54.519 out onto the field to you know, to shake hands 1:51:54.560 --> 1:51:57.559 with everybody. And I look out the left corner of 1:51:57.560 --> 1:51:59.400 my I mean the right corner of my eye, and 1:51:59.400 --> 1:52:02.840 I see case he's just running into the locker room. 1:52:03.240 --> 1:52:05.760 So I go straight into the locker room after him, 1:52:05.800 --> 1:52:08.479 and I'm like, and I asked him in the hallway, 1:52:08.520 --> 1:52:10.000 I'm like, what's up, Like you know why you didn't 1:52:10.000 --> 1:52:13.640 shake hands? He was just like he was like that's like, 1:52:13.840 --> 1:52:16.840 he was like, it's about sportsmanship. But at the same time, 1:52:16.960 --> 1:52:20.320 like we're trying to get somewhere, and like this is 1:52:20.360 --> 1:52:23.479 a playoff game, so the feeling is different. It's like 1:52:23.560 --> 1:52:27.519 it's harder to to congratulate the other team that just 1:52:27.560 --> 1:52:30.280 stopped you and the point of winning the Super Bowl 1:52:30.520 --> 1:52:33.400 or getting your chance to get to the dance, so 1:52:33.520 --> 1:52:36.960 like it's a different connect It's like and then it 1:52:37.080 --> 1:52:40.519 made me think and realized, like, Okay, we are in 1:52:40.560 --> 1:52:42.880 the NFL. We are playing this game, but it's not 1:52:42.960 --> 1:52:46.240 for a long a long time. So like, if you 1:52:46.280 --> 1:52:47.599 want to win the super Bowl, you got to win 1:52:47.600 --> 1:52:48.080 the Super Bowl. 1:52:48.240 --> 1:52:52.480 Now, you gotta win the super Bowl. 1:52:52.280 --> 1:52:56.560 So it wasn't that like he was being disrespectful to 1:52:56.600 --> 1:52:59.720 the other team. It was just like I'm more disappointed 1:52:59.880 --> 1:53:03.160 that we lost and and what I did that is 1:53:03.200 --> 1:53:05.680 like it's taken over to the point that like I 1:53:05.720 --> 1:53:12.240 can't be like, are you what I'm saying exactly? Like, yeah, So. 1:53:12.960 --> 1:53:18.559 What coach at the any level, elementary school, junior, high school, 1:53:18.760 --> 1:53:23.280 high school, college, NFL had the biggest impact on teaching you, 1:53:23.360 --> 1:53:26.760 not necessarily just your football coach, but you played basketball, 1:53:26.880 --> 1:53:29.200 and I don't know how much baseball you played, but 1:53:29.240 --> 1:53:33.200 I've played a bunch of sports, and you know at 1:53:33.240 --> 1:53:37.840 those levels, be it football, basketball, baseball, shot put, discuss whatever. 1:53:37.880 --> 1:53:38.360 Wrestling. 1:53:38.880 --> 1:53:40.479 Uh I bet you would have been a hell of 1:53:40.520 --> 1:53:41.560 wrestled you wrestling? 1:53:41.880 --> 1:53:44.360 Uh No, they wouldn't. 1:53:43.439 --> 1:53:49.120 Would I can believe that what what coach had had 1:53:49.120 --> 1:53:50.160 the biggest impact on you? 1:53:51.360 --> 1:53:59.800 Uh my already I wouldn't said my high school coach. 1:54:00.000 --> 1:54:01.680 When I got to college. I want to say my 1:54:01.720 --> 1:54:05.080 freshman year. I had three different D line coaches at college, 1:54:05.439 --> 1:54:09.200 but my freshman year of college coach he definitely like 1:54:09.200 --> 1:54:13.360 like like his instead of making me a football player, 1:54:13.479 --> 1:54:15.320 like he wanted to make me a football player and 1:54:15.360 --> 1:54:19.439 a man at the same time. So like before meetings 1:54:19.479 --> 1:54:21.360 and stuff like that, he would have like we would 1:54:21.400 --> 1:54:25.400 have like open floor conversations like about like family and 1:54:25.439 --> 1:54:30.280 then like like money and like you know, like you know, 1:54:30.600 --> 1:54:33.200 signing off on a car or like anything to do 1:54:33.240 --> 1:54:35.280 with like a house. Like he just wanted to make 1:54:35.320 --> 1:54:38.720 sure like we were doing like the correct things or 1:54:38.760 --> 1:54:42.160 at least had the had thoughts or even just had 1:54:42.160 --> 1:54:44.960 the conversations to like even have those thoughts in the 1:54:45.400 --> 1:54:49.760 future to to better you know, better equipped ourselves on 1:54:49.840 --> 1:54:50.680 the field and off. 1:54:51.040 --> 1:54:52.720 I love that guy. I don't even know who he is, 1:54:52.760 --> 1:54:56.120 but Chris Rump. Yeah, all right, let's take a break. 1:54:56.120 --> 1:55:00.040 We'll come back and finish our conversations with probably so 1:55:00.160 --> 1:55:03.440 presented by just Bear Chicken on the Bengals Radio Network. 1:55:05.920 --> 1:55:09.640 The Bengals Far Browley Show broadcasting live right here after 1:55:09.640 --> 1:55:12.760 the on the over the Ryan Eatery one under Court Street, 1:55:12.800 --> 1:55:16.520 presented by just Bear Chicken on the Bengals Radio Network. 1:55:16.560 --> 1:55:18.680 Wayne Box, Miller, Dave Lapham, t J. 1:55:18.880 --> 1:55:21.120 Slaton Man, thank you so much for hanging out with 1:55:21.200 --> 1:55:22.920 us and the Bengal fans. 1:55:22.960 --> 1:55:28.160 And I got to ask you the NFL moment I like. 1:55:28.240 --> 1:55:30.320 To ask guys about is the first time and this 1:55:30.360 --> 1:55:32.800 is in Green Bay obviously because they drafted you the 1:55:32.840 --> 1:55:34.760 first time you go out on that field in that 1:55:34.960 --> 1:55:37.120 uniform and you say, man, I'm in the NFL. 1:55:38.160 --> 1:55:40.320 What was that like for you? That smile jumped on 1:55:40.360 --> 1:55:40.840 your face. 1:55:40.960 --> 1:55:46.120 Man, that was crazy. H It was my first preseason 1:55:46.200 --> 1:55:51.200 game against the Houston Texas. Yeah, Like we practiced in 1:55:51.240 --> 1:55:54.920 the stadium before that, we had a joint practice in there. 1:55:55.320 --> 1:55:58.480 But it wasn't the same like the next day, like 1:55:58.520 --> 1:56:02.480 all the fans and everything, and like I was literally 1:56:02.560 --> 1:56:05.000 standing out there, like standing in the tunnel and I 1:56:05.040 --> 1:56:08.080 was just like I literally said that like like oh 1:56:08.160 --> 1:56:10.880 my god, I'm in the NFL, and then running out 1:56:10.920 --> 1:56:14.120 and then like the smoke and everything else. It was 1:56:14.160 --> 1:56:15.800 fun talk. 1:56:15.680 --> 1:56:18.280 About your family and sharing that. If you were able 1:56:18.320 --> 1:56:20.600 to share that opening game with your family, what it. 1:56:20.760 --> 1:56:24.120 Was like, Oh that was cool. You know, that was 1:56:24.120 --> 1:56:28.960 fun having my family there, my mom and my sisters. Uh. 1:56:29.280 --> 1:56:32.200 It was just like more of one of those like 1:56:32.200 --> 1:56:33.720 like kind of like like we. 1:56:33.840 --> 1:56:38.480 Here, you know what I'm saying, Like, Yeah, it. 1:56:38.360 --> 1:56:40.840 Was more like it was more like a flash type 1:56:40.840 --> 1:56:44.120 of moment, like when I would be sitting down like 1:56:44.200 --> 1:56:46.760 at home, like watching the games on TV and then 1:56:46.800 --> 1:56:49.040 now I'm back to playing one so it was just 1:56:49.080 --> 1:56:52.800 like that beautiful, like that moment in my head. It 1:56:52.840 --> 1:56:54.760 was just like seeing myself sitting in front of the 1:56:54.760 --> 1:56:57.720 TV and then it going away and then seeing myself 1:56:57.760 --> 1:57:00.680 standing in the tunnel. So it was like that was cool. 1:57:00.840 --> 1:57:03.480 That is cool, all right? So I hope this is 1:57:03.520 --> 1:57:05.920 at least a decade away. But when you're done playing 1:57:05.960 --> 1:57:10.200 football in the National Football League, would you want to 1:57:10.240 --> 1:57:12.640 coach or would you want to get into some other profession? 1:57:14.760 --> 1:57:16.360 I don't know. I might be one of them. I'll 1:57:16.400 --> 1:57:18.520 be I might be on one of them. Thirty seven 1:57:18.600 --> 1:57:22.600 you team, It might be on one thirty seven. 1:57:24.560 --> 1:57:26.320 I love it, love it. 1:57:27.240 --> 1:57:30.280 Talk about you've got some you got some years under 1:57:30.280 --> 1:57:32.160 your belt. Now, it's funny. Has it gone fast? 1:57:32.240 --> 1:57:32.360 Few? 1:57:32.400 --> 1:57:34.920 Because guys say, all of a sudden, one minute your rookie, 1:57:35.000 --> 1:57:38.360 the next minue you got five years in Nah, not 1:57:38.480 --> 1:57:38.840 at all. 1:57:39.240 --> 1:57:45.160 You live every day, every meeting, every practice. It does 1:57:45.200 --> 1:57:47.400 not go by fast. I ain't gonna lie. Like when 1:57:47.400 --> 1:57:50.760 you're winning, Yeah, when you're winning the week's team to 1:57:50.840 --> 1:57:54.520 go by fast. But when you're like having an up 1:57:54.600 --> 1:57:57.880 and down season or you have a like kind of 1:57:57.880 --> 1:58:02.040 like a slow start, heavy, every days get longer, they 1:58:02.120 --> 1:58:04.640 feel like hours take forever to go by. 1:58:05.040 --> 1:58:05.320 Wow. 1:58:05.560 --> 1:58:10.040 Yes, yeah, So whereabouts you stay? Are you a northern 1:58:10.120 --> 1:58:13.320 Kentucky guy? Are you over the river by the stadiums. 1:58:13.960 --> 1:58:17.600 I'm in Mount Lookout Point? Oh okay, yeah, yeah, you know. 1:58:17.720 --> 1:58:19.920 Far from work. I'm a matter of fact, I was 1:58:19.960 --> 1:58:21.840 looking at that because I dropped my bracelet. 1:58:22.640 --> 1:58:25.840 I don't know if you found that way. 1:58:26.600 --> 1:58:28.360 You know, I didn't know you had it. 1:58:28.400 --> 1:58:31.000 They said somebody was going to bring it home right, 1:58:31.400 --> 1:58:32.480 very bright and shiny. 1:58:32.520 --> 1:58:34.280 Man, you know I had it right. I don't know 1:58:34.280 --> 1:58:38.240 what happened to get the class fixed on that. 1:58:39.000 --> 1:58:43.520 TJ talk about mentorship in some respects because you have 1:58:43.600 --> 1:58:45.720 some young guys on the D line and you guys 1:58:46.000 --> 1:58:48.360 observe a very close knit group. What are some of 1:58:48.360 --> 1:58:50.160 the things you just try to tell the first second 1:58:50.200 --> 1:58:52.840 year guys about this league and this game and the 1:58:52.880 --> 1:58:53.600 business of it. 1:58:53.560 --> 1:58:58.720 All, just you know, just trying to tell them to 1:58:58.960 --> 1:59:03.640 find a routine that like, you know that suits then come, 1:59:03.680 --> 1:59:06.360 you know, come in a little earlier, like maybe thirty 1:59:06.360 --> 1:59:08.200 minutes or sometimes if it has to be an hour 1:59:08.320 --> 1:59:09.880 to get it in a little early. You know, get 1:59:09.920 --> 1:59:12.720 your body right. If you're a scratch guy, you know, 1:59:13.040 --> 1:59:15.560 get up, come in you know, scratch. If you're a 1:59:15.560 --> 1:59:19.400 tough guy, come get in the tub. You know, little 1:59:19.440 --> 1:59:20.200 things like that. 1:59:20.800 --> 1:59:21.000 You know. 1:59:21.080 --> 1:59:23.440 They always come to me, you know and ask me 1:59:23.480 --> 1:59:26.480 little things that that can help them, you know, contribute 1:59:26.520 --> 1:59:29.440 to that game, or like ask me questions like Okay, 1:59:29.440 --> 1:59:32.600 in this situation, what would you do? Yeah, and just 1:59:32.640 --> 1:59:36.840 like like you know me personally, I don't really look 1:59:36.840 --> 1:59:39.040 at it as like a leader thing. I really just 1:59:39.080 --> 1:59:41.440 look at it as just somebody looking for information and 1:59:41.560 --> 1:59:43.400 I have, you know, just giving it out. 1:59:43.520 --> 1:59:45.320 So he'll like that. 1:59:46.120 --> 1:59:49.320 Nah, But Kenley tries to sneak it and every now 1:59:50.880 --> 1:59:53.040 like they be like, man, you know, I'm on your two, 1:59:53.320 --> 1:59:55.600 you on five. I was like, yeah, you on your two, 1:59:55.640 --> 1:59:57.680 I'm on your five. I'm just still just just as 1:59:57.680 --> 2:00:01.680 young as you are. Just two years ago, I was 2:00:01.720 --> 2:00:07.280 on year two. Like I've been in the same boat, 2:00:07.680 --> 2:00:12.160 you know what I'm saying. So, but yeah, man, it's 2:00:12.280 --> 2:00:15.440 it's always cool. It's fun to go in with you guys. 2:00:15.800 --> 2:00:18.760 Yeah, here's a question that I think you you know, 2:00:18.800 --> 2:00:22.000 you've been around ballers and green Man. You come here 2:00:22.560 --> 2:00:26.320 and you see a guy like Joe Burrow, Joe Flacco. 2:00:26.760 --> 2:00:29.400 These guys are just they're different, man, and and talk 2:00:29.440 --> 2:00:30.840 about just that. 2:00:30.960 --> 2:00:32.880 If back to these guys, have you just kind of 2:00:32.960 --> 2:00:33.720 know it, don't. 2:00:33.480 --> 2:00:37.720 You when you Yeah, Like I was just telling so 2:00:37.840 --> 2:00:42.400 I was telling Chris Jenkins in the game, I looked 2:00:42.520 --> 2:00:46.800 to the sideline and uh, Jamo is telling us to 2:00:47.160 --> 2:00:50.600 watch listen for hard count. And I'm telling Chris, I'm like, 2:00:51.680 --> 2:00:54.520 listen for the hard count because you don't want us 2:00:54.560 --> 2:00:57.200 to get you. Don't want him to get you. Trying 2:00:57.240 --> 2:00:59.080 to tell you don't want him to get you. He 2:00:59.200 --> 2:01:05.040 got eighteen toes now passes off hard counts and then 2:01:05.120 --> 2:01:07.720 like his he has one of the best hard counts, 2:01:07.760 --> 2:01:10.800 like ever, Like when I was in Green Bay, he 2:01:10.880 --> 2:01:14.600 got us, he went on six, Like he went on 2:01:14.720 --> 2:01:17.560 six in a practice, he went on six. And then 2:01:17.560 --> 2:01:19.919 in one practice, I think he got us four times 2:01:20.040 --> 2:01:22.160 in one practice one practice. 2:01:22.360 --> 2:01:23.640 I know the coaches weren't happy. 2:01:23.960 --> 2:01:26.320 That is real. But then like playing with a guy 2:01:26.400 --> 2:01:30.880 like Joe, it's just I think it's just like fun, 2:01:31.560 --> 2:01:33.360 you know what I'm saying, Like playing with a guy 2:01:33.480 --> 2:01:36.360 or just of his caliber. Uh, just playing with the 2:01:36.440 --> 2:01:39.480 guys like who has so much poise, who's just as 2:01:39.520 --> 2:01:40.360 calm as he is. 2:01:40.600 --> 2:01:41.720 Yeah, you know what I'm saying. 2:01:42.320 --> 2:01:45.040 Uh, he just but he also like has like that 2:01:45.040 --> 2:01:48.760 that or like energy to him, you know what I'm saying. So, 2:01:49.200 --> 2:01:52.800 but you know I played Joe three times in college. 2:01:55.640 --> 2:01:55.800 There. 2:01:56.600 --> 2:02:00.520 Yeah, his but his his year was deaf me, like 2:02:00.560 --> 2:02:05.760 the undefeated year they had, going up there to the 2:02:05.880 --> 2:02:09.800 valley to play him. Him walking in the game and 2:02:09.920 --> 2:02:12.640 leaving the same way he came in, Like it was 2:02:12.800 --> 2:02:17.760 like crazy. And then you know, go to the draft, 2:02:17.840 --> 2:02:20.880 get drafted, come to Cincinnatti and then my first half 2:02:20.880 --> 2:02:21.800 a sack is on Joe. 2:02:23.520 --> 2:02:29.400 That show you're h You mentioned the word fun. When 2:02:29.440 --> 2:02:32.720 the game's not fun anymore? Time to get out, you 2:02:32.760 --> 2:02:35.240 know what I mean. It's it's it's like, all right, 2:02:35.320 --> 2:02:40.640 well now football, I mean it's a game, but it 2:02:40.680 --> 2:02:41.680 can't become a chore. 2:02:41.760 --> 2:02:41.920 You know. 2:02:42.040 --> 2:02:45.120 It's like, uh, what would you when you do get 2:02:45.120 --> 2:02:47.960 out of football? When football is done? What do you 2:02:47.960 --> 2:02:50.760 want to do? What would you would you would would 2:02:50.760 --> 2:02:52.520 you get into another profession? What would you do? 2:02:53.640 --> 2:02:56.800 I really haven't thought a rot getting into coaching as 2:02:56.840 --> 2:03:01.640 far as like another profession, Like I don't I haven't 2:03:01.640 --> 2:03:02.800 really gave it him much thought. 2:03:07.040 --> 2:03:08.880 Left they got a lot of years left. 2:03:09.120 --> 2:03:11.080 Let's get this last break in and we'll come back 2:03:11.120 --> 2:03:12.040 and wrap up with TJ. 2:03:12.160 --> 2:03:14.080 Slayton to get him about here. Thank you for being 2:03:14.080 --> 2:03:15.000 here from the. 2:03:14.960 --> 2:03:18.960 Bengals pet Rolly Show, broadcasting live from Over the Ryan Eatery, 2:03:19.720 --> 2:03:22.520 presented by Just Bear Chicking on the Bengals Radio Network. 2:03:24.600 --> 2:03:27.160 Welcome back to Bingles pet Rally Show, presented by Just 2:03:27.240 --> 2:03:30.680 Bear Chicken on the Bengals Radio Network. We're at the 2:03:30.720 --> 2:03:33.600 O t R Eatery or the Over and Around Eatery. 2:03:33.640 --> 2:03:36.360 I tell you what, this place got some great stuff here. 2:03:36.880 --> 2:03:38.680 Wayne Box, Miller, Dave Lap I'm TJ. 2:03:38.840 --> 2:03:41.440 Slayton Man. Thank you so much for hanging out with us. 2:03:41.680 --> 2:03:45.160 I appreciate you and uh just a joy I've ever 2:03:45.200 --> 2:03:47.560 since you got here. I remember meeting you and you 2:03:47.600 --> 2:03:51.480 just have that infectious personality. And one of the things 2:03:51.520 --> 2:03:55.080 that I wanted to ask you was does that come 2:03:55.200 --> 2:03:57.160 Is that something that your mom has or something you 2:03:57.240 --> 2:04:01.320 developed your sister's Where did that personality come from? 2:04:01.880 --> 2:04:04.080 I want to say it's probably a blend between my 2:04:04.680 --> 2:04:07.440 mom and my dad. Yeah, yeah, they both got like 2:04:07.560 --> 2:04:08.880 kind of big personalities. 2:04:09.200 --> 2:04:09.440 Yeah. 2:04:09.640 --> 2:04:12.440 Yeah, Because you're you're smooth, with it like I watch 2:04:12.520 --> 2:04:14.640 it like I'm gonna be this way, but I can 2:04:14.680 --> 2:04:15.760 be this way too, you know. 2:04:16.280 --> 2:04:18.240 Yeah, you adjust, as they say pivot. 2:04:20.640 --> 2:04:22.480 I mean I'm more of a like acquired and I'm 2:04:22.520 --> 2:04:26.080 more of a like to my to myself type of person. Uh, 2:04:26.240 --> 2:04:30.280 but I mean I could also be like outgoing to 2:04:29.960 --> 2:04:34.240 h due to like certain conversations or probably like environments. 2:04:34.680 --> 2:04:36.640 You have a lot of leadership traits. I mean, there 2:04:36.640 --> 2:04:39.280 are a lot of players in this roster, in that 2:04:39.320 --> 2:04:42.000 locker room that have leadership traits. They've done a great 2:04:42.080 --> 2:04:47.760 job of finding people that are high character, high fiber 2:04:48.680 --> 2:04:54.640 type individuals. How strong are the personalities on this football team? 2:04:54.920 --> 2:04:58.400 Oh we got a blanch man, you know, especially just 2:04:58.440 --> 2:05:01.960 on the D line. Yeah, you got Crazy, got DJ 2:05:03.280 --> 2:05:08.160 like to you know, outgoing, outspoken people, uh Trade obviously 2:05:09.080 --> 2:05:13.160 a very demanding person. You got Logan, you got Cam 2:05:13.240 --> 2:05:20.800 Taylor brit who's very outgoing energy. Uh JB's uh crazy guy, 2:05:21.160 --> 2:05:25.040 bounces off the walls all over the uh DJ turners 2:05:25.080 --> 2:05:27.320 another like crazy guy. 2:05:27.000 --> 2:05:27.240 Yeah. 2:05:27.440 --> 2:05:30.600 So we got a bunch of uh different personalities on 2:05:30.640 --> 2:05:34.360 this D line. And but but at the end of 2:05:34.400 --> 2:05:37.480 the day, it's all high energy guys. So like, that's 2:05:37.520 --> 2:05:40.160 what that's what you really want around. You want somebody 2:05:40.200 --> 2:05:43.120 who can always change the atmosphere and the energy of 2:05:43.200 --> 2:05:47.000 the room. Rather it's like, you know, funny or even 2:05:47.040 --> 2:05:49.160 if we're going to feeling that you can play. 2:05:49.560 --> 2:05:51.920 Well, let me ask you this as we wrap up here. 2:05:52.840 --> 2:05:55.600 I always ask players this because so many times people 2:05:55.600 --> 2:05:59.280 in the car riding listening and your kids have aspirations. 2:05:59.280 --> 2:06:01.839 What would you say to a young man or who. 2:06:01.680 --> 2:06:04.280 Has a desire to one day play in the NFL 2:06:04.440 --> 2:06:06.800 or at the younger part of it's like, what advice 2:06:06.840 --> 2:06:09.160 would you give him? Uh? 2:06:10.360 --> 2:06:16.760 Definitely, just trust the process, you know what I'm saying, 2:06:17.680 --> 2:06:23.640 Trust your process, work hard. Like things. There are things 2:06:23.720 --> 2:06:27.080 that you are going to notice that you have to force, 2:06:27.400 --> 2:06:29.320 and there are things that you are going to notice 2:06:29.360 --> 2:06:31.720 that you just have to let you know, let do 2:06:31.880 --> 2:06:34.960 what they are, you know what I'm saying. So I 2:06:35.000 --> 2:06:37.400 know everybody always be like, oh, you know, tell them 2:06:37.400 --> 2:06:40.480 to stay in school and get good grades. It's like, 2:06:41.000 --> 2:06:43.640 but when it comes to this like this at the 2:06:43.720 --> 2:06:45.560 end of the day, like you said, this is a game, 2:06:46.080 --> 2:06:49.560 but this is also like a skill in the craft 2:06:49.600 --> 2:06:52.040 that you can work on so long as you just 2:06:52.080 --> 2:06:55.320 stay focused on your skill and your craft and have 2:06:55.400 --> 2:06:58.800 a good mindset. Like this game and what it can 2:06:58.920 --> 2:07:01.360 provide and change life, no. 2:07:01.520 --> 2:07:03.480 Question, ladis and tell them let's give it up a 2:07:03.560 --> 2:07:06.520 TJ slaty s. Thank you all for joining us. We'll 2:07:06.560 --> 2:07:09.160 be back next week. Not this siding, but it's the 2:07:09.200 --> 2:07:11.360 Ring of Honor with Dave Lapham Is going up on 2:07:11.400 --> 2:07:11.760 the wall. 2:07:12.040 --> 2:07:13.040 Thank you for joining us. 2:07:13.040 --> 2:07:14.960 It's been the Bengals pint rally is so presented by 2:07:15.080 --> 2:07:18.720 Just Bear Chicken on the Bengals Radio Network. 2:07:18.760 --> 2:07:22.600 This was Bengals pmp Rally presented by Just Beared Chicken 2:07:22.720 --> 2:07:26.160 on the Bengals Radio Network. 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