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Speaker 3: Good afternoon, and welcome to the Bengals pep Rallies Show
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Speaker 3: caught their breath, reloaded and calibrated, the fibrillators are back
Speaker 3: in the positions, and all good. Dave Lapham a prime
Speaker 3: time wide out game. It was an amazing display of
Speaker 3: football by two gentlemen who should by now be getting.
Speaker 4: A call from their agency. We just secured the icy
Speaker 4: hot deal.
Speaker 5: I'll tell you it was. It was a help. It
Speaker 5: was a hell of a football games, There's no question
Speaker 5: about it. I mean, you got two quarterbacks over forty
Speaker 5: years old, both of them, and they put on a
Speaker 5: show offensive display. Thirty three thirty one unbelievable. Who would
Speaker 5: have ever thought that the Bengals and Steelers would score
Speaker 5: sixty four points? I mean, I know I didn't would
Speaker 5: I wouldn't have thought that before the season started. That, Yeah,
Speaker 5: when Pittsburgh comes to Cincinnati, I'm going to put sixty
Speaker 5: four on the board. Not with that Pittsburgh Steeler defense,
Speaker 5: I mean the reputation that the Pittsburgh Steelers have to
Speaker 5: play a high level of defensive football, a great brand
Speaker 5: of defensive football. To hang, you know, thirty three points
Speaker 5: on them is an unbelievable.
Speaker 3: Accomplishment, There's no question about it. I think one of
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Speaker 4: We'll be talking to.
Speaker 3: Brooke Pryor from ESPN Pittsburgh in the second hour and
Speaker 3: trying to confirm Max Starks from Pittsburgh, still a radio
Speaker 3: the son of former Bengal Across Browner. And then in
Speaker 3: the third hour, we'll have Bengo defensive lineman TJ.
Speaker 4: Slayton in the building.
Speaker 3: He's gonna hang out with us, which we appreciate. But
Speaker 3: we got a lot to get into. We got fantastic
Speaker 3: fun facts, We got an interview. I wanted to share
Speaker 3: the interview I did with Peter Ganshirt, who's with the
Speaker 3: NFL calls them wellness clinicians, but dealing with players and
Speaker 3: mental health, which has become much.
Speaker 4: More of a bigger deal and an open thing.
Speaker 3: People are understanding to talk about mental health in that capacity. Right,
Speaker 3: we're gonna kick this show off and go to the presser.
Speaker 3: Zach Taylor met with the media today and we'll share
Speaker 3: that with you right now.
Speaker 6: So to be tune over the division right in the
Speaker 6: thick of everything that we've been talking about. With another
Speaker 6: home game coming up, chance to get healthy this next
Speaker 6: couple of days. Really really just proud of the guys
Speaker 6: in the effort and happy to get a win. Outstanding, outstanding, outstanding, Yeah, Joe,
Speaker 6: I mean it was outstanding. Really, I mean, we're we're
Speaker 6: I mean we how many drive we scored on what
Speaker 6: like six of the last seven drives, maybe seven and
Speaker 6: the last eight seven of eight, okay, so and really
Speaker 6: early on we had some some drops and some quirky
Speaker 6: stuff happened that prevented a score there. So I just
Speaker 6: thought his performance outstanding, very very calm, collected, uh let
Speaker 6: us in a two minute drive to go win the
Speaker 6: game with a huge go ball to t get there's
Speaker 6: guys a chance to go make some plays. And impressed
Speaker 6: this performance. I thought our offensive line played outstanding. I
Speaker 6: mean that defensive line has been wreaking havoc the last
Speaker 6: couple of weeks and all the film we've watched, all
Speaker 6: these other teams and all the lion gave him a
Speaker 6: great shot. Our tight ends did an unbelievable job in
Speaker 6: the run game as well, and everybody stepped out for C.
Speaker 6: Margs after the catch. So just just collectively on offense
Speaker 6: it was great. And the defense getting at h.
Speaker 2: So to be too. And over the division right now.
Speaker 7: What stood out to you about Joe's didn't see them all.
Speaker 6: There was very few issues there, you know, in terms
Speaker 6: of throwing the ball. He was accurate, decisive and all
Speaker 6: the things I said about the protection held up, the
Speaker 6: guys doing their job and the routes. So again it
Speaker 6: was just really efficient performance and and keep building on it.
Speaker 2: What is camp Till with Brittany to do to kind
Speaker 2: of get himself.
Speaker 6: Back into just be consistent, you know, consistency week to week,
Speaker 6: day to day. It's the biggest thing.
Speaker 8: For him.
Speaker 6: So of course talented, high energy wants to do right.
Speaker 6: Just keep working at it.
Speaker 9: You obviously the route margin because of injury whatever else,
Speaker 9: you found the right room.
Speaker 6: I think as of right now, we'll we'll just keep
Speaker 6: working through it. But a lot of guys we know
Speaker 6: we can rely on. That's that's critical. Young guys that
Speaker 6: are sending veteran guys who we can depend on, and
Speaker 6: that's that's really good to have.
Speaker 2: Zach. Do you do you feel like it's positive for
Speaker 2: Trey Hendrickson. Is the long break here before the next game.
Speaker 6: Yeah, he was pushing to play yesterday, so I can't
Speaker 6: speak on that today, but I'd have to feel, you know,
Speaker 6: at least reasonably optimistic given that he was he was
Speaker 6: pushing to play yesterday.
Speaker 10: Black was talking about how like some of the plays,
Speaker 10: not the plays, but like simple like you know, thirdly
Speaker 10: octed your market.
Speaker 2: Look the ball to tea.
Speaker 10: How much do you see kind of the playmakers shine
Speaker 10: as as flackho kind of taste what's there?
Speaker 6: Yeah, And that's really always what we've hat on. It's,
Speaker 6: you know, just trying to find ways to get those
Speaker 6: guys at the ball. I think of Jamar's fifteen catches
Speaker 6: against Arizona was very similar. You know a lot of
Speaker 6: those were quick hitters, just trying to get the ball
Speaker 6: in his hands because you were getting some access there.
Speaker 6: And so yesterday was definitely a great example of that.
Speaker 6: I haven't talied them up yet, but there was. There
Speaker 6: was probably five to seven throws in the run game
Speaker 6: that we took. And anytime you're getting that, that's not
Speaker 6: a protection call for the lineman. They're blocking and run,
Speaker 6: so they get to come off. And usually you're throwing
Speaker 6: it because it's the best look you can get, so
Speaker 6: you should be getting a completion, and oftentimes when you're
Speaker 6: compleating it, you're getting Jamorrow one on one, which sooner
Speaker 6: or later that thing's going to break for a sixty
Speaker 6: yard game instead of sometimes a seven or eight yard game.
Speaker 6: So it's just a really really effective way to live
Speaker 6: and we'll try to continue to build off that we've
Speaker 6: always had it.
Speaker 2: We'll continue to build off of it as we go.
Speaker 10: And then maybe the biggest s trinkle of all time
Speaker 10: here was have beleave three straight dropbacks out of under center.
Speaker 11: Yeah, was that something that Flack alked well.
Speaker 2: Pitch had that recommendation. Pitch had seen some stuff.
Speaker 6: Going back against Pittsburgh previously that he thought would fit
Speaker 6: well on the plan, And so initially we had like
Speaker 6: an eight play package and then middled it down to three.
Speaker 2: We added another one. We had four total that we carried.
Speaker 2: They were good.
Speaker 6: It's it's some of them we had to check out of,
Speaker 6: you know, and sometimes that's gonna happen. But it was
Speaker 6: effective for us. The way that they tried to combat
Speaker 6: some of that stuff. We thought it would be effective
Speaker 6: for us. And whether we continue to build out or
Speaker 6: not and may be seen depending on our future opponents.
Speaker 12: Did the tape show you up the Barrett and Demetrios.
Speaker 6: Yeah, there's positives and there's thing to continue to learn from.
Speaker 6: And it's you know, I'm thinking, I don't know how
Speaker 6: many games Aaron Rodgers has played in, but as I'm
Speaker 6: watching the tape, it's you know, he's probably in the
Speaker 6: two thirties to two fifties in terms of amount of
Speaker 6: games he's played in his life. And I'm looking at
Speaker 6: two linebackers and Shamar playing in his real third game,
Speaker 6: second and half game. Almost they're playing games you know, six, five, three, And.
Speaker 2: Some of the things that that Rogers does really stress you.
Speaker 6: He tries to get you in a look and then
Speaker 6: he'd likes to check the play, and he's in the huddle,
Speaker 6: he's in tempo, and so it causes a lot of stress.
Speaker 6: And so there's a lot for these guys to learn from.
Speaker 6: They're going to continue to ascend and learn as they
Speaker 6: accumulate reps and they get to game seven and eight
Speaker 6: and nine. Someday they'll get to two fifty. Hopefully that'd
Speaker 6: be amazing. Uh, But it's just it's it's we're getting
Speaker 6: gain a lot from them getting this experience, and they're
Speaker 6: going to continue to get better every week. And I'm
Speaker 6: really pleased with the way that they approach everything, and
Speaker 6: they're just going to keep learning and keep getting better.
Speaker 2: Talk a lot about Mary to Run in the past,
Speaker 2: and it starts working last night. Yeah, the obvious one
Speaker 2: would be if you get a passion out to know.
Speaker 2: But what are some of them, maybe the more nuanced
Speaker 2: ways he saw.
Speaker 9: The last night impact.
Speaker 6: Well, we were trying to do best to get some
Speaker 6: variety there. Run the ball in some second tens against them,
Speaker 6: which they they oftentimes have the upper hand there. So
Speaker 6: we were trying to take that back little bit. And
Speaker 6: so they're not always sexy ten yard runs, but sometimes
Speaker 6: they're four and five yard runs that keep you out
Speaker 6: of a third and ten and so that to me
Speaker 6: was as important as Chase is explosive down the you know,
Speaker 6: the middle to the right sideline and the left one
Speaker 6: that he you know, toe tapped the sidelines. Those to
Speaker 6: me were as effective. It was a second ten run
Speaker 6: that got us to third and five or second and
Speaker 6: eight run that got us a first down. Those were
Speaker 6: the ones that to me as a play caller, really
Speaker 6: allowed us to effectively operate on offense.
Speaker 13: What do you think in the last couple of weeks
Speaker 13: here has been that has changed in the running? Is
Speaker 13: there is there something that you see and you notice
Speaker 13: that that looks different?
Speaker 6: Now, yeah, I mean it's it's I hate saying this,
Speaker 6: but because you're looking at it in the first couple
Speaker 6: of weeks and it's like we're just right there and
Speaker 6: there's just this one element on this play, and then
Speaker 6: the next place it's this other thing.
Speaker 2: And so.
Speaker 6: Once once that starts to click early in a game
Speaker 6: and you feel rhythm, the confidence rises, and again as
Speaker 6: important when you're completing football, sometimes we're just completing balls
Speaker 6: to second four. Now you can call another run and
Speaker 6: keep leaning on it. So you've heard me saying here
Speaker 6: a million times. Just getting a first down allows us
Speaker 6: to play more freely.
Speaker 2: We got a lot of.
Speaker 6: First downs last night, so you get a chance to
Speaker 6: let everything work more and keep even if you get
Speaker 6: a zero yard run or one yard run, you can
Speaker 6: still come back to it because you've got a good
Speaker 6: amount of plays in those drives and the offense has
Speaker 6: a lot of confidence. So it just allowed us to
Speaker 6: continue to lean into it. And you know, I hate
Speaker 6: to say it took off. We only ran it, you know,
Speaker 6: fifteen times or so, but it was effective for us,
Speaker 6: and it kept us on schedule and allowed us to
Speaker 6: do all the other things we want to do from
Speaker 6: an attacking standpoint.
Speaker 10: After getting black or ready to play two games in
Speaker 10: ten days and I get a chance to breathe kind
Speaker 10: of what's next in this process of and it's just
Speaker 10: been a crash force.
Speaker 2: But now maybe you get.
Speaker 14: To do a little more.
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, And again it's it's all coming to him.
Speaker 6: It's all making a lot of sense to him. What
Speaker 6: you find in this game. It's not even the complexity
Speaker 6: of the play call. It's just a word that sounds
Speaker 6: unfamiliar when you're looking at the call sheet. It made
Speaker 6: sense and then I'm saying it and it's not registering
Speaker 6: what word I'm saying. So that was there was a
Speaker 6: couple of repeats in there yesterday that we were trying
Speaker 6: to make work and it wasn't It wasn't a complex
Speaker 6: play call. It's just the phrasing of how it is.
Speaker 2: And so.
Speaker 6: I was just I'm impressed of how he does handle
Speaker 6: all these long play calls we have, because on third
Speaker 6: down or got two play calls in red zone. It
Speaker 6: was a lot too, and he did a great job
Speaker 6: taking it all in. So now with a full week,
Speaker 6: a full normal week here coming up with an extra
Speaker 6: day on Monday as well, I think it'll be it'll
Speaker 6: be really helpful and it'll really slow down and and uh,
Speaker 6: we can hone in on on what he continues to
Speaker 6: do best and keep featuring that.
Speaker 4: I know he was talking.
Speaker 7: About that sometimes when it broke the huddle that are
Speaker 7: kind of shaking her head because there's I don't know
Speaker 7: if this is was there.
Speaker 2: Was there any one of those plays, said what's going on? Yeah, yep, yeah,
Speaker 2: there is one stick out. Uh, well, the zone read
Speaker 2: number one. I was trying to call time out.
Speaker 6: Because we definitely were not lined up correctly and an
Speaker 6: integral part of the play was not about to occur.
Speaker 6: And next thing you know, we got a first time.
Speaker 6: So I'm just gonna shut up and just keep my
Speaker 6: keep keep standing over there on sidelines. But uh, that
Speaker 6: was one that stood out. Uh, there's a couple of
Speaker 6: quirky formations, and again it's just it's all the phrasing,
Speaker 6: and it's part of me is I'm so used to
Speaker 6: talking to two guys that have been here for so long,
Speaker 6: and so I could say it quickly because they've heard
Speaker 6: it a million times, and so he's hearing some of
Speaker 6: these pairings for the first time with us, and it's
Speaker 6: it's just it's anybody in this room. You can teach
Speaker 6: it to them, and you need to hear it a
Speaker 6: couple of times, especially in a moment like that, for Okay,
Speaker 6: this is what he's trying to say to man. But
Speaker 6: we worked through it and good and it's to forty
Speaker 6: year olds just communicating as best we can with each other.
Speaker 6: And so again it's it, made it work, made it exciting,
Speaker 6: and and we'll just continue to grow from there.
Speaker 5: As I were patient with him through all of that.
Speaker 4: And you only have so many time.
Speaker 2: Outs you've been burned. Yeah, part for you that when you.
Speaker 9: See it lined up wrong to go hard, let's just
Speaker 9: see what happens.
Speaker 6: It is it is and and you're you're trying to
Speaker 6: measure in the moment, what the the is the health
Speaker 6: critical is the time out? And so again it's one
Speaker 6: of those. One of those was the fourth and one
Speaker 6: I called the time out on I wasn't sure we
Speaker 6: were going to operate the way that we were going
Speaker 6: to need to operate. And so of course, how it
Speaker 6: always works out, you're being a time out one second
Speaker 6: lefter we get the first down and then and then you're.
Speaker 2: Like, go great.
Speaker 6: So it's just that's just part of it, part of
Speaker 6: working through it. I'm happy to do it. You know
Speaker 6: when he's playing the way he is. I'm happy to
Speaker 6: to make any adjustments I need to, And he's saying
Speaker 6: he's patient with me. I'm feeling I'm being pattern with him.
Speaker 6: I feel like he's being patient with me too, you know,
Speaker 6: as I'm sometimes hurried in the in the play call,
Speaker 6: trying to get it in and he just needs me
Speaker 6: to relax a little bit. So that's two way street there, all.
Speaker 3: Right, that's uh Zach Taylor and we'll take a break
Speaker 3: and come back and break that down. There's a lot there,
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Speaker 3: telling you what it is a great day in Cincinnati.
Speaker 3: We're on the Bengals Radio Network. We're on top of things. Uh,
Speaker 3: we're knocking off the top of the conference. I mean
Speaker 3: the division last night and and lapped such a big
Speaker 3: win because you talked about it. You now all of
Speaker 3: a sudden take them and say, hey, you had this distance,
Speaker 3: but the gap is closed and they got a tough
Speaker 3: road ahead.
Speaker 5: They do they do and uh, and to beat them
Speaker 5: head up in the division game is big. It's it's
Speaker 5: a it's a massive scenario. They're gonna play them twice. Obviously,
Speaker 5: they got the Steelers coming up pretty quickly in less
Speaker 5: than a month's time in Pittsburgh. So that'll be a battle,
Speaker 5: Royal Man, that'll be a bloodbath. That'll be out for
Speaker 5: some serious revenge there. But I thought two of the
Speaker 5: biggest reasons the Bengals won the football game turnovers. They
Speaker 5: turned Pittsburgh over, and they took care of the football
Speaker 5: Bengals had none.
Speaker 4: You asked Zach three keys to the game?
Speaker 3: Yeah, and he said turnovers, field position, and give the
Speaker 3: offense a couple of short fields.
Speaker 5: Yeah. That and and then down we talked about a
Speaker 5: little bit as well. So, uh, I mean, they they
Speaker 5: basically everything they wanted to try to do to make
Speaker 5: sure that that they had to do to win the
Speaker 5: football game. They they achieved. They got they got done,
Speaker 5: they accomplished it. I mean, uh, that's that's not easy
Speaker 5: to do in any NFL game against any NFL opponent,
Speaker 5: never mind an opponent like the Pittsburgh Steelers, because you know,
Speaker 5: Mike tomlin Man, I mean, he puts a high high
Speaker 5: priority on ball security, and Arthur Smith does as well,
Speaker 5: their offensive coordinator. I mean, they do not give the
Speaker 5: football away that they're you know, it's it's it's foreign
Speaker 5: to them, you know, they they're allergic to it. They
Speaker 5: just they don't let it happen.
Speaker 3: Was that, Well, let me ask you that the first
Speaker 3: interception of Jordan Battle guy. Yeah, was that merely just uh,
Speaker 3: Aaron Rodgers and the guys just not knowing each other
Speaker 3: well enough to understand that Aaron was going to air
Speaker 3: it out and you need to just kind of, you know,
Speaker 3: track that ball right and go get it, because it
Speaker 3: looked like Aaron was just like, oh, I'm going to
Speaker 3: make it a fifty to fifty ball and just throw
Speaker 3: it up and you know, credit Jordan Battle for reading
Speaker 3: what was going on.
Speaker 5: Yeah, And that's that's uncharacteristic. Aaron Rodgers, he usually doesn't
Speaker 5: put the ball even in that kind of jeopardy, you know,
Speaker 5: fifty to fifty. I mean he likes to He likes
Speaker 5: to be able to see it and his mind almost
Speaker 5: see it finish in a completion. You know. Jordan Battle, though,
Speaker 5: made a great play on that football, there's no question.
Speaker 5: And that's what you have to do. I mean, you
Speaker 5: have to raise your level of play. You have to
Speaker 5: you know, make special plays to win against a football team,
Speaker 5: you know, like the Pittsburgh Steelers. Their organization historically, it's
Speaker 5: a winning program. I mean they win a hell of
Speaker 5: a lot more football games than they lose. So you know,
Speaker 5: you can't take anything for granted. You have to play
Speaker 5: every snap to its fullest. You can't self destruct. So
Speaker 5: that's where turnovers came in again. You know, they to
Speaker 5: have no take no giveaways. They ended up getting a
Speaker 5: couple of interceptions off of Aaron Rodgers, but no giveaways
Speaker 5: against that football team in such an important football game.
Speaker 5: And like you said box earlier, to start the segment,
Speaker 5: close the gap, you know, I mean, now they're two
Speaker 5: and on the division, right Pittsburgh has a loss. You know,
Speaker 5: right now, the Bengals have the best division record in
Speaker 5: the AFC North. There's a lot of season to play,
Speaker 5: but not a bad spot.
Speaker 2: To be on.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and we're a third of the way through, so
Speaker 3: while we do have a lot left, a third of
Speaker 3: the way in, so all of a sudden, the third
Speaker 3: of the way becomes halfway and then halfway, Yeah, halfway
Speaker 3: becomes two thirds in and then you know, we were
Speaker 3: talking last year as the Bengals were trying to rally
Speaker 3: to get in the playoffs, the thing we looked at
Speaker 3: that was an iesore for them was the division record. Yep,
Speaker 3: they did not do well in the division on the
Speaker 3: front end. And so right now to be two and
Speaker 3: on the division. As you start to get this thing
Speaker 3: back on track, is a perfect place to be as
Speaker 3: you get in a rhythm, because after last night, I
Speaker 3: think it started in the second half of the Green
Speaker 3: Bay Packer game. What we saw from Joe Flacco and
Speaker 3: Jamar Chase and T Higgins collectively, Yeah, we saw something
Speaker 3: and it looked like it was brewing like a.
Speaker 4: Cup of coffee.
Speaker 3: I mean it just started. The coffee just started dripping, right.
Speaker 3: You knew by the time we get home the pot
Speaker 3: was going to.
Speaker 5: Before Yeah, it was percolating, man. Yeah, and uh yeah,
Speaker 5: I think that what you do as a professional. You
Speaker 5: try to when you finish a football game and an
Speaker 5: uptick on a high note like they did the week before,
Speaker 5: you try to carry it over. And they did. They
Speaker 5: played a very high level on a high high percentage
Speaker 5: of the snaps against a team that many consider to
Speaker 5: be a Super Bowl contender. I don't think they're a
Speaker 5: Super Bowl championship type football team. I'm not even sure
Speaker 5: they're a super Bowl team. But I do think they're
Speaker 5: a playoff team. I mean, Mike Tomlins made the playoffs
Speaker 5: many many years, and a couple of decks gates worth,
Speaker 5: So he knows what it takes. He knows what the
Speaker 5: formula is supposed to supposed to be and what it's
Speaker 5: supposed to look like. So for the Bengals to have
Speaker 5: that better division record right now than the Pittsburgh Steelers
Speaker 5: means something.
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Speaker 4: To who else?
Speaker 3: We love Joe Flacco. Yes, he's come in and brought
Speaker 3: the veteran leadership to wisdom and the Wowy, the wowly
Speaker 3: exteen eyesight to pick up this and that.
Speaker 4: I know what you're doing, right, I've seen it all before.
Speaker 3: I've been around for eighteen to twenty. Right, and thank
Speaker 3: you very much, Duke Toobin.
Speaker 5: I agree, man, uh, Duke Tobin the scouting department. They
Speaker 5: hit a home run, a grand slam. Really, watching Joe
Speaker 5: Flacco throw the football, he still it's just a flick
Speaker 5: of the wrist, man. I mean, he gets so much
Speaker 5: velocity in so many RPMs on the football with such
Speaker 5: little physical stress put on the body. I mean, he
Speaker 5: is a beautiful thrower of the football. It's rare he'll throw.
Speaker 5: He threw that football at the end seventy yards and
Speaker 5: really no wind up. I mean he just kind of
Speaker 5: took it back and let it fly.
Speaker 4: Man. He is.
Speaker 5: He has got a powerful throwing arm. He's got a
Speaker 5: howartzer hanging off that right shoulder.
Speaker 4: Man.
Speaker 5: I mean, he definitely he can can in the football
Speaker 5: anywhere on the football field, to any quadrant of the
Speaker 5: football field. And the big thing that separates him in
Speaker 5: my mind, most power throwers may kind of scatter the
Speaker 5: ball around a little bit. He is like pinpoint. He
Speaker 5: is spot on I mean, he'll hit the right shoulder,
Speaker 5: he'll hit the left hip, he'll hit the you know,
Speaker 5: the the left knee, hit the right knee. He puts
Speaker 5: the ball everywhere and anywhere that needs to be put
Speaker 5: to make a play down the football field. He has
Speaker 5: got a special special talent in that that appendage hanging
Speaker 5: off that shoulder.
Speaker 3: All right, let's go to the press conference from yesterday
Speaker 3: where Joe Flacco talked to the media.
Speaker 15: Man, it's a lot of fun, I'm you know, and
Speaker 15: I mean, obviously it's a lot of fun towards the
Speaker 15: end of the game when when you're getting ready to go.
Speaker 15: But yeah, this is what we do it for, is
Speaker 15: is games like that. It came down to the wire,
Speaker 15: just like we we know it's going to and really
Speaker 15: really happy about how the guys just kind of stayed
Speaker 15: with it for full sixty minutes. And man, our offensive
Speaker 15: line was going today. You know, we're running the football, protecting, uh,
Speaker 15: you know, doing a lot of things that we wanted
Speaker 15: to do.
Speaker 9: Joe, when they score there, take the lead and even
Speaker 9: through a lot of the situations two minutes plus, what
Speaker 9: goes to.
Speaker 15: Your mind, Yeah, listen, you gotta you gotta this is
Speaker 15: such an emotional game. But like sometimes, especially as a quarterback,
Speaker 15: you gotta take the emotions and and the want to
Speaker 15: of like looking ahead at the results. You got to
Speaker 15: just take that out of play and just go play football.
Speaker 15: And you know, hey, we.
Speaker 2: Got Jamar on an out route. Oh they're off of them.
Speaker 2: Just throw it. Just simple, the simple things.
Speaker 15: It just goes back to the basics and not worrying
Speaker 15: about the result in the moment, just playing the play
Speaker 15: and getting our guys in position to go win it.
Speaker 15: It was a lot of fun, but there's like, you know,
Speaker 15: you're still there's your mind's not necessarily thinking that way
Speaker 15: for the full sixty minutes, but obviously the last seven seconds,
Speaker 15: you know, or but even that there's three seconds they
Speaker 15: got to hal Marry off. You're still you know, you've
Speaker 15: been through I've been through enough of these too to
Speaker 15: wait until that clockhead zero to be excited. So but
Speaker 15: like it it, Listen, I love doing this. I've been
Speaker 15: doing it such for such a long time. When you're
Speaker 15: out there with the guys and you're and you're doing
Speaker 15: what you want to do and you're having success, and
Speaker 15: you can look at each other's eyes and just like
Speaker 15: you get that feeling you know, of you know, bonding
Speaker 15: with somebody else and just it's a lot of fun
Speaker 15: and it's a lot more fun when that clockheads zero
Speaker 15: and you've gotten the job done.
Speaker 16: Got here.
Speaker 12: Obviously, you probably knew how good Martie because we're from
Speaker 12: in Cleveland and being a fan of the game, But
Speaker 12: there's a game like tonight when you see what mart
Speaker 12: did and then what Tea was able to do.
Speaker 4: Did that?
Speaker 14: Did that just open your eyes?
Speaker 12: Like these guys are even better than I thought.
Speaker 15: Yeah, last week it opened my eyes just just with
Speaker 15: the simple things, not not the fact that they went
Speaker 15: three hundred yards obviously, but you could see it. And
Speaker 15: then today what I got to see was just how
Speaker 15: a defense has to treat those guys and if you
Speaker 15: don't treat them a certain way, they can hurt you.
Speaker 15: And if you do treat them a certain way, well
Speaker 15: maybe we have some other guys that can.
Speaker 2: Get the job done.
Speaker 15: So you today, I think I got to see just
Speaker 15: the problems they create in general. Last week I said
Speaker 15: it earlier this week. Last week we didn't do anything crazy,
Speaker 15: but you could see those guys are different and it's
Speaker 15: pretty cool to be got a throw I mean to
Speaker 15: you tell me, I don't think so.
Speaker 2: I don't think so.
Speaker 15: Well, we threw the ball forty seven times or probably
Speaker 15: dropped back a couple more, and I mean I think
Speaker 15: he ended up. I mean, look, at the end of
Speaker 15: the first half, we just outrought out right, you know,
Speaker 15: like it was. I don't think it was anything crazy,
Speaker 15: pretty simple stuff underneath, getting them one on one until
Speaker 15: we drew it up and it worked out.
Speaker 2: Did you.
Speaker 8: Like that?
Speaker 15: Yeah, well that really was kind of more of a
Speaker 15: broken play. We just didn't line upright and it wasn't
Speaker 15: really a true read option.
Speaker 2: But I did. I did.
Speaker 15: I've done a few of those early, probably my first
Speaker 15: three years. I did a few of those, like in
Speaker 15: certain situations. But it's been a while and it kind
Speaker 15: of just happened. It just happened. So I was like,
Speaker 15: all right, now, how can I find somewhere to get
Speaker 15: down and you know, not get taken out by one
Speaker 15: of these guys a little bit?
Speaker 7: Yeah, kind of like your first question, that's right in
Speaker 7: your nine or ten days here, when did you realize
Speaker 7: that you could have this successful of an offensive game
Speaker 7: like this quickly?
Speaker 15: You're not thinking about it in that sense. I mean
Speaker 15: I think you're always like wanting to go do that.
Speaker 15: But I think what being here in this situation has
Speaker 15: done for me is it allows you to recalibrate and
Speaker 15: not worry about those things. It allows you to just
Speaker 15: focus on the basics, and it's a good reminder that
Speaker 15: that doing that is what leads to success and consistency.
Speaker 15: So I think the bigger thing going forward is just
Speaker 15: continuing to remind myself of that.
Speaker 7: Zach said you had some issues with maybe his accent
Speaker 7: when he was trying to Yeah, it's.
Speaker 2: Just like some of these words are.
Speaker 15: So new to me, and when you don't get a
Speaker 15: shit like I honestly felt like this week was probably
Speaker 15: a little bit harder than last week, just because it's
Speaker 15: such a short week. You're still putting in a full
Speaker 15: game plan. You don't get to hear the play as much.
Speaker 15: So there were certain things like and I could picture everything,
Speaker 15: but there's certain things with the formations and things like
Speaker 15: that that you're hearing for the first couple of times,
Speaker 15: and even though you've read the play a million times,
Speaker 15: like when you hear it, it just wasn't hitting my
Speaker 15: brain right. So there was a few of those and
Speaker 15: we were joking on the sideline like any time that happened,
Speaker 15: and we broke the play and we broke the huddle,
Speaker 15: and it was like, I don't know if we're right here.
Speaker 2: I mean that play hit so like we got lucky
Speaker 2: tonight in that sense. What did you see that they played.
Speaker 4: Going on one?
Speaker 15: The safety didn't really Maybe he was cheating his way
Speaker 15: a little bit, but not really, And I knew I
Speaker 15: had a conversion to him, and it was a chance
Speaker 15: to basically end the game. Uh they I felt like
Speaker 15: they were kind of playing butt back shoulders. So the
Speaker 15: one adjustment I made there was maybe just throw it
Speaker 15: up a little bit more and let him kind of
Speaker 15: bend into it if he gets by them. And I
Speaker 15: think he got a good release, so I could I
Speaker 15: could kind of see that throw happening, you know, as
Speaker 15: I was doing it.
Speaker 2: So you can't work here for that bulk of the
Speaker 2: four game losing streak.
Speaker 9: You sense what this win meant the teammates had gone
Speaker 9: through that.
Speaker 15: Oh for sure, that was an awesome sideline, an awesome
Speaker 15: locker room after the game. But at the same time,
Speaker 15: you got to get those guys with a lot of credit,
Speaker 15: Like it's not easy to lose four straight games and
Speaker 15: keep your head into it. So the fact that they've
Speaker 15: been able to do this and get to the point
Speaker 15: where we got tonight and beat a good football team
Speaker 15: is also impressive.
Speaker 5: Along those lines.
Speaker 7: Show it's one win, but given the fact that he
Speaker 7: against that defense in this environment, potential what this team.
Speaker 2: Especially off that, Yeah, you sure hope.
Speaker 15: So I hope you can come in here and play
Speaker 15: well and and you always want to, like, especially when
Speaker 15: when you get guys that are good at playing football,
Speaker 15: you want to go show them like, hey, man, like
Speaker 15: we're gonna be able to do some good things, and
Speaker 15: you hope that they feel that way. But now to
Speaker 15: go out there and have done it for like the
Speaker 15: last six quarters, I think it's going to give us
Speaker 15: a lot of confidence and hopefully we can carry that
Speaker 15: over and use it to our advantage.
Speaker 11: Even though you've only been here for short it's giving
Speaker 11: you so much trust and big situations that you're more
Speaker 11: a team.
Speaker 5: Oh.
Speaker 15: I think I told you early on when I got here.
Speaker 15: If you can't throw the guys, if you can't get
Speaker 15: on the same page with those kind of guys, then you.
Speaker 16: Know what are you doing?
Speaker 2: Uh?
Speaker 15: They're pretty special. So they're you know, you can you
Speaker 15: can kind of read their body language and they get open,
Speaker 15: so it's easier to throat to the.
Speaker 12: Time you spent with you last week, as you know,
Speaker 12: anything that you could share that's maybe really helped simplify
Speaker 12: things for you so quickly. Or what is your impression
Speaker 12: of Zach in the way he's worked with you to
Speaker 12: get you up?
Speaker 15: I think the biggest thing is he's been patient, you know,
Speaker 15: so even like things like tonight where maybe I wasn't
Speaker 15: hearing it right and it wasn't calling it completely right
Speaker 15: for a handful of plays, it wasn't like he was
Speaker 15: getting bothered by it. He worked with me and he
Speaker 15: was patient with me, and he allowed me to just
Speaker 15: go play football. And I think he saw that even
Speaker 15: though maybe this one little thing was off, that I
Speaker 15: was able to just forget about it once the ball
Speaker 15: is that. So I would say just that like patience,
Speaker 15: and you know, you know, coaches that have done it
Speaker 15: like he has called really good games and put great
Speaker 15: game plans together, they want to put all kinds of
Speaker 15: good stuff in there. And I think he's tried to
Speaker 15: fight that urge a little bit and then been patient
Speaker 15: with me.
Speaker 3: You know that lap I was thinking about something you've
Speaker 3: said year in year out, that was he kind.
Speaker 4: Of lived out last night.
Speaker 3: Make the simple look complex, Make the complex look simple, right,
Speaker 3: And Joe Flackwell said, Hey, it's football. You know the
Speaker 3: guy runs her out, You get into the ball, you
Speaker 3: get to know the guy. And it's like sometime we
Speaker 3: can get so complex and get too deep into weez
Speaker 3: that we fit is football.
Speaker 4: And he realizes that I got two guys.
Speaker 5: Out here at a special absolutely and get them the
Speaker 5: rock and they it'll pay dividends, They'll make plays for you,
Speaker 5: They'll they'll they'll make you appreciate and be proud of
Speaker 5: the fact that you get them the football. There's no
Speaker 5: doubt about it. I think Zach talked about a little bit.
Speaker 5: You just kind of referenced it a little bit too.
Speaker 5: Is the game plan had some sophistication and complexity to it,
Speaker 5: but it was still really simple. It was like keep
Speaker 5: it simple, stupid, you know, the running game, the passing
Speaker 5: concepts were not, you know, overly sophisticated. I mean it
Speaker 5: was it was a game plan that you know, anybody
Speaker 5: can could really understand and go out and potentially execute
Speaker 5: a guy like Joe Flacco, who's been around the league
Speaker 5: as long as he has and has seen as many
Speaker 5: football snaps and plays execute, and that he's executed himself
Speaker 5: over the years. I mean, I thought it was brilliant,
Speaker 5: brilliant game plan put together out of the playbook, you know,
Speaker 5: pulling things out that they thought would fit Joe Flacco's
Speaker 5: skill set. I mean, twelve live snaps in practice. I mean,
Speaker 5: that's unbelievable. Twelve lives. I don't care if you're one
Speaker 5: hundred year veteran. That's hard to do. It's hard to
Speaker 5: go out there against a defense that's you know, got
Speaker 5: football players that can move, are very athletic, can run,
Speaker 5: can figure things out. I mean that that the odds
Speaker 5: of getting done of what got done and accomplished last
Speaker 5: night are unbelievably high. And the Bengals did. They got
Speaker 5: it done.
Speaker 4: They got it done. Indeed, we'll get it done on
Speaker 4: the other side. We'll take a break here.
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Speaker 3: Coach of the Week and Lapp, I saw something last
Speaker 3: night and I'm gonna frame this up and get your
Speaker 3: thoughts on it. When I saw Joe Burrow on the sideline,
Speaker 3: you know, standing sideline whatever, it took me back to
Speaker 3: a conversation I heard with Salmon will Cox and Ryan.
Speaker 3: Ryan leaped and he said, I remember Joe Burrow. They
Speaker 3: asked me to come and talk to quarterbacks. He thought, hey,
Speaker 3: why do you want.
Speaker 4: To talk to me?
Speaker 3: I didn't do well and Ryan Leif said there was
Speaker 3: one guy taking notes the.
Speaker 4: Whole time that I was taught. It was Joe Burrow.
Speaker 3: And I said to myself when I saw Joel Burrow
Speaker 3: out there last night, I said, you're not going to
Speaker 3: convince me that Joe Burrow was, you know, there for
Speaker 3: his team, but he recognizes betteran like Joe Flacco.
Speaker 4: I can learn some things by watching this guy. Am
Speaker 4: I far offer.
Speaker 5: To No, No, I don't think you are at all.
Speaker 5: I mean I think I think Joe Burrow is, you know,
Speaker 5: not one of these guys that is so impressed for
Speaker 5: himself that you know, he thinks he's up at up
Speaker 5: at one level and really he's not, you know, in
Speaker 5: his mind, he's like, I'm just another guy.
Speaker 16: Uh.
Speaker 5: Now I can play the quarterback position. I can play
Speaker 5: it pretty well, but I don't look at myself as
Speaker 5: this football savant that you know is uh is beyond
Speaker 5: being approached by people and and uh And he's like,
Speaker 5: you know, you can learn from anybody. There's Joe Flacco
Speaker 5: has been around the league almost two decades. I can
Speaker 5: learn something from this guy. I mean, he's been he's
Speaker 5: been places where he's had to learn a and go
Speaker 5: to another one unlearned and relearn, go to another one
Speaker 5: unlearned and relearn. So on and so forth to mean,
Speaker 5: that's not easy, No, that's uneasy cast and you know
Speaker 5: tips on how he does it, on how he learns
Speaker 5: as quickly as he does, because both of these guys
Speaker 5: are a mensa you know, IQ football IQ people, and
Speaker 5: you can always learn. The day that you feel like
Speaker 5: you can't learn anything more, you should get out of
Speaker 5: the game.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it should.
Speaker 5: It's over it.
Speaker 3: And I think Joe Flackele still has that. I can
Speaker 3: still learn things. But I think one of the things
Speaker 3: that I like, I've always liked about Joe Burrow was
Speaker 3: his love and respect for the game of football, absolutely
Speaker 3: and being out there last night and I saw him
Speaker 3: and in my mind, he's such a like you said,
Speaker 3: of mencing so far ahead of everybody else. Everybody's caught
Speaker 3: up in the game last night, and I just felt
Speaker 3: like he was probably older that just I'm doing them
Speaker 3: in watching two guys and Rogers and Joe Flackell, because
Speaker 3: both of these guys can spin a football man, and
Speaker 3: I mean they could make deep throw look like little
Speaker 3: five yard passes. They're so beautiful when they're doing it.
Speaker 3: And I've thought about, like you said, when you you
Speaker 3: were a aligneman, you know, you come in, the guy
Speaker 3: teaches you, and you the ropes and the guy comes
Speaker 3: behind you and you're like, hey, let me show you
Speaker 3: what you need to do to be successful in this league.
Speaker 4: And that's that's what makes the NFL so special.
Speaker 5: Absolutely, it's a big fraternity. It's a pass it down,
Speaker 5: you know type deal. Anything that you can do to
Speaker 5: help the next generation of football players to make the
Speaker 5: National Football League better and improve the product for the
Speaker 5: consumption of the general public, man, you're going to do it,
Speaker 5: you know. I will say that that Joe Burrow and
Speaker 5: Joe Flackel are definitely cut from the same cloth. I
Speaker 5: mean they have they have more similarities than differences in
Speaker 5: their overall personality, the type of person that they are,
Speaker 5: the way they commuter, communicate with others.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 5: And then from a football standpoint, it's even fewer differences
Speaker 5: and more similarities. They they're they're cut from the same cloth.
Speaker 5: There's no question about it. They see the game of
Speaker 5: football through the same set of eyes. The same things
Speaker 5: are important for victory, keys to getting things done. That
Speaker 5: that doesn't differentiate much between these two guys. So, uh,
Speaker 5: you know, again, I thought two things that that that
Speaker 5: the Bengals were able to do to support Joe Flacco,
Speaker 5: and what they do to support Joe Burrow when they
Speaker 5: win football games is run the football efficiently and don't
Speaker 5: give the football away. You know, win the turnover battle.
Speaker 5: Go plus one plus two plus three, and you're gonna
Speaker 5: be in high cotton.
Speaker 4: No question about it. We'll take a break and come
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Speaker 3: But again, Dave Lapham, you know one of the other
Speaker 3: things I liked about last night, and people get tired
Speaker 3: of you guys talking about it, but it is the
Speaker 3: culture of the NFL. You have to run the football.
Speaker 3: It sets up everything else. It buys you. Play action
Speaker 3: can buy you a split second four linebacker, the respect,
Speaker 3: the fact you may run, create space on the backside
Speaker 3: of that level and maybe get some opportunities there that
Speaker 3: wouldn't be there. Or in this game, a half a
Speaker 3: second or a split second is everything it is.
Speaker 5: And if you can run the football and then have
Speaker 5: a play action game, play action passing game off of
Speaker 5: that exact running play, the players that you're running the
Speaker 5: football at the opposing defense, and then you put the
Speaker 5: ball in the back's belly and pull it out of
Speaker 5: there and run routes, and you're gonna find yourself in
Speaker 5: a high cott and you're gonna find yourself making making
Speaker 5: some yards and scoring points. There's no question about it.
Speaker 5: So it's imperative. Me got to run the football. And
Speaker 5: then you know, in order to Aaron Rodgers is the
Speaker 5: master of play action passing as well, and in order
Speaker 5: to limit that effectiveness, you got to you gotta handle
Speaker 5: the running game. And I thought the Bengals, for the
Speaker 5: most part, did a decent job handling the running game
Speaker 5: of the Pittsburgh Steelers. I mean, the Bengals put thirty
Speaker 5: three points up on the board, but they had a
Speaker 5: quarterback through for Amal Street in fifty yards, had a
Speaker 5: running back go for a buck fifty, the other running
Speaker 5: back go for ninety. Jamar Chase went for almost a
Speaker 5: buck fifty. T Higgins goes for ninety. I mean they
Speaker 5: had weapons everywhere. Why because they ran the football and
Speaker 5: then they could play action pass off of that. And
Speaker 5: everybody ate, man and everybody ate heartily, everybody hardly.
Speaker 3: In the first quarter, you look at that rushing yards
Speaker 3: in the first quarter, forty four for the Steelers, third
Speaker 3: fourteen for the Bengals. Thus steals up seven to nothing. Yep,
Speaker 3: second quarter rush yards Bengals eighty three to twenty one,
Speaker 3: and all of a sudden, now it's a seventeen point game.
Speaker 3: Seventeen to three. And you look at that and say,
Speaker 3: what happened? Eighty three yards on the ground means you
Speaker 3: were really moving the chains and creating opportunities.
Speaker 5: Yeah, And the Bengals got to give them credit. They
Speaker 5: fell behind ten to nothing in this football game. First
Speaker 5: two drives, Pittsburgh had the football. They put ten points
Speaker 5: in the board, and the Bengals at that point were
Speaker 5: kind of stammering and stuttering a little bit, and they
Speaker 5: we weren't getting much done in that first quarter, like
Speaker 5: the numbers that you were you were just talking about there.
Speaker 5: But no quit, absolutely no quit. Didn't spit the bit,
Speaker 5: didn't you know, say, nobody came to the sideline frustrated,
Speaker 5: you know, disappointed, pointing fingers at teammates. None of that stuff.
Speaker 5: There's no finger pointing this This football team is made
Speaker 5: of the right stuff. They've got the right kind of
Speaker 5: people that are you gonna say, you know what, We're
Speaker 5: gonna play every snap in the football game. We're not
Speaker 5: gonna quit in any single one of them, and hopefully
Speaker 5: we'll have more productive snaps than non productive and.
Speaker 2: We're gonna win.
Speaker 5: We're gonna win a lot of football games. That's what
Speaker 5: it's all. About no question.
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Speaker 8: Then's how cool is it to see Joe Flacco as
Speaker 8: a bangle and obviously winning for you guys?
Speaker 17: Now, Uh, it's honestly good having him here for us,
Speaker 17: you know what I'm saying. Organization made a big jump
Speaker 17: on him. We believed that we got him. So he
Speaker 17: came in doing this thing and showing off for us.
Speaker 11: What did it be for him to go right back
Speaker 11: to you play that was really I didn't complete on
Speaker 11: the sideline then obviously the touchdown right away, just going.
Speaker 17: Right back to well, we already had the next play
Speaker 17: in already and they said I was, They said it
Speaker 17: was incomplete, and we was already in the middle of
Speaker 17: calling another play, and then you know, we just called
Speaker 17: it again.
Speaker 2: It's obvious to go on too time and time again
Speaker 2: and clutch situations.
Speaker 5: But tonight twenty three targets at whatever, sixteen catches and
Speaker 5: team record, did tonight feel different?
Speaker 2: Special? Anyway?
Speaker 17: I didn't even know I had sixteen targets, if I'm
Speaker 17: being honest, I you know, I thought I had like nine.
Speaker 2: If I'm being honest, and you feel like that many, why,
Speaker 2: I don't know. I'm not sure.
Speaker 12: Are you surprised at all? Be the way Pittsburgh's played
Speaker 12: them so many times and we've seen you do this fall.
Speaker 12: We want to Pittsburgh anything.
Speaker 17: Got a lot of many double on third down for real,
Speaker 17: try to mix it up a little bit. But now
Speaker 17: they they they did exactly what we was expecting and
Speaker 17: hoping they do.
Speaker 2: A lot of times.
Speaker 7: Three point Sharpshooters in basketball talk about when they have
Speaker 7: like a heater that they're on the zone. Is that
Speaker 7: What does it feel like when you're catching so many
Speaker 7: balls like you did today?
Speaker 17: I really can't tell you, bro, I'm just really in
Speaker 17: the moment It's like in the moment going on and
Speaker 17: you're a drilling and pumper, you need to tire, you
Speaker 17: want the ball or you want to get out.
Speaker 5: Two days ago.
Speaker 4: Getting wins.
Speaker 2: We just feel like this is what I was talking about. Man.
Speaker 17: We know were close last week. We we felt like
Speaker 17: we just figured it out about how we're gonna go
Speaker 17: about the uh black o and just the offense period.
Speaker 17: I think today showed what we really capable of and
Speaker 17: you know, show how prolific at this office really could be.
Speaker 6: After the touch of you have a touchdown move against
Speaker 6: you who you come right back on?
Speaker 12: Uh?
Speaker 16: Uh?
Speaker 2: What was more for your mind at that point when.
Speaker 5: You did you think you have first question?
Speaker 2: I mean.
Speaker 17: I I knew I had it, but I didn't think
Speaker 17: I had it all the way because when I felt
Speaker 17: it got stuck to my hip. But you know NFL,
Speaker 17: every camera angle is every camera angle, they got everything.
Speaker 2: So but uh on the touchdown. Yeah, for the next play,
Speaker 2: it was a little fade ball.
Speaker 17: He was very handsy at the top, try to get
Speaker 17: his hands off me last minute and that's when the
Speaker 17: balls in the air.
Speaker 11: The first big game that you and both had this
Speaker 11: season is this kind of what y'all thought might happen
Speaker 11: when y'all decided to resign her.
Speaker 2: This this was supposed to happen exactly.
Speaker 11: Yeah, I mean, how how good does it feel to
Speaker 11: finally have that conter, you know, just seven weeks in,
Speaker 11: but to finally kind of have that feeling?
Speaker 4: What's that like?
Speaker 17: Especially in the game like this, It feels good knowing
Speaker 17: this is exactly what we preach about all the time.
Speaker 17: This is the reason why DB's team go grab DB's
Speaker 17: and stop us. You know what I'm saying, And this
Speaker 17: is this is all we breathe, you know, as a receiver, Cord,
Speaker 17: and today was.
Speaker 15: The day that's you instead of t catching that de
Speaker 15: bo o inside of the taip.
Speaker 2: How hard would have been a slide down? I would slid.
Speaker 2: I would have slid hard to do that?
Speaker 17: No, if you want if you I mean, if you
Speaker 17: want to win, you're gonna slide.
Speaker 2: If you want to win, you're gonna slide. Is that
Speaker 2: going back to what you just said?
Speaker 4: Is that extra vindication?
Speaker 11: Steelers of retooled that DV room from last year this
Speaker 11: year brought up some beds and how much how vindicating
Speaker 11: is that that y'all were able to go out and
Speaker 11: win and the man y'all did.
Speaker 17: I mean, yeah, that's that's exactly what they were trying
Speaker 17: to do for us. But at the end of the day,
Speaker 17: you still gotta stop everybody we got chasing the backfield.
Speaker 17: We had a great running game today. Old Lion did
Speaker 17: great in protection. Fla was doing a great jobs just
Speaker 17: getting the balls out when he had pressure. So, I
Speaker 17: mean today was just an overall all around offensive Union games.
Speaker 17: Part of that game it felt good, but it was
Speaker 17: a little nervous. Nervous at the end, not gonna say nervous,
Speaker 17: but nerve racking.
Speaker 2: At the end. No one is getting down.
Speaker 17: It's two minutes under and you got a ride that
Speaker 17: those hell nervers for a living, and you know it's
Speaker 17: always ended up a touchdown, so it gets a little nervous.
Speaker 7: I think they leave the entire second half, they take
Speaker 7: the lead, what do you.
Speaker 17: Think, Um, that's what they pays the money for. At
Speaker 17: the end of the day, we got to make a
Speaker 17: play and make a play for the team, you know,
Speaker 17: and they that's that's why they got us.
Speaker 11: After last week y'all lost four straight. Tack said, you
Speaker 11: felt like yall were closed. There was a hart of positivity.
Speaker 11: How much is that message kind of resonate over the
Speaker 11: course of the week, but things have gotten tough over
Speaker 11: the years that Jack says it, and I mean, does
Speaker 11: how much does that matter to y'all?
Speaker 4: Y'all get through games through a week?
Speaker 2: I should say yeah.
Speaker 17: I mean, it means a lot just just from coming
Speaker 17: from him, but it also comes from the players too,
Speaker 17: not just exact at the end of the day, the
Speaker 17: players know what it takes.
Speaker 2: We got guys there and there.
Speaker 17: They are vocal that are being leaders. They always speak
Speaker 17: up when we have situations like this.
Speaker 6: Ow cool was it to see Joe Burrow on the
Speaker 6: sideline as well? Just a little energy shit.
Speaker 17: I didn't even know he was coming to the game
Speaker 17: and from being honest, and at the end of the game,
Speaker 17: I told him, I said, I know you miss it, brother,
Speaker 17: and we missed. I mean, I know he's out there
Speaker 17: and want to be out there. But it's good seeing
Speaker 17: him again.
Speaker 4: Two of them.
Speaker 2: Now, you don't know how big you that. Uh, it's
Speaker 2: it's good, you know.
Speaker 17: I mean that that means we're taking the right step
Speaker 17: forward and you know, you know right and we're on
Speaker 17: the right path.
Speaker 4: Been here for nine days.
Speaker 11: How have you felt such good chemistry with them so
Speaker 11: far after you were sick last week and then you
Speaker 11: had a short week this week?
Speaker 2: Uh, I'm I that's a great question.
Speaker 17: I I I don't know, man, Uh were not really
Speaker 17: throwing a ball to each other I practice either, cause
Speaker 17: it's like this week was fast walked through reps. Last
Speaker 17: week was a little off for me. So honestly, it
Speaker 17: just just coming in being a veteran, just knowing the
Speaker 17: coverages and knowing what what's his answer?
Speaker 2: I think that's that's his best reason.
Speaker 7: Did you think this kind of offensive success was possible
Speaker 7: this quickly since you guys got flocked out?
Speaker 17: I I think we knew it last week. We seen
Speaker 17: the opportunities last week, you.
Speaker 2: Should they didn't pretty much? Uh come to Yeah.
Speaker 17: Man, you know they was gonna put Joey on tea
Speaker 17: and put jailing on me, and we knew that he
Speaker 17: was ready for it.
Speaker 2: We was gonna take advantage of those opportunity.
Speaker 7: One of the Chase Brown's long runs, you ran, sprinted
Speaker 7: down the field and made a big block.
Speaker 2: All star receivers want to do that. Why did you?
Speaker 2: I got to give effort?
Speaker 17: I told Chase I gotta give him more effort on
Speaker 17: my run blocks, just because I know some of the
Speaker 17: times I don't, I don't I don't expect him to
Speaker 17: cut back to my side, and he does it the
Speaker 17: majority of the time, so I gotta give him eff more.
Speaker 2: I think this could be read.
Speaker 4: So I get a right through ninth game with one hundred.
Speaker 11: And fifty receiving yards, you passed Jerry Rice for the most
Speaker 11: in the first five seasons. What's it like to kind
Speaker 11: of here you kind of in that conversation and pastor
Speaker 11: Gully Jerry.
Speaker 2: It's cool. I don't even really know what I don't.
Speaker 17: I would never know what that is until y'all tell
Speaker 17: me at the end of the day, you know. So
Speaker 17: it's cool opportunity hearing it, man. But I still got
Speaker 17: a long way to go, and that's to go to
Speaker 17: get a Super Bowl and then go jacket.
Speaker 11: Cherry's got a ton of records. Is that growing up
Speaker 11: something that you've thought about? And the kind of the
Speaker 11: numbers and his career how much?
Speaker 7: No, if I'm being no, Yeah, second game with at
Speaker 7: least fourteen catches this year?
Speaker 16: Did it?
Speaker 2: And you said he felt like he had only l
Speaker 2: eight or nine. Did it feel different? Maybe compared to
Speaker 2: that Jacksonville game you have fourteen. No, not really, you
Speaker 2: know that.
Speaker 16: I know.
Speaker 17: The only game that I felt like I had a
Speaker 17: lot of passes the Cardinals game on the Asy game.
Speaker 2: But that game and this game didn't really feel like
Speaker 2: I had a lot.
Speaker 3: All right, that's de mar Chase and I was just
Speaker 3: looking at his target forty five over three weeks and
Speaker 3: rightfully so. If there's a guy that probably would never
Speaker 3: get tired of running routes and you're throwing the ball
Speaker 3: to him, is to mar Chase.
Speaker 4: But I will say this, and I have to say this, I.
Speaker 3: Love the humility and the recognition of being the number
Speaker 3: two guy that T Higgins is. He could power, he
Speaker 3: could complain, he could say whatever. He understands. His role
Speaker 3: is just.
Speaker 4: As important, and it's just important in a different way.
Speaker 5: Absolutely. I mean, those two guys have a very unique relationship.
Speaker 5: There's no doubt about it. T. Higgins is an important
Speaker 5: player on this football team. In my mind, Chase and
Speaker 5: Higgins is the best combination, best one two punch at
Speaker 5: the receiver position in the entire National Football League. They
Speaker 5: feed off each other, they have great respect for each
Speaker 5: other's game. They're glad they're teammates. And the one thing
Speaker 5: two things about Jamar Chase in that interview, a postgame interview,
Speaker 5: willingness to block. Superstar receivers are allergic to block. It's
Speaker 5: a foreign concept. They don't want any part of it.
Speaker 5: They want to stay as far away from it as
Speaker 5: they can. Jamar Chase goes out there and sticks his
Speaker 5: nose right in there, right in the middle of the action. Man,
Speaker 5: I mean he is. He'll motion from outside the inside
Speaker 5: and block, you know, in the box where a lot
Speaker 5: of traffic is a lot of a lot of fierce
Speaker 5: hitting goes on in there. He wants to be part
Speaker 5: of it. And the other thing when he slid to
Speaker 5: take the you know at the end of the football
Speaker 5: game after a twenty five yard catch, you know, run
Speaker 5: and catch, catch and run, he slides. Okay, Well, is
Speaker 5: that that that big a deal? Yeah? And he could
Speaker 5: have scored Okay, last year Triple Crown winner catches yards touchdown. Yeah,
Speaker 5: you don't think the guy is interested in scoring touchdowns?
Speaker 5: Hell yeah, he is. That's one of his primary roles
Speaker 5: as a great receiver on the football team. But the
Speaker 5: coaches when they sent the player and it's like if
Speaker 5: you make the play and catch the football, get on
Speaker 5: the ground, and uh, we'll win the football game. And
Speaker 5: when asked, now, why did you go to the ground
Speaker 5: like that? To win the game? That's the object of
Speaker 5: the plan, win the game.
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's some guys out there, there's stats stataholics, absolutely,
Speaker 3: and all they want.
Speaker 4: To do is pad those numbers.
Speaker 3: This is how you win the big one when everybody
Speaker 3: is selfless and team is bigger than individual. We'll take
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Speaker 4: To my left here, he just picked off one of
Speaker 4: my pieces of chick great pig, Mike. That was just
Speaker 4: like he did. DK Metcalf LT. Now know how DK
Speaker 4: Metcalf feels after being with Mike.
Speaker 5: He was so good.
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Speaker 3: One of the other things I thought last night was
Speaker 3: so good was I love when guys who aren't playing
Speaker 3: all out, all in on the sideline into the game.
Speaker 3: And I'm not saying this in a demeaning way, but cheerleaders, Yeah,
Speaker 3: I mean they're like, hey, man, I want us to
Speaker 3: win and beat these Steelers and get back in this game.
Speaker 3: And the enthusiasm that the guys have on this team.
Speaker 3: It's been this way since Zach has been here. There's
Speaker 3: this mutual admiration society that exists on this team.
Speaker 5: I agree with you. I mean it's a brotherhood, man,
Speaker 5: you know, a big fraternity. And I thought Logan Wilson
Speaker 5: is a good example of what you're talking about. I mean,
Speaker 5: Logan Wilson didn't get many snaps in last night's football game,
Speaker 5: but when he did get in the in the game
Speaker 5: and Al Golden ran two different schemes. He ran a
Speaker 5: five to two defense and Logan Wilson wasn't part of
Speaker 5: the four to three defense. Logan Wilson was a big
Speaker 5: part of it, and he mixed and matched. You know
Speaker 5: that those two defensive configurations into what Pittsburgh was doing
Speaker 5: offensively in terms of four mation's motion play selection, that
Speaker 5: sort of thing. So Logan Wilson, when he was out
Speaker 5: of the football game on the sideline, he was the
Speaker 5: first one to greet any defensive football team coming off
Speaker 5: the field. You know, he was right at al Golden
Speaker 5: shoulder listening, you know, maybe who knows, maybe making a
Speaker 5: comment or two of things that he observed. So, I mean,
Speaker 5: Logan Wilson, it's been a Bengal for a while, and
Speaker 5: I'm sure it hurt, you know that his role changed,
Speaker 5: But he's all in. He's still a Cincinnati Bengal. He
Speaker 5: wants to win football games. He wants his teammates to
Speaker 5: do well. He wants the city to finally celebrate a
Speaker 5: Super Bowl championship, if not that, at least inn AFC
Speaker 5: championship on his watch while he's playing for the Cincinnati Bengals.
Speaker 5: So here we go, Here.
Speaker 3: We go, and I have to remind people, you know
Speaker 3: that this is a super Bowl caliber team, but it
Speaker 3: is not the Super Bowl team right, only about nine
Speaker 3: guys remaining from that team. But this team has a
Speaker 3: talent at every position. And let's stop for a second,
Speaker 3: and give kudos to that offensive line because whether it
Speaker 3: was ron blocking or pass blocking, the offensive line last
Speaker 3: night and they went up against a formidable defense, and
Speaker 3: that offensive line had held their own all night long.
Speaker 5: And and Joe Flacco one of the first things he
Speaker 5: did well. The offensive line had a heck of a game.
Speaker 5: They were they were getting it done. They were operating
Speaker 5: at a very high level. And in this football game.
Speaker 5: Kudos to Joe Flacco to give credit to his offensive
Speaker 5: line in such a meaningful way. You know, in the
Speaker 5: postgame pressure and I've talked to some of the offensive line,
Speaker 5: they already loved Joe Flacco. Man Flacco gets it. He understands,
Speaker 5: you know, things that that offensive line. He dangles to carrot,
Speaker 5: you know, he he he throws it out there. He
Speaker 5: throws compliments out there, and you know they they respond.
Speaker 5: I mean, there's not it's a it's a very unsung
Speaker 5: thing to do playing the offensive line. You never touched
Speaker 5: the football, you know, you don't have any stats other
Speaker 5: than fumble recoveries. Maybe you recover one he first touchdown
Speaker 5: and have a career touchdowns scored. But I mean that, uh,
Speaker 5: that is a very thankless position. It can be a
Speaker 5: lonely position if you make a mistake and uh, you know,
Speaker 5: you get called out about it. So Joe flacko understands
Speaker 5: he needs an offensive line in front of him. He
Speaker 5: ain't no dummy. He's been around the NFL and succeeded
Speaker 5: at a high level for many reasons, and one of
Speaker 5: them is he's a hell of a good teammate, loyal
Speaker 5: to his teammates, and he's got football like you.
Speaker 3: Very approachable, very professional, very classy. I was leaving last night.
Speaker 3: Obviously we're we're there late, long after the game is over. Sure,
Speaker 3: he was properly out there with the Prime crew. But
Speaker 3: I turned a corner and here comes six five Joe
Speaker 3: flack on five to five Wayne box Miller, and uh,
Speaker 3: you know, I did what any short now would do,
Speaker 3: I guess in his way. Uh but but I you know,
Speaker 3: and I stopped and I said, you know, had introduced myself.
Speaker 4: I do Bengals Radio.
Speaker 3: I said, hey, I'm on the area, you guys, I said,
Speaker 3: I just wanted to say, man, thank you. This guy
Speaker 3: stopped dead in his tracks and just held a conversation. Yeah,
Speaker 3: looks right in the eye, right, you know. Not not
Speaker 3: I'm talking and leaning because I got to go right.
Speaker 3: But no, I'm going to stop look you and eye
Speaker 3: and talk to you. And obviously I respected his time
Speaker 3: as well. I said maybe two more things and said, hey,
Speaker 3: man again, just wanted to stay it low and he said, man,
Speaker 3: I appreciate it.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you appreciate it. And he did. I mean, he
Speaker 5: appreciated that coming from your box, you know. And uh,
Speaker 5: you know, Flack, Oh, he's just talking again with the
Speaker 5: offensive lineman in the locker room. They say he is
Speaker 5: just a great person, you know, he just understand he
Speaker 5: was raised right, he's uh, you know, part of a
Speaker 5: great family. They're super proud of him. They support him.
Speaker 5: He's got a beautiful wife and children. You know, he's
Speaker 5: he's settled in man, you know, and he wants to
Speaker 5: make Cincinnati his home, you know, during the football he's
Speaker 5: I'm sure his family will still live where they live
Speaker 5: on a year round basis. I'm not sure he wants
Speaker 5: to disrupt their schooling and all that sort of thing.
Speaker 5: But he's a big plus for any community.
Speaker 4: No question about it. And we talked about it last night.
Speaker 3: And while I'm not Zach Taylor and I can't give
Speaker 3: his wife a game ball, like I'll give her a
Speaker 3: chicken wing. I mean, you know, a game chicken wing,
Speaker 3: because you know what she did.
Speaker 16: You know.
Speaker 4: Yeah, they say every behind every good man is a
Speaker 4: good woman. And here's a.
Speaker 3: Guy, you know, coming down to Cincinnati and then the
Speaker 3: wife say, I'm taking notes to helping out. We're gonna
Speaker 3: we're going to get this done and get you ready.
Speaker 3: And there's nothing wrong with a good teammate.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, he said that the whole ride down
Speaker 5: from Cleveland to Cincinnati. She would give a formation, he
Speaker 5: give the play, She gave the play. He gave the formation.
Speaker 5: He said. She was his study partner, and so hey,
Speaker 5: kudos to her. She had a big influence on the
Speaker 5: success of the football team, and I'm sure she's very
Speaker 5: happy about it.
Speaker 4: No question about. We'll take a break. We're gonna hear
Speaker 4: from Brook pryor from ESPN Pittsburgh.
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Speaker 4: Time to go to the hotline.
Speaker 3: This young lady, I'm telling you she knows football, she
Speaker 3: knows Pittsburgh Silver Football. Sure she can get it done. Yes,
Speaker 3: put it down in writing. Pleasure to Welcome to the show, Brook,
Speaker 3: pryor Brooke, How are you.
Speaker 4: My friend?
Speaker 14: I am great to know that I've had two or
Speaker 14: three cold birds today. I've lost track a little bit
Speaker 14: that day after a primetime game. Game just I mean
Speaker 14: hits you.
Speaker 16: Like a bus.
Speaker 14: It is.
Speaker 16: It is brutal, you know.
Speaker 3: I tell you this was a game that many people
Speaker 3: thought would be a great game defensively, and it turned
Speaker 3: into a great game offensively.
Speaker 4: In your opinion, what happened?
Speaker 14: That is the million dollar question. I mean, I think
Speaker 14: we can all see why Mike Tomlin did not want
Speaker 14: to face Joe Flacco and why he was so mad
Speaker 14: at Andrew Berry. I think that what happened is that
Speaker 14: the Steelers couldn't stop the run, and that's really where
Speaker 14: it all started to fall apart, where the wheels started
Speaker 14: to come off, and then they clearly nothing was working
Speaker 14: on Jamar Chase and T Higgins. I think Joe Flacco
Speaker 14: did a really good job getting the ball out of
Speaker 14: his hands quickly. He knew where he wanted to go
Speaker 14: with the ball, which is incredibly impressive only being with
Speaker 14: the team for ten days and just having those veteran instincts,
Speaker 14: being Holm cool, collected all those Joe Cool things. The
Speaker 14: Steelers defense just didn't have any answer for it. And
Speaker 14: I think that if you're the Steelers and you're Mike Tomlin,
Speaker 14: you were very open about building a secondary specifically for
Speaker 14: the Bengals to be able to match up with T
Speaker 14: Higgins and Jamar Chase. This is a really bad look.
Speaker 14: This is a really bad kind of first result because
Speaker 14: it showed that the scheme is not effective and that
Speaker 14: your players might be too old, even though you've gone
Speaker 14: out to get them, they're just not in the right shape.
Speaker 14: Jalen Ramsey Darius Slay older in their careers, Jalen Ramsey
Speaker 14: also coming off of a hamstring injury on a short week.
Speaker 14: They just don't have the same abilities that they did
Speaker 14: earlier in their careers, so it was really just a
Speaker 14: failure top to bottom.
Speaker 5: Are you surprised at all that the Pittsburgh Steelers, Mike
Speaker 5: Tomlin as the head coach and then the defensive coordinator
Speaker 5: Terrell Austin, did not make adjustments? You know that they
Speaker 5: were slow in making adjustments to what the Cincinnati Bengals
Speaker 5: were doing offensively, particularly with you know, a new quarterback
Speaker 5: and you know you know he's going to go to
Speaker 5: the top two receivers, but they the Bengals were doing
Speaker 5: it in different ways, different formations, motion, personnel groupings, that
Speaker 5: sort of thing. Were you surprised that Pittsburgh had difficulty
Speaker 5: handling it?
Speaker 14: No, And I'm not surprised because this is what I've
Speaker 14: seen out of this defense pretty much as long as
Speaker 14: I've been here, although the last couple of years have
Speaker 14: been worse. This defense is not great at making in
Speaker 14: game adjustments, and they're definitely not good at preparation on
Speaker 14: a short week. Mike Tomlin's now oh to seven on
Speaker 14: Thursday night games against divisional road opponents. So for whatever reason,
Speaker 14: this is what trips them up. And the kind of
Speaker 14: flat footedness of the defense and the inability to adjust,
Speaker 14: I think is a root of the problem. But that's
Speaker 14: that's how he coaches, that's how Carol Austin calls it.
Speaker 14: This has been a recurring theme of the defense not
Speaker 14: being able to adjust in the second half or throughout
Speaker 14: the game. So I wish I could say I was surprised,
Speaker 14: but I'm not.
Speaker 3: You know, Brooke standing on the defensive side of the ball.
Speaker 3: I've watched Joey Porter Junior, and I mean me personally,
Speaker 3: I'm not a coach, I don't have NFL credentials, but
Speaker 3: it seems like to me, I'm just not impressed with him.
Speaker 16: You know.
Speaker 14: I think that he was really frustrated after the game.
Speaker 14: He felt like it wasn't called fairly. I don't necessarily
Speaker 14: agree with that. I tend to agree with Jalen Ramsey
Speaker 14: that the calls don't matter. It was, you know, up
Speaker 14: to the DBS to make the plays and be better.
Speaker 14: I think that Joey has just been kind of a
Speaker 14: little up and down. He was hurt early in the season.
Speaker 14: I think he's still trying to come back from that
Speaker 14: soft tissue injury, but it's made his development not be
Speaker 14: quite as linear as I expected. I think that he
Speaker 14: tends to fall into this trap of he hand fights
Speaker 14: and then he gets penalized, and then he doesn't really
Speaker 14: correct anything he said. You know, I tried to talk
Speaker 14: with the officials about what I was doing, but they
Speaker 14: didn't want to have an educational conversation. That's not great,
Speaker 14: not a good look to complain about the officials after that,
Speaker 14: And then he's been a step slow on some of those,
Speaker 14: on some of that man to man. So I think
Speaker 14: that it's not that all hope is lost for him
Speaker 14: by any means. I think that he still has another
Speaker 14: level that he can get to, but the development hasn't
Speaker 14: been as consistent as you'd like to see it.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 3: I think part of that is, as a coach used
Speaker 3: to tell me, when you talk a lot to draw
Speaker 3: attention to yourself, and I think.
Speaker 4: He's one of those guys.
Speaker 3: But on other side of the ball, Aaron Rodgers, I mean,
Speaker 3: he still has a spin on that ball that just
Speaker 3: he and Flacco both and Dave talked about it earlier.
Speaker 3: But sometime I wonder, just like the first inn Sepsy threw,
Speaker 3: was that a matter of him thinking that his guy
Speaker 3: was just gonna turn that into a fifty to fifty
Speaker 3: ball or was it just simply, in your mind a
Speaker 3: bad throw.
Speaker 14: I think it was maybe a little bit of both.
Speaker 14: I forget what his answer was about it after the game,
Speaker 14: that he just made a bad decision, but you know,
Speaker 14: and then the other one was just a great play
Speaker 14: by the defender to wrestle it away from DK Metcalf,
Speaker 14: and DK was really frustrated about on himself for that,
Speaker 14: for letting that happen. But I mean, outside of those
Speaker 14: two interceptions and really just one interception that was I
Speaker 14: think a mental error by Aaron Rodgers, I was really
Speaker 14: impressed with him. I mean, this has now been two
Speaker 14: weeks in a row or just you know, four or
Speaker 14: five days in a row, or games separated by that much.
Speaker 14: Seeing him be able to extend the play, move around
Speaker 14: in the pocket by time. I mean the touchdown of
Speaker 14: John new Smith, he had nine point eight seconds until
Speaker 14: he threw the ball, the longest in a long time
Speaker 14: that he's held the ball. I feel like he has
Speaker 14: a better command of this offense. Although it's interesting he
Speaker 14: has a better command yet I saw him be more
Speaker 14: frustrated at guys last night than he's been at any
Speaker 14: point in the year. Is almost like bad aeron was.
Speaker 14: He had a good aeron and bad aeron on his
Speaker 14: shoulders and bad aerin one. And he was very demonstrative.
Speaker 14: Although Broderick Jones may have deserved that for tackling Rogers
Speaker 14: in celebration. You can't do that to a forty one
Speaker 14: year old. But you know, I was impressed with him
Speaker 14: last night. It is it feels like I live in
Speaker 14: Bizarro world, that the Steelers offense was not the problem
Speaker 14: and that it's the defense that keeps coming up short.
Speaker 5: This might be almost crazy, and I hate to put
Speaker 5: you on the spot, but I'm going to put you
Speaker 5: on the spotcast a little bit and if you feel uncomfortable,
Speaker 5: we'll just let me know. But Mike Tomlin has been
Speaker 5: there a long time, twenty whatever years. I don't think
Speaker 5: he's had a losing season. The guy's remarkable, great coach.
Speaker 5: I've met him. He went to Miami and Ohio, where
Speaker 5: my son went to college, and that was a while ago.
Speaker 5: He's in the Hall of Fame there. I mean, he's
Speaker 5: an incredible human being, incredible person as well as phenomenal
Speaker 5: football coach. Do you think it might be time that
Speaker 5: the Pittsburgh Steelers decide to move on from Mike Tomlin
Speaker 5: and go in another direction. And if they do decide that,
Speaker 5: do you think it will be promotion from within or
Speaker 5: do you think they'll go outside the organization to find
Speaker 5: the next head coach.
Speaker 14: Well, the thing about the Steelers organization is that, you know,
Speaker 14: no matter what I think or what anybody thinks about
Speaker 14: what they should do with Mike Tomlin, the reality is
Speaker 14: he just started the first year of his newest extension,
Speaker 14: and the Pittsburgh Deelers they don't pay coaches not to work,
Speaker 14: and b I don't. I don't think that because of
Speaker 14: how long he's been there, and you're right, he's never
Speaker 14: had a losing season. He has built up so much
Speaker 14: goodwill and credibility and trust that they are not going
Speaker 14: to be the ones to say, Okay, we need to
Speaker 14: try something else. If something, if they were to get
Speaker 14: a new head coach, it would have to be Mike
Speaker 14: Tomlin going to them and saying, I've done all I
Speaker 14: can do here, I need to move on. That's what
Speaker 14: it would take. I don't see him doing that, just
Speaker 14: like I don't see the Steelers saying, Mike, we're ready
Speaker 14: to move on. I think that you know, while there
Speaker 14: are recurring themes here with the defense needing to change
Speaker 14: the scheme, with the lack of in game adjustments, with
Speaker 14: some of the talent acquisition, which yes, omark On is
Speaker 14: a general manager, but Mike Tomlin has a huge, huge
Speaker 14: stay in roster construction. All of these things are things
Speaker 14: that deserve scrutiny. But the reality is that the Pittsburgh
Speaker 14: Steelers don't change because of things like that, which is
Speaker 14: crazy because we know they haven't won a playoff game
Speaker 14: in a really long time, but they believe in staying
Speaker 14: the course and staying loyal and so they're just kind
Speaker 14: of in this stalemate until something gives right.
Speaker 3: Well, Brooke, we always appreciate you making time for us.
Speaker 3: You are absolutely fantastic. Follow her on social media. Thank
Speaker 3: you so much for carving out some time.
Speaker 4: I know you've been in demand, but rightfully so, yeah, man,
Speaker 4: appreciate you, Broke.
Speaker 14: Thanks for having me. Guys have a good weekend, all.
Speaker 4: Right, Thank you so much.
Speaker 3: As Brooke prior ESPN Pittsburgh, she does a phenomenal job.
Speaker 4: I really love following reading her work.
Speaker 3: We'll take a break, we'll come back, but more you're
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Speaker 4: Welcome back to the Bengals.
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Speaker 3: I'm gonna be selfish here for a second. I don't
Speaker 3: really care if you like it or not, for you
Speaker 3: knew about it. Ladies and gentlemen, let's give Dave Lapham
Speaker 3: a well deserved round of applause going in the ring
Speaker 3: of honor.
Speaker 5: Oh thank you.
Speaker 3: Next Saturday there's a reception, and then Sunday the game
Speaker 3: against the New York Jets. And I mean, I get
Speaker 3: a little emotion about this. I don't even hide it, man,
Speaker 3: I just I just have.
Speaker 4: Gotten to know you.
Speaker 3: I knew you you know then, but I've gotten to
Speaker 3: really know you because we've worked together so many things.
Speaker 3: I wish I could tell people about just the kind
Speaker 3: of person you are, but I think they already know.
Speaker 3: You're an ambassador for this team, You're an ambassador for
Speaker 3: the city, You're an ambassador for the NFL. And uh,
Speaker 3: for you to have this moment and to see it happen,
Speaker 3: you know, so many times things happened posthumously, right, Uh.
Speaker 4: But to be here, Man, I got to tell you
Speaker 4: how happy I am for you. Man.
Speaker 2: I appreciate you.
Speaker 5: Man, I appreciate you. You're a good man. And uh,
Speaker 5: those kind words are mean a ton. Believe me. You're
Speaker 5: you're everything that you just said. You know, on my behalf.
Speaker 5: You're You're a diamond in the rough. You're a gym
Speaker 5: in this community, man, and uh, Cincinnati is very fortunate
Speaker 5: to have you, uh doing things in the in the
Speaker 5: media world, in the broadcast world.
Speaker 4: For sure.
Speaker 5: The people I'm most excited for are my grandkids. There
Speaker 5: they're like all they're they're they're over the moon. Man.
Speaker 5: It's like, but you're going in where now?
Speaker 4: What are you doing?
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's called the Ring of Honor. You know, are
Speaker 5: gonna be have a jersey up on the on the
Speaker 5: wall inside the stadium forever yeah, I don't think they're
Speaker 5: gonna be so it's pretty cool.
Speaker 16: You know.
Speaker 5: They're like ages ten to twelve, and there are two boys,
Speaker 5: two girls pretty close, real smart and they they are
Speaker 5: a lot of fun. There's no doubt about it. And
Speaker 5: that's what it's all about. Families, what it's all about.
Speaker 5: That's why you know you do what you do no
Speaker 5: matter what kind of a pression you have.
Speaker 3: Well, the thing about it is, man, we watched from
Speaker 3: the broadcast booth.
Speaker 4: We watch these ceremonies.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and it is special.
Speaker 3: You look Anthony Munos and Ken Anderson and Busis and
Speaker 3: Willie Anderson and Corey Dillon and Ken Riley, and you
Speaker 3: see it and you see true diehard Bengal fans appreciating
Speaker 3: what that player represents. I've often said, and I've said
Speaker 3: it on these shows for a number of years. The
Speaker 3: reason why I thought it was so important for you
Speaker 3: to be in the Ring of Honors because you go
Speaker 3: to games and tell stories of what you see, right,
Speaker 3: and when you look up and you take your son
Speaker 3: to the game for the first time, of your granddaughter
Speaker 3: for the first time, and you look up and say, well,
Speaker 3: who's that, there's a story there well, who's that up there?
Speaker 3: There's a story there, and so fifty years of what
Speaker 3: you've been to this franchise. I just wanted to take
Speaker 3: a segment out of this show to say, Man, if
Speaker 3: there was ever anybody that deserved.
Speaker 5: I appreciate you, man, Thanks Box, You're the best. I mean,
Speaker 5: the thing that I can't get my head around is
Speaker 5: forty years in the booth and ten years on the field.
Speaker 5: I thought fifty years, man, I didn't think I'd be
Speaker 5: doing anything. But you know, football is my love. You know,
Speaker 5: fell in love with the sport a long time ago
Speaker 5: and still fortunate enough to be able to do it
Speaker 5: at the age of seventy three. So I consider myself
Speaker 5: one of the luckiest people I know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and we are too, man for having known you
Speaker 3: and get to hear you. Thank you man, your excitement
Speaker 3: and everything else. Lady's dumb and Dave Lapham going in
Speaker 3: the Ring of honor and I'm just just so happy, man.
Speaker 3: And uh, it's gonna be a special night, man, I
Speaker 3: I can't wait. Uh, you know, and talking about that night,
Speaker 3: let's talk about that game, because we don't want to
Speaker 3: look past the New York guests either.
Speaker 5: They're hurting.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and they've got they've got another game at home
Speaker 4: against the Carolina Panthers, I believe.
Speaker 3: And uh man, you talking about somebody being in the
Speaker 3: hot seat and New York.
Speaker 4: It doesn't take long.
Speaker 3: And Vincy g and Glenn came in heralded and excited
Speaker 3: and talking about what they were going to do, and
Speaker 3: and they did it for a quarter, maybe two quarters,
Speaker 3: maybe three quarters.
Speaker 4: They haven't done it for a whole game.
Speaker 3: So I said, selfishly, I hope they win this week,
Speaker 3: and I wanted to come in here next week, you know,
Speaker 3: even more desperate. But you can't celebrate this win so
Speaker 3: much last night that you forget that you have to
Speaker 3: raise your level of play next week, because that is
Speaker 3: a desperate.
Speaker 5: Team, absolutely, And uh you know, desperate sometimes means you know,
Speaker 5: they're all or nothing. They're coming in to get it done,
Speaker 5: and that's when upsets occur. Upsets occur when you're heavily favored,
Speaker 5: you know, and the Bengals will probably be close to
Speaker 5: a touchdown favorite in the National Football League. That's monstrous.
Speaker 5: That's a big spread. So the Bengals cannot, you know,
Speaker 5: rest on their laurels as such, and they shouldn't I mean,
Speaker 5: they don't have a five hundred record yet. If they
Speaker 5: win this football game, they will, you know, but you know,
Speaker 5: who are they to be like we've arrived. No, you
Speaker 5: haven't arrived. You haven't arrived anywhere yet. But it'll be
Speaker 5: interesting because you know, New York Jets. It's not like
Speaker 5: they don't have talent. Every team in the National Football
Speaker 5: League has football players. It's just a matter of how
Speaker 5: has it been put together, how's it all working? And
Speaker 5: right now the Jets just haven't found the right formula.
Speaker 3: No question about it. We'll take a break, we'll come back.
Speaker 3: We got one more segment in this hour. Then we'll
Speaker 3: be joined by T. J.
Speaker 4: Slayton.
Speaker 3: It's the Bengals Part Rally Show broadcasting live. I'm on
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Speaker 4: I got this solid next time. I'm gonna eat healthy
Speaker 4: next week.
Speaker 5: And they get all kinds of different drinks here too.
Speaker 5: I mean, be it water, be it soda, be atn
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Speaker 3: Yeah, fully stock bar and outdoor area outside where you
Speaker 3: can go and chill and do that out there as well.
Speaker 5: Place to be man, no question about it.
Speaker 4: Lap.
Speaker 3: As we wrap up this hour, you know, we were
Speaker 3: talking about the Jets, and one of the things I
Speaker 3: think about is the Kansasity Chiefs came in here years
Speaker 3: ago and they were undefeated.
Speaker 4: The Bengals were winless. Yeah, it was just everybody's like, oh,
Speaker 4: that's gonna just roll over.
Speaker 3: The Bengals is gonna be And the Bengals ended that
Speaker 3: winning streak because they were a desperate team. And we
Speaker 3: were talking about that going into the break, and you know,
Speaker 3: a lot of tigns for coaches, even they get to
Speaker 3: a place where, hey, we're throwing the kitchen sink at
Speaker 3: it this.
Speaker 4: Week, because what else do we have to lose?
Speaker 3: Nothing else working. We need to just get something done.
Speaker 3: So we're just gonna trash the playbook. Let's go out
Speaker 3: here and play sand lot football.
Speaker 5: And you know, I think back to Paul Brown and
Speaker 5: Tiger Johnson, my first line coach, Bill to Johnson. Ahors
Speaker 5: used to say, yeah, now you know, we'd be like
Speaker 5: six and oh playing a team that was two and four. Oh,
Speaker 5: you guys are all fat and sassy. Man, you're all
Speaker 5: sitting on your high or and uh whatever team is
Speaker 5: coming in and they're looking to just knock you around. Man,
Speaker 5: they're looking to just slap you silly, and uh, they
Speaker 5: can embarrass you. They're they're good football players. And if
Speaker 5: they put it together on any given Sunday, just like
Speaker 5: the storyline goes, any given Sunday, upsets can occur. And
Speaker 5: and uh, you guys, from what I've seen so far
Speaker 5: in practice this week, I don't like what I see.
Speaker 5: You guys are gonna get knocked off and you're gonna
Speaker 5: be sorry about it. So get yourself together, get your
Speaker 5: gets your order.
Speaker 3: No question about it, and you know, lap, I think
Speaker 3: part of it. Whether people want to accept this or not,
Speaker 3: and I say, fans, really yeah, it's a human element. Man,
Speaker 3: You're you're winning, robody a team struggling. It's human ature
Speaker 3: to think, man, that they're they're not that good. We
Speaker 3: don't have to worry about that. And you you may
Speaker 3: even say, hey, well let me not do that. I'm
Speaker 3: gonna get my tentacles up. Part of you is still
Speaker 3: thinking we should just beat these guys. And that's when
Speaker 3: you put yourself in harm, no question, you know.
Speaker 5: And you hear it from everybody, and you wake up
Speaker 5: in the morning and you hear it from your wife.
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, man, you guys are playing so well. I'm
Speaker 5: so proud of ye. Since I'm proud of your Cincinnati brangle.
Speaker 5: The kids they go to school, all their schoolmates are like,
Speaker 5: oh man, the Bengals are really good. Your dad's really good.
Speaker 5: That you guys have to be just unbelievably happy, you know.
Speaker 5: And and that house of cards can crumble quickly.
Speaker 4: Rumble quickly, you know.
Speaker 3: I was thinking again, we talked about special teams always
Speaker 3: being something that matters, and I thought the Bengals special
Speaker 3: teams was really rock stay. You know, Tyson Anderson and
Speaker 3: those guys. Yeah, they take so much pride in what
Speaker 3: they do out there.
Speaker 4: Man.
Speaker 3: And again, you talked about just a caliber of people
Speaker 3: that are on this team, but I've always said, you
Speaker 3: look at how a special teams group plays, that will
Speaker 3: tell you a lot about the locker room and the
Speaker 3: makeup of the teams.
Speaker 5: I agree, I agree. You know, special teams players are.
Speaker 5: They're special. It's a special there's no doubt about it.
Speaker 5: And Darren Simmons does as well as anybody in the
Speaker 5: National Football League. I mean, he gets the most out
Speaker 5: of his players every single year. Ryan Rico can crush
Speaker 5: a football. It's amazing how well he can kick punt
Speaker 5: of football for length and height. His hangtime is just
Speaker 5: out of this world. Ridiculous and money Mack, I'm telling you,
Speaker 5: Evan McPherson, this guy is automatic. Man. You start to
Speaker 5: count the three points before they're even going to be
Speaker 5: put up on the board. Officially, he is. He's something
Speaker 5: special and great teammate and teammates look to him. They
Speaker 5: respect his talents, they respect the leg that he's got
Speaker 5: to hang off of that right hip, and they love
Speaker 5: them some money.
Speaker 4: Mack Moneymack is that guy man.
Speaker 3: He seems to be back. And for me, yeah, that's
Speaker 3: UFT to the Bengals. Next few games, we lead them
Speaker 3: to the bye week. They've got the New York Jets,
Speaker 3: followed by the Chicago Bears and then the bye week.
Speaker 3: And on the backside of the bye week, man, fasten
Speaker 3: your tension. Pittsburgh still is on the road. Patriots coming
Speaker 3: here on the road to the Ravens. Don't tell me
Speaker 3: nothing about the Baltimore Ravens record on the road in
Speaker 3: Baltimore Thanksgiving Night is going to be one tough match.
Speaker 3: Then they go on the road to the Buffalo Bills
Speaker 3: and then Baltimore comes here.
Speaker 5: That's a stretch.
Speaker 3: That's a stretch, man. And I tell you what, that's
Speaker 3: a bye week that really fell at a good time
Speaker 3: because it's it's it's almost like that midway point and
Speaker 3: give them a chance to just rest up, because when
Speaker 3: you come back from that, it is all about making
Speaker 3: that drive to get to that first goal, and that
Speaker 3: is to win the AFC North and then the playoffs.
Speaker 4: Will come if you win that, and you can go
Speaker 4: from there.
Speaker 3: But no, no, there are no gimmes in the NFL,
Speaker 3: And I think you were great to point it out
Speaker 3: even with the Jets.
Speaker 5: Yeah, there's no gimmeis whatsoever. And and I will say
Speaker 5: that that stretch is going to be a challenge, But
Speaker 5: I really do believe that this team is put together
Speaker 5: with the type of our personalities, the type of character,
Speaker 5: type of fiber to handle it.
Speaker 3: Marks all right, back with our number three does the
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Speaker 3: Wayne box Miller, Dave Lapham, Mike the Engineer with US
Speaker 3: and my Mike Magic on the heels of a thirty
Speaker 3: three thirty one win over the Pittsburgh Steelers, who go
Speaker 3: two and ozer in the the Vision two and on
Speaker 3: the Division and a tough game. They got some time
Speaker 3: to rest up again. If you haven't been here, you
Speaker 3: need to join us great restaurants. We're gonna do a
Speaker 3: little trivia in the next break to see how true
Speaker 3: the Bengal fans are here. I got one tough question already.
Speaker 5: There you go.
Speaker 3: It might be a stumper because I'm gonna get you
Speaker 3: on a technicality, but we've got We're gonna try to
Speaker 3: get Max Starks from the Pittsburgh Steelers radio on with us.
Speaker 3: And we also got fantastic fun facts.
Speaker 4: But let's go. We got Max already.
Speaker 3: Let's cue this man and Max Man, what a heck
Speaker 3: of a player for the Pittsburgh Still there's a number.
Speaker 4: Of years like you lap you offensive linemen. You go
Speaker 4: up in the booth. I don't know what does les
Speaker 4: to Welcome to show Max Starks. Max, how are you brother?
Speaker 16: I am I'm doing well.
Speaker 8: And of course you know you send the most intelligent
Speaker 8: guys to the boot.
Speaker 16: I mean, that's what you do. By Dave and I
Speaker 16: are in our respective positions.
Speaker 4: A max I.
Speaker 3: I tell you, for the fans and and for the
Speaker 3: TV viewing network, what a great game.
Speaker 4: But if you're still a fan, not so good.
Speaker 8: Yeah you're yeah, you know. I mean, but this is
Speaker 8: what those games are. This is what aft nor football is, right.
Speaker 8: It's it's gonna be tight, it's gonna be one possession.
Speaker 8: Never is there just some type of just walk off, blowoff,
Speaker 8: blowout game, unless it's that team that's a little bit.
Speaker 16: East of y'all.
Speaker 8: But this is this is normally how those games go.
Speaker 8: I mean, you look at the last ten times the
Speaker 8: Cincinnati Bengals.
Speaker 16: And here's a play.
Speaker 8: It literally comes down to the scores two hundred and
Speaker 8: thirty seven to two hundred and thirty seven points scored
Speaker 8: for both teams. Wow, Like that's how evenly matched this
Speaker 8: type of contest is.
Speaker 5: Man, I mean that that is crazy. That is crazy.
Speaker 5: The Bengal when they were preparing for this football game
Speaker 5: doc with the coaches, they said two things are going
Speaker 5: to be determining factor in this football game turnovers, and
Speaker 5: the Bengals were plus two in that category. They got
Speaker 5: too off. The Pittsburgh Steelers and didn't turn it over
Speaker 5: at all, and then the running game would they be
Speaker 5: able to have a successful ground attack. And Chase Brown
Speaker 5: obviously was big, a big part of that for the
Speaker 5: Cincinnati Bengals in their favor, and you know, they felt
Speaker 5: like they needed to control Pittsburgh's running game. They couldn't
Speaker 5: let Pittsburgh's running game get out the gate and h
Speaker 5: and do some serious damage. What's the reaction been like,
Speaker 5: What was the reaction like in the locker room when
Speaker 5: you hit the locker room after the football game, And
Speaker 5: what's it been like from the media.
Speaker 8: You know, I think I think there was a sense
Speaker 8: of disappointment, you know, amongst the players faces because they
Speaker 8: know that the execution just wasn't there in the key moments.
Speaker 8: I mean, you know, normally, when you put up thirty
Speaker 8: one points, right, you're supposed to win a game. But
Speaker 8: that comes down to the defense not being able to
Speaker 8: do their job. I mean, you know, you think about it.
Speaker 8: The Bengals scored, you guys scored on seven of nine
Speaker 8: drives in the game last night. And for a defense
Speaker 8: that quote unquote was supposed to be tenacious, it didn't
Speaker 8: prove to be that.
Speaker 16: It proved to be the.
Speaker 8: Opposite of that, and offense we thought was the issue,
Speaker 8: ended up showing up. Now, granted, those two interceptions, I
Speaker 8: have to say the first one Aaron tried to force
Speaker 8: one that wasn't there, that first interception down the sideline,
Speaker 8: But the second one, DJ Turner made a heck of
Speaker 8: a play and I have to give him all the
Speaker 8: credit in the world. He made a heck of a
Speaker 8: play and to get that knee down right before he
Speaker 8: went out of bounds was huge, and it was something
Speaker 8: and it was something that I think when you look
Speaker 8: at just how the game went, those are those moments.
Speaker 8: But for the Steelers to be as in control as
Speaker 8: you were in the first quarter, I think once they
Speaker 8: messed up on that that botched fleet flicker that was
Speaker 8: called off, but not everybody knew it was called off,
Speaker 8: and that really set the momentum in the Bengals favor.
Speaker 8: And you guys took took advantage of it and ran
Speaker 8: with it. And now a lot of miscommunication with Jamar Chase.
Speaker 8: I mean, Jamark Chase had probably one of his best games.
Speaker 16: Ever, you know, and for and for Joe Flacco.
Speaker 8: You think about this, that's the most pass that he's
Speaker 8: had former receiver and how many teams he played on,
Speaker 8: how long is he played in this league? And that
Speaker 8: was the most beat out the previous of twelve against
Speaker 8: with Steve Smith when he was in Baltimore, right right.
Speaker 3: Yeah, So it's really tough because I think what happens
Speaker 3: is you think that you got this game plan and
Speaker 3: all of a sudden, the things don't happen the way
Speaker 3: you want him to, and it causes problem because the
Speaker 3: steel is like the run the ball, but the still
Speaker 3: is like to stop people for run the ball, and
Speaker 3: they couldn't do that, so it made it made it
Speaker 3: a challenge for them.
Speaker 16: Yeah, and the time of possession.
Speaker 8: I mean that that that drive in the third quarter
Speaker 8: kind of like what you guys did the week before
Speaker 8: against Green Bay. You know that third quarter drive that
Speaker 8: just chews up about half o'clock. I mean green Bay
Speaker 8: it was a ten minutes and thirteen second, eighteen play drive.
Speaker 8: Then you follow that up on Thursday night and the
Speaker 8: third quarter you have a fourteen play, seventh minute and
Speaker 8: five second drive. So those are the things that when
Speaker 8: you're coming out the gates for the second half, you
Speaker 8: get in that first possession, you kind of get to
Speaker 8: dictate to the opposite team how the terms are going
Speaker 8: to be, and the Steelers never quite changed the momentum
Speaker 8: or the rhythm of the control once the Bengals took over.
Speaker 3: Max Starks from Pittsburgh steel A Radio, join us right now.
Speaker 3: You know, Max, talk about the atmosphere last night. I mean,
Speaker 3: you know, Pittsburgh has their crowd, their their audience, but
Speaker 3: that white out last night had to be something that
Speaker 3: you just couldn't ignore if you're a Steeler.
Speaker 16: Oh no, you absolutely couldn't. It was.
Speaker 8: And I actually put this on social media, I said,
Speaker 8: I said, and I had a Bengals game, or had
Speaker 8: a Cincinnati Bearcat game, right because.
Speaker 16: It gave you that call the atmosphere.
Speaker 8: Yeah, of you know of a white out or black
Speaker 8: you know when teams want to do their all out
Speaker 8: color and to change the field, I.
Speaker 16: Thought was was just genius.
Speaker 8: And to do all the white in there, it gave
Speaker 8: you a collegiate atmosphere. I think I think it actually
Speaker 8: intensified the crowd. And like you said, normally you see
Speaker 8: a lot of Steeler fans. If they were there, you
Speaker 8: couldn't really tell, because I'm sure most Steeler fans probably
Speaker 8: came and think we're wearing away white, so you wear
Speaker 8: white and then you're like, oh, man, I walked.
Speaker 16: Into a whiteout.
Speaker 8: So in fact, for me, I had a white polo
Speaker 8: over you saw me last night, you know, and I
Speaker 8: didn't even know, so it was a surprise. I'm like,
Speaker 8: dang it, I wish I would have not had to
Speaker 8: wear a black polo. But I thought that was a
Speaker 8: really cool environment, especially for Thursday night football.
Speaker 16: Right we think of.
Speaker 8: All these color Rush jerseys and how the NFL's changed
Speaker 8: with Nike, and I thought that was a really cool
Speaker 8: touch to have that type of environment. And it played perfectly,
Speaker 8: especially from you know, the television standpoint and especially the
Speaker 8: viewing public that was in the stadium. You felt like
Speaker 8: it was a rallied home game for a Thursday night game.
Speaker 5: Yeah, there's no doubt. Let me ask you a question
Speaker 5: that Steeler fans probably will never ever, you know, want
Speaker 5: to talk about her here? Mike Tomlin. Mike Tomlin's been
Speaker 5: around a long time, had great success. I mean, hell
Speaker 5: of a football coach, unbelievable human being. He's He's been
Speaker 5: a credit to the Pittsburgh Steelers organization, the National Football
Speaker 5: League all over the world. Do you think Mike Tomlin,
Speaker 5: the Rudy Family, Pittsburgh organization, do you think they're considering
Speaker 5: moving on from Mike Tomlin?
Speaker 16: I would say don't. I don't think so right now.
Speaker 8: I think that's something that when you look at just
Speaker 8: the track record him being really the only coach to
Speaker 8: go as long as he has of never having a
Speaker 8: losing record. I know people kind of play and say,
Speaker 8: but what does that mean?
Speaker 16: You know, if you can't wait to.
Speaker 8: Play it, I said, but at the end of the day,
Speaker 8: you know, success and continued success in that department means
Speaker 8: you're never in that position.
Speaker 16: And I think you know, his his skill.
Speaker 8: In his coaching is when it's been in those tough
Speaker 8: situations when you haven't had a roster that should have
Speaker 8: been five hundred, and you.
Speaker 16: Still find a way.
Speaker 8: And when we look around.
Speaker 16: This league, right we look at what the Jets, we
Speaker 16: look at you know, the Saints.
Speaker 8: We look at all these the Carolinas, right we look
Speaker 8: at these other wanders to have constant, massive turnover and
Speaker 8: they don't give coaches time to really mature get their
Speaker 8: system implemented.
Speaker 16: We see what's going on down.
Speaker 8: In Miami right now, right there's many points and numbers
Speaker 8: they put up, they still can't win. And you see
Speaker 8: Mike McDaniel's struggling and he's probably not going to make
Speaker 8: it to the end of the year. It's like there's
Speaker 8: something to be said for that continue tried tested in
Speaker 8: true mentality. Because the Steelers have only had three coaches
Speaker 8: since nineteen sixty nine, you know there's something for that,
Speaker 8: and that stability is what they try and breed. But
Speaker 8: I think, you know, for the Steelers organization, like especially
Speaker 8: this year, you want to see more consistency. But I
Speaker 8: think four and two still in a very good position
Speaker 8: considering what the rest of the vision looks like, especially
Speaker 8: when you're thinking about where Baltimore and where Cleveland are sitting.
Speaker 8: You know, you'd rather be in this position than on
Speaker 8: the other.
Speaker 16: Side of that.
Speaker 8: So I look at they're ready to necessarily move on
Speaker 8: from that. I think a lot of people, you know,
Speaker 8: chirp and especially a lot of the national media folks
Speaker 8: just want to see something different because they're tired of
Speaker 8: seeing this and you know, just like the Belichick effect, right,
Speaker 8: but it took Belichick having to lose Tom Brady have
Speaker 8: those losing seasons before they made a decision, and the
Speaker 8: Steelers have made it work with six different starting quarterbacks
Speaker 8: over the last three years and still made the play
Speaker 8: for easy.
Speaker 3: It's crazy, hey, Maxim I appreciates you so much for
Speaker 3: giving us a few minutes, brother, and keep getting continuing
Speaker 3: on that goal.
Speaker 4: Man, you look good. Brother, I got to tell you that.
Speaker 16: Yeah, now, I appreciate it.
Speaker 2: Wayne.
Speaker 8: And once again, you know, there's always still a semi
Speaker 8: soft spot in my heart for the Bengals because of
Speaker 8: my father. So you know I right, You know, it
Speaker 8: definitely isn't the quite inkst that I have towards Baltimore
Speaker 8: and Cleveland. You know, Cincinnati outside of when we play,
Speaker 8: is a team that I still still.
Speaker 16: Have a fond thought of.
Speaker 3: One of the best defensive linemen that ever put on
Speaker 3: the seventy nine in this.
Speaker 4: Building, I would say that for sure, brother.
Speaker 5: He could play.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 5: He was a stun my man, Max Starks.
Speaker 4: Everybody, thank you so much, brother, Thanks for.
Speaker 16: Having my pleasure. Y'all take care all right?
Speaker 3: There was Max Starks Pittsburgh, still his radio. His dad,
Speaker 3: Ross Browner played the same position our guest next to
Speaker 3: us played, and this young man drafted in the fifth
Speaker 3: round of Green Bay signed with US this year back
Speaker 3: in March. But I'm gonna read some accolades on the
Speaker 3: other side because he's not one dimensional as an athlete
Speaker 3: or a player. Ladies and Deman, welcome TJ. Slayton to
Speaker 3: the Biggest peth Rally Show. We'll take a break and
Speaker 3: we'll come back and talk to the man. You're listening
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Speaker 3: one hundred Court Street, Waynebox, Biller Dave Lap with my
Speaker 3: special guests. A baller helped the school win the state
Speaker 3: title in twenty fourteen to twenty sixteen. Also a four
Speaker 3: year letterman in basketball and at the US Army Bowl.
Speaker 4: He didn't just play defense, he.
Speaker 3: Jumped over on the other side on offense and played
Speaker 3: that as well.
Speaker 4: Our pleasant TJ.
Speaker 3: Slayton in the building, Lasier and seven.
Speaker 2: I'm glad.
Speaker 5: I mean, you know they say that linemen don't have skills,
Speaker 5: you know, I mean, can't play other sports.
Speaker 2: You've proven them wrong with that, man. I mean, I
Speaker 2: grew up in a very athletic household, digital new sisters
Speaker 2: who like manchut, my mom swim nchut. So really I
Speaker 2: figured I had to do something. But they took They
Speaker 2: put me in football pretty early.
Speaker 8: Uh.
Speaker 2: It wasn't my really my favorite thing to do at first,
Speaker 2: but I got kind of got used to it. Then
Speaker 2: I got into basketballs or they got fun. Then football
Speaker 2: came back around.
Speaker 3: And now where are you in the sibling hierarchy.
Speaker 4: You're the youngest middle okay, and you have sisters and
Speaker 4: brothers or no, just two older sisters.
Speaker 3: Okay, So now did they did they act like moms
Speaker 3: as well as as big sisters. Do they still act
Speaker 3: that way?
Speaker 12: Uh?
Speaker 2: Not really.
Speaker 3: My sister does, but she's the youngest sister, but she
Speaker 3: thinks he's the boss. Let's talk about what point did
Speaker 3: you realize that this football thing.
Speaker 4: Might be something you could you can make a career
Speaker 4: out of.
Speaker 2: I want to say, like, uh, probably like my junior
Speaker 2: year high school.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and you started getting offers or were you just
Speaker 3: playing well and dominating well?
Speaker 2: I was getting offers early on in school, like freshman year,
Speaker 2: but I felt like I started taking football seriously like
Speaker 2: my junior year high school.
Speaker 5: Okay, so who was the player that you watched elementary school, junior,
Speaker 5: high school, high school? As you're watching the NFL on television?
Speaker 5: Who is the player that flashed on the screen and
Speaker 5: you said, I want to play the game just like
Speaker 5: that guy.
Speaker 2: Uh, that's that's kind of like funny and interesting that
Speaker 2: you expect because like I really didn't have a really
Speaker 2: a guy that I was watching it because I wasn't
Speaker 2: really like into sports like that. Like I didn't really
Speaker 2: watch it on.
Speaker 5: TV more you weren't glued to the set. Uh.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was more just wanting to go out there
Speaker 2: and just go play, like instead of like watching it
Speaker 2: on TV. Once I got to high school, I started
Speaker 2: like watching some people. Then once I started getting more
Speaker 2: involved into it and get getting more seriously like me
Speaker 2: like with lifted weights for the first time and stuff
Speaker 2: like that. So like it kind of bought you know,
Speaker 2: bought on inspiration to go watch other people and see
Speaker 2: what they're doing.
Speaker 5: On the other side of it. Or who's the guy
Speaker 5: that you played against in the National Football League that
Speaker 5: when the game was over you said that dude was
Speaker 5: a player.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, it's been a couple.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 2: Frank rag Now was one of the big ones where
Speaker 2: after my rookie year, I was like, yeah, I gotta
Speaker 2: I gotta get better because these are the people on
Speaker 2: be facing. Uh. He was definitely one who put a
Speaker 2: stamp on my record year. Most definitely welcome to the league.
Speaker 2: Well not a welcome moment, just as in like this,
Speaker 2: this is what the league is about. You know what
Speaker 2: I'm saying. These are the type of guys that were
Speaker 2: facing you know and stuff like that. So I had
Speaker 2: to be able to, you know, take the next step
Speaker 2: in my game.
Speaker 3: Let's go back a second college because you ended up
Speaker 3: in Florida. But but who did it come down to?
Speaker 3: Was it clear cut Florida? Was it like, hey man,
Speaker 3: it's between two or three schools. But I ended up
Speaker 3: in Florida.
Speaker 2: Coming leaving the Army Bowl, I had got an offer
Speaker 2: from the University of Georgia. So it was between the
Speaker 2: University of Georgia and the University of Florida. But I
Speaker 2: actually I silent committed to the University of Florida at
Speaker 2: the Army Bowl game. But after that game, I still
Speaker 2: took an official visit to University of Georgia. So it
Speaker 2: really just came down to those two.
Speaker 4: And I always asked, you know, players, you know, each
Speaker 4: level there's a different requirement or a different ask of you,
Speaker 4: you know, mentally physically. What was the bigger challenge for
Speaker 4: you when you got to the college level in terms
Speaker 4: of what was required to play at that level, especially
Speaker 4: at the D one level of Florida.
Speaker 2: That sec Yeah, well it was. It was different because
Speaker 2: I played right tackle for four years in high school
Speaker 2: and then I only had like two years of defense
Speaker 2: really my junior and senior year when we played some
Speaker 2: of the the more of a running yes high school
Speaker 2: football teams. Uh, I got to play a little bit
Speaker 2: of defense, which I was already used to doing because, uh,
Speaker 2: from my background, like when I started playing football, I
Speaker 2: was a nose tackle, and then sixth grade is when
Speaker 2: like I got to do a little bit of right
Speaker 2: tackle offensive line stuff and then mostly playing defense. So
Speaker 2: I've always wanted to play defense. That's always what I've
Speaker 2: been attracted to. So but when I got to high school,
Speaker 2: spots wasn't available, so I had to go with it
Speaker 2: was available.
Speaker 3: I'll tell you this, I wanted to say, this is
Speaker 3: what I'm gonna tell you how I became a fan
Speaker 3: of your position.
Speaker 4: And the lap knows this name. When I said Ted Washington,
Speaker 4: there was a guy that played for the New England
Speaker 4: Patriots years ago named Big Big Ted Man. Ted was.
Speaker 3: He was so big and so good when they snapped
Speaker 3: the ball, Ted just did this the whole time. He
Speaker 3: was just holding two people right there and looking around
Speaker 3: to see And I've never seen a man that strong
Speaker 3: and that big just dominate and everybody's scraping.
Speaker 4: Off him and everybody's just getting but Lap, he just
Speaker 4: you couldn't move.
Speaker 5: Man.
Speaker 4: He was.
Speaker 5: He was an immovable object. He was the hub of it.
Speaker 5: Man he was. He was the cog in the wheel
Speaker 5: that made that thing go around. What player that you
Speaker 5: played against has been the one that you mentioned right now.
Speaker 5: So what coach had the biggest influence on your career
Speaker 5: as you were coming up through the ranks junior, high,
Speaker 5: high school, collegiate level. Is there a coach that was like,
Speaker 5: you could be great, and I'm going to help you
Speaker 5: be great. Here's what you need to do.
Speaker 2: I would really say I would have to give a
Speaker 2: lot of credit to my my high school o'larn coach.
Speaker 2: He had a big influence on my mental part and
Speaker 2: my approach to the game right just and then like
Speaker 2: basically like kind of laying out my future for me
Speaker 2: and like always giving me, you know, uplifting words too
Speaker 2: to better like, you know, my chances of getting to
Speaker 2: where I need to MOTI.
Speaker 4: That's beautiful, man. But so I got to ask.
Speaker 3: You you guys down there, man go to war. And
Speaker 3: somebody told me Tom Jackson used to be on ESPN,
Speaker 3: go play for dever Broncles. He said, Box, there's only
Speaker 3: X number of guys on every play that are engaged
Speaker 3: and violent contact and that's both sides of the ball.
Speaker 3: And it's it's I mean, is that for you? Like
Speaker 3: what you enjoy life?
Speaker 5: Man?
Speaker 4: It's just testing my strength on every play.
Speaker 2: Yeah, at some point, at some point, the violence of
Speaker 2: it does become fun.
Speaker 5: Uh.
Speaker 2: But at the end of the day, they can't put
Speaker 2: you in jail.
Speaker 5: They can't. So it's legal. It's all legal.
Speaker 2: But I feel like because of like how the game
Speaker 2: is today, because of all like the rule changes and
Speaker 2: everything that's going on, Like I feel like more how
Speaker 2: it is today is players are more involved than like,
Speaker 2: you know, doing the right thing, you know, being in
Speaker 2: the correct position. And uh, you know, we had like
Speaker 2: a saying in Green Bay, you just do your one
Speaker 2: a living like you know, you do your job to
Speaker 2: help your teammates, you know what I'm saying, instead of
Speaker 2: just how it's back in the day, it's like when
Speaker 2: you watch the family look man for themselves. Everybody trying
Speaker 2: to just get to the ball.
Speaker 5: Right. So the division, the AFC North, you're now too,
Speaker 5: and all in the division, you have the best record
Speaker 5: of any football team in the AFC North. What's it
Speaker 5: going to take to win the division when all of
Speaker 5: a sudden done.
Speaker 2: Uh, it's going to take good defense.
Speaker 5: It is just just division.
Speaker 2: Just to keep it like the short and simple. It's
Speaker 2: gonna take a good defense.
Speaker 12: Uh.
Speaker 2: Even though yes we we just beat Aaron, but we
Speaker 2: Lamar are still a great quarterback. That's a great team,
Speaker 2: football team. That's uh, that's they have a great head
Speaker 2: coach over there, you know. And then they have a
Speaker 2: lot of pieces, a lot of pieces, a lot of receivers.
Speaker 2: They got a running back, they got big o'roonman. Uh,
Speaker 2: they got a good they got a great defensive line.
Speaker 2: So it's gonna be a lot that we're gonna have
Speaker 2: to bring to that game.
Speaker 3: You know, when when you think about where you're from Plantation, Florida,
Speaker 3: and that that that footprint down. Yeah for a lot
Speaker 3: of man so many players come up out of that
Speaker 3: area that that are in the NFL.
Speaker 4: What what is it about that area? Is it just
Speaker 4: football year round? Is it competition or it's hot you
Speaker 4: got to get after it's hot.
Speaker 2: I don't know community. Yeah, that's what I'm saying, Like,
Speaker 2: I don't know what the percentages are, yeah, of why
Speaker 2: players come out of more of the hotter places. Yeah,
Speaker 2: but since it's my you know, my four years in
Speaker 2: the league, I've heard a lot of New Jersey. I've
Speaker 2: heard a lot of Cali, Texas. Maybe I've heard from Texas.
Speaker 16: Uh.
Speaker 2: And I heard a lot of Georgia. Yeah, just not
Speaker 2: the University.
Speaker 4: Of Georgia, but just from the state of Georgia.
Speaker 2: But it's just like the hot places. I don't know
Speaker 2: what the statistics are, but the hot places is what's
Speaker 2: you know, is what people are just recruiting.
Speaker 3: Right just because I'm I'm a Michigan football fan, and
Speaker 3: you'll see guys from from Florida up in Michigan, or
Speaker 3: you see somebody in California, USC from Florida.
Speaker 5: That's a long way from home.
Speaker 3: Even though Shamar, you know, he went to Texas, A
Speaker 3: and M and he's from Miami, so you know, he's
Speaker 3: down the bottom and he's all the way.
Speaker 4: Out there in Texas. But there's something to be said
Speaker 4: about that.
Speaker 2: But that's what that just like, I don't know why
Speaker 2: it's like that. It's just I don't know if it's
Speaker 2: it's just like the humidity or the athletics ism, like,
Speaker 2: it's just that is what it is. No matter what
Speaker 2: division ie college school you're looking at or what conference,
Speaker 2: there's always gonna be a guy from Florida.
Speaker 5: So what what what player that you played against, be
Speaker 5: a junior, high, high school, or collegiate or National Football
Speaker 5: League level, was a lowe, was a stud was like
Speaker 5: man at the end of the games, like, I'm sure, man,
Speaker 5: this dude, that was a heck of a battle.
Speaker 2: I played a couple of I played a couple of
Speaker 2: guys who were extremely good in uh high school, Like
Speaker 2: I had had a battle with Nick Bosa, uh Huh.
Speaker 2: I had to play a very good college football player
Speaker 2: Jacopolite in high school. Uh. I had to play Chase Young.
Speaker 2: Uh I forgot who I forgot the other guy who
Speaker 2: was on the other side of him, who were some
Speaker 2: other guys?
Speaker 4: Think you got tested, that's for sure.
Speaker 2: Right yeah, But that's because like we were just like
Speaker 2: a good high school and we used to have like
Speaker 2: good like opening games to the city. So, yeah, did.
Speaker 5: You do a lot of traveling one of those schools,
Speaker 5: Like would you come to Ohio and play Molar if
Speaker 5: they called or whatever?
Speaker 2: See, my high school didn't for some reason. We didn't
Speaker 2: want to travel that much. So like all of the
Speaker 2: schools that came to us, like we had to play
Speaker 2: like Don Bosco Jersey, the Mathas were Chase Young Win
Speaker 2: So those were all like like the pre kickoff season
Speaker 2: of games that was like on TV. They probably yeah,
Speaker 2: they always tried to us, like you know, but you
Speaker 2: gotta think about it, Like the Matha and Don Bosco,
Speaker 2: those are like cold please. I was just saying, they
Speaker 2: probably want to get them kids out of it like that, right,
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you put me down there too. Let's take every
Speaker 3: book come back. We're talking to t J.
Speaker 4: Slaton.
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Speaker 4: Slaton joined us. Brother, Thank you so much man for
Speaker 4: hanging out with us. Pull that down for you.
Speaker 3: You know, I always say you got one of those
Speaker 3: personalities in the locker room that's infectious. And uh you
Speaker 3: know something you did, man, when you talk about leadership
Speaker 3: and guys that that know what this is. I was
Speaker 3: interviewing one of the young guys and uh I said
Speaker 3: something to him a cam sample. Yeah, and I did
Speaker 3: my uh I do my thing called the gratitude game.
Speaker 4: It's like one person.
Speaker 3: Are three people, you're grateful for, two things you're hopeful for,
Speaker 3: and you know the one thing you wish for. And
Speaker 3: he said to get to super Bowl. Something you said
Speaker 3: no to win the Super Bowl. And it was what
Speaker 3: a mindset is about.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 3: It's like, man, you got to think about not getting
Speaker 3: there but winning that and getting that there. Where did
Speaker 3: that positive and that focus come from?
Speaker 4: You.
Speaker 3: Was there somebody along the way to kind of say,
Speaker 3: hey man, you gotta think like this.
Speaker 2: I think I would probably say probably Kenny Clerk. I
Speaker 2: remember it was my it was my rookie year. We
Speaker 2: went thirteen to three.
Speaker 5: Wow.
Speaker 2: And we had the first round by and we lost
Speaker 2: by field though, And that the whole first the whole
Speaker 2: first round, the whole while car around. There were three
Speaker 2: there were three to four games won by a field goal.
Speaker 5: Wow.
Speaker 2: And literally I was telling myself that whole week that
Speaker 2: I don't want to be a team that wins that
Speaker 2: loses by a field goal, because it's like it's the
Speaker 2: most annoying waiver to lose it's by a field goal,
Speaker 2: because it's like it's one of the hardest things to stop.
Speaker 2: So and then we had a mishap right before halftime
Speaker 2: and they scored. They recovered, they blocked our punt and
Speaker 2: recovered the ball and then kicked the field goal, and
Speaker 2: then we going to halftime. And then I think that
Speaker 2: game was I think the game score was like, uh,
Speaker 2: like it was like nine, like six. It was like
Speaker 2: a weird like game. So it was a hard game.
Speaker 2: And then at the end of the game I went
Speaker 2: out onto the field to you know, to shake hands
Speaker 2: with everybody. And I look out the left corner of
Speaker 2: my I mean the right corner of my eye, and
Speaker 2: I see case he's just running into the locker room.
Speaker 2: So I go straight into the locker room after him,
Speaker 2: and I'm like, and I asked him in the hallway,
Speaker 2: I'm like, what's up, Like you know why you didn't
Speaker 2: shake hands? He was just like he was like that's like,
Speaker 2: he was like, it's about sportsmanship. But at the same time,
Speaker 2: like we're trying to get somewhere, and like this is
Speaker 2: a playoff game, so the feeling is different. It's like
Speaker 2: it's harder to to congratulate the other team that just
Speaker 2: stopped you and the point of winning the Super Bowl
Speaker 2: or getting your chance to get to the dance, so
Speaker 2: like it's a different connect It's like and then it
Speaker 2: made me think and realized, like, Okay, we are in
Speaker 2: the NFL. We are playing this game, but it's not
Speaker 2: for a long a long time. So like, if you
Speaker 2: want to win the super Bowl, you got to win
Speaker 2: the Super Bowl.
Speaker 3: Now, you gotta win the super Bowl.
Speaker 2: So it wasn't that like he was being disrespectful to
Speaker 2: the other team. It was just like I'm more disappointed
Speaker 2: that we lost and and what I did that is
Speaker 2: like it's taken over to the point that like I
Speaker 2: can't be like, are you what I'm saying exactly? Like, yeah, So.
Speaker 5: What coach at the any level, elementary school, junior, high school,
Speaker 5: high school, college, NFL had the biggest impact on teaching you,
Speaker 5: not necessarily just your football coach, but you played basketball,
Speaker 5: and I don't know how much baseball you played, but
Speaker 5: I've played a bunch of sports, and you know at
Speaker 5: those levels, be it football, basketball, baseball, shot put, discuss whatever.
Speaker 2: Wrestling.
Speaker 5: Uh I bet you would have been a hell of
Speaker 5: wrestled you wrestling?
Speaker 2: Uh No, they wouldn't.
Speaker 5: Would I can believe that what what coach had had
Speaker 5: the biggest impact on you?
Speaker 2: Uh my already I wouldn't said my high school coach.
Speaker 2: When I got to college. I want to say my
Speaker 2: freshman year. I had three different D line coaches at college,
Speaker 2: but my freshman year of college coach he definitely like
Speaker 2: like like his instead of making me a football player,
Speaker 2: like he wanted to make me a football player and
Speaker 2: a man at the same time. So like before meetings
Speaker 2: and stuff like that, he would have like we would
Speaker 2: have like open floor conversations like about like family and
Speaker 2: then like like money and like you know, like you know,
Speaker 2: signing off on a car or like anything to do
Speaker 2: with like a house. Like he just wanted to make
Speaker 2: sure like we were doing like the correct things or
Speaker 2: at least had the had thoughts or even just had
Speaker 2: the conversations to like even have those thoughts in the
Speaker 2: future to to better you know, better equipped ourselves on
Speaker 2: the field and off.
Speaker 3: I love that guy. I don't even know who he is,
Speaker 3: but Chris Rump. Yeah, all right, let's take a break.
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Speaker 4: Wayne Box, Miller, Dave Lapham, t J.
Speaker 3: Slaton Man, thank you so much for hanging out with
Speaker 3: us and the Bengal fans.
Speaker 4: And I got to ask you the NFL moment I like.
Speaker 3: To ask guys about is the first time and this
Speaker 3: is in Green Bay obviously because they drafted you the
Speaker 3: first time you go out on that field in that
Speaker 3: uniform and you say, man, I'm in the NFL.
Speaker 4: What was that like for you? That smile jumped on
Speaker 4: your face.
Speaker 2: Man, that was crazy. H It was my first preseason
Speaker 2: game against the Houston Texas. Yeah, Like we practiced in
Speaker 2: the stadium before that, we had a joint practice in there.
Speaker 2: But it wasn't the same like the next day, like
Speaker 2: all the fans and everything, and like I was literally
Speaker 2: standing out there, like standing in the tunnel and I
Speaker 2: was just like I literally said that like like oh
Speaker 2: my god, I'm in the NFL, and then running out
Speaker 2: and then like the smoke and everything else. It was
Speaker 2: fun talk.
Speaker 4: About your family and sharing that. If you were able
Speaker 4: to share that opening game with your family, what it.
Speaker 2: Was like, Oh that was cool. You know, that was
Speaker 2: fun having my family there, my mom and my sisters. Uh.
Speaker 2: It was just like more of one of those like
Speaker 2: like kind of like like we.
Speaker 5: Here, you know what I'm saying, Like, Yeah, it.
Speaker 2: Was more like it was more like a flash type
Speaker 2: of moment, like when I would be sitting down like
Speaker 2: at home, like watching the games on TV and then
Speaker 2: now I'm back to playing one so it was just
Speaker 2: like that beautiful, like that moment in my head. It
Speaker 2: was just like seeing myself sitting in front of the
Speaker 2: TV and then it going away and then seeing myself
Speaker 2: standing in the tunnel. So it was like that was cool.
Speaker 5: That is cool, all right? So I hope this is
Speaker 5: at least a decade away. But when you're done playing
Speaker 5: football in the National Football League, would you want to
Speaker 5: coach or would you want to get into some other profession?
Speaker 2: I don't know. I might be one of them. I'll
Speaker 2: be I might be on one of them. Thirty seven
Speaker 2: you team, It might be on one thirty seven.
Speaker 5: I love it, love it.
Speaker 4: Talk about you've got some you got some years under
Speaker 4: your belt. Now, it's funny. Has it gone fast?
Speaker 2: Few?
Speaker 3: Because guys say, all of a sudden, one minute your rookie,
Speaker 3: the next minue you got five years in Nah, not
Speaker 3: at all.
Speaker 2: You live every day, every meeting, every practice. It does
Speaker 2: not go by fast. I ain't gonna lie. Like when
Speaker 2: you're winning, Yeah, when you're winning the week's team to
Speaker 2: go by fast. But when you're like having an up
Speaker 2: and down season or you have a like kind of
Speaker 2: like a slow start, heavy, every days get longer, they
Speaker 2: feel like hours take forever to go by.
Speaker 4: Wow.
Speaker 5: Yes, yeah, So whereabouts you stay? Are you a northern
Speaker 5: Kentucky guy? Are you over the river by the stadiums.
Speaker 2: I'm in Mount Lookout Point? Oh okay, yeah, yeah, you know.
Speaker 3: Far from work. I'm a matter of fact, I was
Speaker 3: looking at that because I dropped my bracelet.
Speaker 2: I don't know if you found that way.
Speaker 4: You know, I didn't know you had it.
Speaker 3: They said somebody was going to bring it home right,
Speaker 3: very bright and shiny.
Speaker 4: Man, you know I had it right. I don't know
Speaker 4: what happened to get the class fixed on that.
Speaker 3: TJ talk about mentorship in some respects because you have
Speaker 3: some young guys on the D line and you guys
Speaker 3: observe a very close knit group. What are some of
Speaker 3: the things you just try to tell the first second
Speaker 3: year guys about this league and this game and the
Speaker 3: business of it.
Speaker 2: All, just you know, just trying to tell them to
Speaker 2: find a routine that like, you know that suits then come,
Speaker 2: you know, come in a little earlier, like maybe thirty
Speaker 2: minutes or sometimes if it has to be an hour
Speaker 2: to get it in a little early. You know, get
Speaker 2: your body right. If you're a scratch guy, you know,
Speaker 2: get up, come in you know, scratch. If you're a
Speaker 2: tough guy, come get in the tub. You know, little
Speaker 2: things like that.
Speaker 16: You know.
Speaker 2: They always come to me, you know and ask me
Speaker 2: little things that that can help them, you know, contribute
Speaker 2: to that game, or like ask me questions like Okay,
Speaker 2: in this situation, what would you do? Yeah, and just
Speaker 2: like like you know me personally, I don't really look
Speaker 2: at it as like a leader thing. I really just
Speaker 2: look at it as just somebody looking for information and
Speaker 2: I have, you know, just giving it out.
Speaker 4: So he'll like that.
Speaker 2: Nah, But Kenley tries to sneak it and every now
Speaker 2: like they be like, man, you know, I'm on your two,
Speaker 2: you on five. I was like, yeah, you on your two,
Speaker 2: I'm on your five. I'm just still just just as
Speaker 2: young as you are. Just two years ago, I was
Speaker 2: on year two. Like I've been in the same boat,
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. So, but yeah, man, it's
Speaker 2: it's always cool. It's fun to go in with you guys.
Speaker 3: Yeah, here's a question that I think you you know,
Speaker 3: you've been around ballers and green Man. You come here
Speaker 3: and you see a guy like Joe Burrow, Joe Flacco.
Speaker 3: These guys are just they're different, man, and and talk
Speaker 3: about just that.
Speaker 4: If back to these guys, have you just kind of
Speaker 4: know it, don't.
Speaker 2: You when you Yeah, Like I was just telling so
Speaker 2: I was telling Chris Jenkins in the game, I looked
Speaker 2: to the sideline and uh, Jamo is telling us to
Speaker 2: watch listen for hard count. And I'm telling Chris, I'm like,
Speaker 2: listen for the hard count because you don't want us
Speaker 2: to get you. Don't want him to get you. Trying
Speaker 2: to tell you don't want him to get you. He
Speaker 2: got eighteen toes now passes off hard counts and then
Speaker 2: like his he has one of the best hard counts,
Speaker 2: like ever, Like when I was in Green Bay, he
Speaker 2: got us, he went on six, Like he went on
Speaker 2: six in a practice, he went on six. And then
Speaker 2: in one practice, I think he got us four times
Speaker 2: in one practice one practice.
Speaker 4: I know the coaches weren't happy.
Speaker 2: That is real. But then like playing with a guy
Speaker 2: like Joe, it's just I think it's just like fun,
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying, Like playing with a guy
Speaker 2: or just of his caliber. Uh, just playing with the
Speaker 2: guys like who has so much poise, who's just as
Speaker 2: calm as he is.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: Uh, he just but he also like has like that
Speaker 2: that or like energy to him, you know what I'm saying. So,
Speaker 2: but you know I played Joe three times in college.
Speaker 4: There.
Speaker 2: Yeah, his but his his year was deaf me, like
Speaker 2: the undefeated year they had, going up there to the
Speaker 2: valley to play him. Him walking in the game and
Speaker 2: leaving the same way he came in, Like it was
Speaker 2: like crazy. And then you know, go to the draft,
Speaker 2: get drafted, come to Cincinnatti and then my first half
Speaker 2: a sack is on Joe.
Speaker 5: That show you're h You mentioned the word fun. When
Speaker 5: the game's not fun anymore? Time to get out, you
Speaker 5: know what I mean. It's it's it's like, all right,
Speaker 5: well now football, I mean it's a game, but it
Speaker 5: can't become a chore.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 5: It's like, uh, what would you when you do get
Speaker 5: out of football? When football is done? What do you
Speaker 5: want to do? What would you would you would would
Speaker 5: you get into another profession? What would you do?
Speaker 2: I really haven't thought a rot getting into coaching as
Speaker 2: far as like another profession, Like I don't I haven't
Speaker 2: really gave it him much thought.
Speaker 4: Left they got a lot of years left.
Speaker 3: Let's get this last break in and we'll come back
Speaker 3: and wrap up with TJ.
Speaker 4: Slayton to get him about here. Thank you for being
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Speaker 3: Wayne Box, Miller, Dave Lap I'm TJ.
Speaker 4: Slayton Man. Thank you so much for hanging out with us.
Speaker 3: I appreciate you and uh just a joy I've ever
Speaker 3: since you got here. I remember meeting you and you
Speaker 3: just have that infectious personality. And one of the things
Speaker 3: that I wanted to ask you was does that come
Speaker 3: Is that something that your mom has or something you
Speaker 3: developed your sister's Where did that personality come from?
Speaker 2: I want to say it's probably a blend between my
Speaker 2: mom and my dad. Yeah, yeah, they both got like
Speaker 2: kind of big personalities.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Because you're you're smooth, with it like I watch
Speaker 3: it like I'm gonna be this way, but I can
Speaker 3: be this way too, you know.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you adjust, as they say pivot.
Speaker 2: I mean I'm more of a like acquired and I'm
Speaker 2: more of a like to my to myself type of person. Uh,
Speaker 2: but I mean I could also be like outgoing to
Speaker 2: h due to like certain conversations or probably like environments.
Speaker 5: You have a lot of leadership traits. I mean, there
Speaker 5: are a lot of players in this roster, in that
Speaker 5: locker room that have leadership traits. They've done a great
Speaker 5: job of finding people that are high character, high fiber
Speaker 5: type individuals. How strong are the personalities on this football team?
Speaker 2: Oh we got a blanch man, you know, especially just
Speaker 2: on the D line. Yeah, you got Crazy, got DJ
Speaker 2: like to you know, outgoing, outspoken people, uh Trade obviously
Speaker 2: a very demanding person. You got Logan, you got Cam
Speaker 2: Taylor brit who's very outgoing energy. Uh JB's uh crazy guy,
Speaker 2: bounces off the walls all over the uh DJ turners
Speaker 2: another like crazy guy.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So we got a bunch of uh different personalities on
Speaker 2: this D line. And but but at the end of
Speaker 2: the day, it's all high energy guys. So like, that's
Speaker 2: what that's what you really want around. You want somebody
Speaker 2: who can always change the atmosphere and the energy of
Speaker 2: the room. Rather it's like, you know, funny or even
Speaker 2: if we're going to feeling that you can play.
Speaker 4: Well, let me ask you this as we wrap up here.
Speaker 3: I always ask players this because so many times people
Speaker 3: in the car riding listening and your kids have aspirations.
Speaker 3: What would you say to a young man or who.
Speaker 4: Has a desire to one day play in the NFL
Speaker 4: or at the younger part of it's like, what advice
Speaker 4: would you give him? Uh?
Speaker 2: Definitely, just trust the process, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 2: Trust your process, work hard. Like things. There are things
Speaker 2: that you are going to notice that you have to force,
Speaker 2: and there are things that you are going to notice
Speaker 2: that you just have to let you know, let do
Speaker 2: what they are, you know what I'm saying. So I
Speaker 2: know everybody always be like, oh, you know, tell them
Speaker 2: to stay in school and get good grades. It's like,
Speaker 2: but when it comes to this like this at the
Speaker 2: end of the day, like you said, this is a game,
Speaker 2: but this is also like a skill in the craft
Speaker 2: that you can work on so long as you just
Speaker 2: stay focused on your skill and your craft and have
Speaker 2: a good mindset. Like this game and what it can
Speaker 2: provide and change life, no.
Speaker 3: Question, ladis and tell them let's give it up a
Speaker 3: TJ slaty s. Thank you all for joining us. We'll
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