1 00:00:00,640 --> 00:00:01,400 Speaker 1: Now now Pete. 2 00:00:01,480 --> 00:00:05,520 Speaker 2: Other than the final quarter at Chicago, the Bengals game, 3 00:00:05,960 --> 00:00:10,320 Speaker 2: and the Addison drive in London, why is consistency and 4 00:00:10,400 --> 00:00:15,160 Speaker 2: float fluidity so hard for the Minnesota Vikings offense to 5 00:00:15,200 --> 00:00:15,920 Speaker 2: attain this year? 6 00:00:15,920 --> 00:00:16,480 Speaker 1: In good morning? 7 00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:21,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, good morning, Yeah. I mean that's that's the that's 8 00:00:21,320 --> 00:00:25,680 Speaker 3: a million dollar question. I mean, part of it is 9 00:00:26,079 --> 00:00:28,960 Speaker 3: maybe it's the fourteenth Is it the fourteenth iteration of 10 00:00:29,000 --> 00:00:30,800 Speaker 3: the offensive line that we've gone through? 11 00:00:30,960 --> 00:00:32,159 Speaker 1: Fifteenth pressure day. 12 00:00:32,600 --> 00:00:35,239 Speaker 3: Fifteenth Yeah, Addison was in Addison was that We've had 13 00:00:35,280 --> 00:00:36,920 Speaker 3: a lot of a lot of flux, a lot of 14 00:00:37,040 --> 00:00:42,519 Speaker 3: changes offensively. You know, you can make I don't know 15 00:00:42,560 --> 00:00:45,720 Speaker 3: if you want to make excuses or what, but man, 16 00:00:46,080 --> 00:00:49,360 Speaker 3: it's the timing of a lot of these mistakes have 17 00:00:49,440 --> 00:00:53,239 Speaker 3: been have been killers too, and a lot of them 18 00:00:53,280 --> 00:00:56,480 Speaker 3: have occurred in the red zone over the last you know, 19 00:00:56,680 --> 00:01:03,040 Speaker 3: so far this season. Exactly why that is, I don't know. 20 00:01:02,680 --> 00:01:04,680 Speaker 3: I think you have to be closer to the team 21 00:01:04,720 --> 00:01:07,080 Speaker 3: and be part of it to really to know exactly 22 00:01:07,319 --> 00:01:10,920 Speaker 3: why those things are. But you know, the turnovers have 23 00:01:11,000 --> 00:01:15,080 Speaker 3: been have been big too. Fumbling was seemed to be 24 00:01:15,120 --> 00:01:18,240 Speaker 3: the problem, you know yesterday obviously it was you know, 25 00:01:18,319 --> 00:01:22,520 Speaker 3: two interceptions, but being minus six, PAULI like you brought 26 00:01:22,520 --> 00:01:25,600 Speaker 3: that up a number of times during the broadcast yesterday. 27 00:01:26,200 --> 00:01:28,960 Speaker 3: Those are you know, you're high on You're high on 28 00:01:29,040 --> 00:01:31,440 Speaker 3: the penalty side as far as total penalties at least 29 00:01:31,440 --> 00:01:34,399 Speaker 3: going into the game. You know you're you're in the 30 00:01:34,440 --> 00:01:39,520 Speaker 3: minus column overall at minus six. You look at where 31 00:01:39,560 --> 00:01:42,760 Speaker 3: those interception in turnal numbers were a year ago compared 32 00:01:42,760 --> 00:01:46,080 Speaker 3: to you know, to this year. That explains, you know, 33 00:01:46,120 --> 00:01:48,880 Speaker 3: that explains quite a bit. I mean, we're we're we're 34 00:01:48,920 --> 00:01:50,760 Speaker 3: seeing it played by play by play, but when you 35 00:01:50,800 --> 00:01:52,800 Speaker 3: take a step back and you look at those things, 36 00:01:53,320 --> 00:01:57,480 Speaker 3: those you know, those numbers are telling part of the 37 00:01:57,520 --> 00:02:03,720 Speaker 3: story as well. So I'm will until we stopped being 38 00:02:03,720 --> 00:02:07,560 Speaker 3: our own worst enemy. You know, these games are going 39 00:02:07,640 --> 00:02:10,720 Speaker 3: to be close, and these teams are going to maybe 40 00:02:10,880 --> 00:02:12,639 Speaker 3: you know, not go our way or go our way 41 00:02:12,680 --> 00:02:13,560 Speaker 3: only half the time. 42 00:02:14,080 --> 00:02:18,720 Speaker 2: Uh Isaiah Rodgers. They attacked their former teammate yesterday. And 43 00:02:18,960 --> 00:02:21,239 Speaker 2: some can say put him on a bad game, some 44 00:02:21,280 --> 00:02:23,760 Speaker 2: can say put him on a mediocre game. Doesn't matter 45 00:02:23,800 --> 00:02:27,160 Speaker 2: to me it. Nevertheless, the team, uh as a whole, 46 00:02:27,240 --> 00:02:30,720 Speaker 2: did not win. But nevertheless, why did that happen? They 47 00:02:30,800 --> 00:02:32,680 Speaker 2: went at their former teammate and they were. 48 00:02:32,680 --> 00:02:38,160 Speaker 3: Right, yeah, the you know, the the DeVante Smith touchdown. 49 00:02:38,240 --> 00:02:41,880 Speaker 3: Paul I got to see that. I want to. I 50 00:02:41,880 --> 00:02:43,480 Speaker 3: gotta go in and see it again, as much as 51 00:02:43,520 --> 00:02:45,960 Speaker 3: it's going to pay pay to pay me to see it. 52 00:02:47,480 --> 00:02:49,919 Speaker 3: But again, it was a I don't know the what 53 00:02:49,960 --> 00:02:53,160 Speaker 3: they what the idea was coverage wise, and whether or 54 00:02:53,160 --> 00:02:56,320 Speaker 3: not THEO Jackson should have been involved at all, because 55 00:02:56,639 --> 00:03:02,000 Speaker 3: it appeared like that it appeared that Isaiah Rodgers had 56 00:03:02,040 --> 00:03:04,839 Speaker 3: no help zero right, He didn't have any help toward 57 00:03:04,880 --> 00:03:06,519 Speaker 3: the middle of the field because the ball was, let 58 00:03:06,600 --> 00:03:08,200 Speaker 3: you know, was throwing more toward the middle of the 59 00:03:08,200 --> 00:03:12,280 Speaker 3: field where normally you would have a free safety or 60 00:03:13,360 --> 00:03:17,600 Speaker 3: somebody else there to help with that, and he looked 61 00:03:17,600 --> 00:03:17,919 Speaker 3: like he. 62 00:03:17,919 --> 00:03:18,639 Speaker 1: Was on an island. 63 00:03:18,680 --> 00:03:21,040 Speaker 3: And it didn't appear to be a zero blitz either, 64 00:03:21,360 --> 00:03:23,680 Speaker 3: although we did have six or I think six guys 65 00:03:23,680 --> 00:03:26,360 Speaker 3: with the line of scrimmage, so I don't know what 66 00:03:26,680 --> 00:03:30,119 Speaker 3: happened there, but looking at it, something wasn't right. 67 00:03:30,200 --> 00:03:32,800 Speaker 1: Now I'm looking at it now. 68 00:03:33,480 --> 00:03:38,720 Speaker 2: They rushed five Harrison Hitman threatened an a gap blitz, 69 00:03:38,880 --> 00:03:43,080 Speaker 2: then he backed off. So now about thirty five yards 70 00:03:43,080 --> 00:03:46,880 Speaker 2: from the line of scrimmage, Hurts per usual, bouncing around 71 00:03:46,920 --> 00:03:48,200 Speaker 2: with nobody close to him. 72 00:03:48,400 --> 00:03:52,600 Speaker 1: That factors into it too. He ses Smith. 73 00:03:52,480 --> 00:03:55,640 Speaker 2: And a Davante man, I mean when you watch this, 74 00:03:55,760 --> 00:03:58,040 Speaker 2: you just got to tip your cap to him. He 75 00:03:58,320 --> 00:04:01,760 Speaker 2: darted to the left all right, which would be by 76 00:04:01,800 --> 00:04:04,320 Speaker 2: the bench, and then went right back to the right. 77 00:04:04,680 --> 00:04:07,680 Speaker 2: He got Rogers to turn the wrong way and then 78 00:04:07,800 --> 00:04:09,600 Speaker 2: just put that four four in play and the game 79 00:04:09,720 --> 00:04:09,960 Speaker 2: was over. 80 00:04:10,160 --> 00:04:12,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, put the double move on him. And that's that's 81 00:04:12,960 --> 00:04:17,520 Speaker 3: what That's the same thing that aj Brown did on that, 82 00:04:17,839 --> 00:04:19,760 Speaker 3: you know, the third down play right at the end 83 00:04:19,760 --> 00:04:22,520 Speaker 3: of the game. That was a yeah, we're we're gonna 84 00:04:22,520 --> 00:04:26,080 Speaker 3: get a zero blitz here. Uh Jalhen Hurts was never 85 00:04:26,080 --> 00:04:27,560 Speaker 3: going to set his feet. He was just going to 86 00:04:27,640 --> 00:04:30,240 Speaker 3: backpedal and throw throw a fade. He was going to 87 00:04:30,279 --> 00:04:31,760 Speaker 3: put a double move on him. We were, you know, 88 00:04:31,800 --> 00:04:34,360 Speaker 3: we were trying to prevent them from getting the first down. 89 00:04:34,480 --> 00:04:37,240 Speaker 3: So when he zero blitz, you can't give up a 90 00:04:37,240 --> 00:04:39,920 Speaker 3: first down. You're going to be jumping the slant right, 91 00:04:40,120 --> 00:04:42,720 Speaker 3: and they ran a slant and go and think about 92 00:04:42,839 --> 00:04:45,960 Speaker 3: I mean, think about that playball. We we they threw 93 00:04:46,000 --> 00:04:48,640 Speaker 3: a play too. Was a player too before and stop 94 00:04:48,720 --> 00:04:51,080 Speaker 3: the clock and you're thinking, my god, are they're going 95 00:04:51,160 --> 00:04:53,840 Speaker 3: to throw the ball again? And if it's incomplete, they 96 00:04:53,839 --> 00:04:55,880 Speaker 3: stopped the clock again, and we don't have to use 97 00:04:55,880 --> 00:04:59,440 Speaker 3: a time out. I mean, that's a that's a gutsy call. Uh, 98 00:04:59,520 --> 00:05:02,880 Speaker 3: and they it and they executed it. So you know 99 00:05:03,040 --> 00:05:05,280 Speaker 3: that's uh, you don't have tip to them, I guess 100 00:05:05,279 --> 00:05:09,720 Speaker 3: in that regard because so say that they systemically won 101 00:05:09,800 --> 00:05:15,560 Speaker 3: after Isaiah Rodgers, I don't necessarily I don't agree. I mean, again, 102 00:05:15,720 --> 00:05:17,400 Speaker 3: only how many times did they throw the football? 103 00:05:17,520 --> 00:05:17,719 Speaker 1: Right? 104 00:05:17,880 --> 00:05:21,520 Speaker 3: Thirteen times? I mean maybe sixteen. They didn't even throw 105 00:05:21,520 --> 00:05:26,240 Speaker 3: the ball that much. Yeah, And so I don't necessarily 106 00:05:26,320 --> 00:05:32,640 Speaker 3: think that, you know, that's that's necessarily the case. Eighteen completions. 107 00:05:32,680 --> 00:05:35,880 Speaker 2: You got me down the rabbit hole on this play, 108 00:05:36,200 --> 00:05:39,280 Speaker 2: all right, this DeVante Smith double move at the forty 109 00:05:39,360 --> 00:05:42,320 Speaker 2: All right, now, that's you know, okay, Isaiah if the 110 00:05:42,520 --> 00:05:44,839 Speaker 2: if the technique is ten of ten and I ain't 111 00:05:44,839 --> 00:05:46,720 Speaker 2: trying to be Georgia o' larry here, and you know, 112 00:05:46,720 --> 00:05:49,599 Speaker 2: pretend like I know technique inside now, I just know 113 00:05:49,680 --> 00:05:51,960 Speaker 2: I haven't seen Isaiah Rodgers do this at any point 114 00:05:52,000 --> 00:05:54,719 Speaker 2: this year. And DeVante Smith kind of handled him on 115 00:05:54,760 --> 00:05:56,640 Speaker 2: this double move at the forty and there he goes 116 00:05:56,640 --> 00:06:00,560 Speaker 2: for seventy nine. THEO Jackson is middle of the field 117 00:06:00,560 --> 00:06:03,919 Speaker 2: between the hash marks. He's right behind AJ Brown and 118 00:06:03,960 --> 00:06:06,440 Speaker 2: he's in a perfect spot because there are two guys 119 00:06:06,480 --> 00:06:09,680 Speaker 2: in front of AJ between the hash marks. Jalen's going 120 00:06:09,720 --> 00:06:12,039 Speaker 2: to see that. He's like, I ain't taking that cheese. 121 00:06:12,080 --> 00:06:15,000 Speaker 2: It might get picked off. And THEO had the the 122 00:06:15,040 --> 00:06:18,760 Speaker 2: Angel on the shoulder, over the top coverage on AJ 123 00:06:18,960 --> 00:06:21,919 Speaker 2: middle of the field, and then he went busting tail 124 00:06:22,440 --> 00:06:24,560 Speaker 2: to help on DeVante, but it was too late. 125 00:06:24,640 --> 00:06:26,920 Speaker 1: So yeah, I see what you saw there. 126 00:06:26,960 --> 00:06:29,919 Speaker 3: But again it's oh, you have five man If you 127 00:06:30,200 --> 00:06:32,120 Speaker 3: have a five man rush, you're going to be short 128 00:06:32,240 --> 00:06:35,040 Speaker 3: a guy in the back end. Right, You're going to 129 00:06:35,080 --> 00:06:37,600 Speaker 3: be short somebody back in the back end. So if 130 00:06:37,640 --> 00:06:40,240 Speaker 3: you're losing somebody and coverage, the rush needs to get there, 131 00:06:40,600 --> 00:06:44,400 Speaker 3: and it didn't. So that's kind of that's kind of like, 132 00:06:45,120 --> 00:06:48,160 Speaker 3: you know, there's a number of different things that happened 133 00:06:48,200 --> 00:06:50,360 Speaker 3: on that play. It's not just one guy. It's not 134 00:06:50,440 --> 00:06:52,839 Speaker 3: just one thing. It's it's it's a it's a number 135 00:06:52,960 --> 00:06:54,080 Speaker 3: of different things. 136 00:06:54,640 --> 00:06:55,000 Speaker 4: Uh. 137 00:06:55,200 --> 00:06:57,320 Speaker 5: Speaking of a number of different things. A lot of 138 00:06:57,360 --> 00:07:00,840 Speaker 5: things factor into creating turnovers. Right, Kings tied to top 139 00:07:00,920 --> 00:07:03,000 Speaker 5: the NFL a year ago. They were really really good 140 00:07:03,080 --> 00:07:06,400 Speaker 5: at it or were they just opportunistic because I don't 141 00:07:06,440 --> 00:07:07,560 Speaker 5: know what you've been seeing, Pete. 142 00:07:07,920 --> 00:07:08,040 Speaker 1: Uh. 143 00:07:08,120 --> 00:07:10,560 Speaker 5: They get one apiece in the Bears and Falcons game, 144 00:07:10,640 --> 00:07:13,520 Speaker 5: then it's a buffet against the Bengals. Five takes in 145 00:07:13,560 --> 00:07:18,160 Speaker 5: the historically unbelievable game by Isaiah Rodgers. What is your 146 00:07:18,240 --> 00:07:20,720 Speaker 5: level of concern with the fact that the defense has 147 00:07:20,760 --> 00:07:24,560 Speaker 5: created zero turnovers in three consecutive games. 148 00:07:26,720 --> 00:07:30,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, it had. It's the weirdest thing that it kind 149 00:07:30,560 --> 00:07:33,320 Speaker 3: of comes in waves. It comes in waves like that. 150 00:07:34,960 --> 00:07:38,520 Speaker 3: And as far as the you know, the forced fumbles 151 00:07:38,560 --> 00:07:43,200 Speaker 3: go uh you know, point of emphasis getting more than 152 00:07:43,240 --> 00:07:45,960 Speaker 3: one guy to the football, we had some. You know, 153 00:07:46,040 --> 00:07:49,000 Speaker 3: we play Cleveland, you have some big runs and you know, 154 00:07:49,520 --> 00:07:51,760 Speaker 3: when you're chasing guys down from behind and doing that, 155 00:07:51,880 --> 00:07:54,880 Speaker 3: you're not thinking about punching the football out and doing 156 00:07:54,920 --> 00:07:57,320 Speaker 3: those things right, You're you're just worried about getting the 157 00:07:57,320 --> 00:07:59,320 Speaker 3: guy on the ground when you're when you're getting worn 158 00:07:59,320 --> 00:08:05,240 Speaker 3: out on the ground. The interceptions, uh, hips and overthrows 159 00:08:05,800 --> 00:08:09,480 Speaker 3: and the overall I mean Jalen Hurts was sacked three 160 00:08:09,520 --> 00:08:14,880 Speaker 3: times yesterday, I believe, but overall I don't recall him 161 00:08:15,400 --> 00:08:19,200 Speaker 3: being under pressure quite a bit. Those are the hits, right, 162 00:08:19,280 --> 00:08:22,960 Speaker 3: those are the hurries, And when those things happen, that's 163 00:08:22,960 --> 00:08:25,040 Speaker 3: when you start getting the overthrows. That's when you start 164 00:08:25,080 --> 00:08:27,360 Speaker 3: getting tips and guys trying to force the football. And 165 00:08:28,280 --> 00:08:32,000 Speaker 3: they didn't. They just didn't get Jalen under any type 166 00:08:32,040 --> 00:08:37,320 Speaker 3: of duress pressure. And he had time. I mean, you know, 167 00:08:37,360 --> 00:08:39,560 Speaker 3: he had time to tell a j. Brown to turn 168 00:08:39,600 --> 00:08:42,800 Speaker 3: that flat route into a go route when Josh Mittelis 169 00:08:42,920 --> 00:08:45,600 Speaker 3: was on him, right, I mean he was. It was. 170 00:08:45,800 --> 00:08:48,560 Speaker 3: It was like a seven on seven drill at times. 171 00:08:49,000 --> 00:08:51,440 Speaker 3: And when that when the when quarterbacks are that comfortable 172 00:08:51,480 --> 00:08:54,760 Speaker 3: and receivers are that comfortable, then you're not You're not 173 00:08:54,800 --> 00:08:57,360 Speaker 3: going to get those turnovers. So to get back on 174 00:08:57,400 --> 00:09:00,559 Speaker 3: that turnover train, you're gonna need to get out of 175 00:09:00,600 --> 00:09:03,320 Speaker 3: the quarterback more. We've been blitzing. I mean, we still 176 00:09:03,320 --> 00:09:05,360 Speaker 3: blitzed as much, if not more than anybody in the league, 177 00:09:05,360 --> 00:09:09,800 Speaker 3: but we're blitzing less. We're only we're below forty percent. 178 00:09:09,840 --> 00:09:11,520 Speaker 3: We're down a third. We were going into this game, 179 00:09:11,520 --> 00:09:14,560 Speaker 3: we were at thirty seven point seven percent, which is 180 00:09:14,640 --> 00:09:17,600 Speaker 3: probably four or five or six percent less than what 181 00:09:17,720 --> 00:09:23,199 Speaker 3: we've been doing kind of historically. So you know, getting 182 00:09:23,240 --> 00:09:26,360 Speaker 3: away from that. That's the one change on defense I 183 00:09:26,400 --> 00:09:29,200 Speaker 3: think we might see by Thursday. It's going to be 184 00:09:29,200 --> 00:09:32,640 Speaker 3: hard to do, not for you know, putting in a 185 00:09:32,640 --> 00:09:35,520 Speaker 3: bunch of different plays in a short week, but we 186 00:09:35,760 --> 00:09:39,200 Speaker 3: definitely have to get after Herbert. We definitely have to 187 00:09:39,280 --> 00:09:42,079 Speaker 3: get on because he's another guy that doesn't throw a 188 00:09:42,080 --> 00:09:45,600 Speaker 3: lot of interceptions, but because they were behind in the score, 189 00:09:45,960 --> 00:09:49,359 Speaker 3: because yesterday they were forced to throw the football forty 190 00:09:49,400 --> 00:09:52,760 Speaker 3: some or fifty times, you have to make something happen. 191 00:09:53,000 --> 00:09:55,320 Speaker 3: That's how Indy got hit. You know, he only threw 192 00:09:55,360 --> 00:09:58,360 Speaker 3: two interceptions all season last year, and he threw I 193 00:09:58,360 --> 00:10:01,800 Speaker 3: think three yesterday, so you know through three in a 194 00:10:01,800 --> 00:10:04,480 Speaker 3: playoff game as well. So you have to get pressure 195 00:10:04,520 --> 00:10:06,040 Speaker 3: on that guy. You got to get him off of 196 00:10:06,080 --> 00:10:07,840 Speaker 3: the spot, you got to get him to move. He's 197 00:10:07,840 --> 00:10:10,800 Speaker 3: just so good with the short passing game. So the 198 00:10:10,880 --> 00:10:13,360 Speaker 3: answer to that, Nordo, I think is we need to 199 00:10:13,400 --> 00:10:16,199 Speaker 3: start getting bait. We need to get bag ginkle back, 200 00:10:16,480 --> 00:10:18,559 Speaker 3: and we need to start getting pressure on the quarterback. 201 00:10:18,720 --> 00:10:21,240 Speaker 3: Get them you know, and again the sacks are important, 202 00:10:21,280 --> 00:10:23,520 Speaker 3: but that number doesn't tell you all the story. It's 203 00:10:23,559 --> 00:10:26,800 Speaker 3: about what you see and if the quarterback is just 204 00:10:26,920 --> 00:10:30,440 Speaker 3: trying to make something happen in Indy under duress, I 205 00:10:30,440 --> 00:10:33,520 Speaker 3: don't think Jalen Hurtz was that uncomfortable in the pocket yesterday. 206 00:10:33,559 --> 00:10:36,920 Speaker 2: A couple of things here. The analyst Lad Nordo brought 207 00:10:36,960 --> 00:10:40,720 Speaker 2: it up. The Vikings are now minus four in the 208 00:10:40,960 --> 00:10:46,520 Speaker 2: ever important take gif minus four, which is one behind 209 00:10:47,160 --> 00:10:51,199 Speaker 2: the juggernaut known as the Tennessee Titans l at minus 210 00:10:51,240 --> 00:10:54,960 Speaker 2: three and one clear of the juggernaut known as the 211 00:10:55,080 --> 00:10:59,720 Speaker 2: Las Vegas Raiders l at minus five now minus so 212 00:10:59,800 --> 00:11:02,720 Speaker 2: they remind us to yesterday and the take give and 213 00:11:02,880 --> 00:11:06,680 Speaker 2: allow to pick six, you're a three percent winner in 214 00:11:06,840 --> 00:11:07,559 Speaker 2: NFL games. 215 00:11:07,600 --> 00:11:08,360 Speaker 1: When that happens. 216 00:11:08,640 --> 00:11:11,280 Speaker 2: You go minus two and you allow a pick six 217 00:11:11,400 --> 00:11:14,880 Speaker 2: or a return touchdown punt kick or pick six or 218 00:11:14,960 --> 00:11:17,920 Speaker 2: bumble recovery, and you're a three percent winner. 219 00:11:18,200 --> 00:11:21,520 Speaker 1: It's just not what we're used to around here, right. 220 00:11:23,280 --> 00:11:27,080 Speaker 3: No, absolutely right. And that play, that play that Jalx 221 00:11:27,160 --> 00:11:31,319 Speaker 3: Hunt made, that was that was a damn good defensive play. 222 00:11:31,960 --> 00:11:33,960 Speaker 3: I mean, the way the play was set up with 223 00:11:34,040 --> 00:11:36,320 Speaker 3: the tight end. We had Hockinson, I believe out why 224 00:11:36,400 --> 00:11:39,920 Speaker 3: and JJ was in the slot. You do that to 225 00:11:39,960 --> 00:11:42,480 Speaker 3: see if you got manner zone. The corners were walked out, 226 00:11:42,480 --> 00:11:44,480 Speaker 3: we had receivers in the slot. The ball was going 227 00:11:44,520 --> 00:11:46,680 Speaker 3: to go somewhere in the middle of the field. And 228 00:11:46,760 --> 00:11:50,640 Speaker 3: then they wanted to show a blitz and they did 229 00:11:50,720 --> 00:11:52,560 Speaker 3: the same thing we do with Andrew Van Ginckle. They 230 00:11:52,600 --> 00:11:56,679 Speaker 3: just dropped Jlyx Hunt off and uh, you know, Carson 231 00:11:56,679 --> 00:11:59,199 Speaker 3: Wentz saw the pressure and wanted to get rid of 232 00:11:59,240 --> 00:12:02,160 Speaker 3: that football quickly. He's trying to get it to Jefferson 233 00:12:02,320 --> 00:12:06,000 Speaker 3: in between the safety and one of the linebackers, and 234 00:12:06,000 --> 00:12:10,000 Speaker 3: and and Jylex Hunt just put himself exactly in that alley, 235 00:12:10,400 --> 00:12:13,240 Speaker 3: and you know, stepped up made a play. And I 236 00:12:13,240 --> 00:12:16,080 Speaker 3: mean we again, we've seen it a bunch of times, 237 00:12:17,400 --> 00:12:20,800 Speaker 3: you know, through Andrew van ginkel So that that was 238 00:12:20,960 --> 00:12:24,800 Speaker 3: that was a damn defensive play again, you go, I 239 00:12:24,800 --> 00:12:29,719 Speaker 3: mean thinking about it, Parson Wentz was under durest at 240 00:12:29,760 --> 00:12:32,560 Speaker 3: times yesterday. Was he not he was running for his life? 241 00:12:32,880 --> 00:12:37,199 Speaker 3: It was he didn't he didn't extend plays. There maybe 242 00:12:37,240 --> 00:12:40,280 Speaker 3: a couple to throw the throw of the throw to Hockinson, 243 00:12:40,360 --> 00:12:43,120 Speaker 3: that you know, was a touchdown, not a touchdown or whatever. 244 00:12:44,360 --> 00:12:46,679 Speaker 3: You know, that was him extending a play and not 245 00:12:46,720 --> 00:12:50,600 Speaker 3: necessarily being imminent that he's going to get destroyed, but 246 00:12:51,280 --> 00:12:53,360 Speaker 3: it was that was just that was just a damn 247 00:12:53,400 --> 00:12:54,800 Speaker 3: good play by a Philly defense. 248 00:12:55,360 --> 00:12:57,960 Speaker 5: How how difficult is it because the way that I'm 249 00:12:58,000 --> 00:13:00,040 Speaker 5: seeing it, PA hit me with a stat early and 250 00:13:00,120 --> 00:13:03,760 Speaker 5: I hadn't looked at this snapcounts Pete that Javon Hargrave 251 00:13:03,920 --> 00:13:07,400 Speaker 5: only played eighteen snaps yesterday, So a guy that I 252 00:13:07,480 --> 00:13:10,719 Speaker 5: did see making plays at various points throughout the game. 253 00:13:10,800 --> 00:13:13,400 Speaker 5: Jalen Redman and kind of an a topic into the 254 00:13:13,400 --> 00:13:18,000 Speaker 5: game stopping Saquon Barkley, win, lose, draw this thing, Saquon 255 00:13:18,080 --> 00:13:21,720 Speaker 5: ain't gonna get loose, And how how tough is that 256 00:13:21,840 --> 00:13:24,480 Speaker 5: balance where I want to shut down what Saquon is 257 00:13:24,520 --> 00:13:27,480 Speaker 5: able to do, but also some of those coverage things 258 00:13:27,520 --> 00:13:29,440 Speaker 5: and such that you were talking about in terms of 259 00:13:29,520 --> 00:13:32,920 Speaker 5: limiting Jalen hurts, do they have to be mutually exclusive 260 00:13:33,120 --> 00:13:35,040 Speaker 5: or is this part of a package that just kind 261 00:13:35,080 --> 00:13:35,959 Speaker 5: of went the wrong way? 262 00:13:37,000 --> 00:13:41,560 Speaker 3: And you it's very it can be very difficult to do. 263 00:13:41,640 --> 00:13:44,360 Speaker 3: And that's the that's kind of the dilemma that the 264 00:13:44,400 --> 00:13:47,880 Speaker 3: Philly offense puts you in. Right, they have a good 265 00:13:48,080 --> 00:13:52,240 Speaker 3: three wide receiver offense, which makes you want to play nickel, 266 00:13:52,840 --> 00:13:55,520 Speaker 3: and then they want to run the ball with Saquon 267 00:13:55,559 --> 00:13:58,000 Speaker 3: Barkley when they if you watch, if you watch them 268 00:13:58,000 --> 00:14:00,760 Speaker 3: against the Giants, they were a three wide offense. I 269 00:14:00,840 --> 00:14:03,560 Speaker 3: believe like eighty percent of the time. I mean, they 270 00:14:03,640 --> 00:14:08,360 Speaker 3: want three wide receivers a lot. Now what's interesting is now, 271 00:14:08,520 --> 00:14:12,559 Speaker 3: in the last three weeks, we have seen substituted offensive 272 00:14:12,640 --> 00:14:16,760 Speaker 3: linemen for tight ends. Right, Pittsburgh did it, Cleveland did it. 273 00:14:17,080 --> 00:14:20,280 Speaker 3: That's the AFC, Norris, they do that over there. Then 274 00:14:20,360 --> 00:14:22,120 Speaker 3: Philly all of a sudden comes in and says, you 275 00:14:22,160 --> 00:14:24,720 Speaker 3: know what we're gonna do? You know, yeah, we're missing 276 00:14:24,760 --> 00:14:26,720 Speaker 3: some tight ends. I believe Grant I don't even Grantson 277 00:14:26,800 --> 00:14:29,680 Speaker 3: even played. They're like, Okay, we're gonna throw an external 278 00:14:29,720 --> 00:14:31,920 Speaker 3: offensive lineman and we're gonna, you know, we're gonna. We're 279 00:14:31,920 --> 00:14:34,120 Speaker 3: gonna bring in Fred Johnson, throw him at tight end 280 00:14:34,120 --> 00:14:36,400 Speaker 3: and then throw the ball deep on you. We're gonna, 281 00:14:36,400 --> 00:14:40,120 Speaker 3: you know. And so it seems to me that that's 282 00:14:40,840 --> 00:14:44,280 Speaker 3: that's the direction. Instead of spreading this defense out they're 283 00:14:44,320 --> 00:14:48,520 Speaker 3: adding bodies to it and trying to get the fronts 284 00:14:48,640 --> 00:14:51,680 Speaker 3: and the adjustments and different things to you. So my 285 00:14:51,760 --> 00:14:56,080 Speaker 3: point when the Vikings defensive seeing bigger offensive linemen, they're 286 00:14:56,080 --> 00:14:59,600 Speaker 3: adding bigger bodies on the field and teams are using that. 287 00:14:59,640 --> 00:15:01,960 Speaker 3: Now throw out the football. These Atilly did Actilly did 288 00:15:01,960 --> 00:15:06,040 Speaker 3: that a number a couple of times. So it's always 289 00:15:06,200 --> 00:15:08,440 Speaker 3: it's always an ebb and flow and it's not it's 290 00:15:08,440 --> 00:15:11,200 Speaker 3: not easy to do. We played more format front yesterday 291 00:15:11,240 --> 00:15:15,200 Speaker 3: than I'd seen in quite some time because I think 292 00:15:15,280 --> 00:15:17,920 Speaker 3: we were expecting that free wide offense and we didn't 293 00:15:17,960 --> 00:15:19,880 Speaker 3: quite get it. So there were some adjustments I think 294 00:15:19,920 --> 00:15:22,800 Speaker 3: to that from a personnel and and scheme standpoint. But 295 00:15:23,440 --> 00:15:29,840 Speaker 3: the the the productivity up front, yeah, we we need 296 00:15:29,880 --> 00:15:33,000 Speaker 3: we need more of it, and it's it's not easy 297 00:15:33,040 --> 00:15:35,520 Speaker 3: to do. And I don't know what else to say 298 00:15:35,520 --> 00:15:37,520 Speaker 3: on that. I mean, Ivan Pace not being out there 299 00:15:37,680 --> 00:15:39,920 Speaker 3: was a big story. I don't know what's going on 300 00:15:40,000 --> 00:15:44,160 Speaker 3: with that, but you know, getting Cashman and having Eric Wilson, 301 00:15:44,840 --> 00:15:47,360 Speaker 3: you know, Eric Wilson had but sack and a half yesterday, 302 00:15:47,440 --> 00:15:49,840 Speaker 3: so it looks like, you know, looks like we got 303 00:15:49,880 --> 00:15:51,800 Speaker 3: a little bit of a change there at the lineback position. 304 00:15:51,840 --> 00:15:54,440 Speaker 1: I guess I don't know, hey has. 305 00:15:54,280 --> 00:15:56,840 Speaker 5: The magic dust switching over to the offensive side of 306 00:15:56,880 --> 00:16:00,600 Speaker 5: the ball, has the has the magic warn't off Brandell 307 00:16:00,880 --> 00:16:03,680 Speaker 5: such a great performance in London and then I know 308 00:16:03,960 --> 00:16:06,200 Speaker 5: bad beat on the holding penalty, but whether it was 309 00:16:06,280 --> 00:16:10,160 Speaker 5: the crazy snap and he was absolutely And Jalen Carter 310 00:16:10,480 --> 00:16:11,640 Speaker 5: is a high end player. 311 00:16:11,680 --> 00:16:12,200 Speaker 1: I know that. 312 00:16:12,640 --> 00:16:15,280 Speaker 5: But Jayleen, I mean you want to talk about turnstyle 313 00:16:15,440 --> 00:16:16,760 Speaker 5: on that pick six play? 314 00:16:17,640 --> 00:16:18,720 Speaker 1: Just what did you see? 315 00:16:19,000 --> 00:16:21,200 Speaker 5: You know, maybe we can extend this from Brandell to 316 00:16:21,360 --> 00:16:25,440 Speaker 5: just in general what you saw from that fifteenth incarnation 317 00:16:25,520 --> 00:16:28,000 Speaker 5: of the Minnesota Vikings offensive line yesterday. 318 00:16:28,880 --> 00:16:31,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, you know, Brandell, it's his second game 319 00:16:31,600 --> 00:16:35,880 Speaker 3: at the position. You know, whether or not, you know, 320 00:16:36,000 --> 00:16:37,880 Speaker 3: somebody else that they can throw in there is going 321 00:16:37,960 --> 00:16:39,720 Speaker 3: to do better. That's promp sure what they're going to 322 00:16:39,760 --> 00:16:42,880 Speaker 3: evaluate in this short week. That's why it's tough. But yeah, 323 00:16:42,880 --> 00:16:45,800 Speaker 3: he has to play better, no question about it. Only 324 00:16:45,840 --> 00:16:49,960 Speaker 3: a second game there. The mistakes that were made. This 325 00:16:50,040 --> 00:16:52,280 Speaker 3: is the issue when you play a team like Philadelphia 326 00:16:52,920 --> 00:16:55,880 Speaker 3: is again you know other teams that you play, you 327 00:16:56,000 --> 00:16:57,640 Speaker 3: might be able to make a mistake or two and 328 00:16:57,640 --> 00:16:59,960 Speaker 3: then be able to overcome them. But when you play 329 00:17:00,160 --> 00:17:05,040 Speaker 3: in Philadelphia or you know, the form the Super Bowl champs, 330 00:17:05,480 --> 00:17:07,320 Speaker 3: you're just not going to be able to do that. 331 00:17:08,000 --> 00:17:12,320 Speaker 3: And you know, those mistakes, those were those mistakes were 332 00:17:12,400 --> 00:17:15,160 Speaker 3: costly Man. That snap over the head in the red zone. 333 00:17:15,200 --> 00:17:18,199 Speaker 3: That that one to me, that that one bothers me 334 00:17:18,280 --> 00:17:21,080 Speaker 3: kind of the most because there are a lot of 335 00:17:21,080 --> 00:17:23,960 Speaker 3: people on this planet that play offensive line. That said 336 00:17:23,960 --> 00:17:26,080 Speaker 3: that Dalen Carter beat him one on one on a 337 00:17:26,080 --> 00:17:28,800 Speaker 3: pass rush. I mean that happens. Jalen Carter is very, 338 00:17:28,880 --> 00:17:32,280 Speaker 3: very good. But snapping the ball over the quarterback's head 339 00:17:32,280 --> 00:17:34,800 Speaker 3: when he's six foot four, you know, six foot five, 340 00:17:34,920 --> 00:17:36,560 Speaker 3: we can't. You know, those are the things that we 341 00:17:36,640 --> 00:17:37,080 Speaker 3: just can't do. 342 00:17:37,280 --> 00:17:41,160 Speaker 2: Pete pursat Sue Cup Manufacturing and Sue Cup dot Com. 343 00:17:41,160 --> 00:17:43,560 Speaker 2: Thank you very much, Sue Cup. Just a couple more 344 00:17:43,640 --> 00:17:46,520 Speaker 2: before we close here, Pete. But back back to just 345 00:17:46,920 --> 00:17:52,359 Speaker 2: to dubtail off Nordo's question about Javon hark Ray. He 346 00:17:53,160 --> 00:17:57,440 Speaker 2: played eighteen plays yesterday. He only played eighteen plays. That's 347 00:17:57,480 --> 00:18:00,880 Speaker 2: fewer than Levi Drake Rodriguez. Okay, when Redman has been 348 00:18:00,880 --> 00:18:04,080 Speaker 2: the best defensive lineman the team's had all season. Okay, 349 00:18:04,119 --> 00:18:08,960 Speaker 2: so he played fewer than Redmond, all right, but eighteen plays? 350 00:18:09,280 --> 00:18:10,359 Speaker 1: Why why do you think? 351 00:18:12,359 --> 00:18:15,600 Speaker 3: I don't know. Again, I see that. That's why I'm 352 00:18:15,640 --> 00:18:18,840 Speaker 3: kind of going back to did we get what we 353 00:18:18,920 --> 00:18:21,160 Speaker 3: expected out of Philadelphia? 354 00:18:21,240 --> 00:18:21,520 Speaker 1: Again? 355 00:18:21,600 --> 00:18:24,199 Speaker 3: With the multiple we had multiple tight ends, we had 356 00:18:24,200 --> 00:18:27,359 Speaker 3: twelve personnel, more than we'd ever seen, the extra offensive lineman. 357 00:18:27,760 --> 00:18:32,919 Speaker 3: So whether or not that meant a different defensive line 358 00:18:33,119 --> 00:18:35,840 Speaker 3: that was going to be their adjustment. So, by my 359 00:18:35,960 --> 00:18:38,800 Speaker 3: point being, I don't know, this is a question I 360 00:18:38,800 --> 00:18:40,680 Speaker 3: would want to I would want to ask is that 361 00:18:40,720 --> 00:18:43,600 Speaker 3: by is that by design? Or is that by what 362 00:18:43,760 --> 00:18:46,800 Speaker 3: Philly was able? Because offenses will do that, they'll put 363 00:18:46,840 --> 00:18:50,199 Speaker 3: certain personnel groups on the field because they know certain 364 00:18:50,280 --> 00:18:54,640 Speaker 3: defensive players will be on the field. So was that 365 00:18:55,040 --> 00:18:57,200 Speaker 3: one of the reasons why Hargrave didn't play that much? 366 00:18:57,240 --> 00:19:00,359 Speaker 3: Because in a three wide offense, Hardgrave is going to 367 00:19:00,359 --> 00:19:03,480 Speaker 3: be in the entire game. And then they decided to 368 00:19:03,480 --> 00:19:06,480 Speaker 3: go to a heavier personnel group, and that meant our 369 00:19:06,480 --> 00:19:09,240 Speaker 3: great came off. And let's say Drake Rodriguez went in 370 00:19:09,400 --> 00:19:12,960 Speaker 3: or or or somebody else up front, so or you know, 371 00:19:13,280 --> 00:19:17,160 Speaker 3: or or Jalen Redman. So I don't know. I mean 372 00:19:17,960 --> 00:19:19,720 Speaker 3: he needs to be on the field a lot more. 373 00:19:20,720 --> 00:19:23,600 Speaker 3: All those guys, all those guys in the middle, I mean, 374 00:19:24,440 --> 00:19:28,679 Speaker 3: Jalen Redman is showing a lot of more of what 375 00:19:28,720 --> 00:19:32,520 Speaker 3: we saw of the three guys that we had up 376 00:19:32,520 --> 00:19:36,560 Speaker 3: front with Tillery and Harrison, Phillips and Ballard. Right, remember 377 00:19:36,560 --> 00:19:38,439 Speaker 3: the movement we would see out of them, and the 378 00:19:38,480 --> 00:19:41,000 Speaker 3: stunts and the different things that TFLs every once in 379 00:19:41,040 --> 00:19:45,280 Speaker 3: a while that that group up front needs to get 380 00:19:45,280 --> 00:19:48,000 Speaker 3: it needs to get together and kind of get back 381 00:19:48,040 --> 00:19:52,520 Speaker 3: to that and whatever that is, whether it's fundamental technique, 382 00:19:52,560 --> 00:19:55,640 Speaker 3: alignment of signal, what it is that that that group needs. 383 00:19:55,680 --> 00:19:58,000 Speaker 3: But they need to slidify those things inside. 384 00:19:58,160 --> 00:20:00,680 Speaker 1: All right, we're in a hurry time for two. Let 385 00:20:00,680 --> 00:20:01,280 Speaker 1: me ask you this. 386 00:20:01,840 --> 00:20:04,440 Speaker 5: I've been pretty hard whether it was fan line yesterday, 387 00:20:04,480 --> 00:20:06,960 Speaker 5: I've been pretty hard on Carson Wentz and his accuracy 388 00:20:07,000 --> 00:20:09,680 Speaker 5: and his decision making yesterday. And I'm just curious from 389 00:20:09,720 --> 00:20:12,119 Speaker 5: what you saw, Pete, is there an element of this 390 00:20:12,240 --> 00:20:15,120 Speaker 5: where we can say, man, he's playing hurt and that's 391 00:20:15,160 --> 00:20:19,399 Speaker 5: impacting things. Or did we see a significant regression and 392 00:20:19,480 --> 00:20:21,200 Speaker 5: just a hideous game from the veteran. 393 00:20:22,160 --> 00:20:23,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, Well, you might saw a little bit of everything. 394 00:20:23,960 --> 00:20:24,120 Speaker 6: Though. 395 00:20:24,200 --> 00:20:27,040 Speaker 3: Oh that's the problem, right, you know. I mean, you 396 00:20:28,760 --> 00:20:31,760 Speaker 3: don't know how banged up he really is because we 397 00:20:31,880 --> 00:20:34,520 Speaker 3: just don't know him. We'll never know, but there's no 398 00:20:34,720 --> 00:20:38,840 Speaker 3: question to your point. And when you watch the game, 399 00:20:38,880 --> 00:20:40,560 Speaker 3: you get a feeling for it, right, you get a 400 00:20:40,600 --> 00:20:43,800 Speaker 3: feeling full when the quarterback is at the top of 401 00:20:43,840 --> 00:20:46,160 Speaker 3: his drop going through his progression, maybe has to get 402 00:20:46,160 --> 00:20:47,960 Speaker 3: off the spot. But then those where to go with 403 00:20:48,040 --> 00:20:50,960 Speaker 3: it, and we didn't see that as much. He saw some 404 00:20:51,359 --> 00:20:55,120 Speaker 3: off scheduled throws, side arm throws, not moving his feet 405 00:20:55,200 --> 00:20:57,600 Speaker 3: type throws. And then then on top of that, you 406 00:20:57,640 --> 00:21:01,960 Speaker 3: start seeing some subtle inaccuracies on out routes. You know, 407 00:21:02,080 --> 00:21:04,479 Speaker 3: a lot of the out routes like to uh uh 408 00:21:05,320 --> 00:21:09,320 Speaker 3: uh to Jordan Addison were fantastic toward the end of 409 00:21:09,400 --> 00:21:11,480 Speaker 3: the game, but there were times there where there are 410 00:21:11,520 --> 00:21:15,560 Speaker 3: some throws that were should have been completed that weren't. So, yeah, 411 00:21:15,600 --> 00:21:18,399 Speaker 3: that's starting to creep in. And what exactly that is, 412 00:21:18,680 --> 00:21:21,800 Speaker 3: I don't know, but it is a regression, it is. 413 00:21:22,040 --> 00:21:24,639 Speaker 3: It is definitely he looked much less comfortable in the 414 00:21:24,680 --> 00:21:29,520 Speaker 3: pocket than he did, you know, two weeks ago, So 415 00:21:29,840 --> 00:21:32,959 Speaker 3: that's kind of that's trending in that way. The chargers 416 00:21:32,960 --> 00:21:34,600 Speaker 3: are going to see it, you know what they're going 417 00:21:34,680 --> 00:21:36,399 Speaker 3: to want to do about it or how they're gonna 418 00:21:36,440 --> 00:21:38,199 Speaker 3: keep I mean, the bottom line is this is you 419 00:21:38,200 --> 00:21:40,919 Speaker 3: want to get pressure on onz, right, That's what you 420 00:21:40,960 --> 00:21:44,600 Speaker 3: want to do. It's the same thing like with Kirk Cousins. 421 00:21:44,840 --> 00:21:46,760 Speaker 3: If you just let Kirk Cousins sit in the pocket, 422 00:21:46,840 --> 00:21:49,360 Speaker 3: he's gonna put up three hundred on you. He has 423 00:21:49,400 --> 00:21:51,960 Speaker 3: that ability. But when you get him off the spot 424 00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:55,280 Speaker 3: and get pressure on him, then good things start to 425 00:21:55,280 --> 00:21:57,199 Speaker 3: happen for the defense. And that seems to be the 426 00:21:57,240 --> 00:21:59,960 Speaker 3: trend right now. So whether or not, now, whether that's 427 00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:03,480 Speaker 3: the injury, whether that whatever, that's fundamental, who knows what 428 00:22:03,520 --> 00:22:06,800 Speaker 3: that what that is? Uh, maybe he's worried about the 429 00:22:06,840 --> 00:22:09,560 Speaker 3: ball being snapped over his head. Who knows there's something 430 00:22:09,640 --> 00:22:14,720 Speaker 3: going on there that's making him look less comfortable the city, 431 00:22:14,760 --> 00:22:17,720 Speaker 3: you know, less in charge of the system, per se. 432 00:22:18,480 --> 00:22:23,280 Speaker 3: Uh And what that is needs to be needs to 433 00:22:23,280 --> 00:22:25,920 Speaker 3: be fixed, needs to be you know, that whole whole 434 00:22:25,920 --> 00:22:30,080 Speaker 3: position needs to calm down. We've got so much every 435 00:22:30,080 --> 00:22:32,320 Speaker 3: time every time we snapped the ball and dropped back 436 00:22:32,359 --> 00:22:37,159 Speaker 3: past it's like it's it's drama, and it's uh, you know, 437 00:22:37,200 --> 00:22:39,160 Speaker 3: we need to get we need to get away from 438 00:22:39,200 --> 00:22:41,960 Speaker 3: that and get more into the machine side of the 439 00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:43,199 Speaker 3: passing game and the offense. 440 00:22:43,400 --> 00:22:46,800 Speaker 2: Let's let's close with amazement. 441 00:22:47,040 --> 00:22:50,479 Speaker 1: I mean this is I think it's amazing. How about this. 442 00:22:51,160 --> 00:22:54,960 Speaker 2: If into the game, I told you the Minnesota Vikings 443 00:22:54,960 --> 00:22:58,359 Speaker 2: would kill the Philadelphia Eagles on third down, they would 444 00:22:58,400 --> 00:23:01,679 Speaker 2: have more rushing yards, they would have five fewer penalties, 445 00:23:02,119 --> 00:23:05,000 Speaker 2: and would win the time of possession by almost ten minutes, 446 00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:08,400 Speaker 2: and Saquon Barkley would average two point four yards per 447 00:23:08,440 --> 00:23:11,960 Speaker 2: carry with a long of nine. You probably would think 448 00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:15,719 Speaker 2: the Minnesota Vikings won by multiple scores, right, But turnovers, 449 00:23:15,760 --> 00:23:19,359 Speaker 2: Man's that's kind of been a common thread with this conversation. 450 00:23:20,400 --> 00:23:23,480 Speaker 2: I will I'll see you Wednesday. 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Nebraska hasn't been high 467 00:24:14,600 --> 00:24:18,480 Speaker 2: end of late, but Nebraska Cornhusk Kirchs football is that 468 00:24:18,560 --> 00:24:21,919 Speaker 2: of immortality. And they didn't score a touchdown, they absolutely 469 00:24:21,920 --> 00:24:22,760 Speaker 2: got dusted well. 470 00:24:22,760 --> 00:24:24,919 Speaker 5: And it was kind of fun too, whether it was 471 00:24:24,960 --> 00:24:28,359 Speaker 5: with Burnsy bow Hunter during the week and then getting 472 00:24:28,359 --> 00:24:30,840 Speaker 5: the chance to chat with Jeremiah Searles on a couple 473 00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:33,600 Speaker 5: of different levels, not just the Purple and the Minnesota 474 00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:36,959 Speaker 5: moving company, but also just Dylan Ryola and oh highly 475 00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:40,320 Speaker 5: touted and Nebraska's on something you've mentioned it kind of 476 00:24:40,359 --> 00:24:43,120 Speaker 5: third year for Matt Ruhle starting to turn some corners 477 00:24:43,160 --> 00:24:45,920 Speaker 5: there and what this defense was able to do against 478 00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:49,080 Speaker 5: Ryola and those guys. The other night, nothing short of impressive. 479 00:24:49,440 --> 00:24:51,760 Speaker 5: You know, I think with PJ kind of the last 480 00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:55,080 Speaker 5: few weeks and you've probably noticed this trend two. You 481 00:24:55,160 --> 00:24:58,159 Speaker 5: love the evolution of Drake Lindsay, but you're kind of 482 00:24:58,160 --> 00:25:01,480 Speaker 5: going like, hey, that run game, remember, like the kind 483 00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:03,600 Speaker 5: of like what you like, what the coach likes to do, 484 00:25:03,720 --> 00:25:06,960 Speaker 5: identities of teams, and while the Vikings are still trying 485 00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:09,720 Speaker 5: to find it, the Gophers have really established over a 486 00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:12,960 Speaker 5: long time now. PJ wants to own the clock. PJ 487 00:25:13,119 --> 00:25:15,840 Speaker 5: wants to run the ball, and haven't been able to 488 00:25:15,840 --> 00:25:18,040 Speaker 5: do it, like thirty yards in a game, forty five 489 00:25:18,119 --> 00:25:20,119 Speaker 5: fifty yards. Here's like, what the heck's going on? And 490 00:25:20,160 --> 00:25:23,440 Speaker 5: you need Drake Lindsay to handle business. You sack Rayola 491 00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:27,359 Speaker 5: like nine freaking times on Saturday night, and Darius Taylor, 492 00:25:27,440 --> 00:25:29,600 Speaker 5: oh my goodness, get into the end zone a man, 493 00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:32,600 Speaker 5: but that's seventy one, he's out at the one. Just 494 00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:35,879 Speaker 5: the ability to start running the ball. I'm anticipating a 495 00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:38,640 Speaker 5: little extra skipping the step of the old ball coach 496 00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:42,400 Speaker 5: this morning to the pros before we talk to PJ, 497 00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:47,840 Speaker 5: just just to dovetail or extend that that last piece 498 00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:50,399 Speaker 5: of what I feel is amazement I laid out for 499 00:25:50,440 --> 00:25:54,280 Speaker 5: the analyst. Honestly, if into the game I told you 500 00:25:54,359 --> 00:25:57,119 Speaker 5: the Vikings would kill the Eagles on third down, they 501 00:25:57,119 --> 00:25:59,840 Speaker 5: would have more rushing yards, five fewer penalties, would win 502 00:25:59,840 --> 00:26:02,879 Speaker 5: the time of possession by almost ten minutes, and Barkley 503 00:26:02,920 --> 00:26:05,159 Speaker 5: would average two point four yards per carry with a 504 00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:09,080 Speaker 5: long of nine. You probably would think the Vikings would 505 00:26:09,119 --> 00:26:12,240 Speaker 5: win in a walk, right. But when you're minus two 506 00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:16,080 Speaker 5: in the take give and you give up a return touchdown, 507 00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:20,359 Speaker 5: punt kick, bumble recovery or jay Lix hunt and the 508 00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:24,919 Speaker 5: pick l yesterday, you're a three percent winner. So you 509 00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:27,719 Speaker 5: can kill teams on third down, you can chew the 510 00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:31,159 Speaker 5: clock plus ten, you can outrun them, you can have 511 00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:33,840 Speaker 5: fewer penalties. But if your minus in that take give 512 00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:36,359 Speaker 5: and you give up a return touchdown, you are a 513 00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:42,480 Speaker 5: three percent winner. Some more negative detail of amazement, at 514 00:26:42,560 --> 00:26:47,040 Speaker 5: least for yours, truly from yesterday. Jalen Hurts a fine quarterback. 515 00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:51,680 Speaker 5: Super Bowl fifty nine MVP. He had three touchdowns yesterday. 516 00:26:52,720 --> 00:27:00,199 Speaker 2: Jalen Hurts have three touchdowns and four incomplete passes. So 517 00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:01,679 Speaker 2: many touchdowns as incomplete passes? 518 00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:02,240 Speaker 1: You kidding me? 519 00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:08,600 Speaker 2: Jalen Hurts that was Jalen hurts first game with three 520 00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:13,440 Speaker 2: hundred or more passing yards since Week three of last year. 521 00:27:13,720 --> 00:27:15,600 Speaker 1: Stoppin', stopping, stoppin'. 522 00:27:15,840 --> 00:27:20,920 Speaker 2: The Minnesota Vikings snapped Saquon Barkley's twenty five games streak 523 00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:23,560 Speaker 2: with at least fifty scrimmage yards. 524 00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:28,080 Speaker 1: He had forty two. Still lost, Stoppin', stopping, stopping. 525 00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:32,640 Speaker 2: Jalen Hurts and AJ Brown right a deep pass per 526 00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:37,280 Speaker 2: next gen stats, I believe is constituted at twenty yards. Okay, 527 00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:40,520 Speaker 2: twenty yards or more. Jalen Hurts and AJ Brown this 528 00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:44,800 Speaker 2: season on passes twenty yards or more two of eight 529 00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:51,040 Speaker 2: sixty eight yards, zero touchdowns, yesterday three of three one 530 00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:53,000 Speaker 2: oh eight and two touchdowns. 531 00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:58,040 Speaker 1: Stoppin', stoppin', stoppin' and uh. The Philadelphia Eagles. 532 00:27:58,240 --> 00:28:04,639 Speaker 2: This is Crazyhiladelphia Eagles have gone twenty four consecutive games 533 00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:06,560 Speaker 2: without an interception from a cornerback. 534 00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:08,800 Speaker 1: I mean the beaf eaters. 535 00:28:09,119 --> 00:28:14,400 Speaker 2: Whether it's whether it's Carter or Davis or Hunt or Bond, 536 00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:19,920 Speaker 2: their non corners are picking off passes. Yeah, they went 537 00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:22,879 Speaker 2: twenty four in a row. They've gone twenty four in 538 00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:25,960 Speaker 2: a row without an interception from a corner back. 539 00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:29,600 Speaker 1: And that's that of amazement. 540 00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:32,840 Speaker 5: You know what's crazy is sometimes stats meet a ton 541 00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:35,440 Speaker 5: and you pointed it out. But to that end, three 542 00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:38,880 Speaker 5: of ten on third down, they're three third downs that 543 00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:42,880 Speaker 5: they completed was to DeVante Smith for twenty eight yards. 544 00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:46,520 Speaker 5: That was the illegal contact that was declined on a 545 00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:50,360 Speaker 5: third and fifteen, a third and thirteen late, remember when 546 00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:53,760 Speaker 5: Hurts bent over as if he was anticipating a sack, 547 00:28:54,280 --> 00:28:56,920 Speaker 5: found his way to the right answer, gets Aj Brown 548 00:28:57,000 --> 00:29:00,560 Speaker 5: for thirteen and then third and nine was the forty 549 00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:03,600 Speaker 5: five yard dagger past a J. Brown late in the 550 00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:05,880 Speaker 5: game where they were able to effectively kneel it out 551 00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:08,840 Speaker 5: from there. And you know, from Alex Lewis on Friday, like, hey, 552 00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:11,040 Speaker 5: you give me a look at what the third and 553 00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:14,040 Speaker 5: long situations looked like for respective teams, and then I 554 00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:17,320 Speaker 5: kind of tell you, well, three of three on their 555 00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:21,600 Speaker 5: third and longs in those spots now massive plays that 556 00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:24,120 Speaker 5: determine the game. Three of ten, they only needed the three. 557 00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:26,200 Speaker 5: That's a good stat head hit right there. 558 00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:27,360 Speaker 1: PJ. 559 00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:29,880 Speaker 2: Fleck, Hello, you're on the air. Coach of the Golden 560 00:29:29,880 --> 00:29:33,320 Speaker 2: Gophers football team. Joins nine to noon next when PJ. 561 00:29:33,560 --> 00:29:37,120 Speaker 2: Fleck joins nine to noon to discuss Golden Gophers football 562 00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:40,520 Speaker 2: and that's going to take place soon. And kind of 563 00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:44,120 Speaker 2: a common thread over the last year, one that yours 564 00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:47,080 Speaker 2: truly in this radio show and hopefully the audience really enjoys, 565 00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:51,360 Speaker 2: is former Golden Gopher's basketball player and Kate f A 566 00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:55,800 Speaker 2: n Staple Parker Fox stopping by to join the PJ. 567 00:29:55,960 --> 00:30:00,520 Speaker 2: Fleck conversation. Then spend a Steve's Appliances Marathons segment with 568 00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:03,480 Speaker 2: us at about eleven oh three and uh and at 569 00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:07,840 Speaker 2: Parker Fox two four via X has stopped by now 570 00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:11,880 Speaker 2: and with PJ joining anytime in the next two or 571 00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:17,240 Speaker 2: three minutes, that'll be a joyous conversation. But texting with 572 00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:22,000 Speaker 2: you yesterday, I could just tell you were so sad 573 00:30:22,120 --> 00:30:24,680 Speaker 2: the pro team didn't win in good morning, yeah, and 574 00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:26,160 Speaker 2: good morning to you as well. 575 00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:26,560 Speaker 1: Pa. 576 00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:28,200 Speaker 6: It was just one of those ones where it's just 577 00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:31,280 Speaker 6: like you feel good, you know you. I texted my 578 00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:33,080 Speaker 6: dad before the game and it was like Saquon's kind 579 00:30:33,080 --> 00:30:36,720 Speaker 6: of the X factor, right, but nonetheless he he didn't 580 00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:38,160 Speaker 6: do much and we still lost the ball game. 581 00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:41,920 Speaker 2: Well, X mark the spot at Huntington Bank Stadium on 582 00:30:42,040 --> 00:30:44,840 Speaker 2: Friday night and joining us now is Golden Gophers football 583 00:30:44,840 --> 00:30:45,360 Speaker 2: coach PJ. 584 00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:45,760 Speaker 1: Flex. 585 00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:48,719 Speaker 2: Parker Fox is here and I'm Paul Allen. Gophers at 586 00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:52,040 Speaker 2: Iowa Saturday on the fan and eight days after a wonderful, 587 00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:57,600 Speaker 2: wonderful win over the ranked Nebraska Cornhuskers. And and PJ 588 00:30:57,800 --> 00:31:00,280 Speaker 2: first and foremost, good morning, great chatting with you the 589 00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:03,520 Speaker 2: Friday night. You know, if you could take us in 590 00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:05,880 Speaker 2: the weeds a little bit, and you know with the film, 591 00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:09,160 Speaker 2: with the film analyzed and everything, you know that there 592 00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:13,040 Speaker 2: are sack stats and stats that we all can see 593 00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:15,800 Speaker 2: without watching the All twenty two and know, hey, when 594 00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:18,080 Speaker 2: you don't give up a touchdown, that's probably pretty good, 595 00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:24,040 Speaker 2: especially in college football. Your defense and being assignment sound 596 00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:28,720 Speaker 2: and just thoroughly on point. Yeah, I don't know what 597 00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:33,440 Speaker 2: defense is called, but nevertheless they look so assignments sound. 598 00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:35,240 Speaker 1: On Friday night, was that the case? 599 00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:38,479 Speaker 4: Yeah, you hit it right on the HITPA, thanks for 600 00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:39,960 Speaker 4: having us on the show. Good to hear you and 601 00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:43,719 Speaker 4: Parker again. And you know we talked about you know, 602 00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:48,040 Speaker 4: ft right this entire week, and that was fundamentals and technique, 603 00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:50,720 Speaker 4: and you know we're a big fundamental technique type program. 604 00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:54,000 Speaker 4: Developmental programs usually are but we talked about this f 605 00:31:54,080 --> 00:31:56,800 Speaker 4: team standing for free throws. Free throws are the simplest 606 00:31:56,800 --> 00:31:59,000 Speaker 4: part of basketball. You know, Steph Curry's got a ninety 607 00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:01,920 Speaker 4: one percent plus free through a shooting percentage, the greatest 608 00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:05,000 Speaker 4: percentage in NBA history, And it's the simplest part of 609 00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:08,120 Speaker 4: the game. There's no distractions, You're completely in the moment. 610 00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:11,239 Speaker 4: It's all technique and fundamentals. When we play with our 611 00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:14,360 Speaker 4: technique in fundamentals and we combine that with how hard 612 00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:17,400 Speaker 4: we play within the scheme, we're pretty good. When we 613 00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:19,800 Speaker 4: go away from our fundamentals and technique and go try 614 00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:22,120 Speaker 4: to make a play outside the fundamentals and technique and 615 00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:24,120 Speaker 4: do our own thing, we're not very good. And I 616 00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:26,520 Speaker 4: thought our team kind of took that free throw theme 617 00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:29,040 Speaker 4: and did a great job all week. It was a 618 00:32:29,080 --> 00:32:30,440 Speaker 4: short week, so we had to do a lot of 619 00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:33,880 Speaker 4: things in kind of group type tempo, have speed type practice, 620 00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:37,000 Speaker 4: and our guys really did a great job focusing on 621 00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:39,760 Speaker 4: those fundamentals and techniques, and I thought that's what transferred 622 00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:43,600 Speaker 4: over into that defensive performance and the nine sack performance 623 00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:46,920 Speaker 4: where it really starts top down, as you know, you 624 00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:48,600 Speaker 4: got to be able to cover to get those sacks. 625 00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:51,600 Speaker 4: So it was true team defense and just proud that 626 00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:52,360 Speaker 4: we were able to do one. 627 00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:55,440 Speaker 6: To know, coach, one of the knocks on Dylan Ryola, 628 00:32:55,720 --> 00:32:57,640 Speaker 6: especially this season, is that he holds a ball for 629 00:32:57,680 --> 00:32:59,960 Speaker 6: a little too long, takes that extra second the pocket. 630 00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:02,760 Speaker 6: Is that something you and your defensive coordinator, you and 631 00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:05,640 Speaker 6: your staff identified or is this nine staff performance is 632 00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:08,280 Speaker 6: just you know, you guys like Carter Man's, Anthony Smith, 633 00:33:08,360 --> 00:33:09,719 Speaker 6: Jackson Howard just making plays. 634 00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:12,920 Speaker 4: Yeah. I don't know if that's a fair assessment, just 635 00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:15,840 Speaker 4: because and I've heard that same thing, but because I 636 00:33:15,840 --> 00:33:18,959 Speaker 4: think that, you know, when he doesn't have something on 637 00:33:19,040 --> 00:33:22,120 Speaker 4: the run in college football, so I don't know if 638 00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:24,760 Speaker 4: it's actually holding on to it too long. I think 639 00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:27,280 Speaker 4: that's part of his game is when he can escape, 640 00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:30,760 Speaker 4: he can create with his legs. He's so good throwing 641 00:33:30,840 --> 00:33:33,600 Speaker 4: on the run that you know, I think he does 642 00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:35,600 Speaker 4: escape the pocket really well. I thought what we did 643 00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:39,320 Speaker 4: was we were able to minimize and condense and constrict 644 00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:43,400 Speaker 4: those escape lanes. I'm not saying we were perfect and 645 00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:45,760 Speaker 4: did it all game, but when we did it, we 646 00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:48,760 Speaker 4: were able to condense him when he did want to 647 00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:51,120 Speaker 4: do it. He really does well we were around that 648 00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:53,240 Speaker 4: pocket tighter to him and we're able to get him 649 00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:55,720 Speaker 4: on the ground, and when we didn't, he created a 650 00:33:55,760 --> 00:33:59,040 Speaker 4: lot of explosive plays for him. So that's kind of 651 00:33:59,040 --> 00:34:01,080 Speaker 4: my assessment from it. I have a ton of respect 652 00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:03,680 Speaker 4: for him. I think he is an absolute eleakd quarterback 653 00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:06,760 Speaker 4: and has such a bright future. I just thought the 654 00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:09,040 Speaker 4: game plan was really good for us and worked out 655 00:34:09,080 --> 00:34:09,560 Speaker 4: in our favor. 656 00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:12,000 Speaker 2: Hey, DJ, maybe I should know this, but I don't. 657 00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:15,960 Speaker 2: And earlier in this chat, you described yourselves and your 658 00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:19,759 Speaker 2: team as a developmental program. Well, why do you use 659 00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:21,600 Speaker 2: that qualifier and what does that mean? 660 00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:26,640 Speaker 4: That's a great question. There's not a very short answer 661 00:34:26,640 --> 00:34:28,560 Speaker 4: for that. But I think in college football right now, 662 00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:31,520 Speaker 4: and there's two types of programs, and then I think 663 00:34:31,560 --> 00:34:34,320 Speaker 4: there's one kind of in the middle. There's transactional programs 664 00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:37,239 Speaker 4: where you're just maybe paying players to come in. You know, 665 00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:39,960 Speaker 4: sometimes you just get in the spring and then you 666 00:34:40,520 --> 00:34:42,680 Speaker 4: have a group and you think you have a team, 667 00:34:42,680 --> 00:34:44,680 Speaker 4: but maybe you don't have a team and maybe it's. 668 00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:45,040 Speaker 1: Just a group. 669 00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:47,920 Speaker 4: And then when things go bad and go sideways, nothing's 670 00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:51,120 Speaker 4: really holding that glue together besides maybe money and transactions. 671 00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:54,279 Speaker 4: Then you have this transformational side where it's we're not 672 00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:57,840 Speaker 4: going to do much transactions. It's just transformational. You know, 673 00:34:57,880 --> 00:34:59,600 Speaker 4: get guys as freshmen, go all the way through his 674 00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:02,399 Speaker 4: senior year and truly develop them. But I think there's 675 00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:04,200 Speaker 4: got to be a mix. I think there can be 676 00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:07,960 Speaker 4: transactions within this transformational program. And we love to take 677 00:35:08,040 --> 00:35:10,840 Speaker 4: eighty percent of our teampa as high school players. Twenty 678 00:35:10,840 --> 00:35:13,520 Speaker 4: percent is portal. We use the portal and we love 679 00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:17,080 Speaker 4: multi year portal players because we can keep developing them. 680 00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:19,759 Speaker 4: We don't get a lot of the finished products here. 681 00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:22,759 Speaker 4: That's what it means. We're taking kids that are high 682 00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:26,040 Speaker 4: school players and develop them into great college football players 683 00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:28,720 Speaker 4: and great men and then hopefully high NFL draft picks. 684 00:35:29,080 --> 00:35:31,520 Speaker 4: So it's not about where they are when they get here, 685 00:35:31,760 --> 00:35:34,000 Speaker 4: it's about where they are when they leave. And I 686 00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:36,879 Speaker 4: think some programs might have both of that. Some might 687 00:35:36,920 --> 00:35:38,640 Speaker 4: only have one of that, where they get somebody and 688 00:35:38,680 --> 00:35:42,560 Speaker 4: it's totally a finished product. It's all transactional. Ours is 689 00:35:42,600 --> 00:35:47,520 Speaker 4: a true developmental relationship, transformational mixed with the little transactions 690 00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:49,759 Speaker 4: here in the new age. That's my way of adapting 691 00:35:50,200 --> 00:35:53,160 Speaker 4: and not ignoring the new age of college football and 692 00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:56,680 Speaker 4: getting the most out of our players academically, athletically, socially, 693 00:35:56,719 --> 00:35:59,799 Speaker 4: and spiritually, and making sure this always stays, no matter 694 00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:04,040 Speaker 4: if it's more transactional less transactional, always stays a life 695 00:36:04,080 --> 00:36:08,040 Speaker 4: program because that is what college football is and I 696 00:36:08,080 --> 00:36:13,000 Speaker 4: think always will be until we truly become pro. But 697 00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:16,719 Speaker 4: we still call them student athletes. So this program is 698 00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:21,120 Speaker 4: going to value their entire life and develop them from 699 00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:23,319 Speaker 4: where they are to where they say they want to be. 700 00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:25,640 Speaker 4: That would be a developmental program. 701 00:36:25,080 --> 00:36:26,520 Speaker 1: Now, that was beautiful. 702 00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:30,160 Speaker 2: That was a sweet preach and man straightforward and honest too. 703 00:36:30,200 --> 00:36:31,840 Speaker 2: I mean laying it out like that, thank you, and 704 00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:35,040 Speaker 2: you know to dovetail off that. You know, I just 705 00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:38,279 Speaker 2: be being around coaches as long as I have. The 706 00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:40,680 Speaker 2: noise has to be elevator music. I mean, if you 707 00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:43,120 Speaker 2: win thirty in a row, you know, and you're the 708 00:36:43,160 --> 00:36:45,560 Speaker 2: new age Bear Bryant, that has to go in one 709 00:36:45,600 --> 00:36:47,600 Speaker 2: ear and out the other. If you've lost five in 710 00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:50,040 Speaker 2: a row and they think you're terrible, that has to 711 00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:52,520 Speaker 2: go in one ear and out the other. The better 712 00:36:52,560 --> 00:36:56,920 Speaker 2: of the fear over faith crowd and it's bubbling, you know, 713 00:36:57,080 --> 00:36:59,719 Speaker 2: outside of your covenant, but the fear over faith crowd 714 00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:02,440 Speaker 2: is worried about the quarterback and the portal because you 715 00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:05,640 Speaker 2: hit on one, you hit on a quarterback man, and 716 00:37:05,640 --> 00:37:08,680 Speaker 2: and they think the wolves will come calling, if ever 717 00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:10,520 Speaker 2: the case, how does one handle that one? 718 00:37:12,040 --> 00:37:13,960 Speaker 4: Well, if you've ever been camping, you always know the 719 00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:17,080 Speaker 4: wolves are out there. You know, it's your job is 720 00:37:17,120 --> 00:37:19,439 Speaker 4: set up a really good campsite and a really good 721 00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:20,719 Speaker 4: place for the wolves. 722 00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:22,719 Speaker 1: And bears can't get you there we go. 723 00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:25,239 Speaker 4: I don't worry about those things, you know what I 724 00:37:25,480 --> 00:37:27,200 Speaker 4: know what we worry about is creating one of the 725 00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:32,400 Speaker 4: greatest experiences life experiences, dynamic experiences that a student athlete, 726 00:37:32,680 --> 00:37:36,759 Speaker 4: a football player can absolutely have every single day. And 727 00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:38,880 Speaker 4: that's what we create. And if people are going to 728 00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:41,839 Speaker 4: value that, they'll stay. If they're not going to value that, 729 00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:45,920 Speaker 4: they're going to leave. That's the new world of college athletics. 730 00:37:46,280 --> 00:37:48,960 Speaker 4: But our job and my job is to create one 731 00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:52,719 Speaker 4: of the best, most dynamic experiences in all of college athletics. 732 00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:55,239 Speaker 4: Where we've already had a lot of players turned down 733 00:37:55,239 --> 00:37:57,960 Speaker 4: a ton of money, a ton of money PA and 734 00:37:58,120 --> 00:38:01,239 Speaker 4: maybe not not even fair. You know, when you're looking 735 00:38:01,280 --> 00:38:03,040 Speaker 4: at it, like, how can a young person turn down 736 00:38:03,040 --> 00:38:04,839 Speaker 4: that much money? To stay in this program. And I'm 737 00:38:04,840 --> 00:38:07,399 Speaker 4: not saying we're perfect. Yeah, we've lost our fair share, 738 00:38:07,640 --> 00:38:10,640 Speaker 4: but we want to make sure that we create an 739 00:38:10,719 --> 00:38:14,120 Speaker 4: unbelievable experience where we can have those transactions, but they 740 00:38:14,120 --> 00:38:17,879 Speaker 4: stay because it's transformational. Again, we have a long way 741 00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:21,359 Speaker 4: to go. We were one to zero, that's all that meant, yep. 742 00:38:21,520 --> 00:38:24,439 Speaker 4: But we also go after the right fit that want 743 00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:27,879 Speaker 4: to be developed and we feel Drakes that type of kid. 744 00:38:28,440 --> 00:38:29,359 Speaker 1: A few more for PJ. 745 00:38:29,480 --> 00:38:33,080 Speaker 6: Flack Parker, Yeah, coach, looking forward to next Saturday two 746 00:38:33,120 --> 00:38:36,920 Speaker 6: thirty at Kinnick. This this Iowa team, they don't they 747 00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:39,400 Speaker 6: don't poise a huge passing threat. They only throw the 748 00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:42,200 Speaker 6: ball sixteen times last game. But as you know, Iowa 749 00:38:42,280 --> 00:38:44,279 Speaker 6: loves to run the football. We saw nine carries for 750 00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:47,719 Speaker 6: one hundred and thirty yards from their quarterback Gronowski. Is 751 00:38:47,719 --> 00:38:49,279 Speaker 6: that something you have to kind of keep a spy on. 752 00:38:49,320 --> 00:38:51,960 Speaker 6: And what kind of rushing threat does Iowa really pose, 753 00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:53,960 Speaker 6: especially at home in front of their home crowd. 754 00:38:54,920 --> 00:38:57,359 Speaker 4: Yeah, we'll think about Iowa. For people who know much 755 00:38:57,360 --> 00:38:59,279 Speaker 4: about Iowa, one have a ton of respect for what 756 00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:01,120 Speaker 4: they do and how they do. Kirk Ference is the 757 00:39:01,160 --> 00:39:06,160 Speaker 4: absolute legend in college football of transformational developmental programs. And 758 00:39:06,920 --> 00:39:08,360 Speaker 4: I have a ton of respects from them. I know 759 00:39:08,440 --> 00:39:10,520 Speaker 4: were rivals, but when you look at it, I was 760 00:39:10,520 --> 00:39:12,040 Speaker 4: always been really good at running the ball, right. They 761 00:39:12,120 --> 00:39:13,919 Speaker 4: got a great offensive line, they got great tight ends. 762 00:39:14,120 --> 00:39:17,359 Speaker 4: Their backs are so disciplined and dynamic. Their receivers can 763 00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:20,560 Speaker 4: make plays. Now a sudden, you throw a running quarterback 764 00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:23,720 Speaker 4: that can also throw, but he's built like a running 765 00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:27,160 Speaker 4: back in that running game. I mean, that's what's so 766 00:39:27,320 --> 00:39:31,040 Speaker 4: dangerous about them. They've made themselves even more dangerous than 767 00:39:31,040 --> 00:39:33,600 Speaker 4: they've ever been in the running department by adding a 768 00:39:33,680 --> 00:39:36,640 Speaker 4: quarterback who has the ability to run as well as throw, 769 00:39:36,680 --> 00:39:38,480 Speaker 4: and I mean run like a running back, not just 770 00:39:38,600 --> 00:39:41,560 Speaker 4: run to scramble. Ton of respects for what they do. 771 00:39:42,120 --> 00:39:44,280 Speaker 4: Very very difficult to stop, and as you can see, 772 00:39:44,920 --> 00:39:45,879 Speaker 4: not many teams are. 773 00:39:48,040 --> 00:39:50,440 Speaker 2: And with that Nebraska win, just for a second, this 774 00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:54,760 Speaker 2: just hit me is the resolve that you guys displayed 775 00:39:54,800 --> 00:39:57,799 Speaker 2: after that Ohio State game and when you joined nine 776 00:39:57,840 --> 00:39:59,680 Speaker 2: to noon and you're like, hey, sometimes you just got 777 00:39:59,719 --> 00:40:02,880 Speaker 2: to tip your cap offensively, defensively and special teams coaching 778 00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:03,400 Speaker 2: and playing. 779 00:40:03,920 --> 00:40:04,680 Speaker 1: They just did it. 780 00:40:04,719 --> 00:40:06,400 Speaker 2: I mean they were nine to ten and we weren't, 781 00:40:07,239 --> 00:40:09,680 Speaker 2: and so therefore let's move on. Okay, Well you still 782 00:40:09,680 --> 00:40:13,000 Speaker 2: got to move on. So what do you do? Nobody solved? 783 00:40:13,120 --> 00:40:17,200 Speaker 2: Clearly you'll want to type one versus Perdue. Friday was 784 00:40:17,280 --> 00:40:20,560 Speaker 2: kind of a big spot at home and against a 785 00:40:20,640 --> 00:40:24,799 Speaker 2: ranked team, and you dusted them. I mean, that's good. 786 00:40:25,040 --> 00:40:29,000 Speaker 2: That's culture right there. Culture is such an overused and 787 00:40:29,160 --> 00:40:32,680 Speaker 2: trite word this day and age, but in this case 788 00:40:32,800 --> 00:40:35,960 Speaker 2: it's not, I would imagine, because if you don't have resolve, 789 00:40:36,320 --> 00:40:38,319 Speaker 2: then you've got major, major problems after that. 790 00:40:38,360 --> 00:40:39,439 Speaker 1: Buckeye's lost. Right. 791 00:40:40,680 --> 00:40:42,840 Speaker 4: Well, yeah, I think the word culture gets used and 792 00:40:42,880 --> 00:40:46,279 Speaker 4: abused constantly to your point, right, because I don't think 793 00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:48,600 Speaker 4: enough people define it and they don't really know what 794 00:40:48,640 --> 00:40:52,000 Speaker 4: it is. It's kind of like momentum. To me, it's 795 00:40:52,040 --> 00:40:54,399 Speaker 4: like Pixie does. It's like this word people use, yeah 796 00:40:54,600 --> 00:40:57,480 Speaker 4: for somebody really bad defense or really bad offense or 797 00:40:57,480 --> 00:41:00,960 Speaker 4: really like I just don't believe in that piece. I 798 00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:03,200 Speaker 4: believe in like it's either really good for a reason 799 00:41:03,280 --> 00:41:05,439 Speaker 4: or really bad for a reason. Fix the reason, right, 800 00:41:05,880 --> 00:41:09,719 Speaker 4: And and so we define culture as basically just how 801 00:41:09,760 --> 00:41:13,319 Speaker 4: you connect people. That's all culture does, whether you're talking 802 00:41:13,320 --> 00:41:15,279 Speaker 4: about a religion, whether you're talking about a team, whether 803 00:41:15,280 --> 00:41:17,400 Speaker 4: you're talking about business, whether you're talking about. 804 00:41:17,960 --> 00:41:18,799 Speaker 1: You know, k fan. 805 00:41:19,400 --> 00:41:22,640 Speaker 4: There's a culture around that environment that connects people so 806 00:41:23,200 --> 00:41:25,520 Speaker 4: and it's not about just when things are going good. 807 00:41:25,880 --> 00:41:28,080 Speaker 4: How do you connect people when things aren't going bad. 808 00:41:28,400 --> 00:41:30,200 Speaker 4: To be a really good winner, Pa, you got to 809 00:41:30,239 --> 00:41:32,040 Speaker 4: learn how to lose. You don't want to lose, but 810 00:41:32,080 --> 00:41:34,280 Speaker 4: you got to learn how to lose. And our weekly 811 00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:37,040 Speaker 4: themes allow us to turn the page no matter if 812 00:41:37,080 --> 00:41:39,880 Speaker 4: it was good or bad. Nothing blends into the week before. 813 00:41:40,280 --> 00:41:43,160 Speaker 4: We literally have a completely different theme every week. We 814 00:41:43,239 --> 00:41:45,319 Speaker 4: have a theme of the year, but then we have 815 00:41:45,360 --> 00:41:49,520 Speaker 4: different musical groups that we study every week, and it 816 00:41:49,719 --> 00:41:52,840 Speaker 4: turns the page. It's a completely different week. It's a 817 00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:57,239 Speaker 4: completely different focus. It's almost impossible to keep thinking about 818 00:41:57,239 --> 00:42:00,319 Speaker 4: the week before, whether we win or lose. And this 819 00:42:00,360 --> 00:42:04,000 Speaker 4: week's game, people are saying, like, it looked like your identity, 820 00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:07,200 Speaker 4: What is our identity? Identity should be what it takes 821 00:42:07,280 --> 00:42:09,880 Speaker 4: to win the game? People always say, well, we want balance. 822 00:42:09,960 --> 00:42:13,000 Speaker 4: Everybody wants balance. But balance is can you win the 823 00:42:13,040 --> 00:42:16,080 Speaker 4: game by throwing if you have to? And can you 824 00:42:16,120 --> 00:42:18,520 Speaker 4: win the game by running if you have to? And 825 00:42:18,600 --> 00:42:20,759 Speaker 4: in a perfect world. You love to do both, but 826 00:42:21,280 --> 00:42:24,160 Speaker 4: they get paid to they're out scholarship, their coaches are good, 827 00:42:24,600 --> 00:42:29,120 Speaker 4: so sometimes they take that away. So your identity has 828 00:42:29,120 --> 00:42:30,799 Speaker 4: to be what it takes to win the football game 829 00:42:30,840 --> 00:42:33,600 Speaker 4: within that particular football game. And you look at that 830 00:42:33,680 --> 00:42:36,239 Speaker 4: culture that Shoot, look at yesterday and that comeback for 831 00:42:36,320 --> 00:42:40,879 Speaker 4: the Broncos. We what an unbelievable comeback. That's happened two 832 00:42:40,920 --> 00:42:42,919 Speaker 4: times out of what a three thirty five hundred games, 833 00:42:43,280 --> 00:42:46,160 Speaker 4: four thousand games. But you can see that that was 834 00:42:46,200 --> 00:42:49,160 Speaker 4: deeper than just plays. That was a belief system, that 835 00:42:49,280 --> 00:42:52,040 Speaker 4: was a culture, that was that was people doing it 836 00:42:52,480 --> 00:42:55,000 Speaker 4: and they had to maybe go away from an identity. 837 00:42:55,480 --> 00:42:58,000 Speaker 4: And again, I think you hit it right on the 838 00:42:58,000 --> 00:42:59,560 Speaker 4: head when you talk about this word culture. I think 839 00:42:59,560 --> 00:43:02,360 Speaker 4: it's just it gets thrown around and people want to 840 00:43:02,400 --> 00:43:04,879 Speaker 4: like not talk about it or talk about it too much. 841 00:43:05,160 --> 00:43:06,440 Speaker 1: It is what it is. It's how you. 842 00:43:06,360 --> 00:43:09,480 Speaker 4: Connect people in good times and bad times. And can 843 00:43:09,480 --> 00:43:10,560 Speaker 4: you respond from all that? 844 00:43:10,719 --> 00:43:14,040 Speaker 2: Meanwhile, what musical group are you studying this week? And 845 00:43:14,160 --> 00:43:16,719 Speaker 2: have you guys ever gone down the road of Parliament 846 00:43:16,719 --> 00:43:20,760 Speaker 2: Funkadelic with George Clinton and Bootsy Collins playing the bass. 847 00:43:22,160 --> 00:43:24,080 Speaker 4: You know, we haven't done that, but we've done the 848 00:43:24,160 --> 00:43:27,160 Speaker 4: Great how Dad that was a few weeks ago. We 849 00:43:27,200 --> 00:43:30,719 Speaker 4: did Kenny Howe's ny which is Kenny Cheese. We've done 850 00:43:30,719 --> 00:43:35,759 Speaker 4: a bunch. We did the Red how Chili Peppers, so 851 00:43:35,800 --> 00:43:38,040 Speaker 4: we do all that. We did the Notorious Howe, that 852 00:43:38,160 --> 00:43:40,600 Speaker 4: of the Notorious b Igus, Notorious House. It's always has 853 00:43:40,640 --> 00:43:43,000 Speaker 4: them how in there. That's our culture. How we play 854 00:43:43,120 --> 00:43:45,960 Speaker 4: I got it matters right, So yeah, and know we 855 00:43:46,000 --> 00:43:49,200 Speaker 4: play that music all week and that's why probably people 856 00:43:49,200 --> 00:43:49,920 Speaker 4: think I'm insane. 857 00:43:50,040 --> 00:43:55,560 Speaker 2: Well Parliament Howidelic with Atomic Dog and Flashlight and some 858 00:43:55,640 --> 00:43:57,960 Speaker 2: really really funky songs. You know, I think you guys 859 00:43:58,000 --> 00:44:00,440 Speaker 2: would like or you have the greatest do in the 860 00:44:00,480 --> 00:44:01,280 Speaker 2: history of music. 861 00:44:01,680 --> 00:44:06,319 Speaker 1: How and Oats drop some how and Oates in there. 862 00:44:06,360 --> 00:44:08,160 Speaker 2: I don't know if they like it, but nevertheless it 863 00:44:08,239 --> 00:44:09,759 Speaker 2: kind of fits the theme, you know what I mean? 864 00:44:12,040 --> 00:44:16,000 Speaker 4: Absolutely. I remember I am my product. At the end 865 00:44:16,040 --> 00:44:18,759 Speaker 4: of the day, Pa, it's eighteen to twenty three year olds. 866 00:44:18,840 --> 00:44:20,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll never forget the product. 867 00:44:20,840 --> 00:44:23,640 Speaker 4: It's not an iPhone, it's not an iPad, it's not airbuds, 868 00:44:23,880 --> 00:44:26,799 Speaker 4: it's it's people. It's an eighteen to twenty three year 869 00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:30,319 Speaker 4: old non developed brain that I've got to find a 870 00:44:30,360 --> 00:44:33,799 Speaker 4: way to connect with. So maybe I'll do that one 871 00:44:33,840 --> 00:44:36,160 Speaker 4: because we do do a lot of learning in this 872 00:44:36,280 --> 00:44:38,959 Speaker 4: because we got to hit every genre, so I didn't 873 00:44:39,000 --> 00:44:40,920 Speaker 4: hit that genre yet, So I think that's a good one. 874 00:44:40,920 --> 00:44:41,440 Speaker 6: We'll pick it. 875 00:44:41,520 --> 00:44:45,840 Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, you have you have how and Oats and 876 00:44:46,360 --> 00:44:49,400 Speaker 2: I'm quickly trying to find you a song here that 877 00:44:49,440 --> 00:44:50,239 Speaker 2: I think you would like. 878 00:44:50,360 --> 00:44:53,040 Speaker 4: But rich Girl, right, Rich Girl's a song from now 879 00:44:53,040 --> 00:44:53,560 Speaker 4: it oats? Right? 880 00:44:53,640 --> 00:44:55,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, Well that's how An Oats and kiss on my 881 00:44:55,440 --> 00:44:57,680 Speaker 2: list in private eyes and I can't go for that. 882 00:44:58,120 --> 00:45:03,399 Speaker 2: But Parliament, how delic with George Clinton on lead? All right, Hey, 883 00:45:03,440 --> 00:45:06,240 Speaker 2: were there any potential high end recruits on the sideline 884 00:45:06,280 --> 00:45:10,200 Speaker 2: Friday night? Because of their words like come one, come all. 885 00:45:09,960 --> 00:45:13,719 Speaker 4: Boys, they're sure where there are twenty seven recruits, twenty 886 00:45:13,760 --> 00:45:16,239 Speaker 4: six recruits, some of our best commits were there? A 887 00:45:16,239 --> 00:45:18,000 Speaker 4: lot of players that we really want to be Gophers 888 00:45:18,040 --> 00:45:21,080 Speaker 4: were there. It was awesome. And then not only that, 889 00:45:21,120 --> 00:45:23,760 Speaker 4: we got to induct you know, Greg Eslinger and celebrate 890 00:45:23,800 --> 00:45:26,879 Speaker 4: his induction into the College Football Hall of Fame as well. 891 00:45:27,520 --> 00:45:30,759 Speaker 4: What an atmosphere. And you looked nine years ago when 892 00:45:30,800 --> 00:45:33,239 Speaker 4: we got here and I just didn't feel that type 893 00:45:33,280 --> 00:45:35,440 Speaker 4: of atmosphere. And now when you look at our games, 894 00:45:35,480 --> 00:45:38,480 Speaker 4: it's a credit to our administration, Mike urz Vicki and 895 00:45:38,520 --> 00:45:42,000 Speaker 4: his staff, Mills and his staff, Like there is an 896 00:45:42,040 --> 00:45:44,279 Speaker 4: experience when you come to Hunting the Bank Stadium and 897 00:45:44,680 --> 00:45:45,920 Speaker 4: that was a lot of fun the other night. 898 00:45:46,440 --> 00:45:47,399 Speaker 1: I appreciate you man. 899 00:45:47,760 --> 00:45:50,640 Speaker 2: Best of luck against the Hawkeyes this weekend and we 900 00:45:50,680 --> 00:45:51,640 Speaker 2: will chat very soon. 901 00:45:51,680 --> 00:45:53,239 Speaker 1: Thank you, PJ. That was fantastic. 902 00:45:54,040 --> 00:45:56,600 Speaker 4: Appreciate Broe both scam and go Gophers. Is govite. 903 00:45:56,600 --> 00:45:58,719 Speaker 2: Thanks guys, yep see you about PJ Black, coach of 904 00:45:58,719 --> 00:46:02,000 Speaker 2: the Golden Gophers football team. Uh the border battle against 905 00:46:02,239 --> 00:46:04,400 Speaker 2: the Iowa Hawkeyes on k f A in the middle 906 00:46:04,400 --> 00:46:05,880 Speaker 2: of the afternoon this Saturday. 907 00:46:06,320 --> 00:46:07,080 Speaker 1: We'll be right back