WEBVTT - Bengals Roundtable 10/8/26

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<v Speaker 3>All right, here we go.

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<v Speaker 4>It's Thursday night, 6.07 on 700 WLW.

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<v Speaker 5>It must be the roundtable show.

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<v Speaker 4>Long necks in Wilder. We do it for three hours.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm Lance McAllister. He is Rocky Boyman. The second of

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<v Speaker 4>a three-week run here. We've got a fantastic setup. We

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<v Speaker 4>love our setup here. There's plenty of TVs and outstanding

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<v Speaker 4>food and beer to be had. Prizes to be given away.

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<v Speaker 4>Details to follow. I will say this at the start, Rock,

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<v Speaker 4>none of this in the first four weeks of the season,

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<v Speaker 4>none of this is going according to plan because they

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<v Speaker 4>were not supposed to be two and two. And I

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<v Speaker 4>might need to call on you tonight. You know, I

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<v Speaker 4>can get a little wound up. I can get a

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<v Speaker 4>little on edge. I'm going to need you as the

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<v Speaker 4>former player to lend perspective and say, Lance, it's only.

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<v Speaker 5>Four games and there's 13 left.

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<v Speaker 4>But my response to that all week has been, I'm

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<v Speaker 4>not calling the season over by any stretch of the imagination.

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<v Speaker 5>It's 2-2, and there's 13 games left.

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<v Speaker 4>That's 76.4% of the season, according to my Butler math.

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<v Speaker 4>The problem is, they're already behind the eight ball and

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<v Speaker 4>chasing stuff. When you lose to the Steelers, when you

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<v Speaker 4>had no business losing to the Steelers, when you lose

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<v Speaker 4>at home to Jacksonville, and both of those were winnable games,

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<v Speaker 4>I get you're not going to win them all. I

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<v Speaker 4>feel like we're back in a position we've been talking

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<v Speaker 4>about seemingly every year of a clunky, slower start, making

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<v Speaker 4>things more difficult than it has to be and reducing

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<v Speaker 4>the margin of error and making it harder throughout the rest.

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<v Speaker 3>Of the season.

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<v Speaker 6>Is this a bad time to mention the Bengals' two

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<v Speaker 6>wins are over teams that are currently winless?

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<v Speaker 3>And if they win this weekend... I didn't know if

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<v Speaker 3>you knew that. This weekend would make it three wins

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<v Speaker 3>over three teams without a win.

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<v Speaker 6>No, look, I don't think there is panic. I think

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<v Speaker 6>that's ridiculous. But to your point, this.

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<v Speaker 3>Was the season, right? This was the season where.

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<v Speaker 6>It wasn't like, man, hopefully let's fight scratch and claw

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<v Speaker 6>and make it to the playoffs. It was like, we're

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<v Speaker 6>going after that first round by home playoff game.

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<v Speaker 3>That was kind of the expectation.

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<v Speaker 6>And everything leading to the offseason fit that to a tee.

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<v Speaker 6>Dexter Lawrence signing, which has been mentioned 10 million times.

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<v Speaker 3>Aggressive and free agency. Aggressive and free agency.

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<v Speaker 6>All those things that led up to a camp went great.

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<v Speaker 6>First couple weeks looked great, and then it's just been–

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<v Speaker 6>it hasn't gone well since. So, yeah, I think there's

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<v Speaker 6>a little bit of panic in that this is not

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<v Speaker 6>how it was supposed to be.

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<v Speaker 3>Not this season, not this roster.

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<v Speaker 6>Yes, there's still plenty of football to be played, but

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<v Speaker 6>we're back in that thing where we didn't want to be,

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<v Speaker 6>which is, man, looking back at that one game, that

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<v Speaker 6>one game in September, if the Bengals just won that,

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<v Speaker 6>things could be so much different, but here we are.

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<v Speaker 4>And I guess what I keep going back to, I

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<v Speaker 4>will hear people, and they will tell me, But they

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<v Speaker 4>always start slow, or the offense is always clunky early,

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<v Speaker 4>or the run game takes a while to get going.

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<v Speaker 3>Look at last year, six weeks in. It wasn't much.

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<v Speaker 4>And then they got rolling and Chase Brown was dynamite

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<v Speaker 4>the rest of the year. And my response to that

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<v Speaker 4>each time is, well, isn't the bigger point why it

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<v Speaker 4>always takes that amount of time to get it up

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<v Speaker 4>and running and figured out? What's happening in the first

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<v Speaker 4>month of a season that takes Zach Taylor and the

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<v Speaker 4>coaches that long to adjust to seemingly year after year

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<v Speaker 4>after year?

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<v Speaker 3>And isn't the point of.

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<v Speaker 6>a season and an off-season learning from what you did

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<v Speaker 6>the last season or five seasons and make that better

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<v Speaker 6>so you don't have those.

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<v Speaker 4>And let's remember, this is an offense that part of the,

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<v Speaker 4>one of the talking points was, wow, they have all

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<v Speaker 4>five starting offensive linemen coming back and all their skill

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<v Speaker 4>guys coming back.

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<v Speaker 3>They didn't lose anybody.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, the beauty of continuity is you should be

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<v Speaker 4>past things, not re-dealing or dealing with things again.

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<v Speaker 3>That's just, ugh. Yeah, you could make the argument if

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<v Speaker 3>there was a bunch of new pieces. And, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>some of the main pieces.

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<v Speaker 6>Were there, but they still, yeah, the left side of

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<v Speaker 6>the offensive line. But continuity can't be the excuse because

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<v Speaker 6>these guys have been together for a long time.

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<v Speaker 3>But here we are.

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<v Speaker 5>Can I do some headlines and we'll go? All right,

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<v Speaker 5>let's start with those headlines.

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<v Speaker 4>Mike Petralia will check in at about eight minutes from

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<v Speaker 4>Mark with a full update. Let me give you the

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<v Speaker 4>Cliff Notes version of the injury report today with the

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<v Speaker 4>Bengals back on the practice field. Jamar Chase and Brian

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<v Speaker 4>Cook limited. Dalton Reisner limited. Dexter Lawrence was limited. T.

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<v Speaker 4>Higgins did not practice. Kyle Duggar did not practice. Jordan

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<v Speaker 4>Battle was a full go. We'll get in-depth with Traggs

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<v Speaker 4>on what that means perhaps for Sunday coming up in

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<v Speaker 4>a bit. Thursday night football, Tampa Bay and Dallas, 7.30

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<v Speaker 4>on Fox Sports 1360. Baseball playoffs, Game 4, White Sox

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<v Speaker 4>and Guardians at 8 o'clock with the Sox up two

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<v Speaker 4>games to one in the series. Meanwhile, the Rays get

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<v Speaker 4>the winner of the Sox and Guardians. The Dodgers and

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<v Speaker 4>Brewers will start in the NLCS on, I think that's

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<v Speaker 4>on Sunday. The NFL has, or the Major League Baseball, rather,

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<v Speaker 4>has proposed returning to a 154-game regular season and a

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<v Speaker 4>best-of-seven division series and, adding this element, Opponent selection in

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<v Speaker 4>the wildcard and division rounds of who the top seed

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<v Speaker 4>wants to play of the remaining season. They pick your opponent?

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<v Speaker 4>They pick your opponent, yes.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow.

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<v Speaker 4>Starting in 2029, shortening the season would create a standard

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<v Speaker 4>weekly day off, benefiting player health. and it would allow

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<v Speaker 4>the addition of up to eight more postseason games.

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<v Speaker 5>It's always about the money.

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<v Speaker 4>By moving to a best-of-seven division format, getting in 2027,

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<v Speaker 4>the higher-seeded clubs in the wild card and the division

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<v Speaker 4>series would select their opponent in what I'm sure would

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<v Speaker 4>be a made-for-TV event with all the executives in the room.

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<v Speaker 3>And your selection is? It would certainly be different.

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<v Speaker 4>And the idea is, and this is not surprising because

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<v Speaker 4>everything is driven by money, you would have everybody off

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<v Speaker 4>on Mondays except for maybe two games being played, like

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<v Speaker 4>an 8 o'clock and West Coast game, and baseball would

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<v Speaker 4>be able to sell that in an exclusive window and

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<v Speaker 4>get more money.

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<v Speaker 3>Must-see event. Yes.

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<v Speaker 4>There's no minor league games on Monday, and there'd be

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<v Speaker 4>nobody else playing on Monday in baseball, just the featured

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<v Speaker 4>8 o'clock, say, and 10 o'clock game, and baseball would

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<v Speaker 4>then be able to say to advertisers, look at this,

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<v Speaker 4>a lot of eyeballs here.

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<v Speaker 3>I feel like baseball purists are going to hate this,

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<v Speaker 3>all those things you said.

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<v Speaker 4>And for those, so everybody else would be off on Monday,

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<v Speaker 4>and the four teams that would play on Monday then

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<v Speaker 4>get an off day on Thursday. So everybody gets one

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<v Speaker 4>day off during the week throughout the season. That means

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<v Speaker 4>adding some double-headers in the season as well. All right,

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<v Speaker 4>high school football. Hamilton County Common Pleas Court preliminary injunction

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<v Speaker 4>hearing scheduled for this morning involving elder wide receiver Andrew

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<v Speaker 4>Lyman's eligibility was canceled today. The parties reached a settlement agreement.

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<v Speaker 4>Lyman can play additional games. According to the Ohio High

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<v Speaker 4>School Athletic Association, they did not go into detail on

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<v Speaker 4>what that means. I am told by those close to

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<v Speaker 4>the situation, he's been granted the ability to play the

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<v Speaker 4>remainder of the regular.

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<v Speaker 5>Season and one postseason game, which is interesting.

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<v Speaker 3>How did they come up with that?

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<v Speaker 5>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 4>That's what I've been told by those close to the situation.

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<v Speaker 4>He'll play the rest of the year and the first

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<v Speaker 4>playoff game. We'll see. That's what I've been told. FC

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<v Speaker 4>Cincinnati getting ready. It's interesting the OHSAA simply didn't reveal

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<v Speaker 4>what it actually is. They said additional games and left

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<v Speaker 4>it at that. Instead, it would be up to Elder

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<v Speaker 4>to explain the rest, basically, which I find interesting.

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<v Speaker 3>Would Elder want to explain the rest?

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<v Speaker 5>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 4>FC Cincinnati getting ready for a Saturday road matchup in

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<v Speaker 4>Atlanta United FC.

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<v Speaker 3>7.30.

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<v Speaker 4>Laurel Thaler of Queen City Press reports that Pat Noonan

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<v Speaker 4>said today that Evander picked up a knock In the

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<v Speaker 4>Montreal game, a knock is an injury.

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<v Speaker 3>I like that.

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<v Speaker 5>Soccer calls it a knock. You're not hurt or injured

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<v Speaker 5>in soccer.

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<v Speaker 3>You've got to knock.

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<v Speaker 5>I've got to knock.

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<v Speaker 3>I think the NFL should do that. I like it.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's look at.

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<v Speaker 4>The injury report. Who's got a knock? T. Higgins has

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<v Speaker 4>a knock. It could, in terms of Evander's injury, he

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<v Speaker 4>could get through it. Thought he could get through it initially.

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<v Speaker 4>Turned out worse than expected. He'll be out Saturday.

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<v Speaker 5>A timeline. To be determined.

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<v Speaker 4>That is a look at your headlines. Dude, I forget

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<v Speaker 4>we've got a giveaway tonight, as we do each and

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<v Speaker 4>every week. Your servers have, what do we call them?

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<v Speaker 4>Not lottery tickets.

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<v Speaker 3>Just tickets. Tickets. Just tickets. Raffle tickets. There you go.

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<v Speaker 3>Mike Mills here. Look at him.

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<v Speaker 4>Multi-talented engineer. Raffle tickets. Drop them in the bucket, and

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<v Speaker 4>we'll draw. You've got to be here at 9 o'clock

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<v Speaker 4>when we draw for the very cool long-necked Bengal shirt,

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<v Speaker 4>and it puts you in the drawing the opportunity for

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<v Speaker 4>next week's. T. Higgins print that is behind the bar

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<v Speaker 4>right now. You may see that, the number five over

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<v Speaker 4>there on the corner. We give away that the third

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<v Speaker 4>week of each of our stops. We make the tour

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<v Speaker 4>around the Longnecks throughout the area. This is our second

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<v Speaker 4>of three. We are very happy to be here.

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<v Speaker 5>All right, I think we're set.

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<v Speaker 4>When we come back, that guy, what's his name? He

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<v Speaker 4>used to do a weekly for us, and he hasn't

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<v Speaker 4>done it the last two weeks. I forget his name.

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<v Speaker 3>Triggs?

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<v Speaker 7>Triggs?

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<v Speaker 5>Something like that. We'll figure it out. He'll join us next,

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<v Speaker 5>I believe.

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<v Speaker 4>he with the Y.com, host of the Jungle War podcast,

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<v Speaker 4>the man we call Trags, Mike Petraglia. Trags, let's start with,

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<v Speaker 4>we could probably do a whole segment on injuries. Let's

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<v Speaker 4>just give everybody the three names they're probably most waiting for.

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<v Speaker 4>What's your sense of T, Jamar, and Brian Cook right now?

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<v Speaker 8>I'd say Jamar is promising, guys, because he was on

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<v Speaker 8>the field today. Saw him in the locker room. He

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<v Speaker 8>was laughing, joking around. Talked to... Because Jamar.

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<v Speaker 9>Chase didn't hold his weekly Thursday.

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<v Speaker 8>Press conference, talked to Dante Myers, and Dante Myers said

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<v Speaker 8>everybody was joking with him.

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<v Speaker 9>Had great energy.

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<v Speaker 8>So I don't know, read between the lines.

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<v Speaker 10>I think Jamar Chase.

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<v Speaker 8>If everything goes okay tomorrow, will clear concussion protocol, he'll

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<v Speaker 8>be ready. I think the soft tissue injury, the adductor

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<v Speaker 8>issue in the groin area with T.

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<v Speaker 5>Higgins, I.

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<v Speaker 8>No pun intended, but a more sensitive issue. I don't

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<v Speaker 8>think they want to press it with T, especially given his.

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<v Speaker 8>Soft tissue injuries in the past.

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<v Speaker 9>I think they allow him.

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<v Speaker 8>Another week off, and then the bye week, and then

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<v Speaker 8>come back against Baltimore, in Baltimore, fully ready to go.

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<v Speaker 8>And then with Brian Cook, he spoke to us in

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<v Speaker 8>the locker room today, and he's going to do everything

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<v Speaker 8>he can to be on the field, and I think

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<v Speaker 8>he's going to be on the field.

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<v Speaker 9>I think he went through some.

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<v Speaker 8>Work on the rehab fields with his full pads, full

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<v Speaker 8>gear on, and he was limited in practice.

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<v Speaker 9>So I think he's going to be.

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<v Speaker 10>He's going to give it a go.

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<v Speaker 8>So I would say Jamar Chase is most likely. I'd

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<v Speaker 8>say Brian Cook is possible.

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<v Speaker 9>And I'd say T. Higgins, very unlikely.

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<v Speaker 6>Chad, it's interesting, you know, this week, a lot of

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<v Speaker 6>conversation about the run game and did they abandon it

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<v Speaker 6>too early? And, you know, Joe Burrow has the comment

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<v Speaker 6>of like, okay, maybe we need to throw it more.

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<v Speaker 6>Where do you fall on the, I guess, should the

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<v Speaker 6>Bengals have abandoned the run game? And just your thoughts

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<v Speaker 6>on that conversation right there.

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<v Speaker 8>They just need Rocky to do a better job of

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<v Speaker 8>running the ball. They need to find better schemes for

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<v Speaker 8>getting Chase Brown into the game plan earlier in games.

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<v Speaker 8>And that means getting the lead. The biggest problem I

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<v Speaker 8>had last week in the first half was not going

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<v Speaker 8>forward on fourth and one at the 44th. You've got

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<v Speaker 8>in the NFL, if you are worth your weight in

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<v Speaker 8>gold and you are the team that the Bengals purport

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<v Speaker 8>to be a championship caliber club, then you've got.

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<v Speaker 9>To be able to get one yard.

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<v Speaker 10>Early in the game, especially when your.

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<v Speaker 8>Defense had just turned over the Jacksonville Jaguars on a

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<v Speaker 8>three and out. You've got to be able to march

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<v Speaker 8>down the field and to have to punt in that

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<v Speaker 8>situation is And be unable.

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<v Speaker 9>To run the ball for a yard.

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<v Speaker 8>Really is pretty damning to the physicality.

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<v Speaker 9>The mentality of that offense.

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<v Speaker 8>And I think they were fighting behind the eight ball

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<v Speaker 8>the entire game because of that one drive.

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<v Speaker 10>That's my sense.

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<v Speaker 8>So if the Bengals really want to establish.

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<v Speaker 10>A run, they've got to do it early in games.

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<v Speaker 8>They've got to do it with a physicality and not

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<v Speaker 8>just chase Brown, but throw some Ajay Pirine in there

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<v Speaker 8>as well.

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<v Speaker 9>They've got to be more physical in.

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<v Speaker 10>The run game and in the short.

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<v Speaker 8>Passing game to set up, you know, a longer attack

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<v Speaker 8>down the field.

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<v Speaker 4>Tregs, you talked with Ted Karras on Monday. Are you

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<v Speaker 4>surprised with continuity, such a talking point for this offensive

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<v Speaker 4>line this year and everybody coming back, are you surprised

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<v Speaker 4>the offensive line has experienced the issues they have?

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<v Speaker 9>A little bit.

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<v Speaker 8>I think Orlando Brown has done the best possible job

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<v Speaker 8>of shoring up his play after a rough couple of

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<v Speaker 8>weeks to start the year. I think even he would

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<v Speaker 8>acknowledge that. Zach Taylor certainly has acknowledged that they've given

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<v Speaker 8>him some help on his side of the offensive line.

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<v Speaker 8>I also think Dalton Reisner is reaching a point of

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<v Speaker 8>no return where that knee injury of his, his left knee,

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<v Speaker 8>they're reaching a point where they're going to have to

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<v Speaker 8>take him out of the lineup.

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<v Speaker 9>Because as much as.

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<v Speaker 8>We love Dalton Reisner and he is a terrific leader

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<v Speaker 8>along that offensive line, he has been a liability, no

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<v Speaker 8>other way to put it, because he's injured. And you

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<v Speaker 8>can't have a liability. And he's their best run blocker. Well,

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<v Speaker 8>he may be their best run blocker, but if he's

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<v Speaker 8>playing on one leg, what good does that do you?

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<v Speaker 8>So that's where I think the Bengals are hurting is

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<v Speaker 8>right in the interior of that offensive line. Do they

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<v Speaker 8>put someone in like Jalen Rivers this Sunday if Dalton

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<v Speaker 8>Reisner is too sore to go? Do they go with

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<v Speaker 8>Jacob Bayer, who looked really good in the training camp,

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<v Speaker 8>looked really good in preseason? Do they decide to go

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<v Speaker 8>in that direction? That's where I think the Bengals have...

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<v Speaker 8>some tough decisions to make.

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<v Speaker 6>I just wonder if, if a lot of this comes

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<v Speaker 6>down to this Bengals offensive line was built to protect

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<v Speaker 6>the pastor. They are not, you know, you know, like stalwart,

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<v Speaker 6>Run blockers. And now you're throwing injuries on top of it.

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<v Speaker 6>And on top of that, you've got a quarterback who's

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<v Speaker 6>said many times, I like throwing the football.

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<v Speaker 3>So it's almost like, you know, it doesn't match. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>it doesn't match.

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<v Speaker 6>And like we're expecting this dominant run game that we're

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<v Speaker 6>not built for. And the quarterback doesn't seem to really

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<v Speaker 6>want to, you know, lay on too much.

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<v Speaker 9>Here's my problem with all of this. The Bengals have

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<v Speaker 9>never made.

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<v Speaker 8>Running the ball a priority to compliment Joe Burrow. And

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<v Speaker 8>Joe Burrow would be a much better quarterback and a

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<v Speaker 8>much more proficient and efficient quarterback.

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<v Speaker 9>If he had a run game behind him. That's all

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<v Speaker 9>there is to it.

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<v Speaker 10>People can say, well, this is.

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<v Speaker 8>A pass-oriented offense. Zach Taylor wants to pass, pass, pass.

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<v Speaker 11>Great.

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<v Speaker 9>Well, two things to that.

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<v Speaker 10>First of all, if.

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<v Speaker 8>Other teams know you're going to pass whatever it is, 70, 75%

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<v Speaker 8>of the time.

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<v Speaker 9>They're going to tee off on you.

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<v Speaker 10>They're going to say.

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<v Speaker 9>Screw it.

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<v Speaker 8>We'll give up a five to 10 yard game. Occasionally

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<v Speaker 8>gain occasionally. If it means getting to the quarterback and.

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<v Speaker 9>Punishing Joe Burrow.

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<v Speaker 8>And two, when you need to run in short yardage situations,

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<v Speaker 8>like I mentioned on fourth and one in the first quarter,

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<v Speaker 8>you're not going to be able to do it or yours. You're,

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<v Speaker 8>more unlikely able to do it, and it leads to

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<v Speaker 8>decisions like, well, we don't want to pass and have

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<v Speaker 8>an incomplete pass, so let's just punt the ball away.

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<v Speaker 8>I think that's a pass-backwards way of going about offense

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<v Speaker 8>in the modern-day NFL.

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<v Speaker 5>Treggs, what are you hoping to see out of this

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<v Speaker 5>defense this weekend?

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<v Speaker 10>A physical response.

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<v Speaker 8>You know, Jordan Battle caught some flack a couple hours

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<v Speaker 8>ago on social media for saying that Malik Willis tends

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<v Speaker 8>to tap the ball.

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<v Speaker 9>And that's a.

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<v Speaker 8>Tell on maybe the Bengals.

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<v Speaker 10>Getting a read and being able to pick off.

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<v Speaker 9>Malik a couple of.

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<v Speaker 8>Times this this sunday i think those are often overblown

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<v Speaker 8>because a quarterback's not going to change what he's going

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<v Speaker 8>to do in a couple of days he's just not

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<v Speaker 8>um Would Zach Taylor have preferred him not to say that?

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<v Speaker 9>Sure.

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<v Speaker 8>But what I'm looking for from this Bengal offense is

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<v Speaker 8>to be able to stop the tight ends and stop

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<v Speaker 8>the run a little more physically and get this Miami

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<v Speaker 8>team in third.

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<v Speaker 9>And medium, third and long more.

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<v Speaker 10>And do what they did, frankly, against this Miami.

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<v Speaker 8>Team last year. And granted, it's a different head coach,

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<v Speaker 8>a lot of different personnel, but Take the wind out

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<v Speaker 8>of this Miami team early. That's what I'm looking for

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<v Speaker 8>the Bengals to do on Sunday. Do not let Miami

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<v Speaker 8>think that they're in the game in the second half

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<v Speaker 8>with a chance to pull off an upset, and then

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<v Speaker 8>you walk out of Miami questioning the rest of your season.

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<v Speaker 4>Treggs, how can listeners read, watch, and follow all your

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<v Speaker 4>fantastic content?

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<v Speaker 8>Clnscentee with y.com. You can follow my locker room interviews

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<v Speaker 8>today with Jordan Battle, Dante Myers, and Brian Cook on

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<v Speaker 8>the X at Trags, T-R-A-G-S. And those interviews also are

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<v Speaker 8>on my YouTube page. That's the Jungle War podcast YouTube page,

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<v Speaker 8>youtube.com slash at Jungle War pod.

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<v Speaker 5>Trags, always fun. Good to have you back. Great hearing

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<v Speaker 5>you today.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you. We'll talk next week.

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<v Speaker 10>Appreciate it, gentlemen.

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<v Speaker 11>Take care.

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<v Speaker 4>He is Trags, Mike Petrae. weekly staple of the show.

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<v Speaker 4>Still ahead, we'll get into a little bit more on

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<v Speaker 4>that offense and the run game and under center and

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<v Speaker 4>how the NFL is changing and maybe the Bengals need

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<v Speaker 4>to Jump on board with that.

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<v Speaker 4>Fran is blocked by the, so I can, I think

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<v Speaker 4>Fran's hiding from me. He's perfectly positioned behind, but Phyllis

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<v Speaker 4>has her own personal speaker. It's only granted to select people,

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<v Speaker 4>and the select person would be her only. I don't

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<v Speaker 4>want anybody else coming here saying, when I come, do

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<v Speaker 4>I get a speaker? No, only Phyllis gets a speaker.

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<v Speaker 4>Phyllis does, yes.

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<v Speaker 11>She is dedicated.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes. Maybe she should sign the side of it. Brandon

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<v Speaker 4>and Phyllis are dedicated. Yeah, they should sign the side

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<v Speaker 4>of it and personalize it. Something significant I was going

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<v Speaker 4>to say. You changed your order tonight. Please explain this

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<v Speaker 4>because you are a creature of habit. What caused you

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<v Speaker 4>to deviate from your, I never get the name of it, tri-stake?

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<v Speaker 3>Tri-Tip Steak Casey Diaz, which I've ordered every day for

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<v Speaker 3>the last two years. 57 consecutive shows. Unofficial. I don't

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<v Speaker 3>want to upset you.

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<v Speaker 9>Oh, boy.

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<v Speaker 3>Because it goes back to superstition. And I need to

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<v Speaker 3>change it up.

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<v Speaker 7>Of course.

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<v Speaker 3>And I need to break the cycle.

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<v Speaker 12>Oh.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't know.

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<v Speaker 4>So you reach a point with it when you're superstitious.

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<v Speaker 4>You do something consistently enough. You then have to change

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<v Speaker 4>to get ahead.

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<v Speaker 3>Of the superstition.

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<v Speaker 6>If the results that I'm getting in certain areas that

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<v Speaker 6>I deem... reasonable or not met, then we have.

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<v Speaker 3>To change the mojo. You run the analytics. No, there's

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<v Speaker 3>no analytics. It's purely on a gut feel kind of thing.

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<v Speaker 3>And if certain things happen... Of course it is.

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<v Speaker 6>By the way, I was thinking, I thought a lot

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<v Speaker 6>about our conversation and your anger at my superstition.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes. Are they superstitions or are they routines?

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<v Speaker 4>Are you asking me about mine or are you about yours?

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<v Speaker 4>It was in general.

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<v Speaker 3>It's just a conversation. I mean, you call them superstitions.

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<v Speaker 3>I call them routines.

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<v Speaker 4>Now, remember, see, for the record, this all started with

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<v Speaker 4>the segment you do with Mo where he asked you

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<v Speaker 4>if you were superstitious.

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<v Speaker 3>Right.

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<v Speaker 4>And then you divulged all that public information, which is

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<v Speaker 4>saved on podcasts for eternity.

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<v Speaker 3>To listen to.

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<v Speaker 4>So you're the one who classified it as superstition. Well,

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<v Speaker 4>maybe that's what I'm saying. Now if you want to

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<v Speaker 4>backtrack and reclassify it as routine.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, that's what I'm going to do right now.

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<v Speaker 4>So that makes me think that you've thought that you

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<v Speaker 4>need to make it less weird. Let's just call it routines.

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<v Speaker 6>Actually, I just saw how disappointed you were in me,

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<v Speaker 6>and I felt bad.

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<v Speaker 3>I was very. I know you were. Because you, I

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<v Speaker 3>have such an image. Kind of let him down. I

0:23:03.859 --> 0:23:04.859
<v Speaker 3>have such an image.

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<v Speaker 4>I point up like almost a pedestal of how I

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<v Speaker 4>view you, and I'm like, superstitions.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, the pedestal just got cut. So there you go.

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<v Speaker 3>So there you go. I'm trying to change your mind. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 3>go ahead.

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<v Speaker 5>That's good. All right, let's talk about this Bengals offense.

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<v Speaker 4>The great debate of what they're doing, why they're doing it,

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<v Speaker 4>if they can change it. I want to go back

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<v Speaker 4>to Joe Burrow creating quite a stir on Sunday when

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<v Speaker 4>he was asked about a game where they barely ran

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<v Speaker 4>the football. They said, you know, would you like more balance?

0:23:31.220 --> 0:23:32.869
<v Speaker 4>And he said, I think we should throw it more.

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<v Speaker 4>Dan Hoard asked him yesterday to clarify if he really

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<v Speaker 4>meant the rest of the season or just specifically in

0:23:39.970 --> 0:23:40.490
<v Speaker 4>Sunday's game.

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<v Speaker 5>Here's Joe in answering that.

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<v Speaker 13>Can I clarify something from Sunday after the game when

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<v Speaker 13>you said we should throw in more or.

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<v Speaker 3>Something to that event?

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<v Speaker 13>Were you talking specifically about the game situation as opposed

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<v Speaker 13>to in general?

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<v Speaker 14>I might have been a little emotional after the game.

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<v Speaker 15>Obviously, you want to have balance as an offense. The

0:24:02.170 --> 0:24:06.260
<v Speaker 15>run game wasn't good enough on Sunday. I feel confident

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<v Speaker 15>in myself that you put it in my hands and

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<v Speaker 15>I'm going to make it work. Obviously, like you said,

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<v Speaker 15>it's very situational. You know, when you get into a

0:24:13.410 --> 0:24:16.490
<v Speaker 15>game like Sunday and, you know, they're a really good defense,

0:24:16.510 --> 0:24:17.330
<v Speaker 15>really good front seven.

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<v Speaker 9>And I felt like we.

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<v Speaker 10>Were moving the ball.

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<v Speaker 9>Pretty well in the past game.

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<v Speaker 15>And I could have been better in spots to help

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<v Speaker 15>our guys and not put our defense in bad positions

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<v Speaker 15>with the turnovers.

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<v Speaker 3>But, yeah, we've got to be more balanced going forward.

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<v Speaker 9>And a big part of that is the run game.

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<v Speaker 4>Joe Burrow, yesterday, and Rock, we're going to go ahead

0:24:41.180 --> 0:24:43.160
<v Speaker 4>and make this our hot topic of the week, brought

0:24:43.200 --> 0:24:45.760
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0:24:45.800 --> 0:24:48.080
<v Speaker 4>the field. And this comes down to that great clash

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<v Speaker 4>of what you do well versus what you might be

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<v Speaker 4>uncomfortable with but probably need to do more of, and

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<v Speaker 4>the balancing of that, plus, I don't know, there's just

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<v Speaker 4>a lot at play here that You just– and we

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<v Speaker 4>both read the piece by Ben Solick this week from ESPN,

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<v Speaker 4>and his basic premise was– and I didn't realize the

0:25:08.670 --> 0:25:12.979
<v Speaker 4>trend was going this way. There are fewer shotgun snaps

0:25:13.040 --> 0:25:15.280
<v Speaker 4>this year in the NFL. The rate of shotgun snaps

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<v Speaker 4>around the NFL, the lowest since 2017. There's a clear

0:25:19.220 --> 0:25:23.609
<v Speaker 4>shift to more under center, and yet the Bengals– To

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<v Speaker 4>their credit, they realized that and started to work on it,

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<v Speaker 4>but it's just not coming. Does that mean you bail

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<v Speaker 4>on it, or does that mean you just have to

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<v Speaker 4>figure out a way to be better at it?

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<v Speaker 6>Well, let's separate run game from under center. Let's save

0:25:36.560 --> 0:25:39.020
<v Speaker 6>that conversation a second. Here's how I look at it.

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<v Speaker 6>When it comes to the run game, okay, first of all,

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<v Speaker 6>you come into that game knowing that the Jags have

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<v Speaker 6>the best run defense in the NFL, and they've held, what, 20,

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<v Speaker 6>was it 21 opponents.

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<v Speaker 3>Or rushers under 75 yards?

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<v Speaker 4>Yep.

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<v Speaker 3>So you already know that coming in. So it's not

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<v Speaker 3>like it's a fluke thing.

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<v Speaker 6>Like if you play a defense that's middling in terms

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<v Speaker 6>of stopping the run, and all of a sudden they're

0:25:59.130 --> 0:26:01.310
<v Speaker 6>just stopping your run early, I think you have a

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<v Speaker 6>little more confidence.

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<v Speaker 3>And we already know that these guys are good at that.

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<v Speaker 6>And the Bengals had 71 offensive plays, and I just

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<v Speaker 6>don't believe that you keep banging your head against the

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<v Speaker 6>wall when you know, those players know, the offensive line knows,

0:26:14.369 --> 0:26:17.710
<v Speaker 6>Zach Taylor knows, the running game ain't happening today. Maybe

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<v Speaker 6>we had some things kind of schemed up we thought

0:26:19.580 --> 0:26:22.120
<v Speaker 6>would give us an advantage today, They countered, and it's

0:26:22.180 --> 0:26:24.199
<v Speaker 6>not happening. So I just don't think you beat your

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<v Speaker 6>head against the wall trying to do something that clearly

0:26:26.980 --> 0:26:29.760
<v Speaker 6>is not going to happen and go to your strength,

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<v Speaker 6>which is throwing the football.

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<v Speaker 4>I asked Charlie Goldsmith last night, Charlie's chalkboard. He was

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<v Speaker 4>with me on Sports Talk, and I asked him, I said,

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<v Speaker 4>is the time and effort they're putting into under center

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<v Speaker 4>worth it right now based on the– the lack of

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<v Speaker 4>results they're getting.

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<v Speaker 5>I said, is there hurt in it, do you think?

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<v Speaker 5>Listen to what Charlie said.

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<v Speaker 16>I think the second part is the ultimate question. The

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<v Speaker 16>most telling thing out of everything that happened on Sunday

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<v Speaker 16>from a schematic perspective was they came out of halftime

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<v Speaker 16>and tried, really tried to three attempts at explosive under

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<v Speaker 16>center plays. And then after that, those three plays were

0:27:05.530 --> 0:27:08.530
<v Speaker 16>bad from a results perspective. They didn't run another under

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<v Speaker 16>center play the rest of the game. So clearly something,

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<v Speaker 16>some conversation happened that went from the Bengals saying.

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<v Speaker 8>We're gonna push to this, to we're not.

0:27:15.800 --> 0:27:16.470
<v Speaker 9>Doing this anymore.

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<v Speaker 16>So it's that emotion that I think is really interesting.

0:27:19.640 --> 0:27:21.359
<v Speaker 16>and would be the important piece behind the curtain.

0:27:21.520 --> 0:27:22.899
<v Speaker 8>But I absolutely think they need it.

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<v Speaker 16>I've been thinking a lot about the 2022 Bengals because

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<v Speaker 16>that's the team that abandoned the under center offense.

0:27:28.240 --> 0:27:28.790
<v Speaker 2>And they were great.

0:27:28.810 --> 0:27:31.950
<v Speaker 10>We love the 2022 Bengals from a how they play perspective.

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<v Speaker 16>And when everything is perfect, you can win a.

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<v Speaker 9>Super Bowl playing that way.

0:27:35.490 --> 0:27:38.910
<v Speaker 16>But I was thinking then about the 2022 AFC title game.

0:27:39.070 --> 0:27:42.110
<v Speaker 16>Tyler Boyd exits with an injury. Of course, the line

0:27:42.130 --> 0:27:44.750
<v Speaker 16>was banged up as well. They doubled Jamar in the

0:27:44.790 --> 0:27:47.169
<v Speaker 16>Bengals offense, didn't have the counter that they needed in

0:27:47.210 --> 0:27:49.359
<v Speaker 16>that moment, and they didn't make it to the Super Bowl.

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<v Speaker 16>If something that you're not counting on happened in January,

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<v Speaker 16>you're going to need to pivot, and you need things

0:27:55.940 --> 0:27:58.180
<v Speaker 16>to pivot to, and that's why I keep the under

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<v Speaker 16>center offense alive.

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<v Speaker 4>Charlie Goldsmith last night on Sports Talk. Rock from the

0:28:02.400 --> 0:28:05.720
<v Speaker 4>Ben Solak piece, and this is more under center specifically.

0:28:06.520 --> 0:28:10.130
<v Speaker 4>He notes when you play in only one mode, opposing

0:28:10.170 --> 0:28:13.210
<v Speaker 4>defenses can tee off. He says the Jaguars were in

0:28:13.270 --> 0:28:16.690
<v Speaker 4>cover two more than tripled their rate of the first

0:28:16.730 --> 0:28:19.450
<v Speaker 4>three weeks of the season. The Bengals had no way

0:28:19.550 --> 0:28:21.820
<v Speaker 4>to get them out of it. I would equate it

0:28:21.859 --> 0:28:25.399
<v Speaker 4>to baseball. The pitcher, you may be able to throw 101,

0:28:25.400 --> 0:28:28.240
<v Speaker 4>but if you keep throwing 101, eventually they're going to

0:28:28.300 --> 0:28:30.330
<v Speaker 4>time it and hit it. It's like not having a

0:28:30.430 --> 0:28:35.189
<v Speaker 4>curveball to go to. Doesn't this team, if their shotgun

0:28:35.330 --> 0:28:39.090
<v Speaker 4>is their fastball, don't they need something in their arsenal

0:28:39.130 --> 0:28:43.460
<v Speaker 4>that is a breaking ball to pivot at times during

0:28:43.500 --> 0:28:43.780
<v Speaker 4>a game?

0:28:43.960 --> 0:28:46.120
<v Speaker 3>Or not? Or are you leaning.

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<v Speaker 5>Into your fastball just being your dominant pitch?

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<v Speaker 6>Yes, but there's other change-up pitches than the under-center offense.

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<v Speaker 6>I feel like we're so fixated on this under-center thing.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay.

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<v Speaker 4>And I get that, but then my response is, why

0:28:59.710 --> 0:29:04.550
<v Speaker 4>is it so complicated? Joe Burrow doesn't like it.

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<v Speaker 3>Joe Burrow doesn't like it. Maybe that's it.

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<v Speaker 6>He doesn't like it because he's not good at it,

0:29:08.840 --> 0:29:10.240
<v Speaker 6>and he's not good at it because he doesn't like it.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, I'm glad you said that, because it's not like

0:29:13.820 --> 0:29:16.760
<v Speaker 4>it's rocket science here. If the trend around the rest

0:29:16.800 --> 0:29:18.840
<v Speaker 4>of the league is to go more under center and

0:29:18.860 --> 0:29:22.450
<v Speaker 4>away from the shotgun, It can't be that hard, but

0:29:23.190 --> 0:29:24.870
<v Speaker 4>I think there is. That's why I asked Charlie, do

0:29:24.890 --> 0:29:26.450
<v Speaker 4>you believe there are hearts in it? I wonder if

0:29:26.530 --> 0:29:29.530
<v Speaker 4>Joe's heart's in it, and I don't know that it is.

0:29:29.550 --> 0:29:31.030
<v Speaker 3>If every week on.

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<v Speaker 6>This show at, you know, whatever, 8.30, you had to

0:29:35.670 --> 0:29:38.470
<v Speaker 6>do a segment on knitting, you would be like, I

0:29:38.510 --> 0:29:41.060
<v Speaker 6>don't like this in the would say, why aren't you

0:29:41.100 --> 0:29:44.020
<v Speaker 6>better at that segment? The ratings are terrible, but I

0:29:44.060 --> 0:29:45.940
<v Speaker 6>don't like it. So you're not good at it because

0:29:45.960 --> 0:29:48.900
<v Speaker 6>you don't like it. Joe Burrow doesn't like this. It's

0:29:48.960 --> 0:29:51.750
<v Speaker 6>something he... And I think.

0:29:51.630 --> 0:29:54.800
<v Speaker 3>He feels, and I feel... There's other things you can do.

0:29:54.840 --> 0:29:56.320
<v Speaker 3>There's other schemes.

0:29:56.980 --> 0:29:58.459
<v Speaker 6>I'm not saying abandon the running game. Now, I think

0:29:58.480 --> 0:30:00.500
<v Speaker 6>you banned the running game in the Jags game. You

0:30:00.520 --> 0:30:02.480
<v Speaker 6>came with a plan.

0:30:03.220 --> 0:30:03.860
<v Speaker 3>It wasn't good.

0:30:04.220 --> 0:30:08.160
<v Speaker 6>So in that moment, you're not going to redo some scheme.

0:30:09.160 --> 0:30:13.240
<v Speaker 6>You only get 70 plays. And this is a dumb example,

0:30:13.270 --> 0:30:16.170
<v Speaker 6>but I know this from calling offenses in youth games.

0:30:18.580 --> 0:30:20.920
<v Speaker 6>If something doesn't work, you're going to go away from

0:30:20.980 --> 0:30:23.170
<v Speaker 6>it because you only get so many snaps at it.

0:30:23.240 --> 0:30:25.600
<v Speaker 6>So it's like, why keep trying to make this thing

0:30:25.980 --> 0:30:28.620
<v Speaker 6>that isn't working and I don't like it? It'd be

0:30:28.680 --> 0:30:30.510
<v Speaker 6>one thing if I didn't like it and it was working.

0:30:31.030 --> 0:30:32.950
<v Speaker 6>But if both of them are like, well, ah.

0:30:33.050 --> 0:30:38.090
<v Speaker 4>But see, I understand that point, but the stubborn part

0:30:38.130 --> 0:30:41.370
<v Speaker 4>of me says– That sounds like a little kid who's

0:30:41.410 --> 0:30:42.170
<v Speaker 4>just saying, but.

0:30:42.110 --> 0:30:46.130
<v Speaker 3>It's too hard. I think, I mean, Joe Burrow's an

0:30:46.170 --> 0:30:48.760
<v Speaker 3>elite quarterback. I just can't.

0:30:49.320 --> 0:30:52.200
<v Speaker 4>It sounds like they're saying, but I don't want to

0:30:52.320 --> 0:30:53.080
<v Speaker 4>do it, Dad.

0:30:53.140 --> 0:30:54.500
<v Speaker 3>It's too hard.

0:30:54.900 --> 0:30:57.410
<v Speaker 4>And I would say, son, you're going to have to

0:30:57.470 --> 0:30:59.850
<v Speaker 4>figure out how to be better at it because, you know,

0:31:00.270 --> 0:31:01.170
<v Speaker 4>you've got to grow.

0:31:01.010 --> 0:31:03.590
<v Speaker 3>Up at some point. I understand what you're saying.

0:31:03.610 --> 0:31:05.750
<v Speaker 4>I'm not calling Joe Burrow a baby, but, I mean,

0:31:05.950 --> 0:31:08.410
<v Speaker 4>my God, he's smart enough to realize under center offense

0:31:08.430 --> 0:31:10.360
<v Speaker 4>makes them a better offense, so figure out a way

0:31:10.380 --> 0:31:11.150
<v Speaker 4>to execute it.

0:31:11.760 --> 0:31:12.700
<v Speaker 3>But that's what I don't get.

0:31:12.760 --> 0:31:14.720
<v Speaker 4>I don't get just giving it up because you're not

0:31:14.760 --> 0:31:15.190
<v Speaker 4>good at it.

0:31:15.240 --> 0:31:17.360
<v Speaker 3>My argument is get better at it. Give me a

0:31:17.400 --> 0:31:18.220
<v Speaker 3>point in this.

0:31:18.220 --> 0:31:21.620
<v Speaker 6>Offseason or preseason or four weeks through the season where

0:31:21.680 --> 0:31:24.320
<v Speaker 6>that thing is just hummed, where it just looks really good.

0:31:27.050 --> 0:31:30.030
<v Speaker 4>What does that say about Zach Taylor and the offensive coaches?

0:31:30.330 --> 0:31:33.100
<v Speaker 3>They spent the entire offseason working on it.

0:31:33.150 --> 0:31:36.360
<v Speaker 4>They spent training camp putting it in, and it's a

0:31:36.640 --> 0:31:39.060
<v Speaker 4>mess a week in or four weeks in.

0:31:39.500 --> 0:31:41.800
<v Speaker 3>They get nothing out of it. How is that possible?

0:31:42.160 --> 0:31:47.320
<v Speaker 6>But do you ask Nolan Ryan to throw a knuckle curve? No,

0:31:47.340 --> 0:31:48.980
<v Speaker 6>he has plenty of other good pitches. Why are you

0:31:49.010 --> 0:31:50.950
<v Speaker 6>going to ask him to throw a pitch that he

0:31:50.990 --> 0:31:53.530
<v Speaker 6>hates and isn't good at? He's got plenty of other pitches.

0:31:54.950 --> 0:31:58.700
<v Speaker 6>You know what I'm saying? You know what now surprises me?

0:31:58.720 --> 0:32:01.360
<v Speaker 6>Not as much about the superstitions.

0:32:02.020 --> 0:32:03.940
<v Speaker 3>You didn't think I was going to come out with this. No,

0:32:04.000 --> 0:32:04.780
<v Speaker 3>I like this.

0:32:04.900 --> 0:32:08.500
<v Speaker 4>But you're now opening the door to you're accepting quitting.

0:32:08.880 --> 0:32:11.800
<v Speaker 3>You're a quitter. Not quitting. You're just quitting.

0:32:12.180 --> 0:32:12.840
<v Speaker 5>No, you're quitting.

0:32:13.180 --> 0:32:13.860
<v Speaker 3>But at some point.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't like the results. I'm not good at this.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm not going to do it anymore.

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<v Speaker 6>It'd be one thing if this was like the first

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<v Speaker 6>week and we're just going to try this. But at

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<v Speaker 6>no point in the offseason, in the preseason, in the

0:32:24.100 --> 0:32:27.260
<v Speaker 6>preseason games, in the games so far this year, have

0:32:27.280 --> 0:32:28.020
<v Speaker 6>they been good at it.

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<v Speaker 3>So at some point, do you keep banging your head?

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<v Speaker 3>We've got to win games, man. We've got to do

0:32:32.790 --> 0:32:35.610
<v Speaker 3>stuff that works like right now. Like right now. So

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<v Speaker 3>maybe it's not that. Maybe there's a thing.

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<v Speaker 6>Look, he clearly likes to be able to see the

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<v Speaker 6>defense so he can manipulate the coverage.

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<v Speaker 3>And he is one of the best in the league.

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<v Speaker 6>Maybe there's something that complements that. You know, something that's different.

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<v Speaker 6>It doesn't have to be, you know, we throw the ball.

0:32:51.480 --> 0:32:52.680
<v Speaker 6>It doesn't have to be the running shoe. We don't

0:32:52.700 --> 0:32:54.250
<v Speaker 6>have to throw the ball 80 times a game. But

0:32:54.270 --> 0:32:56.729
<v Speaker 6>is there some sort of something, a little change up.

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<v Speaker 4>A screen, more screens, more draws? Okay, I get where

0:33:00.710 --> 0:33:02.620
<v Speaker 4>you're going with that. Because at some point I would think.

0:33:03.240 --> 0:33:06.230
<v Speaker 4>you're going to need, there will be a moment, like

0:33:06.290 --> 0:33:09.330
<v Speaker 4>Charlie laid out, there'll be a moment where that will

0:33:09.370 --> 0:33:11.910
<v Speaker 4>take you so far, and there's going to be that moment,

0:33:12.010 --> 0:33:12.910
<v Speaker 4>you've got.

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<v Speaker 3>To be able to go to something else.

0:33:15.910 --> 0:33:20.510
<v Speaker 4>And if it's not there because it was too hard, then.

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<v Speaker 3>You're going to lose and your season is over. But

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<v Speaker 3>answer me this.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes.

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<v Speaker 3>Does a smart coach.

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<v Speaker 6>implement the system that he wants or does he implement

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<v Speaker 6>the system that.

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<v Speaker 3>Best fits his players?

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<v Speaker 6>Do you ask a triple option team, you can say, well,

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<v Speaker 6>you know, God, Texas Tech, they throw the ball down

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<v Speaker 6>the field.

0:33:36.440 --> 0:33:38.920
<v Speaker 3>Do you ask them to do that? They say, no,

0:33:39.460 --> 0:33:42.340
<v Speaker 3>that's not what we do. But we do other things.

0:33:42.400 --> 0:33:46.340
<v Speaker 6>We don't throw fastballs the entire time. We have little change-ups,

0:33:46.660 --> 0:33:48.440
<v Speaker 6>but it's not that particular change-up.

0:33:48.460 --> 0:33:53.100
<v Speaker 4>And I would say in that analogy, we're not asking,

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<v Speaker 4>I think, is something very basic. Triple option is something

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<v Speaker 4>very complicated. I think we're I think the Bengals are

0:34:01.190 --> 0:34:04.130
<v Speaker 4>failing at something very basic, and that's what's frustrating to

0:34:04.170 --> 0:34:08.310
<v Speaker 4>me because an under-center offense isn't reinventing.

0:34:07.730 --> 0:34:10.069
<v Speaker 3>The NFL or offense. No, it's not.

0:34:10.210 --> 0:34:13.190
<v Speaker 5>It's the very genesis of what football was.

0:34:13.230 --> 0:34:15.330
<v Speaker 6>But I will say this. These quarterbacks are coming out

0:34:15.370 --> 0:34:18.100
<v Speaker 6>of college now. Don't go under-center a lot at all.

0:34:18.160 --> 0:34:20.200
<v Speaker 6>I watch entire games where they never go under-center.

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<v Speaker 4>But to that point, why do you think league-wide shotgun

0:34:23.600 --> 0:34:26.839
<v Speaker 4>rates are at their lowest since 2017? That tells me

0:34:27.140 --> 0:34:30.029
<v Speaker 4>that the majority of the league is saying– We've got

0:34:30.050 --> 0:34:33.950
<v Speaker 4>to evolve, and all things are cyclical. They cycle through,

0:34:34.330 --> 0:34:36.989
<v Speaker 4>and the trend is pushing us towards that, and yet

0:34:37.050 --> 0:34:40.110
<v Speaker 4>the Bengals aren't good. So the Bengals are getting further

0:34:40.190 --> 0:34:43.410
<v Speaker 4>behind the curve. If fewer teams are using the shotgun

0:34:43.430 --> 0:34:46.030
<v Speaker 4>and the Bengals are resistant to that, then they're falling

0:34:46.150 --> 0:34:47.790
<v Speaker 4>further behind the curve of the NFL.

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<v Speaker 6>That's frustrating. But why do we feel the need to

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<v Speaker 6>conform to... The under center offense.

0:34:55.330 --> 0:34:57.450
<v Speaker 4>I think we're using two different word twists. I love

0:34:57.489 --> 0:35:01.910
<v Speaker 4>this conversation. You're saying conform. I'm saying just get better.

0:35:02.330 --> 0:35:05.350
<v Speaker 4>Just reasonably get better at it. I'm not asking you

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<v Speaker 4>to conform and change your behavior.

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<v Speaker 3>We're a month in the season. You're not getting better.

0:35:10.850 --> 0:35:14.910
<v Speaker 3>You're not learning. You can say you failed in the offseason.

0:35:14.989 --> 0:35:16.950
<v Speaker 3>You can say that. Okay, that's what I was just

0:35:16.969 --> 0:35:17.450
<v Speaker 3>going to say.

0:35:17.469 --> 0:35:19.069
<v Speaker 5>Then let's just say they failed at this.

0:35:19.090 --> 0:35:19.490
<v Speaker 7>Okay, great.

0:35:19.840 --> 0:35:22.299
<v Speaker 3>But the reality is we're in week five, man. We've

0:35:22.320 --> 0:35:23.100
<v Speaker 3>got to win games.

0:35:23.640 --> 0:35:25.980
<v Speaker 6>And do we continue to do this thing that we've

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<v Speaker 6>tried it, we've wanted it to work, we've schemed it,

0:35:28.480 --> 0:35:30.340
<v Speaker 6>we've tried it to work, and it just ain't working?

0:35:30.420 --> 0:35:32.839
<v Speaker 3>Or do we do something, hey, let's– we do this

0:35:33.080 --> 0:35:33.839
<v Speaker 3>other thing well.

0:35:33.860 --> 0:35:36.970
<v Speaker 6>Let's maybe find another little wrinkle off of that and

0:35:37.030 --> 0:35:39.430
<v Speaker 6>do that. And, by the way, our quarterback probably likes

0:35:39.469 --> 0:35:42.690
<v Speaker 6>that more than he does the under center stuff. I

0:35:42.710 --> 0:35:44.930
<v Speaker 6>just think the offseason is the time for trying things.

0:35:45.270 --> 0:35:47.880
<v Speaker 6>And the preseason is– seeing how that works.

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<v Speaker 3>And if you have success, then you build on it.

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<v Speaker 6>But if you don't, you kind of got to go

0:35:51.780 --> 0:35:54.900
<v Speaker 6>away from it because it would be different if you

0:35:55.080 --> 0:35:59.350
<v Speaker 6>had 200 snaps in a game. You get 70. You

0:35:59.370 --> 0:36:01.430
<v Speaker 6>get 70, but it really feels like you get about

0:36:01.430 --> 0:36:06.009
<v Speaker 6>15 because every snap matters. And I just don't know

0:36:06.070 --> 0:36:09.410
<v Speaker 6>why you do something that– It just doesn't seem to fit.

0:36:09.590 --> 0:36:12.640
<v Speaker 4>I'm having a very difficult time accepting the fact that

0:36:12.660 --> 0:36:16.780
<v Speaker 4>you're making sense in a lot of ways.

0:36:16.820 --> 0:36:21.020
<v Speaker 3>Take a time out. We will continue. He's Rocky. I'm Lance.

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<v Speaker 4>this and And I mentioned earlier in the week, Zach

0:37:35.020 --> 0:37:36.980
<v Speaker 4>talked at the press conference on Monday about the silver.

0:37:37.020 --> 0:37:39.670
<v Speaker 4>He said, paraphrasing, nobody wants to hear this, but I

0:37:39.930 --> 0:37:42.989
<v Speaker 4>saw the silver linings in that game on Sunday, and

0:37:43.310 --> 0:37:46.660
<v Speaker 4>I like my team's fight, and they played hard. And

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<v Speaker 4>I wonder sometimes if Zach, whose reputation, he's a very

0:37:50.820 --> 0:37:54.320
<v Speaker 4>positive person, and that positive, like, rah, rah, I believe

0:37:54.380 --> 0:37:56.470
<v Speaker 4>in you, I've got your back, almost kind of like

0:37:56.510 --> 0:37:59.890
<v Speaker 4>college mentality, helped him build the culture of this team.

0:37:59.950 --> 0:38:01.469
<v Speaker 5>There's no question. It took him to the Super Bowl,

0:38:01.489 --> 0:38:01.950
<v Speaker 5>it took him back.

0:38:02.310 --> 0:38:05.009
<v Speaker 4>I wonder sometimes if Zach needs to be more of the,

0:38:05.550 --> 0:38:07.910
<v Speaker 4>get the red ass a little bit more with this team.

0:38:08.320 --> 0:38:10.960
<v Speaker 4>And a lot behind the scenes we'll never see. He

0:38:11.120 --> 0:38:13.940
<v Speaker 4>was very boisterous in the locker room and and believing

0:38:13.960 --> 0:38:16.299
<v Speaker 4>in his guys, he said on Sunday. But I wonder, though,

0:38:17.060 --> 0:38:21.430
<v Speaker 4>having been around coaches, don't you have to stay true

0:38:21.469 --> 0:38:25.270
<v Speaker 4>to your character? And if you change, it appears fake

0:38:25.410 --> 0:38:26.450
<v Speaker 4>or desperate maybe?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, that's what I was going to say. I mean,

0:38:27.969 --> 0:38:28.830
<v Speaker 3>I agree with you.

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<v Speaker 6>I would like to see a little more red ass,

0:38:30.550 --> 0:38:31.770
<v Speaker 6>to use your term. I would like to see a

0:38:31.770 --> 0:38:33.700
<v Speaker 6>little more fire. But that's not who you hired.

0:38:34.390 --> 0:38:34.880
<v Speaker 3>If you want.

0:38:34.780 --> 0:38:36.660
<v Speaker 6>Fiery and you want all that, then hire Nick Saban.

0:38:36.760 --> 0:38:39.060
<v Speaker 6>But if you want calm and cool and, hey, we're

0:38:39.840 --> 0:38:43.250
<v Speaker 6>always positive– Because, yes, you don't all of a sudden

0:38:43.270 --> 0:38:46.069
<v Speaker 6>want a coach who, by all accounts, over the years,

0:38:46.090 --> 0:38:49.290
<v Speaker 6>we've talked about it often, players love him, right? And

0:38:49.950 --> 0:38:52.049
<v Speaker 6>that seems to be a good thing, and they feel

0:38:52.070 --> 0:38:54.279
<v Speaker 6>like he's genuine. And if he all of a sudden

0:38:54.340 --> 0:38:57.480
<v Speaker 6>tries to be someone he's not, do you further damage

0:38:57.820 --> 0:38:58.799
<v Speaker 6>where things are right now?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and there is something to be said for, you

0:39:02.360 --> 0:39:05.920
<v Speaker 4>can speak to this, The even-keeled, consistent nature.

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<v Speaker 3>That was Dungy. Consistency. Yeah, yeah, there you go.

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<v Speaker 6>But, you know, Colts were also winning, you know, 10-plus

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<v Speaker 6>or 12, 15-plus games.

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<v Speaker 4>And as you mentioned that, I think in Tampa Bay,

0:39:17.260 --> 0:39:19.910
<v Speaker 4>if I'm right, wasn't it they moved on from Dungy

0:39:20.030 --> 0:39:22.550
<v Speaker 4>and it turned to John Gruden, and Gruden and Dungy

0:39:22.670 --> 0:39:25.910
<v Speaker 4>are like polar opposites. It was just a different personality

0:39:26.290 --> 0:39:29.310
<v Speaker 4>that at the moment they thought the Buccaneers needed.

0:39:29.390 --> 0:39:30.870
<v Speaker 3>And it got them to a Super Bowl.

0:39:31.010 --> 0:39:33.070
<v Speaker 4>And yet Dungy then wins a Super Bowl of the Colts.

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<v Speaker 6>I bet that was the conversation. And Tampa Bay, man,

0:39:35.260 --> 0:39:36.890
<v Speaker 6>we've got a good roster here. But we just need

0:39:36.910 --> 0:39:39.640
<v Speaker 6>a little more. And that's why they went with it.

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<v Speaker 11>All right.

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<v Speaker 5>That's one hour in the books just like that.

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<v Speaker 3>Holy cow.

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<v Speaker 4>When we come back, Chad Brendel talks UC football. Greg

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<v Speaker 4>Shoemaker is back with the high school football tonight. Preview

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<v Speaker 4>coming up at 736. Dan Klaskens has your fantasy football

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<v Speaker 18>The president and the vice president expected in Ohio once

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<v Speaker 18>Senator John Husted. And then President Trump will be back

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<v Speaker 12>It is quite amazing here that we are less than

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<v Speaker 12>become an increasingly tight race with the Democrat James Tallarico.

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<v Speaker 12>He's blaming that Republican midterm convention the president had for

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<v Speaker 12>suddenly losing momentum in this race, as polls show.

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<v Speaker 18>The latest poll on the Texas race shows the Democratic

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<v Speaker 18>new CNN poll gives Democrat Sherrod Brown a six-point lead

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<v Speaker 18>The right lane is blocked on State Route 562 westbound

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<v Speaker 18>That is due to an accident as well. And the

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<v Speaker 18>out your latest forecast.

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<v Speaker 19>skies and a high of 80. By tomorrow night, we're

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<v Speaker 19>looking at clear and a low down to 58, but

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<v Speaker 19>wet and windy this weekend. From your severe weather station,

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<v Speaker 19>ceremony for Blink is tonight in Over the Rhine, where

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<v Speaker 19>a street party on Central Parkway in front of Tikiwell Stadium.

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<v Speaker 19>And the lights installations will be switched on in just

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<v Speaker 5>The event is free and attracts people from all over

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<v Speaker 5>the world.

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<v Speaker 20>We see about 2 million people come to this event

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<v Speaker 20>over the course of the weekend. And yeah, it's people

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<v Speaker 20>from our region, people from across the country. We have

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<v Speaker 20>people coming in internationally.

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<v Speaker 18>Amy Fitzgibbons is with the Cincinnati Regional Chamber of Commerce,

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<v Speaker 18>and more than 90 artists from 20 different countries are

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<v Speaker 18>participating in this year's event. In the meantime, electric scooters

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<v Speaker 18>are getting the attention of the Ohio State Legislature. It's

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<v Speaker 18>because of the concerns of one particular lawmaker who believes

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<v Speaker 18>it is time to bring the law up to date

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<v Speaker 18>when it comes to those highly popular modes of inexpensive transportation.

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<v Speaker 21>The state already regulates all other motorized vehicles, so state

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<v Speaker 21>Senator Bill DeMora says it only makes sense to have

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<v Speaker 21>laws in Ohio regarding the use of e-bikes and electric scooters.

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<v Speaker 3>I know in my neighborhood, I see eight, nine-year-olds on

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<v Speaker 11>I mean, it's just not safe.

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<v Speaker 21>The proposed bill would require a driver's permit of anyone

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<v Speaker 21>on an e-bike and set the age to use an

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<v Speaker 21>e-scooter at 14. Regulations would also require helmets and would

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<v Speaker 4>We decided we needed to have one set of rules

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<v Speaker 18>And testimony continued today in the murder trial of Ronnie

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<v Speaker 18>Hinton's mental illness is an important part of the story.

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<v Speaker 18>Jurors today watched body camera video of first responders trying

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<v Speaker 5>All right, here we go.

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<v Speaker 4>Roundtable show Thursday night. Longnecks in Wilder. Lance McAllister, Rocky Boyman,

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<v Speaker 4>thanks for hanging.

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<v Speaker 3>Out with us.

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<v Speaker 5>A spirited first hour. Two more to.

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<v Speaker 4>Unfold between now and 9 o'clock. Dan Carroll in at

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<v Speaker 4>that time. Each and every week at this time, though,

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<v Speaker 4>we talk UC football. Now 4-1 of the Bearcats after

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<v Speaker 4>a 34-7 loss at Arizona Saturday night. Off this week

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<v Speaker 4>at West Virginia for a noon kick next Saturday. For

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<v Speaker 4>more on the Bearcats, let's welcome in the man. that

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<v Speaker 4>is Bearcat Journal and BearcatJournal.com, Chad Brendel.

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<v Speaker 5>Good evening.

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<v Speaker 11>Good evening, gentlemen.

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<v Speaker 4>So take me back to Saturday night, 34-7. What aspect,

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<v Speaker 4>was there an aspect of that game in particular that

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<v Speaker 4>you found most surprising, that you did not expect to see?

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<v Speaker 8>Oof.

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<v Speaker 23>Surprising, I would say, would be Arizona running for 200-plus

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<v Speaker 23>yards for a team that really wasn't all that interested

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<v Speaker 23>in running the ball.

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<v Speaker 11>And rightfully so. They want to put the ball in

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<v Speaker 11>the hands of Noah Fafita.

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<v Speaker 23>But then once they got Cincinnati down, they ran right

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<v Speaker 23>at them and ran with a ton of success. So

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<v Speaker 23>surprising would probably be that.

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<v Speaker 11>The rest.

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<v Speaker 23>It wasn't that far out of the realm of imagination

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<v Speaker 23>if you analyzed the two teams.

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<v Speaker 6>So, Chad, let me ask you this, just a greater

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<v Speaker 6>question about the Big 12. How do you feel about

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<v Speaker 6>the strength of the teams in general in the Big 12?

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<v Speaker 6>I mean, on the AP right now, BYU is ranked 8th,

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<v Speaker 6>Texas Tech 11th. But I just feel like the conversation

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<v Speaker 6>in college football is SEC, Big 10, Miami– But I'd

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<v Speaker 6>like your thoughts on the Big 12 in general and

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<v Speaker 6>just the strength you feel it has, if any.

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<v Speaker 23>I don't think there's a national championship team. If you're

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<v Speaker 23>looking at this team can win a title, I don't

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<v Speaker 23>know that there's one of those, especially now. If there

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<v Speaker 23>was one, I've been on the BYU train all offseason

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<v Speaker 23>and into the season. LJ Martin being out for four

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<v Speaker 23>to six weeks, that was the heart of their offense,

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<v Speaker 23>and that is a devastating.

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<v Speaker 11>Blow for BYU.

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<v Speaker 23>Texas Tech's offense stinks.

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<v Speaker 11>So I don't know how much you.

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<v Speaker 23>Their defense is good, but their offense is hard to

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<v Speaker 23>watch right now.

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<v Speaker 9>Houston.

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<v Speaker 23>I mean, Houston is an underdog this week at Kansas State.

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<v Speaker 11>Think about that.

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<v Speaker 18>So.

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<v Speaker 23>Utah might be the one to keep an eye on.

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<v Speaker 23>They've played really well. I kind of thought they had

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<v Speaker 23>a lot of guys leave.

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<v Speaker 11>When their coach left.

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<v Speaker 23>They were replacing their entire offensive and defensive lines.

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<v Speaker 11>It felt like there was.

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<v Speaker 23>a dip that was coming for Utah, and we haven't

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<v Speaker 23>really seen that dip materialize. So maybe it's Utah, but

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<v Speaker 23>I think that's the main thing, Rocky, now. You can

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<v Speaker 23>see Miami as a team that could get back to

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<v Speaker 23>the national championship game and play for a title. Notre Dame,

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<v Speaker 23>I think, deserves mention in that conversation, and then the

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<v Speaker 23>SEC and the Big Ten teams. I just don't think

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<v Speaker 23>there's a Big 12 team you circle and go, boy,

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<v Speaker 23>that's a team really, like, they can get hot in

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<v Speaker 23>December and win it all. But I do think the

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<v Speaker 23>conference is pretty good at the top with playoff-quality teams.

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<v Speaker 23>I just don't think there's anybody you look at and

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<v Speaker 23>you're like, man, that's a team that could really.

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<v Speaker 11>Go on a run.

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<v Speaker 4>Chad, with the bye off this week, West Virginia next week,

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<v Speaker 4>self-scouting taking place, what would pop up in flashing lights

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<v Speaker 4>as the biggest issue in self-scouting and improvement between now

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<v Speaker 4>and West Virginia as they reflect back on the first five?

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<v Speaker 23>This probably won't be a problem against West Virginia per se,

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<v Speaker 23>but what are you going to do against– they play four–

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<v Speaker 23>over their final seven games that are top 20 in

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<v Speaker 23>the country in run defense, and three of them are

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<v Speaker 23>top 10. What are you going to do if you

0:50:47.800 --> 0:50:51.819
<v Speaker 23>can't run for it? Let's be conservative. If you can't

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<v Speaker 23>run for 150 yards in a game, what's the answer?

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<v Speaker 23>And I think some of that has to come from,

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<v Speaker 23>and Satterfield talked about it Tuesday, some of that has.

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<v Speaker 11>To come from J.C.

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<v Speaker 23>French is going to have to take a little bit

0:51:08.239 --> 0:51:14.810
<v Speaker 23>more chances. If it's working, in that Kansas State game,

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<v Speaker 23>you don't want him putting the ball in harm's way

0:51:18.230 --> 0:51:20.790
<v Speaker 23>because you're controlling the game on the ground. You're ripping

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<v Speaker 23>off 15, 20, 25, 30-yard gains. You don't want him

0:51:22.800 --> 0:51:30.210
<v Speaker 23>taking chances. But if you can't run successfully, and more importantly,

0:51:30.250 --> 0:51:33.370
<v Speaker 23>if you can't create those splash plays with the running game,

0:51:33.950 --> 0:51:36.860
<v Speaker 23>they have to come from somewhere. Sometimes you're going to

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<v Speaker 23>have to put the ball in danger a little bit

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<v Speaker 23>and trust your guys to make a play. I think

0:51:42.140 --> 0:51:44.799
<v Speaker 23>that's really what they're going to have to try to

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<v Speaker 23>start figuring out over this week and the next week is,

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<v Speaker 23>what is our plan if a team puts seven in

0:51:52.700 --> 0:51:56.060
<v Speaker 23>the box and we're blocking five on seven? to stop

0:51:56.120 --> 0:51:59.280
<v Speaker 23>our run game, what are we going to do when,

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<v Speaker 23>you know, we're not running it with great success?

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<v Speaker 4>I've got to ask you about the Bearcats basketball. Karasaurus

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<v Speaker 4>Invitational and their family tennis center outdoors on a tennis court,

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<v Speaker 4>then against Ohio State, then Xavier and Dayton, of course.

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<v Speaker 5>Let me break it down into a two-part question.

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<v Speaker 4>In terms of the look and how it played out,

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<v Speaker 4>from the idea the concept before we get into actual

0:52:25.430 --> 0:52:28.750
<v Speaker 4>performance how did it look and feel what did you make.

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<v Speaker 23>Of yesterday it was awesome that's what i've heard from

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<v Speaker 23>everybody yeah that was it's such a great facility like

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<v Speaker 23>kudos to to those folks because they put together a

0:52:42.370 --> 0:52:46.089
<v Speaker 23>masterpiece of a of a place to hang out and

0:52:46.310 --> 0:52:50.180
<v Speaker 23>and watch a sporting event um loved the sight lines

0:52:50.219 --> 0:52:52.880
<v Speaker 23>were great just walking around the facility and kind of

0:52:52.900 --> 0:52:55.440
<v Speaker 23>getting a feel for the vibe around the place.

0:52:55.680 --> 0:52:57.920
<v Speaker 11>Just an awesome awesome venue um.

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<v Speaker 23>Yeah sure like the the sun was a little bit

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<v Speaker 23>of a problem and and you know the wind was

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<v Speaker 23>a little bit more than you would like it to

0:53:06.370 --> 0:53:09.710
<v Speaker 23>be in a perfect situation but you got those four

0:53:09.790 --> 0:53:14.819
<v Speaker 23>teams in one place at one time i i I

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<v Speaker 23>couldn't have been more pleased with how the event was orchestrated.

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<v Speaker 4>Taking into account sun, shade, everything that was factored into

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<v Speaker 4>the performances yesterday, what did you take away from UC's

0:53:28.760 --> 0:53:29.980
<v Speaker 4>basketball performance?

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<v Speaker 23>In a lot of my conversations, just in talking to

0:53:36.550 --> 0:53:40.590
<v Speaker 23>Jared Calhoun, he talks a lot about how his teams

0:53:40.870 --> 0:53:46.080
<v Speaker 23>finish games. And, like, if you watched or listened to

0:53:46.120 --> 0:53:50.379
<v Speaker 23>Mo and Terry call that game, really Ohio State was

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<v Speaker 23>in control for 25, 30 minutes of that game.

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<v Speaker 11>You know, they're up somewhere.

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<v Speaker 23>Between five, seven, eight points for most of the game.

0:54:00.610 --> 0:54:03.670
<v Speaker 23>And then you got to about the 10-minute mark. Cincinnati

0:54:03.730 --> 0:54:06.890
<v Speaker 23>walked them down. They tied it up with about five

0:54:06.930 --> 0:54:10.290
<v Speaker 23>and a half minutes left. and then outscored them by

0:54:10.290 --> 0:54:13.239
<v Speaker 23>11 in the final five and a half minutes. They

0:54:13.280 --> 0:54:17.900
<v Speaker 23>played good defense. And more importantly, Lance, did you know

0:54:18.460 --> 0:54:21.620
<v Speaker 23>that guards are allowed to go to the rim, get fouled,

0:54:21.660 --> 0:54:22.739
<v Speaker 23>and go to the free throw line?

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<v Speaker 1>What?

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<v Speaker 11>How about this?

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<v Speaker 23>Jizzle James, I hate bringing up, but this one's too good.

0:54:33.100 --> 0:54:36.360
<v Speaker 23>Jizzle James last year played 23 games for the Bearcats.

0:54:36.400 --> 0:54:38.560
<v Speaker 23>How many free throws do you think he took in

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<v Speaker 23>those 23 games last year?

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<v Speaker 4>Take a guess.

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<v Speaker 3>26.

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<v Speaker 11>Close.

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<v Speaker 3>22.

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<v Speaker 9>Ooh.

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<v Speaker 11>Tylan Riley took 16 free throws yesterday.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, my goodness.

0:54:51.850 --> 0:54:52.130
<v Speaker 20>Wow.

0:54:54.190 --> 0:54:55.150
<v Speaker 3>And that's the difference.

0:54:56.030 --> 0:55:00.290
<v Speaker 23>Why can't Wes be consistent? Why couldn't that team, over

0:55:00.330 --> 0:55:04.730
<v Speaker 23>Wes's tenure, be consistent on offense? Because they never got

0:55:04.750 --> 0:55:07.089
<v Speaker 23>to the line. They never got easy points. They never

0:55:07.150 --> 0:55:08.450
<v Speaker 23>put pressure downhill.

0:55:09.250 --> 0:55:10.070
<v Speaker 11>On a defense.

0:55:10.250 --> 0:55:12.570
<v Speaker 23>And they couldn't shoot because, you know, a lot of

0:55:12.590 --> 0:55:14.930
<v Speaker 23>it I do think was, especially in the first half

0:55:14.950 --> 0:55:17.770
<v Speaker 23>and then Ohio State's side in the second half, the

0:55:17.870 --> 0:55:20.129
<v Speaker 23>sun was beating down on that side of the court

0:55:20.150 --> 0:55:22.710
<v Speaker 23>where you're looking into it trying to shoot. That's going

0:55:22.730 --> 0:55:25.069
<v Speaker 23>to be really difficult to shoot. They only took six

0:55:25.110 --> 0:55:28.070
<v Speaker 23>threes in the second half, and they attack, attack, attack,

0:55:28.150 --> 0:55:31.910
<v Speaker 23>attack relentlessly at Ohio State. And it was the difference

0:55:31.950 --> 0:55:36.839
<v Speaker 23>in the game. And it's how you have to play offense.

0:55:37.260 --> 0:55:37.360
<v Speaker 4>Yep.

0:55:38.160 --> 0:55:42.780
<v Speaker 23>To consistently be good at offense. The three-point shooting will come,

0:55:42.840 --> 0:55:46.799
<v Speaker 23>it'll go, but it can't be as simple as, did

0:55:46.840 --> 0:55:49.239
<v Speaker 23>we shoot it well? Yes, then we probably won. Did

0:55:49.280 --> 0:55:52.440
<v Speaker 23>we shoot it poorly? No, then we probably lost. You

0:55:52.460 --> 0:55:54.759
<v Speaker 23>have to have other... Mick used to say, you have

0:55:54.780 --> 0:55:57.759
<v Speaker 23>to be able to dance all the dances. And this

0:55:58.560 --> 0:56:00.239
<v Speaker 23>team now looks like they're going to be able to

0:56:00.300 --> 0:56:01.320
<v Speaker 23>dance some more dances.

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<v Speaker 3>I like that.

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<v Speaker 6>Chad, I want to go back to just the presentation

0:56:04.780 --> 0:56:07.720
<v Speaker 6>of the game, being outdoors and all that, and obviously...

0:56:08.190 --> 0:56:09.710
<v Speaker 6>A lot of people like it. There's a lot of

0:56:09.770 --> 0:56:12.089
<v Speaker 6>buzz about it, which means guess what? They're probably going

0:56:12.110 --> 0:56:14.969
<v Speaker 6>to try more of it. What's your thoughts on how

0:56:15.010 --> 0:56:17.870
<v Speaker 6>the coaches feel about it? Do they embrace the fact

0:56:17.910 --> 0:56:20.700
<v Speaker 6>that it's a must-see event and there's buzz around it

0:56:20.719 --> 0:56:23.259
<v Speaker 6>and there's more eyeballs and it's kind of fun, but

0:56:23.320 --> 0:56:25.520
<v Speaker 6>I've got to deal with the sun and the wind

0:56:25.560 --> 0:56:28.400
<v Speaker 6>and dew on the court? Do they like them or

0:56:28.440 --> 0:56:31.279
<v Speaker 6>would they rather them go away? What's your thought on that?

0:56:32.820 --> 0:56:37.030
<v Speaker 23>I don't think there was much of a complaint about it.

0:56:37.060 --> 0:56:41.680
<v Speaker 23>I think the things that were, you know, factors were

0:56:41.719 --> 0:56:43.520
<v Speaker 23>things that they signed up for.

0:56:43.660 --> 0:56:44.580
<v Speaker 11>Like they knew.

0:56:44.440 --> 0:56:47.820
<v Speaker 23>Those things were going to be factors when they signed

0:56:47.880 --> 0:56:49.839
<v Speaker 23>up to play this game at the tennis center. So

0:56:49.860 --> 0:56:55.260
<v Speaker 23>I don't know what there really was to be unhappy about.

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<v Speaker 23>There's something that might be coming, guys, that I think

0:57:00.020 --> 0:57:04.930
<v Speaker 23>would be incredible. The NCAA just started a.

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<v Speaker 11>Change.

0:57:07.590 --> 0:57:13.280
<v Speaker 23>It's going through like the councils and whatever of college

0:57:13.340 --> 0:57:21.850
<v Speaker 23>basketball summer league. Oh. Could you imagine a week at

0:57:21.910 --> 0:57:29.230
<v Speaker 23>the tennis center with the basketball courts down and having– Kentucky, Indiana,

0:57:29.330 --> 0:57:34.790
<v Speaker 23>Ohio State, Louisville, everybody coming up and spending for, like,

0:57:35.610 --> 0:57:36.830
<v Speaker 23>the Bahamas trip, right?

0:57:37.390 --> 0:57:38.010
<v Speaker 9>Yeah.

0:57:38.030 --> 0:57:38.570
<v Speaker 11>In August.

0:57:39.810 --> 0:57:45.270
<v Speaker 23>Texas A &amp; M was there. Cincinnati was there. Arkansas

0:57:45.290 --> 0:57:48.450
<v Speaker 23>was there. And Valpo was there. And then South Carolina

0:57:48.470 --> 0:57:51.610
<v Speaker 23>showed up later. It would basically be like doing that event.

0:57:52.550 --> 0:57:55.410
<v Speaker 23>but the teams would round robin play each other as

0:57:55.490 --> 0:57:58.490
<v Speaker 23>opposed to playing teams from Canada and other international teams.

0:57:58.990 --> 0:58:03.260
<v Speaker 23>How amazing would that be to set that thing up in,

0:58:03.680 --> 0:58:05.400
<v Speaker 23>you know, I think the problem, I guess, would be

0:58:05.460 --> 0:58:08.140
<v Speaker 23>the tennis, like why they built it.

0:58:09.220 --> 0:58:12.720
<v Speaker 5>But if you could run.

0:58:12.600 --> 0:58:13.700
<v Speaker 11>An event like.

0:58:13.580 --> 0:58:17.970
<v Speaker 3>That there, that would be crazy. Oh, it would be incredible. Yeah.

0:58:17.990 --> 0:58:18.070
<v Speaker 19>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>All right, you've got all of this covered and more

0:58:22.040 --> 0:58:26.770
<v Speaker 4>at Bearcat Journal. Explain, preview, tease, lay out what they're

0:58:26.790 --> 0:58:28.370
<v Speaker 4>going to find at bearcatjournal.com.

0:58:28.390 --> 0:58:34.430
<v Speaker 23>A ton of coverage yesterday from the event. Keegan and

0:58:34.510 --> 0:58:37.380
<v Speaker 23>Austin Bass both have stories up.

0:58:37.360 --> 0:58:38.080
<v Speaker 11>On the website.

0:58:38.120 --> 0:58:41.200
<v Speaker 23>We've got a podcast up on the website. And then

0:58:41.220 --> 0:58:43.900
<v Speaker 23>we'll get ready for next week at West Virginia and Rock.

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<v Speaker 23>I don't know how much West Virginia you've watched.

0:58:48.280 --> 0:58:49.340
<v Speaker 3>I've not watched much.

0:58:50.660 --> 0:58:54.510
<v Speaker 11>Rich Rod has Pat White and Steve Slayton back in Morgantown.

0:58:54.590 --> 0:58:59.670
<v Speaker 3>That's what I hear. They've got it going pretty good.

0:58:59.710 --> 0:59:00.690
<v Speaker 11>The only two.

0:59:02.550 --> 0:59:05.710
<v Speaker 23>Programs in the country running for more yards than West

0:59:05.750 --> 0:59:09.670
<v Speaker 23>Virginia right now are Air Force and Army.

0:59:09.690 --> 0:59:09.850
<v Speaker 8>Oh.

0:59:10.240 --> 0:59:15.180
<v Speaker 3>Geez. I was going to guess Northwestern.

0:59:15.240 --> 0:59:16.380
<v Speaker 11>Yeah, they're running the wing team.

0:59:16.420 --> 0:59:16.880
<v Speaker 7>How about that?

0:59:16.900 --> 0:59:19.620
<v Speaker 3>West Virginia is the number one power four program.

0:59:26.090 --> 0:59:28.810
<v Speaker 23>At almost 300 yards a game on the ground.

0:59:29.250 --> 0:59:30.670
<v Speaker 3>Wow.

0:59:30.830 --> 0:59:32.090
<v Speaker 11>There might be 1,000 yards.

0:59:32.230 --> 0:59:34.450
<v Speaker 23>As bad as West Virginia's defense is, there might be

0:59:34.450 --> 0:59:37.860
<v Speaker 23>1,000 yards on the ground in Morgantown next Saturday at noon.

0:59:38.070 --> 0:59:38.480
<v Speaker 4>Wow.

0:59:39.480 --> 0:59:39.940
<v Speaker 5>Oh, man.

0:59:39.980 --> 0:59:42.479
<v Speaker 3>All right, thank you, sir. We'll talk next week.

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<v Speaker 11>Appreciate it, gentlemen. Have a great night.

0:59:45.240 --> 0:59:49.840
<v Speaker 4>Chad Brindle, BearcatJournal.com. When we come back, more on the Bengals'

0:59:49.860 --> 0:59:52.540
<v Speaker 4>defensive side of things, our defensive play of the game,

0:59:52.680 --> 0:59:55.640
<v Speaker 4>and more. I want to ask Rock about quarterbacks tapping.

0:59:55.980 --> 1:00:00.420
<v Speaker 4>the football and what Jordan Battle said today about Malik Willis.

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<v Speaker 3>That is next. He's Rocky. I'm Lance.

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<v Speaker 4>to make that play you just heard, Boye Muffet, called

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1:00:52.310 --> 1:00:55.910
<v Speaker 4>different levels of conversation related to this. Trags mentioned it,

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<v Speaker 4>and Trags has it on his ex-Twitter feed, the conversation

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<v Speaker 4>with Jordan Battle earlier today. And Jordan said of Malik Willis,

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<v Speaker 4>the Miami Dolphins quarterback, quote, he has a little slight

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<v Speaker 4>tap before every throw. So I feel like we could

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<v Speaker 4>use that as a key to break on the ball.

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<v Speaker 4>He likes to tap the ball before he throws it,

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<v Speaker 4>where he takes his hand off the ball, and that

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<v Speaker 4>gives us a read on that.

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<v Speaker 5>He's obviously dangerous with his feet. We know.

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<v Speaker 3>About that.

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<v Speaker 4>Third and long, they'll run quarterback draws. And he goes

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<v Speaker 4>on to kind of give a little scouting report on

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<v Speaker 4>Malik Willis. I guess the question would be, if you've

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<v Speaker 4>uncovered through scouting a tell, for lack of a better word,

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<v Speaker 4>something the quarterback does, tapping the ball with his hand

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<v Speaker 4>before he throws it, Why would you, it seems you

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<v Speaker 4>give up any advantage by publicly disclosing that you're aware

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<v Speaker 4>of it.

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<v Speaker 3>Duh, yeah. I can't understand why you would do this.

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<v Speaker 3>And you could even say, hey, if you want to

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<v Speaker 3>be cute.

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<v Speaker 5>Wait, for the record, I think that's the first time

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<v Speaker 5>I've ever heard you use the word, duh.

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<v Speaker 6>And you'll be the last if this guy keeps still

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<v Speaker 6>doing this.

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<v Speaker 3>Any one thing, look, if you want to be cute.

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<v Speaker 6>With the media and go, hey, there's something, a fundamental

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<v Speaker 6>thing that the quarterback does we think we've picked up

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<v Speaker 6>on that we really think we can use to our advantage.

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<v Speaker 3>That would be acceptable.

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<v Speaker 6>But why broadcast what exactly that thing is, I don't know. Now,

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<v Speaker 6>I will say. Malik Willis is not the only quarterback

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<v Speaker 6>that taps. I would say the majority of quarterbacks tap

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<v Speaker 6>the ball before they throw it. Joe Burrow taps the

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<v Speaker 6>ball before he throws at times. Now, is his more exaggerated.

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<v Speaker 3>Elongated, whatever?

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<v Speaker 6>But I always thought as a defensive player, yeah, you

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<v Speaker 6>like that when the quarterback does the pat because that

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<v Speaker 6>gives you a split-second indicator of when that ball is

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<v Speaker 6>coming out.

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<v Speaker 11>Yes.

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<v Speaker 6>Because the ball is snapped, the shot clock is already

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<v Speaker 6>going off your head, 1-1,000, 2-1,000. You get around 2-1,000, 3-1,000,

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<v Speaker 6>and you know that that pat– That ball is coming out.

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<v Speaker 6>And give you just a little bit of a break.

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<v Speaker 6>I assume that's what he's talking about.

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<v Speaker 5>I would think that if I'm Al Golden, I might

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<v Speaker 5>be like, Jordan, come over here.

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<v Speaker 3>Sit in my office, please.

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<v Speaker 4>Could you please refrain from publicly revealing anything we just covered?

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<v Speaker 3>Al Golden's got to be on there. This is hard enough.

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<v Speaker 6>It's hard enough to win a football game in the NFL,

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<v Speaker 6>and I've got to deal with this. He probably had

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<v Speaker 6>scouts like, look at this, over the course of 75

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<v Speaker 6>games and blah, blah, blah.

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<v Speaker 4>Somebody was probably excited to come into the office like,

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<v Speaker 4>I got it.

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<v Speaker 11>I got it.

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<v Speaker 3>I got to tell. Look what he does. Jordan. Come on, man.

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<v Speaker 3>By the way.

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<v Speaker 2>Come on.

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<v Speaker 4>The only thing he left out was, man, our scouts

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<v Speaker 4>were really excited when they came in and told us this.

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<v Speaker 5>You won't believe it.

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<v Speaker 3>Now, maybe this is like a false flag operation. Oh.

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<v Speaker 6>Maybe he's getting inside Malik Willis' head. He doesn't, in fact,

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<v Speaker 6>do that, but he's going to get another tell.

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<v Speaker 3>There you go.

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<v Speaker 4>Now, we're watching. There's two games on that you're directly

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<v Speaker 4>tied to. We'll talk later at Rockies Road. But Liberty

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<v Speaker 4>is one of the games. Malik Willis played at Liberty,

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<v Speaker 4>and you called one.

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<v Speaker 3>Of his games at Liberty.

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<v Speaker 6>I think it was his first game at Liberty. I

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<v Speaker 6>want to say this is 2020, like COVID, like COVID. 2020, 2021,

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<v Speaker 6>one of those two. Yeah, because he was originally at Auburn,

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<v Speaker 6>and then he transferred to Liberty, and there was a

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<v Speaker 6>lot of hype around him and his potential and all that.

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<v Speaker 3>From what I recall, he didn't have a great game.

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<v Speaker 3>I remember being like, I don't know. But then, I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>you give him a lot of credit.

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<v Speaker 6>He worked a lot and made his way, found his

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<v Speaker 6>way into the league, and he just got that big contract,

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<v Speaker 6>which is pretty significant for a backup.

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<v Speaker 3>So, yeah, good for him.

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<v Speaker 4>We'll talk more of Malik and the Dolphins coming up

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<v Speaker 4>in the 8 o'clock hour.

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<v Speaker 5>Greg Shoemaker. around the corner at 736.

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<v Speaker 4>We were on the defensive side of things, so let's

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<v Speaker 4>stay there with just a quick final thought. It kills

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<v Speaker 4>me that I think they are now, I think the

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<v Speaker 4>number I looked at earlier this week, the Bengals are

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<v Speaker 4>giving up, I think it's two times as many yards

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<v Speaker 4>per game to tight ends than either the league average,

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<v Speaker 4>They're giving up two times as many yards to the

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<v Speaker 4>tight ends. And I saw a note how few times

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<v Speaker 4>the Bengals' corners were thrown at, targeted. And clearly, they're

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<v Speaker 4>not being targeted because they're targeting the linebackers in the

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<v Speaker 4>middle of the field.

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<v Speaker 3>It's amazing. Here's a larger question. Can we get a

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<v Speaker 3>different problem year to year? That's the thing. It kills me.

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<v Speaker 6>The inability to stop a tight end, the inability to tackle,

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<v Speaker 6>the inability to break tackles.

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<v Speaker 3>I feel like those same things we talk about.

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<v Speaker 4>Give me a different one. We can't cover all this.

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<v Speaker 4>That's the genesis, not to get off on another Zach tangent.

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<v Speaker 4>But that's the genesis of my frustration with Zach because

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<v Speaker 4>it seems like the cycle of talking points just keeps

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<v Speaker 4>churning and they're always the same thing. And I'm like,

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<v Speaker 4>how can it always be the same thing eight years in?

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<v Speaker 3>That means you're not taking care of any of these things.

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<v Speaker 5>Kills me. Not getting worked up. I refuse to get

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<v Speaker 5>worked up.

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<v Speaker 3>I like worked up, Lance.

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<v Speaker 5>Can you give us one more duh?

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<v Speaker 3>Duh. There you go. He's Rocky. I'm Lance.

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<v Speaker 4>It's the Roundtable Show presented by Cincinnati. I'm going to

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<v Speaker 4>use that as a drop. As Willie would say, that's

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<v Speaker 4>a cut.

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<v Speaker 3>That's a cut.

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<v Speaker 4>keep it moving along on this Thursday night of the

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<v Speaker 4>giveaway at nine o'clock. Got to be here to win.

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<v Speaker 4>We've navigated our way through some Bengals conversations, UC football conversation.

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<v Speaker 4>Around the corner is Dan Klaskens with Fantasy Football. But

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<v Speaker 4>for the moment, let's put the spotlight on high school football.

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<v Speaker 4>There's one guy we turn to. High school football tonight show, tristatefootball.com.

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<v Speaker 4>He has, for the record, been hobnobbing around, seeing like

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<v Speaker 4>big musical.

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<v Speaker 5>Acts and hitting the town. But he's come back.

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<v Speaker 3>He's back. And we're back with Greg Shoemaker. How are you?

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<v Speaker 4>I am wonderful.

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<v Speaker 7>I have missed you guys over the last couple of weeks. And, yeah,

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<v Speaker 7>hopped off four nights at Permanent Beyond.

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<v Speaker 11>Nice.

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<v Speaker 14>The following week, I went up to Field of Dreams

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<v Speaker 14>in Iowa.

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<v Speaker 7>There was Ohio State football.

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<v Speaker 1>Nice.

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<v Speaker 7>Saturday at Iowa.

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<v Speaker 14>And then, Lance and Rocky, you being an Indianapolis guy.

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<v Speaker 7>Made my first trip. to St. Elmo's and had the

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<v Speaker 7>shrimp cocktail.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, my goodness. Clear your nostrils and sinuses, man. That's right, buddy. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>get it ready.

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<v Speaker 7>It was worth it. And then the slippery noodle to

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<v Speaker 7>end everything off on Sunday.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, man, you checked a lot of boxes.

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<v Speaker 5>Excellent.

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<v Speaker 3>Excellent. Very nice. Very nice.

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<v Speaker 7>Bucket list weekend for sure.

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<v Speaker 3>Excellent. Excellent.

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<v Speaker 4>All right, let's get to some high school football. Let's

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<v Speaker 4>start with Elder at Highlands. Highlands rolling and Elder's defense struggling.

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<v Speaker 7>Boy, you got that right, Lance.

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<v Speaker 14>You know, Elder started off the year 5-0, but they've

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<v Speaker 14>lost their last two games to St.

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<v Speaker 7>X and Moeller.

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<v Speaker 14>The defense in that time has given up 897 yards,

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<v Speaker 14>but here's the disturbing fact about that.

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<v Speaker 7>Elder's defense has given.

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<v Speaker 14>Up 16-24 third-down conversions and 3-4 fourth-down conversions, so they're

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<v Speaker 14>not getting off the field. They gave up 66 points

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<v Speaker 14>in those two games, and they only gave up 30

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<v Speaker 14>points in their first five victories, so Yeah, they're in trouble,

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<v Speaker 14>and Highlands, like you said, they're red hot. They've won

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<v Speaker 14>six in a row after losing their opener. They're averaging

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<v Speaker 14>47.5 points per game in those six wins, and it's just,

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<v Speaker 14>I mean, those two teams, they're going in different directions,

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<v Speaker 14>but I do say this. Both teams have wins over

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<v Speaker 14>Cub Cap. Elder won a little bit more over Cub

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<v Speaker 14>Cap than Highlands did, but Elder did play Cub Cap

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<v Speaker 14>at home, and Highlands played him on the road, so

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<v Speaker 14>that's one factor there. I think It's going to be

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<v Speaker 14>a very close game, very high scoring game, and the

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<v Speaker 14>quarterbacks are going to steal the show in this one.

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<v Speaker 7>They're mirror images of each other.

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<v Speaker 14>Elder senior quarterback Caden Eastep, he leads the GCL South

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<v Speaker 14>in passing yards, and it's second in passing rushing yards.

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<v Speaker 14>And he's accounted for 22 touchdowns on the year, 18

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<v Speaker 14>through the air, four on the ground. During this two-game

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<v Speaker 14>losing streak for.

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<v Speaker 7>Elder, He has also not missed a beat.

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<v Speaker 14>He's gone 42-54 for 650 yards and six touchdowns through

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<v Speaker 14>the year and one rushing, so it's not his fault

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<v Speaker 14>on that end, but sophomore quarterback in Highlands.

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<v Speaker 7>Bryce Armstrong is a real deal. He's starting to get

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<v Speaker 7>some offers.

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<v Speaker 14>He's also a dual-threat quarterback, leads the team on rushing yards,

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<v Speaker 14>throwing for 900 as well, over 500 rushing, and like Eastep,

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<v Speaker 14>he's also combined for 21 touchdowns passing and rushing.

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<v Speaker 7>Very interesting game here.

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<v Speaker 14>One thing I really think is interesting about Highlands is

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<v Speaker 14>Armstrong doesn't have 900 yards passing, but he has hit

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<v Speaker 14>19 different receivers through seven games. The guy who has

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<v Speaker 14>the most catches on that team has 16.

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<v Speaker 7>Nobody else has more than nine.

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<v Speaker 14>They have a shuttle running out at slot and on

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<v Speaker 14>the end.

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<v Speaker 7>It'll be interesting to see if the elder defense can.

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<v Speaker 14>Keep up with the speed and the versatility of the

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<v Speaker 14>Highlands offense.

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<v Speaker 6>All right, Greg, we've got a Southwest Ohio Conference title

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<v Speaker 6>and playoff implications at stake when Talawanda takes on Harrison.

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<v Speaker 3>Harrison Wildcats, 6-1. How are you seeing this?

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<v Speaker 14>Yeah, so this is the last of the Southwest Ohio

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<v Speaker 14>Conference titles to be won. And these two teams are

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<v Speaker 14>sitting at 6-1 each. They're both in Division II, Region VIII.

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<v Speaker 14>So not only are they battling for the league title,

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<v Speaker 14>they're also looking to get a first-round buy in the

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<v Speaker 14>playoffs and host a second-round game. Right now, the computer

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<v Speaker 14>rankings through seven weeks. Harrison is sitting at number three

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<v Speaker 14>in the rankings and Kalawanda at six. So the winner

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<v Speaker 14>here is really going to set himself up nicely to

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<v Speaker 14>get a first-round buy in the playoffs. But here's the

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<v Speaker 14>interesting thing about this series. They've been playing for 20

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<v Speaker 14>straight years. Harrison holds an 18-2 advantage in this series

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<v Speaker 14>over the last 20 years.

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<v Speaker 7>So, you know, I want to go with Harrison, especially

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<v Speaker 7>at home in this one. And I also like this

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<v Speaker 7>about Harrison.

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<v Speaker 11>They get up.

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<v Speaker 14>They've got a pair of defensive backs that over the

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<v Speaker 14>last two games have combined for 23 interceptions.

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<v Speaker 7>Ben Markarian.

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<v Speaker 3>He's going to Northern Illinois.

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<v Speaker 7>He's got 11 over the last two years. And Jack Denier.

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<v Speaker 14>Has got 12 over the last 20 games. So the

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<v Speaker 14>23 over the last 20 games for the Wildcats, which

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<v Speaker 14>is something, guys, this.

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<v Speaker 7>Is something I've never seen. I've never seen two guys

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<v Speaker 7>in a backfield in a high school or defense in a.

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<v Speaker 14>Backfield in a high school with double-digit interceptions on the

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<v Speaker 14>same team.

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<v Speaker 9>I mean, because.

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<v Speaker 14>Usually you go away from one guy, and the other

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<v Speaker 14>guy capitalizes on interceptions.

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<v Speaker 7>But you can't do that against Harrison, which I think

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<v Speaker 7>is really cool.

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<v Speaker 4>All right, Alter at McNick, sole possession of first place

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<v Speaker 4>in the conference, up for grabs.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, really cool story here. Both teams sitting at 5-2

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<v Speaker 7>in the GCL co-ed, both at 2-0 in the league.

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<v Speaker 14>McNick hasn't won a league title since 2017. They've ripped

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<v Speaker 14>off four straight wins after starting 1-2.

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<v Speaker 7>They've been fantastic. Their quarterback, Evan Sanfoss, is 41-57.

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<v Speaker 14>For 618 yards and nine touchdowns, zero interceptions during their

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<v Speaker 14>four-game winning streak after.

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<v Speaker 7>Starting one and two.

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<v Speaker 14>He threw five interceptions and just two interceptions in their

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<v Speaker 14>first three weeks of the season.

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<v Speaker 7>So they're rolling right along.

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<v Speaker 14>And then defensive end for Hamilton, Max Hamilton.

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<v Speaker 7>He has eight and a half.

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<v Speaker 14>Sacks, 14 and a half tackles for losses just in

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<v Speaker 14>the last three games alone. He's been a wrecking crew

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<v Speaker 14>for the Rockets defense.

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<v Speaker 7>But that said, I don't think he's going to have

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<v Speaker 7>that kind of night. because Alter is going to run

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<v Speaker 7>the football with Drew Cripps. He's a Miami of Ohio.

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<v Speaker 14>He's a fantastic running back and defensive back.

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<v Speaker 7>He's going to be one of those kids we talk

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<v Speaker 7>about about.

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<v Speaker 14>Three years at Miami of Ohio. Drew Cripps, don't forget him.

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<v Speaker 14>And here's the other thing cool about this. These teams

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<v Speaker 14>are both jockeying for position in Division III Region XII computer,

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<v Speaker 14>where Nick's sitting at number nine in the ratings, Alter's

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<v Speaker 14>at number 10. So neither one of them is in

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<v Speaker 14>a position yet to get a first-round buy in the playoffs.

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<v Speaker 7>And both of them still have number, Fahey, who's number

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<v Speaker 7>21 in the Bullets 25 rankings, both left on the schedule.

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<v Speaker 7>And Fahey was one of the last eight GCL co-ed titles.

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<v Speaker 14>So there's lots to be still played for in the

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<v Speaker 14>GCL co-eds. And it's going to be a heck of

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<v Speaker 14>a night over at Penn Station Stadium on the inside

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<v Speaker 14>of town.

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<v Speaker 6>All right, Greg, lastly, we've got a couple unbeaten teams

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<v Speaker 6>going at it.

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<v Speaker 3>The Hughes Big Red at CCPA. What are you seeing

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<v Speaker 3>in this?

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<v Speaker 10>How about that?

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<v Speaker 7>This is a cool story, everybody.

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<v Speaker 14>So these two teams weren't scheduled to play when the

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<v Speaker 14>season started. Woodward was supposed to play against Hughes this week,

1:14:16.090 --> 1:14:20.150
<v Speaker 14>and CCPA was supposed to play Schroeder. Both those teams

1:14:20.470 --> 1:14:23.450
<v Speaker 14>are combined 2-11 on the year. But both of them

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<v Speaker 14>had open dates, and so did Hughes and CCPA. They

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<v Speaker 14>switched the games around so we could have a matchup

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<v Speaker 14>between 7-0 teams.

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<v Speaker 3>Pretty cool.

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<v Speaker 7>It just happened to work. We have Jeff.

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<v Speaker 14>Cargill talking about it on the pregame portion of high

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<v Speaker 14>school football tonight. But what's really cool about this is

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<v Speaker 14>this is history-making all over the Cincinnati Public Leagues. CC8PA

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<v Speaker 14>is 7-0 for the first time in school history. 17th

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<v Speaker 14>season for the program. The Lions have never won more

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<v Speaker 14>than eight games in a year. Hughes is 7-0 for

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<v Speaker 14>the first time in 102 years.

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<v Speaker 9>And they are looking to go.

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<v Speaker 7>They are looking to go.

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<v Speaker 14>Great wins for the first time since 1988 and only

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<v Speaker 14>their second time in their career. And here's the other

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<v Speaker 14>cool thing about Hughes, and I'm really rooting for him,

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<v Speaker 14>Jalen Engelman, their head coach, is just.

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<v Speaker 7>25 years old. He is a former Wentworth standout.

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<v Speaker 14>Wow.

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<v Speaker 7>They wanted him to get the job.

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<v Speaker 14>His uncle retired last year.

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<v Speaker 7>He was an assistant there, and the players wanted him,

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<v Speaker 7>and he's having a blast. At 25 years old, 7-0

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<v Speaker 7>in a CMAX school. It's just, you couldn't write a

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<v Speaker 7>better Disney story than that.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh, what a cool story. Absolutely.

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<v Speaker 4>All right, then look ahead to tomorrow night. Set up

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<v Speaker 4>the high school football tonight show and all that's going on.

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<v Speaker 14>Yeah, so that CCPA-Hughes game, it's on Saturday, but we'll

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<v Speaker 14>have Jeff Cargill, the head coach at CCPA, talking about it,

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<v Speaker 14>talking about his team.

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<v Speaker 7>That's a great one in the pregame portion. Also have

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<v Speaker 7>David Dransman, the head coach at Taylor.

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<v Speaker 14>He's 1-6 right now, but they're playing 7-0 Deer Park.

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<v Speaker 14>And he talks about adversity. He played five different quarterbacks.

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<v Speaker 14>They're down to their third-string quarterback after seven weeks.

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<v Speaker 6>Oh, my God.

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<v Speaker 7>So, yeah, five different guys take snaps last week. And

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<v Speaker 7>he talked about how you handle adversity. And it was

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<v Speaker 7>really a great interview with him. And then Nick Osborne.

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<v Speaker 14>From Western Brown, he talks there. He's still in a

1:16:21.600 --> 1:16:26.320
<v Speaker 14>battle for playing– The SBAAC title, they got new Richmond.

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<v Speaker 7>They're 1-1 in the league.

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<v Speaker 14>And it's still a league that's pretty much open for

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<v Speaker 14>a division title, even though they're sitting at 2-5.

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<v Speaker 7>They're a young team, too. Again, another adversity situation. Great,

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<v Speaker 7>great coaches with that.

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<v Speaker 14>And then after the same next LaSalle game, we'll step

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<v Speaker 14>one and I'll be back on until 11 o'clock.

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<v Speaker 7>With coach interviews and scoreboard updates all night long. Fox

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<v Speaker 7>Sports 1360 and ESPN 1530.

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<v Speaker 3>Excellent, excellent.

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<v Speaker 4>I've got about a minute. What was Field of Dreams like?

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<v Speaker 7>Fantastic. We happened to catch it with a bunch of

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<v Speaker 7>Ohio State fans.

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<v Speaker 14>One of the guys in the bar was like, hey,

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<v Speaker 14>catch this out, Iowa fans.

1:17:09.540 --> 1:17:12.120
<v Speaker 7>He went, OH, and everybody went IO, and everybody in

1:17:12.180 --> 1:17:14.260
<v Speaker 7>Iowa went WA. It was.

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<v Speaker 23>Awesome.

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<v Speaker 7>It was a great trip. Field of Dreams, if you

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<v Speaker 7>can It's.

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<v Speaker 5>Out in the middle of nowhere.

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<v Speaker 11>It is.

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<v Speaker 7>I highly recommend the trip.

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<v Speaker 9>It's a cool place.

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<v Speaker 3>Excellent.

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<v Speaker 5>Good deal. Glad you enjoyed it. Good catching up, and

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<v Speaker 5>we'll talk next week.

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<v Speaker 7>Sounds good, guys. Have a great weekend.

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<v Speaker 3>You as well.

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<v Speaker 4>Visit OrthoHealWaterproofCast.com. He's Rocky Boyman. I'm Lance McAllister. Let's talk

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<v Speaker 4>a little fantasy football. Our next guest, a regular, a

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<v Speaker 4>staple of the show, host of Fantistics Insider Football, SiriusXMFantasyInsiderFootball.com.

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<v Speaker 5>Always a pleasure to welcome in Dan Klaskens. How we doing?

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<v Speaker 9>Oh, doing fantastic.

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<v Speaker 24>Top of the evening to you, and man, another great

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<v Speaker 24>fantasy game here tonight.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, no doubt about that.

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<v Speaker 4>Let's get into, got to start factoring in, thinking about

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<v Speaker 4>always being aware of buys.

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<v Speaker 5>Let's talk a little buy weeks and looking ahead.

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<v Speaker 24>Yeah, Lance, we don't like injuries, we don't like buys,

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<v Speaker 24>and they start this week. It's a light week, just

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<v Speaker 24>Carolina and Kansas City, so most fantasy managers should be

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<v Speaker 24>in pretty good shape, but don't get comfortable. Four teams

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<v Speaker 24>are off in each of the next three weeks, so

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<v Speaker 24>we've got to plan ahead here, plan ahead on the waivers,

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<v Speaker 24>on the wires. Don't always use that last bench spot

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<v Speaker 24>of the player that can help you this week. Think

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<v Speaker 24>about next week. What quarterback are tight ends on a bike?

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<v Speaker 24>Grab that replacement a week early. It's especially valuable at

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<v Speaker 24>your thinner positions. You've got to look beyond one matchup.

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<v Speaker 24>Bottom line, good fantasy managers, they reacted last week. Great

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<v Speaker 24>ones are already preparing for next week.

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<v Speaker 3>Interesting.

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<v Speaker 6>All right, let's go ahead and let's get the injuries.

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<v Speaker 6>I know Lamar Jackson has warmed them and plenty of others.

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<v Speaker 9>Yeah, no doubt about it. We'll start at quarterback.

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<v Speaker 24>As you mentioned, Rocky, Lamar Jackson at this ankle issue

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<v Speaker 24>did not practice yesterday, didn't go today. Tyler Huntley looking

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<v Speaker 24>like he's going to start here in Atlanta, so Lamar

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<v Speaker 24>managers need to have.

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<v Speaker 9>A backup plan ready. Better news for Jaden Daniels with

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<v Speaker 9>his elbow issues. Looks like he's good to go.

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<v Speaker 24>A little bit of a depleted receiver core there, so

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<v Speaker 24>that could also.

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<v Speaker 9>Impact his value.

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<v Speaker 24>Saquon Barkley, Devontae Smith, both looking like they're going to

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<v Speaker 24>miss the game in England with the hamstring injury there.

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<v Speaker 24>And Dallas Goddard's about the Eagles. Some wounded birds. Brees

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<v Speaker 24>Hall with his quad issue. A week-to-week thing. Doesn't look

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<v Speaker 24>like he's going to play in week five.

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<v Speaker 9>DeAndre Swift.

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<v Speaker 24>He is a little bit better off than his teammate

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<v Speaker 24>Kyle Menungai. Both of them guys to track on Friday,

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<v Speaker 24>as will be Ramondre Stevenson. I know you guys have

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<v Speaker 24>talked a ton about Jamar and Tee already here, but

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<v Speaker 24>clearly that's going to have a big fantasy impact. And

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<v Speaker 24>if one or both of them make a significant boost

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<v Speaker 24>in a sudden fantasy sleeper, Malik neighbors with his issue,

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<v Speaker 24>Justin Jefferson and Terry McCorn.

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<v Speaker 9>Three more wideouts. We'll see what happens on Friday.

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<v Speaker 4>All right, let's do our weekly look at the studs, duds,

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<v Speaker 4>and sleepers you've got.

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<v Speaker 9>Oh, yes. Let's start with our studs.

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<v Speaker 24>And we've got Jarrett Goff at the top of the

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<v Speaker 24>list this week at quarterback. One of the highest scoring

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<v Speaker 24>games projected for Week 5, Arizona and Detroit. We know

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<v Speaker 24>the cards have been vulnerable through the air, and Goff

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<v Speaker 24>has plenty of weapons. One of my favorite quarterback plays

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<v Speaker 24>this week. The other stud, Kyron Williams, been a stud

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<v Speaker 24>all year. And don't just buy the idea this is

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<v Speaker 24>a split back, though, because over the last two games,

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<v Speaker 24>47 carries and catches combined. with just 14 for Blake Corman.

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<v Speaker 24>All the money touches are going to Kyron Williams. He's

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<v Speaker 24>a high-end RB1. On the duds with all the injuries

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<v Speaker 24>we talked about for the Eagles, Jalen Hurts outside my

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<v Speaker 24>top 12. Actually, outside my top 15 this week at quarterback.

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<v Speaker 9>So they got Jacksonville. It's a good defense. No weapons.

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<v Speaker 11>Not good.

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<v Speaker 24>Bucky Irving. We're also not high on him. Tonight versus Dallas.

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<v Speaker 24>And a couple sleepers, Carnell Tate and Isaiah Likely. Wide

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<v Speaker 24>out there for Tennessee. And the Giants tight end.

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<v Speaker 5>Dan, as you know full well, it is.

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<v Speaker 4>Never too late for listeners to get into the Do

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<v Speaker 4>Good Fantasy salary cap challenge.

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<v Speaker 5>Tell them how they can get involved.

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<v Speaker 9>Yeah, Lance, we're real excited.

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<v Speaker 24>Obviously, a lot of people with injuries, maybe their fantasy

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<v Speaker 24>seasons are going bad. Even if they're not, everybody, a

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<v Speaker 24>whole week is a whole new lineup, a whole new

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<v Speaker 24>chance to win. It's all to help our veterans through DAV.

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<v Speaker 24>I think you can build a perfect lineup each week.

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<v Speaker 9>Just put it to test.

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<v Speaker 24>We get a salary cap, one big week. We got

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<v Speaker 24>paying down the top 23 weeks on the season over

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<v Speaker 24>$ 6, 000 in prizes, and it all supports America's veterans.

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<v Speaker 9>So get in the game. You can learn more. DoGoodFantasy.com.

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<v Speaker 5>Sounds like a plan.

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<v Speaker 3>Always good catching up. We'll do it again next week.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you.

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<v Speaker 11>Yes.

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<v Speaker 9>Enjoy the game, fellas. I appreciate it. Have a great night.

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<v Speaker 3>You got it.

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<v Speaker 4>He's Dan Klaskens with our fantasy football segment each and

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<v Speaker 4>every week.

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<v Speaker 5>The 8 o'clock hour will.

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<v Speaker 4>Include more on the Bengals, the offense, the run game.

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<v Speaker 4>A little bit more on injuries. We've got some perspective

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<v Speaker 4>on the Dolphins to get to. Want to get into

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<v Speaker 4>NFL officiating later on in the 8 o'clock hour. Something

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<v Speaker 4>Peter King said to me last night on Sports Talk

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<v Speaker 4>I'd love for you to react to. You know, while

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<v Speaker 4>I'm thinking about it, we've got time to do at

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<v Speaker 4>least a bit of a segment on it. I am

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<v Speaker 4>struck by, and this is like cycled back into a

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<v Speaker 4>topic again. And I remember we talked about this.

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<v Speaker 3>It's not new.

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<v Speaker 4>The Colts' principal owner, Carly Ursae Gordon, one of the

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<v Speaker 4>two sisters, and they've assumed control of the team since

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<v Speaker 4>their dad passed away. Rock, the controversy has, the debate,

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<v Speaker 4>let's say, has ramped up again because, for those who

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<v Speaker 4>don't know, she is down on the sidelines during the game,

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<v Speaker 4>and she has a notepad, and she keeps... notes and

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<v Speaker 4>she wears an earpiece headphones that gives her access to

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<v Speaker 4>the coaches uh headset she can't talk and communicate with

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<v Speaker 4>them but she can hear what's going on and and

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<v Speaker 4>she has said in the end she wants to educate

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<v Speaker 4>herself on on the game and the organization's business and

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<v Speaker 4>how they they operate football wise and the approach to

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<v Speaker 4>the game and and she said i have like a

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<v Speaker 4>fifth grade reading level when it comes to understanding the

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<v Speaker 4>game just the basic concepts i want to know more

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<v Speaker 4>There continues to be a pushback to her presence on

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<v Speaker 4>the sidelines. Do you have an objection to an owner

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<v Speaker 4>seeking knowledge of what's going on and why by taking

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<v Speaker 4>notes on the sidelines?

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I remember we talked about this last year, and

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<v Speaker 6>I said I was for it. Well, I've switched my mind.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm kind of over it. So you're a flip-flopper. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm kind of over it. A couple times is fine.

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<v Speaker 6>It's like two straight seasons down on the sideline asking

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<v Speaker 6>everybody what's going on.

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<v Speaker 3>Got the headset on.

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<v Speaker 6>I just feel like everyone's got to tiptoe around on eggshells.

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<v Speaker 6>And I would say this if she was a man,

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<v Speaker 6>a woman, anything. I just think a little bit was okay.

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<v Speaker 6>I think it's just kind of played itself out a

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<v Speaker 6>little bit.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I've read one concern is her access to the

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<v Speaker 4>headsets of what's going on, the communication between the coaches.

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<v Speaker 4>might lead to the coaches being obviously not as comfortable

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<v Speaker 4>or maybe not saying things in the way they normally would.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't know how much there is to that.

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<v Speaker 3>I think there's something to that. I just wonder, the week-to-week,

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<v Speaker 3>why it couldn't be.

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<v Speaker 5>Does it have to be week to week?

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<v Speaker 3>That's where I'm at.

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<v Speaker 4>I understand, hey, if I owned the team, I'd want

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<v Speaker 4>to know what's going on. I'd want to have a

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<v Speaker 4>better understanding, but I can't see doing it every week.

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<v Speaker 4>I would think there's only so many notes you can take.

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<v Speaker 3>I guess it leads you to wonder, what are you

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<v Speaker 3>looking for beyond taking notes?

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<v Speaker 6>I just feel like it would distract a coach from like,

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<v Speaker 6>doing things and saying things that are natural and more

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<v Speaker 6>on like, hey, there's the boss.

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<v Speaker 3>I got to kind of say something this way.

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<v Speaker 4>I love the fact that it's not a hands-off, because

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<v Speaker 4>a lot of owners, you'd be lucky if they know

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<v Speaker 4>the players' names.

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<v Speaker 3>They just own the team.

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<v Speaker 4>So I appreciate the desire to know more. I just,

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, I'd almost.

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<v Speaker 4>Is she at practice? Because I'd have no problem with

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<v Speaker 4>her being at practice. But I just wonder why it

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<v Speaker 4>has to be the game every week and taking notes

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<v Speaker 4>every game. You just seem to think there would reach

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<v Speaker 4>a point where, okay, I've gathered enough. Maybe now I'll

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<v Speaker 4>have a conversation on what I've learned, not having to

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<v Speaker 4>gather every single game.

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<v Speaker 6>That's right. When she took over the ownership of the team,

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<v Speaker 6>what was that, last year? Okay, a couple games, really

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<v Speaker 6>kind of swimming in. really swimming here. Let me figure

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<v Speaker 6>out a little bit what's going on with my team.

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<v Speaker 6>But at this point, I won't say it looks showy,

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<v Speaker 6>but it's just kind of like, I don't know, it's

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<v Speaker 6>like enough.

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<v Speaker 3>I just think it's kind of enough. You can go

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<v Speaker 3>to the box.

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<v Speaker 6>You can get the headset, audio stuff pumped into you

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<v Speaker 6>very easily up there.

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<v Speaker 3>I just think it can be distracting for the coaches

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<v Speaker 3>and the players.

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<v Speaker 4>We've put two hours in the books. We've got a

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<v Speaker 4>We started talking about the offense and the run game

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<v Speaker 4>and the issues.

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<v Speaker 5>Offensively for this team. A couple of things that Tony said.

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<v Speaker 4>On Monday during Bengals line that stuck with me I

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<v Speaker 4>thought would be worth discussing. The run game was woeful

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<v Speaker 4>on Sunday, of course. Chase Brown averages 1.1 yards per carry.

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<v Speaker 4>They carried, what, 15 times on the day. Here's what

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<v Speaker 4>Tony said about that Monday night on Sunday.

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<v Speaker 3>Bengals' line.

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<v Speaker 13>As crazy as yesterday's game was, and looking at the

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<v Speaker 13>box score after it, that was the most jarring number.

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<v Speaker 13>Because of what we had heard about this team, they

1:28:48.470 --> 1:28:50.210
<v Speaker 13>want to be more physical. They want to be under center.

1:28:50.229 --> 1:28:51.950
<v Speaker 13>They want to run the ball downhill. They want to

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<v Speaker 13>rely on that continuity of those five returning starters on

1:28:54.680 --> 1:28:56.660
<v Speaker 13>the offensive line coming back. And they're going to be

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<v Speaker 13>able to operate more in 12 personnel, which helps because

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<v Speaker 13>you're going to have Drew Sample and Tanner Hudson and

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<v Speaker 13>Eric All, and they're all going to help in the

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<v Speaker 13>running game. And in a game you needed it most,

1:29:04.300 --> 1:29:07.920
<v Speaker 13>it disappeared. We can't emphasize enough, Lance. Jamar Chase left

1:29:07.939 --> 1:29:10.120
<v Speaker 13>the game in the second quarter. If you're playing without

1:29:10.540 --> 1:29:13.849
<v Speaker 13>the best receiver in football, wouldn't that tend to lead

1:29:13.890 --> 1:29:16.630
<v Speaker 13>you to believe to run the ball more? They didn't

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<v Speaker 13>have to be one dimensional. play action pass is supposed

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<v Speaker 13>to be designed to get easy completions and help your

1:29:22.350 --> 1:29:24.920
<v Speaker 13>offensive line against the pass rush they got sacked twice

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<v Speaker 13>yesterday on play action passes because their run game is

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<v Speaker 13>not effective enough or threatening enough to set up the

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<v Speaker 13>play action so it's one thing to say we're going

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<v Speaker 13>to go under center we're going to be play action

1:29:35.180 --> 1:29:37.439
<v Speaker 13>we're going to hit shots down the field if the

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<v Speaker 13>defense doesn't respect the run game it all stops there.

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<v Speaker 4>Tony Pike earlier this week on Bengals line, and Rock,

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<v Speaker 4>as a former defender, I'll defer to you, that point

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<v Speaker 4>about the play action. We can talk all you want,

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<v Speaker 4>but if you're a defender, you're basically laughing at him

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<v Speaker 4>at this point.

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<v Speaker 3>Play action? Why would I be worried about play action?

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<v Speaker 3>It has no effect if you're not running the ball. Absolutely.

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<v Speaker 6>I just feel like the Bengals, of course they wanted

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<v Speaker 6>to run the ball, and I bet you they came

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<v Speaker 6>into that game feeling really, really good about their game

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<v Speaker 6>plan in terms of the run game.

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<v Speaker 3>It just didn't work.

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<v Speaker 6>And I just feel like maybe they felt they were

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<v Speaker 6>at a point where clearly we got out-schemed or they're

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<v Speaker 6>doing something we weren't ready for.

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<v Speaker 3>It's not our day right now with this.

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<v Speaker 6>So they wanted to, in the heat of the moment,

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<v Speaker 6>try to do some things that were going to help

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<v Speaker 6>them win the game.

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<v Speaker 3>It just didn't work out.

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<v Speaker 5>And we've talked about this before, and I think there's something, too.

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<v Speaker 4>I've never viewed Zach as, let's take even Joe out

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<v Speaker 4>of it, I've never viewed Zach as having the mentality

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<v Speaker 4>to be physical in nature.

1:30:41.510 --> 1:30:42.950
<v Speaker 3>He's not Dan Campbell, right?

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<v Speaker 8>Yes.

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<v Speaker 6>He's not like a, yeah, I mean, yeah, I feel

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<v Speaker 6>like a head coach is a reflection of the style

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<v Speaker 6>of play of their team. Even with the Colts with Dungy,

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<v Speaker 6>Dungy's not a slobber coming out of his mouth, we're

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<v Speaker 6>going to, you know.

1:30:55.880 --> 1:30:57.000
<v Speaker 3>Crush you kind of guy.

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<v Speaker 6>We threw the ball a lot, and we ran the

1:30:58.680 --> 1:31:01.750
<v Speaker 6>ball and everything was good too, but like, Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 6>feel like your team does take on the identity of

1:31:04.390 --> 1:31:06.430
<v Speaker 6>your coach, and that's not necessarily.

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<v Speaker 3>A bad thing. It just is what it is.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, and you mentioned it with Traggs.

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<v Speaker 4>It's not like this offensive line, while there's continuity certainly

1:31:13.390 --> 1:31:15.810
<v Speaker 4>with guys coming back, it's not like an offensive line

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<v Speaker 4>that I would.

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<v Speaker 5>Describe as a group of maulers. They're not the go 80s.

1:31:22.150 --> 1:31:25.430
<v Speaker 4>They're not the hogs of the Washington Redskins days or

1:31:25.490 --> 1:31:29.030
<v Speaker 4>the Larry Allen Dallas Cowboy days. I don't want to

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<v Speaker 4>say they're... I'm not going to say they're finesse. I'm

1:31:31.490 --> 1:31:33.280
<v Speaker 4>not going to say they're soft. I'm just saying I

1:31:33.320 --> 1:31:36.740
<v Speaker 4>just don't view them as, like, snot coming out of

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<v Speaker 4>their nose, finger in the ground.

1:31:38.400 --> 1:31:40.240
<v Speaker 3>We're going to plow through you.

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<v Speaker 6>No, I agree with that. I think every Bengals fan

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<v Speaker 6>would be honest about that.

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<v Speaker 3>You know what?

1:31:46.500 --> 1:31:48.280
<v Speaker 5>Let me ask you something about it. And I said

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<v Speaker 5>this earlier in the week.

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<v Speaker 4>This is more the emotional me than the common sense

1:31:51.640 --> 1:31:53.879
<v Speaker 4>side of me. And you know I can get emotional sometimes.

1:31:54.320 --> 1:31:56.920
<v Speaker 4>But I would like to see just one time, just

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<v Speaker 4>maybe to humor me, and I'd almost pay the fines.

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<v Speaker 4>It really bothers me the liberties that defenders take with

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<v Speaker 4>Joe Burrow on hits. And there was a double shot

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<v Speaker 4>tag team on Sunday where one Jaguar hit him low

1:32:12.189 --> 1:32:14.220
<v Speaker 4>and Armstead hit him under the chin.

1:32:14.260 --> 1:32:15.720
<v Speaker 5>And there was a flag called on the play.

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<v Speaker 4>But it seems like there's too many occasions where liberties

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<v Speaker 4>are taken with hits on Joe that go unanswered by

1:32:23.280 --> 1:32:26.120
<v Speaker 4>the Bengals offensive lineman. And I said I would love

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<v Speaker 4>just once, just once. And I know I get on

1:32:28.220 --> 1:32:30.930
<v Speaker 4>him for having too many penalties. But I would almost

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<v Speaker 4>pay a fine to see an offensive lineman after somebody

1:32:33.410 --> 1:32:36.230
<v Speaker 4>takes a run at Joe and lays him out, I

1:32:36.260 --> 1:32:38.900
<v Speaker 4>would like to see that offensive lineman yank the helmet

1:32:38.939 --> 1:32:41.780
<v Speaker 4>off a defender who hit him, throw it down the field,

1:32:42.120 --> 1:32:46.370
<v Speaker 4>and say, stop effing with my quarterback. And it would

1:32:46.390 --> 1:32:49.689
<v Speaker 4>be 15 yards for unsportsmanlike conduct. I'd just like to

1:32:49.750 --> 1:32:53.519
<v Speaker 4>see somebody say and be the bodyguard of, stop effing.

1:32:53.810 --> 1:32:57.900
<v Speaker 4>taking shots on our quarterback am i being irrational.

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<v Speaker 6>With that no but you are going down a road

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<v Speaker 6>here that is can get philosophical and is it say

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<v Speaker 6>something about how the bangles line feels about burrow because

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<v Speaker 6>again like you know not to mention him again but

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<v Speaker 6>People didn't take cheap shots at Peyton Manning. Those guys

1:33:12.760 --> 1:33:16.980
<v Speaker 6>were up in their face. Even Steve McNair, who was a...

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<v Speaker 6>I think it's more.

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<v Speaker 4>I think it goes back to what we initially said

1:33:20.600 --> 1:33:23.599
<v Speaker 4>of just the mentality of not... I think a mauler-type

1:33:23.680 --> 1:33:26.190
<v Speaker 4>offensive line, somebody would get in the grill and yank

1:33:26.250 --> 1:33:27.710
<v Speaker 4>a helmet off, and I just think it.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't want to call him passive, and I don't

1:33:29.530 --> 1:33:30.470
<v Speaker 3>want to call him soft.

1:33:30.910 --> 1:33:33.389
<v Speaker 4>I just don't... But you would think of all things,

1:33:33.410 --> 1:33:36.710
<v Speaker 4>you'd take exception to somebody taking a run at your quarterback.

1:33:36.729 --> 1:33:39.780
<v Speaker 3>That shouldn't happen. I agree. I think it's less of a.

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<v Speaker 6>conversation about how they feel about Burrow and just that

1:33:42.830 --> 1:33:47.200
<v Speaker 6>they're not that, you know, that kind of offensive lineman. But,

1:33:47.640 --> 1:33:53.300
<v Speaker 6>you know, it's not easy, Lance, to find top-notch pass

1:33:53.360 --> 1:33:55.719
<v Speaker 6>blockers that are also amazing run blockers.

1:33:55.900 --> 1:33:58.280
<v Speaker 3>Those guys, they don't grow on trees, as I say.

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<v Speaker 3>At all. And I think because of that.

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<v Speaker 6>You're always making compromises when you're assembling a roster because

1:34:05.790 --> 1:34:08.130
<v Speaker 6>there's a salary cap and there's a roster limit. So,

1:34:09.110 --> 1:34:11.750
<v Speaker 6>you're never going to get a perfect everything. So what

1:34:11.790 --> 1:34:14.930
<v Speaker 6>can you live without? That's basically what you're saying. What

1:34:14.950 --> 1:34:17.650
<v Speaker 6>do I really need? I don't want to live without

1:34:18.090 --> 1:34:20.590
<v Speaker 6>if I have to. So you kind of make some compromises,

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<v Speaker 6>and I think that's how this line has been assembled.

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<v Speaker 4>One more comment Tony made about dictating terms when you're

1:34:27.630 --> 1:34:31.429
<v Speaker 4>as good as they are offensively in theory, dictating terms

1:34:31.490 --> 1:34:33.630
<v Speaker 4>instead of reacting to what the other team's doing. Here's

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<v Speaker 4>a little bit more from Tony on Monday Night on

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<v Speaker 4>Bengals Live.

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<v Speaker 13>For years, it's been they took this away or they

1:34:43.950 --> 1:34:46.309
<v Speaker 13>doubled Jamar so we had to go elsewhere. And to

1:34:46.350 --> 1:34:48.890
<v Speaker 13>that point, I say, no, you have to dictate. As

1:34:48.910 --> 1:34:51.170
<v Speaker 13>you mentioned, you've got to dictate what other teams are doing,

1:34:51.229 --> 1:34:54.910
<v Speaker 13>and you can't allow another defense to come in and

1:34:54.990 --> 1:34:58.090
<v Speaker 13>so easily take you out of the game. Okay, they're

1:34:58.110 --> 1:35:00.190
<v Speaker 13>going to bring an extra safety to Jamar's side. How

1:35:00.210 --> 1:35:01.940
<v Speaker 13>about moving him? Run him in the slot.

1:35:01.990 --> 1:35:03.560
<v Speaker 3>Put him in the bunch. Get him an easy release.

1:35:03.600 --> 1:35:04.439
<v Speaker 3>Put him in the backfield.

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<v Speaker 13>There has to be answers. I mean, you went almost

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<v Speaker 13>a whole quarter yesterday without a touch for Jamar Chase

1:35:09.820 --> 1:35:11.220
<v Speaker 13>until they got him one right before the end of

1:35:11.260 --> 1:35:14.840
<v Speaker 13>the court. That's not acceptable. You've got to find ways to...

1:35:15.229 --> 1:35:18.050
<v Speaker 13>to make other teams pay, to say, okay, you're adding

1:35:18.070 --> 1:35:19.410
<v Speaker 13>an extra hat here, and we're going to make.

1:35:19.330 --> 1:35:19.850
<v Speaker 3>You pay there.

1:35:20.350 --> 1:35:24.019
<v Speaker 13>There's no counter right now. Everything seems difficult for this offense.

1:35:25.040 --> 1:35:27.880
<v Speaker 3>I think that's a great... Yeah, it is, because it's

1:35:27.939 --> 1:35:29.150
<v Speaker 3>not like this is just a one.

1:35:30.700 --> 1:35:32.020
<v Speaker 3>Person-dominant team.

1:35:32.360 --> 1:35:32.540
<v Speaker 23>Right.

1:35:32.640 --> 1:35:36.990
<v Speaker 3>I mean, T. Higgins, Jamar Chase, Kosicki. Chase Brown. Chase Brown. Like,

1:35:37.770 --> 1:35:38.349
<v Speaker 3>they're there.

1:35:38.689 --> 1:35:41.730
<v Speaker 6>The options are there to his point where if you

1:35:41.770 --> 1:35:43.970
<v Speaker 6>do this, you're going to double Jamar, then we can

1:35:44.030 --> 1:35:44.650
<v Speaker 6>answer with this.

1:35:44.670 --> 1:35:47.710
<v Speaker 3>It doesn't seem like there's enough quick answers.

1:35:47.950 --> 1:35:50.890
<v Speaker 5>And there's also that it's rare. I'd love to see

1:35:50.930 --> 1:35:52.189
<v Speaker 5>the numbers. I could probably look them up.

1:35:52.729 --> 1:35:56.790
<v Speaker 4>They rarely seem to use, like, pre-snap motion and get guys, like,

1:35:56.939 --> 1:35:59.479
<v Speaker 4>free Jamar running start up.

1:35:59.860 --> 1:36:00.140
<v Speaker 3>It just.

1:36:02.670 --> 1:36:05.010
<v Speaker 4>I think Traggs used the word this week in his

1:36:05.050 --> 1:36:09.390
<v Speaker 4>piece on CLNS, Cincy with a Y.com, static. It can

1:36:09.410 --> 1:36:12.840
<v Speaker 4>be a static offense at times. There just seems to

1:36:12.900 --> 1:36:17.040
<v Speaker 4>be more that should be there. And Zach, if we're

1:36:17.080 --> 1:36:19.140
<v Speaker 4>in year eight, I think it's very fair to say,

1:36:19.340 --> 1:36:24.040
<v Speaker 4>appears incapable of drawing more out of it.

1:36:24.100 --> 1:36:26.729
<v Speaker 5>And I just find that very, very frustrating.

1:36:26.970 --> 1:36:27.330
<v Speaker 3>I agree.

1:36:28.320 --> 1:36:28.559
<v Speaker 5>All right.

1:36:28.600 --> 1:36:29.980
<v Speaker 4>Still ahead, let's get into a little bit on the

1:36:30.020 --> 1:36:34.780
<v Speaker 4>Miami Dolphins. I saw a note this week. I think

1:36:35.050 --> 1:36:39.030
<v Speaker 4>half of their salary cap, Rock, is being devoted to

1:36:39.110 --> 1:36:40.790
<v Speaker 4>guys no longer on the roster.

1:36:41.390 --> 1:36:43.809
<v Speaker 5>They have rebuilt. They traded away.

1:36:43.890 --> 1:36:47.410
<v Speaker 4>They cut Tua and shed a whole lot of money

1:36:47.450 --> 1:36:50.950
<v Speaker 4>that's on their books technically against the salary cap. But

1:36:51.010 --> 1:36:54.260
<v Speaker 4>it's a total rebuild in Miami. They're 0-4. We'll get

1:36:54.320 --> 1:36:55.880
<v Speaker 4>into that a little bit more on Malik Willis.

1:36:56.740 --> 1:36:57.740
<v Speaker 23>Oh, you know what?

1:36:57.800 --> 1:36:59.660
<v Speaker 4>Before we do that, let me finish off on the

1:36:59.700 --> 1:37:03.800
<v Speaker 4>Bengals thought. Would you subscribe to the theory, and not

1:37:03.860 --> 1:37:06.280
<v Speaker 4>because of the opponent this weekend, but Traggs mentioned it,

1:37:06.770 --> 1:37:09.750
<v Speaker 4>looks like Jamar could play. It looks like T because

1:37:09.770 --> 1:37:13.010
<v Speaker 4>of the growing issue, the adductor issue, they might buy

1:37:13.030 --> 1:37:13.729
<v Speaker 4>him another week.

1:37:14.610 --> 1:37:16.990
<v Speaker 3>I would understand if T is, say.

1:37:16.990 --> 1:37:23.450
<v Speaker 4>80%, let's say 75%, 80%. I would totally agree with

1:37:23.750 --> 1:37:26.490
<v Speaker 4>sitting him this week, adding the bye to it, and

1:37:26.530 --> 1:37:31.120
<v Speaker 4>getting him 100% before Baltimore rather than playing him 80%

1:37:31.120 --> 1:37:34.920
<v Speaker 4>this week, maybe risking a setback, or even if not,

1:37:35.280 --> 1:37:38.150
<v Speaker 4>I'd rather get it all taken care of at the

1:37:38.229 --> 1:37:40.710
<v Speaker 4>risk of this week to be prepared for end division

1:37:40.750 --> 1:37:41.410
<v Speaker 4>against the Ravens.

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<v Speaker 3>You've got to look at it like this.

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<v Speaker 6>There's not a more perfect scenario. You're playing one of

1:37:46.260 --> 1:37:48.960
<v Speaker 6>the worst teams. Now, again, that team certainly can win

1:37:49.000 --> 1:37:52.420
<v Speaker 6>the game. But all things being told, this is a

1:37:52.460 --> 1:37:54.880
<v Speaker 6>game that you should win, even without your best players.

1:37:54.939 --> 1:37:58.170
<v Speaker 6>So I think if he is at that kind of

1:37:58.229 --> 1:38:00.790
<v Speaker 6>teetering point, you take the chance. You get the two

1:38:00.830 --> 1:38:02.889
<v Speaker 6>weeks because you're not going to get another opportunity later

1:38:02.910 --> 1:38:03.370
<v Speaker 6>in the season.

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<v Speaker 4>Let me cover the AFC North quickly. Brought to you

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<v Speaker 4>The division as we sit here tonight, the Browns 3-1,

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<v Speaker 4>the Ravens 3-1.

1:38:15.180 --> 1:38:17.860
<v Speaker 5>Steelers 2-2, the Bengals are 2-2.

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<v Speaker 4>The Browns are at the Jets this weekend, where the

1:38:20.270 --> 1:38:24.189
<v Speaker 4>Jets are a 2.5-point favorite. That totals only 39.5 points

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<v Speaker 4>for the two teams combined. The Ravens are home to

1:38:27.810 --> 1:38:32.980
<v Speaker 4>the Falcons. The Falcons are a 3-point favorite. There's questions

1:38:33.060 --> 1:38:36.510
<v Speaker 4>surrounding Lamar Jackson and the ankle, and if he plays,

1:38:36.590 --> 1:38:40.350
<v Speaker 4>trending towards probably not playing. The Colts are at home

1:38:40.370 --> 1:38:43.019
<v Speaker 4>to the Pittsburgh Steelers at 2-2, and of course, the

1:38:43.060 --> 1:38:47.580
<v Speaker 4>Bengals in Miami. That is your trek around the AFC North.

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<v Speaker 4>When we come back, a little bit more on those

1:38:49.340 --> 1:38:53.140
<v Speaker 4>Miami Dolphins and some college football around the corner, plus

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<v Speaker 4>NFL officiating and Peter King on his concern going forward

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<v Speaker 4>with the NFL. Wow, that's a whole lot to get to.

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<v Speaker 3>He's Rocky.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm Lance.

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<v Speaker 4>at 9. Dan Carroll's in. He'll take you nine to midnight.

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<v Speaker 4>The opposition on Sunday, those Dolphins, 0-4. They gave the

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<v Speaker 4>Vikings some fits on Sunday, losing 15-10 in Minneapolis. Ollie Gordon,

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<v Speaker 4>their running back out of Oklahoma State, nine carries, 100

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<v Speaker 4>yards and a touchdown. They've got that second-round running linebacker

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<v Speaker 4>out of Texas Tech, Jacob Rodriguez. He had 18 tackles

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<v Speaker 4>last week, right? 18 tackles last week.

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<v Speaker 5>Unbelievable. And he is.

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<v Speaker 4>He has been their defensive star so far. We talked

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<v Speaker 4>about Malik Willis. They gave him a boatload of money,

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<v Speaker 4>which is interesting. Some teams that tear it down and

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<v Speaker 4>rebuild it will maybe get a bridge quarterback, a veteran,

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<v Speaker 4>maybe not invest a whole lot of money, have him

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<v Speaker 4>hold the ship until you get your quarterback. They gave

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<v Speaker 4>him three years.

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<v Speaker 3>$ 67.

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<v Speaker 4>5 million on the season. Malik Willis has one touchdown

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<v Speaker 4>and two interceptions. They parted ways with Tua in March,

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<v Speaker 4>leaving them, $ 99. 2 million in dead money.

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<v Speaker 5>They're splitting it over two seasons.

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<v Speaker 4>This year, $ 67. 4 million of his money in dead money

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<v Speaker 4>on the cap. Next year, it'll be about $ 32 million.

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<v Speaker 4>They cut Tyreek Hill. They cut Bradley Chubb. They traded

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<v Speaker 4>Jalen Waddell. They had invested the fifth pick overall in

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<v Speaker 4>two in 2020, and I remember that whole thing with

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<v Speaker 4>the Dolphins, and that's when the The conversation was tanking,

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<v Speaker 4>and it's tanking right in the NFL, and how do

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<v Speaker 4>you tank, and can you actually tank? And their tank

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<v Speaker 4>led to Tua, and it led to limited success, and

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<v Speaker 4>now we're back to 2026, and they're rebuilding again with

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<v Speaker 4>a new coach, a new general manager, and just they

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<v Speaker 4>went through a cycle of, well, I'm now flashing the

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<v Speaker 4>red cycle of a rebuild where you get very little

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<v Speaker 4>out of it and are back to rebuilding again.

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<v Speaker 3>And they're kind of where the Bengals were, whatever, sixth,

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<v Speaker 3>Seven years ago, right?

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<v Speaker 4>They get Joe Burra and the Dolphins get Tua Tagovola.

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<v Speaker 11>Right.

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<v Speaker 6>But maybe this year now they get, assuming the Bengals

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<v Speaker 6>do their part this weekend, maybe they get whatever, Arch Manning.

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<v Speaker 3>Or Carr or somebody.

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<v Speaker 4>Last night on the roundtable show on Bengals game plan,

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<v Speaker 4>down the dial on ESPN 1530, Dan Hoard and Wayne

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<v Speaker 4>Box-Miller talked with Isaiah Smalls, who covers the Dolphins for

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<v Speaker 4>the Miami Herald, Here's what he said about this rebuild

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<v Speaker 4>version of the Dolphins.

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<v Speaker 26>Obviously knew it was about time for it to start over,

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<v Speaker 26>but look, they bring in Jeff Hathaway, bring in John

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<v Speaker 26>Eric Sullivan, and what they have now is a team

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<v Speaker 26>that obviously very, very young, very, very inexperienced, but a

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<v Speaker 26>team that is growing week by week.

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<v Speaker 9>They play very hard.

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<v Speaker 26>They have a defense that's pretty solid against the run,

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<v Speaker 26>had some issues covering the tight end as of late week,

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<v Speaker 26>but still They play very hard, and offensively, they obviously

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<v Speaker 26>know Devon Aitken, but the offensive line is strong, and

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<v Speaker 26>they believe in Ollie Gordon and Jalen Wright, and they'll

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<v Speaker 26>still try to run the ball. But, again, it's a

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<v Speaker 26>team that is very young but very hungry and still

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<v Speaker 26>searching for that first win, and I guess they're hoping

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<v Speaker 26>it'll be Sunday against the Bengals.

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<v Speaker 5>They are certainly offensively challenged.

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<v Speaker 4>They have not scored more than 13 points in a game,

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<v Speaker 4>which is hard to believe in today's NFL.

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<v Speaker 5>They've scored 13. 13, 10, 10.

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<v Speaker 4>Isaiah said they're young like three times during that sound bite.

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<v Speaker 4>I guess, Rock, on one hand, I was going to

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<v Speaker 4>ask about the difficulties of being 0-4 on a rebuilding team,

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<v Speaker 4>but on the other hand, if you're a young team,

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<v Speaker 4>young player, it's an opportunity. I mean, if you've torn

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<v Speaker 4>it down and rebuilt it and you're on this team,

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<v Speaker 4>you have like a clean slate to prove that that

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<v Speaker 4>you deserve opportunities and earn playing time in your career

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<v Speaker 4>in the NFL on a team that record-wise isn't much,

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<v Speaker 4>but the opportunity is right before your very eyes.

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<v Speaker 6>Well, on that team, you know that every single player

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<v Speaker 6>is being evaluated. It's not like, okay, we like these

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<v Speaker 6>15 guys. No, every single player is being evaluated. So, yeah,

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<v Speaker 6>there's an opportunity for you.

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<v Speaker 3>And guess what?

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<v Speaker 6>You probably wouldn't get that opportunity if you're on the

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<v Speaker 6>Chiefs or whatever, any of these good teams.

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<v Speaker 7>Right.

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<v Speaker 6>A chance to show that you belong and then they

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<v Speaker 6>get some drafts together and maybe you're.

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<v Speaker 3>Part of the rebuild.

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<v Speaker 4>Here's Isaiah Smalls on their quarterback situation and the play

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<v Speaker 4>of Malik Willis.

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<v Speaker 3>Take a listen.

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<v Speaker 26>Malik Willis has rare arm talent and I think that

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<v Speaker 26>is something that really intrigued this new regime in bringing

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<v Speaker 26>him in. The issue that I've found with Malik so

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<v Speaker 26>far is that he sometimes needs to take the easier throw.

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<v Speaker 26>He's a guy that kind of wants the big money

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<v Speaker 26>and he'll go long um where sometimes look man take

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<v Speaker 26>the check down and let the guy um run for

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<v Speaker 26>the first down i think that's been the biggest issue

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<v Speaker 26>but look the the talent is there he's a guy

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<v Speaker 26>that can move very well in the pocket can maneuver

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<v Speaker 26>definitely can use his legs um great arm strength but

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<v Speaker 26>i think sometimes the biggest issue that i've seen is

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<v Speaker 26>he needs to take the check down.

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<v Speaker 4>Malik Willis, scouting report provided by Isaiah Smalls. They've been

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<v Speaker 4>woeful on third down this year, one of the worst

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<v Speaker 4>in the league. I think it's around 35% on third down,

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<v Speaker 4>and Isaiah addressed that issue with his offense.

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<v Speaker 3>Take a listen.

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<v Speaker 26>Yeah, the third down has been really a pain in

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<v Speaker 26>the butt for the Dolphins all year. And to me,

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<v Speaker 26>it just comes down to inexperience, right? You have a

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<v Speaker 26>very young wide receiver core. You have two to three

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<v Speaker 26>rookies out there on the field on a day-to-day basis,

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<v Speaker 26>whether it's receivers not necessarily running the right routes or

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<v Speaker 26>running it with poor timing with the quarterback like i

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<v Speaker 26>think that's the been the biggest issue for me that

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<v Speaker 26>i've seen on third down and obviously there's been a

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<v Speaker 26>little bit of issue on that right side with the

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<v Speaker 26>tackle austin jackson and you know he's getting up there

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<v Speaker 26>in age and it just hasn't looked super positive so

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<v Speaker 26>they also have these third and eight third and sevens

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<v Speaker 26>and when you have those third and longs it's a

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<v Speaker 26>it's a it's a little bit difficult to be able

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<v Speaker 26>to convert and that's when you need you know a go-to.

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<v Speaker 9>Guy at the receiving position and i think they're still

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<v Speaker 9>searching for.

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<v Speaker 4>That Dolphins also, like the Bengals, have trouble covering the

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<v Speaker 4>tight end.

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<v Speaker 3>Last weekend, T.J.

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<v Speaker 4>Hawkinson of the Vikings had 13 catches on 13 targets

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<v Speaker 4>for 119 yards.

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<v Speaker 5>Against the Dolphins' defense.

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<v Speaker 4>But again, the Vikings scored just 15 but won the

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<v Speaker 4>game 15-10, the final score. I did not know, you

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<v Speaker 4>may be aware of this during the break, there is

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<v Speaker 4>a local connection to the Miami Dolphins.

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<v Speaker 3>Do tell.

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<v Speaker 6>Yes, Sean Duggan, who is a former linebacker at St.

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<v Speaker 6>Xavier High School, played linebacker at Boston College, has worked

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<v Speaker 6>his way up through the coaching ranks. I mean, he

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<v Speaker 6>was at Hawaii for a couple years, and he's the

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<v Speaker 6>defensive coordinator for the Miami Dolphins.

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<v Speaker 11>Wow.

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<v Speaker 3>Which is wild. I mean, I used to train him.

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<v Speaker 8>Really?

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<v Speaker 6>I got a video somewhere of me, him, and Luke

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<v Speaker 6>Keekly training, which is pretty cool.

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<v Speaker 3>Holy cow. Yeah, so a great guy.

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<v Speaker 6>Sean's funny because He's not from California, but he's kind

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<v Speaker 6>of got this, like, California kind of cool, like, laid-back talk.

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<v Speaker 3>But he's super, super smart, right? Obviously, if you're a

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<v Speaker 3>defensive coordinator.

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<v Speaker 6>But just, you know, you can tell him talking with him.

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<v Speaker 3>Knows the game really well. And a young guy. And,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, couldn't be happier for him.

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<v Speaker 4>I was speaking of coaching and saying X guys. I

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<v Speaker 4>was struck by the conversation. you had with Mo earlier

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<v Speaker 4>this week for the segment you guys do, where I

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<v Speaker 4>sense the itch, the scratching of the itch might eventually

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<v Speaker 4>be scratched in terms of you getting into coaching on

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<v Speaker 4>some level higher than your current level. Is that fair

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<v Speaker 4>to say? I wouldn't leave it out of the possibility.

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<v Speaker 4>And not the NFL or college ranks, but perhaps as

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<v Speaker 4>a high school football coach. Yeah, I can see that.

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<v Speaker 3>I love it.

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<v Speaker 6>It's the first thing I think about when I wake up,

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<v Speaker 6>and the last thing I think about when I go

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<v Speaker 6>to bed is our 17th grade St.

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<v Speaker 3>James varsity football team.

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<v Speaker 4>And I fully understand, not to go deep into it

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<v Speaker 4>because we don't have a whole lot of time, but

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<v Speaker 4>in talking with Mo, you indicated earlier in your career–

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<v Speaker 4>that it's a very transient business, and that was not.

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<v Speaker 3>Going to work.

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<v Speaker 6>For me, in my last couple years in the league,

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<v Speaker 6>I was bouncing around a little bit, and I was

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<v Speaker 6>just like, God, I would.

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<v Speaker 3>Love to get back to Cincinnati, start a family.

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<v Speaker 6>I was 30 years old kind of thing, and coaching

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<v Speaker 6>and stability and being rooted in one place for a while,

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<v Speaker 6>that doesn't happen. You've to be willing to make that sacrifice.

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<v Speaker 6>At that time, I was not. But, yeah, maybe at

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<v Speaker 6>some point down the future, I would love to.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know how guys do it because I'll look

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<v Speaker 4>week to week, whether it's a college game I'm looking

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<v Speaker 4>up game notes on, and I'll look at a coach

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<v Speaker 4>or an assistant, and I'll look at their resume and,

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<v Speaker 4>And the number of different places, it may be 10

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<v Speaker 4>jobs in 12 years.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know how you do it.

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<v Speaker 5>Forget about life, having a family and kids.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, the constant jumping and moving and finding a

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<v Speaker 4>place to live and the uncertainty of if you're going

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<v Speaker 4>to have... If you're going to be sticking around after this,

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<v Speaker 4>it's incredible.

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<v Speaker 6>And you've got to do it because at some point

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<v Speaker 6>you've got to hit your wagon to the next young

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<v Speaker 6>up-and-coming coach.

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<v Speaker 3>Yep. You know, like Will Stein, right, at Kentucky.

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<v Speaker 6>You know, those coaches along the way, you go, you

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<v Speaker 6>know what, if that guy gets a job– I've got

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<v Speaker 6>to go because he's got it, right? Versus, you know,

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<v Speaker 6>you've got to make sure you follow the right guy

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<v Speaker 6>and you make the right decision because if you follow

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<v Speaker 6>the wrong guy, then you get kind of stuck.

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<v Speaker 3>But, yeah, it's so much of what you.

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<v Speaker 6>want to do is more about what you have to

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<v Speaker 6>do if you want to make a career of it,

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<v Speaker 6>and that's the sacrifice they make.

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<v Speaker 4>When we come back, let's talk about officiating. What the

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<v Speaker 4>heck is going on with all the flags in the NFL? Plus,

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<v Speaker 4>I had Peter King on last night, who's going to

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<v Speaker 4>be in town on Saturday night, and I asked him

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<v Speaker 4>for all he's seen in 40 years of covering the NFL,

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<v Speaker 4>and all he's seen evolve in the game, what he's

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<v Speaker 4>worried about in the future of the game.

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<v Speaker 5>You'll hear his response to that.

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<v Speaker 3>He's Rocky. I'm Lance.

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<v Speaker 3>He's Rocky. I'm Lance.

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<v Speaker 4>All right, we have two topics to get to. I'll

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<v Speaker 4>make a dealer's choice for you. Which would you like

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<v Speaker 4>to do first? We can do NFL officiating or we

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<v Speaker 4>can do Peter King's concerns for the NFL going forward.

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<v Speaker 3>We'll do both. Which one would you like to do first?

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<v Speaker 3>Let's do officiating first.

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<v Speaker 11>All right.

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<v Speaker 4>Let's do officiating first. Week four, or through the first

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<v Speaker 4>four weeks of the season, Rock, according to ESPN, there

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<v Speaker 4>have been 963 penalties accepted. That is the most the

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<v Speaker 4>NFL has seen in the first four weeks of the

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<v Speaker 4>season since 1978. Sunday, there was an average of 17

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<v Speaker 4>penalties per game, the most in any NFL week since 2015.

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<v Speaker 4>There have been, this season, 17 touchdowns nullified by penalties.

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<v Speaker 3>Now let me give you a little context.

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<v Speaker 4>You're thinking 17, that sounds like a lot. Give me

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<v Speaker 4>a comparison here. Last year, through the first four weeks,

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<v Speaker 4>there were four touchdowns called back. The year before, five

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<v Speaker 4>touchdowns called back. 17 this year. I said it Monday night.

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<v Speaker 4>Watching the Bengals on Sunday was difficult to do because

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<v Speaker 4>it was flag after flag after flag. I think there

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<v Speaker 4>were 24 total for 235 yards.

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<v Speaker 5>It drives you crazy.

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<v Speaker 3>What is going on?

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<v Speaker 6>First of all, people only really hate flags when it

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<v Speaker 6>goes against their team.

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<v Speaker 3>They like it when they help their team.

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<v Speaker 6>But with that said, as someone who works in TV

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<v Speaker 6>and does games every week, it's a killer. You get

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<v Speaker 6>the sense because, you know, and me and my broadcast partner,

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<v Speaker 6>Clay Mavrick, we always talk about it, too. It's just like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 6>disrupts the flow of the game. And today, there's so

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<v Speaker 6>many options. People's attention spans are so small. They've never

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<v Speaker 6>been shorter, okay? So you get all these stoppages. People

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<v Speaker 6>can go to the next game or go open their

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<v Speaker 6>phone or go open their Netflix and go watch a movie.

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<v Speaker 3>I feel that.

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<v Speaker 6>That conversation should be had to the referees. Like, look, guys,

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<v Speaker 6>we want to call a tight game. We don't want

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<v Speaker 6>to let things go. But we live in a world

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<v Speaker 6>where people will tune out very, very.

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<v Speaker 3>Quickly, and we've got to have a constant... flow of

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<v Speaker 3>the game.

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<v Speaker 6>I mean, I think soccer is boring as hell, but

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<v Speaker 6>usually there's like a flow, more of a flow and

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<v Speaker 6>less stoppages of it, which I find good if it's

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<v Speaker 6>more of you know, to today's model of a mindset

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<v Speaker 6>of an average viewer.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I think everybody who watches wants the obvious and

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<v Speaker 4>egregious call.

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<v Speaker 3>Like, everybody points or gets up out of their seat.

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<v Speaker 4>But I think there's so many things that, in the

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<v Speaker 4>old adages, what you could call a hold on every

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<v Speaker 4>play of the game. To me, I want it to

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<v Speaker 4>be obvious, egregious, and I want some consistency. Because the

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<v Speaker 4>complaint on Sunday was they had called the game one way,

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<v Speaker 4>close through three quarters into the fourth quarter. It was like,

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<v Speaker 4>do whatever you guys want. And I think everybody then

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<v Speaker 4>throws up their hands like, well, what are we doing here?

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<v Speaker 11>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 6>Well, and then I feel like there's a flag call

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<v Speaker 6>that's kind of minor here. And then, I believe, yeah,

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<v Speaker 6>then they go with the make-up call. Like, okay, well,

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<v Speaker 6>I kind of called that one kind of tight. Well,

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<v Speaker 6>I better call another one tight. It's human nature. But, yeah,

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<v Speaker 6>you've got to realize that, you know, we want a

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<v Speaker 6>flow of the game going on right now. I mean,

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<v Speaker 6>our game on Tuesday, it took three hours and 45 minutes.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a long, long game.

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<v Speaker 11>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>And it was doing pretty good. And then the fourth quarter,

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<v Speaker 3>it was just flag and penalty and penalty and penalty.

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<v Speaker 5>Now, think about that, what you just said.

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<v Speaker 4>Obviously, the complaint for years in baseball was the games

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<v Speaker 4>were too long, and they batted a pitch clock. The

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<v Speaker 4>average length of a game this year in Major League

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<v Speaker 4>Baseball was two hours and 42 minutes. You did a

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<v Speaker 4>football game that was an hour and three minutes longer

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<v Speaker 4>than the average baseball game.

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<v Speaker 3>Holy cow. A long time.

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<v Speaker 4>Also, in this note, this was from Warren Sharp, Sharp

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<v Speaker 4>Football Analysis, holding calls are being called at the highest

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<v Speaker 4>rate since 2019.

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<v Speaker 6>Now, people would point to that and say, well, it's

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<v Speaker 6>because offensive linemen aren't developed as well. They're not as

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<v Speaker 6>technical now, and they're sloppier than they used to be.

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<v Speaker 3>Yep. So that's, you know.

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<v Speaker 4>Most penalties on third and fourth down in the second

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<v Speaker 4>half since 2000.

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<v Speaker 5>So the most in 26 years being called in.

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<v Speaker 4>On third or fourth down in the second half of

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<v Speaker 4>games for whatever reason. Red zone penalties are up 30%,

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<v Speaker 4>costing what is a record pace right now of about

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<v Speaker 4>five yards per team per game. I mean, red zone opportunities,

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<v Speaker 4>and then you're looking at scoring. Red zone holding up 38%.

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<v Speaker 4>17 touchdowns. I mean, you talk about dragging down what

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<v Speaker 4>people see.

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<v Speaker 3>People want to see points scored.

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<v Speaker 4>So you tag team them with flag after flag after

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<v Speaker 4>flag and fewer points being scored.

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<v Speaker 3>That doesn't sound like a recipe for success for the NFL.

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<v Speaker 3>Not at all. I just feel like, yeah, it's got

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<v Speaker 3>to be changed. You know, not say, hey.

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<v Speaker 6>Drastically do it but guys look if grandma you know

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<v Speaker 6>can't see it from the the third row here yes

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<v Speaker 6>let's not call.

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<v Speaker 4>It you and i think it would be fair and

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<v Speaker 4>this has been common over the years there's a lot

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<v Speaker 4>of times you know i think you've talked about this

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<v Speaker 4>the point of emphasis every year begins it seems with

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<v Speaker 4>a point of emphasis and and players and coaches will be,

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<v Speaker 4>we're going to more closely, and we're going to enforce these,

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<v Speaker 4>and the idea being, you're going to get a lot

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<v Speaker 4>of these early, you've got to adjust to it, but

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<v Speaker 4>even taking into account, we're four weeks in, even four

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<v Speaker 4>weeks in, these are record number rates, so we're past

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<v Speaker 4>that breaking in period of, maybe a point of emphasis

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<v Speaker 4>being whatever area of the game and you guys have

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<v Speaker 4>to adjust. Well, four weeks in, we're still at a

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<v Speaker 4>record-setting pace with the number of penalties. It's just a

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<v Speaker 4>bad trend. All right, Peter King joined me last night

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<v Speaker 4>on Sports Talk. Longtime NFL writer for decades, the Monday

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<v Speaker 4>morning quarterback, a staple of reading for decades in Sports Illustrated.

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<v Speaker 4>He is in town on Saturday night at Joseph Beth's.

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<v Speaker 4>His new book is The Game, his tales of 40

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<v Speaker 4>years of covering the NFL. He'll sign his book. He's

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<v Speaker 4>there with Paul Dougherty. Doc is going to be there

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<v Speaker 4>on Saturday night, Joseph Beth. Fran and his lovely wife

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<v Speaker 4>Phyllis are going to be on hand to get that book.

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<v Speaker 4>It's a tremendous read. Among the many things we discussed

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<v Speaker 4>last night on Sports Talk, I asked him, having seen

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<v Speaker 4>what you've seen, and he talked about how In the 80s,

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<v Speaker 4>there was one event for the NFL offseason.

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<v Speaker 3>It was really two.

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<v Speaker 4>It was the draft and the combine. And now it's 365, obviously.

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<v Speaker 4>It's NFL, NFL, every day. There's something going on in

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<v Speaker 4>the cycle. But I ask him, based on how you've

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<v Speaker 4>seen the game evolve, if you look into the future,

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<v Speaker 4>what worries you about the NFL? going forward listen to

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<v Speaker 4>what he.

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<v Speaker 27>Said this insatiable desire to play more games the nfl

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<v Speaker 27>should not be playing any more games shouldn't have gone

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<v Speaker 27>to 17 games per team it should 16 was a

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<v Speaker 27>number wonderful They should have kept it just like that,

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<v Speaker 27>but they went to 17, and now they want to

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<v Speaker 27>go to 18. Every time they increase the schedule in

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<v Speaker 27>the league by one game per team per year, you add,

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<v Speaker 27>for the starting players in the league, 62 to 65

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<v Speaker 27>extra plays per game. That's 62 to 65 potential collisions

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<v Speaker 27>and head hits. And it just adds to the head

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<v Speaker 27>trauma of these guys who are already getting enough head trauma.

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<v Speaker 27>And so that I am dead set against adding more

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<v Speaker 27>games to the schedule. In fact, I think they should

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<v Speaker 27>subtract one and play 16. Now, there's not much chance

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<v Speaker 27>of that happening, let's just say.

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<v Speaker 4>He talked about the insatiable appetite for more football. I

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<v Speaker 4>think the counter to that is the NFL is special, right?

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<v Speaker 4>If you keep giving it to people multiple nights a week,

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<v Speaker 4>it decreases. It all kind of runs together, and it's

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<v Speaker 4>not as special anymore.

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<v Speaker 3>Right. Look at now.

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<v Speaker 6>There's, what, three college games on and an NFL game.

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<v Speaker 6>And so it kind of goes against.

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<v Speaker 3>the mindset of, okay, I want this, right?

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<v Speaker 6>But if you get ice cream every night for dinner,

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<v Speaker 6>at some point you're like, it's not a treat that

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<v Speaker 6>I get ice cream.

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<v Speaker 3>When it was like, oh my God, there's one game

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<v Speaker 3>on Monday night.

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<v Speaker 6>And I've got to write another six days to see

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<v Speaker 6>any NFL games. Sometimes giving us what we want isn't

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<v Speaker 6>necessarily good for us.

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<v Speaker 4>And he's right too about the.

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<v Speaker 3>Injury stuff too.

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<v Speaker 6>The one side of the mouth the NFL talks about

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<v Speaker 6>injuries and head trauma and how concerned they are. But

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<v Speaker 6>then we're going to add another game, a 17th game,

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<v Speaker 6>and then possibly an 18th game. And we're going to

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<v Speaker 6>have teams every week getting on planes and flying however

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<v Speaker 6>many miles and time zones over to other countries.

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<v Speaker 3>It doesn't make sense.

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<v Speaker 6>We talk about baseball needing to decrease the amount of games.

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<v Speaker 6>And now we're talking about the NFL wants to increase it. No,

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<v Speaker 6>there's You want the games.

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<v Speaker 3>To have meaning. And, again, I felt the same way.

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<v Speaker 6>16 was like, that's a lot of games, a lot

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<v Speaker 6>of games, but enough to where each one matters, like really,

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<v Speaker 6>really matters, both from a team standpoint and your record

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<v Speaker 6>and all that, but also from a viewer standpoint of, okay,

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<v Speaker 6>I can't wait for that game this weekend. If there's

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<v Speaker 6>18 games, it's like, well, if I miss this one,

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<v Speaker 6>I'll catch the next one.

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<v Speaker 3>And you know 18's coming.

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<v Speaker 4>And when 18 gets here, it'll be at the expense of,

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<v Speaker 4>in all likelihood, a preseason game, so you're down to

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<v Speaker 4>two preseason games, and we've talked about how you don't really,

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<v Speaker 4>because of that, you're not really prepared to start the season,

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<v Speaker 4>which means the level of play isn't where it.

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<v Speaker 11>Needs to be.

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<v Speaker 3>And more penalties, right? More penalties than everything we're talking about.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I mean, again, when I played starters played in

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<v Speaker 6>the preseason, and that way, come week one, you were

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<v Speaker 6>ready to go. You were ready to go, and I

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<v Speaker 6>felt the product was pretty clean. It's sloppy as hell

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<v Speaker 6>now from a gameplay standpoint and execution, penalties, all of

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<v Speaker 6>that get added into it.

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<v Speaker 4>By the way, one quick Peter King story, just because

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<v Speaker 4>I love the story, and it's how times have changed

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<v Speaker 4>in so many different ways. When he came to Cincinnati

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<v Speaker 4>in 1980 and was working for the Acquire, 1980 to 85,

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<v Speaker 4>he's 23 years old, and he's covering the Bengals and

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<v Speaker 4>Sam Weish and When the Bengals drafted Boomer in 1984,

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<v Speaker 4>they also drafted Pete Koch in the same draft, and

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<v Speaker 4>Peter King, 23, 24 years old, tells to the Bengals,

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<v Speaker 4>he says to the Bengals officials, hey, when is their

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<v Speaker 4>flight coming in? Because they'd been drafted, they were coming

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<v Speaker 4>into town to meet with the Bengals, and he said,

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<v Speaker 4>when is the flight coming in? And the Bengals told him,

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<v Speaker 4>and Peter King goes to the airport on his own,

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<v Speaker 4>and in those days you could go to the gates,

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<v Speaker 4>and he basically more or less holds up a sign,

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<v Speaker 4>and he tells Peter, Pete Koch, and Boomer Esiason that

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<v Speaker 4>he's there to pick him up.

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<v Speaker 3>And he's not representing the Bengals, obviously. He's working for

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<v Speaker 3>the Enquirer.

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<v Speaker 4>But he picked him up at the airport, put him

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<v Speaker 4>in his car, and he got an interview out of it.

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<v Speaker 4>But he's driving them back, and Boomer's reaction was, they're

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<v Speaker 4>sending media guys to pick us up at the airport?

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<v Speaker 3>What a great story.

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<v Speaker 4>Creative he was, so I'm going to talk with two

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<v Speaker 4>of the Bengals draft picks because I'm going to pick

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<v Speaker 4>him up at the airport.

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<v Speaker 3>You've got to find any little advantage in the end

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<v Speaker 3>you have. Exactly.

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<v Speaker 4>All right, we'll head down the stretch, put the wraps

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<v Speaker 4>on it. We'll travel Rocky's Road as we close it

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<v Speaker 4>out on the Roundtable Show presented by Cincinnati Tax Resolution.

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<v Speaker 4>Powered by Tope Sheldon from Longnecks and Wilder on 700 WLW.

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<v Speaker 4>Rocky's Road, and you've had an opportunity to do some

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<v Speaker 4>scouting because we have two of the games on. It

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<v Speaker 4>involves the two that are going head-to-head for you on

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<v Speaker 4>Tuesday night.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, Wednesday night I have Western Kentucky at Sam Houston,

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<v Speaker 6>Wednesday night ESPN2. These midweek games are unique, and I

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<v Speaker 6>love it because, you know, look, this isn't Alabama-Georgia, right,

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<v Speaker 6>but You're getting standalone games a month or on Tuesday.

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<v Speaker 6>We were the only game that was on. And that

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<v Speaker 6>thing did like a million in terms of viewership. So

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<v Speaker 6>that's always cool when you can kind of get a

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<v Speaker 6>marquee game.

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<v Speaker 3>A lot of people watch, yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>We were talking about this earlier, and I don't think

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<v Speaker 4>we have time to do a full segment on it,

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<v Speaker 4>but I wanted to mention maybe some more next week.

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<v Speaker 4>I asked you if you had seen the new Northwestern

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<v Speaker 4>football stadium, Ryan Field. They unveiled it, played their first

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<v Speaker 4>game last Friday night against Penn State. $ 875 million stadium.

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<v Speaker 4>It's spectacular. It's NFL-like. It's like a mini version of

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<v Speaker 4>Jerry World, the Dallas Cowboys stadium. The locker rooms indoor

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<v Speaker 4>are just absolutely mind-boggling. There's 35,000 seats.

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<v Speaker 23>Perfect.

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<v Speaker 4>And we both said... I think the initial reaction by

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<v Speaker 4>everybody was, wow, you spent $ 875 million on a new

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<v Speaker 4>football stadium for Northwestern.

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<v Speaker 3>Why did you only make.

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<v Speaker 5>It $ 35, 000?

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<v Speaker 4>That's the trend. More teams are going that way, and

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<v Speaker 4>you understand why.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, because.

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<v Speaker 6>Most people are watching these games on television, and when

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<v Speaker 6>you tune into a TV broadcast and the director or

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<v Speaker 6>the producer does a span shot of the crowd, and.

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<v Speaker 3>It's packed, you're like, man, this is cool. This must

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<v Speaker 3>be something I have to see.

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<v Speaker 6>And when it's dead empty, you're like, this doesn't seem

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<v Speaker 6>like a very big deal. But, yeah, when the place

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<v Speaker 6>is packed, you could not even know anything about the teams.

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<v Speaker 6>But you're like, I'm going to tune in and watch

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<v Speaker 6>that thing. And so, yeah, if I were these schools,

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<v Speaker 6>I would shrink the size of the state. Look, unless

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<v Speaker 6>you're Texas and Michigan and Ohio State and some of

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<v Speaker 6>these schools, you don't need 80, 100,000 seats because most

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<v Speaker 6>of the time– especially with how good TV is now

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<v Speaker 6>and how clear the picture is, people are going to

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<v Speaker 6>stay home and watch these games because they have the

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<v Speaker 6>option to. So, yeah, smaller, better, create a must-see television experience.

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<v Speaker 4>$ 875 million funded by the Ryan family, Ryan Field, the

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<v Speaker 4>family and other boosters and benefactors privately funded, and it is,

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<v Speaker 4>I hope, if you get a chance to see it,

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<v Speaker 4>let's talk about it next week because it is.

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<v Speaker 6>And it's amazing, too, in the world of NIL because

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<v Speaker 6>schools are less and less, or more, I should say,

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<v Speaker 6>more reluctant to spend on facilities and things, which used

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<v Speaker 6>to be the big draw, but now, okay, that's a

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<v Speaker 6>bunch of millions you're putting into a stadium. Some coach

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<v Speaker 6>would say, can you leave a few million so we

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<v Speaker 6>can buy some good players?

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<v Speaker 4>That's funny you say that because that's been said of UC,

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<v Speaker 4>and their practice facility is incredible, and yet the whole

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<v Speaker 4>conversation of When you're recruiting the kid, is he saying,

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<v Speaker 4>what's your weight room and everything else look like? Or

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<v Speaker 4>is he saying, what's the check going to, how many dollars?

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<v Speaker 4>Because it used to be, like, you.

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<v Speaker 6>Know, eight plus years ago, it was, what do the

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<v Speaker 6>facilities look like? You know, and then Clemson was building

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<v Speaker 6>the fields with the, you know, the barbecue pits and

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<v Speaker 6>the wiffle ball fields and all that. Honestly, because that

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<v Speaker 6>was the thing. Now the kids, I always say, The

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<v Speaker 6>transition from when I played to now, when I played,

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<v Speaker 6>it was, you know, a school pump their tradition, right? And,

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<v Speaker 6>you know, I fell for Newt Rockne and the Four

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<v Speaker 6>Horsemen and all that.

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<v Speaker 3>Sort of stuff.

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<v Speaker 6>And then transitioned into, okay, what do the facilities look like?

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<v Speaker 6>Now it is, how much money are you going to

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<v Speaker 6>pay me?

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<v Speaker 3>I don't care about it.

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, good.

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<v Speaker 3>Tell me.

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<v Speaker 4>Great.

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<v Speaker 3>You got a new weight room.

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<v Speaker 11>Cool.

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<v Speaker 3>How much money are you going to pay me?

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<v Speaker 5>Which, for the.

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<v Speaker 4>The assistant who was like your recruiting guy, the guy

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<v Speaker 4>who had the ins in cities and the high school

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<v Speaker 4>coaches and everything else, that role is kind of like

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<v Speaker 4>it's not what it once was. The value that that

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<v Speaker 4>assistant might bring to your team a decade ago isn't

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<v Speaker 4>nearly what it is. is because it's a transactional thing.

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<v Speaker 6>The thing about Terry Combs, that guy walks in your house, man,

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<v Speaker 6>you're going to that school. But back in the days

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<v Speaker 6>when it was like the program and being all in

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<v Speaker 6>for this school and this is why you need to

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<v Speaker 6>come here.

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<v Speaker 3>And now, again, they're like, great, but what's the number?

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<v Speaker 5>Show me the money.

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<v Speaker 6>And it's frustrating because I've talked to coaches about it

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<v Speaker 6>because they're like, Recruiting is already a grind. It's not

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<v Speaker 6>the funnest thing in the world. But we can go

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<v Speaker 6>into a house and say, man, look what we're doing. Look,

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<v Speaker 6>we've upgraded this and upgraded that and that sort of thing.

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<v Speaker 6>And now they don't get to even enjoy that little

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<v Speaker 6>sliver of it.

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<v Speaker 3>We are done. You know what I'm doing tomorrow? I'm

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<v Speaker 3>going to the zoo. The Cincinnati Zoo.

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<v Speaker 4>I've been to the zoo for a while. I'm off tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 4>And Kelly and I are going to the zoo. I

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<v Speaker 4>haven't been to the zoo in ages, and I don't

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<v Speaker 4>know why, but I said, I want to go to

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<v Speaker 4>the zoo. And it's going to be a gorgeous day,

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<v Speaker 4>so I'm going to the zoo.

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<v Speaker 6>I don't think I've ever been to the zoo when

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<v Speaker 6>it wasn't like 175 degrees. So good for you to

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<v Speaker 6>pick in the right time of year, in my opinion,

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<v Speaker 6>to go to the zoo. What animal do you want to,

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<v Speaker 6>are you really looking to get a gander at?

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<v Speaker 3>Snakes.

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<v Speaker 7>Really?

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<v Speaker 3>A reptile house.

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<v Speaker 5>A big giant, yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Next week, I'm going to do the show with a big, like,

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<v Speaker 3>boa constrictor.

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<v Speaker 6>Well, you'll be doing the show solo because I don't

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<v Speaker 6>do that, okay?

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<v Speaker 3>I don't care about a.

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<v Speaker 6>crappy environment, but I'm not doing it next to a snake.

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<v Speaker 4>Thanks to Russ Jackson for producing tonight. Thanks to Mike

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<v Speaker 4>Mills for engineering tonight. Have a great weekend, everybody. Stick

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<v Speaker 4>to next. This has been the Roundtable Show presented by

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<v Speaker 25>Expecting a big boost for the local economy with the

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<v Speaker 25>9 o'clock report. I'm Sean Gallagher.

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<v Speaker 3>Breaking now.

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<v Speaker 25>Blake, the Immersive Light and Art Festival returning to downtown

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<v Speaker 25>Cincinnati and Covington tonight. And we'll be running nightly now

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<v Speaker 25>through Sunday from 7 to 11 p.m.

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<v Speaker 28>We know it'll be huge crowds. We know it has

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<v Speaker 28>an enormous economic impact. I was talking to an owner

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<v Speaker 28>of a guy who owns a number of bars downtown,

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<v Speaker 28>all that which you would know. And he said that

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<v Speaker 28>in some of their places, they'll do double the business

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<v Speaker 28>that they usually.

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<v Speaker 9>Do in a weekend.

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<v Speaker 25>Brendan Cole, who heads the Cincinnati Regional Chamber, has more

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<v Speaker 25>than 2 million people experience Blink the last time it

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<v Speaker 25>was held in 2024. 80 different art installations spanning from

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<v Speaker 25>Finley Market across the Roving Suspension Bridge into Covington has organizers.