WEBVTT - 12-19-25 Willie with Leland Vittert

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<v Speaker 1>Billy Cunningham, the Great America. Welcome this Friday afternoon in

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<v Speaker 1>the tri State fifty thousand watch but sounded like a million.

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<v Speaker 1>And I have some announcement to make later on about

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<v Speaker 1>yours truly, and we'll deal with that later. But first

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<v Speaker 1>of all, we have many fallouts from the last few

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<v Speaker 1>days about what happening in Providence and what happened in Massachusetts, mit, etc.

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<v Speaker 1>Plus we have sometime around three o'clock today supposedly the

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<v Speaker 1>Epstein files are going to be released, at least those

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<v Speaker 1>not redacted. We've got that going on, and more so,

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<v Speaker 1>joining you nine now is the great Leland Vinter. The

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<v Speaker 1>main character, the main host on News Nation is Leland Vitter.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm promoting you and Leland welcome again to the Bill

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<v Speaker 1>Cunningham Show. And I like to think this is a

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<v Speaker 1>great year for Leland Vitter. Number one, you have a

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<v Speaker 1>new bride and number two a best selling book. So

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<v Speaker 1>what do you think about this year from a personal perspective?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I am blessed and as you, as you pointed out,

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<v Speaker 2>got married, have a new nephew, my parents' first grandchild

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<v Speaker 2>came and Rachel somehow had been completely flummixed and totally

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<v Speaker 2>disregarded both her better judgment and everyone's advice and actually

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<v Speaker 2>walked down the aisle in June. And then, as you noted,

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<v Speaker 2>Born Lucky, my book about growing up with autism and

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<v Speaker 2>my dad's adapting me to the world, has has done well.

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<v Speaker 2>I think the best part of Born Lucky, really, and

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<v Speaker 2>I think the part of it this year that's been

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<v Speaker 2>the best is helping so many people. You know, we

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<v Speaker 2>say Born Lucky is hope for every parent of a

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<v Speaker 2>kid having a hard time, and that has proven out

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<v Speaker 2>by the hundreds of letters that I have gotten from

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<v Speaker 2>families not just of kids with autism, but ADHD, anxiety,

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<v Speaker 2>difficulties with bullying, all sorts of different things who said

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<v Speaker 2>that Born Lucky really gives them this real sense of hope.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think it's why it's taken off, why it's

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<v Speaker 2>been such a huge Christmas gift, is because there's so

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<v Speaker 2>many families who are looking to realize that they're they're

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<v Speaker 2>not alone, and that is the Born Lucky story.

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<v Speaker 1>Something just clicked in my mind, which occurs now and then,

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<v Speaker 1>is that having autism and you still have it and

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<v Speaker 1>uh being so successful. I'm thinking about Minneapolis, Minnesota and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm thinking about a program there made up by Tim

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<v Speaker 1>Waltz and others to assist specifically Somali kids with autism,

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<v Speaker 1>which is needed, and then they have that program looted

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<v Speaker 1>by criminals who are buying villas in Spain. Fancy joins

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<v Speaker 1>fancy food to loot the money intended for kids with autism.

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<v Speaker 1>How did that strike your heart?

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<v Speaker 2>Offensive but unsurprising. And the therapy that was used in

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<v Speaker 2>the fraud right was called Aba therapy is highly effective

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<v Speaker 2>and it's by far the best thing that can happen

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<v Speaker 2>for kids in The idea that the Somali community figured

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<v Speaker 2>out basically how to fake a massive number of autism

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<v Speaker 2>diagnoses and then not give the services obviously to the

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<v Speaker 2>kids who had had fake diagnoses, but also to the

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<v Speaker 2>kids who had real diagnosises is just offensive at so

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<v Speaker 2>many levels. I think it's unsurprising, but it goes to

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<v Speaker 2>the level of suicidal empathy that I think we are

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<v Speaker 2>seeing as it relates, especially in Minnesota, but also around

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<v Speaker 2>the rest of America. When it comes to the broader

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<v Speaker 2>threat of radical Islam or of just Islam itself into

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<v Speaker 2>the United States. I think we're going to look forward

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<v Speaker 2>to twenty twenty six. One of the big stories and

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<v Speaker 2>through lines is going to be the rise of the

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<v Speaker 2>threat of jihad in America and the rise of the

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<v Speaker 2>incompatibility of Islamists and Islam with Western values.

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<v Speaker 1>He was intended for the best purposes. Tim Waltz is

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<v Speaker 1>going to run for a third term. I think it's

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<v Speaker 1>likely he'll win because if you're a Democrat in Minnesota,

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<v Speaker 1>that's ten amount to being re elected. And now he's

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<v Speaker 1>going to be the policeman. Well before he was kind

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<v Speaker 1>of a Putts and allowed to happen because you can't

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<v Speaker 1>win in Minnesota, I'm told by talk show hosts of

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<v Speaker 1>Minneapolis unless you have the support of the Somali community

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<v Speaker 1>who vote in block So there might be about ninety

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<v Speaker 1>five thousand Somalis, there's about forty thousand that vote, and

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<v Speaker 1>if you begin the election forty thousand to zero against

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<v Speaker 1>your opponent, that's the way to get elected. In fact,

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<v Speaker 1>they pander so much that the mayor, guy named Fry

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<v Speaker 1>in Minneapolis, has begun to learn Somali so that he

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<v Speaker 1>can speak to Somalis in Somali. That's the pandering. And

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<v Speaker 1>you use the term suicidal empathy, and I see that

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<v Speaker 1>almost everywhere in the SNAP program, et cetera. And I'm thinking,

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<v Speaker 1>somehow will Minnesota's buy the idea that Tim Waltz is

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<v Speaker 1>really serious about cracking down on fry. That might be

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<v Speaker 1>I've seen reporting with you between one and three billion dollars,

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<v Speaker 1>which in Minnesota is a huge amount of money, and

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<v Speaker 1>the FEDS paid for a chunk of that too, and

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<v Speaker 1>it must be stopped. And if not, and you talk

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<v Speaker 1>about g had And I watched your interview the other

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<v Speaker 1>night with Debbie Wasserman Schultz Schultz, she's a Florida congresswoman,

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<v Speaker 1>and you asked her a good question, which is, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>a congressman, she's leader of the Democratic Party, how much

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<v Speaker 1>of a threat in America? How big of a threat

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<v Speaker 1>is jihad? We see it happening out all over the world,

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<v Speaker 1>that this Christmas marks and Mars and Europe shutting down.

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<v Speaker 1>That I guess Paris is not going to have a

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<v Speaker 1>New Year's Eve celebration this year because of the threat

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<v Speaker 1>of terrorism, not from Catholics, I might add the threat

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<v Speaker 1>of terrorism from Islamist And she had a startling answer

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<v Speaker 1>that Donald Trump is going to damage America more than

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<v Speaker 1>Islamic terrorist. And you were stunned and you push back.

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<v Speaker 1>Can you imagine if that's the mind set of the

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<v Speaker 1>Democratic Party, she's one of the leaders. You would never

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<v Speaker 1>work with someone who's worse than an Islamic terrorist that

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<v Speaker 1>killed innocent people in Australia, your comments, you.

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<v Speaker 2>Are seeing a situation where Western way of life, and

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<v Speaker 2>by that I mean liberal democracy in the classical sense,

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<v Speaker 2>not liberal democrat or republican liberal, is under threat by

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<v Speaker 2>the rise of Islam. And we're seeing it in Western Europe,

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<v Speaker 2>you know. To the point is you pointed out where

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<v Speaker 2>Christmas markets are now being closed or having to have

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<v Speaker 2>barricades around them, or being drowned out by the call

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<v Speaker 2>to prayer, where New Year's Eve celebrations are being canceled.

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<v Speaker 2>So rather than protect against the threat of terrorism, or

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<v Speaker 2>to kick out the people who would be terrorists or

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<v Speaker 2>to arrest them, Titians in western countries Europe and Australia

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<v Speaker 2>are capitulating and are are are are so afraid of

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<v Speaker 2>being called Islamophobic or not bowing to the needs of

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<v Speaker 2>the few, of the of the Muslims, that they are

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<v Speaker 2>willing to transform the life of the many. And you

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<v Speaker 2>could say it'll never come to let me tell you

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<v Speaker 2>it can and it will, and you're seeing you're seeing

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<v Speaker 2>the little tiny flippers of it in places like you're born, Michigan.

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<v Speaker 2>You're seeing little tiny slippers of it in places in

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<v Speaker 2>Texas where where groups are trying to do this, where

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<v Speaker 2>the where the Islamist community there is trying to supersede

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<v Speaker 2>Western values with Islamist values. And that, by the way,

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<v Speaker 2>is what the Quran says to do. And anybody who

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<v Speaker 2>wants to have a debate about this with me, bring

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<v Speaker 2>it on. Spent four years in the Middle East, interviewed

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<v Speaker 2>to lology hotties. In my time, when people tell you

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<v Speaker 2>who they are, and people show you who they are,

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<v Speaker 2>you should believe them. And when you don't, you do

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<v Speaker 2>so at great risk to yourself. And that's what's happening.

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<v Speaker 1>They compare it to church bells ringing before Mass, which

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<v Speaker 1>is the call to prayer. In dearborn, Michigan. We have

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<v Speaker 1>the new mayor of New York City, Mamdani, who will

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<v Speaker 1>not criticize globalizing the Intafada. He beats around the bush there.

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<v Speaker 1>He runs around with the worst elements of Islam. And

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<v Speaker 1>I would add that Cincinnati and other great cities have

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of Musques around at Toledo, Ohio, for example,

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<v Speaker 1>as a large one. There's a large branch of Islam

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<v Speaker 1>that is extremely violent, treating Jews and Catholics and Christians

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<v Speaker 1>and Americans like mice and cockroaches. There's another branch of

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<v Speaker 1>that tree where the word Islam is peace, wanting to

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<v Speaker 1>live with others. Have you noticed that American Muslims living

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<v Speaker 1>in peaceful conditions with families and work and businesses are

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<v Speaker 1>not speaking up. There's no leader of Isam like there's

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<v Speaker 1>a pope, like a pope and a cardinal or whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>And have you seen circumstances or Islamic leaders speak up

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<v Speaker 1>and say that's not us. Have you seen that?

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<v Speaker 2>Right that? That is the issue here right in? What

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<v Speaker 2>you are seeing is the quote unquote moderate parts of

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<v Speaker 2>Islam not speak up and not police their own And

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<v Speaker 2>that is the really dangerous change. And you know, what

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<v Speaker 2>you want to call Islam and peaceful religion, there's an

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<v Speaker 2>argument to be made for that, But then those who

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<v Speaker 2>preach peace must stand up to those who preach hate,

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<v Speaker 2>and they must turn them in and they must call

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<v Speaker 2>them out. And that is not happening. And you know,

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<v Speaker 2>you come to you know, I think about this as

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<v Speaker 2>my grandparents who came came to America. You come to

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<v Speaker 2>America because you want to embrace American values, not because

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<v Speaker 2>you want to bring your values here. And what we

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<v Speaker 2>are seeing, especially in the Somali community in Minneapolis, is

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<v Speaker 2>group people who are bringing their values to America and

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<v Speaker 2>saying America must adapt to us. Yeah, that's not how

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<v Speaker 2>this deal works. And if we allow that to happen,

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<v Speaker 2>you are going to have the same thing here that

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<v Speaker 2>you have in Sydney, Australia, where there are large parts

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<v Speaker 2>of the city that have turned into little Damascus. No

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<v Speaker 2>different than places in the United Kingdom that feel much

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<v Speaker 2>more like you know, Islamabad than they do, like Birmingham,

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<v Speaker 2>and where Islamic values are effectively viewed as replacing Western law.

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<v Speaker 2>And that is a extraordinarily dangerous thing because of what again,

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<v Speaker 2>separate any individual Muslim of whom I have friends and

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<v Speaker 2>of whom I think many are wonderful people, from the

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<v Speaker 2>values of Islam, from Mohammedism. And there's a big difference.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think we are finally now starting to be

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<v Speaker 2>able to have an honest conversation about whether or not

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<v Speaker 2>Islam is compatible with Western values. And the answer really

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<v Speaker 2>is that in let that no one of them is

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<v Speaker 2>going to have to adapt, and that is a real problem.

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<v Speaker 1>There are Brits in England that are arrested at three

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<v Speaker 1>o'clock in the morning in their homes by London police

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<v Speaker 1>if they post something online against the Islam religion. Are saying,

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<v Speaker 1>why are we doing this? It's not hate speech. They're

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<v Speaker 1>criticizing the practices that they see in their hometowns in

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<v Speaker 1>London and England, and they're arrested by the police in

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<v Speaker 1>their homes at three am and put in jail many

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<v Speaker 1>times for months until they until they reckon order their opinions.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's unbelievable if you or I said in the

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<v Speaker 2>United Kingdom what we are saying right now, if we

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<v Speaker 2>said what we are just said on the radio online,

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<v Speaker 2>we would be arrested in the United Kingdom, we would

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<v Speaker 2>this would be considered anti social behavior to say what

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<v Speaker 2>we have just said. In America has to be honest

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<v Speaker 2>with itself about if that's where we want to go.

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<v Speaker 1>No, well we have to fight. Minneapolis is at the

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<v Speaker 1>breaking point, I think. But you know, we live in

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<v Speaker 1>a republic who with democratic overturns and the people of

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<v Speaker 1>Minnesota have got to say this is not going to

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<v Speaker 1>become the Islamic Republic of Minnesota. And if Tim Waltz

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<v Speaker 1>gets re elected, if Fry gets reelected, Keith Ellison, the

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<v Speaker 1>AG gets reelected, well that's what you get. And it

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<v Speaker 1>is sick. I often say, we get the government we

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<v Speaker 1>deserve and the times that concerns me greatly. Now secondly,

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<v Speaker 1>I mentioned this earlier at three o'clock Eastern time today,

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<v Speaker 1>in about three hours, they're going to release the Epstein files.

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<v Speaker 1>May I share with you one thought of mine on

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<v Speaker 1>that matter? Please, I'm watching. It was either you or

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<v Speaker 1>it might have been I might have been a CNN.

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<v Speaker 1>It's been about four or five months, and they had

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<v Speaker 1>on one of the US attorneys from the Southern District

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<v Speaker 1>of New York who in seventeen, eighteen and nineteen thoroughly

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<v Speaker 1>investigated the Epstein matter because they assumed, like I assume,

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<v Speaker 1>like I assume, you assume. I can't assume what you assume,

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<v Speaker 1>but I assume. And Tony Bender assumed that there's all

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<v Speaker 1>these important guys from Bill Gates to Bill Clinton, Donald Trump,

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<v Speaker 1>just this name the person Wexner, etc. That had sex

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<v Speaker 1>with teenage girls, inappropriately. There's no inappropriate sex with the

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<v Speaker 1>teenage girl, and I assume that even sitting here, I

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<v Speaker 1>guess that's the case. However, may I use the term?

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<v Speaker 1>For eighteen months to two years? The US Attorney Southern

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<v Speaker 1>District of New York perceived as the best law enforcement

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<v Speaker 1>agency in the country by themselves, they said. This US

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<v Speaker 1>attorney who worked on those cases said, of course, I

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<v Speaker 1>can't speak about grand jury matters, but he said that

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<v Speaker 1>everyone that could be criminally indicted in this, and that

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<v Speaker 1>entire Epstein matter was, which was Jeffrey Epstein and Glainne Maxwell.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm watching this and the interviewer said, would you

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<v Speaker 1>say that again? Everyone? He said, everyone who criminally is

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<v Speaker 1>liable in our opinion probable cause has been indicted. And

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<v Speaker 1>if that's the case, Leland, vind, are we going to

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<v Speaker 1>learn it? And this would be kept alive for a

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<v Speaker 1>long time because it politically benefits some. Is it possible

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<v Speaker 1>that the men whose photos ninety five thousand photos released,

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<v Speaker 1>all these famous, famous guys, that none of them engaged

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<v Speaker 1>in sex with teenage girls or in a situation where

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<v Speaker 1>a young woman was sexually traffic Because if that was

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<v Speaker 1>the case, one of the members of that office was

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<v Speaker 1>James Comy's daughter, that the one who hated Trump. They

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to get him, they wanted to get everybody involved.

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<v Speaker 1>Is it possible, There's no there, there is that possible.

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<v Speaker 2>Of course it's possible. And there's also a middle ground. Bill,

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<v Speaker 2>there's a middle ground that there is no there there.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't believe there is that there there when it

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<v Speaker 2>comes to Trump, because, as you point out, I think

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<v Speaker 2>if there was a number of different DJs and prosecutors

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<v Speaker 2>would have gone there and right. But there is a

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<v Speaker 2>there is a middle ground here, which is that there

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<v Speaker 2>were men who perhaps were not trafficked under apemen, but

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<v Speaker 2>who were perhaps at the island or in other places

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<v Speaker 2>and engaged in behavior that may not have been criminal,

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<v Speaker 2>but may have been really icky and awful. They have

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<v Speaker 2>gotten the past, and I think the best journalist on

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<v Speaker 2>this is a woman named Tara Palmery, and she has

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<v Speaker 2>pointed out that in the depositions of these alleged victims

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<v Speaker 2>that there have been other names that have been mentioned,

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<v Speaker 2>and there have been other names that have been mentioned

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<v Speaker 2>as men who had sex with them. Now, were they

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<v Speaker 2>underage at the time, That that is a different story,

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<v Speaker 2>but it is very clear that there was a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of other things going on, and you know, now again,

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<v Speaker 2>and I think what the US Attorneys of the District

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<v Speaker 2>of New York setting. I think what's really important is

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<v Speaker 2>everybody that we could prosecute we did, Yeah, which means

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<v Speaker 2>everybody that we could prove guilty beyond a reasonable doubt.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's very That's a very different standard than is

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<v Speaker 2>this person a good person? Right, yep, yeah, I like

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<v Speaker 2>those are different things.

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<v Speaker 1>I like your use of the ikey shuffle. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>we think of ikey wouolds, but it's ikey to have

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<v Speaker 1>a sixty five year old guy having sex with a

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<v Speaker 1>twenty two year old woman's but it's not criminal unless

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<v Speaker 1>she was trafficked. Well, look, we got a run, but

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<v Speaker 1>born Lucky's still.

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<v Speaker 2>Out there that happy no merry Christmas.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, we deal with the news, and we take the

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<v Speaker 1>news as it comes, and I hope we have a

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<v Speaker 1>successful twenty twenty six. Keep doing what you're doing. I

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<v Speaker 1>love our relationship. We've met I think one time at

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<v Speaker 1>a place in Naples called Old Old Collier, and I

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<v Speaker 1>hope to see you again down there at some point.

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<v Speaker 1>But let's keep it going. I love the term I

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<v Speaker 1>may take it from you, suicidal empathy. That's a great

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<v Speaker 1>term to describe what's happening in America. But Leland, give

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<v Speaker 1>my best to Rachel and all your family, and may

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<v Speaker 1>God bless you. God bless America, and to you and yours, Leland,

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<v Speaker 1>Merry Christmas, Thank you, Bill, God bless Let's continue with

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<v Speaker 1>more and that could be the case. And of course

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<v Speaker 1>the women. There have been dozens and dozens of class

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<v Speaker 1>action lawsuits, tens of millions of dollars paid out to

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<v Speaker 1>the victims of Jeffrey Epstein from insurance companies, banks, and

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<v Speaker 1>brokerage firms. And I'm saying, well, they were paid financially

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<v Speaker 1>for the injuries inflicted upon them, and that's a good thing.

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<v Speaker 1>So let's continue with more news. Next, your home of

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<v Speaker 1>the Bengals. News Radio seven hundred ought to be