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Speaker 1: Billy Cunningham, the Great America. Welcome this Friday afternoon in

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Speaker 1: the tri State fifty thousand watch but sounded like a million.

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Speaker 1: And I have some announcement to make later on about

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Speaker 1: yours truly, and we'll deal with that later. But first

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Speaker 1: of all, we have many fallouts from the last few

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Speaker 1: days about what happening in Providence and what happened in Massachusetts, mit, etc.

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Speaker 1: Plus we have sometime around three o'clock today supposedly the

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Speaker 1: Epstein files are going to be released, at least those

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Speaker 1: not redacted. We've got that going on, and more so,

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Speaker 1: joining you nine now is the great Leland Vinter. The

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Speaker 1: main character, the main host on News Nation is Leland Vitter.

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Speaker 1: I'm promoting you and Leland welcome again to the Bill

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Speaker 1: Cunningham Show. And I like to think this is a

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Speaker 1: great year for Leland Vitter. Number one, you have a

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Speaker 1: new bride and number two a best selling book. So

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Speaker 1: what do you think about this year from a personal perspective?

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Speaker 2: Well, I am blessed and as you, as you pointed out,

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Speaker 2: got married, have a new nephew, my parents' first grandchild

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Speaker 2: came and Rachel somehow had been completely flummixed and totally

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Speaker 2: disregarded both her better judgment and everyone's advice and actually

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Speaker 2: walked down the aisle in June. And then, as you noted,

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Speaker 2: Born Lucky, my book about growing up with autism and

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Speaker 2: my dad's adapting me to the world, has has done well.

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Speaker 2: I think the best part of Born Lucky, really, and

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Speaker 2: I think the part of it this year that's been

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Speaker 2: the best is helping so many people. You know, we

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Speaker 2: say Born Lucky is hope for every parent of a

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Speaker 2: kid having a hard time, and that has proven out

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Speaker 2: by the hundreds of letters that I have gotten from

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Speaker 2: families not just of kids with autism, but ADHD, anxiety,

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Speaker 2: difficulties with bullying, all sorts of different things who said

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Speaker 2: that Born Lucky really gives them this real sense of hope.

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Speaker 2: And I think it's why it's taken off, why it's

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Speaker 2: been such a huge Christmas gift, is because there's so

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Speaker 2: many families who are looking to realize that they're they're

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Speaker 2: not alone, and that is the Born Lucky story.

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Speaker 1: Something just clicked in my mind, which occurs now and then,

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Speaker 1: is that having autism and you still have it and

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Speaker 1: uh being so successful. I'm thinking about Minneapolis, Minnesota and

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Speaker 1: I'm thinking about a program there made up by Tim

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Speaker 1: Waltz and others to assist specifically Somali kids with autism,

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Speaker 1: which is needed, and then they have that program looted

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Speaker 1: by criminals who are buying villas in Spain. Fancy joins

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Speaker 1: fancy food to loot the money intended for kids with autism.

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Speaker 1: How did that strike your heart?

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Speaker 2: Offensive but unsurprising. And the therapy that was used in

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Speaker 2: the fraud right was called Aba therapy is highly effective

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Speaker 2: and it's by far the best thing that can happen

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Speaker 2: out basically how to fake a massive number of autism

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Speaker 2: diagnoses and then not give the services obviously to the

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Speaker 2: kids who had had fake diagnoses, but also to the

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Speaker 2: kids who had real diagnosises is just offensive at so

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Speaker 2: many levels. I think it's unsurprising, but it goes to

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Speaker 2: the level of suicidal empathy that I think we are

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Speaker 2: seeing as it relates, especially in Minnesota, but also around

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Speaker 2: the rest of America. When it comes to the broader

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Speaker 2: threat of radical Islam or of just Islam itself into

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Speaker 2: to twenty twenty six. One of the big stories and

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Speaker 2: incompatibility of Islamists and Islam with Western values.

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Speaker 1: He was intended for the best purposes. Tim Waltz is

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Speaker 1: going to run for a third term. I think it's

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Speaker 1: likely he'll win because if you're a Democrat in Minnesota,

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Speaker 1: that's ten amount to being re elected. And now he's

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Speaker 1: going to be the policeman. Well before he was kind

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Speaker 1: win in Minnesota, I'm told by talk show hosts of

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Speaker 1: five thousand Somalis, there's about forty thousand that vote, and

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Speaker 1: if you begin the election forty thousand to zero against

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Speaker 1: your opponent, that's the way to get elected. In fact,

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Speaker 1: they pander so much that the mayor, guy named Fry

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Speaker 1: it must be stopped. And if not, and you talk

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Speaker 1: that this Christmas marks and Mars and Europe shutting down.

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Speaker 1: of terrorism, not from Catholics, I might add the threat

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Speaker 1: Islamic terrorist. And you were stunned and you push back.

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Speaker 1: work with someone who's worse than an Islamic terrorist that

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Speaker 1: killed innocent people in Australia, your comments, you.

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Speaker 2: Are seeing a situation where Western way of life, and

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Speaker 2: the rise of Islam. And we're seeing it in Western Europe,

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Speaker 2: So rather than protect against the threat of terrorism, or

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Speaker 2: willing to transform the life of the many. And you

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Speaker 2: You're seeing little tiny slippers of it in places in

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Speaker 2: the where the Islamist community there is trying to supersede

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Speaker 2: so at great risk to yourself. And that's what's happening.

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Speaker 1: They compare it to church bells ringing before Mass, which

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Speaker 1: I would add that Cincinnati and other great cities have

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Speaker 1: And have you seen circumstances or Islamic leaders speak up

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Speaker 2: Right that? That is the issue here right in? What

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Speaker 2: And that is a extraordinarily dangerous thing because of what again,

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Speaker 1: There are Brits in England that are arrested at three

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Speaker 2: So it's unbelievable if you or I said in the

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Speaker 1: No, well we have to fight. Minneapolis is at the

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Speaker 2: Of course it's possible. And there's also a middle ground. Bill,

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Speaker 2: Out there that happy no merry Christmas.

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