1 00:00:01,160 --> 00:00:04,560 Speaker 1: All right, back with Eddy and Jason Williams and for 2 00:00:04,920 --> 00:00:07,480 Speaker 1: Rocky Today and Jace. You know, there is other news 3 00:00:07,520 --> 00:00:11,320 Speaker 1: going on besides what's happening here in Cincinnati. And I'm 4 00:00:11,360 --> 00:00:14,760 Speaker 1: sure our guest right now, Alex Stone from ABC has 5 00:00:14,760 --> 00:00:18,919 Speaker 1: heard about that, but we digress. Yes, Alex Stone, the 6 00:00:18,960 --> 00:00:22,599 Speaker 1: other big story is the long security lines at the airports. 7 00:00:22,840 --> 00:00:26,640 Speaker 1: And it looks like now you tell us, first off, 8 00:00:26,640 --> 00:00:31,640 Speaker 1: welcome back to the program, gentlemen. Always a pleasure. So 9 00:00:31,720 --> 00:00:34,640 Speaker 1: what do we know about? So there was an agreement, 10 00:00:34,720 --> 00:00:37,680 Speaker 1: the Senate had passed an agreement. Now the House laughed 11 00:00:37,720 --> 00:00:41,240 Speaker 1: it off, but they're going to start paying the TSA guys. 12 00:00:41,280 --> 00:00:41,839 Speaker 1: What's going on? 13 00:00:42,560 --> 00:00:47,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, So the Department of Homeland Security is saying by Monday, 14 00:00:47,200 --> 00:00:50,879 Speaker 2: the TSA officers should be getting their paychecks again. And 15 00:00:51,040 --> 00:00:54,000 Speaker 2: it comes after the President ordered really it's going to 16 00:00:54,000 --> 00:00:56,280 Speaker 2: be moving money around until there is a deal done 17 00:00:56,280 --> 00:01:00,760 Speaker 2: when there's actual funding. But he's ordering the government to 18 00:01:00,800 --> 00:01:04,280 Speaker 2: pay the TSA officers to get money moving. And then 19 00:01:04,319 --> 00:01:06,200 Speaker 2: House figure Mike Johnson, he's the one who announced it. 20 00:01:06,200 --> 00:01:07,360 Speaker 2: Here's what he said just a few minutes ago. 21 00:01:07,440 --> 00:01:09,800 Speaker 3: Other than Trump has already ordered by executive order that 22 00:01:09,920 --> 00:01:13,640 Speaker 3: TSA agents will be paid and those that machinery is 23 00:01:13,680 --> 00:01:16,520 Speaker 3: in process right now. The offesome Menagement budget is working 24 00:01:16,560 --> 00:01:18,600 Speaker 3: through that to make sure that that happens, and we 25 00:01:18,640 --> 00:01:20,920 Speaker 3: will reduce the lines and the waves that the airlines 26 00:01:21,200 --> 00:01:23,360 Speaker 3: will make sure that those who are protecting us are paid. 27 00:01:23,560 --> 00:01:27,080 Speaker 2: So today they again the TSA officers got their second 28 00:01:27,160 --> 00:01:30,440 Speaker 2: zero dollar paycheck and the third paycheck the first one, 29 00:01:30,520 --> 00:01:33,240 Speaker 2: but three paychecks ago that was only like ten percent 30 00:01:33,280 --> 00:01:35,360 Speaker 2: of their paycheck because of the pay period. So really 31 00:01:35,360 --> 00:01:39,800 Speaker 2: they've gone three paychecks now without getting much, if any money. 32 00:01:39,840 --> 00:01:43,399 Speaker 2: So this could all change very quickly based on paychecks 33 00:01:43,400 --> 00:01:45,679 Speaker 2: flowing again if they are really going to begin getting 34 00:01:45,680 --> 00:01:48,920 Speaker 2: paid on Monday, but on the actual funding of it. Yet, 35 00:01:49,000 --> 00:01:52,240 Speaker 2: the Senates and the House a funding bill that left 36 00:01:52,240 --> 00:01:55,360 Speaker 2: out immigration enforcement just to get money going again to 37 00:01:55,480 --> 00:01:59,480 Speaker 2: the TSA, FEMA and the Coast Guard, and the Senate 38 00:02:00,200 --> 00:02:03,120 Speaker 2: House today rejected that they are now coming up with 39 00:02:03,200 --> 00:02:06,040 Speaker 2: their own bill that would include immigration enforcement, which is 40 00:02:06,080 --> 00:02:08,800 Speaker 2: what Democrats have been saying that they won't okay, and 41 00:02:08,840 --> 00:02:10,680 Speaker 2: they're going to send it back to the Senate, but 42 00:02:10,760 --> 00:02:12,480 Speaker 2: it's probably going to get held up in the Senate 43 00:02:12,480 --> 00:02:15,520 Speaker 2: because it's got immigration enforcement in it and doesn't do 44 00:02:15,720 --> 00:02:18,400 Speaker 2: what the Democrats have been holding out for, wanting to 45 00:02:18,480 --> 00:02:22,720 Speaker 2: change the rules of ICE and CVP and whatnot. So 46 00:02:22,760 --> 00:02:24,799 Speaker 2: who knows what's going to go on there, But either way, 47 00:02:24,840 --> 00:02:28,600 Speaker 2: with the President's executive order, it appears that TSA officers 48 00:02:28,680 --> 00:02:30,480 Speaker 2: very quickly are going to get paid and that should 49 00:02:30,560 --> 00:02:33,680 Speaker 2: put an end to these crazy long wait times. At 50 00:02:33,720 --> 00:02:36,320 Speaker 2: George Bush in her Continental Airport yesterday it was around 51 00:02:36,360 --> 00:02:40,519 Speaker 2: five hours to get through security, getting worse every day. 52 00:02:40,560 --> 00:02:43,600 Speaker 2: This one was trying to fly out, it was five hours. 53 00:02:43,720 --> 00:02:45,679 Speaker 2: She could have driven a lot quicker. 54 00:02:45,480 --> 00:02:49,079 Speaker 3: Traveling from Houston to Goton Rouge. So I should have 55 00:02:49,240 --> 00:02:54,000 Speaker 3: just driven it right the five hours hilarious next to. 56 00:02:54,000 --> 00:02:56,160 Speaker 2: This, Yeah, so we just got to we got to 57 00:02:56,160 --> 00:02:58,400 Speaker 2: see it. At least a text that's going to all 58 00:02:58,440 --> 00:03:00,680 Speaker 2: TSA officers saying that they will at their back pay 59 00:03:00,760 --> 00:03:04,840 Speaker 2: beginning on Monday and effective tomorrow, all employees must return 60 00:03:04,919 --> 00:03:07,240 Speaker 2: to work. Now, the expectation has been through all of 61 00:03:07,240 --> 00:03:09,399 Speaker 2: this that they were going to work, but the reality 62 00:03:09,440 --> 00:03:11,280 Speaker 2: is that come into play of not being able to 63 00:03:11,320 --> 00:03:13,400 Speaker 2: pay for gas or childcare or you know, a lot 64 00:03:13,400 --> 00:03:15,200 Speaker 2: of them have just quit and gone to other jobs. 65 00:03:15,200 --> 00:03:18,600 Speaker 2: So they're down in numbers as well. But yesterday in Houston, 66 00:03:18,760 --> 00:03:22,200 Speaker 2: forty four percent of TSA officers called out sick. Forty 67 00:03:22,240 --> 00:03:25,959 Speaker 2: four almost half were gone, forty percent in Atlanta, thirty 68 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:29,080 Speaker 2: seven percent in Baltimore, thirty four percent at JFK Airport 69 00:03:29,120 --> 00:03:31,880 Speaker 2: in New York, thirty one percent in New Orleans, twenty 70 00:03:31,880 --> 00:03:34,839 Speaker 2: four percent in Phoenix. So this has been a big hit, 71 00:03:34,880 --> 00:03:37,080 Speaker 2: and a lot of these airports where they had multiple checkpoints, 72 00:03:37,360 --> 00:03:39,440 Speaker 2: they had to go down to one or two checkpoints, 73 00:03:39,480 --> 00:03:43,480 Speaker 2: really slowing everything down. But again, with the funding maybe 74 00:03:43,520 --> 00:03:45,440 Speaker 2: being approved in the next couple of days, they try 75 00:03:45,480 --> 00:03:47,520 Speaker 2: to come to a deal. But really with the order 76 00:03:47,680 --> 00:03:51,680 Speaker 2: for the Department of Homeland Security and the government, the 77 00:03:51,960 --> 00:03:54,360 Speaker 2: budget off has to come up with the money, they 78 00:03:54,400 --> 00:03:56,200 Speaker 2: should get paid beginning on Monday. 79 00:03:56,720 --> 00:03:58,920 Speaker 4: I think Alex you kind of answered the question, but 80 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:02,640 Speaker 4: my question was Monday is when they're getting paid. But 81 00:04:03,280 --> 00:04:08,440 Speaker 4: in the interim it is peak spring break travel season 82 00:04:08,520 --> 00:04:11,720 Speaker 4: coming and going, and my family, my own family right 83 00:04:11,720 --> 00:04:14,560 Speaker 4: now is they're flying out of Savannah back to Cincinnati tomorrow. 84 00:04:15,040 --> 00:04:18,400 Speaker 4: But what you're saying is this this should now by 85 00:04:18,480 --> 00:04:21,599 Speaker 4: today's announcement, though they're only not getting paid till Monday, 86 00:04:22,480 --> 00:04:26,279 Speaker 4: this weekend and even maybe even tonight. Right, things should 87 00:04:26,320 --> 00:04:28,560 Speaker 4: be getting back to normal or back to normal. 88 00:04:29,200 --> 00:04:31,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, that's the order, is that they've got 89 00:04:31,480 --> 00:04:33,800 Speaker 2: to come back now. Granted again that there have been 90 00:04:33,960 --> 00:04:36,320 Speaker 2: hundreds who have just quit, and there's a reason for 91 00:04:36,440 --> 00:04:39,640 Speaker 2: that in that TSA officers don't make much money, and 92 00:04:39,680 --> 00:04:41,920 Speaker 2: that there are some areas of the country where they 93 00:04:41,920 --> 00:04:44,360 Speaker 2: can make more going and working at an Amazon warehouse 94 00:04:44,440 --> 00:04:47,160 Speaker 2: or working at a fast food restaurant, and so some 95 00:04:47,200 --> 00:04:48,960 Speaker 2: of them have said, you know what, enough of this 96 00:04:49,200 --> 00:04:52,200 Speaker 2: after several government shutdowns, this one going on for a 97 00:04:52,200 --> 00:04:55,159 Speaker 2: long time, that they're done, that they're out, and that 98 00:04:55,160 --> 00:04:56,880 Speaker 2: they're not going to deal with any longer. But those 99 00:04:56,880 --> 00:05:00,160 Speaker 2: who have not quit, they are being told no more 100 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:03,800 Speaker 2: are calling out sick, that effective immediately get back in 101 00:05:04,000 --> 00:05:07,960 Speaker 2: and work those security checkpoints now, assuming that they follow 102 00:05:08,560 --> 00:05:10,520 Speaker 2: that order and that they don't say, well, I want 103 00:05:10,520 --> 00:05:12,800 Speaker 2: to see a paycheck first, or you know, even now 104 00:05:12,839 --> 00:05:14,600 Speaker 2: they may say I don't have any money for gas, 105 00:05:14,600 --> 00:05:16,479 Speaker 2: so I'll be there once you start paying me again. 106 00:05:16,839 --> 00:05:18,840 Speaker 2: But they should get back pay, and they are being 107 00:05:18,920 --> 00:05:22,080 Speaker 2: ordered back, but at least by early next week, assuming 108 00:05:22,120 --> 00:05:25,000 Speaker 2: that the President's executive order that it flies through and 109 00:05:25,040 --> 00:05:27,719 Speaker 2: that paychecks really do begin flowing and there's not some 110 00:05:27,839 --> 00:05:30,640 Speaker 2: lawsuit that holds it up or something else, then yeah, 111 00:05:30,720 --> 00:05:33,720 Speaker 2: early next week things should be back to normal for 112 00:05:33,760 --> 00:05:35,960 Speaker 2: the most part, except for the ranks that they've got 113 00:05:35,960 --> 00:05:37,880 Speaker 2: a fill again. For those who have just quit and walked. 114 00:05:37,680 --> 00:05:40,320 Speaker 4: Away, right well, God, God, God bless those folks who 115 00:05:40,400 --> 00:05:42,719 Speaker 4: have gotten up every day without knowing when their next 116 00:05:42,760 --> 00:05:46,480 Speaker 4: paycheck's coming and still going to work. And do those 117 00:05:46,520 --> 00:05:48,440 Speaker 4: folks who have still come to work it are they 118 00:05:48,440 --> 00:05:50,600 Speaker 4: going to get anything extra? I know they're going to 119 00:05:50,640 --> 00:05:52,720 Speaker 4: start getting their their pay and their back pay. Are 120 00:05:52,760 --> 00:05:54,320 Speaker 4: they going to get anything on top of that? 121 00:05:54,680 --> 00:05:55,040 Speaker 1: As like. 122 00:05:56,520 --> 00:06:00,560 Speaker 2: They got a kind of a reward for working in 123 00:06:00,760 --> 00:06:02,560 Speaker 2: the one last year, but we haven't heard of anything 124 00:06:02,720 --> 00:06:05,080 Speaker 2: this year so far that they haven't gotten that far. 125 00:06:05,240 --> 00:06:06,800 Speaker 2: But I gotta tell you, I was a lax a 126 00:06:06,839 --> 00:06:10,280 Speaker 2: couple of times this week covering everything going on, and 127 00:06:10,360 --> 00:06:14,240 Speaker 2: the TSA officers who are working had smiles on their faces. 128 00:06:14,520 --> 00:06:17,880 Speaker 2: They were relaxed. They were, you know, saying, Hey, this 129 00:06:18,000 --> 00:06:19,920 Speaker 2: is just kind of what we do. And they were 130 00:06:19,920 --> 00:06:22,120 Speaker 2: getting fed by the airport. The airport was giving them 131 00:06:22,200 --> 00:06:23,800 Speaker 2: lunch and they were all kind of walking, you know, 132 00:06:23,880 --> 00:06:26,359 Speaker 2: around on their brakes with the They were in really 133 00:06:26,400 --> 00:06:28,640 Speaker 2: good moods. I would be really grumpy if I didn't 134 00:06:28,680 --> 00:06:30,360 Speaker 2: get paid for a month and was being told I 135 00:06:30,400 --> 00:06:33,000 Speaker 2: had to show up to work. They were handling it 136 00:06:33,120 --> 00:06:33,800 Speaker 2: very very well. 137 00:06:34,320 --> 00:06:38,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, And I saw because I just flew back from 138 00:06:38,400 --> 00:06:41,760 Speaker 1: Tampa just a couple of weeks ago, and I saw 139 00:06:41,800 --> 00:06:43,839 Speaker 1: the same thing Alex. The people who were there on 140 00:06:43,880 --> 00:06:46,919 Speaker 1: the line, but this was right before all of this 141 00:06:46,960 --> 00:06:49,840 Speaker 1: stuff happened. I mean, I was lucky, but the people 142 00:06:49,920 --> 00:06:53,200 Speaker 1: who are working were couldn't have been nicer. And to 143 00:06:53,320 --> 00:06:55,760 Speaker 1: everybody's credit, going through the line, I don't believe I 144 00:06:55,760 --> 00:06:59,760 Speaker 1: didn't hear one person say some kind of statement of 145 00:06:59,760 --> 00:07:02,520 Speaker 1: great attitude towards them, being a thank you for being here. 146 00:07:02,839 --> 00:07:03,039 Speaker 2: Great. 147 00:07:03,200 --> 00:07:05,960 Speaker 1: Everybody was being super nice about it, and that was 148 00:07:06,000 --> 00:07:06,800 Speaker 1: good to see. 149 00:07:07,320 --> 00:07:09,200 Speaker 2: Yeah. And I mean, this isn't their fault at all, 150 00:07:09,200 --> 00:07:12,160 Speaker 2: and it's not even their fight because the Democrats have 151 00:07:12,240 --> 00:07:15,960 Speaker 2: been holding out over Immigration enforcement and ICE agents have 152 00:07:16,080 --> 00:07:18,760 Speaker 2: been paid through this whole thing because they're considered law enforcement. 153 00:07:18,800 --> 00:07:22,360 Speaker 2: TSA is not law enforcement, but during government shutdowns, law 154 00:07:22,440 --> 00:07:24,880 Speaker 2: enforcement continues to get paid and that's an argument that 155 00:07:25,440 --> 00:07:28,600 Speaker 2: needs to have some resolution during these things of how 156 00:07:28,600 --> 00:07:31,960 Speaker 2: do we get TSA paid and air traffic controllers paid? 157 00:07:31,960 --> 00:07:34,600 Speaker 2: They weren't included in this one, but during the last 158 00:07:34,640 --> 00:07:38,920 Speaker 2: government shutdown, because FBI agents continue to get paid, of 159 00:07:39,000 --> 00:07:42,200 Speaker 2: federal agents in general, their law enforcement, even during a shutdown, 160 00:07:42,480 --> 00:07:44,920 Speaker 2: they get paid, but the others do not. But so 161 00:07:45,000 --> 00:07:48,200 Speaker 2: this wasn't the TSA's fight. This was over immigration enforcement. 162 00:07:48,240 --> 00:07:50,560 Speaker 2: But those who were being that they were fighting over 163 00:07:50,640 --> 00:07:53,440 Speaker 2: were continuing to get paid and the TSA officers were 164 00:07:53,440 --> 00:07:56,040 Speaker 2: not and are not right now, but hopefully well in 165 00:07:56,080 --> 00:07:58,960 Speaker 2: the next couple of days. So. Yeah, and it hasn't 166 00:07:59,000 --> 00:08:01,680 Speaker 2: been everywhere, by the way, there's been no rate. 167 00:08:01,960 --> 00:08:02,840 Speaker 1: That's what I'm going to ask. 168 00:08:02,840 --> 00:08:05,320 Speaker 2: You could walk right through security. It hasn't been anything 169 00:08:05,360 --> 00:08:07,080 Speaker 2: like some of these other cities. So it really depends 170 00:08:07,120 --> 00:08:07,600 Speaker 2: on the city. 171 00:08:07,920 --> 00:08:11,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, because my experience here in Cincinnati hasn't been bad. 172 00:08:11,800 --> 00:08:14,200 Speaker 1: But when I traveled, I was traveling kind of the 173 00:08:14,280 --> 00:08:16,760 Speaker 1: off time in the afternoon and stuff, so it wasn't bad. 174 00:08:16,840 --> 00:08:21,080 Speaker 1: But some of the morning pictures I've seen are truly horrendous. 175 00:08:22,320 --> 00:08:26,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean Atlanta, Houston, Phoenix, Baltimore, some of them 176 00:08:26,680 --> 00:08:27,800 Speaker 2: have been really, really bad, you. 177 00:08:27,840 --> 00:08:32,679 Speaker 1: Pointed out Houston five hour wait new Thanks Alex Stone, 178 00:08:32,840 --> 00:08:34,440 Speaker 1: always a pleasure, buddy, Thanks so much. 179 00:08:34,960 --> 00:08:36,360 Speaker 2: You got it big. Guys have a great weekend. 180 00:08:36,360 --> 00:08:40,160 Speaker 1: Thanks Alex Stone for ABC News's