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Speaker 1: Last hour, I had shared an editorial again, this was

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Speaker 2: I had a friend of.

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Speaker 1: The show who posted I haven't been able to look

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Speaker 1: up in the US House banking scandal in the nineties.

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Speaker 1: The guy bounced nearly seven hundred checks. He's a poster

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Speaker 1: boy for government fraud. If that's true, that's really really funny.

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Speaker 1: So thank you for that. I'll do a quick update

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Speaker 1: on my own and get the details. Oh, welcome into

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Speaker 1: hour two twin City's new Talk AM eleven thirty and

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Speaker 2: Can you take your talkbacks?

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Speaker 1: Brought to you by Lyndahl Realty All morning long, as

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Speaker 1: we dive into fraud, A roadmap to fraud laid out

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Speaker 1: by the US House of Representatives Oversight Committee. Governor Tim

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Speaker 1: Walls announces his plans to centralize and modernize DHS.

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Speaker 2: No, it's a cover up. Plan. That's all this is. First.

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Speaker 2: I want to go back to the iHeartRadio app.

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Speaker 3: Though, Hey John, I know it's not Freedom Friday yep,

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Speaker 3: but following up for Monday, and we were talking about

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Speaker 3: Ricardo Montlebond's lack of or having a fake chest.

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Speaker 2: In con Yeah he didn't.

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Speaker 3: Well, I looked up Sigourney Weaver on Galausy Quest too,

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Speaker 3: and I can confirm my finding show that she also

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I was right about that.

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Speaker 4: But the funny story.

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Speaker 3: That I read about it is that she would throw

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Speaker 2: A corner where I sho didn't handles on the Spaceship.

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Speaker 1: There is a fantastic Galaxy Quest documentary on Amazon that

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Speaker 1: A fifty three page staff report center the American Experiment

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Speaker 1: Bill Glohn Wrights last week on fraud in Minnesota. As

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Speaker 1: some have pointed out, if you follow fraud, the report

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Speaker 1: the top state administrators who presided over the scandals during

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Speaker 1: the earlier Feeding Our Future in the June of twenty

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Speaker 1: the OLA, the committee goes to great lengths to document

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Speaker 1: who knew what when about fraud inside of the Walls administration.

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Speaker 1: The bottom line is is that they knew all along,

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Speaker 5: Candidly, I'm a little disappointed that we would start with

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Speaker 6: They knew and they let it happen.

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Speaker 1: Hey, Governor Jim Walls, then why didn't you do anything

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Speaker 2: Come on, I was told and I got in that.

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Speaker 7: You know, I was worried about problems in DHS and

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Speaker 8: This week, my CoA chair has posted her agenda. It

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Speaker 8: It on today, we are effectively killing this thing off.

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Speaker 2: So so that's how very much I would like. That's

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Speaker 1: I'll give you how it's going here in just a

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Speaker 1: Their only agenda is to put forward talking points to

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Speaker 2: Of the year.

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Speaker 1: It doesn't impact anybody else, It doesn't impact you, it

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Speaker 1: that's going to cost Minnesotan's money. They use Representative Sidney

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Speaker 1: up after the interview with my guest at seven thirty,

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Speaker 8: Thank you, Chair Cleveborn. You know once again we have

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Speaker 1: Role, and it got voted down by Democrats. They passed

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Speaker 1: Minnesota's Medicaid programs. The planned is twofold, according to the

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Speaker 1: story from Fox nine. First, the state would shift away

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Speaker 5: Just candidly, I'm a little disappointed that we would start

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Speaker 1: Well again, do you do that all along? It didn't

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Speaker 1: of course it does. It comes with a massive, massive

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Speaker 1: the Budget Director on a ming. The current plan doesn't

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Speaker 1: The state would however, conduct a study on which of course,

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Speaker 1: is going to cost us money, looking at the status

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Speaker 1: Center of the American Experiment. Governor Wall's medicaid centralization plan

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Speaker 1: This clip went viral yesterday, and for good reason. Governor

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Speaker 5: I think Minnesotans have to recognize is you're hearing about

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Speaker 2: You're going to hear about it.

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Speaker 4: States.

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Speaker 2: You're going to continue to see it.

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Speaker 4: But the fix is.

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Speaker 5: You don't want to hear about fraud, not because somebody

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Speaker 5: is not prosecuting somebody.

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Speaker 2: You don't want to hear.

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Speaker 5: About fraud because you know the safeguards and the systems

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Speaker 5: another model. No other state has gone to a more

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Speaker 4: Every other state has moved towards.

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Speaker 5: A more centralized model of accountability, and I think that's

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Speaker 1: The only reason that you're hearing about fraud is because

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Speaker 5: I think Minnesotans have to recognize is you're hearing about

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Speaker 4: You're gonna be amazing every word of what you just

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Speaker 4: said wrong faily.

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Speaker 1: Governor Walls announces plans to centralize and modernize DHS.

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Speaker 2: According to an article from Fox.

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Speaker 1: Nine, Matt Dean Americanexperiment dot Org rights, Walls's centralization plan

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Speaker 1: will just make things worse. Ignoring recommendations from his own people,

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Speaker 1: Walls will repeat the mistakes of minsture, create a fraud

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Speaker 1: of this is that Walls is attempting to ensure an

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Speaker 1: ability to more easily ignore all the fraud. Now again,

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Speaker 1: he's done right. We're counting the months and his time

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Speaker 1: there was a hearing that took place in DC regarding

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Speaker 1: the massive fraud in Minnesota.

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Speaker 2: But guess who didn't show up? Yeah, Amy Klobashar.

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Speaker 1: I have a couple of eclips from Representative Kristin Robbins,

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Speaker 2: Kristin Robbins here.

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Speaker 10: I just finished testifying at the Senate Judiciary Committee in Washington,

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Speaker 10: I was disappointed that Amy Klovershard didn't even bother to come.

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Speaker 10: She's a member of the full committee, and other members

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Speaker 10: of the committee were here. As Governor, I know how

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Speaker 10: to stop the fraud, and I will hold agencies and

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Speaker 1: All this program would do would make it easier to

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Speaker 1: want to come anywhere near this. She doesn't want to

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Speaker 1: And remember this is the reason why Walls ended up

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Speaker 1: legacy of Governor Tim Wallas is going to be that

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Speaker 1: of abject failure. But speaking Tuesday to state leaders, they said,

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Speaker 1: in the long run, despite the seventeen million in the

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Speaker 1: first budget cycle and fifty five million in the next

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Speaker 1: budget cycle, the plan will prove to be a cost

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Speaker 1: saver for counties.

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Speaker 2: Wall says, I'm willing.

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Speaker 1: To take the you know, whatever political heat there is

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Speaker 1: for making these massive changes that need to be done.

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Speaker 1: But in the long run, everybody will be served better

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Speaker 1: by them. No, he means that, but he's only talking

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Speaker 1: everybody will be better served by them, he just means Democrats.

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Speaker 1: That's all that he's referring to. In recent weeks, the

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Speaker 1: State Program Integrity Director Tim O'Malley also released a comprehensive

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Speaker 1: report looking at the state fraud problem and found the

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Speaker 1: failures dating back for decades.

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Speaker 2: By the way, he quit, that's right on Monday.

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Speaker 1: Six weeks or so after being on the job, tim

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Speaker 1: O'Malley told the House Fraud Prevention of State Oversight Committee.

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Speaker 2: Then he quit.

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Speaker 1: My task was to examine the past, come up with

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Speaker 1: specific recommendations for long term solutions.

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Speaker 2: I think the roadmap does that.

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Speaker 1: The announcement during the meeting appeared to catch some of

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Speaker 1: his work. The retired judge officially started the role in

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Speaker 1: early January. He provided a sixty page report on what

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Speaker 1: he found regarding fraud and taxpayer funded programs. He provided

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Speaker 1: a road map with suggestions for oversight to the state.

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Speaker 2: Oh, when would you be surprised.

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Speaker 1: To know that what Governor Tim Walls put out yesterday

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Speaker 1: completely ignores everything that Tim O'Malley put forward.

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Speaker 2: You know, the guy that just quit.

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Speaker 4: On Monday.

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Speaker 1: After the committee meeting, Channel five spoke with O'Malley and asked,

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Speaker 1: do you feel as the lawmakers or the administration needs

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Speaker 1: someone to get in and replace you.

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Speaker 2: O'Malley said yes. The reporter followed up.

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Speaker 1: If that doesn't happen in a timely manner, does that

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Speaker 1: concern concern you? O'Malley replied, yes, it does, and, as

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Speaker 1: Matt Dean points out in the piece, simply hiding the

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Speaker 1: entire statewide medicaid system under a governor controlled bureau in

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Speaker 1: Saint Paul Drive by a new website is just making

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Speaker 1: things worse.

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Speaker 5: So John Walls wants to modernize the AHS consolidated new computer.

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Speaker 4: System and I'm assuming a.

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Speaker 11: New massive software program will need to be created.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we've all seen how poorly that has gone in

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Speaker 2: At one time when we had a slurplus.

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Speaker 12: When Walls was in he could have easily made these

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Speaker 12: upgrades and show us not to So either again he's

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Speaker 2: Want to fix it.

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Speaker 1: Here's more from Governor Tim Walls in the press conference yesterday.

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Speaker 5: Over the past several years, we have taken major moves

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Speaker 5: to combat the fraud, to strengthen oversight, expand investigations, improve audits,

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Speaker 5: upgrade technology, and increase enforcements. But protecting those programs requires

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Speaker 5: more than just the enforcement. It's moving back upstream in

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Speaker 13: Horrible.

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Speaker 3: Thank you, Tim Walls, or I am now dumber for

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Speaker 3: what I have just listened to.

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Speaker 2: Thank you for the talkback and careful making that turn.

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Speaker 4: Good morning, John.

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Speaker 8: Whenever Tim Waltz talks, it's kind of like that scene

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Speaker 8: from Pirates of the Caribbean where the British guy says,

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Speaker 8: do you think he plans it? Or does he make

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Speaker 8: it up as he goes along.

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Speaker 1: Matt Dean goes on to say Walls dismantles the cost

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Speaker 1: controlling competition, overlooks simple verification tools, fails to address the

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Speaker 1: core fraud drivers, while directly conflicting with the federal requirements

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Speaker 1: under the One Big, Beautiful Bill, and to the point

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Speaker 1: I made a moment ago inexplicably, it contradicts and ignores

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Speaker 1: the key recommendations from his own Program Integrity director Tim

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Speaker 1: O'Malley back in February twenty third of this year with

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Speaker 1: the roadmap to Program Integrity and fraud Prevention with Walls's

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Speaker 1: team has ghosted despite the reports submission to the governor

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Speaker 1: and legislative leaders. Here's more from the Fraud Committee chair,

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Speaker 10: Hi, Kristin Robbins, he the Minnesota Fraud Prevention Committee, and

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Speaker 10: I just finished listening to the Governor's press conference about

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Speaker 10: his new plan to stop fraud by getting rid of

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Speaker 10: the role of managed care organizations and counties in delivering

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Speaker 10: services and centralizing everything at DHS. I do agree with

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Speaker 10: some of the ideas in his proposals, specifically around modernizing technology.

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Speaker 10: That is the first and most important thing we should

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Speaker 10: be doing, especially this session. But the other proposals where

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Speaker 2: Is a mistake.

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Speaker 10: DHS has proven over and over that they have not

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Speaker 10: been able to manage these programs. The Optium report that

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Speaker 10: came out last fall that DHS paid for flagged ninety

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Speaker 10: percent of the autism centers as potential fraud. And those

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Speaker 10: are the ones DHS managed. The ones managed by managed

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Speaker 10: We're not included in that. And the reason is is

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Speaker 10: because managed care organizations have each one has their own

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Speaker 10: special Investigative Unit SIU, which is forensic accountants and fraud

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Speaker 10: prevention specialists who look at all the billing and flag

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Speaker 10: this using the technology the state is still not caught

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Speaker 10: robust element of fraud detection we have in our medicaid

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Speaker 10: system right now, and to cut the knees out from

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Speaker 10: under them and try centralizing everything at DHS is a

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Speaker 10: huge mistake. So I'm just encouraging the governor to put

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Speaker 14: Jimmy Walls knows that centralizing DHS what just make it

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Speaker 14: a clearinghouse for fraud in the state of Minnesota. Like

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Speaker 14: you said, he's going to ride us like we've never

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Speaker 14: been ridden before, and the fraud in the background is

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Speaker 14: just going to increase. It continues to today. Nothing is

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Speaker 14: being done about it. So what makes you think that

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Speaker 5: Expect for the next eleven months for me to ride

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Speaker 5: you like you've never been ridden. You can trust me

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Speaker 5: on this. The person who's angriest about this fraud is me.

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Speaker 1: All Right, one more I'm running a little late, but

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Speaker 5: Look, it's not law abiding citizens. If that were the case,

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Speaker 5: there's a lot of white men. Should be holding a

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Speaker 4: Because when we're.

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Speaker 5: Going to some of these people, they're like, I had

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Speaker 5: which of course the majority being committed by white men,

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Speaker 5: asking us to do more about that. I think it's

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Speaker 5: this is is just making.

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Speaker 2: Sure that we're educating.

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Speaker 4: This is eighty people or so.

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Speaker 5: That have been convicted in this, maybe some more in

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Speaker 5: that out of a broader ring medicate fraudule stretch across

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Speaker 2: So I think it's really important for us.

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Speaker 5: Each community's got this in their own mids. But to

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Speaker 5: I think we continue to educate folks about why they

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Speaker 5: shouldn't commit crimes. You would hope that it's being taught

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Speaker 5: but no, I think this idea that the Somali community

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Speaker 5: I think that's how we got into this, and that's

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Speaker 5: you know again, don't I know.

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Speaker 2: We're not going to lose the plot here.

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Speaker 5: What all this work that's being done. Donald Trump brought

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Speaker 5: It's not brand new, and it's been being worked on,

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Speaker 5: but he made it white hot and very dangerous.

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Speaker 2: This is just a word salad with no substance. So

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Speaker 2: it was the attention given to the.

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Speaker 1: Eighty percent eight to ninety percent of the fraud being

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Speaker 1: conducted by the Somali community and then Trump.

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Speaker 2: Donald Trump and his looming orange face. The problem here.

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Speaker 1: Is that what I'm supposed to take away from from that?

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Speaker 2: All right, we're gonna switch gears. Coming up.

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Speaker 1: We'll get to your talkbacks in just a moment here

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Speaker 1: on Twin Cities News Talk. Will also talk with Adam Sowarze,

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Speaker 1: Senate candidate. We'll get his thoughts on Operation Epic Fury,

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Speaker 1: also his Senate run fraud here in Minnesota.

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Speaker 2: Don't go anywhere you're.

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Speaker 1: Listening to Twin Cities News Talk AM eleven thirty and

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Speaker 1: one oh three five FM. During the White House Press

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Speaker 1: Briefing yesterday, white House Press Secretary of Caroline Levitt talking

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Speaker 1: about the Democrats and their past views on the issue

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Speaker 1: of threats from Iran versus That was three years ago.

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Speaker 1: They've been speaking now since the start of Operation Epic Fury.

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Speaker 15: The Democrats on Capitol Hill are clearly being quite disingenuous.

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Speaker 15: Three years ago, not a single Democrat voted for the

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Speaker 15: against the resolution condemning Iran as the world's leading state

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Speaker 15: sponsor of terror. Yet now with President Trump as Commander

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Speaker 15: in chief, finally taking the action that so many Democrats

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Speaker 15: have called on the Commander in chief to do for many,

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Speaker 15: many years to wipe out the threat of a rogue

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Speaker 15: Iranian terrorist regime, Now all of a sudden, Democrats are

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Speaker 15: playing politics with this long standing bipartisan policy of the

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Speaker 15: United States, and they, fifty three of them in the

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Speaker 15: House recently voted against the resolution condemning Iran as the

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Speaker 15: world state sponsor of terror. So I wouldn't take Democrats

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Speaker 15: out their word. As for boots on the ground, the

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Speaker 15: President has talked about this repeatedly. Wisely, he does not

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Speaker 15: rule options out as commander in chief. So again, I

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Speaker 15: would hesitate to confirm anything that a Democrat on Capitol

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Speaker 15: Hill says right now about the President's thinking.

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Speaker 16: Errett, John, you outline to Steve the military components of

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Speaker 16: what would be involved in ending this war. But it

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Speaker 16: seems like there's a political opponent to the president, said

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Speaker 16: the Fox earlier today. He doesn't believe the new Ayahtola

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Speaker 16: can live in peace. He made a variety of comments

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Speaker 16: suggesting that he should be involved in picking the new

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Speaker 16: Iranian leader. Is the ending of this war also contingent

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Speaker 16: on Iran selecting a leader?

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Speaker 1: That So, that was Caroline Levitt and the White House

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Speaker 1: Press briefing press conference yesterday didn't get a chance to

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Speaker 1: get her to her answer on that, But joining me now,

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Speaker 1: very pleased to welcome to the show Adam Swarzy, Minnesota

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Speaker 1: veteran for us AS Center at Good morning, Adam, thank

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Speaker 1: you so much for checking in this morning. I know

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Speaker 1: you're currently traveling. I'm sure you're campaigning, but I appreciate

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Speaker 1: the opportunity to talk to you a bit this morning.

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Speaker 6: Hey, good morning, mister Jell. Thanks for having back on that.

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Speaker 2: So listen, I'm curious your thoughts.

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Speaker 1: Let's go to the question that was posed to Caroline

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Speaker 1: Levitt there at the end. We know that with Operation

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Speaker 1: Epic Fury, we have degraded Iran's ability greatly to wage

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Speaker 1: war protecting not only ourselves but our allies in the region.

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Speaker 1: But you know, there does seem to be a question

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Speaker 1: over what the ultimate goal of the United States would

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Speaker 1: be regarding the Iranian regime. So before I get your

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Speaker 1: overall thoughts, especially with your military background, what would you

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Speaker 1: like to see happen moving forward regarding Operation Epic Fury

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Speaker 1: and also you know the you know, the son of

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Speaker 1: the Iatola taking over right now, what do you think

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Speaker 1: needs to happen in terms of the Iranian regime?

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Speaker 6: I think we needs to happen is exactly what has happened,

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Speaker 6: is we have a decisive victory for the United States

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Speaker 6: of America and then we get back to business with

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Speaker 6: all the other wonderful things that we're doing on the

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Speaker 6: home front, were lowering taxes, taxes on tips, tax on

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Speaker 6: Social Security, reducing drug prices. I'm not a four wars guy,

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Speaker 6: but President Trump is an awesome record when it comes

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Speaker 6: to foreign policies. If you look at as recently as

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Speaker 6: Venezuela's and ended out One Night operation that we deposed

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Speaker 6: a world leader who is not recognized as a rightful

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Speaker 6: ruler by the international community nor the Biden administration. And

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Speaker 6: if you look at what's going on right now in Iran,

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Speaker 6: this was slated to be a month long operation. Within

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Speaker 6: two days we achieved owning the skies, owning the season.

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Speaker 6: Are now on our second and third priority targets with unvetted,

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Speaker 6: unsteymied resistance this point. But we need to get it,

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Speaker 6: get it done, and get it quick and get back out.

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Speaker 1: What was your instinctive reaction, again, given your military background

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Speaker 1: talking with us in a candidate, Adams Worzy, what was

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Speaker 1: your instinctive reaction when the operation got more got underway.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, as a former Marine and Navy seal who has

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Speaker 6: more time down range than anybody serving in Congress for

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Speaker 6: the Senate, I was just actually impressed with our ability

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Speaker 6: to turn the ship around. When I left the military

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Speaker 6: under the Biden regime, we were at a historic low morale.

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Speaker 6: We could not retain troops, and our military efficiency was terrible.

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Speaker 6: We were crashing planes into each other, we were shooting

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Speaker 6: our own planes down.

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Speaker 2: And now we just did the most.

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Speaker 6: Amazing single hit execution ever in the history of our

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Speaker 6: country in Venezuela. Sorry except for George Washington crossing the

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Speaker 6: Delaware on Christmas Eve. That was gangster. But this new operation,

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Speaker 6: the conflict in Iran, the military efficiency to completely cut

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Speaker 6: off the head of the number one world sponsor of

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Speaker 6: terrorism between of four billion dollars a year that had

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Speaker 6: the fourth largest land army in the world in two days.

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Speaker 6: Is it's really it's the most decisive military knockout in history.

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Speaker 6: And it's because we have leaders who are fectured on

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Speaker 6: the right things. We're deepy, we're deep politicized in the military,

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Speaker 6: and we're storing the military to what it's supposed to do,

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Speaker 6: fight our nations adversaries and protect American citizens. And this

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Speaker 6: is why it matters to me, is I've had one

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Speaker 6: of my brothers die in my arms in Iraq that

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Speaker 6: was sponsored by the she Hat militious courtesie of Iran.

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Speaker 6: I've lost seal brothers in Syria from the she Had

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Speaker 6: military brigades. I've seen in my own eye the death, decayed, destruction,

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Speaker 6: the tune of hundreds of thousands of people because of

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Speaker 6: their any proxies. So as somebody who doesn't like wars,

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Speaker 6: we just stopped.

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Speaker 2: Six four and wars in two days.

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Speaker 1: Well, and it's you know, it's frustrating on two different

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Speaker 1: fronts as we played in that clip from Caroline Levitt.

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Speaker 1: You know, in the past you've had a condemnation coming

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Speaker 1: from the left regarding Iran and the atrocities that they've committed,

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Speaker 1: you know. And then here locally, we were just discussing

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Speaker 1: the fact that you have Democrats that signed off on

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Speaker 1: the Office of Inspector General last year, where you had

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Speaker 1: unanimous support, and yet you have Democrats here in Minnesota

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Speaker 1: that are turning their back on what they already supported,

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Speaker 1: all because if it's an it's an election year. In

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Speaker 1: my opinion, you know that that that hypocrisy is incredibly frustrating.

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Speaker 2: Adam, I know you sense that as well.

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Speaker 4: Well.

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Speaker 2: I love that you brought that up.

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Speaker 6: The Democrats who are the number one fans of the

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Speaker 6: Ukraine War and want the military to invest its national

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Speaker 6: blood and treasure for a boots on operation. That's the

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Speaker 6: Democrats want. We just stopped the number one supporter of Russia.

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Speaker 6: Iran was sponsoring.

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Speaker 2: Them with all of their drones.

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Speaker 6: We just cut off to all that capability. But the

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Speaker 6: Democrats refused again to support America First four policy. And

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Speaker 6: by the way, let's talk about Democrats in Minnesota. Let's

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Speaker 6: not forget that we spent about five billion dollars on

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Speaker 6: this this operation so far. That's less than half of

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Speaker 6: Walls's fraud.

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Speaker 1: The website for a Senate dot com Again, Minnesota veteran

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Speaker 1: running for US ED and we're talking with Adam Swarzei.

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Speaker 1: Let's talk a bit about your campaign. I know that

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Speaker 1: you've had some positive outcomes regarding some district polling that

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Speaker 1: has taken place over the course of the past few months.

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Speaker 1: How has your Senate campaign been going and what have

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Speaker 1: you been hearing from potential voters about, you know, the

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Speaker 1: issues that concern them most. I'm always curious to find

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Speaker 1: out what you're hearing on the ground versus you know,

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Speaker 1: what I cover on a daily basis, because often it's

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Speaker 1: it's different talking points.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, well, I appreciate that you're extra savvy, John. You

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Speaker 6: know how this is an endorsement race in Minnesota, and

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Speaker 6: all pathways are not through DC, they're through the Minnesota grassroots.

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Speaker 2: And to that too, we are crushing it.

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Speaker 6: We've got the largest grassroots organization the entire state of

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Speaker 6: any candidate. We're raising the dollars need to compete in November.

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Speaker 6: So I'm really proud of all those things. The issues yeah,

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Speaker 6: I mean Minnesotans are angry, Minnesotans are embarrassed. Minnesota's on

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Speaker 6: the national new scene constantly for all the wrong reasons.

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Speaker 6: The soft down crime policies, the Democrats supporting the legal

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Speaker 6: immigrants but not American citizens, and the fraud. I mean,

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Speaker 6: for a lot of the country, the referendum for a

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Speaker 6: midterm election is on the presidency, and I would agree

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Speaker 6: with that, except Minnesota. This midterm election is going to

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Speaker 6: be a referendum on the failure of Walls, Flanagan and

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Speaker 6: Keith Elison's policy.

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Speaker 1: Adam Swarze again, Minnesota veteran for US and is it

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Speaker 1: Senate Schwarze for Senate dot Com. Thank you for the

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Speaker 1: time this morning, Adam, It's always great to speak with you,

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Speaker 1: and continued good luck out on the campaign trail. Look

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Speaker 1: forward to next time you and I get a chance

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Speaker 1: to chat.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, thanks for having me on.

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Speaker 2: John Coplas.

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Speaker 1: All right, let's go here, getting back to the legislative session.

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Speaker 1: If you haven't been online, you probably haven't seen this,

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Speaker 1: and you're lucky. I reposted this on my x feed

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Speaker 1: and I'll actually do the same for at TC news

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Speaker 1: Talk for those that find me there at j On

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Speaker 1: at John Justice. So there was a post put up

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Speaker 1: by the Minneso to DFL yesterday pushing back on this

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Speaker 1: idea of essentially Trump giving states money. He wants to

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Speaker 1: give money, and he is giving money to schools and

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Speaker 1: to also lower taxes, but Minnesota Democrats will not allow

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Speaker 1: you to opt in. So I'm going to share with

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Speaker 1: you the audio from this video posted online. You're going

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Speaker 1: to hear from Representative Sidney Jordan, and I'm convinced, as

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Speaker 1: I stated earlier, that this entire post and talking point,

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Speaker 1: which is filled with misinformation, straight up lies, it's there

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Speaker 1: to confuse the public, to mislead the public, and it's

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Speaker 1: also there for the ratio. The DFL knows exactly what

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Speaker 1: they're doing by putting up Sidney Jordan as the poster

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Speaker 1: person to go and talk about this, and especially the

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Speaker 1: language in which she uses in describing falsely what this

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Speaker 1: would do. So we'll start with this, and then we'll

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Speaker 1: dive into commentary from friend of the show Max Rymer

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Speaker 1: and Walter Hudson over what this tax incentive for parents

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Speaker 1: with school children what actually go and do. Here's the

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Speaker 1: audio from the post from the Minnesota DFL.

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Speaker 12: Good News and bad news from Minnesota's public schools.

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Speaker 2: Let's do the bad news first.

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Speaker 12: Republicans in the legislature are added again to bring private

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Speaker 12: school of vouchers to our state, and at a time

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Speaker 12: when our public systems are being attacked and defunded, my colleague,

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Speaker 12: Representative Andrew Myers is fighting for handouts to rich families

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Speaker 12: who already send their kids to private schools. When Republicans

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Speaker 12: show you who they are, believe them. Handing out tax

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Speaker 12: breaks to the wealthiest among us at the expense of

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Speaker 12: everyday kids earning a public education is ridiculous, especially now

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Speaker 12: when families are struggling to even put food on the

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Speaker 12: table and pay their bills. These vouchers would be a

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Speaker 12: disaster for our schools, our state, and our students. But

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Speaker 12: here's the good news. Dfllers will never let this happen.

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Speaker 12: We're firmly committed to supporting and funding our state's public schools,

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Speaker 12: and we've shown it time and time again. We invest

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Speaker 12: in our students' futures, support our teachers, and set up

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Speaker 12: our schools to succeed. Our proposals this year support our

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Speaker 12: schools while the GOP tries to use public money for

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Speaker 12: private ventures and you have my word. Democrats will fight

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Speaker 12: this proposal, and we will continue to defend Minnesota's public

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Speaker 12: schools and support all of our state students, not just

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Speaker 12: the ones who were born with rich parents or go

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Speaker 12: to select private schools. It's just wild to me the

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Speaker 12: Republicans are spending more time trying to get kids out

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Speaker 12: of public schools than trying to get Ice out of

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Speaker 12: public schools.

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Speaker 2: Ice was never in public schools.

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Speaker 1: First off, Luke Scott, Walker's getting a work out this morning.

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Speaker 6: Every word of what you just said, that's wrong.

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Speaker 2: Here's the thing about women and women are insane.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and Representative Sidney Jordan certainly fits that.

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Speaker 2: Bill.

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Speaker 1: Let's make this easier for you that minute thirty of

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Speaker 1: garbage nonsense. Walter Hudson puts it really succinctly on X

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Speaker 1: Would you write a seventeen hundred dollars check to your

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Speaker 1: school if you got that money back on your tax return?

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Speaker 1: Of course you would, but Walls won't let you. This

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Speaker 1: story was everywhere on social media, the DFL commenting on it,

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Speaker 1: the GOP commenting on it, and yet I didn't see

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Speaker 1: a single story at the time when I was prepping

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Speaker 1: this morning. So Max Reimer testifying during the legislative session.

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Speaker 1: I will share with you what he had to say,

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Speaker 1: but he writes in conjunction with the audio coming up

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Speaker 1: in just a moment, he says, hang with me.

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Speaker 2: The federal government.

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Speaker 1: Created a tax credit scholarship program the states can use

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Speaker 1: to participate in. If the state opts in, taxpayers can

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Speaker 1: donate money to approved scholarship granting organizations and receive a

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Speaker 1: dollar for dollar federal tax crew up to seventeen hundred dollars,

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Speaker 1: and then that money goes to students in private and

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Speaker 1: public schools. If Minnesota doesn't opt into this, that support

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Speaker 1: is going to Colorado or Virginia. It is the easiest

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Speaker 1: vote in the world. And Democrats, Walls included, said no,

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Speaker 1: and Max goes on to right uniformly, I don't even

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Speaker 1: think they know why that's what this does. But again,

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Speaker 1: just really quick and I'll play Max's comments. Listen to

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Speaker 1: the way that Sidney Jordan describes what I just mentioned.

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Speaker 1: It is a federal government created tax credit scholarship program.

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Speaker 1: You opt in. The federal government provides the funding. Taxpayers

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Speaker 1: donate their own money to approve scholarship granting organizations and

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Speaker 1: then get a tax credit at the end of the year.

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Speaker 1: This has no impact on anybody else, doesn't impact you,

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Speaker 1: does it impact me. It only impacts the individual donating

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Speaker 1: the money up front, who ends up getting that back.

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Speaker 1: And then we get dollars from the federal government. And

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Speaker 1: yet listen to the lie that is spewed by Representative

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Speaker 1: Sidney Jordan.

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Speaker 12: Good news and bad news from Minnesota's public schools. Let's

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Speaker 12: do the bad news first, Republicans in the legislature are

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Speaker 12: added again to bring private school vouchers to our estates.

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Speaker 2: That's not what this is.

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Speaker 12: And at a time when our public systems are being

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Speaker 12: attacked and defunded, my colleague, Representative Andrew Myers is fighting

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Speaker 12: for handouts to rich families who already send their kids

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Speaker 12: to private schools.

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Speaker 2: You don't have to be rich to do this.

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Speaker 1: You get that money back, the schools get the money.

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Speaker 1: They have absolutely no shame whatsoever, just lying straight to

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Speaker 1: your face. But to the broken and brainwashed on the left,

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Speaker 1: they'll grab the biggest spoon.

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Speaker 2: Possible and gulp down the lies.

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Speaker 1: Here's Max Rymer on the House floor talking about the

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Speaker 1: very issue as they were debating it.

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Speaker 4: This bill forward.

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Speaker 17: I think it's been said before but I just wanted

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Speaker 17: to clarify. Would this bill prevent an organization like Education

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Speaker 17: Minnesota from setting up an SGO, should they so choose?

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Speaker 4: Represented Myers. Yeah, I don't believe it would. Representative Thank you,

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Speaker 4: mister chair.

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Speaker 17: And then the follow up question, did you personally call

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Speaker 17: President Trump to orchestrate how this tax credit would work?

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Speaker 4: Represented Meyer?

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Speaker 2: Absolutely not.

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Speaker 4: Yeah I thought so. I think your represented Myers.

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Speaker 17: And you know, my predecessor and new Brindley said pretty

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Speaker 17: often got known for it that this is bonkers, and

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Speaker 17: this is bonkers what I'm hearing today, because this is

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Speaker 17: the framework by which we operate by I hear and

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Speaker 17: I've heard a lot of navel gazing about. I wish

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Speaker 17: the federal government did it this way. I wish the

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Speaker 17: federal government would prioritize this. Well, none of us have,

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Speaker 17: to my knowledge, President Trump's phone number to give him

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Speaker 17: a call and say, hey, I wish it would have worked.

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Speaker 17: This is the state level of framework by which we

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Speaker 17: have to work off of to get money not only

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Speaker 17: into public schools, but any child who needs it. Right now,

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Speaker 17: we are putting children in this political battle that we're

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Speaker 17: trying to have that we have no control over It's

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Speaker 17: been said multiple times that this money is going out anyway,

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Speaker 17: so why would we not take advantage of it? And

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Speaker 17: then I've heard a number of times there's almost soft

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Speaker 17: bigotry of low expectations that our public schools cannot compete

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Speaker 17: for these dollars. Well, just in this very committee, tell

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Speaker 17: that to the to my teacher apprenticeship program in North Branch,

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Speaker 17: which was spearheaded by Representative Clarity and Representative Mueller, that

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Speaker 17: they have spun off a teacher apprenticeship program that is

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Speaker 17: remarkable a positives.

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Speaker 1: Briefly, I want to get to a few of your

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Speaker 1: comments from the iHeartRadio app. But again, all this is

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Speaker 1: you write a seventeen hundred dollars check to your school,

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Speaker 1: and you get that money back on your tax return,

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Speaker 1: and the school gets the money a dollar for dollar

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Speaker 1: federal tax credit. And if Minnesota doesn't opt in, those

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Speaker 1: dollars go someplace else. And yet you had Sidney Jordan

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Speaker 1: in that piece complaining about schools being underfunded. This is

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Speaker 1: a possibility to give schools thousands of dollars, and they

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Speaker 1: would rather lie than to allow what they view as

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Speaker 1: any GOP proposal move forward.

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Speaker 2: Hey, John Bruce, Shackby.

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Speaker 11: You know what's really funny how she talks about getting

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Speaker 11: rich people the ability to send their kids to private

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Speaker 11: schools that are already going there. Well, they had no

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Speaker 11: qualms about giving rich kids free meals at breakfasts and

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Speaker 11: lunch and schools.

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Speaker 2: What's changed. Have a good day.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, there's plenty of rich families out there that can absolutely,

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Speaker 1: absolutely afford to feed their kids in schools, and yet

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Speaker 1: they too enjoyed the free school meals program as well.

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Speaker 18: I just can't listen to this lady talk about public schools.

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Speaker 18: There's a reason that people want to send their kids

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Speaker 18: to private school. You don't learn anything in public school anymore.

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Speaker 18: We throw all this money at it, and it does

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Speaker 18: nothing to help our kids.

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Speaker 19: I'd like to tell that idiot that just viewed that

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Speaker 19: crap for thirty seconds.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I am not rich.

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Speaker 19: We're not rich.

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Speaker 4: We put our.

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Speaker 19: Kids through private school because our public schools were so crappy.

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Speaker 19: That and we struggle to do that while still paying

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Speaker 19: our taxes to fund those crappy schools. So she can

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Speaker 19: shove us.

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Speaker 13: This is Tim from Blaine. The reason that Democrats don't

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Speaker 13: want us to have that school grand thing is because

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Speaker 13: then kids will get put in private schools and they

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Speaker 13: won't build and document them and make them hate America.

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Speaker 2: Like yep, here's more from Max Rymer. And tell that

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Speaker 2: to the kids.

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Speaker 17: Who do the door knocking with Domino's cards to raise

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Speaker 17: program funds for their wrestling team. This idea that public

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Speaker 17: schools cannot compete, or that somehow private schools are going

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Speaker 17: to monopolize this process, I don't believe it, because I

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Speaker 17: have some plenty of organization from our public schools, even

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Speaker 17: at this capital. The last thing I'll say is that

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Speaker 17: in Forest Lake we have Lakes International Language Academy, and

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Speaker 17: a lot of my constituents kids go to that school,

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Speaker 17: and it's a wonderful school.

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Speaker 4: I think a few of you are familiar with it,

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Speaker 4: and I.

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Speaker 17: Think it needs to be said that these charter schools

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Speaker 17: are also public schools, but they don't have levy authority.

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Speaker 4: So what could money if they.

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Speaker 17: Choose to get organized, spin up an sgo what money?

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Speaker 17: What difference could this money make in a situation like that.

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Speaker 17: We're talking about property poor districts, We're talking about no

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Speaker 17: levy authority, We're talking about still public school support for

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Speaker 17: these children. This is a critical moment, and I think

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Speaker 17: people look at us down at the Capitol and are

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Speaker 17: oftentimes like, why can't you Why can't you guys do

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Speaker 17: common sense things? And what could be more common sense

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Speaker 17: than this to say, the money's getting spent anyway, we.

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Speaker 4: Should have a piece of that pie.

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Speaker 17: That should not be sent to Colorado, that money should

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Speaker 17: not be sent to Virginia, that money should stay here.

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Speaker 4: I agree with a lot of.

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Speaker 17: The comments that have been made before that either collectively

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Speaker 17: we're misunderstanding this bill or there's been misrepresentation. But to me,

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Speaker 17: this seems like unless you have Representative Meyers, Donald Trump's

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Speaker 17: phone number, we can call him right now. This seems

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Speaker 17: like the common sense thing to do.

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Speaker 4: Thank you. No, it's complete.

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Speaker 1: It is complete misrepresentation, all because it's being proposed by Republicans,

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Speaker 1: even though Democrats can go and take advantage of this

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Speaker 1: as well, and the goal to talk about money being spent,

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Speaker 1: rich individuals being you know, are the only ones taking

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Speaker 1: advantage of this. Any Democrat talking about fiscal responsibility can

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Speaker 1: simply just shove it.

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Speaker 2: I'll give you the examples. Coming up.

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Speaker 1: A new bill proposes a constitutional sales tax hike to

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Speaker 1: fund affordability. This is beyond the already enacted tax hike.

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Speaker 1: In twenty twenty three, you have forty million dollars being

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Speaker 1: proposed in rental assistant bailouts. Wait until you hear what

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Speaker 1: the Minnesota Chamber of Commerce has to say about the

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Speaker 1: businesses that have been dealing with two and a half

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Speaker 1: months of paid family medical leave, the vehicle tabs being quintupled.

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Speaker 1: Governor Tim Walls wants to spend upwards of sixty five million,

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Speaker 1: one hundred million dollars on his new fraud cover up program,

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Speaker 1: and they're talking about fiscal responsibility. Our three comes up

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Speaker 1: in just a moment, and more of your talkbacks as

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Speaker 1: well here on Twin City's News Talk.

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Speaker 4: Good Morning, John.

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Speaker 11: In response to the legislator's statements on.

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Speaker 3: Having to be rich to go to a private school,

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Speaker 3: that's not true.

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Speaker 6: I was one of five kids who was sent to

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Speaker 6: private school, and my parents did so on a

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Speaker 3: Very limited income, and they did so because they knew

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Speaker 3: how important that education would be for us in the future.