1 00:00:00,840 --> 00:00:02,239 Speaker 1: But the Penguins at the Big Store. 2 00:00:04,280 --> 00:00:06,240 Speaker 2: He blew a five to one lead on Saturday and 3 00:00:06,240 --> 00:00:08,960 Speaker 2: lost to San Jose in overtime. That's five to one 4 00:00:09,039 --> 00:00:12,159 Speaker 2: with like fourteen minutes left. You blew a three z 5 00:00:12,360 --> 00:00:15,480 Speaker 2: lead yesterday and lost to Utah in overtime. It was 6 00:00:15,520 --> 00:00:18,680 Speaker 2: three in IL at the end of two periods, and 7 00:00:18,720 --> 00:00:19,520 Speaker 2: you've lost now. 8 00:00:19,520 --> 00:00:22,239 Speaker 1: Five in a row, albeit four with loser points. 9 00:00:23,920 --> 00:00:27,920 Speaker 2: He blew the lead with point one second left against 10 00:00:28,000 --> 00:00:31,400 Speaker 2: Anaheim and in the final two minutes of Dallas also, 11 00:00:32,280 --> 00:00:35,960 Speaker 2: So it just keeps happening. And now it's in their blood, 12 00:00:36,520 --> 00:00:39,320 Speaker 2: it's in their DNA. You can feel it coming. You 13 00:00:39,320 --> 00:00:42,199 Speaker 2: could feel it on Saturday, you could feel it on 14 00:00:42,280 --> 00:00:46,400 Speaker 2: Sunday that once the opposition got started, the Penguins did 15 00:00:46,400 --> 00:00:49,400 Speaker 2: not have the wherewithal to start them. At one point 16 00:00:49,440 --> 00:00:52,720 Speaker 2: I wondered aloud, well on Twitter if I would fire 17 00:00:52,760 --> 00:00:56,360 Speaker 2: the coach, Dan Muse, But I wouldn't. This is on 18 00:00:56,440 --> 00:00:59,880 Speaker 2: the players sit after the game. He was talking about 19 00:01:00,400 --> 00:01:04,520 Speaker 2: breaks and bounces. Maybe he talked differently to the team 20 00:01:04,840 --> 00:01:08,560 Speaker 2: behind closed doors. I hope so, because what somebody should 21 00:01:08,600 --> 00:01:11,440 Speaker 2: say is that what's going on as horseman nor and 22 00:01:11,560 --> 00:01:17,319 Speaker 2: utterly unacceptable because there's a lot of reasons, like the 23 00:01:17,360 --> 00:01:22,440 Speaker 2: Penguins never stop attacking, they never managed scoring situation, and 24 00:01:22,480 --> 00:01:25,480 Speaker 2: when they did deign to do that these last two games, 25 00:01:25,760 --> 00:01:28,039 Speaker 2: it was too late. The other team's push was on 26 00:01:28,840 --> 00:01:31,880 Speaker 2: and the Penguins could handle it. The defensive court was 27 00:01:31,880 --> 00:01:34,680 Speaker 2: supposed to be terrible for a while, it wasn't, and 28 00:01:34,720 --> 00:01:38,919 Speaker 2: now it is. The goaltending has been awful during this streak, 29 00:01:38,920 --> 00:01:44,319 Speaker 2: and then includes Morrischev. Yesterday the savior moving forward, Morischoff 30 00:01:44,400 --> 00:01:45,839 Speaker 2: made a lot of saves. 31 00:01:47,040 --> 00:01:47,800 Speaker 1: And the Penguin was good. 32 00:01:47,800 --> 00:01:50,200 Speaker 2: I played up till it was three and il, but 33 00:01:50,240 --> 00:01:53,840 Speaker 2: allowing four goals in the third period is unacceptable. In fact, 34 00:01:53,880 --> 00:01:56,200 Speaker 2: it was four goals in a little over seven minutes. 35 00:01:56,880 --> 00:02:00,160 Speaker 2: And it ain't the kid screwed it up. It's it's 36 00:02:00,160 --> 00:02:04,080 Speaker 2: the old slow veterans, and it's the star veterans who 37 00:02:04,080 --> 00:02:06,120 Speaker 2: should know better, who were staying out on the ice 38 00:02:06,160 --> 00:02:08,760 Speaker 2: too long and kind of lurking for empty that goal 39 00:02:08,919 --> 00:02:12,200 Speaker 2: sometimes instead of trying to protect the lead. But to 40 00:02:12,240 --> 00:02:16,960 Speaker 2: be honest, it doesn't matter why this is happening, it 41 00:02:17,160 --> 00:02:20,680 Speaker 2: just is. It's tough to say this because right now 42 00:02:20,680 --> 00:02:22,640 Speaker 2: the Penguins are just one point out of a wild 43 00:02:22,680 --> 00:02:26,480 Speaker 2: card spot and dig this. Wow, they have the fewest 44 00:02:26,520 --> 00:02:31,560 Speaker 2: losses in regulation in the Eastern Conference. But if the 45 00:02:31,560 --> 00:02:35,359 Speaker 2: Penguins can't pick it up in soon and get themselves 46 00:02:36,440 --> 00:02:39,440 Speaker 2: as safely as could be expected in sconsin a playoff 47 00:02:39,480 --> 00:02:42,720 Speaker 2: spot and soon, they need to look at trading Rustin 48 00:02:42,840 --> 00:02:46,600 Speaker 2: Raquel and Carlson and not indulging this fantasy that they 49 00:02:46,600 --> 00:02:50,640 Speaker 2: could make the playoffs and win series. Move forward, because 50 00:02:50,720 --> 00:02:54,920 Speaker 2: right now this team is proving it's not capable for 51 00:02:55,040 --> 00:03:00,320 Speaker 2: what they hope. Now, can they reverse what's going on quickly? Well, 52 00:03:00,400 --> 00:03:03,800 Speaker 2: Edmonton's in town on Tuesday. Maybe the Penguins will rise 53 00:03:03,840 --> 00:03:07,760 Speaker 2: to the occasion, or maybe Jari will shut them out 54 00:03:07,760 --> 00:03:11,120 Speaker 2: of McDavid will get nine points. That's tomorrow night at 55 00:03:11,160 --> 00:03:14,440 Speaker 2: PPG Paints Serena. Good tickets are still available and I 56 00:03:14,480 --> 00:03:18,000 Speaker 2: think you should go because Sid needs just two points 57 00:03:18,600 --> 00:03:23,520 Speaker 2: to tie Mariol of you for the Penguins all time 58 00:03:23,520 --> 00:03:26,720 Speaker 2: franchise lead. In fact, let's stick with that because boy, 59 00:03:27,520 --> 00:03:30,280 Speaker 2: like Jab and I were talking about, that is a 60 00:03:30,280 --> 00:03:33,400 Speaker 2: big deal. Hey, Mario was the best hockey player ever. 61 00:03:34,160 --> 00:03:36,720 Speaker 2: B Mario battled illness and injury, but Sid had the 62 00:03:36,720 --> 00:03:41,720 Speaker 2: concussion thing. See sid got to these numbers by being 63 00:03:41,840 --> 00:03:46,680 Speaker 2: the most consistent player in hockey history. D I never 64 00:03:46,720 --> 00:03:49,080 Speaker 2: thought I'd say anyone besides Gretzky and Orr are in 65 00:03:49,120 --> 00:03:54,360 Speaker 2: a class with Mario. But Sidney Crosby is Sidney Crosby 66 00:03:54,840 --> 00:03:58,880 Speaker 2: decidedly is Mario has been at the games lately. He'll 67 00:03:58,880 --> 00:04:01,640 Speaker 2: be there tomorrow night. I'm in case Sid breaks the record. 68 00:04:02,000 --> 00:04:04,960 Speaker 2: That's gonna be a cool moment. And it's cool because 69 00:04:05,000 --> 00:04:08,360 Speaker 2: the Penguins are a Champagne franchise. It's not like you're 70 00:04:08,400 --> 00:04:11,240 Speaker 2: the all time leading score for Saint Louis or the 71 00:04:11,280 --> 00:04:13,880 Speaker 2: Devils at Carolina. I don't even know who those jamokes 72 00:04:13,920 --> 00:04:17,839 Speaker 2: would be. So a way to go, Sid, and this 73 00:04:18,160 --> 00:04:21,279 Speaker 2: is a decidedly big deal. 74 00:04:22,760 --> 00:04:22,880 Speaker 3: Uh. 75 00:04:23,600 --> 00:04:26,320 Speaker 2: JB and I talked about the Penguins goaltending for a bit. 76 00:04:27,400 --> 00:04:29,880 Speaker 2: Morrishaff I mean, I think the kid is the future. 77 00:04:30,760 --> 00:04:34,200 Speaker 2: I think he is a star level goalie and he's 78 00:04:34,240 --> 00:04:37,800 Speaker 2: played mostly pretty good in his two stints up here 79 00:04:37,839 --> 00:04:41,680 Speaker 2: this year. He went back to Wilkes today because Skinner 80 00:04:41,720 --> 00:04:44,200 Speaker 2: got cleared by immigration to join the roster. So did 81 00:04:44,200 --> 00:04:47,479 Speaker 2: the defenseman that the Penguins got from Edmonton, Brett Kulak. 82 00:04:48,720 --> 00:04:51,800 Speaker 2: But his first stay here, morrishov let up a disappointing 83 00:04:51,839 --> 00:04:56,200 Speaker 2: overtime goal, and he did so again yesterday. I got 84 00:04:56,240 --> 00:05:01,040 Speaker 2: no problem with Stuart Skinner and Edmonton. They blame Stuart 85 00:05:01,040 --> 00:05:04,680 Speaker 2: Skinner for losing two State Stanley Cup finals, but at 86 00:05:04,760 --> 00:05:07,360 Speaker 2: Edmonton they forgot how to win a long time ago. 87 00:05:07,839 --> 00:05:10,680 Speaker 1: The team and the fans they plumb forgot. Here's how 88 00:05:10,720 --> 00:05:11,280 Speaker 1: I see it. 89 00:05:11,960 --> 00:05:16,599 Speaker 2: Skinner played in the last two Stanley Cup finals, him 90 00:05:16,640 --> 00:05:21,680 Speaker 2: and Bobrowski from Florida. The rest of the league's goaltenders didn't. 91 00:05:22,560 --> 00:05:28,000 Speaker 2: Tristan Jari certainly didn't. Archer Schiloff certainly didn't. So I 92 00:05:28,160 --> 00:05:34,360 Speaker 2: believe in Stuart Skinner. Say his name and he appears. 93 00:05:35,120 --> 00:05:39,160 Speaker 2: Uh eight three to three four one two w xdx 94 00:05:39,240 --> 00:05:42,880 Speaker 2: the number to call for calls on the fifteens. It's 95 00:05:42,920 --> 00:05:47,160 Speaker 2: the let's see if I can remember, it's the sports 96 00:05:47,240 --> 00:05:53,000 Speaker 2: talk craze that's sweeping the nation. Audience participation, that's a 97 00:05:53,240 --> 00:05:56,640 Speaker 2: radio sensation, that's talks on the calls on the fifteens. 98 00:05:57,279 --> 00:05:59,880 Speaker 2: Call now at eight three three four one two wxdx. 99 00:06:00,640 --> 00:06:02,719 Speaker 2: We could just babble on, and I'm sure we will 100 00:06:03,800 --> 00:06:06,600 Speaker 2: about the Steelers game tonight. I think anybody who goes 101 00:06:06,640 --> 00:06:09,760 Speaker 2: as stupid in nine degree, whether we had some more 102 00:06:09,800 --> 00:06:12,480 Speaker 2: on call before who was getting ready to tailgate outside, 103 00:06:12,760 --> 00:06:16,520 Speaker 2: total idiot, probably gonna drink a bunch of cold beers 104 00:06:16,520 --> 00:06:21,720 Speaker 2: and pass out from hypothermia. I think the Steelers should 105 00:06:21,720 --> 00:06:23,599 Speaker 2: win this game tonight. It's far from a lock, but 106 00:06:23,640 --> 00:06:25,960 Speaker 2: I think if they get a lead and Miami has 107 00:06:26,040 --> 00:06:28,280 Speaker 2: to put the game into his hand, that'll be a 108 00:06:28,320 --> 00:06:38,239 Speaker 2: fade a compley. I talked earlier about the possibility to TJ. 109 00:06:38,400 --> 00:06:42,640 Speaker 2: Watt sues the Steelers over the try needling thing, the 110 00:06:42,680 --> 00:06:45,960 Speaker 2: punctured lung thing as administered by a team physician, and 111 00:06:46,000 --> 00:06:49,080 Speaker 2: ain't nobody talking about it here or nationally because the 112 00:06:49,120 --> 00:06:52,360 Speaker 2: Steelers are this sacred cole, but right now they are 113 00:06:52,440 --> 00:06:56,280 Speaker 2: just a crap organization, and this sacred cole should make 114 00:06:56,640 --> 00:07:02,039 Speaker 2: good hamburger for somebody besides me. Uh. Just the way 115 00:07:02,320 --> 00:07:05,240 Speaker 2: the official statement, the closest thing to one, came from 116 00:07:05,360 --> 00:07:10,440 Speaker 2: JJ Watt. It then challenged the Steelers. It just stated facts. 117 00:07:10,920 --> 00:07:14,480 Speaker 2: TJ's wife did kind of the same thing on Instagram, 118 00:07:15,240 --> 00:07:17,080 Speaker 2: and the Steelers I don't think they put out an 119 00:07:17,080 --> 00:07:20,520 Speaker 2: official statement aside from what being unavailable for tonight's game, 120 00:07:20,960 --> 00:07:23,320 Speaker 2: Tomlin said he didn't know what was going on, which 121 00:07:23,360 --> 00:07:25,360 Speaker 2: is just a bold faced pie. But I will say this, 122 00:07:25,400 --> 00:07:28,000 Speaker 2: over the years, Tomlin and the Steelers have proven to 123 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:32,200 Speaker 2: be really good at lying. But the Steelers, they mismanage 124 00:07:32,200 --> 00:07:36,240 Speaker 2: a lot of decisions, make bad decisions. And here's the 125 00:07:36,280 --> 00:07:38,480 Speaker 2: one that's more football orient and one of the worst 126 00:07:38,480 --> 00:07:43,320 Speaker 2: decisions they've made is the myth of Mount Washington. They 127 00:07:43,360 --> 00:07:45,440 Speaker 2: got two legit tight ends who put up numbers in 128 00:07:45,480 --> 00:07:48,640 Speaker 2: their careers, John Euan Mouth, and they don't play him. Instead, 129 00:07:48,680 --> 00:07:52,360 Speaker 2: they played the big fats because he can block. Except 130 00:07:52,360 --> 00:07:55,280 Speaker 2: the running game still ain't no good. And the Steelers 131 00:07:55,360 --> 00:07:58,200 Speaker 2: quit on a constantly, and they used the jumbo package too, 132 00:07:58,560 --> 00:08:01,080 Speaker 2: and the running games still ain't no good, Still can't 133 00:08:01,120 --> 00:08:03,880 Speaker 2: run the ball, still don't try, still don't stick to it. 134 00:08:04,120 --> 00:08:07,160 Speaker 2: And yet they stick with Mount Washington because of a 135 00:08:07,320 --> 00:08:09,960 Speaker 2: viral moment. And that's all he's done this year. It 136 00:08:10,040 --> 00:08:15,520 Speaker 2: is just purely idiotic. All right, we got scooching Dawn 137 00:08:15,640 --> 00:08:17,680 Speaker 2: on hold for calls on the fifteen. We'll get to 138 00:08:17,720 --> 00:08:20,920 Speaker 2: them just around the corner. You can call now and 139 00:08:20,960 --> 00:08:25,440 Speaker 2: get in line, just like that go Go song. That's 140 00:08:25,480 --> 00:08:28,440 Speaker 2: when they get in line. I keep I keep singing. 141 00:08:28,560 --> 00:08:35,080 Speaker 2: I watched Spinal Tap two again last night, no yesterday, 142 00:08:35,120 --> 00:08:39,160 Speaker 2: before the Pengala game, Rob Reiner's last movie, and it's 143 00:08:39,200 --> 00:08:42,680 Speaker 2: really good. I keep singing this song, Bitch Skull, time 144 00:08:42,760 --> 00:08:45,320 Speaker 2: to give that whip a crack. I'm gonna have to 145 00:08:45,400 --> 00:08:50,160 Speaker 2: send you back to Bitch Skull. There are great heavy 146 00:08:50,240 --> 00:08:53,520 Speaker 2: metal songs in that movie, which makes the parody all 147 00:08:53,559 --> 00:08:57,840 Speaker 2: the more funny. Bitch School, What Oh five ninety X 148 00:08:58,000 --> 00:09:00,720 Speaker 2: love Spinal Tap, It's time for call was on the fifteen. 149 00:09:00,840 --> 00:09:05,440 Speaker 2: Let's go to Scoot Scoots rung with double M What man? 150 00:09:06,840 --> 00:09:10,760 Speaker 3: Would you agree that Roman Wilson taking a back seat 151 00:09:10,840 --> 00:09:13,880 Speaker 3: for two has been receivers in their thirties just shows 152 00:09:13,920 --> 00:09:16,120 Speaker 3: you how incompidently this organization is run. 153 00:09:16,200 --> 00:09:19,439 Speaker 1: Well, it's incompetent for one of two reasons. 154 00:09:19,679 --> 00:09:21,640 Speaker 2: Uh. One is that he's no good, But then they 155 00:09:21,760 --> 00:09:24,520 Speaker 2: drafted him in the third round just last year, just 156 00:09:24,559 --> 00:09:26,800 Speaker 2: like they drafted Caleb Johnson this year and they barely 157 00:09:26,880 --> 00:09:29,960 Speaker 2: use him, although that could change tonight if Jalen Warren 158 00:09:29,960 --> 00:09:34,360 Speaker 2: misses the game Dude illness, or they haven't properly developed 159 00:09:34,480 --> 00:09:38,360 Speaker 2: Roman Wilson, or they're letting Aaron Rodgers dictate that he 160 00:09:38,440 --> 00:09:41,560 Speaker 2: wants old guys out there, old, older, oldest, like this 161 00:09:41,720 --> 00:09:43,040 Speaker 2: fossil Adam Thielen. 162 00:09:45,400 --> 00:09:46,640 Speaker 4: It's so infuriating. 163 00:09:47,320 --> 00:09:49,040 Speaker 3: People think they're a well run organization. 164 00:09:49,400 --> 00:09:50,840 Speaker 4: I just don't think they've been well. 165 00:09:50,960 --> 00:09:51,640 Speaker 1: Horribly run. 166 00:09:51,679 --> 00:09:54,240 Speaker 2: The Steelers have been horribly run for years, ever since 167 00:09:54,280 --> 00:09:58,079 Speaker 2: tomlin usurped all the power from Colbert, and really Colbert 168 00:09:58,120 --> 00:10:01,079 Speaker 2: never had any It goes back to and Kyrie usurped 169 00:10:01,080 --> 00:10:03,400 Speaker 2: all the power from Tom Donaho the GM. 170 00:10:03,480 --> 00:10:07,679 Speaker 3: Then it's most like Gorbachev in the final years of 171 00:10:07,720 --> 00:10:08,440 Speaker 3: the Iron Curtain. 172 00:10:09,760 --> 00:10:12,480 Speaker 2: You get that feeling, hey, except for the except for 173 00:10:12,480 --> 00:10:14,000 Speaker 2: the blemish on the head. 174 00:10:14,080 --> 00:10:16,600 Speaker 1: Let's go to Nick in the truck. Nick, you're on 175 00:10:16,679 --> 00:10:17,280 Speaker 1: with double. 176 00:10:17,160 --> 00:10:20,720 Speaker 3: M Hey, Mark, I actually take a different approach. I 177 00:10:20,720 --> 00:10:23,199 Speaker 3: do not think the Steelers have a well run organization. 178 00:10:23,360 --> 00:10:25,600 Speaker 3: But you put it out there about Aaron Rodgers, whether 179 00:10:25,640 --> 00:10:29,280 Speaker 3: it was a good choice. I do truly believe that 180 00:10:29,360 --> 00:10:31,160 Speaker 3: he was our absolute best option. 181 00:10:31,960 --> 00:10:34,000 Speaker 1: Okay, okay, to do what to do well? 182 00:10:35,200 --> 00:10:35,360 Speaker 2: Well? 183 00:10:35,520 --> 00:10:40,240 Speaker 3: Number One, you said the other day Aaron Rodgers taking over. 184 00:10:40,280 --> 00:10:41,840 Speaker 3: In fact, you just said it a couple of minutes ago. 185 00:10:42,320 --> 00:10:45,640 Speaker 3: Is that necessarily a bad thing? I believe he's okay. 186 00:10:45,400 --> 00:10:47,640 Speaker 2: But you're not answering my question. What what was the 187 00:10:47,679 --> 00:10:51,040 Speaker 2: goal when he took over? I think what was the 188 00:10:51,040 --> 00:10:53,400 Speaker 2: goal when they signed? What was the goal when? 189 00:10:53,440 --> 00:10:53,520 Speaker 3: No? 190 00:10:53,679 --> 00:10:56,280 Speaker 2: No, you see, you're not listening to the question. What 191 00:10:56,360 --> 00:10:58,120 Speaker 2: was the goal when he took over? What was the 192 00:10:58,200 --> 00:10:59,679 Speaker 2: level of accomplishment hope. 193 00:10:59,520 --> 00:11:03,559 Speaker 3: For I'm sorry, Yeah, you're right, trying to win a 194 00:11:03,559 --> 00:11:04,120 Speaker 3: playoff game? 195 00:11:04,160 --> 00:11:05,120 Speaker 1: You think it's gonna happen. 196 00:11:06,760 --> 00:11:07,280 Speaker 4: I don't know. 197 00:11:07,600 --> 00:11:09,520 Speaker 3: I think he's their best option, That's what I'm trying 198 00:11:09,520 --> 00:11:09,760 Speaker 3: to say. 199 00:11:09,800 --> 00:11:12,360 Speaker 2: But if you want to set the bar that low, 200 00:11:12,440 --> 00:11:14,719 Speaker 2: I suppose an old bastard like him bringing in a 201 00:11:14,720 --> 00:11:17,480 Speaker 2: whole bunch of other old bastards like Theiland. I guess 202 00:11:17,480 --> 00:11:19,520 Speaker 2: that is your best option until it doesn't work. 203 00:11:20,640 --> 00:11:24,520 Speaker 3: Would you say that he is the best football IQ, 204 00:11:24,800 --> 00:11:28,760 Speaker 3: including all the staff on that team. 205 00:11:28,800 --> 00:11:31,400 Speaker 2: If so, it's by default, and I'm not impressed. I'm 206 00:11:31,440 --> 00:11:33,640 Speaker 2: not impressed when you got the fat kid at tight end, 207 00:11:33,679 --> 00:11:36,200 Speaker 2: which seems to be his preference. I'm not impressed when 208 00:11:36,240 --> 00:11:38,960 Speaker 2: you have feeling an MVS out there, which is his preference. 209 00:11:39,880 --> 00:11:41,960 Speaker 3: That brings up another point. You've been asking who would 210 00:11:42,000 --> 00:11:46,400 Speaker 3: be the offensive MVP. Would you say, if Friar Mooth 211 00:11:46,559 --> 00:11:49,480 Speaker 3: actually was able to play, he would most likely be 212 00:11:49,559 --> 00:11:51,360 Speaker 3: the MVP because he's been pretty clutch. 213 00:11:51,720 --> 00:11:54,240 Speaker 2: You know what's funny, Friar Mooth went from being totally 214 00:11:54,320 --> 00:11:56,959 Speaker 2: overrated by this team to being put on the pay 215 00:11:57,080 --> 00:11:59,400 Speaker 2: No Mind list. It's quite a drop, but he got 216 00:11:59,400 --> 00:11:59,800 Speaker 2: the money. 217 00:12:01,320 --> 00:12:03,880 Speaker 3: Yes, but I think he would be the MVP if 218 00:12:03,880 --> 00:12:05,320 Speaker 3: he actually was able to play. 219 00:12:05,520 --> 00:12:08,360 Speaker 2: I think right now the offensive MVP, if it's not Rogers, 220 00:12:08,440 --> 00:12:11,839 Speaker 2: which again would be by default, it might be Ciamalo 221 00:12:12,360 --> 00:12:14,480 Speaker 2: And that says a lot about Camalo and his role 222 00:12:14,480 --> 00:12:18,120 Speaker 2: into making that offensive line at least pretty good. But 223 00:12:18,200 --> 00:12:22,240 Speaker 2: when you're left guards at MVP candidate Holy Moses. 224 00:12:22,920 --> 00:12:25,760 Speaker 3: Would you say that Aaron Rodgers lost any games for 225 00:12:25,800 --> 00:12:28,439 Speaker 3: the Steelers. 226 00:12:28,320 --> 00:12:31,280 Speaker 1: Well, he was so bad in the LA game they 227 00:12:31,280 --> 00:12:32,120 Speaker 1: didn't have a chance. 228 00:12:33,920 --> 00:12:36,040 Speaker 3: The thing that upsets me about the LA game is 229 00:12:36,080 --> 00:12:39,920 Speaker 3: if you notice whenever last week, those same passes are 230 00:12:40,080 --> 00:12:42,400 Speaker 3: exact on target. Do you think that was a Rogers 231 00:12:42,440 --> 00:12:45,280 Speaker 3: thing or was that a miscommunication with the receivers. 232 00:12:45,320 --> 00:12:47,320 Speaker 2: I just don't think Rogers is that good anymore, and 233 00:12:47,360 --> 00:12:50,080 Speaker 2: I think you're far overestimating him when you blame everything 234 00:12:50,080 --> 00:12:53,520 Speaker 2: he does wrong on somebody else, which, whether subconsciously or not, 235 00:12:53,640 --> 00:12:55,080 Speaker 2: is exactly what you've done. 236 00:12:55,360 --> 00:12:57,120 Speaker 1: What do you think their record would be right now 237 00:12:57,120 --> 00:12:58,960 Speaker 1: with Mason Rudolph? 238 00:12:59,240 --> 00:13:01,400 Speaker 3: I think we would have lost two or three more games. 239 00:13:01,520 --> 00:13:03,760 Speaker 1: That's good, get a better draft pick. Thanks for the call. 240 00:13:04,360 --> 00:13:06,200 Speaker 2: Let's go to Don in Bethel Park, Gone, you're on 241 00:13:06,240 --> 00:13:11,480 Speaker 2: with double muy. 242 00:13:11,559 --> 00:13:15,079 Speaker 5: What do you think the one driving factor is with 243 00:13:15,120 --> 00:13:19,319 Speaker 5: this Penguin ineptitude in both the shootouts and overtime, particularly 244 00:13:19,360 --> 00:13:21,880 Speaker 5: on overtime, because at first I thought, okay, it's the 245 00:13:21,880 --> 00:13:24,720 Speaker 5: face off, but if you watch, we win a good 246 00:13:24,760 --> 00:13:26,679 Speaker 5: bit of that initial face They just. 247 00:13:26,679 --> 00:13:29,640 Speaker 2: Have a terrible personnel for three on three. They don't 248 00:13:29,679 --> 00:13:32,240 Speaker 2: know how to play three on three, and they don't 249 00:13:32,280 --> 00:13:35,920 Speaker 2: finish three on three, which is odd because they're decent 250 00:13:35,960 --> 00:13:39,240 Speaker 2: finishers five on five or whatever. There are some who think, 251 00:13:39,400 --> 00:13:43,480 Speaker 2: and maybe it's true that this team start is fool's gold, 252 00:13:43,720 --> 00:13:45,559 Speaker 2: even as you know, good as it's been till now, 253 00:13:45,640 --> 00:13:49,319 Speaker 2: up until this really bad stretch of blowing leads, maybe 254 00:13:49,320 --> 00:13:52,320 Speaker 2: it's been fools gold because it's been carried by special teams. 255 00:13:52,320 --> 00:13:54,480 Speaker 1: But I mean, does it really matter why? 256 00:13:57,120 --> 00:13:59,679 Speaker 4: Well, it's so bad in the parent but the other 257 00:13:59,720 --> 00:14:02,119 Speaker 4: team as your Broni's that score the goals too. 258 00:14:02,160 --> 00:14:03,560 Speaker 5: Who are the guys for Utah? 259 00:14:03,679 --> 00:14:05,000 Speaker 4: I mean you got car Cone? 260 00:14:05,040 --> 00:14:07,280 Speaker 1: I never heard of them, Yeah, but there they got 261 00:14:07,320 --> 00:14:07,840 Speaker 1: good players. 262 00:14:07,880 --> 00:14:07,960 Speaker 2: Bro. 263 00:14:08,120 --> 00:14:09,440 Speaker 1: It's just guys you've not heard of. 264 00:14:11,760 --> 00:14:13,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, I guess yeah, I mean. 265 00:14:13,679 --> 00:14:15,440 Speaker 2: I mean, I mean, I don't know why they're bad 266 00:14:15,440 --> 00:14:18,280 Speaker 2: three on three. They didn't practice it much until recently 267 00:14:18,280 --> 00:14:20,680 Speaker 2: affect them. Still not one hundred percent sure they do. 268 00:14:20,760 --> 00:14:23,760 Speaker 2: I think they just might be practicing shootouts, like like 269 00:14:24,080 --> 00:14:25,600 Speaker 2: Gino's terrible three on three. 270 00:14:25,840 --> 00:14:28,320 Speaker 1: I've been told he just thinks it's stupid. You know. 271 00:14:28,360 --> 00:14:30,320 Speaker 2: It's just I don't know why they're not good three 272 00:14:30,360 --> 00:14:34,680 Speaker 2: on three. And ever since Shiro and Bilesma management coaching 273 00:14:34,760 --> 00:14:37,320 Speaker 2: have never thought it's important to try to a get 274 00:14:37,360 --> 00:14:40,720 Speaker 2: personnel to specialize in any of those things the shootout too, 275 00:14:41,280 --> 00:14:44,760 Speaker 2: or or to drill people until you figure it out. 276 00:14:45,200 --> 00:14:47,560 Speaker 2: I mean now starting to practice the shootout now a 277 00:14:47,600 --> 00:14:50,440 Speaker 2: little late for that. They're they're one in nine already 278 00:14:50,480 --> 00:14:52,880 Speaker 2: in games decided after sixty minutes. 279 00:14:52,920 --> 00:14:53,840 Speaker 1: Thank you for the call down. 280 00:14:54,240 --> 00:14:56,400 Speaker 2: Up next, we're gonna talk to our football guru, Matt 281 00:14:56,400 --> 00:14:58,920 Speaker 2: Williamson on one oh five to nine double m on 282 00:14:58,960 --> 00:15:03,040 Speaker 2: the X Steelers hosting Miami tonight in nine degree whether 283 00:15:03,960 --> 00:15:05,880 Speaker 2: don at Akashort joining me now to talk about it. 284 00:15:05,920 --> 00:15:09,080 Speaker 2: Our football guru, the former pro and college Scott Matt 285 00:15:09,120 --> 00:15:12,560 Speaker 2: Williamson man, how much is the absence of TJ Wathart. 286 00:15:12,600 --> 00:15:15,120 Speaker 1: It seems like they got edge rusher relatively covered. 287 00:15:16,800 --> 00:15:18,720 Speaker 4: I think it hurts a ton in this game, not 288 00:15:18,920 --> 00:15:21,520 Speaker 4: because of the pass rush, and frankly, I can make 289 00:15:21,560 --> 00:15:24,840 Speaker 4: the argument that he's their third best edge pass rusher 290 00:15:24,920 --> 00:15:27,960 Speaker 4: this year. I mean frankly, I think Herbig is number 291 00:15:28,000 --> 00:15:33,560 Speaker 4: one in terms of pass rush. Now, Tua is immobile 292 00:15:33,680 --> 00:15:35,080 Speaker 4: and he's going to be in the pocket. You know 293 00:15:35,120 --> 00:15:37,600 Speaker 4: exactly where to find him. He's much different than trying 294 00:15:37,600 --> 00:15:40,160 Speaker 4: to sack Lamar or al in the last two weeks. 295 00:15:40,680 --> 00:15:44,040 Speaker 4: But why I think it's so crucial this week is 296 00:15:44,120 --> 00:15:48,960 Speaker 4: TJ is still an elite an elite run defender, edge defender, 297 00:15:49,440 --> 00:15:52,160 Speaker 4: and that's exactly where this run game goes. They try 298 00:15:52,200 --> 00:15:56,920 Speaker 4: to go off tackle wide zone speed, speed, speed, an 299 00:15:56,960 --> 00:15:59,840 Speaker 4: offensive line that gets off the ball very very quickly. 300 00:16:00,800 --> 00:16:06,840 Speaker 4: They present a lot of angle problems, alignment problems. They're 301 00:16:06,880 --> 00:16:09,160 Speaker 4: the heaviest motion team in the league and they run 302 00:16:09,200 --> 00:16:12,160 Speaker 4: off motion really really well. So his head for the 303 00:16:12,240 --> 00:16:16,400 Speaker 4: game and ability to push the run to the inside 304 00:16:16,720 --> 00:16:19,880 Speaker 4: is going to be missed drastically to me and might 305 00:16:19,920 --> 00:16:22,920 Speaker 4: have to fall on Sawyer a little bit too. I 306 00:16:22,920 --> 00:16:24,720 Speaker 4: think he's capable, but I don't think he's one of 307 00:16:24,760 --> 00:16:26,080 Speaker 4: the best edge defenders in the league. 308 00:16:26,120 --> 00:16:27,120 Speaker 1: Like what right? 309 00:16:27,160 --> 00:16:29,640 Speaker 2: But I was going to actually suggest that Matt Sawyer, 310 00:16:30,120 --> 00:16:34,240 Speaker 2: for the circumstance you're describing, is a better bet maybe 311 00:16:34,600 --> 00:16:35,080 Speaker 2: than her. 312 00:16:35,040 --> 00:16:38,320 Speaker 4: Big correct, I would say so, but I have to 313 00:16:38,320 --> 00:16:40,600 Speaker 4: give her a big credit. I mean, he's gotten so 314 00:16:40,760 --> 00:16:43,480 Speaker 4: much better as a run defender, you know, throughout the 315 00:16:43,520 --> 00:16:46,640 Speaker 4: course of the year or year after year. But Sawyer 316 00:16:46,720 --> 00:16:48,200 Speaker 4: is definitely a bigger body. 317 00:16:49,360 --> 00:16:52,160 Speaker 1: Now the Steelers have to put the game into his hands. 318 00:16:52,160 --> 00:16:53,680 Speaker 1: I think. Is that easier said than. 319 00:16:53,600 --> 00:16:57,920 Speaker 4: Done, much easier said than done, but exactly the whole 320 00:16:58,000 --> 00:17:01,520 Speaker 4: key to the game in my opinion too. Two is 321 00:17:01,520 --> 00:17:05,080 Speaker 4: a certain kind of quarterback, and their offense has done 322 00:17:05,080 --> 00:17:08,760 Speaker 4: an extremely good job of working around his strengths and 323 00:17:08,840 --> 00:17:11,760 Speaker 4: his weaknesses. I mean, if you think Rogers gets the 324 00:17:11,760 --> 00:17:14,280 Speaker 4: ball out quick, I mean watch Tua and they're always 325 00:17:14,400 --> 00:17:20,440 Speaker 4: quick over the middle type after the catch, very precise. 326 00:17:21,119 --> 00:17:25,680 Speaker 4: But he has no second you know, second effort issues. 327 00:17:25,760 --> 00:17:27,960 Speaker 4: You know, he doesn't create if things don't go to 328 00:17:28,040 --> 00:17:32,000 Speaker 4: plan and he's throwing the ball to the other team 329 00:17:32,119 --> 00:17:35,359 Speaker 4: much more. He has very little physicality to his game, 330 00:17:36,080 --> 00:17:40,400 Speaker 4: and the receivers other than Waddle are pretty pedestrian, especially 331 00:17:40,400 --> 00:17:42,760 Speaker 4: with Tyreek out of the mix. But it's a really 332 00:17:42,840 --> 00:17:46,399 Speaker 4: well designed offense. They know exactly what he is. But 333 00:17:46,440 --> 00:17:48,360 Speaker 4: you're right, I mean, to me, then you know that's 334 00:17:48,359 --> 00:17:51,720 Speaker 4: a cut the chase. The biggest issue for the entire 335 00:17:51,800 --> 00:17:54,080 Speaker 4: game is how well Miami runs a ball. 336 00:17:54,680 --> 00:17:56,640 Speaker 2: Right, because, like we agree, if it gets to two, 337 00:17:56,800 --> 00:17:59,800 Speaker 2: they're in trouble. And you describe everything you know wrong 338 00:17:59,840 --> 00:18:02,439 Speaker 2: with to and I echo all of it. 339 00:18:02,520 --> 00:18:04,639 Speaker 1: But what went wrong with him? He was supposed to 340 00:18:04,640 --> 00:18:05,480 Speaker 1: be much better than this. 341 00:18:05,560 --> 00:18:08,600 Speaker 2: How much did the concussions figure in his demise as 342 00:18:08,640 --> 00:18:09,080 Speaker 2: a player. 343 00:18:10,320 --> 00:18:12,760 Speaker 4: That's a hard thing to comment on because he's had 344 00:18:12,880 --> 00:18:17,000 Speaker 4: so many injuries, and he never was particularly physically overwhelming 345 00:18:17,119 --> 00:18:19,240 Speaker 4: to start with. I mean, he's not right, he was 346 00:18:20,000 --> 00:18:23,400 Speaker 4: never great to start with. Matt no, no, I mean, 347 00:18:23,440 --> 00:18:25,760 Speaker 4: but even like Tank for Tua back in the day, 348 00:18:25,960 --> 00:18:28,760 Speaker 4: it wasn't like because he was so physically gifted. I mean, 349 00:18:29,119 --> 00:18:31,720 Speaker 4: I never understood that to begin with. I also wanted 350 00:18:31,760 --> 00:18:33,920 Speaker 4: to throw something into your last question too. I mean 351 00:18:34,119 --> 00:18:38,840 Speaker 4: Tua's performances in cold weather, and I'm talking like forty 352 00:18:38,880 --> 00:18:42,000 Speaker 4: degrees and lower are really bad. I mean, this kid's 353 00:18:42,040 --> 00:18:45,000 Speaker 4: from Hawaii who went to Bama, who went to Miami. 354 00:18:45,160 --> 00:18:48,800 Speaker 4: I mean like I mean, he does not handle the football. Well, 355 00:18:49,440 --> 00:18:52,160 Speaker 4: that's going to be a lot harder, a lot heavier, 356 00:18:52,240 --> 00:18:54,720 Speaker 4: a lot harder to control. I mean, you want this 357 00:18:54,800 --> 00:18:58,240 Speaker 4: guy throwing outside the numbers holding the football. But I 358 00:18:58,320 --> 00:19:02,240 Speaker 4: never really understood what the hype was about to begin with. Honestly. 359 00:19:02,359 --> 00:19:06,639 Speaker 4: I mean, he's he's very limited in terms of arm strength, physicality, 360 00:19:07,520 --> 00:19:12,399 Speaker 4: ability to break tastles, extend, all those things are pretty 361 00:19:12,400 --> 00:19:13,399 Speaker 4: average at best. 362 00:19:13,880 --> 00:19:16,200 Speaker 1: Well, and you said something that a lot of people don't. 363 00:19:16,240 --> 00:19:19,840 Speaker 2: You actually brought up a legitimate reason why cold weather 364 00:19:19,920 --> 00:19:22,800 Speaker 2: makes the game tougher, Like the grip on the ball, 365 00:19:22,840 --> 00:19:23,600 Speaker 2: the way to the wall. 366 00:19:23,640 --> 00:19:27,240 Speaker 1: It's not just his comfort tonight, right exactly. 367 00:19:27,280 --> 00:19:30,640 Speaker 4: I mean, it's controlling the football, and Rogers has done 368 00:19:30,680 --> 00:19:33,080 Speaker 4: it expertly over his career. I mean, we haven't seen 369 00:19:33,119 --> 00:19:36,680 Speaker 4: it in a while, but nobody bay right exactly. 370 00:19:37,280 --> 00:19:41,000 Speaker 2: Now, you mentioned Miami's offensive game plan. What's your take 371 00:19:41,040 --> 00:19:43,800 Speaker 2: on Mike McDaniel. Is he a legit good coach and 372 00:19:43,880 --> 00:19:44,760 Speaker 2: analytics geek? 373 00:19:44,840 --> 00:19:45,640 Speaker 1: Maybe both. 374 00:19:47,320 --> 00:19:51,639 Speaker 4: Very different style. He doesn't exactly look the part. He 375 00:19:53,200 --> 00:19:56,879 Speaker 4: outwardly talks about his checkered past and some demons that 376 00:19:56,920 --> 00:19:59,720 Speaker 4: he's gotten over. I don't know if he's a great 377 00:19:59,760 --> 00:20:03,720 Speaker 4: head coach, but man, his team is playing really really 378 00:20:03,760 --> 00:20:06,240 Speaker 4: hard for him these last four or five weeks since 379 00:20:06,280 --> 00:20:09,800 Speaker 4: they fired the GM and traded some guys at the deadline. 380 00:20:09,880 --> 00:20:14,159 Speaker 4: So I think he is respected and liked. But as 381 00:20:14,200 --> 00:20:17,520 Speaker 4: an offensive mind, he's top two or three in the 382 00:20:17,560 --> 00:20:20,320 Speaker 4: league for me. I mean, like, if you just let 383 00:20:20,400 --> 00:20:23,199 Speaker 4: him design the offense, maybe that's you know what. He 384 00:20:23,280 --> 00:20:25,359 Speaker 4: hits his head on the ceiling as in terms of 385 00:20:25,400 --> 00:20:29,720 Speaker 4: his career, where he's just a all time great Josh McDaniels, 386 00:20:29,760 --> 00:20:33,119 Speaker 4: you know, offensive coordinator only guy because he is a 387 00:20:33,240 --> 00:20:35,920 Speaker 4: unique leader of men to say the least. But boy, 388 00:20:36,000 --> 00:20:38,480 Speaker 4: he designed things up extremely well. 389 00:20:39,400 --> 00:20:42,119 Speaker 2: We're talking about Williamson, our football guru here on the 390 00:20:42,240 --> 00:20:45,320 Speaker 2: Mark Madden Show. Matt Blots was by the Steelers Pro 391 00:20:45,400 --> 00:20:49,000 Speaker 2: Shop shop Dots Steelers dot Com. Matt that Miami defense 392 00:20:49,040 --> 00:20:53,239 Speaker 2: has been pretty good lately, what's been the catalyst there. 393 00:20:53,280 --> 00:20:55,159 Speaker 2: They'd be getting a bunch of takeaways too. Maybe they 394 00:20:55,200 --> 00:20:57,320 Speaker 2: can match the Steelers tonight in that regard. 395 00:20:58,280 --> 00:21:00,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, and I'll be honest, that's the part of the 396 00:21:00,920 --> 00:21:03,720 Speaker 4: game that I've had the hardest time wrapping my head around. 397 00:21:04,200 --> 00:21:08,440 Speaker 4: I can't figure out if it's a below average defense, 398 00:21:08,440 --> 00:21:10,920 Speaker 4: it's just playing some bad teams. I mean, the last 399 00:21:10,960 --> 00:21:13,080 Speaker 4: couple of teams they played have been really rough, Like 400 00:21:13,080 --> 00:21:15,840 Speaker 4: the Jets are an embarrassment, and they had a quarterback 401 00:21:15,840 --> 00:21:18,280 Speaker 4: in last week that I had never heard of. They 402 00:21:18,280 --> 00:21:20,960 Speaker 4: did beat the Bills four weeks ago, though, they're definitely 403 00:21:21,000 --> 00:21:24,240 Speaker 4: taking the ball away. They run well, they're pretty good 404 00:21:24,359 --> 00:21:27,399 Speaker 4: up the middle, they're linebackers are good players. We know 405 00:21:27,560 --> 00:21:32,440 Speaker 4: Minka is a player. But their outside corners are really bad. Yeah, yeah, 406 00:21:32,440 --> 00:21:33,600 Speaker 4: but that might not. 407 00:21:33,560 --> 00:21:35,960 Speaker 2: Be a factor tonight. I was thinking about that. You're right, 408 00:21:36,000 --> 00:21:38,520 Speaker 2: the weakest part of their d might be the corners. 409 00:21:38,520 --> 00:21:40,800 Speaker 2: But look at the Steelers' receivers and how they're used 410 00:21:40,800 --> 00:21:43,600 Speaker 2: for that matter exactly exactly. 411 00:21:43,720 --> 00:21:45,960 Speaker 4: I mean, I would hope you can get they're gonna 412 00:21:45,960 --> 00:21:47,840 Speaker 4: play a lot of too high. They're gonna beg you 413 00:21:47,880 --> 00:21:51,160 Speaker 4: to run the football. They're not a super physical defense, 414 00:21:51,680 --> 00:21:54,600 Speaker 4: but I would still hope you can get Metcalf isolated 415 00:21:54,760 --> 00:21:57,879 Speaker 4: on any of their corners there. Their corners are amongst 416 00:21:57,920 --> 00:22:00,720 Speaker 4: the worst in the league. They do hard as a 417 00:22:00,800 --> 00:22:04,600 Speaker 4: unit and all that good stuff, But I can't bring 418 00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:08,280 Speaker 4: myself to say, man, that's a much improve Miami defense. 419 00:22:08,280 --> 00:22:10,080 Speaker 4: I meany trade away a couple of their best players, 420 00:22:10,240 --> 00:22:11,880 Speaker 4: and they played some pretty bad teams. 421 00:22:12,600 --> 00:22:15,040 Speaker 2: How much influence does it feel like Rogers has on 422 00:22:15,080 --> 00:22:18,200 Speaker 2: the Steelers offense right now? Not just scheme but also personnel, 423 00:22:18,240 --> 00:22:23,520 Speaker 2: with guys like Fielan and mvs putting Wilson on the 424 00:22:23,520 --> 00:22:27,560 Speaker 2: bench and well, Wilson no helmet and Calvin Austin. I 425 00:22:27,560 --> 00:22:29,480 Speaker 2: know he's hurt, but his role is shrunk as well. 426 00:22:30,640 --> 00:22:33,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm sure he has quite a bit of influence, 427 00:22:33,359 --> 00:22:36,120 Speaker 4: and I'm not sure so sure that that's a bad thing. 428 00:22:36,400 --> 00:22:38,560 Speaker 4: I mean, I'm not even sure you're implying it's a 429 00:22:38,560 --> 00:22:43,000 Speaker 4: bad thing. I think he's a really smart football mind 430 00:22:43,320 --> 00:22:46,480 Speaker 4: and realizes and he also plays such a certain way 431 00:22:47,160 --> 00:22:49,640 Speaker 4: that he really needs guys to be exactly where they're 432 00:22:49,640 --> 00:22:52,440 Speaker 4: supposed to be. And even though Felan can't run anymore, 433 00:22:52,520 --> 00:22:56,879 Speaker 4: I'm certain he'll do that. I would imagine he has 434 00:22:56,920 --> 00:22:59,720 Speaker 4: a lot of influence, and again I don't have a 435 00:22:59,720 --> 00:23:04,360 Speaker 4: problem with it. I do think him and Arthur Smith together. 436 00:23:05,240 --> 00:23:07,800 Speaker 4: I'm not saying that they're a bad combination. They're not. 437 00:23:08,280 --> 00:23:11,200 Speaker 4: It's just Arthur Smith wants to throw in the middle 438 00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:13,919 Speaker 4: of the field off play action and that's not what 439 00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:16,560 Speaker 4: Rogers does anymore. And it's kind of a weird marriage. 440 00:23:16,600 --> 00:23:19,119 Speaker 4: Back to when they signed Rogers. 441 00:23:18,920 --> 00:23:21,560 Speaker 2: The deep balls came out at Baltimore more than any 442 00:23:21,640 --> 00:23:24,760 Speaker 2: game this season and almost out of nowhere to Matt. 443 00:23:25,040 --> 00:23:28,040 Speaker 2: Will that continue tonight against Miami. You mentioned their corners 444 00:23:28,080 --> 00:23:30,320 Speaker 2: they good, but you do have Menca arking back there. 445 00:23:31,320 --> 00:23:34,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, and Menca will play more slot than he will, 446 00:23:34,160 --> 00:23:37,600 Speaker 4: like beat middle in Miami because their slots are so bad. 447 00:23:37,760 --> 00:23:41,119 Speaker 4: I mean, which is kind of funny. Is you traded 448 00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:43,679 Speaker 4: for Ramsey to upgrade at slot and he ends up 449 00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:46,199 Speaker 4: at free safety. They trade for Menca to upgrade at 450 00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:49,920 Speaker 4: free safety and he ends up at slot. So both 451 00:23:49,920 --> 00:23:54,639 Speaker 4: are versatile, good players. A big key to their defensive 452 00:23:54,640 --> 00:23:57,200 Speaker 4: scheme is taking away the deep ball. I mean, they 453 00:23:57,200 --> 00:23:59,280 Speaker 4: do want to play a lot of two high safeties. 454 00:23:59,720 --> 00:24:03,240 Speaker 4: They realize basically all their defensive backs not name Minka 455 00:24:03,280 --> 00:24:06,560 Speaker 4: Fitzpatrick are pretty terrible. So we're gonna try to double 456 00:24:06,600 --> 00:24:09,040 Speaker 4: on the outside. We're gonna make you dink and dunk 457 00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:12,440 Speaker 4: down the field, which basically is what the Steelers do anyway. 458 00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:16,000 Speaker 4: So I wouldn't think this is a great deep ball, 459 00:24:16,160 --> 00:24:18,760 Speaker 4: drive the field, drive the ball down the field type 460 00:24:18,760 --> 00:24:19,080 Speaker 4: a night. 461 00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:24,840 Speaker 2: How can the Steelers resuscitate their running game? And is 462 00:24:24,840 --> 00:24:27,160 Speaker 2: that even a big concern to them? And now Warren 463 00:24:27,240 --> 00:24:30,280 Speaker 2: might not play. 464 00:24:29,080 --> 00:24:33,240 Speaker 4: That, I don't get either. So Number one, the thing 465 00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:35,960 Speaker 4: that I think we talk about every Monday is time 466 00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:39,520 Speaker 4: of possession and number of plays that the defense plays 467 00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:43,320 Speaker 4: versus the offense is now officially obscene. I mean, it's 468 00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:47,359 Speaker 4: unbelievably bad. And to me, step one to fix that 469 00:24:47,640 --> 00:24:50,600 Speaker 4: huge problem would be just to run the ball more. 470 00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:54,000 Speaker 4: And I'm not even convinced it's a bad running game. 471 00:24:54,480 --> 00:24:59,000 Speaker 4: I mean, I don't think it so quick, that's my point. 472 00:24:59,119 --> 00:25:01,280 Speaker 4: I mean, if I had I say, one thing that's 473 00:25:01,320 --> 00:25:03,080 Speaker 4: wrong with the running game is that they don't do 474 00:25:03,119 --> 00:25:06,399 Speaker 4: it enough. And you know, like the Packers game is 475 00:25:06,440 --> 00:25:08,560 Speaker 4: the best example I could give. They run the ball 476 00:25:08,600 --> 00:25:11,120 Speaker 4: really well all to the first half against a good defense, 477 00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:14,359 Speaker 4: Warren gets th recarries in the second half and you lose. 478 00:25:14,560 --> 00:25:17,520 Speaker 4: You know, like, it makes no sense to me whatsoever. 479 00:25:18,119 --> 00:25:22,200 Speaker 4: I mean, if you isolate all the parts, the ball carriers, 480 00:25:22,800 --> 00:25:26,879 Speaker 4: the blocking, the scheme, none are at the top of 481 00:25:26,920 --> 00:25:29,399 Speaker 4: the league, but none at the bottom of the league either. 482 00:25:29,600 --> 00:25:31,760 Speaker 4: I mean, if you just stick with it and help 483 00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:34,840 Speaker 4: your defense a little bit. I don't understand why they won't, 484 00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:35,760 Speaker 4: why they refuse to. 485 00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:38,240 Speaker 2: Well, that's my point, Matt, because you know, I know 486 00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:41,080 Speaker 2: you say rogers is influence in the offense makes sense, 487 00:25:41,119 --> 00:25:44,440 Speaker 2: But this running game being minimized, that's his influence too, 488 00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:46,760 Speaker 2: And I don't like it at all. And it also, 489 00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:50,359 Speaker 2: like you said, it conflicts with Smith's vision because what's 490 00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:52,680 Speaker 2: the point of Washington playing that much if you're not 491 00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:53,520 Speaker 2: going to run the ball? 492 00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:55,879 Speaker 1: What's the point of the jumbo package. 493 00:25:56,920 --> 00:26:01,600 Speaker 4: Exactly? And you know, along those lines, why dedicate a 494 00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:04,439 Speaker 4: passing game to your tight end room if you never 495 00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:09,240 Speaker 4: throw the mittle field. I mean, like there's some counterintuitive 496 00:26:09,440 --> 00:26:15,159 Speaker 4: planning here. Now. What I can't figure out is the 497 00:26:15,280 --> 00:26:18,439 Speaker 4: run past percentage. If we all have a problem with 498 00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:23,199 Speaker 4: it because there is more pass heavy than we like. 499 00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:27,960 Speaker 4: Is that Arthur Smith thing. History shows it's not that 500 00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:30,280 Speaker 4: guy wants to run the ball every time. Is it 501 00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:33,200 Speaker 4: a Tomlin thing? I bet not. I think he wants 502 00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:36,960 Speaker 4: to play a conservative style. Rogers on the other hand, 503 00:26:37,960 --> 00:26:40,600 Speaker 4: is you know, the Jets were a bad team last year, 504 00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:42,879 Speaker 4: but they also had the fewest carries in the league. 505 00:26:43,359 --> 00:26:45,840 Speaker 4: I mean, he's known for checking out of runs at 506 00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:50,320 Speaker 4: the line of scrimmage. Now, some of it is a 507 00:26:50,359 --> 00:26:52,920 Speaker 4: case by case basis where it's definitely the right thing 508 00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:56,639 Speaker 4: to do if you better receivers, if you're throwing the 509 00:26:56,720 --> 00:26:59,159 Speaker 4: Jordan Nelson at Devonte Adams and these guys that can 510 00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:01,600 Speaker 4: win one on one. Because I do think he comes 511 00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:06,640 Speaker 4: the line a lot, sees advantageous looks, and then Austin 512 00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:10,080 Speaker 4: or Wilson doesn't get open, and you know they take 513 00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:14,480 Speaker 4: away Metcalf with a double. So who's to say? But 514 00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:17,560 Speaker 4: I bet it's not Smith that is holding back the 515 00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:18,639 Speaker 4: percentage of runs. 516 00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:21,080 Speaker 2: No, I appreciate, I feel very certain about that, and 517 00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:24,560 Speaker 2: not Tomlin either. Really, now, how does this game stack 518 00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:26,560 Speaker 2: up in terms of importance to both teams? We know 519 00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:30,240 Speaker 2: Miami's mathematically eliminated if they lose, but I feel like 520 00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:34,160 Speaker 2: the Steelers really need this game too, Baltimore beat Cincinnati. 521 00:27:34,760 --> 00:27:37,359 Speaker 2: If you lose your throwing yourself back in the hole. 522 00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:40,719 Speaker 2: It just it seems like a big game, kind of 523 00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:42,040 Speaker 2: on a sly basis. 524 00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:46,040 Speaker 4: I agree. I mean, it's means more to Miami because 525 00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:48,359 Speaker 4: it truly is do or die for them, of course, 526 00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:50,320 Speaker 4: but I do think they're doing a good job in 527 00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:54,560 Speaker 4: Miami of keeping their jobs and maybe even getting to 528 00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:58,120 Speaker 4: another year. So they're trending the right way after being 529 00:27:58,119 --> 00:27:59,840 Speaker 4: one of the worst teams in the league. So they 530 00:27:59,840 --> 00:28:02,240 Speaker 4: have some momentum and a positive man or probably win 531 00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:06,119 Speaker 4: or lose. I just heard today that the Ravens are 532 00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:09,160 Speaker 4: back to being the Vegas favorites in the AFC North. Again, 533 00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:13,040 Speaker 4: that's a little alarming. I mean, I guess that's not 534 00:28:13,119 --> 00:28:15,879 Speaker 4: a ring endorsement. And you can look at games like 535 00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:19,080 Speaker 4: the Browns game, which is gonna be really important, But 536 00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:21,840 Speaker 4: what if it's a blizzard and nobody can do anything 537 00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:26,119 Speaker 4: in Miles Garrettt's three sacks and you lose nine to six. 538 00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:32,040 Speaker 2: Yikes, Matt, there's always tremendous insight and enjoy. You're not 539 00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:33,760 Speaker 2: going tonight, are you don't go? You're not going to 540 00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:34,720 Speaker 2: be out in the cold. 541 00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:37,880 Speaker 4: No, I'm actually in two studios away from you, getting 542 00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:39,360 Speaker 4: ready to do the pregame show with Tom. 543 00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:41,160 Speaker 1: Well, you should have come over. Would have been nice 544 00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:42,680 Speaker 1: to have company. 545 00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:44,200 Speaker 4: I heard it was a little tight where you're sitting 546 00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:45,560 Speaker 4: right now, so I just walked in. 547 00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:49,479 Speaker 1: Matt, great stuff, Enjoy the game. We'll talk next week. 548 00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:51,880 Speaker 4: I'll see at the coffee maker in a couple of minutes. 549 00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:52,920 Speaker 1: You actually will. 550 00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:55,920 Speaker 2: That's Matt Williamson, brought to us by Shop dot Steelers 551 00:28:56,440 --> 00:28:57,400 Speaker 2: dot com. 552 00:28:58,200 --> 00:28:59,080 Speaker 1: In just a moment. 553 00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:04,959 Speaker 2: Uh, you know, Miles Garrett's really close to breaking Watts record. 554 00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:08,120 Speaker 2: We'll talk about that in the moment. Single sacks in 555 00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:13,600 Speaker 2: a single season. And there's a report from somebody who 556 00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:17,000 Speaker 2: says the Steelers are told to take a penalty every 557 00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:19,520 Speaker 2: time Garrett might get a sack when they play each other. 558 00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:21,360 Speaker 1: That's weird. We'll get to that in a moment here 559 00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:22,440 Speaker 1: on one O five to nine. 560 00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:26,040 Speaker 2: Wow, this is the first season since nineteen ninety eight 561 00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:28,320 Speaker 2: without Manning, Brady or Mahomes. 562 00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:31,200 Speaker 1: That's crazy. 563 00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:36,840 Speaker 2: This segment brought to was by the Steelers Pro Shop. 564 00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:38,800 Speaker 2: Get it direct from the team at Shop dot Steelers 565 00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:43,840 Speaker 2: dot com. Uh. Here's Nate Tice of Yahoo Sports saying 566 00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:46,600 Speaker 2: very specifically why the Steelers offense sucks. 567 00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:49,800 Speaker 6: They had a play out there where it was it 568 00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:54,400 Speaker 6: was Adam Deeelen Scars guard, Bench Kronik, a jumbo offensive lineman, 569 00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:58,280 Speaker 6: and then Darnell Washington as well. So they have two 570 00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:02,240 Speaker 6: block first receivers, a six offensive lineman Darnel Washington, who's 571 00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:05,840 Speaker 6: essentially another offensive lineman. It's like this offense has zero 572 00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:09,600 Speaker 6: threat of launching the ball. They're just gonna live and 573 00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:13,120 Speaker 6: die five yard gains throwing or rushing. This is a 574 00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:16,600 Speaker 6: check down, Charlie. Offense is dk Metcalf, go balls and checkdowns. 575 00:30:17,040 --> 00:30:19,600 Speaker 6: So we'll see how this goes against the Dolphins defense. 576 00:30:21,280 --> 00:30:25,280 Speaker 2: Wow, talk about some hard truth check down, Charlie. Skaronic 577 00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:28,600 Speaker 2: thalan the fat kid of the jumbo package. If I'm 578 00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:31,640 Speaker 2: on defense, I have eleven men in the box or 579 00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:35,320 Speaker 2: I'm like really confused, like what are these guys gonna do? 580 00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:39,240 Speaker 2: I don't think they can do anything. Is there something 581 00:30:39,280 --> 00:30:43,680 Speaker 2: I'm missing? But the answer is no, there isn't because 582 00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:49,000 Speaker 2: Karonic's not gonna run a go route. That is is prehistoric. 583 00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:56,200 Speaker 2: And what's nuttier is it appears to be what Rogers wants. Uh, 584 00:30:56,280 --> 00:30:59,000 Speaker 2: here's a weird story from Kevin Kugler during the Bears 585 00:30:59,040 --> 00:31:03,000 Speaker 2: Bronze telecast on Fox that the Steelers are told to 586 00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:06,440 Speaker 2: do anything possible to make sure Miles Garrett doesn't get 587 00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:09,960 Speaker 2: a sack when the Steelers play Cleveland. He told us 588 00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:13,680 Speaker 2: that the Steelers guys told him they are not allowed 589 00:31:14,120 --> 00:31:15,760 Speaker 2: to get to him at a sack. 590 00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:18,920 Speaker 5: He said, they told me if I'm anywhere close, they're 591 00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:21,360 Speaker 5: instructed to take the penalty. 592 00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:24,000 Speaker 1: He said. It's been this way for a couple of 593 00:31:24,040 --> 00:31:24,480 Speaker 1: years now. 594 00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:26,560 Speaker 2: By the way, he doesn't have a sack against the 595 00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:27,400 Speaker 2: Steelers in his. 596 00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:30,040 Speaker 1: Open game this year, but it did have four to 597 00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:30,920 Speaker 1: two last year. 598 00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:36,080 Speaker 2: I get it. Garrett's good player. He don't want him 599 00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:39,640 Speaker 2: to do damage. But if that's designed to keep Garrett 600 00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:44,160 Speaker 2: sacks down for Watt's sake, wow, because that would be petty, 601 00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:48,479 Speaker 2: Tom petty. If it's designed to keep Garrett from breaking 602 00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:52,080 Speaker 2: the quarterback in half, well that makes sense. By the way, 603 00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:55,480 Speaker 2: Garrett got two sacks yesterday and needs one sack to 604 00:31:55,560 --> 00:31:59,760 Speaker 2: tie TJ. Watts single season record two secks to break 605 00:31:59,800 --> 00:32:04,880 Speaker 2: it with three games to go. Hey, DJ, I'm afraid 606 00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:08,440 Speaker 2: I've got some bad news. 607 00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:12,720 Speaker 1: Besides the punctured lot. Uh. 608 00:32:13,080 --> 00:32:16,520 Speaker 2: Here's Billy Garret X of this parish and now the 609 00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:22,400 Speaker 2: Minnesota wild gm. Uh, here's the exact scenario of him 610 00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:26,080 Speaker 2: concluding that big deal with Vancouver for the mega defenseman 611 00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:26,720 Speaker 2: quinn us. 612 00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:29,800 Speaker 1: Wherehere are you when you get the call from Jim like, hey, 613 00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:30,680 Speaker 1: let's do this. 614 00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:30,800 Speaker 2: Or. 615 00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:39,040 Speaker 7: About the anist truth. I was making meatballs for our 616 00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:43,240 Speaker 7: Christmas Eve dinner and Jim called, so I had to 617 00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:45,360 Speaker 7: take my gloves, my latex gloves off, so I was 618 00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:49,280 Speaker 7: rolling meatballs and uh, he told me we have a deal, 619 00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:53,160 Speaker 7: and uh, there us a fist pump invault. 620 00:32:54,760 --> 00:32:56,800 Speaker 1: I'm more curious about the meatballs. I may. 621 00:32:57,000 --> 00:33:00,800 Speaker 2: I bet Billy makes good meatballs. Wow, you got Dallas, 622 00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:04,640 Speaker 2: Colorado and Minnesota in the same division and people are 623 00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:09,480 Speaker 2: saying they should recede using the whole conference one versus eight, 624 00:33:09,520 --> 00:33:10,760 Speaker 2: which you can't do now. 625 00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:12,440 Speaker 1: You can't decide that now. 626 00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:17,160 Speaker 2: And you hear that crap all the time every time 627 00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:19,560 Speaker 2: one division gets cluttered with as much talent as that 628 00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:23,560 Speaker 2: division with Dallas, Colorado and Minnesota. But as a fan, 629 00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:28,920 Speaker 2: I want to see those series, those games like in sixteen, 630 00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:32,040 Speaker 2: seventeen and eighteen when the Penguins played Washington every year 631 00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:34,880 Speaker 2: in the second round. It was really the Stanley Cup 632 00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:38,920 Speaker 2: Final being played in the second round. The Penguins won 633 00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:41,920 Speaker 2: the Cup in sixteen and seventeen. The Caps won in eighteen, 634 00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:44,920 Speaker 2: and those were great series and I'm really glad we 635 00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:49,080 Speaker 2: saw them. We act like gray seeding would be upset proof. 636 00:33:49,640 --> 00:33:53,120 Speaker 1: It's not. You might never get to see the great series. 637 00:33:53,840 --> 00:33:57,280 Speaker 2: Up next, Dealers Talk with Alan Saunders. It's Smart Man 638 00:33:57,360 --> 00:33:58,360 Speaker 2: Show one oh five to nine.