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Speaker 1: Two minutes and thirty one seconds past the hour of

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Speaker 2: Standard Time, Welcome back.

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Speaker 1: It is a Monday edition, I'm sure, a very jolly

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Speaker 1: old edition of the Bumper to Buffer program on an

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Speaker 1: absolutely beautiful early November day here in the Twin Cities

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Speaker 1: of Minneapolis and Saint Paul.

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Speaker 2: Have we hit sixty? We're close?

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Speaker 1: I think maybe fifty seven in that range. I've got

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Speaker 1: fifty seven tomorrow, We're supposed to hit sixty.

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Speaker 2: How do you argue with this? You Can't's November. It's outstanding.

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Speaker 2: Guardsy produces the show.

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Speaker 1: My name is Dan Barrero, form Ringstain Retch newspaper of

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Speaker 1: the Twin Cities, and Guardsy it is. It's unfailed. We

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Speaker 1: actually talked about it a little bit late in the week.

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Speaker 1: It's indisputable. Everywhere I've gone today, everywhere, bounce in the

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Speaker 1: step of anybody I see. Doesn't everything feel lighter today

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Speaker 1: than it did at I don't know two minutes to

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Speaker 1: twelve yesterday, when we knew that the Vikings approached the

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Speaker 1: Detroit Lions game as almost ten point underdogs. Everything feels

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Speaker 1: better today, and that brings me back to your guy.

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Speaker 1: You always were a big Willy Wonka guy, weren't you?

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Speaker 1: I love the chocolate factors?

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Speaker 2: How could you know? Of course?

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Speaker 1: I never saw the remake. I have a hunch I

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Speaker 1: didn't miss much. I'm with you on what I heard. Yep,

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Speaker 1: that's a tough that's a tough remake. Jean Wilder, you're

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Speaker 1: gonna Can you really outdo Gene Wilder?

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Speaker 1: You outd Bogie and Cosablanca? I don't think so. I

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Speaker 1: always wanted one of those golden tickets? You know how

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Speaker 1: fun would that?

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Speaker 3: Oh?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, to get a golden ticket? Did anybody ever do that?

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Speaker 1: Like in real life? Probably version of that. People do

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Speaker 1: versions of it, Restaurants do versions of it, but nothing

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Speaker 1: like one of the golden tickets. And you do it

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Speaker 1: for sweep steaks and Super Bowl trips and things like that.

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Speaker 1: But imagine being a kid and getting the golden ticket.

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Speaker 1: We got to see it. What it meant to those

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Speaker 1: kids beyond emotional. What's the most famous song in that

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Speaker 1: particular motion picture? Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Tag? Oh man,

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Speaker 1: you'll have to remind me the candy Man. It's got

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Speaker 1: to be now, Samit Davis Junior turned it into man,

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Speaker 1: can the candy Man can't? We used it with Michael

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Speaker 1: exactly right. But I'm gonna some of the lyrics to

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Speaker 1: this song and tell me if I'm not. I don't

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Speaker 1: think I'm crazy to say that the National Football League

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Speaker 1: is the candy Man.

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Speaker 2: That's the purpose for so many people.

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Speaker 1: This league, especially when it goes as well as it

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Speaker 1: did for the Vikings on Sunday on the Road, serves

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Speaker 1: to everybody out there. Who can take a sunrise, sprinkle

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Speaker 1: it with dew, cover it with chocolate and a.

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Speaker 2: Miracle or two? Ko can choc Can? You know why?

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Speaker 1: Because he mixes it with love and makes the world

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Speaker 1: taste good? Who can take a rainbow, wrap it in

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Speaker 2: Chaos? Can the candy Man?

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Speaker 3: Can?

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Speaker 1: The Candyman makes everything he bakes satisfying and delicious? I

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Speaker 1: can't sing it now? You talk about your childhood wishes.

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Speaker 1: You can even eat the dishes. Oh who can take tomorrow?

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Speaker 2: Chaos can, Oh koc can.

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Speaker 1: Chaos can because he mixes it with love and makes

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Speaker 1: it's pure. It's the pure sugar high that everybody down

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Speaker 1: at five minutes to twelve, now are basking in.

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Speaker 2: Don't you think basking is the worst?

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Speaker 1: Basking is the word coupled with some other things that

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Speaker 2: There's a lot of basking. There should have been more.

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Speaker 1: I still can't believe the Bears ended up winning that

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Speaker 1: about here. The National Football League is the candy man.

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Speaker 1: It offers up the possibility. Now, admittedly, there can be

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Speaker 1: you out, and it could get very uncomfortable. Right, But

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Speaker 1: struggling in this case, National Football League team, seemingly erasing

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Speaker 2: Candy man that is the National Football League.

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Speaker 1: There's just no question, and we already we all knew it,

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Speaker 1: but today it just it was magical. Whatever your favorite

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Speaker 1: munching on it, you're overdosing on it, and deep down

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Speaker 1: in the back of your mind, you know there's another

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Speaker 2: Lamar Jackson's coming to town. We are as four and four.

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Speaker 1: What the best teams do is they do it often

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Speaker 1: enough that this doesn't seem like it's the event that

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Speaker 1: we're turning it into. Right, But that's for later, that's

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Speaker 1: past adrenaline. We're still in the adrenaline stage, the candyman stage.

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Speaker 1: We have not come down from the sugar high, nor

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Speaker 1: to the audience and say I predicted it.

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Speaker 1: I picked the vikings to not even cover the spread,

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Speaker 1: talked about the pat Riley mantra. I got mocked for

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Speaker 1: When pat Riley said sometimes in life you just got

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Speaker 2: Got to do it.

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Speaker 1: You have to find a way to do exactly that.

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Speaker 1: but Detroit just went through us like butter right, Fourth're

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Speaker 1: very haughty about we want the ball second half. We're

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Speaker 1: let's go and on fourth down, yes, right, because they

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Speaker 2: They don't even care if it's fourth and five. Once

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Speaker 1: Sometimes they may even be on their side of the

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Speaker 1: I will submit to you. I think saved the rear

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Speaker 1: I think, you know how a lot of times we

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Speaker 2: Did we did McCarthy get a game ball? We give

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Speaker 1: Yes he did? Okay, y did? Was he handed the

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Speaker 1: The head coach say thank you kid for saving my ass.

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Speaker 1: that this team has not been for sixty minutes, largely,

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Speaker 1: they were that team again. The fan and two men

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Speaker 1: once I do if this doesn't define your average National

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Speaker 2: Who can take tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: Dip it in a dream, separate the sorrow and collect

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Speaker 1: league when it's going good for it now again. But

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Speaker 1: and it even acknowledges in the Candy Man. Sometimes you

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Speaker 1: got some sorrow. But what did we do? What did

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Speaker 1: the Minnesota Vikings do yesterday in the Motor City? What

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Speaker 1: did they do? They separated the sorrow, they did, and

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Speaker 2: All we did was win dominate.

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Speaker 1: Well, I mean we won by three. I guess I

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Speaker 1: shouldn't go too crazy with it. But the game was

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Speaker 1: first drive. They were in control of that thing for

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Speaker 2: That's the other thing about the NFL.

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Speaker 1: No matter what happens, it always seen like one of

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Speaker 2: No doubt. That's just what it does. It's amazing.

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Speaker 1: Chris writes, I love the Vikings game Sugar Rush, but

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Speaker 1: to twist the theme a bit, who can take a

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Speaker 1: because he can't run three bleeping times? That is koc

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Speaker 1: he can. We'll get to that. That is one of

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Speaker 1: never know, right, I mean, we'll never know what happens

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Speaker 2: It was the third down.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, and you would you would have to think that

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Speaker 6: JJ McCarthy shot down third.

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Speaker 5: And five from his own twenty eight twenty seven to

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Speaker 2: Where you can head home.

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Speaker 6: What an amazing throw by JJ McCarthy. We were talking,

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Speaker 2: We can go home.

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Speaker 3: By a lot or this is why, and it all

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Speaker 1: a different team, right they they've been incredibly good running

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Speaker 1: the ball. You guys have not been very good stopping

441
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Speaker 1: the run, and the Gibbs was completely stymied.

442
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Speaker 2: I thought that change for them a little bit.

443
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Speaker 1: And then on the other side of it, I think

444
00:24:03,040 --> 00:24:07,000
Speaker 1: you're you know, the offensive line obviously get You gave McCarthy,

445
00:24:07,119 --> 00:24:09,280
Speaker 1: your your your quarterback enough time to get some things

446
00:24:09,320 --> 00:24:11,280
Speaker 1: done and even some good runs as well.

447
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean the lion screaming is so important. You know,

448
00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:19,600
Speaker 3: you can you can go into a season, you can

449
00:24:19,640 --> 00:24:22,080
Speaker 3: go and you know through training camp and you can

450
00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:24,399
Speaker 3: feel dang good about your team because of the skill

451
00:24:24,440 --> 00:24:29,320
Speaker 3: positions or or your your secondary things like that. But

452
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Speaker 3: until those those pads come on and and it's for real,

453
00:24:33,320 --> 00:24:35,080
Speaker 3: you don't really know what kind of team you have

454
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Speaker 3: because those trenches are so important. You can't do a

455
00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:42,280
Speaker 3: whole lot if if you're getting sacked, or you can't

456
00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:44,440
Speaker 3: do a whole lot on defense if if you're letting

457
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Speaker 3: them run the ball, and you see it across the league, right,

458
00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:48,960
Speaker 3: the teams that can stop the run, the teams that

459
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Speaker 3: can run the ball and run play action and and

460
00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:54,639
Speaker 3: do so many different things off of the run game. Uh,

461
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Speaker 3: those are the teams that have success. And I think

462
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Speaker 3: if you look at the Super Bowl winning teams over

463
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Speaker 3: the last ten years, maybe over history, you'd probably say

464
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Speaker 3: that most of those teams can stop the run and

465
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Speaker 3: they can run the ball. So, yeah, it was That's

466
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Speaker 3: a huge point. And I think every team goes into

467
00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:13,879
Speaker 3: every week says, Okay, what is it going to take

468
00:25:13,920 --> 00:25:15,840
Speaker 3: to win this game. I think every single team the

469
00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:17,440
Speaker 3: entire league is saying, we got to stop the run

470
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Speaker 3: on defense and we got to run the ball on

471
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Speaker 3: the offense. So it gets a little bit cliche saying,

472
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Speaker 3: but I think that was important for us to win

473
00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:25,800
Speaker 3: that game was to be good on both ends.

474
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Speaker 2: Well, you know, do you mentioned go back to the

475
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Speaker 2: Super Bow year ago?

476
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Speaker 3: Right?

477
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Speaker 2: I mean, what was that story?

478
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Speaker 1: The story was one of the maybe the greatest quarterback

479
00:25:34,119 --> 00:25:36,920
Speaker 1: of all time was tortured because at the line of scrimmage,

480
00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:40,120
Speaker 1: Kansas City just could not handle the rush. So it

481
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Speaker 1: it makes mortal men out of even super men quarterbacks. Right,

482
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Speaker 1: that that happens again and again, and I thought, you know,

483
00:25:47,920 --> 00:25:52,080
Speaker 1: Goff has been unbelieved. I think it was his completion

484
00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:55,200
Speaker 1: percentage going into the game. It was something like seventy

485
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Speaker 1: five percent. Ridiculous. But I thought that you guys did

486
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Speaker 1: a good job making him more uncomfortable than usual. He

487
00:26:02,840 --> 00:26:05,720
Speaker 1: was short hopping some throws where it almost looked like

488
00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:07,800
Speaker 1: I got to get rid of it or I can't

489
00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:10,280
Speaker 1: follow through because I got the rush coming. And to me,

490
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Speaker 1: that was another thing that was different after that, especially

491
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Speaker 1: after that first drive that not not a lot of

492
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Speaker 1: it was as easy for them as they have gotten

493
00:26:19,800 --> 00:26:22,280
Speaker 1: against you guys, really gotten against everybody because they're so

494
00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:23,040
Speaker 1: good offensively.

495
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it's it's crazy because I think you

496
00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:30,119
Speaker 3: look every week and you hear kind of, okay, what

497
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Speaker 3: does it take to win this game from our defensive

498
00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:35,520
Speaker 3: side of thing, and every week's so different because depending

499
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Speaker 3: on the quarterback. Right, some quarterbacks are pocket guys. They

500
00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:40,560
Speaker 3: want to they want to get their three step drop,

501
00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:42,440
Speaker 3: they want to get the ball out quick. Some guys

502
00:26:42,440 --> 00:26:44,520
Speaker 3: are there get their drop and they want to move

503
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Speaker 3: around and they want to get outside of the pocket.

504
00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:50,240
Speaker 3: And so it's interesting to hear those different points when

505
00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:52,240
Speaker 3: you're here in the team meeting, when you're talking about

506
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Speaker 3: what is it going to take to win this week

507
00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:57,119
Speaker 3: as a defense. But I think, you know, hearing that

508
00:26:57,240 --> 00:27:00,000
Speaker 3: on whatever it was Wednesday and then seeing the defense

509
00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:03,480
Speaker 3: executed on Sunday was really impressive because, like you said,

510
00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:07,120
Speaker 3: being able to just get Jared, who's an unbelievable quarterback

511
00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:10,440
Speaker 3: and has played lights out the last few years, really

512
00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:14,520
Speaker 3: his whole career, and a guy that they were able

513
00:27:14,560 --> 00:27:16,520
Speaker 3: to get off his comfort zone, get out of his

514
00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:19,639
Speaker 3: comfort zone and get off his spots where he's really

515
00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:23,600
Speaker 3: really really dangerous when he's just sitting in that pocket

516
00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:26,120
Speaker 3: and he's able to be on time and in rhythm

517
00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:29,199
Speaker 3: and his perfect footwork. You know, I think the defense

518
00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:32,000
Speaker 3: has executed that part of what it takes to win

519
00:27:32,280 --> 00:27:34,440
Speaker 3: very well and was a big part of winning that game.

520
00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:37,600
Speaker 2: No question about it. So obviously lots of talk about JJ.

521
00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:38,200
Speaker 2: It's the returner.

522
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Speaker 1: JJ McCarthy finally been out a long time. It only

523
00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:45,800
Speaker 1: played two games right, one a very good finish in Chicago,

524
00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:48,800
Speaker 1: and the second game it did not go well. So

525
00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:50,960
Speaker 1: there are a lot of questions, Is it even fair

526
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Speaker 1: to expect that he's going to come back in his

527
00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:53,280
Speaker 1: first game and have.

528
00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:55,440
Speaker 2: To go to Detroit and be effective.

529
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Speaker 1: Give me your observations, as a veteran guy who's been

530
00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:00,119
Speaker 1: around a lot of quarterbacks and gotten to know I

531
00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:03,640
Speaker 1: think McCarthy pretty well. Give me your impressions of his

532
00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:06,920
Speaker 1: performance yesterday. What stood out from you, even maybe even

533
00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:10,640
Speaker 1: what you observed during the week and before the game

534
00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:11,640
Speaker 1: in the locker room.

535
00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:15,119
Speaker 3: I even take it further. I think I take it

536
00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:17,520
Speaker 3: back to the summer workouts, the last two summers I've

537
00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:21,119
Speaker 3: had with them. A big reason why I want to

538
00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:23,919
Speaker 3: be a part of this team is because there's just

539
00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:26,879
Speaker 3: something different about him. It's it's not the way he

540
00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:28,119
Speaker 3: throws the ball or how.

541
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Speaker 4: Smart he is. It's not those things.

542
00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:34,000
Speaker 3: You know a lot of NFL quarterbacks have, if not

543
00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:37,479
Speaker 3: all of them, but but there's something different about him.

544
00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:40,920
Speaker 3: And I think it's that just competitive, just that tenacity,

545
00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:44,000
Speaker 3: just that that look in his eye, that energy that

546
00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:48,360
Speaker 3: he brings. Is he's a gamer like it's those are

547
00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:49,960
Speaker 3: the guys you want to be around, the guys that

548
00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:52,400
Speaker 3: show up and the lights are big and they don't

549
00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:54,800
Speaker 3: care what people think. About him or or how many

550
00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:55,320
Speaker 3: yards they.

551
00:28:55,320 --> 00:28:56,160
Speaker 4: Throw for or whatever.

552
00:28:56,200 --> 00:28:58,920
Speaker 3: They just go out there and and spin it and

553
00:28:59,040 --> 00:29:01,120
Speaker 3: let it rip. And that's what you saw on Sunday,

554
00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:03,360
Speaker 3: a guy that was just kind of playing free, uh,

555
00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:07,760
Speaker 3: playing with a little bit of edge to him, and uh.

556
00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:09,080
Speaker 4: It was it was fun to be a part of.

557
00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:12,080
Speaker 3: And And really again, I've seen that since the first

558
00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:13,640
Speaker 3: day that I kind of threw with and which is

559
00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:16,560
Speaker 3: crazy because you probably wouldn't think that in the summer workout.

560
00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:19,520
Speaker 3: You you'd kind of see those tangibles. But but yeah,

561
00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:21,600
Speaker 3: he just kind of has that energy and passion and

562
00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:25,160
Speaker 3: competitives to him that is is really fun to be

563
00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:25,560
Speaker 3: a part of.

564
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Speaker 1: How does it when you you you've talked about that

565
00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:31,080
Speaker 1: before working with him in the summer. How does it

566
00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:33,800
Speaker 1: manifest itself? Is it something you can quantify? Is just

567
00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:36,440
Speaker 1: is it just a feel as someone who's been around

568
00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:37,440
Speaker 1: a lot of quarterbacks.

569
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Speaker 2: Is it something he says? Is it something in his mannerism?

570
00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:43,480
Speaker 1: What gets you to that place where you you think, Okay,

571
00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:45,640
Speaker 1: this guy's got a chance because of something extra.

572
00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:48,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know if it's the right word, but

573
00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:51,200
Speaker 3: maybe aura, maybe like you just there's just like this

574
00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:55,719
Speaker 3: like feeling when you're around certain people, right, that just

575
00:29:55,840 --> 00:30:00,840
Speaker 3: have this competitive tenacity to them and energy like this

576
00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:06,000
Speaker 3: like positive energy vibe to them that is contagious.

577
00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:08,520
Speaker 4: And he's one of those guys. And it's not.

578
00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:11,680
Speaker 3: Just quarterbacks, right, it's it's you just around certain people

579
00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:14,480
Speaker 3: are like, Yeah, this guy's got it. And there's no

580
00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:18,160
Speaker 3: really way to explain that, and is why probably there's

581
00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:20,560
Speaker 3: a lot of draft busts, and there's a lot of

582
00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:24,280
Speaker 3: tough picks, and there's a lot of picks in the fifth, sixth, seventh,

583
00:30:24,520 --> 00:30:27,440
Speaker 3: undrafted rounds that go on to have long careers because

584
00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:29,680
Speaker 3: you just can't quantify that it factor.

585
00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:30,520
Speaker 4: You can't really.

586
00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:34,680
Speaker 3: Put a number on it or a rating on that.

587
00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:37,040
Speaker 3: But some guys haven't. Some guys don't.

588
00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:39,120
Speaker 1: The the So you got the third and I think

589
00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:41,400
Speaker 1: it was six, where if you get the first down,

590
00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:44,880
Speaker 1: the game is effectively over. If you don't, you're you're

591
00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:46,800
Speaker 1: gonna have to punt and you know the Lions are

592
00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:49,080
Speaker 1: gonna have a chance to tie or maybe even even

593
00:30:49,080 --> 00:30:52,000
Speaker 1: win the game. Tell me what you saw on that play.

594
00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:55,400
Speaker 1: It certainly looked like it was a terrific throw, good,

595
00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:59,000
Speaker 1: good adjustment by the receiver as well, but exactly the

596
00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:01,520
Speaker 1: kind of play looking for to get, you know, to

597
00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:04,240
Speaker 1: help him gain even more confidence and obviously in this case,

598
00:31:04,280 --> 00:31:06,320
Speaker 1: to to clinch the victory.

599
00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:08,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I think there's a lot of sides

600
00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:10,880
Speaker 3: to that play. I think, I think, what a great

601
00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:14,600
Speaker 3: play call, knowing that it's probably going to be some

602
00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:18,320
Speaker 3: type of bumpman coverage and kind of give a little

603
00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:21,760
Speaker 3: bit of distraction by the outside two receivers and have Jalen.

604
00:31:21,520 --> 00:31:23,400
Speaker 4: Naylor and at number three being.

605
00:31:23,280 --> 00:31:26,680
Speaker 3: Able to kind of win win his own matchup, but

606
00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:28,840
Speaker 3: also have a little bit of distraction outside of of

607
00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:34,040
Speaker 3: that defender. Great play call, uh, fantastic read by JJ

608
00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:36,920
Speaker 3: and and and phenomenal throw to be able to kind

609
00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:39,320
Speaker 3: of put that on the outside pad for Jalen to

610
00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:42,480
Speaker 3: go adjust and and really probably something that doesn't get

611
00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:46,160
Speaker 3: talked about or won't get talked about, but an unbelievable

612
00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:49,800
Speaker 3: play by Jalen to really close out the by Jalen

613
00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:52,640
Speaker 3: to close out the game a guy who had zero

614
00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:55,400
Speaker 3: catches I believe before that, which I don't think people

615
00:31:55,560 --> 00:31:59,440
Speaker 3: realize how difficult that is to just to to come

616
00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:01,480
Speaker 3: in like that at and not have a lot of

617
00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:05,240
Speaker 3: action throughout the game. And then and then the games

618
00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:08,080
Speaker 3: on the line, uh, third and six, and you got

619
00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:09,560
Speaker 3: to make a play, and you go and and you

620
00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:12,920
Speaker 3: execute perfectly and you make the play uh to win

621
00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:13,280
Speaker 3: the game.

622
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Speaker 4: No one's going to talk about that play.

623
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Speaker 3: But I think everyone in that locker room, uh coaches included,

624
00:32:18,680 --> 00:32:21,160
Speaker 3: know how important that play was. And and and again

625
00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:23,240
Speaker 3: how how great of a play that was by him.

626
00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:25,440
Speaker 2: How What was the feel in the locker room after

627
00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:25,800
Speaker 2: the game.

628
00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:29,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think there was a little bit of a

629
00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:30,640
Speaker 3: little bit of a sigh of relief.

630
00:32:30,760 --> 00:32:30,960
Speaker 4: Right.

631
00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:35,840
Speaker 3: I think in this game there's so much pressure and

632
00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:37,960
Speaker 3: and there's so much You put so much on yourself

633
00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:40,560
Speaker 3: individually as a team because you know how good you

634
00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:42,000
Speaker 3: can be, and you know how much work you put

635
00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:45,720
Speaker 3: into it, and those those wins just sometimes are just

636
00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:47,880
Speaker 3: a little bit of a sigh of relief to say, Okay,

637
00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:49,160
Speaker 3: like we.

638
00:32:48,840 --> 00:32:50,760
Speaker 4: We can do this. You know we can.

639
00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:54,880
Speaker 3: We can we can ride this wave of momentum and

640
00:32:54,920 --> 00:32:56,920
Speaker 3: we can build off this. Right, the most important thing

641
00:32:56,960 --> 00:32:58,640
Speaker 3: is we can build off We got a lot of

642
00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:01,280
Speaker 3: season left, but we know that we can go into

643
00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:03,239
Speaker 3: every game with the confidence that we can go win.

644
00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:07,080
Speaker 3: Because that's a great football team in a tough environment

645
00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:11,200
Speaker 3: against a divisional opponent, which is a huge game, and

646
00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:15,480
Speaker 3: we were able to play really well complimentary football, offense, defense,

647
00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:17,840
Speaker 3: special teams, really all phases kind of playing together like

648
00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:21,280
Speaker 3: that complimentary football standard that that's been set here in

649
00:33:21,280 --> 00:33:25,240
Speaker 3: Minnesota and exciting to see that. But I think JJ

650
00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:27,080
Speaker 3: said it best and I think the Vikings might have

651
00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:29,320
Speaker 3: posted it after the game, But we can't let this

652
00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:32,800
Speaker 3: be an emotional letdown the following week, because sometimes that

653
00:33:32,880 --> 00:33:35,240
Speaker 3: tendency is to happen where you just you feel so

654
00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:37,760
Speaker 3: good about a win and there's there's so much riding

655
00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:39,560
Speaker 3: on one game that the next week you're kind of

656
00:33:39,560 --> 00:33:42,080
Speaker 3: emotionally drained and it doesn't go the way you want it.

657
00:33:42,120 --> 00:33:45,360
Speaker 3: So you got to find a way to reboot, you know,

658
00:33:45,520 --> 00:33:48,000
Speaker 3: refocus and kind of have that same energy that we

659
00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:50,719
Speaker 3: had last week where no one was talking about anything,

660
00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:53,240
Speaker 3: no one was messing around. It was just straight business

661
00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:55,600
Speaker 3: because we knew the task at hand, and we got

662
00:33:55,640 --> 00:33:57,320
Speaker 3: to have that pretty much weekend and week out.

663
00:33:57,560 --> 00:33:58,360
Speaker 4: Moving forward, Well.

664
00:33:58,480 --> 00:34:01,400
Speaker 1: What you're talking about, you see almost every week right

665
00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:04,000
Speaker 1: where you go, you'll get in what looks to be

666
00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:07,080
Speaker 1: an inexplicable outcome on the basis of what's happened the

667
00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:08,799
Speaker 1: several weeks before then. I think it's part of why

668
00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:11,080
Speaker 1: this this league is so popular, because I think it

669
00:34:11,160 --> 00:34:14,839
Speaker 1: keeps hope alive for lots of teams. In that regard you,

670
00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:17,600
Speaker 1: you know you you've played for so long, I guess

671
00:34:17,880 --> 00:34:21,600
Speaker 1: I'll ask you the maybe unanswerable question, how do you

672
00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:25,160
Speaker 1: explain how can any of us explain.

673
00:34:25,640 --> 00:34:28,480
Speaker 2: The the the.

674
00:34:27,680 --> 00:34:31,720
Speaker 1: Contrast in performance between what took place in LA against

675
00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:34,600
Speaker 1: the Chargers and what happened on Sunday in Detroit.

676
00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:38,920
Speaker 3: Well, there's a lot of factors. And that's again, like

677
00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:42,040
Speaker 3: you said, why this game is so great. Uh, it's

678
00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:44,759
Speaker 3: the greatest team game there is because you got to

679
00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:47,320
Speaker 3: have eleven guys doing their job.

680
00:34:48,280 --> 00:34:51,799
Speaker 4: On any given play to have success. And there's all the.

681
00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:54,680
Speaker 3: Complimentary aspect of of you know, you can't just have

682
00:34:54,719 --> 00:34:56,640
Speaker 3: the offense play really well and the defense not played

683
00:34:56,640 --> 00:34:59,359
Speaker 3: great or vice versa or special teams has a couple

684
00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:01,719
Speaker 3: of bad plays change the entire landscape of the game.

685
00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:03,319
Speaker 4: And momentum is so.

686
00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:06,640
Speaker 3: Huge, uh in this game, right, like you can just

687
00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:09,719
Speaker 3: you can get just eaten alive of momentum, or you

688
00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:12,960
Speaker 3: can ride the wave of momentum. Uh and and we've

689
00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:14,839
Speaker 3: been on both sides of it and we've seen how

690
00:35:14,840 --> 00:35:17,520
Speaker 3: that works. But but yeah, I say that all to

691
00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:19,680
Speaker 3: say that there's a lot of factors that that lead

692
00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:22,799
Speaker 3: into the difference and performances. But I also think there's

693
00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:26,040
Speaker 3: a little bit of like there's a little bit of

694
00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:27,719
Speaker 3: a wake up call too, right when you have a

695
00:35:27,719 --> 00:35:30,080
Speaker 3: loss the way we had, there's a little bit of

696
00:35:30,080 --> 00:35:33,000
Speaker 3: everybody kind of saying, Okay, what do I need to

697
00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:34,120
Speaker 3: do better.

698
00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:35,359
Speaker 4: To help this team win?

699
00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:38,640
Speaker 3: What is it this position group, for this position group,

700
00:35:38,680 --> 00:35:40,160
Speaker 3: what do we need to do better? And what do

701
00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:41,920
Speaker 3: we need to focus on and what do we need

702
00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:44,680
Speaker 3: to lock in on to help this team win? Because

703
00:35:44,719 --> 00:35:46,959
Speaker 3: no one know we we don't put all this work

704
00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:50,440
Speaker 3: in this This just all the time and effort and

705
00:35:50,600 --> 00:35:53,879
Speaker 3: energy into what we do to be able to go

706
00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:56,759
Speaker 3: and put it a performance like that. So so I

707
00:35:56,760 --> 00:35:58,759
Speaker 3: think there's a little bit of just kind of refocusing

708
00:35:58,840 --> 00:36:02,720
Speaker 3: and a little wake up which let into a good turnaround.

709
00:36:02,800 --> 00:36:05,680
Speaker 3: But again, we can't let that fade away just because

710
00:36:05,719 --> 00:36:06,960
Speaker 3: we got one win.

711
00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:11,279
Speaker 1: I'm curious how the how KOC was during the week,

712
00:36:11,320 --> 00:36:15,839
Speaker 1: because again, most of the best coaches preached consistency. You know,

713
00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:20,480
Speaker 1: they they don't want to, you know, necessarily show players

714
00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:23,640
Speaker 1: completely different sides of themselves. They because they want consistency

715
00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:28,280
Speaker 1: in the building. But occasionally I would assume a coach

716
00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:33,080
Speaker 1: maybe census the desperation of the situation and goes about

717
00:36:33,120 --> 00:36:37,200
Speaker 1: his business a different way. Did you sense anything different

718
00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:40,640
Speaker 1: you mentioned the Wednesday conversations with the message different, Was

719
00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:41,480
Speaker 1: the approach different?

720
00:36:41,520 --> 00:36:44,160
Speaker 2: Was there anything that said to you where you think you.

721
00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:47,120
Speaker 1: Thought the coach was trying to convey, guys, we got

722
00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:49,040
Speaker 1: to get this thing, we got to get this thing moving.

723
00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:53,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it was pretty clear. You know, we

724
00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:55,919
Speaker 3: had a couple extra days because of the Thursday game

725
00:36:56,120 --> 00:36:58,440
Speaker 3: the week before, and I think it was pretty clear

726
00:36:58,560 --> 00:37:01,359
Speaker 3: throughout the few team meetings that we had maybe an

727
00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:04,759
Speaker 3: extra team meeting that than a normal week. And I

728
00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:08,640
Speaker 3: think it was pretty clear how how Ko, how the team,

729
00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:13,280
Speaker 3: how the leadership felt, and and what needed to change

730
00:37:13,360 --> 00:37:16,359
Speaker 3: very quickly. And so I think that was a very

731
00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:19,920
Speaker 3: clear message and a reiterated message throughout the week and

732
00:37:20,040 --> 00:37:22,600
Speaker 3: into the Saturday night team.

733
00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:23,520
Speaker 4: Meeting before the game.

734
00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:25,279
Speaker 3: I think it was a very clear message, and I

735
00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:29,719
Speaker 3: think guys were very convicted by it or or they

736
00:37:29,719 --> 00:37:31,920
Speaker 3: took it to heart and really just bought into it

737
00:37:32,440 --> 00:37:34,919
Speaker 3: and just gave everything I got and and we knew

738
00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:36,879
Speaker 3: that just because we gave everything we got what didn't

739
00:37:36,920 --> 00:37:39,239
Speaker 3: mean we were gonna win. But I think I think

740
00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:41,200
Speaker 3: everyone could feel good coming out of that game if

741
00:37:41,239 --> 00:37:43,480
Speaker 3: we just went into that week with just a really

742
00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:49,480
Speaker 3: focused and really detailed week of preparation to give us

743
00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:50,399
Speaker 3: the best chance to do that.

744
00:37:50,520 --> 00:37:53,920
Speaker 1: Is it melodramatic to say that you guys saved your

745
00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:55,200
Speaker 1: season yesterday.

746
00:37:57,719 --> 00:38:01,120
Speaker 4: Oh that's a great question. Yeah, I think so. I mean,

747
00:38:01,160 --> 00:38:04,320
Speaker 4: I think, I think, I think, uh, it.

748
00:38:04,200 --> 00:38:08,479
Speaker 3: Definitely helped give us a lot of confidence of where

749
00:38:08,480 --> 00:38:12,640
Speaker 3: we can go this year now, just because again, every

750
00:38:12,760 --> 00:38:16,600
Speaker 3: game in this league means so much that that next

751
00:38:16,600 --> 00:38:20,040
Speaker 3: week is just as big as last week. And I think,

752
00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:22,520
Speaker 3: I think you have to have that mindset every single week.

753
00:38:22,560 --> 00:38:25,520
Speaker 3: It has to feel almost like your season's on the line,

754
00:38:25,640 --> 00:38:26,160
Speaker 3: because it is.

755
00:38:26,280 --> 00:38:26,640
Speaker 4: It is.

756
00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:28,640
Speaker 3: You know, you look back at at the end of

757
00:38:28,640 --> 00:38:31,560
Speaker 3: these seasons and you know, this is my thirteenth year,

758
00:38:32,120 --> 00:38:35,439
Speaker 3: and I think every season you look back and you say, man,

759
00:38:35,600 --> 00:38:38,839
Speaker 3: that one game, right, or two games, that's why we

760
00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:41,480
Speaker 3: made the playoffs, or or or what one game or no,

761
00:38:41,880 --> 00:38:44,560
Speaker 3: there's the two three plays that stick out in your head.

762
00:38:44,560 --> 00:38:47,680
Speaker 3: They're like, man, that's why we missed the playoffs. And

763
00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:49,920
Speaker 3: so I think with the more experience you have in that,

764
00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:52,600
Speaker 3: you just realize, like, man, this this week coming up

765
00:38:52,640 --> 00:38:54,880
Speaker 3: is huge cause it's it's the only one we have

766
00:38:54,960 --> 00:38:57,279
Speaker 3: and we gotta we gotta be at our best uh

767
00:38:57,400 --> 00:38:58,880
Speaker 3: to be able to win it and give us a

768
00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:02,279
Speaker 3: chance to all get into the dance and make a

769
00:39:02,360 --> 00:39:02,759
Speaker 3: run there.

770
00:39:03,200 --> 00:39:05,560
Speaker 1: Last question for you, I'm not gonna and I promise

771
00:39:05,600 --> 00:39:07,719
Speaker 1: I'm not going to ask this every week because the

772
00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:10,319
Speaker 1: answer probably going to be the same. But you know,

773
00:39:10,360 --> 00:39:12,879
Speaker 1: when I have you on Texters say, you know, how

774
00:39:13,040 --> 00:39:17,120
Speaker 1: is this for Adam not seeing that much action or

775
00:39:17,120 --> 00:39:20,200
Speaker 1: not seeing the ball? And I think you knew your

776
00:39:20,239 --> 00:39:22,239
Speaker 1: situation probably when you came here was going to be

777
00:39:22,239 --> 00:39:24,560
Speaker 1: different than it was when you hear the first time.

778
00:39:24,600 --> 00:39:27,479
Speaker 1: But you are a competitive guy and you care and

779
00:39:27,560 --> 00:39:29,640
Speaker 1: I know you care about winning more than anything. But

780
00:39:29,760 --> 00:39:32,120
Speaker 1: you it's only human nature to want to be a

781
00:39:32,160 --> 00:39:34,839
Speaker 1: part of it. So how are you dealing with that

782
00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:37,480
Speaker 1: part of it? How are you processing that part of it?

783
00:39:37,520 --> 00:39:40,759
Speaker 1: Is that getting harder as the season goes on, is

784
00:39:40,760 --> 00:39:42,759
Speaker 1: it No. I know where I am, I know who

785
00:39:42,800 --> 00:39:44,839
Speaker 1: I am. I'm okay with this. This is just part

786
00:39:44,840 --> 00:39:45,279
Speaker 1: of the deal.

787
00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:51,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, I think as a competitors, as a

788
00:39:51,480 --> 00:39:55,480
Speaker 3: very confident person, I think there's there's a big party

789
00:39:55,520 --> 00:39:57,839
Speaker 3: that knows what you can do and how you can

790
00:39:57,920 --> 00:39:58,920
Speaker 3: impact and help.

791
00:39:58,760 --> 00:39:59,279
Speaker 4: A team win.

792
00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:01,399
Speaker 3: But at the end of the day, those are those

793
00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:03,680
Speaker 3: are things that I can't control. Right All I can

794
00:40:03,680 --> 00:40:07,279
Speaker 3: control is my attitude, my effort. I can control what

795
00:40:07,360 --> 00:40:10,959
Speaker 3: kind of teammate, what kind of leader I am, through

796
00:40:10,960 --> 00:40:14,000
Speaker 3: any circumstance. And I think that's been my focus is

797
00:40:14,040 --> 00:40:17,120
Speaker 3: just control what I can control, be at my best,

798
00:40:17,280 --> 00:40:19,840
Speaker 3: really take care of my body and try to be

799
00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:24,680
Speaker 3: one hundred percent healthy as much as I can every Sunday,

800
00:40:24,719 --> 00:40:26,640
Speaker 3: and and let it all play out at the end

801
00:40:26,640 --> 00:40:28,640
Speaker 3: of the day. We have a lot of great football

802
00:40:28,680 --> 00:40:31,200
Speaker 3: players on this team. There's a there's a ton of

803
00:40:31,239 --> 00:40:35,240
Speaker 3: receivers in that receiver room that can make plays. And again,

804
00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:38,000
Speaker 3: for me, I know, I know that I have to

805
00:40:38,040 --> 00:40:40,320
Speaker 3: be the best version of myself every single day, and

806
00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:41,040
Speaker 3: that's who I'm going to.

807
00:40:41,040 --> 00:40:42,040
Speaker 4: Be, and that's my focus.

808
00:40:42,160 --> 00:40:45,080
Speaker 1: I really appreciate the honest answer and a really good

809
00:40:45,120 --> 00:40:48,799
Speaker 1: insight again today and congratulations and we'll talk next week.

810
00:40:48,800 --> 00:40:51,400
Speaker 4: Thanks Adam, all right, thank you talk to I.

811
00:40:51,400 --> 00:40:53,760
Speaker 1: Appreciate you, Adam feeling with I think some good stuff

812
00:40:53,800 --> 00:40:55,600
Speaker 1: on the state of the team and what this last

813
00:40:55,640 --> 00:41:00,680
Speaker 1: week was like. And you know, he states, really it's

814
00:41:00,719 --> 00:41:06,400
Speaker 1: the obvious, but it's true. The door was opened opened

815
00:41:06,440 --> 00:41:08,440
Speaker 1: by what the Vikings were able to do in Detroit

816
00:41:08,719 --> 00:41:11,319
Speaker 1: when very few people, maybe outside of that locker room,

817
00:41:11,360 --> 00:41:13,440
Speaker 1: expected that they were going to do it.

818
00:41:14,239 --> 00:41:16,240
Speaker 2: Not in my case necessarily because I didn't.

819
00:41:16,040 --> 00:41:17,719
Speaker 1: Think they were capable of it, but I wasn't sure

820
00:41:17,719 --> 00:41:20,600
Speaker 1: they were capable of it right now coming off of

821
00:41:20,600 --> 00:41:22,160
Speaker 1: what they come off of and sort of where the

822
00:41:22,200 --> 00:41:25,120
Speaker 1: team seemed to be with still some significant health in question.

823
00:41:25,880 --> 00:41:29,200
Speaker 1: But it's the age old story. We talked about this

824
00:41:29,239 --> 00:41:31,239
Speaker 1: with the Gophers after they beat Nebraska.

825
00:41:31,680 --> 00:41:32,239
Speaker 2: Great win.

826
00:41:33,280 --> 00:41:36,640
Speaker 1: But if you follow it up by what the Viking

827
00:41:36,719 --> 00:41:39,320
Speaker 1: the Gophers did against Iowa, if the Vikings follow it

828
00:41:39,400 --> 00:41:41,360
Speaker 1: up by lay in an egg against Baltimore, it'll go

829
00:41:41,400 --> 00:41:45,040
Speaker 1: away fast because that's the way this league works. And

830
00:41:45,080 --> 00:41:48,879
Speaker 1: the team. Remember we're now five hundred right four and four.

831
00:41:49,920 --> 00:41:51,600
Speaker 1: We already have lost one more game than we did

832
00:41:51,600 --> 00:41:55,160
Speaker 1: a year ago. So it's the deal is you have

833
00:41:55,239 --> 00:42:00,800
Speaker 1: to use the opportunity to try to build on something.

834
00:42:00,840 --> 00:42:04,399
Speaker 1: And I think he was honest about saying, well, maybe

835
00:42:04,440 --> 00:42:06,240
Speaker 1: it did give us a little confidence that we needed

836
00:42:06,280 --> 00:42:09,400
Speaker 1: where you almost need you can talk to talk about

837
00:42:10,040 --> 00:42:11,799
Speaker 1: here's what we're capable of, but here's what we can do,

838
00:42:12,239 --> 00:42:13,840
Speaker 1: but you sort of have to do it at some point.

839
00:42:13,880 --> 00:42:16,560
Speaker 1: And the fact that they did it in Detroit against

840
00:42:16,600 --> 00:42:20,600
Speaker 1: a good team that I don't think was necessarily playing

841
00:42:20,640 --> 00:42:23,360
Speaker 1: its best. He'd mentioned that he thought they didn't play badly.

842
00:42:23,840 --> 00:42:28,799
Speaker 1: They played sporadically. We got a massive turnover, which will

843
00:42:28,840 --> 00:42:30,640
Speaker 1: be one of the talking points as well, which is

844
00:42:30,760 --> 00:42:33,120
Speaker 1: a great defensive play, by the way.

845
00:42:34,040 --> 00:42:37,920
Speaker 2: But you even if you say.

846
00:42:37,840 --> 00:42:41,240
Speaker 1: All week and where we know we're good and we're confident,

847
00:42:41,520 --> 00:42:43,759
Speaker 1: you got to have something that you can you know,

848
00:42:43,880 --> 00:42:47,280
Speaker 1: evidence that indeed that shows maybe you can take it somewhere.

849
00:42:47,760 --> 00:42:51,880
Speaker 1: And that's exactly what took place in a very entertaining

850
00:42:52,840 --> 00:42:53,640
Speaker 1: ball game as well.

851
00:42:53,719 --> 00:42:55,360
Speaker 2: Twenty seven twenty four was at the final.

852
00:42:55,760 --> 00:42:57,880
Speaker 1: That sounds right, That sounds pretty close to me at

853
00:42:57,960 --> 00:43:02,160
Speaker 1: fairness to the Savage review. Yes me included when I said, well,

854
00:43:02,239 --> 00:43:05,120
Speaker 1: we're happy for Pat Riley, but he has Magic Johnson

855
00:43:05,160 --> 00:43:08,279
Speaker 1: to deal with. Yeah, Koc in a way if you

856
00:43:08,360 --> 00:43:12,160
Speaker 1: hear everything that Brady and Burkhart were saying yesterday and

857
00:43:12,360 --> 00:43:15,920
Speaker 1: one of the sideline reporters, probably Rinaldi, and then stuff

858
00:43:15,920 --> 00:43:17,920
Speaker 1: that he said after the game as well, when he

859
00:43:17,960 --> 00:43:21,400
Speaker 1: basically said Detroit thinks they're the tough team getting off

860
00:43:21,440 --> 00:43:23,919
Speaker 1: the bus. We have to be the more physical team.

861
00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:27,719
Speaker 1: That's essentially it's a variation of the same theme it

862
00:43:27,800 --> 00:43:30,279
Speaker 1: is where we got to push them around a little bit.

863
00:43:30,400 --> 00:43:32,719
Speaker 1: We can't get pushed around and expect to win this game.

864
00:43:32,760 --> 00:43:34,839
Speaker 1: You have to challenge them. You have to make them

865
00:43:34,920 --> 00:43:38,040
Speaker 1: uncomfortable in a way that they're not usually and that's

866
00:43:38,080 --> 00:43:39,920
Speaker 1: what they did. They did it the line of scrimmage,

867
00:43:39,920 --> 00:43:43,720
Speaker 1: both offensively and defensively. So yeah, I mean, I'm waiting

868
00:43:43,719 --> 00:43:45,680
Speaker 1: for all the other people were mocking me about the

869
00:43:45,760 --> 00:43:47,600
Speaker 1: pat Riley plant your feet think, So.

870
00:43:47,520 --> 00:43:48,640
Speaker 2: Who's our magic Johnson?

871
00:43:48,719 --> 00:43:48,840
Speaker 6: Is it?

872
00:43:48,920 --> 00:43:49,160
Speaker 2: JJ?

873
00:43:50,560 --> 00:43:53,160
Speaker 1: He's got a great smile like magic. He plays with Joy,

874
00:43:53,440 --> 00:43:56,840
Speaker 1: talks about playing with Joy, doesn't he. Uh, Yeah, I

875
00:43:56,840 --> 00:43:59,040
Speaker 1: guess you would have to be might be a bit

876
00:43:59,080 --> 00:44:03,440
Speaker 1: of a PST nomination. You start Karty cutout for your

877
00:44:03,480 --> 00:44:05,680
Speaker 1: house yet for the holiday party, so we know that

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Speaker 1: we've made it to the right spot. It's just it's

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Speaker 1: just a matter of time. A lot of good texts

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Speaker 1: are coming in. We'll get to some of those. Nacho

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Speaker 1: is at five, correct, the two Johnny Athletic from Brooklyn

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Speaker 1: where the Wolves would be in action tonight, a game

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Speaker 1: you can hear on the fan beginning at six. That's

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Speaker 1: why we're out a half hour early. We got some

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Speaker 1: good Vikings talking points to continue our Vikings, Lions conversation,

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Speaker 1: and who knows what else.

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Speaker 2: Stay tuned.