1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:05,440 Speaker 1: Dx FM, Pittsburgh and iHeartRadio Station Guaranteed Human. 2 00:00:09,600 --> 00:00:14,080 Speaker 2: The Oscars may be over, but the Penguins are ready 3 00:00:14,120 --> 00:00:17,560 Speaker 2: for one battle after another. They're in the midst of 4 00:00:17,600 --> 00:00:20,320 Speaker 2: a ten game stretch where none of their opponents are 5 00:00:20,440 --> 00:00:25,720 Speaker 2: playoff teams. Their schedule right now is like cutting for rocks, 6 00:00:26,520 --> 00:00:29,200 Speaker 2: and they've been doing it with two of their weapons 7 00:00:29,240 --> 00:00:32,480 Speaker 2: on the shelf. Sidney Crosby is still out and we're 8 00:00:32,520 --> 00:00:37,640 Speaker 2: still crying pearls about that, or at least clutching them. However, 9 00:00:37,760 --> 00:00:40,959 Speaker 2: one of the NHL's sinners, if Getty Malkin, will come 10 00:00:41,000 --> 00:00:43,360 Speaker 2: back into the lineup tonight off of his suspension to 11 00:00:43,400 --> 00:00:46,879 Speaker 2: take on the Frankenstein of the Western Conference in the 12 00:00:46,920 --> 00:00:49,640 Speaker 2: Colorado Avalanche right here on one oh five nine the X. 13 00:00:50,360 --> 00:00:52,400 Speaker 2: And it's a good thing the Penguins rally to come 14 00:00:52,400 --> 00:00:56,240 Speaker 2: back from two goals down against Utah. Otherwise this road 15 00:00:56,320 --> 00:00:59,920 Speaker 2: trip could have been reduced to fire and ash before 16 00:01:00,160 --> 00:01:03,800 Speaker 2: was even over. The point is the Penguins need Maulken 17 00:01:03,880 --> 00:01:06,760 Speaker 2: and Crosby back in top four as soon as possible, 18 00:01:07,000 --> 00:01:12,080 Speaker 2: and that's for reasons in the standings, not just sentimental value. 19 00:01:13,160 --> 00:01:15,200 Speaker 1: And by the way, Gino come. 20 00:01:15,040 --> 00:01:17,760 Speaker 2: Back and score tonight, would you you haven't done that 21 00:01:17,800 --> 00:01:20,640 Speaker 2: in your last ten games. We need a goal more 22 00:01:20,680 --> 00:01:24,760 Speaker 2: than once every blue moon. Now, if you're like me, 23 00:01:25,000 --> 00:01:27,640 Speaker 2: you're probably thinking yourself, gosh, I only got one of 24 00:01:27,640 --> 00:01:30,640 Speaker 2: those references, maybe too, and you probably think one of 25 00:01:30,640 --> 00:01:34,640 Speaker 2: those two was Blue Moon the Beer. But I'm in 26 00:01:34,720 --> 00:01:37,080 Speaker 2: your camp because I didn't see any of the Oscar 27 00:01:37,160 --> 00:01:40,440 Speaker 2: movies either, not a one. I've been too busy watching 28 00:01:40,480 --> 00:01:43,680 Speaker 2: Americans play for Italy and Britain in the World Baseball 29 00:01:43,720 --> 00:01:47,600 Speaker 2: Classic to put on Netflix. I'm Tim Benz and this 30 00:01:47,680 --> 00:01:50,360 Speaker 2: is the Mark Madden Show. I'm in for Mark Today. 31 00:01:50,360 --> 00:01:52,480 Speaker 2: Tommy Radio joins me right now, Tom did you see 32 00:01:52,520 --> 00:01:54,960 Speaker 2: a single Oscar movie this year? No, that really stood 33 00:01:54,960 --> 00:01:56,520 Speaker 2: out to me last night as well, because I did 34 00:01:56,520 --> 00:01:59,920 Speaker 2: tune in for the monologue. Huge Conan O'Brien fan thought 35 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:02,320 Speaker 2: he killed it. But he did that classic thing where 36 00:02:02,360 --> 00:02:04,560 Speaker 2: you insert yourself into the movies. You know what I mean. 37 00:02:04,600 --> 00:02:07,480 Speaker 2: It's like the opening montage. And that's my main takeaway 38 00:02:07,600 --> 00:02:10,239 Speaker 2: was I knew what some of these movies were referencing, 39 00:02:10,320 --> 00:02:13,160 Speaker 2: like when he dressed up like Amy Madigan's character from Weapons. 40 00:02:13,200 --> 00:02:15,160 Speaker 2: I got it because you see that all over the internet. 41 00:02:15,440 --> 00:02:17,160 Speaker 2: But I've not seen a single one of these. I 42 00:02:17,240 --> 00:02:20,120 Speaker 2: still haven't seen that the internet. You're talking about the giant. 43 00:02:20,120 --> 00:02:21,840 Speaker 2: She looks like a clown almost, with like the big 44 00:02:21,880 --> 00:02:24,120 Speaker 2: red like wig and the huge lipstick. I'm sure if 45 00:02:24,160 --> 00:02:26,239 Speaker 2: I put up a picture of your eye, you'd recognize 46 00:02:26,560 --> 00:02:27,239 Speaker 2: something would trigger. 47 00:02:27,280 --> 00:02:29,520 Speaker 1: But yeah, other than that, like, other than like. 48 00:02:29,560 --> 00:02:33,400 Speaker 2: Obscure references to it based off social media, I couldn't 49 00:02:33,480 --> 00:02:35,280 Speaker 2: keep up at all. I was pinchhitting on the DV 50 00:02:35,440 --> 00:02:38,440 Speaker 2: morning show in between pinchhitting here last week, Oh were 51 00:02:38,440 --> 00:02:39,000 Speaker 2: either today? 52 00:02:39,160 --> 00:02:39,760 Speaker 1: No, I was there? 53 00:02:39,840 --> 00:02:41,079 Speaker 2: Say a bad place to be there today if you 54 00:02:41,120 --> 00:02:43,639 Speaker 2: didn't watch any of those movies, right exactly, But I 55 00:02:43,680 --> 00:02:45,399 Speaker 2: mean it came up a couple of times last week 56 00:02:45,480 --> 00:02:48,440 Speaker 2: as well in the build up, and uh Abby is 57 00:02:48,480 --> 00:02:51,040 Speaker 2: insisting that I would like one battle after another, and 58 00:02:51,080 --> 00:02:52,760 Speaker 2: I think she's probably right about that. I think I 59 00:02:52,800 --> 00:02:54,760 Speaker 2: want to see that one more than any of the others, 60 00:02:54,800 --> 00:02:57,680 Speaker 2: because I mean, Leonardo DiCaprio pretty much bats a thousand 61 00:02:57,680 --> 00:02:59,760 Speaker 2: as far as I'm concerned, and I hear just so 62 00:02:59,840 --> 00:03:02,200 Speaker 2: much great things about it. But it hit me last 63 00:03:02,280 --> 00:03:04,360 Speaker 2: night because what was I watching where it was on 64 00:03:04,440 --> 00:03:06,000 Speaker 2: in the background, Oh, it was a channel four. 65 00:03:06,040 --> 00:03:06,560 Speaker 1: That's what it was. 66 00:03:06,600 --> 00:03:08,240 Speaker 2: I was at Channel four getting ready to tape up 67 00:03:08,240 --> 00:03:10,360 Speaker 2: my segment with Ashley Liotis, and so it was just on. 68 00:03:10,480 --> 00:03:11,960 Speaker 2: It was on in the background, and they were doing 69 00:03:12,040 --> 00:03:14,480 Speaker 2: the in memoriam. And I'm thinking to myself, in ten 70 00:03:14,560 --> 00:03:16,960 Speaker 2: years when they do the in memoriam, maybe twenty, I'm 71 00:03:17,000 --> 00:03:19,000 Speaker 2: not going to know anybody who's dead. 72 00:03:19,680 --> 00:03:21,679 Speaker 1: All I cared about was who was dead in the 73 00:03:21,720 --> 00:03:23,160 Speaker 1: in memorium. That meant more to me. 74 00:03:23,160 --> 00:03:25,160 Speaker 2: Than any of the awards going out, because I knew 75 00:03:25,160 --> 00:03:27,200 Speaker 2: all those people. I don't know any of the people 76 00:03:27,240 --> 00:03:29,480 Speaker 2: who got awards last night. Weren't there some pretty big 77 00:03:29,480 --> 00:03:31,920 Speaker 2: snubs in the in memoriam too? There always is. I 78 00:03:31,919 --> 00:03:33,920 Speaker 2: think they left off James Vanderbeek. Well, what were we 79 00:03:33,919 --> 00:03:36,120 Speaker 2: met here in Pittsburgh? Because Wolf got left out of 80 00:03:36,120 --> 00:03:39,880 Speaker 2: the sun. Oh, the NFL honors the NFL even worse 81 00:03:39,960 --> 00:03:42,640 Speaker 2: because it was NFL specific. I think that I think 82 00:03:42,680 --> 00:03:45,040 Speaker 2: I'm looking up right now about James Vanderbeek. They couldn't 83 00:03:45,040 --> 00:03:48,080 Speaker 2: squeeze him in in time. Come on, we're giving away 84 00:03:48,120 --> 00:03:51,200 Speaker 2: awards for major film editing. You couldn't get a clip 85 00:03:51,320 --> 00:03:54,280 Speaker 2: from Varsity Blues in there for James Vanderbeek, James Vanderbeek, 86 00:03:54,720 --> 00:03:58,040 Speaker 2: Eric Dane, guy from Grey's Anatomy, and Malcolm Jamal Warner 87 00:03:58,080 --> 00:04:00,760 Speaker 2: were all excluded from the in memoriam both in movies 88 00:04:00,800 --> 00:04:04,280 Speaker 2: though those last two, I mean they're dead right, just 89 00:04:04,280 --> 00:04:06,640 Speaker 2: just throw them up there. 90 00:04:06,280 --> 00:04:09,600 Speaker 1: I think Dane for sure was. But Vanderbeek's a terrible. 91 00:04:09,800 --> 00:04:12,640 Speaker 2: That's a bad one because it's like so obvious, like 92 00:04:12,680 --> 00:04:14,960 Speaker 2: you know, your montage is done, and then he dies 93 00:04:15,080 --> 00:04:16,279 Speaker 2: and it's such a sudden death. 94 00:04:16,360 --> 00:04:16,800 Speaker 1: He's young. 95 00:04:17,000 --> 00:04:20,760 Speaker 2: There's gotta be one guy who's this in yew There's 96 00:04:20,760 --> 00:04:23,240 Speaker 2: got to be somebody who right now today for the 97 00:04:23,279 --> 00:04:26,360 Speaker 2: twenty twenty seven in Memoriam is thinking who died today? 98 00:04:26,560 --> 00:04:28,440 Speaker 1: Here's the list? A list that's your only job. 99 00:04:28,480 --> 00:04:32,240 Speaker 2: You have one job, and you've got Vanderbeek two weeks out. 100 00:04:32,279 --> 00:04:33,640 Speaker 1: You put Vanderbeek in. 101 00:04:34,200 --> 00:04:36,039 Speaker 2: But there is a line, right, like you have to 102 00:04:36,040 --> 00:04:38,239 Speaker 2: be famous enough to get back into the end account. 103 00:04:38,360 --> 00:04:40,400 Speaker 2: Oh no, I'm not saying that he's not the line. 104 00:04:40,440 --> 00:04:42,120 Speaker 2: He's over the line. He's definitely there. But isn't there 105 00:04:42,120 --> 00:04:44,800 Speaker 2: a Mendoza right? Like you can't if you're like a 106 00:04:44,839 --> 00:04:46,919 Speaker 2: B or C list guy, Like if a Steven Baldwin 107 00:04:46,920 --> 00:04:48,800 Speaker 2: passed away like a week before the Oscars. He'd just 108 00:04:48,839 --> 00:04:50,640 Speaker 2: be like, we're good on that one. But if Alec, 109 00:04:51,040 --> 00:04:55,240 Speaker 2: you got a Russian for Alec. Yeah. I have not 110 00:04:55,520 --> 00:04:59,400 Speaker 2: seen movies in a long time. Although I understand that 111 00:04:59,480 --> 00:05:02,200 Speaker 2: the Peaky Linder's movie is coming out on the twentieth. 112 00:05:02,200 --> 00:05:04,159 Speaker 2: I never watched that show. You didn't watch the shows 113 00:05:04,240 --> 00:05:06,400 Speaker 2: that wouldn't be up my alley either. I've fallen off 114 00:05:06,400 --> 00:05:09,279 Speaker 2: of movies too. The Running Man. I saw that, but 115 00:05:09,600 --> 00:05:11,440 Speaker 2: that's just because Mark keeps talking about it. So you 116 00:05:11,480 --> 00:05:13,640 Speaker 2: watch it and it's a really good movie. It's entertaining, 117 00:05:13,640 --> 00:05:15,880 Speaker 2: not Oscar level. But I'm right there with you, Like 118 00:05:16,240 --> 00:05:19,159 Speaker 2: movies just haven't really I haven't ever since COVID. I 119 00:05:19,160 --> 00:05:21,480 Speaker 2: don't think I've really caught back onto like that movie Bug, 120 00:05:21,520 --> 00:05:23,279 Speaker 2: where like I got to see all the current movies 121 00:05:23,320 --> 00:05:25,360 Speaker 2: that are out. There is something to be said for 122 00:05:25,520 --> 00:05:28,560 Speaker 2: going out and seeing a movie because you are inclined 123 00:05:28,600 --> 00:05:30,840 Speaker 2: to just go out a little bit now because you're 124 00:05:30,920 --> 00:05:34,600 Speaker 2: home all the time Monday through Thursday or Sunday through Thursday. 125 00:05:34,800 --> 00:05:36,560 Speaker 2: You want to go out on Friday and Saturday. But 126 00:05:36,600 --> 00:05:38,800 Speaker 2: because you're not inclined to go to the movies anymore 127 00:05:38,839 --> 00:05:41,520 Speaker 2: in person. It's sort of a self defeating prophecy at 128 00:05:41,520 --> 00:05:44,320 Speaker 2: that point, is it not. It absolutely is, because then 129 00:05:44,320 --> 00:05:47,240 Speaker 2: you're just not inclined to watch on Netflix. Or you 130 00:05:47,279 --> 00:05:48,840 Speaker 2: know what I do all the time now is I'll 131 00:05:48,880 --> 00:05:50,920 Speaker 2: take movies and chop them up on the treadmill at 132 00:05:50,920 --> 00:05:52,719 Speaker 2: the gym. But then I'm not getting the full effect 133 00:05:52,800 --> 00:05:55,000 Speaker 2: of the movie. It's hard for me to sit down 134 00:05:55,400 --> 00:05:57,840 Speaker 2: and watch two hours of a movie or two and 135 00:05:57,880 --> 00:06:00,520 Speaker 2: a half hours of a movie, to dedicate that much time. 136 00:06:01,080 --> 00:06:03,960 Speaker 2: Not on a Friday or Saturday, when you know, the wife, 137 00:06:04,000 --> 00:06:06,640 Speaker 2: the girlfriend, whatever, your friends, you want to go out 138 00:06:06,680 --> 00:06:09,800 Speaker 2: and do stuff. And for those kind of scenarios like 139 00:06:09,800 --> 00:06:11,680 Speaker 2: when you're on the treadmill or I'm sure you're taking 140 00:06:11,680 --> 00:06:13,480 Speaker 2: notes for your column or something like that, or I'm 141 00:06:13,480 --> 00:06:15,680 Speaker 2: taking notes for the shows that I'm on, I want 142 00:06:15,680 --> 00:06:17,599 Speaker 2: to watch movies that I know, you know what I mean, Like, 143 00:06:17,640 --> 00:06:19,400 Speaker 2: I want to see movies that are on that I 144 00:06:19,440 --> 00:06:21,200 Speaker 2: can kind of zone out to, so I'm not like 145 00:06:21,279 --> 00:06:23,279 Speaker 2: kind of watching like, oh, I need to watch one 146 00:06:23,279 --> 00:06:25,839 Speaker 2: battle after another. I got some show prep and some 147 00:06:25,839 --> 00:06:28,359 Speaker 2: Mark stuff I gotta do tonight. Let's throw that on 148 00:06:28,480 --> 00:06:30,120 Speaker 2: in the background. You know what I mean, I'm gonna 149 00:06:30,160 --> 00:06:33,440 Speaker 2: throw on something that I've seen. I'm gonna throw or something. Yeah, 150 00:06:33,600 --> 00:06:35,920 Speaker 2: like I've seen this same five times. There's a new 151 00:06:36,040 --> 00:06:39,200 Speaker 2: series of Ted out on Peacock. How is one battle 152 00:06:39,240 --> 00:06:41,440 Speaker 2: after another supposed to compete with the new teds? You 153 00:06:41,760 --> 00:06:44,200 Speaker 2: watch the Ted series too. I watched the first Ted series. 154 00:06:44,240 --> 00:06:46,839 Speaker 2: Not bad, good season, really liked it. Yes, so far, 155 00:06:47,440 --> 00:06:49,200 Speaker 2: the first two that I'm on right now not as 156 00:06:49,200 --> 00:06:53,040 Speaker 2: good as the last season. But the theme of the 157 00:06:53,120 --> 00:06:56,520 Speaker 2: Missus Robinson, the graduate thing that they're doing with Ted 158 00:06:56,839 --> 00:07:00,760 Speaker 2: and like this cougar woman that he's doing housework's two Yeah, 159 00:07:00,760 --> 00:07:05,960 Speaker 2: that's episode two and season two. He has one physical 160 00:07:06,640 --> 00:07:07,960 Speaker 2: shortcoming Ted does. 161 00:07:07,839 --> 00:07:09,359 Speaker 1: That you might think would come into imagine. 162 00:07:09,440 --> 00:07:11,440 Speaker 2: Yes, but they figure out a way to overcome that, 163 00:07:11,920 --> 00:07:13,560 Speaker 2: and we know that he's fine because he ends up 164 00:07:13,600 --> 00:07:15,720 Speaker 2: marrying Britney Lynn, right is that her name in the 165 00:07:15,880 --> 00:07:16,480 Speaker 2: or Tammy Lane? 166 00:07:16,520 --> 00:07:17,080 Speaker 1: Tammy Lane? 167 00:07:17,120 --> 00:07:19,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, a real Ted and TAED two is all about 168 00:07:19,680 --> 00:07:21,680 Speaker 2: well turn up there as you heard in the movies. 169 00:07:22,040 --> 00:07:24,720 Speaker 2: No turn up involved in this one plus talk of 170 00:07:24,760 --> 00:07:28,080 Speaker 2: that yet I I can't watch movies because I'm so 171 00:07:28,120 --> 00:07:30,880 Speaker 2: consumed with the greatest event in the history of modern sports, 172 00:07:30,880 --> 00:07:33,200 Speaker 2: which is the World Baseball Class. I guess it's enthralling. 173 00:07:33,240 --> 00:07:35,880 Speaker 2: I've never seen baseball like that like it was last night, 174 00:07:35,880 --> 00:07:37,760 Speaker 2: except one hundred and sixty two games a year. Like, 175 00:07:37,800 --> 00:07:40,320 Speaker 2: I mean, it was a good baseball game. Yeah, I'm 176 00:07:40,360 --> 00:07:42,000 Speaker 2: exaggerating the other way. It was better than that. It 177 00:07:42,040 --> 00:07:45,119 Speaker 2: was better than that, But I mean, it wasn't game changing, though. 178 00:07:45,880 --> 00:07:48,560 Speaker 2: I don't think it's worthy of some of the hype 179 00:07:48,600 --> 00:07:51,760 Speaker 2: that I think pep baseball seam heads decided this had 180 00:07:51,800 --> 00:07:54,280 Speaker 2: to be as good as the Olympics, so they're preordaining 181 00:07:54,320 --> 00:07:56,040 Speaker 2: that it's as good as the Olympics. You can see 182 00:07:56,320 --> 00:07:59,520 Speaker 2: through the lines of the hyperbolieve how like Madden said 183 00:07:59,560 --> 00:08:01,240 Speaker 2: he saw this. I didn't see this headline anywhere, but 184 00:08:01,240 --> 00:08:03,000 Speaker 2: when we were doing the podcast, he said he saw 185 00:08:03,120 --> 00:08:07,320 Speaker 2: Paul Skeens dominates Great Dominican Republic lineup. 186 00:08:07,440 --> 00:08:11,080 Speaker 1: That's just dominate. Six hits. He'd gave him six hits. 187 00:08:11,120 --> 00:08:13,280 Speaker 2: Junior Cameraro took him deep in a game that was 188 00:08:13,640 --> 00:08:16,040 Speaker 2: very Judge bailed his ass out. Judge bailed him out 189 00:08:16,040 --> 00:08:18,760 Speaker 2: on that one, and he didn't strike out many. He 190 00:08:18,840 --> 00:08:21,080 Speaker 2: wasn't overpowering only a two k's, right, let's think those 191 00:08:21,080 --> 00:08:24,520 Speaker 2: are two k's. It wasn't his overpowering stuff, but just 192 00:08:24,560 --> 00:08:28,640 Speaker 2: we speak in such hyperbolic terms like Skeens was supposed 193 00:08:28,680 --> 00:08:30,200 Speaker 2: to go out and dominate. So we're not going to 194 00:08:30,240 --> 00:08:32,880 Speaker 2: accept just a very good, solid meat and potatoes performance 195 00:08:32,920 --> 00:08:34,839 Speaker 2: by him, because that's boring. He needed to be great. 196 00:08:34,960 --> 00:08:38,760 Speaker 1: Well, if baseball is to learn from one thing from 197 00:08:38,760 --> 00:08:39,240 Speaker 1: the World. 198 00:08:39,080 --> 00:08:42,640 Speaker 2: Baseball Classic, it's that it doesn't matter what time of 199 00:08:42,720 --> 00:08:43,920 Speaker 2: year we're talking about. 200 00:08:44,440 --> 00:08:45,120 Speaker 1: What matters. 201 00:08:45,160 --> 00:08:46,880 Speaker 2: It's does this one hundred and sixty two games, one 202 00:08:46,920 --> 00:08:49,199 Speaker 2: hundred and fifty four games, one hundred and forty five games, whatever, 203 00:08:49,280 --> 00:08:53,320 Speaker 2: it's just staks on the line. Yes, it feels like 204 00:08:53,440 --> 00:08:57,240 Speaker 2: something matters. That's why the Olympics works. It feels like 205 00:08:57,280 --> 00:08:59,840 Speaker 2: something matters as opposed to eighty two games for an 206 00:08:59,840 --> 00:09:01,320 Speaker 2: hour National Hockey League season. 207 00:09:01,679 --> 00:09:04,320 Speaker 1: No, I get it. There are economic forces at play here. 208 00:09:04,360 --> 00:09:07,720 Speaker 2: You can't just make it a series of little pool 209 00:09:07,760 --> 00:09:10,120 Speaker 2: events that turn into a playoff and have it work 210 00:09:10,160 --> 00:09:12,640 Speaker 2: out or else those get dulled in the process too. 211 00:09:12,960 --> 00:09:16,480 Speaker 2: I think that's why American fans don't connect with all 212 00:09:16,520 --> 00:09:19,880 Speaker 2: these overseas sucker cups, like we don't know what those are, 213 00:09:19,880 --> 00:09:21,640 Speaker 2: and we're supposed to say, oh, it's a big deal 214 00:09:21,640 --> 00:09:23,360 Speaker 2: that we won this Cup or that Cup, and we 215 00:09:23,400 --> 00:09:26,080 Speaker 2: don't know when they're overlaying into which season. That's why 216 00:09:26,120 --> 00:09:29,000 Speaker 2: a lot of American fans don't get European soccer. Yeah, 217 00:09:29,040 --> 00:09:30,520 Speaker 2: the NBA is having a little bit of a struggle 218 00:09:30,520 --> 00:09:31,760 Speaker 2: trying to get that going right, you know, and they 219 00:09:31,760 --> 00:09:33,760 Speaker 2: tried to get that thing off the ground, and nobody cares. 220 00:09:33,800 --> 00:09:35,719 Speaker 2: I don't think anybody cares at all. I mean, the 221 00:09:35,800 --> 00:09:37,400 Speaker 2: Knicks won it, you know what I mean, Like with 222 00:09:37,400 --> 00:09:39,120 Speaker 2: the biggest market. I think the Lakers won it too. 223 00:09:39,160 --> 00:09:40,880 Speaker 2: Like the biggest markets are winning it, and it's still 224 00:09:40,960 --> 00:09:42,880 Speaker 2: kind of just like an eye roll moment. It's just 225 00:09:42,920 --> 00:09:45,120 Speaker 2: not American. Same thing with ties and hockey, Like, we 226 00:09:45,160 --> 00:09:46,720 Speaker 2: just don't accept that, even though I think that's a 227 00:09:46,760 --> 00:09:49,280 Speaker 2: proper way to decide things in the regular season, just 228 00:09:49,280 --> 00:09:52,080 Speaker 2: split points like that, have ties be a thing. We 229 00:09:52,200 --> 00:09:54,920 Speaker 2: just don't accept that. We just don't like it. College 230 00:09:54,960 --> 00:09:58,600 Speaker 2: basketball goes through this every year where one month matters, right, 231 00:09:58,880 --> 00:10:03,480 Speaker 2: and for college basketball fans, we care, like I'm invested. 232 00:10:03,600 --> 00:10:04,000 Speaker 1: I care. 233 00:10:04,040 --> 00:10:06,040 Speaker 2: I like college basketball way more than the rest of 234 00:10:06,040 --> 00:10:09,840 Speaker 2: the seasons, right, but fans that look at college basketball 235 00:10:09,880 --> 00:10:13,280 Speaker 2: as sport number four, five six on their bandwidth don't 236 00:10:13,280 --> 00:10:16,360 Speaker 2: get invested until their brackets come out because their stakes 237 00:10:16,360 --> 00:10:19,719 Speaker 2: on the line, because it's your money, whither's scambling. 238 00:10:19,480 --> 00:10:21,000 Speaker 1: Or your pool or whatever. 239 00:10:21,320 --> 00:10:23,959 Speaker 2: Even I think the more hardcore college basketball fans too 240 00:10:24,160 --> 00:10:27,080 Speaker 2: to a degree. You know that first college basketball Saturday 241 00:10:27,120 --> 00:10:29,880 Speaker 2: isn't until that first Saturday after the Super Bowl. Like, 242 00:10:29,920 --> 00:10:34,000 Speaker 2: once that's done, then we lock in for college basketball. 243 00:10:34,040 --> 00:10:36,760 Speaker 2: Is like college football is going so long enough until 244 00:10:36,760 --> 00:10:38,920 Speaker 2: that Super Bowl too, even if your team has been 245 00:10:38,960 --> 00:10:39,319 Speaker 2: out of. 246 00:10:39,280 --> 00:10:41,400 Speaker 1: It forever, exactly right. 247 00:10:41,520 --> 00:10:44,960 Speaker 2: So there's just no real area for them to gain 248 00:10:45,000 --> 00:10:48,760 Speaker 2: traction before March Madness. But they obviously still dominate this month, 249 00:10:48,760 --> 00:10:51,240 Speaker 2: and there's still just crazy buzz for the tournament as always. 250 00:10:51,360 --> 00:10:53,560 Speaker 2: All Right, we'll come back with two questions when we 251 00:10:53,600 --> 00:10:56,120 Speaker 2: return here the first hour of the Mark Madden Show 252 00:10:56,160 --> 00:10:58,920 Speaker 2: tim and for Mark today. Question number one will be 253 00:10:59,200 --> 00:11:02,400 Speaker 2: of the three team teams that are vying for a second, third, 254 00:11:02,440 --> 00:11:05,640 Speaker 2: and fourth place in the Metro Division, which one is 255 00:11:05,800 --> 00:11:08,679 Speaker 2: out in the Metro by season end. We'll have that 256 00:11:08,720 --> 00:11:10,360 Speaker 2: for you coming up, will debate that and put a 257 00:11:10,360 --> 00:11:13,040 Speaker 2: pull up on Twitter. You can vote at Tim Ben's PGH. 258 00:11:13,080 --> 00:11:15,920 Speaker 2: And since we're on the topic of sports screwing itself up, 259 00:11:16,360 --> 00:11:19,120 Speaker 2: what will sports screw up for itself? 260 00:11:19,440 --> 00:11:23,840 Speaker 1: Next nine The X It's The Woody Show Tomorrow morning 261 00:11:23,840 --> 00:11:24,800 Speaker 1: from six till ten. 262 00:11:25,000 --> 00:11:37,400 Speaker 2: WHOA You'll got a Day Wednesday on expanding coverage to 263 00:11:37,400 --> 00:11:41,199 Speaker 2: the Mark Madden Show, backed by the personal injury expert Shnderovich, 264 00:11:41,200 --> 00:11:46,040 Speaker 2: Shandarovitch and Fishman. They've got your back, not your wallet, Tom. 265 00:11:46,400 --> 00:11:48,760 Speaker 2: If you had to bet right now, which of these 266 00:11:48,880 --> 00:11:52,560 Speaker 2: three metro teams finishes out of the division's top three 267 00:11:52,679 --> 00:11:56,040 Speaker 2: automatic playoff spots the Pens, the Aisles, the Blue Jackets. 268 00:11:56,520 --> 00:12:00,040 Speaker 2: I'm gonna bet the Islanders, even though this scares me 269 00:12:00,120 --> 00:12:02,280 Speaker 2: because there's such the bogey team for the Penguins, and 270 00:12:02,679 --> 00:12:05,080 Speaker 2: ever since I started, I did a thing on Thursday Show, 271 00:12:05,120 --> 00:12:07,640 Speaker 2: So you think the Islanders would be out? Yeah, I 272 00:12:07,679 --> 00:12:09,439 Speaker 2: did a thing on Thursday Show. I was like, I'm 273 00:12:09,520 --> 00:12:12,640 Speaker 2: loving scoreboard watching right now again, like really intensely for 274 00:12:12,679 --> 00:12:14,680 Speaker 2: the Penguins. But one thing that's clear is that the 275 00:12:14,720 --> 00:12:16,600 Speaker 2: Islanders are just the devil on Earth. Like you'll watch 276 00:12:16,640 --> 00:12:18,320 Speaker 2: it one second and they're down three to one. Then 277 00:12:18,360 --> 00:12:19,920 Speaker 2: you'll check back in and they win four to three 278 00:12:19,960 --> 00:12:22,400 Speaker 2: in overtime, so they just keep having a knack of 279 00:12:22,400 --> 00:12:24,840 Speaker 2: stacking points. But I'm gonna pick them to fall out. 280 00:12:24,960 --> 00:12:27,120 Speaker 2: The Blue Jackets, I thought would just cool off, and 281 00:12:27,120 --> 00:12:29,079 Speaker 2: they're just they're just not going to not to the 282 00:12:29,200 --> 00:12:33,560 Speaker 2: degree no that you know, it's any greater or lesser 283 00:12:33,600 --> 00:12:36,040 Speaker 2: than what the Penguins have done since the Olympics exactly. 284 00:12:36,080 --> 00:12:39,160 Speaker 2: So they're red hot, so they'll sneak in. Maybe the 285 00:12:39,200 --> 00:12:42,400 Speaker 2: Islanders fall out into a wild card spot, like maybe 286 00:12:42,440 --> 00:12:45,120 Speaker 2: the Red Wings aren't the team that's overall. That's why 287 00:12:45,120 --> 00:12:46,520 Speaker 2: I phrased it the way I did, and I put 288 00:12:46,520 --> 00:12:48,520 Speaker 2: it on Twitter. I asked that exact question, if you 289 00:12:48,640 --> 00:12:51,319 Speaker 2: had to bet right now. In fact, I'll retweet it 290 00:12:51,400 --> 00:12:54,040 Speaker 2: right now for everybody who's listening. You can vote, if 291 00:12:54,040 --> 00:12:56,720 Speaker 2: you had to bet right now, which one of these 292 00:12:56,800 --> 00:12:59,840 Speaker 2: three Metro teams finishes out of the division's top three 293 00:13:00,040 --> 00:13:04,320 Speaker 2: automatic playoff spots. Penguins, Islanders, Blue Jackets. The Islanders have 294 00:13:04,400 --> 00:13:08,480 Speaker 2: the fewest votes by a healthy margin in a Pittsburgh audience, 295 00:13:08,920 --> 00:13:10,920 Speaker 2: so people are very confident that the Isles will make it. 296 00:13:11,120 --> 00:13:12,960 Speaker 2: People are very confident that the Isles will make it. 297 00:13:14,120 --> 00:13:18,160 Speaker 2: Penguins thirty four percent, Blue Jackets forty six percent. 298 00:13:18,559 --> 00:13:20,439 Speaker 1: That's about how I feel. 299 00:13:20,480 --> 00:13:23,080 Speaker 2: If I could take my own vote and represent it 300 00:13:23,120 --> 00:13:27,480 Speaker 2: in a percentage form, that's almost exactly how I would feel. 301 00:13:28,000 --> 00:13:30,880 Speaker 2: I feel pretty confident the Islanders are gonna make it. Okay, 302 00:13:31,640 --> 00:13:34,080 Speaker 2: I'm not real confident that the Penguins will make it, 303 00:13:34,240 --> 00:13:36,640 Speaker 2: but I'm less confident than the Blue Jackets will, just 304 00:13:36,679 --> 00:13:39,079 Speaker 2: because I feel like they're gonna fade eventually. 305 00:13:39,360 --> 00:13:40,640 Speaker 1: All teams full strength. 306 00:13:40,640 --> 00:13:44,360 Speaker 2: There's so much variance in the Blue Jackets and the Penguins, 307 00:13:44,400 --> 00:13:46,520 Speaker 2: and I don't think there's as much with the Islanders. 308 00:13:46,920 --> 00:13:49,480 Speaker 2: And my guess is the variance is the Penguins will 309 00:13:49,480 --> 00:13:52,240 Speaker 2: get better when Sid and Gino will come back. One 310 00:13:52,240 --> 00:13:54,360 Speaker 2: would think you'd think so, yeah, And I just think 311 00:13:54,400 --> 00:13:56,960 Speaker 2: that the Blue Jackets won't be as hot in April 312 00:13:57,040 --> 00:13:59,160 Speaker 2: as they have been the last couple of weeks. 313 00:13:59,160 --> 00:14:00,840 Speaker 1: See all teams full strength. 314 00:14:01,520 --> 00:14:03,400 Speaker 2: I think the Penguins are the better team out of 315 00:14:03,440 --> 00:14:04,800 Speaker 2: all three of them, Like if you look at them 316 00:14:04,840 --> 00:14:06,640 Speaker 2: on the on paper and how they played all year long, 317 00:14:06,679 --> 00:14:09,480 Speaker 2: like at their healthiest, Varians should go up to the Penguins. Plus, 318 00:14:09,480 --> 00:14:11,040 Speaker 2: I would think even though they've got a tough schedule 319 00:14:11,120 --> 00:14:12,200 Speaker 2: the rest of the way. It's not gonna be nine 320 00:14:12,200 --> 00:14:14,760 Speaker 2: out of ten teams that are in the playoffs, right, 321 00:14:14,800 --> 00:14:16,920 Speaker 2: which is what it's been, right, You wouldn't think so. 322 00:14:17,280 --> 00:14:19,840 Speaker 2: And I think Columbus gets a little bit. The schedule 323 00:14:19,840 --> 00:14:21,840 Speaker 2: gets a little bit more teeth in April, if I'm 324 00:14:21,880 --> 00:14:24,080 Speaker 2: not mistaken, so they'll have a little bit more to 325 00:14:24,120 --> 00:14:24,560 Speaker 2: deal with. 326 00:14:25,200 --> 00:14:27,520 Speaker 1: But someone broke it down. 327 00:14:27,480 --> 00:14:30,400 Speaker 2: Yesterday in a very I think way that was easy 328 00:14:30,400 --> 00:14:33,520 Speaker 2: to understand. It seems like there's about seven spots of forgrabs. 329 00:14:33,520 --> 00:14:36,080 Speaker 2: There's eight teams that are vying for these like last 330 00:14:36,160 --> 00:14:39,000 Speaker 2: seven chairs in the East playoff front, Like you just 331 00:14:39,040 --> 00:14:41,440 Speaker 2: have to finish with one of those seven chairs if 332 00:14:41,440 --> 00:14:43,680 Speaker 2: you're the Penguins, like, just don't be that last team 333 00:14:43,680 --> 00:14:46,520 Speaker 2: that bottoms out. I feel like they're they're gonna be 334 00:14:46,520 --> 00:14:48,160 Speaker 2: capable of doing that once they get this shot in 335 00:14:48,200 --> 00:14:50,480 Speaker 2: the arm starting tonight with Gino coming back as a 336 00:14:50,480 --> 00:14:52,520 Speaker 2: shot in the army. Maybe Brazo too, who was skating. 337 00:14:52,560 --> 00:14:54,520 Speaker 2: I know that's a little bit more, you know, smaller 338 00:14:54,560 --> 00:14:56,520 Speaker 2: scale than sid and Gino coming back, but he's he's 339 00:14:56,560 --> 00:14:59,960 Speaker 2: a contributor this year. He's been really important. He's been 340 00:15:00,040 --> 00:15:02,000 Speaker 2: one of their great finds along with Chinikov. I think 341 00:15:02,040 --> 00:15:04,640 Speaker 2: we've forgotten about him because he's been good and Novak 342 00:15:04,720 --> 00:15:05,800 Speaker 2: has been so good at center. 343 00:15:05,840 --> 00:15:08,200 Speaker 1: But hey, all of a sudden, there's no glutted centers, 344 00:15:08,280 --> 00:15:08,600 Speaker 1: is there? 345 00:15:08,720 --> 00:15:11,000 Speaker 2: And how are they ever gonna be able to fit 346 00:15:11,360 --> 00:15:15,120 Speaker 2: Vince Trocheck onto a rosted as Connor doer as a 347 00:15:15,160 --> 00:15:15,800 Speaker 2: center right now? 348 00:15:15,800 --> 00:15:18,000 Speaker 1: Because out right now for for some reason. 349 00:15:18,040 --> 00:15:21,160 Speaker 2: So those my points, And again I get it, he 350 00:15:21,320 --> 00:15:24,120 Speaker 2: was commanded the Rangers were asking too much in return 351 00:15:24,200 --> 00:15:26,800 Speaker 2: for Trochick. Fine, you know what, it was not worth 352 00:15:26,840 --> 00:15:29,440 Speaker 2: the deal that apparently was reported. I get it. What 353 00:15:29,520 --> 00:15:32,240 Speaker 2: I'm pushing back on was the pushback that I got 354 00:15:32,400 --> 00:15:36,720 Speaker 2: for even suggesting it foolish they're gonna have too many centers. 355 00:15:36,840 --> 00:15:39,200 Speaker 2: There's no such thing as too many centers. That's like 356 00:15:39,240 --> 00:15:41,800 Speaker 2: saying too much pitching. No team has ever complained about 357 00:15:42,000 --> 00:15:44,360 Speaker 2: having too much pitching. You know, when too many centers 358 00:15:44,480 --> 00:15:46,800 Speaker 2: becomes not enough centers when you have one injury. 359 00:15:47,040 --> 00:15:49,080 Speaker 1: That's when you saw what. 360 00:15:48,960 --> 00:15:51,160 Speaker 2: Braidon Chen went for for the Islanders, who you think 361 00:15:51,200 --> 00:15:52,640 Speaker 2: are for sure going to make the playoffs. They go 362 00:15:52,640 --> 00:15:54,440 Speaker 2: out and they get a center That struck you as 363 00:15:54,440 --> 00:15:57,000 Speaker 2: an overpay right for Braiden Chen what the Islanders had 364 00:15:57,000 --> 00:15:59,040 Speaker 2: to give up. You were kind of like Vinnie was 365 00:15:59,080 --> 00:16:02,240 Speaker 2: gonna go for more than that. So I get it 366 00:16:02,240 --> 00:16:04,720 Speaker 2: from the standpoint of too rich for our blood. Let's 367 00:16:04,760 --> 00:16:07,440 Speaker 2: stand pat, But you're absolutely right to try to frame 368 00:16:07,480 --> 00:16:09,880 Speaker 2: it from the context of we're good as far as 369 00:16:09,880 --> 00:16:12,760 Speaker 2: centers are concerned. Once we survive this Sid injury, our 370 00:16:12,760 --> 00:16:16,400 Speaker 2: center depth is perfectly fine. Is extremely foolish, especially for 371 00:16:16,440 --> 00:16:17,960 Speaker 2: a team that has aspirations now to go to the 372 00:16:18,000 --> 00:16:19,280 Speaker 2: playoffs and win a playoff round. 373 00:16:19,320 --> 00:16:20,960 Speaker 1: Now it's all about getting that center depth. 374 00:16:21,320 --> 00:16:23,680 Speaker 2: Mark'st on our podcast today Rako Goudas should be thrown 375 00:16:23,680 --> 00:16:24,200 Speaker 2: out of hockey. 376 00:16:24,200 --> 00:16:24,680 Speaker 1: What do you think? 377 00:16:24,800 --> 00:16:27,840 Speaker 2: That seems a little harsh to be thrown out of hockey, 378 00:16:28,120 --> 00:16:30,880 Speaker 2: seems just a smidge too harsh. But I feel and 379 00:16:30,960 --> 00:16:33,320 Speaker 2: felt that way about Tom Wilson though, didn't you right, 380 00:16:33,400 --> 00:16:35,680 Speaker 2: Like when you're a fan and it comes after Sid, 381 00:16:35,800 --> 00:16:39,640 Speaker 2: you feel those emotions. But he should was oddly dismissive 382 00:16:39,640 --> 00:16:41,560 Speaker 2: of that hit in the Olympics. He should have been 383 00:16:41,680 --> 00:16:44,320 Speaker 2: sat down for like a jaw dropping amount of time, 384 00:16:44,400 --> 00:16:46,840 Speaker 2: and that is nothing's more jaw dropping than being kicked 385 00:16:46,840 --> 00:16:49,520 Speaker 2: out of the sport. But I think the NHL was 386 00:16:49,560 --> 00:16:51,640 Speaker 2: within their rights to come down here and say you're 387 00:16:51,680 --> 00:16:53,800 Speaker 2: done for the year, like hand that suspension out for 388 00:16:53,800 --> 00:16:56,280 Speaker 2: a goodis and be like Anaheim in a playoff push. 389 00:16:56,360 --> 00:16:58,120 Speaker 2: Right now, your captain's out for the rest of the 390 00:16:58,160 --> 00:17:03,000 Speaker 2: season because he keeps taking out other Caps. His presence 391 00:17:03,280 --> 00:17:06,000 Speaker 2: in the game is getting to that of what Wilson's 392 00:17:06,119 --> 00:17:08,320 Speaker 2: used to be. And maybe Wilson is just more focused 393 00:17:08,359 --> 00:17:11,600 Speaker 2: on playing hockey. Although he's had his moments this year 394 00:17:11,640 --> 00:17:13,960 Speaker 2: and even since he started to be elevated to the 395 00:17:13,960 --> 00:17:17,080 Speaker 2: point that Team Canada considered him to be an Olympian. 396 00:17:18,000 --> 00:17:21,639 Speaker 2: Goudis to me, he's not as good as even Wilson is. 397 00:17:22,720 --> 00:17:26,479 Speaker 2: But you know that he's going to be a factor 398 00:17:26,520 --> 00:17:28,080 Speaker 2: in the Western Conference playoffs. 399 00:17:28,080 --> 00:17:29,679 Speaker 1: He's going to take people out. He's going to be 400 00:17:29,760 --> 00:17:30,240 Speaker 1: like a shark. 401 00:17:30,280 --> 00:17:35,640 Speaker 2: And exactly so, the NHL had a chance to kind 402 00:17:35,640 --> 00:17:37,600 Speaker 2: of nip that in the bud right now, but instead 403 00:17:37,600 --> 00:17:39,760 Speaker 2: he's probably going to just blow out McDavid's knee or 404 00:17:39,760 --> 00:17:42,399 Speaker 2: something like that in the second round. What's Gina going 405 00:17:42,440 --> 00:17:44,720 Speaker 2: to do now that he's back tonight? I bet he 406 00:17:44,760 --> 00:17:47,520 Speaker 2: scores a goal tonight. After year, your little call of 407 00:17:47,560 --> 00:17:51,360 Speaker 2: the drought, which is spot on. He's racking up the assists. 408 00:17:51,400 --> 00:17:53,240 Speaker 2: I mean, you can't blame him for that. He's pointing 409 00:17:53,880 --> 00:17:55,560 Speaker 2: four games. I think he only has one assistant his 410 00:17:55,640 --> 00:17:57,840 Speaker 2: last four games. The goals are just a problem overall 411 00:17:57,880 --> 00:17:59,480 Speaker 2: for the year for him, though. He's got to score 412 00:17:59,560 --> 00:18:02,040 Speaker 2: more goals, so especially now he's moving away, like you 413 00:18:02,080 --> 00:18:03,719 Speaker 2: got to start putting the puck into the net more 414 00:18:03,760 --> 00:18:04,680 Speaker 2: from that wing position. 415 00:18:04,800 --> 00:18:07,240 Speaker 1: So I bet you scores tonight though, And. 416 00:18:07,200 --> 00:18:10,080 Speaker 2: I bet boy, you know who's become a bit snake 417 00:18:10,160 --> 00:18:11,200 Speaker 2: bitten quietly? 418 00:18:11,320 --> 00:18:12,840 Speaker 1: Is Chinikov? Have you noticed that? 419 00:18:13,240 --> 00:18:15,960 Speaker 2: Still marvelous, still driving play, getting a ton of chance 420 00:18:16,040 --> 00:18:19,760 Speaker 2: hitting posts now finished though, including then that shootout when 421 00:18:19,800 --> 00:18:23,200 Speaker 2: he just completely undressed Anderson and just couldn't finish the backhand. 422 00:18:24,200 --> 00:18:25,560 Speaker 2: All right, Look, when we come back, I want to 423 00:18:25,560 --> 00:18:27,959 Speaker 2: get that other topic about what sports is in danger 424 00:18:28,000 --> 00:18:30,840 Speaker 2: of ruining next, because the World Baseball Classic seems to 425 00:18:30,840 --> 00:18:33,240 Speaker 2: be off to a pretty good start here this year. 426 00:18:33,280 --> 00:18:35,639 Speaker 2: People like it to this point, and now we're already 427 00:18:35,680 --> 00:18:37,280 Speaker 2: talking about making it too big and it is too 428 00:18:37,359 --> 00:18:37,840 Speaker 2: much of a thing. 429 00:18:37,840 --> 00:18:40,040 Speaker 1: I'll discuss when we come back. One five nine the X. 430 00:18:41,600 --> 00:18:45,120 Speaker 2: Tonight's the Pens hit the ice against the Avalanche. 431 00:18:45,359 --> 00:18:48,919 Speaker 1: Game time is nine to thirty. Pregame starts at eight thirty. 432 00:18:49,240 --> 00:18:52,000 Speaker 2: Listen to every game and the best Pens coverage on 433 00:18:52,160 --> 00:18:55,280 Speaker 2: your home of the Pittsburgh Penguins one oh five nine v. 434 00:18:55,600 --> 00:19:02,680 Speaker 1: X joyn Iard Radio and it's the Mark Manhoon Free Game. 435 00:19:02,720 --> 00:19:05,360 Speaker 1: Shao on one Dax. 436 00:19:09,520 --> 00:19:11,240 Speaker 2: Coming up at the three o'clock hour and any Shaw 437 00:19:11,400 --> 00:19:13,879 Speaker 2: and just play by play for the Carolina Panthers. 438 00:19:13,960 --> 00:19:15,639 Speaker 1: He's going to talk to us about Rico Dawbell. 439 00:19:15,680 --> 00:19:17,480 Speaker 2: We're going to talk to Phil Bork at four point 440 00:19:17,480 --> 00:19:20,200 Speaker 2: thirty to discuss the Penguins game coming up against the 441 00:19:20,200 --> 00:19:23,359 Speaker 2: Avalanche in Denver. And at five o'clock hour, the Madden 442 00:19:23,400 --> 00:19:25,560 Speaker 2: Monday Podcast and myself and Mark Madden if you missed 443 00:19:25,560 --> 00:19:27,120 Speaker 2: it earlier and you want to hear Mark love Mark 444 00:19:27,200 --> 00:19:31,120 Speaker 2: on at five o'clock. So I was giving a little 445 00:19:31,119 --> 00:19:32,760 Speaker 2: bit of a hard time just because I think things 446 00:19:32,800 --> 00:19:37,280 Speaker 2: are getting over dramatized with the World Baseball Classic, and 447 00:19:37,400 --> 00:19:40,280 Speaker 2: it's not the same thing as the Olympics. If you 448 00:19:40,320 --> 00:19:42,920 Speaker 2: have a bunch of guys with Irish names playing for 449 00:19:43,000 --> 00:19:46,560 Speaker 2: Team Italy because they play in the major leagues, then 450 00:19:46,560 --> 00:19:49,679 Speaker 2: it's not really a true international competition to the degree 451 00:19:49,720 --> 00:19:51,159 Speaker 2: that we're trying to make it out to be. Now, 452 00:19:51,160 --> 00:19:53,400 Speaker 2: if we just did a four nations kind of thing 453 00:19:54,280 --> 00:19:57,960 Speaker 2: and made it, you know, three of the Latino countries 454 00:19:58,040 --> 00:20:01,040 Speaker 2: in America, that might actually be a better tournament, to 455 00:20:01,119 --> 00:20:03,359 Speaker 2: be honest with you, well, and it would kind of 456 00:20:03,400 --> 00:20:05,719 Speaker 2: fit more of that Olympic bill, because I think Japan, 457 00:20:06,000 --> 00:20:09,000 Speaker 2: Venezuela is the Dominican Republic, and. 458 00:20:09,160 --> 00:20:12,080 Speaker 1: United States six America, right, you get my point? 459 00:20:12,080 --> 00:20:14,639 Speaker 2: In Puerto Rico, you throw them in there, like in Canada, right, 460 00:20:14,800 --> 00:20:17,199 Speaker 2: like they're kind of got Americans. I think I'm there too, 461 00:20:17,240 --> 00:20:19,560 Speaker 2: that are sneaking across that border and getting dual citizenship. 462 00:20:19,760 --> 00:20:22,440 Speaker 2: You were conceived in your Niagara Falls, Yeah, but their 463 00:20:22,480 --> 00:20:25,159 Speaker 2: parents honeymoons, So that makes you Canadian. Those five teams 464 00:20:25,240 --> 00:20:26,960 Speaker 2: right there, which are really the five that I just 465 00:20:27,040 --> 00:20:29,440 Speaker 2: rattled off that can realistically win this thing, they're the 466 00:20:29,480 --> 00:20:31,760 Speaker 2: ones that have the national born players. Like there's all 467 00:20:31,880 --> 00:20:35,440 Speaker 2: Japanese players for Japan, there's Venezuelan's playing for Venezuela, Dominicans 468 00:20:35,440 --> 00:20:36,280 Speaker 2: for the Dominican But. 469 00:20:36,320 --> 00:20:38,600 Speaker 1: It's good, buzz, it's interesting. It's getting ready for baseball. 470 00:20:38,640 --> 00:20:40,160 Speaker 1: That's great. So I'm on board. 471 00:20:41,440 --> 00:20:44,160 Speaker 2: Where I get concerned about it is I'm already hearing 472 00:20:44,240 --> 00:20:47,000 Speaker 2: the conversations. If you're a sports talk radio today, Hey, 473 00:20:47,640 --> 00:20:51,080 Speaker 2: maybe annually you replace the All Star Game with the 474 00:20:51,160 --> 00:20:52,400 Speaker 2: World Baseball Classic. 475 00:20:53,359 --> 00:20:54,600 Speaker 1: No, no, you don't. 476 00:20:55,200 --> 00:20:57,479 Speaker 2: You don't do what the NHL didn't shut down your 477 00:20:57,560 --> 00:20:59,320 Speaker 2: league for two weeks, because how are you gonna do it? 478 00:20:59,400 --> 00:21:01,960 Speaker 2: You just just described in five days time. You can't 479 00:21:02,000 --> 00:21:03,280 Speaker 2: do that in five days time. 480 00:21:03,680 --> 00:21:05,840 Speaker 1: That's two weeks. You can't go from Sunday to Friday. 481 00:21:06,440 --> 00:21:08,680 Speaker 2: That's a two week shutdown. That's the same as the 482 00:21:08,760 --> 00:21:11,960 Speaker 2: Olympic break that that hockey just went went through. It's 483 00:21:11,960 --> 00:21:13,760 Speaker 2: the exact same thing that you'd have to do for 484 00:21:13,840 --> 00:21:14,480 Speaker 2: base So what are. 485 00:21:14,359 --> 00:21:14,639 Speaker 1: You gonna do? 486 00:21:14,840 --> 00:21:18,000 Speaker 2: Start baseball on Saint Patrick's Day and extended Thanksgiving? 487 00:21:18,040 --> 00:21:19,560 Speaker 1: What are we doing here? Look? 488 00:21:19,720 --> 00:21:22,119 Speaker 2: I really do get kind of where they're coming from, 489 00:21:22,160 --> 00:21:24,600 Speaker 2: where it's like, God, this is great, it would be better, 490 00:21:24,680 --> 00:21:26,920 Speaker 2: more and more, gotta have more, more and more. 491 00:21:27,000 --> 00:21:28,240 Speaker 1: I wasn't even coming from that aspect. 492 00:21:28,240 --> 00:21:29,399 Speaker 2: I was coming from like, I'd be nice if it 493 00:21:29,560 --> 00:21:31,639 Speaker 2: was July right and the sun was still up at 494 00:21:31,720 --> 00:21:33,960 Speaker 2: nine pm, and you know we were outside cooking burgers 495 00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:37,600 Speaker 2: and dogs watching the baseball season. But the reality is, 496 00:21:37,880 --> 00:21:40,119 Speaker 2: as you just laid it out, that's impossible to do 497 00:21:40,320 --> 00:21:42,720 Speaker 2: in baseball season without starting on Saint Patrick's Day and 498 00:21:42,800 --> 00:21:44,720 Speaker 2: taking a two to three week break in the middle 499 00:21:44,760 --> 00:21:46,439 Speaker 2: of it. This is the best I think you can 500 00:21:46,520 --> 00:21:48,520 Speaker 2: do is have it in this spring training setting a 501 00:21:48,560 --> 00:21:52,560 Speaker 2: couple weeks into spring training, and we I think, in 502 00:21:52,720 --> 00:21:55,240 Speaker 2: this current version of the World Baseball Classic, are generating 503 00:21:55,280 --> 00:21:57,520 Speaker 2: more buzz around it than we have in years past. 504 00:21:58,000 --> 00:22:00,119 Speaker 2: At least that's from my perspective. It seems like this 505 00:22:00,280 --> 00:22:04,120 Speaker 2: is a more watched, more interested in thing. I don't 506 00:22:04,359 --> 00:22:05,880 Speaker 2: now to what you just said. I don't know why 507 00:22:05,960 --> 00:22:07,880 Speaker 2: everything has to come off with, well, we just did 508 00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:10,440 Speaker 2: something great, let's just do it better and better and better. 509 00:22:10,600 --> 00:22:12,679 Speaker 2: Maybe it's just the capitalism in all of us, right 510 00:22:12,920 --> 00:22:15,160 Speaker 2: for a gotta be bigger and better fan base. That's 511 00:22:15,200 --> 00:22:18,080 Speaker 2: so in favor of monitoring every single pitch that Paul 512 00:22:18,160 --> 00:22:21,000 Speaker 2: Skins throws. Do you want him throwing more in July? 513 00:22:21,600 --> 00:22:24,800 Speaker 2: He could have thrown ninety five pitches, correct. I think 514 00:22:24,880 --> 00:22:27,119 Speaker 2: something somebody got in trouble, Like you said in the 515 00:22:27,160 --> 00:22:28,840 Speaker 2: other segment that we did today when it was like, 516 00:22:28,960 --> 00:22:30,560 Speaker 2: oh great outing from Paul Skiens. 517 00:22:30,640 --> 00:22:32,200 Speaker 1: No, he had to get pulled in the middle of 518 00:22:32,200 --> 00:22:34,640 Speaker 1: an inning because he was struggling. 519 00:22:35,760 --> 00:22:39,600 Speaker 2: So I don't think more is the answer here to this, 520 00:22:39,840 --> 00:22:43,360 Speaker 2: and I don't think more's the answer for an NFL schedule, 521 00:22:43,400 --> 00:22:46,240 Speaker 2: and I don't think more is the answer when it 522 00:22:46,320 --> 00:22:49,480 Speaker 2: comes to expansion in Major League Baseball in the NHL, 523 00:22:49,520 --> 00:22:52,600 Speaker 2: and we're hearing about that too. All of these things, Tom, 524 00:22:52,680 --> 00:22:55,280 Speaker 2: are things that I think that will be screwed up 525 00:22:55,359 --> 00:22:59,080 Speaker 2: soon by major pro in college sports, and the most 526 00:22:59,160 --> 00:23:02,680 Speaker 2: direct thing is of orse, the expansion of the NCAA tournament. Well, 527 00:23:02,840 --> 00:23:05,240 Speaker 2: if you saw the bracket reveal yesterday, you were looking 528 00:23:05,320 --> 00:23:08,119 Speaker 2: at seven teams and saying, why do they need to 529 00:23:08,160 --> 00:23:10,320 Speaker 2: be in exactly like you're worried about Miami of Ohio 530 00:23:10,359 --> 00:23:13,000 Speaker 2: getting in for what for which? Which of these teams 531 00:23:13,080 --> 00:23:14,880 Speaker 2: like has to be in in front of Miami lysle 532 00:23:15,040 --> 00:23:16,359 Speaker 2: I mean, you're looking at the teams that were like 533 00:23:16,440 --> 00:23:20,320 Speaker 2: the first four out, and Auburn's like seventeen and sixteen, 534 00:23:20,840 --> 00:23:23,399 Speaker 2: and like Indiana's like eighteen and fourteen, and it's just 535 00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:26,679 Speaker 2: like this, who cares? They don't deserve to be in there? 536 00:23:26,680 --> 00:23:30,760 Speaker 2: They lost fourteen fifteen games during the regular season. That 537 00:23:31,040 --> 00:23:33,200 Speaker 2: to me is the one that I am dreading the 538 00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:35,639 Speaker 2: most and as far as like, what is going to 539 00:23:35,760 --> 00:23:38,440 Speaker 2: ruin the sport more than any of the others. Expanding 540 00:23:38,480 --> 00:23:40,919 Speaker 2: a tournament that's already sixty eight teams, it's already arguably 541 00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:41,840 Speaker 2: maybe too big. 542 00:23:42,600 --> 00:23:44,400 Speaker 1: It's just right. I think it's fine, just fine. 543 00:23:44,440 --> 00:23:47,520 Speaker 2: But to sell supposed to sixty four, yeah, sure, but 544 00:23:47,680 --> 00:23:50,400 Speaker 2: like seventy six whatever, it would be the next iteration 545 00:23:50,600 --> 00:23:53,040 Speaker 2: that is, that is the definition of overkill right there. 546 00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:55,880 Speaker 2: They don't need We're gonna get what teams the entire 547 00:23:55,960 --> 00:23:58,200 Speaker 2: SEC is gonna get in one year, right, Yes, sometimes 548 00:23:58,280 --> 00:24:01,359 Speaker 2: that's their goal, that's what they want, and that's just 549 00:24:01,480 --> 00:24:02,320 Speaker 2: there's no need for that. 550 00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:04,920 Speaker 1: What about expanding the College Football Playoff? Do they do 551 00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:07,320 Speaker 1: that even more? Or are they all right with the 552 00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:08,080 Speaker 1: size right now? 553 00:24:08,520 --> 00:24:10,159 Speaker 2: I think they're gonna do it one more time. I 554 00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:12,680 Speaker 2: think they're gonna jump it up to sixteen is what 555 00:24:12,720 --> 00:24:14,960 Speaker 2: they would go to, right So what the one seed 556 00:24:15,040 --> 00:24:17,920 Speaker 2: plays then? Or do they do buys for the first proces? 557 00:24:18,040 --> 00:24:20,359 Speaker 2: You have to figure out some weird buy system to 558 00:24:20,440 --> 00:24:22,399 Speaker 2: make sure that you know to do a ladder like 559 00:24:22,480 --> 00:24:25,440 Speaker 2: they did in some college basketball tournaments, all four, expansion 560 00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:27,560 Speaker 2: of the college football Playoff more and more and more. 561 00:24:28,119 --> 00:24:29,280 Speaker 1: I was wrong. It ruined it. 562 00:24:29,440 --> 00:24:31,440 Speaker 2: I think four was perfect, Like, we get it just 563 00:24:31,480 --> 00:24:34,160 Speaker 2: to that final four right away. I think that's all 564 00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:35,920 Speaker 2: we need, that's really all. Who's gonna be able to 565 00:24:35,920 --> 00:24:36,359 Speaker 2: win it? Any What? 566 00:24:36,480 --> 00:24:38,280 Speaker 1: I what I didn't exaid. 567 00:24:38,320 --> 00:24:39,800 Speaker 2: I say that as Miami went on a run as 568 00:24:39,840 --> 00:24:42,720 Speaker 2: like a ten seed to the game. What I didn't 569 00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:45,320 Speaker 2: anticipate because I was in favor of expanding it to 570 00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:47,720 Speaker 2: to at least eight. I thought eight was enough and 571 00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:49,960 Speaker 2: just play. If you're one seed and you lose to 572 00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:52,359 Speaker 2: the eighth best team in college football, tough luck, right, 573 00:24:52,600 --> 00:24:54,399 Speaker 2: But that's fine. I was fine at starting at the 574 00:24:54,480 --> 00:24:57,080 Speaker 2: quarterfinal round when you get the buys built in and 575 00:24:57,119 --> 00:25:00,200 Speaker 2: all that. And the length of the college foot ball 576 00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:06,080 Speaker 2: Playoff dovetailing with the conference championship games too. Like I 577 00:25:06,440 --> 00:25:09,240 Speaker 2: didn't anticipate how much the NFL would swallow it up 578 00:25:10,280 --> 00:25:14,840 Speaker 2: the college football yeah off because they play on Saturdays too. Yeah, exactly, 579 00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:18,480 Speaker 2: the overlap avoid. I didn't anticipate my bandwidth being so 580 00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:20,960 Speaker 2: taken up by the NFL that I paid a little 581 00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:23,000 Speaker 2: attention to the college football Playoff, as. 582 00:25:22,920 --> 00:25:24,320 Speaker 1: I did, killed the college sport. 583 00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:26,840 Speaker 2: And you know, at the time when like when the 584 00:25:26,960 --> 00:25:31,040 Speaker 2: groundwork was being laid to expand the college football Playoff 585 00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:34,200 Speaker 2: or just create the college football playoff from beyond the 586 00:25:34,320 --> 00:25:38,440 Speaker 2: BCS or you know, like the college National Football Championship 587 00:25:38,560 --> 00:25:40,040 Speaker 2: or it was just the two that you voted in 588 00:25:40,359 --> 00:25:45,639 Speaker 2: right beyond that, College football is a lot easier to track. 589 00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:48,680 Speaker 2: You know. The transfer portal wasn't what it was what 590 00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:52,879 Speaker 2: it is now. Rather, player movement wasn't as vast. The 591 00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:55,960 Speaker 2: conferences made more sense, Like all the things that have 592 00:25:56,760 --> 00:26:01,240 Speaker 2: watered down college sports enjoyment were not apparent when we 593 00:26:01,359 --> 00:26:04,359 Speaker 2: were all saying, yeah, give us eight teams, give us 594 00:26:04,359 --> 00:26:07,200 Speaker 2: twelve teams, give us sixteen teams. When we're saying that, 595 00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:12,080 Speaker 2: then college football is a more familiar sports rivalries, regional stuff. Yes, 596 00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:15,119 Speaker 2: conferences that made sense. If you were a team, a 597 00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:17,240 Speaker 2: pit that had a quarterback that was a true freshman 598 00:26:17,280 --> 00:26:19,320 Speaker 2: that showed potential, you were like, I can't wait till 599 00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:22,120 Speaker 2: twenty twenty seven, twenty twenty eight, right, and like when 600 00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:25,120 Speaker 2: he develops into this senior instead it's always, well, he's 601 00:26:25,119 --> 00:26:27,560 Speaker 2: just gonna leave, and that's just the knee jerk reaction now, 602 00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:30,399 Speaker 2: and I know that You're trifecta is somewhat bracket related 603 00:26:30,440 --> 00:26:32,840 Speaker 2: coming up before the top the current. I can tell 604 00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:35,640 Speaker 2: you that this is going to be my worst bracket 605 00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:39,680 Speaker 2: performance ever because for as much as I'm into college basketball, 606 00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:44,879 Speaker 2: like doing stuff for Duquane, I'm pitting Syracuse stink. So 607 00:26:45,119 --> 00:26:47,800 Speaker 2: my ACC knowledge has been watered down because I haven't 608 00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:50,080 Speaker 2: been inclined to watch as many ACC games. 609 00:26:50,119 --> 00:26:51,800 Speaker 1: I'm just going to the motions at those pit games 610 00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:52,680 Speaker 1: right now at this point. 611 00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:56,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I'll watch the conference that I cover and 612 00:26:56,560 --> 00:27:00,440 Speaker 2: that sort of bled into the horizon, like you gave 613 00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:03,000 Speaker 2: me a bunch of horizon in Atlantic ten teams, you know, 614 00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:05,720 Speaker 2: give me the nit. I'll do great at the nit 615 00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:08,480 Speaker 2: brack bracket. Oh, the nit bracket I'm gonna rip apart. 616 00:27:09,119 --> 00:27:12,120 Speaker 2: But I how not just because of player movement, because 617 00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:15,240 Speaker 2: of lack of familiarity within the conferences. I don't have 618 00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:18,480 Speaker 2: that great of a sense beyond like Duke, who I 619 00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:20,640 Speaker 2: know is good but injured, even them like they're good 620 00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:23,919 Speaker 2: but injured in their wicked hard bracket. Yeah, I couldn't 621 00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:26,119 Speaker 2: tell you who like that team that got hot at 622 00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:28,160 Speaker 2: the right time is maybe like they're like a three 623 00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:30,120 Speaker 2: set or something right now, Like I've seen some people 624 00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:32,520 Speaker 2: have Virginia kind of be that team in their brackets 625 00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:34,240 Speaker 2: that I've seen them put through, Like I have no 626 00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:36,560 Speaker 2: idea why Virginia would be that team, but sure I'll 627 00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:38,639 Speaker 2: go with that. You're right, I feel like I'm flying 628 00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:41,119 Speaker 2: blind more than anything. I feel like I'm closer than 629 00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:43,240 Speaker 2: I ever have been the secretary that wins the Office 630 00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:46,240 Speaker 2: Bowl and does it based on jerseys, like it doesn't 631 00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:48,080 Speaker 2: based on the uniforms like mascot war. 632 00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:49,880 Speaker 1: I like the burnt orange of Texas. 633 00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:51,439 Speaker 2: I think they are gonna go on a little run 634 00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:53,800 Speaker 2: out of dating in the first four Like that's I 635 00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:56,680 Speaker 2: feel closer to identifying with that through this bracket. Like 636 00:27:56,800 --> 00:27:58,280 Speaker 2: here'll give you an example, because I did a little 637 00:27:58,320 --> 00:28:00,639 Speaker 2: rough bracket last night just whatever off of I know, 638 00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:02,240 Speaker 2: I had to pick an upset. I picked Pen to 639 00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:04,879 Speaker 2: beat Illinois the fourteen over the three Why I have 640 00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:06,480 Speaker 2: no reason to pick Penn To me, I just like that. 641 00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:08,439 Speaker 2: It's kind of sexy, right, Like, oh, in Ivy, they 642 00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:11,800 Speaker 2: have they have there Penn win Pen recently. That's right, 643 00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:14,160 Speaker 2: it was fresh in my mind. Yale forgot didn't foul 644 00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:16,560 Speaker 2: a kid, and he took a three in the IVY 645 00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:19,200 Speaker 2: League Final. The IVY League Final, down three, he tied 646 00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:20,920 Speaker 2: it because they didn't foul him, and he scored like 647 00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:22,200 Speaker 2: forty points in the finals. 648 00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:24,120 Speaker 1: He was a power five kid that dropped. I can't 649 00:28:24,119 --> 00:28:25,240 Speaker 1: remember when I swear. 650 00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:27,159 Speaker 2: A couple of years ago when we were doing bracketbusters 651 00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:29,239 Speaker 2: at Bellanote, Pen beat a team. Was it like an 652 00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:31,560 Speaker 2: Arizona or something like that. L beat a team or 653 00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:32,840 Speaker 2: was it Yale L beat a team? 654 00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:33,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, teams. 655 00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:35,040 Speaker 2: I mean they all looked the same to me, but 656 00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:37,359 Speaker 2: I don't know. I just picked Pen over Illinois for 657 00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:39,000 Speaker 2: absolutely no reason. I might as well have just thrown 658 00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:40,480 Speaker 2: a dart at the board and it landed on Penn. 659 00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:42,800 Speaker 2: All right, let's get to our trifecta A week come 660 00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:44,560 Speaker 2: back and then at the three o'clock hour, a niche 661 00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:47,120 Speaker 2: off the play by play voice of the Carolina Panthers, 662 00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:49,880 Speaker 2: Phil Bork at the four o'clock hour mark from the 663 00:28:49,920 --> 00:28:52,160 Speaker 2: Mad Monday Podcast. In the five o'clock hour, this is 664 00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:53,920 Speaker 2: the Mark Madden Show. On one of five nine, the 665 00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:57,440 Speaker 2: X Pens Tonight against the Avalanche at nine thirty, listen 666 00:28:57,480 --> 00:28:57,920 Speaker 2: to the X. 667 00:28:58,320 --> 00:29:03,480 Speaker 1: Everywhere you go, everywhere, tell your sport device Alexa play 668 00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:08,000 Speaker 1: one oh five point ninety X on iHeartRadio, Mark Maddon 669 00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:10,400 Speaker 1: for ye jaum on one nine D. 670 00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:16,480 Speaker 2: It's time out for the Trifecta and it's sponsored by 671 00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:19,840 Speaker 2: Danny's Pizza and Hogi's Family owned and operated since nineteen 672 00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:21,880 Speaker 2: sixty Route eighty eight in Bethel Park. 673 00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:24,760 Speaker 1: What's the tri Effecta today? For today's Trifecta? 674 00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:27,720 Speaker 2: Tim, Since the tournament bracket was revealed for twenty twenty six, 675 00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:30,440 Speaker 2: this field yesterday on Selection Sunday, I have three takes 676 00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:34,600 Speaker 2: from this twenty twenty six NCAA tournament field. Take number 677 00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:37,920 Speaker 2: one Miami Ohio, the team that went thirty one to 678 00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:39,719 Speaker 2: zero in the regular season and then was thirty one 679 00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:42,200 Speaker 2: and one. Because of the loss in the MAC Tournament 680 00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:45,600 Speaker 2: to UMass in the quarterfinals, they find themselves in Dayton 681 00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:46,640 Speaker 2: for the play in game. 682 00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:48,880 Speaker 1: I don't know if I agree with that. I mean, 683 00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:51,040 Speaker 1: I knee jerk reaction. 684 00:29:51,160 --> 00:29:53,120 Speaker 2: Tim thought maybe Miami Ohio should be out of the 685 00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:55,040 Speaker 2: tournament when I was on the air on Thursday when 686 00:29:55,120 --> 00:29:57,320 Speaker 2: they lost, But I was wrong to do that. 687 00:29:57,440 --> 00:29:59,000 Speaker 1: They should have been in and they I think they 688 00:29:59,040 --> 00:30:01,520 Speaker 1: should be in the field proper and not having to 689 00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:04,880 Speaker 1: go through Dayton. Okay, that was the j Billis take ja. 690 00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:07,400 Speaker 2: Billis made a big deal on that on the ESPN 691 00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:09,200 Speaker 2: Reveal Show, and I don't. 692 00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:11,080 Speaker 1: Really get it. 693 00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:14,160 Speaker 2: I don't know why they have to be in the 694 00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:16,320 Speaker 2: field proper and I don't know why that's such a 695 00:30:16,360 --> 00:30:19,560 Speaker 2: stumbling block. If we are going to accept the existence 696 00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:23,440 Speaker 2: of the Dayton First four, then why is it so 697 00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:26,720 Speaker 2: important that they're in, Because that's what the Dayton First 698 00:30:26,760 --> 00:30:30,440 Speaker 2: four is created for. It's created for the really small 699 00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:34,080 Speaker 2: conference winners, and it's created for the fringy. 700 00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:37,000 Speaker 1: At large teams, and that's what they are based on. 701 00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:37,880 Speaker 1: The metrics. 702 00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:39,960 Speaker 2: Hey, I was waving that flag when Pitt was in 703 00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:41,600 Speaker 2: the first four a couple of years ago, and people 704 00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:43,320 Speaker 2: were trying to say it doesn't really matter because you're 705 00:30:43,320 --> 00:30:45,520 Speaker 2: not in the field proper. But people were telling me 706 00:30:45,560 --> 00:30:47,040 Speaker 2: I wasn't in the field proper. So I got to 707 00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:48,600 Speaker 2: keep that consistency now this time. 708 00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:49,520 Speaker 1: Number two. 709 00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:52,920 Speaker 2: Number two takeaway My biggest seating issues when it came 710 00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:55,920 Speaker 2: to the tournament. The Purdue boiler Makers, who won the 711 00:30:55,960 --> 00:30:59,240 Speaker 2: Big Ten tournament as a seventh seed in the Big Ten, 712 00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:02,960 Speaker 2: beating me get on Sunday snagging a two seed, whereas 713 00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:05,840 Speaker 2: Saint John's, who won the Big East regular season title 714 00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:09,080 Speaker 2: and the Big East Tournament, are on the five line. 715 00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:12,080 Speaker 1: I thought that was those were the most egregious seeding 716 00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:13,160 Speaker 1: airs in the field. 717 00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:16,040 Speaker 2: I'll give you one more that I think dovetails with 718 00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:20,600 Speaker 2: the Miami Ohio conversation. That's Akron as a twelve. If 719 00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:24,960 Speaker 2: there are twelve, then does how good's the MAC? Right? Yeah? 720 00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:26,960 Speaker 2: I mean I would well, no, no, I'm saying that 721 00:31:27,280 --> 00:31:30,960 Speaker 2: of the one bid leagues, that makes me feel like 722 00:31:31,040 --> 00:31:34,040 Speaker 2: they're probably one of the best one bid leagues. So 723 00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:36,680 Speaker 2: does Miami have to be a playing team or what 724 00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:39,000 Speaker 2: I was saying like, yeah, Max, probably then I would 725 00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:41,240 Speaker 2: use that would be something that would be a leverage 726 00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:44,360 Speaker 2: point in your argument to your favor. Yes, yeah, I 727 00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:47,640 Speaker 2: mean twelve as Akron, that's a team that is you know, 728 00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:50,520 Speaker 2: Saint John's a five definitely surprised me. That was a 729 00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:53,360 Speaker 2: shocking one to me. But twelve seeds are stingy as 730 00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:56,080 Speaker 2: we all know. They they're the cliche seed to pick 731 00:31:56,320 --> 00:31:59,200 Speaker 2: as an upset, So Akron, it is telling how they 732 00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:00,360 Speaker 2: think the MAC is in general. 733 00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:02,479 Speaker 1: That Acron was that twelve seed. But my number one 734 00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:05,080 Speaker 1: takeaway with this bracket has to do with the East Region. 735 00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:07,040 Speaker 1: I mean, it is just. 736 00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:12,600 Speaker 2: Loaded with blue blood teams, brand names, big time coaches, 737 00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:15,120 Speaker 2: and I gotta be honest with you, Tim, it kind 738 00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:17,800 Speaker 2: of feels a little made for TV ish in favor 739 00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:21,040 Speaker 2: of Duke. I mean, you've got Kansas over there, Saint 740 00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:24,320 Speaker 2: John's and Rick Pattino, Louisville's brand name is in there, 741 00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:27,920 Speaker 2: Michigan State and ISO Ucla is a brand name in there. 742 00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:30,240 Speaker 1: Hurley and Yukon is the two seed. I mean, it 743 00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:36,400 Speaker 1: just seems egregiously loaded, does it not. It's definitely tilted 744 00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:37,440 Speaker 1: towards that bracket. 745 00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:40,680 Speaker 2: Yes, But I you know, sometimes when they've done this before, 746 00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:43,400 Speaker 2: when I feel like they've stuffed, the brackets come back 747 00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:44,120 Speaker 2: to bite them. 748 00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:46,000 Speaker 1: Like Northern Iowa was gonna beat Saint John's. 749 00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:49,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, something something gets cannibalized in the first weekend, and 750 00:32:49,160 --> 00:32:51,320 Speaker 2: then there's a clear path for an out of nowhere 751 00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:53,560 Speaker 2: like a George Mason to get there, like the one 752 00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:55,040 Speaker 2: year they got to the Final four when they came 753 00:32:55,040 --> 00:32:56,640 Speaker 2: out of the CIA before they even got into. 754 00:32:56,520 --> 00:32:57,080 Speaker 1: The Atlantic ten. 755 00:32:57,120 --> 00:32:58,600 Speaker 2: You know what I mean, Yeah, no doubt, like they're 756 00:32:58,680 --> 00:33:01,640 Speaker 2: chalking up, you know, and I Saint John's Kansas second 757 00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:04,120 Speaker 2: round that's gonna turn into Caw Baptists Northern Iowa. I 758 00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:06,640 Speaker 2: will say this back to the Miami of Ohio argument. Okay, 759 00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:12,160 Speaker 2: they're playing forty minutes from their campus. Very true, They're 760 00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:17,000 Speaker 2: getting a national stage. The tournament is supposed to be 761 00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:21,120 Speaker 2: largely about the little guy taking out the big guy 762 00:33:21,280 --> 00:33:23,760 Speaker 2: on weekend number one. Now, I don't particularly like the 763 00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:29,120 Speaker 2: SMU matchup for them, but they've. 764 00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:29,400 Speaker 1: Got that chance. 765 00:33:30,320 --> 00:33:33,360 Speaker 2: So they're set up as well as they could be 766 00:33:33,560 --> 00:33:37,680 Speaker 2: to not only you know, be in the tournament, but 767 00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:41,840 Speaker 2: also validate all the arguments as to why they should 768 00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:45,360 Speaker 2: have been given an opportunity to schedule more like, here's 769 00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:47,680 Speaker 2: what I was afraid was gonna happen. Tom, Like Mike, 770 00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:51,040 Speaker 2: my biggest concern about Miami was they were gonna be 771 00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:53,880 Speaker 2: let out entirely, and it was all gonna be a 772 00:33:53,960 --> 00:33:56,680 Speaker 2: way for people to say, oh, well, gee, you know, like, 773 00:33:57,080 --> 00:33:59,640 Speaker 2: if we were allowed to expand to seventy six, Miami 774 00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:01,280 Speaker 2: would have been in. We would have gotten him in 775 00:34:01,320 --> 00:34:03,360 Speaker 2: for seventy six, but we couldn't get him in at 776 00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:05,880 Speaker 2: sixty eight, and then that way you could have the 777 00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:10,759 Speaker 2: little guys school be the poor foster child, right, you know, 778 00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:15,680 Speaker 2: having the bloated pig twelfth team out of the SEC 779 00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:18,520 Speaker 2: or fourteenth team out of the ACC or whatever it's 780 00:34:18,520 --> 00:34:21,239 Speaker 2: gonna be. No one is sympathetic to, Like, no one's 781 00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:23,799 Speaker 2: sympathetic to SMU right now, being like the last team 782 00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:26,520 Speaker 2: out of the ACC or whatever. No, and no one 783 00:34:26,600 --> 00:34:29,239 Speaker 2: sympathetic for Stephen Pearl being on the chopping block, or 784 00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:32,279 Speaker 2: no one sympathetic for an Indiana brand name school being 785 00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:34,040 Speaker 2: on the chopping block. In fact, it goes the other 786 00:34:34,080 --> 00:34:36,680 Speaker 2: way to him, Like that's hilarious, right, laughing at Auburn 787 00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:38,640 Speaker 2: being outside right now people are laughing at the fact 788 00:34:38,680 --> 00:34:41,120 Speaker 2: that Indiana is once again, you know, not in the 789 00:34:41,239 --> 00:34:45,000 Speaker 2: NCAA Tournament. I mean, but Indiana fans, honestly, if there's 790 00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:46,400 Speaker 2: ever a year for them to not care about being 791 00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:48,480 Speaker 2: in March Madness, this is the year for Indiana Hoosiers 792 00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:51,040 Speaker 2: to not care about that. But you're right, like Miami, 793 00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:53,440 Speaker 2: Ohio would have drummed up the sympathy that would have 794 00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:55,920 Speaker 2: been like the card that they call my gosh, yeah, 795 00:34:55,960 --> 00:34:58,759 Speaker 2: we would have looked to you love to get these underdogs. 796 00:34:58,280 --> 00:35:01,319 Speaker 1: In I mean, it's all about Cinderella, right Cinderella's if 797 00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:01,960 Speaker 1: we had. 798 00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:04,560 Speaker 2: More spots to give Miami of Ohio's right there, but 799 00:35:04,640 --> 00:35:05,879 Speaker 2: we're stuck with sixty eight. 800 00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:06,600 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, yea. 801 00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:08,160 Speaker 2: And I don't think they're gonna get to seventy six. 802 00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:09,840 Speaker 2: I do think they're gonna get to seventy two. And 803 00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:11,360 Speaker 2: as I said to you, the way they're gonna do 804 00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:13,480 Speaker 2: that is they're gonna do it by creating a second 805 00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:16,880 Speaker 2: Dayton And you could still get Miami of Ohio in 806 00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:19,800 Speaker 2: seventy two. And you could have made that case to say, geez, 807 00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:21,759 Speaker 2: you know, if we only expand a little bit now. 808 00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:23,880 Speaker 2: Of course they won't do that. It'll just be for 809 00:35:23,960 --> 00:35:27,399 Speaker 2: even more acc teams nor big ten teams the entire 810 00:35:27,560 --> 00:35:29,919 Speaker 2: sec and then and then Miami, Ohio will be number 811 00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:31,920 Speaker 2: seventy three instead of school number sixty nine. 812 00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:34,640 Speaker 1: That would have been left out. So we all know 813 00:35:34,719 --> 00:35:35,320 Speaker 1: how it's gonna go. 814 00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:37,520 Speaker 2: But that's the card that I thought they were gonna 815 00:35:37,560 --> 00:35:40,520 Speaker 2: play to say, oh gosh, you know they always a 816 00:35:40,560 --> 00:35:42,239 Speaker 2: little bit bigger. We would have gotten Miami in there, 817 00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:44,320 Speaker 2: and then people say, okay, expand it, then expand it 818 00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:46,920 Speaker 2: then and start to get a ground swell, but nobody 819 00:35:47,080 --> 00:35:49,759 Speaker 2: feels that way, nor should they for like the last 820 00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:52,560 Speaker 2: fringe school out of these mighty conferences, or like you 821 00:35:52,640 --> 00:35:55,200 Speaker 2: said with Indiana, I saw the tweet today. There's no 822 00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:57,279 Speaker 2: school that does less with more when it comes to 823 00:35:57,320 --> 00:36:00,320 Speaker 2: college basketball lately than Indiana because of what they have. 824 00:36:02,239 --> 00:36:04,560 Speaker 2: No one's gonna buy that. No one's gonna get behind that. 825 00:36:04,680 --> 00:36:07,359 Speaker 2: But you can get behind the little guy. And if 826 00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:10,600 Speaker 2: they do split the first four up into two different 827 00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:13,920 Speaker 2: first fours now because of expansion to seventy two, one 828 00:36:14,040 --> 00:36:15,680 Speaker 2: thing that they need to do is get rid of 829 00:36:15,719 --> 00:36:17,280 Speaker 2: the sixteen seed teams playing. 830 00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:18,719 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it's just boring. 831 00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:21,000 Speaker 2: No one cares, stupid, it's no one cares, and it's 832 00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:22,600 Speaker 2: always the late game is the one that matters. 833 00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:24,600 Speaker 1: So like we have the ten and eleven lines open. 834 00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:26,440 Speaker 2: If you're gonna do this for all the mate, for 835 00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:29,760 Speaker 2: all the at large, just leave every ten and eleven 836 00:36:29,840 --> 00:36:30,920 Speaker 2: line open on the bracket. 837 00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:32,320 Speaker 1: That's how you do it. 838 00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:34,239 Speaker 2: For once you get to seventy two, once you get 839 00:36:34,280 --> 00:36:36,719 Speaker 2: to seventy two, leave all the ten and eleven lines open. 840 00:36:37,239 --> 00:36:37,520 Speaker 2: You can. 841 00:36:38,120 --> 00:36:41,280 Speaker 1: You'll get more people in Dayton and Dayton two whatever 842 00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:43,160 Speaker 1: that is. Spokane or whatever. 843 00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:46,239 Speaker 2: You'll get more people to go, the ratings will be higher, 844 00:36:46,520 --> 00:36:49,400 Speaker 2: people will gamble on it more, people will watch it longer, 845 00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:52,360 Speaker 2: and then you'll just fill up the at large lines 846 00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:54,920 Speaker 2: that way, and you can kind of solve two problems 847 00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:56,960 Speaker 2: at once. This will be a little bit of an 848 00:36:56,960 --> 00:36:59,520 Speaker 2: anomaly because people care about Miami of Ohio this year. 849 00:36:59,520 --> 00:37:02,240 Speaker 2: They become a story. They're a local school to the venue. 850 00:37:02,719 --> 00:37:04,560 Speaker 2: So some of that will take care of itself. But 851 00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:06,719 Speaker 2: when they do go to seventy two, I hope they're 852 00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:08,480 Speaker 2: not dumb about it and they do it that way 853 00:37:08,520 --> 00:37:11,719 Speaker 2: because you're right, Uh. Have let the little guys right 854 00:37:11,800 --> 00:37:13,640 Speaker 2: into the bracket, give them their moments. They enough to 855 00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:17,919 Speaker 2: play a warm up game. Make the bloated pig, overseeded, 856 00:37:18,040 --> 00:37:21,399 Speaker 2: overslotted teams from the big conferences fight their way into 857 00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:21,840 Speaker 2: the bracket. 858 00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:22,640 Speaker 1: That's what I say. 859 00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:25,239 Speaker 2: And the name value from the teams a little like 860 00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:27,360 Speaker 2: I want to watch Texas and C State on Tuesday. 861 00:37:27,120 --> 00:37:29,640 Speaker 1: But I have to get through U NBC Howard first, exactly. 862 00:37:30,120 --> 00:37:31,000 Speaker 1: Don't say that about him. 863 00:37:31,040 --> 00:37:34,160 Speaker 2: Ferry four one two three three three WSDX or eight 864 00:37:34,239 --> 00:37:37,160 Speaker 2: three three four one two ninety nine thirty nine in 865 00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:40,160 Speaker 2: just thirty seconds, I'll pose our penguin's question to you 866 00:37:40,239 --> 00:37:42,279 Speaker 2: on Twitter, already getting some response, and one on the 867 00:37:42,320 --> 00:37:43,600 Speaker 2: phone lines as well. 868 00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:45,120 Speaker 1: And we'll talk some Steelers free easily. 869 00:37:45,120 --> 00:37:46,960 Speaker 2: We didn't talk about the Steelers at all in the 870 00:37:47,040 --> 00:37:48,879 Speaker 2: first hour, so we'll do some of that and hour 871 00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:50,279 Speaker 2: number two here in the Mark Badden Show. 872 00:37:50,320 --> 00:37:52,160 Speaker 1: This is one O five nine The X Shit