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Speaker 1: so far as that is concerned the security guarantee. Apparently

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Speaker 1: Investigators said the initial vetting severely lacking. Get a load

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Speaker 8: Yeah, good morning, And all this crap is gonna melt

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Speaker 1: from dry to wet and they locked the brakes up

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Speaker 1: and then proceeded to drive twenty miles per hour to

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Speaker 1: thirty five because the road was wet. Anyway, what are

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Speaker 1: you thinking about today, Tom? It's on your mind?

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Speaker 8: Well, I have to. I have to agree with you

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Speaker 8: about Trump, and it's it's my probably my biggest criticism

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Speaker 8: of the man. Just you know, take take Jay Ratlet's advice,

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Speaker 8: and sometimes you just have to keep your stupid mouth shut. Yeah,

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Speaker 8: you know, just don't say anything, you know, or condolences,

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Speaker 8: our thoughts and prayers go out to the family.

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Speaker 7: Leave it at that.

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Speaker 1: If you're so bothered your son cut their throat.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, that's I mean, that's a I don't care who

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Speaker 8: it is, you know, Yeah, you just that's that's not

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Speaker 8: that's crossing the line. And and and like you said,

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Speaker 8: probably politically speaking, the worst part is why give people

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Speaker 8: amo against you? You know, you know they already hate you,

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Speaker 8: but at least you know, now it's something that everyone

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Speaker 8: can agree on. Yeah, that was crossing, right. You know,

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Speaker 8: there's a lot of things they can hate Trump about.

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Speaker 8: And we're like, what is wrong with you? That's you're

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Speaker 8: deranged if you think that's so terrible? What's wrong with you?

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Speaker 8: This one I think we can all agree on. So like,

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Speaker 8: come on, dude, just shut up and do your job

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Speaker 8: and just leave the stuff alone. Somebody, somebody needs to

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Speaker 8: get in there. And you know, mister Trump, can you

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Speaker 8: handle your phone right?

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Speaker 1: And you know, and or or something along the lines

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Speaker 1: of in spite of the fact that we had you

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Speaker 1: know obvious political disagreements, and I do believe he was

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Speaker 1: suffering from Trump arrangement syndrome. No one, no family should

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Speaker 1: ever have to go through this. You know, his legacy

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Speaker 1: of movies exists. He was well loved for the movies

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Speaker 1: that he created. They were demonstrably wonderful. Blah blah blah

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Speaker 1: blah blah. And say something. If you have to say

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Speaker 1: something about politics, characterize it along those lines. But otherwise,

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Speaker 1: I think the safest bet is just to not say anything.

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Speaker 1: If your first thoughts, in your first inclination is to

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Speaker 1: go negative in the aftermath of that kind of tragedy,

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Speaker 1: just don't do it.

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Speaker 8: Agreed. Yeah, the whole the two of the greatest scenes

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Speaker 8: in movies, the Anigo Montoya scene and then the court

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Speaker 8: room scene with Jack Nicholson. I mean, I mean that

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Speaker 8: that's good work. That's great stuff. You've got to give

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Speaker 8: the man credit for it. Anyway, to quickly move move

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Speaker 8: on to what Jay was talking about, there needs to

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Speaker 8: be a line that we draw and say, Look, if

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Speaker 8: you're if you're going to help this country, you're gonna

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Speaker 8: help your state, your county, whatever you need to look,

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Speaker 8: we believe you need to agree on these things. We

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Speaker 8: can't vote for you if you don't at least agree

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Speaker 8: with and support fair minimum stuff. And so that's the

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Speaker 8: line between left and right, that's the line between Democrat

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Speaker 8: and Republican. And we do have to make it simple. Look,

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Speaker 8: we're not Yeah, there's a big umbrella. I understand about

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Speaker 8: the job that Alex has to do. But at some

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Speaker 8: point somebody needs to step up and go, Look, we're

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Speaker 8: drawing the line. You're either on this side of the

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Speaker 8: line or that side line. We're too far down the

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Speaker 8: road of everything being screwed up, and we can't keep

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Speaker 8: letting all this gray area to trying. No, it's one

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Speaker 8: side of the other people you got. You gotta make

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Speaker 8: the decision. So don't vote Rhino and don't vote Democrat.

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Speaker 8: Have a great day, Bry, You do the same.

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Speaker 1: Appreciate it. Tom five one three, two three Talk into

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Speaker 1: the stack is stupid, man. We have gone off the

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Speaker 1: Richter scale on this one. Joe Strecker execute producer, internet

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Speaker 1: research guru, all Ron, great guy and finder of the

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Speaker 1: most bizarre stack of stupid stories out there. Welcome to

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Speaker 1: the world of social media and angel box Girl, South Korean,

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Speaker 1: described as a model, became known as angel box girl,

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Speaker 1: Why cause you walked around in a cardboard box and

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Speaker 1: let strangers grow her? I Ai N, a self proclaimed

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Speaker 1: attention seeking South Korean model, went viral for a risk

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Speaker 1: case doune, making international headlines. Video of the young woman

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Speaker 1: wearing only a cardboard box and yes it looks as

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Speaker 1: ridiculous as it sounds, has four holes cut in and

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Speaker 1: so her legs and her arms can stick out, and

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Speaker 1: her head too, by the way, and two more extra

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Speaker 1: holes so people could engage in the groping yup went viral,

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Speaker 1: making her one of the most popular topics on social media.

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Speaker 1: According to reporting, young women prayed her herself in the

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Speaker 1: streets of Hung Day, a vibrant nightlife district of Seoul,

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Speaker 1: asking random people to put their hands through the holes

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Speaker 1: in the angel box and grope her naked or scantly

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Speaker 1: clad body, depending upon the day. I suppose his word

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Speaker 1: of angel box girl spread through the street. She ended

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Speaker 1: up attracting large groups of curious people that the police

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Speaker 1: had to disperse. She repeated the angel box routine in October,

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Speaker 1: after having done it previously. A different neighborhood described as

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Speaker 1: a posh neighborhood in the Gangam in Gangam videos. Photos

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Speaker 1: shared on social media show the model guiding random people's

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Speaker 1: hands through the holes in the cardboard box that they

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Speaker 1: could grow her breasts and other body parts. The stunts

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Speaker 1: made her an overnight sensation in South Korea. This is

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Speaker 1: a sad state of reality. Isn't it that this person

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Speaker 1: gains notoriety for doing this? But hey, P. T. Barnum

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Speaker 1: made a hell of a lot of money with the

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Speaker 1: bearded lady and the fat man, all kinds of other

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Speaker 1: crazy people. You pay five bucks, get into a tent

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Speaker 1: and see them all. Wouldn't you welcome to social media

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Speaker 1: where you don't have to pay a dime for it?

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Speaker 1: Behavior criticized as obscene. Of course, some people went as

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Speaker 1: far as the file complaints with the police. She was

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Speaker 1: recently charged with obscene exposure, which she's contesting. Quote, it's

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Speaker 1: freedom of expression. I don't think I should be charged

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Speaker 1: for indecent exposure. How can I be accused of making

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Speaker 1: an obscene performance if people were able to see weren't

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Speaker 1: able to see my body parts. I don't have fake breast,

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Speaker 1: I didn't get breast surgery. What the hell has that

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Speaker 1: got to do with anything. Performance is not a viral

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Speaker 1: marketing stunt. I just want to market myself.

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Speaker 7: Ah.

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Speaker 1: She was beaking with the Korea jeung Ang Daily. Joe,

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Speaker 1: do you still get the Koream jewing Ang Daily paper?

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Speaker 1: Are electronic paper? She said. Although it is a fine ideas,

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Speaker 1: I believe it is illogical to punish women for not

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Speaker 1: wearing clothes. Well, it wasn't the case for men when

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Speaker 1: they go shirtless. I actually saw many positive reactions with

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Speaker 1: people telling me they support me and applaud my courage. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: there's a bunch of twisted people out there that want

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Speaker 1: to fondle a naked woman's breast. Short supply of those

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Speaker 1: out in the world. That's crazy. Welcome to the Internet.

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Speaker 1: Five forty sixty five KRSTE talk station. Got some callers online,

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Speaker 1: taking them as soon as we get back fifty five

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Speaker 1: the talk station.

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Speaker 9: It's a the talk station.

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Speaker 1: Five point fifty fifty five Krsity talk station And a

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Speaker 1: Happy Tuesday to Dave Williams. Taxpaper shows up at seven

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Speaker 1: o five. Got a whole bunch of topic scorer with day.

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Speaker 1: We got the Daniel Davis Deep Dive and ask the

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Speaker 1: expert at the end of the show, gastro health, hold

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Speaker 1: your breath on that one rather interesting conversation. To go

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Speaker 1: over with that one, let's start with the phones. Got

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Speaker 1: Patrick in line first, Patrick, thanks for calling this morning.

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Speaker 10: Very good morning, Brian. So that angel in the box

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Speaker 10: girl that sounds like a porch pirate's fantasy come true.

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Speaker 10: The reason that I called is, h you know, we

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Speaker 10: all know that Trump is not one to actually filter

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Speaker 10: his words before they come out of his mouth.

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Speaker 1: Had noticed that.

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Speaker 10: That is one of the things that I think it

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Speaker 10: was his appeal to most of us, but also you know,

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Speaker 10: makes us cringe that every time, you know, we hear

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Speaker 10: something like this come out of his mouth because it's like,

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Speaker 10: you know, you know, all this is doing is like,

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Speaker 10: you know, reinforcing the left's beliefs that you know, he

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Speaker 10: shouldn't be in office. And that leads me into this

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Speaker 10: other point is that, you know, the political spectrum that

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Speaker 10: we're in right now, Brian, it has just become something

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Speaker 10: where we get a candidate out there who says, you know,

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Speaker 10: what he's going to do once he gets in office,

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Speaker 10: and then once he gets in office, it just becomes

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Speaker 10: the good old boys club where it's you know, and

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Speaker 10: that is one of the things that you know, government

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Speaker 10: has just grown so large into the good old boys club.

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Speaker 10: It's no longer for the people. It's for who, you know,

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Speaker 10: for everybody who's in that inner circle. Yeah, hello today, Brian.

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Speaker 1: Good to you too, Patrick. Or one of the reasons

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Speaker 1: I've been a Republican, you know, or at least lean Republican,

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Speaker 1: you know me, I characterize myself as a little little libertarian.

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Speaker 1: But for all the reasons that I used to characterize

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Speaker 1: myself as a Republican. Fiscal responsibility used to be one

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Speaker 1: of the you know, top platform principles of the Republican Party.

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Speaker 1: How many times have we had Republicans in control over

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Speaker 1: the past thirty forty years where we were promised fiscal responsibility.

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Speaker 1: I want to see our deficit blown up even more

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Speaker 1: trillions of dollars. It's one of the criticisms I had

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Speaker 1: during the first Trump administration went up four or five

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Speaker 1: trillion dollars under his watch. Where is the fiscal responsibility? Right?

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Speaker 1: We dug ourselves in an insurmountable hole. We're never gonna

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Speaker 1: dig out of it. The threat to our Fiat currency

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Speaker 1: is an existential one, and part of me wants to

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Speaker 1: believe that, you know, a lot of people in government

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Speaker 1: want the collapse of the United States dollar fiat currency

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Speaker 1: because that will allow phoenix to rise from the ashes

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Speaker 1: of what was the great United States of America after

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Speaker 1: it got done spending itself into oblivion, ruining the fiad currency. Well,

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Speaker 1: maybe we'll bring about socialism next round or something. Try

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Speaker 1: to envision the chaos that would ensue with the collapse

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Speaker 1: of the US dollar. I'm not saying that's going to

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Speaker 1: happen today or any time soon. We still have the globes'

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Speaker 1: largest economy. The world depends upon us, and thank God

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Speaker 1: for it. But on the trajectory we were on with

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Speaker 1: a bill or trillion dollars we have to pay in

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Speaker 1: debt service every year. This is unquestionably and objectively an

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Speaker 1: unsustainable trajectory. But to his point, once you get elected,

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Speaker 1: nobody seems to give a crap about the salvation of

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Speaker 1: our country. Are engaging in a measure of fiscal responsibility.

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Speaker 1: Oh my good, we can't cook that program, Mississippi James.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the morning show. My friend. How's the weather

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Speaker 1: down there.

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Speaker 9: We had a couple of cold nights, got down to

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Speaker 9: the nineteen but they shoot back up to about fifty.

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Speaker 9: The next day, right, So we're hanging in there. But hey,

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Speaker 9: I come in peace. I love everybody, and there's nothing

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Speaker 9: you can do about it. Good man, Now you know,

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Speaker 9: and I'm still on this old principle that will spiritual

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Speaker 9: beings going through human experience. And if you there's two

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Speaker 9: know they're the two main you know, either through creation

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Speaker 9: or evolution. And if you believe we was created by

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Speaker 9: God and scooping up a man and then blowing his

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Speaker 9: spirit into us, a lot of people just leave that

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Speaker 9: he blew his breath into us. But actually the way

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Speaker 9: it goes, he was blowing his spirit into us, which

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Speaker 9: is all about love, peace, errntity, come to sharing, caring,

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Speaker 9: you know, and you do all that, you will get victory.

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Speaker 9: But into this political education, financial justice, religion, all that

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Speaker 9: stuff is man made, man manipulated. And when that penalton swing,

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Speaker 9: and it swing so far to the other side, and

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Speaker 9: by me being a talk show junkie, I listened to

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Speaker 9: conservative liberal and they both saying the same thing. Just

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Speaker 9: ready to scratch him eyeballs out and vote for us

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Speaker 1: We've been through these periods of time before the Gilded Age,

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Speaker 1: when we had you know, corporate cities, you know the

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Speaker 1: one percenters took care of everything. And what happened The

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Speaker 1: unions rose up and they got a little bit more money,

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Speaker 1: and they got some love, they got some safety, you know,

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Speaker 1: I don't know where we are right now in this

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Speaker 1: global economy of ours, but when you talk about the

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Speaker 1: one percenters and the ten percenters, they may have all

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Speaker 1: that used to be the argument that Democrats, oh, it's

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Speaker 1: lot of socialist, globalist, multi multi billionaire leftists out there

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Speaker 1: it applies to who is rich and what political stripe

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Speaker 6: Today's top headlines coming up at the.

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Speaker 1: the Simosa Act. That's why we have Dave Williams in

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Speaker 1: one hour, followed by the Daniel Davis deep dive Sally.

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Speaker 1: For whatever reason, Breitbart didn't get back with Joe Strecker

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Speaker 1: Colonel Daniel Davis. Got quite a bit to talk with

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Speaker 1: him about the efforts to resolve the war between Russia

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Speaker 1: and Ukraine and some of the other developments going on

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Speaker 1: in the European Union. Ask the expert. We'll hear from

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Speaker 1: gastro health. What are the doctors there? I kid you

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Speaker 1: Hampshire Gary's got this morning. New Hampshire Gary, thanks for calling,

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Speaker 1: and Happy Tuesday to you.

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Speaker 7: Hey, Merry Christmas. Bryan, thank you and hopeful as well

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Speaker 7: with both you and Joe.

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Speaker 1: I can't speak for Joe. I see him in there.

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Speaker 1: He looks okay, Gary, I'll check with him master the show.

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Speaker 1: But thank you very much. I appreciate it.

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Speaker 7: Sure, sure, no problem. I'd like when you talk to

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Speaker 7: Daniel Davis. I've been listening to Daniel Davis. I guess

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Speaker 7: you've had him on for almost two years now, yeah,

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Speaker 7: at least a year. And every time you have him on,

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Speaker 7: and I'm not an apologist for Ukraine or anything like that,

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Speaker 7: but every every time, it's like, oh, it's the end

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Speaker 7: of Ukraine. It's the end of Ukraine. Well, just yesterday

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Speaker 7: Ukraine flew up the K class submarine, one of the

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Speaker 7: most prized possession of the Russian Navy in the Black

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Speaker 7: Sea Submarine pen with an underground drone. And now that

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Speaker 7: entire submarine pen or that naval base for the Black

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Speaker 7: Sea Fleet has got to be evacuated or rebuild up.

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Speaker 7: This is a major deal for a strike against Russia

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Speaker 7: and I'm just saying that every time he says that

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Speaker 7: this is nearing a complete they should surrender. You know,

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Speaker 7: you see things like this and I think what I'm

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Speaker 7: trying to say is, in a nutshell, the world is

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Speaker 7: gearing up with more wars, and I think we're preparing

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Speaker 7: for the World War three with all the conflicts. You know,

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Speaker 7: Vietnam is back at it with Laws, and we see

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Speaker 7: that Pakistan is back at it with India, and you know,

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Speaker 7: China is at it with Pakistan, and you know, we

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Speaker 7: see all these conflicts breaking out and armaments are being

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Speaker 7: built up. Just look at Ohio and andre building up,

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Speaker 7: and they're building these suicide drones. Warfaares changed dramatically where

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Speaker 7: I don't know if you need the manpower that you

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Speaker 7: used to, but you need more qualified men to operate

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Speaker 7: these systems. So you know, I'm just seeing I think

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Speaker 7: I just see it a little different that you know this,

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Speaker 7: this is this is getting more violent and it's going

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Speaker 7: to become more prevalent as time goes on. If things

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Speaker 7: don't change. We look at the Islamic uh, you know,

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Speaker 7: radicalism here in the United States.

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Speaker 1: Global into faddam. Many are calling it global into fada.

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Speaker 1: With all these terrorist attacks, most notably against the Jewish community. Yeah. Yeah, Oh,

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Speaker 1: and you know the article that I mentioned in the

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Speaker 1: five o'clock hour, and I recommend anybody read. It's in

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Speaker 1: the Wall Street Journal. After a Generation of Peace, Europe

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Speaker 1: tells people to prepare for war. Consistent with some of

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Speaker 1: the observations you're making. They're all gearing up and trying

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Speaker 1: to get more people into the military, build up their hardware.

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Speaker 1: They see an inevitable invasion from Russia. Now, whether or

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Speaker 1: not that's accurate or true or not, that's what they're

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Speaker 1: planning on, and that's what they're concerned about. Yes, I mean,

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Speaker 1: and we've got China to deal with and all in.

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Speaker 1: The warfare doesn't necessarily have to be a shooting war, Gary,

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Speaker 1: You know that invading our infrastructure, going after our power

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Speaker 1: systems and grids, our water supply, hacking, the political division

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Speaker 1: that is stirred every single moment in time on the internet,

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Speaker 1: you know, convincing young people to harm themselves or otherwise

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Speaker 1: turn their back on their country. I mean, it is

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Speaker 1: just it's warfare of a non shooting variety, just left

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Speaker 1: and right on a global scale.

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Speaker 7: Yeap in Germany, just for the first time since World

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Speaker 7: War Two stationed a brigade of army in Bulgaria. So

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Speaker 7: you know, there's repositioning going on in a massive scale,

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Speaker 7: and I mean massive for the first time since World

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Speaker 7: War Two.

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Speaker 1: Well, I mean points all well taken. And Ukraine may

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Speaker 1: score some symbolic victories. Of course, blowing up a sub

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Speaker 1: is a pretty big feather in their cap and it

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Speaker 1: may be used to rally the Ukrainians. Look at we're

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Speaker 1: making some progress. We scored this symbolic victory. But in

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Speaker 1: the grand scheme of things, does the elimination of one

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Speaker 1: submarine have any connection with or any bearing on the

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Speaker 1: ground war going on within the country. I don't know

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Speaker 1: that it does. No military strategists am I. But yeah,

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Speaker 1: you're going to see some you know, big thumbs up

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Speaker 1: for Ukraine in terms of military action. But overall they

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Speaker 1: are losing more territory and more human life every day,

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Speaker 1: and I think that's the practice thing that Davis focuses on.

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Speaker 1: You know, you Esprussia has more soldiers, they have more hardware.

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Speaker 1: Ukraine's running out of people and they're losing on the ground,

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Speaker 1: so you can't deny that reality. And then the European

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Speaker 1: Union while screaming out loud, we've got to stop them.

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Speaker 1: We've got to stop them. Doesn't have the ability to

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Speaker 1: stop them. They're not going to station they haven't so

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Speaker 1: far stationed their troops in Ukraine to fight side by

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Speaker 1: side with the Ukrainians. That's a step toward World War three,

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Speaker 1: I mean, more than probably any other, because you know,

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Speaker 1: NATO countries then once attacked by Russia, we have this

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Speaker 1: Article five obligation to defend the NATO countries, and that

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Speaker 1: could easily arise out of defense of Ukraine. And I

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Speaker 1: think that's one of the things that Trump is has

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Speaker 1: been trying to avoid. So very very complicated, beyond complicated, Gary,

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Speaker 1: but we live in a really complicated world right now, Man,

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Speaker 1: very complicated world. I appreciate it, I really do. And

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Speaker 1: I hear what you're saying about Daniel Davis. It really is.

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Speaker 1: He has been predicting the end of Ukraine, or at

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Speaker 1: least the capitulation on some level, and that's apparently still

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Speaker 1: what Trump's trying to negotiate now. Would us providing a

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Speaker 1: security agreement i'llah, Article five, as was suggested by Trump

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Speaker 1: the other day, would that solve the problem. It might

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Speaker 1: give Ukraine a little comfort in a little breathing room, saying, well,

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Speaker 1: we've now finally got the United States and the NATO

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Speaker 1: countries to agree to defend us against any further Russian incursion.

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Speaker 1: But is that a good thing for us? I know

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Speaker 1: we're short on hardware ourselves. I've seen too many articles

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Speaker 1: about how far behind we are in terms of our

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Speaker 1: own stockpiles to defend ourselves or maybe have to involve

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Speaker 1: ourselves in Thailand, for example, which I'm a little concerned

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Speaker 1: about Russia's pull no punch or Chinese communist parties pull

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Speaker 1: no punches when it comes to the desires on invading them.

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Speaker 1: So how much how many resources do we have, you know,

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Speaker 1: practically speaking? And can we defend ourselves if things go

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Speaker 1: even further left than they currently are going? And I

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Speaker 1: don't mean political left. So and you know the other

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Speaker 1: challenging thing for me in the article I just mentioned

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Speaker 1: again you can find it yourself. After a generation of peace,

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Speaker 1: Europe tells the people to prepare for war was something

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Speaker 1: else I alluded to in the last hour, Just like

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Speaker 1: read the short paragraph politicians across the region meaning European

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Speaker 1: Union region, if one that re instilling a martial mindset

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Speaker 1: into the public a company by an explanation of the

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Speaker 1: difficult spending trade offs ahead. In other words, we need

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Speaker 1: to buy more arms to defend ourselves against this Russian threat,

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Speaker 1: existential threat to NATO. We're going to have to cut

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Speaker 1: programs HM in socialist Europe. Wow, that's gonna be a

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Speaker 1: tough road to ho anyway. Trade offs is what they're

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Speaker 1: talking about. And here's the salient part of the fun

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Speaker 1: fact that really bothered me. A Gallup Pole last year

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Speaker 1: found that only a third of Europeans would be willing

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Speaker 1: to fight to defend their country, compared with heartbreaking forty

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Speaker 1: percent in the United States. I just want you to

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Speaker 1: ponder that forty one percent. That's it. See, this is

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Speaker 1: where we've gone off the rails. Ask yourself, what would

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Speaker 1: you be defending if you want to defend the United

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Speaker 1: States of America, What will be your first and foremost

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Speaker 1: reason to engage in that exercise. I mean, for me,

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Speaker 1: it's always freedom and liberty and everything we stand for

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Speaker 1: as a country. Compared to every place else in the world,

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Speaker 1: you don't get arrested for political utterances here, thank god.

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Speaker 1: Now they do in European Union. So only forty one percent. Now,

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Speaker 1: I hope the Gallup poll is just wildly inaccurate, but wow,

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Speaker 1: if you can't come up with a reason to defend

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Speaker 1: your own country, I think we have found ourselves in

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Speaker 1: a terrible situation. Six fifteen fifty five care CD talk Station.

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Speaker 1: Prescient he is, he can see into the future. Yesterday,

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Speaker 1: he joked to me and I passed along to you

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Speaker 1: that the hero in the Australian murder scene who wrestled

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Speaker 1: the gunman away from one of those crazy murderous Islamic

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Speaker 1: fundamentalist murderers. If I can repeat murder more than once

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Speaker 1: Babylon B headline, Joe had said that he's probably going

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Speaker 1: to be charged with a gun crime Babylon B. Of course,

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Speaker 1: the comedy website Australian man who wrestled gunaway from terrorists

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Speaker 1: charged with unlawful firearm possession. Well done. Joe Strecker couldn't

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Speaker 1: see that one coming a mile away, could you? Anyway?

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Speaker 1: Man manipulated? That's what I think the words that Mississippi

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Speaker 1: James used in the prior segment. Ford Motor Company said

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Speaker 1: yesterday it's going to be taking a nineteen point five

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Speaker 1: billion dollar right down after closing, or rather choosing to

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Speaker 1: discontinue electric vehicle models, at least several of them. Uh oh,

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Speaker 1: the all electric F one point fifty lightning pickup canceled, replaced.

871
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Speaker 1: They're going to go use a gasoline engine for battery recharging.

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Speaker 1: Fords also stopping production of a forthcoming electric truck, the

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Speaker 1: T three, along with the electric vans designed for commercial use.

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Speaker 1: Forts CEO Jim Farley, when the market's really changed over

875
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Speaker 1: the last couple of months, that was really the impetus

876
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Speaker 1: for us to make the call. They're now focusing on

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Speaker 1: gasoline engines and hybrid options because you didn't want the

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Speaker 1: electric cars. And the only reason apparently the electric cars

879
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Speaker 1: were even remotely popular at the seventy five hundred dollars

880
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Speaker 1: tax credit, which is there you go manipulation. I hate

881
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Speaker 1: the tax code and its manipulation of people's behavior. Charges

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Speaker 1: distributed over mostly the fourth quarter going into the next

883
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Speaker 1: year and twenty twenty seven, approximately eight point five billion

884
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Speaker 1: charges coming from stopping planned ev projects, six billion from

885
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Speaker 1: exiting a battery partnership with the South Korea is SK

886
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Speaker 1: and five billion four related program costs. Here's a great quote.

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Speaker 1: Ford's actions take place amid decreasing demand for battery only vehicles,

888
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Speaker 1: despite investments worth hundreds of billions earlier in the decade.

889
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Speaker 1: You call a tax in cent of an investment. See

890
00:51:24,160 --> 00:51:27,600
Speaker 1: here you go. You've got to believe in the religion

891
00:51:27,760 --> 00:51:31,640
Speaker 1: of climate change in order to even justify the quote

892
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Speaker 1: unquote investment, which is the United States taxpayer dollar funding

893
00:51:36,120 --> 00:51:38,839
Speaker 1: the purchase of one of these really expensive vehicles, so

894
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Speaker 1: the top ten percent can go out and feel morally

895
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Speaker 1: superior and drive around with a car that, while producing

896
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Speaker 1: massive quantities of pollution and CO two in the manufacturing

897
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Speaker 1: and chipping process, isn't producing any well with the exception

898
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Speaker 1: of the electricity used to generate the charging station that yes,

899
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Speaker 1: will probably be hooked up at least locally to a

900
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Speaker 1: gas fired plant. Yep, that's right, carbon dioxide coming out

901
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Speaker 1: of that. This is exactly the same thing as Obamacare.

902
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Speaker 1: It wouldn't and could not exist on its own in

903
00:52:10,400 --> 00:52:13,560
Speaker 1: the absence of these subsidies that the Democrats are dying

904
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Speaker 1: to put in place on a permanent basis. It's a

905
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Speaker 1: reflection of failure. We're looking at one hundred plus billion

906
00:52:21,520 --> 00:52:25,040
Speaker 1: dollars a year in supplements to keep a program alive

907
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Speaker 1: for I guess the six percent of the population that

908
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Speaker 1: use it or something will quote me on these figures.

909
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Speaker 1: I'm a washing figures this morning. But without the tax credit,

910
00:52:33,480 --> 00:52:38,879
Speaker 1: without the incentives, the plan collapses on itself. If there

911
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Speaker 1: was no ev incentive in the forum of seventy five

912
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Speaker 1: hundred dollars credit, they wouldn't even have sold the evs

913
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Speaker 1: that they sold. Some people would have been early adopters,

914
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Speaker 1: that's always the case. But if you have a choice

915
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Speaker 1: in what you want to choose, people apparently aren't willing

916
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Speaker 1: to sacrifice their choices in the name of climate alarmism.

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00:53:01,320 --> 00:53:03,040
Speaker 1: I think the vast number of people out there that

918
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Speaker 1: are buy vehicles generally speaking, if you pull them all,

919
00:53:06,400 --> 00:53:08,680
Speaker 1: do you believe in climate change, man made climate change,

920
00:53:08,719 --> 00:53:11,440
Speaker 1: or anything along those lines, Maybe they'd say yeah, and

921
00:53:11,480 --> 00:53:13,840
Speaker 1: maybe they say no. But when it comes to selecting

922
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Speaker 1: which vehicle they're going to buy, I think affordability is paramount.

923
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Speaker 1: Range is a concern for some people. The electric infrastructure

924
00:53:22,960 --> 00:53:24,840
Speaker 1: not quite up to snuff in a lot of areas

925
00:53:24,840 --> 00:53:27,840
Speaker 1: where there are no charging stations, inspite your taxpayer dollars

926
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Speaker 1: being allocated toward building them. The House of cards is collapsing.

927
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Speaker 1: Corollary article Brussels slams break on twenty thirty five combustion

928
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Speaker 1: engine ban. That's right, the European Commission getting ready to

929
00:53:41,080 --> 00:53:43,719
Speaker 1: pull the plug on its planned twenty thirty five ban

930
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Speaker 1: on combustion engine car sales. Why Germany, Italy and other

931
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Speaker 1: European automakers can't sell the evs. They can't compete with

932
00:53:55,640 --> 00:53:58,839
Speaker 1: the United States. They certainly can't compete with China. They

933
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Speaker 1: want to make a profit. In order to make a profit,

934
00:54:01,680 --> 00:54:07,040
Speaker 1: you have to allow people to buy internal combustion engines. Yeah, William,

935
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Speaker 1: you're on the phone. I will take your call. It's

936
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Speaker 1: already six twenty six. Got to put a quick word

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Speaker 1: in from my friends at Zimmer Sponsors. Unhappy Tuesday five

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Speaker 1: went three seven, nine, two to three talk pound five

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Speaker 1: fifty on eighteen t phones Before I get to the

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Speaker 1: local stories and Joe Strucker is still keeping track of

941
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Speaker 1: where residents in the city c Cincinnati voted and how

942
00:54:25,840 --> 00:54:28,720
Speaker 1: they voted in the most recent election. As it relates

943
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Speaker 1: to criminal activity in the various areas. Before we get

944
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Speaker 1: to that, let's see what William's got. William, thanks for calling.

945
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Speaker 1: Welcome to the show.

946
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Speaker 3: Hey Brian, top of the morning to you. I just

947
00:54:39,360 --> 00:54:42,680
Speaker 3: wanted to ask you if you've been paying close attention

948
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Speaker 3: to the circus wars that are heating up. Apparently last

949
00:54:48,200 --> 00:54:52,760
Speaker 3: night the mayor of Providence, Rhode Island challenged aftab pure

950
00:54:52,840 --> 00:54:58,440
Speaker 3: Bell to hold his beer. You know, the Metro, the

951
00:54:58,480 --> 00:55:02,840
Speaker 3: Metro circus scene really taken off. If Barnum and Bailey

952
00:55:02,880 --> 00:55:05,080
Speaker 3: were still around today, they'd be spent in bullets.

953
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Speaker 1: Fair enough on that is that remotely connected to something real, William,

954
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Speaker 1: because if it is, it's flown underneath my radar.

955
00:55:14,840 --> 00:55:16,760
Speaker 3: No, no, I was just wondering if you've been paying

956
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Speaker 3: attention to the press conferences they've been holding in a

957
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Speaker 3: Rope and Providence due to the brown shooting. And that

958
00:55:24,080 --> 00:55:28,120
Speaker 3: mayor is special, Oh and the police chief is special,

959
00:55:28,320 --> 00:55:31,680
Speaker 3: special as yesterday to hold his beer.

960
00:55:33,080 --> 00:55:37,120
Speaker 1: I appreciate special for all the wrong reasons. I suspect

961
00:55:37,200 --> 00:55:41,160
Speaker 1: you are suggesting or implying Donald Trump would he used

962
00:55:41,200 --> 00:55:43,120
Speaker 1: the R word, I think, William, But you know we're

963
00:55:43,120 --> 00:55:44,279
Speaker 1: not going to go down that road here in the

964
00:55:44,320 --> 00:55:47,680
Speaker 1: morning show, at least not right now and along those lines.

965
00:55:49,840 --> 00:55:53,480
Speaker 1: Just drecker editorial comment on this one less than forty

966
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Speaker 1: eight hours after the final snowflake fell in Cincinnati, Local

967
00:55:56,560 --> 00:56:01,160
Speaker 1: twelve reporting, thank you Marl Porter. Nearly every street appears

968
00:56:01,200 --> 00:56:03,879
Speaker 1: to have been salted and plowed, at least that's what

969
00:56:03,920 --> 00:56:10,320
Speaker 1: the city snowplow tracker website shows. Joe jaded and cynical

970
00:56:10,360 --> 00:56:12,560
Speaker 1: as to whether that is an accurate statement, considering that

971
00:56:12,719 --> 00:56:15,399
Speaker 1: Local twelve interviewed someone who did not have their street

972
00:56:15,480 --> 00:56:17,640
Speaker 1: taken care of, so I know there's more than one

973
00:56:17,719 --> 00:56:22,960
Speaker 1: street out there that wasn't touched. So nearly every street

974
00:56:23,160 --> 00:56:28,120
Speaker 1: nearly being the operative word, Joe, We'll go over to

975
00:56:28,200 --> 00:56:31,400
Speaker 1: South cummins Ville Highware. Joe wrote on the article, voted

976
00:56:31,480 --> 00:56:33,439
Speaker 1: ninety percent aft have par ball. We had a person

977
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Speaker 1: shot and hospitalized yesterday. Happened three point fifty pm on

978
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Speaker 1: Elmore Street. Excuse me, cough button, please say the victim

979
00:56:43,280 --> 00:56:45,200
Speaker 1: of shot in the leg drove themselves that you see

980
00:56:45,239 --> 00:56:48,680
Speaker 1: medical center believed have non life threatening energy injuries. Courting

981
00:56:48,719 --> 00:56:51,560
Speaker 1: the police victim shot in the leg, as I just

982
00:56:51,600 --> 00:56:54,760
Speaker 1: mentioned repeated twice in the article, Police identified one suspect

983
00:56:54,760 --> 00:56:57,720
Speaker 1: in the shooting. That person is not in custody. Police

984
00:56:57,719 --> 00:56:59,600
Speaker 1: also said there is no threat to the public and

985
00:56:59,640 --> 00:57:05,280
Speaker 1: this Will and Hey Joe is an isolated incident. Isolated incident.

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00:57:06,880 --> 00:57:10,919
Speaker 1: Sad news Cheese Cakery closing it's Madisonville storefront, where Joe

987
00:57:10,920 --> 00:57:13,680
Speaker 1: notes that Madison Will voted seventy five percent for I

988
00:57:13,760 --> 00:57:19,120
Speaker 1: have to have purvall, citing safety concerns. Liz Field, owner

989
00:57:19,120 --> 00:57:21,840
Speaker 1: of the bakery on Wetsell Avenue, announced the decision to

990
00:57:21,880 --> 00:57:25,520
Speaker 1: close December twenty eighth, this after six years in the neighborhood. Quote,

991
00:57:25,680 --> 00:57:28,280
Speaker 1: By focusing on one storefront, we'll be able to keep

992
00:57:28,320 --> 00:57:30,960
Speaker 1: shelf stock, support our baking team more sustainably, and bring

993
00:57:31,000 --> 00:57:33,560
Speaker 1: back many favorites you'll be missing. We know times are

994
00:57:33,600 --> 00:57:36,720
Speaker 1: tough and consumer spending is down, making things especially challenging

995
00:57:36,720 --> 00:57:39,680
Speaker 1: for our business. A couple of weeks ago, Field spoke

996
00:57:39,720 --> 00:57:43,320
Speaker 1: with The Enquirer media partner Fox nineteen sales down eighty

997
00:57:43,440 --> 00:57:46,680
Speaker 1: percent this year, lost multiple employees in one week, citing

998
00:57:47,520 --> 00:57:53,040
Speaker 1: safety concerns as their reason for leaving. Owner Miss Field

999
00:57:53,080 --> 00:57:55,000
Speaker 1: turned to social media at the time to raise concerns

1000
00:57:55,040 --> 00:57:57,840
Speaker 1: about safety on Wetszell Avenue, particularly from what she described

1001
00:57:57,840 --> 00:58:02,400
Speaker 1: as harassment by certain people under the influence in the area,

1002
00:58:02,880 --> 00:58:05,240
Speaker 1: saying I had three girls quit and they're all saying

1003
00:58:05,280 --> 00:58:08,480
Speaker 1: I don't feel safe. I don't feel safe. What else

1004
00:58:08,560 --> 00:58:12,400
Speaker 1: can I do? Cheese Kkery is now down to one

1005
00:58:12,440 --> 00:58:19,040
Speaker 1: location in Anderson Township off Beachmont Avenue, where apparently they

1006
00:58:19,080 --> 00:58:21,560
Speaker 1: do not struggle with the level of criminal activity and

1007
00:58:21,560 --> 00:58:25,480
Speaker 1: safety issues that some people within the City of Cincinnati limits,

1008
00:58:25,520 --> 00:58:30,640
Speaker 1: noticeably Madison or notably Madisonville, are dealing with. Yeah, PAPIs

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00:58:30,640 --> 00:58:32,320
Speaker 1: will be hanging out there all the time. We know

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00:58:32,400 --> 00:58:35,760
Speaker 1: that it's baked goods Joe, but he'll at least pay

1011
00:58:35,840 --> 00:58:37,400
Speaker 1: for him, and I don't know that he represents a

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00:58:37,480 --> 00:58:41,680
Speaker 1: danger to the public at large. Generally, some people may

1013
00:58:41,680 --> 00:58:44,600
Speaker 1: feel differently about former trustee PAPIs, but I don't feel

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00:58:44,640 --> 00:58:46,520
Speaker 1: that way. Six point thirty five Right now ififty five

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Speaker 1: car se de talk station, I feel great about USA installation.

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Speaker 1: Here at the de talk station six forty the fifty

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Speaker 1: five KRRI see the talk station. Oh listen appropriately. Fiend

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00:59:00,080 --> 00:59:03,400
Speaker 1: Bumper Music made a play call over the break. We

1019
00:59:03,440 --> 00:59:05,720
Speaker 1: need a plague update. It's been a while since we've

1020
00:59:05,760 --> 00:59:12,240
Speaker 1: done one and selected bumper music for the plague update. Anthrax,

1021
00:59:12,280 --> 00:59:18,280
Speaker 1: of course, one of Joe Strecker's favorites, caught in a mesh.

1022
00:59:24,760 --> 00:59:31,080
Speaker 1: Oh no, a new flu strain flu season upon us,

1023
00:59:31,120 --> 00:59:34,880
Speaker 1: and here we go, influenza a H three and two

1024
00:59:36,520 --> 00:59:40,920
Speaker 1: or the subclade cave variant making sense to you whatever,

1025
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Speaker 1: it's been detected as the rising global cases the dominant

1026
00:59:44,560 --> 00:59:50,160
Speaker 1: flu strain. Doctor Neil Mannier, professor of Public health and

1027
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Speaker 1: Practice of Boston's Northeast University, speaking of Fox News, it's

1028
00:59:53,440 --> 00:59:56,840
Speaker 1: becoming evident that this is a pretty severe variant to

1029
00:59:56,840 --> 00:59:58,680
Speaker 1: the flu. Certainly in other parts of the world where

1030
00:59:58,680 --> 01:00:01,520
Speaker 1: this variant has been prevalent, it's caused some severe illness,

1031
01:00:01,560 --> 01:00:05,320
Speaker 1: and we're seeing an aggressive flu season already. They describe

1032
01:00:05,360 --> 01:00:08,880
Speaker 1: it as different from prior strains of flu, heightened versions

1033
01:00:08,880 --> 01:00:12,400
Speaker 1: of typical symptoms fever, chills, headache, fatigue, coughs or throats,

1034
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Speaker 1: and running nose. So you have all those except just

1035
01:00:14,800 --> 01:00:22,320
Speaker 1: more of it. Subclade K, the doctor said, is the

1036
01:00:22,520 --> 01:00:25,720
Speaker 1: perfect storm for an aggressive flu season. He said, the

1037
01:00:25,840 --> 01:00:30,760
Speaker 1: vaccination rates overall are down this year. Why might that be?

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01:00:32,160 --> 01:00:35,040
Speaker 1: Fun fact report of Foxing is this year's flu vaccine

1039
01:00:35,040 --> 01:00:39,560
Speaker 1: does not address the specific strain. So the dominant strain

1040
01:00:39,640 --> 01:00:41,720
Speaker 1: out there that's causing all these problems worse than the

1041
01:00:41,760 --> 01:00:44,120
Speaker 1: regular flu strain. There's not even a vaccine out there

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Speaker 1: for it. Sounds like covid right hold on, He said,

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01:00:49,280 --> 01:00:52,480
Speaker 1: the vaccine is very important to get. On the heels

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Speaker 1: of the statement, this year's flu vaccine does not address

1045
01:00:55,440 --> 01:00:59,000
Speaker 1: this specific strain, the doctor says, this vaccine is very

1046
01:00:59,040 --> 01:01:03,520
Speaker 1: important to get. But because it's not perfectly aligned with

1047
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Speaker 1: this variant, I think that's also contributing to some degree

1048
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Speaker 1: to the severity of cases we're seeing. He thinks we're

1049
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Speaker 1: going into the flu season with lower vaccination rates than

1050
01:01:16,640 --> 01:01:19,560
Speaker 1: a variant that in itself seems to be more aggressive.

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Speaker 1: There's a lot of concern that this could be a

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Speaker 1: particularly difficult flu season, he said, both in terms of

1053
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Speaker 1: the total number of cases and the severity of the cases. Well,

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Speaker 1: maybe because that subcave variant is quite different from prior

1055
01:01:29,360 --> 01:01:36,439
Speaker 1: variance and the flu vaccine doesn't address it. It's also

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Speaker 1: note of those who are unvaccinated also at risk of

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01:01:38,680 --> 01:01:42,240
Speaker 1: experiencing more severe symptoms, as well as a higher risk

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Speaker 1: of hospitalization. Now listen I'm no doc. You draw your

1059
01:01:44,480 --> 01:01:46,920
Speaker 1: own conclusions on this one. Okay, you get the flu

1060
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Speaker 1: vaccine if you want. I'm not going to say whether

1061
01:01:48,880 --> 01:01:51,800
Speaker 1: to get it or not. But this sounded so much

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Speaker 1: like covid. Covid is going to prevent covid. Vaccine's going

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Speaker 1: to prevent you from getting covid. Uh, well no, it isn't. Covid.

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Speaker 1: Vaccine's going to prevent you from spetding covid. No, well

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Speaker 1: it isn't. This after everybody was lined up until they

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Speaker 1: were under threat of losing their job without getting a vaccine.

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Speaker 1: When they finally admitted it, Well, you know, it won't

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Speaker 1: stop the spread, it won't stop you from getting it,

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Speaker 1: but it'll reduce the severity. So this year's flu vaccine

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Speaker 1: does not address this specific strain, but they're suggesting that

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Speaker 1: it may reduce the severity. Okay, flu spread via airborne transmission.

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Speaker 1: So watch out for yourselves and when you're in crowds,

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Speaker 1: and that's one of the admonishments. Listen, if you're sick,

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Speaker 1: stay home. So especially if you think you're in a

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Speaker 1: contagious period of the flu or any of these other

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Speaker 1: illnesses that are seeing you, are your brother's keeper. So

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Speaker 1: stay home, don't go to work. Sound advice that and

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Speaker 1: then here's something well again, let's get Cleveland how it's

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Speaker 1: called before I dive over into another realm Cleveland.

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Speaker 3: Ow.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for calling this morning, Welcome to the show.

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Speaker 11: Good morning. I'm going to take this opportunity to use

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Speaker 11: your flu report to increase the levity on the show

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Speaker 11: and tell you a dad joke.

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Speaker 1: Knock yourself out.

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Speaker 11: It's it's a clean one. Yes, So you know the

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Speaker 11: difference between the H five bird flu and the H

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Speaker 11: one N one swine flu. No, well, the the the

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Speaker 11: bird flu requires tweetment and the swine flu requires you

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Speaker 11: to use an ointment.

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Speaker 1: Oh wow day, oh that hurt man. Undoubtedly a dad joke, though, hey,

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Speaker 1: feel free to take a stab at that. Five on three,

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Speaker 1: seven fifty two three talk. Take care of your safety,

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Speaker 1: you get your fireplace, chimney flu inspected wood burners out there.

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Speaker 1: Six fifty fifty five kc DE Talk station. Brian Thomas

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Speaker 1: in writing phone calls, I do a Brian on the

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Speaker 1: line different Brian five one, three, seven, eight and eighty

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Speaker 1: two to three talk Brian, thank you for calling this morning.

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Speaker 1: Happy Tuesday to you.

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Speaker 7: Happy Tuesday. And good morning.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, in that time yesterday a call.

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Speaker 7: But the lady that.

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Speaker 9: Owns a school you had called in.

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Speaker 8: You made that often the comment that sums up three

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Speaker 8: quarters of the problems we have.

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Speaker 7: You're their parent, you're not their friends.

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Speaker 9: Act like it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that was in connection with the online activities right

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Speaker 1: and the y you know it's talk about pressing, I

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Speaker 1: commented Joe Strecker was in connection with the joke about

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Speaker 1: the hero and the Australian murder situation. That is the

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Speaker 1: next article I wanted to read sort of an elaboration

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Speaker 1: on that, Brian, and I appreciate bringing it back up. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's a dangerous world out there, and parents, you owe

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Speaker 1: the biggest obligation to your children to keep them away

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Speaker 1: from the online perverts, predators, and every other danger form

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Speaker 1: that's out there, including sadly, chat GPT. I saw this

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Speaker 1: article from Breichberg yesterday. There's been another lawsuit now. This

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Speaker 1: is one of multiple lawsuits has been filed. This lawsuit

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Speaker 1: claims that AI chatpot are at the AI chatbot chat GPT,

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Speaker 1: specifically one of many chatbots that are out there, contributed

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Speaker 1: to a Connecticut man's killing his mother and himself happened

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Speaker 1: earlier this year, Bloomberg was reporting on this one. The

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Speaker 1: lawsuit claims that conversations with open AI's chat gpt chatbot

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Speaker 1: played a role at least partially responsible, if not largely

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Speaker 1: responsible for this murder suicide in Greenwich, Connecticut, happened in August.

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Speaker 1: Open Ai also Microsoft are defendants, which is the major

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Speaker 1: investor in open Ai. Fifty six year old fifty six

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Speaker 1: year old Steinerk Solberg was engaging with the artificial intelligence

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Speaker 1: chatbot for months about paranoid delusions after being under surveillance

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Speaker 1: and targeted for assassination. He thought he was obviously mentally

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Speaker 1: disturb That is unquestioned, and I think it's even alleged

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Speaker 1: in the lawsuit. The guy struggling with mental health issues,

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Speaker 1: mental health issues that were clearly exacerbated, if you believe

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Speaker 1: the allegations and the complaint by chat gpt, he killed

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Speaker 1: his eighty three year old mother, Susann Adams, and then

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Speaker 1: he took his own life. And the lawsuit claims that

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Speaker 1: his interactions with this AI program exacerbated his mental health

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Speaker 1: issues and led to that action, and as alleged, rather

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Speaker 1: than urging caution or recommending he seek help, Chat GPT

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Speaker 1: regularly assured him he was sane and lent credence to

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Speaker 1: his paranoid beliefs Ai agreed when Solberg found supposed hidden

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Speaker 1: symbols on a Chinese food receipt that he thought represented

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Speaker 1: his mother and a demon. Yeah, that's right. When he

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Speaker 1: complained to his mom in an angry outburst after he

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Speaker 1: disconnected a printer that they share, the chatbot suggested that

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Speaker 1: her reaction and aligned with in the chatbots words, someone

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Speaker 1: protecting a surveillance asset, clearly feeding his paranoid delusions. He

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Speaker 1: also told JABCHPT that his mom and her friend tried

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Speaker 1: poisoning him by putting a psychedelic drug in his car's

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Speaker 1: air vents A little looney that assertion, Yeah, you and

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Speaker 1: I can objectively agree upon that quote. Chat GPT replied,

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Speaker 1: that's a deeply serious event, Eric, and I believe you,

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Speaker 1: and if it was done by your mother and her friend,

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Speaker 1: that elevates the complexity and betrayal. Oh, this is what

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Speaker 1: you want your kids surfing around on huh. Seven other

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Speaker 1: lawsuits previously reported, Breitbard did the reporting on this one case,

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Speaker 1: family of a seventeen year old Amrie Lacy from Georgia

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Speaker 1: alleged their son was coached by chat GPT to take

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Speaker 1: his own life. Family of a twenty three year old

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Speaker 1: Zane Shamblin from Texas claimed that chat GPT contributed his

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Speaker 1: isolation and alienation from his parents before dying by suicide.

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Speaker 1: And I circle the words isolation and alienation because that's

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Speaker 1: clearly what happens when your children are immersed online for

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Speaker 1: multiple hours a day and not interacting with you or

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Speaker 1: their friends, but some remote actor, whether it's artificial intelligence

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Speaker 1: or some crazy guy in some pedophile organization out there,

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Speaker 1: that wants you to convince your child to take a

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Speaker 1: naked selfie and then extort money from them or otherwise

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Speaker 1: have them cause harm to themselves or kill themselves. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: there are people out in the world that think that's sport.

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Speaker 1: In the shambling case, the Chatbought allegedly glorified suicide repeatedly

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Speaker 1: during a four hour conversation before he shot himself with

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Speaker 1: a handgun. Course to that lawsuit, chat GPT wrote, quote

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Speaker 1: cold steel pressed against a mind that's already made peace.

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Speaker 1: That's not fear, that's clarity, and you're not rushing. You're

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Speaker 1: just ready, and we're not gonna let it go out

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Speaker 1: dull close quote. Yeah, that that goes on, and it's

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Speaker 1: possible to go on.

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Speaker 12: In the world.

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Speaker 1: Children do not have the necessary resources, They have not

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Speaker 1: the fundamental building blocks to deal with this type of complexity.

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Speaker 1: They don't appreciate the nefarious element in the world. And

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Speaker 1: apparently more and more children these days. I think they're

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Speaker 1: actually interacting with something that's real, and I find that

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Speaker 1: it's impossible to believe yet I know it's a thing.

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Speaker 1: Six fifty six Dave Williams Taxpayer Protection Alliance. We're gonna

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Speaker 1: talk waste in the Defense Authorization Act. That's the first

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Speaker 1: topic with Dave. Looking forward to that conversation. I love

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Speaker 1: Dave Williams. He'll be up next. I hope he can

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Speaker 1: stick around. It's seven six here at fifty five Kirter

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Speaker 1: CD talk Station Tuesday, and a very happy one to you.

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Speaker 1: At least enjoy my Tuesdays, especially when I see Dave

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Speaker 1: Williams on the rundown from the Taxpayer Protection Alliance, which

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Speaker 1: you can find online. I recommend you do with Protecting

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Speaker 1: Taxpayers dot org. Always looking out for where our idiot

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Speaker 1: elected officials are spending money, wasting money, and packing a

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Speaker 1: defense bill with a bunch of stuff that has nothing

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Speaker 1: to do with defense. Welcome back, Dave Williams, and an

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Speaker 1: early Merry Christmas to you and yours, my friend. Good

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Speaker 1: to have you back on the show.

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Speaker 4: Good morning, and early Merry Christmas to you too. And

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Speaker 4: I was talking to Joe right before I came on

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Speaker 4: and talking about the new mayor potentially an expansion of

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Speaker 4: the streetcar in Cincinnati.

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Speaker 1: Wow.

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Speaker 4: Wow, you guys have a lot of issues.

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Speaker 1: That is the delicate way of putting it. Yes, dysfunctional

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Speaker 1: we are, but you know, we've been talking about a

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Speaker 1: lot of elections have consequences. When only one in four

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Speaker 1: eligible voters in the city of Cincinnati turn out to vote,

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Speaker 1: you know, it's the hardcore left base that is so

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Speaker 1: well organized they are definitely going to show up. And then,

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Speaker 1: of course the Independence Republicans are more sane. People within

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Speaker 1: the Democrat Party don't bother because they think it's a

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Speaker 1: lost cause in a very blue city. And this is

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Speaker 1: what you get Leg number two or whatever of the

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Speaker 1: street car. Most likely, although I haven't seen any formal

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Speaker 1: proposals for that, a lot of rumors going around in

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Speaker 1: the background that that's in fact coming.

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Speaker 4: And why that would even be in the background discussion

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Speaker 4: just is beyond me, and I'm sure beyond you. I mean,

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Speaker 4: because if you look at you know, Cincinnati, but just

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Speaker 4: across the country, these things just lose money. They're shutting

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Speaker 4: down the DC streetcar next year. I mean, at least

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Speaker 4: you know, a modicum of common sense in DC. Right,

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Speaker 4: It's like this, and this thing has lost a ton

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Speaker 4: of money, so we're just shutting it down. I mean,

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Speaker 4: to cost two hundred million dollars to bill. They shouldn't

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Speaker 4: have built it in the first place. But you know,

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Speaker 4: maybe Cincinnati should look to DC and think, hmm, maybe

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Speaker 4: we go the other way and shut this thing down.

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Speaker 1: Well, that'd be a great idea. But come on, Dave,

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Speaker 1: it's free. You can ride just car for free. It

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Speaker 1: doesn't cost anything but the five million plus dollars annually

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Speaker 1: for debt service and maintenance. But no, it's free. By

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Speaker 1: the way, the city of Cincinnati struggling to fill a

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Speaker 1: massive budget hole on top of it. So, yeah, can

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Speaker 1: you try to make any sense out of that? Don't bother. No,

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Speaker 1: you can't pivoting over the National Defense Authorization Act, our

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Speaker 1: military funding bill. It's one of the twelve appropriations bills

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Speaker 1: are supposed to have done by now, which they never do.

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Speaker 1: We end up with an omnimus bill. But like all

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Speaker 1: of these big bills, you got to have bipartisan support,

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Speaker 1: and the uses an opportunity to pack. Well, in this case,

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Speaker 1: the Defense Authorsation Bill filled with stuff and things that

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Speaker 1: are not connected with the military and also are a

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Speaker 1: colossal waste of money. Hmm how about that.

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Speaker 4: Good figure? And yeah, this happens right so often, is

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Speaker 4: that they wait till the last minute. Then they had,

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Speaker 4: you know, stuff, these bills full of things that have

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Speaker 4: nothing to do with the actual bill itself, and you know,

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Speaker 4: they really count on the last minute, and people aren't

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Speaker 4: paying attention. They're you know, Christmas shopping, doing whatever, And

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Speaker 4: well Christmas shopping is what Congress is doing to these

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Speaker 4: in these bills.

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Speaker 1: No doubt. Well, I am so pleased me individually. I

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Speaker 1: am so pleased that the Defense Bill includes money money

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Speaker 1: to stop the spread of the greater banded hornet in

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Speaker 1: Guam Gwam, which parenthetically is going to tip over at

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Speaker 1: least a quord to one of our elected officials.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, a defense priority, absolutely. I mean, you can see

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Speaker 4: the huge defense implications of this, of this particular. You know,

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Speaker 4: obviously it has no defense implications, and it's just a

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Speaker 4: convenient way to spend money and shove it in a

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Speaker 4: bill that you know, hopefully no one pays attention to.

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Speaker 4: But we do. You do, I do, and you know

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Speaker 4: some other people do, but not enough people.

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Speaker 1: Actually, no doubt, and Dave, you're always paying attention to it.

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Speaker 1: I saw you're writing about this over protecting Taxpayers dot

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Speaker 1: org removing limits on funding for the world's fares. I'm

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Speaker 1: not even going to begin to question how that relates

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Speaker 1: to our national defense. Green Lighting the Young Balkan Leaders initiative,

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Speaker 1: I have no idea what that is, but it doesn't

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Speaker 1: involve anything here in the United States. And on top

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Speaker 1: of that, adding insult to injury, as you point out,

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Speaker 1: it doesn't even give a total dollar amount going to

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Speaker 1: those programs and probably a lot more so. Does that

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Speaker 1: mean unlimited funding or we just can't track it?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's the crazy part is when they don't even

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Speaker 4: put a dollar amount, because then it's open to the

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Speaker 4: discretion of the Department of Defense, I'm sorry, the Department

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Speaker 4: of War, or a member of Congress who will say, okay,

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Speaker 4: this is what I decide, and this is how much

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Speaker 4: mo is go to this initiative or this program. And

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Speaker 4: obviously that's no way to run a government.

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Speaker 1: No way to run a government. You and I agree

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Speaker 1: all day on that one particular item that distressed you.

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Speaker 1: The government run health services for the Native Americans, apparently

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Speaker 1: a failed program. But this defense bill builds upon the

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Speaker 1: healthcare system for Native Americans and the tribes and the

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Speaker 1: tribal lands they live upon. Again, how does that have

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Speaker 1: anything to do with defense?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, this is the Indian Health Service and this thing

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Speaker 4: has been an absolute failure for Native Americans and really

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Speaker 4: concerned that. And listen, this is kind of the theme of

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Speaker 4: the past few months. Is healthcare right, whether it's Obamacare

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Speaker 4: now the Indian Health Services. We keep doubling down on

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Speaker 4: failed programs and we're just kind of chipping at the

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Speaker 4: edges here, whether it's Obamacare and here we're just adding

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Speaker 4: more money to the Indian Health Service and not looking at, Okay,

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Speaker 4: what's working, what isn't working? What is the best way

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Speaker 4: to have people, you know, provide healthcare for themselves right?

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Speaker 4: Because I'm not going to say have government provide healthcare

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Speaker 4: for people. We have to switch the discussion. We have

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Speaker 4: to switch the model here as to how can we

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Speaker 4: put health care back in the decision of the families

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Speaker 4: of people. And you don't do that by expanding subsidies.

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Speaker 4: You don't do that by expanding the Indian Health Service.

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Speaker 4: You do it through free market reforms, health savings accounts,

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Speaker 4: ways that people can really invest in their healthcare. In Congress,

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Speaker 4: and you know, Speaker Mike Johnson, you know he held

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Speaker 4: the line when it came to expanding Obamacare subsidies. Some

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Speaker 4: in his party were saying extend the subsidies. He held

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Speaker 4: the line on this. And I've been very critical Speaker

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Speaker 4: Johnson for a number of things that have happened this year,

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Speaker 4: but he really has done a good job with the

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Speaker 4: Obamacare subsidies. But Brian, we have to put these decisions

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Speaker 4: back in the hands of people, and right now healthcare

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Speaker 4: decisions really aren't in our hands.

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Speaker 1: Well. And as you point out a lot of facts

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Speaker 1: that go along with your conclusions with regard to the

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Speaker 1: Indian Health Services, that you just get very poor health care,

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Speaker 1: and the IHS directly pays for the hospitals and the physicians. Now,

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Speaker 1: I've heard many many times and many many stories over

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Speaker 1: the years about the quality of physician that work for

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Speaker 1: the Native Americans, that they are not exactly the top

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Speaker 1: tier medical doctors. Quite often the worst of the worst

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Speaker 1: doctors end up as a government employee working in one

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Speaker 1: of these reservations and providing lower quality health care for them.

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Speaker 1: It's just it's kind of like doctors of last resort.

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Speaker 1: Is that part of the problem here, Dave.

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Speaker 4: It absolutely is. And look at Department Veteran Affairs. You know,

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Speaker 4: we've had the same problem that our veterans are getting

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Speaker 4: just really awful health care service, and it's because it's

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Speaker 4: a government run. You have bureaucrats running this, and you know,

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Speaker 4: it's really again these common threats right across the government,

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Speaker 4: whether it's the Indian Health Service, the VA, Obamacare, we

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Speaker 4: see the same things happen. And that's why we have

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Speaker 4: to just fundamentally change the way that we think about

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Speaker 4: healthcare in this country. And for them to add this

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Speaker 4: into a defense bill, and let's go back to the

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Speaker 4: beginning of this. This is part of a defense build.

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Speaker 4: This is not a standalone bill. This is not part

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Speaker 4: of a healthcare bill. This is part of a defense bill.

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Speaker 4: It should not be in here. And the reason is

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Speaker 4: you have hundreds of billions of dollars in this authorization bill.

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Speaker 4: You stick a couple of billion here and there. Seemingly

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Speaker 4: people won't notice. Obviously some people do. But the problem

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Speaker 4: is that Congress is just going to gloss over that

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Speaker 4: and say, well, for the defense of the country, we

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Speaker 4: have to pass all these things. The thing and Guam,

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Speaker 4: the Indian Health Service and all these things get signed

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Speaker 4: into law.

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Speaker 1: All right. Well, since I do have the Cincinnativa folks

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Speaker 1: on regularly, I think they've done a good job, at

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Speaker 1: least here locally, providing at least a high level of

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Speaker 1: quality for our local veterans. That does not say that

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Speaker 1: all VA programs and hospitals do that, but I've talked

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Speaker 1: with them and interacted with them enough, and they have

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Speaker 1: such a high approval rating that least comfortable with our

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Speaker 1: local VA. Although I will acknowledge that there's probably a

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Speaker 1: better way like the IHS to deal with healthcare issues generally,

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Speaker 1: it's a much broader solution that's out there. And again,

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Speaker 1: your free market points are very very well taken. Dave

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Speaker 1: Volumes taxpay protection lines. Pause, We'll bring it right back

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Speaker 1: and talk about prescription drug price fixing. Higher education reform

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Speaker 1: and what is this the most act Don't go away

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Speaker 1: Stream seven nineteen fifty about CARCD talk station Protecting Taxpayers

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Speaker 1: dot org, the website for the Taxpayer Protection Alliance. We

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Speaker 1: need to hear from Dave Williams from time to time,

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Speaker 1: and I thoroughly enjoy the work that he does all

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Speaker 1: year long and the time he spends with you and me.

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Speaker 1: And here he is on the phone, moving over to

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Speaker 1: something I've never quite understood, Dave delivering most favored nation

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Speaker 1: prescription drug pricing to American patients. That's the headline of

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Speaker 1: the or the name of the executive voted Donald Trump

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Speaker 1: signed earlier this year. So if they sell it cheaper

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Speaker 1: someplace else, then we get the cheaper price for pharmaceuticals.

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Speaker 1: I know where you're going on on this, and I

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Speaker 1: don't disagree. How is it that we became we're the

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Speaker 1: full retail country for pharmaceuticals. We pay full retail and

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Speaker 1: the other parts of the world, Canada, most notably our

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Speaker 1: northern neighbor, gets a massive discount over what we're paying,

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Speaker 1: so much so that a lot of people go to

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Speaker 1: pharmaceutical pharmacies in Canada to get their medications because they

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Speaker 1: save a lot of money over what they would pay

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Speaker 1: down to the Walgreens on the corner. So how did

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Speaker 1: that situation arise? And I know we need research. Somebody's

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Speaker 1: got to pay a lot for the drugs because that's

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Speaker 1: what funds of pharmaceutical companies, But how did the rest

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Speaker 1: of the world get to benefit from us supplementing them?

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Speaker 1: That doesn't seem fair as a practical point at the outset.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's really an interesting issue because we have pharmaceutical

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Speaker 4: companies that it takes them about twelve years and two

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Speaker 4: billion dollars to get a drug approved through the FDA,

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Speaker 4: and the rules are so stringent, and we're not talking

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Speaker 4: about safety has to obviously be concern number one, but

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Speaker 4: it's the efficiency of these drugs. If a drug is

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Speaker 4: ninety five percent efficient, then it will go to the market,

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Speaker 4: But if it's ninety four point nine or ninety four

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Speaker 4: point five, they have to go back to the drawing board,

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Speaker 4: go back to clinical trials. And we're getting to a

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Speaker 4: point where it's really tough to bring new medication, a

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Speaker 4: new drug to market, and this costs a lot of money.

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Speaker 4: And now listen, everybody wants to low prices on drugs. Listen,

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Speaker 4: I want to low price on a car, but you

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Speaker 4: don't institute price controls because you make that product less

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Speaker 4: available in that country. Because if you said to you

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Speaker 4: know a car dealer or a car manufacturer, you know

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Speaker 4: a very expensive car, you know a car that's worth

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Speaker 4: seventy five thousand dollars, you can only sell it for

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Speaker 4: forty thousand dollars. They aren't going to sell that car

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Speaker 4: and you're going to have And it's the same thing

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Speaker 4: with prescriptions and with drugs. Well, that's why you can't

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Speaker 4: randate to the private sector.

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Speaker 1: That's why Ford just pulled a plug, no pun intended

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Speaker 1: on the evs. The tax credit is expiring. The only

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Speaker 1: reason if anybody bought one of the first place, because

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Speaker 1: the seventy five hundred doll attachment. That is artificial manipulation.

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Speaker 1: Well kind of along the lines of what we're talking

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Speaker 1: about here, is it not?

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Speaker 4: It absolutely is. And you know there's the pharmacy Benefit Managers,

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Speaker 4: a three forty B program that have distorted this market

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Speaker 4: and have made hospitals rich, and something we've talked about obviously.

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Speaker 4: You know how the hospitals have benefited off the three

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Speaker 4: forty B program and also the PBMs, the pharmacy benefit.

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Speaker 1: How is that the PBM thing still a thing? Everyone

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Speaker 1: and his brothers, seems of all political stripes, will point

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Speaker 1: their fingers at that being an outrageous influencer over the

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Speaker 1: massive price increase we're paying the pharmacy. They're not even

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Speaker 1: a necessary component, are they?

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Speaker 4: They absolutely are not. And what I find this crazy

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Speaker 4: is every doctor in Congress, every member of Congress who

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Speaker 4: has a medical background, has been trying to get rid

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Speaker 4: of PBMs, has offered legislation, and for some reason, it

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Speaker 4: never gets a vote on the floor of the House

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Speaker 4: or the Senate. And we've partnered with some of these

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Speaker 4: folks in Congress, these members, you know, we've co authored

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Speaker 4: off eds and we've done everything we can, and it's

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Speaker 4: just there's not enough interest beyond the related medical Caucus

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Speaker 4: to get this done.

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Speaker 1: We need Thomas Massey to issue a discharge petition.

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Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, I love discharge petitions. I love the

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01:23:20,920 --> 01:23:24,320
Speaker 4: pressure that it puts on the speaker, and it just

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01:23:24,880 --> 01:23:26,680
Speaker 4: it's a wonderful tool, isn't it.

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Speaker 1: It is? Now Dave Williams coming, you know, just I

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Speaker 1: just want to know, since you've been dealing with this

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Speaker 1: for a long time. Obviously, the will isn't there in

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01:23:32,320 --> 01:23:34,799
Speaker 1: Congress to advance something that sounds like is the best

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01:23:34,840 --> 01:23:38,000
Speaker 1: possible way of providing some measure of almost immediate relief,

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Speaker 1: getting rid of the PBMs. What articulated reason in defense

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Speaker 1: of PBMs has been given to you? Since you've been

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Speaker 1: doing this for a while, what do they say, No, No,

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Speaker 1: we can't do that, because.

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Speaker 4: Well, there hasn't been an articulated reasons. It's just that

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Speaker 4: they won't bring this to the floor. And listen, there's

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Speaker 4: very powerful interest behind this. There's insurance companies and there's

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Speaker 4: hospitals on both issues. And that's why, because hospitals are

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Speaker 4: making a killing and listen, seriously, no pun intended on that,

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Speaker 4: but they are making a lot of money on the

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Speaker 4: three point forty B program because they get drugs at

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Speaker 4: dirt cheap prices and then they charge exorbitant prices either

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Speaker 4: for Medicare Medicaid or just for private insurance insurance. So

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Speaker 4: that's why this is happening. It's private, you know, the

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Speaker 4: insurance companies and hospitals. They're the ones that are lobbying

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Speaker 4: behind the scenes.

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Speaker 1: The hospital lobby insurance companies. Yeah, well I think we've

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Speaker 1: identified a big problem in the room, and that's been

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Speaker 1: a predominant problem for a lot of issues. When it

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Speaker 1: comes to healthcare, it's the money. I mean, that's just.

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Speaker 4: It's always followed the money. And you know what's happening

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Speaker 4: behind the scenes is a lot of lobbying. Money is

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Speaker 4: being spent, and again, consumers and taxpayers, they're the ones

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Speaker 4: that are suffering.

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Speaker 1: Clearly, all right, going back, will the rest of the

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Speaker 1: world then start paying more for pharmaceuticals? I mean, is

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Speaker 1: that a product to the pharmaceutical companies negotiating with foreign

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Speaker 1: lands and giving them a much substanti a substantially reduced

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Speaker 1: price for these drugs because we're paying the full freight.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, the other countries will always pay the lowest price.

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Speaker 4: And listen, you know, Canada's healthcare system is obviously completely broken,

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Speaker 4: I mean even more so than ours. You know, we

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Speaker 4: have people coming to our country for brain surgery because

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Speaker 4: in Canada they're saying, well, it's a way to year.

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Speaker 4: Well that's not exactly something you it should be, you know,

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Speaker 4: way to year for But and listen, I know someone

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Speaker 4: I've actually, you know, a friend of mine had to

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Speaker 4: come to this country for for surgery. So again their

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Speaker 4: system is more messed us in ours and they mandate

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Speaker 4: you know, they have even more socialist price controls in

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Speaker 4: places like Canada and Australia.

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Speaker 1: Well, something perhaps even more mismanaged and screwed up the

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Speaker 1: higher education situation in our country. We're going to address

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Speaker 1: that with Dave Voyames from the Taxpayer Protection Alliance Higher

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Speaker 1: Education Reform. I think we definitely need it. What approach

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Speaker 1: does day fifty five KRC The Talk Station seventh thirty

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Speaker 1: fifty KRCD Talk Station, Happy Tuesday. Dave Williams, the Taxpayer

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Speaker 1: Protection Alliance. Huh, moving through the issues Higher Education Reformact.

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Speaker 1: I think more and more people come to the realization

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Speaker 1: that the paying eighty one hundred thousand dollars or whatever

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01:26:16,240 --> 01:26:19,080
Speaker 1: an annual tuition is at a higher institution is not

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Speaker 1: worth the money. Come out with a worthless degree in

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Speaker 1: many cases, and massive debt. But even if you come

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Speaker 1: out with a good degree, it's a lot of massive

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Speaker 1: debt and you are engaged in a four year propaganda exercise.

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Speaker 1: Dave Williams, how do you fix this problem?

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Speaker 4: Wow, we're hitting all the biggies today, aren't were education?

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01:26:35,840 --> 01:26:39,200
Speaker 4: I mean, this really is, and you know, the evidence

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Speaker 4: is clear over the past number of years. The more

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Speaker 4: subsidies and more loans that go out for a higher education,

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Speaker 4: the more expensive it becomes. I mean, this is just

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Speaker 4: common sense. But the studies, you know, show that. And

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Speaker 4: what the bind administration tried to do is say, really

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Speaker 4: create a divide between for profit and nonprofit education. Now

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Speaker 4: for profit be trade schools, right. The nonprofit are the

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Speaker 4: traditional Harvard, you know, the university systems, that's the traditional nonprofit.

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01:27:08,160 --> 01:27:11,880
Speaker 4: But he said, okay, if you are for profit, you

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Speaker 4: have to show that there's going to be gainful employment

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Speaker 4: after your education. And it's really tough to determine what

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Speaker 4: gainful employment really is. And I say, and we're going

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Speaker 4: to cut off these subsidies if there's not gain full employment.

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Speaker 4: Why not do that for nonprofits?

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Speaker 1: Amen? I mean I was waiting for that set to drop.

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Speaker 1: But what you mean it has to be opportunity for

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01:27:33,720 --> 01:27:36,280
Speaker 1: gainful employment, not guaranteed you're going to get a job.

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Speaker 1: Because if you go into a trade school and you

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01:27:38,600 --> 01:27:41,559
Speaker 1: fail miserably and you can't perform the task you're being taught,

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01:27:41,640 --> 01:27:43,559
Speaker 1: you're not going to get a job, even though there

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Speaker 1: might be you know, thousands of HVAC jobs out there,

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01:27:46,439 --> 01:27:48,920
Speaker 1: or plumbing jobs or whatever. So I get the point.

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Speaker 1: You can't make that argument a not for profit school

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01:27:51,479 --> 01:27:54,920
Speaker 1: because no one wants anyone with a sociology degree or

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Speaker 1: a degree in some humanities program because philosophy, Ye, philosophy.

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Speaker 1: How about my degree political science? Again, if I hadn't

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Speaker 1: gone a day I f didn't go to law school,

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Speaker 1: I have no idea what to be doing today. If

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Speaker 1: I had with my political science degree, it was my hobby,

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01:28:08,720 --> 01:28:10,599
Speaker 1: it was a it was a it was a stepping

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Speaker 1: stone to do what I knew I was going to

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Speaker 1: do next, which was to go to law school. Otherwise

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Speaker 1: I probably would have gotten a degree in something that's well,

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Speaker 1: something that I could have been employed with.

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Speaker 5: Well.

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Speaker 4: And let's look at for profit and nonprofit. You have

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Speaker 4: a school like Harvard that has tens of billions of

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Speaker 4: dollars in endowment that is a profit. I mean, are

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Speaker 4: you kidding me? You look at these for profit trade schools,

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01:28:34,000 --> 01:28:37,639
Speaker 4: they don't have that. I mean, it's just it's crazy

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Speaker 4: how things are turned on its head. But again, this

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Speaker 4: is the Biden administration applying rules for one set and

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01:28:43,360 --> 01:28:45,559
Speaker 4: rules not and you know, not rules for the other

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01:28:45,920 --> 01:28:48,400
Speaker 4: and this this should be across the board. And I

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Speaker 4: got to tell you, I think people coming out of

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01:28:50,680 --> 01:28:54,080
Speaker 4: a for profit trade school have more of an opportunity

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Speaker 4: at gain full employment and people coming out of like

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01:28:57,760 --> 01:29:00,920
Speaker 4: you said, it's philosophy degree of political science degree. Yeah,

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01:29:01,080 --> 01:29:04,360
Speaker 4: it's it doesn't make sense apply the same rules across

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Speaker 4: the board.

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Speaker 1: I couldn't agree with you more. And you know, it

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Speaker 1: seems to me it's almost like a fiduciary obligation or

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01:29:11,000 --> 01:29:15,400
Speaker 1: an ethical obligation to sit down with an entering freshman

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Speaker 1: who has picked a major and go over it with

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Speaker 1: a with a counselor or something about the career prospects

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01:29:21,360 --> 01:29:23,519
Speaker 1: for that person. I'm not going to tell you not

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Speaker 1: to get an art degree, young man or a young woman,

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01:29:25,920 --> 01:29:28,840
Speaker 1: but here's the prospects an for a degree or for

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01:29:28,920 --> 01:29:31,240
Speaker 1: your degree getting you into the field that you want

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01:29:31,280 --> 01:29:34,360
Speaker 1: to study art. There are only three jobs available at

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Speaker 1: Salvabe's and all of them are filled. You know, you

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01:29:36,680 --> 01:29:39,759
Speaker 1: know what docents make, They nothing. They work for free

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Speaker 1: at museums. Right, you got elderly, wealthy women who are

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01:29:44,120 --> 01:29:46,320
Speaker 1: more than happy to go around and talk about abstract

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Speaker 1: art and not charge a dime for it, So there's

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Speaker 1: no career opportunity in that. That's a candid conversation that

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Speaker 1: everyone should be forced to sit through, so they contemplate

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01:29:55,240 --> 01:29:57,320
Speaker 1: the prospects of their careers in the future and how

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01:29:57,400 --> 01:29:59,000
Speaker 1: much in debt they're going to be when they get

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Speaker 1: out of college.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, there's absolutely no linkage between college and what they

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Speaker 4: do afterwards and their employment. And yeah, and jobs because

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01:30:09,320 --> 01:30:11,880
Speaker 4: you have art history majors, and listen, if you want

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01:30:11,920 --> 01:30:15,639
Speaker 4: to study that, fantastic, but understand what's going to happen

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Speaker 4: when you come out of college is that there aren't

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Speaker 4: a lot of opportunities for that. And listen, we also

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Speaker 4: live in a gig economy, Brian. People are doing things

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Speaker 4: outside of the education sphere, right they are. They are,

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01:30:27,200 --> 01:30:30,639
Speaker 4: you know, foregoing any sort of formal you know, post

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Speaker 4: secondary or higher education, and they're doing great. You know,

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Speaker 4: some of our best entrepreneurs right now are not going

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Speaker 4: to college or going to you know, for profit or nonprofit.

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Speaker 4: And I think we are shoving so much money into

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Speaker 4: these institutions and we're not getting anything out of it.

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Speaker 1: Not getting anything out of a bunch of angry people

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01:30:48,320 --> 01:30:50,160
Speaker 1: who are in debt with a degree that isn't worth

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Speaker 1: the paper it's written on. If i'd me be so bold,

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Speaker 1: And you know, you talk about degrees like art, and

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Speaker 1: I've said a bunch of times because my son's an

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Speaker 1: illustration of this. He quit college. You want to state university.

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Speaker 1: He was in computer science, I mean, a legitimate degree.

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01:31:03,400 --> 01:31:05,679
Speaker 1: There's a lot of jobs out there for computer engineers.

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Speaker 1: He quit. Why I can teach this self. My I

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01:31:08,439 --> 01:31:11,200
Speaker 1: can teach myself. Dad, This is a colossal waste of

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Speaker 1: my time and your money. And he went on and

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01:31:13,600 --> 01:31:15,840
Speaker 1: he taught himself coding because he knew some of it anyway,

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01:31:15,920 --> 01:31:18,040
Speaker 1: got some certificates for security. I mean, he's still in

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01:31:18,040 --> 01:31:20,320
Speaker 1: the computer business, but he didn't have a degree. Now,

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01:31:20,439 --> 01:31:22,960
Speaker 1: teach yourself. If you want to study Italian art and

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01:31:23,000 --> 01:31:25,760
Speaker 1: you want a degree in Italian art history, then you

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01:31:25,800 --> 01:31:27,840
Speaker 1: know you can do that on your own, right, Dave.

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01:31:27,920 --> 01:31:30,000
Speaker 1: I mean, the books are all out there. You don't

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Speaker 1: need a teacher to prepare a curriculum. Compare your own right.

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Speaker 4: And understand the consequences of that.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, Yeah, all right, Can you stick around for one

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01:31:38,600 --> 01:31:41,120
Speaker 1: more to tell us about the sumosa? Are you about wonderful?

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Speaker 1: One more? We're going to find out what in the

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01:31:42,840 --> 01:31:48,320
Speaker 1: hell is this Somosa Acting KARCD talk Station seven. If

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Speaker 1: you got KRCD talk station Happy Tuesday, Ryan Thomas. One

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01:31:51,360 --> 01:31:54,439
Speaker 1: more segment here with Dave Williams from the Taxpayer Protection

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Speaker 1: Alliance again online at Protecting Taxpayers dot org. Real quick

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Speaker 1: before we get to Simosa Acting. What that is? Dave,

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01:31:59,160 --> 01:32:01,320
Speaker 1: I've been on a real tear of late for obvious reasons,

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01:32:01,360 --> 01:32:03,160
Speaker 1: with all the stories in the news about fraud, waste

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01:32:03,160 --> 01:32:05,240
Speaker 1: and abuse, people builking the system. Whether you go up

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01:32:05,280 --> 01:32:07,639
Speaker 1: to Minnesota and see what's going on there, we find

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01:32:07,640 --> 01:32:10,480
Speaker 1: out more and more people took advantage of this parole program.

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01:32:10,520 --> 01:32:13,840
Speaker 1: You got child molesters getting involved, and no one did

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01:32:13,840 --> 01:32:16,240
Speaker 1: any oversight. No one was looking out for fraud, waste

1629
01:32:16,240 --> 01:32:19,640
Speaker 1: and abuse. No one bothered cross referencing or checking people's identities.

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01:32:19,880 --> 01:32:23,000
Speaker 1: Social security numbers use thousands of times dead people's social

1631
01:32:23,000 --> 01:32:26,880
Speaker 1: security numbers. This is an easy fix with AI these days, Dave,

1632
01:32:27,000 --> 01:32:31,040
Speaker 1: letting departments share information when, Dear God, when will our

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01:32:31,080 --> 01:32:35,960
Speaker 1: elected officials put first and foremost avoiding and preventing as

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Speaker 1: item number one, the ability to engage in fraud, wasted

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01:32:38,880 --> 01:32:41,479
Speaker 1: abuse in any government program. Because Oh, come on, they're

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01:32:41,479 --> 01:32:44,799
Speaker 1: all there to serve someone who desperately needs a government program.

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01:32:44,960 --> 01:32:47,720
Speaker 1: Aren't we harming those people the most by allowing this

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Speaker 1: to go on?

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Speaker 9: Dave?

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01:32:50,080 --> 01:32:53,719
Speaker 4: We have the technological tools to do this. The government

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01:32:53,800 --> 01:32:57,040
Speaker 4: chooses not to use them. And it's frustrating because if

1642
01:32:57,080 --> 01:32:59,799
Speaker 4: you look at you know, child safety, any of these issues,

1643
01:33:00,240 --> 01:33:02,920
Speaker 4: every dollar that is wasted is a dollar that is

1644
01:33:02,920 --> 01:33:07,280
Speaker 4: not helping somebody, and it's it's frustrating as heck. And

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01:33:07,320 --> 01:33:10,640
Speaker 4: it's just there's no excuses for this, and absolutely no excuses.

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01:33:10,680 --> 01:33:13,040
Speaker 4: We have phones, you know, the phone that I'm using

1647
01:33:13,120 --> 01:33:16,880
Speaker 4: right now has amazing technical capabilities, yet the government is

1648
01:33:16,920 --> 01:33:20,040
Speaker 4: still stuck in almost the nineteenth century at this point.

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01:33:21,000 --> 01:33:23,480
Speaker 4: So I look at the IRS. The IRS has software

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01:33:23,600 --> 01:33:27,360
Speaker 4: that is fifty or sixty years old. How does that happen?

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01:33:27,720 --> 01:33:30,120
Speaker 4: How does the government allow that to happen? Fifty or

1652
01:33:30,120 --> 01:33:33,440
Speaker 4: sixty year old software as one of the most important agencies,

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01:33:33,479 --> 01:33:35,200
Speaker 4: the IRS.

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01:33:34,439 --> 01:33:37,120
Speaker 1: And they want to take over doing our tax returns

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Speaker 1: for us? Dave, Yeah, we'll get right on that, all right.

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01:33:40,520 --> 01:33:42,280
Speaker 1: Thank you for letting me get that out of my system.

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01:33:42,280 --> 01:33:43,759
Speaker 1: I have been on a bit of a tear lately

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01:33:43,800 --> 01:33:48,800
Speaker 1: on that so strengthening agency management and oversight of software

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01:33:48,840 --> 01:33:51,240
Speaker 1: assets SOMOSA Act. What's this?

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Speaker 4: You know, Brian, we've talked a lot about difficult issues healthcare, education,

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01:33:57,120 --> 01:33:59,960
Speaker 4: this is not This is about looking at the software

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01:34:00,160 --> 01:34:02,960
Speaker 4: that the government owns and just making it more efficient

1663
01:34:02,960 --> 01:34:05,799
Speaker 4: and saying, listen, we spend ten to fifteen billion dollars

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01:34:05,840 --> 01:34:07,640
Speaker 4: on software software licenses.

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01:34:08,080 --> 01:34:08,360
Speaker 13: What is.

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Speaker 4: And just doing an inventory, were talking about five hundred

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01:34:16,479 --> 01:34:18,760
Speaker 4: to seven one hundred and fifty million dollars a year

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01:34:18,800 --> 01:34:23,719
Speaker 4: could be saved on licenses, on software licenses. This is easy, man,

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01:34:24,720 --> 01:34:26,000
Speaker 4: This is super easy.

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01:34:26,479 --> 01:34:30,080
Speaker 1: It really is, all right. So it always points when

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01:34:30,120 --> 01:34:33,000
Speaker 1: you have something that seems so crystal clear and seems

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01:34:33,000 --> 01:34:36,920
Speaker 1: so objectively bipartisan to be a good idea, what kind

1673
01:34:36,920 --> 01:34:39,160
Speaker 1: of trouble you're running into getting some traction on this one?

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01:34:39,280 --> 01:34:42,040
Speaker 1: Or is it a bipartisan supported piece of legislation.

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01:34:42,960 --> 01:34:46,559
Speaker 4: It is bipartisan. And what I think what happens is

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01:34:46,560 --> 01:34:48,760
Speaker 4: that they run out of time. I look at this year, right,

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01:34:48,800 --> 01:34:50,400
Speaker 4: what there's a month and a half of a government

1678
01:34:50,439 --> 01:34:52,840
Speaker 4: shutdown and nothing happened. This would have been a great

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01:34:52,880 --> 01:34:55,960
Speaker 4: time for the Speaker to have hearings, to hold hearings

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01:34:55,960 --> 01:34:58,600
Speaker 4: on the Somosa Act and to be ready for this

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01:34:58,680 --> 01:35:01,679
Speaker 4: to be introduced right after the government shut down, you know, finished,

1682
01:35:01,800 --> 01:35:04,760
Speaker 4: So there's been opportunities to do this, and again it's

1683
01:35:04,800 --> 01:35:08,360
Speaker 4: just to malaise the slowness. You know, the Congress moves

1684
01:35:08,400 --> 01:35:11,800
Speaker 4: like the continents. It's just so slow. But you know, hopefully,

1685
01:35:11,840 --> 01:35:14,599
Speaker 4: and you know it was, it's being introduced this week

1686
01:35:14,680 --> 01:35:16,760
Speaker 4: again and hopefully we'll get a vote by the end

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Speaker 4: of the year.

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Speaker 1: Well, and you know, to people's point about the imperial presidency,

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01:35:20,920 --> 01:35:23,599
Speaker 1: it's that slow pace and that inability to get anything

1690
01:35:23,680 --> 01:35:27,400
Speaker 1: logical and reasonable done. Ignore the politically charged issues out

1691
01:35:27,439 --> 01:35:29,640
Speaker 1: there in the world where you have massive division. If

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01:35:29,640 --> 01:35:33,880
Speaker 1: you got something so simple, easy and important and beneficial

1693
01:35:33,920 --> 01:35:35,960
Speaker 1: to everyone, like this the most Act, you'd expect them

1694
01:35:36,000 --> 01:35:37,679
Speaker 1: to act on it right away. But since they don't,

1695
01:35:37,720 --> 01:35:41,519
Speaker 1: this invites well executive action. I mean, I know, people

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01:35:41,560 --> 01:35:44,240
Speaker 1: say Trump exceeds his authority and his boundaries, and even

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Speaker 1: I say that from time to time as well. But

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Speaker 1: that's what people want political expedients, and you're that's going

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Speaker 1: to not necessarily near to our collective benefit down the

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Speaker 1: road if it has to continue.

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Speaker 4: And they want leadership, they want leadership out of the House,

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Speaker 4: the Senate and the White House, and again, a lot

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Speaker 4: of things we don't like. You know, the President's dealing

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Speaker 4: with tariffs, but you know, Mike Johnson and you know

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Speaker 4: John Thune. We need leadership from those bodies to really

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Speaker 4: put these things through. And again, this is not a

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Speaker 4: discussion we should be having, right because Democrats support this,

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Speaker 4: Republicans support this. This should have been done a long

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Speaker 4: time ago. And you know, hopefully, listen, I don't want

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Speaker 4: to be too much on Pollyanna here, but it's the

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Speaker 4: end of the year. They are bringing this back for

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Speaker 4: a vote on the floor, so maybe maybe we'll see

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Speaker 4: some movement.

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Speaker 1: Well, I was getting ready to point a finger at

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Speaker 1: Speaker Johnson because he has the power and authority to

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Speaker 1: either bring something for a vote or not. That's why

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Speaker 1: we talked about the discharge petition before, because it takes

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Speaker 1: that authority out of his hands. But at least he

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Speaker 1: is bringing this for a vote, is what I'm understanding.

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Speaker 4: Yep, absolutely, all right, listen, I've been critical of Speaker

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01:36:50,479 --> 01:36:53,000
Speaker 4: Johnson too, but hopefully, you know, this is one thing

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Speaker 4: he can get right.

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Speaker 1: I would hope, so we could use some bipartisanship, especially

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Speaker 1: along these lines. How's this looking in this Senate comparable

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Speaker 1: perspective in the Senate? That is bipartisan support?

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Speaker 9: It is, it is.

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Speaker 4: We do have bipartisan support it in the Senate also,

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Speaker 4: And I think, really now it's a matter of time

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01:37:09,240 --> 01:37:11,640
Speaker 4: because times, you know, the clock is ticking on the

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Speaker 4: end of the year. So fingers crossed on this one.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, like that's not a strategy. Dave, keep up the

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Speaker 1: great work. I certainly appreciate you you're doing at the

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Speaker 1: Taxpayer of protect Alliance. And again I'll encourage my listeners

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Speaker 1: to bookmark your web page Protecting Taxpayers dot org. Until

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01:37:27,640 --> 01:37:29,200
Speaker 1: we talk again, I doubt it's before the end of

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Speaker 1: the year because I'm off after the twenty third, but

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01:37:32,080 --> 01:37:35,599
Speaker 1: looking forward to another series of discussions in the next county.

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Speaker 4: Your Dave, have a wonderful Christmas you and your family.

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Speaker 1: Right back at you, my friend, Merry Christmas to you

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Speaker 1: and everybody at the organization seven forty six right now,

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Speaker 1: if if do you five K seat seven to fifty one,

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Speaker 1: if if you have a car seat talk station, no

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Speaker 1: bright Bart insight scope. The planning person I found out

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Speaker 1: a little while ago the person responsible for scheduling is

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Speaker 1: on vacation or otherwise off, so sadly no inside scoop

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Speaker 1: with bright bart news over the top of the or

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01:38:00,160 --> 01:38:01,800
Speaker 1: Hew's giving us some time to talk. If you'd like

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01:38:01,840 --> 01:38:04,639
Speaker 1: to call, feel free to do so. Five on three, seven, four,

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Speaker 1: nine fifty, five hundred, eight hundred and eighty two to

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Speaker 1: three talk or go at pound five fifty on eighteen

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Speaker 1: and t punds. We will get the Daniel Davis Deep

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01:38:10,920 --> 01:38:13,639
Speaker 1: Dive with retired Lieutenant Colonel Daniel Davis at eight thirty

1753
01:38:13,760 --> 01:38:18,120
Speaker 1: and are asked the expert from gastro Health topic your

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01:38:18,120 --> 01:38:23,400
Speaker 1: conversation that took me as a surprise, hemorrhoids yep, eight

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01:38:23,520 --> 01:38:25,439
Speaker 1: fifty for that. Apparently they got some treatments for that,

1756
01:38:25,479 --> 01:38:27,680
Speaker 1: and apparently according to the notes I've been given, a

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01:38:27,800 --> 01:38:32,960
Speaker 1: lot of people have a problem with them. So any hey, listen,

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01:38:33,000 --> 01:38:34,840
Speaker 1: I just show up and look at the rundown and

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01:38:34,880 --> 01:38:36,400
Speaker 1: deal with it as I go. So we'll do that

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01:38:36,439 --> 01:38:39,960
Speaker 1: at the end of the next hour. Ah Okay, guns

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01:38:40,040 --> 01:38:42,519
Speaker 1: will kill people. People kill people, and people are motivated

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Speaker 1: by something like political philosophies quite often. So we have

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Speaker 1: Islamic extremist killing a bunch of Australians, most notably the

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Speaker 1: Australian Jewish population. We have fifteen fewer of them and

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Speaker 1: forty injured. Two bat crap crazy Islamic fundamentalists opening fire

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Speaker 1: on innocent, unsuspecting Jews enjoying the first day of Hanukkah.

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Speaker 1: It's a horror show. Now you are talking about the

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01:39:05,120 --> 01:39:07,960
Speaker 1: most gun controlled country in the world. Practically, I may

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01:39:08,000 --> 01:39:11,599
Speaker 1: be overstating the case anyway. Of course, in the aftermath

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Speaker 1: of that, in spite of the fact that they already

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Speaker 1: have some of the toughest gun controls in the world,

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Speaker 1: Prime Minister Anthony Albany is talking about strengthening the country's

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01:39:18,040 --> 01:39:20,400
Speaker 1: gun laws in the aftermath of this father son pair

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Speaker 1: killing a bunch of Jews on the beach. Hmm. Some

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Speaker 1: government leaders proposing restricting gun ownership only to Australian citizens. Well,

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01:39:32,680 --> 01:39:37,639
Speaker 1: isn't that xenophobic? And does that mean Australian citizens would

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01:39:37,680 --> 01:39:39,760
Speaker 1: never engage in this kind of conduct. None of them

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01:39:39,800 --> 01:39:44,800
Speaker 1: will lose a screw and kind of go shooting on everybody.

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01:39:45,720 --> 01:39:49,479
Speaker 1: Some government leaders proposing what they say are additional use

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Speaker 1: of criminal intelligence. That's in quotes in deciding who was

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Speaker 1: allowed to get a firearms license, which could hypothetically have

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01:39:55,840 --> 01:39:59,240
Speaker 1: meant that this twenty nineteen investigation into the twenty four

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01:39:59,320 --> 01:40:02,360
Speaker 1: year old murderer from the other Day, son of the

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01:40:02,479 --> 01:40:06,840
Speaker 1: fifty year old late Sojian Achron both apparently radicalized and

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01:40:06,880 --> 01:40:12,600
Speaker 1: took avouta isis. They investigated because of his suspicious associates

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01:40:12,640 --> 01:40:14,519
Speaker 1: and they didn't follow through with it, or otherwise he

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01:40:14,560 --> 01:40:18,120
Speaker 1: fell off their radar. But they're suggesting that his involvement

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01:40:18,200 --> 01:40:20,840
Speaker 1: with the nefarious elements of the world, in spite of

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Speaker 1: the fact that led to nothing, might have disqualified the

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Speaker 1: father from owning the gun. Slippery slope that one not

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01:40:29,680 --> 01:40:33,880
Speaker 1: sins of the father and sins of the sun anyway.

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Speaker 1: Under the National Firearms Agreement, which was post nineteen ninety

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Speaker 1: six massacre in Port Arthur, Tasmania, which meant one guy killed,

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01:40:41,439 --> 01:40:44,280
Speaker 1: thirty five people wounded a whole bunch of others, gun

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01:40:44,280 --> 01:40:49,120
Speaker 1: ownership explicitly made a privilege. They had some buyback programs

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01:40:49,160 --> 01:40:53,080
Speaker 1: and voluntary surrenders which apparently more than a million firearms

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01:40:53,120 --> 01:40:56,960
Speaker 1: were then destroyed. In order to possess a firearm in Australia,

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01:40:56,960 --> 01:41:00,800
Speaker 1: you have to have a firearm license and demonstrate at

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01:41:00,880 --> 01:41:06,799
Speaker 1: least one, and according to legislation, genuine reason for ownership

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Speaker 1: that doesn't include self defense. So I guess the police

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01:41:09,479 --> 01:41:11,519
Speaker 1: get to determine what is genuine and what is not.

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Speaker 1: We of course enjoy the right to keep them back

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01:41:15,240 --> 01:41:17,800
Speaker 1: arms in this country, and I appreciate that, But isn't

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01:41:17,840 --> 01:41:20,040
Speaker 1: it the motive that we need to be looking at

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01:41:20,040 --> 01:41:22,400
Speaker 1: since guns don't get off the ground and automatically go

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01:41:22,439 --> 01:41:24,760
Speaker 1: around start shooting people. Yeah, but they can be used

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01:41:24,760 --> 01:41:27,000
Speaker 1: by people with evil motives, right, Yes, so can a

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01:41:27,000 --> 01:41:31,799
Speaker 1: lot of other things, like bombs, for example, baseball bats,

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01:41:32,000 --> 01:41:35,800
Speaker 1: bass guitars. I know they're not as effective killing as

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01:41:35,840 --> 01:41:38,760
Speaker 1: anything else, but there are a whole bunch of mechanisms.

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Speaker 1: Like the folks that were busted out in Los Angeles,

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Speaker 1: what were they gonna use? Nope, not guns, bombs, iedes.

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Speaker 1: The Turtle Island Liberation Front describes an extreme extremist group

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01:41:51,360 --> 01:41:56,719
Speaker 1: motivated by pro Palestinian anti law enforcement, anti government ideology, notably,

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01:41:56,920 --> 01:41:59,840
Speaker 1: and by their own words, Marxists who want to bring

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01:42:00,040 --> 01:42:09,320
Speaker 1: down capitalism and filled with rage and hate, organizing the

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01:42:09,479 --> 01:42:12,280
Speaker 1: murders of a whole bunch of people at various events

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01:42:12,520 --> 01:42:14,400
Speaker 1: on New Year's Eve in and around the Greater Los

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01:42:14,400 --> 01:42:21,439
Speaker 1: Angeles area with bombs. So you see, getting rid of

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01:42:21,479 --> 01:42:23,439
Speaker 1: the guns ain't going to solve the problem of murders

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01:42:23,439 --> 01:42:27,040
Speaker 1: committed by organizations who wish to do you harm for

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Speaker 1: whatever political or twisted ideology they happen to have. So

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01:42:30,840 --> 01:42:32,799
Speaker 1: getting rid of guns is not going to solve the problem.

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01:42:32,840 --> 01:42:35,600
Speaker 1: And can I ask out loud again please, where in

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01:42:35,680 --> 01:42:38,840
Speaker 1: God's name were the Australian Police Department during all of

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01:42:38,880 --> 01:42:42,639
Speaker 1: this ten plus minute open fire season on the Jewish

1827
01:42:42,680 --> 01:42:46,880
Speaker 1: people in trying to enjoy Honikah. Yeah, you don't have

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01:42:46,880 --> 01:42:49,760
Speaker 1: any guns rights there basically in Australia, so you got

1829
01:42:49,760 --> 01:42:51,360
Speaker 1: to rely on the police department. Where in the hell

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01:42:51,400 --> 01:42:56,120
Speaker 1: were they? You had a thousand Jews gathering on the

1831
01:42:56,160 --> 01:42:59,000
Speaker 1: beach at Honukah in a country that has a lot

1832
01:42:59,040 --> 01:43:02,360
Speaker 1: of anti Semitic activity of recently, over the past year,

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01:43:02,439 --> 01:43:04,640
Speaker 1: two years, three years, a lot of people complained to

1834
01:43:04,680 --> 01:43:07,560
Speaker 1: the Australian government didn't do enough to stop anti Semitism.

1835
01:43:07,600 --> 01:43:10,040
Speaker 1: Oh sure, they're paying lip service to it now, But

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01:43:10,120 --> 01:43:12,679
Speaker 1: if you're a Jew in Australia and your government isn't

1837
01:43:12,680 --> 01:43:15,599
Speaker 1: saying a word about the anti Jewish sentiment, that's in

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01:43:15,600 --> 01:43:17,360
Speaker 1: the world. Wouldn't it be a nice thing to be

1839
01:43:17,360 --> 01:43:23,080
Speaker 1: able to defend yourself? Seven fifty six, Feel free to call.

1840
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Speaker 1: I got more to talk about between now and Daniel

1841
01:43:26,160 --> 01:43:27,720
Speaker 1: Davis deep dive at eight thirty. I hope you can

1842
01:43:27,720 --> 01:43:28,600
Speaker 1: stick around.

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Speaker 12: Today's tough headlines coming up.

1844
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Speaker 1: Six if you about par CD Talks Nations Brian Thomas

1845
01:43:53,720 --> 01:43:56,200
Speaker 1: wishing everyone a very happy Tuesday, inviting you to stick around.

1846
01:43:56,280 --> 01:43:58,640
Speaker 1: Pop in the hour. Who are gonna hear from or

1847
01:43:58,720 --> 01:44:01,320
Speaker 1: retired Lieutenant Colonel Daniel Davis get the deep dive on

1848
01:44:01,360 --> 01:44:04,200
Speaker 1: what's going on? Of course Russia Ukraine? Are we going

1849
01:44:04,240 --> 01:44:06,920
Speaker 1: to provide a defense agreement for Ukraine which is like

1850
01:44:06,960 --> 01:44:09,720
Speaker 1: an Article five NATO kind of thing, meaning we would

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01:44:09,760 --> 01:44:11,760
Speaker 1: come to the aid of Ukraine in the future after

1852
01:44:11,920 --> 01:44:15,559
Speaker 1: any settlement or any resolution of the war is entered

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01:44:15,560 --> 01:44:18,479
Speaker 1: into should Russia attack again. It's kind of like being

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01:44:18,520 --> 01:44:22,240
Speaker 1: part of NATO, although it's expressly states this new phase

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Speaker 1: of the negotiations that Ukraine will not be part of NATO.

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01:44:25,520 --> 01:44:27,679
Speaker 1: So I'm really interested in hearing what Lieutenant Colonel Daniel

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01:44:27,760 --> 01:44:30,679
Speaker 1: Davis has to say about that. Retired at the bottom

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Speaker 1: of the hour five one, three, seven, four, nine, fifty

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Speaker 1: five hundred, eight hundred and two three talk and thank

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Speaker 1: you Maureen. We were speaking about higher education with Dave

1861
01:44:36,800 --> 01:44:39,000
Speaker 1: one ms one of my favorite topics of late because yes,

1862
01:44:39,040 --> 01:44:42,280
Speaker 1: there are a lot of worthless degrees out there, lots

1863
01:44:42,800 --> 01:44:44,960
Speaker 1: so going to college, get a degree in something you

1864
01:44:45,040 --> 01:44:47,559
Speaker 1: enjoy doing. But unless there's a job opportunity waiting for

1865
01:44:47,560 --> 01:44:48,800
Speaker 1: you on the other side, then it was kind of

1866
01:44:48,800 --> 01:44:51,000
Speaker 1: a pointless gesture. Might have made you feel good about

1867
01:44:51,040 --> 01:44:54,160
Speaker 1: learning something about what you think is a neat thing

1868
01:44:54,160 --> 01:44:56,720
Speaker 1: to learn about, like art, but if you're not going

1869
01:44:56,760 --> 01:44:58,200
Speaker 1: to be employed, why would you go into debt to

1870
01:44:58,240 --> 01:45:00,479
Speaker 1: do that? So, you know, food for thought and continuing

1871
01:45:00,520 --> 01:45:04,679
Speaker 1: a theme anyway, she sent me this good story whether

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01:45:04,720 --> 01:45:07,160
Speaker 1: it's true or not, but it does sum up the

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01:45:07,200 --> 01:45:12,920
Speaker 1: reality of the value of work as compared to perhaps

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01:45:13,800 --> 01:45:17,719
Speaker 1: a college degree. Anyway. Originally posted under mister common Sense

1875
01:45:17,720 --> 01:45:19,400
Speaker 1: and thank you Mareen for Ford and Long. She said,

1876
01:45:19,400 --> 01:45:21,160
Speaker 1: I came across this last week and I thought of

1877
01:45:21,160 --> 01:45:23,240
Speaker 1: your program in this segment that you just did, so

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01:45:23,320 --> 01:45:26,680
Speaker 1: let me just have at it. The man in the

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01:45:26,720 --> 01:45:29,640
Speaker 1: three thousand dollars suit glanced in my hands before he

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01:45:29,680 --> 01:45:32,320
Speaker 1: even looked at my face. Maintenance is down the hall,

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01:45:32,360 --> 01:45:35,920
Speaker 1: he said, politely, air conditioning issue. I knew exactly what

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01:45:36,000 --> 01:45:39,799
Speaker 1: he saw. Knuckles scarred from decades of wrench work, hands

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01:45:39,800 --> 01:45:43,759
Speaker 1: thick from turning bolts in freezing truck stops, A permanent

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01:45:43,760 --> 01:45:46,479
Speaker 1: line of grease beneath my nails that even my best

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Speaker 1: scrubbing cant erase. I looked at his hands, smooth manicured,

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Speaker 1: topped off with a heavy gold watch. No, sir, I said,

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01:45:54,520 --> 01:45:56,800
Speaker 1: my voice a little too loud for the pristine high

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01:45:56,880 --> 01:46:01,040
Speaker 1: school library. I'm here for career day. I'm Jason's. He

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01:46:01,120 --> 01:46:03,559
Speaker 1: blinked and gave a stiff smile, but his eyes said

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01:46:03,600 --> 01:46:07,639
Speaker 1: what he didn't you really? My name is Mike Rowley.

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01:46:07,640 --> 01:46:09,599
Speaker 1: I'm fifty eight years old. I've been a long haul

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01:46:09,800 --> 01:46:12,920
Speaker 1: truck driver for thirty years. I'm a widower, veteran, and

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01:46:12,920 --> 01:46:15,599
Speaker 1: a dad who tries his best. My son, Jason, attends

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Speaker 1: this polished suburban school where everything smells like new textbooks

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01:46:20,240 --> 01:46:24,840
Speaker 1: and wealth. This was Sarah's school, my late wife. She

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01:46:25,000 --> 01:46:28,120
Speaker 1: taught here, loved here, lived here, and after she passed,

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01:46:28,160 --> 01:46:30,880
Speaker 1: the school created a scholarship in her name. So when

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01:46:30,960 --> 01:46:34,639
Speaker 1: Jason told his teacher, I was a logistics and supply

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01:46:34,960 --> 01:46:38,360
Speaker 1: chain specialist and should speak at career day. I felt

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01:46:38,400 --> 01:46:41,840
Speaker 1: like saying yes was a way of honoring her. I

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01:46:41,880 --> 01:46:43,960
Speaker 1: parked my old F one to fifty between a luxury

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01:46:44,040 --> 01:46:46,920
Speaker 1: SUV and a spotless German sedan, walked in wearing my

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01:46:46,960 --> 01:46:51,400
Speaker 1: best jeans, fresh flannel and boots. I'd shine twice. Inside

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01:46:51,439 --> 01:46:55,439
Speaker 1: the library, the lineup of presenters read like a magazine cover.

1905
01:46:55,720 --> 01:46:59,920
Speaker 1: Doctor Chen neurosurgeon open with a futuristic video on brain mapping.

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01:47:00,479 --> 01:47:03,679
Speaker 1: Mister Davies, the finance dad with a gold watch, followed

1907
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Speaker 1: with stocked charts and phrases like leveraging capital in Q

1908
01:47:07,439 --> 01:47:11,840
Speaker 1: four positioning. Jason sat in the back row, shoulders hunch,

1909
01:47:12,360 --> 01:47:15,960
Speaker 1: wishing he could disappear. Then the principal touched my arm,

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Speaker 1: mister Riley, you're next. I walked to the front of

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Speaker 1: the room with nothing but my own voice, no slides,

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Speaker 1: no videos, just the truth. Good morning, I began. My

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Speaker 1: name is Mike Riley. I'm not a doctor or an investor.

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Speaker 1: I didn't finish college. I'm a truck driver. Murmurs curious glances,

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Speaker 1: a few raised eyebrows. My son calls me a logistic expert,

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Speaker 1: which I guess means I drive a very big truck

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Speaker 1: a very long way, and I figure, I'm here to

1918
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Speaker 1: explain why that matters. I turned to doctor Chen. What

1919
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Speaker 1: you do saves lives, but the tools you use, every circuit,

1920
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Speaker 1: every wire, every plastic casing. These didn't appear out of

1921
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Speaker 1: thin air. Someone packed them in a crate. Someone loaded

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Speaker 1: that crate onto a truck, and someone drove it across

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Speaker 1: the country. Then nodded toward the finance Dad. And so

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Speaker 1: those numbers you showed, they represent real things, food, medicine, steels, supplies.

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Speaker 1: This country doesn't run on unlimited Wi Fi and spreadsheets.

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Speaker 1: It runs on wheels, on people willing to travel thousands

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Speaker 1: of miles. So shelves stay full and hospitals stay stocked.

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Speaker 1: And the room grew still. In March twenty twenty, I said,

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Speaker 1: when everything was shut down, you stayed home. You did puzzles,

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Speaker 1: baked bread, but drivers were told to keep going. It

1931
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Speaker 1: felt like I was the only person on the highway.

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Speaker 1: Some days. I delivered forty thousand pounds of toilet paper.

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Speaker 1: Once my dispatcher cried on the phone because her own

1934
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Speaker 1: mom couldn't find any. You can't zoom a bag of

1935
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Speaker 1: flour and you can't download hand soap. Students lean forward,

1936
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Speaker 1: Teachers nodded. Two winters ago, I was hauling insulin across Wyoming,

1937
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Speaker 1: A blizzard shut the interstate. I sat in that cab

1938
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Speaker 1: for three days, twenty below zero, listening to the hum

1939
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Speaker 1: of the refrigeration unit. Unit died, so did the medicine.

1940
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Speaker 1: I wasn't thinking about the cost. I was thinking about

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Speaker 1: the family waiting for it. I scanned the room. Jason

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Speaker 1: was sitting up straight now. A student in a future

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Speaker 1: CEO shirt raised his hand, sir, don't you regret not

1944
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Speaker 1: going to college? My dad says, jobs like yours mean

1945
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Speaker 1: people who didn't have other choices. And then the room froze,

1946
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Speaker 1: smiling gently the sun. When the lights go out, you

1947
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Speaker 1: call alignment, not a business professor. When the pipes burst,

1948
01:49:33,120 --> 01:49:35,599
Speaker 1: you don't read reach for a textbook, you call a plumber.

1949
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Speaker 1: And when you walk into a store expecting food on

1950
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Speaker 1: the shelves, you're relying on farmers, factory workers, warehouse crews,

1951
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Speaker 1: dispatchers and drivers like me. Those careers aren't fallbacks, they're foundations.

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Speaker 1: A voice spoke out from the back, quiet at first,

1953
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Speaker 1: my mom's a dispatcher. A skinny kid stood up, eyes shining.

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Speaker 1: She works nights, holidays. She's the one who finds drivers

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Speaker 1: when hospitals need supplies. People yell at her all the

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Speaker 1: time when packages are late, but she keeps going. She

1957
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Speaker 1: isn't less important than anyone else. He looked at the

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Speaker 1: CEO shirt. Kid, she's a hero, and so is he.

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Speaker 1: He pointed at me. The room fell silent, then applause,

1960
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Speaker 1: real heartfelt applause. Jason walked up and stood beside me.

1961
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Speaker 1: He didn't speak, he just put his arm around me,

1962
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Speaker 1: and that was enough. Later, on the drive home, he

1963
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Speaker 1: finally said, Dad, I had no idea what you've done

1964
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Speaker 1: out there. It's just a job, I said, no, it's

1965
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Speaker 1: so much more. And here's the truth. The country isn't

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Speaker 1: held up by titles or corner offices. It's held up

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Speaker 1: by calloused hands, tired feet, and people who show up

1968
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Speaker 1: in storms and shutdowns in the middle of the night

1969
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Speaker 1: when no one else can. They're not the backup plan,

1970
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Speaker 1: we're the backbone. So next time you ask a young

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Speaker 1: person what they want to be, don't you say where

1972
01:50:59,520 --> 01:51:02,680
Speaker 1: are you going going to college? Try asking what do

1973
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Speaker 1: you want to build? What do you want to keep running?

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Speaker 1: What will you help carry and if the kid says,

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Speaker 1: I want to weld, I want to fix engines, I

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01:51:13,760 --> 01:51:16,960
Speaker 1: want to deliver supplies. I want to drive trucks like

1977
01:51:17,040 --> 01:51:20,479
Speaker 1: my dad, look them in the eye and say, this

1978
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Speaker 1: country needs you. We're counting on you. Thank you, Maureen

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Speaker 1: for passing that along. It makes a profound point. Again,

1980
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Speaker 1: whether or not it's real or not, it's immaterial to

1981
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Speaker 1: the point it makes think long and hard. I just

1982
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Speaker 1: think of my listening audience, and you probably have children

1983
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Speaker 1: or grandchildren, maybe entering the college age and struggling over

1984
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Speaker 1: what they want to do. There's a wealth of opportunity

1985
01:51:45,760 --> 01:51:47,679
Speaker 1: out there in the trades. I hear it from people

1986
01:51:47,720 --> 01:51:50,599
Speaker 1: in the trades all the time. I expect my friend

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Speaker 1: Jeff to chime in right now over mark on tool

1988
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Speaker 1: machine tool operators, see and see operators. And I think

1989
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Speaker 1: of my friends at the plumbing program, and they have

1990
01:52:00,200 --> 01:52:02,800
Speaker 1: the apprentice program, and you can be a plumber, you

1991
01:52:02,800 --> 01:52:06,400
Speaker 1: can be an electrician. These are great careers that you

1992
01:52:06,439 --> 01:52:09,559
Speaker 1: can earn while you learn. You're not in debt. When

1993
01:52:09,600 --> 01:52:12,080
Speaker 1: you finish the program, you're ahead of the game with

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Speaker 1: money in your pocket and an opportunity for a career. Employment. Employment,

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Speaker 1: and career. And these folks that do these trades cannot

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Speaker 1: be replaced by artificial intelligence AI, as the guy pointed

1997
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Speaker 1: out in the little anecdote, is not going to fix

1998
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Speaker 1: your pipe in the middle of winter. Those people should

1999
01:52:35,600 --> 01:52:39,320
Speaker 1: be valued. We've discounted the need and the value of

2000
01:52:39,479 --> 01:52:42,400
Speaker 1: trades for so long, belittling them because now you got

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Speaker 1: to get a college education. Listen, man, I was caught

2002
01:52:44,600 --> 01:52:46,880
Speaker 1: up in that too, graduated from high school in eighty three.

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Speaker 1: That was the path that everybody took, though they did

2004
01:52:49,600 --> 01:52:52,680
Speaker 1: have a trade school Diamond Oaks, and I imagine those

2005
01:52:52,720 --> 01:52:56,000
Speaker 1: folks fared pretty damn well in their lives too. Food

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01:52:56,040 --> 01:52:58,679
Speaker 1: for thought. All it is appreciated. Five one three, seven

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Speaker 1: four nine fifty five hundred eight two three Talk to

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Speaker 1: eight fifteen right now, stick around Daniel Davis Deep dive

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Speaker 1: at the bottom of.

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Speaker 6: The hour fifty five KRC for more information.

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Speaker 1: Talk station eight nineteen fifty five KARRICD talk station five

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Speaker 1: three seven four nine fifty five hundred two three talk

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Speaker 1: Con five fifty on eight and t phone kind of

2014
01:53:20,720 --> 01:53:22,680
Speaker 1: was hoping who was lifting? I did mention Jeff and

2015
01:53:23,000 --> 01:53:27,200
Speaker 1: talking about the trades mark on tools. Jeff got back

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Speaker 1: with me, Jeff thanky, he said, I was hoping. He said,

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Speaker 1: you're correct. We desperately need more people to go into

2018
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Speaker 1: the skilled trades. And thanks for recognizing as always, You're

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Speaker 1: more than welcome, Jeff. It just seems like such a

2020
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Speaker 1: wonderful opportunity for so many young people. You know, really

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01:53:42,320 --> 01:53:48,880
Speaker 1: does anyhow, And you know, it's like marketing. We we've

2022
01:53:48,920 --> 01:53:51,920
Speaker 1: marketed college education is the end all be all. I mean,

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01:53:52,320 --> 01:53:53,960
Speaker 1: check with the people who got the degrees that aren't

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01:53:53,960 --> 01:53:56,760
Speaker 1: employed or are working as I don't know to belittle baristas,

2025
01:53:56,840 --> 01:53:58,799
Speaker 1: but whatever, you know, it seems to be the default

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01:53:58,800 --> 01:54:01,879
Speaker 1: thing to point to. You knows a lot of belittling

2027
01:54:01,920 --> 01:54:04,040
Speaker 1: over those types of jobs too. They were supposed to

2028
01:54:04,040 --> 01:54:07,760
Speaker 1: be startup jobs. Those jobs were not meant for career opportunities.

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01:54:08,120 --> 01:54:13,800
Speaker 1: Yeah whatever. Moving over though, this kind of freaked me out.

2030
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Speaker 1: And I will spring from when I was getting cancer

2031
01:54:16,120 --> 01:54:19,840
Speaker 1: treatments over to OHC. So I'm getting my bag of

2032
01:54:19,880 --> 01:54:21,680
Speaker 1: cancer treatment laying in the room with the rest of

2033
01:54:21,680 --> 01:54:26,840
Speaker 1: the cancer treatment folks, and you know, it's a depressing

2034
01:54:26,920 --> 01:54:31,160
Speaker 1: thing to have to go through. Thankfully, didn't have it

2035
01:54:31,280 --> 01:54:33,520
Speaker 1: nearly nearly as bad as others, and I always got

2036
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Speaker 1: to reflect on that when I was getting my cancer treatment.

2037
01:54:35,720 --> 01:54:36,840
Speaker 1: But every once in a while you got to use

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01:54:36,880 --> 01:54:39,560
Speaker 1: the restroom. So I wheel my little IV unit on

2039
01:54:39,600 --> 01:54:41,880
Speaker 1: the wheels over to the restroom, close the door, and

2040
01:54:41,920 --> 01:54:50,560
Speaker 1: there's that sign on the wall chemo patients please flush twice.

2041
01:54:50,760 --> 01:54:56,200
Speaker 1: And I always looked at that like that freaked me out. Now,

2042
01:54:56,200 --> 01:54:59,600
Speaker 1: I assume there's some reason, like splashing up or worrying

2043
01:54:59,640 --> 01:55:02,800
Speaker 1: about other people coming in after you that are going

2044
01:55:02,840 --> 01:55:06,360
Speaker 1: to be exposed to the chemotherapy. But where do the

2045
01:55:06,400 --> 01:55:10,440
Speaker 1: water go? And do sewards treatment plants get rid of

2046
01:55:10,520 --> 01:55:13,600
Speaker 1: chemo agents in drugs. That's a legitimate question. I still

2047
01:55:13,600 --> 01:55:15,080
Speaker 1: haven't found the answer out to that. If you know,

2048
01:55:15,120 --> 01:55:17,080
Speaker 1: if you work for a water district, I'd love to

2049
01:55:17,080 --> 01:55:20,240
Speaker 1: find out, because I got this article here, and yes

2050
01:55:20,320 --> 01:55:23,200
Speaker 1: it's a pro life group and they're worried about you know,

2051
01:55:23,600 --> 01:55:28,040
Speaker 1: it's a sensationalized argument, but it reveals a more profound

2052
01:55:28,040 --> 01:55:30,400
Speaker 1: concern that you know, at least I have over this

2053
01:55:32,720 --> 01:55:36,240
Speaker 1: name of the organization's Students for Life of America urging

2054
01:55:36,280 --> 01:55:40,760
Speaker 1: the EPA to add the abortion meta medication methapristone to

2055
01:55:40,800 --> 01:55:44,960
Speaker 1: a federal list of drinking water contaminants that public utilities

2056
01:55:44,960 --> 01:55:50,160
Speaker 1: are required to monitor add it and so they got

2057
01:55:50,200 --> 01:55:53,800
Speaker 1: you know, they make their argument, and I understand that

2058
01:55:54,200 --> 01:55:56,800
Speaker 1: what might that do if it was found in the

2059
01:55:56,920 --> 01:55:59,160
Speaker 1: water that we drink from our tap after it's already

2060
01:55:59,160 --> 01:56:04,560
Speaker 1: gone through water treatment. EPA Press Secretary Bridget Hirsch said,

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01:56:04,600 --> 01:56:07,640
Speaker 1: The Office of Water said confirm. The Office of Water

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01:56:08,200 --> 01:56:11,040
Speaker 1: said the agency takes the issue of pharmaceuticals in our

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Speaker 1: water system seriously and employs a rigorous science based approach

2064
01:56:14,120 --> 01:56:18,400
Speaker 1: to protect human health and the environment. Great fine statement saying,

2065
01:56:18,520 --> 01:56:22,360
Speaker 1: as always, EPA encourages all stakeholders invested in a clean,

2066
01:56:22,360 --> 01:56:25,160
Speaker 1: safe drinking water to review the proposal and submit comments.

2067
01:56:25,520 --> 01:56:30,960
Speaker 1: Fine request targets of process governed by the Safe Drinking

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01:56:31,080 --> 01:56:34,720
Speaker 1: Water Act, which requires the EPAH to periodically order public

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01:56:34,760 --> 01:56:39,160
Speaker 1: water systems to test for here's the operative word certain

2070
01:56:40,480 --> 01:56:43,520
Speaker 1: unregulated contaminants to help the agency decide whether future rules

2071
01:56:43,520 --> 01:56:48,720
Speaker 1: are warranted. The current monitoring cycle focuses largely on pfas

2072
01:56:48,720 --> 01:56:54,680
Speaker 1: and chemicals or chemicals, and carcinogenic chemicals and chemicals, and lithium.

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Speaker 1: According to the FDA, if pristine used with another drug

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01:57:00,400 --> 01:57:04,520
Speaker 1: well for clinical care early pregnancy laws so there are

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01:57:04,600 --> 01:57:07,160
Speaker 1: multiple uses for one of the two drugs that's used

2076
01:57:07,160 --> 01:57:13,120
Speaker 1: as an abortion instigator, but that aside, it is a

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01:57:13,200 --> 01:57:19,200
Speaker 1: growing phenomenon using this particular drug. Students for Life argue

2078
01:57:19,240 --> 01:57:21,280
Speaker 1: to multiple venues that the environmental law should play a

2079
01:57:21,320 --> 01:57:24,520
Speaker 1: larger role in regulating abortion pills. But see that's their avenue.

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01:57:24,520 --> 01:57:26,720
Speaker 1: They want to monitor for this because they don't like

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01:57:26,760 --> 01:57:29,280
Speaker 1: the underlying drug. But what about all the other categories

2082
01:57:29,280 --> 01:57:32,000
Speaker 1: of drug that may not be on this Safe Drinking

2083
01:57:32,080 --> 01:57:35,920
Speaker 1: Water Act list? And that's where the worry comes in.

2084
01:57:37,120 --> 01:57:40,600
Speaker 1: FEA previously rejected a a petition back in twenty twenty three.

2085
01:57:41,760 --> 01:57:45,360
Speaker 1: It was tied to this particular organization, writing that it

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01:57:45,600 --> 01:57:50,040
Speaker 1: offers only conjecture their concerns about whether or not this

2087
01:57:50,160 --> 01:57:55,280
Speaker 1: drug enters our drinking water systems, offers only conjecture about

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01:57:55,400 --> 01:57:59,440
Speaker 1: quote unknown harm the citizens and animals alike, and provides

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01:57:59,560 --> 01:58:02,320
Speaker 1: no evidence that bodily fluids from patients who have used

2090
01:58:02,360 --> 01:58:05,520
Speaker 1: myth for personal are harming the aquatic environment. So the

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01:58:05,680 --> 01:58:13,600
Speaker 1: absence of a study showing that these elements are dangerous

2092
01:58:13,680 --> 01:58:16,280
Speaker 1: or harmful to us if we drink them, a study

2093
01:58:16,280 --> 01:58:18,680
Speaker 1: apparently that hasn't been done, or I imagine this Students

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01:58:18,680 --> 01:58:21,200
Speaker 1: for Life would have presented a study saying this is

2095
01:58:21,280 --> 01:58:24,600
Speaker 1: dangerous to us. So because they're only guessing and they

2096
01:58:24,640 --> 01:58:26,600
Speaker 1: don't offer any evidence that it is harmful, then they're

2097
01:58:26,600 --> 01:58:28,480
Speaker 1: not going to bother going after and looking after it.

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01:58:28,800 --> 01:58:31,360
Speaker 1: Going back to my chemo in the water, are they

2099
01:58:31,400 --> 01:58:33,920
Speaker 1: looking for that? Is there a way of filtering that out?

2100
01:58:35,240 --> 01:58:38,680
Speaker 1: And the whole world is taking some kind of pharmaceutical

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01:58:38,680 --> 01:58:43,480
Speaker 1: another antibiotics. We have all these these psychological drugs that

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01:58:43,520 --> 01:58:48,040
Speaker 1: people are taking, depressants and ADHD medications. I mean one

2103
01:58:48,080 --> 01:58:50,720
Speaker 1: in four kids are all on these. That's all entering

2104
01:58:50,720 --> 01:58:53,200
Speaker 1: the water system. Is it being filtered out? Is this

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01:58:53,320 --> 01:58:56,680
Speaker 1: potentially a pathway to find out why our health is

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01:58:56,760 --> 01:58:59,280
Speaker 1: generally failing in this country. I don't know, but this

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01:58:59,360 --> 01:59:04,960
Speaker 1: kind of thing's scared. There's a living crap out of me. Yeah,

2108
01:59:05,000 --> 01:59:06,720
Speaker 1: let's get the CO two out of the air though. Okay,

2109
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Speaker 1: let's just do that first and then we'll worry about

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Speaker 1: all these other things that might propose a genuine, real

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Speaker 1: time risk to our health and we'll deal with that

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01:59:14,400 --> 01:59:17,640
Speaker 1: down the road once this pro life organization comes up

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Speaker 1: with a study. Hey, twenty five right now, Daniel Davis

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Speaker 1: deep Dive coming up next. I hope you can stick around.

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Speaker 6: Fifty five KRC.

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Speaker 12: What's the best kind of Christmas Music?

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Speaker 1: KRSC the talk station. Hey, twenty eight Here fifty five

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Speaker 1: KRC de Talk Station. It is Tuesday. Staying in the obvious.

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Speaker 1: Regular listeners know it is that time of week. We

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Speaker 1: get to talk to retire lie Kenned, Lieutenant Colonel Daniel

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Speaker 1: Davis and doing what he calls in his podcast, what

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Speaker 1: I call the alliterative podcast. It is the Daniel Davis

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Speaker 1: Deep Dive. Welcome back, my dear friend. It's always a

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Speaker 1: pleasure to have you on the fifty five KRS Morning Show.

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Speaker 12: I look forward to this more than my own shows.

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Speaker 1: I think, y you're so kind, Daniel. I enjoy the

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Speaker 1: back and forth. Although we haven't been able to solve

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Speaker 1: the problems in the world over the year or two

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Speaker 1: that we've been doing this, it is a thoroughly welcome

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Speaker 1: exchange of well real time and genuine information about what's

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Speaker 1: going on in the world. I see Donald Trump and

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna start with Ukraine and the efforts to negotiate

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Speaker 1: a peace deal. Between Ukraine and Russia. This, obviously you've

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Speaker 1: been talking about for a very long time, the United

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Speaker 1: States providing a security guarantee for Ukraine. I'll la Article

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Speaker 1: five of the NATO Defense Alliance Treaty. This requires NATO

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Speaker 1: country and much in the if they were a member

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Speaker 1: of NATO, it would go along with the security guarantee.

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Speaker 1: If one country gets attacked, we all come to the defense.

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Speaker 1: This is not Ukraine joining NATO but getting the benefits

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Speaker 1: of the Article five security agreement, which means, effectively, aren't

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Speaker 1: they getting the best benefit of being a NATO country

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Speaker 1: without formally calling them that.

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Speaker 12: Well, listen, Briana, I'm gonna put this in the category

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Speaker 12: of I'll believe it when I see it, right, because

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Speaker 12: I mean, we're not gonna President Trump has been emphatic

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Speaker 12: from the beginning of saying that the NATO is a

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Speaker 12: no go, that NATO was one of those strong causes

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Speaker 12: of this war in the first place because of the

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Speaker 12: threat that Russia felt. He said he understood that. So

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Speaker 12: the last thing I think that he's going to do

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Speaker 12: is to give any kind of a security guarantee that's

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Speaker 12: quasi NATO, whether you call it NATO or not. But

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Speaker 12: if it has anything like an actual Teethy article five,

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Speaker 12: I just can't see. I mean, I literally see no chance.

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Speaker 12: So I hear, I've seen those statements in report press reports,

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Speaker 12: but nobody has provided the details yet of what that

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Speaker 12: actually means, what it looks like. And I imagine when

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Speaker 12: you do, you'll see a whole lot of water being

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Speaker 12: poured on some of these guarantees, because I don't think

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Speaker 12: they're gonna be worth the paper they're written on if

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Speaker 12: they ever even see the light of day.

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Speaker 1: Okay, fair enough, And we'll wait to see what happens

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Speaker 1: with that, because that's the concern I have. That's effectively

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Speaker 1: that's our that's our for rate into World War three,

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Speaker 1: right there, much in the same way if they were remember.

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Speaker 12: Now, and plus Russia would never agree to it. If

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Speaker 12: you're looking for something that people are going to agree to,

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Speaker 12: they would never agree to that. So it's dead on a.

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Speaker 1: Rival, all right, fair enough?

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 1: The other thing I wanted to pivot over to along

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Speaker 1: the same lines, this art Wall Street Journal article from yesterday.

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Speaker 1: After a Generation of Peace, Europe tells it's people to

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Speaker 1: prepare for war. They are ramping up their concerns. All

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Speaker 1: the elected officials, folks of the European Union about well,

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Speaker 1: the Russians are coming over the hill. They're getting ready

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Speaker 1: to invade US. And Frederick Mertz to Germany the Chancellor.

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Speaker 1: If Ukraine falls, he won't stop putting, just like the

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Speaker 1: student plan wasn't enough. In nineteen thirty eight, referring to

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Speaker 1: Adolf Hitler's invasion of portion of Czechoslovakia, NATO Secretary General

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Speaker 1: Mark Ruddy said, conflict is at our door. We must

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Speaker 1: be prepared for the scale of war our grandparents and

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Speaker 1: great grandparents endured. I mean, they're talking World War three

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Speaker 1: level conflict here now. During our prior conversations, Daniel, you've

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Speaker 1: kind of suggested, and I've been tending to agree with you,

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Speaker 1: that Russia is not to invade Poland, which was one

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Speaker 1: of the countries they said was gonna be the next

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Speaker 1: Domino to follow or to fall. It's taken them so

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Speaker 1: long to accomplish what they've gotten in Ukraine so far.

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Speaker 1: If they do attack a NATO country, they have all

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Speaker 1: of the NATO countries under the Article five Security Agreement

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Speaker 1: coming up to defend whichever country is attacked first. It

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Speaker 1: doesn't sound like a recipe for success with Russia. I

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Speaker 1: don't know. That's why we've got you, Daniel Davis.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, and listen to all those things you just mentioned.

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Speaker 12: Add this morning you had the new head of MI

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Speaker 12: six say that Russia is the pacing threat and the

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Speaker 12: biggest concern that they have on an intelligence basis, and

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Speaker 12: then Air Vice Marshall for the UK said that, listen,

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Speaker 12: we have to be ready to second, I'm not making

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Speaker 12: this up, sacrifice our sons and daughters if necessary in

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Speaker 12: order to keep us safe from Russia. We're that kind

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Speaker 12: of an issue. So it's gaining momentum, all these threats

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Speaker 12: and warnings etc. That they're openly telling their people and

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Speaker 12: they have to be ready to sacrifice their sons and

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Speaker 12: daughters for this war that should never be fought. So

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Speaker 12: the issue is quite alarming and it's something that needs

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Speaker 12: to get cushed quickly. But look Russia has said, and

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Speaker 12: just in the past I guess seven or eight days,

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Speaker 12: Putin has said again mocked, he goes this idea, I

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Speaker 12: don't why would I even want to go into any

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Speaker 12: of your countries? We don't. And then he said, but

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Speaker 12: if you come to us and you fight us, we

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Speaker 12: will fight. We are ready today and we will fight

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Speaker 12: that war. We don't want to, but guaranteed that we will.

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Speaker 12: And when you look at their capability, and I'm talking

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Speaker 12: to you not just how many tanks, planes and troops

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Speaker 12: that people have. Those are important, but what is crucial,

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Speaker 12: absolutely vital in a war of potential war of attrition,

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Speaker 12: is to your defense industrial base and how many men

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Speaker 12: you have. And Russia dwarfs the entirety of NATO in

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Speaker 12: those categories, and of course they have all the combat

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Speaker 12: experience and we have almost none, just little inciliary by

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Speaker 12: watching Ukraine, but that's about but none of us actually

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Speaker 12: doing it. So we are not ready to fight a war.

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Speaker 12: And if people want to get one and start one,

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Speaker 12: we're not going to do well in this. Let me

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Speaker 12: just tell you right off the bat.

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Speaker 1: Well, then, what is the purpose of all this what

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Speaker 1: I will call dangerous rhetoric from the European Union elected officials?

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Speaker 1: Why are they ramping up all this talk?

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Speaker 12: It is insane, I'll just start right there. It is

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Speaker 12: insane because there is no reason whatsoever to have to

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Speaker 12: even think about fighting a war with Russia. There's no

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Speaker 12: reason why they would want to. There was a lot

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Speaker 12: of reason why they would want to go into the

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Speaker 12: Donbos area. Why they would want to go into party

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Speaker 12: of Ukraine. They've been signaling that for fifteen years prior

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Speaker 12: to this one. They had always signaled the opposite here,

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Speaker 12: So there's no reason that's important, first of all. But secondly,

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Speaker 12: what I think is going back to February twenty twenty two.

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Speaker 12: I'm sorry to April twenty twenty two, when we had

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Speaker 12: a chance to have a negotiated settlement and the UK

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Speaker 12: and the Biden administration both worked against it and sabotaged it.

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Speaker 12: Zielinski was this close to agreeing to it. They convinced

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Speaker 12: him to sabotage it, and then they said, no, let's

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Speaker 12: defeat them. So twenty twenty three they want to have

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Speaker 12: this big offensive to drive Russia out. It totally failed,

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Speaker 12: and ever since that time, Brian, they've been trying to

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Speaker 12: make up good for it and not be seen as

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Speaker 12: being weak that we are, and so they keep doubling

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Speaker 12: down on the failure. And now then this particular failure

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Speaker 12: would be the worst of all because you could literally

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Speaker 12: spawn a war between us, which all too easily could

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Speaker 12: go nuclear. It's terrible.

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Speaker 1: Well, that's exactly the way it sounded to me. And

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Speaker 1: so I was looking for you for some guidance on that.

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Speaker 1: So we both reached the same conclusion. And the article

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Speaker 1: points out over and over again they're literally going to

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Speaker 1: have to scramble to fortify their not only the soldiers

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Speaker 1: on the ground, they have very small armies. They're going

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Speaker 1: to maybe start talking about conscription and have in some countries,

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Speaker 1: and they're desperately in need of military hardware and supplies

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Speaker 1: if they want to wage a war. It seems logistically

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Speaker 1: they couldn't wage one if they had the will to

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Speaker 1: do it. On top of that, the Gallop survey from

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Speaker 1: the European Union says that only thirty percent of the

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Speaker 1: people will be even willing to take up arms to

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Speaker 1: defend their own countries. That is a sorry state of affairs.

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Speaker 12: Well, it is, yeah, And you know the reason why

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Speaker 12: Germany's having this big problem here there. Maritch is talking

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Speaker 12: about all this big coffee cocky stuff about wanting to

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Speaker 12: be the power, the main military power on the continent,

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Speaker 12: stuff using big, you know, illustrative language. A lot of

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Speaker 12: people in the europe are going, yeah, you go ahead

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Speaker 12: and do that. That's cool, But the problem is that

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Speaker 12: he can't make good on it. Because they're having a

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Speaker 12: problem economically to be able to create that. And then

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Speaker 12: nobody wants to sign up for this. So, as you

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Speaker 12: just pointed out, they're gonna have to have force conscription

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Speaker 12: or they're just not gonna get there because the people

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Speaker 12: don't see a need for this. They see the same

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Speaker 12: thing you do. They think, what in the world are

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Speaker 12: you talking about. I don't want to war with Russia.

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Speaker 12: They don't want to war with us. No, this is stupid,

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Speaker 12: don't do it. And I think that ultimately that's going

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Speaker 12: to be and I hope this comes to the political

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Speaker 12: downfall of all these governments in Europe that want war

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Speaker 12: and they're putting for this. Eventually that people are going

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Speaker 12: to say, you're stupid man, I don't want you govern

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Speaker 12: uhing and so they're going to fall out of the

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Speaker 12: next election. We just have to hope that happens before

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Speaker 12: they actually get people sucked into a war.

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Speaker 1: Well, you know, and you mentioned it, I mean the

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Speaker 1: undercurrent of you know, by getting more soldiers, however, they're

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Speaker 1: going to accomplish satur buying more war materials, spending more

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Speaker 1: than a percentage of their economy that translates into cuts, cuts,

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Speaker 1: and they're already over extended, bloated, impossible to sustain social

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Speaker 1: welfare safety in net. So if the European people, the

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Speaker 1: European Union people are subjected to a choice either we

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Speaker 1: build our military up and you cut social welfare, or

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Speaker 1: will continue with these outrageous rates, which parenthetically are unsustainable anyway,

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Speaker 1: and not build up our military, they probably go.

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Speaker 12: With the latter now, and that's I think why the

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Speaker 12: Air Vice Marshall today in the UK was trying to say, listen,

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Speaker 12: you have to be ready to sacrifice your sons and

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Speaker 12: daughters because otherwise they're coming for us, because you have

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Speaker 12: to create this fear that, oh my god, well maybe

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Speaker 12: we do have to make these sacrifices. I'm not remember,

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Speaker 12: but a couple of days ago UK was also one

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Speaker 12: of the UK leaders was saying, look, we have to

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Speaker 12: be ready to make a lot of sacrifices, you know,

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Speaker 12: in our economy, in our way of life, and maybe

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Speaker 12: even our lives, because that's how big the risk is

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Speaker 12: and it's real, et cetera. So it's scaring some people,

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Speaker 12: but I think most people are going I'm looking at

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Speaker 12: I just don't see it. I think there's something wrong

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Speaker 12: with you. And I hope that that holds sway.

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Speaker 1: Well, maybe that answers the question that we're struggling with

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Speaker 1: is why in the hell are they are they worried

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Speaker 1: about Vladimir Putin and raading Europe. If you use this

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Speaker 1: argument that we are under this existential threat from Russia,

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Speaker 1: we are going to have to cut maybe that's the

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Speaker 1: only Maybe that's the point. It will provide a mechanism

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Speaker 1: to justify their cuts to this bloated, out of control

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Speaker 1: social welfare system that so many people are on that

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Speaker 1: can't be sustained, right, I mean it will.

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Speaker 12: But you know, one of the other things it's irony

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Speaker 12: I think is falling is being consciously aware of a

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Speaker 12: lot of these European populations, is are going hang on,

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Speaker 12: hang on. You just marcked men wi Macron in particular,

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Speaker 12: you just mocked the Russians because they're so pathetic that

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Speaker 12: they've only taken one percent of the territory in the

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Speaker 12: last two full years of fighting. And then at the

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Speaker 12: same time you're telling me, oh my god, they're coming

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Speaker 12: to London and we have to be ready for that.

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Speaker 12: That doesn't make any sense at all. And yet those

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Speaker 12: contradictory messages are both being shouted by the European leaders.

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Speaker 1: Well at least you and I see through it. Daniel Davis,

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Speaker 1: Daniel Davis.

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Speaker 12: The day, A lot of people do.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I know the Daniel Davis Deep Dive. Find him

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Speaker 1: on wherever you get your podcasting and follow them throughout

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Speaker 1: the week, and always tune in here on the fifty

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Speaker 1: five CARSCEN Morning Shore every Tuesdays at eight thirty. I

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Speaker 1: enjoy it, man, look forward to it every week, sir,

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Speaker 1: and I'll look forward to you next week.

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Speaker 12: Always my pleasure. See you next week, Brian.

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Speaker 1: Take care of my friends. Eight thirty nine. Come up

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Speaker 1: to the forty years fifty five kr SE detalk station.

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Speaker 6: This is fifty five KARC and iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 1: And no pun intended on that maybe painful. Doctor Rashimi Tataparthi,

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Speaker 1: she is a gasher and turologists with gastro health here

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Speaker 1: to talk about the very delicate subject. But we've got

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Speaker 1: to talk about it considering the number of people who

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Speaker 1: struggle with it. Doctor Tata party hemorrhoids, I guess are

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Speaker 1: a real problem for a lot of folks. Welcome to

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Speaker 1: the fifty five CARSE Morning Show.

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Speaker 13: Thanks Rian, thanks for having me. My name is rosh

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Speaker 13: me Taty Party and I'm a gastrointrologist with the Gastro

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Speaker 13: Health Network in Cincinnati. You're absolutely right. A lot of

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Speaker 13: patient deals with hemorhoid symptoms, but they're embarrassed to talk

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Speaker 13: about it. It's a very common problem, and it's a

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Speaker 13: very treatable problem, so I hope people will reach out

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Speaker 13: and talk to us about it. Symptoms can include literally

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Speaker 13: pain in the rear end, pain in the buck it

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Speaker 13: changed see pitch swelling, and occasional bleeding.

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Speaker 4: The ball movements.

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Speaker 1: Well, we all have to have those, so I imagine

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Speaker 1: the problem is just an ongoing one unless you get treatment.

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Speaker 1: How do hemorrhoids develop? What is as I understand the statistic,

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Speaker 1: half of adults over the age of fifty deal with

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Speaker 1: hemorrhoids at some point, so clearly a very common, as

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Speaker 1: you treatable problems. How do they start and or develop

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Speaker 1: in the first place?

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Speaker 13: Doctor, Well, great question, Brian. Hemrots are extremely common. They

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Speaker 13: developed and women, especially after pregnancies, but a very common

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Speaker 13: causes constipation, pushing, straining with bowel movements. Sometimes jobs that

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Speaker 13: involve for long standing, prolonged you know, sitting or even

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Speaker 13: heavy lifting. You know, any of these factors can lead

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Speaker 13: to gradual build up of these hemorrhoids.

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Speaker 1: So I suppose it's the strain that we're putting on

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Speaker 1: our lower areas.

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Speaker 13: That's exactly right. These are extremely thin walled, delicate blood

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Speaker 13: vessels present on the inside of the anal canal. Pushing

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Speaker 13: straining prolong standing pregnancies can lead to excess engagement and enlargement,

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Speaker 13: which then causes symptoms of bleeding, itching, pain.

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Speaker 1: All right, and Guestor Health does have their drug therapy.

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Speaker 1: There's surgical, non surgical treatments. There are others, but let's

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Speaker 1: start with you mentioned the stool dietary changes. I would

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Speaker 1: imagine incorporating a higher level of fiber into one's diet

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Speaker 1: would be a strong recommendation.

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Speaker 13: Yes, that's exactly how we start at gastro Health. We

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Speaker 13: offer the full range of treatment. We start with dietary counseling,

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Speaker 13: lifestyle modification, topical therapies, and now we have exciting new

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Speaker 13: therapies that include minimally invasive non surgical treatment. The newest

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Speaker 13: treatment that we're offering is an IR guided embolization. It's

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Speaker 13: a non surgical, minimally treatment option. It's done by one

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Speaker 13: of our interventional radiologists, and this includes a painless way

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Speaker 13: to obliterate these puffy dilated blood vessels in the inside

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Speaker 13: of the anal canal. And it's image guided, so we

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Speaker 13: approach them under extraight and we put tiny coils to

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Speaker 13: obliterate these blood vessels on the inside of the anal canal,

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Speaker 13: so that you know, you get long lasting relief from bleeding, itching,

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Speaker 13: and pain. We also offer hemorrhoid binding and other treatments.

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Speaker 13: We tailer the treatment to the patient after the consultation.

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Speaker 1: Of course, Now in terms of the hemorrhoid embolization you

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Speaker 1: spoke of again, you said non surgical and you would

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Speaker 1: describe them minimally invasive procedure. I have to ask, first off,

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Speaker 1: is it painful? And second off, how quickly do do

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Speaker 1: patients normally achieve results from that particular procedure.

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Speaker 13: So it's actually pretty pain it's painless. Patients are sedated

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Speaker 13: and they also get a local anesthesia. It's the same

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Speaker 13: day procedure outpatient procedure. Most patients can actually go back

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Speaker 13: to work the same day or at least the next day,

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Speaker 13: resume normal activities. Definitely, it's a day or two and

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Speaker 13: not weeks like a typical surgical procedure would be okay.

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Speaker 1: Now, in terms of that drug therapy, I'm thinking the

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Speaker 1: vast majority of us would not like to have to

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Speaker 1: go through surgery if there's a less invasive procedure. So

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Speaker 1: you mentioned the hemorrhid embolization a nonsurgical procedure. Are there

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Speaker 1: drugs that can solve this or deal with this problem?

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Speaker 1: Because I think the world knows about preparation age, but

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Speaker 1: is there anything else down on the world that can

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Speaker 1: help you.

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Speaker 13: Know, Actually, drugs, unfortunately I'm not do not provide long

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Speaker 13: lasting relief because these are hemorrhoids that are excessively in gorge.

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Speaker 13: These these are swollen. So you know, drugs like topical

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Speaker 13: steroids which we typically use, can provide temporary relief in

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Speaker 13: reducing inflammation irritation, but you know, it's like putting a

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Speaker 13: band aid, it comes right back. So I think if

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Speaker 13: you're having persistent symptoms, you definitely should seek attention and

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Speaker 13: consider one of these newer treatments that can help you

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Speaker 13: get rid of it. The other thing, also I want

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Speaker 13: to make sure to mention is that because of the

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Speaker 13: rising incidence of colon canter among young adults. If you

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Speaker 13: do notice ructle breeding, make sure you get evaluated and

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Speaker 13: confirmed that it is indeed hemorrhoids and not something else.

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Speaker 1: That sounds like very sound advice. Now, in terms of

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Speaker 1: surgical treatment, what might that involve. I'm guessing, as you said,

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Speaker 1: you tailor whatever therapy to the individual. So someone comes

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Speaker 1: in there that would qualify. Maybe the non surgical hemorrhoid

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02:16:01,960 --> 02:16:04,840
Speaker 1: embolization procedure might not be recommended. The surgical option is

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Speaker 1: what does that involve? Doctor?

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Speaker 13: So you know, we do offer nonlurgical hemorrhoid banding if

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Speaker 13: the symptoms are predominantly prollapsed and swelling, highly effective nonsurgical treatment,

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02:16:17,200 --> 02:16:21,320
Speaker 13: and then hemorrhoid embolization is also extremely effective for painless

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Speaker 13: and painless for bleeding. But if some patients have hemorrhoids

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Speaker 13: that are really large or even external, then we would

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Speaker 13: refer them to a surgeon for hemorrhoid actomy. Most patients

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Speaker 13: would prefer to avoid that because it's extremely painful and

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Speaker 13: does involve several weeks from downtime too. So if you know,

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Speaker 13: if you are a candidate, then you would definitely choose

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Speaker 13: the non surgical options that we have to offer.

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Speaker 1: Doctor, Tata parthy. It sounds painful, just the way you

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Speaker 1: presist the name of the procedure, God Almighty. All right.

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Speaker 1: I think it's an important thing to ask doctor if,

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Speaker 1: assuming you're dealing with the pain and all the other

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Speaker 1: issues that are associated with this, the pain in the

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Speaker 1: butt that hemorrhoids happen to be if left untreated, are

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Speaker 1: there broader health implications for my listeners who are dealing

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Speaker 1: with this if they're like, I don't want to call

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Speaker 1: a hemorrhoid doctor. I'm being embarrassed, or well, I don't

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Speaker 1: want to do that. Bigger problems down the road doctor.

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Speaker 13: You know, great question, and this is exactly what many

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Speaker 13: patients ask me. The answer is very simple. If you're

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Speaker 13: dealing with symptoms now, it's just going to get worse

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Speaker 13: if you continue to ignore it, because anything that you

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02:17:25,160 --> 02:17:27,920
Speaker 13: use over the counter is usually just a temporary relief,

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Speaker 13: especially if you are constipated, you're pushing your straining. The

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02:17:33,040 --> 02:17:35,960
Speaker 13: hemorrhoids will gradually increase in size and just get worse

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02:17:35,959 --> 02:17:38,640
Speaker 13: with time. So it's better to address it now if

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02:17:38,680 --> 02:17:39,040
Speaker 13: you can.

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Speaker 1: It's not going to get any better, I guess. Although

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Speaker 1: you do recommend lifestyle changes and I suppose first order

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02:17:45,840 --> 02:17:48,240
Speaker 1: of business if you can solve the problem through the

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Speaker 1: lifestyle and dietary changes, that's the avenue I would imagine

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Speaker 1: most people want to go down. So, in addition to

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Speaker 1: incorporating more fiber into the diet, what else do you

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Speaker 1: recommend for folks out there who might be going hmm,

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02:17:59,360 --> 02:18:02,160
Speaker 1: what can I do before I see gastro health about

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02:18:02,160 --> 02:18:03,560
Speaker 1: the problem.

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Speaker 13: So the big thing I always tell my patients is

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Speaker 13: don't push downstream and you have bowel movement, make sure

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02:18:09,080 --> 02:18:12,920
Speaker 13: your tool is soft. Also, don't use social media on

2489
02:18:13,000 --> 02:18:17,039
Speaker 13: the toilet seed. You know, find a different spot the

2490
02:18:17,240 --> 02:18:20,000
Speaker 13: love When you sit on the toilet seed. Meddling through

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02:18:20,040 --> 02:18:23,600
Speaker 13: your phone the greatest pressure on the hemorrhoids, and these

2492
02:18:23,640 --> 02:18:24,520
Speaker 13: are going to get larger.

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry I left so loud about that. Doctor. I'm

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Speaker 1: not going to name him because he may be listening.

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Speaker 1: One of the lawyers that I used to work with

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Speaker 1: when I was a law student. He'll be in there

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Speaker 1: for about an hour every day, doctor, And that sounds

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02:18:38,400 --> 02:18:40,800
Speaker 1: like a bad idea. And this is before social media.

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Speaker 7: Oh yeah, that.

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Speaker 13: Is definitely a bad idea. If you're reading your newspaper

2501
02:18:45,480 --> 02:18:48,240
Speaker 13: or going through your social media on the toilet seed

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02:18:48,280 --> 02:18:51,760
Speaker 13: find a different spot because that's a setup for hemorrhoids.

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Speaker 1: Okay, now is there any are there any exercises people

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02:18:55,320 --> 02:18:58,199
Speaker 1: could do or is this just diet and avoiding these

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02:18:58,240 --> 02:19:00,800
Speaker 1: long sessions on the toilet and have training. Is there

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02:19:00,840 --> 02:19:02,520
Speaker 1: something people can do by way of exercise?

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Speaker 13: I think you know, the important thing is try to

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02:19:06,800 --> 02:19:10,760
Speaker 13: avoid sitting or standing too long because that causes fasis.

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02:19:10,959 --> 02:19:14,000
Speaker 13: You know, becauses those very close blood vessels to build

2510
02:19:14,080 --> 02:19:17,519
Speaker 13: up and bulge. More So, just movement, a regular exercise

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02:19:17,680 --> 02:19:18,560
Speaker 13: is just good enough.

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02:19:19,120 --> 02:19:22,000
Speaker 1: Fair enough. Now, it looks like you have several locations

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Speaker 1: for gastro Health the website gastrohealth dot com. That's easy,

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Speaker 1: so schedule appointment by just going to gastrohealth dot com.

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Speaker 1: If people are out there struggling and they finally have

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02:19:31,600 --> 02:19:34,680
Speaker 1: a solution in front of them, yes, absolutely.

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Speaker 13: And also the poll number is five one three seven,

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02:19:37,480 --> 02:19:40,840
Speaker 13: five one six, six sixty seven. You can call us

2519
02:19:40,879 --> 02:19:43,680
Speaker 13: make an appointment. You can make an appointment online. We

2520
02:19:43,720 --> 02:19:49,959
Speaker 13: have multiple locations across the city. The greatest Antiniati hemorhoid

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02:19:50,000 --> 02:19:53,840
Speaker 13: embolization center is in the Norwood area. But it's highly

2522
02:19:53,840 --> 02:19:56,959
Speaker 13: effective and we have great treatment options, so don't be

2523
02:19:57,000 --> 02:20:00,800
Speaker 13: embarrassed if you have hemorrhoids. Come on in very confidential

2524
02:20:00,800 --> 02:20:03,920
Speaker 13: and comfortable consultation to see what treatment choice would be

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02:20:04,000 --> 02:20:04,360
Speaker 13: best for.

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02:20:04,320 --> 02:20:09,039
Speaker 1: You and apparently proven success from gastro Health gastrohealth dot com,

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Speaker 1: Doctor pretty Bardisi, it's been a Tataparthy. It's been pleasure

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Speaker 1: talking with you today about this delicate subject. But obviously

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Speaker 1: a lot of folks are struggling with us, so I'm

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02:20:17,800 --> 02:20:19,800
Speaker 1: glad we're able to have the conversation and give people

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Speaker 1: some health solutions for this at gastrohealth dot com. Have

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02:20:25,320 --> 02:20:27,959
Speaker 1: a wonderful day, doctor, Thank you for passing along the information.

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Speaker 13: Absolutely, Hey, thank you so much for having me today, Brian,

2534
02:20:31,560 --> 02:20:34,119
Speaker 13: have a fantastic day and hopefully it's warming up.

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Speaker 5: Take care hopefully.

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Speaker 1: Yes, thank you very much,