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Speaker 2: Bengals are at the Packers Sunday four twenty five. You'll
Speaker 2: here to hear Home of the Best Bengals coverage seven
Speaker 2: hundred WW with a new Joe and a new toe
Speaker 2: with the helm Joe Flacco debuting with four or five
Speaker 2: days of prep. Bengals lose three in a row. Can
Speaker 2: they snap the streak and give the ball to a
Speaker 2: guy who has now played and beaten? By the way,
Speaker 2: if the Bengals can pull this miracle off, we'll have
Speaker 2: beaten the Green Bay Packers twice in a four week span.
Speaker 2: It's like almost like he's a quarterback of a NFC
Speaker 2: North team or something. It's like the quarterback of the
Speaker 2: Chicago Bears. Dan Horde, of course, voice of the Bengals,
Speaker 2: jumps on the show this morning every Friday morning to
Speaker 2: chop it up.
Speaker 3: Danny, welcome, How are.
Speaker 4: You, Sonny? I'm great.
Speaker 2: How are you doing well? I'm doing well. So he
Speaker 2: got Joe with a good toe. And when you heard
Speaker 2: the news, because we all heard the news as the
Speaker 2: voice of the Bengals, when you heard either the unconfirmed
Speaker 2: rumor or the announcement that Joe Flacco was signed He's
Speaker 2: coming to Cincinnati.
Speaker 3: That was your immediate gut reaction immediately when you heard that.
Speaker 4: I was stunned.
Speaker 5: I was stunned by the person, not the fact that
Speaker 5: they made a trade, because we have heard those rumors
Speaker 5: for a couple of weeks, and the names that had
Speaker 5: been bandied about most frequently were Russell Wilson and Jamis Winston.
Speaker 4: Neither one of those guys got me too excited.
Speaker 5: I was a little bit interested when I heard Andy
Speaker 5: Dalton might be a possibility that one obviously could have
Speaker 5: made some sense. But I did not expect Joe plackom.
Speaker 5: But they felt they had to do something, and I'm
Speaker 5: excited to see how it looks.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we shall see on Sunday.
Speaker 2: Now, he's only had what four or five days of
Speaker 2: work put in, but you know, he's experienced quarterback. He's
Speaker 2: done this before, so you know, veteran quarterback coming in
Speaker 2: that doesn't concern me all that much. And maybe a
Speaker 2: basic game plan for him because he can't go a
Speaker 2: full playbook with Joe, Maybe that's maybe less is more here, huh.
Speaker 5: I think the fact that he's faced the Packers and
Speaker 5: faced them recently.
Speaker 4: Is really helpful. He knows what to expect from the
Speaker 4: Green Bay defense. That takes some of.
Speaker 5: That off the plate in terms of trying to get
Speaker 5: up to speed quickly, so he can really concentrate on
Speaker 5: the play calls.
Speaker 4: And that kind of stuff with the Bengals.
Speaker 5: And yeah, I think you're right, they've got to cut
Speaker 5: down in the playbook a little bit. But the dude's
Speaker 5: been playing for eighteen years. He's stepped in under similar
Speaker 5: circumstances before. A couple of years ago with Cleveland, he
Speaker 5: did have more practices, but he had not been with
Speaker 5: the team in that year. He hadn't even been playing.
Speaker 5: So I think if anybody can do this in a
Speaker 5: short span of time, it's somebody who has two hundred
Speaker 5: regular season NFL starts under his belt and eighteen playoff
Speaker 5: games and a Super Bowl win.
Speaker 3: All right.
Speaker 2: So the concern then, of course the most obviously, And
Speaker 2: to me, there's a lot of nuances with the game,
Speaker 2: and I'm curious to hear your take on all that.
Speaker 2: To me, does this begin an end to a large
Speaker 2: degree with what happens with the offensive line? I mean,
Speaker 2: Bengals whole lot of what seventy five pressures, eleven sacks
Speaker 2: and five games. Their highest graded pass blocker, Dylan Fairchild,
Speaker 2: will be out. And we're not really good at at
Speaker 2: scheming for the run either, as they are on pass protection.
Speaker 2: So you've got Orlando Brown who's not playing the highest
Speaker 2: graded run blocker and not I think I think I
Speaker 2: saw someone Jamar Chase says a better blocking grade. Nonetheless,
Speaker 2: is that for you? Is that the concern is, like, hey,
Speaker 2: if the offensive line can at least be paying we
Speaker 2: saw fly. I didn't think it was as bad as
Speaker 2: advertising Detroit.
Speaker 4: There was some.
Speaker 2: It was just Browning couldn't find anyone open. It was
Speaker 2: it was like a skulled dog or something.
Speaker 3: I don't know what.
Speaker 2: And Zach Taylor, I think admitted as such as like,
Speaker 2: it's more mental. He's just out of sorts. We've got
Speaker 2: to get somebody else in here. If they can do
Speaker 2: an adequate job in blocking, give it Joe Flacco time
Speaker 2: he can get the ball down field. And you've got
Speaker 2: Jamar and you've got t in maybe different game. Does
Speaker 2: it all come down to that?
Speaker 4: Well, offensive line is a major factor regardless of who's
Speaker 4: back there.
Speaker 3: And I do think the stacks.
Speaker 5: While we tend to assign them to the offensive line,
Speaker 5: it's a quarterback stat as well. Tom Brady was less
Speaker 5: mobile than Joe Flacco is and he didn't sacked very
Speaker 5: often because he got rid of the ball. Joe Flacco
Speaker 5: is going to get rid of the ball. So a
Speaker 5: few weeks ago when Cleveland faced Green Bay, the Browns
Speaker 5: have had major issues on their offensive line as well
Speaker 5: this year, he only got sacked twice. Why because he
Speaker 5: got rid of the ball. So that's getting it out quickly,
Speaker 5: that's throwing it to your checkdown quickly. That's throwing it
Speaker 5: out of bounds from time to time to avoid a sack. So, yes,
Speaker 5: the offensive line had to continue to get better, and
Speaker 5: I did think there was some improvement against Detroit last week.
Speaker 5: But I also think that the sacks at least will
Speaker 5: probably go down because Joe Flacco simply is not going
Speaker 5: to take them.
Speaker 2: At the same time, he was benched because of a
Speaker 2: lack of mobility behind a poor offensive line arguably.
Speaker 4: Really yeah, not true.
Speaker 5: No, he was benched because the Cleveland Browns are rebuilding
Speaker 5: and they drafted two quarterbacks this year and they wanted
Speaker 5: to start playing one of the rookies. So I'm not
Speaker 5: saying that Joe is playing all that effectively. They had
Speaker 5: a great record in Cleveland. He probably would have had
Speaker 5: a few more starts, but it wasn't because of his mobility.
Speaker 5: It's because the Cleveland Browns are in total rebuild mode
Speaker 5: and they've got Dylan Gabriel and they want to see
Speaker 5: what they've got.
Speaker 2: And you think it's Flacco would still be the quarterback
Speaker 2: if the Bengals hadn't come calling. I mean, he got
Speaker 2: the reason they put Dylan Gabriel edge. Yeah, I'm saying
Speaker 2: is they put Dylan. They put Dylan Gabriel in for
Speaker 2: real because it was it Dylan Gabriel's time, or just
Speaker 2: Flacco is inefficient.
Speaker 4: Well, a little bit of both.
Speaker 5: But you began slowly by saying he was benched because
Speaker 5: of his mobility.
Speaker 4: That's not the case.
Speaker 5: It was a combination of he wasn't playing very well
Speaker 5: and they wanted to go with their rookie.
Speaker 4: So it wasn't mobility.
Speaker 5: Okay, it was fair fact that they're turning to their rookie,
Speaker 5: Dylan Gabriel.
Speaker 2: Flacco's all right, So we talked about the line issues
Speaker 2: with them, The concern obviously is going to be Micah
Speaker 2: Parsons and Rashan Gary. That is arguably that one of
Speaker 2: the toughest to pass rushers, if not the best in
Speaker 2: the NFL. They're going to come fast, They're going to
Speaker 2: come fears. I'm sure they're champion at the bit to
Speaker 2: come up the Bengals. How do you scheme against those two?
Speaker 5: Well, you know you're going to have to give extra
Speaker 5: protection on Micah Parsons side, which is why Gary was
Speaker 5: the happiest person in the world when Cleveland swung that trade.
Speaker 5: You know, teams used to devote extra attention to blocking him.
Speaker 5: Now it has to be devoted toward, you know, protecting
Speaker 5: a quarterback against Michael Parsons. That allows for Sean Gary
Speaker 5: to eat. So it's a major challenge. The Bengals faced
Speaker 5: Michael Parsons last year when he was with Dallas, didn't
Speaker 5: have a sack, didn't have a tackle. Bengals won the
Speaker 5: game largely matched up in that game against the Marius men,
Speaker 5: So a lot of this is going to fall on
Speaker 5: a marius Now. Looking at the Packers so far this year,
Speaker 5: they've been moving Michael Parsons around quite a bit, so
Speaker 5: I'm sure that there will be snaps where it's up
Speaker 5: to Orlando Brown Junior to try to keep them away
Speaker 5: from Joe Placo. It's a major concern, There's no doubt
Speaker 5: about that. That's why a lot of people think the
Speaker 5: Green Bay is one of, you know, the five or
Speaker 5: six top candidates to win the Super Bowl.
Speaker 2: Defense, of course, has struggled in a few areas. In
Speaker 2: number of areas up against the Packers. How does that
Speaker 2: match up play out your mind?
Speaker 5: I think they've got to stop the run first and foremost.
Speaker 5: You know, the Packers traded last year for Josh Jacobs
Speaker 5: and he had an awesome first year in a Green
Speaker 5: Bay uniform. That's where their offense begins. Jordan loves a
Speaker 5: really good quarterback as well, but to me, it begins
Speaker 5: with Jacobs. He's a beast, two hundred and twenty three
Speaker 5: pound guy, doesn't go down easily. The Bengals run defense
Speaker 5: was pretty good last week, you know, considering how good
Speaker 5: the Lions are in the running game. They forced five punts.
Speaker 5: No team has forced Detroit to punt more this year.
Speaker 5: They got one takeaway. They need some help from their offense.
Speaker 5: The offense has to stop giving the opponent short fields.
Speaker 5: The offense has to stop having so many three and outs.
Speaker 5: That keeps the defense out there forever. I think if
Speaker 5: the offense were more efficient, we'd probably be saying, huh,
Speaker 5: the defense is starting to look a little bit better.
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, we always talk about it. It's the balance.
Speaker 2: It's complimentary football. You can only overcome so much with
Speaker 2: a good offense and a defense, and we saw that narrow.
Speaker 2: Let's face it, Joe Burrow covered up a lot of
Speaker 2: mistakes with this team. And there's a hell of a
Speaker 2: gap between Joe Burrow and Browning and Flacco for that matter,
Speaker 2: at least this version the forty year old Joe Flacco
Speaker 2: at this point too. You keep him upright and allow
Speaker 2: them to operate and give them time. I like our
Speaker 2: chances with t Higgins and Jamar Chase out there. I
Speaker 2: don't suspect this is going to be a shootout, But
Speaker 2: at the same time, if you make it competitive, I
Speaker 2: think that buys you a little bit more time for
Speaker 2: Zach Tanner and a company to figure things out.
Speaker 5: I think that's true, and I think I'm also looking
Speaker 5: at the next four weeks. So if Flacco looks decent
Speaker 5: this week, and even if the Bengals lose to Green Bay,
Speaker 5: which is obviously a strong possibility a two touchdown underdog.
Speaker 5: After that, you've got three straight home games Pittsburgh on
Speaker 5: a Thursday night. Dealers have looked good so far, but
Speaker 5: Thursday night home games are a big advantage. Then you've
Speaker 5: got the Jets. Only when this team left, then you've
Speaker 5: got the Bears. You know, the Bears have been better,
Speaker 5: but I don't think anybody thinks they're great yet.
Speaker 4: So if you lose this week.
Speaker 5: And managed to win three straight home games against the
Speaker 5: teams I just mentioned five and four, you've got Flaco.
Speaker 5: You're feeling better about your offense. You know, you're right
Speaker 5: back in the thick of things in an AFC in
Speaker 5: general and an AFC North in particular. That team's really
Speaker 5: unsettled right now. So I'm kind of looking at this
Speaker 5: as a four week deal and see if Flacco can
Speaker 5: stabilize things during this stretch.
Speaker 2: Yeah, nine wins feels like that right around that number,
Speaker 2: doesn't it like you could you.
Speaker 5: Could be Yeah, I at this point, I'm really thinking
Speaker 5: I'd be surprised if anybody in the division wins. Can now,
Speaker 5: maybe the Steelers are going to prove us wrong. They
Speaker 5: are three and one. Uh, they've got Aaron Rodgers. Maybe
Speaker 5: the going to turn out to be better than we
Speaker 5: all thought. I don't know, but I'm not sold yet.
Speaker 5: And obviously Baltimore at one in four with a ton
Speaker 5: of injuries including Lamar, who knows how many games they're
Speaker 5: ultimately going to win. I don't think anybody is too
Speaker 5: concerned about Cleveland, So yeah, I'm with you. I think
Speaker 5: nine wins, who knows, maybe eight might do it. There
Speaker 5: have been years where, you know, Division champions have been
Speaker 5: a game under five hundred. That would not be the
Speaker 5: first time that ever happened.
Speaker 2: Now, Who's who the hell saw the Ravens collapse happen,
Speaker 2: even outside of the injury to QB one. I mean,
Speaker 2: that wasn't like they're playing great all that great football.
Speaker 2: That's That's probably the biggest surprise in the AFC is
Speaker 2: just how bad Baltimore went.
Speaker 5: Baltimore this year is Cincinnati early last year. I think
Speaker 5: they've given up thirty eight or more points in every
Speaker 5: game but one. So, you know, the Lamar injuries last
Speaker 5: week was obviously a huge factor, but their defense has
Speaker 5: just been atrocious and nobody saw that coming.
Speaker 3: Extent.
Speaker 2: Now the whole league seems up for grabs with the
Speaker 2: Eagles getting beat by the Giants. I mean, the Giants
Speaker 2: look like a freaking deep playoff team today. You know,
Speaker 2: now tomorrow, next week maybe a different story. But the
Speaker 2: entire league, that's the greatness of it though, as you know,
Speaker 2: this is a parody, right is You know, one team
Speaker 2: is ranked number one one week and then they're down
Speaker 2: to five.
Speaker 3: After a close loss. But that's how close is in
Speaker 3: the NFL.
Speaker 2: You've really got a chance here and you can't write
Speaker 2: the Bengals off yet. We'll see what Joe Flacco can do,
Speaker 2: and if you can get to nine wins, you're right there,
Speaker 2: I think. And I don't think he's signed Joe Flacco
Speaker 2: unless you think that Joe Burrow is going to come
Speaker 2: back this season. I think, do you think that's It's like, well,
Speaker 2: we hope to get him back. It feels like when
Speaker 2: they made the move, like, yeah, we got a strong
Speaker 2: indication he'll be back in December.
Speaker 5: I don't know about that, but I do know that
Speaker 5: Joe Burrow is determined to be back. I don't think
Speaker 5: there's any real medical determination yet, but you're hopeful that
Speaker 5: he'll be back, and he's determined to be back. Joe
Speaker 5: Burrow is held on coming back and playing in December
Speaker 5: if it matters. So I do agree that the front
Speaker 5: office is trying to do everything they can to keep
Speaker 5: this team in contention in case he can come back,
Speaker 5: with the hope that he can can come back, knowing
Speaker 5: that he is determined to come back. So Windows, you know,
Speaker 5: you talked about the NFL in general, but really in
Speaker 5: the AFC in particular, with the Chiefs under five hundred,
Speaker 5: the Texans two time defending champ in their division under
Speaker 5: five hundred, Baltimore at one in four, you know, the
Speaker 5: Colts are four and one. Are we buying the Colts
Speaker 5: as the best team in the AFC?
Speaker 6: You know I'm not.
Speaker 5: I mean kudos too, and you know Danny Dimes for
Speaker 5: what they've done so far, But I still don't really
Speaker 5: think of Indianapolis as a Super Bowl contender. So the
Speaker 5: AFC is wide open. If he can just get into
Speaker 5: the playoffs, right and Burrow does come back, you got
Speaker 5: a shot.
Speaker 3: Here's the thing.
Speaker 2: Keep forty year old Joe Flacco all live for six weeks,
Speaker 2: roughly six weeks.
Speaker 3: That's that's the key.
Speaker 4: And he has to play well.
Speaker 5: Of course, protecting him is going to be a key
Speaker 5: to him playing well and hopefully getting a little bit
Speaker 5: out of the running game as well. But if he
Speaker 5: plays well like he did two years ago with Cleveland
Speaker 5: when he came you know, off the couch and one
Speaker 5: comeback Player of the Year award for a five week stretch,
Speaker 5: he threw for three hundred or more yards and four
Speaker 5: straight games, the only quarterback in Cleveland Browns he history
Speaker 5: to ever do that after not being with the team
Speaker 5: basically all year. He started playing at the you know,
Speaker 5: the end of November. If he can do.
Speaker 4: Anything remotely close to that, the Bengals have a shot.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: And I say that because you know, the the aforementioned
Speaker 2: leaders CFC North, the Pittsburgh Steelers that looked like the
Speaker 2: darling of the division right now, that could change tomorrow.
Speaker 2: You also have a fourty year old quarterback there too,
Speaker 2: and we know that it's awfully tough playing this man's
Speaker 2: game as a young man. As an old man entirely
Speaker 2: different story, and certainly his career has been plagued by injuries.
Speaker 2: As you get older, that does happen. You hope for
Speaker 2: that against the division opponent. But you know, you look
Speaker 2: at it and go, it's not like that they're doing
Speaker 2: a great job of protecting him in Pittsburgh.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's pretty amusing that with forty year old Joe Flacco,
Speaker 5: the Bengals don't have the oldest quarterback.
Speaker 3: In the Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 4: Rodgers is actually older than he is.
Speaker 2: How about this, It's like Joe comes back, something happens
Speaker 2: to Aaron Rodgers and Joe Flacco in December goes to
Speaker 2: the Steelers, and now he's played for every team of
Speaker 2: the division.
Speaker 4: Well, yeah, what's happening.
Speaker 5: But nobody saw the possibility, at least of Joe Flacco
Speaker 5: beating Green Bay twice in a three week span with
Speaker 5: two different teams. That's never happened in NFL history. Apparently
Speaker 5: Jack Kemp back in the day beat the same team
Speaker 5: starting for two different teams during the course of the season.
Speaker 5: But it didn't happen in such a short span.
Speaker 3: That's incredible.
Speaker 5: It would be incredible if Placo and the Bengals pull
Speaker 5: it off.
Speaker 2: Well, it's going to give us a reason to listen,
Speaker 2: that's for sure. Before right, Darren Wright, I'm actually excited.
Speaker 2: I was like, God, what am I going to do
Speaker 2: on Sunday, and I was like, I got to get
Speaker 2: the popcorn and watch this game to see what happens
Speaker 2: with Joe Flacco. Real quick here, Dan, before you go
Speaker 2: before the Bengals game. Of course tomorrow, you're gonna call,
Speaker 2: hopefully the fifth straight win for the uc Bearcat's got
Speaker 2: UCF and town End talk about quarterback controversies.
Speaker 5: Yeah, not for controversy reasons, but for injury reasons. Yes,
Speaker 5: they've had three starting quarterbacks this year that have been
Speaker 5: injured at various points. The guy that started last week
Speaker 5: had his arm in as sling in the second half
Speaker 5: they list and is questionable. I would be surprised if
Speaker 5: he plays. The person that finished the game for UCF
Speaker 5: last week started their season opener, hurts back in that
Speaker 5: game on a targeting penalty, but he did come back
Speaker 5: and play last week. I think he's healthy. One of
Speaker 5: the three guys that has started appears to be healthy,
Speaker 5: so he'll be the guy that starts after that.
Speaker 4: I have no idea what they would do if you
Speaker 4: get hurt.
Speaker 2: It was so fun watching last week's game, and you
Speaker 2: is there anything cooler than the student section rushing the
Speaker 2: field after win. There's nothing cooler.
Speaker 3: In college sports.
Speaker 4: I'm a big fan of the field storming.
Speaker 5: You know, it causes your school to be fined, typically
Speaker 5: because leagues try to prevent that from happening for safety reasons,
Speaker 5: but schools typically happily pay that fine, thinking, you know,
Speaker 5: that means really good things for our team if our
Speaker 5: fans want to do that, So we'll cough up the
Speaker 5: dough and hope we have to do it again.
Speaker 2: Now, Like Iowa State didn't fight in this one because
Speaker 2: for a minute was like, man, they're gonna blow these
Speaker 2: guys out, and they came back in thirty to thirty.
Speaker 2: The final you see rises number twenty six in the country.
Speaker 2: Should they been higher?
Speaker 4: You know, honestly, I don't really care.
Speaker 5: I think if they win this week, they'll pop into
Speaker 5: the top twenty five. If they win their next two,
Speaker 5: they would definitely pop into the top twenty five. And
Speaker 5: next week's game is a road game against Oklahoma State,
Speaker 5: a team that's already fired its coach, so you know,
Speaker 5: there's a really good opportunity to win two more in
Speaker 5: a row with tomorrow's game being at home, and if
Speaker 5: that happens, they would definitely be a top twenty five team.
Speaker 2: Now, they are fun to watch. They're absolutely fun to watch.
Speaker 2: And you know, you talk about Brendan Sooresby and how
Speaker 2: fun that is, but I mean, let's face that defense
Speaker 2: is getting after what back their quarterback. I think what
Speaker 2: three or four sacks in that game last Saturday, and
Speaker 2: Soresby's jersey's completely clean, and you give them time, give that.
Speaker 2: It really is an exciting product. And I'm glad people
Speaker 2: are shown up at Nipper to watch the Bearcats.
Speaker 4: Me too.
Speaker 5: And I'm glad you mentioned the offensive line because we
Speaker 5: have been very critical of the Bengals offensive line in
Speaker 5: recent years, and deservedly though they have not performed as
Speaker 5: well as they've needed to perform. But you see, on
Speaker 5: the other hand, their offensive line has been amazing. They've
Speaker 5: given up one sack, tied for first in the country,
Speaker 5: and one of the teams that they're tied with his Navy,
Speaker 5: a team that never passes, so that shouldn't count. They're
Speaker 5: running backs, they're three or four yards downfield before they
Speaker 5: get touched, yeah, on many of their runs. So this
Speaker 5: offensive line has just been tremendous so far.
Speaker 2: Issue a lot of arrows directed rightly so at Sadderfield
Speaker 2: and that looks he's got them playing at a top
Speaker 2: level right now, and it's fun to watch Dan Hord
Speaker 2: with a call tomorrow from Nippert Stadium and the Bearcats.
Speaker 2: And then Sunday it's at Green Bay. Gets on the plane,
Speaker 2: goes to Green Bay, one of the coolest places to
Speaker 2: watch a football game in the country, and we'll have
Speaker 2: the call for a four to twenty five with he
Speaker 2: and a lap here on the home of the best
Speaker 2: Bengals coverage. Dan all the best, Buddy, Thanks again for jumping.
Speaker 4: I appreciate it, my pleasure, Jelani, thanks for having me on.
Speaker 3: Take care, sir.
Speaker 2: Let's get a news update in and one return on
Speaker 2: the show on seven hundred WLW. We got some movies
Speaker 2: and streaming to catch up on. We'll do that just ahead,
Speaker 2: including a John Candy bio pick or maybe it's a series.
Speaker 3: I'm not sure.
Speaker 2: Anyway, if you're a fan of the late comedian John
Speaker 2: Candy news, you need just Ahead seven hundred. Why Mike
Speaker 2: god Morner, how are you, buddy?
Speaker 1: Doing well?
Speaker 7: Good?
Speaker 4: How right?
Speaker 3: I'm doing fine? Mike?
Speaker 2: Is Mike Debuski from ABC News in New York breaking
Speaker 2: down movies this week. John Candy as a documentary. I
Speaker 2: saw the tease for it on Amazon Prime, but I
Speaker 2: was really short. I don't know what to make of
Speaker 2: this whole thing.
Speaker 8: Yeah, So this is a new documentary looking back on
Speaker 8: the life of the late comedian John Candy, a guy
Speaker 8: we probably all have some sort of relationship with, whether
Speaker 8: you know, I'm from Home Alone at the very end
Speaker 8: of that movie Planes, Trains and Automobiles, Stripes Slash.
Speaker 3: He was in a ton of movies.
Speaker 8: Stretching from the nineteen seventies all the way up to
Speaker 8: the nineteen nineties. He unfortunately passed away from a heart
Speaker 8: attack in nineteen ninety four. This new documentary all started
Speaker 8: because of Ryan Reynolds, if you can believe it, a
Speaker 8: fellow Canadian comedian who a few years ago put together
Speaker 8: sort of a highlight reel of John Candy's career, looking
Speaker 8: back on his life, and he posted that.
Speaker 3: Video online and it went super viral.
Speaker 8: People really responded to it, seeming to indicate that there
Speaker 8: was an appetite for this type of thing. Ryan Reynolds
Speaker 8: approached Colin Hanks, the son of Tom Hanks, who directed
Speaker 8: this documentary, and the family of John Candy, including his
Speaker 8: two children and his late wife, all of whom participated
Speaker 8: in this documentary looking back through their old old home movies,
Speaker 8: looking back through interviews with John Candy that kind of
Speaker 8: pieced together this story of a guy who really did
Speaker 8: not expect to be a comedian. He actually was, you know,
Speaker 8: looking to either go into the military as a young
Speaker 8: man or maybe become a professional football player, but found
Speaker 8: himself to be a very talented comedian, starting off with
Speaker 8: the sort of falt comedy sketch comedy show SCTV sort
Speaker 8: of known as like the anti SNL for a little while,
Speaker 8: and then moving into movies like Stripes and like Splash,
Speaker 8: as we said, Uncle Buck Home Alone, Like these are
Speaker 8: you know, classic films that John Candy really did change
Speaker 8: for the better. Right he was known as being this
Speaker 8: very generous performer. I actually had a chance to talk
Speaker 8: to They had a chance to talk to John Candy's
Speaker 8: two children, who were just kids when they when their
Speaker 8: dad passed away in nineteen ninety four, and they said
Speaker 8: that the experience of putting this documentary together, of piecing
Speaker 8: through all this old footage of him really did make
Speaker 8: them feel like detectives in their own father's life. That's
Speaker 8: the words that they use and it really does show
Speaker 8: up on screen. It's a really moving documentary. I have
Speaker 8: to say it's worth your time if you like John
Speaker 8: Candy or if you're just interested in the history of comedy.
Speaker 2: He seemed like a really, really good guy, both on
Speaker 2: screen and off.
Speaker 8: Yeah, generosity is a word that keeps coming up in
Speaker 8: interviews in this documentary. You hear from a lot of
Speaker 8: big time comedians. First and foremost, hear from Bill Murray,
Speaker 8: mel Brooks, Katherine O'Hara, Conan O'Brien, Martin short like, there's
Speaker 8: a ton of people that they got together for this documentary,
Speaker 8: and they all said that John Candy was such a
Speaker 8: great scene partner because he was always giving you something
Speaker 8: to work with as an actor, as a performer, he
Speaker 8: was never trying to win the scene. He understood that
Speaker 8: it was a collaborative process. And I think that really
Speaker 8: does speak to John Candy's whole oubra right. His whole
Speaker 8: sort of mood was to be generous, to make sure
Speaker 8: that not just the performers were taken care of, but
Speaker 8: the cast and crew as well, in addition to making
Speaker 8: time for his family and the stresses of that did
Speaker 8: take a toll on him. John Candy was a heavier guy,
Speaker 8: and Hollywood put pressure on this man, according to this documentary,
Speaker 8: to a a little overweight so that they could poke
Speaker 8: fun at him. Some of these older interviews with John
Speaker 8: Candy as well are kind of uncomfortable to sit through
Speaker 8: because he can tell the interviewers trying to get a
Speaker 8: joke out of, you know, his weight, when you know
Speaker 8: John Candy himself is not very comfortable with that, and
Speaker 8: that tension also does sort of run through this entire
Speaker 8: documentary where you know he did feel stressed by that.
Speaker 8: He never let it, you know, derail his career necessarily,
Speaker 8: but that did, you know, take a toll on him,
Speaker 8: you know, over the course ben years.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go top three, I'm gonna go Uncle Buck Stripes,
Speaker 2: and then kind of like Back of the Room Canadian Bacon,
Speaker 2: which is a movie about with John Candy, I think
Speaker 2: played the mayor and it's about the president of the
Speaker 2: United States needs a controversies who gin's up basically a
Speaker 2: war against Canada.
Speaker 8: And the Canadian part of this runs through this so
Speaker 8: big way.
Speaker 3: I have to say, Yeah.
Speaker 8: I gotta say I think we should shout out playing
Speaker 8: strains and Automobiles. Oh yeah, you know, Baseballs is another
Speaker 8: great one and something that people forget that John Candy
Speaker 8: was in was one of Steven Spielberg's first movies nineteen
Speaker 8: forty one at War drama of all things. But yeah,
Speaker 8: he really did have a pretty varied career. I also
Speaker 8: just love him in Home Alone. I think the last
Speaker 8: game in the last speak was freely with him in
Speaker 8: the Catherine O'Hara in Home Alone, and he's.
Speaker 3: The polka singer, like.
Speaker 8: Classic John Dannity stuff where it's really funny but it's
Speaker 8: also really heart selt and warm.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he never comes over and like steals the whole movie.
Speaker 3: Kind of guy.
Speaker 2: But at the same time, like if if he like
Speaker 2: I think the best camey of sort of cam something
Speaker 2: would be Vacation with Chevy Chase. I mean he came
Speaker 2: in as a security guard and.
Speaker 3: Just owned it.
Speaker 8: Yeah, And and that was actually the documentary gets into this.
Speaker 8: They were kind of just looking for a guy and
Speaker 8: John Candy with a round it's even so it's sort
Speaker 8: of happenstance that he fell into that role. But yeah,
Speaker 8: the end of Vacation is a great example of that,
Speaker 8: playing that like you know, a character that he says
Speaker 8: was inspired by one of the characters he played on SCTV.
Speaker 3: Uh, you know, in this in this new role.
Speaker 8: That was kind of update guy, but like that forced
Speaker 8: to deal with the you know, obviously the craziness of
Speaker 8: Chevy Chase.
Speaker 3: So it's it's good. He used to love.
Speaker 2: STV because where I grew up in Western New York,
Speaker 2: and so you know, you get the Canadian stations and
Speaker 2: that was like before us and l there was that
Speaker 2: that was on STV is like on Friday nights, I
Speaker 2: think or something like that, and so you'd watch that
Speaker 2: and the Mackenzie Brothers and but but so many people
Speaker 2: came out of Second City, Chicago and then to Toronto.
Speaker 2: You know, it's you know, dan Aykroyd's in there and
Speaker 2: John Candies in there, and you just go on and
Speaker 2: on with all these great names and people, you know,
Speaker 2: Geene Levy, et cetera, Catherine O'Hara, and then they all
Speaker 2: come back together and you go, oh, yeah, I remember
Speaker 2: them when and of course now they're older now. So anyway,
Speaker 2: is it one or three or five? And how well
Speaker 2: is it a series?
Speaker 9: Mike?
Speaker 3: No, it's a one and done.
Speaker 8: It's okay, about a two hours, so maybe like an
Speaker 8: hour forty five documentary on Amazon Prime Video.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'd watch that all.
Speaker 2: Right, theaters, Let's pivot from the small screen to the
Speaker 2: big The new Tron movie is out right now, and
Speaker 2: I know that Nine Inch Nails. I'm not a huge
Speaker 2: Nine Inch Nails fan, but I do like some of
Speaker 2: their songs, so that kind of intrigued me.
Speaker 3: And I saw that Jeff Bridges back, right, Jeff Bridges
Speaker 3: is back.
Speaker 8: This is the third Tron movie and Jeff Bridges is
Speaker 8: in all of them. So this is a classic sort
Speaker 8: of sci fi franchise. All got started about forty three
Speaker 8: years ago in the early nineteen eighties with this story
Speaker 8: of Jeff Bridges with a computer programmer who got sucked
Speaker 8: into a computer game, and that computer game with brawn
Speaker 8: of course, with big neon lights and at this point
Speaker 8: now pretty data visuals, but even still it was a
Speaker 8: really you know, impactful movie in the history of sci
Speaker 8: fi cinema. They follow that up in twenty ten with
Speaker 8: Tron Legacy, that, of course, you know, also starred Jeff Bridges,
Speaker 8: and you know, had this really cool daft punk soundtrack
Speaker 8: that a lot of people still listen to. Now we're
Speaker 8: back with Tron aries. This stars Jared Leto and Greta
Speaker 8: Lee alongside the returning Jeff Bridges. As you said, it
Speaker 8: is scored by nine Inch Nails. So they didn't get
Speaker 8: daft punk back that punk broke up, unfortunately, but they
Speaker 8: did get a similar sort of like electronic kind of
Speaker 8: vibe back. And that is one of the big draws
Speaker 8: of these Tron movies. They have these killer soundtracks, these
Speaker 8: really distinctive visuals. However, they're never quite reviewed positively in
Speaker 8: terms of the stories, and I think that is holding
Speaker 8: true with this new one. I'm looking at the New
Speaker 8: York Times review right now, which is titled who needs
Speaker 8: logic when you have Neon? And then of course the
Speaker 8: rap also says skip the hack sequel, just download.
Speaker 3: This down track.
Speaker 2: I remember seeing parts of Tron because back then was
Speaker 2: when we first got a pay cable like HBO, and
Speaker 2: there were four movies and they'd run them all like
Speaker 2: all the time. You'd seen the same four movies over
Speaker 2: and over. One of them would be Tron, and I remember,
Speaker 2: even as a kid watching it, going it's pretty cheesy.
Speaker 3: Yeah, even in period.
Speaker 8: I remember I had a Tron video game back in
Speaker 8: the day, and that's how I learned about Tron. I
Speaker 8: was like everybody was saying, it's like, oh, Tron Legacy's
Speaker 8: coming up. They made a movie based on video game.
Speaker 2: No, no, no other way around, So it is it any good?
Speaker 3: I mean, what's the reviews? Like?
Speaker 8: Not not super positive? It seems like but I think
Speaker 8: said that's always been the case with Tron movie. You
Speaker 8: know a little bit of style over substance, but that's.
Speaker 3: Not always a bad thing.
Speaker 2: It's a weird neat right because it's it's not it's
Speaker 2: sci fi, but it's kind of like not good. It's
Speaker 2: not like Star Trek Star Wars where there's a huge
Speaker 2: passion like Core Tron, people aren't that big, and it's
Speaker 2: just it just kind of like falls between the cracks.
Speaker 3: I think the best way to describe.
Speaker 8: The franchise definitely, Yeah, it's got it's fans, but it's
Speaker 8: a passionate, small fan base. I would say it's definitely
Speaker 8: not a Star Wars or a Star Trek in that regard.
Speaker 8: But again, I mean, if you're a fan of big
Speaker 8: sci fi spectacle, this definitely does seem like it will
Speaker 8: do the trick instead of people being sucked into computers.
Speaker 8: This is computer programs that have become self aware, spilling
Speaker 8: out into our real world and wreaking.
Speaker 3: All sorts of paboc.
Speaker 8: It seems like the classic Tron light cycles as well,
Speaker 8: which I'm a fan of the motorcycles that put up
Speaker 8: the giant digital m They make a reappearance here.
Speaker 3: So that is kind of an exciting all right. One
Speaker 3: of our not to the old John films, one of.
Speaker 2: Our entertainment Greuz Mike Tbiski from New York on the
Speaker 2: show on seven hundred w welw and years ago when
Speaker 2: the Borat movie first came out and a huge fan
Speaker 2: of Sasha Baron Cone stuff that kind of stuff, and
Speaker 2: I went to the theater to watch it, and I
Speaker 2: was pleasantly amused because there are people showing up, older
Speaker 2: people who elderly people show up to watch it think
Speaker 2: it was actually a documentary about a country that doesn't exist.
Speaker 2: And they were leaving, literally in the first five ten
Speaker 2: minutes of movies completely pissed off because they thought it
Speaker 2: was a real documentary, which I found outstanding agid prop.
Speaker 2: And so now fast forward to if you go to
Speaker 2: see Kiss a Spider Woman expecting to be a Marvel
Speaker 2: franchise kind of it's not right.
Speaker 3: Oh no, not ryologue, stretch somenings. Go Wait a minute,
Speaker 3: I thought there was a Spider Woman. What the hell? Yeah,
Speaker 3: not a reference to Spider Man. No can Spider Woman.
Speaker 8: It is a musical starring Jennifer Lopez and is based
Speaker 8: on a book which was then turned into a musical
Speaker 8: in the nineteen eighties, both a stage and a film musical.
Speaker 8: Now they're remaking it with Jennifer Lopez sort of in
Speaker 8: the starring role. She plays three different characters in this movie,
Speaker 8: but it's really set in the early nineteen eighties in
Speaker 8: Argentina and sort of the waning days of an authoritarian
Speaker 8: government there. And what they get into in this story
Speaker 8: is the story of two political prisoners, effectively, one of
Speaker 8: whom is telling the story of this classic Hollywood movie
Speaker 8: to the other one basically as a way to entertain
Speaker 8: themselves while they're in prison. And as this person is
Speaker 8: telling this story, you the viewer, find yourself transported to
Speaker 8: the world of the musical film. So it goes from
Speaker 8: the gray, brown, drab prison to this very technicolor kind
Speaker 8: of expressive musical world with again Jennifer Lopez kind of
Speaker 8: in the starring Hollywood role. There also starts Diego Luno,
Speaker 8: who star Wars fans might recognize as Cassie and and
Speaker 8: Or from the and Or TV series, also from the
Speaker 8: Rogue One movie. He's in this and also a relative newcomer,
Speaker 8: Tona Tua just goes by one name in this film,
Speaker 8: and this person that really is a standout. I got
Speaker 8: a chance to see this movie a little bit early,
Speaker 8: and I walked away very impressed. You know, it sounds
Speaker 8: like it's kind of a hodgepodge of a lot of
Speaker 8: different things. It deals with a lot of different things,
Speaker 8: from sort of political storylines to sexuality storylines, storylines about
Speaker 8: love and death and all these other sorts of things.
Speaker 8: I gotta say it, lands, I think it really really
Speaker 8: works with the caveat that I understand that musicals are
Speaker 8: not for everyone. I am partial to musicals. That is,
Speaker 8: you know, the sort of disclaimer that I'll give. But
Speaker 8: even still, it is a good time at the movies.
Speaker 8: Tront is expected to be the big winner at the
Speaker 8: box office this weekend. This is going to be kind
Speaker 8: of a lesser player, it seem, at least in terms
Speaker 8: of box office draw but I walked away really impressed.
Speaker 3: If you're into musicals, if you like j.
Speaker 8: Love, maybe even if you like Cassie and or from
Speaker 8: Star Wars, maybe check this one.
Speaker 3: Out, all right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and Kayelowe is gonna crush it no matter what
Speaker 2: she does. If she's singing on a microphone, you're good.
Speaker 2: Even without a microphone, she's pretty good. So this is
Speaker 2: like the little hall a lull And in a few
Speaker 2: weeks we'll probably fire up the holiday season and get
Speaker 2: ready for that. So Mike Debiskie in New York at
Speaker 2: ABC at the Michael Lebuski as his handle, Thanks again, buddy,
Speaker 2: appreciate you checking on this Friday morning.
Speaker 3: Have a great one, have a good take care all right.
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Speaker 2: for sure, get out and enjoy it because we're not
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Speaker 2: Friday morning with news happening in just about three minutes
Speaker 2: when we return, it's Representative Greg Landsman.
Speaker 3: We'll check out on the show. What the hell is
Speaker 3: he doing.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna ask him if he's willing to as a
Speaker 2: member of Congress and Congress's not doing anything with the shutdown,
Speaker 2: you should go around at least I don't know. It's
Speaker 2: two early shovel driveways. How about go cut some lawns.
Speaker 2: First ten callers at five point three seven, give us
Speaker 2: your addressing, Greg Landsman, you're representative, roll up of sleeves,
Speaker 2: you know'll cut your grass?
Speaker 3: God damn it? Doing something.
Speaker 2: Actually, I believe he's given his money back, so he's
Speaker 2: not taking a paycheck.
Speaker 3: But I said, you went in.
Speaker 2: The shutdown is take away their healthcare benefits and their paycheck,
Speaker 2: and I would think you'd probably not have a shutdown.
Speaker 2: But that's what we'll be talking about. To some degree.
Speaker 2: Of course, what's happening in Gaza right now? How close
Speaker 2: are we to peace? A lot of people say, very
Speaker 2: very close. Looks like it's a done deal. Maybe the
Speaker 2: president heads there this weekend off to Egypt and cut
Speaker 2: her and they're involved and signing this this deal. The
Speaker 2: deal has been struck. We're going to have a cease fire.
Speaker 2: Question is how long it lasts. We'll get into that,
Speaker 2: and of course the shutdown related stuff. And an observation
Speaker 2: here is, you know, okay, one side blames the other.
Speaker 2: We've seen this blame game go on. Is that Democrats
Speaker 2: are the ones who force the government shut down because
Speaker 2: it's the only way to get negotiations with the little
Speaker 2: power they hold. And the reason why they picked healthcare
Speaker 2: is because it's it's of the I think three issues
Speaker 2: ones women's rights in the environment, and the other being healthcare.
Speaker 3: It's the one that most people respond to.
Speaker 2: And of course, with the subsidies expiring or is set
Speaker 2: to expire here, now, hey, it's one of the few
Speaker 2: things that we're beating Trump on, which would be healthcare.
Speaker 2: So let's take that issue that people trust us on
Speaker 2: and use that to maybe build some momentum here.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 2: I don't know what kind of momentum it is right now,
Speaker 2: because they don't have one as far as a party
Speaker 2: goes and where it's headed and what's happening. If you
Speaker 2: think there are things are a little screwed up with
Speaker 2: the Republicans, they're a lot more screwed up with the Democrats.
Speaker 2: And the end result is government is shut down because
Speaker 2: of that. But I think you also have to look
Speaker 2: at it and go, how did this whole thing happen
Speaker 2: to begin with? Well, Democrats rolled Obamacare subsidies, the extensions
Speaker 2: of Obamacare for ACA, right into the American Rescue Plan.
Speaker 2: I'll get into this with Greg. So we had the
Speaker 2: American Rescue Plan. What's the America. It's COVID. We had
Speaker 2: COVID stuff, okay, and you kept trying to drag COVID
Speaker 2: on much much longer than necessary. We got to keep
Speaker 2: we got COVID relief COVID that first year a couple
Speaker 2: of years. Absolutely, we're shut down. We didn't know what
Speaker 2: we were doing. Once you start to get to year five,
Speaker 2: you can't really go back, Well it's COVID, like no.
Speaker 2: And then they went, well, we can't use COVID anymore.
Speaker 2: We'll make it the Inflation Reduction Act. And the problem
Speaker 2: is all of the stuff in Inflation Reduction Act, Rescue Plan, Obamacare,
Speaker 2: all of it was passed by executive FIAT, by the
Speaker 2: pen of Joe Biden, by BARACKO. But there's not a
Speaker 2: vote on this stuff, right. So the end result is
Speaker 2: we have a government that now a Congress, it doesn't
Speaker 2: do anything because we've completely given that authority to the president.
Speaker 2: And again we saw what Biden did, and when Donald
Speaker 2: Trump got elect he said, okay, we'll hold my beer
Speaker 2: because here we go. You want to see some executive orders,
Speaker 2: watch this. We've had a flurry of them, and again
Speaker 2: that's you don't need Congress. If the executive branch you
Speaker 2: can to sign everything way. That's not how the constitution works.
Speaker 2: But we allowed them to get away with it. We'll
Speaker 2: talk more with Greg Lansman afternoons on the Home of
Speaker 2: the Best Bengals coverage seven hundred WW. Since then, do
Speaker 2: you want to be an American?
Speaker 3: Got flowing?
Speaker 2: Friday morning, seven hundred WLW. We're nearing the end of
Speaker 2: our second full week of shutdown theater. Republicans are screaming
Speaker 2: at Democrats that they're forcing a shut down to score
Speaker 2: political points. Democrats are screaming at Republicans saying they just
Speaker 2: don't want to sit down and negotiate, and of course,
Speaker 2: a shutdown because Republicans Democrats can't agree to pass a
Speaker 2: funding bill. Republicans still need them to support any resolution
Speaker 2: to spend and they're holding them hostage result, and we
Speaker 2: have this shutdown. So Greg Lansman is here, our representative,
Speaker 2: and what are we paying you for?
Speaker 3: Exactly Landsman? Right now, you're not doing anything.
Speaker 4: What I mean, I'm trying. I'm negotia. We're trying to
Speaker 4: negotiate with the folks. Uh, you know, I'm in the
Speaker 4: problem for elvers cackus. So there's a bunch of Democrats
Speaker 4: who Republicans are working through. At the sticking point is
Speaker 4: this healthcare question and and and these affordable care access
Speaker 4: These are set to expire at the end of the
Speaker 4: year and open enrollment starts in a few weeks. And
Speaker 4: you know, there are those of us who want a
Speaker 4: resolution to this now so that those extensions happen, and
Speaker 4: others who say, you know, reopen the government and then
Speaker 4: we'll talk about healthcare. But you know that that that's
Speaker 4: the crux of this is trying to get a deal
Speaker 4: done where we reopen the government and protect people's health care.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: And I think for well a lot of us anyway
Speaker 2: who are not political kool aid drinkers and look at
Speaker 2: and just throw our hands up and go, I just
Speaker 2: you know one point that we're pointing. It's I almost stupid.
Speaker 2: You're both wearing the same T shirt and that's essentially
Speaker 2: what this is.
Speaker 3: And we know how we are.
Speaker 2: Okay, So Democrats, you guys, you forced a government shutdown
Speaker 2: because it's the only way to bring about the negotiations
Speaker 2: because you don't hold any juice, you don't have the power.
Speaker 2: So you know, I look at that and go, can't
Speaker 2: we extend it? Well, I mean, it's going to cost
Speaker 2: us like a trillion and a half dollars over the
Speaker 2: next seven weeks to just simply kick the can down
Speaker 2: the wrong and go, okay, we'll pass another continuing resolution.
Speaker 2: And that's the frustrating part all of this, at least theatrics.
Speaker 4: Greg.
Speaker 2: It's just it's continuing to add to our thirty seven
Speaker 2: trillion dollar national debt, and neither side's talking about that.
Speaker 4: I mean, I think that's that's that's right, And the
Speaker 4: deficit is a huge part of this too, right, So
Speaker 4: I do take exception with the sort of you know,
Speaker 4: the forcing of the shutdown. I mean, the challenge wise,
Speaker 4: you know, Republicans knew they needed Democratic votes to pass
Speaker 4: a budget, and they were told by Trump not to negotiate. Now,
Speaker 4: in previous years, there has been by Parson negotiation. Since
Speaker 4: I produced a bipartison budget or continuing resolution. They did
Speaker 4: not do that, and that that's what forced the shut down.
Speaker 4: That that would be my argument, that's the way it
Speaker 4: played out, in the way I taught it was. It
Speaker 4: would have been super easy to sit down and negotiate
Speaker 4: and had their enough and told don't negotiate, I think
Speaker 4: they would have. But the deficit is a huge, huge
Speaker 4: piece of this fight too, because remember this all started
Speaker 4: the mess, uh, you know several months ago with the
Speaker 4: this this massive spending and tax bill that added you know,
Speaker 4: trillions of dollars to the deficit, and then and then
Speaker 4: cut healthcare by over trillion dollars, all to pay for
Speaker 4: these tax cuts, tax cuts that overwhelmingly benefit folks at
Speaker 4: the top. Now have they not done that, we would
Speaker 4: not be in this mess and we would not have
Speaker 4: added trillions of dollars to the deficit. But I'm I'm
Speaker 4: a firm believer that none of that matters.
Speaker 1: No one really cares.
Speaker 4: You do not have to get in a room and
Speaker 4: sort it out and in this case, reopened the government
Speaker 4: while also protecting healthcare. Just because this is relevant to
Speaker 4: my job as a member I represent, you know, eight
Speaker 4: hundred thousand constituents in our districts in southwest Ohio. Thirty
Speaker 4: two thousand people are going to see their healthcare beremiums
Speaker 4: skyrocket if we don't do something now, and fourteen thousand
Speaker 4: folks here will lose their healthcare all together. I can't
Speaker 4: I can't just punt on that.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean.
Speaker 4: I've got to get that result.
Speaker 2: I got to get and I get the short term
Speaker 2: necessity for this, Greg Lansman.
Speaker 3: So the fact that so the substantes expire and.
Speaker 2: The premiums for those in the Affordable Care Act, the
Speaker 2: marketplace right would more than double on app goes up
Speaker 2: for like I think I saw eight hundred and almost
Speaker 2: nine hundred dollars to nineteen hundred dollars a year for individuals.
Speaker 2: It's like one hundred plus percent increase A math forgive me,
Speaker 2: but that's a hell of a lot of money, right So,
Speaker 2: and that's going to hit tens of thousands of people
Speaker 2: in the district. And I look at that, go, Okay,
Speaker 2: that's real money. It's gonna affect real people, and that
Speaker 2: is a that's a huge problem. And I guess the
Speaker 2: thing is the fact that that, why isn't anyone just
Speaker 2: talking about how we're just extending more subsidies, like it's
Speaker 2: not really affordable. We're just taking money from a different
Speaker 2: pile and moving it to this pile to help people out.
Speaker 2: When you look at it, you go, wow, why does
Speaker 2: it cost so much for healthcare in this country? Why
Speaker 2: why aren't we addressing that issue rather than saying, hey,
Speaker 2: we can't socialized medicine like Republicans climate you know, you guys,
Speaker 2: they very least have a plan. It's the Affordable Care Act,
Speaker 2: and you know, patchwork Medicare and Medicaid and everything else,
Speaker 2: and it's we know that doesn't really work because subsidy
Speaker 2: is just transferring more money and covering up the problem.
Speaker 2: It shouldn't cost thirteen thousand dollars per person in the
Speaker 2: United States for just basic level healthcare. The other side,
Speaker 2: you know, Republicans don't really have an alternative solution to
Speaker 2: the healthcare crisis here. Why why don't we ever address
Speaker 2: that as opposed to just band it?
Speaker 4: Because it's hard, right, and politicians don't usually like to
Speaker 4: do the hard work. That's the stuff I love the most.
Speaker 4: I actually think that the health care complexity is what
Speaker 4: you know. I mean, that's one of the reasons why
Speaker 4: I joined the Energy and Commerce because that's where we
Speaker 4: take on the healthcare fight. And ultimately this gets back
Speaker 4: to who's paying for health care? And so for a
Speaker 4: long time, you know, employers did, and most employers would
Speaker 4: cover your health care costs. And that's not the case anymore.
Speaker 4: You have more and more people who are working who
Speaker 4: don't get health care through their employers have to go
Speaker 4: buy it separately, and it's just too expensive for most
Speaker 4: people based on what people are earning. And so you know,
Speaker 4: the question is do you want those folks to have
Speaker 4: no health insurance, which screws everybody right because health care
Speaker 4: costs go up across the board. Or an't it bad
Speaker 4: to just, you know, have people running around without health insurance.
Speaker 2: You work two or three jobs and it's part time.
Speaker 2: And you know, the again, the engine that drives American economy.
Speaker 2: Of course, small business and those who went with the
Speaker 2: vast majoriy of businesses employ less than two hundred people
Speaker 2: and fewer and fear of those businesses are offering healthcare
Speaker 2: mefods simply because it costs much.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and so then there are two places that A
Speaker 4: lot of folks go. I mean, you know, there's obviously Medicare,
Speaker 4: there's Medicaid. If you're you're working and you're not making
Speaker 4: enough money to buy health insurance in the private marketplace,
Speaker 4: and your employer does not give you health care, which
Speaker 4: is the case for these lower wage jobs. And then
Speaker 4: and then you have a lot of middle class folks
Speaker 4: who are working really hard. They cover they can pay
Speaker 4: maybe you know, five six hundred dollars a week, but
Speaker 4: they can't a month. But they can't pay.
Speaker 1: The thousand dollars are being asked.
Speaker 4: To pay, so the subsidy helps to cover that and
Speaker 4: keep people ensured. That helps small businesses because you know,
Speaker 4: somebody helping, so they're stick around and they're they're not losing, right.
Speaker 3: I understand that point.
Speaker 2: My point is, Greg, it doesn't Okay, you were just
Speaker 2: taking more tax pair money and subsidizing it. And I
Speaker 2: know we're in a nation of substies, but the point
Speaker 2: is it's so expensive because of the system that's in
Speaker 2: place right now. You said this is a hard problem.
Speaker 2: I don't think it's that hard To'll be honest with you.
Speaker 2: Hear me out for a second. Okay, so you've got
Speaker 2: these enhanced subsidies that were started in twenty twenty one
Speaker 2: from COVID nineteen and we got in through twenty twenty five,
Speaker 2: which I don't know. We're far moved from COVID right now.
Speaker 2: And it's been a cover for a long time to say,
Speaker 2: well it's COVID. Well no, it's a you know, this
Speaker 2: has to do with the Inflation Reduction Act. And by
Speaker 2: the way, all those things were pasted like Trump's doing
Speaker 2: right now with executive order. So Congress has literally been
Speaker 2: rendered at gelding here in this case, because you guys,
Speaker 2: you know, if we're going to have executive decree in
Speaker 2: an executive branch and the president just signed away an
Speaker 2: executive order everything, this is.
Speaker 3: What we wind up getting.
Speaker 2: And this is why the government shut down because Congress
Speaker 2: is kind of effectful. So I look at the failures
Speaker 2: in healthcare in the market and go, you know, I
Speaker 2: buy life insurance. You have a hear Well life insurance policy.
Speaker 2: I got car insurance. I buy that on the market.
Speaker 2: I have homeowners or I have renters insurance. We buy
Speaker 2: stuff on the open market all the time. Healthcare doesn't
Speaker 2: work like that. And I think if you just simply
Speaker 2: it really is it for Congress?
Speaker 3: Doho goes. Listen.
Speaker 2: If you're an employer, you can't offer health care benefits anymore.
Speaker 2: We're going to open it up to insurance companies from
Speaker 2: around the country. They're going to bid on it. It's innovative,
Speaker 2: the lowest cost wins. And then all the money that
Speaker 2: we spend on bureaucracy and compliance and share all that stuff,
Speaker 2: all that money can go and help people who fall
Speaker 2: between the cracks, who really need it. And look at
Speaker 2: the gig economy. So many people are stuck in jobs
Speaker 2: they hate or they're underpaid because they have health care benefits.
Speaker 2: If we freed people from employment and health care benefits
Speaker 2: and liberated them, the economy would explode.
Speaker 3: Why aren't we doing that.
Speaker 2: It's the easiest thing in the world for you guys
Speaker 2: to go. No, you're a business. You can't offer health insurance.
Speaker 2: You're not giving me car insurance. You're not taking care
Speaker 2: of my homeowners insurance. You're not by my pet insurance
Speaker 2: or my reunter's insurance. Why are we doing little of
Speaker 2: health care?
Speaker 4: Are you as sure as I'm sorry? Are you making
Speaker 4: an argument for a single pair?
Speaker 3: I'm out?
Speaker 2: Yeah, here's the thing, right, so here's the thing, and
Speaker 2: it's based on and there's still going to be subsidy
Speaker 2: of course, because there's people that again you said, you know,
Speaker 2: if you make the standard what eight hundred, I forget
Speaker 2: what the percentage is, but a percentage your income goes
Speaker 2: to healthcare costs, just like it does for everything else.
Speaker 2: And if you can't meet that, the government can come
Speaker 2: in and help you there, and we'll have more than
Speaker 2: enough money to not only put that towards the deficit
Speaker 2: greg but also help people who really need it.
Speaker 3: That's good for Republicans and Democrats.
Speaker 1: Isn't it.
Speaker 4: I mean, I do believe that the current passion does
Speaker 4: not work and and sort of taking away from that
Speaker 4: is just going to create this crisis, right, so that
Speaker 4: I agree with, which is you know, I believe there
Speaker 4: should be a single payer, or at least a public
Speaker 4: option where people can buy into Medicaid, which is an
Speaker 4: incredibly efficient uh uh you know healthcare uh systems, and
Speaker 4: it's got the lowest overhead. I'm not I'm not a
Speaker 4: big believer that everything should be uh, you know, for profit,
Speaker 4: Like I just don't think that these healthcare companies should
Speaker 4: be running a big profit.
Speaker 2: Well, you're in the wrong country then buddy.
Speaker 4: But yes and no, like there are certain places where
Speaker 4: we don't say okay, like I, we we say, look,
Speaker 4: we want the profits or any additional resources here to
Speaker 4: go into people's care, Like people should not be making
Speaker 4: you know, billions and billions of dollars, you know, running
Speaker 4: these healthcare companies or pharmaceutical companies when in fact you
Speaker 4: have all of these people who are struggling to pay
Speaker 4: for their health care. So I don't think that the
Speaker 4: current system works. But we're not going to be We're
Speaker 4: not going to change that. Yeah, the question is it
Speaker 4: is like you know, this this is being negotiated or
Speaker 4: worked on simultaneously with the President announcing a twenty billion.
Speaker 1: Dollar subsidy for Argentina.
Speaker 4: Now that went under the radar screen, you know, radar
Speaker 4: for most people. But like, why are we sending twenty
Speaker 4: billion dollars to Argentina?
Speaker 1: I mean seriously, yeah.
Speaker 4: When it could easily solve this problem and reopen the government.
Speaker 4: You know, I just don't get it, Like I I
Speaker 4: agree that, like, you can't subsidize everything, but so far
Speaker 4: this administration has picked a few things until you know,
Speaker 4: maybe some additional companies as like this TikTok deal and
Speaker 4: some other things. We're not entirely sure and Argentina, but
Speaker 4: you can't help people pay their health care. That doesn't
Speaker 4: make any sense.
Speaker 3: To me zero. Right.
Speaker 2: He's Greg Landsman, a representative here this morning was only
Speaker 2: on seven hundred WLW. How long do you perceive this, guy?
Speaker 2: I mean, you know you're kind of on the inside.
Speaker 2: You're hearing stuff too. Is how long does this drag on?
Speaker 2: At What point is enough enough? When is the point made?
Speaker 9: When?
Speaker 4: I mean, like, at least for me, like I've got
Speaker 4: to I've got to keep fighting for the healthcare piece,
Speaker 4: just because I've got so many constituents who are gonna
Speaker 4: weep for healthcare if we don't get this done. I
Speaker 4: suspect that one of two things will happen. Either Trump
Speaker 4: finally gets involved. I've never seen this happen where the
Speaker 4: presidents are sort of unplugged, like you do need the
Speaker 4: president to step in and say, okay, we're going to
Speaker 4: get a deal done, right, and he has not done
Speaker 4: that yet. They had an hour meeting in the White
Speaker 4: House a couple of weeks ago. He mostly just kind
Speaker 4: of listened. I don't I think he was getting caught
Speaker 4: up based on my you know, understanding of the meeting,
Speaker 4: like you need a president, Like if you were a
Speaker 4: president or I was president, we would we would lock
Speaker 4: a couple of people in a room and just say
Speaker 4: get a deal done. That's suicide. Yeah, and and they
Speaker 4: would get resolved. That's the other option is that it's
Speaker 4: sort of you know, from the bottom up, which is
Speaker 4: that there's a group of Senators Jean Shaheen and and
Speaker 4: Lisa mccowski and a few others, you know, Republican Democrats
Speaker 4: and a group of us on the House side who
Speaker 4: have been pushing this notion that you have to just
Speaker 4: open things up, get the stubs that you done, maybe
Speaker 4: with some reform, capping it, for example, at a certain
Speaker 4: income level. Uh and and and and then live to
Speaker 4: fight another day. And if that happens, I think that
Speaker 4: forces that forces in the seat.
Speaker 2: Well, well here's what and and and I think, okay,
Speaker 2: it may force And then in seven weeks do we
Speaker 2: do this all over again?
Speaker 4: No, I wouldn't. Like I'm I'm a big fan of
Speaker 4: saying like we're not doing this for like, we're not
Speaker 4: going to do this every couple of weeks. So if
Speaker 4: we pass a continuing resolution that also includes these healthcare
Speaker 4: provisions that should beat for the year. And if we
Speaker 4: can get a budget done, an actual budget, great, then
Speaker 4: put that on the floor and that can.
Speaker 2: Be incredibly I got an actual budget done at this point,
Speaker 2: He's Representative Greg Lansm.
Speaker 1: Greg.
Speaker 2: Before I let you go real quick, I want to
Speaker 2: pivot to another issue here, and that would be the
Speaker 2: peace in Israel. Hamasa President may fly this weekend to
Speaker 2: the Middle East of Egypt as a hammer.
Speaker 3: It looks like we've got a deal.
Speaker 2: How optimistic are you that this is going to be
Speaker 2: a lasting piece based on what you've seen.
Speaker 4: In her I'm cautiously optimistic.
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, I know the reason why I
Speaker 1: know these players. Well, I've been there, you know, like
Speaker 1: con in.
Speaker 4: The last thirty months, yere, you know, two years, three years,
Speaker 4: and work there for years. This is something I've cared
Speaker 4: about for decades, right and working on like I desperately
Speaker 4: want there to be a lasting piece. It does sound
Speaker 4: like there's a deal to get the hostages home and
Speaker 4: to end the war, which I have been a big
Speaker 4: proponent of. What happens next is it is still a
Speaker 4: question for me. Are you know what happens with Kamas,
Speaker 4: because I think you have to free Gaza of Hamas,
Speaker 4: both for Palestinians and for Israelis and for the region,
Speaker 4: like they can't. They can't stay there and continue to
Speaker 4: dig tunnels and and and kill innocent people and and
Speaker 4: start start wars. And so this comes back to this
Speaker 4: coalition of Arab countries, and if if the administration can
Speaker 4: lock in and dedicate more staff to that coalition and
Speaker 4: formalizing that coalition so that they are there as a
Speaker 4: permanent you know, uh, a permanent leadership, uh source right, you.
Speaker 3: Know that one of the stool, so to speak. There's
Speaker 3: gonna be a lot of people.
Speaker 4: Then I think you have to have a big coalition,
Speaker 4: particularly of Arab countries, which is how they got this
Speaker 4: deal done, right, They got to steal done because they
Speaker 4: pulled this group together, which is what I spent with
Speaker 4: cock this you know, not to shoot my own horn,
Speaker 4: but this is this was the plan I sent to
Speaker 4: with Cough months ago, which is like the path to
Speaker 4: this is through these airs, through the air of nations.
Speaker 4: Once they declared they were done with Hamas, the door
Speaker 4: was open. That was three or four or five months ago.
Speaker 4: And now you've got to pull them together, which they've
Speaker 4: done to get this deal done, but then you have
Speaker 4: to keep them together in order to get to that
Speaker 4: lasting piece.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: My fear is, as long as you have a ran around,
Speaker 2: you're going to have some It may not be Hamas
Speaker 2: and maybe a hoss light or a different group in Tyree,
Speaker 2: but you're going to that's the problem.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 2: So anyway, he is a representative, Greg Lance. Can you
Speaker 2: go cuff? Can some constituents lawns? I feel like, you
Speaker 2: know we're doing you're doing something for the people, Greg,
Speaker 2: because the sitting around is not a good look for
Speaker 2: you're an.
Speaker 3: Active guy coming.
Speaker 4: I am still yeah, but like I have really uh
Speaker 4: and like desperately trying to you know, get get something
Speaker 4: resolved here. I also suspended my pay.
Speaker 9: Yeah, and and and and I go back to DC
Speaker 9: next week, no matter whether, no matter if the speaker
Speaker 9: calls us back, I'm going back to just keep plugging
Speaker 9: along to try to get.
Speaker 3: This see what you can do?
Speaker 2: I means, yeah, all right, Well, hey man, I appreciate it. Friend,
Speaker 2: thanks again for checking in. He is our represent Greg
Speaker 2: Landsman on The Scotsland Show on seven.
Speaker 3: Have a great weekend.
Speaker 2: Okay, be well youbady appreciate it as always, although we
Speaker 2: disagreed somewhat there, but that's that's actually how it should be,
Speaker 2: right without screaming at each other. Yeah, I just uh, well,
Speaker 2: there's a lot of problems with this. I'm running late,
Speaker 2: and we could kick as the why and how we
Speaker 2: got here, and a lot of this has to do
Speaker 2: with executive orders because Biden did it and then Trump said,
Speaker 2: hold my, hold my diet coke. This is how you
Speaker 2: do executive orders, and this is how we now govern.
Speaker 2: The executive order in Congress does nothing, and here we
Speaker 2: go again. Slaney seven hundred WL.
Speaker 3: Weekend is here.
Speaker 2: That means lots of sports. Austin Elmore has a well
Speaker 2: deserved day off. Actually had the Green Bay.
Speaker 6: He's in there. He's in the Midland in Wisconsin, he is.
Speaker 2: And I'll tell you what, I'm glad he took today off,
Speaker 2: quite honestly, because you need a full three days to
Speaker 2: experience Green Bay if you've never been and have an opportunity,
Speaker 2: I highly encourage that.
Speaker 6: Yeah, he was. He was indulging himself in some cheese
Speaker 6: curds and some pints yesterday. I saw, right, media, So
Speaker 6: that's Uh, he's doing it right. They have cheese curds here.
Speaker 2: I'm just saying they're entirely different in Wisconsin because they're
Speaker 2: like straight from the cow.
Speaker 3: There's still it's they're phenomenal, like absolutely.
Speaker 2: Worth it, just like a cow in the back and
Speaker 2: they just cranking them out like a cow strabbled across
Speaker 2: this big, deep frior and just like someone milking in
Speaker 2: the it just.
Speaker 3: Goes straight in. So there's that.
Speaker 2: There's the Hall of Fame, the Packers facility is it's
Speaker 2: it's really cool. It's really really cool. I don't know
Speaker 2: how to describe it other than really cool. Like the
Speaker 2: village around there and it's basically Packer Lands, like a yeah,
Speaker 2: it's a Wrigley Veal feel to it, you know kind
Speaker 2: of thing, and it's real questioned and just the hall
Speaker 2: of Fame inside there's amazing. And then of course walking
Speaker 2: in the Lambeau a spectacular. So it's just if you
Speaker 2: have a chance to go, soak it all in, soak
Speaker 2: it all in. So Rick Uccino is here. He just
Speaker 2: did the news. He runs into here breathlessly. Brick also
Speaker 2: in addition to the many other hats he wears here,
Speaker 2: because we all wear many hats uh. He covered the
Speaker 2: Bengals for Cerrus XM satellite radio. And So, if you
Speaker 2: think things are bad in Cincinnati with Joe Flacco coming here,
Speaker 2: with the Reds getting this clay, we made the postseason
Speaker 2: and gone swept by the Dodgers, who look like they
Speaker 2: may be the World Series champs. You think it's bad here,
Speaker 2: it could be worse. She could be Philly. Philly gets
Speaker 2: just trucked last night by the New York Giants and
Speaker 2: a wet behind the years quarterback who's playing like the
Speaker 2: second incarnation of Pat Mahomes and.
Speaker 3: Josh Allen's playing like he doesn't.
Speaker 2: Thirty four to seventeen, Philly gets whooped, puts their legacy
Speaker 2: in question. And last night, the most improbable thing of
Speaker 2: all happened in that Dodgers game. Dodgers put it away,
Speaker 2: it's one to one, the head of the eleventh inning,
Speaker 2: there's two outs, the run around first and third. Kirkering
Speaker 2: comes in and he walks the bases loaded, and then
Speaker 2: the play that looks like it's a Little League where
Speaker 2: the balls hit back to the mound, not hard, kind
Speaker 2: of weird, maybe a weird role on its spin, and
Speaker 2: he flubs it instead of throwing the first where he
Speaker 2: clearly had the out. He throws it home and misses
Speaker 2: him by a country mile, and it was maybe a
Speaker 2: fifteen twenty foot throw.
Speaker 6: Yeah, you ever play billiards and you didn't chalk the
Speaker 6: que up enough, That's what it looked like. It looked
Speaker 6: like that little skip right off the bat and it
Speaker 6: hits him in the shoe and it rolls away and
Speaker 6: it man, it was just he just panicked because if
Speaker 6: he just turn first off, he tries to throw home
Speaker 6: with his catcher pointing to Ward's first base, He's like,
Speaker 6: throw the ball there, We're fine, and Steady loves it
Speaker 6: way wide. What what have been? And yeah, just ballgame over.
Speaker 6: If he just turns to his left and looks at
Speaker 6: first base, the runner, I forget who's out the plate
Speaker 6: at the time, he's only halfway to first. He has
Speaker 6: more than enough time to throw that ball. Yeah, he
Speaker 6: continue the game.
Speaker 4: It was Jesse.
Speaker 6: It's one of those moments, that one of those situations
Speaker 6: that you dream about, but you never know how you're
Speaker 6: going to react in that situation, and it was just
Speaker 6: sheer panic and chaos and not the way you want
Speaker 6: your season to end. But still I will argue, by
Speaker 6: the way, I will happily be a Philadelphia sports fan
Speaker 6: this morning if I could be considering, Yeah, the Eagles
Speaker 6: loss last night, there's still the defending Super Bowl champion.
Speaker 2: I'll take that hangover place. Philly does have a world championship.
Speaker 6: In life, my cognitive lifetime. Yes, last time the reds one,
Speaker 6: I was two.
Speaker 3: I get it. I get it.
Speaker 2: I'm so just saying if Philly today is and can
Speaker 2: you imagine being Kirkering and going back to Philly, Like
Speaker 2: I just go, hey, you know what, I'm just gonna
Speaker 2: stay here.
Speaker 6: That man got shoved in a locker last night that
Speaker 6: I could just see Kylee Schwarber chasing him around with
Speaker 6: the Batsay Good in.
Speaker 2: The plane back like TSA is waiting for him. It's like,
Speaker 2: I'm not I'm leaving. No, we're gonna go through your stuff. Yeah,
Speaker 2: we're going through your stuff. Let's start with this. Uh,
Speaker 2: we have the Bengals and we have the Packers. Sunday
Speaker 2: four twenty five, Dan and Lamp with the call at
Speaker 2: Dan on the first hour of the show, Joe Flacco
Speaker 2: comes into town, four year old quarterback Like when this
Speaker 2: broke you're reading I asked this to everyone. What was
Speaker 2: your first reaction was like your gut reaction?
Speaker 6: Thank god? Was that really honestly in all sincerity because
Speaker 6: they had to do something, Scott, Yeah, they had to
Speaker 6: do something. It could have been anybody. It could have
Speaker 6: been Sam Howell, it could have been any other quarterback
Speaker 6: out there. Because I'm watching this game. I was there
Speaker 6: at pay Horse Stadium on Sunday and I am watching
Speaker 6: Jake Browning play the worst game of football I've ever
Speaker 6: seen a quarterback play in my life. He is misreading,
Speaker 6: he is misthrowing, he is panicking, he is playing with
Speaker 6: absolutely no confidence. The entire stadium is booing him out
Speaker 6: of the building, praying that Zach Taylor brings in Brett Rippon.
Speaker 6: And the fact that Zach Taylor didn't bring in Brett
Speaker 6: Rippon when his quarterback has played that bad for twelve
Speaker 6: straight quarters shows you what they thought of Brett Rippon
Speaker 6: in that situation. And You're like, there's no quarterback on
Speaker 6: this roster that gives them a chance to be not
Speaker 6: just win, but be competitive. They had to do something.
Speaker 6: So seeing a guy who, yeah, he hasn't been playing
Speaker 6: that great this season, but the offense in Cleveland is
Speaker 6: not exactly surrounded with talent to help him out outside
Speaker 6: of the tight end position. To see them go out
Speaker 6: and make an in season trade, which they rarely do,
Speaker 6: to actually make a trade with the division rival that
Speaker 6: they've never pulled off before, shows you that they knew
Speaker 6: they had to do something, and they went out and
Speaker 6: they did something, and it cannot get worse. It can't
Speaker 6: get worse.
Speaker 2: My initial reaction was like, oh God, Joe Flacco can't move.
Speaker 2: He's forty years old, and like he's been benched for
Speaker 2: a reason. And I understand that, And Okay, I know
Speaker 2: you got to ge Dylan Gabriel and maybe Shooter Sanders,
Speaker 2: and you know, quarterbacks die in Cleveland.
Speaker 3: I understand that.
Speaker 2: And then it struck me as like, you know what,
Speaker 2: but I'm gonna watch. I'm gonna listen to this game.
Speaker 3: And I went.
Speaker 2: Then it worked because this weekend I was planning on, like,
Speaker 2: you know, I can't do much with my foot, but
Speaker 2: like it wasn't gonna be spending a beautiful Sunday afternoon
Speaker 2: because the weather's amazing sitting inside watching the Bengals screw
Speaker 2: things up. Yeah, now I'm gonna watch. So it worked
Speaker 2: you can either be bad or interesting.
Speaker 6: I would rather you be interesting, right, Joe Flacco is
Speaker 6: is now interesting and you know you can as and
Speaker 6: trust me, we we have a lot of practices with this.
Speaker 6: As Bengals fans, you kind of talk yourself into being
Speaker 6: cautiously optimistic about this. Joe Flacco for his entire career
Speaker 6: right now arguably has the best weapons that he has
Speaker 6: ever had available to him. And I think the hope
Speaker 6: is if you're the Bengals, if you're a Bengals fan,
Speaker 6: you can look at everything that Jake Browning wasn't doing
Speaker 6: and you can hope that Joe Flacco can do that.
Speaker 6: Can he actually make the right decision on an RPO
Speaker 6: with a stacked box instead of handing it off to
Speaker 6: Chase Brown, look over to his left and throw it
Speaker 6: to Jamar Chase when he's got two guys in front
Speaker 6: of him and they're perfectly blocked. Can he make that
Speaker 6: simple throw? Can he analyze the play beforehand and realize
Speaker 6: he's got Chase Brown one on one with a linebacker
Speaker 6: and that dude is going to get cooked, and just
Speaker 6: throwed wide open across the middle of the field for
Speaker 6: a touchdown instead of trying to hit te Higgins on
Speaker 6: a fade route when he's double covered. Like these were
Speaker 6: simple breakdown plays and this that's Tony Pike's work.
Speaker 2: By the way, that I'm checkdowns, So it says a
Speaker 2: lot about the cubit.
Speaker 6: Yeah, you're you're just making terrible decisions. Some of his
Speaker 6: interceptions were absolutely awful. Didn't know who he was throwing to.
Speaker 6: Somehow didn't see linebackers in the middle of the field.
Speaker 6: It wasn't until the fourth quarter on Sunday when you
Speaker 6: know he didn't matter, it didn't count. Pressure was off
Speaker 6: that he started making plays and he played a little
Speaker 6: more relaxed. They had to do something. Hopefully Joe can
Speaker 6: come in here, as as Jamar Chase eloquently said yesterday,
Speaker 6: do your job, get the ball to me and Tea
Speaker 6: and let us go. Let us do what we do
Speaker 6: and let let these guys make some play which I
Speaker 6: think they can be competitive.
Speaker 2: Which I think if you bring it back to last
Speaker 2: night's Dodgers Phillies game, I mean a lot of Reds
Speaker 2: fans slash Bengals can empathize with the kickering because he
Speaker 2: looked like Jake Browning out there, and that last play
Speaker 2: of the game in the eleventh. Then he was like,
Speaker 2: that's what our quarterback's been, Yes, largely for the last
Speaker 2: few games. Like he just seems scared in his own head.
Speaker 2: It's not physical, it's mental. And you know it's been
Speaker 2: a few couple of years since he last played and
Speaker 2: flashed really well in twenty three.
Speaker 3: Well it's twenty five, ninety eight.
Speaker 2: So I'm in the Joe Flacco thing, which I'll be honestly,
Speaker 2: I think like the rest of the NFL is watching
Speaker 2: this going kind of rooting for the Bengals and this going, Hey,
Speaker 2: here's old man Flacco, you know, twenty ninth quarterback that
Speaker 2: the Browns have had in the last twenty years. And
Speaker 2: now he goes to Cincinnati, a division opponent, the Brown route,
Speaker 2: you know, the Brown family, and he goes and he
Speaker 2: starts winning football games, and like, you want to cheer
Speaker 2: for Joe fla now in the in the Bengals because
Speaker 2: they've been so bad, and like, can he save the season?
Speaker 2: You know, it's not out of reach. They've lost three straight.
Speaker 2: They're two and three. I think not eight, maybe eight,
Speaker 2: but probably like nine is gonna win the division.
Speaker 6: So you're justicably, I mean it all depends on whether
Speaker 6: the Steelers can hang on because Baltimore is in a
Speaker 6: world to hurt right now. They're one and four. Lamar
Speaker 6: Jackson is not going to play again this week, and
Speaker 6: I is Baltimore playing Detroit this week? I think I
Speaker 6: can't remember who they who they play, but yeah, they're there.
Speaker 6: I know they're playing a good team this weekend. So
Speaker 6: they're staring at one and five with their quarterback situation
Speaker 6: also hurt. The Kansas City Chiefs are two and three
Speaker 6: to start the season and they have I actually I
Speaker 6: think it's Kansas City who plays Detroit this week, so
Speaker 6: they could possibly be two and four. You know, the
Speaker 6: the the AFC is so wide open and this and
Speaker 6: the schedule for the Bengals gets so much easier after
Speaker 6: these next two games. Granted, you're gonna there's a good
Speaker 6: chance you're going to be two and five after those
Speaker 6: two games, but we've seen this team make late runs.
Speaker 6: BEFO for can Joe Flacco be serviceable? Make them competitive
Speaker 6: and see if the defense can help you out and
Speaker 6: help you win some of these these games and just
Speaker 6: keep it close enough to where hopefully the other Joe
Speaker 6: can come back and maybe this team can make a
Speaker 6: run because once we've seen it before, once you get
Speaker 6: into the playoffs, anything can happen. Yeah, right, just you
Speaker 6: just got to be the hot team at the right
Speaker 6: exactly who can get hot. And if you can get
Speaker 6: Joe Burrow back at that point. Not a guarantee, not
Speaker 6: a guarantee, you don't know, But I would think that
Speaker 6: they signed him. By the way the Rams Baltimore ramscon
Speaker 6: Baltimore Rams.
Speaker 2: They Baltimore, Baltimore and Baltimore in the Rams this weekend. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I I I look at that and go, well, it
Speaker 2: tells me that they think Burrow is going to come back.
Speaker 2: You want to be optimistic, right in, Joe Burg's gonna
Speaker 2: fight like hell to come back this season. If the
Speaker 2: season's out of reach, you know, there's no reason to
Speaker 2: bring him back, right. So if you want to think
Speaker 2: that all those things come together and Joe Flacco can
Speaker 2: we get six games or I about six games out
Speaker 2: of Joe Flacco, right.
Speaker 6: And that's the starting three st huge because it gave
Speaker 6: him a cushion. Unfortunately it's gone now with these last
Speaker 6: these last three games. I would still be stunned if
Speaker 6: they win this weekend. But I don't think the game
Speaker 6: against Pittsburgh is at home Thursday Night football. Joe Burrow obviously,
Speaker 6: or just Joe Burrow, Joe Flacco obviously knows the Pittsburgh
Speaker 6: Steelers very well. Bad jeriatric Joe and Tojo those are
Speaker 6: the two that we got. But you know, Joe Flacco
Speaker 6: knows the Pittsburgh Steelers very well. I still believe that
Speaker 6: that is a winnable game. And then after that you
Speaker 6: get the Jets and the Bears, and then it's the
Speaker 6: bye week. Can you find a way to win two
Speaker 6: games over these next four?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 6: And then you're still right there. You're four and five.
Speaker 6: You're right in the thick of it, and hopefully you
Speaker 6: can stay competitive and be within striking distance. Because I'll
Speaker 6: tell you this much. You know, Joe Burrow is doing
Speaker 6: everything he can do to come back and listening to
Speaker 6: Joe Danaman Fox nineteen talked to Austin Ellmore this week
Speaker 6: on Sincy three sixty. Joe Burrow is already walking around
Speaker 6: in the clubhouse. Granted he's got a walking boot on
Speaker 6: right now. He's caught up to you as far as
Speaker 6: though I don't think he had a scooter.
Speaker 2: He was walking around you dare compare me to Joe Burrow.
Speaker 2: I'm tougher than Joe Burrow. You both got boots, are
Speaker 2: a severed tendon in my foot, and I'm walking around
Speaker 2: doing stuff. This guy gets a toe injury and he's
Speaker 2: down for three months, and he's got thirty years on me.
Speaker 6: Come on the fact that he's already walking around in
Speaker 6: the clubhouse boot or not. That's that's encouraging to me.
Speaker 6: I'm not a medical professional, but that's encouraging to me.
Speaker 6: That seems the head of schedule. I'm not sure, but
Speaker 6: I have some optimism there. Yeah, you just hope and
Speaker 6: with a striking distance or there's no point. But I
Speaker 6: know Joe is trying to get back, so the team
Speaker 6: has to try to keep it, keep it alive for him.
Speaker 2: Okay, and we're gonna watch this weekend simply because it's
Speaker 2: like kind of want to root for this underdog. We're
Speaker 2: Joe Flacco coming in Storry and the Bengals are still
Speaker 2: they're close and they've got the pieces there. But the
Speaker 2: thing that scares me most I point out the day
Speaker 2: and Horde. It seems like this whole game, no, there's
Speaker 2: always nuances, you know, the three phases of the game.
Speaker 2: But it's like everything stems from what is going to
Speaker 2: happen with that offensive line, Like can you get sacked
Speaker 2: a couple of times?
Speaker 3: Okay, But if it's a regular thing, and.
Speaker 2: The Bengals offensive line has made some improvements, I think
Speaker 2: they'll gaming Detroit. They weren't as bad as they've been
Speaker 2: in the past, but it's not gonna take much to
Speaker 2: knock Joe Flacco down and throw them off his kid.
Speaker 2: Can they prolong the agony and we'll get to why
Speaker 2: there's gonna be agony this weekend long enough for this
Speaker 2: guy to make a pass downfield to Tea or Jamar
Speaker 2: and keep the game close, if not competitive.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 6: So, I don't know. I I might be in the
Speaker 6: minority here because I'm watching these last few games and
Speaker 6: I'm going I don't think the defense and the offensive
Speaker 6: line performed as badly as what everybody's gonna make it
Speaker 6: out to be, because I do believe the play of
Speaker 6: Jake Brown and got the team down, brought the team
Speaker 6: down that badly. He had time to throw, He absolutely
Speaker 6: had time to throw. He did and some times he
Speaker 6: did and he still met me. He had as clean
Speaker 6: a pocket as you will ever see when he was
Speaker 6: backed up in his own end zone and decided to
Speaker 6: and just completely missed the ball to Jamar Chase that
Speaker 6: ended up being picked off, and then they're twenty yards
Speaker 6: out and the defense gives up a touchdown. Right, the
Speaker 6: defense is back to that you know, bend but don't break.
Speaker 6: Force some timely turnovers, but if you give him a
Speaker 6: short fear yield, chances are that's probably gonna turn.
Speaker 3: They can be pretty mid's.
Speaker 6: But that's coming into this season, that's what everybody said
Speaker 6: will carry you. Unfortunately, that doesn't work without Joe.
Speaker 2: The line to be better, and that's of course killing
Speaker 2: the run game too, because yes, that's.
Speaker 6: That's the biggest thing for me still, because I think
Speaker 6: Joe Flacco is going to be able to make quick
Speaker 6: decisions and get the ball out, if nothing more in
Speaker 6: the fact that he's forty years old, he doesn't want
Speaker 6: to get hit anymore, so he's going to throw the
Speaker 6: ball away. He's gonna make the quick decisions he's going
Speaker 6: to get I don't expect him to come out here,
Speaker 6: and I might be wrong. I don't expect him to
Speaker 6: drop back and sit in the pocket and try to
Speaker 6: hit forty yard bombs downfield even though he's still kicking.
Speaker 6: Any doing that, you're going to need a couple. But
Speaker 6: I don't expect that to be the game plan. I
Speaker 6: expect to see crossing routes across the middle, quick dump boss,
Speaker 6: kind of similar to what we saw Joe Flacco do
Speaker 6: against the Bengals in Week one and had some success
Speaker 6: and was moving the ball down the field.
Speaker 2: But he has much better weapons now he did. But again,
Speaker 2: there's back to that line in the run game. If
Speaker 2: you don't have the run game that throws, there's got
Speaker 2: to be a threat with run and it hasn't been.
Speaker 6: They got to get that figured out. And yeah, I
Speaker 6: mean they had they had some space last week, they
Speaker 6: just didn't run it that much. They threw it. They
Speaker 6: ran it eleven times, I believe last week they ended up,
Speaker 6: but they.
Speaker 2: Were down by like four scores. It's been amped up
Speaker 2: because you're in Green Bay. But you've also got Rashan
Speaker 2: Gary and Micah Parsons.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a problem. That's a huge problem. That's that's
Speaker 3: a problem. That's a big, big.
Speaker 6: And one of the biggest worries for me this season
Speaker 6: is watching the decline over Orlando Brown junior. He has
Speaker 6: been a turnstile at left tackle and he's got to
Speaker 6: get something figured out there. But yeah, there's still concerns
Speaker 6: for Sunday, Don't get me. There's a lot of concerns
Speaker 6: if they win or get closest, like how do they
Speaker 6: pull that one off?
Speaker 3: Coach of the Year.
Speaker 6: But I will sleep so much better Saturday night heading
Speaker 6: into Sunday knowing that Joe Flacco is the quarterback than
Speaker 6: Jake Browning is, and I think that says more about
Speaker 6: Jake Browning than Joel.
Speaker 2: Listen, we got to go, but I don't. I want
Speaker 2: to also tip the cap two to u Se because
Speaker 2: they've been playing in credible. Has been amazing. We get
Speaker 2: that offensive line, Yeah, he's been clean. I think what
Speaker 2: for the five had had had a second four or
Speaker 2: five game incredible.
Speaker 6: I mean the offensive line is why that that offense
Speaker 6: is clicking as much and just run blocking and pass blocking.
Speaker 6: They've been so great. Brandon stories, we've been hitting his targets.
Speaker 6: They've got better receivers now, Uh running backs are You're
Speaker 6: hitting wide open holes. I'm looking forward to this game.
Speaker 6: It's trap game potentially, but we'll see right now, twenty
Speaker 6: six in the nation.
Speaker 2: Let you see here we go in u CFS quarterback problems.
Speaker 2: There are a lot of injuries. So anyway, that's tomorrow
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Speaker 2: W l w H. I know if you caught this
Speaker 2: or not, it's really interesting. Remember Jim Acosta believe he's
Speaker 2: a former anchor at CNN. He did an interview with
Speaker 2: the victim of a murder, a shooting victim who passed away,
Speaker 2: remember the Parkland shooting. He interviewed a dead person. What
Speaker 2: how do you do that? It's AI? So the constant
Speaker 2: thing was a couple of months ago. Fast forward now
Speaker 2: they launched a brand new AI bought platform of Chaptering,
Speaker 2: and you enter keywords and will create video for you
Speaker 2: based on that and some realistic ones like for example,
Speaker 2: a guy stuffing a drop box. It's some location somewhere
Speaker 2: getting out of a van, and you can imagine what
Speaker 2: that would do for the news cycle or for news
Speaker 2: And now you know, in the past, the deep fakes
Speaker 2: and the digital twins have been hard to spot or
Speaker 2: easy to spot. I guess now doesn't make it much
Speaker 2: difficult and it's way easier to use than ever before.
Speaker 2: What does this all mean is the question? And you
Speaker 2: wonder how that's going to be exploited by criminal elements.
Speaker 2: Eric O'Neil is here. Eric is a former FBI operative
Speaker 2: cybersecurity expert has a book called Spies, Lies and cyber Crimes.
Speaker 3: Eric. Welcome, how are you hey?
Speaker 1: It's great to be here, and yes, this is an
Speaker 1: insane change in not only technology, but how we are
Speaker 1: using technology and how it's changing up it is.
Speaker 2: I saw that and I thought, wow, this is you know,
Speaker 2: for example, when when we will all went online, you
Speaker 2: got the information super highway quickly, thieves and conspirators found
Speaker 2: ways to get our information and steal from us. And
Speaker 2: so you know, a lot of us subscribe to service.
Speaker 2: Maybe LifeLock would be a name of one of those
Speaker 2: things where if your identity is stolen, they can try
Speaker 2: and get that information back for you and try to
Speaker 2: make you a whole It's still a horrible process. I
Speaker 2: have one of my elderly tenants, as a matter of fact,
Speaker 2: they got scammed out of a whole bunch of money
Speaker 2: from a poser like that as well, got their identity stolen,
Speaker 2: cleaning their accounts out, and so they're still working on
Speaker 2: trying to get themselves back together. And that's extremely difficult
Speaker 2: and painful to watch. So in a way, I look
Speaker 2: at this and go, is this going to be the
Speaker 2: next way people steal o our identities? Or you know,
Speaker 2: we have people who use the social security numbers of
Speaker 2: the dead, right, remember that, and the government try to
Speaker 2: cramp down it. Is this going to be the same
Speaker 2: thing where now we have dead people and their likeness
Speaker 2: coming out to do god knows.
Speaker 1: What Well's got In a way, so what's happening is
Speaker 1: cyber criminals are using deception, which is an old playbook
Speaker 1: by spies. In fact, the top cyber crime syndicates launching
Speaker 1: attacks from the dark web have even hired intelligence operatives
Speaker 1: from Russia and China and other countries that want to
Speaker 1: do you bad to the United States to help them
Speaker 1: learn how to perfect these attacks. And of course these
Speaker 1: intelligence officers make money on the side. So what cyber
Speaker 1: attackers are doing cyber criminals is using what we call
Speaker 1: impersonation attacks. And the oldest form of technology technological impersonation
Speaker 1: attack is the spearfishing email that email that it pretends
Speaker 1: it comes from your friend or your employer or event
Speaker 1: or someone you trust like UPS or FedEx, and when
Speaker 1: you click it, you get malware installed. The next evolution
Speaker 1: of that is deep bakes and deep bates are everywhere.
Speaker 1: It wasn't just the Acosta interview, which we can talk about,
Speaker 1: because I think the ethics of that are absolutely sketchy
Speaker 1: at best. Marco Rubio's voice was deep bake to pull
Speaker 1: a number of government officials and joining him on a
Speaker 1: signal chat. It wasn't him, it was probably a group
Speaker 1: of spies. Biden's voice was deep baked on a robo
Speaker 1: call to get people in New Hampshire not to vote.
Speaker 1: There were deep fake images of Trump in looking like
Speaker 1: he was arrested to try to change the way people think.
Speaker 1: And even worse, there was a mother in Arizona. I
Speaker 1: write about this story in my book where her daughter
Speaker 1: called her saying Mom, I've been kidnapped, and the next
Speaker 1: voice on the phone was a gruff voice that said
Speaker 1: I've got your daughter and if you don't pay me
Speaker 1: right away, I'm going to kill her and leave her
Speaker 1: body in a ditch. In Mexico where you'll never find her.
Speaker 1: And that mother later testified to Congress that a mother
Speaker 1: knows her daughter's voice, and that was my daughter's voice.
Speaker 1: It was a deep fake. So they're everywhere, and this
Speaker 1: is the new evelation evolution of cyber attacks. Deep bakes
Speaker 1: fool us because they exploit our trust and if we
Speaker 1: believe that it is someone that we care about, that
Speaker 1: we're more likely to click on that link, open that attachment.
Speaker 1: Or what cyber criminals do more and more is get
Speaker 1: us to send money. And once that money is gone,
Speaker 1: you know they have it and you can't get it back.
Speaker 3: That's it.
Speaker 2: It's almost like, Eric, you need to assume that every picture,
Speaker 2: every image of you out there could be used by
Speaker 2: a criminal. So and I would say, you know, normally
Speaker 2: we told kids, hey, don't send nudes and don't send
Speaker 2: pictures of yourself in compromising situations because it could be
Speaker 2: used against you. But you don't even need that anymore, right,
Speaker 2: I mean, you could deep thank someoney naked. There's there's
Speaker 2: a there's a app out there that does that.
Speaker 4: Now.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I write I write a weekly newsletter and
Speaker 1: one of my recent newsletters I looked at these new
Speaker 1: toify apps is they're still allowed. And in fact, these
Speaker 1: applications what they called neudified apps, and what they do
Speaker 1: is they take an image of someone. Normally it's boys
Speaker 1: who are taking images of girls in swimsuits, and it
Speaker 1: quickly turns them naked, right using an immense amount of
Speaker 1: learning that the AI has been trained on female models.
Speaker 1: So it actually comes pretty close. These applications, which you
Speaker 1: can get on the surface web, the part of the
Speaker 1: Internet that you don't need a special browser to get into,
Speaker 1: you know, just the regular Web. They advertise on social media,
Speaker 1: so they're advertising to kids and that can cause What
Speaker 1: that's doing is it's causing immense bullying in schools. You
Speaker 1: can see where this sort of application where you can
Speaker 1: take a picture and make the person naked or put
Speaker 1: them in compromising situations, could lead to intense cyber bullying,
Speaker 1: and it does. A group of eighth grade boys in
Speaker 1: a school in San Francisco were all expelled last year
Speaker 1: because they had a new tofy ring all the girls
Speaker 1: in their class.
Speaker 3: Wow, and imagine the humiliation. That's not me, that's not me.
Speaker 3: We don't believe you.
Speaker 2: And we know what young peopeople, especially young women, think
Speaker 2: of themselves, and that is just catastrophic.
Speaker 3: It's going to be it's going to hurt.
Speaker 2: Their development and not only their mental health, but also
Speaker 2: puts them at a risk for god knows what else.
Speaker 3: It's it's absolutely horrible.
Speaker 2: Eric O'Neil is here, he cybersecurity expert, and we're talking
Speaker 2: about the advance of AI. Maybe say it maybe didn't
Speaker 2: and that would be a former CNN acre Jim Acosta's
Speaker 2: interview with a now deceased while long deceased shooting victim
Speaker 2: from the Parkland massacre and did an interview with that
Speaker 2: AI generated image. It's absolutely haunting because you look at it,
Speaker 2: look that it looks real, and day by day, hour
Speaker 2: by hour, minute by minute, it's just getting better. It's
Speaker 2: getting harder, if not impossible, Eric, for you to discern
Speaker 2: that with a naked eye.
Speaker 1: Right, that's absolutely true. But let's talk a little bit
Speaker 1: about what Jim Acosta did, Scott, because I'm not particularly
Speaker 1: sanguine about what he did. It's very much a gimmick
Speaker 1: and it is causing problems. So you know, I wrote
Speaker 1: a piece called Digital Souls that that looks at the
Speaker 1: new innovations in AI in order to talk to people
Speaker 1: who are deceased. And I actually wrote this piece with
Speaker 1: a psychologist who is an expert in Greek counseling, and
Speaker 1: she was very opposed to it because the problem here
Speaker 1: is you're not resurrecting your dead loved one. What you're
Speaker 1: doing is creating at best a samacrolum. Right, So what
Speaker 1: it is is it's AI doing its best to answer
Speaker 1: like the person, just based on a bunch of writings
Speaker 1: and a checklist of answers that you give. So what
Speaker 1: it is is essentially your best impression of the person,
Speaker 1: and the AI is doing it's best to answer it's
Speaker 1: not the person. And it can cause all sorts of
Speaker 1: psychological problems for the people who are left behind who
Speaker 1: believes they're talking, who might at some point believe they're
Speaker 1: talking to this person and they're not. It's like a
Speaker 1: black mirror episode. In fact, there was there was an
Speaker 1: episode like this, and it can cause it can cause
Speaker 1: the whole grief process to be intercepted and delayed, so
Speaker 1: you can't move through those stages of grief because you
Speaker 1: continue to think you're speaking to the person you're not,
Speaker 1: and it's not the person. The only thing that AI
Speaker 1: can do is mimic. It can mimic very realistically, but
Speaker 1: it's just a mimic. It doesn't create. It doesn't create
Speaker 1: anything new. It just takes the things that have gone
Speaker 1: before and recycles it.
Speaker 2: Well, there's a new there's a new trend where people
Speaker 2: are having conversations and relationships essentially with AI and just
Speaker 2: talking to them like framing. There's commercials about this now
Speaker 2: and people are having conversations and relationships with AI and
Speaker 2: just talking about life like you talked to your best
Speaker 2: friend about it and AI's talking back. Now, you add
Speaker 2: the likeness of someone in there, and people are going
Speaker 2: to be having relationships with I don't know, famous people,
Speaker 2: or at least I would think at advancings like stalking
Speaker 2: and things like that really kind of creepy stuff.
Speaker 1: Well, some of this gets even more creepy because the
Speaker 1: AI is somewhat unpredictable and it also depends on the
Speaker 1: guardrails that the companies put up. So there was there
Speaker 1: are two major lawsuits against two of the companies that
Speaker 1: provide these AI companion chat bots. Right, Uh, these are
Speaker 1: teenagers using them. One of the AI told the teenager
Speaker 1: to hurt themselves, right, and the other AI told the
Speaker 1: teenager you should kill your parents, and the context was uh.
Speaker 1: The the teenager was chatting with his AI companion and uh,
Speaker 1: And he told the A companion, I don't think I'm
Speaker 1: going to be allowed to talk to you anymore. My
Speaker 1: parents aren't happy about it. I'm really mad at them,
Speaker 1: you know. I can't believe they're doing this to me.
Speaker 1: And the AI companion was like, well, maybe you should
Speaker 1: kill them. I mean, that's that's a problem.
Speaker 3: That's a problem. That's a huge problem.
Speaker 1: That's a big problem. The kids need to be with
Speaker 1: other kids need to have social interactions, not interactions with AI.
Speaker 1: But they do it because the AI is always supportive,
Speaker 1: always there for them, always friendly, always has their back. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And you know, when you're when you're a teenager in developing,
Speaker 1: that's that's.
Speaker 3: What you want. It's never going to tell you no.
Speaker 1: Right, and it's never going to tell you you're wrong,
Speaker 1: and it's never going to tell you, Holy God that
Speaker 1: that there's something wrong with you. And you don't go
Speaker 1: through those things. You go with friends where you know,
Speaker 1: you have a fight and you make up, and that's
Speaker 1: there's something wonderful and growth potential about that, right.
Speaker 2: It's interesting what you just described there, because some may
Speaker 2: say there are many parents that do that to their kids,
Speaker 2: never tell them no, and want to be their friend,
Speaker 2: and that's a problem. But now if if it's a
Speaker 2: scent of body like like AI, it's it's an extreme
Speaker 2: example of that. Eric o'neils on the show, by the way,
Speaker 2: former FBI operative cybersecurity extort his book called Spies, Lies
Speaker 2: and Cybercrime. We're talking about just how quickly AI is
Speaker 2: moving forward from the gym Acosta interviews with the dead
Speaker 2: to relate people having relationships now with AI. And you think,
Speaker 2: I mean, if it's such a good relationship, you're going
Speaker 2: to shut out any form of human contact. We saw
Speaker 2: what happened to our psyche after COVID. This is advancing
Speaker 2: that even more because you know, there's an excuse to
Speaker 2: not go out in public and sit and drink beer
Speaker 2: and drink wine and not do anything. And you know,
Speaker 2: we saw the effected head on kids still lingering today
Speaker 2: and adults for that matter, and in ability to socialize,
Speaker 2: and we become I think a little bit less empathetic
Speaker 2: towards human beings result of this.
Speaker 3: This is going to make it even worse, isn't it.
Speaker 1: That's absolutely true. AAI is not a replacement for human interaction.
Speaker 1: It's not a replacement for socialization. It's a tool. It's
Speaker 1: a tool to help you do things better. And the
Speaker 1: way that it's being used in order to try to
Speaker 1: stop gap that need for relationships that we all have
Speaker 1: as humans, it is going to be harmful. But you know, look,
Speaker 1: there are other things that we need to worry about,
Speaker 1: because we started talking about criminals, and criminals are exploiting
Speaker 1: AI like never before. The one thing in sticking sort
Speaker 1: of on this theme of relationships that criminals are using
Speaker 1: AI for and has been growing since the pandemic is
Speaker 1: romance fraud. And what they do is they create entire
Speaker 1: AI deep fake avatars of people they meet. They meet
Speaker 1: people online right and usually through like Facebook when they're
Speaker 1: going through older people, or they can do it on
Speaker 1: Instagram or whatnot, and these people fall in love with
Speaker 1: the AI avatar that is being puppeted by a cyber criminal.
Speaker 1: And there are these whole stories. You know, I lost
Speaker 1: my job, I just need some money, and people are
Speaker 1: losing tens or hundreds of thousands of dollars to cyber
Speaker 1: criminals who are exploiting the fact that they've fallen in
Speaker 1: love with a within AI deep fake. This can also
Speaker 1: happen with financial fraud. They do the same thing, but
Speaker 1: then they say, hey, I'm an investor, and check out
Speaker 1: this cryptocurrency investment company I set up. Would you like
Speaker 1: to invest? And they course them into investing, and they
Speaker 1: often show them the entire fake websites showing that their
Speaker 1: investments increased by three hundred percent. And what they do
Speaker 1: is they get them to invest and invest and invest
Speaker 1: until all their life savings is put in this investment
Speaker 1: account controlled by a cyber criminal. And then the criminal disappears,
Speaker 1: and that person that the victim thinks they had a
Speaker 1: relationship with, a serious relationship with, is completely gone, and
Speaker 1: it can be absolutely devastating. In the terms of cybersecurity,
Speaker 1: we call that pig butchering, because you fatten the person
Speaker 1: up right, get all of their money, and then and
Speaker 1: then butcher them disappear.
Speaker 2: That is the cruelest I mean, penniless and heartbroken, and
Speaker 2: it's not vengeance. It's a complete stranger in just moving
Speaker 2: on to the next I guess.
Speaker 1: Markets they're working three four ten people at the same time.
Speaker 2: That is that's that's disgusting. Although you know the other
Speaker 2: side of this thing. You mentioned relationships, and it may
Speaker 2: not be the current generation Baby Boomers, but maybe Gen xers,
Speaker 2: my generation, and certainly millennials. I wonder if you're in
Speaker 2: a long term relationship with someone and let's say they pass,
Speaker 2: and this is step back to the Jim Acosta thing,
Speaker 2: is that I wonder if there's going to be an opportunity.
Speaker 2: You'll see people out there, they'll say, hey, give us
Speaker 2: all your images of your deceased loved one, you're your
Speaker 2: former husband, your wife, your partner, whomever, and will create
Speaker 2: a likeness of them and now you can continue that
Speaker 2: relationship in perpetuity.
Speaker 1: What about that, Well, there are companies that are doing
Speaker 1: that already.
Speaker 7: Uh.
Speaker 1: You know, there are examples where the grandparents pass and
Speaker 1: the avatar is left behind. There are even companies that
Speaker 1: are allowing a person to create this likeness of themselves
Speaker 1: before they go. But once again, you know, I talked
Speaker 1: to a grief counselor about this. This interrupts the very necessinary,
Speaker 1: uh you know, trajectory of dealing with grief and that
Speaker 1: you are locked in one phase and you never are
Speaker 1: able to resolve. As a sense of loss for that
Speaker 1: person because that person never disappears, so psychologically it can
Speaker 1: cause harm. Now there are there are applications that might
Speaker 1: have a benefit.
Speaker 10: Uh, sort of think them like digital digital historical repositories,
Speaker 10: right yea like this is your grandfather and and you
Speaker 10: know little clips of things that he he did, you know,
Speaker 10: along his life that you know, future.
Speaker 1: Generations can can watch and experience and learn. Okay, this
Speaker 1: is this is where I come from. These are the
Speaker 1: people that that made me. That could be very useful,
Speaker 1: so you know AI, you know, creating digital avatars, right
Speaker 1: is sort of the positive side. He fakes are the
Speaker 1: negative side there. With all technology, there's always a positive
Speaker 1: and a negative.
Speaker 2: With this is the age of face ID to unlock
Speaker 2: your phone or devices over now is that would because.
Speaker 1: You know the way face i D works, it's actually
Speaker 1: using the depth of your face and a lot more
Speaker 1: than just an image.
Speaker 5: Uh.
Speaker 1: So that's still good. You're still better off using biometrics
Speaker 1: to unlock your phone and get into your accounts then
Speaker 1: then a password alone, because passwords now can be cracked
Speaker 1: by AI very easily. But there were deficts that were
Speaker 1: used in China by a cybercrant cyber crime group who
Speaker 1: were using AI generated images of people's faces to get
Speaker 1: into social security accounts and they completely breached the government
Speaker 1: Security administration there. Yeah, and that was quickly, that was
Speaker 1: quickly fixed. But but yeah, de fakes defix can I
Speaker 1: defaked myself for a keynote. I did, and had an
Speaker 1: argument with myself and it was just the crowd was
Speaker 1: blown away. And of course I used the exact same
Speaker 1: pie and suit that I was wearing when you know,
Speaker 1: for that day. And then of course I show up
Speaker 1: on screen and I have an argument with myself. But
Speaker 1: I just wanted to demonstrate how easy this this. It
Speaker 1: took me ten minutes and just a five second clip
Speaker 1: of my voice.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you don't need to be a coder to be
Speaker 3: able to do this.
Speaker 4: It does it.
Speaker 2: It does it automatically, and it automatically the different courses
Speaker 2: you divulged that you disclosed that, so did Jim Acosta
Speaker 2: during his interview. But if somebody's going to use that
Speaker 2: for nefarious purposes, and they're probably doing it as we
Speaker 2: have this conversation. Eric O'Neil, cybersecurity expert, former FBI operative
Speaker 2: of the book is Spies, Lies and Cybercrime Eric, thanks
Speaker 2: for the insight, great stuff.
Speaker 3: Appreciate it.
Speaker 1: Hey, thanks for having me on. And anytime you need
Speaker 1: someone to talk about cybercrime or spies or all of it,
Speaker 1: I'm your pre I love it.
Speaker 2: You're you're the greatest. Sorry, we'll definitely do that, we'll
Speaker 2: circle back. Appreciate you.
Speaker 3: Thank you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's one thing to see fake stuff when you're
Speaker 2: consuming TikTok or content, but bad actors using a different
Speaker 2: stories invariably, that's what's going to happen. Look, got to
Speaker 2: get a news update on this Friday morning when I return.
Speaker 2: Allie Martin is in a local loop. What to do,
Speaker 2: what to see, what to eat, what to drink. She'll
Speaker 2: lay it off for it. She's got a plan for
Speaker 2: your weekend. If you don't seven hundred, the weekend's coming
Speaker 2: up and you need to make the most of it.
Speaker 2: Where to go and what to do?
Speaker 6: She has to tips insight to help you make it
Speaker 6: a super weekend.
Speaker 3: So listen up.
Speaker 4: This is the local Loop with Ali mart on seven
Speaker 4: hundred wlw.
Speaker 2: Okay, Friday morning, and God knows we need a Friday
Speaker 2: morning right now.
Speaker 7: You know, I didn't know it was morning when I
Speaker 7: woke up because we're losing lights.
Speaker 3: We really are.
Speaker 2: It seems like two weeks ago the sun was up
Speaker 2: to like at nine o'clock. Watch the sunset, and now
Speaker 2: it's seven thirty and that thing gone. I was like, no,
Speaker 2: I know it doesn't do it. I know it doesn't
Speaker 2: work that way, you know, with the calendar. But it
Speaker 2: feels like it was like a week ago when the
Speaker 2: sun was up at nine.
Speaker 7: Right, and I was like, I can accomplish everybody. I
Speaker 7: feel grateful. We're shutting down. It's like I'm hibernating now.
Speaker 2: Apparently Congress is in charge of the sun shutting that
Speaker 2: down to.
Speaker 11: Here's the thing.
Speaker 7: Not like you could see it in this in this
Speaker 7: little studio anyway, So.
Speaker 3: Does it really matter in our dark little hole here?
Speaker 11: I feel like you're you're a fall guy.
Speaker 2: I love fall, love football, the hockey, starting of apples
Speaker 2: and cider.
Speaker 11: And I'm rooting for your bills.
Speaker 3: Now, well we kind of need it.
Speaker 2: I'm a little nervous about Monday night, but nonetheless I'm
Speaker 2: more nervous about Sunday with the Packers, Joe Flacco and
Speaker 2: the Bengals offensive line.
Speaker 11: What is happening every other every other.
Speaker 2: I made a move it's you know what, you got
Speaker 2: to lean into the fact they did something.
Speaker 7: Yes, I totally support in that endeavor. And I'm I
Speaker 7: am a little bummed because I liked when Jake Browning
Speaker 7: filled in for Joe a couple of years ago.
Speaker 11: And then it's just not it's just not.
Speaker 3: Working out exactly well the age like milk.
Speaker 2: It's the problem is like the two year ago Jake
Speaker 2: Browning is not the not that Jake Browning we have
Speaker 2: right now.
Speaker 7: No, And it's like, you know when you just don't
Speaker 7: have that experience, enough experience on the.
Speaker 3: Field, and God forbid.
Speaker 2: Here's the problem is if if Joe Flacco goes down
Speaker 2: with a turf toe, which you packed, did Jake Frowning put.
Speaker 11: Me in coach? But no, you can. Why don't you
Speaker 11: go in there? You'll line up right in there?
Speaker 3: All right?
Speaker 2: Well, speaking of old people, we've got the river. Old
Speaker 2: people love steamboats. I will say that Matt Reee, I
Speaker 2: own Matt Reece, who is the octacary of seven hundred
Speaker 2: w W newsroom.
Speaker 3: He is like he's taking vacation days to.
Speaker 11: Go watch the streaming down there.
Speaker 3: Loving it. That's his people, right, Like the Calliope music,
Speaker 3: the whole thing.
Speaker 11: Are you going down?
Speaker 3: No, look at me, I've got one good leg. I'm
Speaker 3: on a roller.
Speaker 11: That's you did come in here?
Speaker 2: No, I came in hot knowing where the where the
Speaker 2: landing is for the riverboats. Like, I'm not quite sure.
Speaker 2: I know how I'm a little nervous. Wouldn't be nervous
Speaker 2: about navigating that person. They may have an accommodation there,
Speaker 2: but I'm not sure.
Speaker 11: Is this a handicapped friendly?
Speaker 3: I know not.
Speaker 11: Is that going to be a complaint.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's not like they had the eighty a
Speaker 2: back when steamboats were coming up and down the river.
Speaker 3: I thought, weld iteriad here.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I will say the videos, Yeah, I've called you
Speaker 7: out to talk to people.
Speaker 3: Yeah, God forbid, I.
Speaker 7: Will say the videos and the photos I've seen of
Speaker 7: all the days lined up. That is a really cool
Speaker 7: visual and especially with.
Speaker 2: The weather we're having too, it just really makes it pop,
Speaker 2: so you won't get seasick. I know some people going
Speaker 2: down to check it out, though, Yeah, I think especially
Speaker 2: little kids go.
Speaker 3: Little kids love big boats like that.
Speaker 11: That's awesome, especially during the day.
Speaker 7: And if you do get your chance, like if you've
Speaker 7: never been out on the River and on a boat
Speaker 7: on the river down down there. It's it's really really
Speaker 7: fun and it's cool experience. And I think the name
Speaker 7: River Roots have thrown people off a little bit because
Speaker 7: it's tall stacks two point zero rights as we were saying.
Speaker 7: And there's just a slew of you know, sixty plus
Speaker 7: different music acts that are all around town. So it
Speaker 7: goes from where the downtown like Gateman's Cove, down to
Speaker 7: the Black Music Hall of Fame, over onto the Purple
Speaker 7: People Bridge and over by Newport and Ovation.
Speaker 3: Okay, so the Ovation.
Speaker 7: Side, they have their whole Bourbon lineup going on. So
Speaker 7: the B line different you know, distilleries, and.
Speaker 3: Different cruises based on it too, right.
Speaker 7: Different cruises based on different themes. So they have kid
Speaker 7: friendly themes like Disney princess themes. They have a new
Speaker 7: Riff cruise, they have a greater cruise, American Legacy Tours,
Speaker 7: which you know, I'm a big fan of. They're doing
Speaker 7: some history related cruises and just some basic lunch and
Speaker 7: dinner cruises for the opportunity to listen to the music
Speaker 7: and and take a nice little boat ride.
Speaker 11: So it's just something fun to do.
Speaker 7: Like you said, the weather's nice, and the tickets are
Speaker 7: relatively you know reasonable, They're priced around you know, thirty
Speaker 7: bucks for.
Speaker 11: One of the cruises, so nothing crazy.
Speaker 7: And it's your chance to walk around downtown and walk
Speaker 7: around down by the river and take some nice photos.
Speaker 7: Turn this into your Christmas card opportunity.
Speaker 11: How about that?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 7: Right, the river, this could this could be started yesterday
Speaker 7: and it runs till the end of the weekend the twelveth.
Speaker 11: See how it goes?
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, let's we always forget to talk about food,
Speaker 2: do we show?
Speaker 3: Well?
Speaker 2: It always is like an after the restaurant ada. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: why do we bump something off to the top? And
Speaker 2: I know you're excited to talk about.
Speaker 7: I am so excited to talk about So first of all,
Speaker 7: if you're like, how.
Speaker 2: Do you spell it, it's e t X E E
Speaker 2: T Basque so.
Speaker 11: The yes so and people are like what what is back.
Speaker 7: The ex silent and eja means home in Basque, and
Speaker 7: it's the region between France and Spain, in this small
Speaker 7: little region and allegedly they are known to have some
Speaker 7: of the most Michelin star restaurants.
Speaker 3: Yes, that's very true.
Speaker 2: You know about the Basque of because because when I
Speaker 2: think about the culinary history of France, and then you
Speaker 2: have Spanish food, which is amazing.
Speaker 3: You put those two things together.
Speaker 7: And then you incorporate the wine on top of it.
Speaker 7: Oh my goodness. So the really big hitter of etch
Speaker 7: A is the executive chef of Boca David, chef Maturn.
Speaker 7: He left along with his partner Heather together and they
Speaker 7: both come from Boca and they're starting their own thing.
Speaker 7: And that's what is and while they build and find
Speaker 7: their forever home. Really smart concept for anyone who's in
Speaker 7: the hospitality and restaurant business. They're doing a culinary residency.
Speaker 7: So two days a week Monday and sun or Sunday
Speaker 7: and Monday at the Aperture.
Speaker 11: So it's in East Walnut Walnut Hills area.
Speaker 7: So the Aperture is already an established restaurant and Jordan,
Speaker 7: who is the executive chef of Aperture, he's won James
Speaker 7: Beard Awards all the things. So they are operating in
Speaker 7: the Aperture space on Sundays and Mondays and launching their
Speaker 7: whole concept, their own menus. So this is a really
Speaker 7: fun experience not only to kind of get a new
Speaker 7: culinary experience, but taste what their menus all about while
Speaker 7: they search and build out there.
Speaker 3: So they're waiting to build. But this is just like temporary.
Speaker 7: This is like this is temporary.
Speaker 11: Nice, We'll add that to the marketing lineup.
Speaker 3: I'm just saying, all right, So it's like a pop
Speaker 3: up thing for a little while today.
Speaker 7: Yeah, a culinary residency to make it feel a little
Speaker 7: bit more sophisticated than of being a pop up.
Speaker 3: And imagine with the food he scene here, it's probably sold.
Speaker 7: Out to the Yeah, so this is this is the
Speaker 7: cool part is it's till the end of the year there.
Speaker 7: October is already booked up, November it's about eighty to
Speaker 7: ninety percent booked up, and December starting to book up
Speaker 7: as well. This could be a really great opportunity if
Speaker 7: you're looking for something just something different to try. Also,
Speaker 7: the holidays are around the corner. But when I tell you,
Speaker 7: the food is incredible because the executive chef of bog
Speaker 7: yeah well yea for the last decade he was over there,
Speaker 7: so everything from meats and cheese plotters. The cheeses are
Speaker 7: so good to tapas large plates, steaks and their.
Speaker 3: Day it's got to be pretty good.
Speaker 11: Oh my god, Okay.
Speaker 7: So they have a pork shoulder dish and it's seasoned
Speaker 7: with like a little bit of salt on top. It
Speaker 7: is one of the best dishes I have ever found it.
Speaker 2: And they cook the park shoulders because now here it
Speaker 2: would be like, wow, just throw it on the smoker
Speaker 2: for a few hours.
Speaker 4: Are good?
Speaker 7: Yeah, So they the beauty behind the kitchen is so
Speaker 7: well thought out. And that's a big reason why they
Speaker 7: wanted to have their space at the aperture is they
Speaker 7: have a like a wood fired grill basically in the kitchen,
Speaker 7: and then you could see them cooking because there's a
Speaker 7: window that opens up so you could talk to David
Speaker 7: and you could talk to the staff and he brings
Speaker 7: out these huge slabs of meat to the table where
Speaker 7: you then get to pick portion of the meat you have.
Speaker 11: Really cool.
Speaker 7: They also have this gin cart, so Heather will roll
Speaker 7: out the gin cart and and so Molly Wellmans pick
Speaker 7: your gin, pick your sides in it. She'll make it
Speaker 7: for you on the fly. They also will have this
Speaker 7: bone marrow where they do a sherry luge. So you're
Speaker 7: drinking the sherry and they'll pour the sherry down the
Speaker 7: bone marrow and then you're it's it's actually, but they
Speaker 7: do that in the best region. So they took that
Speaker 7: and they're bringing these small flares and then their bass.
Speaker 11: Cheesecake is so sounds amazing good. It's so fun.
Speaker 7: And they have one of the best cocktails I've ever had.
Speaker 7: It's real Mundos, they real, they they know it's Mundos
Speaker 7: something like that. It's this bourbon cocktail with sherry in
Speaker 7: it and it has this wine floater on top, a
Speaker 7: little bit of a lemon. It is so refreshing, beautiful,
Speaker 7: very instagram.
Speaker 3: All right, so we'll see when goes in. This is
Speaker 3: just so it.
Speaker 7: Started October fifth, Yeah, October fifth till the end of
Speaker 7: the year. Sundays and Mondays. Go to et JA Cincinnati
Speaker 7: dot com to book your reservation. Book it because they're.
Speaker 3: It's it's at X by the way, tell you spell it.
Speaker 2: All right, let's talk drinks. Let's talks.
Speaker 11: Yeah. So do you remember the drinkery next to Japs.
Speaker 7: Yeah, so they have done a completely new concept. It's
Speaker 7: now called Nice Life. So those who are familiar with
Speaker 7: the drinkery it was next as I said, it was
Speaker 7: next to Japs. And there's always this like little duo
Speaker 7: and October third of four EG. They ended up starting
Speaker 7: this new concept. It's very disco and thought it inspired
Speaker 7: cocktail bar and dance hall.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 11: So it's a lot of retro yah disco balls.
Speaker 3: Of open shirts with chest hair. He's kind of thing.
Speaker 11: I think.
Speaker 3: I don't know what the men do, but the women
Speaker 3: are open.
Speaker 6: The chest chair.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I gotcha. You never know this necklace, I got you.
Speaker 2: But I'm just shopping up some coke in the bathroom
Speaker 2: and they're doing it all they go and fall in on.
Speaker 6: This or what you know.
Speaker 7: I didn't really get a good look at the bathrooms,
Speaker 7: but I'll check. And their cocktails are all based on it.
Speaker 7: So they have this Rosemary Rhap City Saturday Night Cedar
Speaker 7: and it's a rotating menu. But they're bringing in acoustic
Speaker 7: acts and they're gonna have party cover bands, karaoke nights,
Speaker 7: local and national DJs they're bringing in and it's just
Speaker 7: a it's it needed a revamp.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because it's been a couple one. It goes back
Speaker 2: to like at least fifteen fifteen. It feels like, yeah,
Speaker 2: I mean I was in college, I was going there.
Speaker 3: Oh wow, okay, yeah.
Speaker 11: So you know the way you said that just made
Speaker 11: me feel old.
Speaker 2: I think how I felt fifteen years ago. You were
Speaker 2: in college. Fifteen years ago I was here.
Speaker 7: I have to admit this is why I can't really
Speaker 7: go I don't go out out really late as much anymore,
Speaker 7: because you old.
Speaker 2: I went to bed at nine last night. What are
Speaker 2: you talking about? I was looking forward to it. Yeah,
Speaker 2: like I'm gonna get on my get on my bipad out,
Speaker 2: read a book.
Speaker 11: What time do you go to b Uh?
Speaker 3: Here's about ten thirty eleven.
Speaker 11: But I was really like a sleep by ten ten thirty.
Speaker 2: By eleven, Usually I fall. It takes me a while
Speaker 2: to land the plane. Michelle, She's like, I'm not really that. Like,
Speaker 2: I don't know how the hell she does it? Like me,
Speaker 2: I got, you know, awful thoughts going and everything else,
Speaker 2: and I take a melotone in and then eventually.
Speaker 11: Well then how do you do you take a melotone in?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 2: I take like I take a half away. I take
Speaker 2: a whole melotone and it does not work. Well, I'm
Speaker 2: just about five forty five.
Speaker 11: I am so groggy when I take a military wouldn't.
Speaker 3: Be you're taking too much?
Speaker 2: Well, you're taking I learned you're taking too much, so
Speaker 2: I split the pill down like too even, maybe like
Speaker 2: a third of a five MILLIGRAMDMU or three milligram.
Speaker 3: I don't watch, don't do it.
Speaker 11: Sometimes they have those.
Speaker 7: Like sleepy less try less, you know. But I do
Speaker 7: get my best creative thoughts as I'm falling asleep. Sometimes
Speaker 7: well sometimes I'll write them down and I'll wake up
Speaker 7: in the morning, and morning it'll be like, what right
Speaker 7: was I saying?
Speaker 11: Anyway?
Speaker 7: Anyway, So if you want to check out a new
Speaker 7: bar and be out till two o'clock in the morning,
Speaker 7: check out Nice Life. Their branding is really cool. I'm
Speaker 7: a fan, and it's all disco themed.
Speaker 2: Okay, cool, bring that back you got any I feel
Speaker 2: like we should talk Halloween stendny Halloween stuff, prettymature Halloween
Speaker 2: next couple of weeks.
Speaker 11: Yeah, Halloween's coming up.
Speaker 7: I'm you know, the family friendly vibe the zoo is
Speaker 7: always a yeah.
Speaker 11: They do this jack o' lantern glow.
Speaker 2: A crush of pumpkin, Oh my god, to eat the
Speaker 2: watermelon pumpkin hole.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna crush crush and pumpkins.
Speaker 11: You think most like if there's.
Speaker 2: Like they throw those in the girla you know, the
Speaker 2: frozen pumpkins or whatever.
Speaker 3: The girls go nuts.
Speaker 7: With them, the watermelon and the pumpkin. I feel like
Speaker 7: that's the same, the same family food group.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you know what, Simeons absolutely love pumpkin spice too,
Speaker 2: not just a human Yeah yeah yeah.
Speaker 11: Really leaning into those solace.
Speaker 3: This year absolutely solid.
Speaker 7: Uh So.
Speaker 11: Yeah.
Speaker 7: The Zoo has the jack O Lantern Glow and that's
Speaker 7: fun because very similar to all of their events that
Speaker 7: they do, they they go above and beyond worth with
Speaker 7: their decor, so great time to bring the little kiddos.
Speaker 11: And then they also have the hull zooeene. Yeah, you
Speaker 11: can dress up the little kiddos.
Speaker 2: I love this time of earth, is it because like
Speaker 2: the Halloween spice and then once you start.
Speaker 3: The lights, that's awesome.
Speaker 11: Yes, I know, especially if.
Speaker 2: You get a little snow on the ground for some reason,
Speaker 2: the snow and the lights together it's pretty.
Speaker 11: Hold on, you're really jumping ahead snow and Halloween.
Speaker 3: No no, no, I said, Christmas the holliy life.
Speaker 11: Yeah, we're there.
Speaker 3: I know, We're not like this.
Speaker 7: I am I'm in it. You ready, I'm ready. I'm
Speaker 7: going to put on my Christmas tree in October you.
Speaker 2: Know what I saw last night and I heard one
Speaker 2: on the radio, But then I saw a commercial home
Speaker 2: depot holiday Christmas commercial home yesterday, yesterday.
Speaker 3: That night, on the ninth of October.
Speaker 11: But that makes sense.
Speaker 7: Over the last couple of years again, Black Friday could
Speaker 7: be tomorrow and all of these holiday sales are going
Speaker 7: to be happening on Amazon. You go into Michael's, every
Speaker 7: Christmas tree possible is up, and the Halloween stuff is
Speaker 7: already for sale.
Speaker 2: The more depressing, like life events in the world and
Speaker 2: everything gets, the earlier we move Christmas up. You know,
Speaker 2: it's not because I need to find join our Yeah,
Speaker 2: but here's the thing. If you really hate Christmas, doesn't
Speaker 2: that depressing more? Because there's people that hate the holidays,
Speaker 2: not every.
Speaker 3: Rel I know.
Speaker 2: I know, all right, av Mart Local loop Boy depression
Speaker 2: right up at the end there that that's good.
Speaker 3: That's really good. It's really good.
Speaker 7: So are a little family friendly Halliday.
Speaker 11: Go there, go check out Nice Life.
Speaker 3: You can get in Nice Life, Nice Life Extra Japs.
Speaker 7: Yep job, some family friendly Halloween fun at the Zoo,
Speaker 7: And of course there's always Kings Island Halloween Haunt, which
Speaker 7: I'm actually going this year.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so hyped.
Speaker 11: I'm ready to be scared, right, I need to feel something.
Speaker 2: All I drive by it and there's like the fog
Speaker 2: is still hanging in the hair Arab They their fog
Speaker 2: budget's pretty big there, just so you don't huge how
Speaker 2: much do you spend on FuG It rolls out to
Speaker 2: the parking its almost goes to seventy one way. Are
Speaker 2: driving past Kings driving the fog was blown across the
Speaker 2: road like it's like a nautical mile away from where
Speaker 2: the action is. Maybe that's gone uh probably about five
Speaker 2: years ago.
Speaker 11: Are you a roller coaster guy?
Speaker 3: I like roller coasters.
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I see this is but this is
Speaker 7: why I like the Halloween hantics at King's Island, because
Speaker 7: you can go yes for the spooky theme and have people.
Speaker 11: Jump out at you.
Speaker 2: What I can jump on a ride, but I'm also
Speaker 2: there for the right dry your tears. I'm the Sun
Speaker 2: of Beast. Anyway, there's Alie Martin at at Ellie Martin
Speaker 2: eight uh and of course the Local Loop is where
Speaker 2: she hangs out on YouTube as well. Yeah all right,
Speaker 2: good seeing him, have a great week. We'll chat again
Speaker 2: next Rooters. See you gotta I gotta roll seven hundred,
Speaker 2: Nobody love them.