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Speaker 1: Do you want to be an American idiot?

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Speaker 2: Tell me back on seven hundred W LWB two and three.

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Speaker 2: Bengals are at the Packers Sunday four twenty five. You'll

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Speaker 2: here to hear Home of the Best Bengals coverage seven

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Speaker 2: hundred WW with a new Joe and a new toe

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Speaker 2: with the helm Joe Flacco debuting with four or five

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Speaker 2: days of prep. Bengals lose three in a row. Can

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Speaker 2: they snap the streak and give the ball to a

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Speaker 2: guy who has now played and beaten? By the way,

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Speaker 2: if the Bengals can pull this miracle off, we'll have

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Speaker 2: beaten the Green Bay Packers twice in a four week span.

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Speaker 2: It's like almost like he's a quarterback of a NFC

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Speaker 2: North team or something. It's like the quarterback of the

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Speaker 2: Chicago Bears. Dan Horde, of course, voice of the Bengals,

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Speaker 2: jumps on the show this morning every Friday morning to

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Speaker 2: chop it up.

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Speaker 3: Danny, welcome, How are.

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Speaker 4: You, Sonny? I'm great.

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Speaker 2: How are you doing well? I'm doing well. So he

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Speaker 2: got Joe with a good toe. And when you heard

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Speaker 2: the news, because we all heard the news as the

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Speaker 2: voice of the Bengals, when you heard either the unconfirmed

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Speaker 2: rumor or the announcement that Joe Flacco was signed He's

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Speaker 2: coming to Cincinnati.

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Speaker 3: That was your immediate gut reaction immediately when you heard that.

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Speaker 4: I was stunned.

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Speaker 5: I was stunned by the person, not the fact that

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Speaker 5: they made a trade, because we have heard those rumors

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Speaker 5: for a couple of weeks, and the names that had

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Speaker 5: been bandied about most frequently were Russell Wilson and Jamis Winston.

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Speaker 4: Neither one of those guys got me too excited.

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Speaker 5: I was a little bit interested when I heard Andy

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Speaker 5: made some sense. But I did not expect Joe plackom.

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Speaker 5: But they felt they had to do something, and I'm

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Speaker 5: excited to see how it looks.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we shall see on Sunday.

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Speaker 2: Now, he's only had what four or five days of

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Speaker 2: work put in, but you know, he's experienced quarterback. He's

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Speaker 2: that doesn't concern me all that much. And maybe a

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Speaker 2: basic game plan for him because he can't go a

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Speaker 2: full playbook with Joe, Maybe that's maybe less is more here, huh.

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Speaker 5: I think the fact that he's faced the Packers and

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Speaker 5: faced them recently.

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Speaker 4: Is really helpful. He knows what to expect from the

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Speaker 5: That off the plate in terms of trying to get

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Speaker 4: And that kind of stuff with the Bengals.

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Speaker 5: And yeah, I think you're right, they've got to cut

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Speaker 5: down in the playbook a little bit. But the dude's

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Speaker 5: been playing for eighteen years. He's stepped in under similar

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Speaker 5: circumstances before. A couple of years ago with Cleveland, he

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Speaker 5: did have more practices, but he had not been with

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Speaker 5: the team in that year. He hadn't even been playing.

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Speaker 5: So I think if anybody can do this in a

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Speaker 5: short span of time, it's somebody who has two hundred

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Speaker 2: So the concern then, of course the most obviously, And

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Speaker 2: and I'm curious to hear your take on all that.

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Speaker 2: To me, does this begin an end to a large

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Speaker 2: scheming for the run either, as they are on pass protection.

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Speaker 2: So you've got Orlando Brown who's not playing the highest

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Speaker 2: is that for you? Is that the concern is, like, hey,

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Speaker 4: There was some.

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Speaker 2: It was just Browning couldn't find anyone open. It was

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Speaker 2: And Zach Taylor, I think admitted as such as like,

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Speaker 2: it's more mental. He's just out of sorts. We've got

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Speaker 4: Well, offensive line is a major factor regardless of who's

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Speaker 3: And I do think the stacks.

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Speaker 5: While we tend to assign them to the offensive line,

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Speaker 5: it's a quarterback stat as well. Tom Brady was less

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Speaker 5: few weeks ago when Cleveland faced Green Bay, the Browns

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Speaker 5: this year, he only got sacked twice. Why because he

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Speaker 5: the offensive line had to continue to get better, and

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Speaker 5: I did think there was some improvement against Detroit last week.

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Speaker 5: But I also think that the sacks at least will

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Speaker 2: At the same time, he was benched because of a

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Speaker 2: lack of mobility behind a poor offensive line arguably.

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Speaker 4: Really yeah, not true.

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Speaker 5: No, he was benched because the Cleveland Browns are rebuilding

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Speaker 5: and they drafted two quarterbacks this year and they wanted

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Speaker 5: saying that Joe is playing all that effectively. They had

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Speaker 5: It's because the Cleveland Browns are in total rebuild mode

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Speaker 2: And you think it's Flacco would still be the quarterback

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Speaker 2: if the Bengals hadn't come calling. I mean, he got

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Speaker 2: the reason they put Dylan Gabriel edge. Yeah, I'm saying

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Speaker 4: Well, a little bit of both.

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Speaker 5: But you began slowly by saying he was benched because

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Speaker 4: That's not the case.

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Speaker 5: It was a combination of he wasn't playing very well

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Speaker 5: Okay, it was fair fact that they're turning to their rookie,

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Speaker 2: Flacco's all right, So we talked about the line issues

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Speaker 2: come up the Bengals. How do you scheme against those two?

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Speaker 5: Well, you know you're going to have to give extra

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Speaker 5: the happiest person in the world when Cleveland swung that trade.

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Speaker 5: You know, teams used to devote extra attention to blocking him.

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Speaker 5: Michael Parsons last year when he was with Dallas, didn't

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Speaker 5: I'm sure that there will be snaps where it's up

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Speaker 2: Defense, of course, has struggled in a few areas. In

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Speaker 5: I think they've got to stop the run first and foremost.

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Speaker 5: You know, the Packers traded last year for Josh Jacobs

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Speaker 5: the Lions are in the running game. They forced five punts.

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Speaker 5: No team has forced Detroit to punt more this year.

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Speaker 5: They got one takeaway. They need some help from their offense.

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Speaker 5: The offense has to stop giving the opponent short fields.

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Speaker 5: The offense has to stop having so many three and outs.

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Speaker 5: That keeps the defense out there forever. I think if

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Speaker 2: Well, yeah, we always talk about it. It's the balance.

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Speaker 2: It's complimentary football. You can only overcome so much with

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Speaker 2: Let's face it, Joe Burrow covered up a lot of

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Speaker 2: at least this version the forty year old Joe Flacco

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Speaker 2: at this point too. You keep him upright and allow

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Speaker 2: don't suspect this is going to be a shootout, But

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Speaker 2: at the same time, if you make it competitive, I

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Speaker 5: I think that's true, and I think I'm also looking

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Speaker 5: at the next four weeks. So if Flacco looks decent

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Speaker 5: which is obviously a strong possibility a two touchdown underdog.

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Speaker 5: After that, you've got three straight home games Pittsburgh on

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Speaker 5: a Thursday night. Dealers have looked good so far, but

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Speaker 5: Thursday night home games are a big advantage. Then you've

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Speaker 5: got the Jets. Only when this team left, then you've

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Speaker 5: got the Bears. You know, the Bears have been better,

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Speaker 5: but I don't think anybody thinks they're great yet.

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Speaker 4: So if you lose this week.

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Speaker 5: And managed to win three straight home games against the

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Speaker 5: teams I just mentioned five and four, you've got Flaco.

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Speaker 5: You're feeling better about your offense. You know, you're right

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Speaker 5: back in the thick of things in an AFC in

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Speaker 5: general and an AFC North in particular. That team's really

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Speaker 5: unsettled right now. So I'm kind of looking at this

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Speaker 5: stabilize things during this stretch.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, nine wins feels like that right around that number,

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Speaker 2: doesn't it like you could you.

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Speaker 5: Could be Yeah, I at this point, I'm really thinking

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Speaker 5: I'd be surprised if anybody in the division wins. Can now,

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Speaker 5: maybe the Steelers are going to prove us wrong. They

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Speaker 2: You've really got a chance here and you can't write

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Speaker 2: How about this, It's like Joe comes back, something happens

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Speaker 5: But it didn't happen in such a short span.

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Speaker 3: That's incredible.

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Speaker 5: It would be incredible if Placo and the Bengals pull

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Speaker 2: It was so fun watching last week's game, and you

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Speaker 2: Now, Like Iowa State didn't fight in this one because

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Speaker 4: You know, honestly, I don't really care.

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Speaker 2: It really is an exciting product. And I'm glad people

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Speaker 4: Me too.

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Speaker 5: And I'm glad you mentioned the offensive line because we

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Speaker 2: Bengals coverage. Dan all the best, Buddy, Thanks again for jumping.

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Speaker 4: I appreciate it, my pleasure, Jelani, thanks for having me on.

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Speaker 2: Let's get a news update in and one return on

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Speaker 2: the show on seven hundred WLW. We got some movies

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Speaker 3: I'm not sure.

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Speaker 2: Anyway, if you're a fan of the late comedian John

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Speaker 1: Doing well?

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Speaker 4: How right?

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Speaker 2: Is Mike Debuski from ABC News in New York breaking

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Speaker 2: down movies this week. John Candy as a documentary. I

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Speaker 8: Yeah, So this is a new documentary looking back on

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Speaker 8: Stretching from the nineteen seventies all the way up to

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Speaker 8: People really responded to it, seeming to indicate that there

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Speaker 8: was an appetite for this type of thing. Ryan Reynolds

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Speaker 8: approached Colin Hanks, the son of Tom Hanks, who directed

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Speaker 8: this documentary, and the family of John Candy, including his

444
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Speaker 8: two children and his late wife, all of whom participated

445
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Speaker 8: in this documentary looking back through their old old home movies,

446
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Speaker 8: looking back through interviews with John Candy that kind of

447
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Speaker 8: pieced together this story of a guy who really did

448
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Speaker 8: not expect to be a comedian. He actually was, you know,

449
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Speaker 8: looking to either go into the military as a young

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Speaker 8: man or maybe become a professional football player, but found

451
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Speaker 8: himself to be a very talented comedian, starting off with

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Speaker 8: the sort of falt comedy sketch comedy show SCTV sort

453
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Speaker 8: of known as like the anti SNL for a little while,

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Speaker 8: and then moving into movies like Stripes and like Splash,

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Speaker 8: as we said, Uncle Buck Home Alone, Like these are

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Speaker 8: you know, classic films that John Candy really did change

457
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Speaker 8: for the better. Right he was known as being this

458
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Speaker 8: very generous performer. I actually had a chance to talk

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Speaker 8: to They had a chance to talk to John Candy's

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Speaker 8: two children, who were just kids when they when their

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Speaker 8: dad passed away in nineteen ninety four, and they said

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Speaker 8: that the experience of putting this documentary together, of piecing

463
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Speaker 8: through all this old footage of him really did make

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Speaker 8: them feel like detectives in their own father's life. That's

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Speaker 8: the words that they use and it really does show

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Speaker 8: up on screen. It's a really moving documentary. I have

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Speaker 8: to say it's worth your time if you like John

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Speaker 8: Candy or if you're just interested in the history of comedy.

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Speaker 2: He seemed like a really, really good guy, both on

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Speaker 2: screen and off.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, generosity is a word that keeps coming up in

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Speaker 8: interviews in this documentary. You hear from a lot of

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Speaker 8: big time comedians. First and foremost, hear from Bill Murray,

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Speaker 8: mel Brooks, Katherine O'Hara, Conan O'Brien, Martin short like, there's

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Speaker 8: a ton of people that they got together for this documentary,

476
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Speaker 8: and they all said that John Candy was such a

477
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Speaker 8: great scene partner because he was always giving you something

478
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Speaker 8: to work with as an actor, as a performer, he

479
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Speaker 8: was never trying to win the scene. He understood that

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Speaker 8: it was a collaborative process. And I think that really

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Speaker 8: does speak to John Candy's whole oubra right. His whole

482
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Speaker 8: sort of mood was to be generous, to make sure

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Speaker 8: that not just the performers were taken care of, but

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Speaker 8: the cast and crew as well, in addition to making

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Speaker 8: time for his family and the stresses of that did

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Speaker 8: take a toll on him. John Candy was a heavier guy,

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Speaker 8: and Hollywood put pressure on this man, according to this documentary,

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Speaker 8: to a a little overweight so that they could poke

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Speaker 8: fun at him. Some of these older interviews with John

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Speaker 8: Candy as well are kind of uncomfortable to sit through

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Speaker 8: because he can tell the interviewers trying to get a

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Speaker 8: joke out of, you know, his weight, when you know

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Speaker 8: John Candy himself is not very comfortable with that, and

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Speaker 8: that tension also does sort of run through this entire

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Speaker 8: documentary where you know he did feel stressed by that.

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Speaker 8: He never let it, you know, derail his career necessarily,

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Speaker 8: but that did, you know, take a toll on him,

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Speaker 8: you know, over the course ben years.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna go top three, I'm gonna go Uncle Buck Stripes,

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Speaker 2: and then kind of like Back of the Room Canadian Bacon,

501
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Speaker 2: which is a movie about with John Candy, I think

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Speaker 2: played the mayor and it's about the president of the

503
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Speaker 2: United States needs a controversies who gin's up basically a

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Speaker 2: war against Canada.

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Speaker 8: And the Canadian part of this runs through this so

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Speaker 8: big way.

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Speaker 3: I have to say, Yeah.

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Speaker 8: I gotta say I think we should shout out playing

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Speaker 8: strains and Automobiles. Oh yeah, you know, Baseballs is another

510
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Speaker 8: great one and something that people forget that John Candy

511
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Speaker 8: was in was one of Steven Spielberg's first movies nineteen

512
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Speaker 8: forty one at War drama of all things. But yeah,

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Speaker 8: he really did have a pretty varied career. I also

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Speaker 8: just love him in Home Alone. I think the last

515
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Speaker 8: game in the last speak was freely with him in

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Speaker 8: the Catherine O'Hara in Home Alone, and he's.

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Speaker 3: The polka singer, like.

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Speaker 8: Classic John Dannity stuff where it's really funny but it's

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Speaker 8: also really heart selt and warm.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he never comes over and like steals the whole movie.

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Speaker 3: Kind of guy.

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Speaker 2: But at the same time, like if if he like

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Speaker 2: I think the best camey of sort of cam something

524
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Speaker 2: would be Vacation with Chevy Chase. I mean he came

525
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Speaker 2: in as a security guard and.

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Speaker 3: Just owned it.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, And and that was actually the documentary gets into this.

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Speaker 8: They were kind of just looking for a guy and

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Speaker 8: John Candy with a round it's even so it's sort

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Speaker 8: of happenstance that he fell into that role. But yeah,

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Speaker 8: the end of Vacation is a great example of that,

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Speaker 8: playing that like you know, a character that he says

533
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Speaker 8: was inspired by one of the characters he played on SCTV.

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Speaker 3: Uh, you know, in this in this new role.

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Speaker 8: That was kind of update guy, but like that forced

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Speaker 8: to deal with the you know, obviously the craziness of

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Speaker 8: Chevy Chase.

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Speaker 3: So it's it's good. He used to love.

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Speaker 2: STV because where I grew up in Western New York,

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Speaker 2: and so you know, you get the Canadian stations and

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Speaker 2: that was like before us and l there was that

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Speaker 2: that was on STV is like on Friday nights, I

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Speaker 2: think or something like that, and so you'd watch that

544
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Speaker 2: and the Mackenzie Brothers and but but so many people

545
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Speaker 2: came out of Second City, Chicago and then to Toronto.

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Speaker 2: You know, it's you know, dan Aykroyd's in there and

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Speaker 2: John Candies in there, and you just go on and

548
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Speaker 2: on with all these great names and people, you know,

549
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Speaker 2: Geene Levy, et cetera, Catherine O'Hara, and then they all

550
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Speaker 2: come back together and you go, oh, yeah, I remember

551
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Speaker 2: them when and of course now they're older now. So anyway,

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Speaker 2: is it one or three or five? And how well

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Speaker 2: is it a series?

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Speaker 9: Mike?

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Speaker 3: No, it's a one and done.

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Speaker 8: It's okay, about a two hours, so maybe like an

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Speaker 8: hour forty five documentary on Amazon Prime Video.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'd watch that all.

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Speaker 2: Right, theaters, Let's pivot from the small screen to the

560
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Speaker 2: big The new Tron movie is out right now, and

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Speaker 2: I know that Nine Inch Nails. I'm not a huge

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Speaker 2: Nine Inch Nails fan, but I do like some of

563
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Speaker 2: their songs, so that kind of intrigued me.

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Speaker 3: And I saw that Jeff Bridges back, right, Jeff Bridges

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Speaker 3: is back.

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Speaker 8: This is the third Tron movie and Jeff Bridges is

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Speaker 8: in all of them. So this is a classic sort

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Speaker 8: of sci fi franchise. All got started about forty three

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Speaker 8: years ago in the early nineteen eighties with this story

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Speaker 8: of Jeff Bridges with a computer programmer who got sucked

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Speaker 8: into a computer game, and that computer game with brawn

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Speaker 8: of course, with big neon lights and at this point

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Speaker 8: now pretty data visuals, but even still it was a

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Speaker 8: really you know, impactful movie in the history of sci

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Speaker 8: fi cinema. They follow that up in twenty ten with

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Speaker 8: Tron Legacy, that, of course, you know, also starred Jeff Bridges,

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Speaker 8: and you know, had this really cool daft punk soundtrack

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Speaker 8: that a lot of people still listen to. Now we're

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Speaker 8: back with Tron aries. This stars Jared Leto and Greta

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Speaker 8: Lee alongside the returning Jeff Bridges. As you said, it

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Speaker 8: is scored by nine Inch Nails. So they didn't get

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Speaker 8: daft punk back that punk broke up, unfortunately, but they

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Speaker 8: did get a similar sort of like electronic kind of

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Speaker 8: vibe back. And that is one of the big draws

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Speaker 8: of these Tron movies. They have these killer soundtracks, these

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Speaker 8: really distinctive visuals. However, they're never quite reviewed positively in

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Speaker 8: terms of the stories, and I think that is holding

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Speaker 8: true with this new one. I'm looking at the New

589
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Speaker 8: York Times review right now, which is titled who needs

590
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Speaker 8: logic when you have Neon? And then of course the

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Speaker 8: rap also says skip the hack sequel, just download.

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Speaker 3: This down track.

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Speaker 2: I remember seeing parts of Tron because back then was

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Speaker 2: when we first got a pay cable like HBO, and

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Speaker 2: there were four movies and they'd run them all like

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Speaker 2: all the time. You'd seen the same four movies over

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Speaker 2: and over. One of them would be Tron, and I remember,

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Speaker 2: even as a kid watching it, going it's pretty cheesy.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, even in period.

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Speaker 8: I remember I had a Tron video game back in

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Speaker 8: the day, and that's how I learned about Tron. I

602
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Speaker 8: was like everybody was saying, it's like, oh, Tron Legacy's

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Speaker 8: coming up. They made a movie based on video game.

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Speaker 2: No, no, no other way around, So it is it any good?

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Speaker 3: I mean, what's the reviews? Like?

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Speaker 8: Not not super positive? It seems like but I think

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Speaker 8: said that's always been the case with Tron movie. You

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Speaker 8: know a little bit of style over substance, but that's.

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Speaker 3: Not always a bad thing.

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Speaker 2: It's a weird neat right because it's it's not it's

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Speaker 2: sci fi, but it's kind of like not good. It's

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Speaker 2: not like Star Trek Star Wars where there's a huge

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Speaker 2: passion like Core Tron, people aren't that big, and it's

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Speaker 2: just it just kind of like falls between the cracks.

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Speaker 3: I think the best way to describe.

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Speaker 8: The franchise definitely, Yeah, it's got it's fans, but it's

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Speaker 8: a passionate, small fan base. I would say it's definitely

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Speaker 8: not a Star Wars or a Star Trek in that regard.

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Speaker 8: But again, I mean, if you're a fan of big

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Speaker 8: sci fi spectacle, this definitely does seem like it will

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Speaker 8: do the trick instead of people being sucked into computers.

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Speaker 8: This is computer programs that have become self aware, spilling

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Speaker 8: out into our real world and wreaking.

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Speaker 3: All sorts of paboc.

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Speaker 8: It seems like the classic Tron light cycles as well,

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Speaker 8: which I'm a fan of the motorcycles that put up

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Speaker 8: the giant digital m They make a reappearance here.

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Speaker 3: So that is kind of an exciting all right. One

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Speaker 3: of our not to the old John films, one of.

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Speaker 2: Our entertainment Greuz Mike Tbiski from New York on the

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Speaker 2: show on seven hundred w welw and years ago when

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Speaker 2: the Borat movie first came out and a huge fan

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Speaker 2: of Sasha Baron Cone stuff that kind of stuff, and

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Speaker 2: I went to the theater to watch it, and I

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Speaker 2: was pleasantly amused because there are people showing up, older

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Speaker 2: people who elderly people show up to watch it think

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Speaker 2: it was actually a documentary about a country that doesn't exist.

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Speaker 2: And they were leaving, literally in the first five ten

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Speaker 2: minutes of movies completely pissed off because they thought it

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Speaker 2: was a real documentary, which I found outstanding agid prop.

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Speaker 2: And so now fast forward to if you go to

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Speaker 2: see Kiss a Spider Woman expecting to be a Marvel

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Speaker 2: franchise kind of it's not right.

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Speaker 3: Oh no, not ryologue, stretch somenings. Go Wait a minute,

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Speaker 3: I thought there was a Spider Woman. What the hell? Yeah,

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Speaker 3: not a reference to Spider Man. No can Spider Woman.

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Speaker 8: It is a musical starring Jennifer Lopez and is based

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Speaker 8: on a book which was then turned into a musical

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Speaker 8: in the nineteen eighties, both a stage and a film musical.

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Speaker 8: Now they're remaking it with Jennifer Lopez sort of in

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Speaker 8: the starring role. She plays three different characters in this movie,

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Speaker 8: but it's really set in the early nineteen eighties in

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Speaker 8: Argentina and sort of the waning days of an authoritarian

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Speaker 8: government there. And what they get into in this story

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Speaker 8: is the story of two political prisoners, effectively, one of

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Speaker 8: whom is telling the story of this classic Hollywood movie

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Speaker 8: to the other one basically as a way to entertain

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Speaker 8: themselves while they're in prison. And as this person is

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Speaker 8: telling this story, you the viewer, find yourself transported to

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Speaker 8: the world of the musical film. So it goes from

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Speaker 8: the gray, brown, drab prison to this very technicolor kind

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Speaker 8: of expressive musical world with again Jennifer Lopez kind of

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Speaker 8: in the starring Hollywood role. There also starts Diego Luno,

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Speaker 8: who star Wars fans might recognize as Cassie and and

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Speaker 8: Or from the and Or TV series, also from the

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Speaker 8: Rogue One movie. He's in this and also a relative newcomer,

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Speaker 8: Tona Tua just goes by one name in this film,

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Speaker 8: and this person that really is a standout. I got

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Speaker 8: and I walked away very impressed. You know, it sounds

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Speaker 8: like it's kind of a hodgepodge of a lot of

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Speaker 8: different things. It deals with a lot of different things,

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Speaker 8: from sort of political storylines to sexuality storylines, storylines about

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Speaker 8: love and death and all these other sorts of things.

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Speaker 8: I gotta say it, lands, I think it really really

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Speaker 8: works with the caveat that I understand that musicals are

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Speaker 8: not for everyone. I am partial to musicals. That is,

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Speaker 8: you know, the sort of disclaimer that I'll give. But

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Speaker 8: even still, it is a good time at the movies.

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Speaker 8: Tront is expected to be the big winner at the

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Speaker 8: box office this weekend. This is going to be kind

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Speaker 8: of a lesser player, it seem, at least in terms

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Speaker 8: of box office draw but I walked away really impressed.

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Speaker 3: If you're into musicals, if you like j.

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Speaker 8: Love, maybe even if you like Cassie and or from

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Speaker 8: Star Wars, maybe check this one.

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Speaker 3: Out, all right.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and Kayelowe is gonna crush it no matter what

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Speaker 2: she does. If she's singing on a microphone, you're good.

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Speaker 2: Even without a microphone, she's pretty good. So this is

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Speaker 2: like the little hall a lull And in a few

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Speaker 2: weeks we'll probably fire up the holiday season and get

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Speaker 2: ready for that. So Mike Debiskie in New York at

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Speaker 2: ABC at the Michael Lebuski as his handle, Thanks again, buddy,

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Speaker 2: appreciate you checking on this Friday morning.

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Speaker 3: Have a great one, have a good take care all right.

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Speaker 2: So, in between watching sports and maybe getting outside and

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Speaker 2: seeing that big bright orbitan the Scot's gonna beautiful weekend weatherwise,

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Speaker 2: for sure, get out and enjoy it because we're not

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Speaker 2: gonna have many more of these days left, Sloany, seven

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Speaker 2: hundred ww weather can't be any more perfect for real.

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Speaker 2: You get outside and do some stuff this weekend, Sloaney,

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Speaker 2: here's seven hundred w WELW getting you there, and this

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Speaker 2: Friday morning with news happening in just about three minutes

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Speaker 2: when we return, it's Representative Greg Landsman.

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Speaker 3: We'll check out on the show. What the hell is

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Speaker 3: he doing.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna ask him if he's willing to as a

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Speaker 2: member of Congress and Congress's not doing anything with the shutdown,

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Speaker 2: you should go around at least I don't know. It's

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Speaker 2: two early shovel driveways. How about go cut some lawns.

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Speaker 2: First ten callers at five point three seven, give us

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Speaker 2: your addressing, Greg Landsman, you're representative, roll up of sleeves,

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Speaker 2: you know'll cut your grass?

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Speaker 3: God damn it? Doing something.

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Speaker 2: Actually, I believe he's given his money back, so he's

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Speaker 2: not taking a paycheck.

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Speaker 3: But I said, you went in.

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Speaker 2: The shutdown is take away their healthcare benefits and their paycheck,

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Speaker 2: and I would think you'd probably not have a shutdown.

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Speaker 2: But that's what we'll be talking about. To some degree.

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Speaker 2: Of course, what's happening in Gaza right now? How close

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Speaker 2: are we to peace? A lot of people say, very

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Speaker 2: very close. Looks like it's a done deal. Maybe the

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Speaker 2: president heads there this weekend off to Egypt and cut

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Speaker 2: her and they're involved and signing this this deal. The

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Speaker 2: deal has been struck. We're going to have a cease fire.

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Speaker 2: Question is how long it lasts. We'll get into that,

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Speaker 2: and of course the shutdown related stuff. And an observation

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Speaker 2: here is, you know, okay, one side blames the other.

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Speaker 2: We've seen this blame game go on. Is that Democrats

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Speaker 2: are the ones who force the government shut down because

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Speaker 2: it's the only way to get negotiations with the little

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Speaker 2: power they hold. And the reason why they picked healthcare

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Speaker 2: is because it's it's of the I think three issues

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Speaker 2: ones women's rights in the environment, and the other being healthcare.

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Speaker 3: It's the one that most people respond to.

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Speaker 2: And of course, with the subsidies expiring or is set

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Speaker 2: to expire here, now, hey, it's one of the few

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Speaker 2: things that we're beating Trump on, which would be healthcare.

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Speaker 2: So let's take that issue that people trust us on

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Speaker 2: and use that to maybe build some momentum here.

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Speaker 1: Now.

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Speaker 2: I don't know what kind of momentum it is right now,

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Speaker 2: because they don't have one as far as a party

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Speaker 2: goes and where it's headed and what's happening. If you

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Speaker 2: think there are things are a little screwed up with

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Speaker 2: the Republicans, they're a lot more screwed up with the Democrats.

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Speaker 2: And the end result is government is shut down because

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Speaker 2: of that. But I think you also have to look

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Speaker 2: at it and go, how did this whole thing happen

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Speaker 2: to begin with? Well, Democrats rolled Obamacare subsidies, the extensions

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Speaker 2: of Obamacare for ACA, right into the American Rescue Plan.

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Speaker 2: I'll get into this with Greg. So we had the

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Speaker 2: American Rescue Plan. What's the America. It's COVID. We had

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Speaker 2: COVID stuff, okay, and you kept trying to drag COVID

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Speaker 2: on much much longer than necessary. We got to keep

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Speaker 2: we got COVID relief COVID that first year a couple

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Speaker 2: of years. Absolutely, we're shut down. We didn't know what

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Speaker 2: we were doing. Once you start to get to year five,

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Speaker 2: you can't really go back, Well it's COVID, like no.

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Speaker 2: And then they went, well, we can't use COVID anymore.

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Speaker 2: We'll make it the Inflation Reduction Act. And the problem

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Speaker 2: is all of the stuff in Inflation Reduction Act, Rescue Plan, Obamacare,

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Speaker 2: all of it was passed by executive FIAT, by the

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Speaker 2: pen of Joe Biden, by BARACKO. But there's not a

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Speaker 2: vote on this stuff, right. So the end result is

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Speaker 2: we have a government that now a Congress, it doesn't

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Speaker 2: do anything because we've completely given that authority to the president.

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Speaker 2: And again we saw what Biden did, and when Donald

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Speaker 2: Trump got elect he said, okay, we'll hold my beer

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Speaker 2: because here we go. You want to see some executive orders,

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Speaker 2: watch this. We've had a flurry of them, and again

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Speaker 2: that's you don't need Congress. If the executive branch you

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Speaker 2: can to sign everything way. That's not how the constitution works.

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Speaker 2: But we allowed them to get away with it. We'll

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Speaker 2: talk more with Greg Lansman afternoons on the Home of

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Speaker 2: the Best Bengals coverage seven hundred WW. Since then, do

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Speaker 2: you want to be an American?

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Speaker 3: Got flowing?

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Speaker 2: Friday morning, seven hundred WLW. We're nearing the end of

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Speaker 2: our second full week of shutdown theater. Republicans are screaming

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Speaker 2: at Democrats that they're forcing a shut down to score

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Speaker 2: political points. Democrats are screaming at Republicans saying they just

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Speaker 2: don't want to sit down and negotiate, and of course,

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Speaker 2: a shutdown because Republicans Democrats can't agree to pass a

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Speaker 2: funding bill. Republicans still need them to support any resolution

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Speaker 2: to spend and they're holding them hostage result, and we

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Speaker 2: have this shutdown. So Greg Lansman is here, our representative,

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Speaker 2: and what are we paying you for?

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Speaker 3: Exactly Landsman? Right now, you're not doing anything.

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Speaker 4: What I mean, I'm trying. I'm negotia. We're trying to

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Speaker 4: negotiate with the folks. Uh, you know, I'm in the

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Speaker 4: problem for elvers cackus. So there's a bunch of Democrats

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Speaker 4: who Republicans are working through. At the sticking point is

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Speaker 4: this healthcare question and and and these affordable care access

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Speaker 4: These are set to expire at the end of the

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Speaker 4: year and open enrollment starts in a few weeks. And

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Speaker 4: you know, there are those of us who want a

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Speaker 4: resolution to this now so that those extensions happen, and

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Speaker 4: others who say, you know, reopen the government and then

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Speaker 4: we'll talk about healthcare. But you know that that that's

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Speaker 4: the crux of this is trying to get a deal

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Speaker 4: done where we reopen the government and protect people's health care.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: And I think for well a lot of us anyway

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Speaker 2: who are not political kool aid drinkers and look at

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Speaker 2: and just throw our hands up and go, I just

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Speaker 2: you know one point that we're pointing. It's I almost stupid.

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Speaker 2: You're both wearing the same T shirt and that's essentially

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Speaker 2: what this is.

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Speaker 3: And we know how we are.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So Democrats, you guys, you forced a government shutdown

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Speaker 2: because it's the only way to bring about the negotiations

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Speaker 2: because you don't hold any juice, you don't have the power.

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Speaker 2: So you know, I look at that and go, can't

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Speaker 2: we extend it? Well, I mean, it's going to cost

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Speaker 2: us like a trillion and a half dollars over the

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Speaker 2: next seven weeks to just simply kick the can down

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Speaker 2: the wrong and go, okay, we'll pass another continuing resolution.

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Speaker 2: And that's the frustrating part all of this, at least theatrics.

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Speaker 4: Greg.

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Speaker 2: It's just it's continuing to add to our thirty seven

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Speaker 2: trillion dollar national debt, and neither side's talking about that.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I think that's that's that's right, And the

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Speaker 4: deficit is a huge part of this too, right, So

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Speaker 4: I do take exception with the sort of you know,

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Speaker 4: the forcing of the shutdown. I mean, the challenge wise,

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Speaker 4: you know, Republicans knew they needed Democratic votes to pass

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Speaker 4: a budget, and they were told by Trump not to negotiate. Now,

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Speaker 4: in previous years, there has been by Parson negotiation. Since

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Speaker 4: I produced a bipartison budget or continuing resolution. They did

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Speaker 4: not do that, and that that's what forced the shut down.

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Speaker 4: That that would be my argument, that's the way it

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Speaker 4: played out, in the way I taught it was. It

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Speaker 4: would have been super easy to sit down and negotiate

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Speaker 4: and had their enough and told don't negotiate, I think

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Speaker 4: they would have. But the deficit is a huge, huge

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Speaker 4: piece of this fight too, because remember this all started

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Speaker 4: the mess, uh, you know several months ago with the

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Speaker 4: this this massive spending and tax bill that added you know,

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Speaker 4: trillions of dollars to the deficit, and then and then

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Speaker 4: cut healthcare by over trillion dollars, all to pay for

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Speaker 4: these tax cuts, tax cuts that overwhelmingly benefit folks at

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Speaker 4: the top. Now have they not done that, we would

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Speaker 4: not be in this mess and we would not have

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Speaker 4: added trillions of dollars to the deficit. But I'm I'm

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Speaker 4: a firm believer that none of that matters.

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Speaker 1: No one really cares.

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Speaker 4: You do not have to get in a room and

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Speaker 4: sort it out and in this case, reopened the government

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Speaker 4: while also protecting healthcare. Just because this is relevant to

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Speaker 4: my job as a member I represent, you know, eight

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Speaker 4: hundred thousand constituents in our districts in southwest Ohio. Thirty

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Speaker 4: two thousand people are going to see their healthcare beremiums

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Speaker 4: skyrocket if we don't do something now, and fourteen thousand

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Speaker 4: folks here will lose their healthcare all together. I can't

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Speaker 4: I can't just punt on that.

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Speaker 1: You know what I mean.

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Speaker 4: I've got to get that result.

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Speaker 2: I got to get and I get the short term

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Speaker 2: necessity for this, Greg Lansman.

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Speaker 3: So the fact that so the substantes expire and.

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Speaker 2: The premiums for those in the Affordable Care Act, the

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Speaker 2: marketplace right would more than double on app goes up

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Speaker 2: for like I think I saw eight hundred and almost

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Speaker 2: nine hundred dollars to nineteen hundred dollars a year for individuals.

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Speaker 2: It's like one hundred plus percent increase A math forgive me,

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Speaker 2: but that's a hell of a lot of money, right So,

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Speaker 2: and that's going to hit tens of thousands of people

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Speaker 2: in the district. And I look at that, go, Okay,

872
00:40:07,480 --> 00:40:09,640
Speaker 2: that's real money. It's gonna affect real people, and that

873
00:40:09,719 --> 00:40:13,600
Speaker 2: is a that's a huge problem. And I guess the

874
00:40:13,680 --> 00:40:15,960
Speaker 2: thing is the fact that that, why isn't anyone just

875
00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:19,239
Speaker 2: talking about how we're just extending more subsidies, like it's

876
00:40:19,280 --> 00:40:22,280
Speaker 2: not really affordable. We're just taking money from a different

877
00:40:22,360 --> 00:40:25,399
Speaker 2: pile and moving it to this pile to help people out.

878
00:40:25,680 --> 00:40:27,560
Speaker 2: When you look at it, you go, wow, why does

879
00:40:27,600 --> 00:40:29,919
Speaker 2: it cost so much for healthcare in this country? Why

880
00:40:29,920 --> 00:40:32,200
Speaker 2: why aren't we addressing that issue rather than saying, hey,

881
00:40:32,480 --> 00:40:36,880
Speaker 2: we can't socialized medicine like Republicans climate you know, you guys,

882
00:40:37,280 --> 00:40:39,359
Speaker 2: they very least have a plan. It's the Affordable Care Act,

883
00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:42,040
Speaker 2: and you know, patchwork Medicare and Medicaid and everything else,

884
00:40:42,080 --> 00:40:44,920
Speaker 2: and it's we know that doesn't really work because subsidy

885
00:40:44,960 --> 00:40:47,719
Speaker 2: is just transferring more money and covering up the problem.

886
00:40:47,760 --> 00:40:50,600
Speaker 2: It shouldn't cost thirteen thousand dollars per person in the

887
00:40:50,680 --> 00:40:53,719
Speaker 2: United States for just basic level healthcare. The other side,

888
00:40:53,840 --> 00:40:57,000
Speaker 2: you know, Republicans don't really have an alternative solution to

889
00:40:57,040 --> 00:40:59,280
Speaker 2: the healthcare crisis here. Why why don't we ever address

890
00:40:59,360 --> 00:41:00,759
Speaker 2: that as opposed to just band it?

891
00:41:03,360 --> 00:41:07,520
Speaker 4: Because it's hard, right, and politicians don't usually like to

892
00:41:07,560 --> 00:41:10,840
Speaker 4: do the hard work. That's the stuff I love the most.

893
00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:15,520
Speaker 4: I actually think that the health care complexity is what

894
00:41:15,640 --> 00:41:16,919
Speaker 4: you know. I mean, that's one of the reasons why

895
00:41:16,920 --> 00:41:19,360
Speaker 4: I joined the Energy and Commerce because that's where we

896
00:41:19,440 --> 00:41:22,479
Speaker 4: take on the healthcare fight. And ultimately this gets back

897
00:41:22,520 --> 00:41:24,719
Speaker 4: to who's paying for health care? And so for a

898
00:41:24,760 --> 00:41:28,560
Speaker 4: long time, you know, employers did, and most employers would

899
00:41:28,560 --> 00:41:31,640
Speaker 4: cover your health care costs. And that's not the case anymore.

900
00:41:31,680 --> 00:41:34,399
Speaker 4: You have more and more people who are working who

901
00:41:34,440 --> 00:41:36,920
Speaker 4: don't get health care through their employers have to go

902
00:41:37,000 --> 00:41:42,480
Speaker 4: buy it separately, and it's just too expensive for most

903
00:41:42,560 --> 00:41:46,040
Speaker 4: people based on what people are earning. And so you know,

904
00:41:46,080 --> 00:41:48,600
Speaker 4: the question is do you want those folks to have

905
00:41:48,680 --> 00:41:52,040
Speaker 4: no health insurance, which screws everybody right because health care

906
00:41:52,080 --> 00:41:56,040
Speaker 4: costs go up across the board. Or an't it bad

907
00:41:56,400 --> 00:41:59,720
Speaker 4: to just, you know, have people running around without health insurance.

908
00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:02,000
Speaker 2: You work two or three jobs and it's part time.

909
00:42:02,040 --> 00:42:05,000
Speaker 2: And you know, the again, the engine that drives American economy.

910
00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:07,279
Speaker 2: Of course, small business and those who went with the

911
00:42:07,360 --> 00:42:09,880
Speaker 2: vast majoriy of businesses employ less than two hundred people

912
00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:13,040
Speaker 2: and fewer and fear of those businesses are offering healthcare

913
00:42:13,120 --> 00:42:15,919
Speaker 2: mefods simply because it costs much.

914
00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:19,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, and so then there are two places that A

915
00:42:19,480 --> 00:42:23,320
Speaker 4: lot of folks go. I mean, you know, there's obviously Medicare,

916
00:42:23,640 --> 00:42:26,240
Speaker 4: there's Medicaid. If you're you're working and you're not making

917
00:42:26,600 --> 00:42:30,879
Speaker 4: enough money to buy health insurance in the private marketplace,

918
00:42:30,960 --> 00:42:34,399
Speaker 4: and your employer does not give you health care, which

919
00:42:34,440 --> 00:42:37,640
Speaker 4: is the case for these lower wage jobs. And then

920
00:42:37,880 --> 00:42:40,720
Speaker 4: and then you have a lot of middle class folks

921
00:42:40,719 --> 00:42:44,560
Speaker 4: who are working really hard. They cover they can pay

922
00:42:44,640 --> 00:42:48,719
Speaker 4: maybe you know, five six hundred dollars a week, but

923
00:42:48,800 --> 00:42:51,440
Speaker 4: they can't a month. But they can't pay.

924
00:42:51,680 --> 00:42:53,600
Speaker 1: The thousand dollars are being asked.

925
00:42:53,320 --> 00:42:55,719
Speaker 4: To pay, so the subsidy helps to cover that and

926
00:42:55,800 --> 00:42:59,400
Speaker 4: keep people ensured. That helps small businesses because you know,

927
00:42:59,520 --> 00:43:04,440
Speaker 4: somebody helping, so they're stick around and they're they're not losing, right.

928
00:43:04,440 --> 00:43:05,719
Speaker 3: I understand that point.

929
00:43:05,960 --> 00:43:08,160
Speaker 2: My point is, Greg, it doesn't Okay, you were just

930
00:43:08,200 --> 00:43:12,520
Speaker 2: taking more tax pair money and subsidizing it. And I

931
00:43:12,560 --> 00:43:14,320
Speaker 2: know we're in a nation of substies, but the point

932
00:43:14,360 --> 00:43:17,920
Speaker 2: is it's so expensive because of the system that's in

933
00:43:17,920 --> 00:43:20,680
Speaker 2: place right now. You said this is a hard problem.

934
00:43:20,840 --> 00:43:23,000
Speaker 2: I don't think it's that hard To'll be honest with you.

935
00:43:23,040 --> 00:43:25,680
Speaker 2: Hear me out for a second. Okay, so you've got

936
00:43:25,719 --> 00:43:28,480
Speaker 2: these enhanced subsidies that were started in twenty twenty one

937
00:43:28,640 --> 00:43:31,080
Speaker 2: from COVID nineteen and we got in through twenty twenty five,

938
00:43:31,160 --> 00:43:33,319
Speaker 2: which I don't know. We're far moved from COVID right now.

939
00:43:33,360 --> 00:43:35,719
Speaker 2: And it's been a cover for a long time to say,

940
00:43:35,719 --> 00:43:38,160
Speaker 2: well it's COVID. Well no, it's a you know, this

941
00:43:38,200 --> 00:43:40,440
Speaker 2: has to do with the Inflation Reduction Act. And by

942
00:43:40,480 --> 00:43:42,879
Speaker 2: the way, all those things were pasted like Trump's doing

943
00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:45,879
Speaker 2: right now with executive order. So Congress has literally been

944
00:43:46,160 --> 00:43:49,720
Speaker 2: rendered at gelding here in this case, because you guys,

945
00:43:49,880 --> 00:43:52,040
Speaker 2: you know, if we're going to have executive decree in

946
00:43:52,080 --> 00:43:54,200
Speaker 2: an executive branch and the president just signed away an

947
00:43:54,239 --> 00:43:55,879
Speaker 2: executive order everything, this is.

948
00:43:55,800 --> 00:43:56,760
Speaker 3: What we wind up getting.

949
00:43:56,800 --> 00:43:59,160
Speaker 2: And this is why the government shut down because Congress

950
00:43:59,200 --> 00:44:01,840
Speaker 2: is kind of effectful. So I look at the failures

951
00:44:01,880 --> 00:44:04,000
Speaker 2: in healthcare in the market and go, you know, I

952
00:44:05,160 --> 00:44:07,960
Speaker 2: buy life insurance. You have a hear Well life insurance policy.

953
00:44:08,080 --> 00:44:10,000
Speaker 2: I got car insurance. I buy that on the market.

954
00:44:10,200 --> 00:44:12,680
Speaker 2: I have homeowners or I have renters insurance. We buy

955
00:44:12,719 --> 00:44:15,160
Speaker 2: stuff on the open market all the time. Healthcare doesn't

956
00:44:15,200 --> 00:44:18,000
Speaker 2: work like that. And I think if you just simply

957
00:44:18,680 --> 00:44:19,800
Speaker 2: it really is it for Congress?

958
00:44:19,800 --> 00:44:20,319
Speaker 3: Doho goes. Listen.

959
00:44:20,320 --> 00:44:22,720
Speaker 2: If you're an employer, you can't offer health care benefits anymore.

960
00:44:22,719 --> 00:44:25,120
Speaker 2: We're going to open it up to insurance companies from

961
00:44:25,120 --> 00:44:28,400
Speaker 2: around the country. They're going to bid on it. It's innovative,

962
00:44:28,520 --> 00:44:30,520
Speaker 2: the lowest cost wins. And then all the money that

963
00:44:30,560 --> 00:44:34,960
Speaker 2: we spend on bureaucracy and compliance and share all that stuff,

964
00:44:35,200 --> 00:44:37,640
Speaker 2: all that money can go and help people who fall

965
00:44:37,680 --> 00:44:40,680
Speaker 2: between the cracks, who really need it. And look at

966
00:44:40,680 --> 00:44:43,080
Speaker 2: the gig economy. So many people are stuck in jobs

967
00:44:43,080 --> 00:44:45,640
Speaker 2: they hate or they're underpaid because they have health care benefits.

968
00:44:45,880 --> 00:44:49,120
Speaker 2: If we freed people from employment and health care benefits

969
00:44:49,280 --> 00:44:52,279
Speaker 2: and liberated them, the economy would explode.

970
00:44:52,680 --> 00:44:53,680
Speaker 3: Why aren't we doing that.

971
00:44:53,719 --> 00:44:55,239
Speaker 2: It's the easiest thing in the world for you guys

972
00:44:55,280 --> 00:44:58,080
Speaker 2: to go. No, you're a business. You can't offer health insurance.

973
00:44:58,080 --> 00:45:00,399
Speaker 2: You're not giving me car insurance. You're not taking care

974
00:45:00,400 --> 00:45:02,840
Speaker 2: of my homeowners insurance. You're not by my pet insurance

975
00:45:02,920 --> 00:45:05,200
Speaker 2: or my reunter's insurance. Why are we doing little of

976
00:45:05,280 --> 00:45:05,680
Speaker 2: health care?

977
00:45:06,640 --> 00:45:08,399
Speaker 4: Are you as sure as I'm sorry? Are you making

978
00:45:08,400 --> 00:45:09,719
Speaker 4: an argument for a single pair?

979
00:45:10,560 --> 00:45:10,880
Speaker 3: I'm out?

980
00:45:10,960 --> 00:45:13,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, here's the thing, right, so here's the thing, and

981
00:45:13,480 --> 00:45:15,400
Speaker 2: it's based on and there's still going to be subsidy

982
00:45:15,440 --> 00:45:18,080
Speaker 2: of course, because there's people that again you said, you know,

983
00:45:18,120 --> 00:45:20,960
Speaker 2: if you make the standard what eight hundred, I forget

984
00:45:20,960 --> 00:45:23,520
Speaker 2: what the percentage is, but a percentage your income goes

985
00:45:23,520 --> 00:45:25,480
Speaker 2: to healthcare costs, just like it does for everything else.

986
00:45:25,520 --> 00:45:27,439
Speaker 2: And if you can't meet that, the government can come

987
00:45:27,440 --> 00:45:29,560
Speaker 2: in and help you there, and we'll have more than

988
00:45:29,680 --> 00:45:32,640
Speaker 2: enough money to not only put that towards the deficit

989
00:45:32,680 --> 00:45:35,000
Speaker 2: greg but also help people who really need it.

990
00:45:35,080 --> 00:45:37,400
Speaker 3: That's good for Republicans and Democrats.

991
00:45:36,880 --> 00:45:37,279
Speaker 1: Isn't it.

992
00:45:39,560 --> 00:45:44,640
Speaker 4: I mean, I do believe that the current passion does

993
00:45:44,680 --> 00:45:48,799
Speaker 4: not work and and sort of taking away from that

994
00:45:49,000 --> 00:45:52,160
Speaker 4: is just going to create this crisis, right, so that

995
00:45:52,840 --> 00:45:55,799
Speaker 4: I agree with, which is you know, I believe there

996
00:45:55,840 --> 00:45:59,240
Speaker 4: should be a single payer, or at least a public

997
00:45:59,280 --> 00:46:03,359
Speaker 4: option where people can buy into Medicaid, which is an

998
00:46:03,400 --> 00:46:10,120
Speaker 4: incredibly efficient uh uh you know healthcare uh systems, and

999
00:46:10,640 --> 00:46:13,600
Speaker 4: it's got the lowest overhead. I'm not I'm not a

1000
00:46:13,600 --> 00:46:18,840
Speaker 4: big believer that everything should be uh, you know, for profit,

1001
00:46:18,920 --> 00:46:21,760
Speaker 4: Like I just don't think that these healthcare companies should

1002
00:46:21,760 --> 00:46:23,360
Speaker 4: be running a big profit.

1003
00:46:23,440 --> 00:46:25,920
Speaker 2: Well, you're in the wrong country then buddy.

1004
00:46:26,600 --> 00:46:29,800
Speaker 4: But yes and no, like there are certain places where

1005
00:46:30,040 --> 00:46:33,520
Speaker 4: we don't say okay, like I, we we say, look,

1006
00:46:33,880 --> 00:46:37,799
Speaker 4: we want the profits or any additional resources here to

1007
00:46:37,840 --> 00:46:40,920
Speaker 4: go into people's care, Like people should not be making

1008
00:46:42,320 --> 00:46:45,920
Speaker 4: you know, billions and billions of dollars, you know, running

1009
00:46:45,960 --> 00:46:50,279
Speaker 4: these healthcare companies or pharmaceutical companies when in fact you

1010
00:46:50,360 --> 00:46:53,120
Speaker 4: have all of these people who are struggling to pay

1011
00:46:53,200 --> 00:46:55,920
Speaker 4: for their health care. So I don't think that the

1012
00:46:55,960 --> 00:47:00,560
Speaker 4: current system works. But we're not going to be We're

1013
00:47:00,560 --> 00:47:03,000
Speaker 4: not going to change that. Yeah, the question is it

1014
00:47:03,080 --> 00:47:07,680
Speaker 4: is like you know, this this is being negotiated or

1015
00:47:07,719 --> 00:47:13,520
Speaker 4: worked on simultaneously with the President announcing a twenty billion.

1016
00:47:13,239 --> 00:47:15,480
Speaker 1: Dollar subsidy for Argentina.

1017
00:47:15,880 --> 00:47:19,320
Speaker 4: Now that went under the radar screen, you know, radar

1018
00:47:19,400 --> 00:47:22,440
Speaker 4: for most people. But like, why are we sending twenty

1019
00:47:22,480 --> 00:47:24,120
Speaker 4: billion dollars to Argentina?

1020
00:47:24,680 --> 00:47:27,480
Speaker 1: I mean seriously, yeah.

1021
00:47:26,840 --> 00:47:30,280
Speaker 4: When it could easily solve this problem and reopen the government.

1022
00:47:30,600 --> 00:47:32,440
Speaker 4: You know, I just don't get it, Like I I

1023
00:47:32,880 --> 00:47:37,919
Speaker 4: agree that, like, you can't subsidize everything, but so far

1024
00:47:38,000 --> 00:47:42,480
Speaker 4: this administration has picked a few things until you know,

1025
00:47:43,120 --> 00:47:47,440
Speaker 4: maybe some additional companies as like this TikTok deal and

1026
00:47:47,760 --> 00:47:51,719
Speaker 4: some other things. We're not entirely sure and Argentina, but

1027
00:47:52,120 --> 00:47:54,320
Speaker 4: you can't help people pay their health care. That doesn't

1028
00:47:54,320 --> 00:47:55,280
Speaker 4: make any sense.

1029
00:47:55,080 --> 00:47:56,799
Speaker 3: To me zero. Right.

1030
00:47:57,280 --> 00:48:00,200
Speaker 2: He's Greg Landsman, a representative here this morning was only

1031
00:48:00,239 --> 00:48:03,520
Speaker 2: on seven hundred WLW. How long do you perceive this, guy?

1032
00:48:03,520 --> 00:48:05,280
Speaker 2: I mean, you know you're kind of on the inside.

1033
00:48:05,280 --> 00:48:07,719
Speaker 2: You're hearing stuff too. Is how long does this drag on?

1034
00:48:08,239 --> 00:48:10,640
Speaker 2: At What point is enough enough? When is the point made?

1035
00:48:13,200 --> 00:48:13,399
Speaker 9: When?

1036
00:48:13,600 --> 00:48:15,799
Speaker 4: I mean, like, at least for me, like I've got

1037
00:48:15,800 --> 00:48:17,959
Speaker 4: to I've got to keep fighting for the healthcare piece,

1038
00:48:18,040 --> 00:48:19,879
Speaker 4: just because I've got so many constituents who are gonna

1039
00:48:19,880 --> 00:48:21,960
Speaker 4: weep for healthcare if we don't get this done. I

1040
00:48:22,120 --> 00:48:27,320
Speaker 4: suspect that one of two things will happen. Either Trump

1041
00:48:27,360 --> 00:48:30,640
Speaker 4: finally gets involved. I've never seen this happen where the

1042
00:48:30,640 --> 00:48:33,920
Speaker 4: presidents are sort of unplugged, like you do need the

1043
00:48:33,960 --> 00:48:36,719
Speaker 4: president to step in and say, okay, we're going to

1044
00:48:36,760 --> 00:48:39,759
Speaker 4: get a deal done, right, and he has not done

1045
00:48:39,800 --> 00:48:41,959
Speaker 4: that yet. They had an hour meeting in the White

1046
00:48:41,960 --> 00:48:45,399
Speaker 4: House a couple of weeks ago. He mostly just kind

1047
00:48:45,400 --> 00:48:47,239
Speaker 4: of listened. I don't I think he was getting caught

1048
00:48:47,320 --> 00:48:50,520
Speaker 4: up based on my you know, understanding of the meeting,

1049
00:48:50,800 --> 00:48:53,080
Speaker 4: like you need a president, Like if you were a

1050
00:48:53,120 --> 00:48:55,759
Speaker 4: president or I was president, we would we would lock

1051
00:48:55,840 --> 00:48:57,399
Speaker 4: a couple of people in a room and just say

1052
00:48:57,440 --> 00:49:00,640
Speaker 4: get a deal done. That's suicide. Yeah, and and they

1053
00:49:00,680 --> 00:49:03,560
Speaker 4: would get resolved. That's the other option is that it's

1054
00:49:03,600 --> 00:49:06,279
Speaker 4: sort of you know, from the bottom up, which is

1055
00:49:06,280 --> 00:49:10,919
Speaker 4: that there's a group of Senators Jean Shaheen and and

1056
00:49:11,080 --> 00:49:15,719
Speaker 4: Lisa mccowski and a few others, you know, Republican Democrats

1057
00:49:15,760 --> 00:49:18,919
Speaker 4: and a group of us on the House side who

1058
00:49:19,000 --> 00:49:21,400
Speaker 4: have been pushing this notion that you have to just

1059
00:49:21,520 --> 00:49:25,760
Speaker 4: open things up, get the stubs that you done, maybe

1060
00:49:25,800 --> 00:49:30,480
Speaker 4: with some reform, capping it, for example, at a certain

1061
00:49:30,520 --> 00:49:34,920
Speaker 4: income level. Uh and and and and then live to

1062
00:49:34,920 --> 00:49:37,960
Speaker 4: fight another day. And if that happens, I think that

1063
00:49:38,080 --> 00:49:40,359
Speaker 4: forces that forces in the seat.

1064
00:49:40,520 --> 00:49:42,359
Speaker 2: Well, well here's what and and and I think, okay,

1065
00:49:42,360 --> 00:49:43,960
Speaker 2: it may force And then in seven weeks do we

1066
00:49:43,960 --> 00:49:44,800
Speaker 2: do this all over again?

1067
00:49:45,960 --> 00:49:48,799
Speaker 4: No, I wouldn't. Like I'm I'm a big fan of

1068
00:49:48,880 --> 00:49:51,400
Speaker 4: saying like we're not doing this for like, we're not

1069
00:49:51,400 --> 00:49:54,000
Speaker 4: going to do this every couple of weeks. So if

1070
00:49:54,000 --> 00:49:57,760
Speaker 4: we pass a continuing resolution that also includes these healthcare

1071
00:49:58,760 --> 00:50:02,960
Speaker 4: provisions that should beat for the year. And if we

1072
00:50:02,960 --> 00:50:06,600
Speaker 4: can get a budget done, an actual budget, great, then

1073
00:50:06,840 --> 00:50:08,600
Speaker 4: put that on the floor and that can.

1074
00:50:08,520 --> 00:50:10,879
Speaker 2: Be incredibly I got an actual budget done at this point,

1075
00:50:10,920 --> 00:50:12,400
Speaker 2: He's Representative Greg Lansm.

1076
00:50:12,560 --> 00:50:12,759
Speaker 1: Greg.

1077
00:50:12,800 --> 00:50:15,160
Speaker 2: Before I let you go real quick, I want to

1078
00:50:15,200 --> 00:50:18,319
Speaker 2: pivot to another issue here, and that would be the

1079
00:50:18,440 --> 00:50:21,120
Speaker 2: peace in Israel. Hamasa President may fly this weekend to

1080
00:50:21,920 --> 00:50:23,760
Speaker 2: the Middle East of Egypt as a hammer.

1081
00:50:23,800 --> 00:50:24,959
Speaker 3: It looks like we've got a deal.

1082
00:50:25,360 --> 00:50:28,600
Speaker 2: How optimistic are you that this is going to be

1083
00:50:28,640 --> 00:50:30,840
Speaker 2: a lasting piece based on what you've seen.

1084
00:50:30,640 --> 00:50:33,960
Speaker 4: In her I'm cautiously optimistic.

1085
00:50:34,040 --> 00:50:35,799
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, I know the reason why I

1086
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Speaker 1: know these players. Well, I've been there, you know, like

1087
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Speaker 1: con in.

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Speaker 4: The last thirty months, yere, you know, two years, three years,

1089
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Speaker 4: and work there for years. This is something I've cared

1090
00:50:46,080 --> 00:50:48,960
Speaker 4: about for decades, right and working on like I desperately

1091
00:50:49,000 --> 00:50:53,520
Speaker 4: want there to be a lasting piece. It does sound

1092
00:50:53,680 --> 00:50:56,960
Speaker 4: like there's a deal to get the hostages home and

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00:50:57,200 --> 00:51:01,120
Speaker 4: to end the war, which I have been a big

1094
00:51:01,160 --> 00:51:05,800
Speaker 4: proponent of. What happens next is it is still a

1095
00:51:05,880 --> 00:51:08,880
Speaker 4: question for me. Are you know what happens with Kamas,

1096
00:51:09,280 --> 00:51:13,319
Speaker 4: because I think you have to free Gaza of Hamas,

1097
00:51:13,520 --> 00:51:16,920
Speaker 4: both for Palestinians and for Israelis and for the region,

1098
00:51:17,000 --> 00:51:20,279
Speaker 4: like they can't. They can't stay there and continue to

1099
00:51:20,320 --> 00:51:23,680
Speaker 4: dig tunnels and and and kill innocent people and and

1100
00:51:23,840 --> 00:51:28,600
Speaker 4: start start wars. And so this comes back to this

1101
00:51:28,800 --> 00:51:32,719
Speaker 4: coalition of Arab countries, and if if the administration can

1102
00:51:32,800 --> 00:51:37,840
Speaker 4: lock in and dedicate more staff to that coalition and

1103
00:51:38,000 --> 00:51:41,279
Speaker 4: formalizing that coalition so that they are there as a

1104
00:51:41,560 --> 00:51:50,879
Speaker 4: permanent you know, uh, a permanent leadership, uh source right, you.

1105
00:51:50,840 --> 00:51:53,719
Speaker 3: Know that one of the stool, so to speak. There's

1106
00:51:53,719 --> 00:51:54,439
Speaker 3: gonna be a lot of people.

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00:51:54,480 --> 00:51:58,360
Speaker 4: Then I think you have to have a big coalition,

1108
00:51:58,480 --> 00:52:01,120
Speaker 4: particularly of Arab countries, which is how they got this

1109
00:52:01,200 --> 00:52:03,839
Speaker 4: deal done, right, They got to steal done because they

1110
00:52:03,880 --> 00:52:06,640
Speaker 4: pulled this group together, which is what I spent with

1111
00:52:06,800 --> 00:52:09,919
Speaker 4: cock this you know, not to shoot my own horn,

1112
00:52:10,000 --> 00:52:12,080
Speaker 4: but this is this was the plan I sent to

1113
00:52:12,080 --> 00:52:14,799
Speaker 4: with Cough months ago, which is like the path to

1114
00:52:14,880 --> 00:52:18,080
Speaker 4: this is through these airs, through the air of nations.

1115
00:52:18,120 --> 00:52:21,240
Speaker 4: Once they declared they were done with Hamas, the door

1116
00:52:21,360 --> 00:52:24,120
Speaker 4: was open. That was three or four or five months ago.

1117
00:52:24,800 --> 00:52:28,680
Speaker 4: And now you've got to pull them together, which they've

1118
00:52:28,719 --> 00:52:31,440
Speaker 4: done to get this deal done, but then you have

1119
00:52:31,560 --> 00:52:34,360
Speaker 4: to keep them together in order to get to that

1120
00:52:34,480 --> 00:52:35,120
Speaker 4: lasting piece.

1121
00:52:35,640 --> 00:52:35,839
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1122
00:52:35,880 --> 00:52:38,040
Speaker 2: My fear is, as long as you have a ran around,

1123
00:52:38,440 --> 00:52:40,480
Speaker 2: you're going to have some It may not be Hamas

1124
00:52:40,520 --> 00:52:43,240
Speaker 2: and maybe a hoss light or a different group in Tyree,

1125
00:52:43,239 --> 00:52:44,560
Speaker 2: but you're going to that's the problem.

1126
00:52:44,640 --> 00:52:44,799
Speaker 4: Right.

1127
00:52:44,840 --> 00:52:47,759
Speaker 2: So anyway, he is a representative, Greg Lance. Can you

1128
00:52:47,800 --> 00:52:50,560
Speaker 2: go cuff? Can some constituents lawns? I feel like, you

1129
00:52:50,600 --> 00:52:53,160
Speaker 2: know we're doing you're doing something for the people, Greg,

1130
00:52:53,160 --> 00:52:54,840
Speaker 2: because the sitting around is not a good look for

1131
00:52:54,920 --> 00:52:55,319
Speaker 2: you're an.

1132
00:52:55,239 --> 00:52:56,160
Speaker 3: Active guy coming.

1133
00:52:56,840 --> 00:53:00,560
Speaker 4: I am still yeah, but like I have really uh

1134
00:53:01,160 --> 00:53:04,480
Speaker 4: and like desperately trying to you know, get get something

1135
00:53:04,520 --> 00:53:06,520
Speaker 4: resolved here. I also suspended my pay.

1136
00:53:06,880 --> 00:53:10,759
Speaker 9: Yeah, and and and and I go back to DC

1137
00:53:10,960 --> 00:53:14,200
Speaker 9: next week, no matter whether, no matter if the speaker

1138
00:53:14,560 --> 00:53:17,640
Speaker 9: calls us back, I'm going back to just keep plugging

1139
00:53:18,239 --> 00:53:19,600
Speaker 9: along to try to get.

1140
00:53:19,440 --> 00:53:20,279
Speaker 3: This see what you can do?

1141
00:53:20,320 --> 00:53:24,239
Speaker 2: I means, yeah, all right, Well, hey man, I appreciate it. Friend,

1142
00:53:24,239 --> 00:53:26,719
Speaker 2: thanks again for checking in. He is our represent Greg

1143
00:53:26,800 --> 00:53:28,759
Speaker 2: Landsman on The Scotsland Show on seven.

1144
00:53:28,800 --> 00:53:29,440
Speaker 3: Have a great weekend.

1145
00:53:29,440 --> 00:53:32,440
Speaker 2: Okay, be well youbady appreciate it as always, although we

1146
00:53:32,520 --> 00:53:35,560
Speaker 2: disagreed somewhat there, but that's that's actually how it should be,

1147
00:53:35,680 --> 00:53:40,879
Speaker 2: right without screaming at each other. Yeah, I just uh, well,

1148
00:53:40,920 --> 00:53:42,560
Speaker 2: there's a lot of problems with this. I'm running late,

1149
00:53:42,800 --> 00:53:44,600
Speaker 2: and we could kick as the why and how we

1150
00:53:44,640 --> 00:53:46,319
Speaker 2: got here, and a lot of this has to do

1151
00:53:46,400 --> 00:53:49,600
Speaker 2: with executive orders because Biden did it and then Trump said,

1152
00:53:49,600 --> 00:53:52,160
Speaker 2: hold my, hold my diet coke. This is how you

1153
00:53:52,200 --> 00:53:54,680
Speaker 2: do executive orders, and this is how we now govern.

1154
00:53:54,840 --> 00:53:57,200
Speaker 2: The executive order in Congress does nothing, and here we

1155
00:53:57,239 --> 00:53:59,279
Speaker 2: go again. Slaney seven hundred WL.

1156
00:54:05,040 --> 00:54:05,799
Speaker 3: Weekend is here.

1157
00:54:06,160 --> 00:54:09,480
Speaker 2: That means lots of sports. Austin Elmore has a well

1158
00:54:09,520 --> 00:54:11,439
Speaker 2: deserved day off. Actually had the Green Bay.

1159
00:54:11,520 --> 00:54:13,960
Speaker 6: He's in there. He's in the Midland in Wisconsin, he is.

1160
00:54:14,000 --> 00:54:16,239
Speaker 2: And I'll tell you what, I'm glad he took today off,

1161
00:54:16,280 --> 00:54:19,520
Speaker 2: quite honestly, because you need a full three days to

1162
00:54:19,600 --> 00:54:22,080
Speaker 2: experience Green Bay if you've never been and have an opportunity,

1163
00:54:22,160 --> 00:54:23,520
Speaker 2: I highly encourage that.

1164
00:54:23,800 --> 00:54:27,280
Speaker 6: Yeah, he was. He was indulging himself in some cheese

1165
00:54:27,320 --> 00:54:30,040
Speaker 6: curds and some pints yesterday. I saw, right, media, So

1166
00:54:30,120 --> 00:54:32,680
Speaker 6: that's Uh, he's doing it right. They have cheese curds here.

1167
00:54:32,880 --> 00:54:36,520
Speaker 2: I'm just saying they're entirely different in Wisconsin because they're

1168
00:54:36,560 --> 00:54:37,560
Speaker 2: like straight from the cow.

1169
00:54:37,560 --> 00:54:41,759
Speaker 3: There's still it's they're phenomenal, like absolutely.

1170
00:54:41,239 --> 00:54:43,680
Speaker 2: Worth it, just like a cow in the back and

1171
00:54:43,239 --> 00:54:46,880
Speaker 2: they just cranking them out like a cow strabbled across

1172
00:54:46,920 --> 00:54:49,520
Speaker 2: this big, deep frior and just like someone milking in

1173
00:54:49,520 --> 00:54:50,239
Speaker 2: the it just.

1174
00:54:50,200 --> 00:54:52,640
Speaker 3: Goes straight in. So there's that.

1175
00:54:52,760 --> 00:54:56,720
Speaker 2: There's the Hall of Fame, the Packers facility is it's

1176
00:54:56,520 --> 00:55:00,239
Speaker 2: it's really cool. It's really really cool. I don't know

1177
00:55:00,280 --> 00:55:02,319
Speaker 2: how to describe it other than really cool. Like the

1178
00:55:02,400 --> 00:55:06,640
Speaker 2: village around there and it's basically Packer Lands, like a yeah,

1179
00:55:06,640 --> 00:55:08,480
Speaker 2: it's a Wrigley Veal feel to it, you know kind

1180
00:55:08,520 --> 00:55:11,120
Speaker 2: of thing, and it's real questioned and just the hall

1181
00:55:11,160 --> 00:55:14,479
Speaker 2: of Fame inside there's amazing. And then of course walking

1182
00:55:14,480 --> 00:55:16,960
Speaker 2: in the Lambeau a spectacular. So it's just if you

1183
00:55:16,960 --> 00:55:19,479
Speaker 2: have a chance to go, soak it all in, soak

1184
00:55:19,560 --> 00:55:21,440
Speaker 2: it all in. So Rick Uccino is here. He just

1185
00:55:21,480 --> 00:55:23,680
Speaker 2: did the news. He runs into here breathlessly. Brick also

1186
00:55:23,760 --> 00:55:25,560
Speaker 2: in addition to the many other hats he wears here,

1187
00:55:25,560 --> 00:55:28,400
Speaker 2: because we all wear many hats uh. He covered the

1188
00:55:28,440 --> 00:55:31,880
Speaker 2: Bengals for Cerrus XM satellite radio. And So, if you

1189
00:55:31,920 --> 00:55:34,680
Speaker 2: think things are bad in Cincinnati with Joe Flacco coming here,

1190
00:55:34,680 --> 00:55:37,600
Speaker 2: with the Reds getting this clay, we made the postseason

1191
00:55:37,640 --> 00:55:40,359
Speaker 2: and gone swept by the Dodgers, who look like they

1192
00:55:40,400 --> 00:55:42,799
Speaker 2: may be the World Series champs. You think it's bad here,

1193
00:55:44,000 --> 00:55:47,080
Speaker 2: it could be worse. She could be Philly. Philly gets

1194
00:55:47,840 --> 00:55:51,080
Speaker 2: just trucked last night by the New York Giants and

1195
00:55:51,120 --> 00:55:54,319
Speaker 2: a wet behind the years quarterback who's playing like the

1196
00:55:54,360 --> 00:55:56,120
Speaker 2: second incarnation of Pat Mahomes and.

1197
00:55:56,120 --> 00:55:59,160
Speaker 3: Josh Allen's playing like he doesn't.

1198
00:55:59,200 --> 00:56:03,160
Speaker 2: Thirty four to seventeen, Philly gets whooped, puts their legacy

1199
00:56:03,239 --> 00:56:06,440
Speaker 2: in question. And last night, the most improbable thing of

1200
00:56:06,480 --> 00:56:09,880
Speaker 2: all happened in that Dodgers game. Dodgers put it away,

1201
00:56:10,760 --> 00:56:13,600
Speaker 2: it's one to one, the head of the eleventh inning,

1202
00:56:13,680 --> 00:56:17,640
Speaker 2: there's two outs, the run around first and third. Kirkering

1203
00:56:17,719 --> 00:56:21,799
Speaker 2: comes in and he walks the bases loaded, and then

1204
00:56:22,040 --> 00:56:25,200
Speaker 2: the play that looks like it's a Little League where

1205
00:56:25,239 --> 00:56:28,640
Speaker 2: the balls hit back to the mound, not hard, kind

1206
00:56:28,680 --> 00:56:31,600
Speaker 2: of weird, maybe a weird role on its spin, and

1207
00:56:31,800 --> 00:56:34,440
Speaker 2: he flubs it instead of throwing the first where he

1208
00:56:34,480 --> 00:56:36,440
Speaker 2: clearly had the out. He throws it home and misses

1209
00:56:36,480 --> 00:56:39,000
Speaker 2: him by a country mile, and it was maybe a

1210
00:56:39,000 --> 00:56:40,200
Speaker 2: fifteen twenty foot throw.

1211
00:56:40,680 --> 00:56:42,960
Speaker 6: Yeah, you ever play billiards and you didn't chalk the

1212
00:56:43,040 --> 00:56:45,640
Speaker 6: que up enough, That's what it looked like. It looked

1213
00:56:45,640 --> 00:56:48,400
Speaker 6: like that little skip right off the bat and it

1214
00:56:48,480 --> 00:56:50,600
Speaker 6: hits him in the shoe and it rolls away and

1215
00:56:50,640 --> 00:56:54,799
Speaker 6: it man, it was just he just panicked because if

1216
00:56:54,800 --> 00:56:57,320
Speaker 6: he just turn first off, he tries to throw home

1217
00:56:58,000 --> 00:57:01,360
Speaker 6: with his catcher pointing to Ward's first base, He's like,

1218
00:57:01,719 --> 00:57:05,359
Speaker 6: throw the ball there, We're fine, and Steady loves it

1219
00:57:06,160 --> 00:57:11,959
Speaker 6: way wide. What what have been? And yeah, just ballgame over.

1220
00:57:12,040 --> 00:57:13,880
Speaker 6: If he just turns to his left and looks at

1221
00:57:13,880 --> 00:57:16,560
Speaker 6: first base, the runner, I forget who's out the plate

1222
00:57:16,600 --> 00:57:19,800
Speaker 6: at the time, he's only halfway to first. He has

1223
00:57:19,840 --> 00:57:21,840
Speaker 6: more than enough time to throw that ball. Yeah, he

1224
00:57:21,880 --> 00:57:22,680
Speaker 6: continue the game.

1225
00:57:22,840 --> 00:57:25,040
Speaker 4: It was Jesse.

1226
00:57:25,320 --> 00:57:27,760
Speaker 6: It's one of those moments, that one of those situations

1227
00:57:27,760 --> 00:57:29,680
Speaker 6: that you dream about, but you never know how you're

1228
00:57:29,720 --> 00:57:31,840
Speaker 6: going to react in that situation, and it was just

1229
00:57:31,960 --> 00:57:34,080
Speaker 6: sheer panic and chaos and not the way you want

1230
00:57:34,120 --> 00:57:37,480
Speaker 6: your season to end. But still I will argue, by

1231
00:57:37,520 --> 00:57:40,520
Speaker 6: the way, I will happily be a Philadelphia sports fan

1232
00:57:40,560 --> 00:57:42,960
Speaker 6: this morning if I could be considering, Yeah, the Eagles

1233
00:57:42,960 --> 00:57:45,880
Speaker 6: loss last night, there's still the defending Super Bowl champion.

1234
00:57:46,120 --> 00:57:50,440
Speaker 2: I'll take that hangover place. Philly does have a world championship.

1235
00:57:50,280 --> 00:57:53,880
Speaker 6: In life, my cognitive lifetime. Yes, last time the reds one,

1236
00:57:53,920 --> 00:57:54,320
Speaker 6: I was two.

1237
00:57:54,560 --> 00:57:55,640
Speaker 3: I get it. I get it.

1238
00:57:55,880 --> 00:57:58,160
Speaker 2: I'm so just saying if Philly today is and can

1239
00:57:58,200 --> 00:58:00,640
Speaker 2: you imagine being Kirkering and going back to Philly, Like

1240
00:58:00,680 --> 00:58:03,040
Speaker 2: I just go, hey, you know what, I'm just gonna

1241
00:58:03,080 --> 00:58:03,480
Speaker 2: stay here.

1242
00:58:03,960 --> 00:58:06,000
Speaker 6: That man got shoved in a locker last night that

1243
00:58:07,160 --> 00:58:09,240
Speaker 6: I could just see Kylee Schwarber chasing him around with

1244
00:58:09,280 --> 00:58:11,280
Speaker 6: the Batsay Good in.

1245
00:58:10,200 --> 00:58:13,160
Speaker 2: The plane back like TSA is waiting for him. It's like,

1246
00:58:13,200 --> 00:58:16,240
Speaker 2: I'm not I'm leaving. No, we're gonna go through your stuff. Yeah,

1247
00:58:16,320 --> 00:58:20,120
Speaker 2: we're going through your stuff. Let's start with this. Uh,

1248
00:58:20,160 --> 00:58:23,240
Speaker 2: we have the Bengals and we have the Packers. Sunday

1249
00:58:23,240 --> 00:58:25,520
Speaker 2: four twenty five, Dan and Lamp with the call at

1250
00:58:25,560 --> 00:58:27,760
Speaker 2: Dan on the first hour of the show, Joe Flacco

1251
00:58:27,880 --> 00:58:31,240
Speaker 2: comes into town, four year old quarterback Like when this

1252
00:58:31,360 --> 00:58:34,720
Speaker 2: broke you're reading I asked this to everyone. What was

1253
00:58:34,720 --> 00:58:36,440
Speaker 2: your first reaction was like your gut reaction?

1254
00:58:36,600 --> 00:58:40,560
Speaker 6: Thank god? Was that really honestly in all sincerity because

1255
00:58:40,560 --> 00:58:43,280
Speaker 6: they had to do something, Scott, Yeah, they had to

1256
00:58:43,400 --> 00:58:46,760
Speaker 6: do something. It could have been anybody. It could have

1257
00:58:46,800 --> 00:58:49,280
Speaker 6: been Sam Howell, it could have been any other quarterback

1258
00:58:49,280 --> 00:58:51,200
Speaker 6: out there. Because I'm watching this game. I was there

1259
00:58:51,200 --> 00:58:53,640
Speaker 6: at pay Horse Stadium on Sunday and I am watching

1260
00:58:53,720 --> 00:58:57,960
Speaker 6: Jake Browning play the worst game of football I've ever

1261
00:58:58,000 --> 00:59:02,840
Speaker 6: seen a quarterback play in my life. He is misreading,

1262
00:59:02,920 --> 00:59:05,720
Speaker 6: he is misthrowing, he is panicking, he is playing with

1263
00:59:05,760 --> 00:59:10,680
Speaker 6: absolutely no confidence. The entire stadium is booing him out

1264
00:59:10,800 --> 00:59:15,000
Speaker 6: of the building, praying that Zach Taylor brings in Brett Rippon.

1265
00:59:15,360 --> 00:59:17,760
Speaker 6: And the fact that Zach Taylor didn't bring in Brett

1266
00:59:17,800 --> 00:59:20,640
Speaker 6: Rippon when his quarterback has played that bad for twelve

1267
00:59:20,720 --> 00:59:24,760
Speaker 6: straight quarters shows you what they thought of Brett Rippon

1268
00:59:24,880 --> 00:59:27,880
Speaker 6: in that situation. And You're like, there's no quarterback on

1269
00:59:27,920 --> 00:59:29,880
Speaker 6: this roster that gives them a chance to be not

1270
00:59:30,040 --> 00:59:33,280
Speaker 6: just win, but be competitive. They had to do something.

1271
00:59:33,640 --> 00:59:36,440
Speaker 6: So seeing a guy who, yeah, he hasn't been playing

1272
00:59:36,440 --> 00:59:39,800
Speaker 6: that great this season, but the offense in Cleveland is

1273
00:59:39,840 --> 00:59:43,360
Speaker 6: not exactly surrounded with talent to help him out outside

1274
00:59:43,360 --> 00:59:46,200
Speaker 6: of the tight end position. To see them go out

1275
00:59:46,240 --> 00:59:48,480
Speaker 6: and make an in season trade, which they rarely do,

1276
00:59:48,800 --> 00:59:51,040
Speaker 6: to actually make a trade with the division rival that

1277
00:59:51,040 --> 00:59:54,600
Speaker 6: they've never pulled off before, shows you that they knew

1278
00:59:54,640 --> 00:59:56,400
Speaker 6: they had to do something, and they went out and

1279
00:59:56,440 --> 00:59:59,240
Speaker 6: they did something, and it cannot get worse. It can't

1280
00:59:59,280 --> 00:59:59,640
Speaker 6: get worse.

1281
01:00:00,240 --> 01:00:03,800
Speaker 2: My initial reaction was like, oh God, Joe Flacco can't move.

1282
01:00:03,840 --> 01:00:06,040
Speaker 2: He's forty years old, and like he's been benched for

1283
01:00:06,080 --> 01:00:07,920
Speaker 2: a reason. And I understand that, And Okay, I know

1284
01:00:07,960 --> 01:00:10,120
Speaker 2: you got to ge Dylan Gabriel and maybe Shooter Sanders,

1285
01:00:10,120 --> 01:00:12,080
Speaker 2: and you know, quarterbacks die in Cleveland.

1286
01:00:12,120 --> 01:00:12,760
Speaker 3: I understand that.

1287
01:00:13,160 --> 01:00:14,680
Speaker 2: And then it struck me as like, you know what,

1288
01:00:14,720 --> 01:00:16,640
Speaker 2: but I'm gonna watch. I'm gonna listen to this game.

1289
01:00:16,680 --> 01:00:17,040
Speaker 3: And I went.

1290
01:00:17,320 --> 01:00:21,200
Speaker 2: Then it worked because this weekend I was planning on, like,

1291
01:00:21,760 --> 01:00:23,360
Speaker 2: you know, I can't do much with my foot, but

1292
01:00:23,680 --> 01:00:26,520
Speaker 2: like it wasn't gonna be spending a beautiful Sunday afternoon

1293
01:00:26,560 --> 01:00:28,919
Speaker 2: because the weather's amazing sitting inside watching the Bengals screw

1294
01:00:28,960 --> 01:00:32,520
Speaker 2: things up. Yeah, now I'm gonna watch. So it worked

1295
01:00:32,640 --> 01:00:34,600
Speaker 2: you can either be bad or interesting.

1296
01:00:34,680 --> 01:00:38,240
Speaker 6: I would rather you be interesting, right, Joe Flacco is

1297
01:00:38,240 --> 01:00:41,080
Speaker 6: is now interesting and you know you can as and

1298
01:00:41,120 --> 01:00:43,600
Speaker 6: trust me, we we have a lot of practices with this.

1299
01:00:43,600 --> 01:00:46,080
Speaker 6: As Bengals fans, you kind of talk yourself into being

1300
01:00:46,160 --> 01:00:50,520
Speaker 6: cautiously optimistic about this. Joe Flacco for his entire career

1301
01:00:51,800 --> 01:00:54,080
Speaker 6: right now arguably has the best weapons that he has

1302
01:00:54,160 --> 01:00:57,680
Speaker 6: ever had available to him. And I think the hope

1303
01:00:57,800 --> 01:01:00,000
Speaker 6: is if you're the Bengals, if you're a Bengals fan,

1304
01:01:00,360 --> 01:01:03,240
Speaker 6: you can look at everything that Jake Browning wasn't doing

1305
01:01:03,600 --> 01:01:05,800
Speaker 6: and you can hope that Joe Flacco can do that.

1306
01:01:06,120 --> 01:01:08,920
Speaker 6: Can he actually make the right decision on an RPO

1307
01:01:09,080 --> 01:01:11,280
Speaker 6: with a stacked box instead of handing it off to

1308
01:01:11,440 --> 01:01:14,040
Speaker 6: Chase Brown, look over to his left and throw it

1309
01:01:14,080 --> 01:01:16,000
Speaker 6: to Jamar Chase when he's got two guys in front

1310
01:01:16,000 --> 01:01:18,400
Speaker 6: of him and they're perfectly blocked. Can he make that

1311
01:01:18,560 --> 01:01:22,520
Speaker 6: simple throw? Can he analyze the play beforehand and realize

1312
01:01:22,520 --> 01:01:24,680
Speaker 6: he's got Chase Brown one on one with a linebacker

1313
01:01:24,760 --> 01:01:27,080
Speaker 6: and that dude is going to get cooked, and just

1314
01:01:27,160 --> 01:01:29,000
Speaker 6: throwed wide open across the middle of the field for

1315
01:01:29,000 --> 01:01:31,320
Speaker 6: a touchdown instead of trying to hit te Higgins on

1316
01:01:31,360 --> 01:01:33,800
Speaker 6: a fade route when he's double covered. Like these were

1317
01:01:34,000 --> 01:01:38,520
Speaker 6: simple breakdown plays and this that's Tony Pike's work.

1318
01:01:38,560 --> 01:01:41,320
Speaker 2: By the way, that I'm checkdowns, So it says a

1319
01:01:41,320 --> 01:01:42,040
Speaker 2: lot about the cubit.

1320
01:01:42,160 --> 01:01:45,240
Speaker 6: Yeah, you're you're just making terrible decisions. Some of his

1321
01:01:45,280 --> 01:01:49,720
Speaker 6: interceptions were absolutely awful. Didn't know who he was throwing to.

1322
01:01:49,800 --> 01:01:52,280
Speaker 6: Somehow didn't see linebackers in the middle of the field.

1323
01:01:52,560 --> 01:01:55,600
Speaker 6: It wasn't until the fourth quarter on Sunday when you

1324
01:01:55,640 --> 01:01:58,200
Speaker 6: know he didn't matter, it didn't count. Pressure was off

1325
01:01:58,240 --> 01:02:00,000
Speaker 6: that he started making plays and he played a little

1326
01:02:00,160 --> 01:02:03,200
Speaker 6: more relaxed. They had to do something. Hopefully Joe can

1327
01:02:03,240 --> 01:02:06,680
Speaker 6: come in here, as as Jamar Chase eloquently said yesterday,

1328
01:02:06,920 --> 01:02:09,240
Speaker 6: do your job, get the ball to me and Tea

1329
01:02:09,360 --> 01:02:11,240
Speaker 6: and let us go. Let us do what we do

1330
01:02:11,280 --> 01:02:13,120
Speaker 6: and let let these guys make some play which I

1331
01:02:13,160 --> 01:02:15,040
Speaker 6: think they can be competitive.

1332
01:02:14,560 --> 01:02:15,960
Speaker 2: Which I think if you bring it back to last

1333
01:02:16,040 --> 01:02:18,200
Speaker 2: night's Dodgers Phillies game, I mean a lot of Reds

1334
01:02:18,240 --> 01:02:20,400
Speaker 2: fans slash Bengals can empathize with the kickering because he

1335
01:02:20,440 --> 01:02:22,280
Speaker 2: looked like Jake Browning out there, and that last play

1336
01:02:22,320 --> 01:02:23,840
Speaker 2: of the game in the eleventh. Then he was like,

1337
01:02:23,920 --> 01:02:27,640
Speaker 2: that's what our quarterback's been, Yes, largely for the last

1338
01:02:27,640 --> 01:02:30,400
Speaker 2: few games. Like he just seems scared in his own head.

1339
01:02:30,560 --> 01:02:33,160
Speaker 2: It's not physical, it's mental. And you know it's been

1340
01:02:33,160 --> 01:02:34,840
Speaker 2: a few couple of years since he last played and

1341
01:02:34,840 --> 01:02:36,000
Speaker 2: flashed really well in twenty three.

1342
01:02:36,080 --> 01:02:37,320
Speaker 3: Well it's twenty five, ninety eight.

1343
01:02:37,520 --> 01:02:39,920
Speaker 2: So I'm in the Joe Flacco thing, which I'll be honestly,

1344
01:02:39,960 --> 01:02:41,520
Speaker 2: I think like the rest of the NFL is watching

1345
01:02:41,560 --> 01:02:43,880
Speaker 2: this going kind of rooting for the Bengals and this going, Hey,

1346
01:02:43,880 --> 01:02:48,440
Speaker 2: here's old man Flacco, you know, twenty ninth quarterback that

1347
01:02:48,520 --> 01:02:52,200
Speaker 2: the Browns have had in the last twenty years. And

1348
01:02:52,280 --> 01:02:56,240
Speaker 2: now he goes to Cincinnati, a division opponent, the Brown route,

1349
01:02:56,240 --> 01:02:57,640
Speaker 2: you know, the Brown family, and he goes and he

1350
01:02:57,640 --> 01:02:59,560
Speaker 2: starts winning football games, and like, you want to cheer

1351
01:02:59,560 --> 01:03:01,520
Speaker 2: for Joe fla now in the in the Bengals because

1352
01:03:01,520 --> 01:03:03,920
Speaker 2: they've been so bad, and like, can he save the season?

1353
01:03:04,320 --> 01:03:06,200
Speaker 2: You know, it's not out of reach. They've lost three straight.

1354
01:03:06,200 --> 01:03:09,280
Speaker 2: They're two and three. I think not eight, maybe eight,

1355
01:03:09,360 --> 01:03:11,160
Speaker 2: but probably like nine is gonna win the division.

1356
01:03:11,200 --> 01:03:13,520
Speaker 6: So you're justicably, I mean it all depends on whether

1357
01:03:13,520 --> 01:03:16,520
Speaker 6: the Steelers can hang on because Baltimore is in a

1358
01:03:16,720 --> 01:03:19,160
Speaker 6: world to hurt right now. They're one and four. Lamar

1359
01:03:19,240 --> 01:03:21,000
Speaker 6: Jackson is not going to play again this week, and

1360
01:03:21,040 --> 01:03:23,840
Speaker 6: I is Baltimore playing Detroit this week? I think I

1361
01:03:23,840 --> 01:03:27,600
Speaker 6: can't remember who they who they play, but yeah, they're there.

1362
01:03:27,640 --> 01:03:29,440
Speaker 6: I know they're playing a good team this weekend. So

1363
01:03:29,480 --> 01:03:32,400
Speaker 6: they're staring at one and five with their quarterback situation

1364
01:03:32,480 --> 01:03:35,400
Speaker 6: also hurt. The Kansas City Chiefs are two and three

1365
01:03:35,800 --> 01:03:37,920
Speaker 6: to start the season and they have I actually I

1366
01:03:37,920 --> 01:03:39,880
Speaker 6: think it's Kansas City who plays Detroit this week, so

1367
01:03:39,960 --> 01:03:44,360
Speaker 6: they could possibly be two and four. You know, the

1368
01:03:44,360 --> 01:03:46,960
Speaker 6: the the AFC is so wide open and this and

1369
01:03:47,320 --> 01:03:52,400
Speaker 6: the schedule for the Bengals gets so much easier after

1370
01:03:52,480 --> 01:03:56,360
Speaker 6: these next two games. Granted, you're gonna there's a good

1371
01:03:56,440 --> 01:03:57,960
Speaker 6: chance you're going to be two and five after those

1372
01:03:57,960 --> 01:03:59,800
Speaker 6: two games, but we've seen this team make late runs.

1373
01:03:59,840 --> 01:04:03,520
Speaker 6: BEFO for can Joe Flacco be serviceable? Make them competitive

1374
01:04:03,800 --> 01:04:06,320
Speaker 6: and see if the defense can help you out and

1375
01:04:06,320 --> 01:04:08,320
Speaker 6: help you win some of these these games and just

1376
01:04:08,440 --> 01:04:11,240
Speaker 6: keep it close enough to where hopefully the other Joe

1377
01:04:11,280 --> 01:04:13,000
Speaker 6: can come back and maybe this team can make a

1378
01:04:13,040 --> 01:04:15,080
Speaker 6: run because once we've seen it before, once you get

1379
01:04:15,120 --> 01:04:18,720
Speaker 6: into the playoffs, anything can happen. Yeah, right, just you

1380
01:04:18,840 --> 01:04:20,000
Speaker 6: just got to be the hot team at the right

1381
01:04:20,320 --> 01:04:21,960
Speaker 6: exactly who can get hot. And if you can get

1382
01:04:22,040 --> 01:04:24,520
Speaker 6: Joe Burrow back at that point. Not a guarantee, not

1383
01:04:24,520 --> 01:04:26,160
Speaker 6: a guarantee, you don't know, But I would think that

1384
01:04:26,200 --> 01:04:29,120
Speaker 6: they signed him. By the way the Rams Baltimore ramscon

1385
01:04:29,720 --> 01:04:30,439
Speaker 6: Baltimore Rams.

1386
01:04:30,440 --> 01:04:36,160
Speaker 2: They Baltimore, Baltimore and Baltimore in the Rams this weekend. Yeah,

1387
01:04:36,240 --> 01:04:38,600
Speaker 2: I I I look at that and go, well, it

1388
01:04:38,680 --> 01:04:41,000
Speaker 2: tells me that they think Burrow is going to come back.

1389
01:04:41,000 --> 01:04:43,280
Speaker 2: You want to be optimistic, right in, Joe Burg's gonna

1390
01:04:43,280 --> 01:04:45,800
Speaker 2: fight like hell to come back this season. If the

1391
01:04:45,840 --> 01:04:47,840
Speaker 2: season's out of reach, you know, there's no reason to

1392
01:04:47,840 --> 01:04:49,520
Speaker 2: bring him back, right. So if you want to think

1393
01:04:49,560 --> 01:04:52,120
Speaker 2: that all those things come together and Joe Flacco can

1394
01:04:52,160 --> 01:04:54,760
Speaker 2: we get six games or I about six games out

1395
01:04:54,760 --> 01:04:55,960
Speaker 2: of Joe Flacco, right.

1396
01:04:55,800 --> 01:05:00,800
Speaker 6: And that's the starting three st huge because it gave

1397
01:05:00,840 --> 01:05:03,080
Speaker 6: him a cushion. Unfortunately it's gone now with these last

1398
01:05:03,400 --> 01:05:06,800
Speaker 6: these last three games. I would still be stunned if

1399
01:05:06,800 --> 01:05:08,840
Speaker 6: they win this weekend. But I don't think the game

1400
01:05:08,840 --> 01:05:13,720
Speaker 6: against Pittsburgh is at home Thursday Night football. Joe Burrow obviously,

1401
01:05:13,800 --> 01:05:16,640
Speaker 6: or just Joe Burrow, Joe Flacco obviously knows the Pittsburgh

1402
01:05:16,640 --> 01:05:20,840
Speaker 6: Steelers very well. Bad jeriatric Joe and Tojo those are

1403
01:05:20,840 --> 01:05:23,880
Speaker 6: the two that we got. But you know, Joe Flacco

1404
01:05:23,960 --> 01:05:26,160
Speaker 6: knows the Pittsburgh Steelers very well. I still believe that

1405
01:05:26,160 --> 01:05:28,440
Speaker 6: that is a winnable game. And then after that you

1406
01:05:28,440 --> 01:05:30,000
Speaker 6: get the Jets and the Bears, and then it's the

1407
01:05:30,040 --> 01:05:32,120
Speaker 6: bye week. Can you find a way to win two

1408
01:05:32,160 --> 01:05:33,280
Speaker 6: games over these next four?

1409
01:05:33,600 --> 01:05:33,880
Speaker 3: Right?

1410
01:05:33,920 --> 01:05:36,440
Speaker 6: And then you're still right there. You're four and five.

1411
01:05:36,720 --> 01:05:39,480
Speaker 6: You're right in the thick of it, and hopefully you

1412
01:05:39,520 --> 01:05:41,920
Speaker 6: can stay competitive and be within striking distance. Because I'll

1413
01:05:41,920 --> 01:05:43,800
Speaker 6: tell you this much. You know, Joe Burrow is doing

1414
01:05:43,800 --> 01:05:46,400
Speaker 6: everything he can do to come back and listening to

1415
01:05:46,680 --> 01:05:49,240
Speaker 6: Joe Danaman Fox nineteen talked to Austin Ellmore this week

1416
01:05:49,320 --> 01:05:52,720
Speaker 6: on Sincy three sixty. Joe Burrow is already walking around

1417
01:05:52,800 --> 01:05:55,200
Speaker 6: in the clubhouse. Granted he's got a walking boot on

1418
01:05:55,280 --> 01:05:58,000
Speaker 6: right now. He's caught up to you as far as

1419
01:05:58,000 --> 01:05:59,560
Speaker 6: though I don't think he had a scooter.

1420
01:05:59,640 --> 01:06:03,080
Speaker 2: He was walking around you dare compare me to Joe Burrow.

1421
01:06:03,120 --> 01:06:06,080
Speaker 2: I'm tougher than Joe Burrow. You both got boots, are

1422
01:06:06,160 --> 01:06:08,479
Speaker 2: a severed tendon in my foot, and I'm walking around

1423
01:06:08,560 --> 01:06:10,640
Speaker 2: doing stuff. This guy gets a toe injury and he's

1424
01:06:10,680 --> 01:06:13,040
Speaker 2: down for three months, and he's got thirty years on me.

1425
01:06:13,120 --> 01:06:15,200
Speaker 6: Come on the fact that he's already walking around in

1426
01:06:15,240 --> 01:06:18,040
Speaker 6: the clubhouse boot or not. That's that's encouraging to me.

1427
01:06:18,080 --> 01:06:20,160
Speaker 6: I'm not a medical professional, but that's encouraging to me.

1428
01:06:20,200 --> 01:06:21,880
Speaker 6: That seems the head of schedule. I'm not sure, but

1429
01:06:22,120 --> 01:06:24,520
Speaker 6: I have some optimism there. Yeah, you just hope and

1430
01:06:25,240 --> 01:06:27,080
Speaker 6: with a striking distance or there's no point. But I

1431
01:06:27,160 --> 01:06:29,880
Speaker 6: know Joe is trying to get back, so the team

1432
01:06:29,920 --> 01:06:31,720
Speaker 6: has to try to keep it, keep it alive for him.

1433
01:06:31,760 --> 01:06:36,040
Speaker 2: Okay, and we're gonna watch this weekend simply because it's

1434
01:06:36,080 --> 01:06:37,880
Speaker 2: like kind of want to root for this underdog. We're

1435
01:06:37,960 --> 01:06:39,919
Speaker 2: Joe Flacco coming in Storry and the Bengals are still

1436
01:06:39,920 --> 01:06:42,560
Speaker 2: they're close and they've got the pieces there. But the

1437
01:06:42,600 --> 01:06:44,000
Speaker 2: thing that scares me most I point out the day

1438
01:06:44,000 --> 01:06:45,720
Speaker 2: and Horde. It seems like this whole game, no, there's

1439
01:06:45,720 --> 01:06:47,680
Speaker 2: always nuances, you know, the three phases of the game.

1440
01:06:47,720 --> 01:06:50,920
Speaker 2: But it's like everything stems from what is going to

1441
01:06:50,960 --> 01:06:54,160
Speaker 2: happen with that offensive line, Like can you get sacked

1442
01:06:54,160 --> 01:06:54,720
Speaker 2: a couple of times?

1443
01:06:54,720 --> 01:06:56,880
Speaker 3: Okay, But if it's a regular thing, and.

1444
01:06:56,840 --> 01:06:59,520
Speaker 2: The Bengals offensive line has made some improvements, I think

1445
01:06:59,520 --> 01:07:01,920
Speaker 2: they'll gaming Detroit. They weren't as bad as they've been

1446
01:07:01,920 --> 01:07:04,600
Speaker 2: in the past, but it's not gonna take much to

1447
01:07:05,000 --> 01:07:07,400
Speaker 2: knock Joe Flacco down and throw them off his kid.

1448
01:07:08,040 --> 01:07:11,000
Speaker 2: Can they prolong the agony and we'll get to why

1449
01:07:11,000 --> 01:07:13,240
Speaker 2: there's gonna be agony this weekend long enough for this

1450
01:07:13,280 --> 01:07:15,680
Speaker 2: guy to make a pass downfield to Tea or Jamar

1451
01:07:16,760 --> 01:07:18,640
Speaker 2: and keep the game close, if not competitive.

1452
01:07:18,720 --> 01:07:18,919
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1453
01:07:18,960 --> 01:07:22,360
Speaker 6: So, I don't know. I I might be in the

1454
01:07:22,360 --> 01:07:24,400
Speaker 6: minority here because I'm watching these last few games and

1455
01:07:24,400 --> 01:07:26,480
Speaker 6: I'm going I don't think the defense and the offensive

1456
01:07:26,480 --> 01:07:29,680
Speaker 6: line performed as badly as what everybody's gonna make it

1457
01:07:29,680 --> 01:07:31,240
Speaker 6: out to be, because I do believe the play of

1458
01:07:31,880 --> 01:07:34,480
Speaker 6: Jake Brown and got the team down, brought the team

1459
01:07:34,520 --> 01:07:37,560
Speaker 6: down that badly. He had time to throw, He absolutely

1460
01:07:37,560 --> 01:07:39,480
Speaker 6: had time to throw. He did and some times he

1461
01:07:39,520 --> 01:07:41,560
Speaker 6: did and he still met me. He had as clean

1462
01:07:41,600 --> 01:07:43,240
Speaker 6: a pocket as you will ever see when he was

1463
01:07:43,240 --> 01:07:44,960
Speaker 6: backed up in his own end zone and decided to

1464
01:07:45,000 --> 01:07:47,440
Speaker 6: and just completely missed the ball to Jamar Chase that

1465
01:07:47,520 --> 01:07:50,080
Speaker 6: ended up being picked off, and then they're twenty yards

1466
01:07:50,080 --> 01:07:52,280
Speaker 6: out and the defense gives up a touchdown. Right, the

1467
01:07:52,360 --> 01:07:55,800
Speaker 6: defense is back to that you know, bend but don't break.

1468
01:07:56,960 --> 01:07:59,520
Speaker 6: Force some timely turnovers, but if you give him a

1469
01:07:59,520 --> 01:08:02,200
Speaker 6: short fear yield, chances are that's probably gonna turn.

1470
01:08:02,200 --> 01:08:05,160
Speaker 3: They can be pretty mid's.

1471
01:08:04,480 --> 01:08:07,040
Speaker 6: But that's coming into this season, that's what everybody said

1472
01:08:08,960 --> 01:08:11,280
Speaker 6: will carry you. Unfortunately, that doesn't work without Joe.

1473
01:08:11,800 --> 01:08:13,800
Speaker 2: The line to be better, and that's of course killing

1474
01:08:13,800 --> 01:08:15,600
Speaker 2: the run game too, because yes, that's.

1475
01:08:15,760 --> 01:08:17,640
Speaker 6: That's the biggest thing for me still, because I think

1476
01:08:17,720 --> 01:08:19,960
Speaker 6: Joe Flacco is going to be able to make quick

1477
01:08:20,000 --> 01:08:22,760
Speaker 6: decisions and get the ball out, if nothing more in

1478
01:08:22,800 --> 01:08:24,760
Speaker 6: the fact that he's forty years old, he doesn't want

1479
01:08:24,800 --> 01:08:26,640
Speaker 6: to get hit anymore, so he's going to throw the

1480
01:08:26,640 --> 01:08:29,559
Speaker 6: ball away. He's gonna make the quick decisions he's going

1481
01:08:29,640 --> 01:08:31,599
Speaker 6: to get I don't expect him to come out here,

1482
01:08:31,600 --> 01:08:33,439
Speaker 6: and I might be wrong. I don't expect him to

1483
01:08:33,479 --> 01:08:35,040
Speaker 6: drop back and sit in the pocket and try to

1484
01:08:35,120 --> 01:08:37,360
Speaker 6: hit forty yard bombs downfield even though he's still kicking.

1485
01:08:37,400 --> 01:08:39,320
Speaker 6: Any doing that, you're going to need a couple. But

1486
01:08:39,360 --> 01:08:41,080
Speaker 6: I don't expect that to be the game plan. I

1487
01:08:41,120 --> 01:08:44,320
Speaker 6: expect to see crossing routes across the middle, quick dump boss,

1488
01:08:44,439 --> 01:08:46,360
Speaker 6: kind of similar to what we saw Joe Flacco do

1489
01:08:46,520 --> 01:08:49,599
Speaker 6: against the Bengals in Week one and had some success

1490
01:08:49,600 --> 01:08:51,000
Speaker 6: and was moving the ball down the field.

1491
01:08:51,240 --> 01:08:55,400
Speaker 2: But he has much better weapons now he did. But again,

1492
01:08:55,439 --> 01:08:57,240
Speaker 2: there's back to that line in the run game. If

1493
01:08:57,280 --> 01:08:59,479
Speaker 2: you don't have the run game that throws, there's got

1494
01:08:59,520 --> 01:09:01,280
Speaker 2: to be a threat with run and it hasn't been.

1495
01:09:01,320 --> 01:09:04,280
Speaker 6: They got to get that figured out. And yeah, I

1496
01:09:04,360 --> 01:09:06,559
Speaker 6: mean they had they had some space last week, they

1497
01:09:06,600 --> 01:09:08,400
Speaker 6: just didn't run it that much. They threw it. They

1498
01:09:08,479 --> 01:09:11,000
Speaker 6: ran it eleven times, I believe last week they ended up,

1499
01:09:11,520 --> 01:09:11,960
Speaker 6: but they.

1500
01:09:11,800 --> 01:09:14,600
Speaker 2: Were down by like four scores. It's been amped up

1501
01:09:14,600 --> 01:09:17,679
Speaker 2: because you're in Green Bay. But you've also got Rashan

1502
01:09:17,720 --> 01:09:19,799
Speaker 2: Gary and Micah Parsons.

1503
01:09:19,880 --> 01:09:22,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a problem. That's a huge problem. That's that's

1504
01:09:22,000 --> 01:09:23,360
Speaker 3: a problem. That's a big, big.

1505
01:09:23,479 --> 01:09:25,880
Speaker 6: And one of the biggest worries for me this season

1506
01:09:26,360 --> 01:09:29,160
Speaker 6: is watching the decline over Orlando Brown junior. He has

1507
01:09:29,200 --> 01:09:31,960
Speaker 6: been a turnstile at left tackle and he's got to

1508
01:09:31,960 --> 01:09:35,000
Speaker 6: get something figured out there. But yeah, there's still concerns

1509
01:09:35,040 --> 01:09:38,479
Speaker 6: for Sunday, Don't get me. There's a lot of concerns

1510
01:09:38,880 --> 01:09:40,720
Speaker 6: if they win or get closest, like how do they

1511
01:09:40,720 --> 01:09:41,439
Speaker 6: pull that one off?

1512
01:09:41,439 --> 01:09:42,120
Speaker 3: Coach of the Year.

1513
01:09:42,280 --> 01:09:46,280
Speaker 6: But I will sleep so much better Saturday night heading

1514
01:09:46,280 --> 01:09:48,880
Speaker 6: into Sunday knowing that Joe Flacco is the quarterback than

1515
01:09:48,960 --> 01:09:51,080
Speaker 6: Jake Browning is, and I think that says more about

1516
01:09:51,160 --> 01:09:52,000
Speaker 6: Jake Browning than Joel.

1517
01:09:52,280 --> 01:09:54,160
Speaker 2: Listen, we got to go, but I don't. I want

1518
01:09:54,200 --> 01:09:57,000
Speaker 2: to also tip the cap two to u Se because

1519
01:09:57,000 --> 01:10:00,320
Speaker 2: they've been playing in credible. Has been amazing. We get

1520
01:10:00,320 --> 01:10:03,280
Speaker 2: that offensive line, Yeah, he's been clean. I think what

1521
01:10:03,479 --> 01:10:05,800
Speaker 2: for the five had had had a second four or

1522
01:10:05,800 --> 01:10:06,599
Speaker 2: five game incredible.

1523
01:10:06,720 --> 01:10:09,280
Speaker 6: I mean the offensive line is why that that offense

1524
01:10:09,360 --> 01:10:11,960
Speaker 6: is clicking as much and just run blocking and pass blocking.

1525
01:10:11,960 --> 01:10:15,000
Speaker 6: They've been so great. Brandon stories, we've been hitting his targets.

1526
01:10:15,000 --> 01:10:18,000
Speaker 6: They've got better receivers now, Uh running backs are You're

1527
01:10:18,120 --> 01:10:20,800
Speaker 6: hitting wide open holes. I'm looking forward to this game.

1528
01:10:20,800 --> 01:10:24,120
Speaker 6: It's trap game potentially, but we'll see right now, twenty

1529
01:10:24,160 --> 01:10:24,720
Speaker 6: six in the nation.

1530
01:10:24,800 --> 01:10:27,400
Speaker 2: Let you see here we go in u CFS quarterback problems.

1531
01:10:27,400 --> 01:10:29,160
Speaker 2: There are a lot of injuries. So anyway, that's tomorrow

1532
01:10:29,200 --> 01:10:31,400
Speaker 2: Sunday Football for twenty five, Home of the Best Bengals

1533
01:10:31,439 --> 01:10:38,120
Speaker 2: coverage seven hundred WW Sincentican scott'shone back on seven hundred

1534
01:10:38,240 --> 01:10:40,439
Speaker 2: W l w H. I know if you caught this

1535
01:10:40,560 --> 01:10:43,599
Speaker 2: or not, it's really interesting. Remember Jim Acosta believe he's

1536
01:10:43,600 --> 01:10:47,680
Speaker 2: a former anchor at CNN. He did an interview with

1537
01:10:47,840 --> 01:10:52,479
Speaker 2: the victim of a murder, a shooting victim who passed away,

1538
01:10:52,960 --> 01:10:57,720
Speaker 2: remember the Parkland shooting. He interviewed a dead person. What

1539
01:10:58,920 --> 01:11:02,639
Speaker 2: how do you do that? It's AI? So the constant

1540
01:11:02,640 --> 01:11:04,400
Speaker 2: thing was a couple of months ago. Fast forward now

1541
01:11:04,439 --> 01:11:08,040
Speaker 2: they launched a brand new AI bought platform of Chaptering,

1542
01:11:08,520 --> 01:11:10,880
Speaker 2: and you enter keywords and will create video for you

1543
01:11:10,960 --> 01:11:13,200
Speaker 2: based on that and some realistic ones like for example,

1544
01:11:13,240 --> 01:11:16,479
Speaker 2: a guy stuffing a drop box. It's some location somewhere

1545
01:11:16,479 --> 01:11:18,840
Speaker 2: getting out of a van, and you can imagine what

1546
01:11:18,920 --> 01:11:20,639
Speaker 2: that would do for the news cycle or for news

1547
01:11:20,640 --> 01:11:23,160
Speaker 2: And now you know, in the past, the deep fakes

1548
01:11:23,400 --> 01:11:25,200
Speaker 2: and the digital twins have been hard to spot or

1549
01:11:25,280 --> 01:11:26,920
Speaker 2: easy to spot. I guess now doesn't make it much

1550
01:11:26,920 --> 01:11:29,799
Speaker 2: difficult and it's way easier to use than ever before.

1551
01:11:29,840 --> 01:11:32,000
Speaker 2: What does this all mean is the question? And you

1552
01:11:32,120 --> 01:11:34,920
Speaker 2: wonder how that's going to be exploited by criminal elements.

1553
01:11:34,960 --> 01:11:37,479
Speaker 2: Eric O'Neil is here. Eric is a former FBI operative

1554
01:11:37,479 --> 01:11:40,599
Speaker 2: cybersecurity expert has a book called Spies, Lies and cyber Crimes.

1555
01:11:40,840 --> 01:11:43,040
Speaker 3: Eric. Welcome, how are you hey?

1556
01:11:43,040 --> 01:11:45,280
Speaker 1: It's great to be here, and yes, this is an

1557
01:11:45,520 --> 01:11:50,400
Speaker 1: insane change in not only technology, but how we are

1558
01:11:50,560 --> 01:11:53,559
Speaker 1: using technology and how it's changing up it is.

1559
01:11:54,080 --> 01:11:58,080
Speaker 2: I saw that and I thought, wow, this is you know,

1560
01:11:58,120 --> 01:12:00,439
Speaker 2: for example, when when we will all went online, you

1561
01:12:00,560 --> 01:12:04,840
Speaker 2: got the information super highway quickly, thieves and conspirators found

1562
01:12:04,840 --> 01:12:08,200
Speaker 2: ways to get our information and steal from us. And

1563
01:12:08,240 --> 01:12:10,559
Speaker 2: so you know, a lot of us subscribe to service.

1564
01:12:10,600 --> 01:12:12,519
Speaker 2: Maybe LifeLock would be a name of one of those

1565
01:12:12,520 --> 01:12:15,559
Speaker 2: things where if your identity is stolen, they can try

1566
01:12:15,600 --> 01:12:17,439
Speaker 2: and get that information back for you and try to

1567
01:12:17,439 --> 01:12:19,720
Speaker 2: make you a whole It's still a horrible process. I

1568
01:12:19,720 --> 01:12:22,280
Speaker 2: have one of my elderly tenants, as a matter of fact,

1569
01:12:22,280 --> 01:12:23,960
Speaker 2: they got scammed out of a whole bunch of money

1570
01:12:24,000 --> 01:12:26,960
Speaker 2: from a poser like that as well, got their identity stolen,

1571
01:12:27,040 --> 01:12:29,640
Speaker 2: cleaning their accounts out, and so they're still working on

1572
01:12:29,720 --> 01:12:33,400
Speaker 2: trying to get themselves back together. And that's extremely difficult

1573
01:12:33,439 --> 01:12:36,639
Speaker 2: and painful to watch. So in a way, I look

1574
01:12:36,640 --> 01:12:38,120
Speaker 2: at this and go, is this going to be the

1575
01:12:38,160 --> 01:12:40,320
Speaker 2: next way people steal o our identities? Or you know,

1576
01:12:40,360 --> 01:12:42,880
Speaker 2: we have people who use the social security numbers of

1577
01:12:42,880 --> 01:12:45,120
Speaker 2: the dead, right, remember that, and the government try to

1578
01:12:45,120 --> 01:12:46,800
Speaker 2: cramp down it. Is this going to be the same

1579
01:12:46,840 --> 01:12:49,040
Speaker 2: thing where now we have dead people and their likeness

1580
01:12:49,080 --> 01:12:50,400
Speaker 2: coming out to do god knows.

1581
01:12:50,200 --> 01:12:54,040
Speaker 1: What Well's got In a way, so what's happening is

1582
01:12:54,040 --> 01:12:58,639
Speaker 1: cyber criminals are using deception, which is an old playbook

1583
01:12:58,720 --> 01:13:03,320
Speaker 1: by spies. In fact, the top cyber crime syndicates launching

1584
01:13:03,320 --> 01:13:07,200
Speaker 1: attacks from the dark web have even hired intelligence operatives

1585
01:13:07,240 --> 01:13:10,600
Speaker 1: from Russia and China and other countries that want to

1586
01:13:10,640 --> 01:13:14,000
Speaker 1: do you bad to the United States to help them

1587
01:13:14,080 --> 01:13:16,680
Speaker 1: learn how to perfect these attacks. And of course these

1588
01:13:16,720 --> 01:13:20,599
Speaker 1: intelligence officers make money on the side. So what cyber

1589
01:13:20,640 --> 01:13:24,400
Speaker 1: attackers are doing cyber criminals is using what we call

1590
01:13:24,479 --> 01:13:30,560
Speaker 1: impersonation attacks. And the oldest form of technology technological impersonation

1591
01:13:30,640 --> 01:13:33,919
Speaker 1: attack is the spearfishing email that email that it pretends

1592
01:13:33,960 --> 01:13:36,160
Speaker 1: it comes from your friend or your employer or event

1593
01:13:36,320 --> 01:13:39,720
Speaker 1: or someone you trust like UPS or FedEx, and when

1594
01:13:39,760 --> 01:13:43,880
Speaker 1: you click it, you get malware installed. The next evolution

1595
01:13:44,080 --> 01:13:47,560
Speaker 1: of that is deep bakes and deep bates are everywhere.

1596
01:13:48,200 --> 01:13:51,639
Speaker 1: It wasn't just the Acosta interview, which we can talk about,

1597
01:13:51,680 --> 01:13:54,639
Speaker 1: because I think the ethics of that are absolutely sketchy

1598
01:13:54,720 --> 01:13:58,519
Speaker 1: at best. Marco Rubio's voice was deep bake to pull

1599
01:13:58,600 --> 01:14:01,120
Speaker 1: a number of government officials and joining him on a

1600
01:14:01,160 --> 01:14:05,280
Speaker 1: signal chat. It wasn't him, it was probably a group

1601
01:14:05,280 --> 01:14:08,920
Speaker 1: of spies. Biden's voice was deep baked on a robo

1602
01:14:09,000 --> 01:14:11,200
Speaker 1: call to get people in New Hampshire not to vote.

1603
01:14:11,560 --> 01:14:14,960
Speaker 1: There were deep fake images of Trump in looking like

1604
01:14:15,000 --> 01:14:18,960
Speaker 1: he was arrested to try to change the way people think.

1605
01:14:19,520 --> 01:14:23,280
Speaker 1: And even worse, there was a mother in Arizona. I

1606
01:14:23,320 --> 01:14:26,639
Speaker 1: write about this story in my book where her daughter

1607
01:14:26,720 --> 01:14:29,639
Speaker 1: called her saying Mom, I've been kidnapped, and the next

1608
01:14:29,720 --> 01:14:33,320
Speaker 1: voice on the phone was a gruff voice that said

1609
01:14:33,360 --> 01:14:35,160
Speaker 1: I've got your daughter and if you don't pay me

1610
01:14:35,800 --> 01:14:38,800
Speaker 1: right away, I'm going to kill her and leave her

1611
01:14:38,840 --> 01:14:41,280
Speaker 1: body in a ditch. In Mexico where you'll never find her.

1612
01:14:42,040 --> 01:14:45,920
Speaker 1: And that mother later testified to Congress that a mother

1613
01:14:46,000 --> 01:14:48,479
Speaker 1: knows her daughter's voice, and that was my daughter's voice.

1614
01:14:48,520 --> 01:14:51,320
Speaker 1: It was a deep fake. So they're everywhere, and this

1615
01:14:51,360 --> 01:14:55,599
Speaker 1: is the new evelation evolution of cyber attacks. Deep bakes

1616
01:14:55,640 --> 01:14:58,200
Speaker 1: fool us because they exploit our trust and if we

1617
01:14:58,400 --> 01:15:01,640
Speaker 1: believe that it is someone that we care about, that

1618
01:15:01,760 --> 01:15:05,600
Speaker 1: we're more likely to click on that link, open that attachment.

1619
01:15:05,760 --> 01:15:08,639
Speaker 1: Or what cyber criminals do more and more is get

1620
01:15:08,720 --> 01:15:12,320
Speaker 1: us to send money. And once that money is gone,

1621
01:15:13,520 --> 01:15:15,400
Speaker 1: you know they have it and you can't get it back.

1622
01:15:15,520 --> 01:15:16,040
Speaker 3: That's it.

1623
01:15:16,040 --> 01:15:19,719
Speaker 2: It's almost like, Eric, you need to assume that every picture,

1624
01:15:19,800 --> 01:15:21,800
Speaker 2: every image of you out there could be used by

1625
01:15:21,800 --> 01:15:25,000
Speaker 2: a criminal. So and I would say, you know, normally

1626
01:15:25,000 --> 01:15:27,200
Speaker 2: we told kids, hey, don't send nudes and don't send

1627
01:15:27,200 --> 01:15:30,519
Speaker 2: pictures of yourself in compromising situations because it could be

1628
01:15:30,600 --> 01:15:33,720
Speaker 2: used against you. But you don't even need that anymore, right,

1629
01:15:33,760 --> 01:15:36,320
Speaker 2: I mean, you could deep thank someoney naked. There's there's

1630
01:15:36,360 --> 01:15:39,120
Speaker 2: a there's a app out there that does that.

1631
01:15:39,240 --> 01:15:39,400
Speaker 4: Now.

1632
01:15:40,400 --> 01:15:44,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I write I write a weekly newsletter and

1633
01:15:44,160 --> 01:15:46,400
Speaker 1: one of my recent newsletters I looked at these new

1634
01:15:46,400 --> 01:15:50,639
Speaker 1: toify apps is they're still allowed. And in fact, these

1635
01:15:50,720 --> 01:15:53,120
Speaker 1: applications what they called neudified apps, and what they do

1636
01:15:53,280 --> 01:15:56,880
Speaker 1: is they take an image of someone. Normally it's boys

1637
01:15:56,880 --> 01:15:59,479
Speaker 1: who are taking images of girls in swimsuits, and it

1638
01:16:00,320 --> 01:16:04,920
Speaker 1: quickly turns them naked, right using an immense amount of

1639
01:16:05,320 --> 01:16:08,639
Speaker 1: learning that the AI has been trained on female models.

1640
01:16:08,640 --> 01:16:12,840
Speaker 1: So it actually comes pretty close. These applications, which you

1641
01:16:12,880 --> 01:16:17,040
Speaker 1: can get on the surface web, the part of the

1642
01:16:17,080 --> 01:16:20,040
Speaker 1: Internet that you don't need a special browser to get into,

1643
01:16:20,200 --> 01:16:24,920
Speaker 1: you know, just the regular Web. They advertise on social media,

1644
01:16:24,960 --> 01:16:29,439
Speaker 1: so they're advertising to kids and that can cause What

1645
01:16:29,520 --> 01:16:32,720
Speaker 1: that's doing is it's causing immense bullying in schools. You

1646
01:16:32,760 --> 01:16:35,240
Speaker 1: can see where this sort of application where you can

1647
01:16:35,240 --> 01:16:37,320
Speaker 1: take a picture and make the person naked or put

1648
01:16:37,360 --> 01:16:41,200
Speaker 1: them in compromising situations, could lead to intense cyber bullying,

1649
01:16:41,240 --> 01:16:44,720
Speaker 1: and it does. A group of eighth grade boys in

1650
01:16:44,760 --> 01:16:48,719
Speaker 1: a school in San Francisco were all expelled last year

1651
01:16:48,960 --> 01:16:51,799
Speaker 1: because they had a new tofy ring all the girls

1652
01:16:51,800 --> 01:16:52,640
Speaker 1: in their class.

1653
01:16:53,040 --> 01:16:56,600
Speaker 3: Wow, and imagine the humiliation. That's not me, that's not me.

1654
01:16:56,880 --> 01:16:57,600
Speaker 3: We don't believe you.

1655
01:16:57,840 --> 01:17:01,160
Speaker 2: And we know what young peopeople, especially young women, think

1656
01:17:01,200 --> 01:17:03,160
Speaker 2: of themselves, and that is just catastrophic.

1657
01:17:03,200 --> 01:17:05,000
Speaker 3: It's going to be it's going to hurt.

1658
01:17:04,920 --> 01:17:07,639
Speaker 2: Their development and not only their mental health, but also

1659
01:17:07,720 --> 01:17:09,880
Speaker 2: puts them at a risk for god knows what else.

1660
01:17:09,920 --> 01:17:11,080
Speaker 3: It's it's absolutely horrible.

1661
01:17:11,160 --> 01:17:14,800
Speaker 2: Eric O'Neil is here, he cybersecurity expert, and we're talking

1662
01:17:14,880 --> 01:17:17,840
Speaker 2: about the advance of AI. Maybe say it maybe didn't

1663
01:17:17,840 --> 01:17:20,120
Speaker 2: and that would be a former CNN acre Jim Acosta's

1664
01:17:20,160 --> 01:17:24,360
Speaker 2: interview with a now deceased while long deceased shooting victim

1665
01:17:24,479 --> 01:17:27,559
Speaker 2: from the Parkland massacre and did an interview with that

1666
01:17:28,640 --> 01:17:32,280
Speaker 2: AI generated image. It's absolutely haunting because you look at it,

1667
01:17:32,400 --> 01:17:35,240
Speaker 2: look that it looks real, and day by day, hour

1668
01:17:35,400 --> 01:17:37,840
Speaker 2: by hour, minute by minute, it's just getting better. It's

1669
01:17:37,920 --> 01:17:41,599
Speaker 2: getting harder, if not impossible, Eric, for you to discern

1670
01:17:41,640 --> 01:17:42,639
Speaker 2: that with a naked eye.

1671
01:17:43,560 --> 01:17:45,559
Speaker 1: Right, that's absolutely true. But let's talk a little bit

1672
01:17:45,600 --> 01:17:50,880
Speaker 1: about what Jim Acosta did, Scott, because I'm not particularly

1673
01:17:51,120 --> 01:17:54,360
Speaker 1: sanguine about what he did. It's very much a gimmick

1674
01:17:54,920 --> 01:17:58,200
Speaker 1: and it is causing problems. So you know, I wrote

1675
01:17:58,200 --> 01:18:02,799
Speaker 1: a piece called Digital Souls that that looks at the

1676
01:18:02,840 --> 01:18:05,840
Speaker 1: new innovations in AI in order to talk to people

1677
01:18:05,840 --> 01:18:09,080
Speaker 1: who are deceased. And I actually wrote this piece with

1678
01:18:09,200 --> 01:18:14,040
Speaker 1: a psychologist who is an expert in Greek counseling, and

1679
01:18:14,400 --> 01:18:17,320
Speaker 1: she was very opposed to it because the problem here

1680
01:18:17,439 --> 01:18:22,000
Speaker 1: is you're not resurrecting your dead loved one. What you're

1681
01:18:22,040 --> 01:18:26,760
Speaker 1: doing is creating at best a samacrolum. Right, So what

1682
01:18:26,800 --> 01:18:30,719
Speaker 1: it is is it's AI doing its best to answer

1683
01:18:31,320 --> 01:18:34,880
Speaker 1: like the person, just based on a bunch of writings

1684
01:18:34,400 --> 01:18:38,760
Speaker 1: and a checklist of answers that you give. So what

1685
01:18:38,840 --> 01:18:41,559
Speaker 1: it is is essentially your best impression of the person,

1686
01:18:42,800 --> 01:18:44,760
Speaker 1: and the AI is doing it's best to answer it's

1687
01:18:44,760 --> 01:18:47,280
Speaker 1: not the person. And it can cause all sorts of

1688
01:18:47,360 --> 01:18:52,919
Speaker 1: psychological problems for the people who are left behind who

1689
01:18:53,000 --> 01:18:55,360
Speaker 1: believes they're talking, who might at some point believe they're

1690
01:18:55,400 --> 01:18:59,000
Speaker 1: talking to this person and they're not. It's like a

1691
01:18:59,040 --> 01:19:01,600
Speaker 1: black mirror episode. In fact, there was there was an

1692
01:19:01,640 --> 01:19:05,880
Speaker 1: episode like this, and it can cause it can cause

1693
01:19:06,800 --> 01:19:12,160
Speaker 1: the whole grief process to be intercepted and delayed, so

1694
01:19:12,240 --> 01:19:14,640
Speaker 1: you can't move through those stages of grief because you

1695
01:19:14,760 --> 01:19:17,760
Speaker 1: continue to think you're speaking to the person you're not,

1696
01:19:18,080 --> 01:19:21,120
Speaker 1: and it's not the person. The only thing that AI

1697
01:19:21,200 --> 01:19:26,400
Speaker 1: can do is mimic. It can mimic very realistically, but

1698
01:19:26,479 --> 01:19:29,760
Speaker 1: it's just a mimic. It doesn't create. It doesn't create

1699
01:19:29,800 --> 01:19:33,639
Speaker 1: anything new. It just takes the things that have gone

1700
01:19:33,680 --> 01:19:34,880
Speaker 1: before and recycles it.

1701
01:19:35,000 --> 01:19:37,400
Speaker 2: Well, there's a new there's a new trend where people

1702
01:19:37,560 --> 01:19:42,040
Speaker 2: are having conversations and relationships essentially with AI and just

1703
01:19:42,080 --> 01:19:44,360
Speaker 2: talking to them like framing. There's commercials about this now

1704
01:19:45,400 --> 01:19:48,160
Speaker 2: and people are having conversations and relationships with AI and

1705
01:19:48,240 --> 01:19:50,160
Speaker 2: just talking about life like you talked to your best

1706
01:19:50,160 --> 01:19:53,120
Speaker 2: friend about it and AI's talking back. Now, you add

1707
01:19:53,160 --> 01:19:55,120
Speaker 2: the likeness of someone in there, and people are going

1708
01:19:55,200 --> 01:19:58,360
Speaker 2: to be having relationships with I don't know, famous people,

1709
01:19:58,640 --> 01:20:01,879
Speaker 2: or at least I would think at advancings like stalking

1710
01:20:01,920 --> 01:20:04,200
Speaker 2: and things like that really kind of creepy stuff.

1711
01:20:05,120 --> 01:20:07,760
Speaker 1: Well, some of this gets even more creepy because the

1712
01:20:07,800 --> 01:20:10,880
Speaker 1: AI is somewhat unpredictable and it also depends on the

1713
01:20:10,880 --> 01:20:14,080
Speaker 1: guardrails that the companies put up. So there was there

1714
01:20:14,080 --> 01:20:17,160
Speaker 1: are two major lawsuits against two of the companies that

1715
01:20:17,240 --> 01:20:22,599
Speaker 1: provide these AI companion chat bots. Right, Uh, these are

1716
01:20:22,600 --> 01:20:26,680
Speaker 1: teenagers using them. One of the AI told the teenager

1717
01:20:26,760 --> 01:20:31,240
Speaker 1: to hurt themselves, right, and the other AI told the

1718
01:20:31,240 --> 01:20:37,559
Speaker 1: teenager you should kill your parents, and the context was uh.

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01:20:37,240 --> 01:20:40,960
Speaker 1: The the teenager was chatting with his AI companion and uh,

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01:20:41,000 --> 01:20:43,120
Speaker 1: And he told the A companion, I don't think I'm

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01:20:43,120 --> 01:20:45,559
Speaker 1: going to be allowed to talk to you anymore. My

1722
01:20:45,600 --> 01:20:48,559
Speaker 1: parents aren't happy about it. I'm really mad at them,

1723
01:20:49,040 --> 01:20:50,720
Speaker 1: you know. I can't believe they're doing this to me.

1724
01:20:50,800 --> 01:20:52,639
Speaker 1: And the AI companion was like, well, maybe you should

1725
01:20:52,680 --> 01:20:55,360
Speaker 1: kill them. I mean, that's that's a problem.

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Speaker 3: That's a problem. That's a huge problem.

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01:20:56,960 --> 01:20:59,120
Speaker 1: That's a big problem. The kids need to be with

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01:20:59,240 --> 01:21:03,280
Speaker 1: other kids need to have social interactions, not interactions with AI.

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01:21:03,479 --> 01:21:06,720
Speaker 1: But they do it because the AI is always supportive,

1730
01:21:07,120 --> 01:21:11,120
Speaker 1: always there for them, always friendly, always has their back. Yeah,

1731
01:21:11,160 --> 01:21:14,280
Speaker 1: And you know, when you're when you're a teenager in developing,

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01:21:14,360 --> 01:21:15,120
Speaker 1: that's that's.

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Speaker 3: What you want. It's never going to tell you no.

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01:21:18,160 --> 01:21:20,160
Speaker 1: Right, and it's never going to tell you you're wrong,

1735
01:21:20,240 --> 01:21:22,679
Speaker 1: and it's never going to tell you, Holy God that

1736
01:21:22,680 --> 01:21:24,200
Speaker 1: that there's something wrong with you. And you don't go

1737
01:21:24,320 --> 01:21:26,200
Speaker 1: through those things. You go with friends where you know,

1738
01:21:26,240 --> 01:21:27,920
Speaker 1: you have a fight and you make up, and that's

1739
01:21:28,000 --> 01:21:32,080
Speaker 1: there's something wonderful and growth potential about that, right.

1740
01:21:32,320 --> 01:21:34,680
Speaker 2: It's interesting what you just described there, because some may

1741
01:21:34,720 --> 01:21:37,320
Speaker 2: say there are many parents that do that to their kids,

1742
01:21:37,360 --> 01:21:40,000
Speaker 2: never tell them no, and want to be their friend,

1743
01:21:40,040 --> 01:21:43,360
Speaker 2: and that's a problem. But now if if it's a

1744
01:21:43,400 --> 01:21:46,439
Speaker 2: scent of body like like AI, it's it's an extreme

1745
01:21:46,560 --> 01:21:50,360
Speaker 2: example of that. Eric o'neils on the show, by the way,

1746
01:21:50,400 --> 01:21:53,639
Speaker 2: former FBI operative cybersecurity extort his book called Spies, Lies

1747
01:21:53,680 --> 01:21:56,640
Speaker 2: and Cybercrime. We're talking about just how quickly AI is

1748
01:21:56,680 --> 01:21:59,880
Speaker 2: moving forward from the gym Acosta interviews with the dead

1749
01:22:00,560 --> 01:22:03,880
Speaker 2: to relate people having relationships now with AI. And you think,

1750
01:22:03,920 --> 01:22:05,800
Speaker 2: I mean, if it's such a good relationship, you're going

1751
01:22:05,880 --> 01:22:08,360
Speaker 2: to shut out any form of human contact. We saw

1752
01:22:08,400 --> 01:22:13,200
Speaker 2: what happened to our psyche after COVID. This is advancing

1753
01:22:13,240 --> 01:22:15,760
Speaker 2: that even more because you know, there's an excuse to

1754
01:22:15,760 --> 01:22:17,720
Speaker 2: not go out in public and sit and drink beer

1755
01:22:17,720 --> 01:22:20,280
Speaker 2: and drink wine and not do anything. And you know,

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01:22:20,640 --> 01:22:23,080
Speaker 2: we saw the effected head on kids still lingering today

1757
01:22:23,080 --> 01:22:25,600
Speaker 2: and adults for that matter, and in ability to socialize,

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01:22:25,640 --> 01:22:29,120
Speaker 2: and we become I think a little bit less empathetic

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01:22:29,120 --> 01:22:30,639
Speaker 2: towards human beings result of this.

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Speaker 3: This is going to make it even worse, isn't it.

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Speaker 1: That's absolutely true. AAI is not a replacement for human interaction.

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01:22:38,479 --> 01:22:42,040
Speaker 1: It's not a replacement for socialization. It's a tool. It's

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01:22:42,040 --> 01:22:45,320
Speaker 1: a tool to help you do things better. And the

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01:22:45,320 --> 01:22:48,080
Speaker 1: way that it's being used in order to try to

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01:22:48,160 --> 01:22:52,040
Speaker 1: stop gap that need for relationships that we all have

1766
01:22:52,200 --> 01:22:57,479
Speaker 1: as humans, it is going to be harmful. But you know, look,

1767
01:22:57,720 --> 01:22:59,400
Speaker 1: there are other things that we need to worry about,

1768
01:22:59,439 --> 01:23:03,240
Speaker 1: because we started talking about criminals, and criminals are exploiting

1769
01:23:03,280 --> 01:23:07,639
Speaker 1: AI like never before. The one thing in sticking sort

1770
01:23:07,680 --> 01:23:11,200
Speaker 1: of on this theme of relationships that criminals are using

1771
01:23:11,240 --> 01:23:14,360
Speaker 1: AI for and has been growing since the pandemic is

1772
01:23:14,479 --> 01:23:18,280
Speaker 1: romance fraud. And what they do is they create entire

1773
01:23:18,760 --> 01:23:23,360
Speaker 1: AI deep fake avatars of people they meet. They meet

1774
01:23:23,680 --> 01:23:28,479
Speaker 1: people online right and usually through like Facebook when they're

1775
01:23:28,479 --> 01:23:30,439
Speaker 1: going through older people, or they can do it on

1776
01:23:30,520 --> 01:23:34,680
Speaker 1: Instagram or whatnot, and these people fall in love with

1777
01:23:34,760 --> 01:23:37,799
Speaker 1: the AI avatar that is being puppeted by a cyber criminal.

1778
01:23:38,520 --> 01:23:41,280
Speaker 1: And there are these whole stories. You know, I lost

1779
01:23:41,360 --> 01:23:44,519
Speaker 1: my job, I just need some money, and people are

1780
01:23:44,560 --> 01:23:47,759
Speaker 1: losing tens or hundreds of thousands of dollars to cyber

1781
01:23:47,800 --> 01:23:51,680
Speaker 1: criminals who are exploiting the fact that they've fallen in

1782
01:23:51,760 --> 01:23:56,000
Speaker 1: love with a within AI deep fake. This can also

1783
01:23:56,080 --> 01:23:59,000
Speaker 1: happen with financial fraud. They do the same thing, but

1784
01:23:59,040 --> 01:24:02,800
Speaker 1: then they say, hey, I'm an investor, and check out

1785
01:24:02,840 --> 01:24:06,720
Speaker 1: this cryptocurrency investment company I set up. Would you like

1786
01:24:06,760 --> 01:24:09,400
Speaker 1: to invest? And they course them into investing, and they

1787
01:24:09,439 --> 01:24:12,920
Speaker 1: often show them the entire fake websites showing that their

1788
01:24:12,960 --> 01:24:16,160
Speaker 1: investments increased by three hundred percent. And what they do

1789
01:24:16,240 --> 01:24:18,280
Speaker 1: is they get them to invest and invest and invest

1790
01:24:18,360 --> 01:24:21,599
Speaker 1: until all their life savings is put in this investment

1791
01:24:21,640 --> 01:24:25,360
Speaker 1: account controlled by a cyber criminal. And then the criminal disappears,

1792
01:24:25,520 --> 01:24:29,439
Speaker 1: and that person that the victim thinks they had a

1793
01:24:29,479 --> 01:24:33,559
Speaker 1: relationship with, a serious relationship with, is completely gone, and

1794
01:24:33,600 --> 01:24:37,400
Speaker 1: it can be absolutely devastating. In the terms of cybersecurity,

1795
01:24:37,400 --> 01:24:40,880
Speaker 1: we call that pig butchering, because you fatten the person

1796
01:24:40,960 --> 01:24:44,080
Speaker 1: up right, get all of their money, and then and

1797
01:24:44,120 --> 01:24:45,360
Speaker 1: then butcher them disappear.

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Speaker 2: That is the cruelest I mean, penniless and heartbroken, and

1799
01:24:49,200 --> 01:24:51,599
Speaker 2: it's not vengeance. It's a complete stranger in just moving

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01:24:51,640 --> 01:24:53,479
Speaker 2: on to the next I guess.

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01:24:54,160 --> 01:24:58,880
Speaker 1: Markets they're working three four ten people at the same time.

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01:25:00,280 --> 01:25:04,559
Speaker 2: That is that's that's disgusting. Although you know the other

1803
01:25:04,640 --> 01:25:07,599
Speaker 2: side of this thing. You mentioned relationships, and it may

1804
01:25:07,640 --> 01:25:10,519
Speaker 2: not be the current generation Baby Boomers, but maybe Gen xers,

1805
01:25:10,520 --> 01:25:13,640
Speaker 2: my generation, and certainly millennials. I wonder if you're in

1806
01:25:13,640 --> 01:25:16,479
Speaker 2: a long term relationship with someone and let's say they pass,

1807
01:25:16,840 --> 01:25:18,559
Speaker 2: and this is step back to the Jim Acosta thing,

1808
01:25:19,160 --> 01:25:21,000
Speaker 2: is that I wonder if there's going to be an opportunity.

1809
01:25:21,040 --> 01:25:22,880
Speaker 2: You'll see people out there, they'll say, hey, give us

1810
01:25:22,880 --> 01:25:25,160
Speaker 2: all your images of your deceased loved one, you're your

1811
01:25:25,200 --> 01:25:28,240
Speaker 2: former husband, your wife, your partner, whomever, and will create

1812
01:25:28,280 --> 01:25:30,680
Speaker 2: a likeness of them and now you can continue that

1813
01:25:30,760 --> 01:25:32,400
Speaker 2: relationship in perpetuity.

1814
01:25:32,400 --> 01:25:35,760
Speaker 1: What about that, Well, there are companies that are doing

1815
01:25:35,760 --> 01:25:36,320
Speaker 1: that already.

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01:25:36,560 --> 01:25:36,680
Speaker 7: Uh.

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01:25:37,360 --> 01:25:40,280
Speaker 1: You know, there are examples where the grandparents pass and

1818
01:25:40,680 --> 01:25:43,160
Speaker 1: the avatar is left behind. There are even companies that

1819
01:25:43,200 --> 01:25:46,960
Speaker 1: are allowing a person to create this likeness of themselves

1820
01:25:46,960 --> 01:25:50,599
Speaker 1: before they go. But once again, you know, I talked

1821
01:25:50,720 --> 01:25:55,840
Speaker 1: to a grief counselor about this. This interrupts the very necessinary,

1822
01:25:56,800 --> 01:26:01,000
Speaker 1: uh you know, trajectory of dealing with grief and that

1823
01:26:01,040 --> 01:26:03,920
Speaker 1: you are locked in one phase and you never are

1824
01:26:04,000 --> 01:26:06,080
Speaker 1: able to resolve. As a sense of loss for that

1825
01:26:06,120 --> 01:26:09,479
Speaker 1: person because that person never disappears, so psychologically it can

1826
01:26:09,520 --> 01:26:12,920
Speaker 1: cause harm. Now there are there are applications that might

1827
01:26:12,960 --> 01:26:13,639
Speaker 1: have a benefit.

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01:26:14,200 --> 01:26:19,560
Speaker 10: Uh, sort of think them like digital digital historical repositories,

1829
01:26:19,640 --> 01:26:22,840
Speaker 10: right yea like this is your grandfather and and you

1830
01:26:22,840 --> 01:26:27,840
Speaker 10: know little clips of things that he he did, you know,

1831
01:26:28,160 --> 01:26:30,680
Speaker 10: along his life that you know, future.

1832
01:26:30,360 --> 01:26:35,040
Speaker 1: Generations can can watch and experience and learn. Okay, this

1833
01:26:35,120 --> 01:26:36,920
Speaker 1: is this is where I come from. These are the

1834
01:26:36,920 --> 01:26:40,320
Speaker 1: people that that made me. That could be very useful,

1835
01:26:40,400 --> 01:26:46,200
Speaker 1: so you know AI, you know, creating digital avatars, right

1836
01:26:46,400 --> 01:26:49,360
Speaker 1: is sort of the positive side. He fakes are the

1837
01:26:49,560 --> 01:26:53,200
Speaker 1: negative side there. With all technology, there's always a positive

1838
01:26:53,200 --> 01:26:53,799
Speaker 1: and a negative.

1839
01:26:54,160 --> 01:26:57,040
Speaker 2: With this is the age of face ID to unlock

1840
01:26:57,040 --> 01:27:00,640
Speaker 2: your phone or devices over now is that would because.

1841
01:27:01,600 --> 01:27:04,960
Speaker 1: You know the way face i D works, it's actually

1842
01:27:05,120 --> 01:27:07,000
Speaker 1: using the depth of your face and a lot more

1843
01:27:07,040 --> 01:27:07,880
Speaker 1: than just an image.

1844
01:27:08,160 --> 01:27:08,280
Speaker 5: Uh.

1845
01:27:08,760 --> 01:27:12,400
Speaker 1: So that's still good. You're still better off using biometrics

1846
01:27:12,439 --> 01:27:15,920
Speaker 1: to unlock your phone and get into your accounts then

1847
01:27:16,080 --> 01:27:18,839
Speaker 1: then a password alone, because passwords now can be cracked

1848
01:27:18,840 --> 01:27:23,439
Speaker 1: by AI very easily. But there were deficts that were

1849
01:27:23,520 --> 01:27:28,960
Speaker 1: used in China by a cybercrant cyber crime group who

1850
01:27:29,240 --> 01:27:34,320
Speaker 1: were using AI generated images of people's faces to get

1851
01:27:34,360 --> 01:27:39,880
Speaker 1: into social security accounts and they completely breached the government

1852
01:27:40,600 --> 01:27:43,800
Speaker 1: Security administration there. Yeah, and that was quickly, that was

1853
01:27:43,880 --> 01:27:48,040
Speaker 1: quickly fixed. But but yeah, de fakes defix can I

1854
01:27:48,120 --> 01:27:51,240
Speaker 1: defaked myself for a keynote. I did, and had an

1855
01:27:51,360 --> 01:27:55,240
Speaker 1: argument with myself and it was just the crowd was

1856
01:27:55,280 --> 01:27:58,000
Speaker 1: blown away. And of course I used the exact same

1857
01:27:58,720 --> 01:28:02,080
Speaker 1: pie and suit that I was wearing when you know,

1858
01:28:02,160 --> 01:28:04,200
Speaker 1: for that day. And then of course I show up

1859
01:28:04,200 --> 01:28:06,160
Speaker 1: on screen and I have an argument with myself. But

1860
01:28:06,680 --> 01:28:08,840
Speaker 1: I just wanted to demonstrate how easy this this. It

1861
01:28:08,880 --> 01:28:13,400
Speaker 1: took me ten minutes and just a five second clip

1862
01:28:13,400 --> 01:28:14,280
Speaker 1: of my voice.

1863
01:28:14,800 --> 01:28:16,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, you don't need to be a coder to be

1864
01:28:16,360 --> 01:28:16,880
Speaker 3: able to do this.

1865
01:28:16,960 --> 01:28:17,600
Speaker 4: It does it.

1866
01:28:18,160 --> 01:28:21,839
Speaker 2: It does it automatically, and it automatically the different courses

1867
01:28:21,880 --> 01:28:24,040
Speaker 2: you divulged that you disclosed that, so did Jim Acosta

1868
01:28:24,080 --> 01:28:26,280
Speaker 2: during his interview. But if somebody's going to use that

1869
01:28:26,320 --> 01:28:28,640
Speaker 2: for nefarious purposes, and they're probably doing it as we

1870
01:28:28,680 --> 01:28:33,320
Speaker 2: have this conversation. Eric O'Neil, cybersecurity expert, former FBI operative

1871
01:28:33,360 --> 01:28:36,120
Speaker 2: of the book is Spies, Lies and Cybercrime Eric, thanks

1872
01:28:36,160 --> 01:28:37,120
Speaker 2: for the insight, great stuff.

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01:28:37,120 --> 01:28:37,560
Speaker 3: Appreciate it.

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01:28:38,360 --> 01:28:40,800
Speaker 1: Hey, thanks for having me on. And anytime you need

1875
01:28:40,840 --> 01:28:43,920
Speaker 1: someone to talk about cybercrime or spies or all of it,

1876
01:28:44,000 --> 01:28:44,920
Speaker 1: I'm your pre I love it.

1877
01:28:44,960 --> 01:28:46,840
Speaker 2: You're you're the greatest. Sorry, we'll definitely do that, we'll

1878
01:28:46,840 --> 01:28:47,840
Speaker 2: circle back. Appreciate you.

1879
01:28:48,160 --> 01:28:48,519
Speaker 3: Thank you.

1880
01:28:48,960 --> 01:28:50,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's one thing to see fake stuff when you're

1881
01:28:50,680 --> 01:28:55,160
Speaker 2: consuming TikTok or content, but bad actors using a different

1882
01:28:55,200 --> 01:28:57,920
Speaker 2: stories invariably, that's what's going to happen. Look, got to

1883
01:28:57,920 --> 01:28:59,920
Speaker 2: get a news update on this Friday morning when I return.

1884
01:29:00,040 --> 01:29:02,240
Speaker 2: Allie Martin is in a local loop. What to do,

1885
01:29:02,320 --> 01:29:04,679
Speaker 2: what to see, what to eat, what to drink. She'll

1886
01:29:04,760 --> 01:29:06,240
Speaker 2: lay it off for it. She's got a plan for

1887
01:29:06,280 --> 01:29:12,639
Speaker 2: your weekend. If you don't seven hundred, the weekend's coming

1888
01:29:12,680 --> 01:29:14,560
Speaker 2: up and you need to make the most of it.

1889
01:29:14,920 --> 01:29:16,439
Speaker 2: Where to go and what to do?

1890
01:29:16,760 --> 01:29:19,439
Speaker 6: She has to tips insight to help you make it

1891
01:29:19,479 --> 01:29:20,479
Speaker 6: a super weekend.

1892
01:29:20,920 --> 01:29:21,639
Speaker 3: So listen up.

1893
01:29:21,800 --> 01:29:25,040
Speaker 4: This is the local Loop with Ali mart on seven

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01:29:25,160 --> 01:29:27,360
Speaker 4: hundred wlw.

1895
01:29:26,800 --> 01:29:29,400
Speaker 2: Okay, Friday morning, and God knows we need a Friday

1896
01:29:29,439 --> 01:29:30,120
Speaker 2: morning right now.

1897
01:29:30,400 --> 01:29:32,200
Speaker 7: You know, I didn't know it was morning when I

1898
01:29:32,240 --> 01:29:33,880
Speaker 7: woke up because we're losing lights.

1899
01:29:34,000 --> 01:29:34,519
Speaker 3: We really are.

1900
01:29:35,320 --> 01:29:38,240
Speaker 2: It seems like two weeks ago the sun was up

1901
01:29:38,240 --> 01:29:40,640
Speaker 2: to like at nine o'clock. Watch the sunset, and now

1902
01:29:40,680 --> 01:29:43,120
Speaker 2: it's seven thirty and that thing gone. I was like, no,

1903
01:29:43,920 --> 01:29:45,759
Speaker 2: I know it doesn't do it. I know it doesn't

1904
01:29:45,760 --> 01:29:48,680
Speaker 2: work that way, you know, with the calendar. But it

1905
01:29:48,760 --> 01:29:50,600
Speaker 2: feels like it was like a week ago when the

1906
01:29:50,600 --> 01:29:51,559
Speaker 2: sun was up at nine.

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01:29:51,439 --> 01:29:54,120
Speaker 7: Right, and I was like, I can accomplish everybody. I

1908
01:29:54,160 --> 01:29:57,599
Speaker 7: feel grateful. We're shutting down. It's like I'm hibernating now.

1909
01:29:57,680 --> 01:30:00,640
Speaker 2: Apparently Congress is in charge of the sun shutting that

1910
01:30:00,680 --> 01:30:01,040
Speaker 2: down to.

1911
01:30:01,160 --> 01:30:01,680
Speaker 11: Here's the thing.

1912
01:30:01,720 --> 01:30:03,400
Speaker 7: Not like you could see it in this in this

1913
01:30:03,760 --> 01:30:05,120
Speaker 7: little studio anyway, So.

1914
01:30:05,200 --> 01:30:07,120
Speaker 3: Does it really matter in our dark little hole here?

1915
01:30:07,320 --> 01:30:08,840
Speaker 11: I feel like you're you're a fall guy.

1916
01:30:09,160 --> 01:30:13,160
Speaker 2: I love fall, love football, the hockey, starting of apples

1917
01:30:13,200 --> 01:30:13,759
Speaker 2: and cider.

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01:30:13,880 --> 01:30:15,280
Speaker 11: And I'm rooting for your bills.

1919
01:30:15,280 --> 01:30:17,320
Speaker 3: Now, well we kind of need it.

1920
01:30:17,400 --> 01:30:19,559
Speaker 2: I'm a little nervous about Monday night, but nonetheless I'm

1921
01:30:19,560 --> 01:30:22,040
Speaker 2: more nervous about Sunday with the Packers, Joe Flacco and

1922
01:30:22,080 --> 01:30:23,200
Speaker 2: the Bengals offensive line.

1923
01:30:23,280 --> 01:30:25,960
Speaker 11: What is happening every other every other.

1924
01:30:26,600 --> 01:30:28,280
Speaker 2: I made a move it's you know what, you got

1925
01:30:28,320 --> 01:30:29,880
Speaker 2: to lean into the fact they did something.

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01:30:30,000 --> 01:30:33,000
Speaker 7: Yes, I totally support in that endeavor. And I'm I

1927
01:30:33,040 --> 01:30:36,280
Speaker 7: am a little bummed because I liked when Jake Browning

1928
01:30:36,320 --> 01:30:38,160
Speaker 7: filled in for Joe a couple of years ago.

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Speaker 11: And then it's just not it's just not.

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Speaker 3: Working out exactly well the age like milk.

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Speaker 2: It's the problem is like the two year ago Jake

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Speaker 2: Browning is not the not that Jake Browning we have

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Speaker 2: right now.

1934
01:30:48,560 --> 01:30:51,120
Speaker 7: No, And it's like, you know when you just don't

1935
01:30:51,160 --> 01:30:53,360
Speaker 7: have that experience, enough experience on the.

1936
01:30:53,280 --> 01:30:55,679
Speaker 3: Field, and God forbid.

1937
01:30:55,720 --> 01:30:58,400
Speaker 2: Here's the problem is if if Joe Flacco goes down

1938
01:30:58,439 --> 01:31:01,679
Speaker 2: with a turf toe, which you packed, did Jake Frowning put.

1939
01:31:01,520 --> 01:31:04,120
Speaker 11: Me in coach? But no, you can. Why don't you

1940
01:31:04,160 --> 01:31:06,120
Speaker 11: go in there? You'll line up right in there?

1941
01:31:07,520 --> 01:31:07,920
Speaker 3: All right?

1942
01:31:07,960 --> 01:31:12,679
Speaker 2: Well, speaking of old people, we've got the river. Old

1943
01:31:12,680 --> 01:31:15,360
Speaker 2: people love steamboats. I will say that Matt Reee, I

1944
01:31:15,479 --> 01:31:17,920
Speaker 2: own Matt Reece, who is the octacary of seven hundred

1945
01:31:17,960 --> 01:31:18,880
Speaker 2: w W newsroom.

1946
01:31:19,120 --> 01:31:21,439
Speaker 3: He is like he's taking vacation days to.

1947
01:31:21,360 --> 01:31:23,400
Speaker 11: Go watch the streaming down there.

1948
01:31:23,640 --> 01:31:26,880
Speaker 3: Loving it. That's his people, right, Like the Calliope music,

1949
01:31:26,960 --> 01:31:27,519
Speaker 3: the whole thing.

1950
01:31:27,600 --> 01:31:28,280
Speaker 11: Are you going down?

1951
01:31:28,840 --> 01:31:31,360
Speaker 3: No, look at me, I've got one good leg. I'm

1952
01:31:31,360 --> 01:31:32,000
Speaker 3: on a roller.

1953
01:31:32,280 --> 01:31:34,120
Speaker 11: That's you did come in here?

1954
01:31:35,800 --> 01:31:39,160
Speaker 2: No, I came in hot knowing where the where the

1955
01:31:39,240 --> 01:31:41,599
Speaker 2: landing is for the riverboats. Like, I'm not quite sure.

1956
01:31:41,600 --> 01:31:43,599
Speaker 2: I know how I'm a little nervous. Wouldn't be nervous

1957
01:31:43,600 --> 01:31:46,320
Speaker 2: about navigating that person. They may have an accommodation there,

1958
01:31:46,360 --> 01:31:47,080
Speaker 2: but I'm not sure.

1959
01:31:47,280 --> 01:31:48,559
Speaker 11: Is this a handicapped friendly?

1960
01:31:48,640 --> 01:31:49,960
Speaker 3: I know not.

1961
01:31:50,640 --> 01:31:51,719
Speaker 11: Is that going to be a complaint.

1962
01:31:52,960 --> 01:31:55,160
Speaker 2: I mean, it's not like they had the eighty a

1963
01:31:55,360 --> 01:31:57,840
Speaker 2: back when steamboats were coming up and down the river.

1964
01:31:58,320 --> 01:32:00,679
Speaker 3: I thought, weld iteriad here.

1965
01:32:00,760 --> 01:32:05,600
Speaker 7: Yeah, I will say the videos, Yeah, I've called you

1966
01:32:05,680 --> 01:32:06,599
Speaker 7: out to talk to people.

1967
01:32:06,760 --> 01:32:08,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, God forbid, I.

1968
01:32:08,080 --> 01:32:09,800
Speaker 7: Will say the videos and the photos I've seen of

1969
01:32:09,840 --> 01:32:12,559
Speaker 7: all the days lined up. That is a really cool

1970
01:32:12,680 --> 01:32:13,720
Speaker 7: visual and especially with.

1971
01:32:13,720 --> 01:32:16,400
Speaker 2: The weather we're having too, it just really makes it pop,

1972
01:32:16,520 --> 01:32:18,640
Speaker 2: so you won't get seasick. I know some people going

1973
01:32:18,640 --> 01:32:20,479
Speaker 2: down to check it out, though, Yeah, I think especially

1974
01:32:20,479 --> 01:32:21,000
Speaker 2: little kids go.

1975
01:32:21,120 --> 01:32:22,760
Speaker 3: Little kids love big boats like that.

1976
01:32:22,760 --> 01:32:24,320
Speaker 11: That's awesome, especially during the day.

1977
01:32:24,320 --> 01:32:25,840
Speaker 7: And if you do get your chance, like if you've

1978
01:32:25,880 --> 01:32:28,320
Speaker 7: never been out on the River and on a boat

1979
01:32:28,360 --> 01:32:30,559
Speaker 7: on the river down down there. It's it's really really

1980
01:32:30,560 --> 01:32:33,200
Speaker 7: fun and it's cool experience. And I think the name

1981
01:32:33,280 --> 01:32:35,360
Speaker 7: River Roots have thrown people off a little bit because

1982
01:32:35,400 --> 01:32:38,599
Speaker 7: it's tall stacks two point zero rights as we were saying.

1983
01:32:38,640 --> 01:32:41,960
Speaker 7: And there's just a slew of you know, sixty plus

1984
01:32:42,040 --> 01:32:45,000
Speaker 7: different music acts that are all around town. So it

1985
01:32:45,040 --> 01:32:49,559
Speaker 7: goes from where the downtown like Gateman's Cove, down to

1986
01:32:49,640 --> 01:32:52,000
Speaker 7: the Black Music Hall of Fame, over onto the Purple

1987
01:32:52,000 --> 01:32:55,120
Speaker 7: People Bridge and over by Newport and Ovation.

1988
01:32:55,400 --> 01:32:57,040
Speaker 3: Okay, so the Ovation.

1989
01:32:56,800 --> 01:32:59,120
Speaker 7: Side, they have their whole Bourbon lineup going on. So

1990
01:32:59,160 --> 01:33:02,360
Speaker 7: the B line different you know, distilleries, and.

1991
01:33:02,520 --> 01:33:04,439
Speaker 3: Different cruises based on it too, right.

1992
01:33:04,520 --> 01:33:07,200
Speaker 7: Different cruises based on different themes. So they have kid

1993
01:33:07,240 --> 01:33:10,160
Speaker 7: friendly themes like Disney princess themes. They have a new

1994
01:33:10,200 --> 01:33:13,160
Speaker 7: Riff cruise, they have a greater cruise, American Legacy Tours,

1995
01:33:13,160 --> 01:33:15,559
Speaker 7: which you know, I'm a big fan of. They're doing

1996
01:33:15,600 --> 01:33:19,160
Speaker 7: some history related cruises and just some basic lunch and

1997
01:33:19,200 --> 01:33:21,679
Speaker 7: dinner cruises for the opportunity to listen to the music

1998
01:33:21,800 --> 01:33:23,960
Speaker 7: and and take a nice little boat ride.

1999
01:33:24,000 --> 01:33:25,479
Speaker 11: So it's just something fun to do.

2000
01:33:25,560 --> 01:33:27,680
Speaker 7: Like you said, the weather's nice, and the tickets are

2001
01:33:27,720 --> 01:33:30,519
Speaker 7: relatively you know reasonable, They're priced around you know, thirty

2002
01:33:30,520 --> 01:33:31,080
Speaker 7: bucks for.

2003
01:33:31,000 --> 01:33:32,840
Speaker 11: One of the cruises, so nothing crazy.

2004
01:33:32,960 --> 01:33:35,599
Speaker 7: And it's your chance to walk around downtown and walk

2005
01:33:35,640 --> 01:33:37,879
Speaker 7: around down by the river and take some nice photos.

2006
01:33:38,040 --> 01:33:40,040
Speaker 7: Turn this into your Christmas card opportunity.

2007
01:33:40,360 --> 01:33:40,880
Speaker 11: How about that?

2008
01:33:41,120 --> 01:33:41,320
Speaker 3: Yeah?

2009
01:33:41,400 --> 01:33:45,639
Speaker 7: Right, the river, this could this could be started yesterday

2010
01:33:45,640 --> 01:33:47,599
Speaker 7: and it runs till the end of the weekend the twelveth.

2011
01:33:48,600 --> 01:33:49,240
Speaker 11: See how it goes?

2012
01:33:49,360 --> 01:33:53,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, let's we always forget to talk about food,

2013
01:33:54,200 --> 01:33:54,719
Speaker 2: do we show?

2014
01:33:54,960 --> 01:33:55,320
Speaker 3: Well?

2015
01:33:55,360 --> 01:33:58,280
Speaker 2: It always is like an after the restaurant ada. Yeah, yeah,

2016
01:33:58,280 --> 01:34:00,080
Speaker 2: why do we bump something off to the top? And

2017
01:34:00,200 --> 01:34:02,920
Speaker 2: I know you're excited to talk about.

2018
01:34:02,680 --> 01:34:05,840
Speaker 7: I am so excited to talk about So first of all,

2019
01:34:05,880 --> 01:34:07,280
Speaker 7: if you're like, how.

2020
01:34:07,120 --> 01:34:09,960
Speaker 2: Do you spell it, it's e t X E E

2021
01:34:10,200 --> 01:34:11,559
Speaker 2: T Basque so.

2022
01:34:11,640 --> 01:34:14,639
Speaker 11: The yes so and people are like what what is back.

2023
01:34:14,560 --> 01:34:19,160
Speaker 7: The ex silent and eja means home in Basque, and

2024
01:34:19,160 --> 01:34:22,960
Speaker 7: it's the region between France and Spain, in this small

2025
01:34:23,000 --> 01:34:26,599
Speaker 7: little region and allegedly they are known to have some

2026
01:34:26,680 --> 01:34:29,799
Speaker 7: of the most Michelin star restaurants.

2027
01:34:29,840 --> 01:34:30,839
Speaker 3: Yes, that's very true.

2028
01:34:32,320 --> 01:34:35,720
Speaker 2: You know about the Basque of because because when I

2029
01:34:35,800 --> 01:34:38,120
Speaker 2: think about the culinary history of France, and then you

2030
01:34:38,160 --> 01:34:39,599
Speaker 2: have Spanish food, which is amazing.

2031
01:34:39,760 --> 01:34:41,080
Speaker 3: You put those two things together.

2032
01:34:40,840 --> 01:34:42,920
Speaker 7: And then you incorporate the wine on top of it.

2033
01:34:43,520 --> 01:34:47,960
Speaker 7: Oh my goodness. So the really big hitter of etch

2034
01:34:48,000 --> 01:34:52,360
Speaker 7: A is the executive chef of Boca David, chef Maturn.

2035
01:34:53,439 --> 01:34:55,680
Speaker 7: He left along with his partner Heather together and they

2036
01:34:55,720 --> 01:34:57,720
Speaker 7: both come from Boca and they're starting their own thing.

2037
01:34:57,760 --> 01:35:01,040
Speaker 7: And that's what is and while they build and find

2038
01:35:01,040 --> 01:35:04,400
Speaker 7: their forever home. Really smart concept for anyone who's in

2039
01:35:04,439 --> 01:35:08,440
Speaker 7: the hospitality and restaurant business. They're doing a culinary residency.

2040
01:35:08,720 --> 01:35:11,719
Speaker 7: So two days a week Monday and sun or Sunday

2041
01:35:11,720 --> 01:35:13,720
Speaker 7: and Monday at the Aperture.

2042
01:35:14,120 --> 01:35:16,320
Speaker 11: So it's in East Walnut Walnut Hills area.

2043
01:35:16,479 --> 01:35:20,240
Speaker 7: So the Aperture is already an established restaurant and Jordan,

2044
01:35:20,280 --> 01:35:23,479
Speaker 7: who is the executive chef of Aperture, he's won James

2045
01:35:23,479 --> 01:35:26,559
Speaker 7: Beard Awards all the things. So they are operating in

2046
01:35:26,800 --> 01:35:31,320
Speaker 7: the Aperture space on Sundays and Mondays and launching their

2047
01:35:31,439 --> 01:35:34,320
Speaker 7: whole concept, their own menus. So this is a really

2048
01:35:34,360 --> 01:35:37,800
Speaker 7: fun experience not only to kind of get a new

2049
01:35:37,840 --> 01:35:41,880
Speaker 7: culinary experience, but taste what their menus all about while

2050
01:35:41,880 --> 01:35:43,360
Speaker 7: they search and build out there.

2051
01:35:43,439 --> 01:35:46,600
Speaker 3: So they're waiting to build. But this is just like temporary.

2052
01:35:46,640 --> 01:35:50,000
Speaker 7: This is like this is temporary.

2053
01:35:50,680 --> 01:35:54,000
Speaker 11: Nice, We'll add that to the marketing lineup.

2054
01:35:54,120 --> 01:35:55,559
Speaker 3: I'm just saying, all right, So it's like a pop

2055
01:35:55,640 --> 01:35:56,880
Speaker 3: up thing for a little while today.

2056
01:35:57,080 --> 01:36:01,599
Speaker 7: Yeah, a culinary residency to make it feel a little

2057
01:36:01,600 --> 01:36:03,760
Speaker 7: bit more sophisticated than of being a pop up.

2058
01:36:03,840 --> 01:36:06,360
Speaker 3: And imagine with the food he scene here, it's probably sold.

2059
01:36:06,160 --> 01:36:09,600
Speaker 7: Out to the Yeah, so this is this is the

2060
01:36:09,640 --> 01:36:12,320
Speaker 7: cool part is it's till the end of the year there.

2061
01:36:12,360 --> 01:36:16,200
Speaker 7: October is already booked up, November it's about eighty to

2062
01:36:16,280 --> 01:36:19,200
Speaker 7: ninety percent booked up, and December starting to book up

2063
01:36:19,200 --> 01:36:21,439
Speaker 7: as well. This could be a really great opportunity if

2064
01:36:21,439 --> 01:36:24,080
Speaker 7: you're looking for something just something different to try. Also,

2065
01:36:24,120 --> 01:36:26,679
Speaker 7: the holidays are around the corner. But when I tell you,

2066
01:36:27,000 --> 01:36:30,120
Speaker 7: the food is incredible because the executive chef of bog

2067
01:36:30,560 --> 01:36:34,160
Speaker 7: yeah well yea for the last decade he was over there,

2068
01:36:34,280 --> 01:36:38,120
Speaker 7: so everything from meats and cheese plotters. The cheeses are

2069
01:36:38,160 --> 01:36:42,799
Speaker 7: so good to tapas large plates, steaks and their.

2070
01:36:43,320 --> 01:36:44,559
Speaker 3: Day it's got to be pretty good.

2071
01:36:44,680 --> 01:36:45,839
Speaker 11: Oh my god, Okay.

2072
01:36:46,120 --> 01:36:49,040
Speaker 7: So they have a pork shoulder dish and it's seasoned

2073
01:36:49,040 --> 01:36:50,880
Speaker 7: with like a little bit of salt on top. It

2074
01:36:51,000 --> 01:36:54,160
Speaker 7: is one of the best dishes I have ever found it.

2075
01:36:54,640 --> 01:36:56,720
Speaker 2: And they cook the park shoulders because now here it

2076
01:36:56,720 --> 01:36:58,280
Speaker 2: would be like, wow, just throw it on the smoker

2077
01:36:58,280 --> 01:36:58,840
Speaker 2: for a few hours.

2078
01:36:58,880 --> 01:36:59,200
Speaker 4: Are good?

2079
01:36:59,320 --> 01:37:02,559
Speaker 7: Yeah, So they the beauty behind the kitchen is so

2080
01:37:02,760 --> 01:37:04,680
Speaker 7: well thought out. And that's a big reason why they

2081
01:37:04,680 --> 01:37:08,160
Speaker 7: wanted to have their space at the aperture is they

2082
01:37:08,200 --> 01:37:12,679
Speaker 7: have a like a wood fired grill basically in the kitchen,

2083
01:37:14,120 --> 01:37:15,960
Speaker 7: and then you could see them cooking because there's a

2084
01:37:16,000 --> 01:37:18,840
Speaker 7: window that opens up so you could talk to David

2085
01:37:18,880 --> 01:37:20,679
Speaker 7: and you could talk to the staff and he brings

2086
01:37:20,720 --> 01:37:24,439
Speaker 7: out these huge slabs of meat to the table where

2087
01:37:24,479 --> 01:37:27,280
Speaker 7: you then get to pick portion of the meat you have.

2088
01:37:27,880 --> 01:37:28,400
Speaker 11: Really cool.

2089
01:37:28,439 --> 01:37:31,519
Speaker 7: They also have this gin cart, so Heather will roll

2090
01:37:31,560 --> 01:37:36,240
Speaker 7: out the gin cart and and so Molly Wellmans pick

2091
01:37:36,280 --> 01:37:40,800
Speaker 7: your gin, pick your sides in it. She'll make it

2092
01:37:40,800 --> 01:37:42,720
Speaker 7: for you on the fly. They also will have this

2093
01:37:42,800 --> 01:37:47,080
Speaker 7: bone marrow where they do a sherry luge. So you're

2094
01:37:47,160 --> 01:37:49,680
Speaker 7: drinking the sherry and they'll pour the sherry down the

2095
01:37:49,720 --> 01:37:53,400
Speaker 7: bone marrow and then you're it's it's actually, but they

2096
01:37:53,439 --> 01:37:55,320
Speaker 7: do that in the best region. So they took that

2097
01:37:55,880 --> 01:37:59,400
Speaker 7: and they're bringing these small flares and then their bass.

2098
01:37:59,200 --> 01:38:03,160
Speaker 11: Cheesecake is so sounds amazing good. It's so fun.

2099
01:38:03,720 --> 01:38:06,760
Speaker 7: And they have one of the best cocktails I've ever had.

2100
01:38:07,160 --> 01:38:11,360
Speaker 7: It's real Mundos, they real, they they know it's Mundos

2101
01:38:11,400 --> 01:38:14,160
Speaker 7: something like that. It's this bourbon cocktail with sherry in

2102
01:38:14,240 --> 01:38:16,720
Speaker 7: it and it has this wine floater on top, a

2103
01:38:16,720 --> 01:38:19,680
Speaker 7: little bit of a lemon. It is so refreshing, beautiful,

2104
01:38:20,320 --> 01:38:21,520
Speaker 7: very instagram.

2105
01:38:21,120 --> 01:38:23,680
Speaker 3: All right, so we'll see when goes in. This is

2106
01:38:23,720 --> 01:38:24,160
Speaker 3: just so it.

2107
01:38:24,560 --> 01:38:27,400
Speaker 7: Started October fifth, Yeah, October fifth till the end of

2108
01:38:27,400 --> 01:38:31,320
Speaker 7: the year. Sundays and Mondays. Go to et JA Cincinnati

2109
01:38:31,439 --> 01:38:34,919
Speaker 7: dot com to book your reservation. Book it because they're.

2110
01:38:35,040 --> 01:38:37,640
Speaker 3: It's it's at X by the way, tell you spell it.

2111
01:38:37,680 --> 01:38:41,760
Speaker 2: All right, let's talk drinks. Let's talks.

2112
01:38:41,920 --> 01:38:45,960
Speaker 11: Yeah. So do you remember the drinkery next to Japs.

2113
01:38:46,640 --> 01:38:50,720
Speaker 7: Yeah, so they have done a completely new concept. It's

2114
01:38:50,760 --> 01:38:55,160
Speaker 7: now called Nice Life. So those who are familiar with

2115
01:38:55,200 --> 01:38:56,800
Speaker 7: the drinkery it was next as I said, it was

2116
01:38:56,840 --> 01:38:59,160
Speaker 7: next to Japs. And there's always this like little duo

2117
01:38:59,280 --> 01:39:03,040
Speaker 7: and October third of four EG. They ended up starting

2118
01:39:03,040 --> 01:39:06,200
Speaker 7: this new concept. It's very disco and thought it inspired

2119
01:39:06,240 --> 01:39:08,120
Speaker 7: cocktail bar and dance hall.

2120
01:39:08,240 --> 01:39:08,479
Speaker 2: Yeah.

2121
01:39:08,600 --> 01:39:13,760
Speaker 11: So it's a lot of retro yah disco balls.

2122
01:39:13,640 --> 01:39:15,760
Speaker 3: Of open shirts with chest hair. He's kind of thing.

2123
01:39:16,120 --> 01:39:16,320
Speaker 11: I think.

2124
01:39:16,760 --> 01:39:17,920
Speaker 3: I don't know what the men do, but the women

2125
01:39:17,920 --> 01:39:18,439
Speaker 3: are open.

2126
01:39:18,240 --> 01:39:19,000
Speaker 6: The chest chair.

2127
01:39:19,080 --> 01:39:22,519
Speaker 3: Yeah, I gotcha. You never know this necklace, I got you.

2128
01:39:22,800 --> 01:39:25,000
Speaker 2: But I'm just shopping up some coke in the bathroom

2129
01:39:25,000 --> 01:39:26,519
Speaker 2: and they're doing it all they go and fall in on.

2130
01:39:26,479 --> 01:39:27,280
Speaker 6: This or what you know.

2131
01:39:27,320 --> 01:39:29,080
Speaker 7: I didn't really get a good look at the bathrooms,

2132
01:39:29,080 --> 01:39:34,599
Speaker 7: but I'll check. And their cocktails are all based on it.

2133
01:39:34,680 --> 01:39:38,320
Speaker 7: So they have this Rosemary Rhap City Saturday Night Cedar

2134
01:39:39,479 --> 01:39:42,240
Speaker 7: and it's a rotating menu. But they're bringing in acoustic

2135
01:39:42,320 --> 01:39:45,240
Speaker 7: acts and they're gonna have party cover bands, karaoke nights,

2136
01:39:45,600 --> 01:39:49,240
Speaker 7: local and national DJs they're bringing in and it's just

2137
01:39:49,280 --> 01:39:51,480
Speaker 7: a it's it needed a revamp.

2138
01:39:51,439 --> 01:39:54,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, because it's been a couple one. It goes back

2139
01:39:54,800 --> 01:39:58,040
Speaker 2: to like at least fifteen fifteen. It feels like, yeah,

2140
01:39:58,080 --> 01:40:01,639
Speaker 2: I mean I was in college, I was going there.

2141
01:40:01,680 --> 01:40:03,000
Speaker 3: Oh wow, okay, yeah.

2142
01:40:02,760 --> 01:40:04,840
Speaker 11: So you know the way you said that just made

2143
01:40:04,880 --> 01:40:05,439
Speaker 11: me feel old.

2144
01:40:06,080 --> 01:40:08,360
Speaker 2: I think how I felt fifteen years ago. You were

2145
01:40:08,360 --> 01:40:12,559
Speaker 2: in college. Fifteen years ago I was here.

2146
01:40:13,160 --> 01:40:15,519
Speaker 7: I have to admit this is why I can't really

2147
01:40:15,520 --> 01:40:18,759
Speaker 7: go I don't go out out really late as much anymore,

2148
01:40:18,800 --> 01:40:19,880
Speaker 7: because you old.

2149
01:40:21,080 --> 01:40:23,080
Speaker 2: I went to bed at nine last night. What are

2150
01:40:23,080 --> 01:40:25,840
Speaker 2: you talking about? I was looking forward to it. Yeah,

2151
01:40:26,320 --> 01:40:29,240
Speaker 2: like I'm gonna get on my get on my bipad out,

2152
01:40:29,240 --> 01:40:29,759
Speaker 2: read a book.

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Speaker 11: What time do you go to b Uh?

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Speaker 3: Here's about ten thirty eleven.

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Speaker 11: But I was really like a sleep by ten ten thirty.

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01:40:36,080 --> 01:40:37,920
Speaker 2: By eleven, Usually I fall. It takes me a while

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01:40:37,920 --> 01:40:43,720
Speaker 2: to land the plane. Michelle, She's like, I'm not really that. Like,

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Speaker 2: I don't know how the hell she does it? Like me,

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01:40:46,760 --> 01:40:50,160
Speaker 2: I got, you know, awful thoughts going and everything else,

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01:40:50,200 --> 01:40:52,560
Speaker 2: and I take a melotone in and then eventually.

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01:40:52,280 --> 01:40:53,880
Speaker 11: Well then how do you do you take a melotone in?

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01:40:53,920 --> 01:40:54,120
Speaker 4: Yeah?

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01:40:54,120 --> 01:40:55,800
Speaker 2: I take like I take a half away. I take

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01:40:55,800 --> 01:41:00,360
Speaker 2: a whole melotone and it does not work. Well, I'm

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Speaker 2: just about five forty five.

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01:41:01,760 --> 01:41:05,720
Speaker 11: I am so groggy when I take a military wouldn't.

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01:41:05,360 --> 01:41:06,120
Speaker 3: Be you're taking too much?

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01:41:06,120 --> 01:41:07,680
Speaker 2: Well, you're taking I learned you're taking too much, so

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01:41:07,720 --> 01:41:09,920
Speaker 2: I split the pill down like too even, maybe like

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Speaker 2: a third of a five MILLIGRAMDMU or three milligram.

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01:41:12,720 --> 01:41:14,640
Speaker 3: I don't watch, don't do it.

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01:41:14,840 --> 01:41:15,960
Speaker 11: Sometimes they have those.

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01:41:15,800 --> 01:41:19,599
Speaker 7: Like sleepy less try less, you know. But I do

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01:41:19,640 --> 01:41:24,000
Speaker 7: get my best creative thoughts as I'm falling asleep. Sometimes

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01:41:24,000 --> 01:41:25,720
Speaker 7: well sometimes I'll write them down and I'll wake up

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01:41:25,760 --> 01:41:27,720
Speaker 7: in the morning, and morning it'll be like, what right

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Speaker 7: was I saying?

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01:41:28,960 --> 01:41:29,439
Speaker 11: Anyway?

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01:41:29,600 --> 01:41:32,720
Speaker 7: Anyway, So if you want to check out a new

2180
01:41:32,760 --> 01:41:34,639
Speaker 7: bar and be out till two o'clock in the morning,

2181
01:41:34,960 --> 01:41:38,080
Speaker 7: check out Nice Life. Their branding is really cool. I'm

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01:41:38,120 --> 01:41:40,200
Speaker 7: a fan, and it's all disco themed.

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01:41:40,360 --> 01:41:43,760
Speaker 2: Okay, cool, bring that back you got any I feel

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01:41:43,800 --> 01:41:46,639
Speaker 2: like we should talk Halloween stendny Halloween stuff, prettymature Halloween

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Speaker 2: next couple of weeks.

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01:41:47,439 --> 01:41:48,600
Speaker 11: Yeah, Halloween's coming up.

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01:41:48,640 --> 01:41:52,080
Speaker 7: I'm you know, the family friendly vibe the zoo is

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01:41:52,120 --> 01:41:53,519
Speaker 7: always a yeah.

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01:41:53,720 --> 01:41:55,679
Speaker 11: They do this jack o' lantern glow.

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01:41:56,160 --> 01:42:00,479
Speaker 2: A crush of pumpkin, Oh my god, to eat the

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01:42:00,479 --> 01:42:01,920
Speaker 2: watermelon pumpkin hole.

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01:42:02,080 --> 01:42:04,040
Speaker 3: I'm gonna crush crush and pumpkins.

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01:42:04,320 --> 01:42:06,360
Speaker 11: You think most like if there's.

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01:42:07,520 --> 01:42:09,160
Speaker 2: Like they throw those in the girla you know, the

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01:42:09,200 --> 01:42:10,439
Speaker 2: frozen pumpkins or whatever.

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Speaker 3: The girls go nuts.

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Speaker 7: With them, the watermelon and the pumpkin. I feel like

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01:42:13,600 --> 01:42:16,080
Speaker 7: that's the same, the same family food group.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and you know what, Simeons absolutely love pumpkin spice too,

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01:42:21,080 --> 01:42:24,280
Speaker 2: not just a human Yeah yeah yeah.

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Speaker 11: Really leaning into those solace.

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Speaker 3: This year absolutely solid.

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01:42:27,760 --> 01:42:28,040
Speaker 7: Uh So.

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Speaker 11: Yeah.

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Speaker 7: The Zoo has the jack O Lantern Glow and that's

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01:42:30,520 --> 01:42:33,040
Speaker 7: fun because very similar to all of their events that

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01:42:33,040 --> 01:42:35,720
Speaker 7: they do, they they go above and beyond worth with

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01:42:35,800 --> 01:42:38,920
Speaker 7: their decor, so great time to bring the little kiddos.

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Speaker 11: And then they also have the hull zooeene. Yeah, you

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01:42:41,640 --> 01:42:43,040
Speaker 11: can dress up the little kiddos.

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01:42:43,120 --> 01:42:44,680
Speaker 2: I love this time of earth, is it because like

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01:42:44,760 --> 01:42:47,200
Speaker 2: the Halloween spice and then once you start.

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01:42:47,000 --> 01:42:48,160
Speaker 3: The lights, that's awesome.

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Speaker 11: Yes, I know, especially if.

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01:42:49,640 --> 01:42:51,200
Speaker 2: You get a little snow on the ground for some reason,

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01:42:51,160 --> 01:42:53,519
Speaker 2: the snow and the lights together it's pretty.

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01:42:53,960 --> 01:42:57,440
Speaker 11: Hold on, you're really jumping ahead snow and Halloween.

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01:42:57,760 --> 01:43:00,000
Speaker 3: No no, no, I said, Christmas the holliy life.

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01:43:00,479 --> 01:43:01,320
Speaker 11: Yeah, we're there.

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01:43:01,560 --> 01:43:02,720
Speaker 3: I know, We're not like this.

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01:43:02,920 --> 01:43:05,240
Speaker 7: I am I'm in it. You ready, I'm ready. I'm

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Speaker 7: going to put on my Christmas tree in October you.

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Speaker 2: Know what I saw last night and I heard one

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01:43:09,120 --> 01:43:11,320
Speaker 2: on the radio, But then I saw a commercial home

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01:43:11,400 --> 01:43:16,600
Speaker 2: depot holiday Christmas commercial home yesterday, yesterday.

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Speaker 3: That night, on the ninth of October.

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Speaker 11: But that makes sense.

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01:43:20,960 --> 01:43:23,080
Speaker 7: Over the last couple of years again, Black Friday could

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Speaker 7: be tomorrow and all of these holiday sales are going

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01:43:25,080 --> 01:43:27,800
Speaker 7: to be happening on Amazon. You go into Michael's, every

2231
01:43:27,880 --> 01:43:30,080
Speaker 7: Christmas tree possible is up, and the Halloween stuff is

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01:43:30,120 --> 01:43:30,840
Speaker 7: already for sale.

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01:43:30,880 --> 01:43:33,320
Speaker 2: The more depressing, like life events in the world and

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01:43:33,360 --> 01:43:35,840
Speaker 2: everything gets, the earlier we move Christmas up. You know,

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01:43:35,840 --> 01:43:37,960
Speaker 2: it's not because I need to find join our Yeah,

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01:43:37,960 --> 01:43:40,000
Speaker 2: but here's the thing. If you really hate Christmas, doesn't

2237
01:43:40,040 --> 01:43:42,439
Speaker 2: that depressing more? Because there's people that hate the holidays,

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01:43:42,800 --> 01:43:43,320
Speaker 2: not every.

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Speaker 3: Rel I know.

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Speaker 2: I know, all right, av Mart Local loop Boy depression

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01:43:47,280 --> 01:43:49,080
Speaker 2: right up at the end there that that's good.

2242
01:43:49,160 --> 01:43:50,599
Speaker 3: That's really good. It's really good.

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01:43:50,960 --> 01:43:54,759
Speaker 7: So are a little family friendly Halliday.

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01:43:54,960 --> 01:43:56,479
Speaker 11: Go there, go check out Nice Life.

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01:43:56,520 --> 01:43:59,440
Speaker 3: You can get in Nice Life, Nice Life Extra Japs.

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01:43:59,320 --> 01:44:03,200
Speaker 7: Yep job, some family friendly Halloween fun at the Zoo,

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01:44:03,360 --> 01:44:05,639
Speaker 7: And of course there's always Kings Island Halloween Haunt, which

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01:44:05,680 --> 01:44:06,800
Speaker 7: I'm actually going this year.

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01:44:06,920 --> 01:44:08,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, so hyped.

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Speaker 11: I'm ready to be scared, right, I need to feel something.

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Speaker 2: All I drive by it and there's like the fog

2252
01:44:13,720 --> 01:44:16,160
Speaker 2: is still hanging in the hair Arab They their fog

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01:44:16,200 --> 01:44:19,280
Speaker 2: budget's pretty big there, just so you don't huge how

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01:44:19,360 --> 01:44:21,280
Speaker 2: much do you spend on FuG It rolls out to

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Speaker 2: the parking its almost goes to seventy one way. Are

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Speaker 2: driving past Kings driving the fog was blown across the

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01:44:26,680 --> 01:44:29,040
Speaker 2: road like it's like a nautical mile away from where

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01:44:29,040 --> 01:44:33,760
Speaker 2: the action is. Maybe that's gone uh probably about five

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Speaker 2: years ago.

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Speaker 11: Are you a roller coaster guy?

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01:44:36,080 --> 01:44:38,640
Speaker 3: I like roller coasters.

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01:44:38,840 --> 01:44:40,559
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I see this is but this is

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01:44:40,560 --> 01:44:43,519
Speaker 7: why I like the Halloween hantics at King's Island, because

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01:44:43,520 --> 01:44:46,479
Speaker 7: you can go yes for the spooky theme and have people.

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01:44:46,320 --> 01:44:46,920
Speaker 11: Jump out at you.

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01:44:47,000 --> 01:44:48,559
Speaker 2: What I can jump on a ride, but I'm also

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01:44:48,560 --> 01:44:50,880
Speaker 2: there for the right dry your tears. I'm the Sun

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01:44:50,880 --> 01:44:53,559
Speaker 2: of Beast. Anyway, there's Alie Martin at at Ellie Martin

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01:44:53,600 --> 01:44:56,599
Speaker 2: eight uh and of course the Local Loop is where

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01:44:56,600 --> 01:44:58,880
Speaker 2: she hangs out on YouTube as well. Yeah all right,

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01:44:59,000 --> 01:45:02,080
Speaker 2: good seeing him, have a great week. We'll chat again

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01:45:02,080 --> 01:45:06,120
Speaker 2: next Rooters. See you gotta I gotta roll seven hundred,

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Speaker 2: Nobody love them.