WEBVTT - 10-14-25 Thom Brennaman 0:00:02.040 --> 0:00:02.680 Light A ten. 0:00:02.840 --> 0:00:06.600 Welcome to the morning show. You're on seven hundred wl W. 0:00:08.200 --> 0:00:10.560 Hope your days off to a great start, and we 0:00:10.640 --> 0:00:15.880 say good morning to the Republican nominee running for mayor 0:00:15.960 --> 0:00:19.040 of Cincinnati kind enough to join us on very short notice. 0:00:19.079 --> 0:00:21.880 I might add so Corey Bowman, thank you, Good morning 0:00:21.880 --> 0:00:24.079 to you, sir. Hope Paul's well on this Tuesday. 0:00:25.640 --> 0:00:27.520 Hey, good morning Tom. Thank you to you and your 0:00:27.560 --> 0:00:28.560 listeners for having me. 0:00:28.840 --> 0:00:29.480 Absolutely. 0:00:29.480 --> 0:00:32.040 Hey, I want to get right into it because again, 0:00:32.200 --> 0:00:36.480 the last twenty four forty eight hours, we've seen four 0:00:36.479 --> 0:00:39.080 more shootings in Cincinnati. 0:00:40.000 --> 0:00:41.360 You came out with. 0:00:43.080 --> 0:00:46.839 Tweet I guess on x now wondering what in the 0:00:46.880 --> 0:00:49.600 world is going on and why this stuff just continues 0:00:49.640 --> 0:00:53.479 to happen over and over and over and seemingly over again. 0:00:56.120 --> 0:00:56.360 Yeah. 0:00:56.400 --> 0:00:58.880 Well, I mean, I think that people in Cincinnati are 0:00:58.960 --> 0:01:01.480 tired of hearing these are ports over and over again 0:01:01.560 --> 0:01:02.520 of violence. 0:01:02.200 --> 0:01:03.000 On the streets. 0:01:03.440 --> 0:01:05.480 I think what they're more tired of is hearing from 0:01:05.600 --> 0:01:07.600 leadership that all it's unacceptable. 0:01:07.680 --> 0:01:08.920 We've got to make changes. 0:01:09.360 --> 0:01:11.640 So this is what we've elected these officials to do, 0:01:11.800 --> 0:01:14.120 is to manage our city, and it's not being done 0:01:14.240 --> 0:01:14.600 right now. 0:01:14.760 --> 0:01:16.640 You know, like you said, there's four people's. 0:01:16.319 --> 0:01:20.280 Shop last night, one was a homicide in Westwood, and 0:01:20.680 --> 0:01:24.479 this is something that happened. Actually just last week there 0:01:24.520 --> 0:01:27.600 was another shooting in Fountain Square. And then over the 0:01:27.640 --> 0:01:30.119 weekend too, we got to see that there's actually six 0:01:30.160 --> 0:01:32.840 shootings that happened over the weekend if you include Monday. 0:01:33.360 --> 0:01:36.000 So this is spiraling out of control. This is coming 0:01:36.040 --> 0:01:39.440 from somebody that's downtown. This isn't a perception issue. This 0:01:39.520 --> 0:01:41.680 is a reality issue, and something. 0:01:41.400 --> 0:01:42.440 Needs to be done about it. 0:01:42.880 --> 0:01:46.240 Yeah, I mean, you live downtown, so you know exactly 0:01:46.440 --> 0:01:49.520 what it's like. And you know they tell us about 0:01:49.560 --> 0:01:51.960 you know, crime is down all over the city. But 0:01:52.000 --> 0:01:54.920 I've continued to maintain that when they tell us that 0:01:55.520 --> 0:01:58.800 they are talking, which includes neighborhoods like Mount Lookout in 0:01:58.960 --> 0:02:01.880 Hyde Park in place is like that. Whereas when you 0:02:01.920 --> 0:02:04.560 look in downtown, you look in over the Rhine in 0:02:04.640 --> 0:02:08.440 particular even Lower Price Hill is where we are seeing 0:02:08.560 --> 0:02:12.280 more and more and more and more violence. Homicides in 0:02:12.320 --> 0:02:14.520 the last twenty eight days compared to a year ago, 0:02:14.960 --> 0:02:18.400 up two hundred and fifty percent. Tell me, based on 0:02:18.520 --> 0:02:22.360 what you know that it's being done. Now, what would you, 0:02:22.600 --> 0:02:26.639 Corey Bowman, do differently to address crime in the City 0:02:26.639 --> 0:02:27.440 of Cincinnati. 0:02:29.280 --> 0:02:31.080 Well, I think you have to look at it from 0:02:31.120 --> 0:02:33.920 a short term and a long term perspective. You know, 0:02:34.000 --> 0:02:36.880 so long term, what you're seeing now on our streets 0:02:37.000 --> 0:02:39.239 is the result of long term and competency. 0:02:39.400 --> 0:02:39.840 You know, we. 0:02:39.800 --> 0:02:44.000 Didn't start this administration off four years ago with hiring 0:02:44.040 --> 0:02:47.560 police officers. They actually campaigned on lowering the police force. 0:02:47.880 --> 0:02:50.480 But now just an election year, with all the results 0:02:50.480 --> 0:02:53.960 of the rise and violent crime downtown, now they're considering 0:02:54.280 --> 0:02:57.880 putting more money in the department. They're considering the lateral hires, 0:02:58.520 --> 0:03:02.200 they're considering upping the academy when it comes to the 0:03:02.240 --> 0:03:04.880 classes and recruiting, and that's all. 0:03:04.760 --> 0:03:06.360 Stuff that needs to be done, but it need to 0:03:06.360 --> 0:03:07.520 be done four years ago. 0:03:07.919 --> 0:03:11.320 Right now, we're about two hundred officers below the compliment. 0:03:11.760 --> 0:03:15.120 And by the way, those numbers of what is suggested 0:03:15.200 --> 0:03:17.040 that we need in the city. 0:03:17.000 --> 0:03:19.359 Those numbers haven't been looked at in over a. 0:03:19.360 --> 0:03:22.640 Decade, and so those numbers need to be reevaluated. We 0:03:22.720 --> 0:03:25.800 need to know how many officers do we need to 0:03:25.800 --> 0:03:27.680 have downtown, and then we need. 0:03:27.560 --> 0:03:29.080 To recruit, recruit, recruit. 0:03:29.120 --> 0:03:31.359 We need to hire higher hire, and we need to 0:03:31.400 --> 0:03:35.080 be able to have a police force that matches that compliment. 0:03:35.120 --> 0:03:38.560 And I will say this, I talked with firefighters. Their 0:03:38.640 --> 0:03:42.000 compliment is actually low, about the same amount as far 0:03:42.000 --> 0:03:43.480 as about twenty percent. 0:03:43.240 --> 0:03:43.960 Down as well. 0:03:44.040 --> 0:03:47.000 So we need to focus on hiring and equipping firefighters 0:03:47.040 --> 0:03:49.760 as well, because these are the brave individuals that go 0:03:49.800 --> 0:03:52.840 into the crime scene before a lot of times they're 0:03:52.840 --> 0:03:55.840 clearing the crime scenes, are prepping it before the police 0:03:55.880 --> 0:03:59.240 officers come. And so we need to just overall make 0:03:59.280 --> 0:04:03.640 sure that our law enforcement, our first responders, have our 0:04:03.680 --> 0:04:05.000 support from city hall. 0:04:05.080 --> 0:04:07.800 That's not what's happening as far as the short term goes. 0:04:07.880 --> 0:04:08.320 Right now. 0:04:08.600 --> 0:04:11.240 A lot of times people are saying that, oh, well, 0:04:11.280 --> 0:04:14.760 he's calling in the National Guard, like you see nationally happening. 0:04:15.240 --> 0:04:19.080 We don't necessarily have violent riots that are happening downtown. 0:04:19.560 --> 0:04:21.760 But I think that right now, when I talk to 0:04:21.800 --> 0:04:24.920 the officers, their number one thing is that they're not 0:04:25.000 --> 0:04:27.599 asking for help from outside. They're just asking to be 0:04:27.640 --> 0:04:30.960 able to do their jobs properly, and that's not being 0:04:31.040 --> 0:04:35.080 done from city Hall. There's iniches or there's commands from 0:04:35.160 --> 0:04:38.520 up top that are really holding them back. From enforcing, 0:04:38.560 --> 0:04:40.840 whether it be with the non pursuit laws or whether 0:04:40.880 --> 0:04:44.400 it be with not citing people for certain crimes the 0:04:44.440 --> 0:04:45.200 way they should. 0:04:45.560 --> 0:04:47.040 That needs to change, number one. 0:04:47.240 --> 0:04:50.159 And then finally I would accept the full package from 0:04:50.160 --> 0:04:52.480 the state with Governor Dwine to make sure that we're 0:04:52.520 --> 0:04:54.279 saving as many lives as possible. 0:04:54.480 --> 0:04:56.120 Well, that's where I was going. I want to ask 0:04:56.160 --> 0:05:00.800 you about two different individuals. Let's start with the governor. 0:05:01.160 --> 0:05:03.880 And there have been results, very good results. It took 0:05:03.920 --> 0:05:06.839 place in Columbus, took place in Cleveland, took place in Dayton, 0:05:07.279 --> 0:05:12.080 where the governor offered local police some additional help and 0:05:12.240 --> 0:05:15.960 they accepted it wholeheartedly. For whatever reason, here in Cincinnati, 0:05:16.240 --> 0:05:18.840 we're only accepting it two days a week. 0:05:19.120 --> 0:05:21.640 Why is that? Or two days a month? Why is that? 0:05:23.240 --> 0:05:23.440 Well? 0:05:23.480 --> 0:05:26.680 I spoke with a local SWAT officer, you know, because 0:05:26.680 --> 0:05:29.520 we have our local Cincinnati squad, then you have federal 0:05:30.160 --> 0:05:31.880 and now I was asking him, you know, how are 0:05:31.880 --> 0:05:34.320 things going from a funding aspect from you guys, and 0:05:34.320 --> 0:05:36.279 they said, well, we can't really get you know, the 0:05:36.320 --> 0:05:38.000 proper funding for gear. 0:05:37.760 --> 0:05:40.040 That we need. We can't even get night vision right now. 0:05:40.560 --> 0:05:42.479 And then I asked them, you know, I just said, 0:05:42.520 --> 0:05:45.599 it just so happened that a very strong political figure 0:05:46.160 --> 0:05:50.479 lives in the Cincinnati area. I said, so, why wouldn't 0:05:50.520 --> 0:05:52.320 we use that to our advantage of trying to get 0:05:52.360 --> 0:05:56.760 as many resources to the police department as possible when 0:05:56.800 --> 0:05:57.679 it comes to our city. 0:05:57.760 --> 0:05:59.440 And this is what the SWAT officer told me. 0:05:59.520 --> 0:06:02.680 He said that City Hall is an island unto themselves. 0:06:03.000 --> 0:06:05.880 They refuse to work with any other. 0:06:05.880 --> 0:06:08.960 Whether it be the state, whether it be the federal 0:06:09.320 --> 0:06:10.880 because they don't agree. 0:06:10.640 --> 0:06:12.839 With the politics of it all. But this is a 0:06:12.880 --> 0:06:14.520 point where we've got to be able. 0:06:14.240 --> 0:06:17.040 To save lives and we need to go across the aisle, 0:06:17.160 --> 0:06:19.440 whether it be with the county, with the state, or 0:06:19.480 --> 0:06:21.680 with the federal, to be able to help people the 0:06:21.720 --> 0:06:23.760 most that we can. And that's not what's happening. 0:06:24.560 --> 0:06:26.799 Same holds true with the sheriff. 0:06:28.160 --> 0:06:30.840 You know, there was a lot of success and the 0:06:30.839 --> 0:06:34.720 Sheriff's department, they came down where the courthouse is, they 0:06:34.800 --> 0:06:38.839 started arresting people. And this is something that goes way 0:06:38.960 --> 0:06:41.920 way back even to Mayor Giuliani in New York, where 0:06:42.520 --> 0:06:45.920 if you find any crime being committed in our more 0:06:45.960 --> 0:06:49.680 recent times, let's just say people are smoking marijuana in public. 0:06:50.200 --> 0:06:52.760 Marijuana might be legal to buy it, but you can't 0:06:52.800 --> 0:06:55.480 smoke it in public, and people are smoking it everywhere. 0:06:55.520 --> 0:06:58.720 So they started arresting people around the courthouse. Same thing, 0:06:58.720 --> 0:07:00.880 if they were jaywalking, same thing, if they had a 0:07:00.880 --> 0:07:04.880 traffic violation. That if you address those things, then all 0:07:04.920 --> 0:07:07.400 of a sudden, there's a good chance you cut down 0:07:07.760 --> 0:07:13.200 on the bigger, more serious things. Again, why wouldn't city 0:07:13.280 --> 0:07:21.000 hall accept the help offered by Sheriff McGuffey. 0:07:21.800 --> 0:07:24.960 I believe it's an administrative failure. I think that we're 0:07:24.960 --> 0:07:27.520 not working together the way we should. And then I 0:07:27.520 --> 0:07:29.960 guess I think that there's a lot of politics involved 0:07:30.000 --> 0:07:33.400 in when we look at the numbers of what's happening 0:07:33.400 --> 0:07:35.440 on the streets, but then when we look at the 0:07:35.440 --> 0:07:37.920 officers that are there, we're twenty percent down. 0:07:38.040 --> 0:07:40.520 When it comes to the officers, it's. 0:07:40.320 --> 0:07:43.840 Almost like we're just hoping that winner comes so that 0:07:43.880 --> 0:07:45.840 we can just say that we got passed this year, 0:07:45.880 --> 0:07:47.640 instead of being proactive with it. 0:07:48.080 --> 0:07:50.760 I think that people aren't working together the way they should. 0:07:51.040 --> 0:07:52.720 I don't think that we're looking at this from a 0:07:52.800 --> 0:07:56.400 logistics standpoint. You know, time and time again, So we 0:07:56.480 --> 0:07:59.040 had the central Business district. What happened at Fountain Square 0:07:59.120 --> 0:08:02.280 last night was in the Central Business District. And time 0:08:02.320 --> 0:08:06.400 and time again, I'm being told by officers that the 0:08:06.520 --> 0:08:10.120 complement downtown is not happening. So you'll get told that 0:08:10.160 --> 0:08:13.320 there should be eleven officers, twelve officers in the Central 0:08:13.320 --> 0:08:17.400 Business district during third ship, there's three, there's four, and. 0:08:17.400 --> 0:08:19.680 Then even last night the. 0:08:19.720 --> 0:08:23.760 Chief said that there was two PVO officers. Those are 0:08:23.760 --> 0:08:27.240 the ones that were found square, not the actual on 0:08:27.400 --> 0:08:31.600 duty that were scheduled to the PBO office, which is 0:08:31.640 --> 0:08:33.920 basically your part time for visibility. 0:08:34.200 --> 0:08:36.720 They're not even there to deter crime. 0:08:36.800 --> 0:08:41.319 As far as enforce it. They're there just for visibility purposes. 0:08:41.760 --> 0:08:44.199 And that is what needs to change, is that instead 0:08:44.200 --> 0:08:46.640 of just being there for the optics, we need to 0:08:47.080 --> 0:08:50.160 have our officers be there to enforce and to deter 0:08:50.440 --> 0:08:54.000 the law or deter the crime, because what's happening is 0:08:54.000 --> 0:08:57.000 that there's no de escalation tactics. We just wait until 0:08:57.040 --> 0:08:59.960 it esthlates to the worst case scenario and then we respond, 0:09:00.440 --> 0:09:01.640 and that needs a change. 0:09:02.040 --> 0:09:06.360 What were your thoughts about the mayor suggesting that the 0:09:06.720 --> 0:09:11.240 city transit hub be moved back to where you know 0:09:11.440 --> 0:09:14.160 it was a long long time ago and was proposed 0:09:14.200 --> 0:09:17.040 to go back there again under the banks. Folks at 0:09:17.080 --> 0:09:19.720 Metro say, hey, look, you know people who are taking 0:09:19.760 --> 0:09:21.400 the bus into work, they want to get off the 0:09:21.400 --> 0:09:24.440 bus and walk into the central business district and get 0:09:24.520 --> 0:09:27.000 to work rather than walking all the way up the 0:09:27.080 --> 0:09:29.240 hill from down below the banks. 0:09:30.040 --> 0:09:32.360 What are your thoughts on that idea? 0:09:35.440 --> 0:09:37.840 Well, I think that you know, the biggest thaying like 0:09:38.040 --> 0:09:40.760 is last night what the mayor said as well is 0:09:40.800 --> 0:09:43.800 we need to consider policing the transit area. 0:09:43.800 --> 0:09:45.959 We need to consider policing this area. 0:09:46.080 --> 0:09:48.679 Well, that's what needs to happen anyway, when people are 0:09:48.679 --> 0:09:51.160 getting off the bus, they need to feel safe. 0:09:51.040 --> 0:09:52.679 Wherever the transit area is. 0:09:53.040 --> 0:09:55.040 I think this is a problem that happens is that 0:09:55.080 --> 0:09:56.280 with our city we're trying. 0:09:56.120 --> 0:09:57.920 To put band aids on situations. 0:09:58.000 --> 0:10:02.040 Instead of upping patrols on a certain street, We're going 0:10:02.120 --> 0:10:05.440 to be putting speed bumps there, right, instead of actually 0:10:05.480 --> 0:10:08.040 having the officers do their job at the transit center. 0:10:08.080 --> 0:10:10.880 Oh well, we need to take the transit center somewhere else, 0:10:10.960 --> 0:10:13.440 or we need to reevaluate this. No, it's just it's 0:10:13.520 --> 0:10:17.800 just simple policing. Comm That's what That's what's changed changes 0:10:17.880 --> 0:10:20.760 city Hall is that instead of just looking at from 0:10:20.800 --> 0:10:24.679 a simple policing standpoint, we've converted it into all these 0:10:24.920 --> 0:10:29.680 social programs, into these community outreaches, into all these things 0:10:29.679 --> 0:10:32.040 that have nothing to do with the strong police force. 0:10:32.320 --> 0:10:34.640 And then we have to rethink where we put the 0:10:34.679 --> 0:10:38.080 speed humps or where we put the transit and that 0:10:38.080 --> 0:10:40.640 that is not the way that you solve crime. That's 0:10:40.640 --> 0:10:42.840 not the way that you deter crime, that's not the 0:10:42.840 --> 0:10:44.520 way that you make your people feel safe. 0:10:44.679 --> 0:10:47.439 My final question I want to ask you, Look, every Republican, 0:10:47.559 --> 0:10:50.840 even independent for that matter, has an uphill climb in 0:10:50.960 --> 0:10:53.880 major cities across America, and Cincinnati is no different. We've 0:10:53.920 --> 0:11:00.800 been dominated by Democrat run people and policies for decades. 0:11:00.920 --> 0:11:01.199 Now. 0:11:01.760 --> 0:11:06.120 What makes Corey Bowman's run different this go round? 0:11:08.400 --> 0:11:10.959 The biggest thing is that I'm not running this race 0:11:11.120 --> 0:11:13.960 to get to national politics. I'm not running this race 0:11:14.040 --> 0:11:17.400 to copy and paste national politics to city hall. I'm 0:11:17.440 --> 0:11:20.520 here to look at city solutions and I don't think 0:11:20.520 --> 0:11:21.920 that that's a red or blue issue. 0:11:21.960 --> 0:11:22.320 Tom. 0:11:22.600 --> 0:11:25.800 You know, there was a resolution months back for a 0:11:25.880 --> 0:11:29.319 ceasefire in Israel, and I think the pop people downtown, 0:11:29.400 --> 0:11:32.720 are thinking we need a ceasefire downtown. What does it 0:11:32.880 --> 0:11:35.839 matter that we're making resolutions for foreign countries. 0:11:35.480 --> 0:11:38.040 When we can't even take care of our own streets. 0:11:38.400 --> 0:11:40.360 That's what we need to bring back to city Hall. 0:11:40.480 --> 0:11:43.800 That's what we're running this long. I've spoken with many Democrats, 0:11:44.000 --> 0:11:47.480 many Republicans, many independents, and when it comes to crime, 0:11:47.640 --> 0:11:50.920 when it comes to infrastructure, when it comes to spending 0:11:50.920 --> 0:11:53.800 our money properly with the city budget, making sure that 0:11:53.840 --> 0:11:56.800 it's going towards the right things, and it's prioritized that 0:11:56.920 --> 0:11:59.400 we all agree that these are not right or left issues, 0:11:59.440 --> 0:12:03.000 These are or wrong issues, and that's what the sanity 0:12:03.120 --> 0:12:04.800 needs to be restored to City Hall. 0:12:05.480 --> 0:12:06.040 Corey Bowman. 0:12:06.080 --> 0:12:08.160 I can't thank you enough for your time this morning, sir, 0:12:08.280 --> 0:12:09.679 and I hope you have a great rest of your 0:12:09.720 --> 0:12:12.480 day and good luck. We're counting down the days here, 0:12:12.600 --> 0:12:13.600 not too far away. 0:12:15.000 --> 0:12:18.720 Yeah, Tom, I want to emphasize this election is November fourth, 0:12:18.760 --> 0:12:22.040 but early voting is happening now and so if anybody 0:12:22.080 --> 0:12:24.640 can get out to the Hamilton County Voard of Elections, 0:12:24.679 --> 0:12:27.640 get out and vote. Vote, Vote Corey Bowman for mayor. 0:12:28.000 --> 0:12:30.800 Research the best candidates for city Council and we can 0:12:30.880 --> 0:12:33.160 change leadership and get us back on the right track. 0:12:33.280 --> 0:12:35.400 Yeah, I think Corey, thank you so much for your time. 0:12:35.440 --> 0:12:38.600 I think people have to ask themselves one very simple question. 0:12:39.160 --> 0:12:42.480 Do you feel good about the way the city's being run? 0:12:44.000 --> 0:12:47.800 Not only the mayor but city council. Do you feel 0:12:47.840 --> 0:12:51.000 good about it? If you do well, then vote the 0:12:51.000 --> 0:12:55.880 same people back in. If you're saying huh, not really, well, 0:12:56.679 --> 0:13:00.079 it's your chance to change it and only you. 0:13:03.320 --> 0:13:03.760 Alrighty. 0:13:03.800 --> 0:13:06.439 We do it every Tuesday, we get together with the 0:13:06.600 --> 0:13:12.040 United States Olympian and the star of television, radio, print 0:13:12.200 --> 0:13:14.680 business speaking, Julius Fording. 0:13:14.960 --> 0:13:16.760 All Right, good morning, how are you. 0:13:17.840 --> 0:13:20.880 I'm great, Tom. It's my best conversation. 0:13:20.360 --> 0:13:20.840 Of the week. 0:13:21.240 --> 0:13:23.679 Me too. All right, I got a great story for you. 0:13:23.679 --> 0:13:25.960 You know, you talk all the time about how you 0:13:26.000 --> 0:13:29.040 want to help people write and help change their lives 0:13:29.160 --> 0:13:31.840 through these different things we talk about. And I mentioned 0:13:31.840 --> 0:13:34.760 this is always the highest rated segment we have on 0:13:34.840 --> 0:13:36.800 the morning show every week, so a lot of people 0:13:36.800 --> 0:13:39.600 out there listening. So I'm in UDF yesterday I come 0:13:39.679 --> 0:13:42.120 walking out. Fella comes walking over to me. I don't 0:13:42.160 --> 0:13:45.080 recognize it, he says, Hey, Tom, we've met before. He's 0:13:45.240 --> 0:13:48.520 roughly my age, probably, you know, late fifties, early sixties whatever. 0:13:50.120 --> 0:13:51.800 He says, I got to tell you a story if 0:13:51.840 --> 0:13:54.120 you got him in, And I said please. He said, 0:13:54.280 --> 0:13:58.959 about seven months ago, when you first started the show 0:13:59.000 --> 0:13:59.840 back in March. 0:14:00.320 --> 0:14:02.040 He said, I was listening one day. 0:14:02.080 --> 0:14:05.480 He owns a landscaping business and does a lot of 0:14:05.520 --> 0:14:10.640 work all over town. And he says, I'm listening and 0:14:10.720 --> 0:14:13.960 you have Julie on, and she starts talking about, you know, 0:14:14.000 --> 0:14:16.320 a little bit of exercise. You can start with a 0:14:16.360 --> 0:14:19.880 little bit talking about, you know, bad habits at each 0:14:19.920 --> 0:14:21.680 and every one of his hoss, so on and so forth. 0:14:21.720 --> 0:14:25.240 He said, Look, he said, I've been lucky. I've made 0:14:25.240 --> 0:14:26.520 a good living for myself. 0:14:26.800 --> 0:14:27.240 He said. 0:14:27.440 --> 0:14:30.920 I went out and started skiing all winter long out 0:14:30.920 --> 0:14:35.120 in Colorado, he said, And he said, I get done 0:14:35.240 --> 0:14:37.600 after only about two or three hours, and he said, 0:14:37.760 --> 0:14:38.840 I was just worn out. 0:14:39.280 --> 0:14:43.080 I felt awful. He said. I had been, you know, drinking. 0:14:42.720 --> 0:14:44.560 A lot of beer every night while I'm out on 0:14:44.600 --> 0:14:46.800 the ski slopes and during the day and so on 0:14:46.880 --> 0:14:49.800 and so forth. So he comes back home and he 0:14:49.800 --> 0:14:54.840 hears you on the radio. Well, he told himself, okay, 0:14:55.240 --> 0:14:59.520 I'm going to not have a beer today and I'm 0:14:59.520 --> 0:15:04.480 going to walking today. That was seven and a half 0:15:04.520 --> 0:15:08.560 months ago. He's not had a drop of liquor and 0:15:08.600 --> 0:15:14.320 he has lost fifty two pounds. And he told me 0:15:15.120 --> 0:15:19.880 that that was directly because of listening to you. 0:15:22.960 --> 0:15:26.840 Oh my gosh, she's kind of comments make my heart 0:15:27.080 --> 0:15:30.680 so happy. Those are the gifts that I get back 0:15:30.760 --> 0:15:35.160 from this, just listening to people getting better. I mean, 0:15:35.560 --> 0:15:38.680 it really does make your heart happy when when you 0:15:38.760 --> 0:15:44.440 watch people get better with enthusiasm. They work so hard, 0:15:44.960 --> 0:15:47.680 they laugh at themselves, but they keep on keeping on. 0:15:48.280 --> 0:15:50.760 Yeah, and he said, he said, look, he said, when 0:15:50.760 --> 0:15:53.200 I first started walking, he said, you know, I was 0:15:53.280 --> 0:15:56.480 landscaping all day so I could get outside. But he said, man, 0:15:56.600 --> 0:16:00.600 I'm way overweight. And he said he just decided between 0:16:01.080 --> 0:16:07.040 drink and beer and just taking fifteen minutes, then twenty, 0:16:07.720 --> 0:16:11.360 then thirty, and now walking up to an hour. Day said, now, look, 0:16:11.400 --> 0:16:13.520 you know my schedule allows me to walk that long. 0:16:13.560 --> 0:16:15.520 I know a lot of people can't. He said, but 0:16:15.640 --> 0:16:18.000 share the story if you don't mind, with Julie, and 0:16:18.080 --> 0:16:20.720 share it with your listeners. I promised him that I would, 0:16:21.120 --> 0:16:27.240 and he said he just can't believe how good he feels. 0:16:27.320 --> 0:16:29.480 He just gave a gift to all of us. And 0:16:29.520 --> 0:16:33.479 I think the operative word there, Tom is he decided. 0:16:34.240 --> 0:16:37.520 We didn't decide for him. He made the decision of 0:16:37.640 --> 0:16:40.080 who he wants to be by the actions he took. 0:16:40.240 --> 0:16:43.840 And he wanted to be fit and reduce aging and 0:16:43.920 --> 0:16:48.000 feel better and kind of have fun at the same time, 0:16:48.760 --> 0:16:51.640 and enough fun to stop you at UDF in a 0:16:51.680 --> 0:16:55.800 parking lot and have a conversation. Yes, you know, that's 0:16:55.880 --> 0:16:59.080 the kind of stuff that just is the gift back 0:16:59.200 --> 0:17:03.680 to me and to all of us. When other people's 0:17:03.760 --> 0:17:07.919 stories inspire us to do something, it's not you know, 0:17:08.040 --> 0:17:12.679 reading something, it's not. It's just that when someone else 0:17:13.600 --> 0:17:17.320 inspires you. I think I teach a lot of big classes. 0:17:17.359 --> 0:17:19.880 I was teaching a yoga class at the Art Museum 0:17:20.720 --> 0:17:23.560 and there were twenty five people in there in after class, 0:17:23.560 --> 0:17:25.520 and there was a little line to talk to me 0:17:25.600 --> 0:17:30.000 about something, and this man comes up, same story, comes 0:17:30.080 --> 0:17:31.720 up to me and waiting for him to ask me 0:17:31.800 --> 0:17:34.880 how to do a better warrior too, or do something, 0:17:34.960 --> 0:17:37.919 and he goes, I just want to tell you. My 0:17:38.040 --> 0:17:41.000 name's Mark. And I listened to you and Tom every Tuesday, 0:17:41.480 --> 0:17:43.520 And I don't know what I like better just the 0:17:43.640 --> 0:17:47.879 banter about health, or that you've really made me hone 0:17:47.920 --> 0:17:51.320 in on just the small things I could do each 0:17:51.440 --> 0:17:54.920 day just to become a little better. And isn't that 0:17:55.200 --> 0:17:58.639 what we all want? To be a little better? Just 0:17:58.920 --> 0:18:02.399 a little better, not just a little miracle, not the 0:18:02.400 --> 0:18:05.000 big miracle, just a little miracle. 0:18:05.119 --> 0:18:07.760 Okay, Now, last week we started getting into some of 0:18:07.760 --> 0:18:10.720 the quote unquote sort of health fads that are out there. 0:18:10.880 --> 0:18:14.440 Last week we talked specifically about cold plunges, the pros 0:18:14.480 --> 0:18:17.080 and cons another one, and I'm going to save two 0:18:17.200 --> 0:18:19.840 or three of these looking ahead to the coming weeks, 0:18:19.880 --> 0:18:22.160 because I think these are very interesting to break down. 0:18:22.440 --> 0:18:26.400 I want to start with this intermittent fasting for those 0:18:26.440 --> 0:18:29.800 that don't know what it is, Julie, what is it? 0:18:31.160 --> 0:18:34.680 It's pretty much time based eating. So what people do. 0:18:35.359 --> 0:18:38.639 There's a lot of ways to do this. Some people 0:18:38.720 --> 0:18:41.359 don't eat for twenty four hours. So what they'll do 0:18:41.400 --> 0:18:44.399 they'll finish their last meal at eight pm and not 0:18:44.760 --> 0:18:48.560 eat again until lunchtime the following day. That's the most 0:18:48.600 --> 0:18:52.720 common one. They'll skip breakfast, they'll eat from the window, 0:18:52.800 --> 0:18:57.720 an eight hour window twelve to eight. Now, my mom's friend, 0:18:57.920 --> 0:19:02.520 this guy, he does not every Tuesday Monday. He doesn't 0:19:02.600 --> 0:19:07.439 eat all day, just drinks water, tea, coffee, and he 0:19:07.520 --> 0:19:10.320 won't eat all day until dinner. And he does that 0:19:10.359 --> 0:19:14.359 every Monday. Other people will just pick like an eight 0:19:14.440 --> 0:19:18.880 hour window. So there's several ways to do it, and 0:19:18.960 --> 0:19:21.600 of course there's many pros to it. Like we talk 0:19:21.640 --> 0:19:26.200 about everything, one of the biggest upsides it's no calorie county. 0:19:26.200 --> 0:19:29.480 You don't have to pack lunch. It saves money. You 0:19:29.520 --> 0:19:31.360 don't I mean, you don't have to think about your 0:19:31.400 --> 0:19:34.199 next meal. I mean think about the time we spend 0:19:34.320 --> 0:19:38.000 just eating and what we could do instead in the 0:19:38.080 --> 0:19:41.160 planning and the cooking and the shopping. So it cuts 0:19:41.359 --> 0:19:45.440 gives time back in your life. They also science says 0:19:45.480 --> 0:19:48.320 your insulin levels drop, which you know can help you 0:19:48.400 --> 0:19:53.240 burn body that more efficiently. And people often say they 0:19:53.359 --> 0:19:58.119 think more clearly, they sleep better, and here's something important. 0:19:58.160 --> 0:20:01.879 They feel more in control of their habits. So that's 0:20:01.920 --> 0:20:06.040 about discipline that they know they can change a habit. 0:20:06.200 --> 0:20:09.879 And I think even that is really powerful, to know 0:20:10.080 --> 0:20:12.760 you can change a habit, you can get rid of 0:20:13.480 --> 0:20:17.119 sort of some obsession with food or a certain food 0:20:17.440 --> 0:20:20.640 and I love that one, but remember it's not magic. 0:20:21.200 --> 0:20:24.840 Okay, Well, what are the cons of this intermittent fasting, 0:20:24.840 --> 0:20:27.159 because it seems like this talk and chatter about this 0:20:27.440 --> 0:20:28.320 is everywhere. 0:20:29.280 --> 0:20:32.080 It is. Well, let's be honest. Have you ever been 0:20:32.200 --> 0:20:38.960 hungry that's when you're so hungry? Or I when I 0:20:39.000 --> 0:20:43.359 get really hungry, I'm downright mean, I'm just mean, and 0:20:43.480 --> 0:20:46.399 so a lot of that. You just have to be 0:20:46.520 --> 0:20:52.320 sure that this is not affecting your relationships and other things. 0:20:52.720 --> 0:20:55.720