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Speaker 1: Light A ten.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to the morning show. You're on seven hundred wl W.

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Speaker 2: Hope your days off to a great start, and we

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Speaker 2: say good morning to the Republican nominee running for mayor

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Speaker 2: of Cincinnati kind enough to join us on very short notice.

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Speaker 2: I might add so Corey Bowman, thank you, Good morning

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Speaker 2: to you, sir. Hope Paul's well on this Tuesday.

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Speaker 3: Hey, good morning Tom. Thank you to you and your

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Speaker 3: listeners for having me.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely.

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Speaker 2: Hey, I want to get right into it because again,

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Speaker 2: the last twenty four forty eight hours, we've seen four

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Speaker 2: more shootings in Cincinnati.

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Speaker 1: You came out with.

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Speaker 2: Tweet I guess on x now wondering what in the

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Speaker 2: world is going on and why this stuff just continues

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Speaker 2: to happen over and over and over and seemingly over again.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: Well, I mean, I think that people in Cincinnati are

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Speaker 5: tired of hearing these are ports over and over again

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Speaker 5: of violence.

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Speaker 3: On the streets.

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Speaker 5: I think what they're more tired of is hearing from

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Speaker 5: leadership that all it's unacceptable.

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Speaker 3: We've got to make changes.

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Speaker 5: So this is what we've elected these officials to do,

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Speaker 5: is to manage our city, and it's not being done

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Speaker 5: right now.

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Speaker 3: You know, like you said, there's four people's.

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Speaker 5: Shop last night, one was a homicide in Westwood, and

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Speaker 5: this is something that happened. Actually just last week there

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Speaker 5: was another shooting in Fountain Square. And then over the

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Speaker 5: weekend too, we got to see that there's actually six

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Speaker 5: shootings that happened over the weekend if you include Monday.

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Speaker 5: So this is spiraling out of control. This is coming

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Speaker 5: from somebody that's downtown. This isn't a perception issue. This

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Speaker 5: is a reality issue, and something.

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Speaker 3: Needs to be done about it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, you live downtown, so you know exactly

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Speaker 2: what it's like. And you know they tell us about

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Speaker 2: you know, crime is down all over the city. But

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Speaker 2: I've continued to maintain that when they tell us that

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Speaker 2: they are talking, which includes neighborhoods like Mount Lookout in

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Speaker 2: Hyde Park in place is like that. Whereas when you

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Speaker 2: particular even Lower Price Hill is where we are seeing

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Speaker 2: more and more and more and more violence. Homicides in

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Speaker 2: the last twenty eight days compared to a year ago,

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Speaker 2: up two hundred and fifty percent. Tell me, based on

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Speaker 2: what you know that it's being done. Now, what would you,

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Speaker 2: Corey Bowman, do differently to address crime in the City

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Speaker 2: of Cincinnati.

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Speaker 5: Well, I think you have to look at it from

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Speaker 5: a short term and a long term perspective. You know,

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Speaker 5: so long term, what you're seeing now on our streets

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Speaker 5: is the result of long term and competency.

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Speaker 3: You know, we.

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Speaker 5: Didn't start this administration off four years ago with hiring

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Speaker 5: police officers. They actually campaigned on lowering the police force.

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Speaker 5: But now just an election year, with all the results

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Speaker 5: of the rise and violent crime downtown, now they're considering

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Speaker 5: putting more money in the department. They're considering the lateral hires,

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Speaker 5: they're considering upping the academy when it comes to the

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Speaker 5: classes and recruiting, and that's all.

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Speaker 3: Stuff that needs to be done, but it need to

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Speaker 3: be done four years ago.

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Speaker 5: Right now, we're about two hundred officers below the compliment.

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Speaker 5: And by the way, those numbers of what is suggested

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Speaker 5: that we need in the city.

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Speaker 3: Those numbers haven't been looked at in over a.

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Speaker 5: Decade, and so those numbers need to be reevaluated. We

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Speaker 5: need to know how many officers do we need to

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Speaker 3: To recruit, recruit, recruit.

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Speaker 5: We need to hire higher hire, and we need to

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Speaker 5: be able to have a police force that matches that compliment.

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Speaker 5: And I will say this, I talked with firefighters. Their

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Speaker 3: Down as well.

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Speaker 5: So we need to focus on hiring and equipping firefighters

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Speaker 5: as well, because these are the brave individuals that go

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Speaker 3: That's not what's happening as far as the short term goes.

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Speaker 5: A lot of times people are saying that, oh, well,

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Speaker 3: We don't necessarily have violent riots that are happening downtown.

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Speaker 5: But I think that right now, when I talk to

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Speaker 5: asking for help from outside. They're just asking to be

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Speaker 5: done from city Hall. There's iniches or there's commands from

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Speaker 5: whether it be with the non pursuit laws or whether

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Speaker 5: it be with not citing people for certain crimes the

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Speaker 3: That needs to change, number one.

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Speaker 5: And then finally I would accept the full package from

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Speaker 5: the state with Governor Dwine to make sure that we're

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Speaker 5: saving as many lives as possible.

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Speaker 2: Well, that's where I was going. I want to ask

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Speaker 2: you about two different individuals. Let's start with the governor.

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Speaker 2: And there have been results, very good results. It took

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Speaker 2: place in Columbus, took place in Cleveland, took place in Dayton,

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Speaker 2: where the governor offered local police some additional help and

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Speaker 2: they accepted it wholeheartedly. For whatever reason, here in Cincinnati,

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Speaker 2: we're only accepting it two days a week.

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Speaker 1: Why is that? Or two days a month? Why is that?

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Speaker 4: Well?

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Speaker 5: I spoke with a local SWAT officer, you know, because

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Speaker 5: we have our local Cincinnati squad, then you have federal

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Speaker 5: and now I was asking him, you know, how are

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Speaker 5: things going from a funding aspect from you guys, and

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Speaker 5: they said, well, we can't really get you know, the

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Speaker 5: proper funding for gear.

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Speaker 3: That we need. We can't even get night vision right now.

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Speaker 5: And then I asked them, you know, I just said,

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Speaker 5: it just so happened that a very strong political figure

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Speaker 5: lives in the Cincinnati area. I said, so, why wouldn't

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Speaker 5: we use that to our advantage of trying to get

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Speaker 5: as many resources to the police department as possible when

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Speaker 5: it comes to our city.

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Speaker 3: And this is what the SWAT officer told me.

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Speaker 5: He said that City Hall is an island unto themselves.

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Speaker 3: They refuse to work with any other.

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Speaker 5: Whether it be the state, whether it be the federal

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Speaker 3: With the politics of it all. But this is a

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Speaker 5: To save lives and we need to go across the aisle,

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Speaker 5: most that we can. And that's not what's happening.

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Speaker 1: Same holds true with the sheriff.

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Speaker 2: You know, there was a lot of success and the

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Speaker 2: Sheriff's department, they came down where the courthouse is, they

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Speaker 2: way back even to Mayor Giuliani in New York, where

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Speaker 2: if you find any crime being committed in our more

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Speaker 2: recent times, let's just say people are smoking marijuana in public.

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Speaker 2: Marijuana might be legal to buy it, but you can't

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Speaker 2: So they started arresting people around the courthouse. Same thing,

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Speaker 2: if they were jaywalking, same thing, if they had a

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Speaker 2: of a sudden, there's a good chance you cut down

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Speaker 2: on the bigger, more serious things. Again, why wouldn't city

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Speaker 2: hall accept the help offered by Sheriff McGuffey.

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Speaker 5: I believe it's an administrative failure. I think that we're

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Speaker 5: not working together the way we should. And then I

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Speaker 5: guess I think that there's a lot of politics involved

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Speaker 5: in when we look at the numbers of what's happening

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Speaker 3: When it comes to the officers, it's.

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Speaker 5: Almost like we're just hoping that winner comes so that

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Speaker 5: we can just say that we got passed this year,

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Speaker 5: instead of being proactive with it.

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Speaker 3: I think that people aren't working together the way they should.

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Speaker 5: I don't think that we're looking at this from a

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Speaker 5: logistics standpoint. You know, time and time again, So we

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Speaker 5: had the central Business district. What happened at Fountain Square

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Speaker 5: last night was in the Central Business District. And time

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Speaker 5: there should be eleven officers, twelve officers in the Central

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Speaker 5: Business district during third ship, there's three, there's four, and.

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Speaker 3: Then even last night the.

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Speaker 5: Chief said that there was two PVO officers. Those are

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Speaker 3: They're not even there to deter crime.

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Speaker 5: As far as enforce it. They're there just for visibility purposes.

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Speaker 5: And that is what needs to change, is that instead

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Speaker 5: have our officers be there to enforce and to deter

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Speaker 5: that there's no de escalation tactics. We just wait until

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Speaker 5: and that needs a change.

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Speaker 2: What were your thoughts about the mayor suggesting that the

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Speaker 2: city transit hub be moved back to where you know

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Speaker 2: it was a long long time ago and was proposed

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Speaker 2: to go back there again under the banks. Folks at

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Speaker 2: Metro say, hey, look, you know people who are taking

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Speaker 1: What are your thoughts on that idea?

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Speaker 5: Well, I think that you know, the biggest thaying like

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Speaker 5: is last night what the mayor said as well is

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Speaker 5: we need to consider policing the transit area.

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Speaker 3: We need to consider policing this area.

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Speaker 5: Well, that's what needs to happen anyway, when people are

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Speaker 5: getting off the bus, they need to feel safe.

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Speaker 3: Wherever the transit area is.

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Speaker 5: I think this is a problem that happens is that

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Speaker 5: with our city we're trying.

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Speaker 3: To put band aids on situations.

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Speaker 5: Instead of upping patrols on a certain street, We're going

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Speaker 5: to be putting speed bumps there, right, instead of actually

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Speaker 5: having the officers do their job at the transit center.

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Speaker 5: Oh well, we need to take the transit center somewhere else,

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Speaker 5: or we need to reevaluate this. No, it's just it's

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Speaker 5: just simple policing. Comm That's what That's what's changed changes

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Speaker 5: city Hall is that instead of just looking at from

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Speaker 5: a simple policing standpoint, we've converted it into all these

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Speaker 5: social programs, into these community outreaches, into all these things

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Speaker 5: that have nothing to do with the strong police force.

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Speaker 5: And then we have to rethink where we put the

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Speaker 5: speed humps or where we put the transit and that

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Speaker 5: that is not the way that you solve crime. That's

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Speaker 5: not the way that you deter crime, that's not the

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Speaker 5: way that you make your people feel safe.

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Speaker 2: My final question I want to ask you, Look, every Republican,

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Speaker 2: even independent for that matter, has an uphill climb in

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Speaker 1: What makes Corey Bowman's run different this go round?

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Speaker 5: The biggest thing is that I'm not running this race

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Speaker 3: Tom.

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Speaker 5: You know, there was a resolution months back for a

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Speaker 3: When we can't even take care of our own streets.

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Speaker 5: That's what we need to bring back to city Hall.

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Speaker 5: That's what we're running this long. I've spoken with many Democrats,

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Speaker 1: Corey Bowman.

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Speaker 2: I can't thank you enough for your time this morning, sir,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think Corey, thank you so much for your time.

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Speaker 1: Alrighty.

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Speaker 4: I'm great, Tom. It's my best conversation.

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Speaker 3: Of the week.

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Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, she's kind of comments make my heart

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Speaker 4: I think the operative word there, Tom is he decided.

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Speaker 4: nothing approach, which it might be easier for some people.

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Speaker 4: All or nothing that means no decision making. It's not like,

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Speaker 4: well I have a carrot, Well maybe i'll two carrots

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Speaker 4: and all three carrots, Well, where are the carrots? Well

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Speaker 4: did I buy the carrots?

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Speaker 5: No?

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Speaker 4: I didn't, So I'm going to eat a donut. So

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Speaker 4: that's the other thing. And honestly, we can go a

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Speaker 4: long time without eating. It does teach you that if

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Speaker 4: you miss the meal, you're going to be okay. So

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Speaker 4: it does teach you that. It might teach us all

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Speaker 4: that perhaps we do overeat, that we don't need as much.

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Speaker 4: Another thing too, and you might not be hungry, Tom,

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Speaker 4: You just might be thirsty. Maybe you know you need

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Speaker 4: some water, maybe you're dehydrated, or maybe you need a nap.

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Speaker 4: Do I say that every week? I think I say

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Speaker 4: that every week? I don't. I really do think maps

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Speaker 4: solve a lot of problems. If you're napping, you're.

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Speaker 1: Not eating, right, that's exactly.

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Speaker 2: Nor are you exercising though, by the way, but you

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Speaker 2: are exercising your mind.

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Speaker 1: Okay.

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Speaker 2: So the next couple of weeks, so we're going to

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Speaker 2: get into some other areas that have become you know,

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Speaker 2: sort of all the rage this you know, obsession with protein,

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Speaker 2: this obsession with water, things like that. So we will

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Speaker 2: get into those. So, Jules, I hope you have a

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Speaker 2: great rest of your day. You're the best.

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Speaker 4: And a special thank you to the comment at UDF.

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Speaker 4: That's really what's a gift to all of us, not

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Speaker 4: just me.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely okay,