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Speaker 2: Like the era is over? The era is over. It's like,

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Speaker 2: But you know, for the last few years the Rads

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Speaker 2: In fifteen minutes, our guy, Jeff Carr the Locked On

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Speaker 2: Reds podcast. We're gonna talk Gino, We're gonna talk about

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Speaker 2: an off season. You know, back when last year ended

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Speaker 2: great detail about the offseason, I think we all agreed

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Speaker 2: there were two things that had to happen. One is

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Speaker 2: they've got to find some relief pitching. They've got to

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Speaker 2: go get some established big league relievers who represent upgrades

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Speaker 2: from what the Reds had this past season, give Terry

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Speaker 2: francona more late game options, and help fill out specific roles.

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Speaker 2: I think they've done that. Whatever skepticism you may have

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Speaker 2: about Nick Crawl about ownership about the team in twenty

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Speaker 2: twenty six, they said, Nick Krawl said, we're going to

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Speaker 2: prioritize and I'm paraphrasing him here, We're going to prioritize

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Speaker 3: They did. They did that. That is a thing that happened.

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Speaker 2: And so no matter how the rest of the offseason unfolded,

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Speaker 2: it was inarguable the Reds have addressed their bullpen, and

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Speaker 2: I think it's fair to say they they've made the

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Speaker 2: to two. That sort of thing. The Reds had no

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Speaker 2: And despite what others may tell you, yes, home runs

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Speaker 4: I'm at Ezelak with the traffic this report.

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Speaker 2: Jeff Carr is gonna join us in just a second.

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Speaker 2: Locked on Reds Podcast, Reds did something yesterday, did something?

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Speaker 2: Signed a guy who had forty nine bombs and the

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Speaker 2: All that stuff is great. All that stuff is nice.

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Speaker 2: E u haanos Horez when he was here became a

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Speaker 2: And the other stuff is great. The other stuff can

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Speaker 2: all of that is good. What matters more than anything

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Speaker 2: else is the home run potential. Jeff is with us

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Speaker 2: locked on Red's podcast and did like an emergency episode

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Speaker 2: after yesterday's news, So I know you've been busy, man,

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Speaker 2: It's good to have you. What's going on?

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Speaker 5: Man? I am so excited Mo, because this was I

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Speaker 5: didn't expect this. I thought he was going to go

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Speaker 3: So this is much better than what I hadn't envisioned

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Speaker 2: If I would have asked you, what how do you

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Speaker 3: What would you have said?

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Speaker 5: Because the bullpen's awesome, but they missed out on the

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Speaker 2: Now, what's the grade Threads offseason?

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Speaker 5: Give him a bee? Because I think that they addressed

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Speaker 5: right now. Yes, but it's not as if they went

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Speaker 2: Does this is this is my hope. My hope is

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Speaker 2: Can I say that this signifies that they're going to

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Speaker 5: Yes, because they signed the guy that that is all

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Speaker 5: And that is exactly his role as currently constructed, because

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Speaker 5: There was no regular player in the Reds lineup last

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Speaker 2: Some will point out, and perhaps accurately so that, yes,

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Speaker 2: Gino hits a bunch of home runs, he also strikes

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Speaker 5: That, That's exactly what they would have added. How they

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Speaker 5: We're swinging this percentage from last season of thirty three percent,

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Speaker 5: In the free agent market. They don't think so, not

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Speaker 5: If they could upgrade it, that would be good, But

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Speaker 5: So I don't foresee any other move that really moves

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Speaker 5: that we're going to be doing another emergency podcast.

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Speaker 2: For Jeff Carr locked on Red's podcast Emergency Podcast. Go

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Speaker 2: watch or to listen to it. Did it last night.

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Speaker 2: I think here's what I like most about the offseason.

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Speaker 2: And I do wish the outfield was better, I will

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Speaker 2: admit that. But they have addressed their biggest issue, and

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Speaker 3: Reat Louder still a Red.

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Speaker 2: They did what I think a lot of folks did

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Speaker 3: They have made the team better.

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Speaker 2: And we could debate how much better they are going

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Speaker 3: Cut into their biggest strength. That is the biggest win.

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Speaker 5: Of all, because that's what we heard at the beginning

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Speaker 6: They have to.

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Speaker 5: There's no two bones about it. And yet they didn't.

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Speaker 5: And they said the thing and at least in Charlie

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Speaker 2: You know what, I think I like beyond that more

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Speaker 2: up for Luise Robert. I was out on that from

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Speaker 2: That's obviously been an issue in Chicago. But I remember

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Speaker 5: Do you agree? In fact, the moment that the news

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Speaker 5: Haano Suarez is better than Luise Robert. So he even

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Speaker 5: You absolutely have no doubt about that with heu Haaneo

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Speaker 3: You mentioned the left field battle.

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Speaker 2: Beyond that, what is your biggest question about this team

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Speaker 5: Who is Matt McClain. Is Matt McClain twenty twenty three,

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Speaker 2: I like the fact that Tito acknowledged that Sal Stewart

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Speaker 2: Gino did it. Uh, if I can, in the course

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Speaker 2: I've gone from a team that had no power threat

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Speaker 5: That is just causing damage left and right. I felt

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Speaker 5: we're expecting from him, because he was one of the

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Speaker 5: very few guys in all of minor league baseball the

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Speaker 5: last couple of years to average really high quality of

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Speaker 5: contact and really low strikeout rates to be called up

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Speaker 5: to the major leagues. I think that we'll see a

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Speaker 5: lot more from sal I think he's going to be

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Speaker 5: on this opening day roster. I appreciate it. Like you said,

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Speaker 5: they're not handing it to him, but I think it's

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Speaker 5: going to be clear that he earns it, especially given

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Speaker 5: the alternatives. I mean, are we really thinking that Cees

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Speaker 5: is going to take his seat back on this bench?

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Speaker 6: I doubt that.

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Speaker 5: I think that south Stewart's going to win this thing

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Speaker 5: clear and a far and away very quickly into spring trade.

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Speaker 2: Stringing hits together as inefficient. Three hits for one run

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Speaker 2: doesn't work. One hit for one run works, and so

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Speaker 2: I like home runs awesome stuff as always, Man, thanks so.

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Speaker 5: Much, Oh thanks for having man go d there you go.

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Speaker 2: That's our guy, Jeff Carr locked on Red's podcast emergency episode.

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Speaker 2: He recorded it like an hour after they Uhaneosuarez news

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Speaker 2: came out. Go watch it or listen to it if

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Speaker 2: Five one three, seven, four nine fifteen thirty is our

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Speaker 9: Six seconds ago, change tied more of each and a

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Speaker 9: drive to baseline. He spends he shoots, he's got it,

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Speaker 9: hey hecks at times, Expire Xavier wins It sixty eight

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Speaker 9: sixty six and bor Visionist Bob by his teammates. Now

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Speaker 9: the officials are gonna walk over and review it to

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Speaker 9: make sure he got the shot off in time.

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Speaker 3: With the game winner. By the way, it wasn't close.

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Speaker 2: Didn't need to even take a look at the monitor

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Speaker 2: to see if the shot got off on time. Xavior

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Speaker 2: The Muskies en route to Connecticut. They'll take on yukon

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Speaker 2: tonight at six on ESPN fifteen thirty Kentucky coming off

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Speaker 2: that big road win over Arkansas eighty five to seventy seven,

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Speaker 2: Take it away, with a big game. The officials had

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Speaker 2: a big game calling technical fouls as well. The NKU

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Speaker 2: Coaches Show is tonight at seven o'clock on ESPN fifteen thirty.

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Speaker 2: Darren Horns team with call it what it is. A

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Speaker 2: disastrous trip to Michigan. Back to back losses to Detroit

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Speaker 2: Mercy on Friday and then Oakland yesterday. That's four consecutive

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Speaker 2: l's for the North. The Miami RedHawks move up a

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Speaker 2: spot in the AP Top twenty five Men's College Basketball poll.

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Speaker 2: The RedHawks are now twenty third. Ron Harper was there

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Speaker 2: to get his honorary doctorate degree. Ron Harper the all

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Speaker 2: time greatest Miami basketball player ever and a five time

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Speaker 2: NBA champion and I had a chance to talk with

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Speaker 2: him on Saturday, and we'll play that conversation for you

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Speaker 2: at five thirty five. He loses. Over the weekend, the

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Speaker 2: Bearcats get smoked by Houston in a game that was

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Speaker 2: never really in doubts. I know, folks get worked up

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Speaker 2: about what Wes says in the postgame show, and he

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Speaker 2: made a reference to UC got stuck in Arizona because

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Speaker 2: of the snowstorm that blanketed much of the country and

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Speaker 2: so instead of coming back on Saturday night after last

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Speaker 2: week's game to Arizona State. They didn't get back to

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Speaker 2: Cincinnati until Monday evening, and I'm sure that was a

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Speaker 2: pain in the neck.

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Speaker 3: I get it.

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Speaker 2: They had to come back and play one game and

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Speaker 2: then go right back to Texas to play a game.

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Speaker 2: First of all, this is what life in the Big

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Speaker 2: twelve is going to be like. Secondly, I don't know

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Speaker 2: that there's anything that anybody is going to say in

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Speaker 2: a postgame interview or a postgame press conference that is

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Speaker 2: either going to make anybody feel any better about how

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Speaker 2: the season has gone and is going to at least

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Speaker 2: I can only speak for myself deflect my attention away

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Speaker 2: from well, what's to me the biggest storyline right now?

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Speaker 2: They have played on the road two of the very

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Speaker 2: best teams in college basketball here in the last week, Arizona,

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Speaker 2: who's one of two unbeaten teams along with the RedHawks,

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Speaker 2: and Houston, who is up to an eighth in the

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Speaker 2: AP Top twenty five poll. For what it's worth, both

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Speaker 2: games were pretty non competitive. Cincinnati lost by twenty two

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Speaker 2: on Saturday. There were stretches in that game where I

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Speaker 2: thought it was going to be thirty five to forty

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Speaker 2: the final margin. Cincinnati was down only six against Arizona

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Speaker 2: in that game in Tucson. They ended up losing by

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Speaker 2: twenty six. Those are the programs that if you're a

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Speaker 2: Bearcat fan, you should be using as measuring sticks as barometers.

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Speaker 2: And that's the standard that whether it's Wes Miller as

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Speaker 2: the head coach or anybody who may take over for

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Speaker 2: him at the end of the season, that's that's the

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Speaker 2: standard right there. It's the best in the Big Twelve.

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Speaker 2: Like we've we've kind of changed the conversation here over

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Speaker 2: the last couple of years where it's you know what,

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Speaker 2: just make the tournament.

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Speaker 3: And yeah, like I get it.

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Speaker 2: Before you can talk about like having a team that's

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Speaker 2: a top four seed or a top five seed, or

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Speaker 2: capable of making a deep march run or winning a

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Speaker 2: conference title, like just be team number sixty eight. Just

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Speaker 2: have your your your school's name pomp up on the

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Speaker 2: screen on Selection Sunday. I understand that, But it wasn't

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Speaker 2: that long ago that we were taugh talking about a

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Speaker 2: fan base that I am a part of that was

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Speaker 2: exasperated with having the season end during the first weekend

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Speaker 2: of the NCAA Tournament. Now, it was during the American

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00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:17,280
Speaker 2: Athletic Conference stay, but they were winning or competing for

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Speaker 2: conference championships. They were a top two seed in the

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Speaker 2: tournament in twenty eighteen, which was their second to last

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Speaker 2: most recent NCAA tournament appearance. So back then, you know,

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Speaker 2: it was kind of decided by a lot of fans,

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Speaker 2: like making the tournament every year is not good enough.

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Speaker 2: Here we are seven years later, and all we want

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Speaker 2: to do is see the team make the tournament, which,

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Speaker 2: let's be honest, is not going to happen this year.

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Speaker 2: If you're members of the Big Twelve, then you should

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Speaker 2: be compared to the teams that are at the top

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Speaker 2: of the Big Twelve. And while yes, they did beat

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Speaker 2: a very good Iowa State team and they still have

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Speaker 2: to play Kansas, Who's I think no longer right now

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Speaker 2: viewed as the current standard center in the Big Twelve,

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Speaker 2: but historically speaking, has been in a game against Texas

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Speaker 2: Tech here in a few weeks. But like it looks

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Speaker 2: and feels like Arizona and Houston are the two like

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Speaker 2: barometers in this league. Cincinnati has played him twice on

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Speaker 2: the road and got bludge in both times.

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Speaker 3: And it just feels like they're so far away from that.

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Speaker 6: And I get it.

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Speaker 2: It's dude, forget about that make the tournament first. I'm

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Speaker 2: more interested in what are they going to be back

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Speaker 2: to competing for league championships? What are they going to

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Speaker 2: be back to being talked about as a team that

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Speaker 2: can make a run in March. Well, if you were

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Speaker 2: to judge them against those two barometers in this league,

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Speaker 2: a team in Arizona that I was the best in

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Speaker 2: the country, and a team in Houston that Calvin Sampson

587
00:31:56,240 --> 00:32:02,360
Speaker 2: has been winning Big twelve titles with and advancing deep

588
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Speaker 2: into the tournament with and competing for final fours and

589
00:32:05,080 --> 00:32:09,480
Speaker 2: national championships with a long damn way, long damn way.

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Speaker 2: And so there's there's nothing in any postgame setting. There's

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Speaker 2: no news conference, there's there's nothing, nothing that is gonna

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00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:24,360
Speaker 2: make anybody feel any better about watching UC playing these

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Speaker 2: games where they have next to no chance to win.

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Speaker 2: Quarter to four are Juhaneosuarez though, is back. You know

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna make I'm gonna make it. I'm gonna I'm

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Speaker 2: gonna bet something that cannot be disproven because it's not

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Speaker 2: gonna happen. But I wish it would next on ESPN fifteen.

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Speaker 8: Seventy five at northbound at the Western Hills Viaduct to

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Speaker 4: Traffic backed up from Ezer Charles Drive.

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Speaker 8: Minute or two worth of delays right now southbound col

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Speaker 8: Ring right lane blocked from an accident at two seventy

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Speaker 10: next championship that's going to be decided.

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Speaker 2: Lots of good things about the Reds acquiring Hey o Henneosarez,

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Speaker 2: not the least of which is it's fun to say,

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Speaker 2: hey Heneosarez. But on the very very top of the

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Speaker 2: list is this one thing. And we'll get to that

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Speaker 2: coming up at four oh five. You know, we we

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Speaker 2: were kind of making fun I think it was two

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Speaker 2: weeks ago of the guy from the Regional Chamber, Brendan Cole,

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Speaker 2: who wrote the letter to the editor condemning fans at

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Speaker 2: the Xavier game a few weeks ago for booing Phil Castellini,

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Speaker 2: and you know, pointing out that the Reds mean a

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Speaker 2: lot to this region, mean a lot to this community.

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Speaker 2: The Xavier Reds partnership is one that's going to be

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Speaker 2: very beneficial. By the way, all of which is really

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Speaker 2: really true, highlighting that opening Day is something that should

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Speaker 2: bring about unity and togetherness, which it does and it will.

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Speaker 2: It does every single year. But beyond all that, what

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Speaker 2: matters most is the baseball part of it is the

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Speaker 2: winning and losing part of it is the championship part

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Speaker 2: of it is the attempt to winning a championship part

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Speaker 2: of it, and it might take on Phil when it's

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Speaker 2: come to the booing of him or fan resentment aimed

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Speaker 2: at at him has been that this guy, for fifteen

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Speaker 2: years was celebrated. I when I say this guy, I

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Speaker 2: think by extension, the entire Castellini family owned the team

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Speaker 2: for fifteen years before anybody really set a peep about him,

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Speaker 2: before they took any real heat from Reds fans, before

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Speaker 2: anybody ever would have booed ownership like fifteen years happened.

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Speaker 2: This has been a community and a fan base that

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Speaker 2: has wanted to not boo Reds ownership but celebrate it.

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Speaker 3: And so I don't know if you took.

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Speaker 2: That event at the Cintas Center, whatever it was, two

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Speaker 2: weeks ago, if it happened tonight, I would be willing

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Speaker 2: to bet the overall tone of it would have been

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Speaker 2: a little bit different. Yes, many fans may have still booed.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna bet, though, And when I say bet, there's

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Speaker 2: no way of me actually making this bet because such

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Speaker 2: a thing isn't gonna happen. So it's an imaginary scenario.

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Speaker 2: I can't get a payoff from an imaginary scenario. But

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Speaker 2: I guess that if that same event took place tonight

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Speaker 2: or tomorrow, Let's say Xavier was playing at home. Tomorrow,

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Speaker 2: they're playing Connecticut on the road and Phil Castellini is introduced,

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Speaker 2: at least some of those booze would have been cheers

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Speaker 2: because the part that people care about the most was

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00:36:17,719 --> 00:36:22,959
Speaker 2: directly addressed. The Red's fortunes for this coming season seem better.

654
00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:27,160
Speaker 2: I still would not pick them to win the division.

655
00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:31,200
Speaker 2: It gets a stretch to say that they're a bona

656
00:36:31,239 --> 00:36:36,080
Speaker 2: fide World Series championship team. But they're a better club.

657
00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:40,440
Speaker 2: They've addressed and I don't think you should get a

658
00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:43,600
Speaker 2: ton of credit for addressing the obvious, but they've addressed

659
00:36:43,640 --> 00:36:47,680
Speaker 2: an obvious weakness. They've done it by spending some money.

660
00:36:47,719 --> 00:36:52,040
Speaker 2: They've done it by not spending any player capital. That's

661
00:36:52,840 --> 00:36:55,080
Speaker 2: a pretty good baseball move. It's made the team better.

662
00:36:55,160 --> 00:36:58,600
Speaker 2: It addresses what people care about the most. It may

663
00:36:58,719 --> 00:37:01,080
Speaker 2: not address their standing in the community. It may not

664
00:37:01,200 --> 00:37:04,480
Speaker 2: address what the Reds are as a corporate citizen because

665
00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:09,680
Speaker 2: no one cares. That sounds harsh and is maybe an

666
00:37:09,719 --> 00:37:14,640
Speaker 2: over exaggeration, like you don't want the booing to continue. Cool,

667
00:37:16,040 --> 00:37:19,680
Speaker 2: show a genuine commitment to winning, and then have that

668
00:37:19,800 --> 00:37:24,839
Speaker 2: commitment pay off with, you know, actual winning, and if

669
00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:28,239
Speaker 2: that happens, those booze will turn into cheers. This is

670
00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:34,400
Speaker 2: a fan base that is dying to rapids, armed around

671
00:37:34,719 --> 00:37:39,800
Speaker 2: every facet of the organization. I would promise you this

672
00:37:40,120 --> 00:37:43,279
Speaker 2: that if the red spent the next decade rattling off

673
00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:47,880
Speaker 2: a long streak of playoff appearances, division titles, if they

674
00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:50,719
Speaker 2: go deep into the postseason on a regular basis, if

675
00:37:50,760 --> 00:37:55,680
Speaker 2: they win a World Series, every other facet of these

676
00:37:55,840 --> 00:38:00,239
Speaker 2: organizations will benefit. There will be more people engaged with

677
00:38:00,480 --> 00:38:03,600
Speaker 2: and donating to the Reds Community Fund. There will be

678
00:38:03,680 --> 00:38:08,120
Speaker 2: more people buying season tickets. Television ratings will be higher.

679
00:38:08,800 --> 00:38:13,000
Speaker 2: More folks will care about Reds initiatives. Reds Fast attendance

680
00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:16,239
Speaker 2: will go up, Reds Hall of Fame admissions will go up,

681
00:38:17,480 --> 00:38:21,239
Speaker 2: the community initiatives. Folks will wrap their arms around them.

682
00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:26,560
Speaker 2: This city is dying for the Reds to be better.

683
00:38:27,800 --> 00:38:31,560
Speaker 2: The twenty twenty three team re energized this city. It

684
00:38:31,760 --> 00:38:38,200
Speaker 2: won eighty two games dying too. So yeah, all right,

685
00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:41,520
Speaker 2: you could tell fans they should get over it. I

686
00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:46,000
Speaker 2: hear fans who yesterday were like excited that they added

687
00:38:46,520 --> 00:38:52,160
Speaker 2: one guy, one dude, a flawed player, but added one guy.

688
00:38:54,880 --> 00:38:57,319
Speaker 2: The extent to which people want to embrace this team

689
00:38:57,400 --> 00:39:00,960
Speaker 2: and the people who own it cannot be over the

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Speaker 2: best part of this move. I'll tell you what it

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Speaker 2: You know there's something you've got to remember about last

698
00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:20,640
Speaker 2: year's Red's offense.

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00:39:20,760 --> 00:39:24,120
Speaker 3: When we talk about a Eumenio Suarez and the entire.

700
00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:28,200
Speaker 2: Offseason that's coming up in about fifteen minutes. There's also

701
00:39:28,560 --> 00:39:31,440
Speaker 2: one thing the Bengals could do, just like the two

702
00:39:31,560 --> 00:39:36,120
Speaker 2: Super Bowl teams that in thirty minutes later on, Ron

703
00:39:36,200 --> 00:39:37,960
Speaker 2: Harper is going to be on the show more college

704
00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:41,520
Speaker 2: basketball as well. This is the best part of the

705
00:39:41,600 --> 00:39:46,839
Speaker 2: Auhenio Suarez thing to me. The Reds have addressed their

706
00:39:46,880 --> 00:39:47,520
Speaker 2: biggest need.

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00:39:48,280 --> 00:39:48,440
Speaker 6: Now.

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Speaker 2: I think it's completely fair to look at the team

709
00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:56,600
Speaker 2: and go, is that really gonna be the outfield? Completely fair?

710
00:39:57,239 --> 00:40:00,360
Speaker 2: Like you're hearing JJ bleday and Will Benson. I like

711
00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:03,920
Speaker 2: a lot of things about Will Benson, but this guy

712
00:40:04,040 --> 00:40:06,239
Speaker 2: hasn't been able to stick as a regular for the

713
00:40:06,480 --> 00:40:09,319
Speaker 2: entirety of his big league career. Last year there were

714
00:40:09,360 --> 00:40:11,400
Speaker 2: times where he got sent down. Last year, there was

715
00:40:11,440 --> 00:40:14,000
Speaker 2: also a week where he was named National League Player

716
00:40:14,040 --> 00:40:16,480
Speaker 2: of the Week. Like the high end and low end

717
00:40:16,480 --> 00:40:19,359
Speaker 2: of Will Benson, there's a stark difference between the two,

718
00:40:20,080 --> 00:40:21,919
Speaker 2: so you never know what you're gonna get with that guy.

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Speaker 2: JJ bledet eh like really the most offseason acquisition there

720
00:40:27,480 --> 00:40:31,600
Speaker 2: is noelve Marte Man we will see, but I think

721
00:40:31,640 --> 00:40:37,080
Speaker 2: it's inarguable they have addressed their biggest offensive weakness, which

722
00:40:37,880 --> 00:40:40,680
Speaker 2: the home runs dried up last year and there was

723
00:40:40,760 --> 00:40:45,160
Speaker 2: no real long ball threat. E Uhaneosuarez is a long

724
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Speaker 2: ball threat.

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Speaker 5: Now.

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Speaker 2: Remember, though, when last season came to an end, it

727
00:40:54,239 --> 00:40:59,200
Speaker 2: felt like, if not an inevitability, at least a distinct

728
00:40:59,400 --> 00:41:04,320
Speaker 2: possibility that if the Reds addressed their biggest weakness, it

729
00:41:04,440 --> 00:41:07,280
Speaker 2: was gonna come at the expense of their starting pitching depth.

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Speaker 2: I think the most overrated thing in this sport is

731
00:41:12,040 --> 00:41:15,920
Speaker 2: starting pitching depth. Not because you don't want it, of

732
00:41:16,080 --> 00:41:19,440
Speaker 2: course you do, but I every time I hear somebody

733
00:41:19,520 --> 00:41:23,200
Speaker 2: talking about the starting pitching depth, they immediately start talking

734
00:41:23,239 --> 00:41:28,399
Speaker 2: about trading away one of the starting pitchers. And like, yes,

735
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Speaker 2: when you're gonna trade for an established player, you're gonna

736
00:41:31,960 --> 00:41:35,040
Speaker 2: look at a place where you're well stocked. You're gonna

737
00:41:35,080 --> 00:41:37,160
Speaker 2: look at a place where you've got a lot of options,

738
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Speaker 2: where you have depth, where you have one might say

739
00:41:39,480 --> 00:41:43,200
Speaker 2: even a surplus. But it's interesting for all of the

740
00:41:43,360 --> 00:41:46,680
Speaker 2: Reds starting pitching depth, they still had to acquire a

741
00:41:46,760 --> 00:41:50,040
Speaker 2: starting pitcher last year at the trade deadline. For all

742
00:41:50,120 --> 00:41:52,759
Speaker 2: of their starting pitching depth, it felt like it kind

743
00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:55,200
Speaker 2: of dried up. They're down the stretch when they were

744
00:41:55,239 --> 00:41:58,560
Speaker 2: scratching and clawing to find their way into the postseason.

745
00:42:00,360 --> 00:42:03,800
Speaker 2: So I don't know about you, but to me, the

746
00:42:03,960 --> 00:42:06,359
Speaker 2: best approach for this team this year was to find

747
00:42:06,400 --> 00:42:10,560
Speaker 2: a way to address the biggest weakness, but have it

748
00:42:10,760 --> 00:42:13,279
Speaker 2: come at not the expense, or not have it come

749
00:42:13,360 --> 00:42:16,680
Speaker 2: at the expense. I should say of their biggest strength,

750
00:42:16,719 --> 00:42:18,680
Speaker 2: which is starting pitching. And this is what I love

751
00:42:18,760 --> 00:42:22,840
Speaker 2: most about au Haanio Suarez. All he cost him were

752
00:42:22,920 --> 00:42:25,439
Speaker 2: fifteen million dollars. By the way, that's not my money,

753
00:42:25,480 --> 00:42:27,160
Speaker 2: it's not your money. I don't care. I don't care

754
00:42:27,239 --> 00:42:29,799
Speaker 2: what they spend on players. I want them to spend

755
00:42:29,840 --> 00:42:32,080
Speaker 2: as much as possible. If they sign a guy to

756
00:42:32,160 --> 00:42:34,839
Speaker 2: a bad contract, you know it's it's bad, it's not good.

757
00:42:35,280 --> 00:42:37,640
Speaker 2: You can dig out from underneath it. You could overcome it.

758
00:42:38,200 --> 00:42:40,880
Speaker 2: They got a guy who had forty nine home runs

759
00:42:40,960 --> 00:42:45,600
Speaker 2: last year. It did not cost them. Nick Lodolo it

760
00:42:45,719 --> 00:42:48,799
Speaker 2: did not cost them. Chase Burns did not cost them.

761
00:42:48,960 --> 00:42:51,880
Speaker 2: Chase Petty it didn't cost him. Anybody named Chase didn't

762
00:42:51,920 --> 00:42:56,080
Speaker 2: cost him. Hunter Green didn't cost him, Andrew Abbott didn't

763
00:42:56,080 --> 00:43:00,600
Speaker 2: cost him. Rht Louder didn't cost him, Brandon Williamson, We're

764
00:43:00,680 --> 00:43:03,040
Speaker 2: going down the depth chart here. Didn't cost him. Anybody

765
00:43:03,080 --> 00:43:06,719
Speaker 2: in the bullpen is established either. This is the best part.

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Speaker 2: What the Reds have done this offseason is pretty good.

767
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Speaker 2: If we're grading, I don't know that any of us

768
00:43:15,280 --> 00:43:17,560
Speaker 2: would give them an A or an A plus. I

769
00:43:17,680 --> 00:43:19,440
Speaker 2: s Jeff Carr he had it at about a B

770
00:43:19,680 --> 00:43:22,080
Speaker 2: or a B minus, and it's kind of about where

771
00:43:22,080 --> 00:43:22,560
Speaker 2: I would have it.

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Speaker 3: I think I'd have it at a B.

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Speaker 2: B's a good grade, but I would be willing to

774
00:43:27,440 --> 00:43:30,479
Speaker 2: inflate it if you said, yeah, but the upgrades didn't

775
00:43:30,480 --> 00:43:33,800
Speaker 2: come at the expense of dudes you didn't want to

776
00:43:33,840 --> 00:43:34,200
Speaker 2: part with.

777
00:43:35,000 --> 00:43:36,279
Speaker 3: This is what made this is.

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Speaker 2: What's awesome about free agency. This is not the first

779
00:43:38,960 --> 00:43:41,480
Speaker 2: time we've talked about this. The last time the Reds

780
00:43:41,840 --> 00:43:44,960
Speaker 2: went forward in free agency was the offseason nineteen to twenty.

781
00:43:46,239 --> 00:43:48,640
Speaker 2: And what was awesome about that stretch. And you know,

782
00:43:48,800 --> 00:43:52,240
Speaker 2: unfortunately it was thwarted, so to speak, because of COVID.

783
00:43:53,040 --> 00:43:55,480
Speaker 2: But all those players the Reds got, some of them

784
00:43:55,560 --> 00:43:58,960
Speaker 2: worked out, some of whom are not so much. Shogaukayama

785
00:43:59,080 --> 00:44:02,719
Speaker 2: was not a good acquisition. The Mike Mustakas contract ended

786
00:44:02,800 --> 00:44:06,040
Speaker 2: up not being a favorable one, but they acquired talent

787
00:44:06,719 --> 00:44:09,080
Speaker 2: and it didn't cost them what is most important, the

788
00:44:09,120 --> 00:44:14,239
Speaker 2: most important currency in this sport, which is really good

789
00:44:14,320 --> 00:44:18,000
Speaker 2: starting pitching, which you cannot have too much of. If

790
00:44:18,040 --> 00:44:22,239
Speaker 2: there's a clicheade saying I buy into, it's you can

791
00:44:22,280 --> 00:44:23,640
Speaker 2: never have enough starting pitching.

792
00:44:23,880 --> 00:44:24,799
Speaker 3: We saw it last year.

793
00:44:25,760 --> 00:44:28,239
Speaker 2: You can never have enough starting pitching, which all these

794
00:44:28,280 --> 00:44:31,040
Speaker 2: good starting pitchers the Reds had last year. Thank god

795
00:44:31,160 --> 00:44:33,799
Speaker 2: for Brady Singer down there in the fourth or fifth

796
00:44:33,800 --> 00:44:36,600
Speaker 2: spot in the rotation. They don't make the postseason without

797
00:44:36,640 --> 00:44:39,280
Speaker 2: Brady's Singer in the month of August. This team falls

798
00:44:39,360 --> 00:44:41,760
Speaker 2: off a cliff in August if not for Brady Singer.

799
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Speaker 2: So you add that on top of some of the

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Speaker 2: starts that Hunter Green had in September and most of

801
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Speaker 2: the season that Andrew Abbott had, and most of the

802
00:44:49,600 --> 00:44:53,360
Speaker 2: season that Nick Lodolo had. You know, for a while

803
00:44:53,920 --> 00:44:56,400
Speaker 2: we were hearing about how the Reds were engaged with

804
00:44:56,520 --> 00:45:00,719
Speaker 2: the Chicago White Sox and discussions about Luis Robert man.

805
00:45:00,800 --> 00:45:03,560
Speaker 2: Louise Robert, when healthy a few years ago, was awesome

806
00:45:03,640 --> 00:45:06,440
Speaker 2: with the White Sox, and defensively he has few peers

807
00:45:07,280 --> 00:45:10,880
Speaker 2: and maybe a fully healthy Luise Roberts a really productive player.

808
00:45:11,960 --> 00:45:14,760
Speaker 2: If Luise Robert were a free agent and the Reds

809
00:45:14,840 --> 00:45:20,760
Speaker 2: signed him, how could anybody object to that? Right because

810
00:45:20,960 --> 00:45:22,400
Speaker 2: I don't know that it would be for what he

811
00:45:22,520 --> 00:45:24,560
Speaker 2: is going to be making this season with the Mets

812
00:45:24,680 --> 00:45:28,520
Speaker 2: taking over that contract from the White Sox. But adding

813
00:45:28,640 --> 00:45:31,479
Speaker 2: him to your team, if it just costs money, that's cool.

814
00:45:31,960 --> 00:45:36,920
Speaker 2: Where the Luise Robert thing became completely undesirable was when

815
00:45:36,960 --> 00:45:39,960
Speaker 2: you saw what the White Sox were asking for. Wait

816
00:45:40,000 --> 00:45:42,640
Speaker 2: a minute, I got to give up good starting pitchers

817
00:45:43,120 --> 00:45:45,759
Speaker 2: to get a guy who's never healthy and hasn't been

818
00:45:45,880 --> 00:45:52,720
Speaker 2: really productive now in years. So Souarez, Look, there are major,

819
00:45:52,880 --> 00:45:56,359
Speaker 2: major holes in his game. He's not going to get

820
00:45:56,400 --> 00:45:58,600
Speaker 2: on Baston. You and I know that he is going

821
00:45:58,680 --> 00:46:00,360
Speaker 2: to strike out a lot he always had, as you

822
00:46:00,440 --> 00:46:03,080
Speaker 2: and I know that if they have to put him

823
00:46:03,120 --> 00:46:06,880
Speaker 2: at third base, something has gone awry. If he has

824
00:46:06,960 --> 00:46:09,759
Speaker 2: to wear a glove, the Reds defensively aren't gonna be

825
00:46:09,800 --> 00:46:14,000
Speaker 2: as good as a different version of them. But he

826
00:46:14,080 --> 00:46:15,840
Speaker 2: can hit the ball out of the ballpark. He is

827
00:46:15,920 --> 00:46:19,800
Speaker 2: a one dimensional player. I think it was Charlie Goldsmith

828
00:46:19,800 --> 00:46:21,719
Speaker 2: who described him as such. And that's a fair that's

829
00:46:21,719 --> 00:46:27,239
Speaker 2: a fair description. He is a one dimensional player, but

830
00:46:27,400 --> 00:46:30,279
Speaker 2: he brings to Cincinnati the one dimension they didn't have

831
00:46:30,520 --> 00:46:36,960
Speaker 2: last year, home runs. The Reds got home runs. They

832
00:46:37,080 --> 00:46:39,920
Speaker 2: didn't have to sacrifice any run prevention to get them.

833
00:46:41,640 --> 00:46:42,080
Speaker 3: That's good.

834
00:46:43,200 --> 00:46:45,560
Speaker 2: This is how we should be talking about this team

835
00:46:45,640 --> 00:46:48,040
Speaker 2: moving forward. And by the way, that doesn't mean that

836
00:46:48,080 --> 00:46:51,400
Speaker 2: there's not room for trades. The Reds have benefited from trades.

837
00:46:54,360 --> 00:46:56,759
Speaker 2: But I would rather pay a bunch of money than

838
00:46:56,800 --> 00:47:03,280
Speaker 2: give up prized assets. I would rather go over budget.

839
00:47:03,719 --> 00:47:07,040
Speaker 2: I would rather sign somebody to a contract that maybe

840
00:47:07,160 --> 00:47:10,920
Speaker 2: isn't great then cut into the deepest part of my

841
00:47:11,040 --> 00:47:15,040
Speaker 2: team of I don't have to The good news is

842
00:47:15,160 --> 00:47:19,880
Speaker 2: to get at Uhaneusuirez, they didn't have to. So in

843
00:47:20,000 --> 00:47:23,680
Speaker 2: terms of player acquisition, I think you can give the

844
00:47:23,760 --> 00:47:28,720
Speaker 2: Reds a B. Three pretty good relievers address their biggest

845
00:47:28,719 --> 00:47:33,200
Speaker 2: issue on offense, added some bit players like Bidet or

846
00:47:33,280 --> 00:47:38,840
Speaker 2: Bladet and Dane Myers. Confusing bla Day and Bidet is unfortunate.

847
00:47:42,680 --> 00:47:45,160
Speaker 2: But where the offseason to me, really takes a positive

848
00:47:45,200 --> 00:47:47,520
Speaker 2: turn is when you look at who's still on the

849
00:47:47,560 --> 00:47:52,440
Speaker 2: team from last year. Because if the Reds do win

850
00:47:52,640 --> 00:47:55,520
Speaker 2: ninety to ninety five games, and that should be the goal.

851
00:47:56,560 --> 00:47:59,120
Speaker 2: And to go from eighty three wins to ninety to

852
00:47:59,239 --> 00:48:02,440
Speaker 2: ninety five is gonna have to require some things that

853
00:48:02,600 --> 00:48:06,080
Speaker 2: have to go dramatically different in twenty twenty six. But

854
00:48:06,160 --> 00:48:08,879
Speaker 2: if they're going to do that, still, the biggest reason

855
00:48:08,920 --> 00:48:11,719
Speaker 2: why is going to be the starting pitching. And it's

856
00:48:11,760 --> 00:48:14,280
Speaker 2: probably gonna be not just the quality of starting pitching,

857
00:48:14,320 --> 00:48:17,800
Speaker 2: it's going to be the depth of it. If you

858
00:48:17,920 --> 00:48:20,320
Speaker 2: can never have too much starting pitching. The Reds have

859
00:48:20,520 --> 00:48:25,640
Speaker 2: leaned into that this offseason. That is really really encouraging.

860
00:48:26,080 --> 00:48:28,640
Speaker 2: And look, there could have been guys available better than

861
00:48:28,719 --> 00:48:31,680
Speaker 2: Gino that would have cost the Reds some starting pitching,

862
00:48:32,320 --> 00:48:34,399
Speaker 2: and you know, I think you would have to treat

863
00:48:34,440 --> 00:48:36,040
Speaker 2: those on a case by case basis.

864
00:48:36,960 --> 00:48:37,960
Speaker 3: But if you go back to.

865
00:48:38,040 --> 00:48:43,320
Speaker 2: Early October, it felt like a distinct possibility that, Okay,

866
00:48:43,440 --> 00:48:45,279
Speaker 2: to go get a slugger, you're gonna have to part

867
00:48:45,320 --> 00:48:49,680
Speaker 2: with something. I mean, you could find Reds fans who

868
00:48:49,880 --> 00:48:54,479
Speaker 2: talked actively about godd you trade Hunter Green and it's like, huh,

869
00:48:55,360 --> 00:48:56,759
Speaker 2: what what you want to do?

870
00:48:56,880 --> 00:48:57,440
Speaker 8: What now.

871
00:48:58,920 --> 00:49:01,719
Speaker 2: You want to trade away a cost controlled staff ace,

872
00:49:01,880 --> 00:49:05,279
Speaker 2: two time All Star a guy who was money in

873
00:49:05,400 --> 00:49:08,600
Speaker 2: September for you. You want to huh Nope, didn't have

874
00:49:08,719 --> 00:49:12,319
Speaker 2: to do it. Well, you might want to trade Nicolodola

875
00:49:12,400 --> 00:49:18,680
Speaker 2: what huh yeah, excuse me now? So uh reasonable cost

876
00:49:18,760 --> 00:49:24,480
Speaker 2: control there? And uh a guy a guy who was

877
00:49:25,120 --> 00:49:29,440
Speaker 2: a walking quality start for a stretch last season. You

878
00:49:29,520 --> 00:49:31,680
Speaker 2: know what, you might have to trade Andrew Abbit? Well, hey,

879
00:49:31,719 --> 00:49:34,399
Speaker 2: hang on anyway, So so like they're they're all star

880
00:49:34,560 --> 00:49:38,360
Speaker 2: starting pitcher. Last year franchise that hasn't been associated with

881
00:49:38,400 --> 00:49:40,600
Speaker 2: a ton of starting pitchers got a trade. Uh huh,

882
00:49:41,400 --> 00:49:45,400
Speaker 2: didn't have to do any The strength of last year's

883
00:49:45,400 --> 00:49:52,040
Speaker 2: team remains intact. They just addressed its biggest weakness. That's

884
00:49:52,120 --> 00:49:56,279
Speaker 2: the best type of off season. You don't cut into

885
00:49:56,320 --> 00:49:59,239
Speaker 2: your weakness to make a strength. I'm sorry, you don't

886
00:49:59,280 --> 00:50:01,880
Speaker 2: cut into a to fortify a weakness.

887
00:50:03,760 --> 00:50:07,600
Speaker 3: That's the best. That to me is where they get

888
00:50:07,640 --> 00:50:08,480
Speaker 3: a really good grade.

889
00:50:10,360 --> 00:50:12,640
Speaker 2: This part of the team that they are really good

890
00:50:12,719 --> 00:50:17,800
Speaker 2: at is still completely and totally intact. This part of

891
00:50:17,840 --> 00:50:21,800
Speaker 2: the team that was woeful last year, it's been addressed.

892
00:50:23,080 --> 00:50:23,760
Speaker 3: That's good.

893
00:50:26,239 --> 00:50:28,560
Speaker 2: Five point three seven, fifteen thirty. I tell you what

894
00:50:28,640 --> 00:50:32,440
Speaker 2: else has to be good next? Now that if the

895
00:50:32,640 --> 00:50:35,680
Speaker 2: Cincinnati Reds are going to be markedly better in twenty

896
00:50:35,880 --> 00:50:42,000
Speaker 2: twenty six. It will largely be based on two things. One,

897
00:50:43,200 --> 00:50:45,080
Speaker 2: the starting pitching is going to have to be as

898
00:50:45,160 --> 00:50:48,520
Speaker 2: good and chances are, in many respects even better than

899
00:50:48,560 --> 00:50:51,680
Speaker 2: it was last year. Number Two, a whole lot of

900
00:50:51,800 --> 00:50:54,520
Speaker 2: dudes who are part of the organization last year are

901
00:50:54,600 --> 00:50:56,640
Speaker 2: going to have to contribute more at the big league

902
00:50:56,719 --> 00:51:01,000
Speaker 2: level this season. So, yes, they needed a bat from

903
00:51:01,040 --> 00:51:03,520
Speaker 2: the outside, They've gotten one. We know what Gino is

904
00:51:03,560 --> 00:51:08,000
Speaker 2: going to bring to the table. But Allie Deyla Cruz

905
00:51:08,120 --> 00:51:10,719
Speaker 2: must be a more productive player in twenty twenty six.

906
00:51:12,320 --> 00:51:15,800
Speaker 2: I'm sure. I'm sure everyone will tell you. While he's healthier,

907
00:51:16,120 --> 00:51:20,480
Speaker 2: he feels better, he's physically more capable of putting up

908
00:51:20,480 --> 00:51:23,640
Speaker 2: the sort of numbers that we expect from him. Regardless,

909
00:51:24,080 --> 00:51:27,759
Speaker 2: they need those numbers. They need Matt McClain to be

910
00:51:27,880 --> 00:51:31,520
Speaker 2: a substantially better offensive player in twenty twenty six than

911
00:51:31,560 --> 00:51:35,120
Speaker 2: he was last season. They need a full year of

912
00:51:35,160 --> 00:51:38,520
Speaker 2: production from Sal Stewart, they need a full year of

913
00:51:38,560 --> 00:51:41,200
Speaker 2: production from Noel ve Marte, and they could use some

914
00:51:41,320 --> 00:51:46,000
Speaker 2: more from the catching position as well. So this has always,

915
00:51:46,400 --> 00:51:49,960
Speaker 2: I think been the case what acquiring a u Haanio

916
00:51:50,040 --> 00:51:52,719
Speaker 2: Suarez does is it fills a need. It fills a gap,

917
00:51:53,239 --> 00:51:54,799
Speaker 2: may fill a spot in the middle of the order,

918
00:51:55,680 --> 00:51:59,799
Speaker 2: provides a tangible home run thread, an important home run

919
00:51:59,800 --> 00:52:04,960
Speaker 2: for at But I think what was true a week

920
00:52:05,000 --> 00:52:09,960
Speaker 2: ago is still true today. That what this team's success

921
00:52:10,120 --> 00:52:14,879
Speaker 2: this season hinges on is more all. It's just basic math, right.

922
00:52:15,040 --> 00:52:20,080
Speaker 2: All the guys who either last year underperformed or weren't

923
00:52:20,080 --> 00:52:22,600
Speaker 2: with the team for much of the season like Sal Stuart,

924
00:52:23,680 --> 00:52:26,399
Speaker 2: or had stretches where they were really good, but other

925
00:52:26,440 --> 00:52:30,080
Speaker 2: stretches where they were you know, non productive, like Ellie Delacruz.

926
00:52:30,680 --> 00:52:33,239
Speaker 2: A lot of that stuff has to be rectified for

927
00:52:33,360 --> 00:52:36,399
Speaker 2: the geno thing to really really work. Twenty three minutes

928
00:52:36,440 --> 00:52:39,799
Speaker 2: after four o'clock, Mike, you're on ESPN fifteen thirty.

929
00:52:39,880 --> 00:52:42,800
Speaker 3: Mike, go ahead, boy.

930
00:52:42,719 --> 00:52:45,160
Speaker 11: You are one gentleman. I'll have to say that, well,

931
00:52:46,760 --> 00:52:50,759
Speaker 11: it appears that you have the late lender goosebumps over

932
00:52:50,920 --> 00:52:52,000
Speaker 11: our Cincinnati read.

933
00:52:54,320 --> 00:52:55,799
Speaker 2: I don't know if I'd go that far, but I'm

934
00:52:55,840 --> 00:52:59,239
Speaker 2: excited that they've addressed at their biggest issue from last year.

935
00:53:00,600 --> 00:53:03,040
Speaker 11: Yeah, I agree, I was just you know, we can

936
00:53:03,160 --> 00:53:05,120
Speaker 11: wish away of course, it's always if that's this, But

937
00:53:06,400 --> 00:53:10,440
Speaker 11: I was wishing a month ago that they could get it.

938
00:53:10,600 --> 00:53:14,160
Speaker 11: Wasn't this Schward or whoever a left handed power hitter,

939
00:53:14,239 --> 00:53:17,160
Speaker 11: because l is the only left handed power hitter sort

940
00:53:17,200 --> 00:53:19,880
Speaker 11: of that we have. But you know, this will be

941
00:53:20,120 --> 00:53:23,200
Speaker 11: a good experiment and hopefully it works for the best

942
00:53:23,320 --> 00:53:25,399
Speaker 11: pitchings the name of the game. I just hope Hunter

943
00:53:25,560 --> 00:53:28,719
Speaker 11: can have a season where he's not hurt multiple times. Yes,

944
00:53:28,800 --> 00:53:32,520
Speaker 11: and that Lodolo because the Dodgers can get away with that.

945
00:53:32,719 --> 00:53:35,040
Speaker 11: Certain teams can't because they just have enough hitting. But

946
00:53:35,200 --> 00:53:38,439
Speaker 11: the Reds aren't able. And I pray to god Hunter

947
00:53:38,560 --> 00:53:41,319
Speaker 11: goes the whole year, don't you and Lodolo too, because

948
00:53:41,360 --> 00:53:43,960
Speaker 11: they would be outstanding if they could stay healthy.

949
00:53:44,719 --> 00:53:49,040
Speaker 2: It's it's the one thing they haven't done right. It's

950
00:53:49,440 --> 00:53:51,640
Speaker 2: the one thing that if you talk about the strength

951
00:53:51,680 --> 00:53:54,640
Speaker 2: of the Reds team, that's sort of you know, hangs

952
00:53:54,680 --> 00:53:58,040
Speaker 2: out there that Hunter Green has yet to get through

953
00:53:58,080 --> 00:54:00,600
Speaker 2: a full season without having to go on the injured list.

954
00:54:01,680 --> 00:54:05,719
Speaker 2: And you know, nothing against anybody else on the team,

955
00:54:05,920 --> 00:54:10,080
Speaker 2: but he's the guy. He's the staff as he's the

956
00:54:10,120 --> 00:54:12,359
Speaker 2: guy they gave the ball to in Game one last year.

957
00:54:12,520 --> 00:54:17,759
Speaker 2: It obviously went very very poorly. Nickolodolo, who as a

958
00:54:17,840 --> 00:54:20,759
Speaker 2: general rule, had a very very good season last year,

959
00:54:21,440 --> 00:54:23,000
Speaker 2: but he still had to spend a little time I

960
00:54:23,040 --> 00:54:25,440
Speaker 2: think missed three starts last season on the injured list.

961
00:54:27,360 --> 00:54:29,680
Speaker 2: Chances are, somebody is gonna get hurt, right, I mean

962
00:54:29,719 --> 00:54:33,800
Speaker 2: it's you know, in twenty twelve, everybody, the entire staff

963
00:54:33,880 --> 00:54:37,240
Speaker 2: got through the season unhinged, unhurt. Nobody went on the DL,

964
00:54:37,280 --> 00:54:40,279
Speaker 2: and then Johnnyquato got hurt Game one. Chances are there's

965
00:54:40,320 --> 00:54:42,839
Speaker 2: going to be nothing like that. But yeah, man, you're

966
00:54:43,040 --> 00:54:46,719
Speaker 2: just you're hoping for better health for those guys individually

967
00:54:47,400 --> 00:54:50,160
Speaker 2: and for that group collectively, and if they get it,

968
00:54:51,160 --> 00:54:55,080
Speaker 2: then then the the strength of the team becomes an

969
00:54:55,160 --> 00:54:57,239
Speaker 2: even bigger strength. I would agree with that.

970
00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:01,600
Speaker 11: Can I do a little before I want to get

971
00:55:01,680 --> 00:55:04,520
Speaker 11: to a couple of Super Bowl points? But quickly on

972
00:55:04,640 --> 00:55:10,360
Speaker 11: college basketball, this Peterson kid for Kansas is some He's

973
00:55:10,440 --> 00:55:13,160
Speaker 11: the best domestic player we have. I don't know about

974
00:55:13,200 --> 00:55:15,640
Speaker 11: the guys coming in from low reseas, but this guy

975
00:55:15,800 --> 00:55:18,320
Speaker 11: is special, mom, uh he is.

976
00:55:18,840 --> 00:55:22,719
Speaker 2: And you know I watched the BYU game, which I

977
00:55:22,800 --> 00:55:25,080
Speaker 2: thought was going to be a much much better game.

978
00:55:25,880 --> 00:55:30,000
Speaker 2: Darren Peterson had a very quiet twenty in that game, right, yeah,

979
00:55:30,600 --> 00:55:33,600
Speaker 2: very very very quiet twenty In that game. Bryson Tiller

980
00:55:33,640 --> 00:55:38,320
Speaker 2: had twenty one for Kansas. Every NBA mock draft that

981
00:55:38,400 --> 00:55:41,359
Speaker 2: I have seen has Darren Peterson as the number one

982
00:55:41,400 --> 00:55:45,080
Speaker 2: overall pick. Cincinnati plays him on the twenty first. I'm

983
00:55:45,120 --> 00:55:48,120
Speaker 2: not looking forward to it, no, And.

984
00:55:48,200 --> 00:55:50,880
Speaker 11: I really think I'm so happy for his age, because

985
00:55:51,000 --> 00:55:53,239
Speaker 11: I think they landed a real winner here with the

986
00:55:53,360 --> 00:55:56,520
Speaker 11: Tito Junior. I really do see that kid. The kid

987
00:55:56,600 --> 00:55:58,600
Speaker 11: that he brought from New Mexico with him was the

988
00:55:58,640 --> 00:56:01,120
Speaker 11: one that buried the game the other night. And that

989
00:56:01,239 --> 00:56:02,200
Speaker 11: guy can play well.

990
00:56:02,239 --> 00:56:05,960
Speaker 2: He can out play again Philip Orovichen And you know,

991
00:56:06,040 --> 00:56:09,960
Speaker 2: the the very first time I watched him, he played

992
00:56:10,000 --> 00:56:14,880
Speaker 2: against UC for Arizona, and then it felt like, all right,

993
00:56:14,960 --> 00:56:17,279
Speaker 2: he's going to go down a level from the Pac

994
00:56:17,360 --> 00:56:20,239
Speaker 2: twelve at the time to the Mountain West and now

995
00:56:20,280 --> 00:56:22,000
Speaker 2: he's playing in the Big East and averaging ten of

996
00:56:22,040 --> 00:56:24,520
Speaker 2: game and made the game winning shot on Saturday.

997
00:56:25,520 --> 00:56:26,080
Speaker 6: He sure did.

998
00:56:26,200 --> 00:56:28,880
Speaker 11: And I loved Patino's whole attitude in the postgame. Was

999
00:56:28,960 --> 00:56:32,160
Speaker 11: so cool with the crediting the assistant coaches. You know,

1000
00:56:32,280 --> 00:56:35,640
Speaker 11: all that, but it was pretty neat. Okay, super Bowl

1001
00:56:35,680 --> 00:56:38,080
Speaker 11: real quickly. I think the real wild card in this

1002
00:56:38,239 --> 00:56:41,520
Speaker 11: game for New England is Marcus Jones because of his

1003
00:56:41,719 --> 00:56:47,440
Speaker 11: ability to play cornerback and on special teams. This guy

1004
00:56:47,600 --> 00:56:52,279
Speaker 11: is dangerous. And I know, and I'm going I mean,

1005
00:56:52,360 --> 00:56:55,960
Speaker 11: I never played props and parlays never, but I'm gonna

1006
00:56:56,000 --> 00:56:59,719
Speaker 11: go out on a limb this this week. And I'm

1007
00:56:59,760 --> 00:57:04,360
Speaker 11: taking Seattle, of course, but I'm gonna say, uh and

1008
00:57:04,520 --> 00:57:08,200
Speaker 11: Jigba is gonna go under ninety and a half because

1009
00:57:08,280 --> 00:57:11,759
Speaker 11: Bravel's gonna double him or bracket him the whole game.

1010
00:57:11,920 --> 00:57:13,960
Speaker 11: And if it's garbage time at the end of Seattle

1011
00:57:14,120 --> 00:57:16,160
Speaker 11: is winning, it's that's not going to be in jeopardy.

1012
00:57:16,200 --> 00:57:18,080
Speaker 11: But I'm taking the under on that ninety four and

1013
00:57:18,120 --> 00:57:20,360
Speaker 11: a half. Receiving yards from Jigba.

1014
00:57:20,800 --> 00:57:24,280
Speaker 2: Well, I think in Jigma versus Christian Gonzalez is maybe

1015
00:57:24,360 --> 00:57:26,439
Speaker 2: going to be the matchup that defines this Super Bowl.

1016
00:57:26,480 --> 00:57:29,400
Speaker 2: I think in Jigba, I think they're almost going to

1017
00:57:29,440 --> 00:57:33,560
Speaker 2: force feed him the ball. There's a few that I

1018
00:57:33,760 --> 00:57:35,760
Speaker 2: like that we'll talk about later in the week. I

1019
00:57:35,840 --> 00:57:40,720
Speaker 2: think my favorite one is the Seattle defense. Anytime touchdown yeah,

1020
00:57:40,760 --> 00:57:41,280
Speaker 2: I saw that.

1021
00:57:41,480 --> 00:57:44,560
Speaker 11: That's got me intrigued. I just every time I do this, mo,

1022
00:57:44,720 --> 00:57:46,480
Speaker 11: I end up doing and I'm done it well, But

1023
00:57:46,680 --> 00:57:50,280
Speaker 11: every time I do two or three props and you know,

1024
00:57:50,400 --> 00:57:53,640
Speaker 11: I just don't let out a whole lot typically, So

1025
00:57:53,920 --> 00:57:54,400
Speaker 11: that's why I.

1026
00:57:54,520 --> 00:57:55,240
Speaker 6: Try to stick to it.

1027
00:57:55,920 --> 00:57:57,959
Speaker 11: You taught me this a long time ago, my friend.

1028
00:57:58,240 --> 00:58:02,240
Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, well, I don't play parlays. I think

1029
00:58:02,280 --> 00:58:03,520
Speaker 2: parlays are a sucker bet.

1030
00:58:05,000 --> 00:58:05,160
Speaker 6: You know.

1031
00:58:05,720 --> 00:58:08,960
Speaker 2: I feel like if you're gonna be not that I

1032
00:58:09,080 --> 00:58:13,480
Speaker 2: haven't done them. And there are exceptions that I will make.

1033
00:58:14,400 --> 00:58:17,080
Speaker 2: But it's like I'll hear somebody talk about, like I

1034
00:58:17,160 --> 00:58:21,600
Speaker 2: lost my six teamer, Well, how made you get right five? Okay,

1035
00:58:21,640 --> 00:58:23,760
Speaker 2: well he didn't win any Why don't you make six

1036
00:58:23,880 --> 00:58:26,440
Speaker 2: individual bets and if you hit five and then you're

1037
00:58:26,480 --> 00:58:31,320
Speaker 2: a winner. I think betting parlays is buying a raffle ticket.

1038
00:58:31,440 --> 00:58:33,960
Speaker 2: Occasionally you'll win, more often than not, you'll lose. And

1039
00:58:34,040 --> 00:58:37,480
Speaker 2: you might say that about wagering overall. But every time

1040
00:58:37,520 --> 00:58:39,640
Speaker 2: I hear somebody tell me about their three teamer and

1041
00:58:40,360 --> 00:58:42,320
Speaker 2: two of them hit, and I'm like, well, had you

1042
00:58:42,440 --> 00:58:44,720
Speaker 2: made three individual bets if two of them hit, that

1043
00:58:44,880 --> 00:58:49,160
Speaker 2: you win. That's that's more fun than losing all three

1044
00:58:49,440 --> 00:58:52,320
Speaker 2: and then not winning any You got it.

1045
00:58:52,960 --> 00:58:55,600
Speaker 11: Teach him, teach him brother, and one last thing.

1046
00:58:55,680 --> 00:58:56,360
Speaker 6: I know, you got to go.

1047
00:58:57,200 --> 00:58:59,360
Speaker 11: You may be aware of this, but the listeners may

1048
00:58:59,400 --> 00:59:02,480
Speaker 11: not be. This is the sixtieth Super Bowl and this

1049
00:59:02,680 --> 00:59:05,560
Speaker 11: is only the fifth time that two teams are in

1050
00:59:05,680 --> 00:59:08,360
Speaker 11: there that did not make the playoffs this year. The

1051
00:59:08,480 --> 00:59:10,919
Speaker 11: one that really jumps out at me is Brady after

1052
00:59:11,000 --> 00:59:13,440
Speaker 11: he won his first New England did not make the

1053
00:59:13,480 --> 00:59:16,600
Speaker 11: playoffs the next year. That's how hard When I hear

1054
00:59:16,680 --> 00:59:20,200
Speaker 11: guys and you different broadcasters say how hard it is

1055
00:59:20,320 --> 00:59:23,440
Speaker 11: to make it to the super Bowl. That's a perfect example.

1056
00:59:23,600 --> 00:59:25,440
Speaker 11: Five times in sixty years.

1057
00:59:27,000 --> 00:59:29,480
Speaker 3: I didn't know that, but it makes sense now that

1058
00:59:29,560 --> 00:59:29,960
Speaker 3: you say it.

1059
00:59:31,200 --> 00:59:31,400
Speaker 5: Yep.

1060
00:59:31,600 --> 00:59:33,480
Speaker 11: Anyway, thanks pal, I appreciate the time.

1061
00:59:33,600 --> 00:59:36,480
Speaker 2: Okay, Mike, thank you, thanks very much. Yeah, man, Like,

1062
00:59:36,600 --> 00:59:39,680
Speaker 2: that's like the red starting pitching last year was a

1063
00:59:39,720 --> 00:59:42,600
Speaker 2: strength in order for it to be a bigger strength

1064
00:59:42,840 --> 00:59:45,760
Speaker 2: this year than some of those dudes who haven't gotten

1065
00:59:45,880 --> 00:59:48,000
Speaker 2: yet through full of a full big league season without

1066
00:59:48,000 --> 00:59:50,360
Speaker 2: getting hurt are going to have to go the whole,

1067
00:59:51,040 --> 00:59:53,080
Speaker 2: the whole six months. Make thirty two to thirty three

1068
00:59:53,120 --> 00:59:56,520
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Speaker 2: The Reds are reportedly signing a Johanneo Suarez to a

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Speaker 2: one year contract with a mutual option for twenty twenty seventies,

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Speaker 2: due to make roughly fifteen million bucks this year. You

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Speaker 2: know Gino used to play for the Reds, and then

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Speaker 2: last year he played for the Diamondbacks and the Mariners,

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Speaker 2: and between those two spots stops places, whatever, and the

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Speaker 2: postseason he had fifty two home runs. Reds neat home runs.

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Speaker 2: Gino hits home runs, and he'll be hitting his home

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Speaker 2: runs now in a Reds uniform, which is good.

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Speaker 3: College basketball.

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Speaker 2: The Miami RedHawks move up a spot to twenty second

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Speaker 2: in the latest AP Top twenty five men's college basketball poll.

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Speaker 2: Louisville slides four spots to twenty fourth. Kentucky got twenty

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Speaker 2: eight votes, which is good enough for thirtieth. More tonight

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Speaker 2: on the Wildcats on the Mark Pope Show that's at

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Speaker 2: six pm on ESPN fifteen thirty, followed up by the

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Speaker 2: NKU Coaches Show that is going to be at seven

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Speaker 2: on ESPN fifteen thirty. There is no Richard Patino radio show.

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Speaker 2: Tonight is the Musketeers are traveling today to Connecticut to

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Speaker 2: take on Yukon tomorrow tomorrow on the show Two Things

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Speaker 2: I'm Really excited about.

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Speaker 3: One is on Friday, I.

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Speaker 2: Went to the Elder Sportstag Jeans Territor, a longtime NFL official,

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Speaker 2: college basketball official, current rules analyst, on CBS was the

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Speaker 2: guest speaker and I had a chance to conduct an

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Speaker 2: interview with him that I'm going to run tomorrow and

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Speaker 2: I'm looking forward to that. And then, obviously, because it's Tuesday,

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Speaker 2: our guy Paul Danner Junior, also our friend Stewart W.

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Speaker 2: Penrose from the Manilo Law Group. I did Danner's podcast

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Speaker 2: today and we talked about the Seahawks and the Patriots

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Speaker 2: and maybe some lessons that could be applied to those

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Speaker 2: two franchises.

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Speaker 3: And I want you to listen to the podcast.

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Speaker 2: But one thing to me, there's a few things that

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Speaker 2: stand out when you look at how those teams were built.

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Speaker 2: But both teams did something that I'm sure was difficult.

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Speaker 2: The Seattle Seahawks traded Russell Wilson. Russell Wilson is the

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Speaker 2: greatest Seattle Seahawks quarterback of all time. I Am not

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Speaker 2: going to dive into his Hall of Fame case because

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Speaker 2: I have no idea what makes a Hall of famer

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Speaker 2: in football anymore. But he took them the two Super

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Speaker 2: Bowls and had a lot of help a beloved Seattle

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Speaker 2: Seahawks for basically a decade, and with him still having

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Speaker 2: a desire to play and probably still having at least

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Speaker 2: some gas in the tank. The Seattle Seahawks made the

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Speaker 2: difficult decision to trade him. They got draft picks in

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Speaker 2: return that have turned out to be key players on

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Speaker 2: this year's Super Bowl team. They did something that I'm

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Speaker 2: sure was difficult. They did something that I'm sure on

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Speaker 2: some level hurt. They did something that, on some level,

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01:03:51,720 --> 01:03:55,120
Speaker 2: because of the statue of the player involved, they got

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Speaker 2: some public pushback. But they did something and decided, we're

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Speaker 2: going to strip away the emotion. We're gonna strip away

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Speaker 2: what this player has done, and we're gonna do something

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01:04:06,160 --> 01:04:10,080
Speaker 2: that's good for our future, good for us moving forward,

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01:04:10,760 --> 01:04:13,640
Speaker 2: and maybe endorse and pushback and maybe endorse some short

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01:04:13,720 --> 01:04:19,880
Speaker 2: term pain. It has worked out. It's not apples to apples,

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01:04:19,920 --> 01:04:23,000
Speaker 2: but the New England Patriots last season twenty twenty four,

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01:04:23,760 --> 01:04:28,240
Speaker 2: remember Gerrod Mayo coached the Patriots, won his head coaching

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01:04:28,320 --> 01:04:30,600
Speaker 2: debut in Cincinnati against the Bengals.

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Speaker 3: A beloved member of.

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Speaker 2: The New England Patriots, highly accomplished player, very very popular,

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01:04:41,200 --> 01:04:45,919
Speaker 2: and with that franchise, I think it was clear well

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01:04:46,080 --> 01:04:50,960
Speaker 2: before last season ended, this ain't the guy. It did

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01:04:51,120 --> 01:04:55,400
Speaker 2: help that Mike Rabel, who obviously also played for the Patriots,

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01:04:55,960 --> 01:04:59,920
Speaker 2: was available, but they did something that I'm sure emotionally

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01:05:00,200 --> 01:05:01,080
Speaker 2: was not easy to.

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01:05:01,120 --> 01:05:04,760
Speaker 3: Do, cut ties with a beloved member of the franchise.

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01:05:06,520 --> 01:05:08,240
Speaker 2: I'm gonna be willing to bet there wasn't a ton

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01:05:08,320 --> 01:05:11,040
Speaker 2: of public pushback, because as soon as you say, hey,

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01:05:11,080 --> 01:05:13,120
Speaker 2: we can hire Mike Vrabel, it's like, yeah, let this

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01:05:13,240 --> 01:05:16,600
Speaker 2: guy go. But I'm sure that wasn't easy. I think

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01:05:16,640 --> 01:05:21,400
Speaker 2: there's something there about demonstrating the willingness to do things

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01:05:21,440 --> 01:05:25,000
Speaker 2: that are difficult that you might get some some pushback

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01:05:25,040 --> 01:05:28,560
Speaker 2: for that that might not be that popular popular I

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01:05:28,640 --> 01:05:33,080
Speaker 2: can't talk today, that might might be difficult to do emotionally.

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Speaker 2: Don't you just kind of wonder how things would have

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01:05:38,400 --> 01:05:41,040
Speaker 2: played out for this team had they hit the eject

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Speaker 2: button on Trey Hendrickson. Don't you wonder how this offseason

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01:05:47,920 --> 01:05:50,200
Speaker 2: will be talked about had they hit the eject button

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01:05:50,240 --> 01:05:55,160
Speaker 2: on Duke Tobin. Two entirely different figures. One guy plays,

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Speaker 2: one guy doesn't. With Trey hendricks in its guys meant

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01:05:59,480 --> 01:06:03,240
Speaker 2: a lot to there's what he's done, but you don't

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01:06:03,280 --> 01:06:05,480
Speaker 2: have plans for him down the road. So do something

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01:06:05,520 --> 01:06:10,800
Speaker 2: that admittedly is kind of difficult. Trade away Trey Duke

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01:06:10,880 --> 01:06:14,520
Speaker 2: Tobin has his share of successes here, but it does

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01:06:14,640 --> 01:06:17,280
Speaker 2: feel like one of the reasons why they're keeping him

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01:06:17,320 --> 01:06:21,280
Speaker 2: in place and leaning in on continuity is loyalty. It's

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01:06:21,360 --> 01:06:24,680
Speaker 2: long been a word used to describe how the Bengals operate. Loyalty.

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Speaker 2: Sometimes you got to do things that are really hard,

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Speaker 2: really really difficult, and it feels like this franchise isn't

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Speaker 2: always willing.

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Speaker 6: To do that.

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01:06:37,080 --> 01:06:41,160
Speaker 2: Now they've gotten in some public tussles with players that

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Speaker 2: fans love and that have proven to be valuable members

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Speaker 2: of this franchise, but there haven't been There haven't been

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Speaker 2: the sort of decisions that I'm sure we're very difficult

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01:06:56,520 --> 01:07:03,080
Speaker 2: to make in Seattle and in New England, and so

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01:07:03,320 --> 01:07:05,840
Speaker 2: I'm I'm kind of wondering if moving forward the Bengals

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01:07:05,840 --> 01:07:07,840
Speaker 2: will be a little bit more willing to do those

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01:07:07,880 --> 01:07:10,680
Speaker 2: sort of things, even if you want to go back

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01:07:10,720 --> 01:07:14,440
Speaker 2: aways sort of before this current regime, you know, the

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01:07:14,520 --> 01:07:16,840
Speaker 2: amount of players in the Lay twenty tens they would

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01:07:16,840 --> 01:07:19,440
Speaker 2: bring back, just keep bringing back, keep running it back,

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Speaker 2: keep running twenty fifteen back, and it's like at some

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Speaker 2: point you got to go, you know what we're done here?

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Speaker 2: Two franchises playing in the Super Bowl have had a

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Speaker 2: willingness to do that. Seventeen away from uh five o'clock

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Speaker 2: five point three, seven four nine, fifteen thirty is our

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Speaker 2: number eight sixty six seven oh two three seven seven

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Speaker 2: six Aujano Souarez is back. Remember something about last year's offense.

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Speaker 2: If not, I'll remind you next on ESPN fifteen.

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Speaker 2: This report is sponsored by I Answer for You There

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Speaker 2: twelve from five ESPN fifteen thirty. Last week, our friend

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Speaker 2: James Rapine joined us on Friday. We do this roughly

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Speaker 2: the same time a year, every single year where we

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Speaker 2: do sort of an off season overview and dive into

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Speaker 2: some of the key questions for the coming months. If

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Speaker 2: you miss James on Friday, go listen to that segment

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Speaker 2: right now. It's on the iHeartRadio app. It's also on

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Speaker 2: my page at ESPN fifteen thirty dot com. We had

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Speaker 2: t Higgins and Chase Brown last week as well, a

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01:09:00,680 --> 01:09:04,080
Speaker 2: very good interview with a smart guy, a guy by

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Speaker 2: the name of Sam Brookhouse from a summer sports.

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Speaker 3: He joined us from the Senior Bowl, and we did

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Speaker 3: a very.

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Speaker 2: Preliminary sort of draft overview and didn't dive too deep

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Speaker 2: into the weeds because I don't know how you do

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Speaker 2: that in last week it was late January.

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Speaker 3: I'm not sure how you do that in early February.

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Speaker 2: But we did talk about some possibilities and position groups

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Speaker 2: and players to kind of keep an eye out for.

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Speaker 2: So if you miss that conversation, go listen to it

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Speaker 2: on the iHeartRadio app. Podcasts of this show are a

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Speaker 2: service of Long Neck Sports Grill. You got three locations.

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Speaker 2: All we need is you great place for Sunday, there's

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Speaker 2: a football game. Seattle plays in it, New England plays

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Speaker 2: in it. You could watch it at Long Necks. Tons

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Speaker 2: of great food, ice, cold beer, four KTVs all over

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Speaker 2: the place. We love Long Necks, eleven away from five o'clock.

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Speaker 2: You know, if you would listen to how we and

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Speaker 2: when I say we, I mean me, if you would

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Speaker 2: have spent the last four months listening to how we

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01:10:16,240 --> 01:10:20,680
Speaker 2: talk about the Reds offense, you would think it was

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01:10:21,240 --> 01:10:26,519
Speaker 2: one of the absolute worst in baseball last season. The

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01:10:26,640 --> 01:10:30,759
Speaker 2: truth is, the Reds were fourteenth and run scored pretty

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01:10:30,800 --> 01:10:36,400
Speaker 2: much league average. Now, there was no real offensive identity.

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01:10:37,439 --> 01:10:40,000
Speaker 2: Like when you think of like last season's Reds offense,

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01:10:41,080 --> 01:10:43,880
Speaker 2: you certainly don't think of power. You don't think of

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01:10:44,000 --> 01:10:47,080
Speaker 2: high on base percentage. You don't think of being really

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01:10:47,120 --> 01:10:49,240
Speaker 2: good at playing small ball, you don't think of being

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01:10:49,360 --> 01:10:54,000
Speaker 2: really good situationally. It was remarkable how bad the Reds

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01:10:54,040 --> 01:10:56,560
Speaker 2: were in extra innings last year. This is something that

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01:10:56,680 --> 01:10:59,720
Speaker 2: we went over timing again right that they went on

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01:10:59,800 --> 01:11:04,040
Speaker 2: this it's just statistically almost impossible stretch where they pretty

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01:11:04,080 --> 01:11:07,640
Speaker 2: much never scored in extra innings. When the odds are

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01:11:07,680 --> 01:11:09,920
Speaker 2: in your favor of scoring and extra innings because we

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01:11:10,040 --> 01:11:13,000
Speaker 2: start with the dumb rule where the guys on second

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01:11:13,040 --> 01:11:16,200
Speaker 2: base to start at the inning. So they were bad situationally,

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01:11:17,160 --> 01:11:20,360
Speaker 2: they didn't do anything really well. They were sort of

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01:11:20,439 --> 01:11:23,439
Speaker 2: a station to station string, a bunch of hits together

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01:11:23,479 --> 01:11:28,920
Speaker 2: a team. They had no real offensive identity, but lack

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01:11:29,000 --> 01:11:31,360
Speaker 2: of production wasn't as much of a problem as you

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01:11:31,479 --> 01:11:36,400
Speaker 2: might think. Fourteenth in the league and run scored. So

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Speaker 2: this offseason, as we discussed, you know, back in November,

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Speaker 2: Kyle Schwerber and then after Kyle Schwarber, other alternatives and

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Speaker 2: why they weren't going after certain players who were then

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01:11:49,439 --> 01:11:52,280
Speaker 2: like next on the list after Kyle Schwerber, and the

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01:11:52,400 --> 01:11:54,960
Speaker 2: pros and cons of going after Luis Robert, and the

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01:11:55,000 --> 01:11:58,719
Speaker 2: pros and cons of going after Ktel Marte, the pros

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Speaker 2: and cons of going after Luis Arayaz who's gonna sign

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Speaker 2: with the San Francisco Giants, and the pros and cons

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Speaker 2: of a Uhaneo Suarez. We've been talking about them adding

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Speaker 2: basically one guy. We haven't been talking about overhauling the offense.

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Speaker 2: This isn't the Bengals defense. Bengals defense. If it's like, hey,

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01:12:21,080 --> 01:12:24,600
Speaker 2: sign this one guy, chances are that's gonna lead to

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Speaker 2: disastrous results.

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Speaker 3: It's an overhaul.

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Speaker 2: You're looking for better players everywhere on the defense with

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Speaker 2: the Rats offense. One guy, so that's worth keeping in mind, right,

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Speaker 2: one guy. They got that guy. They got a guy

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Speaker 2: who fills a need. And I don't think any of

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01:12:50,000 --> 01:12:53,599
Speaker 2: us should overstate you know how good Gino is because

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01:12:53,640 --> 01:12:56,599
Speaker 2: we you don't have to look too deep to find

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01:12:56,680 --> 01:13:00,920
Speaker 2: the very significant warts and holes in his game. It's

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Speaker 2: probably more than one reason why this guy was still

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Speaker 2: available on February the first, but one of the reasons

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01:13:06,720 --> 01:13:13,360
Speaker 2: has to be age an offensive profile that doesn't exactly

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01:13:13,520 --> 01:13:15,559
Speaker 2: jump off the page if you look beyond the home

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Speaker 2: run column, and the fact that he's not a guy

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01:13:18,920 --> 01:13:22,880
Speaker 2: you want on the field with a glove, but he

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Speaker 2: does solve this one individual need, and so like now,

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Speaker 2: I don't think it's that hard to look at things

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01:13:30,160 --> 01:13:35,519
Speaker 2: from a more optimistic perspective. The production from the two

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Speaker 2: hole last season was close to the league worst. I

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Speaker 2: don't have them in front of me. It wouldn't take

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Speaker 2: that much to look. But I remember last year talking

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Speaker 2: about this in August and September, and Matt McClain was

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01:13:50,400 --> 01:13:52,800
Speaker 2: the primary culprit but for much of the season the

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01:13:52,880 --> 01:13:55,640
Speaker 2: Reds were like, you know, twenty ninth in ops from

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Speaker 2: the two spot, or twenty eighth in ops from the

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Speaker 2: two spot, like one of the very very worst in

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01:14:01,000 --> 01:14:05,840
Speaker 2: the league. That was too whole production. Ellie de la

1299
01:14:05,920 --> 01:14:09,120
Speaker 2: Cruz batted third much of the season last year. Now

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01:14:09,160 --> 01:14:11,320
Speaker 2: there were times he got moved down in September in

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01:14:11,320 --> 01:14:13,880
Speaker 2: the batting order, but he was, you know, the number

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01:14:13,920 --> 01:14:17,080
Speaker 2: three hitter, and I think everybody right or wrong wants

1303
01:14:17,120 --> 01:14:20,479
Speaker 2: him to bat third. In the second half of the season,

1304
01:14:20,960 --> 01:14:26,680
Speaker 2: Ellie dela Cruz provided very little offensively, the long home

1305
01:14:26,800 --> 01:14:31,400
Speaker 2: run drought, wasn't really getting on base aton. There were

1306
01:14:31,439 --> 01:14:36,280
Speaker 2: obviously defensive issues, but the Reds didn't get a lot

1307
01:14:36,400 --> 01:14:40,200
Speaker 2: from Ellie dela Cruz a relative to the way the

1308
01:14:40,240 --> 01:14:42,479
Speaker 2: team was built. Because the team was built around Elle

1309
01:14:42,560 --> 01:14:47,439
Speaker 2: being great and b the second half of the season

1310
01:14:47,680 --> 01:14:49,320
Speaker 2: was was hard to watch. It was hard to watch,

1311
01:14:49,360 --> 01:14:51,200
Speaker 2: and again might have been a good reason for it.

1312
01:14:51,320 --> 01:14:53,880
Speaker 2: He wasn't one hundred percent. There's no good reason for

1313
01:14:54,040 --> 01:14:58,680
Speaker 2: running him out there every single day. So you had

1314
01:14:58,880 --> 01:15:03,519
Speaker 2: bad too whole production. You had Elie de la Cruz

1315
01:15:03,600 --> 01:15:07,960
Speaker 2: not having a great year. You also had pretty poor

1316
01:15:08,160 --> 01:15:12,760
Speaker 2: cleanup hitter production. You had a team, and I think

1317
01:15:12,800 --> 01:15:15,680
Speaker 2: you would agree where it was really hard to identify

1318
01:15:15,760 --> 01:15:19,280
Speaker 2: who the cleanup hitter should be. Like you look at

1319
01:15:19,360 --> 01:15:23,280
Speaker 2: last year's team, I mean it was like Austin Hayes,

1320
01:15:23,520 --> 01:15:27,439
Speaker 2: maybe the Spencer Steer.

1321
01:15:28,120 --> 01:15:33,160
Speaker 3: Perhaps they didn't have a cleanup hitter.

1322
01:15:35,840 --> 01:15:41,560
Speaker 2: So like now, you could hold out hope realistically for

1323
01:15:42,400 --> 01:15:46,160
Speaker 2: a couple of different things. Number One, you've got a

1324
01:15:46,240 --> 01:15:50,519
Speaker 2: guy who, even if his production drops off from last year,

1325
01:15:51,680 --> 01:15:53,880
Speaker 2: it's still a pretty decent bet if he plays every

1326
01:15:53,960 --> 01:15:59,200
Speaker 2: day to hit thirty to thirty five home runs. Now,

1327
01:16:00,080 --> 01:16:03,360
Speaker 2: can you get league average production from the two hole?

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01:16:05,760 --> 01:16:08,640
Speaker 2: Can you get the Elie Dela Cruz that we have

1329
01:16:08,800 --> 01:16:13,120
Speaker 2: all been waiting for in the three spot? Can you

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01:16:13,280 --> 01:16:19,000
Speaker 2: get a breakout, full rookie season from Sal Stewart. You

1331
01:16:19,120 --> 01:16:21,920
Speaker 2: could argue the answer to each of those questions can

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01:16:22,080 --> 01:16:24,439
Speaker 2: be yes. It's not likely that the answer to all

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Speaker 2: of those questions will be yes. But I actually think

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01:16:28,280 --> 01:16:31,160
Speaker 2: that the floor for this offense last year wasn't that

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01:16:31,400 --> 01:16:35,200
Speaker 2: low again, fourteenth in the sport. They obviously went through

1336
01:16:35,240 --> 01:16:39,040
Speaker 2: stretches where they were below average, but they scored the

1337
01:16:39,040 --> 01:16:44,280
Speaker 2: fourteenth most amount of runs per game last season, I

1338
01:16:44,360 --> 01:16:46,360
Speaker 2: think it's still fair to conclude that the ceiling is

1339
01:16:46,400 --> 01:16:52,639
Speaker 2: pretty high. I might be a rose colored glasses Homer.

1340
01:16:52,680 --> 01:16:55,639
Speaker 2: I'm sure I'll be accused of that, But I think

1341
01:16:55,720 --> 01:16:59,240
Speaker 2: that's the fun part about what they've done. Not a

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01:16:59,560 --> 01:17:02,160
Speaker 2: twenty haven't the best offense at the bottom of the

1343
01:17:02,240 --> 01:17:05,560
Speaker 2: barrel offense. I took a league average offense and I

1344
01:17:05,760 --> 01:17:08,439
Speaker 2: added like the one thing they didn't have, and I

1345
01:17:08,520 --> 01:17:12,960
Speaker 2: know I keep coming back to that didn't feel like

1346
01:17:13,040 --> 01:17:18,519
Speaker 2: the ceiling is still reasonably high. Reasonably so would you

1347
01:17:18,600 --> 01:17:22,599
Speaker 2: be stunned if the two hole production was dramatically better,

1348
01:17:22,680 --> 01:17:26,080
Speaker 2: whether it's Noelve Marte or Matt McClain. Would you be

1349
01:17:26,240 --> 01:17:29,160
Speaker 2: floored if Elie de la Cruz had a bona fide

1350
01:17:29,240 --> 01:17:32,679
Speaker 2: All Star season? Would you be floored if the Uhaneo

1351
01:17:32,760 --> 01:17:35,720
Speaker 2: Suarez hid thirty five home runs? And would you be

1352
01:17:36,040 --> 01:17:38,760
Speaker 2: just completely shocked if salth Stewart ended up hitting like

1353
01:17:38,880 --> 01:17:41,720
Speaker 2: twenty five to thirty Like those are things that I

1354
01:17:41,800 --> 01:17:46,599
Speaker 2: think are reasonable to maybe not expect but hope will happen.

1355
01:17:48,160 --> 01:17:53,120
Speaker 2: And if they do, you're then trying to improve upon

1356
01:17:53,200 --> 01:17:56,560
Speaker 2: a place that last year wasn't as awful as we

1357
01:17:56,760 --> 01:18:01,080
Speaker 2: maybe have poor trade. We're not talking about the Reds

1358
01:18:01,160 --> 01:18:05,400
Speaker 2: digging out from you know, being a league worst offense.

1359
01:18:05,920 --> 01:18:09,839
Speaker 2: We're talking about the Reds improving upon a league average offense.

1360
01:18:10,880 --> 01:18:14,479
Speaker 2: That is not an awful place to begin. Your phone

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Speaker 2: calls are coming up. It's coming up on five o'clock.

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Speaker 2: you describe the Reds offseason amazing?

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Speaker 11: Not bad?

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Speaker 2: Men or week? I'll go a not bad sixty percent agree?

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Speaker 2: Vote now at Mulegar. I think I think there's room

1377
01:19:00,880 --> 01:19:03,360
Speaker 2: for multiple things. Phone calls coming up here in a bit.

1378
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Speaker 3: Plus.

1379
01:19:04,560 --> 01:19:08,400
Speaker 2: At Ron Harper, the greatest Miami Redskin because he was

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Speaker 2: a Redskin, the greatest Miami basketball player of all time,

1381
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Speaker 2: is going to join us in just about thirty minutes.

1382
01:19:14,360 --> 01:19:17,679
Speaker 2: He was on campus on Saturday to see Miami's twenty

1383
01:19:17,800 --> 01:19:21,240
Speaker 2: second consecutive victory to open the season. Cut his honorary

1384
01:19:21,320 --> 01:19:26,360
Speaker 2: degree as well. He also sells cigars, and you'll hear

1385
01:19:26,479 --> 01:19:29,160
Speaker 2: me see if I could weasel some cigars out of him.

1386
01:19:29,560 --> 01:19:32,280
Speaker 2: That's coming up in just about thirty minutes. There's room

1387
01:19:32,320 --> 01:19:34,519
Speaker 2: for multiple truths. We say this all the time. I

1388
01:19:34,640 --> 01:19:37,920
Speaker 2: keep saying that the Reds have addressed their biggest issue

1389
01:19:38,000 --> 01:19:39,640
Speaker 2: last season. They had a lot of them, right, but

1390
01:19:39,680 --> 01:19:43,400
Speaker 2: their biggest one, I think was striking lack of pop.

1391
01:19:43,880 --> 01:19:48,920
Speaker 2: Here's where having the DH helps. Not that anybody wants

1392
01:19:48,960 --> 01:19:53,120
Speaker 2: to have a DH conversation because you talk about water

1393
01:19:53,320 --> 01:19:55,439
Speaker 2: under the bridge. But this is the beauty of having

1394
01:19:55,520 --> 01:20:00,400
Speaker 2: the DH in the National League. You can address one

1395
01:20:00,439 --> 01:20:04,600
Speaker 2: of your biggest weaknesses and not make yourself worse in

1396
01:20:04,880 --> 01:20:08,519
Speaker 2: the in another area like this did happen last year.

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01:20:08,840 --> 01:20:09,840
Speaker 3: As much as.

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01:20:11,280 --> 01:20:14,639
Speaker 2: The key Brian Hayes acquisition was a little bit puzzling,

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01:20:15,479 --> 01:20:18,240
Speaker 2: and as much as watching him hit, especially in the

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01:20:18,320 --> 01:20:22,840
Speaker 2: postseason last year was deeply frustrating, they did need to

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01:20:22,880 --> 01:20:25,280
Speaker 2: get better. They needed to get overall better at run

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01:20:25,360 --> 01:20:30,400
Speaker 2: prevention key Brian Hayes did that. I still am not

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01:20:30,640 --> 01:20:33,439
Speaker 2: sure that you really want a guy playing a corner

1404
01:20:33,560 --> 01:20:38,240
Speaker 2: infield position who's an offensive zero. But you're a little

1405
01:20:38,280 --> 01:20:42,519
Speaker 2: bit more capable of withstanding a guy who can't hit

1406
01:20:42,960 --> 01:20:47,160
Speaker 2: playing third base for you, if your offense is upgraded elsewhere,

1407
01:20:48,400 --> 01:20:51,519
Speaker 2: having a guy who hit forty nine home runs upgrades

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01:20:51,600 --> 01:20:54,080
Speaker 2: the offense. And you know what I was talking about

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01:20:54,080 --> 01:20:56,320
Speaker 2: there before the top of the hour. It wasn't so

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01:20:56,439 --> 01:20:59,599
Speaker 2: much a knock on last year's team like it's it's

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01:20:59,640 --> 01:21:02,320
Speaker 2: a real election of maybe what one guy can possibly

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01:21:02,479 --> 01:21:06,519
Speaker 2: do on top of other things happening that must happen.

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01:21:07,360 --> 01:21:08,120
Speaker 3: The success of.

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01:21:08,120 --> 01:21:11,760
Speaker 2: The Reds this season is going to largely hinge on

1415
01:21:12,760 --> 01:21:15,760
Speaker 2: do players from last year's team before better? Are they

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01:21:15,840 --> 01:21:19,400
Speaker 2: more available? Do they put up better numbers? Can they

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01:21:19,520 --> 01:21:22,720
Speaker 2: stick in the big leagues. They can't have some of

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01:21:22,760 --> 01:21:25,519
Speaker 2: the things that happened last year happened this season. They

1419
01:21:25,600 --> 01:21:28,160
Speaker 2: can't earmark a guy to bat second and then have

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01:21:28,320 --> 01:21:31,800
Speaker 2: him not perform. They can't say, you know, our guy

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01:21:31,880 --> 01:21:35,200
Speaker 2: who's gonna play first base is and ends up being

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01:21:35,280 --> 01:21:37,280
Speaker 2: somebody who they send down by the end of June

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01:21:37,360 --> 01:21:41,560
Speaker 2: and has never heard from again, it can't be so

1424
01:21:41,760 --> 01:21:44,519
Speaker 2: painfully obvious that the trade deadline what they need to add,

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01:21:44,640 --> 01:21:50,400
Speaker 2: which was still offense, still a bat and with Miguel

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01:21:50,439 --> 01:21:54,240
Speaker 2: and hard they sort of did so like it. It

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01:21:54,360 --> 01:21:56,960
Speaker 2: feels like, well, just one guy, and just one guy

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01:21:57,000 --> 01:21:59,760
Speaker 2: who's not a huge average hitter. He's not gonna get on.

1429
01:22:01,400 --> 01:22:04,800
Speaker 2: Maybe there's some age concerns. I was just looking for

1430
01:22:04,880 --> 01:22:07,720
Speaker 2: one dude who helped fill this one area and then

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01:22:07,760 --> 01:22:09,720
Speaker 2: hopefully a lot of other cool stuff can happen around it,

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01:22:10,920 --> 01:22:14,240
Speaker 2: including Ellie de la Cruz staying healthy, being told no, occasionally,

1433
01:22:14,720 --> 01:22:16,880
Speaker 2: not dragging himself out there for one hundred and sixty

1434
01:22:16,920 --> 01:22:20,160
Speaker 2: two games, having more competitive at bats, but maybe getting

1435
01:22:20,200 --> 01:22:23,759
Speaker 2: you know, a few more days off, rediscovering his power stroke.

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01:22:24,120 --> 01:22:28,479
Speaker 2: Red's getting some on base improvement in the two spot.

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01:22:29,320 --> 01:22:33,400
Speaker 2: Like I think, there's reasons to be now a little

1438
01:22:33,439 --> 01:22:37,320
Speaker 2: bit more bullish than we felt yesterday. At the end

1439
01:22:37,360 --> 01:22:40,040
Speaker 2: of the day, this team's success will largely hinge on

1440
01:22:40,120 --> 01:22:42,960
Speaker 2: the success of its starting pitching and whether or not

1441
01:22:43,160 --> 01:22:46,200
Speaker 2: players who were here last year are better. But that

1442
01:22:46,320 --> 01:22:49,879
Speaker 2: doesn't mean there wasn't need for a thumper. A Uhaneo

1443
01:22:49,960 --> 01:22:55,639
Speaker 2: Soarez is still a thumper. Ten at for five ESPN

1444
01:22:55,720 --> 01:22:58,120
Speaker 2: fifteen thirty. Let's take a phone call or to Bob

1445
01:22:58,360 --> 01:23:01,559
Speaker 2: in Western Hills. You're on ESPN fifteen thirty. High Bob,

1446
01:23:01,600 --> 01:23:08,479
Speaker 2: how are you? Bob looks like sounds like he's in

1447
01:23:08,520 --> 01:23:10,080
Speaker 2: the middle of something. Bob, good afternoon.

1448
01:23:10,120 --> 01:23:10,479
Speaker 5: How are you?

1449
01:23:13,479 --> 01:23:16,080
Speaker 2: We try one more time, Bob, good afternoon, How are you.

1450
01:23:21,720 --> 01:23:27,760
Speaker 2: I deeply deeply appreciate anybody who gives even a few

1451
01:23:27,840 --> 01:23:31,880
Speaker 2: minutes of their time to this radio show, and deeply

1452
01:23:32,040 --> 01:23:35,040
Speaker 2: deeply appreciate anybody who feels compelled to pick up the

1453
01:23:35,120 --> 01:23:40,439
Speaker 2: phone and call it. We don't ask much, but when

1454
01:23:40,479 --> 01:23:44,960
Speaker 2: you do call it, just act like any second we

1455
01:23:45,040 --> 01:23:53,639
Speaker 2: could come to you. Five point three seven forty Bob

1456
01:23:53,800 --> 01:23:55,880
Speaker 2: was doing something and making a sandwich on and I

1457
01:23:56,040 --> 01:23:58,120
Speaker 2: cleaning out his car. I mean other guess wasn't doing that.

1458
01:23:58,360 --> 01:24:00,800
Speaker 2: And the cold temperatures we're getting right now. But Bob,

1459
01:24:01,000 --> 01:24:04,479
Speaker 2: just you know, you gotta gotta be ready. Could come

1460
01:24:04,520 --> 01:24:06,320
Speaker 2: to you at any second, could come to you at

1461
01:24:06,320 --> 01:24:13,679
Speaker 2: any moment. I also think, and this is a point

1462
01:24:13,720 --> 01:24:17,120
Speaker 2: we will double down on from last hour. It's one

1463
01:24:17,200 --> 01:24:19,760
Speaker 2: thing to address a weakness. It's one thing to to

1464
01:24:20,240 --> 01:24:25,160
Speaker 2: do something to fix an area of your team. But

1465
01:24:25,360 --> 01:24:30,479
Speaker 2: fixing an area of your team is even better when

1466
01:24:30,520 --> 01:24:35,519
Speaker 2: it doesn't cost you. What's most important, The Red spent

1467
01:24:35,720 --> 01:24:38,519
Speaker 2: fifteen million dollars for a Uhaneio Suarez to be on

1468
01:24:38,560 --> 01:24:43,240
Speaker 2: this year's team. That'll make him probably by the time

1469
01:24:43,640 --> 01:24:45,960
Speaker 2: things are said and done, right around the one hundred

1470
01:24:45,960 --> 01:24:50,320
Speaker 2: and fifteenth highest paid player in the sport relative bargain,

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01:24:51,520 --> 01:24:54,479
Speaker 2: and by the way, should not be one of the

1472
01:24:54,560 --> 01:24:57,920
Speaker 2: top I don't know thirty to forty highest paid players

1473
01:24:57,960 --> 01:24:59,800
Speaker 2: on the sport because of what he doesn't bring to

1474
01:24:59,800 --> 01:25:04,080
Speaker 2: the table. But it's one thing to fix an area

1475
01:25:04,240 --> 01:25:08,800
Speaker 2: of your team. It's something else entirely to be able

1476
01:25:08,840 --> 01:25:12,320
Speaker 2: to fix an area of your team or address an

1477
01:25:12,400 --> 01:25:15,000
Speaker 2: area of your team. Maybe fix isn't the right word.

1478
01:25:15,560 --> 01:25:20,479
Speaker 2: Address an area of your team without making another area

1479
01:25:20,560 --> 01:25:25,080
Speaker 2: of your team worse. This, I think is the most

1480
01:25:25,160 --> 01:25:31,240
Speaker 2: important part of the Auhanio Suarez conversation. They could have

1481
01:25:31,320 --> 01:25:35,880
Speaker 2: acquired Luis Robert that would have involved trading away assets,

1482
01:25:36,400 --> 01:25:42,599
Speaker 2: probably good valuable assets. This is why free agency is awesome.

1483
01:25:43,640 --> 01:25:47,320
Speaker 2: Free agency is awesome because you could add a player

1484
01:25:47,400 --> 01:25:50,960
Speaker 2: to your team that doesn't require you to give up

1485
01:25:51,760 --> 01:25:55,840
Speaker 2: on your one of your starting pitchers, a guy who

1486
01:25:55,920 --> 01:25:58,960
Speaker 2: helped you get to the postseason last year. You don't

1487
01:25:59,040 --> 01:26:02,120
Speaker 2: have to cut into your team's biggest strength in order

1488
01:26:02,200 --> 01:26:06,360
Speaker 2: to fortify a weakness. There's lots of things to like

1489
01:26:06,439 --> 01:26:09,479
Speaker 2: about this. Having a guy hit behind Elie Delacruz who

1490
01:26:09,520 --> 01:26:12,360
Speaker 2: can hit the ball out of the ballpark. That's on

1491
01:26:12,479 --> 01:26:15,160
Speaker 2: the list. Having a do that, you could say, Okay,

1492
01:26:15,320 --> 01:26:17,519
Speaker 2: there's the dh and now we don't have to use

1493
01:26:17,560 --> 01:26:19,679
Speaker 2: a guy at DAH who could really help the team

1494
01:26:19,720 --> 01:26:24,400
Speaker 2: with the glove. But more than anything, why this is

1495
01:26:24,479 --> 01:26:28,960
Speaker 2: awesome is all you had to spend was money, and

1496
01:26:29,240 --> 01:26:34,200
Speaker 2: comparatively speaking, not a ton of it either. All you

1497
01:26:34,320 --> 01:26:38,800
Speaker 2: had to spend was fifteen million dollars. If given a choice,

1498
01:26:38,960 --> 01:26:41,200
Speaker 2: you can give up fifteen million dollars to get a

1499
01:26:41,200 --> 01:26:46,280
Speaker 2: Eugenio Suarez or Nick Lodolo, to get someone else who's comparable,

1500
01:26:48,080 --> 01:26:51,880
Speaker 2: I'll write the check for fifteen million bucks. That's the

1501
01:26:51,920 --> 01:26:54,280
Speaker 2: best part of this. All you had to give up

1502
01:26:54,400 --> 01:26:57,840
Speaker 2: was money to make a part of your team that

1503
01:26:58,040 --> 01:27:03,479
Speaker 2: was severely lacking last year and better this year. That's great,

1504
01:27:04,840 --> 01:27:11,519
Speaker 2: That is absolutely great. I mean as once the Schwarber

1505
01:27:11,600 --> 01:27:13,800
Speaker 2: thing went down the way it did, I think there

1506
01:27:13,800 --> 01:27:15,680
Speaker 2: were a lot of us who were sort of resigned

1507
01:27:16,000 --> 01:27:19,800
Speaker 2: to the possibility or or maybe the likelihood that in

1508
01:27:19,920 --> 01:27:21,439
Speaker 2: order to make the team better it was going to

1509
01:27:21,520 --> 01:27:24,080
Speaker 2: cost something like how many times do we have that conversation?

1510
01:27:24,280 --> 01:27:27,000
Speaker 2: Right like, what would you be okay trading Andrew Rabbit

1511
01:27:27,040 --> 01:27:29,080
Speaker 2: after an All Star season? Would you be okay trading

1512
01:27:29,160 --> 01:27:33,120
Speaker 2: Chase Burns, which be okay trading you know, absolutely not?

1513
01:27:33,320 --> 01:27:39,760
Speaker 2: But Hunter Green, which be okay trading Nick Lodolo. They

1514
01:27:39,960 --> 01:27:43,120
Speaker 2: still have this part of their team that is whole

1515
01:27:43,280 --> 01:27:48,439
Speaker 2: and intact beyond Nick Martinez. Nobody has left from that

1516
01:27:48,640 --> 01:27:51,080
Speaker 2: part of their team that was a bona fide strength

1517
01:27:52,160 --> 01:27:54,519
Speaker 2: and they didn't have to cut into it to make

1518
01:27:54,560 --> 01:27:58,120
Speaker 2: the weakest part of the team better. That is the

1519
01:27:58,200 --> 01:28:02,320
Speaker 2: best part of this. In twenty minutes, my conversation with

1520
01:28:02,680 --> 01:28:05,960
Speaker 2: Ron Harper five three, seven, four, nine, fifteen thirty will

1521
01:28:06,000 --> 01:28:07,960
Speaker 2: work in you'll hear the reaction to our friend Jeff

1522
01:28:08,000 --> 01:28:13,479
Speaker 2: Carr locked on REDS Podcast next after five o'clock, This

1523
01:28:13,640 --> 01:28:16,960
Speaker 2: is ESPN fifteen thirty. You'll hear five time NBA champion

1524
01:28:17,080 --> 01:28:20,759
Speaker 2: Ron Harper on this show in just about fifteen minutes.

1525
01:28:20,800 --> 01:28:24,599
Speaker 2: Jeff Carr locked on Reds Podcast before yesterday or before

1526
01:28:24,840 --> 01:28:29,639
Speaker 2: before the Euhanio Suarez move was announced. Yesterday morning, let's

1527
01:28:29,680 --> 01:28:31,439
Speaker 2: say eight o'clock, you get out of bed and I

1528
01:28:31,560 --> 01:28:34,519
Speaker 2: ask you what grade would you give the Reds this offseason?

1529
01:28:34,520 --> 01:28:35,240
Speaker 2: You would have said, what.

1530
01:28:36,920 --> 01:28:40,840
Speaker 5: C minus? Because the bullpen's awesome, but they missed out

1531
01:28:40,880 --> 01:28:41,880
Speaker 5: on the biggest thing they need.

1532
01:28:43,400 --> 01:28:45,599
Speaker 2: Now, what's the grade the Reds offseason?

1533
01:28:46,560 --> 01:28:49,160
Speaker 5: Give him a B because I think that they addressed

1534
01:28:49,200 --> 01:28:51,840
Speaker 5: their biggest need. They probably didn't do it with like

1535
01:28:51,960 --> 01:28:54,519
Speaker 5: the best dude on the market, I mean best available

1536
01:28:54,600 --> 01:28:56,599
Speaker 5: right now. Yes, but it's not as if they went

1537
01:28:56,600 --> 01:28:59,400
Speaker 5: and they got college Forber. Although there are some things

1538
01:28:59,439 --> 01:29:01,040
Speaker 5: to say that a deal that they got for the

1539
01:29:01,080 --> 01:29:03,000
Speaker 5: guy that they have might be even better than what

1540
01:29:03,080 --> 01:29:05,519
Speaker 5: they would have had to get for Kyle Schwarber. So

1541
01:29:05,680 --> 01:29:08,360
Speaker 5: I give him a solid B because I still think

1542
01:29:08,400 --> 01:29:11,200
Speaker 5: you look at the outfield and you're like, Okay, there's

1543
01:29:11,200 --> 01:29:12,800
Speaker 5: a lot of hope out there. You got to you

1544
01:29:12,840 --> 01:29:16,120
Speaker 5: gotta work with some things out there. But the lineup

1545
01:29:16,280 --> 01:29:18,719
Speaker 5: is better than it was last year in my opinion.

1546
01:29:19,040 --> 01:29:21,479
Speaker 5: The pitching staff is better than it was in last

1547
01:29:21,520 --> 01:29:23,840
Speaker 5: year in my opinion. So I think that this team

1548
01:29:24,520 --> 01:29:27,880
Speaker 5: has currently constructed as a Division contender.

1549
01:29:28,760 --> 01:29:31,200
Speaker 2: Does this is this is my hope? My hope is

1550
01:29:31,360 --> 01:29:34,439
Speaker 2: this ends the era of not leaning in the home runs.

1551
01:29:34,840 --> 01:29:37,519
Speaker 2: Can I say that this signifies that they're going to

1552
01:29:37,560 --> 01:29:39,120
Speaker 2: start leaning back in the home runs?

1553
01:29:40,280 --> 01:29:43,320
Speaker 5: Yes, because they signed the guy that that is all

1554
01:29:43,600 --> 01:29:45,760
Speaker 5: he is supposed to do. Like, he's not coming here

1555
01:29:45,840 --> 01:29:48,040
Speaker 5: to be the third baseman. He's not coming here to

1556
01:29:48,080 --> 01:29:50,400
Speaker 5: be the first baseman. He's coming here to hit dingers.

1557
01:29:50,800 --> 01:29:56,439
Speaker 5: And that is exactly his role as currently constructed, because

1558
01:29:56,920 --> 01:29:59,759
Speaker 5: he comes in with an isolated power for his career.

1559
01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:03,720
Speaker 5: Isolated power being slugging percentage minus batting average, trying to

1560
01:30:04,280 --> 01:30:06,960
Speaker 5: you know, set aside the extra base hit potential for

1561
01:30:07,040 --> 01:30:09,799
Speaker 5: a guy his career number on that is two eighteen.

1562
01:30:10,000 --> 01:30:12,920
Speaker 5: There was no regular player in the Reds Atlantup last

1563
01:30:12,960 --> 01:30:15,920
Speaker 5: year over two hundred. The closest to that was Will Benson,

1564
01:30:16,000 --> 01:30:18,240
Speaker 5: But do we call him a regular player in this Atlanta?

1565
01:30:19,560 --> 01:30:21,800
Speaker 5: So he was. He was at two poh nine. Nobody

1566
01:30:21,840 --> 01:30:25,280
Speaker 5: else was above two hundred. They immediately upgraded their extra

1567
01:30:25,320 --> 01:30:26,200
Speaker 5: base hit potential.

1568
01:30:27,080 --> 01:30:30,679
Speaker 2: Some will point out, and perhaps accurately so, that yes,

1569
01:30:31,080 --> 01:30:33,879
Speaker 2: Gino hits a bunch of home runs, he also strikes

1570
01:30:33,920 --> 01:30:37,160
Speaker 2: out a lot and that while you have added more power,

1571
01:30:37,240 --> 01:30:41,360
Speaker 2: or at least power potential, you're also adding a lot

1572
01:30:41,439 --> 01:30:44,240
Speaker 2: more plate appearances that end with no contact being made

1573
01:30:44,280 --> 01:30:46,120
Speaker 2: for a team that already has a lot of guys

1574
01:30:46,680 --> 01:30:48,200
Speaker 2: who at times make no contact.

1575
01:30:48,240 --> 01:30:51,040
Speaker 5: What would you say to that, That's exactly what they

1576
01:30:51,040 --> 01:30:53,800
Speaker 5: would have added. How they signed Kyle Schwarber because both

1577
01:30:53,880 --> 01:30:58,160
Speaker 5: guys have the same fifth percentage, were swinging this percentage

1578
01:30:58,479 --> 01:31:01,400
Speaker 5: from last season of thirty three percent, and in fact,

1579
01:31:01,439 --> 01:31:03,840
Speaker 5: Kyle Schuber actually struck out one more time than au

1580
01:31:03,880 --> 01:31:04,880
Speaker 5: haane As farre As did.

1581
01:31:06,439 --> 01:31:10,760
Speaker 2: All right, there is there another move out there that

1582
01:31:10,960 --> 01:31:13,200
Speaker 2: was spring training looming here now in less than a week.

1583
01:31:13,840 --> 01:31:16,800
Speaker 2: Is there another move out there that fans should jump

1584
01:31:16,840 --> 01:31:19,360
Speaker 2: on the bandwagon and say, you know what, for the

1585
01:31:19,439 --> 01:31:21,880
Speaker 2: right price, which at this stage in the game is

1586
01:31:21,960 --> 01:31:25,200
Speaker 2: what you would be paying, adding this guy would make sense.

1587
01:31:26,640 --> 01:31:29,080
Speaker 5: In any free agent market, They don't think so, not

1588
01:31:29,240 --> 01:31:32,120
Speaker 5: without a trade to open up a spot, because it

1589
01:31:32,160 --> 01:31:34,360
Speaker 5: seems as though the Reds are going to enter camp

1590
01:31:34,400 --> 01:31:37,960
Speaker 5: for better or for worse with a position battle for

1591
01:31:38,040 --> 01:31:41,400
Speaker 5: the platoon of left field between JJ Bleda and Will Binson.

1592
01:31:41,720 --> 01:31:43,360
Speaker 5: If they could upgrade it, that would be good, But

1593
01:31:43,439 --> 01:31:46,880
Speaker 5: there isn't necessarily a just sure fire upgrade that is

1594
01:31:46,880 --> 01:31:49,040
Speaker 5: available on the market for the Reds at this point,

1595
01:31:49,520 --> 01:31:51,400
Speaker 5: and then you'll be talking about are they going to

1596
01:31:51,439 --> 01:31:53,479
Speaker 5: make a trade. There's a lot of rumors that have

1597
01:31:53,600 --> 01:31:56,160
Speaker 5: been shut down, like rumors early on in the off

1598
01:31:56,200 --> 01:31:59,360
Speaker 5: season of Catel Marte or Jared Duran that have since

1599
01:31:59,400 --> 01:32:02,360
Speaker 5: been shut down by both the Diamondbacks and the Red Sox.

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01:32:02,720 --> 01:32:03,479
Speaker 8: So I don't.

1601
01:32:03,600 --> 01:32:07,599
Speaker 5: Foresee any other move that really moves the needle for them.

1602
01:32:07,640 --> 01:32:10,320
Speaker 5: There could be, you know, those non roster invites, the

1603
01:32:10,360 --> 01:32:13,160
Speaker 5: spring training type deals, but nobody that. We're going to

1604
01:32:13,200 --> 01:32:15,760
Speaker 5: be doing another emergency podcast.

1605
01:32:15,479 --> 01:32:18,880
Speaker 2: For Jeff Carr locked on Red's podcast Emergency Podcast. Go

1606
01:32:19,040 --> 01:32:20,880
Speaker 2: watch or to listen to it. Did it last night.

1607
01:32:21,040 --> 01:32:23,160
Speaker 2: I think here's what I like most about the offseason.

1608
01:32:23,200 --> 01:32:25,400
Speaker 2: And I do wish the outfield was better, I will

1609
01:32:25,439 --> 01:32:30,720
Speaker 2: admit that. But they have addressed their biggest issue, and

1610
01:32:30,920 --> 01:32:34,320
Speaker 2: yet Hunter Green is still a Red, Nico Lodolo is

1611
01:32:34,360 --> 01:32:37,599
Speaker 2: still a Red, Andrew Abbotts still a Red, Chase Burns

1612
01:32:37,640 --> 01:32:38,200
Speaker 2: still a Red.

1613
01:32:38,520 --> 01:32:39,840
Speaker 3: Reet Louder is still a Red.

1614
01:32:41,280 --> 01:32:43,400
Speaker 2: They did what I think a lot of folks did

1615
01:32:43,520 --> 01:32:46,360
Speaker 2: not expect them to do, or didn't think they could do.

1616
01:32:46,560 --> 01:32:49,439
Speaker 2: They have made the team better, and we could debate

1617
01:32:49,560 --> 01:32:51,479
Speaker 2: how much better they're going to be, but they have

1618
01:32:51,760 --> 01:32:54,479
Speaker 2: made the team better and they haven't cut into their

1619
01:32:54,520 --> 01:32:55,160
Speaker 2: biggest strength.

1620
01:32:55,520 --> 01:32:59,000
Speaker 3: That is the biggest win of all, because that's what.

1621
01:32:59,080 --> 01:33:01,000
Speaker 5: We heard at the beginning the offseason. They were going

1622
01:33:01,080 --> 01:33:03,439
Speaker 5: to have to do right. Like you heard it from

1623
01:33:03,479 --> 01:33:05,639
Speaker 5: Mark Sheldon, heard it from multiple people as like, well,

1624
01:33:05,720 --> 01:33:07,640
Speaker 5: if they're going to upgrade the lineup, they have to

1625
01:33:07,720 --> 01:33:09,240
Speaker 5: trade one of those starting pitchers.

1626
01:33:09,280 --> 01:33:09,720
Speaker 6: They have to.

1627
01:33:10,000 --> 01:33:13,400
Speaker 5: There's no two bones about it. And yet they didn't.

1628
01:33:13,520 --> 01:33:16,360
Speaker 5: And they said the thing, and at least in Charlie

1629
01:33:16,360 --> 01:33:20,800
Speaker 5: Goldsmith's SUBSEAC article that he wrote about the signing of Suarez,

1630
01:33:21,320 --> 01:33:23,840
Speaker 5: they said the thing that none of us would have

1631
01:33:24,360 --> 01:33:26,840
Speaker 5: put money to. That they said. They said that there

1632
01:33:27,160 --> 01:33:30,160
Speaker 5: is no move that they have to make in order

1633
01:33:30,240 --> 01:33:33,760
Speaker 5: to financially explain this signing because they are going to

1634
01:33:33,880 --> 01:33:37,639
Speaker 5: spend the necessary dollars to bring in Suarez without damaging

1635
01:33:37,720 --> 01:33:39,679
Speaker 5: the rest of the roster, because they want to build

1636
01:33:40,280 --> 01:33:42,720
Speaker 5: a winner. And while I think some of us might

1637
01:33:42,800 --> 01:33:44,840
Speaker 5: snicker at that a little bit because they're like, well, now,

1638
01:33:45,280 --> 01:33:48,080
Speaker 5: now you're going to do that at least they're finally

1639
01:33:48,320 --> 01:33:51,080
Speaker 5: doing that, and it looks as if they're going to

1640
01:33:51,280 --> 01:33:53,160
Speaker 5: commit to twenty twenty six.

1641
01:33:54,080 --> 01:33:55,880
Speaker 2: You know what, I think I like beyond that more

1642
01:33:55,920 --> 01:33:58,880
Speaker 2: than anything, that we're not talking about them giving something

1643
01:33:58,960 --> 01:34:02,200
Speaker 2: up for Luise Robert. I was out on that from

1644
01:34:02,240 --> 01:34:04,599
Speaker 2: the beginning. And look at May. He may work out

1645
01:34:04,680 --> 01:34:07,200
Speaker 2: in New York. We'll see. He's got to stay healthy.

1646
01:34:07,320 --> 01:34:10,200
Speaker 2: That's obviously been an issue in Chicago. But I remember

1647
01:34:10,200 --> 01:34:12,479
Speaker 2: having a conversation with somebody four or five weeks ago

1648
01:34:12,479 --> 01:34:15,639
Speaker 2: where I'm like, look, Luis Robert or are u Haaneo Suarez.

1649
01:34:15,800 --> 01:34:18,560
Speaker 2: I will take d one dimensional Geno instead of the

1650
01:34:19,040 --> 01:34:21,000
Speaker 2: perhaps zero dimensional Luise Robert.

1651
01:34:21,080 --> 01:34:25,320
Speaker 5: Do you agree. In fact, the moment that the news

1652
01:34:25,400 --> 01:34:28,320
Speaker 5: was announced that Suarez was a Red Are Lockdown, White

1653
01:34:28,320 --> 01:34:30,280
Speaker 5: Sox host Todd Welter text to me and he said,

1654
01:34:30,360 --> 01:34:33,720
Speaker 5: eu Haanio Suarez is better than Luise Robert. So he

1655
01:34:33,840 --> 01:34:36,680
Speaker 5: even admits that, and he was the guy that had

1656
01:34:36,720 --> 01:34:39,800
Speaker 5: to watch Luis Robert for the part of his career

1657
01:34:39,880 --> 01:34:41,880
Speaker 5: that he was in Chicago. Now, so I am with

1658
01:34:42,040 --> 01:34:44,400
Speaker 5: you one hundred percent, and I think that the biggest

1659
01:34:44,479 --> 01:34:50,960
Speaker 5: it's between that could say that Luis Roberts a five

1660
01:34:51,080 --> 01:34:54,000
Speaker 5: tool player, you cannot say that he is able. You

1661
01:34:54,160 --> 01:34:57,120
Speaker 5: absolutely have no doubt about that with heu Haaneo Suarez

1662
01:34:57,120 --> 01:34:59,640
Speaker 5: because he's got several seasons in a row now of

1663
01:34:59,720 --> 01:35:02,000
Speaker 5: playing at least one hundred and fifty five ball games.

1664
01:35:02,520 --> 01:35:04,040
Speaker 3: You mentioned the left field battle.

1665
01:35:04,120 --> 01:35:06,559
Speaker 2: Beyond that, what is your biggest question about this team

1666
01:35:06,640 --> 01:35:07,639
Speaker 2: going into spring training?

1667
01:35:08,840 --> 01:35:12,280
Speaker 5: Who is Matt McClain. Is Matt McClain twenty twenty three,

1668
01:35:12,439 --> 01:35:15,240
Speaker 5: is Matt McLain twenty twenty five, or is he somewhere

1669
01:35:15,280 --> 01:35:18,040
Speaker 5: in between? What's that gonna be because that's going to

1670
01:35:18,160 --> 01:35:20,560
Speaker 5: raise the ceiling of this fall club even more so

1671
01:35:20,720 --> 01:35:23,559
Speaker 5: than the addition of au Haano Suarez, Because as much

1672
01:35:23,600 --> 01:35:27,080
Speaker 5: as we talked about the lineup needs protection for La

1673
01:35:27,160 --> 01:35:31,479
Speaker 5: de la Cruz, the lineup also got absolutely zilch out

1674
01:35:31,520 --> 01:35:33,880
Speaker 5: of the number two spot in this lineup. And while

1675
01:35:34,240 --> 01:35:37,200
Speaker 5: noelfe Marte is probably gonna be your opening day number

1676
01:35:37,280 --> 01:35:39,720
Speaker 5: two hitter and he's got a shot to really take

1677
01:35:39,760 --> 01:35:43,000
Speaker 5: control of that, I know what I saw from Matt

1678
01:35:43,040 --> 01:35:45,719
Speaker 5: McLain in twenty twenty three, and I know it wasn't

1679
01:35:45,800 --> 01:35:48,120
Speaker 5: what we saw from him in twenty twenty five. So

1680
01:35:48,280 --> 01:35:51,920
Speaker 5: if he comes back with more of twenty twenty five's

1681
01:35:52,040 --> 01:35:54,120
Speaker 5: version of Matt McClain, then I'm gonna have a lot

1682
01:35:54,160 --> 01:35:57,120
Speaker 5: more questions about this team moving forward than if the

1683
01:35:57,200 --> 01:36:00,120
Speaker 5: Reds had had gone and gotten you know, a u

1684
01:36:00,160 --> 01:36:03,320
Speaker 5: Haenio Suarez light instead of the man who we will

1685
01:36:03,320 --> 01:36:07,599
Speaker 5: see named Gino and il and Skala and goodbyes only.

1686
01:36:09,040 --> 01:36:11,679
Speaker 2: I like the fact that Tito acknowledge that Sal Stewart

1687
01:36:11,800 --> 01:36:13,640
Speaker 2: is going to have to make the team first. But

1688
01:36:13,760 --> 01:36:16,920
Speaker 2: I get excited over this possibility, and you know it,

1689
01:36:17,720 --> 01:36:20,200
Speaker 2: it might not be the most likely outcome. But if

1690
01:36:20,240 --> 01:36:23,280
Speaker 2: I could jot down in black magic marker, if he

1691
01:36:23,320 --> 01:36:26,960
Speaker 2: plays the entire season thirty to thirty five home runs

1692
01:36:27,000 --> 01:36:29,599
Speaker 2: from a Eugeneo Suarez, which would be down from forty

1693
01:36:29,680 --> 01:36:32,920
Speaker 2: nine last year. If I could somehow get thirty from

1694
01:36:33,000 --> 01:36:36,200
Speaker 2: Sal Stewart, which the dude did hit five in less

1695
01:36:36,200 --> 01:36:39,120
Speaker 2: than a month last year, maybe that's a little bit

1696
01:36:39,200 --> 01:36:40,960
Speaker 2: pie in the sky, But you could take a team

1697
01:36:41,000 --> 01:36:43,439
Speaker 2: that had such a hard time getting any pop, that

1698
01:36:43,600 --> 01:36:45,439
Speaker 2: hasn't had a guy hit thirty home runs in the

1699
01:36:45,520 --> 01:36:49,560
Speaker 2: season since Gino did it. If I can, in the

1700
01:36:49,600 --> 01:36:52,479
Speaker 2: course of one season have an offense that just with

1701
01:36:52,680 --> 01:36:55,120
Speaker 2: those two guys, not to mention what you might be

1702
01:36:55,160 --> 01:36:57,639
Speaker 2: able to get from a healthy Elie de la Cruz.

1703
01:36:58,120 --> 01:37:00,880
Speaker 2: Suddenly I've gone from a team that had no power

1704
01:37:01,000 --> 01:37:04,080
Speaker 2: threat to one that now might have an overabundance of

1705
01:37:04,160 --> 01:37:07,000
Speaker 2: power threast straft right end.

1706
01:37:07,040 --> 01:37:10,200
Speaker 5: Know that is just causing damage left and right. I

1707
01:37:10,280 --> 01:37:13,000
Speaker 5: felt like the narrative and kind of like you said,

1708
01:37:13,080 --> 01:37:16,240
Speaker 5: You're like, they're finally committing to power because the narrative

1709
01:37:16,320 --> 01:37:18,040
Speaker 5: of well, they've got to bill rally, so they got

1710
01:37:18,120 --> 01:37:20,960
Speaker 5: a string hits together, which is explaining how a bad

1711
01:37:21,040 --> 01:37:24,680
Speaker 5: offense these less bad, or it is less bad. So

1712
01:37:25,160 --> 01:37:28,679
Speaker 5: I really like to see that jump forward and south

1713
01:37:28,760 --> 01:37:30,640
Speaker 5: Stewart to your point, I mean, I think there's a

1714
01:37:30,720 --> 01:37:33,920
Speaker 5: lot of folks around the country who evaluate minor league

1715
01:37:34,000 --> 01:37:37,440
Speaker 5: talent that would say, we're not that far off expecting

1716
01:37:37,479 --> 01:37:40,160
Speaker 5: the numbers that we're expecting from him, because he was

1717
01:37:40,240 --> 01:37:42,519
Speaker 5: one of the very few guys in all of minor

1718
01:37:42,600 --> 01:37:45,479
Speaker 5: league baseball the last couple of years to average really

1719
01:37:45,560 --> 01:37:49,320
Speaker 5: high quality of contact and really low strikeout rates to

1720
01:37:49,880 --> 01:37:51,560
Speaker 5: be called up to the major leagues. I think that

1721
01:37:51,640 --> 01:37:54,280
Speaker 5: we'll see a lot more from sal I think he's

1722
01:37:54,320 --> 01:37:56,680
Speaker 5: going to be on this opening day roster. I appreciate it.

1723
01:37:56,720 --> 01:37:59,280
Speaker 5: Like you said, they're not handing it to him, but

1724
01:37:59,479 --> 01:38:01,840
Speaker 5: I think it's going to be Claire that he earns it,

1725
01:38:02,360 --> 01:38:04,880
Speaker 5: especially given the alternative. I mean, are we really thinking

1726
01:38:04,960 --> 01:38:07,519
Speaker 5: that Cees is going to take his seat back on

1727
01:38:07,600 --> 01:38:10,719
Speaker 5: this bench? I doubt that. I think that South Stewart's

1728
01:38:10,720 --> 01:38:13,400
Speaker 5: going to win this thing, clear and a far and

1729
01:38:13,400 --> 01:38:15,800
Speaker 5: away very quickly into spring trading.

1730
01:38:16,000 --> 01:38:19,519
Speaker 2: Stringing hits together is inefficient. Three hits for one run

1731
01:38:19,600 --> 01:38:22,560
Speaker 2: doesn't work. One hit for one run works, and so

1732
01:38:22,720 --> 01:38:24,920
Speaker 2: I like home runs, awesome stuff as always, Man.

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01:38:24,840 --> 01:38:27,720
Speaker 5: Thanks so much, We thanks for having man go Rid,

1734
01:38:27,840 --> 01:38:28,240
Speaker 5: you got it.

1735
01:38:28,320 --> 01:38:28,880
Speaker 3: There's our guy.

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Speaker 3: I go a bee? I go, I'll give him a bee.

1739
01:38:36,400 --> 01:38:39,960
Speaker 2: It's boosted, so to speak, because in order to get

1740
01:38:40,000 --> 01:38:42,680
Speaker 2: Eugenio Suarez, in order to get a home run guy,

1741
01:38:43,720 --> 01:38:46,479
Speaker 2: they didn't have to give up anything like that. Ain't

1742
01:38:46,520 --> 01:38:51,599
Speaker 2: my fifteen million bucks? Could not care less. I'd rather

1743
01:38:51,640 --> 01:38:55,120
Speaker 2: give up fifteen million bucks than Nicolodolo. I care more

1744
01:38:55,120 --> 01:38:58,719
Speaker 2: about Nickolodolo than the Castellini's family. Castellini family is fifteen

1745
01:38:58,760 --> 01:39:04,479
Speaker 2: million bucks. On Saturday, Miami won their twenty second consecutive game.

1746
01:39:04,520 --> 01:39:07,719
Speaker 2: They had a sold out Mallett Hall blew out Northern Illinois,

1747
01:39:08,360 --> 01:39:12,080
Speaker 2: and the all time leading scorer and Miami University was

1748
01:39:12,160 --> 01:39:15,360
Speaker 2: in attendance to get an honorary degree. And in the

1749
01:39:15,400 --> 01:39:17,240
Speaker 2: middle of all that, I had a chance to talk

1750
01:39:17,280 --> 01:39:19,920
Speaker 2: to Ron Harper, the five time NBA champion.

1751
01:39:20,000 --> 01:39:21,880
Speaker 3: You'll hear my conversation with him next.

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Speaker 2: number of reports, one year deal mutual option for twenty

1770
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Speaker 2: twenty seven will make fifteen million bucks this year. Miami

1771
01:40:29,400 --> 01:40:32,519
Speaker 2: RedHawks up to twenty thirty in the latest AP Top

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Speaker 2: ESPN fifteen thirty as well. Speaking of the RedHawks, they

1777
01:40:50,240 --> 01:40:54,519
Speaker 2: beat Northern Illinois on Saturday at sold out Mallett Hall.

1778
01:40:55,400 --> 01:40:57,960
Speaker 2: You might look at the score and go wow, the

1779
01:40:58,040 --> 01:41:01,240
Speaker 2: RedHawks blow them out one by twenty four. They were

1780
01:41:01,360 --> 01:41:04,519
Speaker 2: trailing with fifteen minutes to go, and then it was

1781
01:41:04,640 --> 01:41:07,360
Speaker 2: like they flipped a switch and they went on this

1782
01:41:07,600 --> 01:41:11,080
Speaker 2: like instantaneous thirty eight to nine run. That was something

1783
01:41:11,160 --> 01:41:14,799
Speaker 2: to behold in attendance for it. The greatest Miami University

1784
01:41:14,880 --> 01:41:18,240
Speaker 2: basketball player of all time who got an honorary degree

1785
01:41:19,200 --> 01:41:23,080
Speaker 2: during ceremonies at Malett Hall, and this was really cool.

1786
01:41:23,200 --> 01:41:26,479
Speaker 2: I'll pull back the curtain here briefly. Ron Harper obviously

1787
01:41:26,560 --> 01:41:29,280
Speaker 2: had a legendary career at Miami went on to an

1788
01:41:29,360 --> 01:41:32,360
Speaker 2: NBA career where he played parts of fifteen seasons and

1789
01:41:32,479 --> 01:41:36,760
Speaker 2: won five championship rings. And so I had reached out

1790
01:41:36,840 --> 01:41:38,880
Speaker 2: and said, like, hey, can we get Ron Harper on?

1791
01:41:39,080 --> 01:41:42,240
Speaker 2: And I didn't have the ability to go to the

1792
01:41:42,320 --> 01:41:45,280
Speaker 2: game in Oxford on Saturday, and the folks at Miami

1793
01:41:45,360 --> 01:41:47,040
Speaker 2: figured out a way for us to talk to Ron.

1794
01:41:47,200 --> 01:41:50,919
Speaker 2: So the interview you're about to listen to I recorded

1795
01:41:50,960 --> 01:41:54,880
Speaker 2: it early Saturday afternoon, right before Ron went to the

1796
01:41:55,080 --> 01:41:58,080
Speaker 2: Miami game, and I started by asking him and getting

1797
01:41:58,160 --> 01:42:01,160
Speaker 2: him to talk about not just being honored by his

1798
01:42:01,320 --> 01:42:04,960
Speaker 2: alma mater, but coming back to Oxford and being a

1799
01:42:05,000 --> 01:42:07,880
Speaker 2: part of his ceremony. During what has been an unbelievable

1800
01:42:07,960 --> 01:42:10,080
Speaker 2: season for the RedHawks.

1801
01:42:11,400 --> 01:42:16,240
Speaker 6: Miami basketball is back where it deserves to be back.

1802
01:42:17,520 --> 01:42:20,960
Speaker 6: Travis Steel and his staff is doing a wonderful job

1803
01:42:21,720 --> 01:42:25,559
Speaker 6: with the players that they have, and the players are

1804
01:42:25,640 --> 01:42:28,840
Speaker 6: giving him everything, and he allowed them to play really

1805
01:42:28,920 --> 01:42:29,720
Speaker 6: good basketball.

1806
01:42:30,280 --> 01:42:33,200
Speaker 2: I know from following you on Twitter. You tweet about

1807
01:42:33,200 --> 01:42:35,800
Speaker 2: the Red Hawks a lot. How closely have you had

1808
01:42:35,800 --> 01:42:36,960
Speaker 2: a chance to follow the program?

1809
01:42:37,360 --> 01:42:41,679
Speaker 6: I tend to watch the boys and the girls team play.

1810
01:42:42,520 --> 01:42:47,200
Speaker 6: I'm you know, I'm always always got my you know, iPad,

1811
01:42:47,439 --> 01:42:51,800
Speaker 6: got my ESPN Plus, So I try to watch as

1812
01:42:51,920 --> 01:42:54,920
Speaker 6: little much as possible as long as my kids don't

1813
01:42:54,960 --> 01:42:57,360
Speaker 6: have a ball game. And then my kids do have

1814
01:42:57,439 --> 01:43:01,280
Speaker 6: a ball game. I got the iPad, she the heel phone,

1815
01:43:01,880 --> 01:43:04,920
Speaker 6: I got everything on. I'm trying to watch all the games.

1816
01:43:05,200 --> 01:43:08,120
Speaker 2: Have you you mentioned Travis Steele, who obviously is doing

1817
01:43:08,160 --> 01:43:10,720
Speaker 2: an awesome job in Oxford. Have you had a chance

1818
01:43:10,800 --> 01:43:11,639
Speaker 2: to get to know him at all?

1819
01:43:12,960 --> 01:43:15,719
Speaker 6: Uh No, I know a little bit about his career.

1820
01:43:15,840 --> 01:43:19,599
Speaker 6: I know he coached that behavior before he came here,

1821
01:43:20,240 --> 01:43:24,000
Speaker 6: and he was doing a great job over there, and

1822
01:43:24,160 --> 01:43:27,040
Speaker 6: we were very fortunate enough to him here.

1823
01:43:27,439 --> 01:43:30,360
Speaker 2: When you think back to your career right at Miami,

1824
01:43:30,560 --> 01:43:33,360
Speaker 2: which is obviously legendary, you know, you guys were in

1825
01:43:33,400 --> 01:43:36,240
Speaker 2: the tournament three years you lost. I remember when you

1826
01:43:36,360 --> 01:43:39,040
Speaker 2: lost to Maryland and Len Bias as a kid, I

1827
01:43:39,160 --> 01:43:42,759
Speaker 2: remember two overtime losses. When you think of your career

1828
01:43:42,840 --> 01:43:46,040
Speaker 2: as a Miami Redskin back in the day, what things

1829
01:43:46,080 --> 01:43:46,599
Speaker 2: come to mind?

1830
01:43:48,160 --> 01:43:53,320
Speaker 6: H I'm always gonna be a risk in Uh. I

1831
01:43:53,520 --> 01:43:56,280
Speaker 6: was very I was very fortunate to come to a

1832
01:43:56,600 --> 01:43:59,439
Speaker 6: great place who have a lot of great player like

1833
01:43:59,640 --> 01:44:04,120
Speaker 6: Randy Emory's all the guys who play here before me,

1834
01:44:05,040 --> 01:44:08,400
Speaker 6: And it was an honor to put on that ersen

1835
01:44:08,600 --> 01:44:13,360
Speaker 6: to represent a small mid aser and I'm pretty sure

1836
01:44:13,400 --> 01:44:15,560
Speaker 6: that I as far as some kids to be a

1837
01:44:15,760 --> 01:44:17,840
Speaker 6: part of this, and I'm very happy to be a

1838
01:44:17,880 --> 01:44:18,320
Speaker 6: part of it.

1839
01:44:18,560 --> 01:44:22,040
Speaker 2: Obviously, coming from Dayton to Miami, right, That's that had

1840
01:44:22,200 --> 01:44:25,479
Speaker 2: long been a pipeline to Miami University. When you came

1841
01:44:25,560 --> 01:44:27,560
Speaker 2: to Oxford, the head coach was Daryl Hedrick. What do

1842
01:44:27,640 --> 01:44:29,719
Speaker 2: you remember about your recruitment to Miami, Uh.

1843
01:44:30,120 --> 01:44:34,880
Speaker 6: Daryl Hendrick, Jerry Pearson's they was at my high school

1844
01:44:34,920 --> 01:44:39,640
Speaker 6: more than me. Every time I down the hallway, they

1845
01:44:39,800 --> 01:44:41,760
Speaker 6: was there. I'm like, what are y'all back for? I

1846
01:44:41,920 --> 01:44:44,400
Speaker 6: just saw y'all like two days ago. We just want

1847
01:44:44,439 --> 01:44:46,760
Speaker 6: to be sure you coming here. I'm like, Jesus, you

1848
01:44:46,800 --> 01:44:50,040
Speaker 6: don't have to keep coming. The most important thing that

1849
01:44:50,120 --> 01:44:52,560
Speaker 6: they ever did was the correct thing was there was

1850
01:44:52,760 --> 01:44:57,000
Speaker 6: a big part of my mother. She she loved RL

1851
01:44:57,080 --> 01:45:01,519
Speaker 6: and Jerry Neill and Joe Harry And Uh, it was

1852
01:45:01,640 --> 01:45:06,559
Speaker 6: in her heart that I've come to my Emmy of Ohio.

1853
01:45:07,120 --> 01:45:10,559
Speaker 6: And it was an awesome place because it gave her

1854
01:45:10,600 --> 01:45:12,559
Speaker 6: a chance to come see every home game.

1855
01:45:12,720 --> 01:45:12,880
Speaker 8: Man.

1856
01:45:13,040 --> 01:45:15,920
Speaker 6: Uh, and I'm a I'm a big fan of that.

1857
01:45:16,040 --> 01:45:19,000
Speaker 6: See him seeing my other and them at the basketball games.

1858
01:45:19,240 --> 01:45:21,919
Speaker 2: Have you ever thought you did quite well for yourself

1859
01:45:22,080 --> 01:45:25,280
Speaker 2: as a pro in life after basketball? But in this

1860
01:45:25,479 --> 01:45:27,920
Speaker 2: day and age of n I L and revenue sharing,

1861
01:45:28,360 --> 01:45:30,519
Speaker 2: have you ever thought about what Ron Harper is a

1862
01:45:30,560 --> 01:45:31,639
Speaker 2: college basketball player?

1863
01:45:31,680 --> 01:45:32,880
Speaker 4: What kind of coin you could have brought in?

1864
01:45:33,320 --> 01:45:33,559
Speaker 2: Man?

1865
01:45:33,800 --> 01:45:38,000
Speaker 6: You know what, I have a young kid. I got

1866
01:45:38,080 --> 01:45:42,360
Speaker 6: my oldest son. He made probably one point two or

1867
01:45:42,400 --> 01:45:46,160
Speaker 6: three in his fresdman year. So if people have made

1868
01:45:46,200 --> 01:45:48,599
Speaker 6: one point three, I think I would have been worth eight.

1869
01:45:50,840 --> 01:45:53,160
Speaker 6: I couldn't I know.

1870
01:45:53,960 --> 01:45:57,120
Speaker 3: I think you're selling yourself short now, you know what?

1871
01:45:57,280 --> 01:45:59,800
Speaker 6: Do you know what though? You know it kind of

1872
01:46:00,120 --> 01:46:03,599
Speaker 6: ruin the college experience for these kids, because it don't

1873
01:46:03,800 --> 01:46:08,160
Speaker 6: it don't teach you how to survive, how to work hard,

1874
01:46:08,760 --> 01:46:12,280
Speaker 6: how to stay humble. You know, we prayed for the

1875
01:46:12,360 --> 01:46:15,639
Speaker 6: love of the ball game. We don't play for the cast,

1876
01:46:15,880 --> 01:46:18,000
Speaker 6: don't I don't think I ever worry about the cast

1877
01:46:18,080 --> 01:46:20,760
Speaker 6: I made in the NBA. I don't think I made

1878
01:46:20,920 --> 01:46:23,880
Speaker 6: I made the cash, but I don't think I ever

1879
01:46:24,000 --> 01:46:26,800
Speaker 6: worry about the cast aspect. I played for the lover

1880
01:46:26,920 --> 01:46:30,120
Speaker 6: of the ball game and to have an opportunity to

1881
01:46:30,200 --> 01:46:33,719
Speaker 6: play on some great basketball teams that really care about

1882
01:46:33,800 --> 01:46:36,479
Speaker 6: trying to be the best basketball team, and that's all

1883
01:46:36,520 --> 01:46:37,040
Speaker 6: we try to do.

1884
01:46:38,240 --> 01:46:41,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you know, look that the players today

1885
01:46:42,000 --> 01:46:45,320
Speaker 2: have options, and good for them, but I wonder, you know,

1886
01:46:45,479 --> 01:46:49,080
Speaker 2: somebody like yourself, all the records you said, still Miami's

1887
01:46:49,200 --> 01:46:52,200
Speaker 2: you know, all time leading scorer, iconic four year career,

1888
01:46:52,800 --> 01:46:56,000
Speaker 2: a beloved member of the Miami University community. And I

1889
01:46:56,360 --> 01:46:59,240
Speaker 2: just I wonder how many Ron Harper's that are going

1890
01:46:59,280 --> 01:47:02,280
Speaker 2: to be moving forward or just because players and they

1891
01:47:02,320 --> 01:47:04,000
Speaker 2: have the freedom to move in good for them, but

1892
01:47:04,600 --> 01:47:07,120
Speaker 2: not gonna have guys sticking with one program the way

1893
01:47:07,160 --> 01:47:10,120
Speaker 2: you did. And I think college basketball itself has lost

1894
01:47:10,160 --> 01:47:10,880
Speaker 2: something because of that.

1895
01:47:11,120 --> 01:47:16,160
Speaker 6: Every sport has, because when you grow with one when

1896
01:47:16,160 --> 01:47:19,080
Speaker 6: you grow with one program and you get a chance

1897
01:47:19,160 --> 01:47:21,640
Speaker 6: to be a part of the environment, tend to be

1898
01:47:21,680 --> 01:47:25,360
Speaker 6: a part of the community. It means more than the

1899
01:47:25,479 --> 01:47:28,719
Speaker 6: cast that you can make. I had an opportunity play

1900
01:47:28,760 --> 01:47:31,840
Speaker 6: at os Ohio, a small town, work with the kids

1901
01:47:31,920 --> 01:47:35,960
Speaker 6: at the high school and elementary kids, and just to

1902
01:47:36,040 --> 01:47:37,240
Speaker 6: be a part of the community.

1903
01:47:37,800 --> 01:47:39,000
Speaker 4: They don't have that these days.

1904
01:47:40,600 --> 01:47:43,439
Speaker 2: You mentioned watching your sons, which has to be awesome.

1905
01:47:43,800 --> 01:47:47,479
Speaker 2: They're gonna be in the Rising Stars event on opposite teams,

1906
01:47:47,680 --> 01:47:49,639
Speaker 2: but they're gonna both be a part of the same event.

1907
01:47:50,360 --> 01:47:52,040
Speaker 2: Can you even imagine what it's going to be like

1908
01:47:52,160 --> 01:47:54,439
Speaker 2: to watch To watch Dylan and Ron Junior playing that.

1909
01:47:56,120 --> 01:48:00,120
Speaker 6: It's gonna be all stilling to I want him to

1910
01:48:00,160 --> 01:48:03,360
Speaker 6: guard him in the guard him. So it reminded me

1911
01:48:03,640 --> 01:48:06,960
Speaker 6: back in the driveway when I did to tell Ron Jr.

1912
01:48:07,360 --> 01:48:11,120
Speaker 6: When it'll get fourteen, he gonna be hard y'all cain't

1913
01:48:11,160 --> 01:48:12,519
Speaker 6: gonna do the thing y'all did him when he was

1914
01:48:12,560 --> 01:48:15,920
Speaker 6: a small kid. So it's gonna be a little revenge game.

1915
01:48:16,000 --> 01:48:19,439
Speaker 3: I think, Yeah, that's gonna be fun to watch. It's

1916
01:48:19,439 --> 01:48:20,280
Speaker 3: gonna be fun to watch.

1917
01:48:20,320 --> 01:48:21,479
Speaker 2: I can't imagine how.

1918
01:48:24,240 --> 01:48:26,360
Speaker 6: It's gonna be awesome. Man, it's gonna be fun to see.

1919
01:48:26,800 --> 01:48:29,439
Speaker 2: One more question, because I do follow you on social media.

1920
01:48:30,200 --> 01:48:32,519
Speaker 2: I want your cigars, but I click on the link

1921
01:48:32,560 --> 01:48:34,000
Speaker 2: and says they're out of stock. How do I get

1922
01:48:34,040 --> 01:48:36,559
Speaker 2: some underrated Ron Harper by Luciano cigars?

1923
01:48:36,680 --> 01:48:39,280
Speaker 6: You know what? You know what you gotta kick at

1924
01:48:39,320 --> 01:48:44,000
Speaker 6: the right time, I can tell you that cigar. You

1925
01:48:44,080 --> 01:48:48,200
Speaker 6: know what? You know I actually got involved two years

1926
01:48:48,200 --> 01:48:51,360
Speaker 6: ago with him and Lucy Anold is a great guy.

1927
01:48:51,479 --> 01:48:54,839
Speaker 6: He's a ciguard guy. He rollses all and he knows everything.

1928
01:48:55,040 --> 01:48:58,479
Speaker 6: And uh, we just talked about doing a cigar. You know,

1929
01:48:58,640 --> 01:49:00,200
Speaker 6: in the first day you tell me was I don't

1930
01:49:00,280 --> 01:49:03,240
Speaker 6: want to do a celebrity cigar. I'm not a sublety.

1931
01:49:03,360 --> 01:49:06,720
Speaker 6: I smoked cigars. So we talked about it, and you know,

1932
01:49:07,160 --> 01:49:09,280
Speaker 6: I said, I said, I'm gonna give you a perfect

1933
01:49:09,720 --> 01:49:12,519
Speaker 6: hey for this cigar. You're like, if you gave me

1934
01:49:12,600 --> 01:49:14,599
Speaker 6: a great name, you canna be a part of I said,

1935
01:49:14,600 --> 01:49:18,639
Speaker 6: we're gonna call it under Rated. I'm from day Nohow

1936
01:49:18,960 --> 01:49:22,639
Speaker 6: with the Miami of Ohio, my all school it's supposed

1937
01:49:22,640 --> 01:49:26,360
Speaker 6: to be in the NBA. Had a pretty good NBA career,

1938
01:49:26,880 --> 01:49:28,840
Speaker 6: never made the All Star Team, never made it All

1939
01:49:28,960 --> 01:49:32,240
Speaker 6: Defense of team. But I'm still here and everybody knows me.

1940
01:49:33,000 --> 01:49:35,680
Speaker 6: So that's how we came up with that name.

1941
01:49:35,880 --> 01:49:38,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, you gotta you gotta read. First of all,

1942
01:49:38,160 --> 01:49:40,720
Speaker 2: I had more than an okay NBA career, but you

1943
01:49:41,120 --> 01:49:43,680
Speaker 2: you need to restock the cigars so so I can

1944
01:49:43,760 --> 01:49:46,280
Speaker 2: get one, because I'm a huge cigar guy. So it

1945
01:49:46,400 --> 01:49:48,840
Speaker 2: pequed my interest when I saw it on your social

1946
01:49:48,880 --> 01:49:51,040
Speaker 2: media and then I clicked on it. It's like out

1947
01:49:51,080 --> 01:49:53,600
Speaker 2: of stock, unavailable. So I wanted to talk to you

1948
01:49:53,680 --> 01:49:55,640
Speaker 2: for a thousand different reasons. One of them was I

1949
01:49:55,720 --> 01:49:57,599
Speaker 2: need you to reload so I can try these cigars.

1950
01:50:00,000 --> 01:50:03,720
Speaker 6: Hey, so do what I want to do. Go to

1951
01:50:03,920 --> 01:50:08,120
Speaker 6: my go to my page and be heal me your

1952
01:50:08,240 --> 01:50:10,120
Speaker 6: address and I'm making sure you've done this.

1953
01:50:10,240 --> 01:50:13,439
Speaker 2: Thuff Ron Heopper's gonna send me cigars, dude.

1954
01:50:13,720 --> 01:50:14,240
Speaker 5: Heck yeah.

1955
01:50:15,960 --> 01:50:18,200
Speaker 2: I can't thank you enough for doing this. Awesome that

1956
01:50:18,520 --> 01:50:20,800
Speaker 2: you get your honorary degree and in the middle of

1957
01:50:20,840 --> 01:50:23,479
Speaker 2: a great season for the RedHawks makes it even cooler.

1958
01:50:23,600 --> 01:50:25,120
Speaker 2: I can't thank you enough for doing this. Thanks for

1959
01:50:25,200 --> 01:50:27,719
Speaker 2: carving at some time. Enjoy the day, Ron, Thanks so much.

1960
01:50:28,160 --> 01:50:29,760
Speaker 6: Think very much. You got it. There you go.

1961
01:50:29,920 --> 01:50:33,040
Speaker 2: Ron Harper, five time NBA champion, all time leading scorer

1962
01:50:33,040 --> 01:50:35,040
Speaker 2: at Miami University, and a guy is gonna send me

1963
01:50:35,080 --> 01:50:36,080
Speaker 2: some of his own cigars.

1964
01:50:37,120 --> 01:50:38,599
Speaker 3: Like that's that's a win right there.

1965
01:50:38,800 --> 01:50:42,280
Speaker 2: That's that's why on a Saturday you do an interview

1966
01:50:43,080 --> 01:50:45,400
Speaker 2: to talk to Ron Harper and get some some free

1967
01:50:45,479 --> 01:50:47,599
Speaker 2: cigars out of it. I don't know that I'm gonna

1968
01:50:47,640 --> 01:50:50,599
Speaker 2: slide into his DMS number one. I'm not a big

1969
01:50:50,720 --> 01:50:54,600
Speaker 2: DM guy. Number two. Does Ron Harper really want me

1970
01:50:54,640 --> 01:50:57,880
Speaker 2: to slide into his DMS? I don't know, but I

1971
01:50:57,960 --> 01:50:59,840
Speaker 2: really want some of those cigars and do it.

1972
01:51:00,040 --> 01:51:01,439
Speaker 3: All right, I'll do it. I'll slide in.

1973
01:51:01,600 --> 01:51:03,760
Speaker 2: Tomorrow in the show, Paul Danner Junior is going to

1974
01:51:03,840 --> 01:51:08,880
Speaker 2: join us, our buddy Stewart W. Penrose from the Manila

1975
01:51:08,920 --> 01:51:11,200
Speaker 2: Law Group, and a whole bunch of sports legal issues

1976
01:51:11,800 --> 01:51:14,920
Speaker 2: and my conversation with a gene sterotor that's going to

1977
01:51:15,000 --> 01:51:18,080
Speaker 2: run in the five o'clock hour. We might have one

1978
01:51:18,200 --> 01:51:22,400
Speaker 2: more pseudo big name guest as well. Anything you might

1979
01:51:22,520 --> 01:51:24,680
Speaker 2: miss go find on the iHeartRadio app. Podcasts of this

1980
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Speaker 2: show are a service of long Nex Sports Grill. Go

1981
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Speaker 2: for a beer at long Next. Right now, have an

1982
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Speaker 2: awesome night, Thank you for listening. Thanks to Tarn Bland

1983
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Speaker 2: for producing. We will talk to you tomorrow at three

1984
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Speaker 2: oh five on ESPN fifteen thirty. Cincinnati Sports Station.

1985
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1986
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1987
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1990
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Speaker 8: Reagan Highway, there is an accident on the off ramp

1991
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Speaker 8: to southbound seventy five.

1992
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Speaker 4: Right shoulder blocked down the.

1993
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Speaker 8: Ramp westbound two seventy five approaching Taylor Mill Road. An

1994
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Speaker 8: accident on the right shoulder in Montgomery Road. Accident between

1995
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