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Speaker 2: Let's talk to Tom. Tom. You're all with Mark.

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Speaker 3: Hey.

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Speaker 2: Hey, Tom, Hey.

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Speaker 4: So at the beginning of the year, if I think

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Speaker 4: finish second the division, they would have took that.

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Speaker 2: In a heart beat, no question.

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Speaker 4: Now that they have had the season they've had, is

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Speaker 4: it fair to change the expectations, Like, if they don't

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Speaker 4: a failure at all?

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Speaker 3: No?

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Speaker 2: No, no, absolutely not.

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Speaker 1: If they lose in the first round, unless they if

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Speaker 1: they got swept like four games to none by a

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Speaker 2: I don't think you can go further than disappointment.

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Speaker 1: I I'm not sure what makes the season a bust

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Speaker 1: and unless you get swept and look bad doing it.

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Speaker 1: That said, if you lose to the Flyers, you'll carry

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Speaker 1: that around like a disease.

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Speaker 2: For a while.

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Speaker 1: If you lose to the Islanders again, you know, the

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Speaker 1: a while, and you got to feel like Columbus is,

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Speaker 1: you know, just not good enough to beat them, So

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Speaker 1: you would carry that around like a disease for a while.

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Speaker 1: I think if they if they get a wild card

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Speaker 2: Again, it's about who you play and how you look.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I totally agree, and especially with like Sid and Uh,

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Speaker 2: What with Sid?

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Speaker 1: No, no, I I think SID will be back in

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Speaker 2: Let's go to uh Sam Samuel with Mark?

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Speaker 1: Hey?

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Speaker 2: Mark?

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Speaker 3: What Mane?

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Speaker 2: What mine?

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Speaker 6: Good question, actually two questions. So you mentioned schoolholl time earlier.

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Speaker 3: Do you got a chance?

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Speaker 7: Remember when that was?

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Speaker 1: I'm not I don't care about that. What do you

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Speaker 1: want to talk about? You got sports to talk about?

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Speaker 3: All right?

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Speaker 6: Fair enough? The second question you mentioned earlier that you said.

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Speaker 6: Who are the four you have ahead of them?

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Speaker 1: Well, my my top five right now are in order,

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Speaker 1: I feel like my top four are pretty certain, and

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Speaker 2: Three cups is a lot. Let's go to don.

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Speaker 1: I mean that's because it's not set yet, right, There's

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Speaker 1: I think Columbus would be the best by far. Columbus's

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Speaker 1: So I'd rather play Columbus right this second than Philadelphia,

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Speaker 6: In a week, for sure, for sure, Thank you.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, it's good Rick, Rick your own double.

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Speaker 7: M Hey Mark, Hey about the Diane Rassini rabel thing.

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Speaker 7: I heard PFT talking yesterday and he was asked about it,

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Speaker 2: Hit it all close to home with him. What's he

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Speaker 8: Do with it?

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Speaker 7: He says he has a very close relationship with Diane Rassini.

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Speaker 1: He is among a group of guys that is incredibly

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Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not worried about what the barstool guys

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Speaker 1: Egyptian magician Hell Bob.

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Speaker 2: How are you?

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Speaker 3: Hey? Mark? As fun as penguins, So the bloom He's

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Speaker 3: basically coming along. And if if you give me two

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Speaker 2: I agree with that.

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Speaker 1: But if you if everybody's healthy, Bob, who would you

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Speaker 9: I'm in the brazo at this point.

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Speaker 3: That's my opinion. But if you have to find something,

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Speaker 3: you know, there's some miss to play these last few games.

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Speaker 3: He needs to get those rusted off.

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Speaker 1: But Bob, if he if he's not ready to game

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Speaker 2: They need him on faceoffs in the PK.

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Speaker 9: No question, Okay, Well, I mean, hey, Bob.

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Speaker 1: It's a good problem to have you have an extra

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Speaker 1: calls in. I want more calls on the Russini Rabel thing.

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Speaker 1: I think this is a bigger deal in terms of

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Speaker 1: report on and Aaron Andrews, she's just a microphone stand

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Speaker 2: The sideline princess.

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Speaker 1: Diana Russini is a respected football journalist, or rather was respected.

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Speaker 3: He is horrible.

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Speaker 2: He is terrible. The ex at one five nine. It's

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Speaker 1: The usual self righteous suspects to get in their knickers

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Speaker 1: But Jeff Pearlman, who's a sports writer, he said that

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they would talk about the same things we're talking

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Speaker 1: good God, what don't you effing get? She shouldn't do it.

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Speaker 1: It compromises her integrity, her impartiality. What don't you get. Honestly,

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Speaker 1: they should fire her. That's exactly what they should do,

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Speaker 1: this looking good. Who'd have thought? Uh, Okay, here's that

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Speaker 1: SoundBite we have. It's the Kachuck Brothers. Matthew and Brady

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Speaker 1: or something like that, and they're talking about Sunday's game

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Speaker 10: I feel like he's just built so different that it's

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Speaker 1: He covers hockey for the Athletic He is Jesse Marshall. Jesse,

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Speaker 1: what's your take on the state of the Penguins goaltending?

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Speaker 1: Morishoff got sent back without having played a game during

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Speaker 1: this stay with the Penguins. It's got to be skinner

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Speaker 1: Where they go from there?

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I think that's the million dollar question Mark. I think,

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Speaker 8: I think is fatigue based, right. I mean, he was

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Speaker 8: I still think that that's the plan Mark. I know

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Speaker 8: as guys that have come in his rookies and won

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Speaker 8: That's the one thing that's on his resume right now

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Speaker 8: this Wilkspare team is primed to do that right now.

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Speaker 8: They are one of I think three teams that should

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Speaker 1: Well, well, don't get me wrong, I've got no problems

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Speaker 1: I would I think it's more important that And I

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Speaker 1: level with the Penguins, Jesse, they've done a lot better

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Speaker 8: Yeah, and I agree with you, by the way, I mean,

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Speaker 8: I think when you juxtapose that to what you saw

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Speaker 1: Now what do you make of Sid now being in

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Speaker 8: Just such a good manipulator, and there's no one in

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Speaker 8: He's got the best processor in the history of hockey.

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Speaker 8: And I think that's what makes this marriage so good.

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Speaker 8: And in the second line has been good enough independent

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Speaker 8: especially when let's be honest, right, I don't think he's

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Speaker 2: I agree with all that. Let me play Devil's advocate.

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Speaker 1: It does make Sid attack off the rush maybe more

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Speaker 1: He gave Crosby that that real short given go game

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Speaker 1: Part of me thinks sid will want him Raquel and

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Speaker 8: become respectable there. I don't know think you're putting himut

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Speaker 8: in a crucial defensive zone draw in the late in

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Speaker 8: a thirtd period, but everywhere else he's been pretty good

440
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Speaker 8: and has come a long way.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, I.

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Speaker 8: Think you know, we talked about this on the show

443
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Speaker 8: a lot of month ago. Mark the freedom that'll give

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Speaker 8: him right when he's coming up, you know. And again,

445
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Speaker 8: sickness is all situational and F one is not always

446
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Speaker 8: the F one, But I think it gives them a

447
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Speaker 8: little bit more freedom to mess around in the neutral zone,

448
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Speaker 8: right he'd come off his lane a little bit more.

449
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Speaker 8: I love that the dan Use system is all about

450
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Speaker 8: puck support because it gives players like we tell, the

451
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Speaker 8: opportunity to be a little bit creative on the breakout

452
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Speaker 8: and how they support the play in the offensive zone,

453
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Speaker 8: and I think that's where he's excelled. That's where he's

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Speaker 8: been really good. As he's he clearly understands the position

455
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Speaker 8: if he may not be fully proficient at at one

456
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Speaker 8: of its main roles, which is face off. But I mean, again,

457
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Speaker 8: leaps and bounds. I do think you're right. I do

458
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Speaker 8: think at the end of the day, when the playoffs start,

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Speaker 8: I think the superstitious Sidney Crosby will have his usual

460
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Speaker 8: band of mates together and you probably see a ton

461
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Speaker 8: you know, back back at center. But but for now,

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Speaker 8: it's it's it's it hasn't I guess it hasn't been

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Speaker 8: a detriment. It's worked out pretty well for the second

464
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Speaker 8: line too, when everybody's healthy.

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Speaker 2: How he keeps Solder blooming the lineup.

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Speaker 1: I think he deserves it, But I don't think deserves

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Speaker 1: part of the equation.

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Speaker 7: Uh.

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Speaker 8: I agree with you. It's so tough because that you

470
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Speaker 8: just have such a unique package of skill there. And

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Speaker 8: the Detroit fans, by the way marker bemoaning the fact

472
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Speaker 8: that he wasn't used like this in Detroit. They want

473
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Speaker 8: him in a hyper defensive role. They don't want to

474
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Speaker 8: create a creating offensively even though the data said that

475
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Speaker 8: he could. And now look at what you've got. You

476
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Speaker 8: got a handful of goals from a guy that you

477
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Speaker 8: didn't expect to get him from. I'd love to keep

478
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Speaker 8: him in there, Mark, But Blake Was, that's really good.

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Speaker 7: Uh.

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Speaker 8: That makes this a lot harder. I I you're you're

481
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Speaker 8: hard pressed to assume that you're going to get through

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Speaker 8: the entire playoffs healthy.

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Speaker 1: Oh no, of course he's going to play sooner or later.

484
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Speaker 1: But but right feel bad for him. Is they got

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Speaker 1: door A, Charie Was and Solder Bloom. We're all fourth

486
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Speaker 1: liners period. I don't think any could move up into

487
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Speaker 1: a top nine role. That said, I think Brazil has

488
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Speaker 1: really been not great since the end of November. There's

489
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Speaker 1: a lot of options to consider, but I think that

490
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Speaker 1: Solder Bloom will play the waiting game. But like you said,

491
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Speaker 1: eventually somebody gets hurt.

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Speaker 8: Mark. I'll throw a name out there too that somebody

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Speaker 8: that I think has sort of shifted into a passenger

494
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Speaker 8: like role recently that I think they need more from

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Speaker 8: is Tommy Novak. I'm not sure the last couple of

496
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Speaker 8: weeks have been super kind to him.

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Speaker 2: Yes, but he's hit top nine, don't you agree?

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Speaker 8: Agree with that? Right? So you're now losing one to

499
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Speaker 8: bring in Elmer Soderblam. And I don't know that that

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Speaker 8: makes you top to bottom of better hockey team, right.

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Speaker 1: And like one thing we wondered when that Novak, Chinacoff

502
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Speaker 1: Malkin line took off, and it may yet again if

503
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Speaker 1: it's assembled again, But everybody thought that Malkin made Chinakoff.

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Speaker 2: I think Chinakoff made all of them.

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Speaker 1: I think he was the initiator with that line period,

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Speaker 1: especially for Novak. Novak's who benefited most from that line.

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Speaker 8: His Novak's skill set right now, mark for that group

508
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Speaker 8: is sort of the ultra defensive presence because he's not

509
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Speaker 8: a puck He's not when you're on the line with China, Kov, Malkin,

510
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Speaker 8: whoever it is, you're not doing a lot of puck carrying, right,

511
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Speaker 8: that's not gonna be your role. You're not gaining a

512
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Speaker 8: lot of entries, right. I don't think he's a super

513
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Speaker 8: good distributor. I don't think he's bad at it, but

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Speaker 8: he's not somebody that's a conduit, right, Like, he's not

515
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Speaker 8: making little connective plays to keep things moving forward. I

516
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Speaker 8: think he's great defensively. He's got a decent finish sometimes,

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Speaker 8: but it you know, it's I wonder what is his

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Speaker 8: defined role on that line outside of, you know, kind

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Speaker 8: of locking things down defensively and making sure that it

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Speaker 8: doesn't get out of control that way?

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Speaker 1: Now, what about that pairing with Girard and Latang in

522
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Speaker 1: the back? I think it's been better lately, and I'm

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Speaker 1: beginning to wonder if I wasn't too hard on Girard initially,

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Speaker 1: because it takes defensemen longer to adjust than than any

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Speaker 1: other position upon switching team sometimes the whole season.

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Speaker 2: Look at gun char back when I.

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Speaker 8: Said the same thing about Ryan graves Mark is that

528
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Speaker 8: I think the Penguins are asking Gerard to play a

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Speaker 8: role on this line is just really not super familiar with.

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Speaker 8: And even when he was in Colorado on those lower repairings,

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Speaker 8: he was a puck carrier. That's his skill set, right.

532
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Speaker 8: He's got great hands, he can dangle his way through traffic.

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Speaker 8: The micro data all said that he loved to carry it.

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Speaker 8: And you're not going to get a lot of opportunities.

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Speaker 8: Is that when you're playing alongside Chris Latang and you can't,

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Speaker 8: you know, it's it's overkill is what it is, right,

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Speaker 8: And I think that initial weeks together that they spent

538
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Speaker 8: was oil and water for that reason, and I think

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Speaker 8: Girard's taken a little bit of a step away from that.

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Speaker 8: And I think you've seen improvements from him defensively more

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Speaker 8: likely because that's what he's been paying the most attention to.

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Speaker 8: So I think I think it was a chemistry thing.

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Speaker 8: I know you hate that word, but I think it

544
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Speaker 8: took time for them to get it acclimated to each other.

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Speaker 8: It's probably the better way to put it. And in

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Speaker 8: that there are two guys who play very similar roles,

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Speaker 8: usually individually.

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Speaker 1: Once, isn't it. La Tang likes to play with puck movers.

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Speaker 8: He does, but you know when those tuck movers get

550
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Speaker 8: over zealous, who's playing defense, right? And I think that's

551
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Speaker 8: what happened with the Graves pairing too, is that you know,

552
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Speaker 8: Ryan Graves never in his life has been asked to

553
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Speaker 8: make physical contact with someone. Right when he was in

554
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Speaker 8: New Jersey it was I mean, you know, he's a

555
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Speaker 8: string being get out there to carry the puck around,

556
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Speaker 8: and I think he tried to come to Pittsburgh and

557
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Speaker 8: do the same thing. They just kept running into each other.

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Speaker 8: So I and a couple of that mark with the

559
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Speaker 8: fact that, let's be honest, that Sullivan's system was overly

560
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Speaker 8: aggressive for those defense and on pensing, and they took

561
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Speaker 8: full advantage of that blank check and created a lot

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Speaker 8: of nightmare scenarios. So I'm cautiously optimistic. Right the last

563
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Speaker 8: couple of games they've played, they've carried the load analytically,

564
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Speaker 8: so you know they've got the wherewithal to do it.

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Speaker 8: I think the consistency is the question.

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Speaker 1: We got capitals home and home this weekend. That could

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Speaker 1: be the last time we see Sid versus Ov.

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Speaker 2: I hope not.

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Speaker 1: Obe got thirty goals. I think he ought to keep playing.

570
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Speaker 1: But is that the greatest individual rivalry in Lee history?

571
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Speaker 2: I think it very well may be.

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Speaker 8: I don't have a better one, you know. I know

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Speaker 8: a lot of people want to point to Mario and

574
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Speaker 8: Wayne Mark, but they didn't see each other enough, never played,

575
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Speaker 8: you know, there was never enough time.

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Speaker 2: If they had.

577
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Speaker 1: Played in the ninety three final, which except for David

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Speaker 1: Ballick they might have then maybe, but they didn't.

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Speaker 8: Right, So not enough regular season appearances for us to

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Speaker 8: really care about that. Yeah, I mean, I don't. I

581
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Speaker 8: don't think we'll top it. I don't think you'll individual

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Speaker 8: one on one player performances. Mark, I don't think two

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Speaker 8: thousand and nine will ever be topped. You had the dueling,

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Speaker 8: hat tricks, the overtimes, you know, everything that you could want,

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Speaker 8: and two generational performances from two of the best that

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Speaker 8: ever did it. Yeah, I mean we're blessed. I think

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Speaker 8: back in laugh Mark, though, you know, back to the

588
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Speaker 8: old days when when losing that of Echkin lottery seemed

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Speaker 8: like a death sentence, right that that seemed like the

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Speaker 8: thing that the penguins are never going to recover from that,

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Speaker 8: And you know, it's funny to see how it all

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Speaker 8: worked out all these years later.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: It it's something out of Central Casting too, Jesse, because

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Speaker 1: not only did they play the part two of the

596
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Speaker 1: all time great players, arguably both top five, they played

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Speaker 1: against each other constantly and Sid looks like James Bond,

598
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Speaker 1: Obie looked like a Bond villain.

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Speaker 2: Like I said, Central Casting, they.

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Speaker 8: Could not have been more different players. It's just compolar

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Speaker 8: complete opposites. And yeah, and it's you think back to

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Speaker 8: the amount of highlight real goals you had just from

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Speaker 8: those two players, Mark right. I mean you could do

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Speaker 8: an hour long tape just from them from their first

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Speaker 8: two years in the league, the Calder Race, the unbelievable

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Speaker 8: moments that that produced. You know, we grew up in

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Speaker 8: a Penguins Capitals era seven of eleven years. The Penguins

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Speaker 8: made the playoffs, they played and beat the Washington Capitals,

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Speaker 8: and that's what you were used to as a kid.

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Speaker 8: And I don't think you ever could get a better

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Speaker 8: extension of it. I mean, he had everything that you

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Speaker 8: could get the Capitals. I know, Noblas here they got

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Speaker 8: over there, Hunts right, the whole nine. It was just

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Speaker 8: a good story for both franchises.

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Speaker 1: Jesse, great stuff, Greag work at the Athletic. We'll talk

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Speaker 1: again soon. I hope enjoy the hockey.

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Speaker 8: Thanks, Mark, appreciate you.

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Speaker 2: That's Jesse Marshall from the Athletic.

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Speaker 1: We've talked a lot today about OV and sid that

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Speaker 1: the Saturday Sunday Home and Home with the Caps might

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Speaker 1: be the final time they meet.

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Speaker 2: Uh. I think OV.

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Speaker 1: Should come back. He scored thirty goals this year. That said,

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Speaker 1: I'd never be presumptuous to to think I know how

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Speaker 1: he should feel after all these years, and after the

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Speaker 1: way he plays that hard style. Then again, Sid plays

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Speaker 1: a hard style too. I think Sid's taking care of

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Speaker 1: himself better. That's not to say Ov's out of shape,

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Speaker 1: but nobody's in better shape, not least for his age,

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Speaker 1: than Sidney Crosby. But uh, this is a rivalry you

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Speaker 1: won't see come your way again. I think about that

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Speaker 1: all the time now that I'm older. Uh, how I

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Speaker 1: got to see Mario's whole career. I got to see

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Speaker 1: since whole career. I mean, toss in the five Stanley Cups,

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Speaker 1: tossing the Sidonov rivalry, tossing all those great moments, all

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Speaker 1: those goals, knowing both guys Yogurt two Malkin seeing him play.

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Speaker 1: I mean, how lucky have I been that the team

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Speaker 1: I've supported since a boy has given me all that.

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Speaker 1: Really really lucky, and I appreciate it, and I hope

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Speaker 1: you do too, if you're like minded.

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Speaker 2: Let's go to a talkback.

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Speaker 6: Mark.

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Speaker 3: How glorious would it be if the Penguins eliminate the

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Speaker 3: Flyers and the playoffs, thus being responsible for Saint Frederickton Daily?

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, I hadn't thought of that.

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Speaker 1: Saint Frederickson's Day, of course, the holiday when the Flyers

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Speaker 1: officially cannot win the Stanley cuprey at another year. Oh

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Speaker 1: what if it happened in Pittsburgh? Oh my god, that

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Speaker 1: would be more glorious than d Day. Now you're talking.

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Speaker 1: Now I'm psyched for that series if indeed they do

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Speaker 1: play the Flyers, although, as I've been saying, I hate

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Speaker 1: to get too jacked about it because we don't know

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Speaker 1: yet that it's gonna happen for short and in fact,

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Speaker 1: the Penguins technically haven't clinched the playoff berth, although it's

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Speaker 1: tough to imagine that they won't. But I don't want

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Speaker 1: to start planning and hyping the Penguins Flowers playoff series

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Speaker 1: and the next thing you know, you're staring in the

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Speaker 1: face of death with Tampa Bay because you dropped to

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Speaker 1: a wild card. Let's go to Joe, Joe, you're all

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Speaker 1: with double M.

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Speaker 3: Double M.

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Speaker 1: Big fan.

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Speaker 3: Ah.

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Speaker 4: Just say ask you, who do you think the best

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Speaker 4: collegiate wrestler in the last five years?

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Speaker 1: Is? God, You're you're freezing me, But it's that kid

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Speaker 1: from Oh God, what's his name?

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Speaker 2: The kids?

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Speaker 1: Spencer Lee from Iowa and Franklin Regional. Definitely Spencer Lee

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Speaker 1: collegiate wrestler, no doubt, fantastic.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's a yup.

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Speaker 1: Spencer's awesome. I think he did a did a match,

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Speaker 1: Thank you.

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Speaker 2: For the call.

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Speaker 1: He did a match for Bischoffsting that real American freestyle. Yes,

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Speaker 1: Spencer Lee. I mean he's hurt both his knees and

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Speaker 1: he just keeps coming. He's just I mean, I'm not

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Speaker 1: the biggest fan of amateur style wrestling, but I was

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Speaker 1: always a fan of watching Spencer League, catching up on YouTube,

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Speaker 1: seeing the highlights or whatever. Just just a machine. Let's

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Speaker 1: go to Ken Ken you're on them with Mark.

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Speaker 3: Well, mister Madden.

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Speaker 8: Thinking of past Stanley Cup teams, the nineteen ninety one

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Speaker 8: ninety two was the nineteen ninety three team as good

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Speaker 8: and we should have had three in a row. Just

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Speaker 8: looking back at those days, Well.

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Speaker 2: We should have had three in a row.

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Speaker 1: But I've talked about this with guys like Kevin Stevens

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Speaker 1: and Rick Tackett and they both think that was the

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Speaker 1: best team the PEngs have ever had, and I tend

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Speaker 1: to think that's true.

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Speaker 2: But you didn't win.

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Speaker 1: I can't say it's the best Penguins team ever when

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Speaker 1: it didn't win. I think it can write no better

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Speaker 1: than six behind the five Stanley Cup teams, because you

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Speaker 1: either winning you don't.

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Speaker 2: Capiese.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I tend to agree with that.

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Speaker 8: In Turion on paper, they just didn't get it done

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Speaker 8: in that second round.

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Speaker 2: Of the playoffs.

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Speaker 1: Well, put it this way, had they won the Cup

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Speaker 1: that year, and especially had they gone to the Dream

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Speaker 1: Final Mew against Gretzky, Penguins against the Kings, because don't

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Speaker 1: forget the Kings.

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Speaker 2: Lost to Montreal in that year's final.

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Speaker 1: If that had happened, it would be remembered as the

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Speaker 1: greatest Penguins team ever.

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Speaker 2: I have no doubt about that.

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Speaker 1: But if there's one thing I've learned about sports over

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Speaker 1: the years, Ken, it is what could have happened?

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Speaker 2: Did let's go to a talkback, Haymark.

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Speaker 5: Do you think Liverpool will get rid of Slot this

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Speaker 5: year based on their underperformance?

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Speaker 2: Uh?

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Speaker 5: You know, the big names like Izak, Firtz and Sala

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Speaker 5: or not.

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Speaker 1: I think they probably will replace, aren't it. I'll always

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Speaker 1: be grateful that he won the league last year in

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Speaker 1: his first year with Liverpool. Maybe he did that with

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Speaker 1: somebody else's team, klops team. I always hate to say that,

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Speaker 1: but I know what it looks like. I don't blame

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Speaker 1: him for Sala having a bad year. I think Mos

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Speaker 1: just hit the wall. I think he's too old for

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Speaker 1: the pace of the Premier League. I think he was

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Speaker 1: running on fumes at the end of the title season

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Speaker 1: last year.

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Speaker 2: Asak's been hurt all year. I think he'll come around.

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Speaker 1: I think Verts will come around if as rumored Zabi Alonso,

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Speaker 1: the former Liverpool player who managed him at bayer Leverkusen,

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Speaker 1: where Virtsu really made his bones a couple of years back,

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Speaker 1: I think it's going to turn out good for Liverpool.

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Speaker 1: Might take a bit of time to just kind of reload, rebuild,

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Speaker 1: whatever terminology he'd like to use.

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Speaker 2: But as always I live.

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Speaker 1: In hope and we'll see what happens to the rest

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Speaker 1: of this year.

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Speaker 2: And I hate to blame Slot totally.

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Speaker 1: I think Van Dijk is hit a wall too, and

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Speaker 1: I think he's not handled that well. I don't think

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Speaker 1: he's half the leader he had been when he was

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Speaker 1: a better player, and I think we see that on

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Speaker 1: the field. I don't know, just a tough year, just

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Speaker 1: a wasted year for Liverpool. But but my support has

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Speaker 1: not and never will waiver. Okay, get more calls in

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Speaker 1: a three three four one two w exetection. We haven't

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Speaker 1: had one call about Diana Russini. I can't believe. You

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Speaker 1: know you want to know what happened, you know you

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Speaker 1: want the sweaty details. You want to know what they

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Speaker 1: were wearing in that hot tub, what they were wearing later,

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Speaker 1: how fast it came off, was.

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Speaker 2: It any heap on the floor. It's salacious. You love it,

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Speaker 2: I love it.

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Speaker 1: We all want to know, except for everybody says it

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Speaker 1: was innocent in their adults and we should mind our

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Speaker 1: own business. Except she covers football and he's a football

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Speaker 1: coach and that's what makes it relevant, or it is

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