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Speaker 1: This is demark Man's show. You like it, you love it,

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Speaker 1: you want more of it. Let's bring on Tommy Radio.

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Speaker 1: Tom This ain't a crucial game tonight. But the Islander is,

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Speaker 1: like I said, or the Penguin's clear cut bogie team,

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Speaker 1: a bunch of really disappointing playoff eliminations at the hands

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Speaker 1: of the Islanders. I'm not sure it's a rivalry, but

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Speaker 1: I see those jerseys and I'm like, crap, I remember exactly.

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Speaker 2: I hate the Islanders, but it's not to the level

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Speaker 2: of a Flyers or a Rangers, right like in the

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Speaker 2: Capitals of course, Like I view those three as kind

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Speaker 2: of like a trifecta.

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Speaker 1: I knew the Flyers is on a whole other level, yeah,

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Speaker 1: rightestal by themselves, a pedestal of hate. But yeah, I

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Speaker 1: mean the Islanders more like disappointing. And I still can't

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Speaker 1: I mean seventy five, eighty one, ninety three, I can't

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Speaker 1: figure out what the freak happened, Like like twenty one,

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Speaker 1: I can't Jarry blew it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that was a clear one to figure out what

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Speaker 2: went wrong. But the other ones are just so haunting.

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Speaker 2: I've only heard of them, and they make me shudder.

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Speaker 2: I've seen twenty twenty one one. I see it over

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Speaker 2: and over again. I see those I saw those highlights

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Speaker 2: today pop up when I was scrolling through Twitter, just

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Speaker 2: from you know, the Penguins playing the Islanders.

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Speaker 3: Snit. It's the Islanders first game, you know.

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Speaker 1: You know it's funny when the Penguins blew the game

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Speaker 1: five lead in nineteen eighty two.

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Speaker 3: Uh it was best of five. Uh.

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Speaker 1: John Toinelli scored in overtime after having tied in regulation.

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Speaker 1: The Penguins led that game three to one late. And

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Speaker 1: it's amazing to think that the Penguins, who weren't that

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Speaker 1: good debt, took the eventual four time Stanley Cup champion

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Speaker 1: Islanders to overtime in a winner take all game that year,

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Speaker 1: and then they finished dead last and drafted Lemuge just

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Speaker 1: two years later. Now that's a pretty I mean, except

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Speaker 1: for the end result of getting sixty six.

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Speaker 3: It's amazing they fell that hard that fast that year.

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Speaker 2: They were the only team that took that eventual dynasty

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Speaker 2: Islanders team to the brink all four years.

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Speaker 3: I was gonna ask you that.

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Speaker 1: Islanders ever faced elimination in a game during their four

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Speaker 1: year run as Stanley Cup.

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Speaker 2: Chance against those Penguins. I mean, so go figure. So

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Speaker 2: you almost were the bogee team to them in that aspect.

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Speaker 2: But you're right, oh that would almost. No, it would

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Speaker 2: have made up for seventy five. I would have when

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Speaker 2: we blew the three games Daniel lead and seventy five.

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Speaker 2: If we would have pulled that off on them in

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Speaker 2: eighty two, I would have called it even. But then

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Speaker 2: came ninety three and David Wallick, would you have won

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Speaker 2: the Stanley Cup? The Penguin would have won the Stanley

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Speaker 2: Cup in seventy five.

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Speaker 3: Do you think no? Okay, then it's different then no.

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Speaker 1: In fact, that the reason that the Battleship Kelly, who

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Speaker 1: of years of the Penguin. He was the best fighter

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Speaker 1: I've ever seen. Like the Flyers were scared of them,

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Speaker 1: and Battleship Kelly said to me years later in an interview,

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Speaker 1: he thinks the reason the Penguins lost was because they

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Speaker 1: had to play the Flyers next, and half the roster

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Speaker 2: They didn't want to play them, right, the broad Street Bullies.

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Speaker 2: It's interesting, even with Battleship out there, he could take

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Speaker 3: He would have.

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Speaker 1: Had to have well, no, that's not true. I mean

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Speaker 1: they had Bob Paradise, who was tough as nails. Pierre

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Speaker 1: Rous wasn't a fighter, but he was no shrinking violet.

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Speaker 1: He wasn't scared. I mean I could name the guys

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Speaker 1: that interview. But but that that was the battleship's theory.

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Speaker 3: You know what sucks? You know who sucks that?

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Speaker 1: That piece of crab king blogger Wasshinsky on ESPN dot com.

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Speaker 1: He wrote a story openly rooting for sid to leave

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Speaker 1: Pittsburgh and said that everyone around sid wants that to happen.

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Speaker 2: And meanwhile, didn't that run parallel to Emily Kaplan did

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Speaker 2: this really nice story on Sidney Crosby, like highlighting kind

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Speaker 3: Caplin's pro She's she's great. Yeah, she's great.

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Speaker 2: So it's just so funny to see at the same

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Speaker 2: outlet put out garbage with Washinsky and then put out

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Speaker 1: What Shinsky works there and he got that gig after

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Speaker 1: having had that That popular goof blog is because they

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Speaker 1: Burnside and they brought in with Shinsky because he's cheap

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Speaker 3: But he's he's no pro. He's a hack.

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Speaker 2: You know, ESPN got the rights to hockey in this

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Speaker 2: it in the mob closet, forgot it existed. They have

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Speaker 2: fallen ass backwards or just had great talent on the

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Speaker 2: know about Boocie and Levy and Barry. We know what

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Speaker 1: You, Barry lin Da kne Yes, Animily, Kaplan's right in

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Speaker 2: It's a It's amazing to see how stacked they are

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Speaker 2: from a talent standpoint, and then how minimal attention they

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Speaker 1: Uh, do you have any new angles for the Steelers

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Speaker 1: and Brons or are we just going.

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Speaker 3: To get it over with?

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Speaker 2: I think we're just gonna get it over with. It's

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Speaker 2: funny to see the Browns make that trade yesterday, right

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Speaker 2: and send Greg Newsom to the Jags like they're open

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, but but that that dB trade they like

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Speaker 1: everything I've read, it's they traded.

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Speaker 3: This guy for the same guy.

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Speaker 1: Like there's no real you know jump, you know, for

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Speaker 2: I think Newsom's coming up on some more money, so

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Speaker 2: that might have been the motivation from the Brown side

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Speaker 2: of things. I guess the Jags just see something in him.

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Speaker 2: But my point is is like the Browns are selling

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Speaker 2: off like they they're not fooling themselves of where they are,

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Speaker 3: Selling off for semit here.

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Speaker 1: That's what's weird about lebron did We got a sound

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Speaker 1: bite later from Kevin Stefanski where he says that he

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Speaker 1: did not know that Joe Flacco.

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Speaker 3: Was getting traded.

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Speaker 1: How the frig does the head coach not know one

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Speaker 1: How Stefanski Flako's getting traded That owner has them he

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Speaker 1: Zappy from all reports, is gonna be the number two

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Speaker 1: What's gonna happen after that? How's the owner gonna react

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Speaker 2: I have no idea, but that's exactly how Stefanski and

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Speaker 2: the staff to know that that move was gonna happen

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Speaker 2: is because it.

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Speaker 3: Came from ownership he encouraged.

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Speaker 2: Did you see the video, Yes, he looks, he looks dumb. Fine,

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Speaker 2: he was like, we're still kind of scrambling on rosters.

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Speaker 2: It moves right now because we were completely blindsided. That

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Speaker 2: Don't you think he's gonna I do, And I think

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Speaker 2: Stefanski is gonna be fired at the end of the season.

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Speaker 1: Well, then the Steelers should fire Tomlin in higher sets

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Speaker 2: Coach, Tomlin is maybe not that extreme mark, but they

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Speaker 1: No, they should fire Tomlin and bring in Stefanski to

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Speaker 1: be the head coach. Stefanski's a two time the Coach

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Speaker 1: of the Year at the end of the season, Tom

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Speaker 1: Win will have not won a playoff game for eight

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Speaker 1: straight seasons. Probably by the way, I should have plugged

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Speaker 1: at the top of the show. We got the CID

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Speaker 1: the Hockey Night Show tonight, because well, that's less work

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Speaker 1: for us, and because it was such a great interview. Arguably,

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Speaker 1: I think the best interview I've ever done was sid

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Speaker 1: uh Well, the Steeler contain Garrett with their seven offensive linemen,

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Speaker 1: will seven men be enough to stop one?

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Speaker 2: I still think he's gonna get like a sack and

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Speaker 2: half in this game. He's still gonna get to Rodgers.

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Speaker 1: Worried about that. We got later Rogers talking about Garrett.

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Speaker 1: I'm worried that Garrett breaks Rodgers.

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Speaker 3: In half and the season's done for him. Because Garrett

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Speaker 3: hits hard. He don't just hit other weapons. On defense too,

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Speaker 3: They're a great defense.

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Speaker 2: That points per game allowed is just misleading because they

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Speaker 2: played the Lions and they played the Ravens when they

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Speaker 2: were healthy. Steelers offense is nowhere near those type of offenses,

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Speaker 2: So they're gonna get into a rock fight against the Browns.

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Speaker 2: I think they'll do an okay, job against Garrett, because

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Speaker 2: I think they're gonna be running away from him constantly.

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Speaker 3: They're gonna be moving rodgers away from him. They're gonna

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Speaker 1: What I would do, like I said yesterday, I'd line

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Speaker 1: him up right over the hill, Billy. I would put

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Speaker 3: I think you're spot on there.

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Speaker 2: And people even note that when he gets chipped a lot,

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Speaker 2: it's not as effective against Garrett as other rushers, Like

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Speaker 2: why because the chip on Watchers pushes wad out wide.

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Speaker 2: Garrett just dives to the inside of chips and just

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Speaker 2: And I wouldn't put it past Jim Schwartz to just

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Speaker 2: line him up on the nose, just right over Fraser

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Speaker 2: a couple of times, just say all right, let's see it,

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Speaker 2: he'll Billy, Let's see if you can stop me.

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Speaker 3: On the nose, like right next to him, a little

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Speaker 3: bit off the shoulder. Yeah, that's what I would do.

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Speaker 1: Although Garrett, you know, he's not in a slump or sae,

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Speaker 1: but he's only ninth in the league in sacks uh

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Speaker 1: Minnesota did well against him in London.

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Speaker 3: Haven't seen most of that game. I was impressed.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, mean, O'Connell's a great coach. I think he probably

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Speaker 2: schemed away from Garrett. That's what the Seeer's gonna have

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Speaker 2: to do. They're gonna have to scheme away from him.

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Speaker 2: As Rogers says in the SoundBite that you alluded to,

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Speaker 2: he's a guy that you literally build your entire game

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Speaker 2: plan around.

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Speaker 3: Is just one person ninety five.

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Speaker 1: Do you think Watt and Garrett are extra pump for

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Speaker 1: this game because they're kind of going head to head,

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Speaker 1: except they're never on the field together head to head

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Speaker 1: at the same time.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think that's why you mentioning. Garrett's in

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Speaker 2: a little bit of a slump right now. By his standards,

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Speaker 2: he might wake up and this one at Pittsburgh love

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Speaker 2: to shut that crowd up, have a big game in

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Speaker 2: this kind of atmosphere. I think Watt feels the same

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Speaker 2: way too. He never admit that, but they measure each

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Speaker 2: other based off of each other. I mean, it's very clear.

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Speaker 3: That's tom a mark up next.

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Speaker 1: Sidney Crosby It's the pregame show Don't Forget, brought to

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Speaker 1: My guest right now is a three time Stanley Cup champion,

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Speaker 1: Short, short term answer here, but what's it been like

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Speaker 3: What makes that special?

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Speaker 1: Now, what are your goals now? And let me cut

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Speaker 4: Drew Dowdy was there in Vancouver, so it was you know,

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Speaker 4: there's a wide range, and with missing a couple, I

436
00:20:25,119 --> 00:20:28,040
Speaker 4: think just the hunger to want to be in it,

437
00:20:28,160 --> 00:20:31,520
Speaker 4: just the excitement enthusiasm around it is probably at an

438
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Speaker 4: all time high because the fact that we we missed

439
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Speaker 4: a couple and then you look at four nations and

440
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Speaker 4: how that ended up and just the level of play

441
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Speaker 4: and and just the brand of hockey and the intensity

442
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Speaker 4: that that was there. I think that got everyone even

443
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Speaker 4: more excited. So it's just kind of it's grown and

444
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Speaker 4: and I think with it getting closer and closer, just

445
00:20:53,920 --> 00:20:57,399
Speaker 4: the level of hockey and representing your country and everything

446
00:20:57,440 --> 00:21:01,200
Speaker 4: that comes with the Olympics itself. Yeah, I just think

447
00:21:01,200 --> 00:21:05,240
Speaker 4: it's amazing hockey and everybody just gets really excited for it.

448
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Speaker 1: Is it different too, because I'm not saying you guys

449
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Speaker 1: are the underdog, but I feel like you in the

450
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Speaker 1: in the US are neck and neck.

451
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean you could throw some other teams in

452
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Speaker 4: there too. I just think the countries are so close now,

453
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Speaker 4: and in one game anything can happen, so definitely, you

454
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Speaker 4: know with four nations and how close those games were

455
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Speaker 4: and how that went. You know, you just you look

456
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Speaker 4: at international hockey. You know, we we lost in the

457
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Speaker 4: quarters that the Worlds, but it's it's become everyone's become

458
00:21:37,240 --> 00:21:41,240
Speaker 4: so much closer and and in one game, who knows.

459
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Speaker 4: So I think that, you know, everybody's got to be

460
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Speaker 4: at their best. And you look at the teams, they're

461
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Speaker 4: all they're all so skilled and and deep. So that's

462
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Speaker 4: that's what makes it so special though. It's just seeing

463
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Speaker 4: that amount of talent and uh and the product that's

464
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Speaker 4: on the ice is is as good as you're going

465
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Speaker 4: to see?

466
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Speaker 1: How far away are the Penguins from being as good

467
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Speaker 1: as you want? Are you encouraged by the direction?

468
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, you know, like I said, individually, I

469
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Speaker 4: don't look too far ahead as a team. I think

470
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Speaker 4: you're just looking to try to try to continue to

471
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Speaker 4: get better and and you know, we we go to

472
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Speaker 4: every night to try to win games. But you know,

473
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Speaker 4: as as you're seeing, there's some younger players, So I

474
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Speaker 4: think there's guys that are trying to prove that they're

475
00:22:27,040 --> 00:22:30,440
Speaker 4: you know, their NHL players. You know, every single day,

476
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Speaker 4: they're trying to prove that they belong. And I think

477
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Speaker 4: that's that's healthy. I think, you know, coming off of

478
00:22:37,240 --> 00:22:40,040
Speaker 4: a really good preseason, I think that build some confidence.

479
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Speaker 4: As far as the trajector trajectory though, I don't I

480
00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:45,960
Speaker 4: don't know. I mean I think there's a lot of

481
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Speaker 4: teams probably asking themselves the same question. I don't think

482
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Speaker 4: that you know, we're the only ones, but it's hard

483
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Speaker 4: to forecast. I think you just you try to get better,

484
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Speaker 4: You try to learn and and try to accelerate that

485
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Speaker 4: that learning curve as best you can. But hopefully the

486
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Speaker 4: mix of having guys who have been there for a

487
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Speaker 4: long time and and can you know, bring some experience

488
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Speaker 4: and and add that way. And then some youthful some

489
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Speaker 4: youthful energy, some some young some young guys who are

490
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Speaker 4: eager and want to learn and and I want to

491
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Speaker 4: show that they belong. Hopefully that combination is something that

492
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Speaker 4: that can help us along.

493
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Speaker 1: I know you hate the trade talk, and we both

494
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Speaker 1: know that the best way to shut it down is

495
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Speaker 1: for you guys to win.

496
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Speaker 3: Don't you feel that way?

497
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Speaker 4: It's exactly right. I mean, yeah, winning just has a

498
00:23:33,520 --> 00:23:38,000
Speaker 4: way of curing curing all. So yeah, there's nothing more

499
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Speaker 4: than I'd love is just to you know, to keep

500
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Speaker 4: keep getting wins and not have to worry about even

501
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Speaker 4: you know, going into that discussion.

502
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Speaker 3: You know you've become a really good interview.

503
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Speaker 1: Do you remember the first time we talked our our buddy,

504
00:23:50,600 --> 00:23:53,399
Speaker 1: the Riz brought you down to that restaurant at the

505
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Speaker 1: hotel across the street from the arena, steel Head, the Steelhead, right,

506
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Speaker 1: you were eighteen years old.

507
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Speaker 3: Your parents were there. It was just do you remember

508
00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:01,200
Speaker 3: that at all?

509
00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:04,600
Speaker 4: I do. It was packed too, I remember it was.

510
00:24:04,800 --> 00:24:08,040
Speaker 4: It was packed in there, and uh, you had to

511
00:24:08,040 --> 00:24:12,080
Speaker 4: set up. I think in one of the corners, right right, Yeah, yeah, no,

512
00:24:12,119 --> 00:24:13,800
Speaker 4: it was right. It was right across the street from

513
00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:17,960
Speaker 4: the melons, so yeah, I remember, I remember that for sure.

514
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Speaker 3: Well, of course it was packed. Sidney Crosby just got

515
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Speaker 3: to town.

516
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Speaker 1: In closing, as always, I ask are you married, engaged?

517
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Speaker 3: They're gonna be a father soon.

518
00:24:28,440 --> 00:24:29,760
Speaker 4: Nothing new to update you there.

519
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Speaker 1: Someday we're gonna break news, I swear to God, sid

520
00:24:33,600 --> 00:24:36,159
Speaker 1: As always, it's a it's a pleasure having you on

521
00:24:36,320 --> 00:24:37,440
Speaker 1: a good job last night.

522
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Speaker 3: We'll see at the opener tomorrow night.

523
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Speaker 4: Okay, thanks for having me.

524
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Speaker 3: That's shit. I'm mark around the corner. More hockey talk

525
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526
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Speaker 5: X one O five nine, The X has your shot

527
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Speaker 5: at X drug cash.

528
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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, here we go.

529
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Speaker 5: Guard thirteen times a day, nine am nine pm.

530
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Speaker 3: The X will give you the keyword at the top

531
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Speaker 3: of every hour.

532
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Speaker 5: Enter it at w X d X dot and you

533
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Speaker 5: could win one thousand dollars in non consecutive unmarked bills.

534
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Speaker 3: I don't know he's here.

535
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Speaker 5: That in detective shows, listen all day for your chance.

536
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Speaker 3: It's some extra cash. Unless you've consulting.

537
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Speaker 5: Better to do on one oh five nine X. It's

538
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Speaker 5: the mark Man for game show on one oh five

539
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Speaker 5: nine d.

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Speaker 1: X DOUBLEE with Tom off from and Tom Let's talk

541
00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:28,680
Speaker 1: some Penguins. Are you surprised that Jari's getting the start

542
00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:31,160
Speaker 1: and goal tonight for the home opener and not Archer

543
00:25:31,280 --> 00:25:35,040
Speaker 1: Shilloffs after the shutout at Manhattan on Tuesday.

544
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm definitely surprised.

545
00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:38,880
Speaker 2: I thought she loves to earn the net again, and

546
00:25:39,680 --> 00:25:41,840
Speaker 2: I thought mus would definitely go to him.

547
00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:44,200
Speaker 3: I'm not upset that he didn't.

548
00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:46,840
Speaker 1: I know, I don't think it's a bad decision. It's

549
00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:49,000
Speaker 1: just not what I would have done. But I understand

550
00:25:49,040 --> 00:25:51,520
Speaker 1: he wants to get both goalies involved. But I might

551
00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:55,240
Speaker 1: have started Shilloffs again because of the momentum from Tuesday

552
00:25:55,280 --> 00:25:58,919
Speaker 1: shutout and gone with Jari at home against the Rangers

553
00:25:59,240 --> 00:26:03,680
Speaker 1: on Saturday. Shiloff's assuming he plays Saturday, that'll be two

554
00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:06,399
Speaker 1: starts in a row against the same team, and that

555
00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:08,600
Speaker 1: can help him, but can help them too.

556
00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:09,320
Speaker 3: No doubt.

557
00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:11,760
Speaker 2: And do you think Sullivan's like pissed because he's not

558
00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:13,400
Speaker 2: going to get the face Jarry after all the years

559
00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:14,080
Speaker 2: of coaching Jarry.

560
00:26:14,119 --> 00:26:15,760
Speaker 3: Well, we don't know that. Yeah, he could go Jarry

561
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Speaker 3: back one.

562
00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:18,280
Speaker 1: If Jarry pitches it shut out tonight, what if the

563
00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:21,399
Speaker 1: intent always has been the Joys the number one and

564
00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:23,000
Speaker 1: Shiloffs just started the first game.

565
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Speaker 2: I would love to see this game play out in

566
00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:27,480
Speaker 2: a very similar manner. In front of the goaltender. Then

567
00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:30,680
Speaker 2: play extremely structurally sound, play really good defense in front

568
00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:33,320
Speaker 2: of him, make the saves easy, right like she Loves

569
00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:35,159
Speaker 2: didn't really dazzle in that game. He just made the

570
00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:36,920
Speaker 2: saves that he had to make. I want to see

571
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Speaker 2: Jarry get put in that same position because I think

572
00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:41,520
Speaker 2: he'll give up two or three goals and we will

573
00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:42,399
Speaker 2: know all we need to know.

574
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Speaker 1: I hope they played the same way in front of him,

575
00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:47,879
Speaker 1: because if you are serious about trying to make the

576
00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:51,439
Speaker 1: playoffs with this roster, that's how they they have to operate. Uh,

577
00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:54,760
Speaker 1: it's only one game, but what's your hunch, Well, Brunick

578
00:26:54,800 --> 00:26:55,560
Speaker 1: stay all season.

579
00:26:56,240 --> 00:26:59,840
Speaker 2: I'm in on Brunick staying all season, especially if damn

580
00:26:59,840 --> 00:27:01,680
Speaker 2: you played him about fifteen minutes in game one.

581
00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:03,200
Speaker 3: If that continues, yeah.

582
00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:06,080
Speaker 1: Because that if he gets the ice time and he

583
00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:08,600
Speaker 1: just won't get better at junior. He's on crone junior,

584
00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:11,080
Speaker 1: just like McKenna, not to the same degree, but the

585
00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:12,000
Speaker 1: same concept.

586
00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:14,320
Speaker 2: The big worry would be to make the Penguins to

587
00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:17,000
Speaker 2: avoid Junior and then play eight minutes a night. But

588
00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:19,040
Speaker 2: if it's going to be fifteen sixteen minutes, maybe that

589
00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:22,359
Speaker 2: increases to Mark, Like maybe after Thanksgiving he's really starting

590
00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:24,240
Speaker 2: to get his feet under him. You move him up

591
00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:26,199
Speaker 2: to him maybe closer to twenty minutes, maybe even put

592
00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:28,520
Speaker 2: him on that second Pairge toy rownd with some stuff

593
00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:28,880
Speaker 2: with him.

594
00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:30,359
Speaker 3: But I'm just saying it's a good start.

595
00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:32,719
Speaker 1: And I think he says, well, Kindle stay all season,

596
00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:34,399
Speaker 1: and I can tell you for certain that is not

597
00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:35,600
Speaker 1: in the plan.

598
00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:38,600
Speaker 3: I don't think he will. And I was playing it

599
00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:39,360
Speaker 3: was great Tuesday.

600
00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:41,680
Speaker 2: Well, I was planning on asking you today is there

601
00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:43,840
Speaker 2: anything he can do over these now next day games?

602
00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:44,680
Speaker 3: That almost forced us.

603
00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:47,000
Speaker 1: That I talk I talked to a Penguin insideer and

604
00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:49,200
Speaker 1: I don't know if this is being considered by Muse,

605
00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:53,399
Speaker 1: but the idea that this guy came up with was

606
00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:56,520
Speaker 1: to play Kindle on Sid's right wing because he thinks

607
00:27:56,560 --> 00:27:59,080
Speaker 1: just a little bit, he's seen a Kindle that Kendall

608
00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:03,080
Speaker 1: thinks the game like Sid and guys like that are

609
00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:06,960
Speaker 1: invaluable like Jake Gonzil made himself into the you know

610
00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:09,359
Speaker 1: level player he did because he thinks the game like

611
00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:12,480
Speaker 1: Sid more so than Jake's palette. To be blunt, bigger

612
00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:16,320
Speaker 1: example way back when Robbie Brown skate as if he

613
00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:19,760
Speaker 1: were in molasses, but he thought the game like Mario

614
00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:22,200
Speaker 1: and had a one hundred and fifteen point season because

615
00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:25,680
Speaker 1: of it. You want guys who think akin to the stars,

616
00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:29,200
Speaker 1: and uh, if that's the hunch that Kindall does, I

617
00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:30,760
Speaker 1: would give him a shot on Sid's wing.

618
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Speaker 3: Haven't you said that?

619
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Speaker 2: The hunch is there with coyven in two though, that

620
00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:35,640
Speaker 2: he can think the game at a high level as well.

621
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Speaker 2: I think you talked about that with said too.

622
00:28:37,080 --> 00:28:42,040
Speaker 1: I think Conan has some Genzel potential, yes, Kindall to me,

623
00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:45,600
Speaker 1: although he played very well for an eighteen year old

624
00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:48,200
Speaker 1: at MSG making that debut, being the third line center

625
00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:50,160
Speaker 1: needs a little be a little bit stronger, don't you

626
00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:51,480
Speaker 1: think Mark this needs to get a little bit of

627
00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:52,200
Speaker 1: the strength.

628
00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:55,160
Speaker 2: Though, probably, but it wasn't overwhelming that he got bumped

629
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Speaker 2: around too much, just a little bit, I think in

630
00:28:56,800 --> 00:28:57,240
Speaker 2: that game.

631
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know, And it would be different on

632
00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:02,320
Speaker 1: Sid's wing. The playing center like you did. It's true,

633
00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:05,920
Speaker 1: you know in the opener, but major point. I like

634
00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:07,960
Speaker 1: what we see from Kindle and I would like to

635
00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:10,120
Speaker 1: see that experiment because I think.

636
00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:12,280
Speaker 3: This year has to have a lot of that to

637
00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:13,440
Speaker 3: move the team forward.

638
00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:17,000
Speaker 1: Now, what about the experiment of three six foot five

639
00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:21,400
Speaker 1: guys on the same line with Brawsers and and uh

640
00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:25,280
Speaker 1: Manta and Egenny Molt. It certainly looked good and it

641
00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:26,920
Speaker 1: got the couple goals. What do you think is that

642
00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:28,920
Speaker 1: a good idea and should they keep going?

643
00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:30,480
Speaker 2: I don't know if it's a good idea, Mark, but

644
00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:33,400
Speaker 2: I'll tell you what it is. It's more different, right,

645
00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:36,120
Speaker 2: It's something different with the penguins. They have size. Now

646
00:29:36,120 --> 00:29:37,840
Speaker 2: they have an actual line of forwards.

647
00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:38,320
Speaker 3: It's big.

648
00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:41,200
Speaker 2: And would you say that any of those guys really

649
00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:44,520
Speaker 2: play super big, like have a physical presence Manna. No,

650
00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:46,360
Speaker 2: So it's really kind of like you're just off the

651
00:29:46,360 --> 00:29:48,360
Speaker 2: bus and you look the part. But still I like it.

652
00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:50,080
Speaker 2: I like having those trees out there. I bet you

653
00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:52,560
Speaker 2: it doesn't last, though, because once they get people healthy,

654
00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:55,440
Speaker 2: until they trade people off, you can't rush them.

655
00:29:55,680 --> 00:29:58,560
Speaker 1: Orty Pop into the top six, absolutely so, but I

656
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Speaker 1: like it temporarily like it because Gino's not that fast now,

657
00:30:03,280 --> 00:30:06,280
Speaker 1: so it's it's a different true that he gets and

658
00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:10,160
Speaker 1: other teams get checking Gina and I here's something they'll

659
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Speaker 1: never do.

660
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Speaker 3: But it's way out.

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Speaker 1: What have you kept that line together because it succeeds

662
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Speaker 1: and ultimately your third line would be Kindle, rust and McGroarty.

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Speaker 2: I mean that actually intrigues me a lot and excites

664
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Speaker 2: the potential of what Kindle could become playing with those

665
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Speaker 2: type of wings. I just I'm in the camp that

666
00:30:26,520 --> 00:30:28,440
Speaker 2: Kendle's gonna be playing in juniors this year.

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00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:30,360
Speaker 3: I don't think. I think you're probably right.

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Speaker 1: I would call them Malkin line while lasts the Godzilla

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Speaker 1: line because history shows again and again, Uh, who's gonna

670
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Speaker 1: wind up being the number one goalie? I think we

671
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Speaker 1: touched on the starter. Who who do you think will

672
00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:46,880
Speaker 1: play more games? I think whoever's number two will wind

673
00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:48,400
Speaker 1: up playing thirty some odd games.

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Speaker 2: Anyway, I'm glad you phrased it that way because I

675
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Speaker 2: don't know if there's a true number one goalie like

676
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Speaker 2: going to take seventy five seventy percent of the starts here,

677
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Speaker 2: but I think she loves By the end of the year,

678
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Speaker 2: will end up being in the net more often.

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Speaker 1: I think Joy by the end of year could wind

680
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Speaker 1: up back in Wilkes.

681
00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:05,320
Speaker 3: That bad.

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Speaker 1: Well, that begs this question, and it's another one we've

683
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Speaker 1: we've explored the way out there stuff in this segment.

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Speaker 1: But say the Penguins are third or better in the

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Speaker 1: Metro Division after Thanksgiving? Do you summon Morrishoff because you

686
00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:22,360
Speaker 1: know he's the best goalie in your system, or do

687
00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:23,840
Speaker 1: you stick with Jarry and Shiloffs.

688
00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:29,920
Speaker 2: I summoned Myrishov because if we're in third placed.

689
00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:30,840
Speaker 3: How he's playing in Wilkes.

690
00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:32,680
Speaker 2: Right, But if say he's playing like we expect him

691
00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:35,080
Speaker 2: to play, and you have said that if the defense

692
00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:36,760
Speaker 2: was better and if the team was better, he probably

693
00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:38,080
Speaker 2: would have made the team this year. He looks like

694
00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:41,120
Speaker 2: he might be ready if they're in third place come Thanksgiving.

695
00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:42,880
Speaker 2: I assume the blue line is better than we could

696
00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:45,280
Speaker 2: have ever imagined, and I assume she LOFs is actually

697
00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:47,080
Speaker 2: playing pretty well as kind of the lead goalie in

698
00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:50,040
Speaker 2: that Jarry she Lofts handing. So I replaced Jari with Mirischoff.

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Speaker 2: You don't have to put the pressure on Marishof.

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Speaker 1: I replaced whoever's playing worse of the two with Miroschof.

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00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:56,640
Speaker 1: I don't want to kind of joy before he's.

702
00:31:56,560 --> 00:31:59,440
Speaker 3: Played a game, although that's the way I'm leaning. Yeah,

703
00:31:59,480 --> 00:31:59,880
Speaker 3: I lean that.

704
00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:02,720
Speaker 2: So let's pretend Jarry is the one that's out, and

705
00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:04,920
Speaker 2: then you just roll forward with She loves and Mirischov.

706
00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:06,840
Speaker 2: And I like not having to put the pressure on Mirischov.

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Speaker 2: He can kind of be that one beat as she loves.

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Speaker 1: Here's my prediction for tonight, Penguins winning overtime and Sid

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Speaker 1: scores the winner.

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Speaker 3: You watch.

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Speaker 2: I like that prediction. I'll just I'll make a little

712
00:32:16,120 --> 00:32:17,840
Speaker 2: bit of a lesser prediction. He's just gonna get on

713
00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:18,440
Speaker 2: the board tonight.

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Speaker 3: Sid.

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Speaker 2: I think I think he was a little salty. He

716
00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:22,280
Speaker 2: didn't score on the opener, I don't think so we

717
00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:24,560
Speaker 2: don't know he won. He won all he cares about

718
00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:26,680
Speaker 2: that he cares about That's a good point. I was

719
00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:28,560
Speaker 2: just wondering, you know, the opening night you like to put.

720
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Speaker 3: A but he was beaming talking after the game.

721
00:32:31,560 --> 00:32:33,400
Speaker 2: So and he was flying up and down the ice,

722
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Speaker 2: and there was nobody better when Mark when there was

723
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Speaker 2: like a hold up of a puck against the wall,

724
00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:38,719
Speaker 2: he was just muscling in there.

725
00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:41,880
Speaker 1: Picking there was a shift in the third with the

726
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Speaker 1: peng was up one nil, where he was don low

727
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Speaker 1: below the goal line, you know, like grinding the puck

728
00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:49,400
Speaker 1: because he's the best grinder ever, no doubt, even though

729
00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:52,200
Speaker 1: he hates being called that, and the Rangers just couldn't

730
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Speaker 1: handle it.

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Speaker 3: They couldn't handle It's just a dance, honestly, and I

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Speaker 3: love too.

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Speaker 2: He didn't really do that in this game, but I

734
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Speaker 2: love when he gets somebody on his hip and he

735
00:32:58,280 --> 00:32:59,880
Speaker 2: just goes back and forth with the puck and they

736
00:32:59,880 --> 00:33:01,480
Speaker 2: just have no they kinking around him.

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Speaker 1: Rangers are bad. I wonder if Sally really knows it yet.

738
00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:06,440
Speaker 1: I know, I know it.

739
00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:09,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, you were on it even before losing to the

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Speaker 2: Penguins and looking so.

741
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Speaker 3: Far, so many holes in that roster.

742
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Speaker 2: The Metro is sneaky open right now. As far as

743
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Speaker 2: the top three hurt, Caroline is a lock. I think

744
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Speaker 2: that's the only one I think is a lock. I

745
00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:22,200
Speaker 2: don't think they'll make the Cup final like some people do.

746
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Speaker 3: They might. I don't know they might.

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Speaker 1: I mean they're gonna get an easy ride, probably through

748
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Speaker 1: the Metro playoffs.

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Speaker 3: I think the Camp and Florida hate each other.

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Speaker 1: They had an exhibition game that went amuck the other night.

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Speaker 1: If they play in that and then you gotta play.

752
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Speaker 2: Toronto too, I think the Caps might take a step

753
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Speaker 2: back this year too.

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Speaker 3: Tom One last quick thing.

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm already curious about because I predicted

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Speaker 1: a win in overtime.

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Speaker 3: Who will Muse playing overtime?

758
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Speaker 1: Because that's a narrow bench by nature three on three,

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Speaker 1: Selly played only the veterans. I wonder if Muse will

760
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Speaker 1: play Brunick, Kendall or Clovenon.

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Speaker 2: I wonder if he taps into that what we were

762
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Speaker 2: talking talking about with the IQ of Kindle and put

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Speaker 2: Sid and Kindle out there as forwards with maybe like

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Speaker 2: a tanger or something like that to start over time.

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Speaker 2: I would I would actually kind of like to see that.

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Speaker 1: They could put out Kindle, Sid and Carlson he would

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Speaker 1: sit out there. They could just turn to the gold

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Speaker 1: and say, yeah, good luck with this. Although Carlson had

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Speaker 1: that great assist in the last exhibition game. Defeed, sid

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Speaker 3: Tom Nod's time for the trifecta. What do you got

813
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Speaker 3: for today's triffector?

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Speaker 2: We already talked on today's show about how the Islanders

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00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:57,560
Speaker 2: are the Penguin's Bogie team. They have really those three

816
00:36:57,600 --> 00:37:00,000
Speaker 2: big moments where they wear the Bogey team to the Penguins.

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00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:02,080
Speaker 2: I'm gonna rank him in terms of least painful to

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Speaker 2: most painful. Three two one ahead, I bet, I bet

819
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Speaker 2: we disagreed.

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00:37:05,120 --> 00:37:05,560
Speaker 3: Number three.

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00:37:05,600 --> 00:37:07,719
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go with the most recent one, Jari in

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00:37:07,719 --> 00:37:09,480
Speaker 2: twenty twenty one. That's really the only one that I've

823
00:37:09,520 --> 00:37:11,120
Speaker 2: seen with my own, not one of.

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Speaker 3: The legitimately most painful ones.

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00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:18,719
Speaker 2: But go ahead, Okay, fine, sure, exactly, and again I

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Speaker 2: witnessed it.

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Speaker 3: Number two.

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Speaker 2: I'll go seventy five, up three to zero in the

829
00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:23,720
Speaker 2: aisles and then collapsing, having them win four straight games.

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00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:26,000
Speaker 2: And then I'll go ninety three at number one. I've

831
00:37:26,040 --> 00:37:27,879
Speaker 2: heard so many people just tell me that ninety three

832
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Speaker 2: might have been even better than ninety one, and ninety

833
00:37:30,239 --> 00:37:32,280
Speaker 2: two could have been the best Penguins team of all time.

834
00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:35,120
Speaker 2: And then they lose to the Stephen says that David Bolck,

835
00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:36,000
Speaker 2: he says.

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Speaker 1: He says that that was the best Penguins team. The

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00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:41,200
Speaker 1: Penguins trailed three to one late in Game seven, came back. Yeah,

838
00:37:41,239 --> 00:37:44,000
Speaker 1: he scored twice late, but then Bollock scored on a

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00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:47,120
Speaker 1: pretty bad angle shot. I'm not blaming Tom Barrasso, even

840
00:37:47,120 --> 00:37:49,239
Speaker 1: though I'd like to, because things should have been well

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00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:50,279
Speaker 1: in hand before that.

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00:37:50,520 --> 00:37:52,080
Speaker 3: Well, can you blame him on who scored from the

843
00:37:52,080 --> 00:37:52,560
Speaker 3: blue line?

844
00:37:52,560 --> 00:37:54,200
Speaker 2: Who was the guy who just came down and took

845
00:37:54,239 --> 00:37:56,279
Speaker 2: a clap bomb from the blue line like before he

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Speaker 2: even got into the offensive.

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Speaker 3: Even to ninety six against Florida. No, this was in

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Speaker 3: the Islanders game, your Penguin executive Tom Fitzgerald ninety six.

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Speaker 1: From just inside the blue line in Game seven of

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Speaker 1: the Conference final.

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00:38:09,120 --> 00:38:12,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, here's how i'd rank him.

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Speaker 1: I would throw out twenty one because that just was

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00:38:15,880 --> 00:38:18,680
Speaker 1: you know, that was the last gasp of a fading

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00:38:18,719 --> 00:38:22,240
Speaker 1: Stanley Cup winner. I didn't have any expectations beyond that series,

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00:38:22,719 --> 00:38:24,640
Speaker 1: although if if they had won that series a little

856
00:38:24,680 --> 00:38:27,040
Speaker 1: moment or beat the Rangers in twenty two, who knows,

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Speaker 1: especially the Rangers because they have three games to one.

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00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:33,320
Speaker 1: But it was a freaking The most heartbreaking was seventy

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Speaker 1: five for me because I was fourteen years old.

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Speaker 3: That makes sense for you.

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Speaker 1: We would have got to the semifinals for the second

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Speaker 1: time ever, and it was easy to get to the semifinals.

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Speaker 1: Not long before that. We did it in sixty nine

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Speaker 1: because you only had to win one round to get

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Speaker 1: to the semi final. If this was in the second round,

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Speaker 1: you would have won, correct. Yeah, if we had won

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Speaker 1: a preliminary round to get to the Islander series in

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Speaker 1: seventy five ninety three, you're right because that was the

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00:38:56,960 --> 00:38:59,560
Speaker 1: arguably the best Penguin team of all time. Although even

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Speaker 1: though Kevin steven says it's the best team, Rick Toockett say, nah,

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Speaker 1: best team we would have won, period.

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00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:08,239
Speaker 3: I can't argue with that, really no.

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Speaker 1: And I would put eighty two with Tanelli just because

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Speaker 1: that would have been such an egregious upsete we had

875
00:39:14,560 --> 00:39:16,880
Speaker 1: been done. That was the best of five first round series.

876
00:39:17,160 --> 00:39:20,319
Speaker 1: We were don two games to none. Got killed, got

877
00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:22,959
Speaker 1: killed in games one and two. I was at Game

878
00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:26,600
Speaker 1: three Andre Saint Laurn scored in overtime to pro I

879
00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:29,200
Speaker 1: think that was game three, maybe four, but I saw

880
00:39:29,239 --> 00:39:31,719
Speaker 1: the sant l Ran overtime goal, and like I said,

881
00:39:31,719 --> 00:39:34,560
Speaker 1: the Penguins lad three to one with I want to

882
00:39:34,560 --> 00:39:36,920
Speaker 1: say six or seven minutes left in Game five at

883
00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:37,359
Speaker 1: New York.

884
00:39:37,600 --> 00:39:40,560
Speaker 2: I'm sure that was extremely painful for you to go through,

885
00:39:40,640 --> 00:39:42,360
Speaker 2: but for me looking back at this, and this is

886
00:39:42,400 --> 00:39:43,920
Speaker 2: why I kind of paused when you said I left

887
00:39:43,960 --> 00:39:44,239
Speaker 2: one out.

888
00:39:44,239 --> 00:39:46,920
Speaker 3: I knew it was going to be that. You look

889
00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:47,239
Speaker 3: at that.

890
00:39:47,320 --> 00:39:49,200
Speaker 2: You would have been the bogie team for the Islanders then,

891
00:39:49,320 --> 00:39:50,960
Speaker 2: like you were the team pool in the upset. You

892
00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:53,080
Speaker 2: were the team that didn't have anything to lose. They

893
00:39:53,080 --> 00:39:55,640
Speaker 2: were the team that was on the Vergin No, no, no,

894
00:39:55,640 --> 00:39:56,960
Speaker 2: I'm talking about eighty one, eighty two.

895
00:39:57,040 --> 00:39:58,760
Speaker 3: The other one. They were in the middle of their dynasty.

896
00:39:58,760 --> 00:39:59,640
Speaker 3: They had already won two.

897
00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:02,720
Speaker 2: So I mean, like, the dynamic is so different looking

898
00:40:02,760 --> 00:40:04,880
Speaker 2: back then that it's not really painful to look at that.

899
00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:09,200
Speaker 1: It was painful, but you're right, it didn't defy expectations.

900
00:40:08,480 --> 00:40:10,640
Speaker 2: Right the other ones though. I mean, you blew a

901
00:40:10,640 --> 00:40:12,640
Speaker 2: three zero lead in seventy five and I know I

902
00:40:12,719 --> 00:40:13,000
Speaker 2: was there.

903
00:40:13,520 --> 00:40:15,920
Speaker 1: I mean I was at that game seven, I was

904
00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:17,680
Speaker 1: in all the games then we had season tickets. But

905
00:40:17,760 --> 00:40:20,160
Speaker 1: that was you know what, I'll never forget two sounds,

906
00:40:21,440 --> 00:40:23,560
Speaker 1: the sound of Pierre Lerouge hitting the post and it

907
00:40:23,640 --> 00:40:26,200
Speaker 1: not going in, and the sound of Eddie West falls

908
00:40:26,280 --> 00:40:29,440
Speaker 1: back in, and the third hitting the post and going in.

909
00:40:29,719 --> 00:40:32,080
Speaker 2: There's almost nothing worse in playoff hockey than hitting the

910
00:40:32,120 --> 00:40:34,080
Speaker 2: post and not coming away with anything and hearing that

911
00:40:34,120 --> 00:40:36,640
Speaker 2: loud I think, and knowing how close you were, had

912
00:40:36,680 --> 00:40:39,080
Speaker 2: the goalie pretty much beat and you just missed.

913
00:40:39,400 --> 00:40:42,000
Speaker 1: We thought we'd come back the next year and do well,

914
00:40:42,040 --> 00:40:44,239
Speaker 1: and we didn't. I think we lost in the preliminary round.

915
00:40:44,760 --> 00:40:48,160
Speaker 1: It just whatever that team had in seventy five disappeared

916
00:40:48,239 --> 00:40:50,319
Speaker 1: very quickly. And it was a good team we had.

917
00:40:50,440 --> 00:40:53,200
Speaker 1: We had, you know, Apps, Pronovo and McDonald. I'm naming

918
00:40:53,200 --> 00:40:56,719
Speaker 1: guys people have long since forgotten. Pierre Ruce, Battleship, Kelly.

919
00:40:56,760 --> 00:40:59,080
Speaker 1: I think the right wing was Chuck Arnison. We had

920
00:40:59,239 --> 00:41:01,480
Speaker 1: a tough deep. We had Ron Stakkos who was a

921
00:41:01,560 --> 00:41:05,160
Speaker 1: very good offensive defenseman. Gary Innis had kind of a

922
00:41:05,200 --> 00:41:07,719
Speaker 1: once in a lifetime type of season in goal. But

923
00:41:07,760 --> 00:41:09,960
Speaker 1: it was It was a decent team. I have very

924
00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:11,120
Speaker 1: fond memories of that team.

925
00:41:11,160 --> 00:41:13,760
Speaker 2: If not the end, the Islanders are just so annoying,

926
00:41:13,840 --> 00:41:15,759
Speaker 2: like they're not a true rival like we established, but

927
00:41:15,800 --> 00:41:17,920
Speaker 2: they're just such an annoying team, like a nat buzzing

928
00:41:17,960 --> 00:41:19,839
Speaker 2: around an elephant that you just keep trying to whack

929
00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:20,320
Speaker 2: away from you.

930
00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:22,480
Speaker 1: Not in the early eighties, they weren't true in the

931
00:41:22,480 --> 00:41:24,600
Speaker 1: early eighties, they were the freaking allan then became the

932
00:41:24,640 --> 00:41:28,160
Speaker 1: em they stepped on you. It was like, like again,

933
00:41:28,280 --> 00:41:31,560
Speaker 1: amazing that except for that at best of five the

934
00:41:31,600 --> 00:41:33,600
Speaker 1: Penguins lost in eighty two. That was the only time

935
00:41:33,600 --> 00:41:36,120
Speaker 1: the Islanders faced an elimination series. Know, I felt really

936
00:41:36,160 --> 00:41:37,960
Speaker 1: bad for even though I did not know him. Then

937
00:41:38,600 --> 00:41:41,040
Speaker 1: Herb Brooks went to coach the Rangers after the Olympics, right,

938
00:41:41,440 --> 00:41:43,239
Speaker 1: and the Rangers might have been the second best team

939
00:41:43,239 --> 00:41:45,360
Speaker 1: in hockey. But you know then, as now the playoff

940
00:41:45,360 --> 00:41:48,000
Speaker 1: state in the division, Herb didn't have a freaking chance.

941
00:41:48,040 --> 00:41:50,960
Speaker 3: They played in the first round, first or second. We

942
00:41:51,200 --> 00:41:52,320
Speaker 3: just didn't have a chance.

943
00:41:52,520 --> 00:41:53,799
Speaker 2: But it's kind of like how it is now right

944
00:41:53,880 --> 00:41:56,040
Speaker 2: where you kind of force feed those matchups early instead

945
00:41:56,080 --> 00:41:57,600
Speaker 2: of those were the two best teams they should have

946
00:41:57,600 --> 00:41:58,520
Speaker 2: met in the conference final?

947
00:41:59,200 --> 00:42:01,000
Speaker 3: Were those the two best teams? That's so long.

948
00:42:01,080 --> 00:42:04,080
Speaker 1: But as I recall, because her got Herb got the

949
00:42:04,080 --> 00:42:06,839
Speaker 1: perfect blended guys to do that hybrid stuff the euro

950
00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:08,560
Speaker 1: and you know, he had a lot of Olympias like

951
00:42:08,600 --> 00:42:11,880
Speaker 1: Pavlich and McClanahan and uh and you know, you know

952
00:42:11,920 --> 00:42:13,960
Speaker 1: it's funny though, here's what made Herb a great coach.

953
00:42:14,440 --> 00:42:16,640
Speaker 1: He went to New Jersey with just had pluggers, so

954
00:42:16,680 --> 00:42:18,640
Speaker 1: he played defense like Herb would just adapt.

955
00:42:18,920 --> 00:42:21,600
Speaker 3: So many coaches like Sully here just won't adapt.

956
00:42:22,239 --> 00:42:25,040
Speaker 2: Who's better adapt to the taking down a dynasty too

957
00:42:25,080 --> 00:42:27,080
Speaker 2: than Herb? I mean, what a good tribe by the

958
00:42:27,120 --> 00:42:28,840
Speaker 2: Rangers to try to dethrone the Islanders.

959
00:42:28,840 --> 00:42:31,040
Speaker 1: I'm just as glad we didn't play the Russians best

960
00:42:31,040 --> 00:42:33,440
Speaker 1: as seven what oh five ninety x