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Speaker 3: Bengals for the final time the twenty twenty five Bengals season.

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Speaker 3: great place to watch. Think about this. You got five

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Speaker 3: consecutive nights of playoff football Thursday Friday the College Football

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Speaker 3: Playoffs semi Finals. Then you've got the NFL Playoffs, two

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Speaker 4: Shout out to college football for just getting it. Yes,

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Speaker 4: don't try to make the games on the weekends. Understand

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Speaker 4: it's wild card weekend.

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Speaker 3: Yep.

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Speaker 4: You take Thursday, you take Friday, dominate those days and

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Speaker 4: then usher in the NFL.

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Speaker 3: And everybody gets a week off. Yep. Right, you either

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Speaker 3: played on Wednesday or Thursday of last week, and so

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Speaker 3: it works out great. It's gonna lead to a great

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Speaker 3: five day of football. We want to thank the staff

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Speaker 3: Westchester for having us all season long. We have a

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Speaker 3: lot to discuss. If you're wondering, Zach Taylor does have

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Speaker 3: a press conference today at four point thirty. We're gonna

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Speaker 3: go ahead and err a live because pretty significant news.

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Speaker 3: The Bengals made the official announcement today Mike Brown himself

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Speaker 3: from his desk. From his desk, I'm sure he sent

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Speaker 4: Do you think he penned it, typed it.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna guess he dictated it. Okay, made the announcement

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Speaker 3: that both Zach Taylor and Duke Tobin will return in

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Speaker 3: twenty twenty six. I guess my first question would be this,

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Speaker 3: and I asked it to you guys during quick Hits.

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Speaker 3: I kind of took that as Mike, you're telling me

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Speaker 5: Now.

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Speaker 3: I think there's something significant about the owner announcing it.

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Speaker 3: I think there's something telling about the owner announcing it

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Speaker 4: Right, I think we did get a little bit of

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Speaker 4: We are, which is far different than in your face.

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Speaker 4: And yeah, credit to the Bengals and Duke Tobin whoever

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Speaker 3: That should be a new thing every year.

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Speaker 4: It should be that should be the bare minimum.

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Speaker 3: And it should be something that happens on occasion during

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Speaker 3: the season and throughout the off season. Right correct. At

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Speaker 4: Mike Brown talked about, you know, getting back to work

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Speaker 4: on how to write this, how to get this fixed.

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Speaker 3: So it's it's the question that defines the offseason, right,

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Speaker 3: six and eleven can be painful, but one more painful

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Speaker 3: reminder that your defense, every time it was asked to

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Speaker 4: And I think this more so now than a lot

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Speaker 4: Every team in the playoffs you can look and say,

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Speaker 4: And then I think to what I always go back

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Speaker 4: It's something we've harped on now for three plus years.

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Speaker 4: Duke Tobin's been here, what twenty seven years now. I

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Speaker 4: don't think they've ever been more disconnected on the types

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Speaker 3: To do on the field. Yeah, And so for me,

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Speaker 3: to address the obvious? The obvious is historically bad defense,

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Speaker 4: But that part, to me is the interesting part. You

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Speaker 4: Not as athleticism or man. He was close to the

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Speaker 4: just not as fast as we want, not as explosive.

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Speaker 4: His measurables don't jump off the table. He's a first ballot,

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Speaker 4: thirty next year. They've missed the playoffs three straight years.

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Speaker 4: There's no more time to just develop and sit on

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Speaker 3: No more red shirt seasons.

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Speaker 3: must contribute. Yep, they they must make this team better

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Speaker 4: It wouldn't bother me. Okay, do you want to talk

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Speaker 3: not one of the things you ask going into the game. Hey,

439
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Speaker 3: if he gets that sack, is there anything out of

440
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Speaker 3: the ordinary that's gonna happen? And at that point you

441
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Speaker 3: could at least prepare your team and prepare yourself as

442
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Speaker 3: a play caller. Here's what's gonna happen if he gets

443
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Speaker 3: the sack?

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Speaker 4: Right?

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Speaker 3: Ain't that hard? Yeah?

446
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Speaker 4: That's another reason I would have second half. I'm taking

447
00:21:03,640 --> 00:21:06,200
Speaker 4: Joe out because you could feel the pressure mounting. Uh huh,

448
00:21:06,240 --> 00:21:07,760
Speaker 4: Like Miles Garrett's gonna do whatever he has to do

449
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Speaker 4: to get this sack.

450
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Speaker 3: Hey, we're putting them everywhere.

451
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Speaker 4: I'm good, Yes, Like I don't need to see anything else.

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Speaker 4: Speaking of that, the Michael Strahan comment about straight hand

453
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Speaker 4: did in sixteen games, Miles Garrett did in seventeen Any

454
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Speaker 4: problem with that?

455
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Speaker 3: It's context? Yeah, I mean it's you know, it's it's

456
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Speaker 3: Roger maher Is hitting sixty one in one hundred and

457
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Speaker 3: sixty two games versus Babe Ruth hitting sixteen one hundred

458
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Speaker 3: and fifty four. It's still an awesome accomplishment. Sure, but

459
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Speaker 3: I haven't looked at pass rush snaps, right, that's straight hand.

460
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Speaker 3: I haven't looked at that. I I apparently don't care.

461
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Speaker 3: It's the sack record. But if you want to apply

462
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Speaker 3: context and say, look this, dude did it in sixteen.

463
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Speaker 3: We used to play. We used to play twelve games.

464
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Speaker 3: We used to play fourteen games. I mean, we're gonna

465
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Speaker 3: play eighteen here soon, so you're you're gonna have more

466
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Speaker 3: and more of this.

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Speaker 4: What do you make of after the game? Jamar being

468
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Speaker 4: asked about any changes to the staff, did you get it,

469
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Speaker 4: make anything out of it, or just Jamar Jamar knows

470
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Speaker 4: what he's doing.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, jams Jamar knows what he's doing.

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Speaker 4: We always talked about Joe and count. Jamar is not

473
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Speaker 4: stupid either.

474
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Speaker 3: No. Yeah, I guess what I would ask Jamar is

475
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Speaker 3: if you lack confidence in the coaching staff, what changed

476
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Speaker 3: from when you signed your contract less than a year ago.

477
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Speaker 3: Was it simply this year went awry? Yeah? Like what

478
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Speaker 3: a year ago when you signed that contract? That for

479
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Speaker 3: about five minutes major the highest paid non quarterback in

480
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Speaker 3: the NFL. Did you have the utmost confidence coming off

481
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Speaker 3: a non playoff year? Did you have the utmost confidence

482
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Speaker 3: in the coaching staff and the organization? And was it

483
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Speaker 3: simply this year that took it from Hey, I'm uber

484
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Speaker 3: confidence and now I don't have as much.

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Speaker 4: The most fascinating thing, Wait, the answer is yes, I understand. Yeah,

486
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Speaker 4: the most fascinating thing that will come out of this

487
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Speaker 4: year is what happens next year, no doubt, because never

488
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Speaker 4: has there been more boiling points I feel like with

489
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Speaker 4: the organization, with the coaches, from a fan point of view,

490
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Speaker 4: and even a locker room point of view. Yeah, I

491
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Speaker 4: mean we talked a ton about Joe Burrow and the

492
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Speaker 4: psychology of what he was doing in Jamar Chase. This

493
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Speaker 4: becomes just a blip in the radar. If you're back

494
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Speaker 4: on schedule next year, if you're in the same situation

495
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Speaker 4: next year, you go from what it is this year,

496
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Speaker 4: it'll be double that next year, if not worse.

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Speaker 3: So the Joe Burrow era is going to be defined,

498
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Speaker 3: however long it is, whether it's a decade, whether it's fifteen,

499
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Speaker 3: whatever it is, will be defined by do they win

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Speaker 3: a championship. Now once they win one. If they do,

501
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Speaker 3: then you can talk about well winning two, winning three,

502
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Speaker 3: et cetera. But he was drafted number one overall to

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Speaker 3: win a championship. So if, if ultimately this offseason proves

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Speaker 3: to be what puts the Bengals in a position to

505
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Speaker 3: win a championship, then I think we'll look back on

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Speaker 3: twenty twenty five as a fortunate at the time. Sure,

507
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Speaker 3: but okay, yeah, they bounced back. I think this offseason,

508
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Speaker 3: if they win a title with Joe's quarterback, he's under

509
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Speaker 3: contract for four more years. I think this offseason is

510
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Speaker 3: going to be the reason why. And if they don't,

511
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Speaker 3: then this offseason is going to be the reason why.

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Speaker 3: I think it's it's It's that cut and dry for me.

513
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Speaker 4: Is that is how massive this offseason is.

514
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Speaker 3: If in the next four years they win a title,

515
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Speaker 3: it will be because players they acquired from outside, whether

516
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Speaker 3: it's in the draft or and free agency, and perhaps

517
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Speaker 3: some philosophical shift in the front office put this team

518
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Speaker 3: in a position to win a title over the next

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Speaker 3: four years. Yep. And if they failed, then this offseason

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Speaker 3: will probably prove to be a disaster.

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Speaker 4: Correct.

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Speaker 3: It is twenty six from four o'clock. Zach Taylor talks

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Speaker 3: in just under one hour on ESPN fifteen thirty. Cincinnati

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Speaker 3: his desk that both Duke Tobin and Zach Taylor will

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Speaker 3: resume We're continuing their roles. I should say as to

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Speaker 3: facto general manager and head coach, respectively. Bengals winding down

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Speaker 3: their season with a six and eleven record yesterday, falling

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Speaker 3: to the Browns at home. Cincinnati out of the playoffs

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Speaker 3: for a third consecutive year. There are NFL teams changing coaches.

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Speaker 3: The Browns have blacked Kevin Stefanski, the Raiders are moving

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Speaker 3: on from Pete Carroll, and the Cardinals fire Jonathan Gannon.

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Speaker 3: Rahe Morris last night, Rae Morris, last night you had

550
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Speaker 3: the coach of the Falcons. College basketball, the Miami RedHawks

551
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Speaker 3: up to thirtieth in the AP Top twenty five Men's poll.

552
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Speaker 3: Travis Steele's team winning over the weekend, remained undefeated over

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Speaker 3: Akron u l Louisville is twentieth. Ohio State takes on

554
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Speaker 3: Nebraska tonight. You like college basketball coaches shows, this is

555
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Speaker 3: your evening, Mark Pope Show, Richard Patino Show.

556
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Speaker 4: Louisville takes on Duke tomorrow at the Center. Had another

557
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Speaker 4: weekend out inside of North Carol, North Northern Kentucky and

558
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Speaker 4: Miami Kentucky got trouns at Alabama. Xavier loses that to

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Speaker 4: Paul and of course, the Bearcats lost to Houston.

560
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Speaker 3: Over turnover, turnover, two miss free throws, turnover, end of game,

561
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Speaker 3: desperation three in the final three minutes and fifty two seconds.

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Speaker 3: Ye have those reucs last six possessions? Yep. We'll maybe

563
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Speaker 3: spend more time on that a little bit later on.

564
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Speaker 3: Does Joe Burrow have a problem with balls being bat

565
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Speaker 3: at than the line of scrimmage?

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Speaker 2: No.

567
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Speaker 4: I think it is a little bit, since he's been

568
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Speaker 4: back of just trying to get the ballot quicker to

569
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Speaker 4: avoid the hits, And I think there's a fine line

570
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Speaker 4: in between holding on to it too long and getting

571
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Speaker 4: rid of it too quick. I think defensive lines adjusted

572
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Speaker 4: to the fact that you know they are getting the

573
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Speaker 4: ball out quick to protect Joe Burrow Moore. So instead

574
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Speaker 4: of the hard pass rush, you've had some more controlled

575
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Speaker 4: pass rush and guys getting their hands up. That's a

576
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Speaker 4: different blocking technique that takes different scheme and how you're

577
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Speaker 4: going to handle guys like that. So I think it's

578
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Speaker 4: just a small adjustment they need to make.

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Speaker 3: Evan McPherson had a good season. Yeah, he missed two

580
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Speaker 3: pats yesterday, was at all troublesome.

581
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Speaker 4: A little bit. I don't think you want to go

582
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Speaker 4: into an off season in a negative way like that.

583
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Speaker 4: For such a good year, to go into an off

584
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Speaker 4: season missing two extra points, it is not the biggest

585
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Speaker 4: sign of confidence moving forward. But I think bigger picture,

586
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Speaker 4: I think McPherson had a really good year.

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Speaker 3: Duke Tobin is going to meet with the media on Friday.

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Speaker 3: This is significant because this is not the sort of

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Speaker 3: thing that typically happens. Right, We've talked about it all

590
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Speaker 3: year long. Normally Zach Taylor has his season ending press

591
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Speaker 3: conference and that's it. Zach's gonna talk at four thirty.

592
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Speaker 3: Duke is usually made available at the Combine and then

593
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Speaker 3: he's there for media Day, Mock Turtles Soup Day, when

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Speaker 3: Mike Brown actually talks. Is there anything that Duke Tobin

595
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Speaker 3: could say on Friday that would make you feel good

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Speaker 3: about him returning in his role and the direction the

597
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Speaker 3: Bengals are poised to go.

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Speaker 4: No, nothing, because everything at this point is you need

599
00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:05,920
Speaker 4: to see it. Be great to hear it. Yeah, he's

600
00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:08,240
Speaker 4: always gonna say what's he gat Come out and say, well,

601
00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:10,840
Speaker 4: we're gonna we hope to be able to fix the defense.

602
00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:12,880
Speaker 4: Come out and said we're going to fix the defense. Now,

603
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Speaker 4: I'd love if he gives more details. I'd love if

604
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Speaker 4: he goes into a little bit of the draft evaluation

605
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Speaker 4: process and how they're evaluating free agents. I think that

606
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Speaker 4: would be key.

607
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Speaker 3: I think it would be interesting to hear his side

608
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Speaker 3: of why this didn't go well? Right, and again, he's

609
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Speaker 3: coming back. Everybody expected him to. But Duke, this was

610
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Speaker 3: your team, Yeah, and decisions you made this offseason, some

611
00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:44,120
Speaker 3: of which were good, right, Dalton Reisner was signed late,

612
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Speaker 3: that's a good acquisition. Sure, the Joe Flacco thing in

613
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Speaker 3: season that worked out. But I think it would be

614
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Speaker 3: interesting to hear his side of why this team so

615
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Speaker 3: dramatically underperformed. Yeah, why did your class not performed to

616
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Speaker 3: the level that you said prior to the draft it

617
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Speaker 3: needed to. If you could go back, what would you

618
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Speaker 3: have done differently as it relates to free agency? Were

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Speaker 3: you expecting some of the positions that you left to

620
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Speaker 3: go unaddressed? Are you surprised that things unfolded so poorly

621
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Speaker 3: at those spots?

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Speaker 6: Like?

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Speaker 3: I think getting his perspective on the season that just

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Speaker 3: happened would be interesting. I'm not sure there's anything he

625
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Speaker 3: could say about what's next. Yeah, that would make anybody

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Speaker 3: feel good about where they go from.

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Speaker 4: Here, and also like how far back are you going

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Speaker 4: to go with him? You gotta talk about Jermaine Burton

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Speaker 4: at all. That draft pick you're gonna talk about, you know,

630
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Speaker 4: Chris Jenkins and McKinley Jackson talk about where you know what?

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Speaker 4: How do you evaluate where the linebacker room is right now?

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Speaker 4: How are you evaluating safety going forward? You know, all

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Speaker 4: of those things I think would be fascinating, But to me,

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Speaker 4: it's more about what's the plan in place on the

635
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Speaker 4: changes they're gonna make. We heard or we read the

636
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Speaker 4: statement from Mike Brown and kind of looking at how

637
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Speaker 4: this offseason is going to be handled, how do you

638
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Speaker 4: envision that happening. I'm still fascinating in the working relationship

639
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Speaker 4: between Zach Taylor and Duke Tobin. I'm fascinated in the

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Speaker 4: evaluation process and how they compare measurables to actual film

641
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Speaker 4: work when looking at talent. And we've already alluded to this.

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Speaker 4: You want to make a statement, if you're Duke Tobin,

643
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Speaker 4: or you're Mike Brown, or you're this team, get the

644
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Speaker 4: Dalton Reisner deal done yes, and say hey, we're putting

645
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Speaker 4: this one in the in the in the rearview mirror.

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Speaker 4: We don't have to worry about this going forward. This

647
00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:34,360
Speaker 4: is done. Don't let him get to the market, don't

648
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Speaker 4: let another team overpay for him. Dalton Reisner said after

649
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Speaker 4: the game, this is where I want to be. I

650
00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:40,920
Speaker 4: want to play next to MEM's. I want to play

651
00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:44,320
Speaker 4: next to Karas. I like Scott Peters. I like this team.

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Speaker 4: It's not gonna it's not gonna break the bank. This

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Speaker 4: is the type of move that you get done now

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Speaker 4: and then okay, let's focus on the next thing. We

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Speaker 4: waited last year until the Higgins and Chase Steels got done,

656
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Speaker 4: and then it was like, okay, now the off season starting,

657
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Speaker 4: get this done now you As of now, they draft

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Speaker 4: tenth and they have a projected seventy seven point eight

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Speaker 4: million dollars in tap space. That's the seventh most in

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Speaker 4: all of football. They've got the money to spend. Yes,

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Speaker 4: how are you gonna go about doing it?

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Speaker 3: The Riisner thing to me is one of two true

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Speaker 3: litmus tests. I'll get to the other one in the

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Speaker 3: four o'clock hour. But the Reisner thing for me is

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Speaker 3: we say all the time, like make your layups. This

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Speaker 3: is a layup Yep. Here's a guy who played well,

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Speaker 3: who has stated publicly on multiple occasions, I want to

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Speaker 3: play here and I don't want to get to March. Hey,

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Speaker 3: Duke Tobin, go ahead and get it done. Like this

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Speaker 3: is of all the hard things Duke Tobin has on

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Speaker 3: his plate this offseason, this is the easiest one.

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Speaker 4: It'd be nice to go to that press conference Friday

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Speaker 4: too and be able to talk about, you know, hey,

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Speaker 4: we got this done.

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Speaker 3: I would invite Dalton Reisner and say, you want to

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Speaker 3: talk about coming back to Cincinnati, since here's the contract

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Speaker 3: we're gonna have you sign. Ye. Like, if you can't

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Speaker 3: do the easy, then you can't do the hard, right.

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Speaker 3: They have a lot of hard work in front of them.

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Speaker 3: This could not be easier, and then you at least

681
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Speaker 3: go into the off season going our offensive line is set.

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Speaker 4: Yep.

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Speaker 3: You can find depth pieces, maybe a long term replacement

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Speaker 3: for Orlando Brown. I get it. But the five guys

685
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Speaker 3: we had play on the offensive line of the second

686
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Speaker 3: half of the season, that's gonna be our offensive line. Yep.

687
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Speaker 3: Like make your layups. Dalton Reisner is giving you the

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Speaker 3: ball under the rim. Make the layup. This is simple.

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Speaker 4: Dunket shoot a floater.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, talking about the working relationship between Zach and Joe,

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Speaker 3: and it's why I cut Zach a little slack. I

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Speaker 3: would be willing to bet that if you said to

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Speaker 3: Zach Taylor going into last offseason, what do you want

694
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Speaker 3: to do on defense? He wouldn't say TJ Slayton oron

695
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Speaker 3: Burks and draft some guys. I'm gonna guess, if you,

696
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Speaker 3: as Zach Taylor he had no interest in watching the

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Speaker 3: Trey Hendrickson drama unfold again for another offseason, I'm gonna guess,

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Speaker 3: if you, as Zach Taylor, the unending tract issues that

699
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Speaker 3: this team has been wrestling with for years, I would

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Speaker 3: be willing to bet like he wants those things resolved

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Speaker 3: as quickly as possible. And so there, to me is

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Speaker 3: where the alignment comes from. Right. It's not they're gonna

703
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Speaker 3: have disagreements on which players to draft, They're gonna have

704
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Speaker 3: disagreements on which players to sign keep and all of that.

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Speaker 3: But like some of the stuff that makes the coaches

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Speaker 3: job more difficult, like that stuff I just outlined, I

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Speaker 3: there's where the alignment comes in. Yep, Hey, Duke, Mike, Katie,

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Speaker 3: you guys ensure that when I'm coaching my team, I

709
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Speaker 3: don't have to deal with side shows. I don't have

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Speaker 3: to deal with distractions. I don't have to deal with

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Speaker 3: the questions I will get about a player you haven't signed.

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Speaker 3: That to me is where the alignment comes in.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and again I would also bring up to Duke

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Speaker 4: the distractions, as you mentioned, like how do you go

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Speaker 4: into this offseason making sure you avoid those distractions? You know,

716
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Speaker 4: because last year it was a distraction with Shamar Stewart,

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Speaker 4: it was a distraction with Trey Hendrickson, say what you

718
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Speaker 4: want we were down there at camp. That became a

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Speaker 4: distraction every single day because you're answering the same questions

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Speaker 4: once you know, the lead up to Jamar and t

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Speaker 4: getting done and then what's going to happen next? Nothing

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Speaker 4: really did. That became more of a talking point what

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Speaker 4: can this organization do, Duke to avoid those distractions?

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Speaker 3: And I think you have to look at the players

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Speaker 3: in that twenty three class that are up for extensions

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Speaker 3: a year left on their deal. Is there a player

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Speaker 3: of there that, if they don't get theirs right, becomes

728
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Speaker 3: a hold in or a hold out or goes on

729
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Speaker 3: to posture publicly the way Trey Hendrickson did. Maybe the

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Speaker 3: answers are no. But among those players that include DJ

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Speaker 3: Turner and Chase Brown and Andrea yoshavas that twenty twenty

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Speaker 3: three class, is there a player that if you don't

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Speaker 3: sign now it becomes a problem. And if the answer

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Speaker 3: is yes, then a the problem.

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Speaker 4: Could you imagine early on Reisner gets done and you

736
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Speaker 4: get Chase Brown and a team friendly deal. Awesome, and

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Speaker 4: you now say to your offense, what's great start, Maybe

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Speaker 4: maybe we'll address wide receiver three. Outside of that, we're good. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: Now let's hone in on the defensive side of the ball.

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Speaker 4: And not only good, you'd be good for three or

741
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Speaker 4: four seasons now going forward, at least if.

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Speaker 3: They got the Dalton Reisner thing done and then you know,

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Speaker 3: if you want to add Chase Brown to it, what

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Speaker 3: a luxury like? That's the thing. I know this is

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Speaker 3: not the first time I've talked about this, but there's

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Speaker 3: a lot of gms or gms who will be hired.

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Speaker 3: But eighteen general managers have to take teams that didn't

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Speaker 3: make the postseason and find a way to turn them

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Speaker 3: into postseason teams next year. How many of them on

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Speaker 3: one side of the ball are set, right, I'm guessing.

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Speaker 4: One mean, how many out of the coaching jobs that

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Speaker 4: are vacant now, right? Are are you looking at to

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Speaker 4: an We're good there.

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Speaker 3: I mean, get Dalton Reisner back in the fold, and

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00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:06,600
Speaker 3: again you'll draft for depth on the offensive line, and

756
00:37:06,640 --> 00:37:09,200
Speaker 3: there's a good conversation about the third wide receiver and

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Speaker 3: if they don't bring Noah Fan back, maybe somebody who's

758
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Speaker 3: the twenty twenty six version of him. But you are set,

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00:37:16,120 --> 00:37:19,399
Speaker 3: You are good. Like, there's a lot of gms who

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00:37:19,600 --> 00:37:22,040
Speaker 3: failed this year who have to get to work on

761
00:37:22,200 --> 00:37:25,800
Speaker 3: next year starting today, and their roster is a mess,

762
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Speaker 3: or they don't know who their quarterback is going to be.

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Speaker 3: None of them have a side of the ball that

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Speaker 3: you could legitimately leave untouched and be okay.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean look at like, look across teams that

766
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Speaker 4: are no longer playing this year going into next year.

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Speaker 4: So even the Kansas City Chiefs have massive questions on

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Speaker 4: both sides of the.

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Speaker 3: Ball, including their quarterback's health.

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Speaker 4: Correct, Yeah, you know Lamar and the Ravens massive questions. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: on both sides of the ball. You can go up

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Speaker 4: and down the list. It's not that case here. It's

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Speaker 4: a simple deal with Dalton Reisner, and you don't have

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Speaker 4: any questions on that side of the ball.

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Speaker 3: Nine minutes away from four o'clock, I think Dalt Reisner

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Speaker 3: is one of the litmus tests that will prove whether

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Speaker 3: or not things are different. I think there's another one

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Speaker 3: we'll get to in the four o'clock hour. We're here

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Speaker 3: About a minute here where Twin Peaks in Florence, Tonia,

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Speaker 3: moh Football show, Steelers win the AFC North. Fourth quarter

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Speaker 3: of that game last night was an absolute blast. Tyler Loop,

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Speaker 3: the Ravens rookie kicker misses a field goal that would

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Speaker 3: have given the Ravens the AFC North title. My issue

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Speaker 3: was Lamar Jackson had some moments in the fourth quarter

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Speaker 3: in that game. I was rooting for Baltimore because I

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Speaker 3: can't stand the Steelers. Yeah, I wanted Lamar to have

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Speaker 3: a chance to throw the ball on the end zone

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Speaker 3: before they kick the field goal.

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Speaker 4: I don't even care about end zone. But you got

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Speaker 4: Zay Flowers who had went off in the fourth quarter,

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Speaker 4: you got Mark Andrews, Isaiah likely just made an awesome catch.

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Speaker 4: Give someone else a chance to maybe take it from

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Speaker 4: a forty four yarder to a thirty five yarder. You know,

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Speaker 4: I'm sitting there and I'm like, in my mind, I'm

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Speaker 4: doing the man like that's still like a forty five

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Speaker 4: yard field goal. A gimme And they line up and

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Speaker 4: they just kind of do the center of the ball,

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Speaker 4: and I'm like, You've got to time out, go like

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Speaker 4: stay aggressive, Yeah, do not put it on again. It's

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Speaker 4: it's historically not the easiest stadium to kick in. Wins

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Speaker 4: always kind of swirls and I'll just miss one forty four,

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Speaker 4: get another ten yards. Yeah, it just and if it's

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Speaker 4: not there, you throw it away and then you do

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Speaker 4: the same thing you just did.

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Speaker 3: I just Lamar helped put them in a position to win.

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Speaker 3: I am gonna run as many plays as I possibly

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Speaker 3: can and say what you want about how he had

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Speaker 3: played in the first three quarters. He was terrific in

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Speaker 3: the fourth. Yep, that's my two time MVP, right it.

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Speaker 3: I want more plays with him, and I'll kick the

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Speaker 3: field goal as basically a last resist.

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Speaker 4: And I know that he's taken some heat this year

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Speaker 4: and and I think rightfully so at times. But without

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Speaker 4: DK Metcalf, they've got Adam Thielen. They just mixed in

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Speaker 4: Austin Is catching touchdown passes. I thought Rogers made some

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Speaker 4: of his best throws of the year in that second

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Speaker 4: half last night, specifically on third downs when they needed

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Speaker 4: it the most. That third down throat of fire mouth,

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Speaker 4: the third down throw to to Feeling, that was.

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Speaker 3: The throw to Friarmuth was vintage at that time.

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Speaker 4: Vintage Jaron Rodgers. I still don't know why.

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Speaker 3: Having shout Oba he was a fall down helps.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know still why they didn't try it

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Speaker 4: all to pressure him because he's essentially a statue at

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Speaker 4: this point in his career. Yeah, in the pocket, but

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Speaker 4: made it. Rogers made some good plays. They'll get DK

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Speaker 4: Metcalf back. I still don't think they beat the Texans,

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Speaker 4: but they have won twenty three straight home Monday Night

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Speaker 4: football games.

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Speaker 3: They have, and we'll see if.

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Speaker 4: They can shut out Mike Tomlin pound in his chest

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Speaker 4: after the missed field goal, But first of.

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Speaker 3: All, like when they took the lead, he was celebrating

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Speaker 3: like they had won. Yeah. Steelers looking for their first

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Speaker 3: postseason victory since the twenty sixteen season. They will host

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Speaker 3: the Texans on Monday Night Football as three and a

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Speaker 3: half point dogs, an offseason litmus test for the Bengals.

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Speaker 3: for joining us. It is the season finale. Unfortunately, just

869
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Speaker 3: once one more time. I want to go back to

870
00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:48,440
Speaker 3: doing these shows in late January, maybe in February, that

871
00:42:48,480 --> 00:42:49,040
Speaker 3: would be awesome.

872
00:42:49,040 --> 00:42:49,560
Speaker 4: That was fun.

873
00:42:49,840 --> 00:42:51,719
Speaker 3: It was a lot of fun. We're having fun today

874
00:42:51,840 --> 00:42:54,640
Speaker 3: till six o'clock. If you have not been to Twin Peaks,

875
00:42:54,640 --> 00:42:56,200
Speaker 3: then you have not been to one of our shows,

876
00:42:56,239 --> 00:42:59,520
Speaker 3: and well that's on you. We are winding down our

877
00:42:59,640 --> 00:43:04,479
Speaker 3: sixth year here at Twin Peaks. The staff is always amazing. Yes,

878
00:43:04,560 --> 00:43:07,680
Speaker 3: the food is terrific. I got the meatball skillet, went

879
00:43:07,719 --> 00:43:11,000
Speaker 3: back to my roots. Meatball skillet. You had the pot roads.

880
00:43:11,040 --> 00:43:13,160
Speaker 4: Sometimes you got to go back to go forward.

881
00:43:13,200 --> 00:43:15,560
Speaker 3: You do, you do, and so I did that today.

882
00:43:16,040 --> 00:43:18,520
Speaker 3: Here at Twin Peaks, awesome place to watch all the

883
00:43:18,640 --> 00:43:22,560
Speaker 3: playoff games this weekend pro and college college basketball as well.

884
00:43:23,000 --> 00:43:25,960
Speaker 3: We are here until six o'clock. Zach Taylor is scheduled

885
00:43:25,960 --> 00:43:27,880
Speaker 3: to talk at four thirty. We'll carry that for you

886
00:43:27,960 --> 00:43:30,160
Speaker 3: live on the day we found out that he is

887
00:43:30,239 --> 00:43:33,680
Speaker 3: coming back, and Duke Tobin is going to maintain his

888
00:43:33,719 --> 00:43:38,879
Speaker 3: current role as well. You mentioned the Dalton Reisner thing

889
00:43:39,400 --> 00:43:43,480
Speaker 3: as being a layup, and it is right. If you

890
00:43:43,520 --> 00:43:46,360
Speaker 3: want to do the hard, then do the easy first.

891
00:43:46,480 --> 00:43:49,160
Speaker 3: And doing the easy for me is you have a

892
00:43:49,200 --> 00:43:52,640
Speaker 3: player who has helped, who is not that expensive, who

893
00:43:52,680 --> 00:43:56,040
Speaker 3: has stated publicly a desire to stay here and not

894
00:43:56,120 --> 00:43:59,239
Speaker 3: even hit free agency. Yep, go ahead and get that done.

895
00:43:59,320 --> 00:44:03,120
Speaker 3: That is a litt If things are truly different, they

896
00:44:03,200 --> 00:44:06,399
Speaker 3: go ahead. This doesn't get to march. This is done

897
00:44:06,480 --> 00:44:09,440
Speaker 3: this week. The other litmus test for me is this,

898
00:44:10,480 --> 00:44:13,960
Speaker 3: they obviously need defensive upgrades. I find it hard to

899
00:44:13,960 --> 00:44:16,240
Speaker 3: believe they're not going to go find some in free agency.

900
00:44:16,960 --> 00:44:19,200
Speaker 3: I think they'll find or try to get a three technique,

901
00:44:19,760 --> 00:44:21,680
Speaker 3: certainly can make a case for a pass rusher. We'll

902
00:44:21,680 --> 00:44:24,440
Speaker 3: see what they do with Joseph Osai. My guess is

903
00:44:24,520 --> 00:44:26,200
Speaker 3: they find some help in the back end as well,

904
00:44:26,200 --> 00:44:30,400
Speaker 3: specifically at safety. To me, the ultimate litmus test that

905
00:44:30,480 --> 00:44:34,320
Speaker 3: will prove that things are changing with the same people,

906
00:44:34,600 --> 00:44:38,000
Speaker 3: or that not only has the status quo remain ing,

907
00:44:38,280 --> 00:44:40,839
Speaker 3: but some of the things that they typically do will

908
00:44:40,880 --> 00:44:45,040
Speaker 3: remain will be at linebacker. I am really curious if

909
00:44:45,040 --> 00:44:48,000
Speaker 3: they look at Demetrius Knight and Barrett Carter and go,

910
00:44:48,360 --> 00:44:52,160
Speaker 3: you know what, they were rookies, they piled up experience

911
00:44:52,760 --> 00:44:56,120
Speaker 3: and they're automatically going to be better, or if they go,

912
00:44:56,600 --> 00:44:59,120
Speaker 3: maybe those guys are good NFL players one day, but

913
00:44:59,200 --> 00:45:01,439
Speaker 3: we can't take a chance ants We're gonna go find

914
00:45:01,520 --> 00:45:05,200
Speaker 3: established starters at that position. That to me is the

915
00:45:05,200 --> 00:45:07,840
Speaker 3: true litmus test as to whether or not they're really

916
00:45:07,880 --> 00:45:11,120
Speaker 3: gonna be aggressive this offseason what they do at linebacker.

917
00:45:11,360 --> 00:45:14,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, because if you want to be considered a true

918
00:45:14,560 --> 00:45:17,879
Speaker 4: title contender, can you genuinely say you are if those

919
00:45:17,880 --> 00:45:21,680
Speaker 4: two started linebacker, right The answer is no. Again, unless

920
00:45:21,680 --> 00:45:24,160
Speaker 4: they take the biggest jump we've ever seen from year

921
00:45:24,200 --> 00:45:27,080
Speaker 4: one to year two. It's not gonna happen. Demitrius Knight

922
00:45:27,800 --> 00:45:29,880
Speaker 4: also not a twenty year old with a ton of upside.

923
00:45:30,360 --> 00:45:32,239
Speaker 4: He's already kind of established he is what he is

924
00:45:32,280 --> 00:45:36,239
Speaker 4: at this point. Barrett Carter I just didn't see it.

925
00:45:36,719 --> 00:45:38,160
Speaker 4: From the start of the year to the end of

926
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Speaker 4: the year. There wasn't much improvement though. There wasn't progression,

927
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Speaker 4: There wasn't development. If this is genuinely different, then you say,

928
00:45:47,400 --> 00:45:50,920
Speaker 4: you know what, hand up, we made the mistake. We

929
00:45:50,960 --> 00:45:53,440
Speaker 4: can't afford to run it back again. That needs to

930
00:45:53,480 --> 00:45:56,480
Speaker 4: be addressed. And if Demetrius Knight's all you all of

931
00:45:56,520 --> 00:46:00,040
Speaker 4: a sudden you're third linebacker and Barrett Carter is a

932
00:46:00,200 --> 00:46:04,480
Speaker 4: fourth and is a great special teams contributor, awesome. Yeah,

933
00:46:04,520 --> 00:46:08,680
Speaker 4: but if you're serious about winning a championship, you're you're

934
00:46:08,760 --> 00:46:10,920
Speaker 4: serious about who's playing linebacker on your defense.

935
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Speaker 3: To me, if you're seriously proactive in the quest for

936
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Speaker 3: a championship, you don't simply go, well, you know what,

937
00:46:18,120 --> 00:46:21,719
Speaker 3: with another season of seasoning, another training camp, a full offseason,

938
00:46:21,760 --> 00:46:23,759
Speaker 3: those guys will be better. You go find players who

939
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Speaker 3: are upgrades. You go find established players who are upgrades

940
00:46:27,320 --> 00:46:29,960
Speaker 3: at that position. And so to me, that's gonna be

941
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Speaker 3: the most telling one. If we get to training camp

942
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Speaker 3: and we're talking to ourselves back into Knight and Carter

943
00:46:36,200 --> 00:46:41,080
Speaker 3: being significantly better as second year players as starters, something

944
00:46:41,080 --> 00:46:42,359
Speaker 3: in my opinion will have gone wrong.

945
00:46:42,400 --> 00:46:44,280
Speaker 4: But that's the thing, Like, here we go, there's already

946
00:46:44,280 --> 00:46:47,160
Speaker 4: a handful of guys on defense that I can confidently say.

947
00:46:47,719 --> 00:46:49,880
Speaker 4: If we get to next year and we're at training

948
00:46:49,920 --> 00:46:53,200
Speaker 4: camp and we're watching this player, then how can they

949
00:46:53,200 --> 00:46:57,520
Speaker 4: be serious about winning? Like and again, in no way

950
00:46:57,960 --> 00:46:59,480
Speaker 4: do I think it could happen, because I do think

951
00:46:59,480 --> 00:47:01,440
Speaker 4: it'd be the break point for a lot of Bengal fans.

952
00:47:01,960 --> 00:47:04,040
Speaker 4: There's no path in which you can convince anyone that

953
00:47:04,080 --> 00:47:05,600
Speaker 4: Genostone should be on this team.

954
00:47:05,680 --> 00:47:07,520
Speaker 3: So I've got the list of players who are due

955
00:47:07,560 --> 00:47:10,040
Speaker 3: to be free agents. I have him on the list

956
00:47:10,120 --> 00:47:13,719
Speaker 3: because due diligence. Sure, there's no way in hell right

957
00:47:13,800 --> 00:47:14,360
Speaker 3: you can't.

958
00:47:14,760 --> 00:47:18,200
Speaker 4: Can you imagine the pushback? Can you imagine the back.

959
00:47:18,120 --> 00:47:22,120
Speaker 3: Life I can in a lifetime of being disappointed by

960
00:47:22,160 --> 00:47:25,600
Speaker 3: this franchise. I don't know that I would have reached

961
00:47:25,600 --> 00:47:29,759
Speaker 3: a tipping point that I would reach. If we found

962
00:47:29,800 --> 00:47:31,719
Speaker 3: out that Genostone is coming back to play for this team,

963
00:47:31,760 --> 00:47:34,360
Speaker 3: a player they asked to take a pay cut, yep,

964
00:47:34,680 --> 00:47:38,680
Speaker 3: who was genuinely bad this season. I don't know how

965
00:47:38,719 --> 00:47:42,839
Speaker 3: you do it, yep. So I will assume that Genostone

966
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Speaker 3: plays elsewhere next season. Hey better, All right, let's run

967
00:47:45,480 --> 00:47:48,960
Speaker 3: through some of these guys. Trey Hendrickson, now listed on

968
00:47:49,080 --> 00:47:52,160
Speaker 3: NFL dot com, is the second best available free agent

969
00:47:52,200 --> 00:47:53,240
Speaker 3: this offseason. Nope.

970
00:47:53,920 --> 00:47:56,160
Speaker 4: I After what I saw this year from Trey Hendrickson,

971
00:47:56,239 --> 00:47:58,400
Speaker 4: or what I didn't see from Trey Hendrickson, and what

972
00:47:58,480 --> 00:48:00,640
Speaker 4: we witnessed in the offseason in the circus that went

973
00:48:00,640 --> 00:48:01,839
Speaker 4: around that, I'm good.

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Speaker 3: Move on, no franchise tag, no Joseph Osai.

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00:48:05,600 --> 00:48:08,200
Speaker 4: That's the hardest one, I think. I think on defense,

976
00:48:08,280 --> 00:48:10,760
Speaker 4: that's the hardest one, because I think fair market value

977
00:48:11,320 --> 00:48:15,600
Speaker 4: is gonna put him thirteen fourteen million dollars on a

978
00:48:15,719 --> 00:48:20,600
Speaker 4: defense that you can't miss on that still feels like

979
00:48:20,640 --> 00:48:21,160
Speaker 4: a gamble.

980
00:48:22,880 --> 00:48:28,920
Speaker 3: Joe Flacco, Yes, I agree, no offense. I'm good.

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Speaker 4: If I got to watch another one of his fumbles

982
00:48:31,640 --> 00:48:35,480
Speaker 4: return for a touchdown, three return for touchdowns all the

983
00:48:35,560 --> 00:48:40,600
Speaker 4: same way, Yeah, I'm good And especially if I know

984
00:48:40,960 --> 00:48:43,440
Speaker 4: and and hopefully the progression of Eric Hall is on

985
00:48:43,480 --> 00:48:44,080
Speaker 4: the right track.

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00:48:44,520 --> 00:48:47,759
Speaker 3: Well, man, I like Eric all and he looked a

987
00:48:47,800 --> 00:48:50,040
Speaker 3: part when he was healthy. I can't count on that,

988
00:48:50,200 --> 00:48:53,759
Speaker 3: but I feel like there's always a version of Noah fan.

989
00:48:54,040 --> 00:48:56,759
Speaker 3: Yes there, you're gonna find that. There's hay urst Yep,

990
00:48:56,880 --> 00:48:59,719
Speaker 3: right there. There's always a version of Noah fan out

991
00:48:59,719 --> 00:49:03,880
Speaker 3: there who hopefully doesn't fumble. Cam Taylor Britt.

992
00:49:04,600 --> 00:49:08,839
Speaker 4: If it's a slot team friendly deal, I guess I'm

993
00:49:08,880 --> 00:49:11,759
Speaker 4: not paying him to be an outside guy anymore. There

994
00:49:11,800 --> 00:49:13,680
Speaker 4: was a time two years ago he was gonna be

995
00:49:13,680 --> 00:49:16,000
Speaker 4: your number one, and then this year he's gonna be

996
00:49:16,040 --> 00:49:18,520
Speaker 4: the number two. Play outside. He couldn't do either of those.

997
00:49:19,200 --> 00:49:22,200
Speaker 4: There's there's just too much noise around it. I would

998
00:49:22,239 --> 00:49:22,960
Speaker 4: prefer to move on.

999
00:49:23,239 --> 00:49:25,120
Speaker 3: In consecutive years he has been benched.

1000
00:49:26,480 --> 00:49:29,759
Speaker 4: T Hudson, I think there's a value for him.

1001
00:49:29,800 --> 00:49:32,200
Speaker 3: I agree Cam Sample.

1002
00:49:34,480 --> 00:49:38,600
Speaker 4: If if Cam Sample is your fifth guy, I'm good

1003
00:49:38,640 --> 00:49:38,880
Speaker 4: with it.

1004
00:49:40,040 --> 00:49:44,360
Speaker 3: Jake Browning, No, I'm good. I mean you kind of

1005
00:49:44,360 --> 00:49:44,799
Speaker 3: answered that.

1006
00:49:44,800 --> 00:49:52,520
Speaker 4: When would you take I saw this today, Joe Flaccill

1007
00:49:52,520 --> 00:49:56,440
Speaker 4: bring him back? Would if there's a prospect six or

1008
00:49:56,440 --> 00:49:59,200
Speaker 4: seventh round would you bring in a quarterback? Somebody called

1009
00:49:59,239 --> 00:50:03,600
Speaker 4: him today and said, like, where you take him? Your

1010
00:50:04,000 --> 00:50:06,680
Speaker 4: storm on the third third team? Flacco hangs it up

1011
00:50:06,719 --> 00:50:08,040
Speaker 4: after their year or so, and then you get a

1012
00:50:08,040 --> 00:50:08,319
Speaker 4: back up.

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00:50:08,360 --> 00:50:11,480
Speaker 3: I guess it would be Drew Aller or who else?

1014
00:50:11,680 --> 00:50:13,919
Speaker 3: And can who else help me win next year? Now?

1015
00:50:14,040 --> 00:50:18,160
Speaker 3: In the sixth rounds? Right? You know, keep in mind

1016
00:50:18,200 --> 00:50:21,680
Speaker 3: what you're getting for sure, But can that pick be

1017
00:50:21,800 --> 00:50:24,400
Speaker 3: used on a player who helps me win football games?

1018
00:50:24,440 --> 00:50:26,880
Speaker 3: Because if I take a quarterback, that player is not

1019
00:50:26,960 --> 00:50:29,319
Speaker 3: helping me win football games in twenty twenty six. Not

1020
00:50:29,480 --> 00:50:33,640
Speaker 3: that you shouldn't be thinking about the quarterback position, specifically

1021
00:50:33,680 --> 00:50:36,799
Speaker 3: the backup spot, even because of history. Flacco is going

1022
00:50:36,880 --> 00:50:38,239
Speaker 3: to be forty one years old in the week and

1023
00:50:38,280 --> 00:50:41,080
Speaker 3: a half and Joe's been hurt. Like, I understand it,

1024
00:50:41,120 --> 00:50:46,080
Speaker 3: But it is there a player that I'm saying no

1025
00:50:46,239 --> 00:50:49,160
Speaker 3: to that has a better chance of helping me this year? Sure,

1026
00:50:50,280 --> 00:50:54,120
Speaker 3: but you know there's a case that can be made

1027
00:50:54,640 --> 00:50:57,319
Speaker 3: for your long term backup, for a Jake Browning type

1028
00:50:57,440 --> 00:50:59,200
Speaker 3: that you kind of stashed for a while, get up

1029
00:50:59,200 --> 00:51:01,000
Speaker 3: to speed and then he's the guy. Sure you would

1030
00:51:01,080 --> 00:51:03,319
Speaker 3: just hope that the next time he's has to play.

1031
00:51:03,360 --> 00:51:06,799
Speaker 3: He's better than Jake Browning. Yes, all right, quarter after four.

1032
00:51:07,560 --> 00:51:09,879
Speaker 3: We're gonna give out some pretend hardware in a five

1033
00:51:09,960 --> 00:51:14,320
Speaker 3: minutes in award season, Zach Taylor in fifteen minutes award season,

1034
00:51:14,360 --> 00:51:16,680
Speaker 3: awards season. Yes, we one day we should come up

1035
00:51:16,680 --> 00:51:20,120
Speaker 3: with real awards. Vote of confidence tail players. Yeah, yeah,

1036
00:51:20,320 --> 00:51:21,960
Speaker 3: Zach Taylor ain't going anywhere.

1037
00:51:22,080 --> 00:51:24,400
Speaker 4: I saw that Orlando brown got like the media award today.

1038
00:51:24,920 --> 00:51:27,399
Speaker 3: I did see that. Yeah, good for him. Uh, we're

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00:51:27,440 --> 00:51:30,960
Speaker 3: at the Twin Peaks location in Florence. This is the

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Speaker 3: Tony in Moments.

1041
00:51:31,800 --> 00:51:33,200
Speaker 4: For being nice to the media on.

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Speaker 2: This reported your official home for the Cincinnati Bengals, ESPN

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Speaker 2: fifteen thirty after four.

1054
00:52:19,680 --> 00:52:22,799
Speaker 3: This is ESPN fifteen thirty. We are, if he's on time,

1055
00:52:22,960 --> 00:52:26,759
Speaker 3: nine minutes away from an Zach Taylor presscommence that we

1056
00:52:26,800 --> 00:52:30,640
Speaker 3: will carry for you live on ESPN fifteen thirty. I

1057
00:52:30,719 --> 00:52:35,680
Speaker 3: want to hand out some pretend hardware. Love it all right,

1058
00:52:35,800 --> 00:52:38,879
Speaker 3: very good? Let's go Defensive Rookie of the Year.

1059
00:52:40,000 --> 00:52:46,640
Speaker 4: Um, This, to me, I think is pretty easy. I

1060
00:52:46,640 --> 00:52:50,040
Speaker 4: think it's Schweizinger from the Cleveland Browns. I think he's

1061
00:52:50,040 --> 00:52:53,040
Speaker 4: gonna run away with it. I do think though, that

1062
00:52:53,200 --> 00:52:55,920
Speaker 4: as the year came to a close, I think I

1063
00:52:56,040 --> 00:52:58,200
Speaker 4: dual Carter played better down the stretch for the Giants

1064
00:52:58,200 --> 00:53:00,960
Speaker 4: as well. It's crazy when you look at like the

1065
00:53:00,960 --> 00:53:04,080
Speaker 4: the list and and people receiving votes. A lot of

1066
00:53:04,080 --> 00:53:06,960
Speaker 4: players that we talked about leading up to the draft.

1067
00:53:07,160 --> 00:53:12,080
Speaker 4: John Campbell, James Pierce is on that list. A couple

1068
00:53:12,080 --> 00:53:14,600
Speaker 4: of the Bengals that that we talked about leading into

1069
00:53:14,600 --> 00:53:17,320
Speaker 4: the year. Demetrius Knight will not make the list.

1070
00:53:17,440 --> 00:53:20,719
Speaker 3: No, nor will Bearon Carter. No Offensive Rookie of the Year.

1071
00:53:22,480 --> 00:53:25,440
Speaker 4: This to me, like when the season started or when

1072
00:53:25,440 --> 00:53:28,640
Speaker 4: the season was, like midway through, I thought this was

1073
00:53:28,760 --> 00:53:34,280
Speaker 4: easily uh Abuca and he has just completely fallen off.

1074
00:53:35,600 --> 00:53:37,160
Speaker 3: I would have I would have thought midway through the

1075
00:53:37,160 --> 00:53:38,200
Speaker 3: season to be Tyler Warren.

1076
00:53:38,760 --> 00:53:41,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, he kind of fell off too. So I think

1077
00:53:41,880 --> 00:53:45,600
Speaker 4: coming on as of late uh and and what he

1078
00:53:45,680 --> 00:53:48,799
Speaker 4: was would mean to them making the playoffs. McMillan coming

1079
00:53:48,800 --> 00:53:51,879
Speaker 4: out of Arizona with the Carolina Panthers, I think him

1080
00:53:51,920 --> 00:53:55,759
Speaker 4: and Bryce Young have created something really, really good and

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Speaker 4: I think they're gonna build on that with the Panthers.

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Speaker 3: You gotta comeback Player of the Year.

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00:54:00,239 --> 00:54:01,640
Speaker 4: You put Christian McCaffrey in there.

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00:54:02,120 --> 00:54:05,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, I would go Hutchinson. Yeah, I mean if I

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00:54:05,840 --> 00:54:10,680
Speaker 3: get injury, Lions Fizzle still had his career high in sacks. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I just think McCaffrey was awesome this year. Like, there

1087
00:54:14,320 --> 00:54:16,160
Speaker 4: are cases you can make about him being the MVP.

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00:54:16,320 --> 00:54:18,200
Speaker 4: I know he won't. You can make a case for

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00:54:18,280 --> 00:54:21,400
Speaker 4: Offensive Player of the Year. There's a comeback player I

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00:54:21,400 --> 00:54:21,879
Speaker 4: think is there.

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Speaker 3: There's a case for Christiana Lobby as well. Yeah. Good year.

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Speaker 3: Coach of the Year. This is the most difficult one.

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00:54:29,920 --> 00:54:34,480
Speaker 4: Take your pick. I looked at the odds earlier. Demico

1094
00:54:34,560 --> 00:54:37,080
Speaker 4: Ryans isn't even on the list in the top six.

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00:54:37,880 --> 00:54:41,560
Speaker 4: Sean Payton, two years in, has taken a rookie and

1096
00:54:41,560 --> 00:54:44,760
Speaker 4: Bow Knickson is the one seed in the AFC, he's sixth.

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00:54:45,200 --> 00:54:48,640
Speaker 4: Kyle Shanahan and what he's done with that San Francisco

1098
00:54:48,680 --> 00:54:50,279
Speaker 4: team and being depleted with injuries a lot of the

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00:54:50,360 --> 00:54:52,080
Speaker 4: year is fifth. He would get it if I was

1100
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Speaker 4: Liam Cohen. I mean, Jacksonville was playing for the number

1101
00:54:55,800 --> 00:54:59,920
Speaker 4: one seed yesterday. Mike McDonald, what he's done in Seattle,

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00:55:00,120 --> 00:55:03,799
Speaker 4: one seed in the NFC. Ben Johnson has mage the

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00:55:03,800 --> 00:55:06,399
Speaker 4: Bears a two seed in his first year. I still

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00:55:06,440 --> 00:55:09,200
Speaker 4: give it to Rabel. I look at how how far

1105
00:55:09,280 --> 00:55:12,680
Speaker 4: away that team seemed last year and who they are now.

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00:55:13,360 --> 00:55:16,120
Speaker 4: I think Vrabel's mine, But I I you can legitimately

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00:55:16,120 --> 00:55:19,080
Speaker 4: make a case for seven coaches, and if you say.

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Speaker 3: McVeigh, if you say Zach Tayman, we'll keep it at eight.

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00:55:23,200 --> 00:55:29,640
Speaker 3: Defensive Player of the Year Miles Garrett. I like his chances.

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Speaker 3: Offensive Player of the Year.

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00:55:32,360 --> 00:55:36,439
Speaker 4: Oh Man uh Poka Nakua leads the NFL in receptions.

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Speaker 4: Jackson Smith and Jigba is the best player on the

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Speaker 4: best team in the NFC. I will give it to

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Speaker 4: JSN because of just how consistent he was, and I

1115
00:55:51,080 --> 00:55:54,200
Speaker 4: think it says more about him doing it with Darnold. Yes,

1116
00:55:54,400 --> 00:55:58,400
Speaker 4: Pookah fantastic. In all likelihood, the MVP is going to

1117
00:55:58,440 --> 00:56:00,879
Speaker 4: be Matt Matthew Stafford, That's who was throwing him the ball.

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00:56:01,160 --> 00:56:03,760
Speaker 4: I'll give it to JSN MVP.

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00:56:04,160 --> 00:56:05,680
Speaker 3: I think Stafford is going to win it.

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Speaker 4: I think Stafford Jenner. I think if the votes led

1121
00:56:07,719 --> 00:56:09,440
Speaker 4: all the way up through the finish of the playoffs,

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Speaker 4: it might be Drake May.

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Speaker 3: I think it should be Drake May.

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00:56:12,719 --> 00:56:12,959
Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: People are going to talk about in New England's schedule,

1126
00:56:15,080 --> 00:56:20,120
Speaker 3: understandably so. But when the Rams and Patriots, when you

1127
00:56:20,160 --> 00:56:23,680
Speaker 3: when you hold up their performances against common opponents, May

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00:56:23,760 --> 00:56:25,000
Speaker 3: was better. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Do you know who I think should quietly get more votes?

1130
00:56:28,960 --> 00:56:34,200
Speaker 4: Trevor Lawrence agreed just for another phenomenal year and has

1131
00:56:34,600 --> 00:56:38,000
Speaker 4: been really good and consistent for Jacksonville. Yeah, without Hunter

1132
00:56:38,400 --> 00:56:40,879
Speaker 4: and Brian Thomas Junior hasn't been fantastic for him.

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00:56:40,960 --> 00:56:45,520
Speaker 3: Right, That's the thing about their team, right, They draft

1134
00:56:45,640 --> 00:56:48,879
Speaker 3: Travis Hunter and the play that I remember from him

1135
00:56:48,880 --> 00:56:52,359
Speaker 3: most this year was the questionable best interference call against

1136
00:56:52,360 --> 00:56:55,080
Speaker 3: the Bengals. Sure he had no major impact on their season,

1137
00:56:55,080 --> 00:56:57,880
Speaker 3: which if you would have told me the Jacksonville Jaguars

1138
00:56:58,080 --> 00:57:01,200
Speaker 3: are going to win the division, Yea, there's no way

1139
00:57:01,239 --> 00:57:04,200
Speaker 3: it happens without Travis Hunter having some impact on one

1140
00:57:04,239 --> 00:57:04,799
Speaker 3: side of the ball.

1141
00:57:04,800 --> 00:57:07,319
Speaker 4: At least they went and got Jacobe Myers has been grateful. Yes,

1142
00:57:07,719 --> 00:57:10,440
Speaker 4: their mid season acquisitions and a really good defense.

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Speaker 3: All right, you're gonna hear Zach Taylor's press conference if

1144
00:57:13,480 --> 00:57:16,600
Speaker 3: he's on time when we come back on ESPN fifteen

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Speaker 3: thirty Cincinnati Sports.

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Speaker 2: This report is for the Cincinnati Bengals ESPN fifteen thirty.

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Speaker 3: Exactly four thirty. This is the SPN fifteen to thirty

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Speaker 3: b Tony and Mo Football Show from Twin Peaks in Florence.

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Speaker 3: We are here till six o'clock. We are now on

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Speaker 3: standby for Zach Taylor his season ending the press conference.

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Speaker 3: While we have a second while we wait for Zach,

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Speaker 3: shout out to Mike from Independence Man. We got T

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Speaker 3: shirts Tony and Mo football shirtastic shirt. We'll spend time

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Speaker 3: on that in a second. Right now, Zach Taylor meeting

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Speaker 3: with the local professional football media.

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Speaker 7: And he said that both of you are leaders that

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00:58:38,280 --> 00:58:40,680
Speaker 7: this team needs moving forward. What does it mean to

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00:58:40,720 --> 00:58:44,760
Speaker 7: you to have the owner come out and say such positive.

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Speaker 8: I'm appreciative of that, you know.

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Speaker 9: And again I think when you're you're aligned and you

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Speaker 9: get together like we get together and won the same page.

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Speaker 9: I don't need those things said about me, but but

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Speaker 9: it's certainly helpful as we move forward and provides clarity.

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Speaker 8: And so again, appreciative of that.

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Speaker 6: Did you need that?

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Speaker 3: No? I didn't.

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Speaker 8: I didn't need that. I felt I've had plenty of conversations, so.

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00:59:07,760 --> 00:59:11,720
Speaker 7: I didn't even why did you feel secure given how

1179
00:59:11,760 --> 00:59:12,479
Speaker 7: the season went?

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Speaker 9: I guess that more so I don't need to I

1181
00:59:15,160 --> 00:59:18,439
Speaker 9: didn't need a statement, but I'll just continue my job.

1182
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Speaker 8: But I do appreciate him doing that. But I just

1183
00:59:22,040 --> 00:59:23,920
Speaker 8: feel like we.

1184
00:59:23,880 --> 00:59:26,200
Speaker 9: Are on a path to really good things next year.

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Speaker 9: And I think everybody that exit this building today feels

1186
00:59:28,720 --> 00:59:32,000
Speaker 9: that players, coaches, everybody involved with this thing, and that

1187
00:59:32,200 --> 00:59:34,200
Speaker 9: this season was a disappointment. It didn't go the way

1188
00:59:34,240 --> 00:59:38,760
Speaker 9: we wanted. But I'm already re energized. You're working on

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Speaker 9: twenty twenty six and get back to work. Doesn't mean

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Speaker 9: I won't take a couple of days, but I just

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00:59:42,840 --> 00:59:45,360
Speaker 9: feel like the energy of this group and the talent

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Speaker 9: we have and the progress a lot of these guys made,

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Speaker 9: that we've got a chance to be back in the

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Speaker 9: conversation of where we belong these last couple of years

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Speaker 9: and have fallen short of that. And so I'm excited

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Speaker 9: and I feel the e sivente of all our players

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Speaker 9: and coaches to get back to all.

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Speaker 6: The meetings you've had in discussions with specifically, do you

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Speaker 6: think needs to happen to change to get to that?

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Speaker 9: I think we have to just continue to grow, you know,

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Speaker 9: I think this is bigular that if you look at

1202
01:00:11,000 --> 01:00:14,479
Speaker 9: just our season this year, the last thing I left

1203
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Speaker 9: with our team is just the turnover differential. Where we

1204
01:00:19,680 --> 01:00:21,800
Speaker 9: lost games. We weren't good enough on either side of

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Speaker 9: the ball, and that was taking the ball away from

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01:00:24,360 --> 01:00:26,920
Speaker 9: teams in the games we lost, that was scoring points

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Speaker 9: for the team on our offense. You know when we

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01:00:28,680 --> 01:00:30,480
Speaker 9: give up nine touchdowns on our offense this year. So

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Speaker 9: there's things as simple as that. If you look at

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Speaker 9: some of these one score games where we just we

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Speaker 9: didn't do enough just possessing the ball and taking the

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Speaker 9: ball away to win the game, and it was as

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Speaker 9: simple as that. That doesn't mean that fundamentally, that doesn't

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Speaker 9: mean that scheme will continue to evolve and our players

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Speaker 9: will continue to grow. But just something simple as the

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Speaker 9: turnovers is a big key on why we weren't a

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Speaker 9: successful as we shouldn't.

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Speaker 6: Do you think you had enough talent on the roster?

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Speaker 8: I do? How do you value evaluate yourself as a

1220
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Speaker 8: head coach at the end of every season.

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Speaker 4: How do you go back and look at whether you

1222
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Speaker 4: were successful in our Personally.

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Speaker 9: I do critical about myself on decisions I made and

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01:01:01,600 --> 01:01:05,000
Speaker 9: ways that can help other people. And very open to

1225
01:01:05,040 --> 01:01:07,200
Speaker 9: the feedback, you know, as we do the exit interviews

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01:01:07,200 --> 01:01:09,440
Speaker 9: with the players, so as a part of it is

1227
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Speaker 9: how can I help you be a better player, So always.

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Speaker 8: Open to that.

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Speaker 9: I really feel like I don't have an ego that way,

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01:01:18,760 --> 01:01:22,680
Speaker 9: I'm open to criticism. I give myself criticism part of

1231
01:01:22,760 --> 01:01:25,560
Speaker 9: myself for decisions you make in games, harder decisions you

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Speaker 9: made on personnel, decisions you made during the season, all

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Speaker 9: that kind of stuff, and and UH just want to

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Speaker 9: improve and be better and so just continue to work

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Speaker 9: on that.

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Speaker 3: What's the best thing that's.

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Speaker 8: A hard one? I'd have to kind of process.

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Speaker 9: You go through about forty something of them today, So

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Speaker 9: I don't have that answer quite ready for you. Your

1240
01:01:43,040 --> 01:01:46,240
Speaker 9: exit interview with Joe, what's that your exit interview that'll

1241
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Speaker 9: be later this week.

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Speaker 3: As you went through why this season went the way

1243
01:01:49,600 --> 01:01:52,440
Speaker 3: it did with their games, moments, trends that really stuck

1244
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Speaker 3: with you.

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Speaker 8: It's what game? What game you want to talk about?

1246
01:01:56,880 --> 01:01:59,280
Speaker 8: It was it was a different reason for every game,

1247
01:01:59,320 --> 01:02:03,120
Speaker 8: it felt like, and that is frustrating because we've got

1248
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Speaker 8: to be able to put our finger on that.

1249
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Speaker 9: And I just feel like we have the talent in

1250
01:02:08,120 --> 01:02:09,720
Speaker 9: this building that's going to continue to grow. I think

1251
01:02:09,760 --> 01:02:11,000
Speaker 9: if you look at our defense, you look at all

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01:02:11,000 --> 01:02:14,480
Speaker 9: those guys that played yesterday, and I've played these last

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Speaker 9: couple of weeks, let's punch of young talent, you know, first,

1254
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Speaker 9: second year or third year guys with a couple of

1255
01:02:19,240 --> 01:02:20,960
Speaker 9: better and fixed in there. But all those guys continue

1256
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Speaker 9: to grow and get better. And the confidence they're going

1257
01:02:23,080 --> 01:02:24,840
Speaker 9: to have going into the next season playing the scheme

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Speaker 9: for second year, being around these coaches for second year,

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Speaker 9: being around each other for a second year, I think

1260
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Speaker 9: the chemistry and outside of the ball was I mean,

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Speaker 9: they've got a lot of confidence right now coming out

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Speaker 9: of these last couple of games, and so I'm really

1263
01:02:35,480 --> 01:02:38,919
Speaker 9: excited about that. Offensively, you know, we've got everybody under

1264
01:02:38,920 --> 01:02:41,480
Speaker 9: contract for the most part. That is a big part

1265
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Speaker 9: of this thing, and so I just feel really strong

1266
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Speaker 9: that we'll have a good offseason and make a lot

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Speaker 9: of waves going into the next season.

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Speaker 6: Do you anticipate making any changes to the staff?

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Speaker 8: I do not.

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Speaker 3: Over the years, when we ask players about you today included,

1271
01:02:54,640 --> 01:02:56,000
Speaker 3: they'll say you're a player's coach.

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Speaker 9: Why is that your philosophy? Well, I think that I

1273
01:03:02,480 --> 01:03:06,240
Speaker 9: don't always know what that definition means. There's a part

1274
01:03:06,240 --> 01:03:09,320
Speaker 9: of this job where you've got to make decisions that

1275
01:03:09,360 --> 01:03:11,240
Speaker 9: are hard decisions that are not popular with everybody on

1276
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Speaker 9: a team. But at the same time, when guys have

1277
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Speaker 9: my respect in his decisions, where I don't feel like

1278
01:03:17,720 --> 01:03:19,800
Speaker 9: it's got to be my way of the highway, I

1279
01:03:19,840 --> 01:03:21,720
Speaker 9: want the input on those from those guys, And so

1280
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Speaker 9: I do like to open that up to players in

1281
01:03:26,440 --> 01:03:29,800
Speaker 9: ways that they can they can feel ownership of this thing,

1282
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Speaker 9: because I think that's the best way to get the

1283
01:03:31,440 --> 01:03:33,480
Speaker 9: most out of them. And they enjoy walking in the

1284
01:03:33,480 --> 01:03:35,320
Speaker 9: locker room every single day. They don't dread walking in

1285
01:03:35,360 --> 01:03:37,600
Speaker 9: this building when they feel like they've got ownership and

1286
01:03:37,640 --> 01:03:41,120
Speaker 9: what we're doing schematically, how they're going as a player,

1287
01:03:41,160 --> 01:03:42,640
Speaker 9: what we're doing from a schedule standpoint.

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Speaker 8: And that's not the Pece said I make.

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Speaker 9: I make a lot of those decisions myself, because you

1290
01:03:46,720 --> 01:03:48,880
Speaker 9: got to You got to make those decisions. But I

1291
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Speaker 9: got a lot of guys that I've been around for

1292
01:03:50,480 --> 01:03:52,720
Speaker 9: a long time as players that I value their opinion

1293
01:03:52,960 --> 01:03:55,200
Speaker 9: and I think they're going to help me make educated decisions,

1294
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Speaker 9: and so I think maybe that's where some of it

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Speaker 9: stems from. I like to think I'm very honest with

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Speaker 9: these guys, and there's hard conversations I've had with a

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Speaker 9: lot of these guys over the course of the season

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Speaker 9: that I think we both grew from. I think those

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Speaker 9: guys appreciate that there may be hard at the time

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Speaker 9: for both of us, but after the fact, we both

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Speaker 9: grow from it, our relationship becomes stronger.

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Speaker 8: And maybe that's where part of that simsum as well.

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Speaker 6: How much coach, do you think the out coming is

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Speaker 6: kind of a new scheme? I mean, how much of

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Speaker 6: that do you think that was a bigger impact to

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Speaker 6: mean your thought was.

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Speaker 8: Going to move.

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Speaker 6: The need to give them?

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Speaker 9: Yeah, No, I think I think we utilize a lot

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Speaker 9: of different people, and ouside of the ball can get

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Speaker 9: a coaching staff that came in and they worked really

1312
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Speaker 9: hard this offseason the summer to get together that really

1313
01:04:42,000 --> 01:04:44,800
Speaker 9: none of them have worked together before. So I was

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Speaker 9: really pleased with the growth of that side of the ball,

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Speaker 9: and I'm excited. I mean, it's I'm excited about the

1316
01:04:50,720 --> 01:04:53,720
Speaker 9: direction we're headed. And so I don't think anybody's pleased

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Speaker 9: with our record this year and how it all ended.

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Speaker 9: But that doesn't mean that there's not a lot of

1319
01:04:57,960 --> 01:04:59,919
Speaker 9: excitement from our coaching staff and our players going forward

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Speaker 9: to future.

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Speaker 6: How can you better take advantage of continuity? You have

1322
01:05:04,960 --> 01:05:08,200
Speaker 6: a rare continuity here and it hasn't paid off as

1323
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Speaker 6: much in recent years. How can we guys do a

1324
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Speaker 6: better job of taking advantage that.

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Speaker 9: I think this will be. You knows as much continuity

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Speaker 9: going in this offseason as we've had. I think there's

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Speaker 9: a role for all these guys that played for us

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Speaker 9: this year. And it doesn't mean we won't add in

1329
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Speaker 9: free agency in the draft to make ourselves better. But

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Speaker 9: I'm excited about a lot of these guys coming back

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Speaker 9: and and this being a bitter sweet feeling, this enter

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Speaker 9: not a bitter sweet better feeling as we ended the season,

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Speaker 9: And so I'm just I'm excited for the off season.

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Speaker 9: I'm excited to get these guys back in April already.

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Speaker 9: They're probably sick of me here right now, but I'm

1336
01:05:42,720 --> 01:05:44,440
Speaker 9: excited to get back to work with these guys.

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Speaker 6: I mean, how can you find better?

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Speaker 3: We lose we lose the feed? Do we we lose

1339
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Speaker 3: Zach Taylor? We lost the feed? Oh man? Wow? Anyway,

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01:05:59,200 --> 01:06:02,240
Speaker 3: you just heard seven minutes he's back let's let's finish

1341
01:06:02,280 --> 01:06:04,000
Speaker 3: off the press conference. Oct Taylor talking with it.

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Speaker 9: I'm excited about a lot of these guys coming back

1343
01:06:07,920 --> 01:06:11,720
Speaker 9: and and it's being a bittersweet feeling that center not

1344
01:06:11,800 --> 01:06:14,360
Speaker 9: a bitter sweet, bitter feeling as we ended the season.

1345
01:06:14,440 --> 01:06:17,600
Speaker 9: And so I'm just I'm excited for the offseason. I'm

1346
01:06:17,600 --> 01:06:19,200
Speaker 9: excited to get these guys back in April already. They

1347
01:06:19,280 --> 01:06:22,000
Speaker 9: they're probably sickon with me right now, but I'm excited

1348
01:06:22,000 --> 01:06:23,040
Speaker 9: to get back to work with these guys.

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Speaker 6: I mean, how can you find I'm.

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Speaker 9: Excited for the offseason. I'm excited to get these guys

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01:06:27,400 --> 01:06:29,040
Speaker 9: back in April already. They they're probably sick with me

1352
01:06:29,160 --> 01:06:29,440
Speaker 9: right now.

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Speaker 3: But where the press conference is over? Okay, great, there

1354
01:06:32,120 --> 01:06:34,000
Speaker 3: you go, there's Zach. They lost the feed.

1355
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Speaker 4: Feed the finale. We couldn't even get the feed.

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Speaker 3: The fitting end of the season, fitting into a frankly

1357
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Speaker 3: mostly miserable season. We lose the feed from the venue

1358
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Speaker 3: originally known as Paul Brown Stadium. So Zach Taylor doesn't

1359
01:06:46,720 --> 01:06:49,080
Speaker 3: for see any staff changes. No, no staff changes, but

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Speaker 3: he's really excited. Can't wait to get the guys back

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Speaker 3: in uh in April. The the exit meeting with Joe

1362
01:06:56,120 --> 01:06:58,960
Speaker 3: Burrow is gonna happen later this week. He's heard from

1363
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Speaker 3: a bunch of players. So there you go. Off to

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Speaker 3: the off season for Zach.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, defense showed some stuff over the last

1366
01:07:06,600 --> 01:07:09,880
Speaker 4: few few weeks. We're already laying the groundwork. You know,

1367
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Speaker 4: we are already laying the groundwork. Can you imagine year

1368
01:07:13,840 --> 01:07:17,200
Speaker 4: two in our golden system for Barrett Carter and Demitrius nine.

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Speaker 4: Can you imagine?

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Speaker 3: That was my biggest fear.

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Speaker 4: Can you imagine one more chance for Gino Stone, genostone,

1372
01:07:23,600 --> 01:07:27,720
Speaker 4: he had to go with from an Arrumo to al Golden.

1373
01:07:28,800 --> 01:07:30,959
Speaker 4: He was better down the stretch. He'll be much better

1374
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Speaker 4: in year two. We don't want to pull the plug

1375
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Speaker 4: on guys just yet.

1376
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Speaker 3: I am going to guess that Geno Stone is not here,

1377
01:07:38,320 --> 01:07:40,480
Speaker 3: But I am very fearful that we are going to

1378
01:07:40,560 --> 01:07:43,440
Speaker 3: spend the entire off season hearing about how hey, you

1379
01:07:43,520 --> 01:07:48,480
Speaker 3: know they invested draft picks and Demetrious Knight and Barrett Carter,

1380
01:07:49,240 --> 01:07:51,880
Speaker 3: and you know, with a normal off season for those

1381
01:07:51,920 --> 01:07:55,880
Speaker 3: players and first real off season as NFL players, you know,

1382
01:07:55,960 --> 01:07:58,400
Speaker 3: those guys are going to build upon the experience they

1383
01:07:58,440 --> 01:08:01,320
Speaker 3: accumulated and they're going to be so much better this year. Well,

1384
01:08:01,440 --> 01:08:02,560
Speaker 3: that is my biggest fear.

1385
01:08:02,680 --> 01:08:04,640
Speaker 4: Think about it, and Ken brought this up yesterday. You

1386
01:08:04,640 --> 01:08:07,560
Speaker 4: think about in baseball, up the middle is where you

1387
01:08:07,600 --> 01:08:11,120
Speaker 4: gotta be strong. Think about what they've used in the

1388
01:08:11,240 --> 01:08:16,639
Speaker 4: draft up the middle, Chris Jenkins, McKinley, Jackson, right, Demetrious Knight,

1389
01:08:17,000 --> 01:08:23,000
Speaker 4: Barrett Carter, Jordan Battle reinvested in genostone like the middle

1390
01:08:23,040 --> 01:08:26,160
Speaker 4: of your defense they've missed.

1391
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Speaker 3: Like you can even tell me that, like Demetrious Knight

1392
01:08:32,080 --> 01:08:35,679
Speaker 3: or Barrett Carter are gonna be better as second year players.

1393
01:08:35,720 --> 01:08:38,760
Speaker 4: Okay, you cannot tell me both will that's fine? Can

1394
01:08:38,800 --> 01:08:41,720
Speaker 4: they be second year players that are three and four

1395
01:08:41,720 --> 01:08:44,280
Speaker 4: on the depth chart, fine by me, because if they're

1396
01:08:44,280 --> 01:08:46,320
Speaker 4: one and two on the depth chart, you're not serious

1397
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Speaker 4: about winning a champion.

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Speaker 3: You're not and you're not changing correct because the way

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01:08:50,960 --> 01:08:52,920
Speaker 3: we expect the Bengals to do things is, Hey, we

1400
01:08:53,000 --> 01:08:56,360
Speaker 3: drafted those players continuity, more time in the system. We're

1401
01:08:56,360 --> 01:08:58,320
Speaker 3: gonna be good with those guys. That's what you expect.

1402
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Speaker 3: If things are different, they say, you know what, it

1403
01:09:01,439 --> 01:09:04,360
Speaker 3: didn't work as rookies, It may work down the road.

1404
01:09:04,720 --> 01:09:07,439
Speaker 3: There's roles for those players on the team, but they're

1405
01:09:07,479 --> 01:09:10,280
Speaker 3: not gonna be starters. We are gonna find better linebackers,

1406
01:09:10,320 --> 01:09:13,040
Speaker 3: whether it's in free agency or the draft, or a

1407
01:09:13,040 --> 01:09:15,439
Speaker 3: combo of the two. That to me is the litmus

1408
01:09:15,479 --> 01:09:18,439
Speaker 3: test again. Like I would imagine they're gonna go find

1409
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Speaker 3: a defensive tackle. I would imagine they're gonna address edge

1410
01:09:21,400 --> 01:09:25,240
Speaker 3: rusher in some way, shape or form. I'm gonna imagine

1411
01:09:24,960 --> 01:09:30,679
Speaker 3: they address safety. I would be unsurprised if they said,

1412
01:09:30,720 --> 01:09:32,760
Speaker 3: you know, we're gonna run it back with these two

1413
01:09:32,760 --> 01:09:36,840
Speaker 3: guys and let them, let them build upon the experience

1414
01:09:36,880 --> 01:09:38,679
Speaker 3: they built up in twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 4: You can't again. If if you take Mike Brown's letter

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01:09:43,760 --> 01:09:48,080
Speaker 4: from his desk today worth anything, it is that they

1417
01:09:48,080 --> 01:09:51,320
Speaker 4: are going to reassess and change how they operate going

1418
01:09:51,320 --> 01:09:53,920
Speaker 4: forward to get competitive teams back on the field. If

1419
01:09:53,920 --> 01:09:56,240
Speaker 4: you're going to do that, then you don't have time

1420
01:09:56,280 --> 01:09:59,240
Speaker 4: to wait anymore. No, you don't have time to take

1421
01:09:59,280 --> 01:10:01,320
Speaker 4: the guy in the dry that had three and a

1422
01:10:01,360 --> 01:10:04,160
Speaker 4: half sacks in college and say, well, he's gonna develop

1423
01:10:04,520 --> 01:10:06,080
Speaker 4: there's an upside. You got to take the guy that

1424
01:10:06,120 --> 01:10:09,599
Speaker 4: had eighteen sacks in college, that did it at every level,

1425
01:10:09,640 --> 01:10:11,720
Speaker 4: even if he's a half step slow. You got to

1426
01:10:11,760 --> 01:10:14,520
Speaker 4: take the guy that had the interception production, the linebacker

1427
01:10:14,560 --> 01:10:18,280
Speaker 4: that made tackles in open space, the guys that actually produced,

1428
01:10:18,360 --> 01:10:21,080
Speaker 4: not the guys that you're taking off sheer upside and athleticism.

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Speaker 3: And by the way, with Demetrius Knight, you know you

1430
01:10:24,240 --> 01:10:26,320
Speaker 3: talk about his age, he's twenty six years old. They

1431
01:10:26,400 --> 01:10:28,600
Speaker 3: drafted him because well, he's.

1432
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Speaker 4: Ready now pretty much a finished You said it yesterday too,

1433
01:10:31,479 --> 01:10:36,360
Speaker 4: It's at this point it's awesome that Miles Murphy has

1434
01:10:36,840 --> 01:10:39,200
Speaker 4: finished the year the way he has. You can no

1435
01:10:39,320 --> 01:10:43,880
Speaker 4: longer wait three years for a first round draft pick

1436
01:10:44,240 --> 01:10:47,600
Speaker 4: to show anything. And if you do, say goodbye to

1437
01:10:47,640 --> 01:10:50,120
Speaker 4: the Super Bowl window, because you're probably saying goodbye to

1438
01:10:50,200 --> 01:10:51,200
Speaker 4: Joe Burrow in a couple of years.

1439
01:10:51,200 --> 01:10:53,400
Speaker 3: It's not a development league this.

1440
01:10:53,520 --> 01:10:55,320
Speaker 4: Joe Burrow has time to wait for guys to develop.

1441
01:10:55,439 --> 01:10:59,800
Speaker 3: No, this is a league that's all about immediate dividends

1442
01:10:59,840 --> 01:11:03,200
Speaker 3: for your cheap talent from your cheap labor. I mean,

1443
01:11:04,880 --> 01:11:07,000
Speaker 3: we sometimes talk about the draft and look, there are

1444
01:11:07,080 --> 01:11:10,960
Speaker 3: late bloomers and Miles Murphy. I'm excited to see what

1445
01:11:11,000 --> 01:11:13,880
Speaker 3: he can do next season. Sure, but you're right, your

1446
01:11:13,920 --> 01:11:18,080
Speaker 3: first round pick. Your first three picks next year cannot

1447
01:11:18,080 --> 01:11:21,200
Speaker 3: take red shirt seasons. Your first three picks next year

1448
01:11:21,720 --> 01:11:25,320
Speaker 3: must contribute. They don't have to be stars, they don't

1449
01:11:25,320 --> 01:11:27,960
Speaker 3: have to be Rookie of the Year candidates. You have

1450
01:11:28,040 --> 01:11:31,719
Speaker 3: to get positive production regardless of what positions they play.

1451
01:11:32,360 --> 01:11:35,200
Speaker 3: And so the twenty twenty three draft class has rounded

1452
01:11:35,240 --> 01:11:39,799
Speaker 3: in the form nicely. It's taken three years. I can't

1453
01:11:39,840 --> 01:11:43,080
Speaker 3: have in twenty twenty eight. The twenty twenty six draft

1454
01:11:43,080 --> 01:11:46,439
Speaker 3: class round in the form. I need players who can

1455
01:11:46,520 --> 01:11:50,920
Speaker 3: play Game one, the first game of the season, play

1456
01:11:51,160 --> 01:11:52,160
Speaker 3: and help affect win.

1457
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Speaker 4: Have an impact, Yes, have an impact on the twenty

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01:11:55,080 --> 01:11:56,200
Speaker 4: twenty six football season.

1459
01:11:56,320 --> 01:12:01,320
Speaker 3: Yes, like you look around this league rookies making an impact.

1460
01:12:01,320 --> 01:12:03,560
Speaker 3: I'm telling Fairchild had a nice year. Give me a

1461
01:12:03,600 --> 01:12:05,120
Speaker 3: couple more guys at their positions.

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01:12:05,320 --> 01:12:08,559
Speaker 4: Tame they played yesterday. Yes, littered with rookies. Yes, across

1463
01:12:08,600 --> 01:12:12,320
Speaker 4: the field right, So it happens, And it doesn't just

1464
01:12:12,360 --> 01:12:14,800
Speaker 4: have to be the top five draft picks. There are

1465
01:12:15,560 --> 01:12:19,960
Speaker 4: late first rounders, second rounders, third rounders, fourth rounders that

1466
01:12:20,080 --> 01:12:24,720
Speaker 4: are starting and playing meaningful snaps for playoff teams right

1467
01:12:24,720 --> 01:12:26,480
Speaker 4: now that are trying to win a championship.

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Speaker 3: Sixteen away from five o'clock. It's the Tony and Mo

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Speaker 3: Football Show. I have another question for this offseason that

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Speaker 3: is more rhetorical than anything else. We'll get to that

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Speaker 3: coming up in the five o'clock hour. We'll look ahead

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Speaker 3: to a wild card weekend in the NFL playoffs. Spend

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Speaker 3: a few minutes on the Liberty Bowl talking about the Bearcats.

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Speaker 3: Football Show. The day after the Bengals season came to

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Speaker 3: an end, Cincinnati falling to the Cleveland Browns in the

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Speaker 3: irregular season finale. The season finale they'll wind up the

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Speaker 3: last game of the twenty twenty five season. Bengals finish

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Speaker 3: uh six and eleven after falling to the Browns twenty

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Speaker 3: to eighteen. Lots more on the Bengals coming up here

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Speaker 3: in just a bit. Spend a few minutes on the

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Speaker 4: of us doing this together to have a shirt.

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Speaker 3: You know what I liked about what he did here?

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Speaker 3: Uh he didn't use any trademarks, so we can't get

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Speaker 3: in trouble for wearing them.

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Speaker 3: Cartoon versions of ourselves.

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Speaker 4: I think my beard and mustache looks fantastic along with

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Speaker 4: my hair.

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01:14:31,439 --> 01:14:31,880
Speaker 3: It does.

1509
01:14:31,960 --> 01:14:34,679
Speaker 4: You've got an awesome what looks to be victory cigar.

1510
01:14:34,840 --> 01:14:37,880
Speaker 4: Uh huh kind of looks like a scarlet and gray

1511
01:14:37,920 --> 01:14:41,320
Speaker 4: hatcher wearing though, which is a little worrisome. Outside of that,

1512
01:14:41,400 --> 01:14:43,880
Speaker 4: it does look like a scarlet and gray It is spectacular.

1513
01:14:44,040 --> 01:14:45,680
Speaker 3: Thank you, Mike. Thanks thank you to Mike for the

1514
01:14:46,000 --> 01:14:48,720
Speaker 3: for the T shirts. We'll be stealing that logo here soon.

1515
01:14:48,760 --> 01:14:52,280
Speaker 3: Speaking of the scarlet and gray Ohio State pushed around

1516
01:14:52,280 --> 01:14:55,720
Speaker 3: by Miami on Bully Evening Bullied. What's interesting to me

1517
01:14:56,080 --> 01:14:59,519
Speaker 3: is Ryan Day, who I think is an easy guy

1518
01:14:59,560 --> 01:15:02,240
Speaker 3: to root for, but he goes out of his way

1519
01:15:03,000 --> 01:15:05,840
Speaker 3: to talk about how tough Ohio State is. Yeah, you

1520
01:15:05,880 --> 01:15:07,439
Speaker 3: get it all the time. Remember he got mad at

1521
01:15:07,479 --> 01:15:08,880
Speaker 3: Lou Holtz a couple of years ago when they beat

1522
01:15:08,920 --> 01:15:13,560
Speaker 3: Notre Dame and went off on him, questioning the Buckeyes toughness.

1523
01:15:14,240 --> 01:15:18,520
Speaker 3: He goes out of his way to tell you toughness, toughness, toughness.

1524
01:15:18,880 --> 01:15:22,000
Speaker 3: And yet on a handful of occasions in big games,

1525
01:15:22,040 --> 01:15:24,760
Speaker 3: I've watched them get pushed around, and they got pushed.

1526
01:15:24,520 --> 01:15:27,479
Speaker 4: Around Doctor Beck games against dominating the trenches Indiana in Miami.

1527
01:15:27,479 --> 01:15:29,760
Speaker 4: Here's what I don't understand, and I've not been able

1528
01:15:29,800 --> 01:15:34,160
Speaker 4: to find an answer, and I've asked for one multiple times.

1529
01:15:35,240 --> 01:15:39,720
Speaker 4: Heartline takes the USF job, I get it, but is

1530
01:15:39,760 --> 01:15:42,040
Speaker 4: allowed to still coach in the bowl game. Yeah, now,

1531
01:15:42,600 --> 01:15:45,280
Speaker 4: OLDE receivers. Old Miss has the same thing going on. Yeah,

1532
01:15:45,360 --> 01:15:46,960
Speaker 4: Old Miss has coaches that are gonna be leaving to

1533
01:15:46,960 --> 01:15:49,160
Speaker 4: go to LSU when their season eventually comes to an end.

1534
01:15:49,200 --> 01:15:51,200
Speaker 3: And they have coaches who will not coach them in

1535
01:15:51,240 --> 01:15:53,840
Speaker 3: the next game. Correct against Miami, who did coach them

1536
01:15:53,960 --> 01:15:54,639
Speaker 3: against Georgia.

1537
01:15:54,720 --> 01:15:58,479
Speaker 4: But Heartline takes the USF job and they say, Okay,

1538
01:15:58,520 --> 01:16:00,479
Speaker 4: we still want to have you coach in the ball game,

1539
01:16:01,040 --> 01:16:04,479
Speaker 4: but we don't want you to call plays anymore. Right, that,

1540
01:16:04,560 --> 01:16:07,320
Speaker 4: to me was a miss. You had the same voice

1541
01:16:07,320 --> 01:16:09,439
Speaker 4: calling plays all year, the same feel for the game.

1542
01:16:09,960 --> 01:16:11,599
Speaker 4: You let him coach in the game, but you took

1543
01:16:11,640 --> 01:16:13,640
Speaker 4: away that responsibility and you brought him down from the

1544
01:16:13,640 --> 01:16:14,519
Speaker 4: booth onto the field.

1545
01:16:14,720 --> 01:16:14,920
Speaker 3: Right.

1546
01:16:15,800 --> 01:16:19,120
Speaker 4: They looked lost on offense, it did. They looked disjointed

1547
01:16:19,160 --> 01:16:21,200
Speaker 4: on offense. And I'm not trying to put all the

1548
01:16:21,200 --> 01:16:23,439
Speaker 4: blame on Ryan Day, but if you're gonna allow him

1549
01:16:23,439 --> 01:16:26,240
Speaker 4: to stick around and coach the bowl games, let him

1550
01:16:26,240 --> 01:16:27,680
Speaker 4: call the plays like he has all year.

1551
01:16:27,920 --> 01:16:31,599
Speaker 3: I just don't understand why he couldn't. Like I get man,

1552
01:16:32,720 --> 01:16:36,160
Speaker 3: your your days are full, and your play is sleep.

1553
01:16:36,640 --> 01:16:39,080
Speaker 3: I like, I get it. Yeah, when you're trying to

1554
01:16:39,120 --> 01:16:42,080
Speaker 3: get the USF program and your regime off the ground

1555
01:16:42,840 --> 01:16:45,400
Speaker 3: and you're trying to work at Ohio State like that,

1556
01:16:45,479 --> 01:16:46,360
Speaker 3: there's a lot too there.

1557
01:16:47,280 --> 01:16:49,920
Speaker 4: I would understand now unless he came and said, I'll coach,

1558
01:16:49,920 --> 01:16:51,320
Speaker 4: but I don't want to call the plays.

1559
01:16:51,840 --> 01:16:53,519
Speaker 3: Yeah, but then it's like, dude, you have the play

1560
01:16:53,520 --> 01:16:54,960
Speaker 3: caller all side and what what are you doing here?

1561
01:16:55,000 --> 01:16:57,080
Speaker 3: Why can't you call the plays? Right? See?

1562
01:16:57,080 --> 01:16:58,360
Speaker 4: I think that was a huge mess.

1563
01:16:59,120 --> 01:17:02,160
Speaker 3: I wondered that watching the game, why can't it call players?

1564
01:17:02,240 --> 01:17:04,280
Speaker 4: They got bullied, and all year we heard about the

1565
01:17:04,320 --> 01:17:07,400
Speaker 4: defense and when the defense needed to get a stop

1566
01:17:07,640 --> 01:17:09,280
Speaker 4: and you knew what was coming, Miami.

1567
01:17:09,000 --> 01:17:09,880
Speaker 3: Still did what they wanted.

1568
01:17:10,000 --> 01:17:14,719
Speaker 4: Yeah, And I don't say that to discredit Miami because

1569
01:17:14,720 --> 01:17:16,880
Speaker 4: they were awesome and they've been on that. You want

1570
01:17:16,880 --> 01:17:18,840
Speaker 4: to talk about their path at Texas A and m

1571
01:17:18,840 --> 01:17:23,439
Speaker 4: taking on Ohio State, they've been extremely, extremely impressive. But

1572
01:17:23,760 --> 01:17:25,360
Speaker 4: all I heard all year was hands down, it's the

1573
01:17:25,360 --> 01:17:27,760
Speaker 4: best Ohio State team. It's the best defense they've had,

1574
01:17:28,520 --> 01:17:33,799
Speaker 4: and back to back games they got dominated in the trenches.

1575
01:17:35,760 --> 01:17:39,720
Speaker 3: I wasn't that surprised that Indiana beat Alabama with eaves.

1576
01:17:39,960 --> 01:17:41,639
Speaker 4: S was a little bit surprised.

1577
01:17:41,640 --> 01:17:42,800
Speaker 3: I'm not going to tell you that I thought they

1578
01:17:42,800 --> 01:17:45,960
Speaker 3: were gonna win by five touchdowns. Yeah, but I wasn't

1579
01:17:46,000 --> 01:17:49,800
Speaker 3: stunned that they won the game with the ease they won.

1580
01:17:49,960 --> 01:17:53,599
Speaker 4: The only thing I'm surprised at is how easy it was,

1581
01:17:53,640 --> 01:17:56,360
Speaker 4: Like I could see them winning. But outside of Indiana,

1582
01:17:56,920 --> 01:17:59,640
Speaker 4: you take two years of the twelve team playoff, the

1583
01:17:59,720 --> 01:18:01,920
Speaker 4: team with the first round bys or one and seven,

1584
01:18:02,840 --> 01:18:05,240
Speaker 4: like Indiana is the only team that has won. And

1585
01:18:05,280 --> 01:18:07,960
Speaker 4: I credit Signetti with more of that than anything else. Sure,

1586
01:18:08,040 --> 01:18:10,800
Speaker 4: and probably a little bit of Alabama if we're being honest.

1587
01:18:10,880 --> 01:18:13,800
Speaker 4: Alabama and Oklahoma were both not very good teams. But

1588
01:18:14,240 --> 01:18:16,479
Speaker 4: look what happened to Georgia, Look what happened to Ohio State,

1589
01:18:16,520 --> 01:18:19,280
Speaker 4: Look what happened to Texas Tech. Look what happened last

1590
01:18:19,320 --> 01:18:21,760
Speaker 4: year to the top seeds. I still think there's something

1591
01:18:21,800 --> 01:18:23,320
Speaker 4: to be said. I don't know what the answer is

1592
01:18:23,479 --> 01:18:24,800
Speaker 4: or if there is a fix. I don't know if

1593
01:18:24,840 --> 01:18:27,800
Speaker 4: you allow those those first four teams to pick if

1594
01:18:27,800 --> 01:18:29,840
Speaker 4: they want to play or not. I don't know if

1595
01:18:29,840 --> 01:18:31,519
Speaker 4: you move the second round let.

1596
01:18:31,520 --> 01:18:32,360
Speaker 3: Them play home games.

1597
01:18:32,400 --> 01:18:34,479
Speaker 4: That's what I think. I think the second round should

1598
01:18:34,479 --> 01:18:37,120
Speaker 4: be on site for those teams. I think that is

1599
01:18:37,160 --> 01:18:40,000
Speaker 4: a good enough reward for what they've been able to do.

1600
01:18:40,240 --> 01:18:42,920
Speaker 3: And I've seen people say, well, then you know what

1601
01:18:43,000 --> 01:18:45,439
Speaker 3: happens to all these heritage bowl games? Who cares?

1602
01:18:45,640 --> 01:18:46,479
Speaker 4: Name it the same thing?

1603
01:18:47,360 --> 01:18:51,040
Speaker 3: Who cares? Right? And I who cares? Those bowl games?

1604
01:18:51,080 --> 01:18:54,519
Speaker 3: Are these independent entities? Let them figure it out? Yep?

1605
01:18:55,080 --> 01:18:57,479
Speaker 3: Why do they have to be beholden to the Fiesta

1606
01:18:57,479 --> 01:18:58,599
Speaker 3: Bowl the Orange bit off?

1607
01:18:59,080 --> 01:19:01,040
Speaker 4: Are you going to see teams make different decisions at

1608
01:19:01,040 --> 01:19:02,920
Speaker 4: the end of the year? Maybe you know how much

1609
01:19:02,960 --> 01:19:04,120
Speaker 4: is the conference championship?

1610
01:19:04,120 --> 01:19:04,280
Speaker 3: Now?

1611
01:19:04,280 --> 01:19:04,600
Speaker 4: Help you?

1612
01:19:05,000 --> 01:19:08,200
Speaker 3: I think you have to move the schedule up and

1613
01:19:08,600 --> 01:19:11,080
Speaker 3: go ahead and play those first round games a week earlier,

1614
01:19:11,160 --> 01:19:15,080
Speaker 3: and have the quarterfinal games played before Christmas, and play

1615
01:19:15,080 --> 01:19:18,000
Speaker 3: those games at campus site. And you could still play

1616
01:19:18,120 --> 01:19:20,719
Speaker 3: the Rose Bowl in a semifinal or the Orange Bowl

1617
01:19:20,720 --> 01:19:24,800
Speaker 3: in a semifinal. I who cares? Right? I just I

1618
01:19:24,840 --> 01:19:27,720
Speaker 3: couldn't even tell you which of those quarterfinal games were

1619
01:19:27,720 --> 01:19:31,120
Speaker 3: at which bowls. I know Ole Miss played in the

1620
01:19:31,320 --> 01:19:34,400
Speaker 3: Sugar because they weren't too far from Lane Kiffin and

1621
01:19:34,439 --> 01:19:36,640
Speaker 3: Baton Rouge and I know I you played in the

1622
01:19:36,720 --> 01:19:39,680
Speaker 3: Rose Bowl because the Rose Bowl's cool. Beyond that, man

1623
01:19:39,880 --> 01:19:42,960
Speaker 3: like who cares? Yep play those games on campus sites.

1624
01:19:43,120 --> 01:19:45,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, that to me is the fix for it.

1625
01:19:47,680 --> 01:19:51,360
Speaker 3: The Bengals have a lot of money to spend. They

1626
01:19:51,360 --> 01:19:54,479
Speaker 3: don't have to spend it blindly. They don't have to

1627
01:19:54,520 --> 01:19:56,680
Speaker 3: spend it irresponsibly.

1628
01:19:56,000 --> 01:19:58,000
Speaker 4: Seventy seven point eight so far.

1629
01:19:58,360 --> 01:20:03,720
Speaker 3: But they need to find six guys. We'll get to

1630
01:20:03,720 --> 01:20:06,160
Speaker 3: that coming up at five oh five on ESPN fifteen thirty.

1631
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1642
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Speaker 3: One more hour the Power Hour of the Tony and

1643
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Speaker 3: Moo Football Show, Twin Peaks in Florence, the season finale.

1644
01:20:59,520 --> 01:21:02,200
Speaker 3: On the day the Bengals lose their season finale to

1645
01:21:02,280 --> 01:21:05,919
Speaker 3: the Cleveland Browns. On the day we find out that indeed,

1646
01:21:06,800 --> 01:21:09,600
Speaker 3: Zach Taylor and Duke Tobin will return for the twenty

1647
01:21:09,640 --> 01:21:12,920
Speaker 3: twenty six season. Duke is going to speak publicly. Maybe

1648
01:21:13,400 --> 01:21:15,920
Speaker 3: the feed won't cut out for that. Yeah, we'll see.

1649
01:21:16,000 --> 01:21:18,960
Speaker 3: Duke is going to talk on a time Friday. Just

1650
01:21:19,040 --> 01:21:21,800
Speaker 3: like the Bengals defense can finish games, Bengals can finish

1651
01:21:21,800 --> 01:21:24,479
Speaker 3: press conferences. That's how it works. We're here till six

1652
01:21:24,479 --> 01:21:27,920
Speaker 3: o'clock Twin Peaks in Florence. We love this place. The

1653
01:21:27,960 --> 01:21:30,640
Speaker 3: staff is awesome, the food is great. Beer selection is

1654
01:21:30,640 --> 01:21:33,800
Speaker 3: plentiful and very easy to get to. Right off I

1655
01:21:33,920 --> 01:21:36,200
Speaker 3: seventy five. We hope to be back in Twin Peaks

1656
01:21:36,200 --> 01:21:40,200
Speaker 3: next year. We will see those things are those are

1657
01:21:40,240 --> 01:21:40,720
Speaker 3: above us?

1658
01:21:40,840 --> 01:21:41,519
Speaker 4: Yes, we.

1659
01:21:43,360 --> 01:21:46,839
Speaker 3: Are here till six o'clock. Duke and Zach are back.

1660
01:21:47,600 --> 01:21:50,960
Speaker 3: This to me wasn't surprising. I do think it was

1661
01:21:51,640 --> 01:21:55,719
Speaker 3: notable that Mike Brown issued a statement about both which

1662
01:21:55,880 --> 01:21:59,920
Speaker 3: tells you that either they are aware of the conjecture

1663
01:22:00,080 --> 01:22:03,960
Speaker 3: around those two men, or that they at least gave

1664
01:22:04,120 --> 01:22:07,080
Speaker 3: some thought to replacing one or both. For what it's worth,

1665
01:22:07,320 --> 01:22:11,920
Speaker 3: Zach Taylor at the press conference that didn't finish made

1666
01:22:11,960 --> 01:22:14,280
Speaker 3: mention of the fact that he doesn't anticipate any coaching

1667
01:22:14,320 --> 01:22:17,320
Speaker 3: staff changes, So status quo for twenty twenty six.

1668
01:22:17,640 --> 01:22:20,719
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, as the season rolled on, it didn't

1669
01:22:20,720 --> 01:22:24,559
Speaker 4: feel like to me that this was more about Zach

1670
01:22:24,640 --> 01:22:28,679
Speaker 4: Taylor as it was about Duke Tobin agreed, because we've

1671
01:22:29,080 --> 01:22:31,439
Speaker 4: and I've I've openly talked about my thoughts of Zach

1672
01:22:31,479 --> 01:22:34,280
Speaker 4: as the play caller, which hasn't changed, right. I think

1673
01:22:34,800 --> 01:22:37,040
Speaker 4: if you look at how this team plays and the

1674
01:22:37,080 --> 01:22:41,080
Speaker 4: struggles they've had, burning timeouts, delay a games, decision making,

1675
01:22:41,640 --> 01:22:44,000
Speaker 4: just the overall clunkiness at times of getting to play

1676
01:22:44,000 --> 01:22:46,760
Speaker 4: in I think he's a little overwhelmed. Yes, I think

1677
01:22:46,800 --> 01:22:49,000
Speaker 4: it would bode better for everyone if someone else called

1678
01:22:49,000 --> 01:22:51,280
Speaker 4: the plays and Zach Taylor's a head coach. To me,

1679
01:22:51,439 --> 01:22:54,320
Speaker 4: this turned on its head more this year to Duke

1680
01:22:54,360 --> 01:22:58,080
Speaker 4: Tobin because the personnel is just not good enough. It

1681
01:22:58,160 --> 01:23:01,960
Speaker 4: wasn't good You used Lewenna, didn't work, tried al Golden,

1682
01:23:02,120 --> 01:23:04,760
Speaker 4: didn't work, doesn't matter who you parade in there, it's

1683
01:23:04,800 --> 01:23:07,400
Speaker 4: not going to work because the talent just isn't there.

1684
01:23:07,840 --> 01:23:10,240
Speaker 4: They've not done a good job in identifying the talent.

1685
01:23:10,880 --> 01:23:14,879
Speaker 4: And you are coming up on arguably the most pivotal

1686
01:23:14,920 --> 01:23:19,479
Speaker 4: off season of the Joe Burrow era in Cincinnati. If

1687
01:23:19,479 --> 01:23:21,360
Speaker 4: you follow along with how Joe Burrow acted and what

1688
01:23:21,400 --> 01:23:24,840
Speaker 4: he said this year and what you have now going

1689
01:23:24,880 --> 01:23:27,240
Speaker 4: into next year missing the playoffs three years in a row,

1690
01:23:27,920 --> 01:23:31,360
Speaker 4: this to me today was more about is there any

1691
01:23:31,479 --> 01:23:34,920
Speaker 4: chance Duke is not the guy? Those questions were answered

1692
01:23:35,040 --> 01:23:38,080
Speaker 4: very quickly, So now it becomes what in the world's

1693
01:23:38,120 --> 01:23:38,759
Speaker 4: going to be different?

1694
01:23:39,600 --> 01:23:42,600
Speaker 3: Right? And I think with Duke Tobin for me, like

1695
01:23:42,840 --> 01:23:46,360
Speaker 3: they've had bad teams, and they've had rosters that weren't great,

1696
01:23:46,400 --> 01:23:49,360
Speaker 3: and they've had draft picks that didn't work out. What

1697
01:23:49,479 --> 01:23:55,920
Speaker 3: it was for me are the continual failure of draft

1698
01:23:55,920 --> 01:23:58,439
Speaker 3: classes to make an immediate impact. At some point that

1699
01:23:58,479 --> 01:24:01,479
Speaker 3: becomes who you are as a personnel person. But also

1700
01:24:01,560 --> 01:24:05,400
Speaker 3: it's ignoring the obvious. We sat here Tony here a

1701
01:24:05,479 --> 01:24:08,400
Speaker 3: year ago. Bengals had just finished the season, won the

1702
01:24:08,479 --> 01:24:11,760
Speaker 3: last five games, but on the outside, looking into the playoffs,

1703
01:24:12,000 --> 01:24:15,360
Speaker 3: we sat in the room we're in right now, and

1704
01:24:15,400 --> 01:24:19,360
Speaker 3: we talked about overhauling the defense. We talked about all

1705
01:24:19,400 --> 01:24:22,599
Speaker 3: the different ways that they had to get better. In

1706
01:24:22,680 --> 01:24:26,160
Speaker 3: both free agency and the draft. They signed one free

1707
01:24:26,200 --> 01:24:29,880
Speaker 3: agent that started orin Burkes didn't. He joined the team

1708
01:24:29,920 --> 01:24:33,000
Speaker 3: as well. I recalled nothing that he did this season.

1709
01:24:33,160 --> 01:24:36,559
Speaker 3: But they signed TJ. Slayton and that was it in

1710
01:24:36,640 --> 01:24:40,040
Speaker 3: free agency. So you could say, hey, look, they're gonna

1711
01:24:40,040 --> 01:24:43,400
Speaker 3: fix it this offseason, are we sure? Because last year

1712
01:24:43,439 --> 01:24:45,639
Speaker 3: it couldn't have been more abundantly clear what they had

1713
01:24:45,680 --> 01:24:49,080
Speaker 3: to fix, and they didn't and they didn't even really try.

1714
01:24:48,800 --> 01:24:50,320
Speaker 4: They added TJ.

1715
01:24:50,400 --> 01:24:50,799
Speaker 3: Slayton.

1716
01:24:50,880 --> 01:24:53,200
Speaker 4: What else did they do the defensive line? They added

1717
01:24:53,280 --> 01:24:55,680
Speaker 4: Jamar Stewart, who didn't even remember meeting with the Bengals,

1718
01:24:56,040 --> 01:24:58,840
Speaker 4: went through the circus of training camp in the offseason,

1719
01:24:59,200 --> 01:25:01,519
Speaker 4: got on the field most of the year doing an injury.

1720
01:25:01,840 --> 01:25:05,400
Speaker 4: Jerry's still out. Trey Hendrickson was a distraction all offseason.

1721
01:25:05,400 --> 01:25:09,320
Speaker 4: They finally paid him, they franchised tagged him. Trey wasn't

1722
01:25:09,479 --> 01:25:11,720
Speaker 4: an impact player this year because he wasn't available for

1723
01:25:11,760 --> 01:25:15,160
Speaker 4: this team this year. Go to the next position. Oran

1724
01:25:15,200 --> 01:25:19,439
Speaker 4: Burks is coming, got Logan Wilson, Logan Wilson's gone. Oran

1725
01:25:19,479 --> 01:25:22,880
Speaker 4: Burks wasn't a factor. Two rookie linebackers didn't really factor

1726
01:25:22,920 --> 01:25:25,800
Speaker 4: in as well, McKinley Jackson and Chris Jenkins, two guys

1727
01:25:25,800 --> 01:25:27,840
Speaker 4: you thought would be future parts of that interior part

1728
01:25:27,840 --> 01:25:31,840
Speaker 4: of the defensive line nowhere to be found. At the

1729
01:25:31,840 --> 01:25:33,400
Speaker 4: start of the year, Cam Taylor Britt was going to

1730
01:25:33,439 --> 01:25:36,000
Speaker 4: be your number two. Saw how that worked. That was

1731
01:25:36,040 --> 01:25:39,799
Speaker 4: a failure. You asked your safety to take a pay cut.

1732
01:25:40,240 --> 01:25:44,160
Speaker 4: He stinks, So every single thing that they did was

1733
01:25:44,200 --> 01:25:46,320
Speaker 4: a failure. The only thing I didn't like from Mike

1734
01:25:46,360 --> 01:25:49,639
Speaker 4: Brown's letter today was how he started it. We came

1735
01:25:49,680 --> 01:25:52,840
Speaker 4: into the season with high expectations coming off four straight

1736
01:25:52,880 --> 01:25:56,480
Speaker 4: winning seasons. No, no, no, no, no no. The expectation

1737
01:25:56,640 --> 01:25:59,360
Speaker 4: is not a winning season, correct, So don't throw that enough.

1738
01:25:59,439 --> 01:26:01,920
Speaker 4: Our expect high because we had a winning season last year.

1739
01:26:02,000 --> 01:26:02,240
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1740
01:26:02,360 --> 01:26:05,479
Speaker 4: No, you won five games down the stretch, most meaningless

1741
01:26:05,479 --> 01:26:07,960
Speaker 4: against bad competition to get over five hundred. Yeah, and

1742
01:26:08,040 --> 01:26:09,320
Speaker 4: you missed the playoffs.

1743
01:26:08,920 --> 01:26:12,080
Speaker 3: And you wasted an MVP Calimber player.

1744
01:26:12,200 --> 01:26:14,599
Speaker 4: So right away to that, I'm like, ah, wait a second,

1745
01:26:14,600 --> 01:26:18,240
Speaker 4: because it kind of feels like we're we're acknowledging that

1746
01:26:18,280 --> 01:26:20,519
Speaker 4: we were accepting the winning season last year when that

1747
01:26:20,600 --> 01:26:23,040
Speaker 4: should have been the bar of that's not good enough.

1748
01:26:23,120 --> 01:26:26,679
Speaker 4: So high expectations because you came off four straight winning

1749
01:26:26,760 --> 01:26:29,040
Speaker 4: seasons and and you go back and you kind of

1750
01:26:29,040 --> 01:26:30,599
Speaker 4: rest on the Super Bowl in the back to back

1751
01:26:30,640 --> 01:26:34,479
Speaker 4: AFC title games. But now it's our focus, this is

1752
01:26:34,520 --> 01:26:36,680
Speaker 4: the quote. Our focus is on building a team that

1753
01:26:36,720 --> 01:26:39,639
Speaker 4: can consistently compete at the highest level with the goal

1754
01:26:39,640 --> 01:26:44,759
Speaker 4: of winning championships. That should be the goal every year. Yes,

1755
01:26:44,960 --> 01:26:48,040
Speaker 4: like that's the bare minimum of every off season, especially

1756
01:26:48,040 --> 01:26:50,600
Speaker 4: when Joe Burrows the guy of saying we're going to

1757
01:26:50,640 --> 01:26:53,680
Speaker 4: attack this offseason to put a team together that can

1758
01:26:53,720 --> 01:26:56,960
Speaker 4: win a championship. That's nothing new. That should be the

1759
01:26:57,000 --> 01:26:59,920
Speaker 4: case every off season. The question for me now become,

1760
01:27:00,560 --> 01:27:04,240
Speaker 4: how if we just heard from Zach, don't expect any

1761
01:27:05,479 --> 01:27:08,639
Speaker 4: changes to the staff, don't expect any changes with Zach

1762
01:27:08,680 --> 01:27:11,920
Speaker 4: Taylor and Duke Tobin. So tell me how it's going

1763
01:27:11,960 --> 01:27:15,160
Speaker 4: to be different. Tell me why, because that's why you

1764
01:27:15,200 --> 01:27:18,320
Speaker 4: get the reaction so many have had today. H everyone's

1765
01:27:18,360 --> 01:27:19,439
Speaker 4: seen this, they've heard this.

1766
01:27:19,520 --> 01:27:22,599
Speaker 3: Well. The thing is like they reference the four winning

1767
01:27:22,640 --> 01:27:25,200
Speaker 3: seasons in a row and the way we talk about

1768
01:27:25,200 --> 01:27:28,120
Speaker 3: the two appearances in the AFC Championship Game in the

1769
01:27:28,120 --> 01:27:30,880
Speaker 3: Super Bowl, it makes it sound like those are the

1770
01:27:30,920 --> 01:27:34,200
Speaker 3: norm they need to be. This team has missed the

1771
01:27:34,240 --> 01:27:36,599
Speaker 3: playoffs in eight out of the last ten years.

1772
01:27:36,600 --> 01:27:38,880
Speaker 4: Correct, that's the story, right, Duke Tobin.

1773
01:27:38,640 --> 01:27:41,400
Speaker 3: Has been here for a very long time now. Joe

1774
01:27:41,400 --> 01:27:45,000
Speaker 3: Burrow wasn't here prior to twenty twenty, Zach Taylor wasn't

1775
01:27:45,040 --> 01:27:48,680
Speaker 3: here prior to twenty nineteen. But the Cincinnati Bengals for

1776
01:27:48,720 --> 01:27:53,360
Speaker 3: a decade have failed to make the postseason in eight

1777
01:27:53,439 --> 01:27:56,679
Speaker 3: of those ten years, and in many years like this year,

1778
01:27:57,120 --> 01:28:01,240
Speaker 3: they haven't come close. So what's the outline? The outlier

1779
01:28:01,439 --> 01:28:04,360
Speaker 3: are the two seasons. Now, Duke Tobin gets and deserves

1780
01:28:04,400 --> 01:28:06,479
Speaker 3: a lot of credit for what he did to build

1781
01:28:06,520 --> 01:28:10,800
Speaker 3: those teams, and Zach Taylor gets and deserves, maybe deserves

1782
01:28:11,120 --> 01:28:14,360
Speaker 3: more than he gets, I think, credit for his fingerprints

1783
01:28:14,400 --> 01:28:16,640
Speaker 3: being all over those two teams and the way he

1784
01:28:16,760 --> 01:28:19,599
Speaker 3: coached them. But like you kind of miss me with

1785
01:28:19,680 --> 01:28:21,960
Speaker 3: the you know what, this is just a speed bump,

1786
01:28:22,360 --> 01:28:24,120
Speaker 3: and it's a little bit bigger of a speed bump

1787
01:28:24,160 --> 01:28:26,679
Speaker 3: than we would like. It's been three years, but you know, hey,

1788
01:28:26,720 --> 01:28:28,960
Speaker 3: we were in the super Bowl. That's cool. The super

1789
01:28:28,960 --> 01:28:31,320
Speaker 3: Bowl season and the year after it when they went

1790
01:28:31,360 --> 01:28:35,000
Speaker 3: twelve and four, those are outliers. In Duke Tobin's last

1791
01:28:35,000 --> 01:28:39,240
Speaker 3: ten attempts to build a playoff team, he's failed eight times. Yeah,

1792
01:28:39,280 --> 01:28:40,960
Speaker 3: that is a miserable hit rate.

1793
01:28:41,120 --> 01:28:44,400
Speaker 4: And I think it's fair to acknowledge that over the

1794
01:28:44,439 --> 01:28:47,440
Speaker 4: course of the ten years, from the top of the organization,

1795
01:28:47,520 --> 01:28:51,120
Speaker 4: things have changed. They've changed how they've decided to spend money.

1796
01:28:51,600 --> 01:28:53,680
Speaker 4: They've spent more on free agents. They've opened up the

1797
01:28:53,760 --> 01:28:56,080
Speaker 4: check book and said, Okay, we'll look at how we

1798
01:28:56,120 --> 01:28:58,599
Speaker 4: structure contracts. We'll look at how we do the draft.

1799
01:28:58,720 --> 01:29:00,960
Speaker 4: We'll talk about upgrading the state, we'll add the Ring

1800
01:29:01,000 --> 01:29:03,439
Speaker 4: of Honor, We'll do all these things that we as

1801
01:29:03,479 --> 01:29:05,559
Speaker 4: an organization need to do. And oh, by the way, Duke,

1802
01:29:05,800 --> 01:29:08,240
Speaker 4: if it is Duke, you have more money to spend.

1803
01:29:08,760 --> 01:29:12,320
Speaker 4: These are decisions you have to make. Like it gets

1804
01:29:12,320 --> 01:29:14,320
Speaker 4: caught up sometimes with just the same old, same old.

1805
01:29:14,640 --> 01:29:16,840
Speaker 4: I feel like at the top of the organization they

1806
01:29:16,880 --> 01:29:19,599
Speaker 4: have tried to change things up. They have spent more money,

1807
01:29:20,000 --> 01:29:23,160
Speaker 4: they have guaranteed deeper into contracts than what they've wanted

1808
01:29:23,200 --> 01:29:25,400
Speaker 4: to do in years past. All of that being said,

1809
01:29:25,720 --> 01:29:27,920
Speaker 4: that's to me, while I resort back to Duke Tobyn,

1810
01:29:28,400 --> 01:29:31,120
Speaker 4: it's your job if you're given to the same way

1811
01:29:31,160 --> 01:29:34,840
Speaker 4: we talk about Nick Kral, what you're given, what you

1812
01:29:34,920 --> 01:29:36,599
Speaker 4: have to spend, and what you have to work with.

1813
01:29:36,720 --> 01:29:40,080
Speaker 4: How can you make that work. They've given guys money,

1814
01:29:40,360 --> 01:29:42,880
Speaker 4: they've made decisions on draft picks that haven't worked out.

1815
01:29:43,360 --> 01:29:44,800
Speaker 4: Someone has to be accountable for that.

1816
01:29:44,960 --> 01:29:49,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, I go back to the twenty twenty

1817
01:29:49,560 --> 01:29:54,960
Speaker 3: off season. They signed DJ Reader, they acquired Trey Hendrickson.

1818
01:29:55,600 --> 01:29:58,800
Speaker 3: Prior to the twenty twenty one season, they went and

1819
01:29:58,800 --> 01:30:01,360
Speaker 3: got should Obe Woozie, And I'm kind of talking about

1820
01:30:01,479 --> 01:30:04,040
Speaker 3: a two year stretch twenty and twenty one where they

1821
01:30:04,040 --> 01:30:07,519
Speaker 3: were really active in free agency in some cases overpaid, right,

1822
01:30:07,600 --> 01:30:11,800
Speaker 3: Like they overpaid people, said DJ Reader. And they got

1823
01:30:11,880 --> 01:30:16,680
Speaker 3: Mike Hilton, they got Larry Ogunjobi. Basically this offseason, Ken

1824
01:30:16,720 --> 01:30:18,439
Speaker 3: Bruce said it to us, Yes, daid, well, they're not

1825
01:30:18,479 --> 01:30:21,360
Speaker 3: gonna spend wildly. They don't need to. They need to

1826
01:30:21,400 --> 01:30:25,400
Speaker 3: spend smartly. So spending wildly means, you know, you pay

1827
01:30:25,479 --> 01:30:29,280
Speaker 3: top dollar for the best guys. I'm not opposed to superstars,

1828
01:30:29,880 --> 01:30:33,280
Speaker 3: but was Trey hendricks In. A household name when the

1829
01:30:33,280 --> 01:30:37,080
Speaker 3: Bengal signed him was Chadobia Woozie. A household name when

1830
01:30:37,080 --> 01:30:39,799
Speaker 3: the Bengals signed him was Larry Ogan Jobe. A household

1831
01:30:39,920 --> 01:30:43,160
Speaker 3: name when the Bengals acquired him was Mike Hilton. A

1832
01:30:43,240 --> 01:30:46,280
Speaker 3: household name when the Bengals acquired him was von Bell.

1833
01:30:46,760 --> 01:30:50,400
Speaker 3: A household name when the Bengals acquired him was DJ Reader.

1834
01:30:50,800 --> 01:30:54,479
Speaker 3: A superstar, a star, a Pro Bowl player. When the

1835
01:30:54,479 --> 01:30:57,759
Speaker 3: Bengals acquired him. They didn't get him via free agency.

1836
01:30:57,800 --> 01:30:59,640
Speaker 3: They got him in a trade, but bj Hill was

1837
01:30:59,680 --> 01:31:02,800
Speaker 3: Beach a Hill of Star, the household name. So like,

1838
01:31:03,640 --> 01:31:07,240
Speaker 3: it's not about spending wildly. You may have to overpay

1839
01:31:07,320 --> 01:31:09,320
Speaker 3: here or there to get a guy that you really want.

1840
01:31:10,040 --> 01:31:14,360
Speaker 3: It's about efficiently and it's about identifying the right players

1841
01:31:14,360 --> 01:31:17,880
Speaker 3: in free agency who maybe aren't stars, but are worth

1842
01:31:17,880 --> 01:31:19,080
Speaker 3: signing here for multiple years.

1843
01:31:19,160 --> 01:31:22,880
Speaker 4: It is It is the decisions and the ramifications with

1844
01:31:22,920 --> 01:31:25,439
Speaker 4: those decisions that you have to live with. You could

1845
01:31:25,479 --> 01:31:27,240
Speaker 4: it's easy to do it now. They should have paid

1846
01:31:27,320 --> 01:31:30,599
Speaker 4: Jesse Bates. They spent more money trying to replace Jesse

1847
01:31:30,680 --> 01:31:32,240
Speaker 4: Bates than the would have paid him in a contract.

1848
01:31:32,240 --> 01:31:33,879
Speaker 3: They're still trying to replace them.

1849
01:31:33,680 --> 01:31:36,360
Speaker 4: Still trying to replace Jesse Bates. That was a miss. Like,

1850
01:31:36,760 --> 01:31:38,880
Speaker 4: you have guys in house, you got to hit on it.

1851
01:31:39,240 --> 01:31:41,439
Speaker 4: You got to know when to re up. You gotta

1852
01:31:41,479 --> 01:31:44,679
Speaker 4: know when to spend that money. They've missed more times

1853
01:31:44,720 --> 01:31:47,600
Speaker 4: than not on the guys that they had in the

1854
01:31:47,600 --> 01:31:51,559
Speaker 4: building from draft outside of Burrow and Chase right, no

1855
01:31:51,600 --> 01:31:53,760
Speaker 4: one's gonna let him walk. But the guys that they

1856
01:31:53,760 --> 01:31:56,479
Speaker 4: should have held onto, that they drafted, that were in

1857
01:31:56,560 --> 01:31:58,840
Speaker 4: house probably moved on from too quick or didn't want

1858
01:31:58,840 --> 01:32:01,800
Speaker 4: to re up into another deal. Now they're paying for

1859
01:32:01,840 --> 01:32:05,600
Speaker 4: the ramifications of that. But I equate it again, and

1860
01:32:05,640 --> 01:32:08,720
Speaker 4: I know Mike McDonald is a whole different animal. How

1861
01:32:08,720 --> 01:32:13,320
Speaker 4: many superstars are on Seattle's defense, not a ton. They

1862
01:32:13,360 --> 01:32:15,799
Speaker 4: all know what they're doing, they all know the scheme,

1863
01:32:16,200 --> 01:32:18,479
Speaker 4: they all know how they fit into that piece of

1864
01:32:18,520 --> 01:32:23,000
Speaker 4: the puzzle, and they play well together. You don't need

1865
01:32:23,040 --> 01:32:26,360
Speaker 4: the superstar Like, yes, is it a luxury to have Hendrickson?

1866
01:32:26,479 --> 01:32:28,400
Speaker 4: Is it a luxury to have Miles Garrett and TJ.

1867
01:32:28,479 --> 01:32:28,839
Speaker 3: Watt?

1868
01:32:29,080 --> 01:32:31,360
Speaker 4: What if the Browns also done, They're gonna have the

1869
01:32:31,400 --> 01:32:34,000
Speaker 4: rookie of the year at linebacker, Mason Graham's a good

1870
01:32:34,080 --> 01:32:38,799
Speaker 4: up and coming player. Denzel Ward. Like, they have talent everywhere,

1871
01:32:38,800 --> 01:32:42,040
Speaker 4: but they've also done well to build around their superstar,

1872
01:32:42,120 --> 01:32:44,720
Speaker 4: Miles Garrett. You can't just land a superstar on a

1873
01:32:44,760 --> 01:32:46,120
Speaker 4: defense and say all right, that side of the ball

1874
01:32:46,200 --> 01:32:48,639
Speaker 4: is done. You gotta keep building around it. And that's

1875
01:32:48,640 --> 01:32:52,160
Speaker 4: why I think the approach you're talking about is more

1876
01:32:52,880 --> 01:32:55,000
Speaker 4: conducive to what the Bengals need to do of I

1877
01:32:55,000 --> 01:32:57,360
Speaker 4: don't need the top dollar guy, but can I get

1878
01:32:57,400 --> 01:32:59,960
Speaker 4: six or seven guys that are gonna have an immediate

1879
01:33:00,040 --> 01:33:03,280
Speaker 4: an impact. Yeah, and they're gonna they're gonna mesh well together.

1880
01:33:03,479 --> 01:33:05,759
Speaker 3: And if you believe in Al Golden, then there's lots

1881
01:33:05,760 --> 01:33:08,000
Speaker 3: of reasons for us to not believe in Al Golden.

1882
01:33:08,040 --> 01:33:09,760
Speaker 3: But if you believe in Al Golden, you think he

1883
01:33:09,800 --> 01:33:11,519
Speaker 3: can do what Luenarumo did well.

1884
01:33:11,520 --> 01:33:12,960
Speaker 4: I want to know if Al Golden has the ability

1885
01:33:13,000 --> 01:33:15,080
Speaker 4: to do that, right, Like, to be quite honest, right,

1886
01:33:15,160 --> 01:33:16,600
Speaker 4: I want to know if Al Golden can go in

1887
01:33:16,640 --> 01:33:18,960
Speaker 4: there and say hey, I need this, this, this and this,

1888
01:33:19,280 --> 01:33:22,559
Speaker 4: and if they say, okay, let's talk about prospects or

1889
01:33:22,920 --> 01:33:25,840
Speaker 4: let's talk about free agents, or is it these are

1890
01:33:25,840 --> 01:33:28,240
Speaker 4: the guys we're gonna get Genuinely, I want to know

1891
01:33:28,320 --> 01:33:32,599
Speaker 4: that the relationship between Al and Zach and Duke. I

1892
01:33:32,640 --> 01:33:35,360
Speaker 4: want to know when you hired when you hired Al Golden,

1893
01:33:35,479 --> 01:33:38,040
Speaker 4: was it you gotta make it work with what we

1894
01:33:38,160 --> 01:33:41,360
Speaker 4: have or you're gonna take it. Because I can't fathom

1895
01:33:41,360 --> 01:33:44,400
Speaker 4: a world where Al Golden would have wanted Xavier Watts.

1896
01:33:44,920 --> 01:33:45,599
Speaker 4: I'll just call it.

1897
01:33:45,520 --> 01:33:45,920
Speaker 3: What it is.

1898
01:33:46,000 --> 01:33:49,000
Speaker 4: Right, He's a he's a he's a great safety. He's

1899
01:33:49,040 --> 01:33:50,400
Speaker 4: third or fourth and rookie of the year on the

1900
01:33:50,400 --> 01:33:51,960
Speaker 4: defensive side of the ball, and he played at Notre

1901
01:33:52,040 --> 01:33:54,960
Speaker 4: Dame Withol Golden. Right if Al Golden on draft day

1902
01:33:55,040 --> 01:33:57,280
Speaker 4: was like, I need I want, I want Xavier Wats.

1903
01:33:57,360 --> 01:33:58,120
Speaker 3: We need a safety.

1904
01:33:58,360 --> 01:34:00,479
Speaker 4: Let's go get the guy that knows my sin better

1905
01:34:00,520 --> 01:34:03,800
Speaker 4: than anything else and they said, now we're good. Or

1906
01:34:03,800 --> 01:34:05,640
Speaker 4: does he even have the ability to have that conversation.

1907
01:34:05,920 --> 01:34:09,000
Speaker 3: What they have to get good at long term not

1908
01:34:09,080 --> 01:34:10,960
Speaker 3: so much this year, but what they have to get

1909
01:34:11,000 --> 01:34:15,080
Speaker 3: good at long term is replacing the players who do leave.

1910
01:34:15,280 --> 01:34:17,800
Speaker 3: Because if if you have a lot of good players,

1911
01:34:17,840 --> 01:34:20,400
Speaker 3: are going to lose some. You know, the Jesse Bates thing.

1912
01:34:20,400 --> 01:34:23,120
Speaker 3: We're not talking about it. If the plan to replace

1913
01:34:23,200 --> 01:34:26,439
Speaker 3: him worked. It hasn't that Dax Hill may stick as

1914
01:34:26,479 --> 01:34:30,000
Speaker 3: an outside corner. That's taken forever. But the idea they

1915
01:34:30,080 --> 01:34:33,519
Speaker 3: drafted him was he's gonna play safety when Jesse Bates

1916
01:34:33,600 --> 01:34:36,599
Speaker 3: leave and he gets a red shirt year. It took

1917
01:34:36,640 --> 01:34:39,920
Speaker 3: him forever to replace Andrew Whitworth. The plan to replace

1918
01:34:39,960 --> 01:34:42,960
Speaker 3: Trey Hendrickson didn't work out so much, so they brought

1919
01:34:42,960 --> 01:34:46,080
Speaker 3: Trey Hendrickson back this past season instead of trading him.

1920
01:34:46,400 --> 01:34:49,439
Speaker 3: The plan to replace t Higgins didn't work out. Tremaine

1921
01:34:49,520 --> 01:34:52,880
Speaker 3: Burton was a failed pick, and so they had to

1922
01:34:52,880 --> 01:34:55,160
Speaker 3: sign t Higgins. Now, I think we're all cool with that,

1923
01:34:55,240 --> 01:35:00,200
Speaker 3: but still their plans to replace players don't work. We're

1924
01:35:00,200 --> 01:35:04,240
Speaker 3: gonna enjoy sustained success, real sustained success where they're in

1925
01:35:04,280 --> 01:35:06,960
Speaker 3: the playoffs pretty much every single year. That's got to change.

1926
01:35:07,040 --> 01:35:09,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, it can't just be well, they hit on a

1927
01:35:09,240 --> 01:35:12,600
Speaker 4: draft for a year. You gotta stack them together. You

1928
01:35:12,680 --> 01:35:15,000
Speaker 4: got to build draft after a draft after draft if

1929
01:35:15,080 --> 01:35:18,200
Speaker 4: you want to be viewed as a successful team. It's

1930
01:35:18,200 --> 01:35:21,000
Speaker 4: why the Rams are in the position they're in and

1931
01:35:21,040 --> 01:35:24,880
Speaker 4: they've had limited draft picks. Man, they've hit on them.

1932
01:35:24,920 --> 01:35:28,320
Speaker 4: They've found ways to connect on them, and they've built

1933
01:35:28,320 --> 01:35:30,439
Speaker 4: around and they've had them. They've made tough decisions too.

1934
01:35:30,960 --> 01:35:33,720
Speaker 4: They've moved on from Cooper Cup, they've moved on from

1935
01:35:33,800 --> 01:35:37,000
Speaker 4: main players on that roster, and in that organization, they

1936
01:35:37,000 --> 01:35:41,120
Speaker 4: had to replace Aaron Donald. Now you're not gonna replace

1937
01:35:41,160 --> 01:35:43,240
Speaker 4: Aaron Donald. But they've done a good job of revamping

1938
01:35:43,280 --> 01:35:46,320
Speaker 4: that defensive line. Yes, without Aaron Donald in the middle

1939
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Speaker 4: of it.

1940
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Speaker 3: They're not still talking about not having Aaron. Donnal said

1941
01:35:49,680 --> 01:35:52,040
Speaker 3: this for you. You're still talking about not having Jesse

1942
01:35:52,080 --> 01:35:52,639
Speaker 3: b We've.

1943
01:35:52,520 --> 01:35:56,200
Speaker 4: Said this five times this year. You go back to

1944
01:35:56,240 --> 01:35:58,439
Speaker 4: that Super Bowl and if I would tell you that

1945
01:35:58,520 --> 01:36:01,200
Speaker 4: the Rams would be closer in three or four years

1946
01:36:01,240 --> 01:36:02,799
Speaker 4: to getting back to a Super Bowl and the Bengals,

1947
01:36:02,840 --> 01:36:05,879
Speaker 4: you'd have called me crazy because they had mortgaged everything

1948
01:36:05,920 --> 01:36:07,000
Speaker 4: it seemed like to go there.

1949
01:36:07,040 --> 01:36:09,320
Speaker 3: They had won five and twelve season. Yeah, and I

1950
01:36:09,320 --> 01:36:10,639
Speaker 3: think they've been back to the post.

1951
01:36:10,479 --> 01:36:14,720
Speaker 4: And right back on top. Like whatever draft picks, how

1952
01:36:14,840 --> 01:36:17,439
Speaker 4: it doesn't matter. We're gonna build how we need to build.

1953
01:36:17,640 --> 01:36:19,720
Speaker 4: And you want to talk about teams that have openings,

1954
01:36:20,120 --> 01:36:22,040
Speaker 4: they're one of the six teams ahead of the Bengals

1955
01:36:22,080 --> 01:36:24,720
Speaker 4: in money to spend so they've done it the right

1956
01:36:24,760 --> 01:36:28,879
Speaker 4: way since the Super Bowl, and I guess you mentioned.

1957
01:36:29,040 --> 01:36:33,280
Speaker 4: We're still here today, twenty twenty six talking about not

1958
01:36:33,720 --> 01:36:39,080
Speaker 4: re signing Jesse Bates. That's insane, the money they've spent

1959
01:36:40,320 --> 01:36:43,639
Speaker 4: and the dedication they've put to that position to still

1960
01:36:43,640 --> 01:36:44,320
Speaker 4: come up empty.

1961
01:36:44,800 --> 01:36:47,080
Speaker 3: It is twenty minutes after five o'clock. We're in Twin

1962
01:36:47,120 --> 01:36:50,760
Speaker 3: Peaks in Florence. We have a lot of ground to cover.

1963
01:36:51,320 --> 01:36:55,920
Speaker 3: The Liberty Bowl. You see post sowresby, the NFL playoffs

1964
01:36:56,400 --> 01:36:59,479
Speaker 3: and if we have time college basketball tour.

1965
01:37:00,439 --> 01:37:01,519
Speaker 4: We never know the closs are going.

1966
01:37:01,680 --> 01:37:02,200
Speaker 3: You never know.

1967
01:37:02,640 --> 01:37:03,800
Speaker 4: This breaks are a little bit longer.

1968
01:37:03,840 --> 01:37:04,960
Speaker 3: It is a football show.

1969
01:37:05,080 --> 01:37:06,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, we always stick to that.

1970
01:37:07,160 --> 01:37:09,160
Speaker 3: These t shirts don't say Tony and mal basket.

1971
01:37:09,240 --> 01:37:11,920
Speaker 4: We usually stick to football on this show.

1972
01:37:12,200 --> 01:37:15,880
Speaker 3: It is a twenty minutes the basketball show after five o'clock.

1973
01:37:15,920 --> 01:37:17,720
Speaker 3: I would love to do the Tonium. I would too.

1974
01:37:18,479 --> 01:37:20,880
Speaker 3: This is ESPN fifteen thirty, Cincinnati Sports Station.

1975
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Speaker 1: Cincinnati's ESPN fifteen thirty Traffic from.

1976
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1977
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1978
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Speaker 5: five one three nine, three nine two two sixty three.

1979
01:37:37,160 --> 01:37:40,799
Speaker 5: That's nine three nine two two sixty three southbound seventy

1980
01:37:40,840 --> 01:37:44,519
Speaker 5: five after Paddock Road, there's an accident. Another accident on

1981
01:37:44,640 --> 01:37:48,519
Speaker 5: Winton Road between Dutch Colony Drive and Oakfield Avenue. Minor

1982
01:37:48,600 --> 01:37:52,720
Speaker 5: injuries reported there and eastbound two seventy five. Traffic is

1983
01:37:52,760 --> 01:37:56,840
Speaker 5: slow between Lovinon and Loveland Madeira Road. I'm at ezelic

1984
01:37:56,880 --> 01:37:57,599
Speaker 5: with traffic.

1985
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1986
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Speaker 3: TONI all showed the bud Light five o'clock Happy Hour

1987
01:38:02,320 --> 01:38:06,720
Speaker 3: ESPN fifteen thirty dr here till six o'clock when the

1988
01:38:06,880 --> 01:38:10,640
Speaker 3: Mark Pope Radio show tapes over Toentucky basketball losing to

1989
01:38:11,040 --> 01:38:15,000
Speaker 3: Alabamah on Saturday. Uh, you want to spend a few

1990
01:38:15,000 --> 01:38:17,920
Speaker 3: minutes on the NFL playoffs? Sure of these six wildcard

1991
01:38:18,000 --> 01:38:21,519
Speaker 3: round games, which one is the best or the one

1992
01:38:21,560 --> 01:38:22,800
Speaker 3: you're most looking forward to?

1993
01:38:23,479 --> 01:38:27,599
Speaker 4: Jacksonville Buffalo I think is extremely interesting, more so because

1994
01:38:27,640 --> 01:38:29,879
Speaker 4: I think of the pressure on Josh Allen without Mahomes,

1995
01:38:29,960 --> 01:38:34,040
Speaker 4: Burrow and Lamar Jackson in the playoffs, Josh Allen, this

1996
01:38:34,120 --> 01:38:36,240
Speaker 4: is the year he's supposed to do it. The AFC

1997
01:38:36,400 --> 01:38:39,960
Speaker 4: is wide open. I don't know the staying power New

1998
01:38:39,960 --> 01:38:42,759
Speaker 4: England because of their strength of schedule, but the Chargers

1999
01:38:42,760 --> 01:38:45,760
Speaker 4: are just so banged up. Yeah, Pittsburgh has won twenty

2000
01:38:45,800 --> 01:38:49,320
Speaker 4: three straight home Monday night football games. Houston's defense is

2001
01:38:49,320 --> 01:38:52,960
Speaker 4: a different animal. That Jacksonville Buffalo game, to me is

2002
01:38:53,400 --> 01:38:57,400
Speaker 4: extremely extremely interesting. I also don't know how you can

2003
01:38:57,439 --> 01:38:58,879
Speaker 4: go away Chicago green.

2004
01:38:58,680 --> 01:39:01,120
Speaker 3: Bay r That's my answer.

2005
01:39:01,400 --> 01:39:06,599
Speaker 4: That that at Soldier Field, That to me is it. It

2006
01:39:06,640 --> 01:39:08,280
Speaker 4: opened up. Green Bay was a slight favorite. Now I

2007
01:39:08,280 --> 01:39:11,400
Speaker 4: think it's swung to Chicago. That to me is going

2008
01:39:11,439 --> 01:39:12,160
Speaker 4: to be fascinating.

2009
01:39:12,240 --> 01:39:15,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the game for me, that rivalry Saturday night

2010
01:39:15,280 --> 01:39:18,599
Speaker 3: Soldier Field. The Packers at time this year, at times

2011
01:39:18,640 --> 01:39:22,080
Speaker 3: this year have been terrific and here down the stretch

2012
01:39:22,120 --> 01:39:28,679
Speaker 3: they've been anything. But the Bears are a fun story

2013
01:39:28,720 --> 01:39:33,120
Speaker 3: and a good team. They've won so many weird games

2014
01:39:33,240 --> 01:39:36,200
Speaker 3: late that I'm always a little bit wary of a

2015
01:39:36,240 --> 01:39:39,559
Speaker 3: team like that counting on them in the postseason when

2016
01:39:39,560 --> 01:39:42,599
Speaker 3: the games get hard. What our luck maybe runs out?

2017
01:39:42,680 --> 01:39:44,840
Speaker 3: What was Philadelphia doing yesterday trying not to win?

2018
01:39:45,320 --> 01:39:47,200
Speaker 4: Why that?

2019
01:39:47,280 --> 01:39:47,920
Speaker 3: I have no idea.

2020
01:39:48,439 --> 01:39:51,360
Speaker 4: If you're Philly, would you rather play Green Bay or

2021
01:39:51,360 --> 01:39:52,080
Speaker 4: San Francisco?

2022
01:39:52,240 --> 01:39:53,840
Speaker 3: I would rather play Green Bay me too.

2023
01:39:54,880 --> 01:39:55,600
Speaker 4: San Francisco.

2024
01:39:55,680 --> 01:39:55,960
Speaker 3: That's a.

2025
01:39:56,840 --> 01:39:59,400
Speaker 4: I don't know that that's one of those teams too,

2026
01:39:59,439 --> 01:40:03,800
Speaker 4: because you get a coaching advantage with Shanahan, you get

2027
01:40:04,680 --> 01:40:06,640
Speaker 4: at most times you have the best player on the

2028
01:40:06,680 --> 01:40:10,880
Speaker 4: field and Christian McCaffrey. I just I think that is

2029
01:40:10,960 --> 01:40:14,160
Speaker 4: a I think it was a mistake for Philly to

2030
01:40:14,280 --> 01:40:15,799
Speaker 4: not try to win that game yesterday.

2031
01:40:16,760 --> 01:40:18,320
Speaker 3: If you had to wager an amount of money that

2032
01:40:18,360 --> 01:40:23,160
Speaker 3: matters to you on the Super Bowl matchup, what would

2033
01:40:23,160 --> 01:40:23,479
Speaker 3: you pick?

2034
01:40:23,560 --> 01:40:27,160
Speaker 4: I still think it's the Rams, and in the AFC,

2035
01:40:29,720 --> 01:40:30,920
Speaker 4: I'll take Denver.

2036
01:40:30,880 --> 01:40:31,760
Speaker 3: So that's my pick.

2037
01:40:31,920 --> 01:40:36,679
Speaker 4: I just don't know, Like I think Jacksonville is really good,

2038
01:40:37,400 --> 01:40:40,000
Speaker 4: and in saying that, I'm going against a team in

2039
01:40:40,080 --> 01:40:42,559
Speaker 4: Jacksonville who's won eight straight and Houston who's won nine straight,

2040
01:40:42,560 --> 01:40:46,200
Speaker 4: which is incredible, right, But like you could convince me

2041
01:40:46,280 --> 01:40:49,559
Speaker 4: Jacksonville wins out or Buffalo wins at But Buffalo at

2042
01:40:49,560 --> 01:40:51,360
Speaker 4: its best is fantastic. But I've seen them at their

2043
01:40:51,400 --> 01:40:54,360
Speaker 4: worst a lot, and I don't know the consistency that

2044
01:40:54,400 --> 01:40:58,439
Speaker 4: they have. I think, just by process of elimination, I

2045
01:40:58,479 --> 01:41:00,960
Speaker 4: go Denver and I went with the Rams for a

2046
01:41:01,000 --> 01:41:04,679
Speaker 4: long time now. Yeah, I think Seattle's had a great year.

2047
01:41:04,720 --> 01:41:07,000
Speaker 4: I think if there's one team that they probably wanted

2048
01:41:07,040 --> 01:41:09,320
Speaker 4: to avoid in that second round. It would be the Rams,

2049
01:41:10,000 --> 01:41:13,719
Speaker 4: and that's who they would see, assuming that the Rams

2050
01:41:14,520 --> 01:41:16,080
Speaker 4: can go to Bank of America Stadium.

2051
01:41:16,840 --> 01:41:19,160
Speaker 3: Tough place to play, you know those two teams. Panthers

2052
01:41:19,240 --> 01:41:21,200
Speaker 3: played the game in Charlotte earlier this year. That was

2053
01:41:21,240 --> 01:41:26,400
Speaker 3: a blast. It's a fun game. Yeah for Denver. You

2054
01:41:26,439 --> 01:41:28,960
Speaker 3: just said process of elimination. That's kind of what it

2055
01:41:29,000 --> 01:41:29,400
Speaker 3: was for me.

2056
01:41:29,560 --> 01:41:32,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, very good defense, Stay at the home field advantage, you.

2057
01:41:32,720 --> 01:41:34,719
Speaker 3: Know, like, is I sort of handicap it. I always

2058
01:41:34,720 --> 01:41:36,120
Speaker 3: start with the team that has to play the fewest

2059
01:41:36,200 --> 01:41:38,240
Speaker 3: number of games, and that's obviously Denver with the with

2060
01:41:38,280 --> 01:41:40,960
Speaker 3: the first round by and then I think of their

2061
01:41:41,000 --> 01:41:45,240
Speaker 3: biggest fatal flaw against everybody else's biggest fatal flaw. I

2062
01:41:45,280 --> 01:41:47,960
Speaker 3: think they have a good home field advantage, They have

2063
01:41:48,040 --> 01:41:52,400
Speaker 3: a championship caliber defense, bow Knicks is good enough, and

2064
01:41:52,479 --> 01:41:54,200
Speaker 3: I just I don't know what's the biggest question with

2065
01:41:54,280 --> 01:41:57,120
Speaker 3: them offensive consistency overall.

2066
01:41:56,760 --> 01:42:00,759
Speaker 4: Offense scores on them? Can they win a shootout style

2067
01:42:00,800 --> 01:42:01,200
Speaker 4: game if.

2068
01:42:01,160 --> 01:42:03,040
Speaker 3: They have to play the sort of game where they're

2069
01:42:03,080 --> 01:42:04,920
Speaker 3: down fourteen to nothing and now you've got to mount

2070
01:42:04,920 --> 01:42:07,880
Speaker 3: a little bit of a comeback, yeah, Or defensively it's

2071
01:42:07,960 --> 01:42:11,400
Speaker 3: just not taking shape and you've got a score for

2072
01:42:11,439 --> 01:42:15,880
Speaker 3: score yeah yeah, yeah. I wonder about that with them,

2073
01:42:15,880 --> 01:42:17,439
Speaker 3: but I think their defense is good enough that it's

2074
01:42:17,439 --> 01:42:18,760
Speaker 3: going to keep them from having to be able to

2075
01:42:18,840 --> 01:42:21,519
Speaker 3: do that. I think with the AFC, Chargers have so

2076
01:42:21,560 --> 01:42:24,200
Speaker 3: many injuries, including obviously with the two tackles on the

2077
01:42:24,240 --> 01:42:28,760
Speaker 3: offensive line. The Patriots don't rush the quarterback all that well.

2078
01:42:28,800 --> 01:42:32,599
Speaker 3: They're not great defensively. There are questions about who they've played.

2079
01:42:35,160 --> 01:42:39,320
Speaker 3: I think there's a fatal flaw there. The Texans offense

2080
01:42:39,439 --> 01:42:43,559
Speaker 3: is so maddeningly inconsistent. They're bad up front. As great

2081
01:42:43,560 --> 01:42:47,080
Speaker 3: as their defense has been, it hasn't been awesome down

2082
01:42:47,120 --> 01:42:50,920
Speaker 3: the stretch. Wasn't great against India yesterday. Steelers just don't

2083
01:42:50,960 --> 01:42:55,080
Speaker 3: have a very good offense. I think maybe the second

2084
01:42:55,760 --> 01:42:58,799
Speaker 3: most bankable team in the AFC is Jacksonville, and had

2085
01:42:58,840 --> 01:43:01,559
Speaker 3: they gotten the one, that'd be my pick. You know.

2086
01:43:01,640 --> 01:43:03,920
Speaker 4: The thing the only thing that wears me with the

2087
01:43:04,000 --> 01:43:06,920
Speaker 4: Rams they've lost that they lost that ability when they

2088
01:43:07,000 --> 01:43:09,040
Speaker 4: head to head against Seattle to have the home field,

2089
01:43:09,800 --> 01:43:13,519
Speaker 4: that offense in a dome completely different than what the

2090
01:43:13,520 --> 01:43:16,759
Speaker 4: Weather could be in Seattle. Yeah, you know, two weekends

2091
01:43:16,760 --> 01:43:19,760
Speaker 4: from now, or Chicago or Philly or any of those

2092
01:43:19,800 --> 01:43:23,640
Speaker 4: teams that are ahead of them. Those That's my my

2093
01:43:23,800 --> 01:43:27,040
Speaker 4: question with the Rams with that passing attack, and that's

2094
01:43:27,040 --> 01:43:29,080
Speaker 4: not taking away because Kyri Williams and an offense can

2095
01:43:29,160 --> 01:43:32,519
Speaker 4: run too, But does Weather become a factor because they

2096
01:43:32,600 --> 01:43:33,479
Speaker 4: missed out on the one seat?

2097
01:43:33,560 --> 01:43:36,360
Speaker 3: And then with with La with the Rams, you got

2098
01:43:36,400 --> 01:43:38,280
Speaker 3: to win three games at some point, you got to

2099
01:43:38,280 --> 01:43:39,800
Speaker 3: win a close one. To win a close one, you

2100
01:43:39,800 --> 01:43:42,360
Speaker 3: can't have special teams mistakes. Their special teams has been

2101
01:43:42,439 --> 01:43:43,120
Speaker 3: terrible all season.

2102
01:43:43,320 --> 01:43:44,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, fire coordinator midseason they did.

2103
01:43:45,040 --> 01:43:49,519
Speaker 3: But if I will make this wager because it's fun,

2104
01:43:50,160 --> 01:43:52,879
Speaker 3: I'll go Denver La. I haven't looked at the odds,

2105
01:43:53,240 --> 01:43:56,920
Speaker 3: but I'm the Rams have the second shortest odds to

2106
01:43:57,000 --> 01:43:59,960
Speaker 3: win the Super Bowl in there a five seat yep.

2107
01:44:01,000 --> 01:44:04,280
Speaker 4: It just to me looking at it as one of

2108
01:44:04,320 --> 01:44:07,320
Speaker 4: the most wide open fields, it is like there's not

2109
01:44:07,400 --> 01:44:09,560
Speaker 4: that there's the powerhouse.

2110
01:44:09,640 --> 01:44:13,080
Speaker 3: I just think of. For most of this century, the

2111
01:44:13,120 --> 01:44:17,599
Speaker 3: one Seeds have always felt like are wrong above everybody else,

2112
01:44:17,960 --> 01:44:21,840
Speaker 3: whether it's been the Patriots for years, the Chiefs for

2113
01:44:22,160 --> 01:44:25,760
Speaker 3: a number of years, that doesn't feel like the case

2114
01:44:25,840 --> 01:44:30,040
Speaker 3: right now. And again like just look no further than

2115
01:44:30,040 --> 01:44:32,519
Speaker 3: the Vegas odds. The Rams will open on the road

2116
01:44:32,600 --> 01:44:35,879
Speaker 3: as a five seed and they have these second shortest

2117
01:44:35,920 --> 01:44:38,639
Speaker 3: odds in the entire field to win the whole thing. Yeah,

2118
01:44:38,800 --> 01:44:42,280
Speaker 3: that speaks to how wide open it is. Twenty eight

2119
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Speaker 3: away from six o'clock. We were both in Memphis for

2120
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Speaker 3: the Liberty Bowl. We'll spend a few minutes on that

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Speaker 3: and life posts swersby for the Bearcats coming up. Tony

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Speaker 5: Seen a couple of accidents on southbound seventy five. The

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Speaker 5: first one at Cooper that's off onto the right shoulder,

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Speaker 5: and the other one is after Paddock Road. To use

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Speaker 5: caution traveling in through there. It's an accident with minor

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Speaker 5: injuries on Winton Road that's between Dutch Colony Drive and

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Speaker 5: Oakfield Avenue that he's sound like with traffic.

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Speaker 3: today that Zach Taylor will be the team's head coach

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Speaker 3: in twenty twenty six, and Duke Tobin will be the

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Speaker 3: Director of Player Personnel and Situations and Things are whatever

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Speaker 3: his title is, it's not GM. Bengals finishing the season

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Speaker 3: with a home loss to the Browns yesterday to wind

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Speaker 3: up six and eleven, their worst record since twenty twenty. Meanwhile,

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Speaker 3: in Vegas, the Raiders Ninado coach Pete Carroll whacked. In Cleveland,

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01:46:16,120 --> 01:46:19,240
Speaker 3: the Browns have fired Kevin Stefanski. I'm not sure he'll

2147
01:46:19,280 --> 01:46:22,120
Speaker 3: be out of work very long. Nope. Who else do

2148
01:46:22,200 --> 01:46:26,799
Speaker 3: we have? The Atlanta Falcons, after their win yesterday, announced

2149
01:46:26,800 --> 01:46:30,599
Speaker 3: that they had fired Raheem Morris. He's gone see you, Raheem.

2150
01:46:30,680 --> 01:46:34,800
Speaker 3: Jonathan Jonathan Gannon Arizona thank you. Also let go by

2151
01:46:34,840 --> 01:46:39,560
Speaker 3: the Arizona Cardinals. College basketball Miami RedHawks up to thirtieth

2152
01:46:39,600 --> 01:46:42,320
Speaker 3: in the AP Top twenty five pole. Travis Steel's team

2153
01:46:42,360 --> 01:46:46,439
Speaker 3: remains unbeaten. Ohio State battles Nebraskas and I by the Way,

2154
01:46:46,439 --> 01:46:49,760
Speaker 3: Louisville is a twentieth Coaches shows this evening, The Mark

2155
01:46:49,800 --> 01:46:53,040
Speaker 3: Pope Show at six on ESPN fifteen thirty, The NKU

2156
01:46:53,120 --> 01:46:57,040
Speaker 3: Coaches Show is at seven pm on ESPN fifteen thirty,

2157
01:46:57,080 --> 01:47:01,080
Speaker 3: and the Richard Patino Radio Show is that's seven o'clock

2158
01:47:01,160 --> 01:47:06,240
Speaker 3: on fifty five k rc UH. And congratulations go out

2159
01:47:06,280 --> 01:47:10,280
Speaker 3: to the Cowboy Jeff Brantley, who has been named the

2160
01:47:10,760 --> 01:47:15,960
Speaker 3: Let's Go National Sports Media Association Ohio Sportscaster of the Year.

2161
01:47:16,040 --> 01:47:18,920
Speaker 3: Well done, well done, no question about that. The Cowboy.

2162
01:47:19,080 --> 01:47:21,839
Speaker 3: Red's also announced their lineup for Reds Fest. Kyle Schwarber

2163
01:47:21,880 --> 01:47:25,280
Speaker 3: will not be at Reds Fest, even though he's from here,

2164
01:47:25,400 --> 01:47:27,200
Speaker 3: even though he's from here, he could come as a fan,

2165
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Speaker 3: and even though they kind of sort of tried to

2166
01:47:29,600 --> 01:47:31,000
Speaker 3: get him, Yeah, he's not coming to.

2167
01:47:30,960 --> 01:47:32,680
Speaker 4: Pay the Reds fan growing up. Maybe once to go

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01:47:32,760 --> 01:47:34,960
Speaker 4: see some of the folks that'll be there.

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01:47:34,960 --> 01:47:37,639
Speaker 3: Do you think it would be odd if he showed

2170
01:47:37,680 --> 01:47:38,920
Speaker 3: up at Reds Fest as fan?

2171
01:47:40,600 --> 01:47:42,040
Speaker 4: Give us something else to talk about. What the Kyle

2172
01:47:42,080 --> 01:47:46,720
Speaker 4: Schwarber Sweepstakes, Redsfest returns. This, JJ going to be there.

2173
01:47:47,160 --> 01:47:50,519
Speaker 3: Uh here, I'll look at JJ JJ Blade will be there.

2174
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Speaker 4: There we go, Here we go.

2175
01:47:55,280 --> 01:47:59,519
Speaker 3: So will alumni That includes Bronson Arroyo, Tucker Barnhardt, Marty

2176
01:47:59,560 --> 01:48:06,120
Speaker 3: brennanman Sean Casey, Todd Frazier, Danny Graves, Austin Kerns, Larry Luber's, Larry,

2177
01:48:07,000 --> 01:48:10,160
Speaker 3: Devin Mezerako, Dave Miley, Sam Leck here, Chris Welsh and

2178
01:48:10,240 --> 01:48:14,920
Speaker 3: Doug bhar all Right, Doug, I like Reds Fest. Reds

2179
01:48:14,920 --> 01:48:17,280
Speaker 3: Fest is a good time. Love Reds Fest. Yeah, love

2180
01:48:17,320 --> 01:48:19,720
Speaker 3: Reds Fest. What do we have?

2181
01:48:20,920 --> 01:48:21,600
Speaker 5: Uh?

2182
01:48:21,640 --> 01:48:22,719
Speaker 3: We were at the Liberty Bowl.

2183
01:48:23,280 --> 01:48:23,760
Speaker 4: Got lost.

2184
01:48:24,240 --> 01:48:26,479
Speaker 3: They did anything else? They had no chance of winning

2185
01:48:26,479 --> 01:48:29,439
Speaker 3: that football game. No, I they did. Dan. You and

2186
01:48:29,520 --> 01:48:34,160
Speaker 3: Dan talked about this on the broadcast. I am I

2187
01:48:34,200 --> 01:48:36,599
Speaker 3: am a big proponent of a lot of the changes

2188
01:48:36,880 --> 01:48:45,240
Speaker 3: that we've had in college sports. I hate how these

2189
01:48:45,280 --> 01:48:47,960
Speaker 3: games unfold like you want to go, Well, they're meaningless.

2190
01:48:47,960 --> 01:48:53,040
Speaker 3: Who cares that's but if you're going to have them,

2191
01:48:53,160 --> 01:48:54,160
Speaker 3: I did.

2192
01:48:54,200 --> 01:48:55,240
Speaker 4: They They played hard.

2193
01:48:55,400 --> 01:48:58,320
Speaker 3: The players who played played hard. And the defense Tyson

2194
01:48:58,320 --> 01:49:00,439
Speaker 3: invite the defensive coordinators off to pay State to be

2195
01:49:00,479 --> 01:49:03,640
Speaker 3: the linebackers coach. I thought defensively they did about as

2196
01:49:03,640 --> 01:49:06,639
Speaker 3: well as you could expect. Yeah, and credit to Navy,

2197
01:49:06,720 --> 01:49:08,360
Speaker 3: And look, Navy's not a team you want to play

2198
01:49:08,400 --> 01:49:10,920
Speaker 3: because they're gonna have no opt outs. Service academies have

2199
01:49:10,920 --> 01:49:15,160
Speaker 3: won eight consecutive Bowl games. I just I hate that

2200
01:49:15,400 --> 01:49:19,200
Speaker 3: those games end up not being representative of what a

2201
01:49:19,200 --> 01:49:21,920
Speaker 3: team has been all season long. Now, the Bearcat season

2202
01:49:21,960 --> 01:49:25,519
Speaker 3: fizzled out, there's no getting around it. Extraordinarily disappointing, But

2203
01:49:25,640 --> 01:49:28,600
Speaker 3: in so many cases, you will put a team on

2204
01:49:28,640 --> 01:49:31,640
Speaker 3: the field that is not representative of what you have

2205
01:49:31,720 --> 01:49:35,400
Speaker 3: been all year. And that two a degree took place

2206
01:49:35,479 --> 01:49:36,400
Speaker 3: on Friday night.

2207
01:49:37,040 --> 01:49:38,439
Speaker 4: You know, if you want to talk about x's and

2208
01:49:38,479 --> 01:49:42,040
Speaker 4: o's in the game twenty one to seven, U see

2209
01:49:42,080 --> 01:49:44,679
Speaker 4: bust a thirty eight to thirty nine yard run. They're

2210
01:49:44,720 --> 01:49:48,639
Speaker 4: in Navy territory. They tried to reverse flea flicker pass disaster.

2211
01:49:48,800 --> 01:49:52,839
Speaker 4: Felt like the game ended then and again the players

2212
01:49:52,840 --> 01:49:55,960
Speaker 4: that played played hard. This is the system. It's that

2213
01:49:56,040 --> 01:49:58,800
Speaker 4: it is right now. Yeah, I have found myself since

2214
01:49:58,840 --> 01:50:03,679
Speaker 4: the game ended, becoming increasingly worried about how they bring

2215
01:50:04,000 --> 01:50:06,760
Speaker 4: and run this back next year. You look at this year,

2216
01:50:07,400 --> 01:50:10,599
Speaker 4: Jake Golday and Devin teknastar on the All American list.

2217
01:50:11,439 --> 01:50:13,320
Speaker 4: They had an offensive line that gave up what three

2218
01:50:13,360 --> 01:50:14,000
Speaker 4: sacks all year?

2219
01:50:14,240 --> 01:50:15,520
Speaker 3: Was really good all season.

2220
01:50:15,360 --> 01:50:17,959
Speaker 4: Good running game average second the nation and yards.

2221
01:50:17,720 --> 01:50:19,880
Speaker 3: Per carry five million dollar quarterback.

2222
01:50:19,600 --> 01:50:22,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, second the nation, yards per carry fifth in the nation,

2223
01:50:22,840 --> 01:50:25,880
Speaker 4: yards per play, a quarterback who was viewed by many

2224
01:50:25,920 --> 01:50:28,800
Speaker 4: experts as the top player in the portal that just

2225
01:50:28,840 --> 01:50:30,640
Speaker 4: got five or five plus million dollars to go to

2226
01:50:30,680 --> 01:50:35,479
Speaker 4: Texas Tech. A wide receiver and a wide receiver in

2227
01:50:35,520 --> 01:50:39,360
Speaker 4: Cyrus Allen who tied Marcus Barnett's single season record. Joe

2228
01:50:39,479 --> 01:50:42,439
Speaker 4: Royer is going to play on Sundays. They have offensive

2229
01:50:42,439 --> 01:50:44,599
Speaker 4: line Gavin gerhard WoT have a chance to play on Sundays.

2230
01:50:46,400 --> 01:50:48,120
Speaker 4: Dante Corleone will play on Sundays.

2231
01:50:48,200 --> 01:50:49,320
Speaker 3: They had better special teams.

2232
01:50:49,400 --> 01:50:52,599
Speaker 4: Jake Golday will play on Sundays, and Twine Peak Junior

2233
01:50:52,600 --> 01:50:56,240
Speaker 4: had a really good year. They are decimated at say

2234
01:50:56,320 --> 01:51:00,160
Speaker 4: at secondary level right now. Special teams were better and

2235
01:51:00,160 --> 01:51:03,160
Speaker 4: they won seven and lost their five yeah, last games,

2236
01:51:03,600 --> 01:51:10,639
Speaker 4: Like I wonder with all of those players and then

2237
01:51:10,720 --> 01:51:15,960
Speaker 4: moving on, how you piece it back together well, which

2238
01:51:16,000 --> 01:51:17,320
Speaker 4: is the job of a lot of teams.

2239
01:51:17,160 --> 01:51:19,760
Speaker 3: No, no doubt about it. But it's an easier pill

2240
01:51:19,800 --> 01:51:22,160
Speaker 3: to swallow if you're coming off a year where you went,

2241
01:51:22,200 --> 01:51:23,840
Speaker 3: we had all those guys in won ten games, or

2242
01:51:23,880 --> 01:51:25,680
Speaker 3: had all those guys in won nine games? Like I

2243
01:51:25,760 --> 01:51:28,880
Speaker 3: put this on social media after the game, that that

2244
01:51:28,960 --> 01:51:31,080
Speaker 3: result would have been a lot easier to swallow had

2245
01:51:31,080 --> 01:51:33,040
Speaker 3: they just taken care of business in two games they

2246
01:51:33,080 --> 01:51:35,439
Speaker 3: should have won, yep, which were Arizona and BYU. And

2247
01:51:35,479 --> 01:51:36,960
Speaker 3: then you go, okay, they went nine and three.

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01:51:37,240 --> 01:51:37,439
Speaker 4: Yep.

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Speaker 3: The Bowl game was what it was instead of just

2250
01:51:39,520 --> 01:51:42,160
Speaker 3: to a degree, felt like an extension of the way

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01:51:42,479 --> 01:51:45,360
Speaker 3: the season ended. It's funny when if you knew nothing

2252
01:51:45,360 --> 01:51:47,320
Speaker 3: about this team, and you knew nothing about how the

2253
01:51:47,360 --> 01:51:50,400
Speaker 3: season ended, but you heard somebody talk about all the

2254
01:51:50,439 --> 01:51:54,080
Speaker 3: players they have to replace, either dudes who graduated or

2255
01:51:54,120 --> 01:51:56,000
Speaker 3: guys who have hit the portal. Yeah, you would think

2256
01:51:56,000 --> 01:51:57,360
Speaker 3: it was an eleven win team and.

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Speaker 4: Major portal players. Like I said, yes, highest rated portal.

2258
01:52:00,880 --> 01:52:02,000
Speaker 4: Yes was your quarterback?

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01:52:02,080 --> 01:52:02,360
Speaker 8: Right?

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Speaker 3: I just Keagan Nickoson wrote about this after the last

2261
01:52:06,840 --> 01:52:10,240
Speaker 3: regular season game, and I think it was a fair

2262
01:52:10,280 --> 01:52:14,200
Speaker 3: assessment on one hand, and Scott Saderfield talked about after

2263
01:52:14,240 --> 01:52:17,479
Speaker 3: the game against TCU, Hey, we won seven games. Its progress,

2264
01:52:17,640 --> 01:52:22,479
Speaker 3: it is, but it felt like last offseason was building

2265
01:52:22,520 --> 01:52:26,080
Speaker 3: to something bigger and better than seven wins and five

2266
01:52:26,120 --> 01:52:26,759
Speaker 3: straight losses.

2267
01:52:26,760 --> 01:52:29,519
Speaker 4: And seven and one felt like a chance to play

2268
01:52:29,520 --> 01:52:30,840
Speaker 4: in Dallas for a big twelve title.

2269
01:52:30,880 --> 01:52:33,960
Speaker 3: And if you understand the college football is year to year, right,

2270
01:52:34,000 --> 01:52:36,519
Speaker 3: it's year to year in terms of your roster. If

2271
01:52:36,560 --> 01:52:39,080
Speaker 3: you have to replace a lot of players who are

2272
01:52:39,120 --> 01:52:41,519
Speaker 3: either gonna play in the NFL or get paid more

2273
01:52:41,560 --> 01:52:44,920
Speaker 3: money to go elsewhere, that's cool. You gotta do better

2274
01:52:44,920 --> 01:52:45,599
Speaker 3: than seven wins.

2275
01:52:45,640 --> 01:52:47,400
Speaker 4: All they had to do last year was revamped the

2276
01:52:47,439 --> 01:52:49,799
Speaker 4: wide receiver room. Yeah, and they did, to their credit.

2277
01:52:50,160 --> 01:52:52,320
Speaker 4: But they didn't have to worry about running back. They

2278
01:52:52,400 --> 01:52:53,160
Speaker 4: have to worry about.

2279
01:52:53,040 --> 01:52:55,520
Speaker 3: Quarterback, offensive line, linebacker.

2280
01:52:55,560 --> 01:52:58,000
Speaker 4: They do now. They gotta worry about allo positions. They

2281
01:52:58,000 --> 01:53:01,479
Speaker 4: gotta worry about Dante Corleon being gone, Jake Golde being gone.

2282
01:53:01,520 --> 01:53:04,360
Speaker 4: They got to worry about a new defensive coordinator and

2283
01:53:04,400 --> 01:53:07,240
Speaker 4: a new system. Their system was built around to three

2284
01:53:07,280 --> 01:53:10,240
Speaker 4: three five? What's the new defensive coordinator bring? How many

2285
01:53:10,280 --> 01:53:13,360
Speaker 4: players would a coordinator his name say, Nah, this isn't

2286
01:53:13,360 --> 01:53:17,280
Speaker 4: my system. I'm out now Like this is they now

2287
01:53:17,320 --> 01:53:20,120
Speaker 4: have a tall, tall task to tackle this offseason. Yeah,

2288
01:53:20,120 --> 01:53:24,160
Speaker 4: and they've had coaches that have been plucked away, They've

2289
01:53:24,200 --> 01:53:27,920
Speaker 4: had scouting department personnel guys that have been plucked away.

2290
01:53:28,560 --> 01:53:29,960
Speaker 4: There's a lot that they've got to do.

2291
01:53:30,280 --> 01:53:35,000
Speaker 3: It's there's a lot right about the program except in

2292
01:53:35,040 --> 01:53:38,640
Speaker 3: the win total. Yeah right, that's not making excuses for him.

2293
01:53:38,680 --> 01:53:40,679
Speaker 3: The win total is what matters the most, and that's

2294
01:53:40,680 --> 01:53:43,479
Speaker 3: why this season was so frustrating. So you look at

2295
01:53:43,479 --> 01:53:45,000
Speaker 3: next year and go, Okay, we're going to take a

2296
01:53:45,000 --> 01:53:48,160
Speaker 3: step back. To me, a step back season should be

2297
01:53:48,520 --> 01:53:51,760
Speaker 3: seven wins. Yeah, right, that's the step back season. Hey,

2298
01:53:51,800 --> 01:53:54,479
Speaker 3: you know what, we're still Bowl eligible. We're still winning

2299
01:53:54,479 --> 01:53:58,160
Speaker 3: more than we're losing. Now you hear step back from what?

2300
01:53:58,320 --> 01:53:59,719
Speaker 3: Step back from? Seven wins?

2301
01:54:00,040 --> 01:54:02,680
Speaker 4: And it's what bowl? Boston College who didn't win a

2302
01:54:02,720 --> 01:54:07,280
Speaker 4: game this year? Yeah, Western Carolina, Miami of Ohio at

2303
01:54:07,280 --> 01:54:10,360
Speaker 4: pay Corps. Those are your three non conference and I

2304
01:54:10,360 --> 01:54:12,360
Speaker 4: don't have it in front of me, but I do

2305
01:54:12,439 --> 01:54:16,040
Speaker 4: believe that their home slate is very winnable. Yes, outside

2306
01:54:16,080 --> 01:54:18,600
Speaker 4: of the Texas Tech does come to town. Outside of that,

2307
01:54:18,680 --> 01:54:24,240
Speaker 4: it's Kansas State it's Colorado and I'm missing one of

2308
01:54:24,280 --> 01:54:25,920
Speaker 4: the other ones that come to Nippert.

2309
01:54:25,920 --> 01:54:28,160
Speaker 3: If you give me a second, I will I will

2310
01:54:28,160 --> 01:54:28,760
Speaker 3: pull this up.

2311
01:54:28,920 --> 01:54:34,920
Speaker 4: Difficult road trips. Utah comes to town, they go to BYU.

2312
01:54:35,040 --> 01:54:37,720
Speaker 4: I think they go to Iowa State, who's replacing their

2313
01:54:37,720 --> 01:54:43,240
Speaker 4: head coach. So yeah, based on the schedule alone, seven

2314
01:54:43,280 --> 01:54:44,520
Speaker 4: would start at the bare minimum.

2315
01:54:44,600 --> 01:54:47,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, like, are they're gonna have to take a step back?

2316
01:54:48,320 --> 01:54:51,040
Speaker 3: You go, Okay, step back if you're coming off a

2317
01:54:51,040 --> 01:54:54,200
Speaker 3: ten win year, fine, eleven win year college football playoff? Ye,

2318
01:54:54,200 --> 01:54:56,920
Speaker 3: which would be the goal? Okay, cool? Seven wins, they'll

2319
01:54:56,960 --> 01:54:58,880
Speaker 3: be competitive. We're talking about taking a step back from

2320
01:54:58,880 --> 01:55:02,480
Speaker 3: a seven win season. Yeah. Brendan Soresby goes to Texas Tech.

2321
01:55:02,680 --> 01:55:06,800
Speaker 3: He's gonna get reportedly five maybe six million dollars. I'm

2322
01:55:06,840 --> 01:55:12,640
Speaker 3: happy for him. Good guy. Is the twenty twenty six

2323
01:55:12,720 --> 01:55:16,320
Speaker 3: quarterback currently on the roster. I don't think so. Samas

2324
01:55:16,400 --> 01:55:17,880
Speaker 3: Jones did not distinguish.

2325
01:55:17,480 --> 01:55:23,600
Speaker 4: Himself, no, not as a passer, And a worry would

2326
01:55:23,600 --> 01:55:27,000
Speaker 4: be if a Sowresby is getting five or six million,

2327
01:55:27,800 --> 01:55:31,000
Speaker 4: the type of quarterback like they obviously needed more than

2328
01:55:31,000 --> 01:55:33,240
Speaker 4: what swords Be gave him this year. You can't spend

2329
01:55:33,440 --> 01:55:34,960
Speaker 4: no offense. You're not gonna be able to spend six

2330
01:55:35,000 --> 01:55:37,720
Speaker 4: on this roster on just a quarterback. Right, how do

2331
01:55:37,760 --> 01:55:39,120
Speaker 4: you go about finding your quarterback?

2332
01:55:39,280 --> 01:55:39,400
Speaker 3: Right?

2333
01:55:39,480 --> 01:55:40,680
Speaker 4: And what can you pay that guy?

2334
01:55:40,840 --> 01:55:41,040
Speaker 3: Right?

2335
01:55:42,080 --> 01:55:45,880
Speaker 4: I mean that's you say what you want. Player could

2336
01:55:45,880 --> 01:55:47,840
Speaker 4: come in and love meetings, Scott Soudderfield could love the

2337
01:55:47,880 --> 01:55:49,520
Speaker 4: city of Cincinnati. At the end of the day, he's

2338
01:55:49,520 --> 01:55:51,800
Speaker 4: gonna say what can you give me financially? That's gonna

2339
01:55:51,800 --> 01:55:55,240
Speaker 4: be what the decision is based on. So that's the question.

2340
01:55:57,240 --> 01:55:59,520
Speaker 3: I like Brendan soars by a lot. I hope he

2341
01:55:59,560 --> 01:56:04,400
Speaker 3: does well Texas Tech. Except when they played Cincinnati. He

2342
01:56:04,560 --> 01:56:07,200
Speaker 3: is being talked about and written about like somebody who

2343
01:56:07,240 --> 01:56:10,360
Speaker 3: had an incredible season that you see. And while he

2344
01:56:10,560 --> 01:56:15,400
Speaker 3: was good Mount Rushmore type season, some would say, like,

2345
01:56:16,600 --> 01:56:19,200
Speaker 3: I didn't see it. Sorry, I just didn't see it.

2346
01:56:19,240 --> 01:56:21,080
Speaker 4: My problem was in the biggest games they played, I

2347
01:56:21,080 --> 01:56:21,520
Speaker 4: didn't see it.

2348
01:56:21,640 --> 01:56:21,920
Speaker 3: Right.

2349
01:56:22,120 --> 01:56:24,960
Speaker 4: Five and two two years ago, Yeah, chance to make

2350
01:56:24,960 --> 01:56:26,600
Speaker 4: a run. They lost five games in a row down

2351
01:56:26,640 --> 01:56:29,160
Speaker 4: the stretch, he announces he's coming back. They open up

2352
01:56:29,160 --> 01:56:31,480
Speaker 4: the season on the road at Nebraska. They had thirty

2353
01:56:31,480 --> 01:56:33,640
Speaker 4: eight thirty nine passing yards going into the final drive

2354
01:56:33,680 --> 01:56:35,960
Speaker 4: of the game, he throws a pick. Then he he

2355
01:56:35,960 --> 01:56:38,880
Speaker 4: heats up no offense against teams that warn is good

2356
01:56:39,560 --> 01:56:42,960
Speaker 4: as the other opponents. And then down the stretch you

2357
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Speaker 4: tall BYU Arizona, TCU. Better defenses didn't show up as much.

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Speaker 3: What I'm really interested in is when he goes to

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01:56:51,360 --> 01:56:53,480
Speaker 3: Texas Tech, does he throw the ball to his tight end?

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Speaker 4: Huh?

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01:56:54,880 --> 01:56:57,280
Speaker 3: His tight end I betched against the Bearcats next season gains.

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01:56:57,160 --> 01:57:03,680
Speaker 4: Like eleven targets, nine catches a buck thirty two two tutters.

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Speaker 3: Tarren, How are we on time? How much sun do

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Speaker 3: we have left? Six minutes? It's time for the college

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Speaker 3: basketball Detour Okay. On Saturday against a top ten team,

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Speaker 3: the reigning national runner up, the UC Bearcats tied the

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Speaker 3: score at sixty on a dunk by Mustapha Cham with

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Speaker 3: three minutes and fifty two seconds remaining. Those would not

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01:57:32,160 --> 01:57:35,640
Speaker 3: only be UC's last points, that would be their last

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01:57:35,680 --> 01:57:40,480
Speaker 3: field goal attempt until the closing seconds and a desperation

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01:57:40,640 --> 01:57:44,160
Speaker 3: heave desperation three with the team with the game out

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01:57:44,160 --> 01:57:48,880
Speaker 3: of reach in between five turnovers ye if I'm not

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01:57:48,920 --> 01:57:52,760
Speaker 3: miss I'm sorry. No four turnovers and two miss free

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01:57:52,800 --> 01:57:57,240
Speaker 3: throws and so I badly want to look at that

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01:57:57,320 --> 01:57:59,480
Speaker 3: game and go, you know what, they hung in there

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01:57:59,480 --> 01:58:02,720
Speaker 3: against U and if they just play that way, they're

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01:58:02,720 --> 01:58:04,920
Speaker 3: gonna be five in the Big twelve. But two things

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01:58:04,960 --> 01:58:09,960
Speaker 3: about it. Number One, the game followed a painfully familiar script. Yep.

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01:58:10,400 --> 01:58:13,000
Speaker 3: For a while now, they just haven't been able to

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01:58:13,040 --> 01:58:16,440
Speaker 3: make the play down the stretch or plays. They haven't

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01:58:16,480 --> 01:58:18,720
Speaker 3: been able to get stops, they haven't been able to

2382
01:58:18,720 --> 01:58:21,600
Speaker 3: get buckets when the games have been hanging in the balance.

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01:58:22,160 --> 01:58:26,640
Speaker 3: Number Two, they have six losses. Like if they lose

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01:58:26,720 --> 01:58:31,280
Speaker 3: that game and it's lost number two or lost number three, easy.

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01:58:31,000 --> 01:58:33,920
Speaker 4: To swallch What if they beat Michigan and Xavier right when.

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01:58:33,800 --> 01:58:37,360
Speaker 3: You're eight and six? Yeah, it's it's it's it's less

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01:58:37,400 --> 01:58:40,160
Speaker 3: about how you play and more about do you win.

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01:58:40,320 --> 01:58:42,720
Speaker 4: If then they didn't win, if the non conference losses

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01:58:42,760 --> 01:58:46,920
Speaker 4: were to Clemson and Georgia, fine, and you played Houston

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01:58:46,960 --> 01:58:49,360
Speaker 4: that way, Yeah, I feel pretty good about where things

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01:58:49,400 --> 01:58:53,800
Speaker 4: are at. Yeah, here here's I start. I hate when

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01:58:53,840 --> 01:58:57,440
Speaker 4: people say, well, they played hard, that's the prerequisite, that's

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01:58:57,440 --> 01:59:00,520
Speaker 4: a given, like that should be easy. You don't say,

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01:59:00,520 --> 01:59:03,520
Speaker 4: you know what, these guys are playing hard. Many that's

2395
01:59:03,880 --> 01:59:06,200
Speaker 4: that's every like, if you're not playing hard, what are

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01:59:06,200 --> 01:59:08,440
Speaker 4: you doing? And I agree, if they'd have played with

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01:59:08,440 --> 01:59:10,680
Speaker 4: that effort against EATERN Michigan, they'd beat him by thirty.

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01:59:10,880 --> 01:59:12,840
Speaker 4: If they'd have played with that intensity against Savior, that

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01:59:12,880 --> 01:59:15,640
Speaker 4: he went to the Cintas Center and won, that's true,

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01:59:16,040 --> 01:59:19,800
Speaker 4: but that can't be something you celebrate in close games. Oh,

2401
01:59:19,880 --> 01:59:23,000
Speaker 4: we played hard efforts, implied. The in game stuff itself

2402
01:59:23,040 --> 01:59:25,720
Speaker 4: is maddening. Dayde Thomas went on a twelve zero run

2403
01:59:25,760 --> 01:59:27,840
Speaker 4: before the end of the first half. Couldn't get an

2404
01:59:27,880 --> 01:59:30,160
Speaker 4: easy look in the second half. Have seen that before.

2405
01:59:30,440 --> 01:59:33,160
Speaker 4: You've got a guy who's red hot.

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01:59:33,440 --> 01:59:33,840
Speaker 3: Then what.

2407
01:59:35,280 --> 01:59:37,320
Speaker 4: Another team gets a guy that's red hot, do you

2408
01:59:37,360 --> 01:59:39,880
Speaker 4: do anything to take him away? It's two players down

2409
01:59:39,920 --> 01:59:42,280
Speaker 4: the stretch for Houston. You couldn't do anything to get

2410
01:59:42,280 --> 01:59:44,360
Speaker 4: the ball on their hands. You held a manual sharp

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01:59:44,440 --> 01:59:47,080
Speaker 4: to two points on the day, lost the game at

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01:59:47,080 --> 01:59:49,680
Speaker 4: one point. I don't know what the time was. It

2413
01:59:49,720 --> 01:59:51,520
Speaker 4: felt like ten minutes when Bien was four to four.

2414
01:59:52,440 --> 01:59:54,680
Speaker 4: You held them before, but you only scored four. Yeah,

2415
01:59:55,040 --> 01:59:58,480
Speaker 4: so many missed opportunities. The ten point lead that evaporated

2416
01:59:58,560 --> 02:00:01,360
Speaker 4: so quick in the second half, and then down the stretch.

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02:00:01,960 --> 02:00:05,720
Speaker 4: It felt people I'm at the game with. There were

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02:00:05,960 --> 02:00:08,120
Speaker 4: two or three times in the last six minutes, coming

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02:00:08,120 --> 02:00:10,600
Speaker 4: out of a break, I said, this is a must

2420
02:00:10,600 --> 02:00:13,680
Speaker 4: score possession. Whatever your best play is this year, you

2421
02:00:13,720 --> 02:00:15,640
Speaker 4: got to do it now. And it was a shot

2422
02:00:15,720 --> 02:00:19,520
Speaker 4: clock violation or a buck Harris end of the shot clock.

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02:00:19,600 --> 02:00:19,840
Speaker 3: Three.

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02:00:20,680 --> 02:00:22,880
Speaker 4: They were down five at one point with around fifty

2425
02:00:22,880 --> 02:00:25,280
Speaker 4: seconds left, and you think, okay, come get an easy

2426
02:00:25,360 --> 02:00:27,600
Speaker 4: quick bucket, go down and play defense, get a stop.

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02:00:27,960 --> 02:00:30,480
Speaker 4: They couldn't get an easy bucket. It's that's who they've

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02:00:30,520 --> 02:00:34,040
Speaker 4: been and that's the unfortunate side. It's not a one off.

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02:00:34,520 --> 02:00:37,880
Speaker 4: I'm done celebrating. If a team plays hard, you're supposed

2430
02:00:37,920 --> 02:00:40,160
Speaker 4: to play hard every year you're at Cincinnati. That's that's

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02:00:40,160 --> 02:00:44,240
Speaker 4: the prerequisite. Yes, that's where I'm at. I can't celebrate

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02:00:45,320 --> 02:00:48,200
Speaker 4: close losses anymore. I can't celebrate a team playing hard.

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02:00:48,360 --> 02:00:50,880
Speaker 3: It's about execution. It's about execution, and.

2434
02:00:50,880 --> 02:00:51,920
Speaker 4: Due's about a marquee win.

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02:00:52,400 --> 02:00:56,320
Speaker 3: It's about Yes, it's about execution and winning games that

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02:00:56,360 --> 02:01:00,200
Speaker 3: are there for the taking. And maybe the game was

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02:01:00,240 --> 02:01:02,440
Speaker 3: a lot closer than a lot of folks anticipated. That's

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02:01:02,480 --> 02:01:05,680
Speaker 3: certainly fair. I guess for me, like watching that game.

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02:01:06,720 --> 02:01:09,800
Speaker 3: You watch the Bearcats go through their offense in the

2440
02:01:09,840 --> 02:01:12,800
Speaker 3: half court, and there's a lot of just dribbling, and

2441
02:01:12,880 --> 02:01:15,720
Speaker 3: there's a lot of just whipping the ball around the perimeter,

2442
02:01:15,920 --> 02:01:19,120
Speaker 3: and not enough moves toward the basket, not enough guys

2443
02:01:19,160 --> 02:01:22,120
Speaker 3: cutting without the ball to be in a position to score.

2444
02:01:22,800 --> 02:01:24,600
Speaker 3: They take a lot of time off the clock and

2445
02:01:24,680 --> 02:01:27,840
Speaker 3: don't get anything good. You watch Houston, Yeah, they take

2446
02:01:27,840 --> 02:01:30,320
Speaker 3: a lot of time off the clock. What happens at

2447
02:01:30,360 --> 02:01:32,880
Speaker 3: the end of almost everything good looks, get a good look,

2448
02:01:32,960 --> 02:01:34,520
Speaker 3: and if the guy misses it. In the second half,

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02:01:34,560 --> 02:01:34,960
Speaker 3: it's you.

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Speaker 4: Know, it drove me offensively, Reba. When they call a play,

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02:01:37,400 --> 02:01:39,200
Speaker 4: I feel like it takes eight seconds to get in

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02:01:39,200 --> 02:01:41,320
Speaker 4: the play. Yes, it feels like they get set up

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02:01:41,320 --> 02:01:43,720
Speaker 4: for like six seconds. I'm like, let's go right, get

2454
02:01:43,720 --> 02:01:45,640
Speaker 4: to the play, and then it's like where they're positioned.

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02:01:46,280 --> 02:01:48,520
Speaker 4: There was like five times in the second half there

2456
02:01:48,560 --> 02:01:50,240
Speaker 4: was a good pass made to the quarter for a

2457
02:01:50,320 --> 02:01:52,320
Speaker 4: jumper and Buck Carrott caught it.

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02:01:52,520 --> 02:01:54,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, why is he there? Why is he the gout?

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02:01:54,200 --> 02:01:56,440
Speaker 4: He can't catch and shoot from there, and you have

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02:01:56,520 --> 02:01:59,320
Speaker 4: to build the roster around that. They're just deficient in

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02:01:59,360 --> 02:02:02,880
Speaker 4: a lot of areas. And yeah, they played hard, but

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Speaker 4: they should play hard every game.

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02:02:06,080 --> 02:02:12,560
Speaker 3: They don't execute. No, we we're done. I hate to

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Speaker 3: end the year on that kind of note, but well,

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02:02:15,800 --> 02:02:18,880
Speaker 3: we are only one way to go from here. Beat

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Speaker 3: West Virginia.

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Speaker 4: Beat West Virginia.

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Speaker 3: Tomorrow.

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Speaker 4: You can probably watch it at Twin Peaks.

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Speaker 3: If you weren't, you probably can. Maybe I will. We

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Speaker 3: have had a blast doing this show the last eighteen weeks,

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Speaker 3: both at west Chester and in Florence. The staff at

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Speaker 3: both locations is tremendous. Cannot recommend Twin Peaks enough. Back

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Speaker 3: in studio tomorrow. Thanks to Tarren Bland for producing this

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Speaker 3: show and Ken.

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Speaker 4: Are you wearing your shirt?

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Speaker 3: I might?

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Speaker 4: You wear your shirt tomorrow?

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Speaker 3: I might, all right? And thanks to Mike Mills and

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Speaker 3: Joe Streker for producing on site Mark Pope Show. The

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Speaker 3: Mark Pope Radio Show is next. Have a great night.

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