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Head coach Mike McDaniel 18 00:00:51,720 --> 00:00:53,400 Speaker 3: is going to finish the year for now and then 19 00:00:53,440 --> 00:00:54,040 Speaker 3: who knows. 20 00:00:54,600 --> 00:00:57,000 Speaker 5: Entry news Max Crosby will play for the Raiders Sunday 21 00:00:57,000 --> 00:00:59,160 Speaker 5: against the jag Star pass Rusher been out with a 22 00:00:59,200 --> 00:01:01,840 Speaker 5: back injury. Mac Jones will get the start for the Niners. 23 00:01:01,840 --> 00:01:04,440 Speaker 5: Brock Perty still hampered by his foot, and the Chiefs 24 00:01:04,440 --> 00:01:07,840 Speaker 5: have ruled Isaiah Pacheco and left tackle Josh Simmons out 25 00:01:07,840 --> 00:01:10,480 Speaker 5: for the game. It's Buffalo Seahawks commander Sunday Jade Daniel 26 00:01:10,520 --> 00:01:13,440 Speaker 5: is going to start. A quarterback Bobo Love Haynes all 27 00:01:13,480 --> 00:01:17,080 Speaker 5: out for the Hawks. Cooper Cup and Jaren Reid are questionable. 28 00:01:17,200 --> 00:01:23,200 Speaker 3: But Spoon Spoon say it like that, Spoon Spoon soon 29 00:01:24,040 --> 00:01:27,560 Speaker 3: all that once three two one soon, Devin Witherspoon good 30 00:01:27,560 --> 00:01:27,680 Speaker 3: to go. 31 00:01:28,160 --> 00:01:31,040 Speaker 5: Nebraska's given coach Matt Rule it to your extension, including 32 00:01:31,080 --> 00:01:33,440 Speaker 5: a fifteen million dollars buyout for this coming year. And 33 00:01:33,480 --> 00:01:37,240 Speaker 5: Demon Williams named the Davy O'Brien Award Class of twenty 34 00:01:37,280 --> 00:01:37,839 Speaker 5: twenty five. 35 00:01:37,920 --> 00:01:38,440 Speaker 6: World Series. 36 00:01:38,480 --> 00:01:41,480 Speaker 3: Game six tonight in Toronto, Blue Jays up three games 37 00:01:41,480 --> 00:01:45,080 Speaker 3: to two Yoshi Yamamoto versus Kevin Golzman as the Blue 38 00:01:45,160 --> 00:01:46,920 Speaker 3: Jays look for their third Balk. 39 00:01:46,760 --> 00:01:49,440 Speaker 6: Title in franchise history. Hu Millon joins right. 40 00:01:49,320 --> 00:01:52,560 Speaker 2: Now as part of our never ending coverage for the 41 00:01:52,640 --> 00:01:56,720 Speaker 2: twelfth Man in the NFL. 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H 50 00:02:27,160 --> 00:02:29,720 Speaker 3: I gotta start off though, by by asking you man, 51 00:02:29,840 --> 00:02:34,360 Speaker 3: because we thought for sure after the Huskies beat Illinois 52 00:02:34,360 --> 00:02:36,000 Speaker 3: that we would see them in the top twenty five, 53 00:02:36,120 --> 00:02:38,720 Speaker 3: and they're not. Yah top twenty five. And you've heard 54 00:02:38,800 --> 00:02:42,000 Speaker 3: us railing on the AP pole. Dick is finally on 55 00:02:42,040 --> 00:02:42,760 Speaker 3: the bus with me. 56 00:02:43,600 --> 00:02:43,840 Speaker 6: Yeah. 57 00:02:44,000 --> 00:02:47,720 Speaker 3: The just disgusting nature of the AP pole. It's not 58 00:02:48,040 --> 00:02:50,360 Speaker 3: how you perform, it's really where you start the year 59 00:02:50,440 --> 00:02:53,480 Speaker 3: when the preseason polls come out. I don't like it. 60 00:02:53,520 --> 00:02:56,440 Speaker 3: I think it's a dinosaur. The CFP is where it's at. 61 00:02:56,760 --> 00:02:59,440 Speaker 3: I'm worried that the College Football Playoff Committee people are 62 00:02:59,480 --> 00:03:01,000 Speaker 3: influenced by the AP pole. 63 00:03:01,400 --> 00:03:03,560 Speaker 4: I think it's time for the AP pole to die. 64 00:03:03,680 --> 00:03:07,400 Speaker 4: What do you think, Well, let's kind of consider that proposition. 65 00:03:07,480 --> 00:03:09,680 Speaker 4: First of all, what is the AP. It's almost one 66 00:03:09,720 --> 00:03:13,040 Speaker 4: hundred and eighty years old. It's a collective of members 67 00:03:13,080 --> 00:03:15,920 Speaker 4: that are trying to scale the cost of producing the content, 68 00:03:15,960 --> 00:03:19,959 Speaker 4: the reporting, the photos, the video. Right. But as we've 69 00:03:19,960 --> 00:03:25,040 Speaker 4: seen newspapers collapse, you know where they once had they 70 00:03:25,120 --> 00:03:27,560 Speaker 4: needed because they didn't have the resources in the reach 71 00:03:27,639 --> 00:03:31,200 Speaker 4: to use the AP. Now you've got digital explosion, you 72 00:03:31,280 --> 00:03:36,680 Speaker 4: got social media. The direct feeds have replaced the wire feeds, right, 73 00:03:36,760 --> 00:03:39,560 Speaker 4: so we know that's happened. So now even like the 74 00:03:39,600 --> 00:03:43,040 Speaker 4: Gannett and other news services have dropped the AP all together. 75 00:03:43,160 --> 00:03:46,520 Speaker 4: So the AP influence in a global sense, and this 76 00:03:46,600 --> 00:03:50,840 Speaker 4: is over one hundred countries, is diminishing. But here at home, 77 00:03:51,400 --> 00:03:54,400 Speaker 4: the Apeak College Poll has been around since nineteen thirty six. 78 00:03:54,880 --> 00:03:58,680 Speaker 4: It's the oldest ranking, predates the Coaches ranking. It has 79 00:03:58,840 --> 00:04:02,760 Speaker 4: credibility nationwide. Maybe you don't think it does, but but 80 00:04:02,880 --> 00:04:05,560 Speaker 4: it has enough. It costs nothing to produce to get 81 00:04:06,080 --> 00:04:08,800 Speaker 4: the poll, and and they get huge traffic, so it 82 00:04:08,880 --> 00:04:12,360 Speaker 4: keeps the AP relevant. I don't know what entity is 83 00:04:12,400 --> 00:04:15,160 Speaker 4: gonna decide, Well, the AP is just, uh, you know, 84 00:04:15,240 --> 00:04:19,039 Speaker 4: gonna go away. But I don't know. My gut tells 85 00:04:19,040 --> 00:04:22,160 Speaker 4: me the AP they are gonna fold on themselves. There 86 00:04:22,160 --> 00:04:25,000 Speaker 4: would be no reason to do so, right, No, for sure. 87 00:04:25,080 --> 00:04:27,039 Speaker 6: But but that's really not relevant though. 88 00:04:27,240 --> 00:04:28,440 Speaker 4: I mean, why is it relevant? 89 00:04:29,160 --> 00:04:32,880 Speaker 3: What I want, what I'm asking you is for your 90 00:04:32,960 --> 00:04:37,840 Speaker 3: reaction to the impact, whether positive or negative, on college 91 00:04:37,880 --> 00:04:41,039 Speaker 3: football that the AP pole provides. And I just got 92 00:04:41,080 --> 00:04:43,520 Speaker 3: done telling you that I think the AP pole might 93 00:04:43,640 --> 00:04:47,679 Speaker 3: be a negative, a net negative for college football, especially 94 00:04:47,680 --> 00:04:50,560 Speaker 3: if it's influencing the voters of the of the CFP. 95 00:04:50,920 --> 00:04:53,760 Speaker 3: I totally agree with everything you're saying. They're they're they're 96 00:04:53,800 --> 00:04:56,520 Speaker 3: a third party entity. They're not going anywhere. Nobody can 97 00:04:56,520 --> 00:04:58,599 Speaker 3: tell them what to do. They might even add twenty 98 00:04:58,600 --> 00:05:00,640 Speaker 3: five more teams to their pole for all we know. 99 00:05:00,839 --> 00:05:03,000 Speaker 3: And I do understand that people find it to be 100 00:05:03,080 --> 00:05:05,880 Speaker 3: credible and find it to be relevant. I would not 101 00:05:06,160 --> 00:05:09,960 Speaker 3: disagree with anything you just said. The influence though, of 102 00:05:10,080 --> 00:05:13,920 Speaker 3: the AP pole. Does it still serve the proper purpose 103 00:05:13,960 --> 00:05:14,679 Speaker 3: in your opinion? 104 00:05:14,920 --> 00:05:17,279 Speaker 4: Yeah? Well, the last thing that you said before I 105 00:05:17,320 --> 00:05:19,800 Speaker 4: started talking is you said it's time for the AP. 106 00:05:20,120 --> 00:05:22,240 Speaker 6: Is it time for the AP poll to go away? 107 00:05:22,600 --> 00:05:25,600 Speaker 4: So I was responding to that, but but yeah, look, 108 00:05:25,640 --> 00:05:29,240 Speaker 4: I think the influence I think with the emergence of 109 00:05:29,279 --> 00:05:33,400 Speaker 4: the college football playoff the selection committee absolutely, Dave here, 110 00:05:33,760 --> 00:05:36,440 Speaker 4: I'm totally going to dance with you on that where 111 00:05:36,600 --> 00:05:40,599 Speaker 4: I mean, you're talking to a guy that they want 112 00:05:40,640 --> 00:05:44,800 Speaker 4: to know the power of the AP Pole Andrews, you're listening, right, yes, sir, 113 00:05:44,960 --> 00:05:47,800 Speaker 4: the husk We go into the bowl weekend, the New 114 00:05:47,880 --> 00:05:52,040 Speaker 4: Year's Bowl weekend, and you know, we wait, we win, 115 00:05:52,160 --> 00:05:55,480 Speaker 4: and then we wait to hear these fat guys vote 116 00:05:55,640 --> 00:05:58,240 Speaker 4: what they voted. And it was the closest vote in 117 00:05:58,240 --> 00:06:01,120 Speaker 4: the history of the AP, eleven to six to eleven forty. 118 00:06:01,560 --> 00:06:04,080 Speaker 4: I still have the numbers seared in my memory, and 119 00:06:04,200 --> 00:06:07,440 Speaker 4: that's the margin and the mechanism and how we lost 120 00:06:07,680 --> 00:06:11,240 Speaker 4: the national title. So that's that's something that, uh, you know, 121 00:06:11,520 --> 00:06:13,880 Speaker 4: you just don't get over that. Look I'm sixty two, 122 00:06:13,880 --> 00:06:17,120 Speaker 4: I'm still not over it. So the AP's influence, yeah, 123 00:06:17,160 --> 00:06:21,120 Speaker 4: you know, it's a fraction of what it was then, right, Uh, certainly, 124 00:06:21,200 --> 00:06:26,640 Speaker 4: and and and and and certainly they've improved the entire Yeah, look, 125 00:06:26,800 --> 00:06:29,720 Speaker 4: they've they've they've advanced miles and I'm talking about just 126 00:06:29,760 --> 00:06:32,800 Speaker 4: college football as an enterprise. Uh. The fact that they 127 00:06:33,200 --> 00:06:36,680 Speaker 4: have distanced themselves from the influence of the AP is 128 00:06:36,680 --> 00:06:39,680 Speaker 4: a good thing. But the AP itself. You know, again, 129 00:06:39,720 --> 00:06:42,039 Speaker 4: we're talking about different aspects. They're not going away. That 130 00:06:42,080 --> 00:06:44,440 Speaker 4: poll isn't going away. And if you're concerned about it 131 00:06:44,600 --> 00:06:48,919 Speaker 4: influencing the College Football Committee and the Playoff Committee, I 132 00:06:48,920 --> 00:06:50,680 Speaker 4: think you're just gonna have to live with that concern. 133 00:06:50,800 --> 00:06:51,799 Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, probably. 134 00:06:52,040 --> 00:06:54,120 Speaker 5: Hugh All, we're on the top of talking about of 135 00:06:54,160 --> 00:06:56,360 Speaker 5: college football. If I can spit it out, I'd love 136 00:06:56,360 --> 00:06:58,760 Speaker 5: to get your take on what happened down in the Louisiana. 137 00:06:58,880 --> 00:07:02,120 Speaker 5: You have got a gun coming out in a press 138 00:07:02,160 --> 00:07:06,240 Speaker 5: conference and saying that Scott Woodward will not be the 139 00:07:06,279 --> 00:07:08,800 Speaker 5: man that hires the next football coach at LSU, and 140 00:07:08,880 --> 00:07:11,600 Speaker 5: less than twenty four hours later, Scott Woodward is fired. 141 00:07:11,640 --> 00:07:15,800 Speaker 5: You're just your take on politics vis a v. The 142 00:07:15,920 --> 00:07:19,760 Speaker 5: athletic department at a university in a marriage, it seems right. 143 00:07:19,920 --> 00:07:22,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, well, I think what they say is true. I 144 00:07:22,400 --> 00:07:26,120 Speaker 4: got a kid playing in the SEC. He is a 145 00:07:26,160 --> 00:07:28,440 Speaker 4: Florida Gator, and and I think everything they say it 146 00:07:28,480 --> 00:07:30,920 Speaker 4: just means more down there. It just means more. I 147 00:07:30,960 --> 00:07:34,440 Speaker 4: absolutely believe that. And look, you could you could say 148 00:07:34,480 --> 00:07:37,840 Speaker 4: that there is a the reach of a governor. Well, 149 00:07:37,840 --> 00:07:44,720 Speaker 4: it's a tax player, a taxpayer institution, LSU, right of 150 00:07:44,760 --> 00:07:48,000 Speaker 4: state school and and and they're gonna have to pay. 151 00:07:48,080 --> 00:07:51,840 Speaker 4: They're on the hook for what fifty something million uh 152 00:07:51,880 --> 00:07:56,680 Speaker 4: to Kelly. So you could say that falls under his purview. 153 00:07:57,200 --> 00:07:59,920 Speaker 4: That's a pretty that's a pretty big stretch by most 154 00:08:00,040 --> 00:08:02,160 Speaker 4: governor standards. All I have to do is say, well, 155 00:08:02,400 --> 00:08:04,960 Speaker 4: if that's okay, and that's normal, when have we ever 156 00:08:04,960 --> 00:08:08,880 Speaker 4: seen it before? Uh? And and to my knowledge, you know, 157 00:08:09,120 --> 00:08:11,080 Speaker 4: I don't want to say never, because then you back 158 00:08:11,120 --> 00:08:13,440 Speaker 4: yourself in a corner. But I would say that's almost 159 00:08:13,560 --> 00:08:17,720 Speaker 4: never that you would see a governor influencing in that nature. 160 00:08:18,000 --> 00:08:20,720 Speaker 4: The kind of the disgusted tone that he that he 161 00:08:20,800 --> 00:08:23,440 Speaker 4: said said it with, I mean he made it real clear. 162 00:08:26,200 --> 00:08:28,680 Speaker 4: Mm hmmmm hm, he did make it real clear. 163 00:08:28,760 --> 00:08:33,240 Speaker 3: Hang on, that's a great point he's making totally yeah 164 00:08:33,880 --> 00:08:39,520 Speaker 3: mm hmm, Yeah, yeah, I agree, mm hmm yep. 165 00:08:40,080 --> 00:08:43,240 Speaker 4: Well, m I don't know about that. 166 00:08:43,280 --> 00:08:44,960 Speaker 6: What happened? Is he there now? 167 00:08:45,080 --> 00:08:45,280 Speaker 4: Yet? 168 00:08:45,360 --> 00:08:46,800 Speaker 6: The whole thing just dropped. 169 00:08:46,559 --> 00:08:47,520 Speaker 1: Maybe he can hear us. 170 00:08:47,520 --> 00:08:49,360 Speaker 3: You know what, it is possible, by the way, you 171 00:08:49,440 --> 00:08:53,600 Speaker 3: never know with us. Man, it's this atmospheric river thing 172 00:08:53,640 --> 00:08:56,320 Speaker 3: of a jig they came through here that knocked everybody out. Well, 173 00:08:56,440 --> 00:08:58,640 Speaker 3: just uh Andrews, bring him down, get him back on 174 00:08:58,760 --> 00:09:00,559 Speaker 3: the on the horn if you can. But yeah, I 175 00:09:00,600 --> 00:09:06,000 Speaker 3: mean we've probably seen Dick. I'm certain certain behind the scenes, 176 00:09:06,040 --> 00:09:12,600 Speaker 3: we've seen politicians play a role in sports, college sports arenas, stadiums, obviously, 177 00:09:12,679 --> 00:09:13,360 Speaker 3: things like that. 178 00:09:13,679 --> 00:09:15,800 Speaker 6: I think the point you're trying to make is that to. 179 00:09:15,760 --> 00:09:19,280 Speaker 3: See it in public, like that public facing where a 180 00:09:19,360 --> 00:09:22,800 Speaker 3: guy literally comes out and grabs a microphone and tells 181 00:09:22,840 --> 00:09:26,520 Speaker 3: the entire state that boy will not be responsible for 182 00:09:26,559 --> 00:09:27,560 Speaker 3: picking our next coach. 183 00:09:27,600 --> 00:09:28,720 Speaker 6: I've never seen that before him. 184 00:09:28,800 --> 00:09:30,960 Speaker 5: No, And I think it just because you've got a 185 00:09:31,000 --> 00:09:33,880 Speaker 5: governor in a state where he knows if he speaks 186 00:09:33,960 --> 00:09:37,679 Speaker 5: up on behalf of LSU, a vast majority of the 187 00:09:37,760 --> 00:09:40,199 Speaker 5: people in that state are going to be with him, right, 188 00:09:40,600 --> 00:09:42,400 Speaker 5: and those are the votes he's trying to get erse 189 00:09:42,440 --> 00:09:44,200 Speaker 5: if you do that here. First of all, we're not 190 00:09:44,240 --> 00:09:46,360 Speaker 5: as passionate about the Huskies and Cougar's as they are 191 00:09:46,360 --> 00:09:49,120 Speaker 5: down at LSU. And two were way more divided state 192 00:09:49,120 --> 00:09:53,000 Speaker 5: than Louisiana is because they don't have two major universities 193 00:09:53,000 --> 00:09:53,320 Speaker 5: down there. 194 00:09:53,360 --> 00:09:53,440 Speaker 4: Ye. 195 00:09:53,559 --> 00:09:55,199 Speaker 6: Well, and that's the thing is that the what's the 196 00:09:55,280 --> 00:09:55,760 Speaker 6: name of the guy? 197 00:09:55,800 --> 00:09:58,679 Speaker 3: They the governor of Louisiana, whatever his name is, he 198 00:09:58,760 --> 00:10:02,160 Speaker 3: absolutely is playing to his crowd, because I guarantee you 199 00:10:02,240 --> 00:10:07,160 Speaker 3: that there are millions of lsu fans in Louisiana landry 200 00:10:07,200 --> 00:10:10,120 Speaker 3: that are sick of Scott Woodward. And when the governor 201 00:10:10,160 --> 00:10:12,840 Speaker 3: comes out and craps on the guy, they're like, oh yeah, 202 00:10:13,000 --> 00:10:17,440 Speaker 3: man absence in Ghostbusters. Man Lannie, you will have saved 203 00:10:17,440 --> 00:10:20,520 Speaker 3: the lives of millions of registered voters. 204 00:10:20,640 --> 00:10:23,760 Speaker 5: And when they go it's smart, when they go to 205 00:10:23,800 --> 00:10:27,120 Speaker 5: the smalls, most of them will remember that statement more 206 00:10:27,160 --> 00:10:28,280 Speaker 5: than anything else. 207 00:10:28,360 --> 00:10:31,400 Speaker 3: Guarantee the guy had an advisor saying, you know what 208 00:10:31,440 --> 00:10:33,480 Speaker 3: you should do. You should come out and rip Scott 209 00:10:33,480 --> 00:10:35,880 Speaker 3: Woodward a new one. That's what you should do, and 210 00:10:35,920 --> 00:10:37,600 Speaker 3: you're gonna get a lot of people in your corner. 211 00:10:37,800 --> 00:10:38,480 Speaker 6: Very smart, all right. 212 00:10:38,600 --> 00:10:41,120 Speaker 3: Hugh Mellan rejoins us on the on the phone now 213 00:10:41,160 --> 00:10:43,839 Speaker 3: because the the internet went down at his at his place, 214 00:10:43,880 --> 00:10:45,120 Speaker 3: so he's back with us here. 215 00:10:45,160 --> 00:10:46,760 Speaker 6: We do we have you. 216 00:10:46,880 --> 00:10:48,080 Speaker 4: Oh, yeah, I'm here. What's happening? 217 00:10:49,640 --> 00:10:52,120 Speaker 3: Well, I made some great points there. Nobody heard him, 218 00:10:52,160 --> 00:10:54,720 Speaker 3: but they were phenomenal. But yeah, man, I mean, just, 219 00:10:55,040 --> 00:10:57,600 Speaker 3: you know, unbelievable situation down there for a guy that 220 00:10:57,600 --> 00:11:01,320 Speaker 3: we obviously know very well from his time at WA Washington. So, uh, 221 00:11:01,600 --> 00:11:04,839 Speaker 3: why don't we get to the NFL Seahawks and Commanders 222 00:11:04,880 --> 00:11:07,760 Speaker 3: on Sunday and night before we talk about Jayden Daniels 223 00:11:07,760 --> 00:11:09,480 Speaker 3: and some of the injuries, the matchups all that. 224 00:11:09,760 --> 00:11:09,880 Speaker 5: You know. 225 00:11:09,960 --> 00:11:11,960 Speaker 3: Kevin Harlan was on with us on Wednesday, and I 226 00:11:12,040 --> 00:11:14,040 Speaker 3: just made a kind of passing comment to him that, 227 00:11:14,280 --> 00:11:16,720 Speaker 3: you know, some folks might want to make the argument 228 00:11:16,720 --> 00:11:19,560 Speaker 3: that Bobby Wagner is the greatest middle linebacker of all time. 229 00:11:19,600 --> 00:11:22,199 Speaker 3: And then my my buddy Lee Sterling sends me a tax. 230 00:11:22,280 --> 00:11:24,319 Speaker 3: Are you never heard of ray nick Sture or Dick 231 00:11:24,360 --> 00:11:26,000 Speaker 3: Buckers or Greg Lewis or. 232 00:11:25,920 --> 00:11:28,080 Speaker 6: Greg Lewis ray Lewis, of course reg Lewis. 233 00:11:28,280 --> 00:11:31,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, well, yeah, and I probably would say ray Lewis 234 00:11:31,120 --> 00:11:32,760 Speaker 3: honestly if you pinned me down, Hugh. 235 00:11:32,920 --> 00:11:34,520 Speaker 6: But I went and looked it up. 236 00:11:34,640 --> 00:11:39,560 Speaker 3: Combined first team and second team All Pro selections, so 237 00:11:39,880 --> 00:11:44,400 Speaker 3: combined on both teams first and second team. Okay, Dick, 238 00:11:44,559 --> 00:11:48,640 Speaker 3: but kiss and. 239 00:11:47,240 --> 00:11:48,640 Speaker 6: And I just lost it here. 240 00:11:48,679 --> 00:11:52,400 Speaker 3: Here it is Dick Buckets eight times, Luke Keigley seven times, 241 00:11:52,440 --> 00:11:56,000 Speaker 3: Mike Singletary eight times, Ray Lewis ten times, Bobby Wagner 242 00:11:56,160 --> 00:12:00,880 Speaker 3: eleven times combined in his career, first and second team 243 00:12:00,960 --> 00:12:03,640 Speaker 3: All Pro. So, if somebody wants to make the case 244 00:12:03,720 --> 00:12:06,880 Speaker 3: you on Sunday that we're watching the greatest middle linebacker 245 00:12:06,880 --> 00:12:08,920 Speaker 3: of all time, is that an argument that you are 246 00:12:08,920 --> 00:12:09,840 Speaker 3: willing to listen to. 247 00:12:11,400 --> 00:12:14,000 Speaker 4: Well, for me, when I evaluate an argument like that, 248 00:12:14,280 --> 00:12:16,400 Speaker 4: it's a little bit of a Venn diagram. I think 249 00:12:16,400 --> 00:12:20,640 Speaker 4: that there's there's the subjective what your eyeballs tell you, 250 00:12:21,120 --> 00:12:25,840 Speaker 4: and then there's a just a numbers based argument, and 251 00:12:25,840 --> 00:12:27,800 Speaker 4: and then you know, somewhere in the middle is kind 252 00:12:27,800 --> 00:12:31,480 Speaker 4: of a combination. And I would say that the argument 253 00:12:31,840 --> 00:12:35,520 Speaker 4: for him being the best is far more in the 254 00:12:35,679 --> 00:12:38,400 Speaker 4: numbers based exactly what you said, because I think most 255 00:12:38,800 --> 00:12:42,439 Speaker 4: my sense is that most experts would say, Bobby Wagner, 256 00:12:42,760 --> 00:12:47,240 Speaker 4: he's not gonna land with you know, Dick Buckiss, Ray Nitsky, 257 00:12:47,480 --> 00:12:50,199 Speaker 4: you know, ray Lewis and what have you. Even though 258 00:12:50,360 --> 00:12:54,600 Speaker 4: those numbers you cite like like, if I had to 259 00:12:54,600 --> 00:12:59,600 Speaker 4: to defend that proposition and advocate for that, I would 260 00:12:59,640 --> 00:13:02,640 Speaker 4: cite the exact numbers, and I would say, and moreover, 261 00:13:03,040 --> 00:13:05,600 Speaker 4: he was the middle linebacker of the Legion of Boom. 262 00:13:05,600 --> 00:13:07,880 Speaker 4: What is the legion of Boom? The team that you 263 00:13:07,920 --> 00:13:10,600 Speaker 4: had a Jeopardy guy? Right? Is what is the team 264 00:13:10,920 --> 00:13:14,400 Speaker 4: the only team in history that had four straight years 265 00:13:14,720 --> 00:13:18,280 Speaker 4: leading the NFL fewest points allowed? Answer? Who are the 266 00:13:18,320 --> 00:13:23,120 Speaker 4: Seattle Seahawks? And so I think you would just lay 267 00:13:23,120 --> 00:13:26,480 Speaker 4: it out like that, you know, to accept that, you'd 268 00:13:26,480 --> 00:13:29,280 Speaker 4: have to put some real stock into those, you know, 269 00:13:29,320 --> 00:13:32,680 Speaker 4: back to the AP, right, Who's the AP? But I 270 00:13:32,679 --> 00:13:36,240 Speaker 4: would say this a thought on Bobby Wagner in twenty thirteen, 271 00:13:36,320 --> 00:13:42,200 Speaker 4: fourteen combined, those are obviously the Super Bowl years. The 272 00:13:42,320 --> 00:13:45,200 Speaker 4: NFL has a stack called yard per tackle, and it's 273 00:13:45,240 --> 00:13:47,760 Speaker 4: defined as the following quote. I'm gonna read word for 274 00:13:47,800 --> 00:13:52,520 Speaker 4: word average offensive yards gain when the player made the tackle. 275 00:13:53,679 --> 00:13:56,360 Speaker 4: Bobby Wagner in those two Super Bowl years, those four 276 00:13:56,400 --> 00:13:59,720 Speaker 4: point three average got me. So when he when he tankled, 277 00:14:00,040 --> 00:14:02,520 Speaker 4: tackled Frank Gore and everybody else, the average was four 278 00:14:02,559 --> 00:14:07,640 Speaker 4: point three. His last four years, the average was six 279 00:14:07,720 --> 00:14:10,199 Speaker 4: point three and one year, if I was going to 280 00:14:10,320 --> 00:14:13,440 Speaker 4: argue against Bobby Wagner, I'd say, look, some of those 281 00:14:13,480 --> 00:14:16,520 Speaker 4: all first team All pros, you kind of got soft. 282 00:14:16,640 --> 00:14:19,360 Speaker 4: You were you were catching blocks, not going up and 283 00:14:19,400 --> 00:14:24,120 Speaker 4: blowing out of blocks. And for example, twenty nineteen you 284 00:14:24,160 --> 00:14:26,640 Speaker 4: had one hundred and fifty nine tackles, Bobby, that led 285 00:14:26,640 --> 00:14:31,360 Speaker 4: the NFL. That's going to get everybody's attention. But yards 286 00:14:31,440 --> 00:14:35,400 Speaker 4: gained was six point nine. So when you were when 287 00:14:35,440 --> 00:14:38,080 Speaker 4: you were at your best, there's four point three, but 288 00:14:38,200 --> 00:14:40,560 Speaker 4: in that year you were six point nine. Imagine a 289 00:14:40,640 --> 00:14:44,080 Speaker 4: running back who had that big of a discrepancy, right, So, no, 290 00:14:44,320 --> 00:14:46,680 Speaker 4: there's other things, you know, how how are people you know, 291 00:14:46,680 --> 00:14:48,880 Speaker 4: what's the scheme? How are people playing in front of you? 292 00:14:49,120 --> 00:14:51,960 Speaker 4: It's not the only way to evaluate a guy. But 293 00:14:52,040 --> 00:14:54,640 Speaker 4: I do think he was falling off, and while he 294 00:14:54,720 --> 00:14:58,280 Speaker 4: was still making a lot of tackles and making first 295 00:14:58,320 --> 00:15:00,960 Speaker 4: team All Pros, I don't think he he was the 296 00:15:01,000 --> 00:15:03,600 Speaker 4: player that he had been. In fact, in that number. 297 00:15:03,640 --> 00:15:06,080 Speaker 4: Over the last two years as a commander, he's back 298 00:15:06,120 --> 00:15:09,360 Speaker 4: to four point eight, so and he's actually improved in 299 00:15:09,360 --> 00:15:13,400 Speaker 4: that regard. But there's you know, there's always a retort 300 00:15:13,440 --> 00:15:14,720 Speaker 4: when you get an argument like that. 301 00:15:14,800 --> 00:15:16,960 Speaker 5: But to your point, we had Greg Gosel on with 302 00:15:17,000 --> 00:15:20,160 Speaker 5: Ian today and he said, quote, Bobby is certainly not 303 00:15:20,360 --> 00:15:21,400 Speaker 5: an impact player. 304 00:15:21,440 --> 00:15:25,240 Speaker 6: Now he's talking about the twenty twenty five aesoo years old. Yes, 305 00:15:25,320 --> 00:15:27,640 Speaker 6: but he's supposed to not be an impact player. 306 00:15:28,040 --> 00:15:30,640 Speaker 5: But my question for you, Hugh is we're playing the 307 00:15:30,640 --> 00:15:34,040 Speaker 5: twenty twenty five Bobby Wagner right on Monday. So how 308 00:15:34,080 --> 00:15:37,280 Speaker 5: do you attack the twenty twenty five version of Bobby Wagner. 309 00:15:39,240 --> 00:15:41,920 Speaker 4: Well, you depend on what coverage they play. I mean, 310 00:15:41,960 --> 00:15:45,120 Speaker 4: there's some man coverages you'd love to get guys messed up. 311 00:15:45,480 --> 00:15:48,720 Speaker 4: I think he's changed the direction. His coverage skills really dropped. 312 00:15:48,720 --> 00:15:53,440 Speaker 4: There's a coverage called Cover four, a fourty three under zone, 313 00:15:53,720 --> 00:15:57,600 Speaker 4: and because there's only three guys under, you can't spot drop. 314 00:15:57,680 --> 00:16:00,440 Speaker 4: You have to do what's called play man concert within 315 00:16:00,480 --> 00:16:03,080 Speaker 4: his own So Bobby Wagner to get a little XI 316 00:16:03,200 --> 00:16:06,120 Speaker 4: and oe. He has the number three guy counting outside 317 00:16:06,160 --> 00:16:09,280 Speaker 4: in and so if you can put uh, you know, 318 00:16:09,640 --> 00:16:13,840 Speaker 4: whether it's Jackson Smith and jigbihell even it doesn't matter 319 00:16:13,880 --> 00:16:17,440 Speaker 4: who you know, Cooper Cup whatever, if you can somehow 320 00:16:17,560 --> 00:16:22,560 Speaker 4: get the slot receiver in a three receiver set matched 321 00:16:22,600 --> 00:16:24,760 Speaker 4: up on the linebacker. You're gonna you're gonna wear him 322 00:16:24,760 --> 00:16:27,040 Speaker 4: out that way, you know, you know, make him run. 323 00:16:27,080 --> 00:16:30,600 Speaker 4: He was once a beautiful sideline the sideline runner. He 324 00:16:30,600 --> 00:16:33,240 Speaker 4: doesn't have that speed right now, so you know, the 325 00:16:33,280 --> 00:16:36,080 Speaker 4: pinning polls and the tosses. I think he's lost the steps. 326 00:16:36,120 --> 00:16:38,760 Speaker 4: So there's some ways to take advantage of of the 327 00:16:38,800 --> 00:16:40,200 Speaker 4: athlete that has diminished. 328 00:16:40,280 --> 00:16:41,840 Speaker 6: Yeah, well, Humillin's with us. 329 00:16:42,240 --> 00:16:45,240 Speaker 3: He is an athlete and his athleticism has not diminished 330 00:16:45,280 --> 00:16:45,760 Speaker 3: at all. 331 00:16:46,240 --> 00:16:49,240 Speaker 6: Uh here, let's let's do this a bit. 332 00:16:49,680 --> 00:16:52,560 Speaker 3: Let's come back next segment and kind of dive into 333 00:16:52,560 --> 00:16:54,800 Speaker 3: this game with the commanders on Sunday. I want to 334 00:16:54,800 --> 00:16:57,760 Speaker 3: get into the run game for the Seahawks and Jackson 335 00:16:57,800 --> 00:17:00,560 Speaker 3: Smith and Jigba. We've been talking to Homegrenna this so 336 00:17:00,600 --> 00:17:02,280 Speaker 3: you know for the last month or sommer. And at 337 00:17:02,280 --> 00:17:05,560 Speaker 3: what point do defenses start to take away number eleven? 338 00:17:05,600 --> 00:17:08,080 Speaker 3: At what point do they force somebody else to step 339 00:17:08,160 --> 00:17:10,359 Speaker 3: up and catch the football. So we'll get to that 340 00:17:10,520 --> 00:17:20,000 Speaker 3: more than Hugh next on ninety three three KJRFM. 341 00:17:16,240 --> 00:17:18,480 Speaker 1: This is Duke of Duke Seafood and this hour is 342 00:17:18,480 --> 00:17:20,800 Speaker 1: brought to you by duke Seafood, Why don't you make 343 00:17:20,800 --> 00:17:23,639 Speaker 1: it a Duke's night tonight. Reserve your table today at 344 00:17:23,680 --> 00:17:27,600 Speaker 1: dukesefood dot com. Now back to Softy and Dick on 345 00:17:27,680 --> 00:17:31,080 Speaker 1: Sports Radio ninety three point three kjr FM. 346 00:17:31,400 --> 00:17:35,160 Speaker 2: Now back to football Frondage sponsored by Tito's hand Made 347 00:17:35,240 --> 00:17:38,680 Speaker 2: Vodka on your Home for the NFL Sports. 348 00:17:38,400 --> 00:17:43,040 Speaker 6: Radio ninety three point three jr FL. All right here, 349 00:17:43,080 --> 00:17:44,680 Speaker 6: Mellan rejoins us, Hugh. 350 00:17:44,760 --> 00:17:47,840 Speaker 3: I'm looking at Jackson Smith and Jigma and decided to 351 00:17:47,920 --> 00:17:50,639 Speaker 3: just look at a couple of numbers of percentage of 352 00:17:50,840 --> 00:17:54,960 Speaker 3: pass plays that one wide receiver is responsible for in 353 00:17:55,000 --> 00:17:58,200 Speaker 3: a number of offenses around the NFLS That makes sense to you? Yeah, 354 00:17:58,240 --> 00:18:01,280 Speaker 3: So I didn't do total plays total offense, just the 355 00:18:01,320 --> 00:18:05,600 Speaker 3: pass plays. Jamar Chase thirty four point six of passes 356 00:18:05,760 --> 00:18:09,360 Speaker 3: in Cincinnati go to him, Chris Olave twenty nine percent, 357 00:18:09,520 --> 00:18:13,880 Speaker 3: McCaffrey twenty four point seven, I'm Keenan Allen twenty three, 358 00:18:14,040 --> 00:18:18,760 Speaker 3: Lad McConkie twenty three, Puka twenty six point seven, JSN 359 00:18:19,080 --> 00:18:22,879 Speaker 3: thirty five point seven percent of all passes go to 360 00:18:22,960 --> 00:18:24,480 Speaker 3: Jackson Smith, JIGBA. 361 00:18:24,640 --> 00:18:26,640 Speaker 6: Is that too much and is that sustainable? 362 00:18:27,400 --> 00:18:31,199 Speaker 4: I think it's too much sustainable. I just think you 363 00:18:31,280 --> 00:18:34,679 Speaker 4: want to maximize your chance to UH to deal with 364 00:18:34,720 --> 00:18:37,760 Speaker 4: an injury or a scheme that takes him out of it. 365 00:18:37,800 --> 00:18:42,720 Speaker 4: I mean, he's got fifty targets and the next closest 366 00:18:42,800 --> 00:18:49,520 Speaker 4: guy is twenty three with or excuse me, thirty three, So 367 00:18:49,640 --> 00:18:53,920 Speaker 4: the percentage excuse me, seventy targets, fifty receptions, seventy targets. 368 00:18:54,240 --> 00:18:56,520 Speaker 4: The next closest guys Cooper Cup at thirty three, so 369 00:18:56,560 --> 00:19:02,399 Speaker 4: that's forty seven. Cup has forty seven percent of Jackson, 370 00:19:02,400 --> 00:19:06,200 Speaker 4: Smith and Jig, but the other division leaders are at 371 00:19:06,440 --> 00:19:10,920 Speaker 4: eighty one percent. The last three season Super Bowl winners 372 00:19:10,920 --> 00:19:14,960 Speaker 4: a little over eighty percent, so nobody's under fifty percent 373 00:19:15,040 --> 00:19:18,120 Speaker 4: other than the Seahawks. So yeah, I think as great 374 00:19:18,160 --> 00:19:22,840 Speaker 4: as the season is, I think they need to they 375 00:19:22,840 --> 00:19:24,760 Speaker 4: need to expand the other targets. Well. 376 00:19:24,800 --> 00:19:27,200 Speaker 5: To the defense here, we were really excited at the 377 00:19:27,240 --> 00:19:28,679 Speaker 5: beginning of the year because we were like, Wow, we're 378 00:19:28,720 --> 00:19:31,520 Speaker 5: gonna have Spoon in there alongside Nicky man worry, and 379 00:19:31,560 --> 00:19:34,600 Speaker 5: that's happened for what like five plays so far this season. 380 00:19:34,640 --> 00:19:36,840 Speaker 5: But it looks like we're gonna get it from play 381 00:19:36,920 --> 00:19:39,160 Speaker 5: number one of this game on Sunday night. How will 382 00:19:39,200 --> 00:19:41,800 Speaker 5: we see a man worriy use? Do you think now 383 00:19:41,840 --> 00:19:44,159 Speaker 5: with Spoon back on the field, Well, I think that 384 00:19:44,280 --> 00:19:46,600 Speaker 5: you still keep nick Emmin Worry as your nickel Sam. 385 00:19:47,040 --> 00:19:49,760 Speaker 5: He's just what's called an overhang defender in the slot. 386 00:19:50,520 --> 00:19:52,600 Speaker 5: I don't think he's a back half guy. He's been 387 00:19:52,640 --> 00:19:55,720 Speaker 5: practicing near the line of scrimmage. I looked at his 388 00:19:55,840 --> 00:19:59,240 Speaker 5: tape extensively at South Carolina. I think he's an overhang 389 00:19:59,280 --> 00:20:04,360 Speaker 5: defender as I describe playing a linebacker. Spoon last year 390 00:20:04,480 --> 00:20:09,240 Speaker 5: held that position sixty four percent of the downs for 391 00:20:09,320 --> 00:20:12,000 Speaker 5: the Seahawks at Illinois, he had only done it under 392 00:20:12,040 --> 00:20:14,840 Speaker 5: seventeen percent. You're talking about a man in Spoon one 393 00:20:14,920 --> 00:20:19,760 Speaker 5: hundred and eighty one pounds versus versus Im and Worry. 394 00:20:20,040 --> 00:20:22,160 Speaker 5: He weighed exactly two hundred and twenty at the combine, 395 00:20:22,160 --> 00:20:23,440 Speaker 5: thirty nine pounds heavier. 396 00:20:23,640 --> 00:20:26,000 Speaker 4: I want em and Worry in the slot. You can 397 00:20:26,000 --> 00:20:29,000 Speaker 4: play more dime. The Seahawks are number one in nickel 398 00:20:29,200 --> 00:20:33,720 Speaker 4: use in all of the NFL, and they but they 399 00:20:33,760 --> 00:20:35,760 Speaker 4: are twentieth in use of dimes. So I think you 400 00:20:35,800 --> 00:20:38,920 Speaker 4: can You can move Witherspoon in occasionally let him play 401 00:20:38,920 --> 00:20:41,920 Speaker 4: a little closer to the hardball. But you know, you 402 00:20:42,040 --> 00:20:44,800 Speaker 4: got a guy that that's only played two games, he's 403 00:20:44,840 --> 00:20:47,719 Speaker 4: had two different injuries that he's been heard at and 404 00:20:47,720 --> 00:20:50,720 Speaker 4: and you know so I think I think just the 405 00:20:50,760 --> 00:20:53,040 Speaker 4: wear and tear on his body. I'd like to see 406 00:20:53,119 --> 00:20:57,879 Speaker 4: him play outside. That's Witherspoon outside at corner, not nearly 407 00:20:57,880 --> 00:21:01,160 Speaker 4: as much in their playing hardball. Let emn worry man 408 00:21:01,200 --> 00:21:03,920 Speaker 4: that opposition. He's been doing it great. And by the way, 409 00:21:03,920 --> 00:21:08,199 Speaker 4: Evan worry. Here's the thought on this thirteen snaps of 410 00:21:08,240 --> 00:21:11,120 Speaker 4: cover one that's man to man. I went back, looked 411 00:21:11,119 --> 00:21:14,679 Speaker 4: at the whole tape. Uh, he covered. He just covers 412 00:21:14,720 --> 00:21:17,399 Speaker 4: the whoever's the slot guy in the slot. He's covered 413 00:21:17,440 --> 00:21:20,320 Speaker 4: Braxon Barrios and Travis Hunter, two guys at one hundred 414 00:21:20,320 --> 00:21:22,520 Speaker 4: and eighty five pounds or less. He's covered mid size 415 00:21:22,560 --> 00:21:25,080 Speaker 4: guys Chris Godwin in the Mega BUCA, both around six 416 00:21:25,160 --> 00:21:27,240 Speaker 4: to one a little over two hundred pounds. He's covered 417 00:21:27,240 --> 00:21:30,680 Speaker 4: big wide receivers Jayden Higgins and Tim Patrick are both 418 00:21:30,800 --> 00:21:33,720 Speaker 4: six foot four or taller and over two hundred ten pounds. 419 00:21:33,760 --> 00:21:36,199 Speaker 4: And he's got three reps on tight ends. He covers 420 00:21:36,280 --> 00:21:40,160 Speaker 4: whoever's in the slot in man to man and he's 421 00:21:40,200 --> 00:21:42,960 Speaker 4: not been targeted. But one time out of those thirteen 422 00:21:43,160 --> 00:21:45,680 Speaker 4: he had beautiful coverage. It was an incompletion in man 423 00:21:45,720 --> 00:21:48,000 Speaker 4: and man coverage. They have yet to complete a pass 424 00:21:48,040 --> 00:21:50,639 Speaker 4: against Nick and Moore, Em and Warriy, regardless of the 425 00:21:50,680 --> 00:21:52,800 Speaker 4: size of the player in the slot that he's covering. 426 00:21:53,160 --> 00:21:55,680 Speaker 6: How many how many twenty carry games? Dick? Did you 427 00:21:55,760 --> 00:21:57,639 Speaker 6: say Canon had his rookie year? Do you remember what 428 00:21:57,680 --> 00:21:58,159 Speaker 6: the number was? 429 00:21:58,200 --> 00:22:01,040 Speaker 5: He finished the season with three in a row. I'd 430 00:22:01,040 --> 00:22:02,479 Speaker 5: have to go back and check how many he had 431 00:22:02,520 --> 00:22:04,800 Speaker 5: hard in the season, But the point was he carried 432 00:22:04,800 --> 00:22:06,840 Speaker 5: the ball four more in his rookie year than he 433 00:22:06,840 --> 00:22:07,439 Speaker 5: has recently. 434 00:22:07,520 --> 00:22:08,119 Speaker 6: Let me look it up. 435 00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:11,080 Speaker 3: So he had six games of twenty carries or more 436 00:22:11,119 --> 00:22:17,080 Speaker 3: as rookie year, okay, six in fifteen games. Since then, 437 00:22:17,600 --> 00:22:21,040 Speaker 3: he's only carried it twenty times or more three times 438 00:22:21,080 --> 00:22:24,560 Speaker 3: in thirty three games. And the Seahawks are thirty first 439 00:22:24,600 --> 00:22:27,040 Speaker 3: in the NFL and yards per carry. They're number one 440 00:22:27,040 --> 00:22:30,439 Speaker 3: in run defense, but they're terrible in rushing offense. Is 441 00:22:30,480 --> 00:22:33,040 Speaker 3: it time simply put to just kind of do the 442 00:22:33,080 --> 00:22:35,080 Speaker 3: obvious and just give number nine the ball more? 443 00:22:36,160 --> 00:22:39,359 Speaker 4: Well, there's the question about maintenance on that ankle. He 444 00:22:39,400 --> 00:22:43,400 Speaker 4: had the high ankle spring, did not have surgery. You know, 445 00:22:43,480 --> 00:22:47,359 Speaker 4: it bothered him in training camps, so so you know, 446 00:22:47,440 --> 00:22:49,639 Speaker 4: I don't know exactly what the load is on that. 447 00:22:49,760 --> 00:22:52,880 Speaker 4: So that would be the asterisk to the question as 448 00:22:52,920 --> 00:22:55,280 Speaker 4: it as it relates to the production. Yeah, I mean 449 00:22:55,320 --> 00:22:59,360 Speaker 4: outside zone. The Seahawks are not in the top twenty 450 00:22:59,400 --> 00:23:03,200 Speaker 4: in any not inside zone. Not the power in the counter. 451 00:23:03,240 --> 00:23:05,800 Speaker 4: Those are gap schemes, not dual. These are all run plays, 452 00:23:05,840 --> 00:23:08,320 Speaker 4: the five primary run plays in the NFL. They're not 453 00:23:08,359 --> 00:23:10,600 Speaker 4: in the top twenty and eight. They barely creep into 454 00:23:10,680 --> 00:23:13,439 Speaker 4: the top twenty in the outside zone. A lot of 455 00:23:13,440 --> 00:23:16,720 Speaker 4: discussion about that since Clint Kubiak arrived. But they're nineteenth 456 00:23:16,960 --> 00:23:21,080 Speaker 4: four point two average, but K nine averages five point 457 00:23:21,160 --> 00:23:28,080 Speaker 4: five and sarbonnet averages under two yards, huge discrepancy at 458 00:23:28,080 --> 00:23:30,680 Speaker 4: their bread and butter play. If his ankle can help, 459 00:23:31,119 --> 00:23:33,719 Speaker 4: can handle it, Canine's your guy. I just don't know 460 00:23:33,960 --> 00:23:35,879 Speaker 4: what the injury status is in that regard. 461 00:23:36,160 --> 00:23:39,119 Speaker 5: I saw a stat today on Cowards Show that I 462 00:23:39,280 --> 00:23:41,320 Speaker 5: didn't believe. I had to go look up because we're 463 00:23:41,359 --> 00:23:43,280 Speaker 5: two and oh in the last two games and the 464 00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:47,280 Speaker 5: Seahawks are three for twenty six on third downs. Yeah, 465 00:23:47,320 --> 00:23:49,520 Speaker 5: and they have gone two and oh in those football games. 466 00:23:49,720 --> 00:23:52,480 Speaker 5: So what is going on on third down? Is it 467 00:23:52,600 --> 00:23:55,560 Speaker 5: just simply the lack of being able to establish a 468 00:23:55,640 --> 00:23:58,600 Speaker 5: run gamer? Is there something else going on on third downs? 469 00:23:58,840 --> 00:23:59,240 Speaker 2: Yeah? 470 00:23:59,359 --> 00:24:03,159 Speaker 4: I think that's improve because here's the stat that's tasty 471 00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:06,000 Speaker 4: as we're talking about all these discussions with Jays and everything, 472 00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:11,320 Speaker 4: opponent net yards per pass. The Commanders are thirty second, 473 00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:16,800 Speaker 4: dead last and Sam Donald is number one in yards 474 00:24:16,840 --> 00:24:20,359 Speaker 4: per attempt. So on paper, that looks really bad for 475 00:24:20,440 --> 00:24:22,840 Speaker 4: the Commanders and it should be tasty for all that, 476 00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:24,320 Speaker 4: you know, So we should be able to improve on 477 00:24:24,359 --> 00:24:26,880 Speaker 4: those third down numbers. But I think it also speaks 478 00:24:26,920 --> 00:24:32,480 Speaker 4: to not getting the other players enough involved. If everybody 479 00:24:32,520 --> 00:24:35,440 Speaker 4: knows the balls going to JSN and you haven't really 480 00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:38,480 Speaker 4: developed that real cohesion, you know, the tight ends, I 481 00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:41,440 Speaker 4: think it's been I think Royo has been a little 482 00:24:41,440 --> 00:24:44,119 Speaker 4: bit of a letdown in terms of his production. I 483 00:24:44,160 --> 00:24:47,760 Speaker 4: think Cup there's more there. Certainly, Horton, I see times, 484 00:24:47,840 --> 00:24:49,800 Speaker 4: not a lot, but I see times on the tape 485 00:24:49,840 --> 00:24:51,359 Speaker 4: where I come back on a and if I was 486 00:24:51,440 --> 00:24:54,840 Speaker 4: quarterback coaching Sam Donald. I'd say, look, you got the 487 00:24:54,840 --> 00:24:57,200 Speaker 4: coverage rolled away, you got nice easy one on one. 488 00:24:57,560 --> 00:25:00,960 Speaker 4: Here's Tory Horton on an eighteen yard dig. Just stab 489 00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:04,800 Speaker 4: it in there. That's an easy completion for you for 490 00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:07,639 Speaker 4: a lot of yards. I think there's some some of 491 00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:10,080 Speaker 4: that stuff that's there for them, and some of that's 492 00:25:10,119 --> 00:25:12,040 Speaker 4: on third down. So I think I think they just 493 00:25:12,080 --> 00:25:14,439 Speaker 4: need to tweak. We don't we don't need to have 494 00:25:14,560 --> 00:25:16,840 Speaker 4: a huge overhaul. We've got to tweak a little bit 495 00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:18,640 Speaker 4: of the things that we're seeing from a really good 496 00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:20,520 Speaker 4: offense that can be even better. 497 00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:22,760 Speaker 3: Well, I'm going to give you a player here, and 498 00:25:22,840 --> 00:25:24,399 Speaker 3: before I tell you who it is, I'm just going 499 00:25:24,480 --> 00:25:27,000 Speaker 3: to give you some numbers. This player is number three 500 00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:29,960 Speaker 3: in the NFL and QBR, three tenths of a point 501 00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:34,000 Speaker 3: behind the leader in Dak Prescott. This player is number 502 00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:37,199 Speaker 3: four in the NFL and completion percentage. This player is 503 00:25:37,280 --> 00:25:40,440 Speaker 3: number four in the NFL and passing yards. By the way, 504 00:25:40,560 --> 00:25:43,120 Speaker 3: and this player is the starting quarterback of a seven 505 00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:45,560 Speaker 3: and one football team that leads to the NFL in 506 00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:48,159 Speaker 3: point differential. You would think that that player would be 507 00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:50,919 Speaker 3: in the MVP race. Well, that player's name is Daniel 508 00:25:50,960 --> 00:25:54,160 Speaker 3: Jones of the Indianapolis Colts. And there's one guy that's 509 00:25:54,160 --> 00:25:56,280 Speaker 3: been on this radio show for years telling us, you 510 00:25:56,320 --> 00:25:59,000 Speaker 3: get Daniel Jones out of that crap system in New 511 00:25:59,080 --> 00:26:03,040 Speaker 3: York and a regular system where he can flourish, and 512 00:26:03,119 --> 00:26:05,760 Speaker 3: I'm telling you this guy might blow up. And man, 513 00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:09,240 Speaker 3: did you call it? Holy crap? Did you call it 514 00:26:09,240 --> 00:26:12,359 Speaker 3: on Daniel Jones? Because you know what, you dude, it 515 00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:15,600 Speaker 3: took one year. He got let go by the Giants. 516 00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:18,399 Speaker 3: Instantly he went to the Vikings practice squad where he 517 00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:22,280 Speaker 3: didn't even play, signs on with the Giants and Boom 518 00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:26,439 Speaker 3: are the Colts and Boom from the start is playing 519 00:26:26,520 --> 00:26:27,159 Speaker 3: like an MVP. 520 00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:28,679 Speaker 6: My god, did you call that? 521 00:26:29,040 --> 00:26:31,640 Speaker 4: Well, you know, I'm not gonna spike any footballs here 522 00:26:31,680 --> 00:26:34,400 Speaker 4: on that I would because there's a lot of football 523 00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:37,080 Speaker 4: to be played. And I just think that that what 524 00:26:37,280 --> 00:26:39,960 Speaker 4: was there was You look and you say the Giants 525 00:26:40,040 --> 00:26:42,960 Speaker 4: offensive line. If there's any line that's been worse than 526 00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:45,280 Speaker 4: the Seahawks over the last five six years, it's been 527 00:26:45,320 --> 00:26:48,600 Speaker 4: the Giants. They until they got Molik Neighbors, their wide 528 00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:52,560 Speaker 4: receiver corps was the worst. They had nothing the weather, 529 00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:55,840 Speaker 4: it's hard to play the press, and I said it, 530 00:26:56,760 --> 00:26:59,480 Speaker 4: I believe it. I thought Daniel Jones had the hardest 531 00:26:59,560 --> 00:27:04,919 Speaker 4: job in sports for three four five years based on 532 00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:07,760 Speaker 4: all of those factors. If quarterbacking is the hardest spot 533 00:27:08,520 --> 00:27:12,560 Speaker 4: a job in sports, he had the hardest quarterbacking job 534 00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:16,600 Speaker 4: in all of sports. And so, you know, I think 535 00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:19,400 Speaker 4: just you'd look at you you see a big guy 536 00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:24,480 Speaker 4: with a beautiful release, good looking, you know, good looking athletes, strong, tough, 537 00:27:24,520 --> 00:27:26,360 Speaker 4: you saw what you know. Hell, he beat the Seahawks 538 00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:30,119 Speaker 4: in last September, right, Dick, remember you and I went 539 00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:33,600 Speaker 4: to blows on you know. That was you know, so, uh, 540 00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:36,240 Speaker 4: you know, good for him. I think he showed class. 541 00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:38,720 Speaker 4: Uh you know, I think I think his head coach 542 00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:41,600 Speaker 4: was a prick on more than one occasion, Tim, and 543 00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:43,399 Speaker 4: he just kind of took the high road. And so 544 00:27:44,119 --> 00:27:46,840 Speaker 4: he seems like a good dude. I think there's clearly 545 00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:49,040 Speaker 4: talent there. And we'll see. I mean, he's you know, 546 00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:53,600 Speaker 4: he's quarterbacking. The are they they not the highest scoring 547 00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:56,159 Speaker 4: team in the NFL and they're the only team with 548 00:27:56,240 --> 00:27:57,240 Speaker 4: one loss in the NFL. 549 00:27:57,320 --> 00:27:59,600 Speaker 3: By the way, By the way, that's the second time 550 00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:01,520 Speaker 3: that you've on a giant coach a prick. 551 00:28:01,359 --> 00:28:04,320 Speaker 4: On your first ourselves one too. Yeah, you know what 552 00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:06,959 Speaker 4: they yeah, you know what. They're kind of prickly up there, 553 00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:09,040 Speaker 4: and they tend to hire those kind of guys. 554 00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:12,280 Speaker 3: All right, man, go gain, we'll talk to it Monday. 555 00:28:12,280 --> 00:28:14,760 Speaker 3: All right, everything has all right here, milling with us. 556 00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:16,680 Speaker 3: I got a lot to get to between now and seven. 557 00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:19,240 Speaker 3: Rick new Heisel coming up, fun with audio coming up 558 00:28:19,320 --> 00:28:21,280 Speaker 3: on ninety three three kJ A r f M. 559 00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:26,560 Speaker 1: This is Duke of Duke Seafood and this hour is 560 00:28:26,560 --> 00:28:28,879 Speaker 1: brought to you by Duke Seafood. Why don't you make 561 00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:31,719 Speaker 1: it a Duke's night tonight. Reserve your table today at 562 00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:35,679 Speaker 1: Dukeseafood dot com. 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Keeping an eye on Game six of 570 00:28:58,280 --> 00:29:03,160 Speaker 3: the World Series Fracking play tomorrow Seahawks on Sunday night 571 00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:07,280 Speaker 3: against the Washington Commanders, and just going back to what 572 00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:09,760 Speaker 3: Hugh was talking about we ran some numbers on the 573 00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:12,840 Speaker 3: percentage of pass plays going to Jackson Smith and Jigma. 574 00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:14,440 Speaker 3: I mean, I don't know, man, I'm trying to remember, 575 00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:16,880 Speaker 3: going back to the days of largin et cetera. I'm 576 00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:19,840 Speaker 3: trying to remember if there's ever been a Seahawk wide 577 00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:23,920 Speaker 3: receiver that was this responsible for a bigger portion of 578 00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:26,680 Speaker 3: their passing game than Jackson Smith and Jigba. 579 00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:28,400 Speaker 6: And it's amazing. What's amazing. 580 00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:30,920 Speaker 3: I think you asked Mike Homgrin about this dick yesterday 581 00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:33,560 Speaker 3: that teams can't stop it, right, Like they know that 582 00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:36,200 Speaker 3: Jaysen is the guy you gotta take care of and 583 00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:38,280 Speaker 3: take him out, and they can't even do it. 584 00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:40,760 Speaker 6: I mean, I wonder what Dan Quinn does, honestly on 585 00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:41,320 Speaker 6: Sunday night. 586 00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:44,240 Speaker 3: Are we gonna watch this game on Sunday night and 587 00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:47,440 Speaker 3: see the Commanders do to Jackson Smith and Jigba what 588 00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:50,160 Speaker 3: Mike Holmgren did to Steve Smith in the two thousand 589 00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:52,960 Speaker 3: and five Carolina game. Because somebody's gonna do it. Eventually, 590 00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:55,760 Speaker 3: somebody will try and take him away. And I wonder 591 00:29:55,800 --> 00:29:57,200 Speaker 3: if DQ does it Sunday. 592 00:29:57,000 --> 00:29:58,200 Speaker 6: Night, he probably will. 593 00:29:58,280 --> 00:30:00,480 Speaker 5: But I think Cooper Cup is good enough in that 594 00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:04,040 Speaker 5: scenario to make them pay for it, right. I don't 595 00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:06,960 Speaker 5: think Cooper Cup's necessarily good enough right now if everybody 596 00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:09,880 Speaker 5: else is playing regular. But if if all the attention 597 00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:14,080 Speaker 5: is focused regular, just your standard based defense. 598 00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:16,280 Speaker 4: Is what I'm talking about. 599 00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:17,960 Speaker 6: I get it. 600 00:30:18,120 --> 00:30:20,959 Speaker 3: He's cooked. We want to play him regular. That's how 601 00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:22,920 Speaker 3: we're going to approach him. I mean, we'll say, I 602 00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:25,720 Speaker 3: mean he's thirty three, is that right? Thirty three years old? 603 00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:28,040 Speaker 3: I mean, obviously he's not the player he used to be, 604 00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:31,280 Speaker 3: but I think with his skill set, he kind of 605 00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:33,680 Speaker 3: strikes me Dick and Andrews is the kind of guy 606 00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:36,600 Speaker 3: who would be less affected by age versus other wide 607 00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:40,840 Speaker 3: receivers because of the way he was seven. 608 00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:42,000 Speaker 6: No, never has been. 609 00:30:42,120 --> 00:30:45,040 Speaker 3: So I mean, somebody's gonna do it, and it's probably 610 00:30:45,080 --> 00:30:47,440 Speaker 3: gonna happen on Sunday night. You know, Dan Quinn's not 611 00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:49,360 Speaker 3: an idiot. You know, he's one of the better defensive 612 00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:52,000 Speaker 3: minds in the NFL. And I'm just really curious to 613 00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:54,600 Speaker 3: see how they respond to it. And then there's obviously 614 00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:57,960 Speaker 3: you know, look, I'm not sitting here overly concerned about this. 615 00:30:58,080 --> 00:30:59,480 Speaker 6: I'm not losing sleep over it. 616 00:30:59,560 --> 00:31:01,640 Speaker 3: I think more about the freaking Blue Jays winning the 617 00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:04,240 Speaker 3: World Series more than I do Jackson Smith and Jig 618 00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:06,959 Speaker 3: but getting hurt. But it is one of those deals 619 00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:11,080 Speaker 3: that if he's somehow someway is limited or goes down 620 00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:14,080 Speaker 3: or is hampered by some kind of an injury, man, 621 00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:15,480 Speaker 3: you're putting a lot on his play. 622 00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:16,120 Speaker 6: No, you really are. 623 00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:18,840 Speaker 5: I mean this this game is fascinating to me because 624 00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:22,920 Speaker 5: it is as a betting person, this is one that 625 00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:25,040 Speaker 5: you would just want to dump on Washington, right, You 626 00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:28,200 Speaker 5: would just want to put because the situation is so 627 00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:32,960 Speaker 5: good for Washington at home, getting points, getting their quarterback back, 628 00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:35,040 Speaker 5: coming off a bad loss, all. 629 00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:36,800 Speaker 6: Of those gambling reasons. Yeah. 630 00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:41,280 Speaker 5: But then just the terrible team that year, that's the thing. 631 00:31:41,560 --> 00:31:44,800 Speaker 5: It's like, they're not nearly as good as Seattle. So 632 00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:47,080 Speaker 5: I think this, and we've got a few games like 633 00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:51,480 Speaker 5: that on the docket in this week where just the 634 00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:55,000 Speaker 5: by far the worst team is only a small underdog 635 00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:55,520 Speaker 5: because of. 636 00:31:55,480 --> 00:31:56,320 Speaker 6: The spot that they're in. 637 00:31:56,440 --> 00:32:01,280 Speaker 3: Well, here's who the Commanders have beaten. They've beaten the Giants, 638 00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:03,840 Speaker 3: they've beaten the Raiders, and they've beaten the Chargers. That's 639 00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:06,000 Speaker 3: who they've beaten this year. Two of those three teams 640 00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:07,920 Speaker 3: are gone off the Charge. If they can beat the Charge, 641 00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:08,840 Speaker 3: they can beat the Seahawks. 642 00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:09,120 Speaker 6: Sure. 643 00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:09,440 Speaker 4: Yeah. 644 00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:11,280 Speaker 3: And the Chargers, I think you're a better team than 645 00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:14,520 Speaker 3: what they've shown lately. But they lost to Chicago, they 646 00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:17,720 Speaker 3: got hammered by Dallas, they got hammered by Kansas City, 647 00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:20,880 Speaker 3: they got beat soundly by Green Bay. They lost to 648 00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:24,200 Speaker 3: a mediocre Atlanta football team. I'm with you that I 649 00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:26,200 Speaker 3: think the Hawks have a better roster, and now the 650 00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:30,520 Speaker 3: Commanders are without Terry McLaurin. I'm not so convinced about 651 00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:32,680 Speaker 3: Terry McLaurin being out that that's going to make a 652 00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:35,280 Speaker 3: big difference. I never think that wide receivers make that 653 00:32:35,320 --> 00:32:38,240 Speaker 3: big of a difference anyway, unless again, you're Jackson Smith 654 00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:41,240 Speaker 3: and Jigba and you're responsible for damn near forty percent 655 00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:43,800 Speaker 3: of a passing attack. So I don't know, man, this 656 00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:46,520 Speaker 3: would be a pretty impressive thing, I think, guys, for 657 00:32:46,560 --> 00:32:49,120 Speaker 3: the Hawks to go on the road and get this win. 658 00:32:50,560 --> 00:32:53,840 Speaker 3: It would be a three thousand mile across country trip, obviously, 659 00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:56,160 Speaker 3: as you guys know. But they are coming off the 660 00:32:56,200 --> 00:32:59,440 Speaker 3: buy right, They're gonna be rested. They're fairly healthy. I know, 661 00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:02,240 Speaker 3: Julian is not going to play. I know they got 662 00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:04,920 Speaker 3: some guys out like Jake Bobo and Christian Haynes, all 663 00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:07,280 Speaker 3: that blah blah blah. But they win this game and 664 00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:09,280 Speaker 3: they come home against the Cardinals for a chance to 665 00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:13,080 Speaker 3: go seven to two against a beat up Arizona football team. 666 00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:16,160 Speaker 3: This is one of those games for me that could 667 00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:19,080 Speaker 3: be the difference between making the playoffs and maybe fighting 668 00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:21,120 Speaker 3: for the division champions Absolutely, because. 669 00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:22,880 Speaker 5: This was of all the games at the beginning of 670 00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:25,560 Speaker 5: this season, I think I even did this one through seventeen. 671 00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:28,560 Speaker 5: I just ranked easiest game to hardest game. At the 672 00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:31,480 Speaker 5: beginning of the year, I think I had this ranked 673 00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:35,080 Speaker 5: as the most the hardest win game of the year 674 00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:38,960 Speaker 5: at a team that made the end the NFC Championship 675 00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:40,560 Speaker 5: on Sunday Night football. 676 00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:41,840 Speaker 6: That is a loss. 677 00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:44,400 Speaker 5: Now we're seeing it as more of a win now 678 00:33:44,440 --> 00:33:46,800 Speaker 5: than we were there. And you're right, this type of 679 00:33:46,840 --> 00:33:49,640 Speaker 5: game tips the scales from a ten to seven ish, 680 00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:52,600 Speaker 5: even eleven and six is team to potentially. 681 00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:54,960 Speaker 6: You're looking at rarefied twelve and five top. 682 00:33:54,800 --> 00:33:58,040 Speaker 3: Are Yeah, and it's a conference game, huge, right NFC game? 683 00:33:58,040 --> 00:33:58,200 Speaker 6: Man? 684 00:33:58,200 --> 00:34:01,239 Speaker 3: Come on, are we going to break on with audio slash? Hey, 685 00:34:01,320 --> 00:34:03,040 Speaker 3: Did you hear that Rick new heisl coming up as 686 00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:05,120 Speaker 3: well in the six pm hour right here on ninety 687 00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:06,280 Speaker 3: three three KJRFM