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Speaker 1: Where we go.

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Speaker 2: Mike Holmgren will be here as well, by the way,

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Speaker 2: on the radio show in person live from the five

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Speaker 2: twenty Bar and Grill at three forty five this afternoon. Well,

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Speaker 2: Memphis lost ba Okay, they lost all right, So Rick

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Speaker 2: did not cover.

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Speaker 3: He did not cover. He's a big loser yet again.

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Speaker 4: Oh and Memphis had a big lead too. He's gonna

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Speaker 2: He's our Memphis had this double digit lead, all right. Well,

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Speaker 2: he's one and two in his last three games. It

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Speaker 2: means it's time to buy the dip. Great chance to

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Speaker 2: jump on board with with Rick new Heiseel. So anyway,

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Speaker 2: Mike Homgrin joining us at three forty five and four

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Speaker 2: o'clock before cracking hockey pregame three thirty face off at

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Speaker 2: four o'clock. Excuse me, five o'clock from Chicago this afternoon.

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Speaker 2: But the Mariners again today announcing, as you heard in

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Speaker 2: the update there, that Randy Johnson will have his number

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Speaker 2: fifty one retired in a pregame ceremony on the second

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Speaker 2: of May. I think they should have done it on

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Speaker 2: the first of May because that would have been five

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Speaker 2: to one for fifty one. Just another example of how

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Speaker 2: the Mariner marketing people have no idea what the hell

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Speaker 2: they're doing, and they should listen to me because I

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Speaker 2: have all the good ideas. I mean, again, like I

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Speaker 2: said in the update, I'm certain it's because it's a Friday.

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Speaker 2: They want this thing on a Saturday. But hey, good

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Speaker 2: for Randy Johnson. And now we're starting to get a

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Speaker 2: little history here, right, you were not growing up? We

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Speaker 2: had nothing. There were no Mariner retired numbers. The only

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Speaker 2: retired number I think we had in town for a

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Speaker 2: pro team was number twelve with the Seahawks, and that

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Speaker 4: That's right. I've got an even better idea than doing

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Speaker 4: it on May first, twenty twenty six.

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Speaker 3: May threw it in Arizona.

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Speaker 4: Oh no, all right, May first, twenty twenty seven is

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Speaker 4: a Saturday. Okay, they could have waited one more year.

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Speaker 4: I had it on five to one.

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Speaker 3: Well, I mean, I don't know.

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Speaker 2: Maybe Randy's like, hey, you can do it for each

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Speaker 2: uro first, but i'd better damn well be the following season.

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Speaker 2: I have no idea why they're doing it this year.

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Speaker 2: I think it's great though that he's getting his number retired.

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Speaker 2: No problem with it whatsoever. There's a lot of people

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Speaker 2: that probably could have argued that maybe Randy should have

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Speaker 2: had his number retired before each Euro, right, But I

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Speaker 2: I don't like the way an end to with Randy Johnson.

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Speaker 2: I think Randy Johnson became a absolute lock for the

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Speaker 2: Hall of Fame when he went to Arizona. He was

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Speaker 2: probably a Hall of Famer when he left Seattle, but

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Speaker 2: he definitely became a Hall of Famer when he went

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Speaker 4: He certainly did. I'm one of those that thought Randy

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Speaker 4: should have gotten honored before each RO. I feel like,

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Speaker 4: even though Randy was here a much shorter time than

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Speaker 4: Eachro was, I have far more big time memories of

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Speaker 4: Randy Johnson as a Seattle Mariner that does well.

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Speaker 2: That's because he well, probably because he had better talent

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Speaker 4: Except a home runs, right, but which he said he

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Speaker 2: But that also wasn't his Forte. I mean, are we

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Speaker 2: literally sitting here saying that if Eachiro would have hit

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Speaker 2: four playoff appearance. No, because the offense around each course terrible.

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Speaker 3: So like, I mean, one.

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Speaker 4: Of the worst in baseball history statistically, that twenty ten

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Speaker 2: Because I just I just wonder if each Euro had

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Speaker 2: when he came into the bullpen. That people kind of

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Speaker 4: He gave up the lead.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but he pitched, he did, but they still gave

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Speaker 2: I mean, he was in line to lose the game

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Speaker 3: So I don't know, man, I mean, I'm I'm fired

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Speaker 2: I just think it's for the younger generation to be

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Speaker 2: this will now become the third team in baseball to

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Speaker 2: it for Bill Dickey and Yogi Bear, the Cubs did

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Speaker 2: Mariners have done it for Randy Johnson and Echi rose Azuki.

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Speaker 2: So those are all some pretty damn big games.

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Speaker 4: By the way, there's no question, and yeah, we're finally

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Speaker 4: starting to have a history. I do think it's kind

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Speaker 4: of cool. I've always thought it cool that you and

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Speaker 4: I are of the age where we are truly generation

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Speaker 4: even though we don't remember like the first year they played,

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Speaker 3: Absolutely. Man, it means we're freaking old, by the way.

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Speaker 3: So we'll talk.

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Speaker 2: We'll talk about all this as the show goes on.

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Speaker 2: Mike Hombrian's gonna join us today at three forty five

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Speaker 2: here live from the Bar. We're gonna thoughts on what

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Speaker 2: I think most of us just expect the Seahawks to

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Speaker 2: I think it's going to be a lower scoring game

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Speaker 3: My concern about the offense.

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Speaker 2: If there is a concern, is that I can see

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Speaker 2: Cardinal game, and if they're up thirty five to three

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Speaker 2: at halftime, I totally get it. But the spread is

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Speaker 2: factor fiction. The back door cover always concerns you with

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Speaker 2: a game like this, but I do wonder will this

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Speaker 2: Sam Darnold a little bit. The last thing you want

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Speaker 2: of significance. I don't even know if grays Abel is

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Speaker 2: might make sense to sit the guy out and let

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Speaker 2: playing on the road, But I just I don't know, man.

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Speaker 2: It's not very often that you see a football team

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Speaker 4: And statistically they're better against the pass than they are

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Speaker 4: Ken ken Walker game, right for the first time all year,

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Speaker 4: because we were like, what's Ken's role? Is he a

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Speaker 4: We've had all these tough matchups against these tough defenses.

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Speaker 4: Now it appears like they've decided, all right, we might

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Speaker 4: go a little closer to seventy thirty seventy five to

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Speaker 4: screaming for all season long. And you put that together

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Speaker 4: point seven. This should be a Ken Walker one hundred

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Speaker 2: Well, somebody should have one hundred yards. They might think

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Speaker 2: it's Zach Charbonnat's turn. I have no idea where they

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Speaker 4: I mean the articles all week long from the guys

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Speaker 2: Well, good, then do it right. I mean, I don't

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Speaker 3: Well, what's he shown that he doesn't deserve carries?

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Speaker 2: And what is Sharbonny's showing that he deserves carries. I mean,

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Speaker 2: I just think that they are way behind now. Maybe

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Speaker 2: this will then, you know, eventually, maybe this will prove

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Speaker 2: to be the right move, because what's the biggest problem

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Speaker 2: and he's healthy, and they got tread on the tire.

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Speaker 2: The carries aren't there the way they normally are, right,

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Speaker 2: he's not getting as much run. Maybe they've played this

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Speaker 2: at it. Man, the guy's averaging four and a half

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Speaker 2: He's three hundred and ninety four yards away from a

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Speaker 2: being healthy towards the stretch run. We might look back

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Speaker 2: pretty damn good. I don't know, it could be, I mean,

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Speaker 2: he would have given you this every single game. Right,

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Speaker 2: There's really no way to prove which one, but I

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Speaker 2: think you're right he is. He's obviously fresher at this

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Speaker 2: he only has one hundred and thirty six carries on

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Speaker 2: the season. This is a guy that could get twenty

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Speaker 2: first time since Week number two.

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Speaker 4: Last week he had one hundred total yards, and they

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Speaker 4: got him involved in the passing game. He had by

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Speaker 4: far his best receiving game, three catches for forty four yards.

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Speaker 4: I think we need to see more of.

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Speaker 2: That well the last twenty one games. He only has

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Speaker 2: courtesy at Taco Time. Next on ninety three to three KJRFM.

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Speaker 2: Mike Homgre'm gonna join us next segment. He is here

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Speaker 2: Well, we'll get a pick coming up from you in

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Speaker 2: Wow, that is far too logical for college fool. Can

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Speaker 3: It makes something of your life, will you? For good's sake?

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Speaker 7: Man, I'm available?

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Speaker 4: Man uh Rick. You mentioned LSU there and in that monologue.

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Speaker 7: I probably not very right now, and it's a shame

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Speaker 2: Rick new Heisel with us courtesy of our friends at

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Speaker 2: Taco time talk to us about Oregon USC. I think

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Speaker 7: I think I think you're dead right. I don't think

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Speaker 4: Rick. One of USC's two losses is to Notre Dame.

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Speaker 7: Leverage one hundred percent Notre Dame needs USC? And just

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Speaker 2: Well, I know you would have loved to have been

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Speaker 2: I mean, especially a regular season game against UCLA. So

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Speaker 2: I guess my question to you is a former Bruin,

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Speaker 2: how emotional, how inspired do you think the crowd will

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Speaker 2: be and the players will be to show up and

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Speaker 2: show out on Saturday? And then Nico did not play

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Speaker 2: a week ago. It looks like he may play Saturday.

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Speaker 2: How problematic is that for the Husky defense.

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Speaker 7: Well, Nico's the key to the offense. There's no question.

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Speaker 7: His ability, both with his arm and his legs are

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Speaker 7: the straw that stirs the drink for that offense. And

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Speaker 7: that's no secret. Fingers crossed that he'll play for the

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Speaker 7: sake of a great game. The Huskies are clearly the

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Speaker 7: favorite in this game because there's just not been enough

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Speaker 7: consistency on either side of the ball at UCLA, and

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Speaker 7: for the Bruins to have any sort of chance, they're

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Speaker 7: going to have to corral Demon Williams. As for the crowd.

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Speaker 7: As for the crowd, I hope that we get a

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Speaker 7: nice crowd. You know, Bruin fans are a little fickle

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Speaker 7: at times with respect to if you're winning there in

456
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Speaker 7: if they're not winning, they kind of it's a long

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Speaker 7: trip right twenty six miles to the Rose Bull from UCLA.

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Speaker 7: But fingers crossed that it'll be a fantastic game and

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Speaker 7: we'll wait and see who's the next guy at UCLA.

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Speaker 7: Hopefully you'll get the sport necessary to be successful.

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Speaker 4: Would you say, Softie were one and nine in our

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Speaker 4: last ten games down there against them against Ucla. Rick,

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Speaker 4: please explain that to me. Why better Husky teams, even

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Speaker 4: the ones that you coached to be back in nineteen

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Speaker 4: nine and nine, better Husky teams go down there and

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Speaker 4: lose to Ucla.

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Speaker 7: Why is that that overtime? Nightmare? God dang it. John

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Speaker 7: Anderson made the fifty six yard er. We're going to

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Speaker 7: the Rose Bowl, boys, if we just we just didn't

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Speaker 7: see the proper receiver. Marcus didn't practice all week. I

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Speaker 7: don't remember now.

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Speaker 2: Was that the week after the Arizona game, By the way,

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Speaker 2: when they brought the Roses out.

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Speaker 7: He that's exactly right, they brought the Roses out. He'd

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Speaker 7: practiced no game, none at all, and we had that

476
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Speaker 7: long drive sealed the deal. Then he had to sit

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Speaker 7: the entire week the next week and just weren't sharp enough,

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Speaker 7: just weren't sharp enough, and unfortunately lost that one. Just nightmare.

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Speaker 7: But you know, I for years, UCLA has always looked

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Speaker 7: forward to the Washington game as much as the sc

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Speaker 7: game because of the way Don James coached Washington and

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Speaker 7: the toughness that was exhibited by the Dogs. It was

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Speaker 7: a call to arms in every UCLA locker room prior

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Speaker 7: to that game that we are going to match the toughness,

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Speaker 7: and because of that, it just was a galvanizing deal.

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Speaker 7: I remember coming up to Seattle and being on teams

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Speaker 7: that like in nicole stuff, it didn't matter. This was

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Speaker 7: tough guy stuff, just because of the respect that we

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Speaker 7: had for Coach James's the Husky teams.

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Speaker 2: All right, before you go, it's time to get back

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Speaker 2: to five hundred. The entire menu was sitting there. You

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Speaker 3: Want to eat.

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Speaker 2: Man, East Carolina ruined our week last week. Let's get

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Speaker 2: back in the win column. Taco Time Selection, I'm gonna

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Speaker 2: and the cris beef burrito. Jackson's favorite with an old favorite.

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Speaker 2: Who do you like this week for your Taco Time

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Speaker 2: Pick of the.

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Speaker 7: Week, I'm going to the Mountain West. I'm going to

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Speaker 7: take Dan Mullen's UNLB Rebels over Hawaii. They're only a

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Speaker 7: two point pick. Hawaii has been fantastic, give Timmy Chang

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Speaker 7: all sorts of credit, but it's another long road trip

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Speaker 7: and it's a critical game for the Rebels, So I'm

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Speaker 7: going to take Anthony Calandria and the reps to cover

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Speaker 7: the two and a half.

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Speaker 2: All right, UNLV minus the points against Hawaii on Saturday

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Speaker 2: in Vegas.

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Speaker 3: All Right, you're the man. Great stuff.

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Speaker 2: Hey, we'll try to find a way to talk next

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Speaker 2: week before Turkey Day.

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Speaker 3: Appreciate this past, Rick.

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Speaker 7: I look forward to it. Boys, we're coming down the stretch.

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Speaker 7: Always a blast.

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Speaker 3: I love it.

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Speaker 2: All right, Rick new Heisel with us. We got his pick.

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Speaker 3: Just need to look on Homegren's face.

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Speaker 2: He was sitting here listening to new Heizel when he's

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Speaker 2: Well, we'll ask Mike about that coming up the factor

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Speaker 2: fiction Thursday, Dick Day, What do you got?

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Speaker 4: Oh? I love this I love this game. Aaron Rodgers

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Speaker 4: the Bears have won three straight by five points or

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Speaker 4: me Aaron Rodgers and the Pittsburgh Steelers getting two and

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Speaker 3: Have we seen the weather, by the way for Chicago?

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Speaker 3: We looked at all? Is that a factor for anybody?

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Speaker 1: Okay?

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Speaker 2: The Packers by the way, or see the Packers. The

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Speaker 2: they're six and four, but a pretty strong six and

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Speaker 3: Is that right? All right?

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Speaker 2: Pittsburgh plus two and a half at Chicago versus Caleb

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Speaker 5: Two things. First up, This slight chance of rain seven

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Speaker 5: that bad. I would just say, Dick, are we sure

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Speaker 4: Right, his left hand, he's got a raised as still left.

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Speaker 4: Riss Jackson, I will tell you this. I wrote this

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Speaker 3: What if it's Will Howard not? What if it's Skyler Thompson?

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Speaker 3: All Right, let's.

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Speaker 4: Go with a most due to lose team other mid

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Speaker 2: All right, so Pittsburgh plus the two and a half

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Speaker 3: But Jackson, they got news for you.

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Speaker 2: You're not getting paid until the first of the year

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Speaker 3: Mike a little bit extra.

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Speaker 1: Well, thank you, it's a coming at three forty five, Jackson, Thank.

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: Do you feel bad, poor Jackson? Not gonna have Christmas?

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Speaker 1: No?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, no Christmas for Jackson Felts because Mike wanted to

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Speaker 2: grand Man to come in here early. Well, let's talk

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Speaker 2: about what we saw last Sunday. First of all against

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Speaker 2: the Rams, right, a lot of stuff to talk about.

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Speaker 3: What did you make of what you saw last Sunday, Mike.

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Speaker 1: Well, that was the key, David. You know, we've talked

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Speaker 1: Why because of the four interceptions. That's why you know

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Speaker 1: they're they're against a really good team. The Rams are good.

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Speaker 1: So it was the heck of a game. I was

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Speaker 1: sorry that the Seahawks didn't win, but you know, it

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Speaker 1: just makes for another great game coming up against the Rams.

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Speaker 1: They'll probably decide things. It'll come right down to the wire.

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Speaker 1: But you can't look at and no one knows this

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Speaker 1: better than Sam Darnold. You know, you can't have a

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Speaker 1: game like that. You can't throw four interceptions and think

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Speaker 1: it's going to come out good. You can't.

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Speaker 4: Well, Saftie texted me after the game, and I had

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Speaker 4: feel better about the Seahawks Super Bowl chances that loss

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Speaker 4: feel like Seahawk fans should be bullied by what they

658
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Speaker 4: saw in that game?

659
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Speaker 1: Well, you know what, you could look at it that way.

660
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Speaker 1: If you're the eternal optimist, you.

661
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Speaker 2: Know you're just a negative sob.

662
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Speaker 1: So yeah, you know what I mean. You know, I

663
00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:24,280
Speaker 1: played the position in four court. You know, my first

664
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Speaker 1: game in college as a college coach and BYU against

665
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Speaker 1: Georgia they won the national championship. Steve Young my first game,

666
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Speaker 1: I'm the new quarterback coach. Through six interceptions.

667
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Speaker 4: He turned out to be okay.

668
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Speaker 1: That he turned out to be okay. He was so

669
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Speaker 1: so here's my thing, Sam will be okay.

670
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Speaker 4: Six picks.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, no, no, he wasn't very good.

672
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Speaker 4: When we get.

673
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Speaker 3: I don't know that somebody had money on the game.

674
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Speaker 1: I was just trying to survive. I go, this is

675
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Speaker 1: going to be I'm going to be the shortest tenured

676
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Speaker 1: coach in BYU history.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Well, I remember asking you last week.

678
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Speaker 2: I'm looking through my notes from the Cardinal game at

679
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Speaker 2: all the moments in time where Sam Darnald had turnovers.

680
00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:03,080
Speaker 3: Remember that?

681
00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:05,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I asked you, Hey, you know, are you

682
00:31:05,040 --> 00:31:07,239
Speaker 2: okay with these turnovers if they come when you're up

683
00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:08,480
Speaker 2: thirty three to fifteen or what?

684
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Speaker 1: He said?

685
00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:11,720
Speaker 3: Nope, absolutely not. Then he goes out and throws.

686
00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:14,600
Speaker 2: Four picks in very meaningful situations, every.

687
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Speaker 3: Single one of them.

688
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Speaker 1: Yea.

689
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Speaker 2: Now, all of a sudden, guys, Sam Darnold's got seven

690
00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:23,080
Speaker 2: turnovers in two games, seven two fumbles and five interceptions.

691
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Speaker 3: Are you worried about his confidence?

692
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Speaker 2: A little bit? When you have that many turnovers in

693
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Speaker 2: two games?

694
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Speaker 1: Maybe a little bit, but not a lot. You know,

695
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Speaker 1: I think, what has to happen? Though? What has to happen?

696
00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:39,200
Speaker 1: He's been playing very well, okay, and then but he

697
00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:42,160
Speaker 1: has the turnover? Is hurt right? Okay? Now when you're

698
00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:44,160
Speaker 1: playing a team in your head thirty five to nothing.

699
00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:48,320
Speaker 1: It doesn't matter. It never usually should matter. But like

700
00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:50,720
Speaker 1: in that game, that costs of the game. You have

701
00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:55,560
Speaker 1: got to have a really good talk with Sam about this.

702
00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:58,600
Speaker 1: Why is it happening? What are you seeing? What are

703
00:31:58,600 --> 00:32:02,640
Speaker 1: you thinking? You know, and be honest, both of you,

704
00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:06,959
Speaker 1: be honest about what the situation is. Yeah, yeah, and say, listen,

705
00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:10,480
Speaker 1: you're doing great, We're counting on you. Nothing's changing, But

706
00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:13,240
Speaker 1: tell me about these plays, you know, and then and

707
00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:15,160
Speaker 1: then see if we can fix it a little bit.

708
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Speaker 2: Did you see a guy that had a problem handling

709
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Speaker 2: pressure on Sunday? Because his numbers against the Stafford's numbers

710
00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:23,240
Speaker 2: against the Blitz are very good. Sam's numbers against the

711
00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:25,760
Speaker 2: Blitz are not very good. And I think a lot

712
00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:28,000
Speaker 2: of people would say that they provided some kind of

713
00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:30,400
Speaker 2: a blueprint. Now you gotta be able to execute the blueprints.

714
00:32:30,760 --> 00:32:32,800
Speaker 2: Did you see though, a RAM team that provided a

715
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Speaker 2: blueprint on how to get to this guy?

716
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Speaker 1: Well, I think it proved to your point, which is

717
00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:44,080
Speaker 1: real that under pressure, some quarterbacks handled it better than others.

718
00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:47,440
Speaker 1: And right now, based on that game, he didn't handle

719
00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:49,480
Speaker 1: it very well. Yeah, And you know, when when you're

720
00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:52,560
Speaker 1: teaching the quarterback about a particular play, he has to

721
00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:55,320
Speaker 1: know before the snap of the ball where his problems are.

722
00:32:55,720 --> 00:32:58,360
Speaker 1: If this happens, these are all going on in a second,

723
00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:01,040
Speaker 1: second and a half. Where do I go with the ball.

724
00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:05,920
Speaker 1: But if I'm winding up holding it too long and

725
00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:09,640
Speaker 1: I'm feeling pressure, I don't throw it. I take the

726
00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:12,120
Speaker 1: sack or throw it into the ground. Live for another

727
00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:16,200
Speaker 1: day because the worst thing that can happen happened. And

728
00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:18,520
Speaker 1: on those four throws, well, it's.

729
00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:22,720
Speaker 4: Clear that he's unfazed after throwing interceptions because he just

730
00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:25,320
Speaker 4: keeps chucking. He doesn't go into a shell. Is that

731
00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:27,800
Speaker 4: a good trait for a quarterback to have or a

732
00:33:27,800 --> 00:33:29,960
Speaker 4: bit of a worrisome trait for a quarterback to have?

733
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Speaker 1: Well, you know, people, when you look at it, you saying,

734
00:33:33,280 --> 00:33:35,600
Speaker 1: he it does seem to bother him because he just

735
00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:39,880
Speaker 1: keeps going. I think that you have to find out why.

736
00:33:40,040 --> 00:33:44,160
Speaker 1: It's why you got to know why it happened. What'd

737
00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:47,360
Speaker 1: you see? Do you see him open? Were you late?

738
00:33:48,400 --> 00:33:51,320
Speaker 1: You know where you're feeling the pressure? What about to

739
00:33:51,320 --> 00:33:54,600
Speaker 1: play all these things and get and be honest. Heck,

740
00:33:55,080 --> 00:33:58,000
Speaker 1: just let's be honest on the table. I remember talking

741
00:33:58,000 --> 00:33:59,920
Speaker 1: to Brett fav and I've told you guys the story before.

742
00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:02,680
Speaker 1: At the end of the season, I've met with the

743
00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:06,360
Speaker 1: quarterbacks about what we can improve upon to be better

744
00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:09,480
Speaker 1: next year, right, And I number number of things with him,

745
00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:12,080
Speaker 1: and he goes, Mike, that's just how I play. Yeah,

746
00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:14,759
Speaker 1: And I'd say, you want to go to super Bowl?

747
00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:17,160
Speaker 1: You want to be nine and seven every year? Yeah,

748
00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:18,279
Speaker 1: you know, and he goes, I want to go to

749
00:34:18,320 --> 00:34:20,680
Speaker 1: the super Bowl equally. Then work with me on this, dude,

750
00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:23,520
Speaker 1: change this, and his credit he did. So you have

751
00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:27,000
Speaker 1: tough con you know what. I love my players, but

752
00:34:27,120 --> 00:34:31,000
Speaker 1: you having a tough conversation about a key guy like

753
00:34:31,080 --> 00:34:35,279
Speaker 1: your quarterback, right, you got to have that conversation.

754
00:34:35,640 --> 00:34:36,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, you love your players.

755
00:34:37,120 --> 00:34:38,040
Speaker 1: I do all of them.

756
00:34:38,160 --> 00:34:39,520
Speaker 3: No, see yea.

757
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Speaker 2: Do we have a problem with Sam Donald? When the

765
00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:10,279
Speaker 2: lights are brightest? We got to come back and chat

766
00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:12,759
Speaker 2: about that. Look ahead to the Titans game. We got

767
00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:15,600
Speaker 2: the Bills and the Texans tonight, the Chiefs, your buddy

768
00:35:15,640 --> 00:35:18,520
Speaker 2: Andy Reid kind of in a desperate situation this week

769
00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:21,760
Speaker 2: against Daniel Jones and the Colts. And then hockey, Mike's

770
00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:24,239
Speaker 2: second favorite sport. Pregame four to thirty Face Off five

771
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Speaker 2: from Chicago coming up on ninety three three KJRFM. We're

772
00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:28,839
Speaker 2: back here at the five to twenty bar and grill.

773
00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:31,480
Speaker 2: We got hockey at four thirty on ninety three to

774
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Speaker 2: three KJRFM. We got NFL football at five o'clock over

775
00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:37,000
Speaker 2: on nine to fifty am. But right now we got

776
00:35:37,040 --> 00:35:40,440
Speaker 2: Mike homegrin for another twenty minutes or so, fifteen minutes

777
00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:43,040
Speaker 2: or so before we say goodbye. And we talked about

778
00:35:43,040 --> 00:35:45,080
Speaker 2: this last segment that there's a lot of folks that

779
00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:48,440
Speaker 2: have the RAM game in mind, Mike. They've got the

780
00:35:49,120 --> 00:35:52,279
Speaker 2: Lion game that decided the NFC Central in mind, they

781
00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:55,400
Speaker 2: have the RAM playoff game in mind, and they're wondering

782
00:35:55,440 --> 00:35:58,800
Speaker 2: is Sam Darnald turning into a guy that can't handle

783
00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:00,959
Speaker 2: the bright lights when the games get big?

784
00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:01,719
Speaker 3: What do you think I.

785
00:36:01,719 --> 00:36:04,560
Speaker 1: Would say, don't worry, He's going to be fine. He's

786
00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:07,759
Speaker 1: going to be fine. And this, uh, if anything take

787
00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:11,880
Speaker 1: away from this game for him, I think I think, actually,

788
00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:16,040
Speaker 1: as painful as it was, he's going to be fine.

789
00:36:17,280 --> 00:36:20,200
Speaker 4: There was a lot of talk, even on the broadcast

790
00:36:20,239 --> 00:36:23,480
Speaker 4: from Greg Olsen, who was doing the color commentary, how

791
00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:27,480
Speaker 4: do you balance being patient and yet getting into the

792
00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:30,120
Speaker 4: right play in the right formation quickly and still trying

793
00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:33,279
Speaker 4: to save clock because there was a lot of talk about, oh,

794
00:36:33,360 --> 00:36:36,200
Speaker 4: they wasted too much time in the last last two drives.

795
00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:38,000
Speaker 1: Well, what it seemed to me, Dick, when I was

796
00:36:38,040 --> 00:36:40,400
Speaker 1: watching that it was stuff was coming in from the sideline,

797
00:36:41,040 --> 00:36:44,160
Speaker 1: you know, and and I just we just didn't do

798
00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:46,959
Speaker 1: it that way. You know, you got you gotta drive,

799
00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:50,359
Speaker 1: You got a minute and whatever left. Okay, here's your too,

800
00:36:51,120 --> 00:36:54,680
Speaker 1: you practice this. Here are you're sixth place? Yeah, you

801
00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:57,600
Speaker 1: got it, you got it. You're not wasting any time

802
00:36:58,080 --> 00:37:02,760
Speaker 1: with communicating from the sideline. You know, if anything happens,

803
00:37:03,160 --> 00:37:05,279
Speaker 1: you got your personnel on. You're not changing A lot

804
00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:09,239
Speaker 1: of personnel the guys are out there playing because right

805
00:37:09,360 --> 00:37:13,960
Speaker 1: then the most important thing is the timing right and

806
00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:17,279
Speaker 1: saving what you need or things like that. So you

807
00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:20,880
Speaker 1: think about that during the week. So when it happens, boom,

808
00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:22,319
Speaker 1: here it is. Here's the package.

809
00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:23,280
Speaker 3: And I understand.

810
00:37:23,360 --> 00:37:25,799
Speaker 2: The first play of that last drive one for one

811
00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:28,719
Speaker 2: left to go, Rams got an incredible punt that pins

812
00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:30,960
Speaker 2: him at the one yard fine obviously, which is just

813
00:37:31,040 --> 00:37:32,840
Speaker 2: a as my dad would say.

814
00:37:32,640 --> 00:37:35,080
Speaker 1: A pisser, right, unbelievable punt.

815
00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:39,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, just unbelievable. Amazing job by him. And then they

816
00:37:39,600 --> 00:37:42,560
Speaker 2: got a hard time getting lined up with Rashid Shihed,

817
00:37:42,600 --> 00:37:45,759
Speaker 2: who's a brand new guy over to Darnold's left right,

818
00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:48,439
Speaker 2: And I mean, I guess that's the price you pay

819
00:37:48,440 --> 00:37:50,160
Speaker 2: when you're putting a guy in the game that's been

820
00:37:50,160 --> 00:37:52,040
Speaker 2: there for a week and a half. I mean, you

821
00:37:52,040 --> 00:37:54,239
Speaker 2: don't like to see things like that happen, but it

822
00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:54,920
Speaker 2: explains it.

823
00:37:55,080 --> 00:38:01,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's it. Would it would, However, I wouldn't like it.

824
00:38:01,520 --> 00:38:03,840
Speaker 1: If you know, if he's going to be in that situation,

825
00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:07,520
Speaker 1: you practice that situation. He should know. I'm not going

826
00:38:07,560 --> 00:38:09,279
Speaker 1: to listen to a bunch of excuses on that one.

827
00:38:09,600 --> 00:38:13,360
Speaker 4: Really not well, Mike McDonald said after the game, it says,

828
00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:16,759
Speaker 4: it's very clear we have a great team. And I

829
00:38:16,760 --> 00:38:18,680
Speaker 4: think that's the first time he said that we have

830
00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:20,920
Speaker 4: a great team. So maybe he got moved kind of

831
00:38:20,920 --> 00:38:23,080
Speaker 4: like softy and I did, what do you agree? Is

832
00:38:23,120 --> 00:38:24,840
Speaker 4: this a great football team?

833
00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:29,760
Speaker 1: I think it's a it's a very good football team,

834
00:38:30,160 --> 00:38:33,600
Speaker 1: and it's a playoff caliber football team. And there's a

835
00:38:33,640 --> 00:38:37,399
Speaker 1: couple of things I would like to see happen. One

836
00:38:38,520 --> 00:38:41,879
Speaker 1: we could you know this is digressing slightly, but give

837
00:38:41,960 --> 00:38:45,640
Speaker 1: Walker the ball more, get him involved, find out if

838
00:38:46,120 --> 00:38:49,560
Speaker 1: they love this receiver a lot, Get him involved. Cup

839
00:38:49,680 --> 00:38:52,359
Speaker 1: only caught one ball in that game. I think, get

840
00:38:52,440 --> 00:38:57,000
Speaker 1: him involved, you know, offensively, defensively. I think you've seen

841
00:38:57,120 --> 00:38:59,480
Speaker 1: how good they can be, and they're going to be

842
00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:03,600
Speaker 1: that way season. I think, yeah, now let's control things

843
00:39:03,640 --> 00:39:04,840
Speaker 1: a little bit more on offense.

844
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Speaker 2: Well, the Kenny Walker thing to me is perplexing. I

845
00:39:07,960 --> 00:39:09,520
Speaker 2: just I don't get it. I brought it up with you,

846
00:39:09,719 --> 00:39:11,839
Speaker 2: I think on Monday. We talked about it last week.

847
00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:14,279
Speaker 2: You know, McDonald's saying, now the Kenny Walker has shown

848
00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:16,560
Speaker 2: he deserves more carries, to which I would say, what's

849
00:39:16,560 --> 00:39:19,520
Speaker 2: he done to not deserve more carries. Maybe it's the

850
00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:21,480
Speaker 2: injury thing. Maybe they just want to keep him as

851
00:39:21,520 --> 00:39:23,600
Speaker 2: healthy as possible for the stretch run. Dick and I

852
00:39:23,680 --> 00:39:25,960
Speaker 2: talked about that, that, hey, if he's healthy in the

853
00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:28,520
Speaker 2: final month of the year and he's a huge impact,

854
00:39:28,560 --> 00:39:30,000
Speaker 2: then they might look like geniuses.

855
00:39:30,080 --> 00:39:30,239
Speaker 3: Right.

856
00:39:30,239 --> 00:39:32,719
Speaker 2: They got into seven and three in some ways kind

857
00:39:32,719 --> 00:39:35,200
Speaker 2: of almost without him being really dominant. But he's only

858
00:39:35,239 --> 00:39:37,680
Speaker 2: three hundred and ninety whatever yards away from a thousand

859
00:39:37,760 --> 00:39:40,879
Speaker 2: yard season, still very much there for him. But why

860
00:39:40,920 --> 00:39:45,000
Speaker 2: do you think it's been going down this way? Why

861
00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:48,080
Speaker 2: are they so hesitant to really, like the last drive

862
00:39:48,120 --> 00:39:50,200
Speaker 2: of the game, Kenny Walker's not even out there right,

863
00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:52,480
Speaker 2: Why are they not using him more?

864
00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:55,680
Speaker 1: You know, Dave, I don't know. I think you touched

865
00:39:55,680 --> 00:39:57,359
Speaker 1: on it a little bit, the injury thing. Maybe they're

866
00:39:57,400 --> 00:40:02,440
Speaker 1: nervous about that. I always contend that, you know, and

867
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Speaker 1: I'm not a big analytics guy, but in the preparation

868
00:40:06,040 --> 00:40:09,239
Speaker 1: for how many carries he should get, how how they

869
00:40:09,239 --> 00:40:12,360
Speaker 1: should play, those things are all analyzed and the numbers

870
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Speaker 1: are given, then some guy with a little glasses hands

871
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Speaker 1: you a note. I know, but not like those are

872
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Speaker 1: not the big thick bottle cap black Rims. Yeah, no,

873
00:40:26,080 --> 00:40:28,880
Speaker 1: so pocket protector too. I don't have a good answer

874
00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:32,439
Speaker 1: for you. I would play him and then spell him

875
00:40:32,520 --> 00:40:35,799
Speaker 1: if he gets tired, you know, I go back. But

876
00:40:35,880 --> 00:40:39,560
Speaker 1: it's different now, Seawn Alexander would played him. Momore's came

877
00:40:39,600 --> 00:40:43,920
Speaker 1: in when he got tired. Most teams now do alternate

878
00:40:44,040 --> 00:40:47,319
Speaker 1: have two backs and they're going, They're going, it's only

879
00:40:47,360 --> 00:40:50,319
Speaker 1: they're only playing one more game a year than we did.

880
00:40:51,120 --> 00:40:52,839
Speaker 1: So I don't know. I can't give you a good

881
00:40:52,880 --> 00:40:55,319
Speaker 1: answer on that. I hope they I hope they give

882
00:40:55,360 --> 00:40:57,000
Speaker 1: him the ball more coach.

883
00:40:57,040 --> 00:41:02,400
Speaker 4: If you ask the ten smartest football analysts in the country,

884
00:41:03,840 --> 00:41:06,560
Speaker 4: maybe hum Millan, ten Hu Millans. Yeah, and you asked

885
00:41:06,600 --> 00:41:10,680
Speaker 4: him who's the best team in the NFL this one year,

886
00:41:11,080 --> 00:41:14,480
Speaker 4: they might have ten different answers in what the truth?

887
00:41:14,600 --> 00:41:17,600
Speaker 4: Like why do you think that is? And is is

888
00:41:17,600 --> 00:41:18,560
Speaker 4: this going to be a trend?

889
00:41:18,600 --> 00:41:19,799
Speaker 3: I like, do you think this is?

890
00:41:20,280 --> 00:41:24,120
Speaker 4: We're gonna see more parody driven ten twelve teams can

891
00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:26,800
Speaker 4: compete for a Super Bowl championship deep into November.

892
00:41:27,200 --> 00:41:29,560
Speaker 1: Well, you know what, there was a time when the

893
00:41:30,200 --> 00:41:32,880
Speaker 1: forty nine ers and I happened to I was a

894
00:41:32,920 --> 00:41:35,319
Speaker 1: part of that We're kind of dominant for a stretch there.

895
00:41:35,719 --> 00:41:38,239
Speaker 1: Then the Cowboys were dominant for a stretch there, the

896
00:41:38,280 --> 00:41:43,080
Speaker 1: Packers early on the Patriots, and the Patriots are dominant now. Actually,

897
00:41:43,200 --> 00:41:45,400
Speaker 1: actually I kind of like it. I kind of like it.

898
00:41:45,440 --> 00:41:50,240
Speaker 1: But because strange things happen, Miami's won a couple of games.

899
00:41:50,360 --> 00:41:53,120
Speaker 1: I never thought they could had a chance of winning, right,

900
00:41:53,239 --> 00:41:56,000
Speaker 1: I don't think Tennessee has a chance of winning. I

901
00:41:56,040 --> 00:42:00,960
Speaker 1: really don't. Yeah, so I hope I'm right, But it's

902
00:42:01,120 --> 00:42:04,080
Speaker 1: just different now. And the teams that have the quarterbacks,

903
00:42:04,560 --> 00:42:06,720
Speaker 1: they're the teams are going to wind up up here.

904
00:42:06,840 --> 00:42:07,359
Speaker 7: On the top.

905
00:42:07,480 --> 00:42:09,800
Speaker 2: Well, you mentioned Tennessee and the Hawks are huge favorites.

906
00:42:09,840 --> 00:42:11,480
Speaker 2: I think you said, Dick. They've never been this big

907
00:42:11,480 --> 00:42:14,800
Speaker 2: a favorite ever on the road in franchise history. Thirteen

908
00:42:14,840 --> 00:42:16,640
Speaker 2: and a half point favorites on the road. I mean

909
00:42:16,680 --> 00:42:20,600
Speaker 2: the NFL obviously, you know games are typically close, but

910
00:42:20,760 --> 00:42:22,839
Speaker 2: Vegas thinks this is going to be a slaughter. They'd

911
00:42:22,880 --> 00:42:25,920
Speaker 2: be seventeen point favorites, if not more, if they played

912
00:42:25,920 --> 00:42:28,400
Speaker 2: at home. You ever catch guys looking past people in

913
00:42:28,440 --> 00:42:28,960
Speaker 2: the NFL?

914
00:42:29,040 --> 00:42:31,759
Speaker 1: Absolutely, we did in your locker room. Yeah we did.

915
00:42:31,840 --> 00:42:32,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, tell me about it.

916
00:42:32,800 --> 00:42:36,359
Speaker 1: The year we played Indianapolis. We were eleven and one.

917
00:42:36,560 --> 00:42:40,319
Speaker 1: They were one and eleven. Wow, And their coach got

918
00:42:40,320 --> 00:42:42,480
Speaker 1: fired at the end of the year. And we went

919
00:42:42,520 --> 00:42:47,040
Speaker 1: into an Indianapolis and we scored forty two points. It

920
00:42:47,080 --> 00:42:50,960
Speaker 1: was the highest per play yardage I ever had in

921
00:42:51,040 --> 00:42:54,200
Speaker 1: any game. We did, never punted, and we lost forty

922
00:42:54,280 --> 00:42:58,399
Speaker 1: five forty two with a third string quarterback. Their number

923
00:42:58,400 --> 00:43:02,080
Speaker 1: two guys are hurt that happen, you know. And Fritzit

924
00:43:02,080 --> 00:43:04,239
Speaker 1: Sherman and I had a really good discussion about it

925
00:43:04,239 --> 00:43:07,319
Speaker 1: the next day, you know. But it was about we

926
00:43:07,320 --> 00:43:11,239
Speaker 1: weren't we overlooked it. We weren't. That's my fault. I

927
00:43:11,600 --> 00:43:15,720
Speaker 1: never thought I'd have a team that just the fire

928
00:43:15,840 --> 00:43:18,160
Speaker 1: wasn't there because they thought we could just go in

929
00:43:18,200 --> 00:43:21,800
Speaker 1: and play right and honestly, and it's stayed. It's often

930
00:43:22,400 --> 00:43:25,080
Speaker 1: you have to be ready to play again every week

931
00:43:25,560 --> 00:43:29,440
Speaker 1: every week. Others strange otherwise strange things can happen. Is

932
00:43:29,440 --> 00:43:30,239
Speaker 1: what happened to me.

933
00:43:30,280 --> 00:43:34,160
Speaker 4: Is the letdown game less likely to happen because you

934
00:43:34,680 --> 00:43:38,239
Speaker 4: just had a tough loss that you played really well.

935
00:43:38,280 --> 00:43:40,439
Speaker 4: Is it easier to kind of get get the team

936
00:43:40,480 --> 00:43:42,799
Speaker 4: back up after a loss versus if they, you know,

937
00:43:42,840 --> 00:43:44,280
Speaker 4: want to beat somebody by twenty.

938
00:43:44,440 --> 00:43:46,640
Speaker 1: I think you have a good point tick. I think

939
00:43:46,680 --> 00:43:50,240
Speaker 1: they they yeah, they can point to that and said, Okay,

940
00:43:50,400 --> 00:43:53,359
Speaker 1: we're we're not on an eight game winning streak here.

941
00:43:53,960 --> 00:43:56,719
Speaker 1: You know, we've got some work to do and we

942
00:43:56,800 --> 00:43:59,080
Speaker 1: got to take care of business. And then just know that.

943
00:43:59,719 --> 00:44:02,040
Speaker 1: And I'm sure he said this, knowing Mike a little

944
00:44:02,040 --> 00:44:05,080
Speaker 1: bit how he operates. You got to be ready to

945
00:44:05,080 --> 00:44:07,920
Speaker 1: play every week. You got to be fired up emotionally

946
00:44:08,680 --> 00:44:11,000
Speaker 1: because every time you're gonna play against the guy that

947
00:44:11,239 --> 00:44:14,560
Speaker 1: wants it, and you know, forget about the record. And

948
00:44:14,640 --> 00:44:17,040
Speaker 1: I think he's gonna approach it that way. I don't think.

949
00:44:17,360 --> 00:44:19,640
Speaker 1: I don't think we have to worry about that. The

950
00:44:19,640 --> 00:44:24,000
Speaker 1: emotion of this defense, how his defense plays. Yep, yeah, no,

951
00:44:24,120 --> 00:44:26,759
Speaker 1: and don't throw interceptions and you should win the ball game.

952
00:44:26,760 --> 00:44:29,600
Speaker 2: How about your buddy Andy and Kansas City. They haven't

953
00:44:29,600 --> 00:44:32,680
Speaker 2: lost three in a row since before Mahomes showed up. Yeah,

954
00:44:32,719 --> 00:44:34,960
Speaker 2: and they've lost too in a row to Buffalo and Denver,

955
00:44:35,080 --> 00:44:37,040
Speaker 2: both pretty good teams. And now they have another good

956
00:44:37,040 --> 00:44:41,319
Speaker 2: team and the Colts, and their schedule is not easy man, Buffalo, Denver, Indianapolis.

957
00:44:41,320 --> 00:44:44,319
Speaker 2: Then they go to Dallas and then Houston and then

958
00:44:44,360 --> 00:44:47,480
Speaker 2: the Chargers. I mean it's not easy, but they're kind

959
00:44:47,480 --> 00:44:50,120
Speaker 2: of desperate, aren't they to win this game on Sunday.

960
00:44:50,120 --> 00:44:51,719
Speaker 3: They lose this game, they might be done.

961
00:44:51,880 --> 00:44:54,879
Speaker 1: No, they have to know you're right, and this is

962
00:44:55,480 --> 00:45:01,719
Speaker 1: very uncharacteristic for his team's there. I I think I

963
00:45:01,920 --> 00:45:05,120
Speaker 1: believe the running game is really suspect. They've got had

964
00:45:05,160 --> 00:45:11,120
Speaker 1: some injuries, which affects everybody. And then you know, sometimes

965
00:45:11,120 --> 00:45:15,120
Speaker 1: I call it the Taylor swift. Oh you know, it's

966
00:45:15,920 --> 00:45:18,160
Speaker 1: you go all of a sudden, that's the focus. You know,

967
00:45:18,160 --> 00:45:21,759
Speaker 1: all this is the beff. You know, Andy came on

968
00:45:21,800 --> 00:45:24,239
Speaker 1: the radio show, you know, the one time with me

969
00:45:25,160 --> 00:45:27,359
Speaker 1: and you, and then I asked him about that. He goes, no, no,

970
00:45:27,920 --> 00:45:31,040
Speaker 1: you know, you know that's not even an issue, and

971
00:45:31,160 --> 00:45:35,440
Speaker 1: it probably isn't an issue. But something, something's not clicking

972
00:45:35,680 --> 00:45:39,919
Speaker 1: the way it's been clicking for them for five years

973
00:45:39,920 --> 00:45:41,399
Speaker 1: and five years in a row.

974
00:45:41,440 --> 00:45:46,480
Speaker 4: Now, well you got Josh Allen tonight coach, and he

975
00:45:46,640 --> 00:45:50,279
Speaker 4: just does some magical things. He had six touchdowns last week. Yeah,

976
00:45:50,320 --> 00:45:52,640
Speaker 4: where is he as far as not not greatest quarterbacks

977
00:45:52,640 --> 00:45:53,920
Speaker 4: of all time? Because I think you need to win

978
00:45:53,960 --> 00:45:55,799
Speaker 4: super Bowls to be considered one of the greatest. But

979
00:45:56,400 --> 00:46:00,640
Speaker 4: where is he amongst the most talented quarterback you've ever seen?

980
00:46:00,719 --> 00:46:04,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, he is unbelievable. He is really unbelievable. And once

981
00:46:04,360 --> 00:46:07,200
Speaker 1: he kind of there's a good example. I think early

982
00:46:07,239 --> 00:46:10,400
Speaker 1: in his career, you know, he would throw interception, he

983
00:46:10,400 --> 00:46:14,000
Speaker 1: would do he would do stuff. Then he's grown out

984
00:46:14,000 --> 00:46:17,239
Speaker 1: of that, in my opinion, and he makes really good

985
00:46:17,280 --> 00:46:20,799
Speaker 1: decisions even though and he's a great runner, I mean good,

986
00:46:20,960 --> 00:46:24,560
Speaker 1: he's a load, you know. So I picked that was

987
00:46:24,640 --> 00:46:26,759
Speaker 1: you talk about who's going to be there at the

988
00:46:26,880 --> 00:46:29,160
Speaker 1: end in the beginning of season, I said Buffalo.

989
00:46:29,719 --> 00:46:32,439
Speaker 4: That was my team, and I had Buffalo and Green

990
00:46:32,480 --> 00:46:34,560
Speaker 4: Bay and Green Bay is not holding up their end

991
00:46:34,560 --> 00:46:34,719
Speaker 4: of the.

992
00:46:34,760 --> 00:46:37,080
Speaker 1: No, no, no, green That's another team that seems to

993
00:46:37,120 --> 00:46:40,839
Speaker 1: be yeah, no, no. To your point, teams are there's

994
00:46:40,920 --> 00:46:43,920
Speaker 1: there's just a mish mash of teams now that you

995
00:46:43,960 --> 00:46:46,960
Speaker 1: could kind of and who would have expected New England

996
00:46:46,960 --> 00:46:48,959
Speaker 1: to be nine and two, eight and two whatever they are?

997
00:46:49,400 --> 00:46:52,080
Speaker 2: You know, right, Well, he just mentioned something interesting that

998
00:46:52,160 --> 00:46:55,080
Speaker 2: you think you got to be a Super Bowl champion

999
00:46:55,120 --> 00:46:56,279
Speaker 2: to be a great quarterback.

1000
00:46:56,880 --> 00:47:01,040
Speaker 4: Marino, the greatest of all time, the greatest or one

1001
00:47:01,040 --> 00:47:02,400
Speaker 4: of the greatest of all.

1002
00:47:02,480 --> 00:47:04,600
Speaker 3: Is Dan Marino one of the greatest of all time?

1003
00:47:04,680 --> 00:47:07,480
Speaker 2: Yep in your mind yep through fourner and twenty touchdowns

1004
00:47:07,480 --> 00:47:08,720
Speaker 2: before the turn of the century.

1005
00:47:08,960 --> 00:47:10,160
Speaker 3: He is, which nobody did that.

1006
00:47:10,120 --> 00:47:14,200
Speaker 4: When I think there's a difference between greatest and most talented,

1007
00:47:14,680 --> 00:47:19,080
Speaker 4: because I think the word Okay, I think greatest encompasses Well, also,

1008
00:47:19,160 --> 00:47:20,759
Speaker 4: what's gen do get his take?

1009
00:47:21,160 --> 00:47:24,239
Speaker 3: Is Dan Marino one of the greatest quarterbacks of all time?

1010
00:47:24,320 --> 00:47:24,480
Speaker 1: Yes?

1011
00:47:24,520 --> 00:47:25,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree, you agree.

1012
00:47:26,160 --> 00:47:28,000
Speaker 1: In fact, that was one of my first games of

1013
00:47:28,040 --> 00:47:30,000
Speaker 1: the forty nine ers. We went over to London and

1014
00:47:30,040 --> 00:47:34,880
Speaker 1: played a playoff game, preseason game. My quarterbacks, Joe Montana,

1015
00:47:35,520 --> 00:47:37,919
Speaker 1: their quarterbacks, Dan Marino. I'm standing there in the middle

1016
00:47:37,920 --> 00:47:39,880
Speaker 1: of the field and Bill Walls comes over because come here,

1017
00:47:40,560 --> 00:47:44,239
Speaker 1: you know, I'm new some oh you know. He goes

1018
00:47:44,600 --> 00:47:48,560
Speaker 1: watch this guy, and I did go. He's pointing the Marino.

1019
00:47:48,600 --> 00:47:51,319
Speaker 1: He's not talking. I'm not pointing in Montana, and he goes,

1020
00:47:51,680 --> 00:47:53,359
Speaker 1: just watch how he throws, Watch how he does this.

1021
00:47:53,400 --> 00:47:53,720
Speaker 3: Wow.

1022
00:47:53,840 --> 00:47:56,320
Speaker 1: I go. And it turns out one of my daughters

1023
00:47:56,320 --> 00:48:00,279
Speaker 1: wanted me to get an autograph, not not from Joe.

1024
00:48:00,320 --> 00:48:03,120
Speaker 1: I could have gotten one from Joe from Marino and

1025
00:48:03,160 --> 00:48:04,720
Speaker 1: he gave me one. We were in the same hotel.

1026
00:48:04,840 --> 00:48:05,359
Speaker 3: I love well.

1027
00:48:05,960 --> 00:48:08,000
Speaker 4: Speaking of the Dolphins, I had to text you after

1028
00:48:08,000 --> 00:48:11,600
Speaker 4: that Miami Washington game on Sunday when both coaches, both

1029
00:48:11,680 --> 00:48:15,480
Speaker 4: coaches turned down potential game winning field goals in the

1030
00:48:15,480 --> 00:48:17,560
Speaker 4: final minutes of the game to go for it on

1031
00:48:17,680 --> 00:48:21,000
Speaker 4: fourth and goal. What is going on in this world?

1032
00:48:21,080 --> 00:48:27,040
Speaker 4: Coach glasses thick glasses, yep, analytic nerds.

1033
00:48:27,239 --> 00:48:29,279
Speaker 1: You know what. The idea of going on for it

1034
00:48:29,400 --> 00:48:32,319
Speaker 1: on fourth down in a tie game could probably have

1035
00:48:32,360 --> 00:48:35,160
Speaker 1: counted on two hands the number of times I did

1036
00:48:35,200 --> 00:48:38,359
Speaker 1: that in twenty five years. Yeah, and now it had

1037
00:48:39,040 --> 00:48:42,840
Speaker 1: it just they do it, so someone's told them it'll work.

1038
00:48:42,920 --> 00:48:44,759
Speaker 1: You know the numbers, it'll work.

1039
00:48:44,840 --> 00:48:45,560
Speaker 3: Oh yeah.

1040
00:48:46,080 --> 00:48:48,480
Speaker 2: Hey, before you go, let me get a quick thought

1041
00:48:48,480 --> 00:48:50,400
Speaker 2: from you on your favorite topic, and that's Pete Carroll.

1042
00:48:50,840 --> 00:48:52,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, two and eighth.

1043
00:48:52,360 --> 00:48:54,759
Speaker 3: With the Raiders. Never went two and eight in his

1044
00:48:54,880 --> 00:48:55,600
Speaker 3: NFL career.

1045
00:48:55,760 --> 00:48:59,160
Speaker 2: Yeah until now and struggling down there in uh in

1046
00:48:59,239 --> 00:49:03,560
Speaker 2: Las Vegas, yourself and Pete Carroll shoes, would you be thinking, man,

1047
00:49:03,719 --> 00:49:06,920
Speaker 2: this is this may have been a mistake to take

1048
00:49:06,960 --> 00:49:07,479
Speaker 2: this job.

1049
00:49:07,520 --> 00:49:10,600
Speaker 3: Maybe I should have just retired. Maybe it's passed me by.

1050
00:49:10,719 --> 00:49:12,319
Speaker 3: I don't know. How would you handle this, you think

1051
00:49:12,320 --> 00:49:12,839
Speaker 3: at that age?

1052
00:49:12,960 --> 00:49:15,160
Speaker 1: Well, I think I think once you make the decision

1053
00:49:15,239 --> 00:49:17,880
Speaker 1: to take the job, right you no, you're in, you

1054
00:49:17,920 --> 00:49:21,239
Speaker 1: commit right, you know? And so he and he's knowing

1055
00:49:21,320 --> 00:49:24,120
Speaker 1: him the way I know him. He's gonna stay next year,

1056
00:49:24,320 --> 00:49:28,680
Speaker 1: you know, he'll he's too energetic. But once you make

1057
00:49:29,120 --> 00:49:31,640
Speaker 1: you know, once you make the commitment to that team,

1058
00:49:31,640 --> 00:49:33,359
Speaker 1: you're in unless they unless they fire you.

1059
00:49:33,400 --> 00:49:35,680
Speaker 2: Well, and we got like thirty seconds. Do you think

1060
00:49:35,680 --> 00:49:37,839
Speaker 2: Mark Davis would pull the plug after a year on him?

1061
00:49:38,200 --> 00:49:38,680
Speaker 3: Is he like that?

1062
00:49:38,880 --> 00:49:39,200
Speaker 1: No?

1063
00:49:39,200 --> 00:49:39,279
Speaker 8: No?

1064
00:49:39,400 --> 00:49:43,440
Speaker 1: Okay, well he Marks Mark's a little you know. Has

1065
00:49:43,480 --> 00:49:44,719
Speaker 1: he ever seen his haircut? Yeah?

1066
00:49:44,719 --> 00:49:45,280
Speaker 3: It's terrible.

1067
00:49:45,480 --> 00:49:49,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, uh no, but he's he has pulled the trigger

1068
00:49:49,920 --> 00:49:52,279
Speaker 1: on coaches, yep, but he won't do it on this one.

1069
00:49:52,400 --> 00:49:52,799
Speaker 3: I love it.

1070
00:49:52,840 --> 00:49:54,640
Speaker 2: All right, good stuff, Hey man, we're not going to

1071
00:49:54,680 --> 00:49:56,200
Speaker 2: see you next week. Have a great Thanksgiving?

1072
00:49:56,239 --> 00:49:58,000
Speaker 3: All right? What do you mean two weeks?

1073
00:49:58,080 --> 00:49:59,319
Speaker 1: We've got nothing listening next week?

1074
00:49:59,360 --> 00:50:01,080
Speaker 3: You want to work on Thanksgiving? We'll see you here.

1075
00:50:01,200 --> 00:50:02,959
Speaker 1: How abut Jackson Parking?

1076
00:50:03,320 --> 00:50:05,160
Speaker 3: How Jackson's done? He's done?

1077
00:50:05,160 --> 00:50:08,000
Speaker 2: Through Chris we had to pay you he's finished, all right.

1078
00:50:08,000 --> 00:50:10,919
Speaker 2: Good stuff man ranks. Mike hongri with us. We're gonna

1079
00:50:10,920 --> 00:50:13,680
Speaker 2: break cracking hockey with a black Hawks pregame show with

1080
00:50:13,840 --> 00:50:15,080
Speaker 2: Mikey b coming next.

1081
00:50:15,120 --> 00:50:15,560
Speaker 3: See you by