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Speaker 1: Welcome back.

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Speaker 2: It's since he three sixty ESBN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports

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Speaker 2: station rolling along here. We've got Moegor and Quick Hits

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Speaker 2: coming up in just a few moments. But before we

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Speaker 2: get to that, Austin, we have a chance to catch

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Speaker 2: up with our good friend Bob man Jean from the

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Speaker 2: University of Cincinnati, and of course novacare kind enough to

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Speaker 2: join us right now and Austin. You might not know this,

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Speaker 2: but while we were waiting to get Bob on the

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Speaker 2: air and in, I guess since the news was broken,

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Speaker 2: I think Bob has texted me five to six times

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Speaker 2: a day with just his excitement around Mike McCarthy as

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Speaker 2: the next head coach of the Pittsburgh Steelers doesn't surprise me.

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Speaker 2: So Bob joins us. Now, Bob, how are you and

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Speaker 2: has the excitement settled at all for you with Mike

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Speaker 2: McCarthy as your next leader in Pittsburgh?

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Speaker 1: Oh No, I'm still really excited, Tony. We finally have

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Speaker 1: an offensive oriented coach. So I think that, you know, finally,

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Speaker 1: maybe they develop a quarterback and not rely on a

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Speaker 1: forty year old to try to get them into the playoffs.

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Speaker 2: Fair that's one hundred percent fair. I want to talk

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Speaker 2: to you today a little bit, Bob, about just travel.

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Speaker 2: We're in a time right now where obviously, whether it

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Speaker 2: can be a problem, it is impacting games, it's impacting schedules.

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Speaker 2: I know for you guys coming back from Arizona State,

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Speaker 2: it impacted the return trip. So from my understanding, you

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Speaker 2: guys were able to get one more practice in in

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Speaker 2: Arizona and then you fly back and it's a pretty

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Speaker 2: quick turnaround for the game against Baylor on Wednesday night.

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Speaker 2: Let me start with this from a trainer point of view,

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Speaker 2: would you rather have a quicker turnaround that you can

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Speaker 2: get the work done, get the treatment, and get back

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Speaker 2: out there, or the extended turnaround, you know, seven to

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Speaker 2: ten days in between a game as opposed to two

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Speaker 2: or three days from a trainer standpoint or from an

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Speaker 2: athlete standpoint, which one is a little bit easier to navigate.

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Speaker 1: Well, I mean, obviously, if you deal with injuries, the

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Speaker 1: longer you have to in between games gives you the

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Speaker 1: opportunity to recover and actually get the kids treating, get

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Speaker 1: them ready for the next game. Unfortunately, in basketball you

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Speaker 1: get caught playing three games in five days oftentimes and

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Speaker 1: when you get that situation, you better. You know, you've

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Speaker 1: got to kick up your game a little bit, work

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Speaker 1: a little bit harder on recovery. We actually when we

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Speaker 1: you're flying east and west, back and forth constantly, like

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Speaker 1: we're leaving today for Uston, so we're back into another

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Speaker 1: time zone. And then we went from playing the ten

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Speaker 1: o'clock game on Saturday to now ten o'clock at night,

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Speaker 1: and now we're going to play at twelve o'clock i e.

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Speaker 1: Eleven o'clock ustontime. So you really screw around with the kids' bioghythm.

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Speaker 1: And I'm a firm believer in bi rhythms, and I

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Speaker 1: think that you're trying to keep the kids as regular

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Speaker 1: the weather on top of it, it's even worse.

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Speaker 2: I was just say, how can you help a situation

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Speaker 2: like that. You mentioned treatment on a plane. You're talking

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Speaker 2: big bodies. It's not the easiest thing to do, and

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Speaker 2: those turnarounds from a late night to an early morning.

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Speaker 2: Outside of getting extra work done on the plane, what

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Speaker 2: else can you do to alleviate some of that, Because

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Speaker 2: obviously they need to get treatment, they need to get rest,

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Speaker 2: make that as normal as possible In a little bit

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Speaker 2: more of a unique travel situation.

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Speaker 1: You can keep your treatment time within a relative short

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Speaker 1: This might be the best time to do that. For example,

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Speaker 1: when we go to Houston, we play at eleven o'clock

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Speaker 1: you have to adjust your treatment schedule that unlike when

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Speaker 2: I just think of athletes and you're kind of just

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Speaker 2: normal week, you know what you normally do, and whether

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Speaker 2: football in the mix, or Monday Night football. In the mix,

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Speaker 2: you talk about college basketball and all of a sudden

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Speaker 2: you got travel delays due to weather. It's just, in

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Speaker 2: my opinion, I don't think people realize the habits that

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Speaker 2: And I don't think people quite realize how difficult it

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Speaker 2: the rest period for athletes. I oftentimes wonder this and

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Speaker 2: have talked to you before Thursday Night football in the NFL.

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Speaker 2: Now you have essentially one rest day and then you're

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Speaker 2: to that full health. So what's your overall opinion seeing

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Speaker 1: I'm not a fan, obviously. I go back to when

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Speaker 1: football every night, right because ESPN wins football games every

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Speaker 1: now all of a sudden, we got caught played on

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Speaker 1: and it makes your life miserable. There's no other way

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Speaker 1: who you're playing. You know. Probably my best story is

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Speaker 1: you may remember a time when we played Perdue on

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Speaker 1: think it was during the Tubberville's first year of which

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Speaker 1: I said, you know, why are we making this change?

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Speaker 1: And he's like, well, we're only playing Perdue, and I'm like, dude,

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Speaker 1: the bottom line is, it doesn't matter who you're playing

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Speaker 1: in the Big Ten. Big ten is physical. They're going

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Speaker 1: not going to say who they are, and they both

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Speaker 1: I think we won the Purdue game, but then we

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Speaker 1: the things that drive trainers crazy because we've abandoned, and

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Speaker 1: And you know, it's like the big bl you know,

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Speaker 1: we play at ten o'clock Saturday night, which is you know,

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Speaker 1: it's the same thing that other coaches are complaining about.

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Speaker 1: I mean the Big Ten. I'm excited we don't playing

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Speaker 1: they're fatigued, they still have other commitments with school. It's

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Speaker 1: saying you're dealing with flus and viruses and all kinds

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Speaker 2: And that's the thing with this time of the year.

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Speaker 2: The flus always happened because you're in a winter, you're

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Speaker 2: And you mentioned you're traveling to Houston. You're gonna get there,

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Speaker 2: You're gonna play eleven am Houston time. That's your body's rhythm,

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Speaker 2: your body's clock. It's just hard. And it's also hard

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Speaker 2: Your bodies aren't wired in that sense. So the timing

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Speaker 2: a of a nuance in a way of Okay, what

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Speaker 2: do you got to do? How do you adjust your schedule?

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Speaker 2: Do you wake up earlier when you get to the gym.

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Speaker 2: It's just there's so much more, I think than people

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, there's no doubt. And again, some of these

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Speaker 1: conferences just do not logically think through their schedules, and

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Speaker 1: they put way too many teams. And I'll give you

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Speaker 1: other examples, but I you know not it would take

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Speaker 1: longer than this call. But I'd give you other examples

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Speaker 1: because you know, we would have to play BYU get

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Speaker 2: I appreciate that you have always had the athlete first

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Speaker 2: point of view. Bob man Jean from the University of

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Speaker 2: and let's beat these can we beat these guys. Let's

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Speaker 1: Well, we we had a pretty good game against the

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Speaker 1: great shot. Well, make it sure.

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Speaker 2: I'm publicly putting it on you to make sure they're

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Speaker 2: ready to play on on Saturday at noon. Bob, thank

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Speaker 1: Thanks. Okay, that's up. You have a good weekend, and

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Speaker 1: it's not. Make sure you get out there and sled

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Speaker 2: That is Bob Man Jean from University in Cincinnati and Novacare.

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Speaker 2: Whether you're traveling the game, walking to your seats, or

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Speaker 2: partaking in postgame celebration, your body can take a beating

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Speaker 2: for all the activity on game day. So at Novacare

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Speaker 2: power physical there. But you don't need to let aches, pains,

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Speaker 2: or injury keep you from the game. Find a center

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Speaker 2: near you at novacare dot com. Today. Muwager's next for

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