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Speaker 1: York kind up here at four thirty. The Raiders have

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Speaker 2: Coming up at there five thirty at a great.

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Speaker 1: Conversation with James Palmer, a little inside information on Davis Web,

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Speaker 1: not only what we can expect here in Denver, but

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Speaker 1: also how it all came about. You had some really

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Speaker 1: good stuff as far as how the league views Davis Web,

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Speaker 1: how the Broncos and Broncos fan should view Davis Web as.

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Speaker 2: Now the play caller. It's gonna be good stuff. So

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Speaker 2: you'll listen to that. At five thirty.

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Speaker 1: We'll continue to take your text though five to six,

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Speaker 2: You want to interact with any of that.

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Speaker 1: Somebody chiming in here said, how does the move to

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Speaker 1: Web as play caller change the archetypes at receiver? If not,

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Speaker 1: what are the receivers that fit Shawn's offense?

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Speaker 2: Well, we have receivers that fits Shawn's offense.

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Speaker 3: If you're asking for you know the types of receivers

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Speaker 3: that fit the the air raid offense. It's it's mostly possession, guys,

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Speaker 2: You've got a bunch of possession type guys. Guys you

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Speaker 3: Some of those, you know, I would say that most

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Speaker 3: You know, the most prolific I think air raid receiver

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Speaker 2: So that to give you an idea of exactly, you know,

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Speaker 1: Well, was an air raid guy, Yeah, sure, Because I

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Speaker 1: Does the announcement of or the awareness of Davis Webb

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Speaker 1: But and maybe that's that's part probably what it is

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Speaker 3: And again, we're not going to a full air raid,

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Speaker 1: Well, and you think about in terms of the fingerprint

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Speaker 2: Maybe we might see some more pacing. Now, again, Sean's

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Speaker 1: Is he gonna say no, no, I don't want to

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Speaker 2: Or will he roll with it a little bit?

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Speaker 1: If Davis is calling a great game and they're in flow,

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Speaker 1: If there's gonna be a little bit of all right,

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Speaker 3: I think it's more likely that he stays now that

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Speaker 2: And how remarkable is that.

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Speaker 3: So Mike Garrofolo walking up, sipping the house, pipping the box.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I want to hear you're so I'm gonna.

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Speaker 2: Stuff in used like coat hangars.

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Speaker 6: You know, it was amazing how quick that transition went

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Speaker 6: it's it's it's exciting. I saw somebody posting something on

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Speaker 2: Well that's exactly what it feels like.

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Speaker 6: Right because Seawn's got one of these things and he

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Speaker 2: You may you know, he may want to get that

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Speaker 2: I should have done this with George, because George was

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Speaker 1: It's really good stuff from Mike Carafolo with NFL networker

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Speaker 1: and to get that up at KWA Colorado dot com.

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Speaker 2: Boy, it's been We've had a lot of really fun interviews.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna be bringing you another one coming up here

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Speaker 1: at the bottom of the hour of Bennie bon Signor,

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Speaker 3: I think the agents that knew already, you know, needed

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Speaker 2: They know what Sean Payton wants. Davis Web may want

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Speaker 3: So the running back position, which coincidentally is something that

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Speaker 2: I don't think it'll have a huge effect, but it may.

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Speaker 1: But I with that as a combination, because you're now

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Speaker 3: I just say, like I separate those things out. I

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Speaker 3: I can very much picture you being like, Ben, did

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Speaker 2: And that was a lot of fun.

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Speaker 1: We've got to interview up at Kocolorado dot com Ian

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Speaker 1: Yesterday we had an exclusive sit down with the Broncos

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Speaker 1: Vinnie, you know, there have been several years been where

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Speaker 1: This one seems to have been written months ago, like

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Speaker 3: It's a week class and the week quarterback class, and

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Speaker 3: Interesting, Remember that draft? Yeah, I had a quarterback and

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Speaker 3: then you know it's it's one of those things you

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Speaker 3: gotta quick.

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Speaker 1: But Sam, Sam was considered a better quarterback, like coming

443
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Speaker 1: out of home up people they were pretty right.

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Speaker 3: There were, but there also people didn't think you should

445
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Speaker 3: be the number open. A lot of people thought it

446
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Speaker 3: should have been. I believe it was a Labuka sue.

447
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Speaker 3: You know, they should have been the number one over pick,

448
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Speaker 3: that kind of stuff. So, you know, Jerald McCoy, I

449
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Speaker 3: think I think that was that draft. I'd have to

450
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Speaker 3: go back and double check that. But Sam Bradford was

451
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Speaker 3: not necessarily viewed as that guy.

452
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Speaker 2: He was just the best quarterback in a band class.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Well, without further ado, a chance to catch up

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Speaker 1: with Vinnie Bonnceignor, who of course makes many appearances on

455
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Speaker 1: Broncos Country Tonight, but it was nice to get him

456
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Speaker 1: here in person to ask about the first overall pick,

457
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Speaker 1: Banana Mendoza and how well Las Vegas Raiders fans are

458
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Speaker 1: taking that news.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I think as I get asked this often, are

460
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Speaker 7: the Raiders? Is there a possibility of one thousand percent

461
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Speaker 7: for NDA windows that will be walking through the door.

462
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Speaker 7: They're going to hand a slip of paper to the commissioner.

463
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Speaker 4: And that's as easy as it's going to be.

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Speaker 7: And when you think about the good fortune of being

465
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Speaker 7: in that position, being able to just invest a piece

466
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Speaker 7: of paper in your quarterback and a rookie contract, rather

467
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Speaker 7: than having to go trade up to go get them,

468
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Speaker 7: or trade for him, or pay forty five million dollars

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Speaker 7: to convince them to come to Las Vegas. None of

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Speaker 7: that is happening anymore. And now they could use all

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Speaker 7: their nine other draft picks and ninety six million dollars

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Speaker 7: in cap space and the equivalent in cash on building

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Speaker 7: a team around him. So this is these are new

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Speaker 7: days for the Raiders, and it starts with having access

475
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Speaker 7: to a what they think is going to be a franchised,

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Speaker 7: changing quarterback.

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Speaker 2: Well new days.

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Speaker 8: Indeed, this is the fifth head coach in five years.

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Speaker 8: I guess if you count in room, this.

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Speaker 2: One might stick.

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Speaker 3: We're a little bit more familiar with with Klink Kubiak

482
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Speaker 3: in Denver.

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Speaker 2: How has Raiders Nation received they do head coach so far?

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Speaker 7: I gotta honestly say, and I've been covering this team

485
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Speaker 7: since twenty nineteen. You know, short of John Gruden, there

486
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Speaker 7: was a consensus for John Gruden, but even at that point,

487
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Speaker 7: there wasn't necessarily.

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Speaker 4: A consensus for Derek Carr.

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Speaker 7: There was like a fifty to fifty slick of Raider

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Speaker 7: fans on their belief in Derek Carr. I've never seen

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Speaker 7: Raider Nation as unified as they are behind Clint Kubiak

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Speaker 7: and Fernando Mendoza. It's you know, they didn't like Josh

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Speaker 7: McDaniels from the get go.

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Speaker 4: They didn't.

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Speaker 7: There was luke warm reaction to Pete Carroll last year,

496
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Speaker 7: believe it or not, and maybe for the right reasons.

497
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Speaker 7: Antonio Pearce was linebacker coach for a year and a

498
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Speaker 7: half and he's going to be the head coach, so

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Speaker 7: there was some skepticism there. There is full belief in

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Speaker 7: Clint Kubiak and Frenando Mendoza in a way that I haven't.

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Speaker 4: Seen before, and we'll see if that changes anything. But

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Speaker 4: I think to your point, I think this one's going.

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Speaker 8: To stick for a little while on Bernana Mendoza.

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Speaker 1: For a moment, it seems like the opinions on him,

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Speaker 1: I would say, all over the place.

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Speaker 8: But there are some people that see, hey, the upside

507
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Speaker 8: looks like it could be there.

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Speaker 2: He could be a long time star in the league.

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Speaker 8: There's some people that are maybe a little more tepid

510
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Speaker 8: in their response.

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Speaker 4: What have you thought of that?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I was a little bit of a skeptic, But

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Speaker 7: then about midway through last year, I said, Okay, I

514
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Speaker 7: guess I got to start paying attention to Fnana Mendoza

515
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Speaker 7: over at Indiana. I saw him a few times at Callum.

516
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Speaker 7: I felt like he was a pretty good quarterback there.

517
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Speaker 7: But I have to say that from when I caught

518
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Speaker 7: up with him maybe halfway through the season, and from

519
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Speaker 7: that point on, he just kept getting better. He rose

520
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Speaker 7: to the occasion when they he didn't arise the occasion.

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Speaker 7: He was tough, He can make all the throws, he

522
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Speaker 7: was accurate. I felt like watching him play and talking

523
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Speaker 7: to people that know this way more than I do.

524
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Speaker 7: The fact that he was winning battles before this ball

525
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Speaker 7: was even snapped, understanding where to go with the ball

526
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Speaker 7: based on the coverage. I was really impressed, and for

527
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Speaker 7: me and talking to other people, he's as clean up

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Speaker 7: prospect as I've seen in a while.

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Speaker 1: Now.

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Speaker 7: That doesn't mean that he has, you know, the all

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Speaker 7: world athletic ability that maybe some other you know players have,

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Speaker 7: or the all world arm that others have.

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Speaker 4: But when you.

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Speaker 7: Combine his intelligence, his demeanor, his accuracy, his ability to

535
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Speaker 7: win at the line of scrimmage, you're talking about a

536
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Speaker 7: pretty clean prospect of somebody that there's really no reason

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Speaker 7: short of the Raiders failing him, there's really no reason

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Speaker 7: that he can't succeed at a high level.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, everybody who's ever met him loves him. You of

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Speaker 3: him as a person, whether you love him as a

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Speaker 3: prospect or not. You know, another guy that everybody was

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Speaker 3: in love with last year was Ashton Janny.

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Speaker 8: He didn't really have the year. I think a lot

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Speaker 8: of people thought he would have.

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Speaker 3: Do you expect that to pick up a Kakubiak and

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Speaker 3: could they go out there and maybe pair him with

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Speaker 3: a Kenneth Walker for a nice one two punch for

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Speaker 3: from Netta Mendoza.

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Speaker 7: That's interesting you bring that up because we just got

550
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Speaker 7: finished talking to Flint Kuba acause he talked about how

551
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Speaker 7: he likes to share that load and doesn't want to

552
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Speaker 7: put everything on one running back.

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Speaker 4: So might be something to keep an eye on for sure.

554
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Speaker 7: And I'll say this, it was nothing short of miraculous

555
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Speaker 7: that Ashton did what Ashon did last year. I mean,

556
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Speaker 7: if you look at the numbers, they weren't that bad,

557
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Speaker 7: even though it was the offensive line was was beyond bad.

558
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Speaker 7: And there were a lot of different reasons for that, injuries,

559
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Speaker 7: coaching players that just weren't quite ready.

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Speaker 4: But he put together a pretty good year.

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Speaker 7: And I always go back to twenty sixteen, the first

562
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Speaker 7: year that the Rams were back in Los Angeles. I

563
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Speaker 7: was covering the rounds at the time and they were

564
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Speaker 7: just terrible. Todd Gurley had like eight hundred something yards.

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Speaker 7: I remember in Los Angeles people were like, we waited

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Speaker 7: twenty years for this, Send it back to Saint Louis.

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Speaker 4: Well, then they went out and got Sean McVay. Then

568
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Speaker 4: they went out and got Andrew Wood.

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Speaker 7: Where a they signed Robert was a draft Cooper Cup

570
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Speaker 7: and all of a sudden, Todd Gurley's game in fifteen

571
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Speaker 7: hundred yards and back to being Todd Gurley Offensive Player

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Speaker 7: of the Year. They win ten to eleven games and

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Speaker 7: win their division. So I feel like Ashton Genty is

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Speaker 7: along those lines. I think he's a future Offensive Player

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Speaker 7: of the Year candidate. Just put a better offensive line

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Speaker 7: in front of him, a better coaching, a better quarterback,

577
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Speaker 7: and more weapons, much like they did with Jared Goffs

578
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Speaker 7: and Todd Gurley in twenty sixteen to twenty seventeen, and

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Speaker 7: I think Ashton genty is.

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Speaker 2: Going to be just fine all our last one.

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Speaker 8: For me, what's a successful season short of Super Bowl?

582
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Speaker 8: Obviously all teams you're rooting or shooting for that. But

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Speaker 8: you got a new coach, you got a new quarterback.

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Speaker 2: What are the expectations I guess in February of the Raiders.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I do believe that they're taking a healthy approach

586
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Speaker 7: to this season. It's very much less about twenty twenty

587
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Speaker 7: six in terms of wins and losses and much more

588
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Speaker 7: about twenty twenty seven and beyond.

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Speaker 4: But I think that for progress.

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Speaker 7: First of all, for Guando Mendoza needs to show that Okay, yeah,

591
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Speaker 7: this is a guy that you can truly build around.

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Speaker 7: Clint Kubiak needs to be part of some solutions and

593
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Speaker 7: making an offense that has been morbid the last few

594
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Speaker 7: years acceptable. I mean, I remember when they were averaging

595
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Speaker 7: nineteen points a game with Josh mccaniel's toward the end

596
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Speaker 7: of his tenure and Antonio Piers like they can't get it.

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Speaker 4: Well, it got worse.

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Speaker 7: They average fourteen points a game last year, right, how

599
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Speaker 7: did that happen? So anyway, bringing the offense up to

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Speaker 7: sum level of standard, and I think if they could

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Speaker 7: show that sort of progress, then the season can be

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Speaker 7: a s access even though I don't believe that it's

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Speaker 7: going to necessarily be shown and wins or losses.

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Speaker 2: This one for me? What is the Las Vegas Raider

605
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Speaker 2: fan perception of bon Nicks?

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Speaker 3: I mean, you look at the Broncos fans, I think

607
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Speaker 3: they feel like he's disrespected nationally.

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Speaker 2: What's what's the in division feeling on Bonix?

609
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Speaker 7: I think there's a respect for Bnix, but I think

610
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Speaker 7: that I think Raider fans are looking at this as

611
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Speaker 7: they believe for Nanda Mendoza, for a lot of different reasons.

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Speaker 4: Is a superior prospect.

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Speaker 7: So if the Denver Broncos can get to the n

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Speaker 7: or AFC Championship game with Boenix as their quarterback, what's

615
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Speaker 7: possible with a quarterback that I think Raider fans believe

616
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Speaker 7: is going to be better than he is. So you're

617
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Speaker 7: starting off with a better starting point potentially. Now it's

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Speaker 7: again on the on the organization to do right around him,

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Speaker 7: much like the Broncos have done around him.

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Speaker 4: And I'm curious from.

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Speaker 7: You guys' perspective, real quick, Davis Webb, who who the

622
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Speaker 7: Raiders kind of identified, right, I think they were the

623
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Speaker 7: first team to reach out to interview him for a

624
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Speaker 7: head coaching job. How much excitement is there for Davis

625
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Speaker 7: web getting to call place because I would imagine and

626
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Speaker 7: it's pretty happy about.

627
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Speaker 4: This, I think he is.

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Speaker 3: I mean, you could see on the sidelines a couple

629
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Speaker 3: of times last year bo Next gesturing over there, speeded

630
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Speaker 3: up getting ruddy, and you know he's in the huddle

631
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Speaker 3: looking back things like that.

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Speaker 9: So I think that there's, at least from my end,

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Speaker 9: I think there's there's a general happiness that he's going

634
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Speaker 9: to be doing that maybe bring a little modernization to

635
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Speaker 9: a well designed but maybe a bit archaic and principal offense.

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Speaker 4: Didn't Sean was he asked to make this change or

637
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Speaker 4: I'm very curious.

638
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Speaker 8: About that, Sean says, it's Shawn's idea.

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Speaker 1: All right, good for him, A right, Vinny appreciate you,

640
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Speaker 1: thank you, thank you, all right, always get stuff from Vinny. Yeah, well,

641
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Speaker 1: and that that is the speculation wondering if if Sean

642
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Speaker 1: completely independently came up with the idea to have Davis

643
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Speaker 1: Webb as the play caller.

644
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Speaker 2: That is certainly what Sean wants to everybody to believe.

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Speaker 1: It's a lot of us, a lot of conversations we've

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Speaker 1: I've been asked several times out here if i mean

647
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Speaker 1: even this morning when I was one around seeing people

648
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Speaker 1: that I see out here at the end for combine

649
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Speaker 1: every single year.

650
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Speaker 2: So what did you make of that? And then how

651
00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:07,920
Speaker 2: much of that was going to be asked of instead

652
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Speaker 2: of But once again, they can't see the face I'm making. Yeah,

653
00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:13,159
Speaker 2: they could not.

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Speaker 1: But if if you're the Broncos, it's it's in your

655
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Speaker 1: best interest to have it presented the way that it was.

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Speaker 2: That's in Shann's best interest to present the way that

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Speaker 2: it is.

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Speaker 3: It is honestly in Davis Web's best interest to portray that,

659
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Speaker 3: because do you really want a media hovering around Davis Webble?

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Speaker 2: Ye're saying, hey, you know so and so it.

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Speaker 3: Was when did you or the quarterback pushed for you

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Speaker 3: to you know, get this guys our you know Bonix

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Speaker 3: answering questions about that every week.

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Speaker 2: That's the last thing we want.

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Speaker 3: And if he has a bad game, Yeah, is listening

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Speaker 3: to the you know, the quarterback doing this thing that

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Speaker 3: you know, you don't want those questions out there, You

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Speaker 3: don't want those being asked. It's just it's best for everybody,

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Speaker 3: even if it's not technically correct to have it that way.

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Speaker 1: Well, and Sean in the in the midst of it,

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Speaker 1: you know, if we're playing this forward just saves the

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Speaker 1: face too.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's let's say, it's best for everybody. Yeah, no,

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Speaker 2: no doubt about it, all right, five six zero.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, we're talking of any a moment ago, not

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Speaker 1: only about the first overall pick, which obviously would be

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Speaker 1: Fernanda Mendoz. I'm glad you asked him about sort of

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Speaker 1: the Raiders placement and I of course asked him as well,

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Speaker 1: but the Raiders' placement in the.

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Speaker 2: AFC West and how they view themselves right now, And you.

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Speaker 1: Know, he said, well, this year is about proof of concept,

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Speaker 1: which makes sense more so than wins.

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Speaker 2: And losses.

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Speaker 1: This is just are you improving, are you heading in

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Speaker 1: the right direction? Are you competitive? O? My god, how

686
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Speaker 1: many games where the Raiders not even in competitive in games?

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Speaker 2: Those are like the steps for now you might pleasantly surprise.

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Speaker 1: You know, we talked about the NFL, where every team,

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Speaker 1: maybe not every team, a lot of teams believe they

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Speaker 1: could be competitive and maybe even push for a championship.

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Speaker 1: It doesn't feel like that's where the Raiders' mindset is

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Speaker 1: as they enter camp. It's going to be more of

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Speaker 1: a let's just kind of where things go. See if

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Speaker 1: Fernando can prove that he's the guy, that he can

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Speaker 1: be the guy into year two and that he can

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Speaker 1: continue to improve. But the fact is he said it

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Speaker 1: to you, Raiders fans things, Fernando already is better than

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Speaker 1: bo Nicks.

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Speaker 2: They do, and I think they're mistaken in that, but

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Speaker 2: we'll see.

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Speaker 3: You know, I think he's right about this being a

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Speaker 3: proof of concept here, and that's what they have to

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Speaker 3: convince Max Crosby off. They got to have to sit

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Speaker 3: down with him and convince him, hey, look, this is

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Speaker 3: what we're trying to do. Stay on board for the year.

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Speaker 3: If you don't like it, then we'll move you at the.

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Speaker 2: End of the year. That's the conversation they need to

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Speaker 2: have with him, and that's after they get out of here.

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Speaker 3: That's the direction because they haven't had to sit down

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Speaker 3: with him. They've had a conversation, but not that conversation.

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Speaker 3: And so that's why I think a lot of this

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Speaker 3: stuff about trading Max Crosby is also a little premature.

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Speaker 3: When it comes to that day, they do want to

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Speaker 3: go out and try to take a run at Kenny Walker.

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Speaker 3: You had Kenneth Walker and Ashton Jenny in the same backfield.

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Speaker 3: All of a sudden, min knowsa doesn't have to rely

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Speaker 3: on himself as much. And I don't think a lot

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Speaker 3: of quarterbacks have that kind of walk into a situation

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Speaker 3: where you've got.

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Speaker 2: To see a binkie, a safety blanket in Rock Bauers

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Speaker 2: and a one two punch in a Ashton Janny and

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Speaker 2: maybe a.

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Speaker 3: Kenneth Walker right behind him. That's that's that's how I mean,

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Speaker 3: that's you know, that's a pretty tough look. They still

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Speaker 3: need to improve their offensive line. Well, they've got to

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Speaker 3: fix the line. They've got to fix the receivers. Having

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Speaker 3: Jack bash as you're number one is not something that

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Speaker 3: you can realistically go into a season with. They've got

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Speaker 3: some nice prospects there in the receiving court, but you're

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Speaker 3: probably a year away from those guys being viable.

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Speaker 2: You have to figure that out, you know, as far

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Speaker 2: as far that stuff goes too. So there are there

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Speaker 2: are some things that need to fix.

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Speaker 3: They've got ninety eight million dollars in cash base currently

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Speaker 3: to be able to make that happen.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they basically treated Trey Tucker as a one last

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Speaker 1: year and that's yeah, that's not a good ice shot

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Speaker 1: what he is. And they had more tackles for loss

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Speaker 1: I want to say for the running back, Like they

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Speaker 1: had more runs of zero negative yards than any other team,

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Speaker 1: but like a lot, like like thirty percent of their

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Speaker 1: runs went for either zero or negative yards.

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Speaker 2: So some of that's coaching.

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Speaker 3: So that's personnel. I mean, Alex cap has got nothing

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Speaker 3: left in the tank. I mean basically they've got Colton

746
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Speaker 3: Miller and need to rebuild the line, you know. I mean,

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Speaker 3: that's that's where they're at.

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Speaker 2: And I think I'm with you over.

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Speaker 1: I'm curious to see Fernanda Mendoza. I do think Clint

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Speaker 1: Kobiyak is a good pairing for him. So as much

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Speaker 1: as again here in broadcos country, we don't like to

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Speaker 1: acknowledge the Raiders ever doing anything good. I actually do

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Speaker 1: think that that makes some sense. But if for Nanda

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Speaker 1: Mendoza is what you say, and some other people also

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Speaker 1: agree and echo that they don't see the upside of

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Speaker 1: a guy that they can be that kind of caliber

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Speaker 1: quarterback that's gonna go toe to toe with Mahomes and

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Speaker 1: Herbert and bow Nicks, well then this might end up

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Speaker 1: being a bit of a bus for them too.

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Speaker 2: There's the other side of this maybe.

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Speaker 3: But again, you're you know, at this point, you're desperate,

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Speaker 3: and you've got the number one overall picks, so you're

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Speaker 3: gonna roll the dice on it.

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Speaker 2: That's not the way I would I would have done it.

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Speaker 3: I would have traded out of there, tried to get

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Speaker 3: the jets of the Cardinals to come up and trade

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Speaker 3: it out of it, taking up you know, King's ransom,

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Speaker 3: and then rolled those picks into the next year and

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Speaker 3: been in prime position you know, for for some for

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Speaker 3: one of the great quarterbacks that look like to coming

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Speaker 3: out next year.

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Speaker 2: But you know, I mean, I get it. The end

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Speaker 2: of the day.

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Speaker 3: I think he compares favorably to like a you know,

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Speaker 3: kind of a poor man's Kirk Cousins. We'll see, but

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Speaker 3: I'm not as sold on in those as you know,

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Speaker 3: certainly their fan bases.

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Speaker 1: Five six six nine zero KA with common spread Health

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Speaker 1: text line. A couple of questions coming in about Davis Webb.

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Speaker 1: We'll get to those when we come back. We're gonna

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Speaker 1: hear from James Palmer coming to bit five thirty. By

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Speaker 1: the way, in that interview, he says that the Davis

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Speaker 1: Webb really impressed in his head coaching interviews around the

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Speaker 1: league with Buffalo and with the Raiders. It's not to

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Speaker 1: say that he was going to get either of those jobs,

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Speaker 1: but he had did enough in those interviews that he

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Speaker 1: would have been probably earmarked as a guy that we're

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Speaker 1: we're gonna take a serious look at, or maybe gotten

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Speaker 1: some rumors around the league that if nothing else, by next.

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Speaker 3: Year, yeah he's gonna get his name's gonna be up

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Speaker 3: the next couple of years. And so if it's not

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Speaker 3: this year, not next year, it could be you know,

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Speaker 3: it could be soon though for Davis Webs, right, we'll.

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Speaker 2: Talk about that when we come back.

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Speaker 1: We're live from the twenty twenty six NFL Combine here

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Speaker 1: in Indianapolis.

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Speaker 2: Right over're Benjamin Allbright. This is Kawa,