1 00:00:00,520 --> 00:00:05,520 Speaker 1: It's Night Side with Dan Ray I WBS Radio. 2 00:00:05,880 --> 00:00:08,160 Speaker 2: Well to thank my guest last hour of Bostony council 3 00:00:08,280 --> 00:00:10,559 Speaker 2: Ed Flynn. We talked about and we're going to continue 4 00:00:10,560 --> 00:00:15,320 Speaker 2: to talk about retail thefts. Retail thefts at Boston stores 5 00:00:15,560 --> 00:00:19,000 Speaker 2: and has come to the four in the last few 6 00:00:19,079 --> 00:00:24,600 Speaker 2: days with repeated retail thefts by a group of young people. 7 00:00:24,640 --> 00:00:27,040 Speaker 2: I'm not gonna call them kids, although I sometimes slip 8 00:00:27,080 --> 00:00:32,120 Speaker 2: into that people who have no respect for the work 9 00:00:32,520 --> 00:00:34,720 Speaker 2: that the people in the store do. They go in 10 00:00:34,720 --> 00:00:37,760 Speaker 2: and they just scoop as much off. Lulu Lemon is 11 00:00:37,760 --> 00:00:42,120 Speaker 2: a high end store, so they have high end quality products. 12 00:00:42,520 --> 00:00:44,680 Speaker 2: If you're going to steal anywhere from where, I guess 13 00:00:44,680 --> 00:00:47,280 Speaker 2: you're gonna pick a Lulu Lemon. These are on Newberry Street. 14 00:00:47,800 --> 00:00:51,680 Speaker 2: It's going to adversely impact other stores on Newbury Street. 15 00:00:51,720 --> 00:00:54,080 Speaker 2: I read today saw one of the articles today that 16 00:00:54,120 --> 00:00:59,080 Speaker 2: there was a store that had pottery on display outdoors 17 00:00:59,080 --> 00:01:02,440 Speaker 2: and kids were walking and just taking the pottery. That 18 00:01:02,960 --> 00:01:06,000 Speaker 2: young people young people. Okay, that's not to say that 19 00:01:06,120 --> 00:01:09,040 Speaker 2: older people might not do the same thing, but in 20 00:01:09,120 --> 00:01:11,440 Speaker 2: terms of the video that we have seen of these 21 00:01:12,200 --> 00:01:16,600 Speaker 2: gangs who come in, uh and just we've seen smash 22 00:01:16,640 --> 00:01:20,040 Speaker 2: and grab and other communities. You've seen across the country 23 00:01:20,720 --> 00:01:23,960 Speaker 2: people going in twenty fifteen twenty people going in and 24 00:01:24,080 --> 00:01:28,679 Speaker 2: overwhelming a jewelry store and smashing and just grabbing whatever 25 00:01:28,720 --> 00:01:29,080 Speaker 2: they want. 26 00:01:29,760 --> 00:01:29,880 Speaker 3: Uh. 27 00:01:30,120 --> 00:01:33,360 Speaker 2: This is why when you go to your local pharmacy 28 00:01:33,480 --> 00:01:38,520 Speaker 2: or your local CBS, so your Walgreen, and you try 29 00:01:38,560 --> 00:01:40,440 Speaker 2: to get a tube of toothpaste, you have to get 30 00:01:40,480 --> 00:01:42,480 Speaker 2: the person who unlock the tube of toothpaste because it 31 00:01:42,520 --> 00:01:46,360 Speaker 2: costs eight bucks or nine bucks or whatever. Six one seven, two, five, 32 00:01:46,400 --> 00:01:50,880 Speaker 2: four ten thirty six one seven, nine three one ten 33 00:01:51,000 --> 00:01:54,080 Speaker 2: thirty Those are the two numbers. And as they say, 34 00:01:54,120 --> 00:01:58,000 Speaker 2: we talked about the Lululemon theft's last hour, I want 35 00:01:58,040 --> 00:02:01,440 Speaker 2: to hear from some some female callers. So far we've 36 00:02:01,440 --> 00:02:03,120 Speaker 2: had a lot of mame callers. Let's hear from the 37 00:02:03,120 --> 00:02:06,920 Speaker 2: female callers as well. This is going to affect prices 38 00:02:06,960 --> 00:02:09,520 Speaker 2: in stores that are besized. And this has been happening 39 00:02:09,560 --> 00:02:12,080 Speaker 2: to Lululemon stores by the way around the country and 40 00:02:12,200 --> 00:02:14,720 Speaker 2: also up into Canada for the last year. They are 41 00:02:14,760 --> 00:02:17,400 Speaker 2: being targeted. What are they going to do? I made 42 00:02:17,400 --> 00:02:19,760 Speaker 2: a suggestion. No one seemed well except Joe and Lynn. 43 00:02:19,840 --> 00:02:22,200 Speaker 2: Let me go to John and Brookline. John next on nightside, 44 00:02:22,240 --> 00:02:28,320 Speaker 2: Go right ahead? Is John there? If we can put 45 00:02:28,360 --> 00:02:30,360 Speaker 2: them on hold? If we have to, let's put them 46 00:02:30,360 --> 00:02:32,120 Speaker 2: on hold and we'll come back to John in a moment. 47 00:02:32,280 --> 00:02:33,959 Speaker 2: Wasn't ready. Let's go to Chris down in the Cape. 48 00:02:34,040 --> 00:02:36,760 Speaker 2: Chris on Cape Corn, Go right ahead, Chris. 49 00:02:36,880 --> 00:02:41,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, Hi, Dan, as well as intended as your suggestion 50 00:02:41,400 --> 00:02:45,079 Speaker 3: is to lock the door before they get out, Yeah, 51 00:02:45,200 --> 00:02:48,480 Speaker 3: I think that you'd be basically facing a false imprisonment, 52 00:02:48,840 --> 00:02:52,760 Speaker 3: and God forbid, the real customers in the store that 53 00:02:52,880 --> 00:03:00,000 Speaker 3: intend to shop and pay are then imprisoned with the criminals. 54 00:02:59,360 --> 00:03:02,440 Speaker 2: Well, okay, well let me give you let me let 55 00:03:02,520 --> 00:03:04,760 Speaker 2: me turn it around on you. Let's assume you're a 56 00:03:04,800 --> 00:03:07,959 Speaker 2: store owner and you have this ability, and you see 57 00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:10,920 Speaker 2: a couple of people get out of a car with 58 00:03:11,160 --> 00:03:16,600 Speaker 2: guns walking towards your door. Do you think that that 59 00:03:17,080 --> 00:03:21,400 Speaker 2: procedure of locking the doors, uh would be as onerous? 60 00:03:23,280 --> 00:03:23,360 Speaker 4: No? 61 00:03:23,440 --> 00:03:25,520 Speaker 3: I think you lock them out before they get in. 62 00:03:25,639 --> 00:03:29,160 Speaker 2: But you were you're still you're still waste, You've still imprisoned. 63 00:03:29,160 --> 00:03:32,120 Speaker 2: Then you're arguing the people who are customers in the store, 64 00:03:32,240 --> 00:03:34,800 Speaker 2: you've imprisoned. You're you're trying to argue that that we've 65 00:03:34,840 --> 00:03:37,960 Speaker 2: imprisoned people in the store. So what I'm saying is 66 00:03:38,200 --> 00:03:42,360 Speaker 2: you could you under your theory, we could lock people 67 00:03:43,000 --> 00:03:46,560 Speaker 2: in the store to prevent thieves from coming in, but 68 00:03:46,640 --> 00:03:49,800 Speaker 2: we can't lock people in the store prevent to prevent 69 00:03:49,920 --> 00:03:55,400 Speaker 2: thieves from leaving with with with items of great. 70 00:03:55,240 --> 00:03:59,560 Speaker 3: Value, but they don't leave the store. You're suggesting that 71 00:04:00,920 --> 00:04:03,960 Speaker 3: if they have an armful of goods and are heading 72 00:04:04,000 --> 00:04:08,440 Speaker 3: to the door, as I understood your yes, exactly. 73 00:04:08,040 --> 00:04:09,280 Speaker 2: You understood exactly. 74 00:04:09,440 --> 00:04:12,640 Speaker 3: That's correct, and there's no theft until they leave the 75 00:04:12,680 --> 00:04:15,520 Speaker 3: plane of the store, because you have to prove, from 76 00:04:15,520 --> 00:04:21,200 Speaker 3: a prosecutor's standpoint, an intent to permanently deprive the owner 77 00:04:21,240 --> 00:04:21,800 Speaker 3: of the store. 78 00:04:22,120 --> 00:04:24,880 Speaker 2: Oh, I think that if you've seen any of the 79 00:04:24,960 --> 00:04:27,880 Speaker 2: videos lately, it's pretty clear what the intent of those 80 00:04:28,160 --> 00:04:30,599 Speaker 2: young people are. But that's okay. I understand the point 81 00:04:30,680 --> 00:04:32,560 Speaker 2: you're making, and I'm sure that there would be some 82 00:04:32,600 --> 00:04:35,920 Speaker 2: defense lawyers who would jump to the opportunity to defend 83 00:04:35,960 --> 00:04:41,039 Speaker 2: some young felons. But at some point in time, once 84 00:04:41,080 --> 00:04:44,480 Speaker 2: they're out of the store, they're gone forever. You do 85 00:04:44,600 --> 00:04:45,200 Speaker 2: understand the. 86 00:04:45,160 --> 00:04:49,560 Speaker 3: Reality, Well, if they had I think that there are 87 00:04:51,000 --> 00:04:55,160 Speaker 3: measures that could be taken. Like was previously indicated, that 88 00:04:56,200 --> 00:05:00,600 Speaker 3: you either have a security guard that has proper authority 89 00:05:00,640 --> 00:05:04,000 Speaker 3: to make arrests once the theft has taken place, and 90 00:05:04,040 --> 00:05:06,320 Speaker 3: it doesn't take place until they're out the door. 91 00:05:08,920 --> 00:05:12,760 Speaker 2: I think that when you see someone with fifteen or 92 00:05:12,800 --> 00:05:17,800 Speaker 2: twenty items running towards the door, I think you can, 93 00:05:18,560 --> 00:05:23,360 Speaker 2: a reasonable person can that they were not running towards 94 00:05:23,360 --> 00:05:25,320 Speaker 2: the door to try them on out of the street. 95 00:05:25,320 --> 00:05:28,000 Speaker 2: They were running towards the door to leave the premises 96 00:05:28,120 --> 00:05:29,200 Speaker 2: with the items. 97 00:05:30,360 --> 00:05:34,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, but then you lock them in with the other customers. 98 00:05:33,760 --> 00:05:36,960 Speaker 3: And that's the problem I have. And I know it's 99 00:05:37,000 --> 00:05:41,120 Speaker 3: well intended, but I would also suggest that you know 100 00:05:41,400 --> 00:05:45,240 Speaker 3: you're putting innocent consumers and the employees at risk by 101 00:05:46,120 --> 00:05:51,080 Speaker 3: keeping the criminals in the door once you saw them 102 00:05:51,200 --> 00:05:52,640 Speaker 3: leaving or attempting to. 103 00:05:53,240 --> 00:05:55,800 Speaker 2: Understand the point you're making. But we have reached a 104 00:05:55,880 --> 00:05:59,600 Speaker 2: point in society here where things are just breaking down, okay, 105 00:06:00,080 --> 00:06:05,520 Speaker 2: and I think that sometimes you have to think outside 106 00:06:05,560 --> 00:06:08,799 Speaker 2: the box, and even the thread of that might convince 107 00:06:08,880 --> 00:06:13,039 Speaker 2: some of these young thieves that it's not a good 108 00:06:13,080 --> 00:06:16,159 Speaker 2: idea to go into a store and run out. We've 109 00:06:16,160 --> 00:06:18,560 Speaker 2: seen it. Look, you've seen. Let me ask you this. 110 00:06:18,839 --> 00:06:21,880 Speaker 2: Let's assume I saw a video the other day of 111 00:06:21,960 --> 00:06:25,000 Speaker 2: a jewelry store in Los Angeles about fifteen or twenty 112 00:06:25,080 --> 00:06:28,920 Speaker 2: kids young people came in through the door. They smashed 113 00:06:29,120 --> 00:06:37,400 Speaker 2: the glass display cases, and they were grabbing whatever they 114 00:06:37,400 --> 00:06:43,880 Speaker 2: could possibly grab. Now, let's assume that those they were 115 00:06:43,920 --> 00:06:45,919 Speaker 2: able to lock the door. Do you think that a 116 00:06:46,000 --> 00:06:49,760 Speaker 2: prosecutor wouldn't be able to prosecute the people who smashed 117 00:06:49,760 --> 00:06:52,560 Speaker 2: the cases and then had grabbed things out of the 118 00:06:52,640 --> 00:06:56,480 Speaker 2: cases for attempted to steal. 119 00:06:57,640 --> 00:07:01,320 Speaker 3: No, I think that that would be a perfectly reasonable prosecution. 120 00:07:01,520 --> 00:07:03,359 Speaker 2: What I'm saying, so, what is the difference then, What 121 00:07:03,480 --> 00:07:07,120 Speaker 2: is the difference between the individual comes in with a hammer, 122 00:07:07,920 --> 00:07:14,000 Speaker 2: breaks glass, grabs items, and heads to the door, and 123 00:07:14,040 --> 00:07:17,120 Speaker 2: the door comes and closes as somebody who comes in 124 00:07:17,480 --> 00:07:20,800 Speaker 2: and grabs with three for other people grabbing fifteen or 125 00:07:20,840 --> 00:07:23,080 Speaker 2: twenty dresses and is running towards the door. 126 00:07:25,120 --> 00:07:29,800 Speaker 3: I think there's a distinction there because you're actually, you know, 127 00:07:31,240 --> 00:07:36,280 Speaker 3: committing you know, malicious destruction and other issues. But my 128 00:07:36,360 --> 00:07:39,360 Speaker 3: only point is I think your point is well intended. 129 00:07:39,360 --> 00:07:42,240 Speaker 3: But I think that going to the bank robber or 130 00:07:42,320 --> 00:07:47,640 Speaker 3: the bank teller that installing a buzzer that's a direct 131 00:07:47,640 --> 00:07:52,040 Speaker 3: line to the police might be a safer safeguard and 132 00:07:52,080 --> 00:07:54,480 Speaker 3: if they get out, they get out. But at the 133 00:07:54,480 --> 00:07:56,040 Speaker 3: same time, I don't think it can. 134 00:07:56,800 --> 00:07:59,600 Speaker 2: I do understand the concern that you have. I get it, 135 00:07:59,720 --> 00:08:03,600 Speaker 2: but I'm I like to think outside the box. And 136 00:08:03,600 --> 00:08:06,360 Speaker 2: I guess by thinking outside the box, I get intelligent 137 00:08:06,440 --> 00:08:09,480 Speaker 2: callers like you to call and uh and disagree with me, 138 00:08:09,560 --> 00:08:12,040 Speaker 2: which is which is part of what this program is 139 00:08:12,080 --> 00:08:13,960 Speaker 2: supposed to be about. Different points of view. So I 140 00:08:14,040 --> 00:08:16,040 Speaker 2: thank you for calling, kid, Chris, you know that. 141 00:08:16,200 --> 00:08:19,840 Speaker 3: Okay, okay, thank you much, great Dren, thank you. 142 00:08:20,040 --> 00:08:23,280 Speaker 2: Good night, Welcome back, and John from Brookline will be up. 143 00:08:23,320 --> 00:08:25,600 Speaker 2: He'll be leaning off right after the break on one line, 144 00:08:25,640 --> 00:08:31,400 Speaker 2: Open six, one seven. Coming right back on night Side. 145 00:08:30,760 --> 00:08:35,920 Speaker 1: Night Side with Dan Ray. I'm Bzy Boston's news Radio. 146 00:08:37,120 --> 00:08:39,360 Speaker 2: Back to the phones we go. We're gonna try John 147 00:08:39,400 --> 00:08:42,160 Speaker 2: and Brookline one more time. Hey, John, welcome back. How 148 00:08:42,200 --> 00:08:42,520 Speaker 2: are you? 149 00:08:43,800 --> 00:08:44,400 Speaker 3: Yeah? 150 00:08:45,040 --> 00:08:45,800 Speaker 2: John? Are you there? 151 00:08:46,880 --> 00:08:47,120 Speaker 3: Yeah? 152 00:08:47,160 --> 00:08:49,160 Speaker 4: I can have it here, but we'll give it a try. 153 00:08:50,000 --> 00:08:54,320 Speaker 4: Go right ahead, John, Yeah, your idea is is work 154 00:08:54,360 --> 00:08:57,720 Speaker 4: of a little risky uh huh years ago. I'm talking 155 00:08:57,800 --> 00:09:01,760 Speaker 4: fifty years ago. It was come he called sonotrol and 156 00:09:01,800 --> 00:09:05,320 Speaker 4: I think they're gone now. But they had a machine 157 00:09:05,320 --> 00:09:06,040 Speaker 4: that went off. 158 00:09:06,920 --> 00:09:11,319 Speaker 5: The sound would deafen an elephant and it would scare 159 00:09:11,360 --> 00:09:14,320 Speaker 5: the hell out of everybody that's in the store. That 160 00:09:14,440 --> 00:09:17,400 Speaker 5: would maybe the people might drop their goods and run out. 161 00:09:18,000 --> 00:09:20,880 Speaker 5: Esther will be laying on the floor from the four seasons. 162 00:09:20,880 --> 00:09:23,760 Speaker 5: But because of the sound, I mean it was deafening. 163 00:09:23,920 --> 00:09:26,840 Speaker 5: And then these flashlights went off. Yeah, this was back 164 00:09:26,880 --> 00:09:27,719 Speaker 5: in the seventies. 165 00:09:28,559 --> 00:09:32,280 Speaker 2: And what happened, what happened to that did that fall out? 166 00:09:32,280 --> 00:09:35,040 Speaker 2: Of the sound? 167 00:09:35,240 --> 00:09:37,400 Speaker 5: I mean it would really shock you. The sound had 168 00:09:37,440 --> 00:09:39,120 Speaker 5: like a wolf of sound that you see in the 169 00:09:39,120 --> 00:09:45,040 Speaker 5: police car. Yeah, and it went off sudden. It would 170 00:09:45,080 --> 00:09:49,120 Speaker 5: startle whoever except for Esther. 171 00:09:50,960 --> 00:09:52,360 Speaker 3: Uh, it would. 172 00:09:52,400 --> 00:09:55,600 Speaker 5: It would really I think that people would drop some 173 00:09:55,640 --> 00:09:57,079 Speaker 5: of the goods and run out of the place. 174 00:09:57,320 --> 00:10:00,160 Speaker 2: Yeah. Well again my opinion. 175 00:09:59,760 --> 00:10:03,280 Speaker 5: Is that's an old system. But we had it, and 176 00:10:03,440 --> 00:10:07,320 Speaker 5: when it did go off, you couldn't believe the how 177 00:10:07,360 --> 00:10:07,920 Speaker 5: loud it was. 178 00:10:08,320 --> 00:10:11,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I just think that I don't know. 179 00:10:12,160 --> 00:10:14,800 Speaker 2: Maybe what you could do is you could have some 180 00:10:15,080 --> 00:10:18,800 Speaker 2: There has to be something that for example, let's say 181 00:10:18,840 --> 00:10:21,360 Speaker 2: that I'll give you another example that just thought of 182 00:10:21,920 --> 00:10:28,839 Speaker 2: what about if you had some sort of hose that 183 00:10:28,920 --> 00:10:33,760 Speaker 2: could spray paint people as they're leaving the store with 184 00:10:33,400 --> 00:10:37,760 Speaker 2: that with that that product, you know, I mean something 185 00:10:37,800 --> 00:10:41,320 Speaker 2: that would be offensive. And there has to be something 186 00:10:41,559 --> 00:10:44,200 Speaker 2: out there that someone has an idea that they could 187 00:10:44,240 --> 00:10:49,000 Speaker 2: come up with which would not only prevent the theft 188 00:10:49,040 --> 00:10:52,480 Speaker 2: from occurring, but discourage people from even thinking about it. 189 00:10:53,360 --> 00:10:56,160 Speaker 5: Yeah. Well, the thing is like back was that system 190 00:10:56,200 --> 00:11:00,480 Speaker 5: I'm talking about was fifty years ago in work line? Yeah, 191 00:11:00,520 --> 00:11:04,319 Speaker 5: and when the thing went off was flash loud flashbulbs. 192 00:11:04,880 --> 00:11:07,440 Speaker 5: They get their picture take and they weren't, but they were, 193 00:11:07,520 --> 00:11:10,080 Speaker 5: they thought they were, and they ran out And. 194 00:11:10,120 --> 00:11:13,160 Speaker 2: Well they should all understand all of these people who 195 00:11:13,200 --> 00:11:17,360 Speaker 2: do this. John Sorrow on TV this weekend the video 196 00:11:17,840 --> 00:11:22,160 Speaker 2: their faces were splashed all over the TVs. Uh scrats. 197 00:11:22,360 --> 00:11:25,160 Speaker 2: And you would think that that just the mere presence 198 00:11:25,280 --> 00:11:32,040 Speaker 2: of cameras inside of these stores would discouraged these but 199 00:11:32,440 --> 00:11:35,120 Speaker 2: apparently not. They think they could get away with it. 200 00:11:35,400 --> 00:11:38,800 Speaker 2: What will discourage it is if there's some serious prosecutions. 201 00:11:39,280 --> 00:11:41,720 Speaker 2: But I don't have much faith in the district attorney 202 00:11:41,800 --> 00:11:44,400 Speaker 2: here in Suffolk County to do it. Well, I don't know. 203 00:11:44,760 --> 00:11:46,520 Speaker 2: I mean, I have a faith in Tim Cruise in 204 00:11:46,520 --> 00:11:49,400 Speaker 2: Plymouth County. He's a great DA. I have. I have 205 00:11:49,480 --> 00:11:52,800 Speaker 2: some faith in Joe Early in Worcester County, but there's 206 00:11:52,800 --> 00:11:54,240 Speaker 2: a lot of the d And I used to have 207 00:11:54,320 --> 00:11:58,200 Speaker 2: great faith in Michael O'Keeffe down at the Cape and 208 00:11:58,320 --> 00:12:01,480 Speaker 2: John Blodging in Essex County. But Keith and Blatchett have 209 00:12:01,480 --> 00:12:06,640 Speaker 2: both left, so you get these these new das who 210 00:12:06,720 --> 00:12:12,959 Speaker 2: choose not to prosecute people. And yeah, the robbers figured 211 00:12:12,960 --> 00:12:15,640 Speaker 2: it out pretty pretty quickly. John, Thank you for. 212 00:12:15,600 --> 00:12:19,240 Speaker 4: Calling, and thank you the what's the guy named Rollins 213 00:12:19,320 --> 00:12:20,960 Speaker 4: one time in the case that was strong. 214 00:12:22,000 --> 00:12:24,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, Rawlins was down there for a while. He preceded 215 00:12:25,080 --> 00:12:28,520 Speaker 2: Michael O'Keefe, who's who was a great DA. 216 00:12:28,600 --> 00:12:32,719 Speaker 5: In my opinion, and I was a tough guy. Absolutely, 217 00:12:33,360 --> 00:12:38,439 Speaker 5: shows are great shows, a great uh. I'm now a speaker. 218 00:12:38,480 --> 00:12:41,080 Speaker 5: I couldn't do it for years, but now I can. 219 00:12:41,320 --> 00:12:42,680 Speaker 2: Good keep calling. 220 00:12:42,880 --> 00:12:44,920 Speaker 5: I love what you're doing. I love what you're doing. 221 00:12:45,000 --> 00:12:47,760 Speaker 2: Thanks, John, appreciate you call. Thank you so much. Let's 222 00:12:47,800 --> 00:12:51,280 Speaker 2: keep rolling here. We got Phil in Boston coming up next. Phil, 223 00:12:51,440 --> 00:12:52,880 Speaker 2: you are next on Nightsider. 224 00:12:52,960 --> 00:12:54,200 Speaker 6: Right ahead, Phil, I. 225 00:12:57,000 --> 00:12:58,280 Speaker 2: Can hear you perfectly. Phil. 226 00:12:59,280 --> 00:13:01,880 Speaker 6: Several things, some pretty good at this. The feller from 227 00:13:01,880 --> 00:13:04,440 Speaker 6: the cave had an idea he could be that could 228 00:13:04,440 --> 00:13:07,840 Speaker 6: be Libel that the only thing that might work is 229 00:13:07,920 --> 00:13:09,880 Speaker 6: if you can't have one set of doors, because on 230 00:13:10,360 --> 00:13:13,320 Speaker 6: a cog spirit can be waiting outside and when a 231 00:13:13,320 --> 00:13:16,000 Speaker 6: bad guy runs out, he opens the door, and but 232 00:13:16,120 --> 00:13:18,439 Speaker 6: the time he gets out, he's coming in and the 233 00:13:18,559 --> 00:13:21,440 Speaker 6: doors open and get in. Might work with two sets 234 00:13:21,480 --> 00:13:24,920 Speaker 6: of doors. And you mentioned the paints. They do it 235 00:13:24,960 --> 00:13:27,160 Speaker 6: with these. I've seen them in stores. But they have 236 00:13:27,240 --> 00:13:29,960 Speaker 6: a little thing magnetic things you get, you know. They 237 00:13:30,000 --> 00:13:32,400 Speaker 6: they have tools to take these things off the bad guys. 238 00:13:33,040 --> 00:13:36,000 Speaker 6: If if a bad guy just wants to grab it, 239 00:13:36,320 --> 00:13:39,280 Speaker 6: if he goes through the metal thing whatever, it'll explode 240 00:13:39,320 --> 00:13:42,439 Speaker 6: and those clothes will get off. And I had that's 241 00:13:42,440 --> 00:13:45,320 Speaker 6: a longer. I do this too, But how about years ago? 242 00:13:45,360 --> 00:13:47,679 Speaker 6: These have a guy and those times sound crazy, but 243 00:13:47,760 --> 00:13:49,959 Speaker 6: these these have a follow on on a on a 244 00:13:50,080 --> 00:13:52,400 Speaker 6: horse and nuber streets. That would be kind of a 245 00:13:53,360 --> 00:13:56,319 Speaker 6: discouragement for somebody. I mean, I know it's old fashioned, 246 00:13:56,559 --> 00:13:59,480 Speaker 6: but they did away with that. I guess the horses, which. 247 00:13:59,320 --> 00:14:01,840 Speaker 2: Is I don't know about that. The problem is, I 248 00:14:01,840 --> 00:14:04,720 Speaker 2: think the horses are are a good police presence. But 249 00:14:04,800 --> 00:14:08,400 Speaker 2: I don't think the problem with with horses. I think 250 00:14:08,840 --> 00:14:12,000 Speaker 2: you chasing someone down on Newbury Street, you're gonna end 251 00:14:12,080 --> 00:14:13,920 Speaker 2: up the horses, gonna end up with a broken leg, 252 00:14:14,120 --> 00:14:17,480 Speaker 2: He's gonna step in the pothole something. Yeah. 253 00:14:17,920 --> 00:14:21,280 Speaker 6: Yeah, it's gotta because you know, if they keep doing it, 254 00:14:21,320 --> 00:14:24,200 Speaker 6: I mean, I don't know, what what can you do? 255 00:14:24,640 --> 00:14:28,200 Speaker 6: I mean the break into the Louver was mousinum is 256 00:14:28,240 --> 00:14:31,960 Speaker 6: stealing millions of dollars. But they can do that. I mean, 257 00:14:32,200 --> 00:14:35,400 Speaker 6: what can't they What can't they do? I mean, you 258 00:14:35,480 --> 00:14:36,640 Speaker 6: can't make the stuff up. 259 00:14:36,760 --> 00:14:40,080 Speaker 2: It's literally well, they made it easier for people in Boston. 260 00:14:40,200 --> 00:14:44,320 Speaker 2: I mean the Loover of those were professional thieves, high 261 00:14:44,480 --> 00:14:46,800 Speaker 2: end and I don't know if they'll be caught or not, 262 00:14:47,000 --> 00:14:49,600 Speaker 2: but they they they really had to think. This is 263 00:14:49,600 --> 00:14:55,120 Speaker 2: pretty easy. All you young kids, the young thieves are told, look, 264 00:14:55,160 --> 00:14:56,880 Speaker 2: go in there, four or five you each of you 265 00:14:56,960 --> 00:15:00,720 Speaker 2: grab you know, as many as you can, and you're 266 00:15:00,720 --> 00:15:02,720 Speaker 2: not going to get prosecuted for anything. As it's undred 267 00:15:02,720 --> 00:15:05,800 Speaker 2: twelve hundred dollars. Thank you very much, Rachel Rawlins appreciate that. 268 00:15:06,320 --> 00:15:08,480 Speaker 6: Oh, young kids might get yeah that I gets in 269 00:15:08,480 --> 00:15:10,920 Speaker 6: a gang, and then once they get into that, yeah. 270 00:15:10,800 --> 00:15:12,640 Speaker 2: You got it, you got it. And I feel thank 271 00:15:12,680 --> 00:15:16,800 Speaker 2: you much as always, thank you my friend. We lost 272 00:15:16,840 --> 00:15:20,360 Speaker 2: Gloria from Salem. Gloria, call back if you lost your contact, 273 00:15:20,400 --> 00:15:22,920 Speaker 2: and we'll get you. We'll get you to the head 274 00:15:22,920 --> 00:15:24,600 Speaker 2: of the line. I promise. Let me go to Dave 275 00:15:24,640 --> 00:15:26,760 Speaker 2: in Boston. Dave you next time nights. I go right ahead. 276 00:15:28,160 --> 00:15:29,360 Speaker 7: Hey, how are you good evening? 277 00:15:29,560 --> 00:15:32,560 Speaker 2: I'm doing great. Thanks for calling in, Dave. Your thoughts 278 00:15:32,560 --> 00:15:35,240 Speaker 2: on any of this, anyone that we have discussed tonight. 279 00:15:36,000 --> 00:15:40,400 Speaker 7: Yeah, and I apologize if this came up before I 280 00:15:40,600 --> 00:15:44,040 Speaker 7: was tuned in, but I work part time in retail. Yes, 281 00:15:44,080 --> 00:15:47,560 Speaker 7: and I'll tell you it's there's not a night goes 282 00:15:47,600 --> 00:15:50,440 Speaker 7: by that I don't see someone skial something. Really, it's 283 00:15:50,520 --> 00:15:53,560 Speaker 7: really sad. And as I think you know, we're not 284 00:15:53,640 --> 00:15:59,280 Speaker 7: allowed to stop them. If we do, it's funny. If 285 00:15:59,280 --> 00:16:01,120 Speaker 7: we try to stop someone do the right thing and 286 00:16:01,120 --> 00:16:04,160 Speaker 7: stop somebody from committing a crime, we're the ones that 287 00:16:04,240 --> 00:16:04,760 Speaker 7: get fired. 288 00:16:05,560 --> 00:16:08,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, I've seen that, you know, Dave. I know you, 289 00:16:08,080 --> 00:16:10,960 Speaker 2: I know of what you speak. I've seen that, and 290 00:16:11,000 --> 00:16:15,080 Speaker 2: it just seems to me that we have lost our way. 291 00:16:15,320 --> 00:16:17,960 Speaker 2: We have lost our way as a society here. I 292 00:16:18,000 --> 00:16:21,840 Speaker 2: mean it's like there's an old story, you know, that 293 00:16:22,360 --> 00:16:25,480 Speaker 2: your guys walking down the street and he sees this 294 00:16:25,880 --> 00:16:28,840 Speaker 2: group of thugs attack an elderly woman. 295 00:16:29,560 --> 00:16:29,680 Speaker 4: Uh. 296 00:16:29,840 --> 00:16:32,520 Speaker 2: And the police come along and they break the fight up, 297 00:16:32,560 --> 00:16:34,560 Speaker 2: and they saved the woman. And they say to the 298 00:16:34,600 --> 00:16:37,120 Speaker 2: guy across the street, Hey, why do you do something? 299 00:16:37,520 --> 00:16:39,560 Speaker 2: And he said, well, it wasn't true who started the fight. 300 00:16:40,040 --> 00:16:42,640 Speaker 2: I mean, everybody has an excuse not to get involved 301 00:16:42,640 --> 00:16:45,680 Speaker 2: in anything, you know, And that's and we just have 302 00:16:45,960 --> 00:16:48,040 Speaker 2: kind of lost our way as a society. It's better 303 00:16:48,080 --> 00:16:51,720 Speaker 2: to turn and look the other way. Ridiculous, I know. 304 00:16:52,200 --> 00:16:55,480 Speaker 7: Well, but I disagree that it is better too. But 305 00:16:55,520 --> 00:16:56,520 Speaker 7: I understand what you're saying. 306 00:16:56,600 --> 00:16:59,400 Speaker 2: You know, yeah, well it's the society. Believe the people 307 00:16:59,400 --> 00:17:02,480 Speaker 2: who are in positions of influence other than at Flynn, 308 00:17:02,520 --> 00:17:05,560 Speaker 2: who they sees things pretty pretty well. You would when 309 00:17:05,600 --> 00:17:08,720 Speaker 2: the DA's a saying, oh, let's let's raise the amount 310 00:17:08,840 --> 00:17:11,639 Speaker 2: that can be stolen from a store, and all of 311 00:17:11,680 --> 00:17:16,119 Speaker 2: these small little variety stores, pidagos whatever you want to 312 00:17:16,160 --> 00:17:20,160 Speaker 2: call them, uh, in poorer communities, they shut their doors 313 00:17:20,440 --> 00:17:23,400 Speaker 2: and then the politicians say it's a food desert. There's 314 00:17:23,440 --> 00:17:26,920 Speaker 2: there's no no option for people who live in the communities. Well, 315 00:17:26,960 --> 00:17:31,440 Speaker 2: the reason is those people are victimized secondarily by crime. 316 00:17:31,520 --> 00:17:35,240 Speaker 2: The person who's who's victimized primarily is the store owner. 317 00:17:35,480 --> 00:17:37,399 Speaker 2: But now the people no longer have the store to 318 00:17:37,440 --> 00:17:39,800 Speaker 2: go to shop to uh where they can go to 319 00:17:39,840 --> 00:17:44,520 Speaker 2: shop easily and conveniently, they become victims of crime. 320 00:17:45,720 --> 00:17:48,439 Speaker 7: Right And you know what they tell us is, you know, 321 00:17:48,480 --> 00:17:53,360 Speaker 7: we don't want you to approach anybody because we don't 322 00:17:53,400 --> 00:17:55,280 Speaker 7: want you to get hurt. It's for your own protection. 323 00:17:55,720 --> 00:17:58,000 Speaker 7: The reality is that they don't want the loss. And 324 00:17:58,119 --> 00:18:00,480 Speaker 7: when people say it was raised to so, they were 325 00:18:00,480 --> 00:18:03,520 Speaker 7: profiled and therefore that's why we. 326 00:18:02,760 --> 00:18:05,160 Speaker 2: We well, there's a there's a lot of that but 327 00:18:05,160 --> 00:18:08,600 Speaker 2: but but but in point of fact, there's there's there's 328 00:18:08,600 --> 00:18:12,439 Speaker 2: people who are thieves of all backgrounds, of all racial backgrounds, 329 00:18:12,440 --> 00:18:15,440 Speaker 2: of all genders. There are uh, you know, it should 330 00:18:15,600 --> 00:18:18,360 Speaker 2: it should not be looked upon as any as anything 331 00:18:18,480 --> 00:18:21,480 Speaker 2: that's endemic to one group of people. It's it's it's 332 00:18:21,520 --> 00:18:24,560 Speaker 2: people who feel they can they can they can game 333 00:18:24,640 --> 00:18:27,360 Speaker 2: the system. That's all they're doing. And they have they 334 00:18:27,400 --> 00:18:31,640 Speaker 2: have some prosecutors who are more than happy to just say, hey, 335 00:18:31,800 --> 00:18:34,160 Speaker 2: you know, no big deal, we're not going to prosecute. 336 00:18:36,119 --> 00:18:39,080 Speaker 7: We are allowed to do well. They you know, the 337 00:18:39,240 --> 00:18:42,359 Speaker 7: loss prevention is offer great customer service. So if you 338 00:18:42,400 --> 00:18:45,560 Speaker 7: see someone you think you're stealing or whatever, you know, 339 00:18:45,920 --> 00:18:47,679 Speaker 7: feel free to walk down the aisle there and be like, oh, 340 00:18:47,720 --> 00:18:49,679 Speaker 7: ain't gonna help you with anything, to let them know 341 00:18:49,760 --> 00:18:53,439 Speaker 7: that there's a presence. But uh, you can't be like 342 00:18:53,520 --> 00:18:55,760 Speaker 7: I just saw you fill up your baby carriage with 343 00:18:55,920 --> 00:18:57,439 Speaker 7: stuff and you don't have a baby in it. 344 00:18:57,720 --> 00:19:00,200 Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, I have a friend of mine who who 345 00:19:00,359 --> 00:19:03,120 Speaker 2: owns a liquor store, and he saw a guy. They 346 00:19:03,160 --> 00:19:06,520 Speaker 2: have cameras in liquor store. He saw a guy who 347 00:19:06,640 --> 00:19:11,640 Speaker 2: were taking like five or six very expensive bottles of liquor. 348 00:19:12,320 --> 00:19:14,199 Speaker 2: And when he went to the counter, he you know, 349 00:19:14,240 --> 00:19:17,000 Speaker 2: watched the guy. The guy put one lique you know, 350 00:19:17,040 --> 00:19:20,919 Speaker 2: he made as if he was buying one bottle of liquor. 351 00:19:21,359 --> 00:19:23,800 Speaker 2: And so the owner said to him, you're gonna put 352 00:19:23,800 --> 00:19:25,960 Speaker 2: the other bottles up on the counter, and the guy 353 00:19:26,119 --> 00:19:28,480 Speaker 2: just you know, grabbed his bag and ran. The owner 354 00:19:28,560 --> 00:19:31,840 Speaker 2: chased after him. The owner caught him. The guy threw 355 00:19:32,000 --> 00:19:34,520 Speaker 2: one bottle of liquor at the owner, which is assaulted 356 00:19:34,600 --> 00:19:38,720 Speaker 2: batter of the dangerous weapon. The owner then grabbed the 357 00:19:38,800 --> 00:19:42,040 Speaker 2: bag that had the bottles, most of the bottles to 358 00:19:42,160 --> 00:19:45,120 Speaker 2: recover his own property, which he did. He goes back 359 00:19:45,160 --> 00:19:49,960 Speaker 2: to the store and this guy's driver's licenses there, I 360 00:19:49,960 --> 00:19:54,040 Speaker 2: think his birth certificate and also indication of he had 361 00:19:54,080 --> 00:19:57,080 Speaker 2: just been released from the Suffolk County House of Correction 362 00:19:57,920 --> 00:20:02,960 Speaker 2: and so he asked us on to the authorities. And 363 00:20:03,320 --> 00:20:05,399 Speaker 2: this was a year ago. In June, he got a 364 00:20:05,400 --> 00:20:08,200 Speaker 2: phone call from the Suffolk County Diaz office that said 365 00:20:08,640 --> 00:20:12,280 Speaker 2: we've disposed of the matter. And he said, this is 366 00:20:12,320 --> 00:20:14,600 Speaker 2: now in September. When they called him, he said, what 367 00:20:14,600 --> 00:20:17,280 Speaker 2: do you mean you disposed? Well, we could close the matter. 368 00:20:17,680 --> 00:20:20,480 Speaker 2: Well did the guy was he did he take a plee? No, 369 00:20:20,720 --> 00:20:23,400 Speaker 2: we dismissed it or whatever. They put him on probation 370 00:20:23,560 --> 00:20:26,399 Speaker 2: for thirty days or something, but they never called him 371 00:20:26,400 --> 00:20:29,119 Speaker 2: as a witness although he was the victim of the 372 00:20:29,240 --> 00:20:31,720 Speaker 2: assault and battery and also the victim is the owner 373 00:20:31,720 --> 00:20:35,119 Speaker 2: of So thank you very much, Suffolk County prosecutors for 374 00:20:35,240 --> 00:20:37,399 Speaker 2: letting that guy out. And they had they had the 375 00:20:37,440 --> 00:20:39,399 Speaker 2: guy did the right They had. I mean they literally 376 00:20:39,440 --> 00:20:43,760 Speaker 2: had his birth certificate and I think his driver's license 377 00:20:43,840 --> 00:20:44,640 Speaker 2: in the same bag. 378 00:20:44,720 --> 00:20:48,080 Speaker 7: One more quick thing, Yeah, there there is testing now 379 00:20:48,160 --> 00:20:53,360 Speaker 7: of you know, you'll see igh end items with censors 380 00:20:53,359 --> 00:20:55,720 Speaker 7: on them that have to be you know, removed when 381 00:20:55,760 --> 00:20:56,440 Speaker 7: they check out. 382 00:20:56,760 --> 00:21:00,880 Speaker 2: Oh sure, but yeah, all that does is that makes 383 00:21:00,880 --> 00:21:02,800 Speaker 2: a noise when they when they walk out the door. 384 00:21:02,800 --> 00:21:04,879 Speaker 2: But if they're being allowed to walk out the door, 385 00:21:05,320 --> 00:21:07,040 Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know how they rip the 386 00:21:07,080 --> 00:21:07,800 Speaker 2: sensor off. 387 00:21:09,200 --> 00:21:12,840 Speaker 7: They have trackers on them, just like when you when 388 00:21:12,840 --> 00:21:16,640 Speaker 7: you have you know that whatever the apple singing your 389 00:21:16,760 --> 00:21:21,120 Speaker 7: wallet and you lose your wallet, Okay, that's a good thing. 390 00:21:21,320 --> 00:21:22,119 Speaker 2: Goes unaware of that. 391 00:21:23,520 --> 00:21:26,240 Speaker 7: Now that allows you to like follow the beep and 392 00:21:26,320 --> 00:21:27,560 Speaker 7: c So let me ask you. 393 00:21:27,760 --> 00:21:31,080 Speaker 2: The sensors that when you buy we'll go to buy 394 00:21:31,119 --> 00:21:33,639 Speaker 2: the item at Bloomingdale's or Macy's or something like that, 395 00:21:33,720 --> 00:21:35,640 Speaker 2: and if it's over a certain amount of money, they 396 00:21:35,720 --> 00:21:39,840 Speaker 2: have a device which takes the clip off. It can 397 00:21:39,880 --> 00:21:42,920 Speaker 2: those clips be removed by other by other people? I mean, 398 00:21:42,960 --> 00:21:46,280 Speaker 2: I'm assuming if if other people, if thieves can take 399 00:21:46,320 --> 00:21:49,000 Speaker 2: the clips off, they can take the clips, throw them 400 00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:51,840 Speaker 2: into the woods and and and go in the merry way. 401 00:21:53,680 --> 00:21:54,040 Speaker 8: Right there. 402 00:21:54,080 --> 00:21:56,960 Speaker 7: But they're not as easy to get off as you think, gotchay. 403 00:21:57,200 --> 00:21:59,680 Speaker 7: And the thing about them is they're made in such 404 00:21:59,720 --> 00:22:03,000 Speaker 7: a way that like it's when you try and rip 405 00:22:03,040 --> 00:22:04,920 Speaker 7: it off, if you don't have the right tools or 406 00:22:04,960 --> 00:22:07,600 Speaker 7: what have you, you ruin the clothes, you ruin the items. 407 00:22:07,640 --> 00:22:10,399 Speaker 7: So then it's no value for reseil, you know, for 408 00:22:10,480 --> 00:22:13,280 Speaker 7: you to pond or whatever you're doing. 409 00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:18,119 Speaker 2: Very informative phone, costasy, Very informative phone. Thanks Dave, all right, 410 00:22:18,160 --> 00:22:20,359 Speaker 2: take you, thank you soon. Here comes the news at 411 00:22:20,359 --> 00:22:22,520 Speaker 2: the bottom of the aisle. The only line is six 412 00:22:22,560 --> 00:22:24,800 Speaker 2: one seven, nine three, one ten thirty. This has hit 413 00:22:24,840 --> 00:22:28,159 Speaker 2: a nerve, so ladies join the conversation. So far I 414 00:22:28,200 --> 00:22:31,160 Speaker 2: spent all men. I love the men, but I want 415 00:22:31,200 --> 00:22:34,120 Speaker 2: to hear from my female listeners as well. Six one seven, 416 00:22:34,240 --> 00:22:38,000 Speaker 2: nine three one ten thirty. Lulu Lemon, most patrons of 417 00:22:38,080 --> 00:22:41,840 Speaker 2: Lululemon are female. Well, that discourage you from going in there, 418 00:22:41,920 --> 00:22:44,400 Speaker 2: knowing that Lulu Lemon and I was being targeted by 419 00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:47,520 Speaker 2: these thieves, not only here but across the country. Back 420 00:22:47,560 --> 00:22:48,560 Speaker 2: on Nightside after this. 421 00:22:51,080 --> 00:22:55,600 Speaker 1: You're on night Side with Dan Ray on Boston's news 422 00:22:55,720 --> 00:22:56,800 Speaker 1: radio let'st. 423 00:22:56,680 --> 00:22:59,520 Speaker 2: Keep rolling here. Only line of only one line six, 424 00:22:59,600 --> 00:23:02,399 Speaker 2: one seven, two thirty call. Now I'll get you in 425 00:23:02,440 --> 00:23:04,880 Speaker 2: before the eleven oclock news Kevin in New Bedford, Kevin 426 00:23:04,920 --> 00:23:06,240 Speaker 2: next on nightside, go right ahead. 427 00:23:07,400 --> 00:23:08,240 Speaker 5: How are you doing, Dan? 428 00:23:08,480 --> 00:23:09,240 Speaker 3: First time call? 429 00:23:09,680 --> 00:23:11,399 Speaker 2: First time caller? Or how I get you? Round of 430 00:23:11,440 --> 00:23:15,080 Speaker 2: applause there, You're much kind of appreciate my digital studio audience. 431 00:23:15,119 --> 00:23:16,040 Speaker 2: Got ahead, Kevin. 432 00:23:17,040 --> 00:23:19,480 Speaker 8: I just want to let you know these companies, you know, 433 00:23:19,520 --> 00:23:22,399 Speaker 8: they have all this the smashing grab and all that stuff. 434 00:23:22,760 --> 00:23:25,000 Speaker 8: They got, they got the cure right under their nose. 435 00:23:25,640 --> 00:23:27,760 Speaker 8: Is that now they have the machine. Now they have 436 00:23:27,840 --> 00:23:31,000 Speaker 8: the sheet, the machine that makes everything peep when they're 437 00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:32,480 Speaker 8: going out with they got to take the little tags 438 00:23:32,520 --> 00:23:33,600 Speaker 8: off the clothing and stuff. 439 00:23:33,800 --> 00:23:34,200 Speaker 2: Mm hmm. 440 00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:37,320 Speaker 8: Well if they can do if they can do that 441 00:23:37,359 --> 00:23:43,160 Speaker 8: with like what's that called electric fence, you they put 442 00:23:43,160 --> 00:23:45,040 Speaker 8: the things at the doorway and when they try to 443 00:23:45,119 --> 00:23:48,480 Speaker 8: run out with it, the little things things happy. 444 00:23:48,880 --> 00:23:50,920 Speaker 2: Oh I see, oh yeah, yeah, yeah, oh I see 445 00:23:50,920 --> 00:23:53,399 Speaker 2: what you're meaning. Yeah, Well, but you don't you have 446 00:23:53,480 --> 00:23:56,240 Speaker 2: to have contact with the skin at that point. It was, 447 00:23:56,280 --> 00:23:58,560 Speaker 2: for example, when you put an electric fence. 448 00:23:58,800 --> 00:24:02,040 Speaker 8: No, if they if they run through it with either 449 00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:06,639 Speaker 8: clothing anything, and once once the tags or whatever to 450 00:24:06,840 --> 00:24:12,040 Speaker 8: hit the electric fence, that's it. They get. That'll keep. 451 00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:15,679 Speaker 4: Anything. 452 00:24:15,840 --> 00:24:18,960 Speaker 2: You'll have some you know, some legal group, maybe the 453 00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:23,080 Speaker 2: a c l U, claim that that's inflicting unjust pain 454 00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:26,160 Speaker 2: on someone's constitutional rights. 455 00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:28,919 Speaker 8: It's just a little shock to make them drop it 456 00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:29,320 Speaker 8: and run. 457 00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:31,280 Speaker 2: Oh no, no, I get it. I'd make it a bit. 458 00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:33,639 Speaker 2: I would make it a big shock. But that's neither. 459 00:24:36,040 --> 00:24:38,239 Speaker 8: But I figured that electric French because you figured they 460 00:24:38,280 --> 00:24:41,520 Speaker 8: said they grabbing them and they're running out. If if 461 00:24:41,560 --> 00:24:43,359 Speaker 8: they grabbing they run and then all of a sudden 462 00:24:43,359 --> 00:24:46,160 Speaker 8: they go through the electric French area and it purts 463 00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:50,520 Speaker 8: a little tags on the clothing, stuns happening, leave it 464 00:24:50,560 --> 00:24:51,280 Speaker 8: and take off. 465 00:24:51,560 --> 00:24:55,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know if such that such thing such exists. 466 00:24:55,720 --> 00:24:59,560 Speaker 2: Obviously you're you're applying the idea of the electric fence 467 00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:03,520 Speaker 2: with dog callers and stuff with Okay, that's that's not 468 00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:05,600 Speaker 2: a bad idea, Kevin. I kind of like that. 469 00:25:05,680 --> 00:25:08,960 Speaker 8: I'm putting it with tags that they do on all 470 00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:11,800 Speaker 8: the clothing, like the magnets to make the thing to 471 00:25:11,880 --> 00:25:15,000 Speaker 8: make it beat. Yeah, they do the which calls that 472 00:25:15,040 --> 00:25:17,240 Speaker 8: will make the little things zapp whatever they're trying to 473 00:25:17,320 --> 00:25:20,080 Speaker 8: run through with. I think they'll drop it and take off. 474 00:25:20,359 --> 00:25:22,400 Speaker 8: There'll be less uh theft. 475 00:25:22,600 --> 00:25:25,679 Speaker 2: Kevin, Kevin, I I got you down as one of 476 00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:27,960 Speaker 2: the best ideas of the night. Thank you very much, 477 00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:30,359 Speaker 2: a great first call. Thank you keep calling. 478 00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:33,160 Speaker 4: Okay, you can send me one of your mugs. 479 00:25:35,840 --> 00:25:38,440 Speaker 2: We're not giving any mugs away tonight, but I'll tell 480 00:25:38,480 --> 00:25:40,879 Speaker 2: you what you call. Call again and remind me. I'll 481 00:25:40,920 --> 00:25:42,399 Speaker 2: see what I can do. I can tell you this, 482 00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:45,359 Speaker 2: Kevin did the best buy in the world. Just go 483 00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:47,800 Speaker 2: to nightside gear dot com. I wish I could give 484 00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:50,240 Speaker 2: away mugs to everybody in the audience. I wish you 485 00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:52,800 Speaker 2: give away hats, T shirts, sweatshirts. 486 00:25:53,119 --> 00:25:56,600 Speaker 8: But uh, that's that's okay, that's okay, I got. 487 00:25:56,440 --> 00:25:57,240 Speaker 4: It, but you can get it. 488 00:25:57,560 --> 00:25:59,040 Speaker 8: Was a good idea when I was thinking of it. 489 00:25:59,080 --> 00:26:02,080 Speaker 8: That's why I said, let me And well, I hope. 490 00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:04,080 Speaker 2: That's not why you called, and I hope you'll continue 491 00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:10,000 Speaker 2: to call. Uh and there will be somebody right okay. Uh, 492 00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:12,960 Speaker 2: if you want a mug just for the it costs, 493 00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:16,240 Speaker 2: I think with chipping twenty dollars, then they're great mugs. Okay, 494 00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:19,879 Speaker 2: But that's idear dot com. Check them out and if not, 495 00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:21,920 Speaker 2: we'll we'll get around to him. Because I think most 496 00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:24,959 Speaker 2: everybody's listening to my show for the nineteen years now 497 00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:27,760 Speaker 2: that we've been on the air has some item that 498 00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:31,080 Speaker 2: I've said, because we're pretty generous with freebies here, so 499 00:26:31,680 --> 00:26:35,359 Speaker 2: thanks to college hype, you know, as they say. The 500 00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:37,639 Speaker 2: problem is whatever someone says, can I have one? If 501 00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:40,239 Speaker 2: I then say yes, then everybody's gonna call them, so well, 502 00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:42,560 Speaker 2: come one. Yeah right, I hear you. 503 00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:47,080 Speaker 8: I don't I don't want to start a trend, but yeah, 504 00:26:47,119 --> 00:26:49,120 Speaker 8: but I think the idea would really work. 505 00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:51,080 Speaker 2: I think it's a great idea. I think it's a 506 00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:53,159 Speaker 2: great idea. We'll see what other people think about it 507 00:26:53,200 --> 00:26:53,480 Speaker 2: as well. 508 00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:58,080 Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, that'll definitely stop all that that because if 509 00:26:58,119 --> 00:27:01,000 Speaker 8: they grab a whole bunch of actually grab they grab 510 00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:02,760 Speaker 8: a whole bunch of stuff and they try to run 511 00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:04,720 Speaker 8: to it, they're gonna get zapp, They're gonna drop, They're 512 00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:05,639 Speaker 8: gonna have many zapps. 513 00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:10,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, thank you, Kevin, Thanks Doug soon, Okay, call again 514 00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:14,639 Speaker 2: at night. Jim in Missouri. Jim, you were next on 515 00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:15,720 Speaker 2: Nice I go ahead. 516 00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:18,200 Speaker 4: Jim, and hey, thanks for taking my call. 517 00:27:18,280 --> 00:27:18,760 Speaker 9: What are you doing? 518 00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:21,040 Speaker 2: Good shirt? What's on your what's your take on this? 519 00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:25,240 Speaker 9: Well, I just have an idea. I'm sure there's as 520 00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:28,760 Speaker 9: many ideas as there. There's kind of quite a few ideas. 521 00:27:28,840 --> 00:27:34,440 Speaker 9: But and the problem is it'll be like the customers 522 00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:38,040 Speaker 9: find paying customers won't like having to do it. But 523 00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:42,520 Speaker 9: like that stuff never happens at Costco because in order 524 00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:44,840 Speaker 9: to get in, you're identified. In order to get out, 525 00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:48,159 Speaker 9: you know, really know exactly who you are. So you 526 00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:51,520 Speaker 9: just have people. I mean, you could have it be 527 00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:53,560 Speaker 9: a very simple thing where they just stick a credit 528 00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:56,600 Speaker 9: card in, It takes a picture of you, it takes 529 00:27:56,640 --> 00:28:00,239 Speaker 9: a ten dollars deposit, and when you leave you your 530 00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:02,720 Speaker 9: credit card in again, it gives you ten dollars back 531 00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:05,680 Speaker 9: and you go that way, they know who everybody is 532 00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:09,320 Speaker 9: in there, and people that are going to steal stuff 533 00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:12,160 Speaker 9: aren't going to put a ten dollar depositive down. They're 534 00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:12,960 Speaker 9: just not going to do that. 535 00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:16,880 Speaker 2: No, Well, that's that's not a bad idea either, Jim. 536 00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:22,359 Speaker 2: Those are two different ideas. I think that's a pretty 537 00:28:22,359 --> 00:28:26,440 Speaker 2: good idea. Again, it wouldn't bother me, but there would 538 00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:28,320 Speaker 2: be something there's always going to be selling. Well, I 539 00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:31,159 Speaker 2: don't want to buy privacy. I'm going into and I 540 00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:33,399 Speaker 2: want to be able to maintain my bra It's not 541 00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:36,720 Speaker 2: like you're going into porn shop. You're going into Lulu Lemons, 542 00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:39,400 Speaker 2: or you're going into Macy's, or you're going into Bloomingdale's. 543 00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:43,320 Speaker 2: And guess what. Whoever thought that they would be locking 544 00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:46,520 Speaker 2: up under lock and key tubes of toothpaste? 545 00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:52,760 Speaker 9: Yeah, oh yeah, But that's just an idea that I 546 00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:56,040 Speaker 9: think would prevent it because it's kind of like a 547 00:28:56,160 --> 00:28:59,239 Speaker 9: social a social thing where and then if they did 548 00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:02,840 Speaker 9: steal something, you know, you'd have your idea rocks box 549 00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:05,959 Speaker 9: solid identification because that credit card is linked to their 550 00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:09,960 Speaker 9: their bank account and then they have they have. You're 551 00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:11,760 Speaker 9: so security, all right, Jim. 552 00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:13,840 Speaker 2: Jim, I gave you an a plus for thinking outside 553 00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:17,040 Speaker 2: the box. Great, great suggestion, Thank you, Kep. You and 554 00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:19,720 Speaker 2: Tavin't got the two best suggestions of the night. I 555 00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:22,000 Speaker 2: think you're better said they were better than mine, which 556 00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:24,920 Speaker 2: was so automatically lock the doors. We'll be back on 557 00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:28,760 Speaker 2: night side one line and six one seven nine three 558 00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:33,920 Speaker 2: one ten thirty six one seven nine three one ten thirty. Uh, 559 00:29:34,040 --> 00:29:37,080 Speaker 2: we're gonna finish really strong here. But again, so far, 560 00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:41,200 Speaker 2: the men have dominated tonight, which to me is interesting 561 00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:44,600 Speaker 2: because we're talking about Lulu Lemon. We'll be back on 562 00:29:44,760 --> 00:29:45,560 Speaker 2: night Side after this. 563 00:29:47,080 --> 00:29:51,720 Speaker 1: It's Night Side with Dan Ray on Boston's news radio. 564 00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:55,280 Speaker 2: All Right, I'm gonna go to Evelyn in Boston. Evelyn, 565 00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:57,400 Speaker 2: you are next. Go right ahead, Evelyn. 566 00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:01,520 Speaker 10: You know in the mountain of merchandise that they're losing 567 00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:03,760 Speaker 10: from them stealing, they should probably invest and get a 568 00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:04,920 Speaker 10: security out at the door. 569 00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:08,240 Speaker 2: Well, that's that's that's been mentioned before. But that's a 570 00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:11,600 Speaker 2: great idea. And hopefully if I were going to be 571 00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:13,840 Speaker 2: investing in the security guard, I'd want to hire an 572 00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:16,479 Speaker 2: off duty Boston police officer who would have the ability 573 00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:20,160 Speaker 2: to arrest somebody absolutely because they may look at they 574 00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:23,320 Speaker 2: may look at some twenty year old kid who's sitting 575 00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:25,960 Speaker 2: there with you know, a security on his on his 576 00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:29,080 Speaker 2: sleeve of his jacket, and they realize he's just the 577 00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:32,040 Speaker 2: security guard. He has no power of arrest. But you 578 00:30:32,120 --> 00:30:33,880 Speaker 2: have a police officer they're able to. 579 00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:36,320 Speaker 10: If they're able to get a police officer that's not 580 00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:39,200 Speaker 10: on duty to do special detail for them, that would 581 00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:39,920 Speaker 10: work out perfect. 582 00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:43,320 Speaker 2: Well, there's a lot of police officers who are available. 583 00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:44,720 Speaker 7: To absolute. 584 00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:48,520 Speaker 2: Well, Evelyn, thanks very much for calling in. That was 585 00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:52,400 Speaker 2: that was a fine fine suggestion. Are you a first 586 00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:55,280 Speaker 2: time caller per chance or no? I am well we 587 00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:57,200 Speaker 2: got to give up on the round of applause. Look 588 00:30:57,240 --> 00:30:59,400 Speaker 2: at that you called in. We got you on and 589 00:30:59,560 --> 00:31:02,480 Speaker 2: you got your points made. And uh and uh I 590 00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:06,040 Speaker 2: thank you for listening to Nightside. Please continue to listen 591 00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:08,240 Speaker 2: and you call in any time. It was a really 592 00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:09,080 Speaker 2: a great call. Thank you. 593 00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:10,400 Speaker 10: You're welcome. 594 00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:12,160 Speaker 2: Thank you a great night. Let me go next to 595 00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:15,280 Speaker 2: I'm going to go to Kevin in Rhode Island to Kevin. 596 00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:18,120 Speaker 2: I think you were first caller from Rhode Island tonight, 597 00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:18,960 Speaker 2: so far go right. 598 00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:22,000 Speaker 5: Ahead, hie hi dam, I don't think. 599 00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:25,080 Speaker 11: How about it if you have a high pressure water system, 600 00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:28,160 Speaker 11: so you can just hit the button and soak the 601 00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:29,280 Speaker 11: hell out of them and that's the. 602 00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:31,120 Speaker 5: Exiting the store. 603 00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:34,200 Speaker 11: And you can also you can also inject it with 604 00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:37,760 Speaker 11: a die, so even if they got away from the store, 605 00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:39,560 Speaker 11: they're still going to be easy to find. 606 00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:43,640 Speaker 2: I look, I'm will they have to There has to 607 00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:47,120 Speaker 2: be ways in which we can do that in such 608 00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:50,080 Speaker 2: in such a way that it's not going to hit 609 00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:52,920 Speaker 2: other people. Uh, you want to make sure that you're 610 00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:57,160 Speaker 2: not hitting some poor person who's walking down the sidewalk 611 00:31:57,240 --> 00:32:01,920 Speaker 2: with a high pressure system. But I suspect that there 612 00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:04,440 Speaker 2: should be ways to do that. And guess what, you know, 613 00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:06,880 Speaker 2: what do they say necessity is the. 614 00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:08,920 Speaker 5: Mother of a store? 615 00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:11,560 Speaker 11: You know right inside like you were saying, is you know, 616 00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:13,360 Speaker 11: lock the door and just soak the hell out of 617 00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:13,680 Speaker 11: the guy. 618 00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:17,480 Speaker 2: There were a lot of people didn't like my idea 619 00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:22,960 Speaker 2: of locking the door, but I'm with you too, you know, 620 00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:26,480 Speaker 2: as they say, it would be great. Uh if it 621 00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:29,320 Speaker 2: would be great, if if if someone came up with 622 00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:33,160 Speaker 2: that idea. I mean again, you know it's in the 623 00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:38,920 Speaker 2: pharmacies now, drug stores, they're they're locking toothpaste tubes ten 624 00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:42,640 Speaker 2: dollars toothpaste tubes under lock and key. That just causes 625 00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:47,040 Speaker 2: inconvenience for other people. So, uh, we got to come 626 00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:49,360 Speaker 2: up with some ideas here. And I think this is 627 00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:52,320 Speaker 2: a good one. Where they get hit with some sort 628 00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:56,920 Speaker 2: of die uh and and they they're going to walk 629 00:32:57,000 --> 00:32:58,640 Speaker 2: down the street and they're gonna be they're gonna be 630 00:32:58,680 --> 00:32:59,360 Speaker 2: easy to spot. 631 00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:02,040 Speaker 11: Simple is that you have to just hit him with 632 00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:04,959 Speaker 11: maple syrup or honey or something like that, and sticky. 633 00:33:05,040 --> 00:33:09,120 Speaker 11: Somebody can't get a motor oil anything as far as 634 00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:11,240 Speaker 11: I'm for doing it, or or hit him. 635 00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:16,320 Speaker 2: With some odorm like the rotten egg smell that that 636 00:33:16,480 --> 00:33:18,400 Speaker 2: people nobody likes, you know. 637 00:33:18,920 --> 00:33:20,040 Speaker 3: Oh you're my kind of guy. 638 00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:25,040 Speaker 2: Now, Hey, Kevin, thanks you my guy to call and 639 00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:28,240 Speaker 2: keep calling. Okay, thanks, buddy, appreciate You're not a first 640 00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:29,360 Speaker 2: time caller too, are you? 641 00:33:30,800 --> 00:33:30,960 Speaker 6: Yeah? 642 00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:35,680 Speaker 4: I am well in a row here, Thank. 643 00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:38,520 Speaker 2: You, Kevin. Come on back soon. I appreciate it. 644 00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:40,400 Speaker 11: Thanks, I will, I'll try my bet. 645 00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:44,280 Speaker 2: All right, let me go to Ellen in Boston. Ellen, 646 00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:45,280 Speaker 2: you were next do nights. 647 00:33:45,320 --> 00:33:47,600 Speaker 4: I go right ahead, Thank you. 648 00:33:48,080 --> 00:33:50,239 Speaker 12: Hi, Hi, El, just wanted Hi. 649 00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:51,440 Speaker 4: How you doing good? 650 00:33:51,560 --> 00:33:52,760 Speaker 2: Thanks for calling? Go right ahead. 651 00:33:53,120 --> 00:33:56,480 Speaker 12: Oh you're welcome. I tuned in kind of late, so 652 00:33:56,600 --> 00:33:59,040 Speaker 12: I don't know if somebody made this suggestion or not, 653 00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:03,000 Speaker 12: but I was going to suggest maybe they should install 654 00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:06,640 Speaker 12: a buger system. They have that type of a system 655 00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:12,240 Speaker 12: at the jewelry stores on Washington Street in downtown Boston, 656 00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:15,040 Speaker 12: and the only way you can get in is they 657 00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:17,799 Speaker 12: would buzz you in, and this way they can keep 658 00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:21,080 Speaker 12: track of the customers that are coming through the duo. 659 00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:23,759 Speaker 2: So let me ask you what Okay, they have to 660 00:34:23,840 --> 00:34:27,480 Speaker 2: buzz you in. I get that. Then do they buzz 661 00:34:27,600 --> 00:34:28,800 Speaker 2: do they buzz you out. 662 00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:34,479 Speaker 12: That time? I'm not too sure because it's been quite 663 00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:36,000 Speaker 12: a quite a number of years. 664 00:34:36,680 --> 00:34:41,120 Speaker 2: No, No, I think that's I think sometimes the simplest 665 00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:44,799 Speaker 2: solutions of the solutions that have gone before. Yeah, that's 666 00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:46,880 Speaker 2: that's the thought. I mean, it seemed to me that 667 00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:50,200 Speaker 2: if if you had to be buzzed in, right, you 668 00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:53,160 Speaker 2: might make the assumption that you'd have to be buzzed out, 669 00:34:53,320 --> 00:34:58,839 Speaker 2: and therefore you almost grant an acknowledgment when you when 670 00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:02,520 Speaker 2: you buzz in that you also there's almost you might 671 00:35:02,600 --> 00:35:06,000 Speaker 2: even have some little sign that that by buzzing you in, uh, 672 00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:09,120 Speaker 2: you agree that you can only leave when you were 673 00:35:09,160 --> 00:35:09,680 Speaker 2: buzzed out. 674 00:35:10,520 --> 00:35:11,960 Speaker 9: That's that's impossibility. 675 00:35:12,080 --> 00:35:15,040 Speaker 12: Yeah, okay, I said, this has been a number of 676 00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:18,319 Speaker 12: years since I've been in one of those. 677 00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:21,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, everybody going into the sense. 678 00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:21,719 Speaker 6: Yeah. 679 00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:26,719 Speaker 12: So at the time, it wasn't Macy's, it was Jordan Maush. 680 00:35:28,239 --> 00:35:31,680 Speaker 2: Everything changes, Everything changes, Ellen. Are you a first time 681 00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:33,759 Speaker 2: I'm asking the question because we've had a bunch of 682 00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:36,879 Speaker 2: g are you a first time calling? 683 00:35:38,040 --> 00:35:40,759 Speaker 12: First time calling? But I have listened to your show. 684 00:35:41,040 --> 00:35:44,600 Speaker 2: Thank God for that. Thank God for that. That's three 685 00:35:45,640 --> 00:35:46,080 Speaker 2: in a row. 686 00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:51,160 Speaker 12: Ellen night, What if what is lol Lemon? I don't know. 687 00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:53,759 Speaker 2: Oh, it's a high end women it's a high end 688 00:35:54,520 --> 00:35:58,920 Speaker 2: women's retail chain. If you know any woman under the 689 00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:02,560 Speaker 2: age of forty thereby Lulu Lemon. Trust me on that. 690 00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:04,320 Speaker 4: Okay, Yeah, I've. 691 00:36:04,200 --> 00:36:07,839 Speaker 12: Never heard the name before. I noticed it on the news. Unfortunately. 692 00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:09,160 Speaker 3: Well, it's a high end. 693 00:36:09,239 --> 00:36:13,440 Speaker 2: It's it's a store. It's a women's very contemporary. Uh, 694 00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:15,920 Speaker 2: you go in to Lulu Lemon. You're bringing your your 695 00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:18,200 Speaker 2: credit card with you and you walking on with you 696 00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:22,479 Speaker 2: think is very stylish clothing. I'm gonna sneak. I gotta 697 00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:24,879 Speaker 2: sneak one more in here. Okay, thanks so much. Okay, 698 00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:28,080 Speaker 2: we'll talk. Have a great eat me too, Ellen, Thanks 699 00:36:28,160 --> 00:36:29,520 Speaker 2: very much. Then I go to John and deb and 700 00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:31,279 Speaker 2: John are gonna get you in here under the wire, 701 00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:31,960 Speaker 2: go right ahead. 702 00:36:32,920 --> 00:36:34,400 Speaker 4: Sorry, Dan, I've called before. 703 00:36:34,239 --> 00:36:36,160 Speaker 2: So that's okay. You broke the streak. 704 00:36:37,239 --> 00:36:40,160 Speaker 4: But uh, you know it said is it doesn't matter 705 00:36:40,239 --> 00:36:42,320 Speaker 4: what message you use. I think you can't touch it 706 00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:45,680 Speaker 4: for as long as there's little or no consequence, it's 707 00:36:45,719 --> 00:36:49,359 Speaker 4: gonna continue. It's not complicated, and you know, I don't 708 00:36:49,360 --> 00:36:51,000 Speaker 4: want to turn this political, but I don't think I 709 00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:54,719 Speaker 4: have a choice. That the Democrats need the criminal or 710 00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:58,279 Speaker 4: criminal family votes. If if you remember a while back, 711 00:36:58,320 --> 00:37:00,719 Speaker 4: there was like a stabbing or a pomp stapping in 712 00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:03,680 Speaker 4: a Chick fil A in Boston. Yes, yes, I think 713 00:37:03,719 --> 00:37:06,520 Speaker 4: the duty officers shot the suspect. 714 00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:06,759 Speaker 2: And killed them. 715 00:37:06,840 --> 00:37:10,000 Speaker 4: I believe they got and may whose first thoughts were 716 00:37:10,040 --> 00:37:13,200 Speaker 4: with the suspect, not the possible victims, not the officer. 717 00:37:13,640 --> 00:37:16,359 Speaker 4: That's for some reason, I don't know why the Democrats 718 00:37:16,719 --> 00:37:19,400 Speaker 4: just again, I can think it's they need their votes. 719 00:37:20,040 --> 00:37:22,319 Speaker 2: Well, I think I know why. I think it's one 720 00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:27,120 Speaker 2: that they assume that people who commit crime, their view 721 00:37:27,280 --> 00:37:29,759 Speaker 2: is that that people are not criminals per se, that 722 00:37:29,840 --> 00:37:34,799 Speaker 2: they commit crime because the economic system forces them into 723 00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:37,719 Speaker 2: a bad set of circumstances. I do think that is 724 00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:40,359 Speaker 2: at the core of their which is wrong too, by 725 00:37:40,400 --> 00:37:42,719 Speaker 2: the way, because there's plenty of people who are born 726 00:37:42,840 --> 00:37:45,560 Speaker 2: poor and they're very successful, and there were plenty of 727 00:37:45,600 --> 00:37:49,040 Speaker 2: people who were born wealthy. Look at Prince Andrew uh, 728 00:37:49,560 --> 00:37:52,000 Speaker 2: the guy over in England and who hasn't earned a 729 00:37:52,120 --> 00:37:56,120 Speaker 2: dollar in his entire life and is a complete reprobate. 730 00:37:57,280 --> 00:37:59,840 Speaker 4: They're going to make excuses. You know that. I understand 731 00:37:59,840 --> 00:38:02,000 Speaker 4: that like fifty years ago. But when you look at 732 00:38:02,040 --> 00:38:04,799 Speaker 4: some of these people who are stealing, they're not poor, 733 00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:08,600 Speaker 4: they're they're and for what I hear when when they 734 00:38:08,680 --> 00:38:11,760 Speaker 4: have the smash of grabs London's the crime is organized. 735 00:38:11,440 --> 00:38:13,759 Speaker 2: A great big time. When you yeah, when you see 736 00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:16,319 Speaker 2: fifteen and twenty people blowing in through a door, all 737 00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:20,120 Speaker 2: of whom have hammers and screwdrivers, and and they're all 738 00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:22,840 Speaker 2: already coming in, it isn't a coincidence that they that 739 00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:25,600 Speaker 2: eighteen or twenty people decided to rob the jewelry store 740 00:38:25,600 --> 00:38:29,000 Speaker 2: at that precise moment in time. Love to call John, 741 00:38:29,320 --> 00:38:30,319 Speaker 2: thank you for nae. 742 00:38:31,560 --> 00:38:33,279 Speaker 5: Thanks one last thing. 743 00:38:33,320 --> 00:38:34,640 Speaker 4: If I could have had time, I'll. 744 00:38:34,520 --> 00:38:36,560 Speaker 2: Tell you what. I'm gonna hold you over because I'm 745 00:38:36,760 --> 00:38:40,480 Speaker 2: flat up against the news. I'll hold you over. We'll 746 00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:42,480 Speaker 2: start with you on the other time. We're gonna stay 747 00:38:42,520 --> 00:38:45,160 Speaker 2: with this. Keep calling six one, seven, two, four, ten, thirty, 748 00:38:45,400 --> 00:38:49,080 Speaker 2: six one seven ninety. This has been a great topic. 749 00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:52,520 Speaker 2: And guess what you were welcome to join the conversation.