1 00:00:00,480 --> 00:00:05,520 Speaker 1: As Night Side with Dan Ray on WBS Costin's new video. 2 00:00:06,400 --> 00:00:08,680 Speaker 2: All Right, there's a story that is a huge story 3 00:00:08,760 --> 00:00:13,520 Speaker 2: that we cannot ignore, and it is the eleven o'clock hour, 4 00:00:13,880 --> 00:00:19,959 Speaker 2: so I am going to attempt to talk about the 5 00:00:20,079 --> 00:00:25,080 Speaker 2: disappearance of Savannah Guthrie's mom, Nancy. There have been some 6 00:00:25,160 --> 00:00:29,280 Speaker 2: developments in this story today. The FBI is now offering 7 00:00:29,320 --> 00:00:33,919 Speaker 2: a fifty thousand dollars reward for information leading to her 8 00:00:34,000 --> 00:00:40,920 Speaker 2: return in or the arrest and conviction of whoever abducted 9 00:00:40,960 --> 00:00:46,680 Speaker 2: her last Saturday night Sunday morning from her home outside 10 00:00:46,720 --> 00:00:55,680 Speaker 2: of outside of Tucson, Arizona. This is a really bizarre 11 00:00:56,080 --> 00:01:00,920 Speaker 2: and also interesting story. It's a sad story that an 12 00:01:00,920 --> 00:01:03,720 Speaker 2: eighty four year old woman apparently it was taken from 13 00:01:03,760 --> 00:01:06,480 Speaker 2: her home. She was still living independently at the age 14 00:01:06,520 --> 00:01:11,880 Speaker 2: of eighty four, according to her family members, not in 15 00:01:11,920 --> 00:01:17,959 Speaker 2: any way, shape or form limited, and the FBI's decision 16 00:01:18,000 --> 00:01:23,560 Speaker 2: to offer the fifty thousand dollars reward, well one, I 17 00:01:23,600 --> 00:01:28,280 Speaker 2: wish the reward had been offered earlier. She's woman apparently 18 00:01:28,400 --> 00:01:35,319 Speaker 2: is on some forms of medication, which without that medication, 19 00:01:35,360 --> 00:01:40,040 Speaker 2: which she does not have, her life is in jeopardy. 20 00:01:40,040 --> 00:01:42,560 Speaker 2: I think the FBI. I don't know why they didn't 21 00:01:42,640 --> 00:01:47,039 Speaker 2: jump on this earlier. I realize, Look, people aren't kidnapped 22 00:01:47,040 --> 00:01:49,400 Speaker 2: from their homes every night of the week in America, 23 00:01:49,600 --> 00:01:55,080 Speaker 2: Thank god. Okay, this is an odd case. We've had 24 00:01:55,200 --> 00:01:59,600 Speaker 2: other high profile cases over time, kids who have disappeared, 25 00:02:02,520 --> 00:02:06,000 Speaker 2: but this is an eighty four year old woman, and 26 00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:10,680 Speaker 2: I'd love to hear from some of you who have 27 00:02:10,800 --> 00:02:15,360 Speaker 2: followed the news on this. I'm looking at a story 28 00:02:15,360 --> 00:02:18,960 Speaker 2: posted by CBS at ten forty nine, so this is 29 00:02:19,080 --> 00:02:24,760 Speaker 2: eleven minutes old. Basically, it's a recap of the day. 30 00:02:24,840 --> 00:02:31,600 Speaker 2: So there's no breakthrough here. Nancy Guthrie is still out there, 31 00:02:31,760 --> 00:02:36,320 Speaker 2: according to investigators, high profile search in Arizona continues without 32 00:02:36,320 --> 00:02:39,440 Speaker 2: a suspect identa in this case. Now, apparently they did 33 00:02:40,000 --> 00:02:45,160 Speaker 2: arrest someone today who was so stupid, but there's a 34 00:02:45,160 --> 00:02:47,880 Speaker 2: lot of stupid people in America who sent a ransom 35 00:02:47,919 --> 00:02:53,400 Speaker 2: note had nothing to do with the abduction of Nancy Guthrie. 36 00:02:54,000 --> 00:02:57,799 Speaker 2: The FBI did announce a five fifty thousand dollars reward 37 00:02:57,880 --> 00:03:01,280 Speaker 2: for information leading to her recovery. Oh the arrest the 38 00:03:01,320 --> 00:03:04,919 Speaker 2: conviction of people involved in her disappearance it's according to 39 00:03:05,160 --> 00:03:08,800 Speaker 2: CBS story that just broke. But I mentioned that to 40 00:03:08,840 --> 00:03:15,800 Speaker 2: you earlier. There was another ransom note, which I guess 41 00:03:15,919 --> 00:03:20,160 Speaker 2: the authorities are taking seriously, which included a five pm 42 00:03:20,200 --> 00:03:26,160 Speaker 2: deadline today. No specificity as to five pm win five 43 00:03:26,200 --> 00:03:30,200 Speaker 2: pm East Coast time, five pm Arizona time, five pm 44 00:03:30,360 --> 00:03:33,720 Speaker 2: California time, which might be the same as Arizona time. 45 00:03:33,840 --> 00:03:41,400 Speaker 2: I don't know. Frightening story. Frightening story. Obviously, this is 46 00:03:41,440 --> 00:03:44,760 Speaker 2: a high profile family, certainly a high profile family in 47 00:03:44,800 --> 00:03:52,000 Speaker 2: the Tucson, Arizona area. It was tough to watch Savannah 48 00:03:52,000 --> 00:03:57,840 Speaker 2: Guthrie today talking about her mom and I have well, 49 00:03:57,840 --> 00:03:59,640 Speaker 2: I have four bites here which I want to play 50 00:03:59,640 --> 00:04:05,120 Speaker 2: for you again. You know, Savannah Guthrie is not a 51 00:04:05,560 --> 00:04:10,200 Speaker 2: She's a nationally known figure, but she works for one network, 52 00:04:10,280 --> 00:04:14,119 Speaker 2: the Today Show, and with the major networks now competing 53 00:04:14,160 --> 00:04:16,840 Speaker 2: with CNN and Fox, it's not like the old days 54 00:04:16,839 --> 00:04:21,520 Speaker 2: when everybody knew Walter Cronkite or everybody knew John Chancellor. 55 00:04:23,000 --> 00:04:25,840 Speaker 2: She has a fan base, and I'm sure she does 56 00:04:25,960 --> 00:04:29,440 Speaker 2: very well as the morning one of the morning co 57 00:04:29,560 --> 00:04:33,400 Speaker 2: hosts of The Today Show. But this is her family 58 00:04:33,440 --> 00:04:36,719 Speaker 2: released a statement which I want to play for you. 59 00:04:37,360 --> 00:04:45,440 Speaker 2: Rob Cut twenty three, Part one, Savannah Guthrie. 60 00:04:43,800 --> 00:04:45,080 Speaker 3: On behalf of our family. 61 00:04:46,839 --> 00:04:49,120 Speaker 4: We want to thank all of you for the prayers 62 00:04:49,480 --> 00:04:52,120 Speaker 4: for our beloved mom Fancy. 63 00:04:53,440 --> 00:04:56,080 Speaker 3: We feel them, and we. 64 00:04:56,279 --> 00:05:02,400 Speaker 4: Continue to believe that she feels them too. Our mom 65 00:05:03,200 --> 00:05:10,120 Speaker 4: is a kind, faithful, loyal, fiercely loving woman of goodness 66 00:05:10,320 --> 00:05:18,800 Speaker 4: and light. She's funny, spunky, and clever. She has grandchildren 67 00:05:18,880 --> 00:05:22,160 Speaker 4: that adore her and crowd around her and cover her 68 00:05:22,200 --> 00:05:28,440 Speaker 4: with kisses. She loves fun and adventure. She is a 69 00:05:28,440 --> 00:05:33,040 Speaker 4: devoted friend. She is full of kindness and knowledge. 70 00:05:33,920 --> 00:05:35,360 Speaker 3: Talk to her and you'll. 71 00:05:35,120 --> 00:05:44,720 Speaker 2: See that's tough to listen to. I don't know that's 72 00:05:44,760 --> 00:05:48,160 Speaker 2: going to reach the cold heart of whoever abducted her. 73 00:05:48,320 --> 00:05:50,720 Speaker 2: This is cut number twenty three A. This is part 74 00:05:50,800 --> 00:05:51,200 Speaker 2: two of. 75 00:05:51,160 --> 00:05:54,680 Speaker 5: That video up the light is missing from our lives. 76 00:05:57,400 --> 00:06:03,240 Speaker 5: Nancy is our mother. We are her children. She is 77 00:06:03,320 --> 00:06:03,919 Speaker 5: our beacon. 78 00:06:05,839 --> 00:06:11,480 Speaker 6: She holds fast to joy in all of life's circumstances. 79 00:06:12,480 --> 00:06:17,680 Speaker 6: She chooses joy day after day, despite having already passed 80 00:06:17,720 --> 00:06:18,600 Speaker 6: through great. 81 00:06:18,400 --> 00:06:21,120 Speaker 3: Trials of pain and grief. 82 00:06:23,279 --> 00:06:28,200 Speaker 6: We are always going to be merely human, just normal 83 00:06:28,320 --> 00:06:33,240 Speaker 6: human people who need our mom. 84 00:06:33,279 --> 00:06:40,799 Speaker 3: Mama, Mama. If you're listening. We need you to come home. 85 00:06:42,120 --> 00:06:42,680 Speaker 3: We miss you. 86 00:06:45,800 --> 00:06:48,559 Speaker 2: Okay, we're gonna take a break. I have a couple 87 00:06:48,560 --> 00:06:52,560 Speaker 2: of more sound bites that will I will play and 88 00:06:52,640 --> 00:06:56,320 Speaker 2: also a little bit from the Pima County. Pima County 89 00:06:56,400 --> 00:07:01,760 Speaker 2: is the county in Arizona where Nancy got three lives. 90 00:07:03,600 --> 00:07:10,800 Speaker 2: This is scary because this, you know, obviously there's going 91 00:07:10,840 --> 00:07:12,960 Speaker 2: to be a solution here one way or the other. 92 00:07:14,160 --> 00:07:16,080 Speaker 2: There's either going to be some sort of a happy 93 00:07:16,120 --> 00:07:19,120 Speaker 2: reunion and maybe arrest or maybe not arrest. I don't know. 94 00:07:19,880 --> 00:07:23,080 Speaker 2: I mean, if if some knuckleheads thought they could kidnap 95 00:07:23,120 --> 00:07:26,239 Speaker 2: her and get a quick fifty thousand or one hundred 96 00:07:26,280 --> 00:07:30,840 Speaker 2: thousand dollars, they have made a huge misjudgment and error. 97 00:07:32,840 --> 00:07:36,600 Speaker 2: I'd love to hear from you. I mean, this should 98 00:07:36,640 --> 00:07:40,360 Speaker 2: not happen to an eighty four year old woman. It 99 00:07:40,360 --> 00:07:43,679 Speaker 2: should not happen to anyone, but it should not happen 100 00:07:43,720 --> 00:07:46,400 Speaker 2: to an any four year old woman who has lived 101 00:07:46,400 --> 00:07:55,400 Speaker 2: her life from all accounts, a beautiful mom and someone 102 00:07:55,440 --> 00:08:00,679 Speaker 2: who apparently is is religious and has lived a pretty 103 00:08:00,680 --> 00:08:04,640 Speaker 2: good life. I don't know her at all, but it 104 00:08:04,720 --> 00:08:09,679 Speaker 2: troubles me that that that this can happen in our country, 105 00:08:09,800 --> 00:08:14,400 Speaker 2: and it should not. I have no idea who who 106 00:08:15,440 --> 00:08:19,440 Speaker 2: who has adopted her. I suspect the authorities don't know either. 107 00:08:19,880 --> 00:08:22,520 Speaker 2: But you know that this case will break at some 108 00:08:22,720 --> 00:08:26,600 Speaker 2: point and we'll probably move on as a society. But 109 00:08:26,760 --> 00:08:30,600 Speaker 2: just think what this family is going through. Tonight six one, seven, two, five, four, 110 00:08:30,680 --> 00:08:33,920 Speaker 2: ten thirty six one seven ninety who take a quick break, 111 00:08:33,960 --> 00:08:34,640 Speaker 2: be right back. 112 00:08:35,960 --> 00:08:40,920 Speaker 1: You're on Night Side with Dan Ray on Boston's news radio. 113 00:08:43,400 --> 00:08:47,360 Speaker 2: I want to work phone calls in here, but I 114 00:08:47,400 --> 00:08:52,000 Speaker 2: also want to play some of these sound bites. This 115 00:08:52,080 --> 00:08:57,839 Speaker 2: is Pima County Sheriff. His name is Chris Nanos. They 116 00:08:57,840 --> 00:09:01,760 Speaker 2: are elected officials out there. They're they're very active and 117 00:09:02,280 --> 00:09:07,640 Speaker 2: important political Sheriffs here are also elected, but they do 118 00:09:07,679 --> 00:09:11,319 Speaker 2: not have the same high profile the sheriffs in Arizona do. 119 00:09:11,760 --> 00:09:14,800 Speaker 2: This has cut twenty four, Please Rob, this is him 120 00:09:14,840 --> 00:09:15,679 Speaker 2: today right now. 121 00:09:16,840 --> 00:09:21,640 Speaker 7: We believe Nancy is still out there. We want our home. 122 00:09:23,640 --> 00:09:28,079 Speaker 7: Our department, the sheriff's department, along with all of our 123 00:09:28,160 --> 00:09:32,120 Speaker 7: partners at the FBI, have been working around the clock 124 00:09:34,360 --> 00:09:38,360 Speaker 7: and we just want her home and get and find 125 00:09:38,400 --> 00:09:39,960 Speaker 7: a way to get to the bottom of all of this. 126 00:09:40,360 --> 00:09:45,120 Speaker 2: Just as you do. Yeah, how do you think that's 127 00:09:45,120 --> 00:09:48,959 Speaker 2: going to fall in the years of the abductors. I mean, 128 00:09:49,800 --> 00:09:53,000 Speaker 2: they have to make sure that they don't panic the abductors, 129 00:09:53,600 --> 00:09:57,720 Speaker 2: and the abductors decide to leave her alone in the 130 00:09:57,760 --> 00:10:02,080 Speaker 2: desert and just you know, escape. I mean, this is 131 00:10:02,120 --> 00:10:06,640 Speaker 2: a tough spot for law enforcement. I'm looking for your analysis, 132 00:10:06,840 --> 00:10:10,520 Speaker 2: looking for your advice. What advice you would give to 133 00:10:10,559 --> 00:10:13,040 Speaker 2: the Guthrie family. What advice should give to the law 134 00:10:13,120 --> 00:10:18,000 Speaker 2: enforcement personnel here. I mean, if they can establish a 135 00:10:18,040 --> 00:10:21,000 Speaker 2: line of communication and figure out where she is, okay, 136 00:10:21,040 --> 00:10:25,000 Speaker 2: that's the best possible situation. But if the abductors now 137 00:10:25,120 --> 00:10:27,400 Speaker 2: get spooked and they decide, well, we're not going to 138 00:10:27,480 --> 00:10:30,719 Speaker 2: contact anymore. What do they do with an any four 139 00:10:30,800 --> 00:10:35,559 Speaker 2: year old woman, Well, they might decide that she's more 140 00:10:35,600 --> 00:10:39,319 Speaker 2: trouble than she's worth. Driver. There's a lot of empty 141 00:10:39,320 --> 00:10:43,000 Speaker 2: space out in that part of the country. I don't know. 142 00:10:44,160 --> 00:10:48,160 Speaker 2: Six seven two thirty, six seven, nine, three, one ten thirty. 143 00:10:48,240 --> 00:10:50,520 Speaker 2: Trying something a little different. See if it interests you, 144 00:10:50,960 --> 00:10:53,839 Speaker 2: let me go to Lola in San Diego. Lola, I 145 00:10:53,920 --> 00:10:57,640 Speaker 2: know that you will have an observation here. I do, Well, 146 00:10:57,840 --> 00:10:58,720 Speaker 2: what do you think. 147 00:11:00,320 --> 00:11:04,560 Speaker 8: I'm on Facebook and there was posts, and this one 148 00:11:04,600 --> 00:11:10,880 Speaker 8: particular post caught my eye, so allegedly. I'm not going 149 00:11:10,920 --> 00:11:13,000 Speaker 8: to give the guy's name that posted it, but he's 150 00:11:13,000 --> 00:11:16,400 Speaker 8: saying nobody seems to want to talk about Nancy Duthrie 151 00:11:16,400 --> 00:11:19,480 Speaker 8: and her son in law, Mike Feldman. Mike worked for 152 00:11:19,559 --> 00:11:22,600 Speaker 8: the Clintons is their political consultants for eight years. 153 00:11:24,480 --> 00:11:28,800 Speaker 2: Lola, please be careful here, Please be careful. I don't 154 00:11:28,800 --> 00:11:34,240 Speaker 2: want anyone to use, you know, my show or my 155 00:11:34,679 --> 00:11:38,600 Speaker 2: yeah yeah program can help me because I don't. 156 00:11:38,440 --> 00:11:39,400 Speaker 8: Want to break the rule. 157 00:11:39,440 --> 00:11:41,800 Speaker 2: I don't want Well, here's the problem. You might have 158 00:11:41,880 --> 00:11:45,640 Speaker 2: broken the rule already if you're going to The authorities 159 00:11:45,679 --> 00:11:49,760 Speaker 2: are saying, as of right now that there is there 160 00:11:50,440 --> 00:11:53,840 Speaker 2: is no suspect or suspects that they know of. They 161 00:11:53,880 --> 00:11:59,760 Speaker 2: did arrest, they did arrest this individual who apparently thought 162 00:11:59,760 --> 00:12:02,479 Speaker 2: they were this is an opportunity to make some easy money. 163 00:12:02,840 --> 00:12:07,040 Speaker 2: What a knucklehead that is. Okay, So I just I 164 00:12:07,080 --> 00:12:10,839 Speaker 2: don't just listen hear me out. Okay. I don't want 165 00:12:10,880 --> 00:12:14,400 Speaker 2: to have to cut you off. Okay, but I don't 166 00:12:14,480 --> 00:12:18,400 Speaker 2: know what you want to say. I've invited you a call. 167 00:12:19,040 --> 00:12:22,320 Speaker 2: You're a smart person. Just listen to me. Please don't 168 00:12:22,440 --> 00:12:24,200 Speaker 2: yep me, don't yes me to death, or I'm going 169 00:12:24,280 --> 00:12:26,480 Speaker 2: to have to cut you off. I want to tell 170 00:12:26,480 --> 00:12:29,640 Speaker 2: you we have a ten second delay. So if you 171 00:12:29,760 --> 00:12:35,520 Speaker 2: go somewhere that is problematic for me, I have no choice. 172 00:12:35,600 --> 00:12:38,319 Speaker 2: I can still, you know, love you as a person, 173 00:12:38,559 --> 00:12:42,199 Speaker 2: but but I can't get myself in trouble. So if 174 00:12:42,240 --> 00:12:46,839 Speaker 2: there is some person out there who's making allegations on 175 00:12:46,880 --> 00:12:50,960 Speaker 2: the internet, that doesn't make my show. So please don't 176 00:12:51,000 --> 00:12:54,960 Speaker 2: go there. Okay, I'd love to know what you think. 177 00:12:56,600 --> 00:13:03,719 Speaker 8: Well, I, based on what I've seen, there could be 178 00:13:03,760 --> 00:13:09,880 Speaker 8: a connection to what Savannah knows about certain things out 179 00:13:09,920 --> 00:13:14,839 Speaker 8: in the news, and maybe somebody's trying to do a 180 00:13:14,880 --> 00:13:17,280 Speaker 8: scan a tactic for her not to Yeah. 181 00:13:17,800 --> 00:13:21,400 Speaker 2: I first of all, I appreciate you phrasing it that way, 182 00:13:22,200 --> 00:13:27,880 Speaker 2: because but I do believe, I do believe that that 183 00:13:27,880 --> 00:13:30,920 Speaker 2: that's if someone is suggesting that that is a far 184 00:13:31,120 --> 00:13:34,400 Speaker 2: fetched theory because. 185 00:13:34,160 --> 00:13:35,040 Speaker 8: We never know. 186 00:13:35,440 --> 00:13:39,720 Speaker 2: That's the problem, right, right, Carose, that we don't know. No, 187 00:13:40,320 --> 00:13:44,880 Speaker 2: what I'm saying to you is we will have resolution 188 00:13:45,040 --> 00:13:46,800 Speaker 2: to this in some period of time. 189 00:13:46,840 --> 00:13:46,960 Speaker 8: Now. 190 00:13:46,960 --> 00:13:48,760 Speaker 2: I don't know if it's going to be a day, 191 00:13:48,840 --> 00:13:52,400 Speaker 2: a week, a month, or a year. Okay, the worst 192 00:13:52,440 --> 00:13:57,520 Speaker 2: case scenario would be that whoever kidnapped this eighty four 193 00:13:57,559 --> 00:14:01,600 Speaker 2: year old woman and whatever the emotive. Uh, if the 194 00:14:01,679 --> 00:14:05,120 Speaker 2: situation gets really hot, and if they were in amateurs 195 00:14:05,160 --> 00:14:07,280 Speaker 2: and thought, oh well, kidnap the eighty four year old, 196 00:14:07,320 --> 00:14:10,040 Speaker 2: she won't give us a hard time and her family 197 00:14:10,080 --> 00:14:12,080 Speaker 2: has money, you know, just let's let's keep it at 198 00:14:12,120 --> 00:14:14,880 Speaker 2: that level. And if the situation gets all of a sudden, 199 00:14:15,000 --> 00:14:17,480 Speaker 2: say you know that these these guys are looking at 200 00:14:17,480 --> 00:14:19,600 Speaker 2: each other and saying, no, we got the FBI are 201 00:14:19,600 --> 00:14:21,720 Speaker 2: going to be chasing us. We got to get rid 202 00:14:21,720 --> 00:14:24,080 Speaker 2: of her. Or if the woman, let's say dies, let's 203 00:14:24,120 --> 00:14:27,840 Speaker 2: assume hypothetically, you know, didn't have her meds and died, 204 00:14:28,400 --> 00:14:30,520 Speaker 2: a lot of these knuckleheads are going to say, well, 205 00:14:30,520 --> 00:14:32,120 Speaker 2: we've got to get rid of her. So what are 206 00:14:32,120 --> 00:14:34,080 Speaker 2: they going to do out there. They're not gonna throw 207 00:14:34,080 --> 00:14:35,720 Speaker 2: her in the ocean. They're gonna take it to as 208 00:14:35,720 --> 00:14:37,800 Speaker 2: far in the middle of the desert as they can. 209 00:14:38,000 --> 00:14:40,360 Speaker 2: And and so we couldn't. 210 00:14:40,040 --> 00:14:43,120 Speaker 8: Be close to Mexico just so you know, no, I 211 00:14:43,200 --> 00:14:43,440 Speaker 8: know that. 212 00:14:43,640 --> 00:14:45,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, well I've been in Tucson, so I know that 213 00:14:45,920 --> 00:14:48,520 Speaker 2: it is within you know, thirty or forty miles of 214 00:14:48,520 --> 00:14:52,760 Speaker 2: the Mexican border. And you know, I have no idea. 215 00:14:53,120 --> 00:14:56,080 Speaker 2: But as they say, I appreciate your calling. I really do. 216 00:14:56,200 --> 00:15:00,280 Speaker 2: And I appreciate you listening to what I had to say, because. 217 00:15:00,560 --> 00:15:03,360 Speaker 8: Absolutely I always want to obey you. And that's why 218 00:15:03,440 --> 00:15:04,880 Speaker 8: I started with allegedly. 219 00:15:05,280 --> 00:15:09,120 Speaker 2: No, I just but allegedly doesn't always get get it done. OK, 220 00:15:11,320 --> 00:15:15,200 Speaker 2: no problem. And guess what if if the theory that 221 00:15:15,360 --> 00:15:20,200 Speaker 2: you read somewhere actually turns out to be true, I 222 00:15:20,320 --> 00:15:23,880 Speaker 2: invite you. I can invite you. I invite you to 223 00:15:23,960 --> 00:15:25,680 Speaker 2: call me back and say, hey, Dan, remember when I 224 00:15:25,720 --> 00:15:29,360 Speaker 2: called you last Thursday? Sadly I was right? Okay, but 225 00:15:29,760 --> 00:15:33,520 Speaker 2: I can't. Yeah, it's just that it's the rules under 226 00:15:33,560 --> 00:15:39,920 Speaker 2: which we function. Okay, we believe I know, gotcha, fair enough, Okay, 227 00:15:40,360 --> 00:15:41,040 Speaker 2: thank you much. 228 00:15:43,120 --> 00:15:44,800 Speaker 8: I just pray they find her. 229 00:15:45,160 --> 00:15:45,440 Speaker 9: We do. 230 00:15:45,840 --> 00:15:47,840 Speaker 2: Oh, and I hope they find her alive. And I 231 00:15:47,880 --> 00:15:53,640 Speaker 2: hope that this is some uh misunderstanding. I mean, you know, 232 00:15:53,760 --> 00:15:57,640 Speaker 2: you just don't know. Look, within every family, you can 233 00:15:57,720 --> 00:16:01,320 Speaker 2: have arguments and disagreements and all of that was so 234 00:16:01,480 --> 00:16:03,840 Speaker 2: you don't know, you don't know. But I just tell 235 00:16:03,920 --> 00:16:08,400 Speaker 2: you this. I don't know Savannah got three, never met 236 00:16:08,400 --> 00:16:10,600 Speaker 2: her never to the best of my knowledge, she wouldn't 237 00:16:10,640 --> 00:16:14,640 Speaker 2: know me from Adam. But she comes across as somebody 238 00:16:14,640 --> 00:16:18,840 Speaker 2: in a crisis, as a pretty normal woman, a really 239 00:16:19,000 --> 00:16:23,760 Speaker 2: normal daughter who was focused, focused on the needs of 240 00:16:23,800 --> 00:16:27,160 Speaker 2: her mom. And of course we all have to identify 241 00:16:27,200 --> 00:16:28,160 Speaker 2: with that, all right. 242 00:16:28,880 --> 00:16:31,640 Speaker 8: I'm just you know one thing before you go. They 243 00:16:31,680 --> 00:16:34,080 Speaker 8: could have picked her up and carried her so that 244 00:16:34,160 --> 00:16:40,040 Speaker 8: her shoes. Her scent is off the ground now because 245 00:16:40,120 --> 00:16:43,720 Speaker 8: they had the dogs there and they can't find anything, right. 246 00:16:43,800 --> 00:16:46,000 Speaker 2: But what I'm saying is once they put her in 247 00:16:46,040 --> 00:16:49,000 Speaker 2: a car, they might have been able to have the 248 00:16:49,040 --> 00:16:51,440 Speaker 2: dogs the next day follow her scent if they gave 249 00:16:51,480 --> 00:16:54,600 Speaker 2: the dog piece of her clothing and follow her out 250 00:16:54,640 --> 00:16:58,240 Speaker 2: the door. There's a blood splatter, which probably would that 251 00:16:58,320 --> 00:17:01,240 Speaker 2: would tell them where she was and maybe follow her out. 252 00:17:01,480 --> 00:17:03,280 Speaker 2: They're not going to walk up the road with her. 253 00:17:03,560 --> 00:17:05,920 Speaker 2: They're going to throw in a car, and once she's 254 00:17:05,920 --> 00:17:09,680 Speaker 2: in the car, the s the set ends there, So that's. 255 00:17:09,520 --> 00:17:13,320 Speaker 8: Probably and the ring cameras, the ring cameras will disconnected. 256 00:17:13,520 --> 00:17:16,160 Speaker 2: That's what's interesting to me, because somebody has to have 257 00:17:16,280 --> 00:17:20,760 Speaker 2: some electronic capability to to be able to get to 258 00:17:20,840 --> 00:17:24,840 Speaker 2: a house and disconnect the ring camera without And again 259 00:17:25,480 --> 00:17:27,359 Speaker 2: there are people out there who know more about ring 260 00:17:27,440 --> 00:17:31,040 Speaker 2: cameras than I do. How does somebody disconnect the ring 261 00:17:31,119 --> 00:17:34,480 Speaker 2: camera without having been seen by the ring camera? 262 00:17:35,800 --> 00:17:38,680 Speaker 8: Well, my mother, my mother put a band aid over 263 00:17:38,720 --> 00:17:42,320 Speaker 8: her camera. My mother put a because she wanted privacy. 264 00:17:42,760 --> 00:17:44,560 Speaker 8: She put a band aid over the camera on the 265 00:17:44,600 --> 00:17:45,040 Speaker 8: back door. 266 00:17:45,400 --> 00:17:49,760 Speaker 2: Why why did you have a ring camera if she 267 00:17:49,800 --> 00:17:50,600 Speaker 2: wanted privacy? 268 00:17:52,040 --> 00:17:54,679 Speaker 8: I put it on because I wasn't there, And I 269 00:17:54,720 --> 00:17:58,040 Speaker 8: said to her, you are going to live alone, have 270 00:17:58,280 --> 00:17:59,360 Speaker 8: to have a camera. 271 00:17:59,680 --> 00:18:02,280 Speaker 2: I got your a good daughter too, So you should 272 00:18:02,400 --> 00:18:06,399 Speaker 2: identify with with Savannah Guthrie. All right, rolla, I gotta 273 00:18:06,560 --> 00:18:08,800 Speaker 2: I gotta run. We'll talk to keep in touch on 274 00:18:08,840 --> 00:18:09,160 Speaker 2: this one. 275 00:18:09,160 --> 00:18:10,960 Speaker 10: Okay, you have a great night. 276 00:18:11,200 --> 00:18:14,680 Speaker 2: Let me go to Doug in Eastern Massachusetts, the town 277 00:18:14,720 --> 00:18:18,760 Speaker 2: of Eastern Doug. Your thoughts on the Nancy Guthrie abduction, 278 00:18:19,080 --> 00:18:21,560 Speaker 2: which now has gone on for what five days? 279 00:18:22,280 --> 00:18:24,880 Speaker 11: I know, it's terrible. Yeah, I'm anna old. I'm gonna 280 00:18:24,880 --> 00:18:29,960 Speaker 11: old celt the guy. Actually, here's my take, right, Yeah, 281 00:18:30,640 --> 00:18:34,440 Speaker 11: these are cold buttered people. Cold buttered people could kill less. 282 00:18:34,560 --> 00:18:37,920 Speaker 11: You tell them that you're pleading that your loving mother. 283 00:18:38,080 --> 00:18:42,199 Speaker 11: She's a great mother. They could kill less. My thing is, 284 00:18:42,359 --> 00:18:45,240 Speaker 11: what if she was to hold up a document saying, listen, 285 00:18:46,240 --> 00:18:50,560 Speaker 11: leave my mother at a place that, uh, that's populated, 286 00:18:51,680 --> 00:18:53,520 Speaker 11: at a place where we can pick her up. We'll 287 00:18:53,520 --> 00:18:55,880 Speaker 11: give you plenty of time, and I'm going to sign 288 00:18:56,000 --> 00:19:00,199 Speaker 11: this document saying I will not press any charges. There 289 00:19:00,200 --> 00:19:03,960 Speaker 11: will be no charges signed, seal whatever, Just go away, 290 00:19:04,560 --> 00:19:07,880 Speaker 11: leave my mother right now. These guys, these people are trapped. 291 00:19:08,920 --> 00:19:11,240 Speaker 2: So here's the problem with that, Doug. It sounds like 292 00:19:11,320 --> 00:19:14,919 Speaker 2: a great idea, but the problem with that is the 293 00:19:14,960 --> 00:19:19,040 Speaker 2: Guthrie family does not have the authority to do that, okay. 294 00:19:20,440 --> 00:19:24,760 Speaker 2: And the reason is, whenever someone commits a crime, and 295 00:19:24,880 --> 00:19:29,640 Speaker 2: obviously this is a kidnapping and abduction, whatever you want, 296 00:19:29,920 --> 00:19:35,320 Speaker 2: the I don't know how she would even be able 297 00:19:35,359 --> 00:19:38,960 Speaker 2: to do well. The authorities don't have the authority to 298 00:19:39,000 --> 00:19:45,119 Speaker 2: do that either, because because the kidnapping of Nancy Guthrie, 299 00:19:45,680 --> 00:19:49,600 Speaker 2: it's a crime against the people. When the prosecution of 300 00:19:49,680 --> 00:19:55,080 Speaker 2: a criminal occurs, it's the Commonwealth versus Joe Smith. It's 301 00:19:55,320 --> 00:19:59,639 Speaker 2: the District Attorney's office, Norfolk County District Attorney, or the 302 00:19:59,760 --> 00:20:02,760 Speaker 2: United Nited States Attorney. So the problem that you have 303 00:20:02,840 --> 00:20:06,600 Speaker 2: here is, Okay, she's been abducted. Uh, you'd like to 304 00:20:06,640 --> 00:20:11,280 Speaker 2: say the top priority should be to get her reunited 305 00:20:11,280 --> 00:20:14,880 Speaker 2: with her family. We agree on that. So so how 306 00:20:14,920 --> 00:20:19,399 Speaker 2: do the authorities in effect give these this individual or 307 00:20:19,440 --> 00:20:26,399 Speaker 2: this group of individuals a pass at any criminal in 308 00:20:26,480 --> 00:20:29,480 Speaker 2: criminal charges? How did how do they do that. 309 00:20:29,920 --> 00:20:34,600 Speaker 11: Without forget about? I'd say, forget about. The whole country 310 00:20:34,680 --> 00:20:37,080 Speaker 11: is upside down and screwed because of people going by 311 00:20:37,119 --> 00:20:40,399 Speaker 11: the law. It's not working right. These guys need a 312 00:20:40,440 --> 00:20:44,760 Speaker 11: way out. If it's guys, they need a path out 313 00:20:44,760 --> 00:20:48,760 Speaker 11: of the mess. So whatever you have to do, that's 314 00:20:48,800 --> 00:20:52,000 Speaker 11: what I would do. Well again, I listen to this 315 00:20:52,119 --> 00:20:54,600 Speaker 11: radio station, but I'm sure you could do something that 316 00:20:54,640 --> 00:20:55,480 Speaker 11: would trickle. 317 00:20:55,920 --> 00:20:58,160 Speaker 2: Know what I'm saying. What I'm saying to you, Doug, 318 00:20:58,320 --> 00:21:02,760 Speaker 2: is that that the people who are running that investigation. 319 00:21:03,960 --> 00:21:06,760 Speaker 2: I mean, let me give you an example, and I'm 320 00:21:06,760 --> 00:21:10,720 Speaker 2: going to break it down simply. Let's assume that they 321 00:21:10,760 --> 00:21:16,600 Speaker 2: abducted Nancy Guthrie on Saturday, on Sunday morning, okay, and 322 00:21:16,720 --> 00:21:21,760 Speaker 2: let's assume that somehow they had the phone number of 323 00:21:21,800 --> 00:21:24,560 Speaker 2: the Guthrie family, make the assumption with me play the 324 00:21:24,600 --> 00:21:28,040 Speaker 2: game for a second. That okay. And two hours after 325 00:21:28,080 --> 00:21:32,320 Speaker 2: they abducted her, the woman Nancy Guthrie said, you know 326 00:21:32,640 --> 00:21:37,480 Speaker 2: you've you've kidnapped me, but I have heart medication back 327 00:21:37,520 --> 00:21:41,520 Speaker 2: at my home. And they're going to say, well, we're 328 00:21:41,560 --> 00:21:44,120 Speaker 2: not driving back to your home. Man, Well sorry about that, 329 00:21:44,240 --> 00:21:45,920 Speaker 2: but you know, this is what we do for a living. 330 00:21:45,960 --> 00:21:49,119 Speaker 2: We abduct people or whatever. And if she said, look, 331 00:21:49,480 --> 00:21:54,200 Speaker 2: my daughter is wealthy, this is her phone number. Why 332 00:21:54,280 --> 00:21:57,640 Speaker 2: don't you call her right now before the police get involved, 333 00:21:57,680 --> 00:22:00,800 Speaker 2: they don't even know. Apparently they did realize she was 334 00:22:00,840 --> 00:22:04,359 Speaker 2: gone until Sunday morning when she didn't show up at church. Okay, 335 00:22:04,520 --> 00:22:11,480 Speaker 2: So yeah, even if even if the abductor called, somehow 336 00:22:12,200 --> 00:22:14,240 Speaker 2: one of the gout three family members that said, look, 337 00:22:15,359 --> 00:22:19,760 Speaker 2: you do not do not do anything. We have your mother. 338 00:22:20,560 --> 00:22:24,960 Speaker 2: We want ten thousand dollars in cash, but if you 339 00:22:25,080 --> 00:22:29,560 Speaker 2: call the cops, you'll never see your mother again and 340 00:22:30,520 --> 00:22:35,560 Speaker 2: we will drive her back. But you know if well 341 00:22:35,760 --> 00:22:39,800 Speaker 2: we will, we will arrange with you. Do not call 342 00:22:39,840 --> 00:22:41,680 Speaker 2: the cops. Let's assume they were able to do that. 343 00:22:41,960 --> 00:22:45,720 Speaker 2: And somehow they said, look, we're going to leave her 344 00:22:47,400 --> 00:22:50,240 Speaker 2: at a location in Tucson, and we're going to tell 345 00:22:50,280 --> 00:22:53,719 Speaker 2: her to sit there a donut shop whatever. But we 346 00:22:53,760 --> 00:22:55,960 Speaker 2: want to come to your house. Give us the cash, 347 00:22:56,080 --> 00:22:58,760 Speaker 2: and we will tell you the address and we will stay. 348 00:22:58,800 --> 00:23:02,440 Speaker 2: Stay whatever. Some how, some way, and the authorities were involved, 349 00:23:02,960 --> 00:23:05,400 Speaker 2: they would still have to be prosecuted. They would still 350 00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:09,560 Speaker 2: have to be prosecuted because once the authorities found out 351 00:23:09,560 --> 00:23:12,320 Speaker 2: about it, somehow, some way they'd find out about it. 352 00:23:12,359 --> 00:23:14,359 Speaker 2: They go to the gut Three family, they'd said, was 353 00:23:14,359 --> 00:23:17,560 Speaker 2: your mother abducted? You got to tell us the truth? Yes. 354 00:23:18,600 --> 00:23:22,920 Speaker 11: So the problem is we're talking about the law, which 355 00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:27,000 Speaker 11: is usually a mess. These people need, at a minimum, 356 00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:31,399 Speaker 11: the way I see everything I'm hearing these abductives need, 357 00:23:32,320 --> 00:23:34,800 Speaker 11: even if it's a long shot. They have no. 358 00:23:35,040 --> 00:23:38,080 Speaker 2: Understand what you're saying. No, no, Look, you know what 359 00:23:38,760 --> 00:23:42,200 Speaker 2: you're thinking outside the box. You're thinking outside the box. 360 00:23:42,280 --> 00:23:46,440 Speaker 2: But but on something like this you can't get out 361 00:23:46,440 --> 00:23:49,679 Speaker 2: of the box anyway. Doug, thanks for the call. That 362 00:23:49,760 --> 00:23:53,920 Speaker 2: was a good call. Have you called before? This is 363 00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:54,480 Speaker 2: your first doc? 364 00:23:54,880 --> 00:23:57,240 Speaker 11: No, I've never called. That's thinking about a million years 365 00:23:57,280 --> 00:23:58,040 Speaker 11: ago I might have called. 366 00:23:58,280 --> 00:24:00,560 Speaker 2: No, if you're a first DOT call, we're gonna get 367 00:24:00,560 --> 00:24:01,960 Speaker 2: a drive of her pause, and I hope you can 368 00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:04,040 Speaker 2: back more often. Okay, thank you, Doug, appreciate it. 369 00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:04,920 Speaker 11: Thank you. 370 00:24:04,920 --> 00:24:07,320 Speaker 2: I catch you, good night. Okay, I got wide open 371 00:24:07,359 --> 00:24:09,840 Speaker 2: lines here, folks. We're talking about something that Doug had 372 00:24:09,840 --> 00:24:12,720 Speaker 2: made a very interesting call. Lola was very respectful and 373 00:24:12,800 --> 00:24:14,760 Speaker 2: did not go I have no idea where she was 374 00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:16,639 Speaker 2: going to go. But I know Lola well enough to 375 00:24:16,680 --> 00:24:19,200 Speaker 2: know that she might have been telling me about something 376 00:24:19,280 --> 00:24:21,800 Speaker 2: in someone's name, and all of that can't go there. 377 00:24:22,359 --> 00:24:29,160 Speaker 2: How do you think this can end? I I'm always 378 00:24:29,160 --> 00:24:34,880 Speaker 2: a hopeful person, but the longer this goes, the less 379 00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:38,680 Speaker 2: hope I hold. We'll take a break. Six one, seven, two, five, 380 00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:42,280 Speaker 2: four ten thirty six one seven, nine three one ten thirty. 381 00:24:43,600 --> 00:24:48,560 Speaker 2: This is a huge story. I'd love to get your 382 00:24:48,600 --> 00:24:50,960 Speaker 2: take on it. I think the FBI should have put 383 00:24:50,960 --> 00:24:54,639 Speaker 2: out a bigger reward for this earlier in the week. Okay, 384 00:24:55,720 --> 00:24:58,040 Speaker 2: because there must be some people out there who know 385 00:24:58,119 --> 00:25:01,880 Speaker 2: about it and not the nappers. The kidnappers know about it, 386 00:25:02,320 --> 00:25:05,560 Speaker 2: someone has to blow the whistle on the kidnappers. She's 387 00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:08,800 Speaker 2: somewhere and that's the only way this will land. If 388 00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:10,840 Speaker 2: they can get to where the kidnappers and where the 389 00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:14,359 Speaker 2: kidnap victim is in my opinion, or it could end 390 00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:17,000 Speaker 2: really badly. Back on Night Side, six one seven two 391 00:25:17,080 --> 00:25:19,720 Speaker 2: five four ten thirty. Six one seven nine three one 392 00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:22,400 Speaker 2: ten thirty, here's the news. 393 00:25:23,240 --> 00:25:26,639 Speaker 1: You're on nights Side with Dan Ray. I'm w BZY 394 00:25:26,960 --> 00:25:28,120 Speaker 1: Boston's News Radio. 395 00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:31,960 Speaker 2: Thanks very much. Dan. By the way, we are having 396 00:25:32,040 --> 00:25:37,800 Speaker 2: trouble with our one of our phone lines. So we'll 397 00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:40,399 Speaker 2: hopefully get this fixed by tomorrow, but we're not going 398 00:25:40,480 --> 00:25:43,560 Speaker 2: to get it fixed by midnight. So if you want 399 00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:45,640 Speaker 2: to call, the only number to call is six one 400 00:25:45,720 --> 00:25:49,199 Speaker 2: seven two five four ten thirty the other line, and 401 00:25:49,240 --> 00:25:52,560 Speaker 2: you know that number. Uh, we're putting it out of 402 00:25:52,600 --> 00:25:55,439 Speaker 2: commission at six one seven nine three one ten thirty. 403 00:25:55,760 --> 00:25:59,280 Speaker 2: That's not working. I don't want you to call that number. 404 00:26:00,760 --> 00:26:03,040 Speaker 2: Hopefully'll be back working by tomorrow night. So if you 405 00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:05,960 Speaker 2: want to call six one seven two five four ten thirty, 406 00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:12,840 Speaker 2: let me if I can get right back to the calls. 407 00:26:12,920 --> 00:26:16,040 Speaker 2: Let me go to Eileen and Cambridge. Eileen, I'd love 408 00:26:16,119 --> 00:26:19,480 Speaker 2: to know what your your take on this is. You're 409 00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:22,320 Speaker 2: you're someone who I know and you get a lot 410 00:26:22,359 --> 00:26:28,600 Speaker 2: of common sense. This is bothered bothering me immensely go ahead. 411 00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:30,560 Speaker 10: It's terrible. 412 00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:31,359 Speaker 3: Uh. 413 00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:38,200 Speaker 10: And I am living in and assisted living at this point. 414 00:26:38,760 --> 00:26:44,760 Speaker 10: I'm also elderly, and I'm just so grateful not to 415 00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:48,920 Speaker 10: be living by myself. And I'm grateful to my son 416 00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:56,400 Speaker 10: who insisted that I could not live alone anymore. And 417 00:26:57,920 --> 00:27:05,920 Speaker 10: I I, you know, I think something like that could 418 00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:06,639 Speaker 10: have happened to me. 419 00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:10,040 Speaker 2: I lean, I hear it in your voice. I know 420 00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:13,639 Speaker 2: you pretty well. There was one arrest today, but I 421 00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:16,560 Speaker 2: want to make it very clear it had nothing to 422 00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:19,960 Speaker 2: do with the actual kidnapping. But believe it or not, 423 00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:27,880 Speaker 2: some jerk whose name was Derek Kalela or Kalala sent 424 00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:32,240 Speaker 2: allegedly sent the text to the family on February fourth, 425 00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:38,040 Speaker 2: which would have been yesterday, shortly after the gouth three 426 00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:42,760 Speaker 2: children posted the video that we've played, and he had 427 00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:45,000 Speaker 2: a follow up he said, did you get the bitcoin? 428 00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:49,760 Speaker 2: Waiting on our end for the transaction. So to the 429 00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:53,240 Speaker 2: credit of the FBI, they said that Khalala used a 430 00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:56,680 Speaker 2: program to disguise his phone number. However, agents was still 431 00:27:56,720 --> 00:27:59,879 Speaker 2: able to trace the text message to an ip ad 432 00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:04,000 Speaker 2: linked to his home in California. According to the criminal 433 00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:07,320 Speaker 2: complaint filed against him. Good job by the NBI. There 434 00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:11,560 Speaker 2: agents arrested him today in Hawthorne, which is about five 435 00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:16,240 Speaker 2: mins away from the Los Angeles Airport LAX. In the 436 00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:19,119 Speaker 2: criminal complaint, the FBI said he admitted to sending the 437 00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:24,040 Speaker 2: message after he found the family's information online. Investigator said 438 00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:27,400 Speaker 2: he also tried to call Nancy Guthrie's family shortly after 439 00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:30,840 Speaker 2: sending the text. The two text messages had not been 440 00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:36,120 Speaker 2: linked to the actual ransom deduction to demand the remsen 441 00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:39,840 Speaker 2: demand or to the abduction. His first court appearance as 442 00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:43,000 Speaker 2: scheduled for tomorrow at six o'clock. He faces two charges 443 00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:48,640 Speaker 2: related to the phony ransom check. In addition, in October 444 00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:51,120 Speaker 2: of twenty twenty five, this is three months ago or 445 00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:57,120 Speaker 2: four months ago La County. In La County, employee matching 446 00:28:57,200 --> 00:29:01,800 Speaker 2: his name and birth year was with grand theft after 447 00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:06,840 Speaker 2: allegedly filing fraudulent unemployment claims during the COVID nineteen pandemic. 448 00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:09,720 Speaker 2: He pleaded not guilty. So it looks like this guy 449 00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:12,760 Speaker 2: is a scam artist who tried to really take advantage 450 00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:20,160 Speaker 2: of the situation. Some people, you just it's amazing how 451 00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:22,360 Speaker 2: low they they can go, simple as that. 452 00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:28,120 Speaker 10: Yeah, well it's really sad and I certainly identify with 453 00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:35,280 Speaker 10: the grief of her children, and I just encourage I 454 00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:40,200 Speaker 10: feel so much safer living in an assisted living especially 455 00:29:40,200 --> 00:29:44,080 Speaker 10: in this very very cold weather. I don't have to 456 00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:46,360 Speaker 10: go out, I don't have to go shopping, I don't 457 00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:47,360 Speaker 10: have to do anything. 458 00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:51,760 Speaker 2: That's good. Well, I'm happy for you too, Eileen, and 459 00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:54,040 Speaker 2: I know that you've you've been a very active person 460 00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:58,440 Speaker 2: throughout your entire life. But thank you for calling tonight, 461 00:29:58,520 --> 00:30:02,440 Speaker 2: and thank you for joining the conversation and providing that perspective. 462 00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:03,840 Speaker 2: I really do appreciate it. 463 00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:07,800 Speaker 10: Okay, well, thank you, Thanks, Thanks Sam oh. 464 00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:11,040 Speaker 2: Ye, talk later, Thanks Thanks. Am all right, we got 465 00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:13,680 Speaker 2: Linda in Weymouth and Catherine and Lowell. I promise I'm 466 00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:15,320 Speaker 2: we'll get you folks here. I got to take a 467 00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:18,320 Speaker 2: very quick break here. In the meantime, Rob, let me 468 00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:22,240 Speaker 2: just play one more SoundBite. I believe these are all 469 00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:27,240 Speaker 2: from Savannah Guthrie. This is one twenty three C. She's 470 00:30:27,280 --> 00:30:31,360 Speaker 2: speaking directly to her mom, and it's pretty emotional. Twenty 471 00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:31,640 Speaker 2: three C. 472 00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:39,400 Speaker 4: Rob, Mommy, if you are hearing this, you are a 473 00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:40,480 Speaker 4: strong woman. 474 00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:44,320 Speaker 3: You are God's precious daughter. 475 00:30:44,840 --> 00:30:46,640 Speaker 5: Nancy. 476 00:30:47,560 --> 00:30:50,800 Speaker 3: We believe and know that even in this. 477 00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:53,520 Speaker 2: Valley let both these folks. 478 00:30:53,280 --> 00:31:00,480 Speaker 4: Know everyone is looking for you, mommy, everywhere. We will 479 00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:05,160 Speaker 4: not rest, Your children will not rest until we are 480 00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:11,400 Speaker 4: together again. We speak to you every moment, and we 481 00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:16,320 Speaker 4: pray without ceasing, and we rejoice in advance for the 482 00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:18,480 Speaker 4: day that we hold. 483 00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:23,600 Speaker 3: You in our arms again. We love you, Mom, We 484 00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:24,240 Speaker 3: love you, Mom. 485 00:31:24,360 --> 00:31:30,360 Speaker 2: Stay strong. Well, we'll be back. There's one line open 486 00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:33,440 Speaker 2: and if you call, I'll get you in six, one, seven, four, 487 00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:37,800 Speaker 2: ten thirty. We'll be back on Night's Side. Linda and Catherine, 488 00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:39,440 Speaker 2: you stay right there, we're coming back. 489 00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:45,320 Speaker 1: It's Night Side with Dan Ray on Boston's news radio. 490 00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:49,920 Speaker 2: By the way, just talking to Rob. If Nancy Guthrie 491 00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:55,880 Speaker 2: were to die in there while she's in captivity, it's 492 00:31:55,880 --> 00:32:01,800 Speaker 2: a felony murder. It's it's she she will, they then 493 00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:06,440 Speaker 2: will be facing felony murder charges. These knuckleheads, whoever they are, 494 00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:13,840 Speaker 2: should probably leave her somewhere where she's safe and sound 495 00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:19,480 Speaker 2: and get out of town. If if they if they're smart, 496 00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:24,640 Speaker 2: but I don't think they're smart. Let me go next 497 00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:27,360 Speaker 2: to gonna go to Linda in Weymouth. Hey, Linda, thank 498 00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:29,360 Speaker 2: you for calling in. You're next on Nightside. 499 00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:30,440 Speaker 8: Hi. 500 00:32:30,560 --> 00:32:35,120 Speaker 9: Good evening. Dan, I've been following this since the since 501 00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:39,040 Speaker 9: day one, because I watched Clox News a lot, and 502 00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:43,400 Speaker 9: and and and they they've been on this constantly, constantly. 503 00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:44,120 Speaker 10: Uh. 504 00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:48,560 Speaker 9: And I live alone, I mean, eight years old, and 505 00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:52,400 Speaker 9: I live in an apartment building, so I feel kind 506 00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:57,120 Speaker 9: of safe from on the fourth floor. But I I 507 00:32:57,200 --> 00:33:02,000 Speaker 9: just really feel this is so so horr and uh. 508 00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:08,800 Speaker 9: And I'm really, like you just said, if they're smart, 509 00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:11,479 Speaker 9: they will bring her to a hospital, just leave her 510 00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:16,760 Speaker 9: in the emergency room and and and go. Yeah, yeah, 511 00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:21,680 Speaker 9: because I'm very concerned now listening to all the medications 512 00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:24,760 Speaker 9: she was on in her hot condition and it's gone 513 00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:29,440 Speaker 9: on this lawn. I and they found some blood. I'm there. 514 00:33:29,560 --> 00:33:32,880 Speaker 9: You don't know what kind of condition that she's in 515 00:33:32,920 --> 00:33:35,720 Speaker 9: and how and how long those are. 516 00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:39,080 Speaker 2: All those are all legitimate points. You're raised in, Linda, 517 00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:43,680 Speaker 2: And I'm glad to know that that you're that you 518 00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:45,880 Speaker 2: feel safe where you live. I'm glad to know that 519 00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:49,400 Speaker 2: I lean feel safe and assisted living. This is not 520 00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:52,640 Speaker 2: something that should happen to people, and it should not 521 00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:55,720 Speaker 2: happen to anyone, but it certainly should not happen to 522 00:33:55,760 --> 00:33:59,800 Speaker 2: someone who's eighty four years old. This is there is 523 00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:04,720 Speaker 2: about crimes against elder senior citizens. But if she ever 524 00:34:04,840 --> 00:34:09,080 Speaker 2: dies in there while she's with them, they have now 525 00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:14,000 Speaker 2: they're on the hook for murder, felony, murder. Ellen, rather 526 00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:17,680 Speaker 2: Linda like, Ellen, you stay safe. I need you as 527 00:34:17,719 --> 00:34:19,920 Speaker 2: my listener and as a caller, and I do appreciate 528 00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:20,800 Speaker 2: you calling in tonight. 529 00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:23,359 Speaker 9: Thank you so much, thank you. And I'm concerned too 530 00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:27,040 Speaker 9: about the about this ransom letter. 531 00:34:27,120 --> 00:34:27,480 Speaker 8: I mean, I. 532 00:34:29,160 --> 00:34:32,440 Speaker 9: Don't know how how, how how real that is? Do 533 00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:33,560 Speaker 9: you No. 534 00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:35,640 Speaker 2: It's not it's not real. No, no, no, no no. 535 00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:40,160 Speaker 2: They may have a legitimate ransom letter, but this guy 536 00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:45,280 Speaker 2: who they arrested near the Los Angeles Airport living somewhere, 537 00:34:46,040 --> 00:34:48,560 Speaker 2: he tried to take advantage of the situation. You'd be like, 538 00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:51,320 Speaker 2: he just wrote a letter and said send me some money. 539 00:34:51,320 --> 00:34:54,799 Speaker 2: This guy's a scumbag too. I mean he should he's 540 00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:57,799 Speaker 2: not a kidnapper, but they should throw the book at 541 00:34:57,880 --> 00:34:58,239 Speaker 2: him too. 542 00:34:59,239 --> 00:34:59,800 Speaker 3: I agree. 543 00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:05,360 Speaker 2: Thanks. Thanks, Can I let me go to Catherine and Lowell. 544 00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:07,960 Speaker 2: Catherine appreciate you calling in your next on night side. 545 00:35:09,600 --> 00:35:10,839 Speaker 12: Hello Odean, Hi. 546 00:35:10,840 --> 00:35:13,840 Speaker 2: Catherine, what's your thoughts on this horrible story? 547 00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:19,719 Speaker 12: Yes, and it really is very sad. And but very strange. Also, Yes, 548 00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:24,080 Speaker 12: me and and others have heard on the news and 549 00:35:24,120 --> 00:35:27,840 Speaker 12: so forth. It's this the ransom note itself, not the 550 00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:31,520 Speaker 12: bogus guy that came up late. You know, he got arrested. 551 00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:35,280 Speaker 12: But the original letter, it doesn't you know, it doesn't 552 00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:39,040 Speaker 12: have any kind it had you know, when the money 553 00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:41,080 Speaker 12: was due, but it had no place to send the 554 00:35:41,120 --> 00:35:46,440 Speaker 12: money on a bitcoin, and it had no other references 555 00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:51,400 Speaker 12: to when they'd see their mother when they paid. 556 00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:55,200 Speaker 2: That that might lead me to think that these are 557 00:35:55,239 --> 00:35:58,680 Speaker 2: real amateurs, and that might lead me to think that 558 00:35:58,760 --> 00:36:01,840 Speaker 2: it might be somebody from the neighborhood who on a 559 00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:05,799 Speaker 2: Saturday night thought there's a great idea. You know, you're 560 00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:07,759 Speaker 2: half of the bag. I'm half of the bag. Let's 561 00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:13,080 Speaker 2: go grab that. Savannah Guthrie's mom h and will demand 562 00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:16,640 Speaker 2: some money and maybe they're weigh in over their heads. 563 00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:18,880 Speaker 12: Yeah, that sounds possible. 564 00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:19,840 Speaker 1: Absolutely. 565 00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:24,879 Speaker 12: The other thing, when we're talking about the camera, that yes, 566 00:36:26,719 --> 00:36:30,080 Speaker 12: from what I heard today on the press press conference 567 00:36:30,280 --> 00:36:33,960 Speaker 12: was the cam the camera is still there. The thing 568 00:36:34,160 --> 00:36:38,320 Speaker 12: was it was a Nest service, you know Nest camera. Yeah, 569 00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:42,239 Speaker 12: that particular service which has a subscription, and the subscription 570 00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:46,560 Speaker 12: had not been renewed, so therefore it wasn't an operation to. 571 00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:51,200 Speaker 2: Oh okay, okay, I was confused. I thought someone might 572 00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:53,239 Speaker 2: have been able to deactivate it, you know. 573 00:36:53,360 --> 00:36:56,440 Speaker 12: But yeah, yeah, that's what everyone was thinking prior to 574 00:36:56,800 --> 00:36:58,880 Speaker 12: you know, hearing this, when they were clearing up some 575 00:36:59,000 --> 00:36:59,640 Speaker 12: of the things. 576 00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:02,360 Speaker 2: Well, I mean, obviously I don't know a lot about 577 00:37:02,440 --> 00:37:04,759 Speaker 2: those sort of cameras, but someone could have, you know, 578 00:37:04,920 --> 00:37:07,800 Speaker 2: sidled up next to it, never been in the range 579 00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:11,160 Speaker 2: of and smashed it or taking it off and but 580 00:37:11,160 --> 00:37:13,839 Speaker 2: but no, you're right if they haven't paid a subscription, 581 00:37:14,200 --> 00:37:16,480 Speaker 2: Well that's an oversight. Why have a camera if you're 582 00:37:16,480 --> 00:37:18,480 Speaker 2: not going to maximize the It's like buying. 583 00:37:18,239 --> 00:37:22,000 Speaker 11: A beginning, I'm sure. 584 00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:24,279 Speaker 2: But you would think that her daughter would have said that, 585 00:37:24,360 --> 00:37:26,239 Speaker 2: someone in the family would have said, hey, you got 586 00:37:26,239 --> 00:37:28,400 Speaker 2: to ring camera. What's that cost you? Oh, it's nothing. 587 00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:30,160 Speaker 2: I just got it up there as a as a 588 00:37:30,200 --> 00:37:33,239 Speaker 2: fake camera, or just to be like you buy a 589 00:37:33,239 --> 00:37:35,680 Speaker 2: big screen TV but you don't watch the super Bowl? 590 00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:37,960 Speaker 2: Makes no sense. Hey, I got to get one more 591 00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:41,400 Speaker 2: in Catherine, Thank you so much for calling. Have I 592 00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:44,600 Speaker 2: had the pleasure of talking to you before you have? 593 00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:47,640 Speaker 8: Yes, come back more often. 594 00:37:47,680 --> 00:37:49,120 Speaker 2: Will I need voices. 595 00:37:49,920 --> 00:37:53,359 Speaker 12: Thank you, and I so appreciate you. Thank you very much. 596 00:37:53,400 --> 00:37:55,600 Speaker 2: Right back at you gonna wrap it up with Mike 597 00:37:55,719 --> 00:37:58,360 Speaker 2: in Haveril. Mike, you were next on Nightside. Go right ahead, 598 00:37:58,880 --> 00:37:59,319 Speaker 2: how's this. 599 00:37:59,320 --> 00:38:01,200 Speaker 11: Going to end? Okay? 600 00:38:01,239 --> 00:38:01,439 Speaker 8: Dad? 601 00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:04,640 Speaker 11: Listen? Didn't they say she had pastemaker but they couldn't 602 00:38:04,719 --> 00:38:06,279 Speaker 11: crack it after a day or two. 603 00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:12,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, she did have a pacemaker. And I think that 604 00:38:12,200 --> 00:38:16,040 Speaker 2: that she left her phone. If they had taken her 605 00:38:16,160 --> 00:38:18,799 Speaker 2: with the phone, they could have tracked the phone. But 606 00:38:18,920 --> 00:38:21,720 Speaker 2: I think they said, well, they have possession of the phone, 607 00:38:22,520 --> 00:38:25,359 Speaker 2: so they couldn't track the phone. If you know, if 608 00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:27,520 Speaker 2: they had grabbed her in her pocketbook and the phone 609 00:38:27,560 --> 00:38:29,920 Speaker 2: was in it, you can track a phone up pretty easily. 610 00:38:30,600 --> 00:38:32,880 Speaker 2: And I don't know if the phone was connected to 611 00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:37,160 Speaker 2: the pacemaker and that, and sometimes you know, if the 612 00:38:37,160 --> 00:38:41,680 Speaker 2: pacemaker's not operating properly, the phone sends a signal to 613 00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:45,799 Speaker 2: the to the hospital that the person the pacemaker is 614 00:38:45,960 --> 00:38:48,279 Speaker 2: the battery is dying or something. That's what I think 615 00:38:48,320 --> 00:38:50,919 Speaker 2: they were referring to. But the phone is not with her. 616 00:38:51,120 --> 00:38:55,839 Speaker 2: The phone was not taken when she was taken Dan. 617 00:38:55,920 --> 00:38:56,600 Speaker 11: I hate to say it. 618 00:38:56,640 --> 00:38:58,879 Speaker 10: I think she had a cardiac at the soul due 619 00:38:58,920 --> 00:38:59,600 Speaker 10: to her condition. 620 00:38:59,760 --> 00:39:02,200 Speaker 11: I mean anybody would right at that age. 621 00:39:02,840 --> 00:39:04,880 Speaker 10: Those case closed after a day or two, you know 622 00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:05,359 Speaker 10: what I mean? 623 00:39:05,880 --> 00:39:08,040 Speaker 2: Right? But but I but I don't think she left 624 00:39:08,040 --> 00:39:10,279 Speaker 2: the house and wandered. I think that if she had 625 00:39:10,320 --> 00:39:14,360 Speaker 2: had a cardiac attack, it would have she would not 626 00:39:14,400 --> 00:39:15,840 Speaker 2: have been able to get out of the house. 627 00:39:17,239 --> 00:39:19,120 Speaker 11: Oh God, she get out of us. I'm saying, when 628 00:39:19,120 --> 00:39:21,399 Speaker 11: they had, when they when they were in possession of her. 629 00:39:21,520 --> 00:39:24,080 Speaker 2: Yeah. Right, So now the question is where where is? 630 00:39:24,280 --> 00:39:26,560 Speaker 2: Where is she? Did they did they dump her in 631 00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:29,200 Speaker 2: the desert and hope she's you know, they will stay 632 00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:32,480 Speaker 2: in this case for however long it takes. I hope. Hey, Michael, 633 00:39:32,560 --> 00:39:34,319 Speaker 2: love you call me and thank you for calling in 634 00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:36,879 Speaker 2: become a more frequent caller. Will you thank you very 635 00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:41,600 Speaker 2: very much. Yep, I just we lost them there. I think. Okay, fine, Rob, 636 00:39:41,600 --> 00:39:44,760 Speaker 2: great job. Tonight is always Marita, thank you very much. 637 00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:47,240 Speaker 2: I want to thank everyone who took the time to call. 638 00:39:47,640 --> 00:39:50,279 Speaker 2: It's a talk show. I don't want I don't talk 639 00:39:50,320 --> 00:39:52,560 Speaker 2: to myself. I want to talk with you, so thank 640 00:39:52,600 --> 00:39:56,440 Speaker 2: you for calling. I will do a quick postgame on 641 00:39:56,640 --> 00:39:58,520 Speaker 2: Nightside with Dan Ray. If you want to go to 642 00:39:58,680 --> 00:40:01,319 Speaker 2: knightside with Dan Ray on face book back tomorrow night. 643 00:40:01,320 --> 00:40:02,960 Speaker 2: I'll end there as always, all dogs, all cats, all 644 00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:05,399 Speaker 2: pets go to heaven. That's what Mike Pelle, Charlie Rays 645 00:40:05,440 --> 00:40:09,719 Speaker 2: who passed sixteen years ago in this very month. That's 646 00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:12,040 Speaker 2: where your pets are who had passed. They loved you, 647 00:40:12,040 --> 00:40:13,839 Speaker 2: You love them. I do believe you'll see them again 648 00:40:13,840 --> 00:40:16,640 Speaker 2: and see again tomorrow night on Nightside. Buckle up and 649 00:40:16,719 --> 00:40:19,040 Speaker 2: stay warm this weekend, Go Patriot, See you tomorrow night